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Steve Price | 20 February · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Good evening, Welcome to Friday Nights.
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Speaker 2: Steve Price with you, and as you've just seen some
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Speaker 2: big changes right here on Sky, we'll have a look
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Speaker 2: at some exciting changes shortly and a rare moment today
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Speaker 2: with all the Sky hosts in one place at the
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Speaker 2: same time. Take it from me, this doesn't happen ever,
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Speaker 2: and there was not one fight in the room. Coming
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Speaker 2: up this Friday Night will take you to the UK
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Speaker 2: where it's early Friday morning and the arrest of the
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Speaker 2: brother of King Charles Andrew mount Patten Windsor by UK police,
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Speaker 2: an unprecedented move against a royal figure. No one in
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Speaker 2: our lifetime has ever seen anything like it. The former
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Speaker 2: prince was held overnight. We'll have an update for you shortly.
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Speaker 2: And a week of disturbing revelations around Victoria's big build projects,
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Speaker 2: including allegations incredible allegations of biking involvement and estimated fifteen
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Speaker 2: billion dollars of routing of taxpayer's money. It has rattled
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Speaker 2: the Premier to Cinderellen, I believe and should bring her
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Speaker 2: down her leadership. We'll talk to the opposition's Evan Mulholland
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Speaker 2: shortly and still on the mess that is Victoria. Embarrassingly,
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Speaker 2: it has lost a major sporting event in the International
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Speaker 2: Moto GP. It's going to Adelaide next year to run
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Speaker 2: on a street circuit. And Royal has covered every philip
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Speaker 2: Island race for years and he'll join us as well.
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Speaker 2: Plus more extraordinary polls for Pauline Hanson and One Nation.
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Speaker 2: One in South Australia shows the Liberals will be wiped
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Speaker 2: out at the upcoming state election in March, and one
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Speaker 2: in Victoria says One Nation is even out poll in
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Speaker 2: the Labor Party. We'll talk to Friday regular Campbell Newman
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Speaker 2: about those poles. First up, though, to the state of
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Speaker 2: Victoria and the extraordinary claims of corruption surrounding that state's
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Speaker 2: eye watering and super expensive big bill projects, including the
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Speaker 2: hated Suburban rail Loop, but also including the little used
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Speaker 2: so far Westgate Tunnel, the Northwest Link and other projects
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Speaker 2: respect did sc Jeffrey Watson set the ball rolling with
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Speaker 2: his role in a CFMEU Royal commission in Queensland where
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Speaker 2: he outlaid evidence construction on those sites had become hubs
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Speaker 2: for drug trafficking, systemic corruption, and claims of sexual exploitation,
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Speaker 2: including strippers putting on high paid performances in worksheads and
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Speaker 2: the most explosive claim of all that up to fifteen
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Speaker 2: billion and maybe more had been raughted. Well, this has
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Speaker 2: well and truly rocked an already hugely unpopular Victorian government.
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Speaker 2: I'll show you an angry, frustrated and i think rattled
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Speaker 2: Premier de Cinder Allen at a media conference yesterday shortly.
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Speaker 2: It was her latest of three appearances this week where
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Speaker 2: she trotted out the tactic she learned from her mentor
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews. More on him as well tonight. But first,
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Speaker 2: in another example of how panicked this dysfunctional mob there
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Speaker 2: have become, here was Police Minister Anthony Carbines trying to
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Speaker 2: trash the reputation of mister Watson.
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Speaker 3: Lot of florid ramblings from mister Watson, but not a
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Speaker 3: lot of evidence. It might be good for a quote,
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Speaker 3: but he's not much good when it comes to coming
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Speaker 3: up with some facts. So when his florid ramblings become
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Speaker 3: facts that can be tested in court, all well and good.
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Speaker 2: Seriously, a Minister of the Crown calling a respected senior
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Speaker 2: lawyer working on a corruption Royal commission a headline chaser
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Speaker 2: and called his findings florid ramblings.
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Speaker 1: Now, I'll leave it to.
