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TTOR /w Brett Keane Show S4E4: The Historical Jesus Christ King of Kings & God of the Universe · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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None the.
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The. The.
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The None,
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the the
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over the line. Love isn't always on time.
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Under the wall, over the line. Love isn't always on time.
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Love isn't always on time. Love always on time.
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Hello there everyone. Welcome to the TTOR show.
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I. Of course, if you couldn't tell
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by the little description down here, MTTOR and the guy to what
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appears to be my left is none other than Brett Keene.
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Say hello, Brett. Hey everybody, make sure you
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connect with us on Rumble and Twitter.
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We're streaming through a lot of different locations right now,
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including YouTube. Follow us everywhere and of
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course the stream will be up on the radio.
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Absolutely. And that was actually a point I
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was going to bring up really quick, too, is that tonight
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we're streaming on multiple platforms.
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We're streaming to Brett's Twitter accounts.
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We're streaming to my Twitter accounts.
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We're streaming to my Rumble channel.
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We're streaming to Brett's Rumble channel and then Brett
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threw in his YouTube channel just to have an even Steven 5,
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even though that's an odd number, Maybe 5's.
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The magic number, I don't know, equals 5 fingers or one hand.
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But yet we're streaming on all the platforms and should things
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get weird on YouTube, you know that you have two different
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Rumble channels and two different Twitter accounts.
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You can watch the stream on if you need to, but you should be
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able to find the links to my Rumble and Twitter channels in
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the description box of my streams so that that's something
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that you guys can look for there.
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And As for Brett, he can give you the links to the other
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streams if he so chooses. So I hear that you were going
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through a rough time recently with your family and your
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daughter. What was the surgery she needed?
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Well she was born with meningitis which caused a
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condition called the hydrocephalus.
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It's a condition it causes what in the old days was referred to
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as water in the brain. So what ends up happening is she
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this, she went through 9 surgeries as a baby and then
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recently she was doing just fine but suddenly she started falling
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down. Then my wife took her to the
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hospital. We weren't sure it was going to
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be a serious deal or I would have went along with at this
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point. Unfortunately, my daughter had a
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seizure while in the parking lot of the hospital.
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Ended up having some doctors and nurses come out.
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They did the surgery. We expected this to be months
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and months of issue, but they did it and said she could be
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home in the next couple days and she is home right now.
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She's recovering, she's watching television and hopefully I don't
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have the volume up so high that she's got to hear me and hear
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mumbling and incoherent as her daddy tends to do.
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But she's she's good and that's why I'm in a more upseat type of
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mood right now. Yeah, as bad as what she went
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through this past weekend is, that is quite the good news to
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hear that she's already home and recovering.
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So that is definitely a bit of a miracle. 5:00 in the morning on
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New Year's. Oof.
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Goodness gracious, yeah. That's that's a real shame.
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But even though she is doing a lot better now, I think before
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we get into the stream further and more importantly, before we
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get to the main event, I'd like to take a minute to pray over
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her and your family. And, you know, just to cover
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those bases before we move forward.
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Because you and your family is more important to me than doing
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a presentation on the historical Jesus, even though that's why
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we're here tonight. You know what I mean?
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Well, I'm really happy to be here with you and the topic of
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Jesus Christ and what he's done in our lives and and all that,
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it it's definitely brings a more positive morale.
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So I really appreciate you doing this.
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You couldn't have picked a better time.
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Apparently so. But let's pray, Lord, I am glad
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that Brett and me and those who are watching this stream,
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whether it be on pecks or rumble or Brett's YouTube channel.
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I am glad that we can be together to basically congregate
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digitally, that we can exchange information and ideas and more
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importantly the truth about you without having to suffer any
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major legal repercussions. Although, Lord, you know that
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day is coming in the future, it is quite the good news to hear
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that Brett's daughter, despite having the falls and having the
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seizure outside the hospital and the surgery, it is nothing short
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of a miracle or your Providence, whichever one it is that she is
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already home and recovering. I just pray, Lord, that you keep
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your hand over her so that she can continue to progress in the
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healing process from this particular event.
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And I just pray that you keep your hand over the Keene family
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and that you will keep everyone in good health and good spirits
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and of sound mind, especially as we look at this crazy, wacky,
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tabacky world that we live in and we see all the insanity
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going on all around us, especially in Western countries
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like the United States of America.
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So I just pray that you be with the kings going forward, not
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just in what their daughter went through, but in all their
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affairs. And I pray for the spiritual
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well-being of everyone involved in this stream, either on the
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show or watching in the audience.
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In your name. Amen.
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Amen. All right.
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So I see you there, Joe, and I also see Beckel there.
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And well, yeah, I see that other guy too.
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But this is not a show about taxes.
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OK, Let's get my presentation on the road.
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Just got to see. OK, I guess I'll just have to
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share my entire screen share. Can you see my Openoffice
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Impress on screen, Brett? It's coming through quite clear,
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Sir. All right.
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And is it the full screen coming through too?
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It looks like everything you're trying to get on the screen is
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showing up well. So we're only seeing the slides,
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right? We're seeing the historical
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Jesus all the way down to Justin Derby with a blue background.
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Sweet. So as you can see from the top,
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tonight's presentation that I'm going to give is called The
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Historical Jesus. I actually put this presentation
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together back in 2017 and presented it to the now defunct
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Institute for Creation Science up in Gresham OR.
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But then a couple years ago, I gave this presentation on my
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Joshua TV channel under a different series that no longer
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exists. But you know, this is a new year
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and this is a new time because nobody on Rumble, nobody on
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Twitter, and certainly nobody on Quarter or any of the other
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sites I currently upload to have seen this presentation before.
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So this is a good time to do it for those guys.
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But it's also a good time to tell the truth about the
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historical Jesus and show that the Jesus of history and the
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Jesus of the Gospels are one and the same.
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Now, As for me, myself, in case you're wondering about who I am,
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I have been a follower of The Way or a Christian for 18 years.
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Basically, I got saved when I was 15 after growing up in a
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Christian home, and I'm still a Christian, a follower of the Way
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to this day. And I started doing apologetics
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back in 2013 on blogspot.com, which is where TTOR originated
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and I'm still going strong in that regard.
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Of course I'm now also ATV producer for my church, so a lot
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of my time is spent working on content for them instead of my
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own ministry, but I still find a way to get stuff like this done.
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This here on the screen is my website which you can find at
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TTOR dot site. It is a vast improvement over my
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previous website and here you can find all my social media
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accounts. You can find my past GOD TV,
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radio, live streams. You can find past episodes of
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the TTOR show. You can find guest speaking
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information about getting me as a guest speaker.
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You also have pages for the various books that I've done,
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and even though I haven't done a whole lot of them, you can even
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find blog posts on the site. This on screen is my YouTube
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channel, which I don't really care too much about at this
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point due to all the censorship they've been engaging in for a
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long time. But I'm still on YouTube and I
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still upload videos offline. I just don't stream there
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anymore. This is my Rumble channel, which
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is one of the places we're streaming to tonight.
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I've been getting a lot more engagement on Rumble than I have
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on YouTube for quite a while now, getting good views.
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The sub count is growing and it's just a more lively
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happening place for people like me who cover the kind of content
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that I do. I'm also on Bit Shoot where I
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have over 2300 Subs and I have I think close to 700,000 total
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video views now, making me one of the top creators on Bit
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Shoot. In terms of subscriber count and
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total video views, I think I'm actually in the top five or
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maybe the top 7% of creators on the site, which is quite
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remarkable to think about for someone like me.
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And then of course, I'm on YouTube, which is another
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YouTube alternative. And then I have 1/4 channel,
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which quarter is an open source, all tech alternative to YouTube
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that I started back in late May of last year.
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And I definitely cherish this website more than anything
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because I'm the one who runs it and manages it and there's real
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freedom for Christians to speak and tell the truth on my site.
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So that's another place you can find my ministry content.
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There's also my Ex account, which is another place we're
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streaming to tonight. Formerly known as Twitter and
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definitely much better now in terms of speaking your mind.
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And old Twitter was then here's my Gab account, which I still
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maintain and have over 1400 followers.
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Here I am on Getter, where I have over 400 followers, and
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here I am on Truth Social, which is Evil Orange Man's Twitter
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alternative, which I'm on there sometimes, and I usually just
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share my content on it, but it's a nice place to be if you're all
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about Evil Orange Man. And I say that in sarcasm, of
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course. And this is my Creation Social
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account, which Creation Social is an open source alt tech
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alternative to Facebook that I started over two years ago.
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It's still online, still going strong, and is a good place to
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go if you want to not just interact with me, but also
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interact with other people who like to speak their mind and not
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have to worry about censorship. So now that you know who I am a
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little bit and you know all the places you can find me, I think
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there's a very important question that needs to be asked.
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Why am I an apologist? Why am I doing this whole
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apologetics thing where I give a defense for the historical
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Jesus? Well, it's pretty simple
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actually. When you read the scriptures,
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you realize that we as followers of the Way are commanded to
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defend our faith through apologetics.
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First, Peter 315 says always be prepared to give an answer to
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everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you
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have. But do this with gentleness and
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respect. And when you look at the Greek
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words for being prepared to give an answer to everyone, I think
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that's the phrase where the Greek word apologia is found,
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which is where the word apologetics come from.
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And that's really all apologetics is.
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Well, it's part of what apologetics is.
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It's providing evidence for the truthfulness of your worldview,
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and in particular, it's in relation to the biblical
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worldview. But there is a second part to
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it, because not only are we called to defend our faith
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through apologetics, not only are we called to to defend our
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faith by presenting evidence of its truthfulness, but we're also
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called to debunk other worldviews.
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As Second Corinthians 10/5 says, we demolish arguments in every
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pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God,
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and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to
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Christ. So it's not just a matter of
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defending your worldview, it's also a command to debunk other
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worldviews, which is why I've made.
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So many videos over the years debunking older of creationism,
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debunking atheistic evolution, debunking at times other
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religions like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, or as I've
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done a lot, debunking atheism. So that command is why I do
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those kind of contents where I'm debunking other worldviews.
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Now tonight's presentation is 3 sections in particular, section
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one, what do the Roman historians say about Jesus?
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Because there's quite a few of them that have something to say
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about Jesus and what they say is very interesting if you're not
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familiar with that material. Section 2, we will be talking
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about when the Gospels were written, which I will explain
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when we get there, why that's important.
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And the 3rd and final section, and what I consider to be the
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juiciest section, is what did the historical Jesus say and
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teach? By then we'll have established
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that both the Roman historians who wrote about Jesus and the
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gospels that talk about Jesus are writing about the same Jesus
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at this point. And so when we've established
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that, then the teachings of Jesus will become a lot more
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interesting. But let's get into section one.
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What do the Roman historians say about Jesus?
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Well, I'd like to start off with a very interesting quote by
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Ellen Johnson, who went on to CNN Larry King Live back in
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April 2005 and gave us this gem. The reality is there is not one
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shred of secular evidence there ever was a Jesus Christ.
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Jesus Christ and Christianity is a modern religion and Jesus
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Christ is a compilation from other gods.
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Osiris Mithras, who had the same origins, the same death as the
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mythological Jesus Christ. Now if you just took Ellen at
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face value and didn't investigate anything she said,
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this may sound pretty convincing to some.
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This may sound damning to others.
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But there's just one little problem.
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The first sentence. Ellen claims that there is not
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one shred of secular evidence there ever was a Jesus Christ.
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And that's where all these Roman historians I'm going to quote
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from come into play. And the reason why it's
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important is because when dealing with the historical
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Jesus, it's important to know. Are there any secular historians
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who talk about Jesus as a historical person?
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It's also important to figure out if there were any secular
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people who wrote about Jesus and the early Christians in order to
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corroborate the story, because as we see if other religions
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like Mormonism, we have no cooperation from other parties
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regarding the Mormon story. So first up on the docket is
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Josephus. Josephus was a Jew who became a
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Roman citizen later in his life, and he was a historian from the
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1st century whose works covered Jewish history.
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Josephus mentions Jesus in Antiquities of the Jews, Book
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18, Chapter 3, paragraph 3. But because of its kind
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assessment of Jesus in the Greek version, many believe that the
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Christians who preserved Josephus's work altered his
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original text in order to make it appear less insulting than
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Josephus usually was in his writings.
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Robert Eisler, an Austrian Jewish art historian and Bible
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scholar who lived from 1882 to 1949, reconstructed Josephus's
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passage to be based on a less complimentary approach that
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lined up more of Josephus's writing style in his other
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works. And it is this reconstruction
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that we're going to read, because even in this
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reconstruction you learn a few things about this historical
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Jesus we read now about. This Time arose an occasion for
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new disturbances. A certain Jesus, a Wizard of a
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man, if indeed he may be called a man, who was the most
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monstrous of men, whom his disciples called the Son of God,
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as having done wonders such as no man has ever done.
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He was in fact a teacher of astonishing tricks to such men
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as except the abnormal with delight.
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And he seduced many Jews, and many also of the Greek nation,
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and was regarded by them as the Messiah.