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Speaker 2: Mister Watson to make what he will of that last comment,
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Speaker 2: and he doesn't need I would warn mister Carbines about this.
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Speaker 2: Watson doesn't need to look very far to find some
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Speaker 2: experience legal advice. I mean, we even had the state's
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Speaker 2: Attorney General, Sonya killed Kenny this week, branding mister Watson
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Speaker 2: as reckless, and she even called into question his credibility.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how rattled are these useless labor MPs who
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Speaker 2: presided over the economic collapse of the great state of Victoria.
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Speaker 2: And what has them so spooped about having their own
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Speaker 2: royal commission? Well, I'll tell you they're petrified of what
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Speaker 2: would be found, Petrified of having Andrews and Allan and
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Speaker 2: others in the dock in a proper in cry into
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Speaker 2: what is possibly the greatest corruption of a government in
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Speaker 2: Australia's history. So rattled as Premier Allen that she refused
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Speaker 2: to continue with a media conference yesterday when a reporter
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Speaker 2: from Channel ten alleged that she looked disinterested.
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Speaker 4: Have a look the same to Jeffrey Watson.
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Speaker 5: They don't see they can report it because they have
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Speaker 5: already uprooted their lives for fear of people that are
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Speaker 5: no longer ready say that if you're care consulting thecy
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Speaker 5: if that, if you look as interested, I'll make two
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Speaker 5: points on this And can I ask that you retract
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Speaker 5: that last point?
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Speaker 6: I know you're not.
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Speaker 5: Could I ask that you retract that last comment for
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Speaker 5: this press conference to continue us, that you retract that
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Speaker 5: last observation.
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Speaker 2: Look, by any normal measure to center, Allen should be finished.
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Speaker 2: She certainly forgot there her lesson from Dan Andrews, which
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Speaker 2: he taught her during his COVID hostage taking in Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: When confronted by awkward questions what did he do well?
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Speaker 2: He just plowed on the fact Premier Allen still has
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Speaker 2: a job. A job is astounding when you consider two
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Speaker 2: New South Wales premiers lost. There's one for not declaring
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Speaker 2: a bottle of wine Grange to be sure, but it
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Speaker 2: was a bottle of wine, and the other for having
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Speaker 2: an inappropriate connection to a fellow MP. But this is
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Speaker 2: Victoria and you know what the claimed fifteen billion, or
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Speaker 2: to put it another way, fifteen thousand million dollars could
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Speaker 2: be light on. We may never know my prediction, Labour
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Speaker 2: will have to dump the Premiere or leave her hanging
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Speaker 2: in the hope that she loses her seat in Bendigo
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Speaker 2: at the November election. They'll then hope they scrape back in.
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Speaker 2: And just before I leave this dysfunctional mob of state
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Speaker 2: wrecking politicians, have a look at the photo on the screen.
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Speaker 2: At the top right is Daniel Andrews, the former Premier
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Speaker 2: of Victoria. He was in China last year and who's
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Speaker 2: at the bottom left Vladimir pot and next to him
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Speaker 2: China's dictator Jijing Ping. And The Herald Sun reported yesterday
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Speaker 2: that when Daniel Andrews got back from that little trip
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Speaker 2: where he hung out with dictators, according to the release
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Speaker 2: of ministerial diaries in the last few days, he went
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Speaker 2: and saw the Premier. You can only wonder at that conversation. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I want to go to a spray from a Victorian
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Speaker 2: MP in State Parliament this week calling out the government
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Speaker 2: for it's in action around the lack of funding for
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Speaker 2: essential services.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
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Speaker 7: There is no pride in our state under this guver.
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Speaker 7: Soon does he get off at the airport onto the
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Speaker 7: taller than onto the ring road. You are greeted by graffiti,
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Speaker 7: you are greeted by weeds, you are greeted by overgrown grass,
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Speaker 7: completely different to the experience you get off in Sydney.
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Speaker 6: Because this government can't manage money.
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Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent correct that Victorian MP is Shadow
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Speaker 2: Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Alticultural Affairs. Evan Mulholland, thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining us very much on this historical not on sky. Look,
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Speaker 2: I agree with you entirely. I'm in Sydney tonight and
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Speaker 2: the contrast is stuck. You get to Sydney Airport, it's bright,
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Speaker 2: it's clean, it's modern. Taxis out the front, not ubers.
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Speaker 2: Then you have tap on, tap off public transport. The contrast, Jevan,
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Speaker 2: have never been more obvious.
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Speaker 7: It is, and I think it goes to show the
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Speaker 7: malays we're in in this state.
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Speaker 6: We need to restore pride in our state.
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Speaker 7: I think Victorians are sick and tired of traveling into
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Speaker 7: state and being ashamed of being a Victorian. I love
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Speaker 7: this state, Steve, and I know you do as well,
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Speaker 7: and we all want to be proud to be a
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Speaker 7: Victorian again. To get out of this rut, to get
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Speaker 7: out of this malaise. But unfortunately, when you're heading towards
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Speaker 7: one hundred and ninety billion dollars of debt, we're going
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Speaker 7: to be paying twenty five million dollars a day just
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Speaker 7: to service the interest on that debt. Our essential services
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Speaker 7: get left behind. Our weeds on our median strips are overgrown,
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Speaker 7: graffiti everywhere, dumped rubbish everywhere, because this government can't manage money,
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Speaker 7: so it cuts back on the essential services, and you
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Speaker 7: see it on our streets. The only way, the only
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Speaker 7: difference between a state government road and a council road
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Speaker 7: is you can tell the difference because the state government
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Speaker 7: road is completely overgrown.
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Speaker 1: And full of potholes.
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Speaker 2: I mean even I think the way you have described
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Speaker 2: it is perfect because the general public like to have
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Speaker 2: things put into simple terms for them. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: the old broken windows thing, isn't it. Letting all that
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Speaker 2: stuff go, and what follows are things like the crime
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Speaker 2: crisis we have unfolding before us. I mean, you've got
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Speaker 2: to start if you can't afford to mow a bloody
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Speaker 2: medium strip on a highway.
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Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, well, you're quite right. We've got less
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Speaker 6: police now than we do.
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Speaker 7: When Jacinta took over as premier during a crime crisis.
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Speaker 7: I've got so many stations over fifty with reduced hours
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Speaker 7: because the government can't manage money. It can't fund our
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Speaker 7: essential services, like our police and like our hospital system
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Speaker 7: where our government is forcing hospitals to merge by stealth.
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Speaker 7: You can't manage If you can't manage the budget, you
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Speaker 7: can't manage the basic services. And we need to get
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Speaker 7: control of the budget so that we can deliver those
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Speaker 7: essential services and so that we can restore pride in
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Speaker 7: our state again.
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Speaker 2: Just before we get into the big build, I want
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Speaker 2: to get your views on all of that and all
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Speaker 2: those allegations of corruption that I mentioned at the top
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Speaker 2: of the show. Revelations this week that Daniel Andrews, the
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Speaker 2: former premier, had a meeting with Jacinda Allen not that
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Speaker 2: long after he returned from China, and I showed that
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Speaker 2: photograph that I mean, he should be ashamed of standing
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Speaker 2: in that photograph. Should we the public and you the opposition,
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Speaker 2: know what Daniel Andrews and Jacinda Allen talked about.
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Speaker 7: Well, let's not forget for all those years to Ciner
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Speaker 7: Allen was Daniel Andrews apprentice. He forced her into the
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Speaker 7: deputy position. She was a senior minister in his government
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Speaker 7: and then he forced her into the position of premier.
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Speaker 7: He's been side by side, which is into the whole
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Speaker 7: way through, from the CFMU allegations allowing them to take
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Speaker 7: over the construction industry to the conglat games to the
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Speaker 7: suburban rail loop. He's had a hand in everything that
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Speaker 7: she's had a hand in. So when Daniel Andrew's you know,
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Speaker 7: he's post politics now, but he's entire business model now
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Speaker 7: is to make money off his relationships. So of course
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Speaker 7: he's going to speak to the premier, speak to someone
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Speaker 7: that he is close with and make sure that he's
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Speaker 7: still pulling the strings in the background.