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And when on the indictment of the principal men among us,
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Pilate had sentenced him to the cross, still those who before
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had admired him did not cease to rave.
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For it seemed to them that having been dead for three days,
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he had appeared to them alive again, as the divinely inspired
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prophets had foretold these and 10,000 other wonderful things
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concerning him. And even now the race of those
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who are called Messianis after him is not extinct.
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Well, when we look at that passage of Josephus that Eisler
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reconstructed, we learn that Jesus performed miracles.
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We learned that Jews and Gentiles alike became his
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followers. We learned that Jesus was
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regarded as the Messiah while he was alive.
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We learned that Pontius Pilate sentenced Jesus to death on the
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cross. We also learned that it was
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reported that Jesus had risen from the dead after three days.
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We learned that the followers of Jesus claimed that Jesus
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fulfilled all the ancient prophecies about the Messiah.
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And we learned that the followers of Jesus were still
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around at the time of Josephus's writing.
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Those are all very interesting details, and when we pull them
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together with the other details about Jesus that we're going to
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see from these other Roman historians, you'll see that the
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picture they painted Jesus will look very familiar.
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Now Celsius is up next on the docket.
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Celsius was a second century Greek philosopher famous for his
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attacks on early Christianity. While all of Celsius's works are
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no longer extant, which means that none of the manuscripts for
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them exist anymore, So we don't have any manuscripts of his work
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anymore. Origin and early Christian
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theologian from the 3rd century used this quote from Celsius in
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Contra Selsum 128 which in Contra Celsius, Celsius was
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doing the point by point refutation or origin was doing a
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point by point refutation of Celsius's work.
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And so I keep quote a bit of it and then write his response.
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Quote the next little bit, write his response.
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Well, here's a quote from Celsius that Origin gave born in
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a certain Jewish village of a poor woman of the country who
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gained her substance by spinning, and who was turned out
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of doors by her husband, a Carpenter by trade, because she
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was convicted of adultery. But after being driven away by
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her husband and wandering about for a time, she disgracefully
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gave birth to Jesus, An illegitimate child who, having
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hired himself out as a servant in Egypt on account of his
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poverty, and having there acquired some miraculous powers
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on which the Egyptians greatly pride themselves, returned to
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his own country, highly elated on account of them, and by means
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of these proclaimed himself a God.
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So we learned from Celsius that Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
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We learned that Jesus's father was a Carpenter.
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We learned that Jesus had divine powers and that he used these
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powers as the basis to proclaim himself to be God in human form.
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Very interesting details from Celsius we got there now.
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Lucian was a Greek satirist who lived from 1:25 to roughly
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180AD. Lucian wrote a satire called The
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Death of Peregrine in which the lead character takes advantage
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of the generosity of Christians and is in this work we read.
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The Christians, you know worship a man to this day, the
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distinguished personage who introduced their novel rights
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and was crucified on that account.
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You see these misguided creatures start with the general
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conviction that they are immortal for all time, which
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explains the contempt of death and voluntary self devotion
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which are so common among them. And then it was impressed on
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them by their original lawgiver, that they are all brothers from
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the moment that they are converted and deny the gods of
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Greece and worship the crucified sage and live after his laws.
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All this they take quite on trust, with the result that they
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despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common
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property. Now an adroit unscrupulous
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fellow who has seen the world, has only to get among these
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simple souls, and his fortune is pretty soon made.
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He plays with them. So we learn from Lucian that
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Jesus was indeed a real historical person.
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We learn that he was crucified for what he taught, and we even
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learn a teaching of Jesus that he taught that all the
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Christians, all his followers, are siblings in Christ from the
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moment of conversion. May I point something out real
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quick about some of the information you put forth?
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Sure, the in the beginning of the post you posted the people
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talking about the similarities of Mithra and Jesus.
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I don't know if some people realize this out there, but the
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same Romans who we're going along with that Mithra thing for
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a little bit, they actually claimed to have had a vision of
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Jesus Christ and ended up making Christianity the state religion
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because of such a powerful vision they had of it.
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That's why there you have Roman Christianity, folks.
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I don't know if you guys knew that out there.
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Also, you posted some of the list of people who mentioned
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Jesus Christ. I find it fascinating that
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Pontius Pilate is actually recorded.
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There is historical information of him as well as the enemies of
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Christ who crucified him actually mentioning him.
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This isn't just the people who liked him.
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It was the people who hated him who also mentioned him.
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Go ahead. Absolutely.
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Now the next historian on the docket is Suetonius, a Roman
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historian who lived from 69 to roughly 122AD.
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Suetonius makes a reference to Jesus in Life of Claudius 25
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four which reads Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at
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the instigation of Crestus, he expelled them from Rome.
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Now Crestus is a misspelling of Christus, which means that he's
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talking about Jesus here. Which means that Jesus not only
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was a real historical person, but according to Suetonius,
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because of the commotion that the Jews made when they brought
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Jesus before Pontius Pilate to get him crucified, Claudius
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kicked the Jews out of Rome. And if you read Acts 18 one
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through 2, you can have this fact verified by another source
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of information because Acts 18 one through 2 talks about the
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Jews being kicked out of Rome. This guy explains why they were
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kicked out of Rome. Surprise, surprise, it's what
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they had to do to get Jesus killed by pilot that got them
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kicked out of Rome. May I also point out that they
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also have the two locations, one where the tomb in which Jesus
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was buried and they also have the location historically found
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where he was crucified. They call it the Golgotha.
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Go ahead. And that's also a place that's
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mentioned in the Gospels as well.
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Tacitus is the other Roman historian that we're looking at.
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He was a Roman historian who lived from 56 to roughly 117 AD.
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But he pointed out some interesting things in the Annals
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book 158062 to 65. And I hope the goodness I'm
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getting my Roman numerals right. Consequently, to get rid of the
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report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite
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tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called
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Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had
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its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of
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Tiberius at the hands of one of our pro curators, Pontius
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Pilate, and a most mischievous superstition.
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Thus check for the moment Again not and again broke out, not
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only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome,
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where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the
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world find their center and become popular.
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Now we learn from the this account that Jesus not only was
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a real historical person, but that he was sentenced to
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execution by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius
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Caesar. But Phil Fernandez, another
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Christian apologist who wrote a book called Hacking the
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Historical Jesus. He wrote the following on pages
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84 to 85 regarding Tacitus. These statements by Tacitus are
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consistent with the New Testament records.
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Even Tacitus's report of the stopping of the superstition,
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and then it's breaking out again, appears to be his attempt
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to explain how the death of Christ stifled the spreading of
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the gospel. But then the Christian message
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was once again preached, this time spreading more rapidly.
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This is perfectly consistent with the New Testament record.
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The New Testament reports that Christ's disciples went into
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hiding during his arrest and death after Jesus rose from the
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dead three days after the crucifixion.
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He filled his disciples of the Holy Spirit about 50 days after
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the crucifixion, and they fearlessly proclaimed the Gospel
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throughout the Roman Empire, Acts one and Two.
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Now, when you take all these secular sources, these Roman
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historians, what do they have to say about Jesus when you put
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them all together? Well, you learn that Jesus was
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born in Bethlehem, that his father was a Carpenter, that he
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was a wise person who had divine powers which they attributed to
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sorcery to try and discredit him.
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He claimed to be God in human form.
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Jews and Gentiles alike became his followers.
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He was regarded as the Messiah. While he was alive.
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He was arrested and condemned for what he taught.
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Pontius Pilate sentenced Jesus to death on the cross, and it
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was reported that Jesus had risen from the dead after three
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days. Now, when you pull all those
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details together and you think of the picture of Jesus you're
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getting, it looks like the Jesus of the Gospels, just less
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detailed, a little more murky in the details.
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Which leads us into when were the Gospels written?
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Now, when you read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
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John, you are clearly dealing with the most detailed sources
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about Jesus that we have. But the question is, are they
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the earliest sources that we have about Jesus?
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And that's where this section is going to come in.
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We're going to prove in this section that the Gospels were
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written within 30 years of the life of Jesus, which means that
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virtually all of the high witnesses to him, we're still
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alive when all of these gospels were written.
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And just so you guys know, I am not going to be dealing with the
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queue source hypothesis in this section because the queue source
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is just that. It's a hypothesis.
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There's actually no evidence whatsoever that the queue source
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even exists. So I'm not going to deal with a
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hypothetical. I'm going to deal with what we
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actually have, which is the following information.
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Now, in First Timothy 613, Paul makes a reference to the
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conversation that Jesus had with Pilate, and the reference refers
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to the conversation that is recorded only in the Gospel of
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John. Since first Timothy was written
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between 63 to 65 AD, according to the secular world and the
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Wikipedia article on the book, John's Gospel logically had to
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have been written before that because you can't make
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references to documents that don't exist.
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Well, what about the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke?
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Well, virtually all scholars agree that First Corinthians,
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which was Paul's first letter, was written between 53 and 57
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AD. And just to show you the
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similarities here, First Corinthians 11/23 through 26.
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For I received from the Lord what I had also passed on to
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you. The Lord Jesus, on the night he
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was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks he
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broke it and said, This is my remember, this is my body, which
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is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.
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In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, this cup
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is the new covenant in my blood. Do this whenever you drink it in
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remembrance of Me. For whenever you eat this bread
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and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes.
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So we see this huge quotation here that Paul lists and 1st
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Corinthians, and we realized that it comes from the Gospel of
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Luke, specifically Luke 2219 through 23, which reads, And he
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took the bread, gave thanks, and broke it, and gave it to them,
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saying, This is my body given for you.
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Do this in remembrance of me. In the same way, after the
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supper he took the cup, saying, this cup is the new covenant in
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my blood which is poured out for you.
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But the hand of him who's going to betray me is with mine on the
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table the Son of man will go as it has been decreed, But woe to
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that man who betrays him. They began the question among
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themselves which of them it might be who would do this.
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So we can see that Paul is definitely using Luke as his
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source of information when he quotes Jesus's words at the Last
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Supper in First Corinthians. Now, since First Corinthians was
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written between 53 and 57 AD, this means that the gospel of
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Luke had to have been written before First Corinthians, which
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makes sense because you can't make references to things that
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don't exist yet. And if First Corinthians is
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referring to Luke as clearly as Paul did, then Luke had to have
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already existed by the time First Corinthians was written.
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But I guess even more interesting, on page 166 of his
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book Cold Case Christianity, famous homicide detective and
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Christian apologist Jim Warner, Wallace had this to say about
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the Gospel of Luke. Luke often repeated or quoted
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entire passages that were offered previously by either
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Mark. 350 verses from Mark appear in Luke's Gospel or
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Matthew. 250 verses from Matthew appear in Luke's Gospel.
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These passages were inserted into Luke's Gospel as though
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they were simply copied over from other accounts.
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Since we know that Luke repeated and quoted passages from Mark
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and Matthew, both Mark and Matthew had to have been written
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before Luke. In other words, Matthew, Mark,
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and Luke were written within roughly 20 years of Jesus's
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life, and the only way you can disprove this theory of mine is
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if you can prove that First Corinthians and First Timothy
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were written much later than the current consensus is.
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If you could do that, then my theory would be wrong.
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But if you go with the consensus dates on the writing of First
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Corinthians and First Timothy, then you have to conclude that
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the Gospels were written within 30 years of Jesus's life, which
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means virtually every eyewitness was alive when John was written,
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and pretty much all of them were written when Matthew, Mark and
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Luke were written. Now, when we look at the Roman
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historians who wrote about Jesus, if you take away
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Josephus, four of the five Roman historians wrote their documents
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over 80 years after the events took place, some of them closer
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to 100 years. The four Gospels, on the other
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hand, were written within 30 years of the life of Jesus, with
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three of them written within 20 years.
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This means that the Gospels are not only the most detailed
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sources of information we have about Jesus, but they are the
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earliest as well. And normally when you're talking
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about the earliest and most detailed sources about a
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historical figure, historical scholars would be drooling all
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over that. And they would be singing the
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praises of these documents because they would be considered
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the authoritative sources of information about that
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historical figure. But because this is about Jesus
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and it confirms the Bible well. They're not so quick to jump on
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board, the bandwagon of the Gospels, being the earliest and
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most detailed sources we have about Jesus now that we know
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what the Roman historians said about Jesus, thus proving that
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there is secular evidence for Jesus's existence.
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And now that we know that the Gospels are the earliest and
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most detailed sources that we have about Jesus, this leads
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into our third and final section.
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What did the historical Jesus saying teach?
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There's going to be some stuff in here that will surely offend
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somebody somewhere, so buckle up.
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Jesus taught that you shouldn't believe anything unless the
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evidence supports it. Now I've no atheists and
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evolutionists and skeptics watching this will be blown away
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by this. Wait a minute.
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We're the ones who always tell people they shouldn't believe
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anything unless the evidence supports it.
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What's Jesus doing teaching this, Of course.
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Then they'll probably be asked me.
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Well, how do you know that he taught that?
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Because when they think of Christians, they think of people
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who will believe anything, regardless of how little
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evidence there is for it. Well, in John 1022 through 39,
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we read the following. Then came the festival of
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dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter and Jesus was in
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the temple courts walking in Solomon's Colonnade.
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The Jews were there gathered around him, saying, how long
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will you keep us in suspense if you are the Messiah?
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Tell us plainly, Jesus answered. I did tell you, but you do not
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believe. The works I do in my Father's
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name testify about me. But you do not believe because
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you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice.
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I know them and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and
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they shall never perish. No one will snatch them out of
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my hand. My Father, who has given them to
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me, is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of my
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Father's hand. I and the Father are one again.
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His Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, But Jesus
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said to them, I have shown you many good works from the Father.
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For which of these do you stone me?
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We are not stoning you for any good work, they replied, but for
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blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.
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Jesus, answer them. Is it not written in your law?
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I have said you are gods. If he called them gods, to whom
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the word of God came, and Scripture cannot be set aside,
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What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own
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and is sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of
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blasphemy? Because I said I am God's Son,
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do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
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But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe
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the works that you may know and understand that the Father is in
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me and I am the Father. Again, they tried to seize him,
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but he escaped their grasp. So we see here in this passage
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Jesus telling his enemies, Hey, if you don't believe my claim to
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be the Son of God, to be God in human form, then believe the
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works that I'm doing. Because these works are the
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evidence that I am God, that I am God's Son, the Son of God, as
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it were. But in Mark Two, one through 12,
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we read another interesting passage.
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A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, people
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heard that he had come home. They gathered in such large
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numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door,
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and he preached the word to them.
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Some men came bringing to him a paralyzed man carried by four of
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them. Since he could not get them to
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Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof
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above Jesus by digging through it.
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And then lower than that, the man was lying on.
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When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man.
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Son, your sins are forgiven. Now some teachers of the law
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were sitting there thinking to themselves, Why is this fellow
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talk like that? He's blaspheming.
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Who can forgive sins but God alone?
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Immediately, Jesus knew in his spirit that this is what they
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were thinking in their hearts. And he said to them, why are you
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thinking these things? Which is easier to say to this
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paralyzed man your sins are forgiven?
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Or to say, get up, take your mat and walk?
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But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on
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earth to forgive sins. So he said to the man, I tell
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you, get up, take your mat and go home.
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He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them.
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All praised God saying we have never seen anything like this.
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So here we have an instance where Jesus forgave a guy's sins
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and his enemy said hey he can't do that, Only God can forgive
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sins. And So what Jesus did to prove
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that he was God and therefore had the authority to forgive
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sins was he healed. This paralyzed man told him to
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get up, pick his mat up and go home and the guy did.
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So Jesus was providing evidence to support his claim to be God,
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to support his authority to forgive sins.
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He was literally providing evidence for what he was saying.
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John 14, eight through 14 is another interesting passage,
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though Philip said, Lord show us the Father and that will be
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enough for us, Jesus answered. Don't you know me, Philip?
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Even after I have been among you such a long time, anyone who has
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seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, show us the
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Father? Don't you believe that I am the
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Father in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
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The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority.
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Rather, it is the Father living in me who is doing his work.
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Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father's
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in me, or at least believe on the evidence of the works
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themselves. Very truly, I tell you, whoever
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believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will
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do even greater things than these because I am going to the
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Father and I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the
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Father may be glorified in the Son.
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You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
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So Jesus didn't just tell his enemies, hey, don't believe me
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unless the evidence supports what I'm saying.
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He held his Dome disciples and followers to the same standard,
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which is the kind of intellectual consistency that
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most people appreciate and that atheists and evolutionists and
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religious skeptics claim to be all about.
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So they may be tempted at this point to think, Oh yeah, let's
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get behind that Jesus guy 'cause he taught you should only
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believe things if there's adequate evidence for it.
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When you see the other things that Jesus taught later on in
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this presentation, that's when the excited atheists and
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skeptics and evolutionists will go Oh, because Jesus applied
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this standard to his claim to be God, he also warned us on.
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Who we ought to watch out for, you know, false Christ, false
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people, all this kind of thing. You hear a lot of non believers
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say things like why doesn't God do something about this or that.
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Well he warned us. Christ warned us very
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specifically several times what to watch out for.
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Look at their fruits. Yes, he did, and we can.
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Definitely talk about that in more detail in the question part
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of this presentation. But the next point that Jesus
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taught was that the scriptures are inerrant.
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And the way he did this is he treated the most hard to believe
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miracle stories of the Old Testament as historical fact.
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Even the ones that atheist and evolutionist make fun of the
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most. So here.
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In John, 310 through. 15 We see Jesus say the following to
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Nicodemus. You are Israel's teacher, said
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Jesus. And do you not understand these
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things? Very truly I tell you, we speak
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of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen.
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But still you people do not accept our testimony.
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I have spoken to you of earthly things, and you do not believe.
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How then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
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No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from
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heaven, the Son of Man. Just as Moses lifted up the
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snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up
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that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.
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Now when you see Jesus specifically say I have spoken
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to you of earthly things and you do not believe, how then will
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you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
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This is the principle behind what he said if Jesus and
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consequently the Bible, since Jesus is God, as we'll see
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later, and God is the author of both the Old and New Testaments.
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Ultimately, according to the New Testament, this means if God,
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Jesus or the Bible gets anything wrong regarding a claim in the
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fields of knowledge called science, history, archaeology,
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etcetera, then they are to be distrusted, discounted,
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disbelieved when they talk about spiritual things, heavenly
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things, which which would include the gospel message of
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salvation. So.
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Jesus is quite. Literally laying out the idea
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here by very strong implication that if he or the Bible is wrong
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about anything regarding history, science, archaeology,
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etcetera, then the gospel is worthless.
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It is garbage and you can throw it out.
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It's quite simple. And a lot of people who call
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themselves Christians have a real problem with this teaching
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of Jesus, and they have a problem with any Christian who
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regurgitates what Jesus taught. It's a very interesting world
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that we live in. But Jesus, as I mentioned.
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Earlier also taught that the Old Testament is true, which is on
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that same vein. Because after all, like I said,
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if the Bible's wrong about anything, well, then as far as
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history, science, archaeology, etcetera, then we can discount
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the gospel. Well, Jesus, as I mentioned
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earlier, taught that the Old Testament was true, and he
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specifically taught that the Old Testament accounts of miracles
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that atheists like to make fun of were true facts of history,
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and he referred to them in relation to his coming Second
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coming. Matthew 1230. 8 through 42 then
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some teeth. Let's start over then, Some of
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the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him.
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Teacher, we want to see a sign from you, he answered.
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A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign, but
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none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
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For as Jonah was 3 days and three nights in the belly of a
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huge fish, so the Son of Man will be 3 days and three nights
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in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up
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at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for
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they repented at the preaching of Jonah, And now something
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greater than Jonah is here. The Queen of the South will rise
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at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for
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she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon's
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wisdom. And now something greater than
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Solomon is here. So in this passage we see Jesus
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refer to the prophet Jonah being swallowed by the big fish, the
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people of Nineveh repenting at Jonah's preaching, and the Queen
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of the South visiting Solomon as real historical events, and he
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talked about them in relation to his second coming and his.
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Current coming at. The time, Matthew. 2430.
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Six through 31 says, But about that day or hour no one knows,
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not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the
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Father, as it was in the days of Noah.
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So it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
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For in the days before the flood people were eating and drinking,
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marrying and giving in marriage up to the day Noah entered the
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ark. And they knew nothing about what
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would happen until the flood came and took them all away.
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That is how we will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
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Two men will be in the field, one will be taken and the other
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left. Two women will be grinding with
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a hand mill, one will be taken and the other left.
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So according to Jesus, the flood of Noah and what was going on in
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the days right before the flood of Noah were real historical
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facts. And he made this claim by saying
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that the way things were back in Noah's time, right before the
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flood, is the way it's going to be right before I come back the
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second time. Then there's.
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Luke 1720. Six through 29 where Jesus says
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just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the
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days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking,
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marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah
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entered the ark. Then the flood came and
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destroyed them all. It was the same in the days of
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lot. People were eating and drinking,
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buying and selling, planting and building.
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But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from
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heaven and destroyed them all. So not only did Jesus once again
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refer to the flood of Noah and what was going on the days right
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before the flood as a real historical fact by comparing it
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to his second coming, but he did the same thing with the story as
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Sodom and Gomorrah. You know that story where angels
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went to Sodom and Gomorrah to see Lot, and the men of the town
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came to Lot's home and tried to rape the angels, and then God
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destroyed the cities. Yeah, that story, Jesus said.
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That's a real historical fact. Then there's Luke. 2034.
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Through 38, where we read, Jesus replied, the people of this age
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marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered
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worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection
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from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and
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they can no longer die, for they are like the angels.
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They are God's children, since they are children of the
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resurrection. But in the account of the
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burning Bush, even Moses show that the dead rise, for recalls
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the Lord, the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of
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Jacob. He is not the God of the dead,
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but of the living, for to him all are alive.
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So Jesus treats the account of the burning Bush that we find in
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Exodus chapter 3 as a real historical event.
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Quite fascinating indeed. Jesus also.
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Taught that you don't need a formal education to know the
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truth about reality, and I have learned first hand that this is
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definitely true. But let's see the passage where
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Jesus did this. John 714 through 19 says.
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Not until halfway through the festival did Jesus go up to the
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Temple courts and begin to teach.
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The Jews there were amazed and asked How did this man get such
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learning without having been taught?
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Jesus answered. My teaching is not my own.
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It comes from the one who sent me.
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Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out
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whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my
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own. Whoever speaks on their own does
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so to gain personal glory. But he who seeks the glory of
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the one who sent him as a man of truth, there is nothing false
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about him. Has not Moses given you the law,
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yet not one of you keeps the law?
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Why are you trying to kill me now?
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When they said How did Jesus get such learning without having
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been taught? What was meant by that?
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Is that Jesus, even though they called him Rabbi, he was
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technically not a Rabbi. He did not go through the
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rabbinical education system that all the other rabbis back then
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went through, but he did the work of a Rabbi and no one could
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ever prove him wrong about anything.
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So they called him Rabbi because he did the work of a Rabbi.
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And notice what Jesus says here. He says that anyone who chooses
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to do the will of God can find out whether Jesus's teaching
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comes from God or whether he's speaking on his own.
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In other words, Jesus is not saying that you need to have a
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special education like several pH, DS, or college degrees.
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You don't have to have a secret Mystic knowledge or anything
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wacky to backy like that in order to figure out whether
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Jesus is telling the truth or not.
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Be saying that anyone who chooses to do the will of God
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will figure out and can figure out whether Jesus is speaking
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the truth or not. No formal education is required,
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and I agree with that. As long as we have access to
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information and a desire to know the truth or to seek out the
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will of God, in this case, we can figure.
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Out whether or not Jesus. Was telling the truth or not?
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Now here is one of the most. Inconvenient things that Jesus
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ever taught. Jesus taught that most of the
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world is going to hell, kid you not John 14.
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Six through. Seven Jesus answered, I am the
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way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
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except through me. If you really know me, you will
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know my Father as well From now on.
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You do know him and have seen him.
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So Jesus says he's the way, the truth, and the life.
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No one comes to the Father except through him.
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That means that the biblical worldview is the only true
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worldview, because that's the worldview that Jesus established
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and all other worldviews are false.
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Jesus made that categorically clear with this claim.
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But. Jesus didn't stop there.
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Matthew 713 through 14 Jesus said enter through the narrow
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gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to
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destruction and many enter through it.
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But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and
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only a few find it. So according to Jesus here, the
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majority of the world is going to be annihilated at the White
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Throne judgment at the end of time.
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And that's. After they've spent their time.
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In Hell. But relatively few people are
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going to spend eternity with him and the Father in the Kingdom
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after it's established on Earth. But it's not just unbelievers
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that Jesus applied this to Matthew 721 through 23 Jesus
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said not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the
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Kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my
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Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day,
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Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name, And in your name
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drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
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Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you away from me, you
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evil doers. So these are people who are
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proclaiming the name of Jesus and prophesied in his name and
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apparently performing miracles and driving out demons in his
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name. And they're not allowed in the
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Kingdom because they don't have a saving personal relationship
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with Jesus. I know when I read this passage,
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it's very sobering to me because basically, if you take what
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Jesus said seriously in this passage, you have to examine
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yourself carefully and on a fairly regular basis just to
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make sure that you really are seeking the Lord and that you
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really are submitting to Jesus. Because if you don't got that
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saving personal relationship with him, you ain't going to be
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in the Kingdom according to Jesus.
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So this is one of those passages that should definitely keep
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Christians humble. I know it keeps me humble.
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Now this one is probably even. More offensive for some people
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than the previous one was Jesus taught through implication that
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Young Earth Creationism is true. Now I know the immediate knee
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jerk reaction to that for most people is to freak out and go
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what the heck are you talking about Justin?
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That can't possibly be true. Some people will be more honest
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though and say, well, how did Jesus teach?