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Speaker 2: Even I've been covering politics in Victoria for more years
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Speaker 2: than ike to remember this government it's not only the
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Speaker 2: worst ever. I mean, we thought that Joan Kerner government
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Speaker 2: was bad. This mob play him on a break. I
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Speaker 2: mean I get a sense though, and I'm interested in
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Speaker 2: your view on this. At the Premier Ja Cindra Allen,
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Speaker 2: she's starting to feel the pressure over that CFMEU issue.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's rebuking reporters. She won't make any changes
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Speaker 2: to iback. Do you think she's rattled.
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Speaker 7: Well, Steve, this is the biggest corruption scandal in our
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Speaker 7: state's history. It's cost our state fifteen billion dollars and
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Speaker 7: that was a conservative estimate by preminent Jeffrey Watson, sc
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Speaker 7: who's been outrageously attacked by this government evidence before a
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Speaker 7: royal commission.
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Speaker 6: Fifteen billion dollars is a lot of money.
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Speaker 7: It's one hundred and thirty thousand nurses, teachers and coppers
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Speaker 7: and Dissenter Allen was at the start of the week
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Speaker 7: showing around an IBACK letter that she did something about it,
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Speaker 7: and she referred matters to IBACK back in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 7: only for IBACK to release an extraordinary public statement. They
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Speaker 7: responded to disinter Allan less than a month later, saying
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Speaker 7: that they did not have the powers to investigate and
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Speaker 7: therefore wouldn't.
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Speaker 6: What did di Cinter Allen do with that letter? She
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Speaker 6: sat on it and said nothing.
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Speaker 7: Instead of giving Iback follow the money powers that would
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Speaker 7: allow them to investigate, she did nothing. She hasn't called
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Speaker 7: a royal commission, and a royal commission is desperately needed.
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Speaker 7: We've called for the Premier to call a royal commission.
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Speaker 7: But if she doesn't we will call a Royal commission
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Speaker 7: if we're elected at the end of this year, because
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Speaker 7: while disinter Allen covers it up, we're going to clean
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Speaker 7: it up.
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Speaker 2: And you'll give You'll give eeback the powers it needs.
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Speaker 2: It needs, as I understand it, it needs to be
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Speaker 2: able to chase the money, follow the money. They need
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Speaker 2: extra powers and they need extra resources, don't they Absolutely
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Speaker 2: Iback needs the follow the money powers to be able
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Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of every single dollar that
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Speaker 2: has been spent. We've had money going to bikies, gangsters,
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Speaker 2: convicted criminals, convicted murderers, strippers, all sorts of drug deals
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Speaker 2: and unsavory behavior happening on corruption construction sites. We've had
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Speaker 2: good businesses kicked off CFMU sites just because they didn't
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Speaker 2: have some sort of criminal connection. You've had businesses gone
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Speaker 2: up against the wall that can't get on government construction
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Speaker 2: sites just into Allen was warned many times about this
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Speaker 2: prior to twenty twenty four. Many ministers, including Sonya Kilkenny,
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Speaker 2: warned about this and did nothing with it.
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Speaker 7: We need to get to the bottom of this. The
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Speaker 7: only way to get to the bottom of this and
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Speaker 7: hold these ministers and Premier accountable is a Royal commission.
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Speaker 7: For too long there has been too much corruption going
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Speaker 7: on construction sites. It's no wonder why over the life
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Speaker 7: of this government, construction costs have blown out by fifty
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Speaker 7: billion dollars and fifteen billion of that is said to
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Speaker 7: have gone towards the criminal underworld and gangsters and bikies.
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Speaker 6: It's a disgrace.
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Speaker 1: It is a disgrace.
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Speaker 2: now to the massive global story that broke overnight in
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Speaker 2: has talked to the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and asked
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Speaker 2: him to reflect on the arrest.