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Yet younger. If creationism is true, explain
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that one to us, Justin, and for those people we will.
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First we'll start with Matthew 19, one through 6 and it says,
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When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee
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and went into the region of Judea, to the other side of the
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Jordan. Large crowds followed him, and
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he healed them there. Some Pharisees came to test him.
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They asked, is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any
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and every reason, Haven't you read?
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He replied that the beginning, the Creator made them male and
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female, and said for this reason a man will leave his father and
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mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become
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one flesh. So they are no longer 2 but one
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flesh. Therefore what God has joined
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together, let no one separate. So in this passage we see Jesus
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say that at the beginning the Creator, and then he quotes
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Genesis 127, the creation of Adam and Eve, male and female.
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And then he quotes right after that Genesis 224, the creation
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of marriage. So according to Jesus, male,
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female and marriage were created at the beginning.
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The beginning of what? The beginning of creation.
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How do I know the beginning of creation?
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Parallel passage in Mark 10/1 Through nine.
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Jesus then left that place and went into the region of Judea
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and across the Jordan. Again, crowds of people came to
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him, and, as was His custom, he taught them.
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Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, Is it lawful for
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a man to divorce his wife? What did Moses command you?
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He replied. They said Moses permitted a man
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to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.
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It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this
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law, Jesus replied. But at the beginning of creation
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God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave
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his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two
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will become one flesh. So they are no longer 2 but one
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flesh. Therefore what God has joined
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together let no one separates. So in this passage we see Jesus
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say at the beginning of creation God, and then he quotes Genesis
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127 and then quotes Genesis 224. So even more clearly in this
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passage we see Jesus saying that male, female and marriage were
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created at the beginning of creation.
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This is a factual claim that Jesus is making here and when
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you compare Jesus's factual claim to the Old Earth
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Creationism timelines of history, you realize really
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quickly that only the Young Earth Creationism timeline of
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history allows Jesus to be factually correct when he claims
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that God made male, female and marriage at the beginning of
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creation. I have here 3 timelines, the gap
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theory timeline of history, the day age theory timeline of
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history, and the Young Earth creationism timeline of history.
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And on each line there is a green slash and that green slash
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is the point where Adam, Eve and marriage were created on these
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timelines. Now if you assume the current
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theory that the universe and Earth are 14 to 16 billion years
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old, and you're not one of those people who's going with the new
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study that says that the universe is Earth for way older
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than that? Twice as old.
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In fact, if you go with the traditional timeline for gap
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theory, you have Adam and Eve being created 6000 years ago on
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a 14 to 16 billion year timeline.
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That's virtually at the very end of the timeline.
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That is almost the polar opposite of the beginning of
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creation. Then you have Day Age Theory
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timeline, which would have Adam and Eve being created a couple
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billion years ago on a 14 to 16 billion year timeline, which is
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not as close to the end of the timeline as Gap Theory would
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have it, but it's still nowhere near the beginning, as you can
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see on the graph. But then there's the Young Earth
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Creationism timeline of history, where we have Adam and Eve being
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created six days into a 6000 year timeline, created on day
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six of a 6000 year timeline. That's like occurring at the 10
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second mark of a three hour movie.
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That's virtually the very beginning.
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Now, I know that there's been older of creationists in the
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past who have told me that because it occurred on day 6
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instead of day one, it didn't actually occur at the beginning.
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But as I explained with the movie analogy, it's virtually
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the beginning, and certainly much closer to the beginning of
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day. Age theory and Gap theory,
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timelines. Other things.
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That older of creationists. Try to do in response to this
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argument is they will say that well when Jesus talked about
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male, female and marriage being created at the beginning of
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creation, what he really meant was the beginning of their
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creation. The problem is, is that the text
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of the scriptures doesn't say that.
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Matthew 19 says at the beginning, not at their
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beginning, and Mark 10 says at the beginning of creation, not
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at the beginning of their creation.
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If those passages said at their beginning and at the beginning
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of their creation, then the old earth objection would be true,
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but it doesn't say that. It says at the beginning and at
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the beginning of creation and that means young Earth
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creationism has to be true because it has Adam and Eve and
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marriage created on day six of a 6000 year timeline virtually at
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the beginning, just like Jesus said.
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But this is. The most.
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Controversial part for most people.
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For my presentation, Jesus claimed to be God in human form
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and he did this in a variety of ways.
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And I'm going to give you 3 prime examples that go through a
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lot of scripture in a short amount of time, but I think you
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guys will like it. John 541 through 44 Jesus said I
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do not accept glory from human beings.
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But I know you. I know that you do not have the
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love of God in your hearts. I have come in my father's name
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and you do not accept me. But if someone else comes in his
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own name, you will accept him. How Can you believe, since you
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accept glory from one another, but do not seek the glory that
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comes from the only God John 2. 23 through 20.
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Five. Now while he was in Jerusalem at
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the Passover festival, many people saw the signs he was
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performing and believed in his name.
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But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all
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people. He did not need any testimony
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about mankind, for he knew what was in each person first.
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Kings Chapter 8. 37 through 40 When famine or plague comes to
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the land, or blight or mildew, locusts or grasshoppers, or when
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an enemy besieges them in any of their cities, whatever disaster
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or disease may come. And when a prayer or plea is
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made by anyone among your people, Israel being aware of
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their afflictions, of the afflictions of their own hearts,
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and spreading out their hands toward this temple, then hear
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from heaven your dwelling place. Forgive and act.
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Deal with everyone according to all they do, since you know
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their hearts. For you alone know every human
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heart, so that they will fear you all the time they live in
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the land. You gave our ancestors Psalm 40.
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4/20 through. 22 If we had forgotten the name of our God,
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or spread out our hands to a foreign God, would not God have
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discovered it, since he knows the secrets of the heart?
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Yet for your sake we face death all day long.
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We are considered a sheep to be slaughtered.
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Jeremiah 1710 I The Lord search the heart and examine the mind
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to reward each person according to according to their conduct,
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according to what their deeds deserve.
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Now I give you all. Those passages to say this.
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According to the Old Testament, God searches the heart and
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examines the mind. He can see the secrets of the
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heart, and God is the only one who knows every human heart.
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Jesus claimed to know that the Jewish leaders he was talking to
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had no love of God in their hearts.
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And John 223 through 25 states that Jesus knows all people and
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what is in each person. Therefore, by claiming to know
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what was in the hearts of his listeners, Jesus was claiming to
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be God. Now this is an interesting one.
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Matthew 2114 through 17 The blind and the lame came to him
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at the temple, and he healed them.
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But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the
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wonderful things he did, and the children shouting in the temple
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courts Hosanna to the son of David, they were indignant.
1:09:09
Do you hear what these children are saying?
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They asked him. Yes, replied Jesus.
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Have you never read from the lips of children and infants?
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You, Lord, have called forth your praise?
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And he left them and went out of the city to Bethany, where he
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spent the night. Psalm 8 one through 4.
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Lord our Lord, how majestic is your name and all the earth.
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You have set your glory in the heavens through the praise of
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children and infants. You have established A
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stronghold against your enemies to silence the phone.
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The avenger, when I consider your heavens, the work of your
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fingers, the moon and the stars which you've set in place was
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mankind, that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care
1:09:47
for them. So as we see in those two
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passages, the children at the temple were worshipping Jesus,
1:09:54
and the religious leaders were upset by that.
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They wanted Jesus to stop, but Jesus referred to Psalm 8 to
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justify allowing the children to worship him.
1:10:04
When Psalm 8, we see children are praising God, and yet Jesus
1:10:08
refers to that Psalm to justify allowing children to worship him
1:10:14
and by. Doing so, Jesus.
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Was claiming to be God. Matthew 1127.
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All things have been committed to me by my Father.
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No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the
1:10:29
Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to
1:10:33
reveal him. In this verse, Jesus claims.
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That he is so incomprehensible that it takes God the Father to
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fully understand and comprehend Him.
1:10:43
He also claims that He's the only one who can fully
1:10:45
understand and comprehend God the Father, and that he can
1:10:48
choose who he wants to reveal God the Father to.
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Therefore, Jesus is making himself indistinguishable from
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God, which makes him by default, God.
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Now we come to the. Conclusion of tonight's
1:11:03
presentation. When you examine the writings of
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Josephus, Celsius, Lucian, Suetonius, and Tacitus that we
1:11:11
saw in section one of this presentation, we realize these
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things. They say that Jesus was a wise
1:11:19
man, but they don't talk about what he taught that made him
1:11:22
wise. The Gospels do.
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They say that Jesus claimed to be God, but they don't tell you
1:11:27
how people reacted to that. The Gospels do.
1:11:32
They say that Jesus performed miracles in support of his claim
1:11:35
to be God. But they don't describe any of
1:11:37
the miracles the Gospels do, they say.
1:11:42
That Jesus was put to death. On a Cross by Pontius Pilate.
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But they don't record the conversation between Pilate and
1:11:47
Jesus like the Gospel of John did.
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And when we look at the. Gospels.
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We see that the Gospels tell us that Jesus told both his
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disciples and his enemies alike that they should believe his
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claim to be God in human form on the basis of evidence.
1:12:05
The Gospels also tell us that Jesus never had a formal
1:12:09
education, and yet he understood the Old Testament better than
1:12:12
the religious leaders and the people of his day.
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We also see in the Gospels that Jesus taught that the Scriptures
1:12:19
were inerrant and that the most hard to believe miracle stories
1:12:23
of the Old Testament were historical facts.
1:12:26
Jesus also. Taught that the only way.
1:12:28
To heaven was through a personal relationship with him and that
1:12:31
the majority of the world is going to end up in hell,
1:12:35
including a lot of people who call themselves Christians and
1:12:39
who seem to be legit Christians. Jesus also.
1:12:44
Very strongly and implicitly endorsed Young Earth Creationism
1:12:50
by teaching something that can only be true if Young Earth
1:12:53
Creationism is true. Mainly, he taught that male,
1:12:56
female, and marriage were created at the beginning of
1:12:58
creation. And last and most importantly,
1:13:02
we saw in the Gospels that Jesus claimed in a variety of ways
1:13:07
that cannot be refuted, that he was God in human form.
1:13:12
While most people are willing to accept the fact that Jesus was a
1:13:15
historical person who really lived, they will deny what the
1:13:19
historical record tells us that Jesus said and did.
1:13:23
And the reason why these people in academia, especially the
1:13:26
secular religious professors who were like, Oh yeah, there
1:13:29
definitely was a historical Jesus who was put to death by
1:13:32
Pontius Pilate. But everything else about him
1:13:34
that's recording the Gospels we reject.
1:13:37
The reason why they do this is because of the truth about Jesus
1:13:41
is too inconvenient to them. They can't handle it.
1:13:44
It's way too inconvenient to what they want to do.
1:13:47
I mainly rebel against God. Now that you know about the
1:13:52
historical Jesus, I'll briefly summarize the gospel message of
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salvation that he brought us and that the Bible as a whole brings
1:14:00
us. And on my Rumble channel you can
1:14:02
find a video I did where I give the entire gospel in its full
1:14:07
scriptural glory, with scriptures everywhere supporting
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each and every point of it. But in summary, this is what the
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gospel is. Human beings.
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Are fallen. We're born if a sin nature.
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We rebel against God in our flesh and unrepentant sinners,
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which at one point we all were had it coming.
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Because God is a holy and perfect judge, and he cannot be
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bribed or corrupted. And so when he sees all of the
1:14:35
evil that we as human beings commit, when he sees all the
1:14:39
crimes we commit, when we violate God's laws, He has to
1:14:44
punish us. He has to throw us into the lake
1:14:46
of fire at the end of time and wipe out not just our bodies but
1:14:50
our souls. But as.
1:14:54
Infinite as God. Is in His justice and His wrath
1:14:57
and His vengeance. He is also infinite in His love
1:15:01
and His mercy. And so, even though there was
1:15:05
nobody forcing him to do it, he decided to come to the earth
1:15:09
2000 years ago as Jesus of Nazareth.
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And He went through the ultimate sacrifice on the cross, paying
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the penalty for all sins past, present and future.
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So that if we will repent of our sins, bow our knees to Jesus,
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and enter into a personal relationship with Him, his
1:15:29
sacrifice on the cross can be applied to our sin Ledger and we
1:15:33
can be made right before God. And we can therefore spend
1:15:37
eternity with Jesus and God the Father and the Holy Spirit in
1:15:41
the Kingdom, and that includes the Kingdom that is established
1:15:45
on earth at the end of time. That is the gospel message of
1:15:50
salvation. And that is what Jesus brought
1:15:53
us back in the 1st century. And I very much look forward to
1:15:57
his second coming. That is the end of the
1:16:00
presentation and this is the part of the TTOR show where
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anyone is welcome to ask me questions about anything or
1:16:10
since Brett is here, ask him questions about anything.
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Well, I would like to. Acknowledge a couple other
1:16:18
things that people might be interested in.
1:16:20
I understand when non believers listen to Christians talk about
1:16:25
the history of Jesus, they immediately shut down and go
1:16:28
into the twilight zone. So if you if I might suggest for
1:16:33
those out there, there are quite a bit of atheist skeptics who
1:16:36
are also historians who ended up looking into the historicity of
1:16:42
Jesus Christ. One of the most popular ones who
1:16:45
was who used to be a famous atheist.
1:16:49
His name was Bart D Ehrman EHRMAN.
1:16:54
He wrote a book that Jesus exists, a Historical Argument
1:16:57
for Jesus of Nazareth. He's also been on his own
1:17:00
podcast and shows actually describing the many different
1:17:04
evidences he found for Jesus. And one of the things he's
1:17:08
quoted for is there's more evidence for Jesus.
1:17:11
And some of the historical figures like Abraham Lincoln and
1:17:14
some of our very presidents out there, there's more information
1:17:18
out there about him than some of the leaders that we take for
1:17:21
granted on that. Another thing, as I pointed out
1:17:24
earlier, is we were talking about enemies of Jesus Christ.
1:17:28
Well, as many of you know, we've talked about the history of the
1:17:31
crucifixion. Well, we also have history of
1:17:36
some threats that came to him whenever he was being born into
1:17:39
this world. Look into the story of Herod and
1:17:42
all the babies that he slaughtered.
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There's a lot of historical evidence behind that.
1:17:48
That was one of the things I started looking into whenever I
1:17:50
was a non believer. I felt like that was a major,
1:17:53
extraordinary claim. And as Hitchens said,
1:17:57
extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence.
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So that was one of the first things I looked at because that
1:18:04
was a big call in the Bible. And guess what?
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Not only did he do that and he killed over 14,000 babies
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throughout the entire area, but he also committed a lot of other
1:18:16
atrocities. He was not a good man.
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So you guys can look into that. Like I said, if you don't buy
1:18:22
what Christians are telling you where the great presentation TTR
1:18:26
did, there are skeptical historians out there who would
1:18:31
find you to be stupid or foolish to not accept that the man Jesus
1:18:35
did walk the earth. Yes, I agree with.
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Everything you said, I mean what Brett's showing you with what he
1:18:44
said shows that there's a lot more information out there.
1:18:48
Not about the historical Jesus and the people around him that
1:18:51
are talked about in the Gospels. Then I can fit into an hour,
1:18:55
hour and 10 minute presentation. I mean, even what I have in
1:18:58
there, I've been told is about two hours worth of information
1:19:02
rolled into one. But Brett just showed you all
1:19:05
that. There's so much information
1:19:08
about the historical Jesus and the people around him that it's
1:19:11
absurd for anyone to deny not only that he exists, but also to
1:19:17
deny really anything that's recorded in the Gospels.
1:19:21
A lot of atheists will. Ask out there.
1:19:23
I mean, how do you know which religion?
1:19:26
How do you know that this is right?
1:19:27
And how do you know this information being presented to
1:19:30
you is true? There are some Bibles out there
1:19:33
that literally go so far as to giving you a glossary.
1:19:36
Gives you a map on the different locations where a lot of these
1:19:40
events happened. It's quite extensive on it and
1:19:44
on top of it, every one of the people that are mentioned in the
1:19:47
Bible that had any kind of extraordinary moment or events,
1:19:51
such as the disciples, such as God's enemies, every one of them
1:19:57
is historically presented, especially Pontius Pilate.
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Now if you want to know something crazy.
1:20:04
If you look into the Mithra or Zoroastrian religion, or any of
1:20:08
these older ones that seem like they're similar, none of them
1:20:12
have any kind of historical places.
1:20:15
None of them have historical people.
1:20:18
Nothing to it. That's the reason why those are
1:20:21
put on the shelf with mythology in the library as opposed to
1:20:25
Jesus Christ. Yep, absolutely and.
1:20:30
That's the thing too. I learned about the whole
1:20:32
Mithras thing, like that thing Ellen was saying at the
1:20:35
beginning of my presentation in the first section.
1:20:39
All those, you know, mythological people that they
1:20:41
say, Oh well, the Jesus story is just ripped from these guys.
1:20:45
What people have actually found when they actually dig deep into
1:20:48
the issue is that it's actually the other way around.
1:20:52
Any similarities that these other figures, who are
1:20:54
completely mythical, have with Jesus?
1:20:57
They didn't have these similarities during the time of
1:21:00
Jesus. It was after Jesus and after the
1:21:04
Christian Church started in the 1st century that the stories
1:21:08
around these mythical figures were changed to represent any
1:21:13
kind of similarity to Jesus Christ.
1:21:16
There's one thing too. Unfortunately some religious
1:21:19
people even forget, and I know a lot of non believers don't
1:21:22
realize this. But the Bible is not just one
1:21:25
big old book. It's not some kind of story from
1:21:28
beginning to end. It is a collection of
1:21:31
historians. It is a collection of people who
1:21:35
shared the information throughout generations of
1:21:38
generations. None of the other religions that
1:21:41
you claim out there, the for those out there that think
1:21:43
there's similarity, have all these collections of books to be
1:21:48
able to bounce off each other and be able to point this out,
1:21:52
something to think about. And PPR did a great job of
1:21:55
showing that Jesus Christ spoke of that other information, He
1:21:59
spoke of the other things that the other writers spoke of.
1:22:03
So that's amazing in itself. Yep.
1:22:07
I mean there's. Also, a lot of other things that
1:22:10
Jesus taught that would have been great to include in the
1:22:13
presentation if I had the stamina to do like a two hour
1:22:16
presentation. But the things that I focused on
1:22:20
particular were the things that were the most controversial that
1:22:24
Jesus taught. And there are quite a few
1:22:27
doozies that I went through. But that's The funny thing about
1:22:31
Jesus and the truth. He just didn't really care what
1:22:34
people thought. He only cared about presenting
1:22:37
the truth, which was him. And so he said what needed to be
1:22:41
said. And even though lots of feelings
1:22:44
got hurt and people wanted to kill him for it and eventually
1:22:47
did, didn't matter. It was still the truth.
1:22:50
And because it was the truth, and because he was truth
1:22:53
Incarnate, that's why he rose from the dead after three days.
1:22:56
Because you can never kill the truth.
1:23:01
Well, I think the presentation. Was perfect.
1:23:03
I think it was incredible. I'm just adding my pieces in
1:23:06
there and all that. I just remember whenever I was a
1:23:09
former non believer, being around other non believers, how
1:23:12
they kind of think they just kind of shut down.
1:23:15
So that's why I suggested even though your presentation was
1:23:19
grand and great and all that, you know what it's like dealing
1:23:22
with non believers. The ADD kicks in in about 5
1:23:25
minutes. So I wanted to let people know
1:23:28
if you don't believe the religious folks, if you're so
1:23:30
narrow minded that you just automatically shut down when a
1:23:33
Christian tells you something, you've got plenty of atheist
1:23:36
skeptics out there that will also defend the existence of
1:23:40
Jesus Christ. Let me get you that link, by the
1:23:42
way. Thank you.
1:23:45
I was. About to say hello to.
1:23:47
Dark Moon 75 in the rumble chat, but then he appeared in the
1:23:50
studio. As soon as you get a mic Dark
1:23:53
Moon, I will let you in. For those out there interested.
1:23:58
I will momentarily be putting a link out to a very professional
1:24:03
sounding microphone that users can get for under $26.
1:24:08
Amazon's got so many microphones in stock now that they've
1:24:11
dropped the prices and get you guys one that'll sound like a
1:24:15
radio and you'll actually sound somewhat professional when you
1:24:18
decide you want to talk to us and.
1:24:21
Babooski, It's Dark Moon. Can you hear me?
1:24:26
Oh yes, I can you. Sound good?
1:24:29
Good. I did everything.
1:24:30
Right, and I wasn't stupid like I thought it was.
1:24:32
You sound as good as your offline.
1:24:34
Videos so far. Yeah, new headset.
1:24:40
Well, you got quite the Christmas.
1:24:41
Present, didn't you, 'cause I remember when you were like, oh,
1:24:44
I won't be able to join you till April.
1:24:47
Well, that's just. The the rest of my set up, I've
1:24:50
got the I've got to get my Internet set up and everything
1:24:53
yet. But I'm here at my family's
1:24:56
house right now. Ah.
1:24:58
OK. Sweets and I told.
1:25:02
Him. I was going to try to be doing
1:25:03
this show tonight, so everybody was nice enough to stay out of
1:25:07
my way while I did. Yay.
1:25:12
I definitely been looking forward to this day, that is for
1:25:14
sure, because you, Dark Moon, have been definitely one of the
1:25:18
biggest advocates for Quarter, and you've also done a good job
1:25:24
of making use of other Altech sites that exist as well as
1:25:28
using mainstream sites like YouTube.
1:25:30
It's believe it or not, it's really hard to convince most
1:25:34
creators to diversify where they put their content.
1:25:37
I mean, in this day and age, you'd think it'd be easy to do,
1:25:40
but apparently people like us are just totally abnormal.
1:25:44
Yeah. I've been bouncing off here and
1:25:47
there. I've been on YouTube.
1:25:49
I've been on Josh, who I've been on bit shoot, that was a fun
1:25:54
experience. Bit shoot that motor of theirs.
1:26:01
Well, folks, I got to. Apologize, I attempted to post
1:26:04
that link of Amazon and the link is the size of a small comic
1:26:08
book, so I'll have to you guys will.
1:26:11
Have to follow us. Me and TTR on Twitter.
1:26:15
That way I can give you proper links and all that does the
1:26:18
comments does not like links that are that big.
1:26:22
That is a shame, but. It is what it.
1:26:25
Is I can't do Twitter, Yeah. I banned myself off of.
1:26:31
Twitter Well I I'll. Give X credit.
1:26:36
Since Elon Musk took over, it has definitely been less
1:26:39
censorious than it used to be. And there's things I can talk
1:26:43
about on there that would not have been so free to talk about
1:26:47
before. And and it seems to be even
1:26:49
easier to live stream to the site than it ever was before.
1:26:52
Because I remember they used to have to go through this thing
1:26:54
called Periscope for you to stream to Twitter, but now you
1:26:57
can just do it directly. I like that.
1:27:02
Yeah, I banned myself. Off of there before Elon Musk
1:27:06
got a hold of it, yeah. Yeah, of course, I expect.
1:27:11
You know, the globalist to have ultimate control over it down
1:27:14
the road. So it's not like I'm putting all
1:27:16
my eggs in that basket. I'm just taking advantage of the
1:27:20
new freedoms that allows while it has them.
1:27:25
Yeah, the reason why I decided I'd.
1:27:27
Stick with quarter though, is because it, well, you own it and
1:27:32
I know you're not going to slam people from saying things that
1:27:36
you don't agree with. YouTube.
1:27:41
Yeah, YouTube. They like to.
1:27:43
They like to play favorites, you know?
1:27:46
Oh yeah. Especially if you happen to be
1:27:50
on the very far left and you are part of the woke social justice
1:27:54
crowd. Oh, then you get boosted in
1:27:56
their algo. Yeah, I don't want to say too
1:28:01
much about. It because I don't want Rich
1:28:03
Channel to get hit, but they've already tried to slam me twice.
1:28:08
They've censored my comments. They have.
1:28:10
They've censored comments on my own stream.
1:28:12
I was. Going to say I remember.
1:28:16
I remember when they blurred those thumbnails of yours.
1:28:20
Yeah, I took pictures that stuck them in the.
1:28:22
Video that was kind of weird and I see stuff way worse.
1:28:26
Than that in people's thumbnails on YouTube.
1:28:28
It's like, wait, that's the thing that's too horrific for
1:28:32
children to watch. But you know, Wolverine game
1:28:34
ripped in half while covered in blood.
1:28:36
Oh, that. That's totally fine for kids.
1:28:39
I would suggest for people. Who are posting videos?
1:28:42
Don't Don't look at other people's YouTube videos and say
1:28:46
to yourself, oh, they weren't able to do that.
1:28:48
Then I'll do something, and even a little bit more gentler Now.
1:28:52
If YouTube has it out for you, it doesn't matter how nice you
1:28:55
are. I actually got a strike a long
1:28:57
time ago for I'm doing a video called Jesus is the Guiding
1:29:01
Light or something. That was just all good stuff.
1:29:05
Somebody who got me for hate speech took a while to get that
1:29:08
off of my channel. Oh.
1:29:13
My gosh, yeah. Well, you know, there are some
1:29:14
people. Are like that.
1:29:17
Yeah. So Dark, So dark.
1:29:19
Men 70. Five, since this is your first
1:29:22
time here on any of my podcasts, much less this one, if you could
1:29:27
tell us a little bit about what's been on your mind lately.
1:29:32
I'm kind of going through a. Transitional phase of
1:29:39
spirituality, I guess. I've been watching like
1:29:45
religious videos stuff for a long time, but sometime in
1:29:48
October I kind of got this idea I should be doing more.
1:29:53
So I'm I'm in a I'm in a part of my life right now where I'm
1:29:59
trying to. Cut out a lot of the wrong
1:30:03
things in my. Life, you know, things that I've
1:30:06
been doing that I shouldn't be doing.