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Speaker 1: Quite a fall.
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Speaker 12: From grace, isn't it. These are very serious allegations. No
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Speaker 12: one is above the law. And Andrew mount Batton windsor
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Speaker 12: is he's now known, will have to face all of
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Speaker 12: the consequences of whatever it is that is being investigated.
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Speaker 2: That full interview with the PM you're about to see
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Speaker 2: on Sunday agenda. Joining me now to give us an
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Speaker 2: update on the latest. Correspondent Daisy McAndrew joins, as Daisy,
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Speaker 2: we woke up in Australia this morning and I don't
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Speaker 2: think any of us could actually believe it. The reaction
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Speaker 2: where you are must have been even more breathless. You
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Speaker 2: could not believe that this would happen.
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Speaker 4: I think that's absolutely fair to say.
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Speaker 14: I mean, no matter where you were when you heard
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Speaker 14: the news yesterday here in the UK, jaws were dropped,
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Speaker 14: gobs were smacks.
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Speaker 4: It was quite a moment and I know that.
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Speaker 14: Newsrooms, particularly around London yesterday, but no news editors were
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Speaker 14: scratching their heads and thinking can this really have happened?
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Speaker 4: Is as you're saying, the biggest fall from grace for
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Speaker 4: a royal for nearly four hundred years.
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Speaker 14: The last royal who was arrested was Charles the first
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Speaker 14: and he ended up being beheaded.
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Speaker 2: I tell you who needs a praize. I was talking
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Speaker 2: to my colleagues at Skye today we were all together
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Speaker 2: for a function here. I said, who ever got that
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Speaker 2: photograph of Andrew in the back of that range rover.
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Speaker 2: I think it was needs to get a bonus because
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Speaker 2: to have that picture with the look on his face
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Speaker 2: was just priceless.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, there's sometimes and I'm sure you can remember a
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Speaker 14: few of these instances where you see a photograph and
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Speaker 14: you think that is the iconic image that will be
20:38
Speaker 14: remembered for generations to come. And I'm afraid that photograph
20:41
Speaker 14: is the one. My understanding is it was taken by
20:43
Speaker 14: an agency photographer working for Reuters.
20:46
Speaker 4: The minute it drops.
20:47
Speaker 14: I mean I was with senior BBC News executives who
20:50
Speaker 14: were saying, we think we've got a picture of him
20:52
Speaker 14: in the car and we were all waiting for the
20:53
Speaker 14: picture to come. I was on Sky News UK last
20:58
Speaker 14: night until at midnight doing reviewing this mornings because it's
21:02
Speaker 14: Friday morning here papers and it was on the front
21:05
Speaker 14: of every single newspaper, broadsheet or tabloid. So yes, whoever
21:10
Speaker 14: he or she is that photographer, I think will be
21:14
Speaker 14: getting a lot of money from that photograph.
21:16
Speaker 2: And the sub editor who wrote the front page headline
21:18
Speaker 2: on the Sun now he's sweating probably needs a pay
21:21
Speaker 2: rise as well.
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, my WhatsApp groups were going crazy yesterday afternoon with oh,
21:26
Speaker 14: I bet he's sweating now, because of course, as you
21:28
Speaker 14: will remember, maybe not all viewers will. In that infamous
21:33
Speaker 14: interview that he did with Newsnight BBC's Newsnight, Prince Andrews
21:36
Speaker 14: said that it couldn't have been him in the nightclub
21:38
Speaker 14: with Virginia Giufrey because she said that he was sweaty
21:41
Speaker 14: and he's incapable of sweat. So obviously a lot of
21:44
Speaker 14: people saying I bet you he was sweating yesterday, and
21:46
Speaker 14: that police cell so reported.
21:48
Speaker 2: King Charles had not been brief no warning that his
21:51
Speaker 2: brother was about to be taken into custody. I mean
21:55
Speaker 2: that to me shows that British justice working how it
21:58
Speaker 2: should work.