1:30:10
No, stuff like that. Like I said in that one comment
1:30:16
that I left you on another video a while back, I said God's doing
1:30:20
some work with me. I believe he is.
1:30:24
That's good because he would like.
1:30:25
To do some work on all of us. Have you?
1:30:31
Have you been? Going to any churches in your
1:30:33
area at any point? No, I.
1:30:37
Haven't really been going to any churches yet, but I have been.
1:30:41
I've been watching a lot of Crossfire my church.
1:30:46
Yeah. I really.
1:30:53
Don't know of any churches around here that I think I can
1:30:55
go to that would. That, you know, the right kind.
1:31:02
Of church, if you know what I mean.
1:31:04
There's a lot of them who believe different things, things
1:31:06
that aren't in the Bible and oh. Yeah, are you in a small town or
1:31:11
a big city? Or like a medium city small
1:31:15
town? I live out here in the.
1:31:16
Country in West Virginia. I live in a mountain area, so
1:31:22
I'm going to guess that. There's not many churches in
1:31:25
your area. Well, there's.
1:31:28
There's maybe two and two in this town that I know of, but
1:31:33
this town is small. This town is so small that if
1:31:35
you drove past it and you blink, you'll miss it.
1:31:39
So it's kind of like. Monmouth and Independence in
1:31:42
Oregon, where I used to live, like they like going, going One
1:31:45
Direction. They're fairly sizable, but
1:31:49
where they meet in the middle around the highway that runs
1:31:52
between them. If you just go through the
1:31:54
highway and you'll go through the whole town in like 2
1:31:57
minutes, yeah, that's about. The size of it.
1:32:02
What's weird though, is in that. Town.
1:32:04
There's a whole bunch of churches, which made me puzzle
1:32:06
because I'm like, wait a minute, I didn't think there's even that
1:32:09
many people. Why is there like 7 or 8
1:32:11
churches in this town? But yeah, that's an Oregon
1:32:18
problem though. Because.
1:32:19
Oregon tends to have a lot of churches, but not a lot of
1:32:22
people attending them on average.
1:32:25
Now, I said in that one. Video that I did that I've been
1:32:30
to churches off and on throughout my life.
1:32:35
I think you watched that. Video.
1:32:37
I don't know if Brett's seen it or not for the audience.
1:32:41
Watching this, can you talk a little bit about what that last
1:32:44
church you went to was like last?
1:32:48
Church I've been to was back in 2000. 9:00 or so somewhere.
1:32:56
Around there, 2920 ten somewhere around there.
1:33:00
That's about a long time ago. Yeah, we had a good pastor and.
1:33:05
Everything. And it wasn't really a church.
1:33:10
He was down to having to have church services in his home.
1:33:14
So that's where we went home. Church.
1:33:16
I know what that's like. He.
1:33:19
He called it the Church like they had back in the days of
1:33:26
Jesus, is what he called it. Where two or three are gathered
1:33:30
in his. Name.
1:33:33
Yeah, I guess when? You read the book of Acts.
1:33:34
You see that they met in their homes as well as in the
1:33:38
synagogues when they could. But churches are totally, you
1:33:42
know, totally Christian thing to do.
1:33:47
That's really the last church I've been to, and as far as I
1:33:50
know of, that pastor is falling away.
1:33:53
But he's still a good man and everything, But he's he's
1:33:57
falling. Away he's let things.
1:33:59
Get to him here and there. He left the faith.
1:34:03
I don't know about leaving the faith.
1:34:05
I don't think he left the faith. I think he just.
1:34:08
Backslid, I guess would be. It so.
1:34:12
Basically, he just. Quit being a pastor and lived a
1:34:17
a less than perfect life for for kindness sake.
1:34:21
Yeah, that's. Like I said, he's always been
1:34:24
good to me. So yeah, I'm.
1:34:27
Trying not to say anything bad about him.
1:34:30
Right. I got that, yeah.
1:34:33
I've I've been to a lot of churches over my life too,
1:34:37
especially when I was in college going to different towns and
1:34:40
cities. So I got to be exposed to more
1:34:44
what churches are like. And yeah, a lot of them I could
1:34:47
definitely do without. The one I'm going to now.
1:34:51
Crossfire is probably the best one for me because I actually
1:34:55
have a chance to be a part of their team and actually help
1:34:58
them out with the various fields of media that they want to
1:35:02
partake in. And I can help out with other
1:35:05
things around there too, that aren't media related.
1:35:08
But like when I was younger, I had a hard time getting involved
1:35:12
in really any kind of church. I mean, even the ones I would
1:35:16
consider good. They expressed no interest in
1:35:20
having me help out with anything when I asked.
1:35:22
So yeah, I I I can see where a lot of people get turned away
1:35:27
from the faith-based off of the way that churches behave and
1:35:31
Christian people behave, but a lot of them are good ones.
1:35:36
When you find a good one, it's very.
1:35:37
Fulfilling. That's another thing we talked
1:35:39
about. Earlier too though, isn't he the
1:35:41
OR Jesus warned us of false teachers, false preachers, false
1:35:46
out all these things and that people somehow forget that?
1:35:53
Yep, right there in Matthew. Seven.
1:35:55
I believe it is because it's right around the same area where
1:35:58
it's. I was quoting from in my sermon
1:36:00
like it was between verse 14 and verse 21, I think in Matthew 7,
1:36:06
where he talks about false teachers and the bad fruits they
1:36:09
put out and buy your fruit, you'll recognize them.
1:36:12
That's all in that same passage. It's pretty entertaining that
1:36:15
reading. Actually, that's also.
1:36:18
Totally true and. It also talks about that and
1:36:21
some of the other New Testament books.
1:36:22
I think First Peter is the other one that talks about false
1:36:25
teachers and how dark and despondent they are their souls
1:36:30
and basically you need to just disregard everything they say
1:36:34
and I have fellowship with. Them, but yeah, I think.
1:36:45
I think mostly what I've been trying to do.
1:36:48
I don't know if it's right or not, but I've mostly been trying
1:36:51
to get. My ministering from.
1:36:56
You know the crossfire videos and.
1:37:00
I've been talking with my sister.
1:37:02
She goes to church. Have you ever been to her
1:37:07
church? No.
1:37:10
She just recently started going She's trying to get right with
1:37:13
God too because she's she's I'll she's diabetic.
1:37:20
She's older than I am and. She's.
1:37:24
She's been through a lot of things, yeah.
1:37:30
Yeah, I know what that's like. My dad's.
1:37:31
Best friend is diabetic, so I've seen what that can be like.
1:37:36
Yeah, my. Dad was too.
1:37:41
Yeah, my wife and. Brother, unfortunately also
1:37:44
suffer from being a diabetic. My brother's got to do the shots
1:37:49
and my wife not as often. They've got a pill now that
1:37:53
helps a little bit with that. And of course, stress ain't too
1:37:56
good on it. My sister just recently.
1:38:02
Started taking shots. I think she used to take pills,
1:38:11
but yeah, that's about it. It's about all I've got to say
1:38:18
on its subject. Well, Dark Moon, if you don't
1:38:22
mind. Since it's your first
1:38:24
introduction, why don't you tell folks a little bit about
1:38:27
yourself and what kind of videos you make?
1:38:31
Well, when I started YouTube back in 2010, I was doing like
1:38:36
mostly just gaming videos and. Even back then, I noticed.
1:38:41
A couple of things that wasn't right about it because when I
1:38:45
was doing videos for them back then back in 2010, which is when
1:38:48
I got my first channel. Up, I think the one I have.
1:38:52
Now is my third channel. When I got my first channel
1:38:55
going, they would, they would cut out some of the music I had
1:39:02
in the games I was playing. They would cut that out and
1:39:05
pretty much mute the whole thing.
1:39:06
So me doing commentary was there was no point in me doing it and
1:39:15
Oh yeah, I. Found that to be held to live
1:39:18
stream something like Bethesda games because they like to have
1:39:22
radios playing in the background.
1:39:24
All that 50s music which I enjoy but doesn't do good for
1:39:28
copyright, no. I used to.
1:39:31
I used. To play like the older games
1:39:33
they would copyright. They would copyright the music
1:39:35
in the game itself. And they would end up.
1:39:40
Muting that so when they muted that they would meet my
1:39:44
commentary with. So I basically ended up having a
1:39:47
video with no sound and no. One wants to watch that I
1:39:55
started my second channel. Around. 2013 or so and deleted
1:40:04
that one in 2017. Thanks to this dumb situation I
1:40:09
got myself in. With the woman I was.
1:40:14
Talking to. She ended up planning this.
1:40:18
Weird. Idea in my head that there were
1:40:21
trolls out to get me. And she was so convinced.
1:40:26
Of these trolls that she taught me into deleting a lot of my
1:40:29
stuff that was online, I ended up believing my channel.
1:40:31
I ended up deleting my account. From this writing site.
1:40:35
That I was on. I backed up my stuff first
1:40:38
because I had over like 200 and some.
1:40:42
Works up on that. And.
1:40:46
She has. Pretty much vowed to make my
1:40:48
life a living hell if she ever found me again.
1:40:51
So yeah, a lot of my, a lot of the circles I'm in with my
1:40:59
writing and whatnot. I've made friends with a lot of
1:41:04
female writers, and we keep in touch a lot, and we're just
1:41:09
friends. That's all we are.
1:41:11
But she was under this impression that I every woman I
1:41:14
talked to, I was fooling around with.
1:41:18
Even though I've got friends, I've got friends in Arizona,
1:41:21
I've got one in Colorado, I've got one in Canada, I've got one
1:41:25
in Argentina. But somehow I'm flying all
1:41:27
across, all across the world, meeting these women, you know,
1:41:31
without leaving your room. Magic trick.
1:41:36
Magic. We got a magic.
1:41:38
But yeah, she she once told me that.
1:41:44
When she did get up with me and. She's going to end up slitting
1:41:47
my throat in my sleep. So I was like, you know what?
1:41:49
No, I'm. I'm kind of this is this is too
1:41:52
high maintenance for me. I'm getting out of this.
1:41:55
I ended up cutting her off. I blocked her on everything.
1:42:01
That sounds like what we call a. Fatal attraction.
1:42:05
So yeah. Here's a.
1:42:08
Funny thing I didn't know. I I didn't even know halfway
1:42:10
through the relationship until halfway through the relationship
1:42:13
that she was already married. Oh, she.
1:42:16
Kept that little. Secret from you, huh?
1:42:19
No. Oh no.
1:42:23
But you know it It. Did kind of hurt at first when I
1:42:26
ended up breaking it off. I broke it off in like April of
1:42:29
2019 it. Hurt a little bit because.
1:42:34
Because she was beautiful. She was nice to look at and
1:42:36
everything, but not all of her cogs were turning.
1:42:40
You know what I mean? Yeah.
1:42:43
I kind of figured that part out when she talked about wanting to
1:42:47
slit your throat while you were asleep and all the other creepy
1:42:51
stuff she was doing, but a lot of the A.
1:42:57
Lot of the people I've met through riding, I still keep in
1:43:01
touch with. We're friends on Facebook.
1:43:03
I have a Discord I talked to 1:00 on there are a few.
1:43:08
Who are also video? Creators.
1:43:10
I keep in touch with them. Sweet.
1:43:15
Do they do like writing? Videos.
1:43:18
Or do they just do other kinds of videos?
1:43:20
I had one. She stopped doing them, but she
1:43:24
used to like read her poems and videos that said to
1:43:27
inspirational music and stuff. She used to do that.
1:43:32
She doesn't do that anymore as far.
1:43:34
As I know of. Yeah, play YouTube sensors.
1:43:38
And music being played in your video these days, it's kind of
1:43:42
hard to do that. Yeah, YouTube.
1:43:46
That's a that's a lot of the problems is that they stop using
1:43:50
YouTube because of all of that sorts of stuff that they do on
1:43:53
there. But that is 1.
1:43:55
Of the nice parts about X and Corner and Rumble is that we
1:44:00
don't have that kind of TOS community guideline.
1:44:05
So basically, as long as you aren't trying to claim credit
1:44:08
for something that's not yours, free to use it.
1:44:14
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why.
1:44:15
I'm sticking with quarters, but that's the way it should be.
1:44:19
Really. I mean, it's pretty easy to
1:44:21
figure out when someone's trying to take credit for something
1:44:24
they didn't make and when they're just doing something
1:44:27
with that because they think it goes cool with their video.
1:44:31
I mean, I think we can all tell that.
1:44:33
Yeah, I mean there. Is such a thing as fair use.
1:44:37
Exactly. That's part.
1:44:38
Of that is fair use. I used to have my stuff going.
1:44:44
Up on Joshua too, but he had like some kind of server snafu
1:44:50
and he ended up deleting everything but three of my
1:44:53
videos. Really.
1:44:57
Yeah, I I. Asked him about it, I said why
1:44:59
did you delete my stuff? I I was in violation.
1:45:02
And he said no, we had a server mishap when we were moving the
1:45:05
videos over and we ended up losing all your content.
1:45:07
I was like, oh, I don't want that.
1:45:10
To happen again. So quarter it is.
1:45:14
Yeah, I still talk to Josh. He's.
1:45:15
Totally for free speech. So when he tells you that
1:45:19
something like that happened, it's what happened.
1:45:22
Yeah, that's what I figured. His main problem right now is.
1:45:25
Money. I don't know if he's going to be
1:45:28
able to keep his site online moving forward or not.
1:45:32
Yeah, he lost loop. Already, I think, yeah.
1:45:36
I was on there for a while. Yeah, which is sad because I
1:45:39
like loop. Loop was very functional and
1:45:41
clean and had an app in the mighty Network section of the
1:45:45
App Store and it was great. Yeah, to to run all.
1:45:53
That stuff at the. Same time you got to have money
1:45:55
to do it. And as far as I know he doesn't
1:45:58
have a regular steady job. He's like a Commission based
1:46:01
tech guy. And you know, when you don't
1:46:04
have a lot of demand for your work, you're not going to have
1:46:07
as much money and it'll be harder to pay bills.
1:46:11
Yeah, that that makes. Sense.
1:46:13
And plus, he does a lot of this stuff.
1:46:16
He does a lot of this stuff for people he want.
1:46:19
He. I know he wants to help people
1:46:20
and everything, yeah, but he also has.
1:46:23
His hosting website, which is literally what's hosting my
1:46:27
quarter site and hosting my domain for creation social.
1:46:32
So that site alone is going to give him some money at all
1:46:36
times. At least he can eat.
1:46:40
That's true, very true. But man man, when I got the
1:46:45
creation social domain back from Epic and got it on to the Joshua
1:46:50
hosting services, boy did I learn how I was being scammed
1:46:54
out of money just to have the domain for my site.
1:46:58
Over on Epic they want to charge me $130.00 a year just to have
1:47:07
the URL creation dot social to. Have the same URL.
1:47:13
Domain on Joshua hosting 30 bucks a year and that's a. 100
1:47:19
bucks saved up there, that's. What I would call a grifting
1:47:24
scam right there. And they're charging me 100
1:47:28
bucks more for the exact same service I'm getting at Josh and
1:47:31
hosting. It's like, really I.
1:47:37
Thought the epic was about all. That freedom of speech stuff.
1:47:41
Oh. They are.
1:47:42
They just, you know. Want money for it?
1:47:45
Yeah. I can understand supporting.
1:47:50
But not like that, yeah. So, Brett, we've had.
1:48:01
Dark Moon hold the floor for a while, and I held the floor for
1:48:05
a long time with my presentation.
1:48:07
But what is going on in the life of Brett Keene, the content
1:48:11
creator? Not Brett Keene, the man.
1:48:15
Well, besides the daughter. Issue that we talked about
1:48:18
earlier Also had some issues with the plumbing.
1:48:21
There seems to be a curse with the Keene family.
1:48:24
Brother TTOR. It seems like when we hear one
1:48:27
good thing, we then get 3 bad things right afterwards.
1:48:31
I don't know what it is. Maybe it's a Pagan putting a
1:48:33
spell on me or something, I don't know.
1:48:35
But it's rough. Yeah, the plumbing messed up.
1:48:40
That's caused the toilets to explode.
1:48:43
Not literally like, you know, a Muslim terrorist or something
1:48:46
kind of act boom, you know, So we've got that to deal with and
1:48:52
a couple other things. I also kind of got into it with
1:48:55
some of my relations. They not showed up at the
1:49:00
hospital and that kind of, you know, that kind of irritates.
1:49:06
Right. I I would get that.
1:49:08
What about your content creation?
1:49:11
You got any plans for some cool videos for the near future?
1:49:17
Well, it's going to be tough. To top this one, I thought it
1:49:20
was pretty good and we've got it.
1:49:22
Obviously we've told people it's streaming through both rumbles
1:49:26
and all that, but there's a lot of things.
1:49:29
And honestly, I mean all I have to do is just simply scroll
1:49:34
through Twitter for about 5 minutes and if it's not some
1:49:37
kind of political atrocity going on, there's something going on
1:49:41
with school shooters and every horrible thing imaginable.
1:49:44
So you never really run out of cunt.
1:49:48
As long as you look at Twitter just for even a few minutes,
1:49:51
it's just like wow. And of course you come up with a
1:49:54
lot of great topics too, a lot of inspirational stuff that one
1:49:57
could get into discussions with. I am very surprised that more
1:50:01
people don't, like approach you on this.
1:50:03
Maybe they're intimidated. Maybe they see that you're so
1:50:06
organized and articulate on these matters.
1:50:09
They're like, hell, no, I don't want to touch this guy.
1:50:11
He's going to beat me up, you know.
1:50:17
Man but since you brought up a current events I did notice
1:50:22
today more news about that that shooter at that one school.
1:50:26
I forget what it's called, but the one that just happened looks
1:50:32
like we. Got another case?
1:50:33
Of the the Rainbow Brigade. Yeah, I actually.
1:50:38
Just recently, I know that you were busy setting everything up,
1:50:41
but I ended up making a list of the last bit of shooters over
1:50:46
the last six years, and every single one of them have been a
1:50:49
part of the the Rainbow military or Mafia, whatever they call it.
1:50:56
Oh, there it is. Hold on, let.
1:50:57
Me take one second here and show that on screen because I found.
1:51:03
It I. Found the post you're talking
1:51:05
about seems to be a pattern. Seems to be a real pattern.
1:51:13
And you know the Democrats. Their.
1:51:14
Big thing is, they want to They try to suggest that, well, these
1:51:19
people didn't feel accepted or they didn't feel loved.
1:51:22
Well, guess what? Whenever I was going to high
1:51:24
school, I wasn't the most loved guy either.
1:51:27
Here I am, a young man with premature Gray hair.
1:51:30
Looks that'll cause all the guys envy because their women are
1:51:34
looking at me and I was treated pretty damn mean sometimes, but
1:51:38
I never thought to myself, you know what, I think I'm just
1:51:41
going to walk through the halls and shoot up everything.
1:51:43
It's never been a thought of mine and I was treated like a
1:51:46
total ass hat in school. How so was that?
1:51:53
And trust me, folks. It don't matter that I was 6
1:51:56
foot five, 250 lbs of pure sexual loss and power.
1:52:00
They just they wanted it out for me.
1:52:03
Yeah, it was a little different. For me when I was in high school
1:52:06
because, well, I wasn't. Carrying as much weight.
1:52:10
As I am now. But I was about 6465, most of
1:52:13
high school, and you know, I was star basketball player.
1:52:17
And in my senior year during basketball season, I got to be
1:52:22
winter homecoming king. But outside of basketball, I
1:52:26
always felt like a loner out there, almost like people were
1:52:29
too afraid to approach me. Like you were saying earlier, I
1:52:32
just figured it was because of my intimidating build.
1:52:35
Because, you know, I'm 6 foot five.
1:52:38
I have a 7 foot wingspan as far as if I stretch my arms out from
1:52:42
fingertip to fingertip and not thin at all back then and now.
1:52:49
And I mean you saw the full body pic I sent you for the graphic
1:52:54
art. I mean that's basically what I
1:52:56
look like in high school, just with a smaller stomach.
1:52:59
Isn't it so weird? When you watch movies on
1:53:02
television or you watch concerts and all that on television, most
1:53:07
of the people that you're looking at are like 5 foot tall
1:53:09
straight out of the Wizard of Oz, the Munchkins.
1:53:12
You know what I mean? But here we are.
1:53:14
Anybody that's like 6 foot or anything like that, we look
1:53:18
pretty much. They make us look the same size
1:53:20
on the screen. So I I've got a lot of people,
1:53:23
they'll be seeing me on the live stream and they'll say bright,
1:53:26
you're that tall. Yeah, goodness gracious.
1:53:28
I have to have a wide screen camera over here in order to be
1:53:31
seen. Yeah, that.
1:53:34
That does remind me, though, of the concert.
1:53:38
That I was involved. With the production of on New
1:53:41
Year's Eve night, we had the rhythms of Renewal concerts at
1:53:47
Crossfire at my church. And one thing that we well, the
1:53:51
thing that I did was I actually recorded on video the whole
1:53:54
concert after I made sure we could pick up all the sound
1:53:58
through the sound board and the band Leviticus in particular.
1:54:03
My goodness, that was extremely good.
1:54:07
Christian death metal, especially for a relatively new
1:54:10
band. I mean, the amount of Polish
1:54:13
they had for being a new band was pretty amazing.
1:54:19
That's usually 2 words you don't see put.
1:54:21
Together. I mean, there's been Christian
1:54:24
death metal bands before. Back in the early mid 2000s
1:54:28
there was a Christian metal band called Underoath that was so
1:54:33
popular that even one of their songs got put onto the official
1:54:37
soundtrack for EA Sports Madden O 7, which back then Madden used
1:54:42
to have like a really diverse set of genres and bands and
1:54:46
their official soundtracks and Underoath made their cut, which
1:54:50
I thought was pretty impressive when I found out that little
1:54:53
factoid but the lead but. The lead singer of.
1:54:57
Leviticus is taller than I am. I'm 65, I'm 65, so I figure he
1:55:06
had to be at least 6 foot and a 6 1/2, maybe 6 foot 7.
1:55:10
Muscular, Got a big curly mustache that just looks
1:55:14
awesome. Kind of like the mustaches that
1:55:17
you see in the stereotypes of like the 80s or the 70s.
1:55:21
I don't know where you guys grew.
1:55:23
Up or whatever. But I obviously imagined that I
1:55:27
probably received some of the atrocities in school that I did
1:55:31
was because when I was a child, I was born in Saint Louis and
1:55:35
raised up through many of the years and it's like one of the
1:55:37
murder capitals of the world. I'm surprised they even made it
1:55:40
out there and then didn't end up and out like of the river or
1:55:43
something. Ended up moving out in the
1:55:45
country about 1314 years old and have no interest in going back.
1:55:50
Yep. Now let's get back.
1:55:54
To the thing Brett was referring to earlier is post on X about
1:55:59
all these shooters recently and the common things they have.
1:56:04
We see the rainbow flag and the trans flag and mass shooters in
1:56:10
the see Colorado Spring Denver, Aberdeen, which I don't know
1:56:16
where that is. Nashville, TN which I think that
1:56:20
was the one at that Christian School if I remember right.
1:56:23
But it's all it's happening so consistently now, Brett, that
1:56:27
I'm starting to wonder if maybe like this is just part of the
1:56:31
life cycle of one of these people.
1:56:34
It's like you start out as one biological sex, but then you're
1:56:38
convinced by others that because you feel like you're the
1:56:41
opposite and you can just make yourself the opposite and be the
1:56:45
opposite. And then you find out that life
1:56:47
isn't as rosy as the people in your community make it out to be
1:56:51
when you come out as trans. And and then I guess you just
1:56:54
resort to going after all the people who oppress you.
1:56:58
And I don't mean like debate them and when I mean like pull
1:57:02
out some hardware and lay some bodies out on a few slabs.
1:57:06
Seems to be the life cycle of these people at this point.
1:57:13
If I may I? Think that part of your problem
1:57:17
is one second. Can you?
1:57:19
Put me up on the big screen real quick.
1:57:21
I'll show you a collage I made. And these are all a lot of them
1:57:26
are LGBT, but also a lot of them are.
1:57:30
Let me stretch it out for you so you can see this better.
1:57:33
Yeah. I put together a bit of a
1:57:35
collage with a meme thing on it. Let's get this going so you can
1:57:41
see. As you can see, it's a.
1:57:43
It's a fairly. Hold on.
1:57:49
Oh, you seen that, did you? You.
1:57:52
Do realize if. Democrats.
1:57:53
That's funny, people. Gun drugs would drop by 90%.
1:57:58
There you go. Oh.
1:57:59
Yeah, that's the great thing too.
1:58:01
About all these trans people, magically all of their journals
1:58:04
and the notes they leave behind it all says that they're far
1:58:08
left Wackos who vote Democrat and evil orange man bad and
1:58:12
another thing. Another thing too, Brother TTR
1:58:16
is they're all godless. If you check out any other
1:58:20
Facebooks, a lot of these were social media people.
1:58:23
There was a guy called Skeptical Atheist a while back who used to
1:58:26
preach against guns and talk about how abusive religious
1:58:29
people were. Did an entire series about
1:58:32
religious child abuse. This guy turns around one day
1:58:36
after doing some mushrooms and shoots his wife right in the
1:58:38
face and then ends up taking himself up before the cops come
1:58:42
out. No, no, no.
1:58:43
He didn't end himself. I think he wounded himself.
1:58:47
The cops put him in prison. He's still in prison today.
1:58:51
So yeah, there you go. That guy right there above the
1:58:54
cute little words you see in the middle of the screen, you see
1:58:57
the guy that's white with the beard.
1:58:59
That guy went into a Texas Christian Church.
1:59:02
He didn't do a school shooting. He did church shooting.