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Speaker 14: It's a lot of people across the pond in the
22:02
Speaker 14: United States are saying, why is it that it looks
22:04
Speaker 14: like British justice is working whereas American justice isn't Because
22:07
Speaker 14: no senior American politician or anyone else of note seems
22:12
Speaker 14: to have felt the long arm of the law, whereas
22:15
Speaker 14: the King's younger brother, eighth in line to the throne
22:19
Speaker 14: has And you're absolutely right to say that the King
22:21
Speaker 14: and Buckingham Palace had no idea that this was going
22:24
Speaker 14: to be happening. In fact, the eight police officers who
22:28
Speaker 14: were sent from Thames Valley near London up to Norfolk
22:32
Speaker 14: on the northeast of the country, they did a three
22:35
Speaker 14: hour trip going up there to arrest. They were only
22:38
Speaker 14: told en route to the Sandringham estate who it was
22:42
Speaker 14: that they were going to meet and why, and the
22:44
Speaker 14: fact that they were going to be arresting the King's brother.
22:48
Speaker 4: So secret was this operation.
22:50
Speaker 14: The Home Secretary of Cooper was given the tip off
22:55
Speaker 14: early yesterday morning.
22:57
Speaker 4: But that's simply I mean, that is sort of proto.
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Speaker 14: But only she was aware of what was happening yesterday,
23:03
Speaker 14: as you said, the King wasn't and really the authorities
23:06
Speaker 14: and the police have to do all this. By the book,
23:08
Speaker 14: there will be so much inspection of this procedure and
23:14
Speaker 14: whether or not any special treatment was given to the
23:17
Speaker 14: royal family or to Andrew himself, that they really have
23:20
Speaker 14: to be squeaky clean on this.
23:22
Speaker 2: And Daisie, we should read to write. This arrest of
23:24
Speaker 2: these charges when they come, is around his role as
23:28
Speaker 2: a trade ambassador. This has got nothing to do with
23:30
Speaker 2: the Epstein files, has it.
23:33
Speaker 1: That's right.
23:33
Speaker 14: I mean, this has all come out of those millions
23:36
Speaker 14: and millions of documents and files that have come out
23:39
Speaker 14: of the Epstein files showing quite how entangled Prince Andrew
23:44
Speaker 14: was with Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that although he
23:47
Speaker 14: said that he'd cut off his friendship and his relationship
23:50
Speaker 14: with Epstein in about twenty ninety ten.
23:53
Speaker 4: That was clearly not the case.
23:54
Speaker 14: And you're quite right to say this is nothing to
23:56
Speaker 14: do with the accusations of sexual misconduct or sexual abuse
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Speaker 14: that Virginia Dufrey has did allege that Andrew was involved in.
24:07
Speaker 14: But this has to do with his role as a
24:09
Speaker 14: trade envoy, which is a government appointed representative to try
24:13
Speaker 14: to ease various business relationships between the government and different countries.
24:20
Speaker 14: Of course, the allegation is he was doing more than that.
24:23
Speaker 14: He was feathering his own nest, possibly by tipping off
24:27
Speaker 14: Epstein as to confidential government.
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Speaker 4: Behind the scenes documents. That's the allegation. It's that he.
24:35
Speaker 14: Misused his public position that he was meant to be
24:39
Speaker 14: working on behalf of the government, and he misused it willingness.
24:42
Speaker 14: It's a very difficult law to it's a very difficult
24:47
Speaker 14: crime to prove.
24:48
Speaker 4: But the fact that it's got to the arrest stage.
24:51
Speaker 4: He hasn't been charged yet, potentially, but the fact that.
24:54
Speaker 14: It's even got to the arrest sage does show that
24:57
Speaker 14: the police think there is some sort of case to answer.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Daisy, thank you very much for the update. I
25:03
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much. I now want to turn to
25:05
Speaker 2: warnings from the new coalition defense spokesman Now, James Patterson's
25:08
Speaker 2: are very impressive in p I think he's accused the
25:11
Speaker 2: of a andezy government of hollowing out current military capability
25:15
Speaker 2: so that the government can fund orcus the submarine program.
25:19
Speaker 2: He's worn quote peacetime culture is leaving Australia unprepared, Rising
25:24
Speaker 2: threads from China.
25:24
Speaker 1: We know all about that.
25:25
Speaker 2: Joining us our Friday Night Regular Queensland from a Queensland
25:28
Speaker 2: Liberal Premier and skyne Is regular Campbell Newman Campbell. How
25:33
Speaker 2: are you can I go to be with you? Did
25:37
Speaker 2: you ever think you would see a picture of a
25:39
Speaker 2: royal prince in the back of a car being arrested
25:41
Speaker 2: by London Bobbers.
25:43
Speaker 1: Oh shit.
25:45
Speaker 15: Before I went to bed last night, I saw it
25:47
Speaker 15: breaking Oasis, like absolutely gobsmacked, you know, just extraordinary times
25:53
Speaker 15: and its history in the making.
25:55
Speaker 2: Really absolutely Is Patterson right about the defense spending?
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Speaker 9: Oh?
26:00
Speaker 10: Absolutely.
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Speaker 15: And look the trouble is, look, we've committed to this
26:04
Speaker 15: very important subs project, very expensive, but it can't be
26:08
Speaker 15: allowed to sort of gobble up the rest of the
26:12
Speaker 15: necessary expenditure in defense for the Air Force and the
26:15
Speaker 15: Army those other services have very important needs as well
26:19
Speaker 15: in the defense of Australia, and it's no good. The
26:21
Speaker 15: government just says, well, we're going to do this big
26:23
Speaker 15: project and that's it.
26:26
Speaker 10: Really the moment.
26:27
Speaker 15: That Orcus was envisaged and committed to, well, there really
26:32
Speaker 15: was a frankl a need to expand the defense budget.
26:35
Speaker 15: And another thing I'd say, look, if the Albanize government
26:39
Speaker 15: don't want to sort of kawtal to President Trump sort
26:43
Speaker 15: of ex about increasing defense expenditure, but want to go
26:48
Speaker 15: their own way, then we have to be far more
26:50
Speaker 15: self right anyway, and that will mean higher expenditure. I
26:54
Speaker 15: don't mind either way, which probably I'm a proud Australia
26:58
Speaker 15: the way I'd like to be far more self reliant,
27:00
Speaker 15: but we're going to have to actually spend more money
27:02
Speaker 15: on this particular.
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Speaker 1: A lot budget.
27:04
Speaker 2: There'd be a lot of things i'd much prefer spending
27:06
Speaker 2: on defense is one of them. I can listen a
27:08
Speaker 2: number of things that I'd rather they didn't spend on.
27:10
Speaker 2: Let's talk about state politics South Australia. Now this is extraordinary.
27:14
Speaker 2: The Liberal Party and I know you will have looked
27:17
Speaker 2: at this and thought, well, yeah, I could see that coming.
27:21
Speaker 2: They risping wiped out and completely. The latest newsport shows
27:25
Speaker 2: they could fail to hold a single seat in that election,
27:29
Speaker 2: which is not far away. Peter Melanauscus has had a
27:32
Speaker 2: thumping victory. And again it's one nation. I mean, could
27:37
Speaker 2: we see the Liberal Party in my old state fall
27:41
Speaker 2: to maybe one or two or three seats. It's possible,
27:44
Speaker 2: isn't it.
27:46
Speaker 15: Well, it certainly is. And in twenty eleven the Labor
27:51
Speaker 15: Sorry twenty eleven, twenty twelve, the Labor Party came a
27:54
Speaker 15: cropper in the state of Queensland when I was up
27:58
Speaker 15: against them, So they down to set Heaven.
28:01
Speaker 10: But it could happen here.