1:59:04
Some of these are church shooters, Yeah, I.
1:59:09
Think I remember a couple. Of those two from a few years
1:59:11
back, crazy how we have all these shootings coming out, you
1:59:16
know, from all these far left, Democrat, conservative, hating,
1:59:20
Christian, hating people. And yet all you hear in the
1:59:23
media is how they're the victims and all the people they're
1:59:26
shooting up, they're the real bad guys.
1:59:28
They're the real oppressors here.
1:59:32
Almost like they're trying to justify the.
1:59:33
Shootings. Oh, they tried to.
1:59:35
Definitely. Justify it.
1:59:36
Let me tell you guys, a little fact here that'll probably be
1:59:40
interesting to you, but not a surprise.
1:59:42
And then there has been no school shootings in any
1:59:45
Christian schools whatsoever. I have looked for shootings that
1:59:49
happen because when you're talking to atheists, the the go
1:59:53
to thing is, oh, but religious people are mean.
1:59:56
They've done some things well. They haven't done any shootings
1:59:59
in their schools. Apparently Christians take care
2:00:02
of their kids. That whole child abuse thing is
2:00:04
kind of funny, since there's actually no killing actually
2:00:07
going on in religious classrooms.
2:00:10
Isn't that something? Anywhere prayer is allowed, or
2:00:13
the Bible or Christianity, it doesn't seem to be any death.
2:00:19
Yep, exactly. I mean, some people would look
2:00:22
at the Nashville shooter and be like, well, that was a Christian
2:00:25
School. But if you actually look a
2:00:27
little more closely, that Christian School was part of a
2:00:31
Christian denomination that's as liberal and leftist as you can
2:00:35
get. So it's really just an extension
2:00:38
of, you know, the far left wackos getting by their own
2:00:42
people. I think that even as some
2:00:45
atheists, I have to admit, whenever they see something dumb
2:00:48
happen with the church, like for instance that church that
2:00:51
endorse the LGBT, put their flags all over the building and
2:00:54
all that, you know, the same building that just mysteriously
2:00:58
and supernaturally burned up in the fire recently.
2:01:02
So, and no, nobody caused that. There's a lot of people are
2:01:06
saying it was an act of God. I wouldn't be surprised to be
2:01:10
honest with you. But yeah, there you go.
2:01:12
Spontaneous combustion, ladies. And gents, you know that
2:01:16
actually. Used to be a scientific theory
2:01:18
back then. Which part?
2:01:21
The part of spontaneous. Combustion.
2:01:23
They used to believe that people just blew up.
2:01:25
They were just sitting in their damn chair in the porch.
2:01:31
Scientists used to take that seriously.
2:01:33
I know there's a science behind. It but I I just don't know what
2:01:38
it is. Oh, the theory Was that our?
2:01:40
Electrical. You know, a stimuli would
2:01:43
touched the wrong thing and then boom, our bodies would blow up
2:01:46
and all that. But apparently that was just
2:01:48
some kind of nonsense, kind of like the the Red Devil of
2:01:51
Jersey. Well, there were.
2:01:54
Other factors too, that would. Be like how much alcohol you had
2:01:57
in your body and and whether or not you were overweight or thin,
2:02:05
Oh yeah. If you're covered in.
2:02:07
Moonshine and stuff. I'm pretty sure that'll light
2:02:09
you up real good. No, I mean, I mean when.
2:02:14
You when you're drunk on it, when you have enough in your
2:02:16
system, it's it's supposed to be a one of the things.
2:02:23
We used to talk about this in my.
2:02:25
Class in school. Well, the moral of your.
2:02:29
Story is dark moon. We better stay away from the
2:02:32
alcohols then, huh? We don't want to blows ourselves
2:02:35
up. I got no problem.
2:02:37
With that, I don't drink. Me neither.
2:02:42
Well, I should say I don't drink much.
2:02:44
Every now and then I take a drink of.
2:02:49
Moonshine that a friend of mine. Sometimes makes, but I don't.
2:02:53
I don't drink it crazily. I I take maybe one drink and
2:02:56
that's it. Just see what it tastes like.
2:03:00
Now we're. What is your thoughts on this
2:03:03
DTR? I've actually had some non
2:03:04
believers say, well you know, Jesus turned water into wine and
2:03:09
stuff. So if that's the case, how could
2:03:10
there be some actual issue? It seems as though the Bible's
2:03:14
very clear about moderation. I I recall.
2:03:18
If I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a passage in
2:03:21
the Bible where I think Hosea was having stomach issues and it
2:03:25
was suggested that he drink a little bit of something with
2:03:28
alcohol in it in order to settle his stomach.
2:03:31
What's your thoughts on that? Yeah, I.
2:03:35
Know, I don't know where I learned this from, but I learned
2:03:39
somewhere along the way that back in the time of Jesus, they
2:03:45
didn't have the way of purifying water that we do now.
2:03:50
And so often times wine was actually less distilled and
2:03:55
less, you know, icky and dirty than actual water was back then.
2:04:00
And so there was more of an incentive to drink that at
2:04:04
times, just because, you know, it's just not as contaminated as
2:04:09
the water at the time. So they got a new article they
2:04:16
got. A new article on this shooter
2:04:18
and apparently he's claiming that he was bullied and all
2:04:21
that. And you know what bullying means
2:04:23
to these folks if you misgender them or, you know, don't say
2:04:27
they're pretty that day, that'll get them all hyped up.
2:04:30
The thing I don't understand is why is it that when these
2:04:34
shooters, I hate to put it this way, but they get angry at a
2:04:38
group of people for doing the thing to them.
2:04:41
So why did they plan out this whole thing of explosives and
2:04:45
grenades and and things that will kill random amount of
2:04:49
people that had nothing to do with it?
2:04:50
Why don't they specifically, you know, go after the people that
2:04:54
actually annoyed them? I don't get it.
2:04:56
Do you know what I mean? You understand?
2:04:58
Yep, I do. Because.
2:05:00
That's what we've seen with all of the BLM ANTIFA stuff is they
2:05:04
aren't going to like conservative or Trump supporting
2:05:08
towns or cities and rioting there and burning stuff down.
2:05:12
No, they go to the big cities where their own people are
2:05:16
running things and they're basically just destroying their
2:05:19
own stuff, destroying their own backyard.
2:05:22
To put it another way, yeah, they're just very stupid, as
2:05:26
lack of a better phrase. But I mean, yeah, like you're
2:05:30
saying, if if the evil orange man's bad and all of his
2:05:33
supporters are evil and Christians are bad, why would
2:05:37
you go to the places where all of your own people congregate
2:05:41
and all of your own stuff is, and hurt those people and
2:05:45
destroy all your own stuff, why don't you go into the land of
2:05:48
your enemies? I think the answer to that is
2:05:51
that, one, their pansies and two, they know if they were to
2:05:55
go to conservative towns or cities where not a lot of people
2:05:58
who think like them are in positions of power, they know
2:06:02
they wouldn't be able to do half the crap that they do in the big
2:06:04
cities run by Democrats. So they go and act.
2:06:08
They go and act out where they basically are allowed to, which
2:06:11
is in their own camps controlled by Democrats.
2:06:20
I think another reason too is the reason why they do what they
2:06:22
do. And they want to take out.
2:06:26
Everybody is that. OK, I don't know how you guys.
2:06:31
Feel about this particular topic, but I believe that some
2:06:35
of them have actual demons in their lives.
2:06:39
Oh yeah. Yeah, there's.
2:06:40
There's something wrong with these folks for sure, You know,
2:06:44
besides the shooters and the issues you've been hearing about
2:06:47
all this stuff. And I'll probably end up making
2:06:48
a video about this TTR since you did ask me future ideas.
2:06:52
But people who are standing out in the highway, whether the the
2:06:56
climate people or the folks who feel sorry for Gaza, I don't
2:07:00
know what goes through their mind to think that, oh, I'm
2:07:03
going to lay down in the highway and somehow this is going to
2:07:07
make people sympathize. If I had a problem with what my
2:07:11
country was doing, wouldn't it be smart to go lay on the
2:07:15
parking lot of the White House or the Capitol or something?
2:07:19
That's where you would, you know, be the irritator.
2:07:22
But out in the highway, just seems like that's going to get
2:07:24
you ran over. And it's also going to make a
2:07:26
bunch of people heading to work pissed off and not give a rat's
2:07:29
ass about what your plight is. You know what I mean?
2:07:33
Yeah. And that's exactly what.
2:07:35
I. Think too, when you do stuff
2:07:38
like that, where you're literally impeding people's
2:07:40
ability to go to and from home and work like that, they're not
2:07:44
going to be sympathetic at all to whatever your message is like
2:07:48
at all. Like you said, Brett, they'd be
2:07:50
better off going to the institutions of power where the
2:07:54
people inside could theoretically at least do
2:07:58
something about their message. Yeah, make it uncomfortable.
2:08:01
For Joe Biden now, the chances of him sleeping through 90% of
2:08:06
it is a pretty high probability. But at least the people who
2:08:10
actually have control or have the ability to do something when
2:08:13
they're not in a comatose state or in dementia like episode.
2:08:17
Those are the people you want to aggravate.
2:08:21
Exactly. Well, I think this is a perfect
2:08:26
point to end the stream. But before I do, we got some
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advertising to do ladies and germs.
2:08:34
So I'm going to go ahead and activate the screen share
2:08:37
because that's what friends do and we'll go to this boom.
2:08:44
So first up, if you are curious to see more of his content, I
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got Dark Moon 75's quarter channel right there on the
2:08:52
screen. Hopefully you're seeing that and
2:08:57
he does a lot of content. Or, as he describes himself in
2:09:00
his banner, a variety channel. Gaming live streams, topical
2:09:04
videos. Sometimes it's religion,
2:09:06
sometimes it's tech stuff, sometimes it's just plain old
2:09:09
video games. You never know.
2:09:11
So if you're interested in Dark Moon's content after seeing him
2:09:15
on this show, that's where you can find his videos.
2:09:18
Looks pretty good, man. Looks.
2:09:20
Very professional dark moon. I would suggest moving the logo
2:09:24
over a little bit so your own avatar doesn't cover it up.
2:09:27
But I get what it says. It's it's a very, very
2:09:30
professional looking page. Very good.
2:09:34
Very much so. Most of them, they yeah.
2:09:39
And then of course, as far as Brett and myself go, you can
2:09:43
find us at a lot of the same places.
2:09:45
For example, here's my Rumble channel, which you're probably
2:09:48
watching the stream on. Anyway, here's Brett's Rumble
2:09:51
channel. He actually got a sub while we
2:09:53
were doing the stream, so yay. And we both are getting popular,
2:09:59
am I? I wish we were getting.
2:10:01
Popular, but we are growing with some steady rate even if it's
2:10:05
not as good as it could be. But we're definitely growing
2:10:09
better here than on YouTube. So that's for sure.
2:10:14
And then of course, I'm on X and so is Brett, which we're both
2:10:18
streaming to our X accounts. And then of course, there's my
2:10:21
quarter channel, which is the best place to find me because
2:10:24
it's the video site that I started, that I run, that I
2:10:27
control. And that real freedom lives in
2:10:30
as far as the purest sense of free speech goes.
2:10:33
And then of course, Brett has a quarter channel too, surprise,
2:10:37
surprise. It's almost like he's a smart
2:10:39
guy that knows where to pitch his tent, but the.
2:10:43
Best place? To watch all the Brett's stuff,
2:10:46
because he puts all of his old and new stuff on it, as well as
2:10:50
some other people's stuff, is his Spotify accounts, where you
2:10:54
can see all of his videos, all of his shows, and where he
2:10:59
reposts some of the shows he does with me and some of the
2:11:02
stuff he's done with other people.
2:11:04
What you can see right here on the screen.
2:11:07
He's also been doing a bit of preservation of some other
2:11:10
apologists, which is a good way to make sure their content's
2:11:14
still on the Internet when they eventually get censored from big
2:11:17
tech. Let's keep in mind.
2:11:19
Ladies and gentlemen, some of these folks, I think their
2:11:22
messages and some of their ideas are good, but some of them I do
2:11:26
not enjoy personally, just to point that out.
2:11:30
But I feel like their message should be preserved.
2:11:33
So there's a lot of. Places you.
2:11:35
Can find me. There's a lot of places you can
2:11:37
find Brett. You know where to find Dark Moon
2:11:40
75. And of course if you're watching
2:11:45
this on Brett's YouTube channel, you know where to find all of us
2:11:49
as far as the non YouTube places go.
2:11:51
And if you're watching either through Brett's streams on
2:11:55
Rumble and X and you're interested in me, you know where
2:11:58
you can find me. Same with me.
2:12:00
If you're watching me on Rumble and X, you can find Brett at the
2:12:04
same places too. So that's where we all are and
2:12:08
those are the best places to find us.
2:12:10
And with that, it has been a great stream once again and I
2:12:14
look forward to seeing you guys next week when we return to the
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GOD TV Radio Podcast. Thanks for watching everyone.
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Peace None.