28:02
Speaker 15: And that primary vote, I think of fourteen percent is
28:06
Speaker 15: a testament to a lack of leadership from the Liberal
28:10
Speaker 15: Party and a lack of clear policy differentiation up against
28:16
Speaker 15: a sort of a right well as much as you
28:19
Speaker 15: can in the Labor Party, a right wing Labor premier
28:22
Speaker 15: who's playing it so damn well throughout the whole time
28:26
Speaker 15: that he's been in office. So yeah, I think they've
28:29
Speaker 15: got in real strife. One of the interesting things will
28:32
Speaker 15: be to see if that One Nation vote is as
28:35
Speaker 15: high on election day, given the controversy about Senator Hansen's
28:39
Speaker 15: comments on Muslims in the last few days. I think
28:44
Speaker 15: that it will probably hold up actually at this stage.
28:47
Speaker 15: But I've always said that the biggest obstacle for One
28:50
Speaker 15: Nation is for them if they want to actually break
28:53
Speaker 15: through the next class ceiling, if I can call it,
28:55
Speaker 15: that is to be seen as not just a protest party,
28:59
Speaker 15: but a party that's at she got policy depth and
29:03
Speaker 15: could govern.
29:04
Speaker 10: So anyway, I don't.
29:06
Speaker 15: Think it's looking too good for the Libs at the
29:08
Speaker 15: South Australian election.
29:09
Speaker 2: Look, the best two politicians I reckon in the country
29:11
Speaker 2: are Malanowskis in South Australia and here at sky tonight
29:16
Speaker 2: we had a speech from New South Wales Premier Chris Mins,
29:19
Speaker 2: who was just outstanding talking about the importance of something
29:23
Speaker 2: like sky News and the new name and all of
29:25
Speaker 2: that stuff. But he's just those two are just very
29:28
Speaker 2: good performers. I want to talk about this fast train now,
29:32
Speaker 2: I reckon in my journalistic career I would have written
29:35
Speaker 2: about fast trained projects twenty five times from about nineteen
29:39
Speaker 2: seventy five onwards.
29:41
Speaker 1: We still haven't got one.
29:42
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about spending ninety billion dollars just to
29:46
Speaker 2: build a line between Sydney and Newcastle, with most of
29:49
Speaker 2: it in a tunnel that is never going to happen.
29:54
Speaker 15: Steve I sort of got my sort of real reputation
29:59
Speaker 15: for getting is done in politics through building tunnels in
30:03
Speaker 15: Queensland and having what was seen as being out there
30:06
Speaker 15: sort of vision. So I'm not a knocker naturally, but
30:09
Speaker 15: I'm also a businessman. I go, you know, why do
30:13
Speaker 15: we need a fast train between Sydney and Newcastle?
30:17
Speaker 10: Like it would be great.
30:18
Speaker 15: And by the way, to those Novocastrians this evening, I
30:21
Speaker 15: love your city story behind that. Haven't got time, but
30:26
Speaker 15: so look, it would be great. But surely it's Sydney Melbourne.
30:31
Speaker 15: I could buy a vision for that. I mean, there
30:35
Speaker 15: was a I think there was an episode of that
30:37
Speaker 15: ABC show Utopia where I talk about fast trains. It's
30:43
Speaker 15: just like I think, and why is the federal government
30:46
Speaker 15: sort of pushing it when the state government seem almost
30:50
Speaker 15: like they're not interested? I mean, you know, like, would
30:53
Speaker 15: people get back in their lane, I mean, you go
30:56
Speaker 15: back to defense.
30:56
Speaker 1: I mean, let me give you a hint.
30:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you a hint to change the discussion
31:02
Speaker 2: this week away from Isis Brides in Syria and get
31:06
Speaker 2: people to talk about a fast train that's never going
31:08
Speaker 2: to happen.
31:09
Speaker 1: That's the hint.
31:10
Speaker 10: That could be it. That could be it, mate.
31:13
Speaker 2: I mean seriously, I mean, I love fast trains. I've
31:15
Speaker 2: been to Japan more than a dozen times. I travel
31:19
Speaker 2: on them when I go to Europe. They are a
31:21
Speaker 2: brilliant piece of infrastructure and transport, but a the federal
31:24
Speaker 2: government's broke New South Wales premier has already said he's
31:27
Speaker 2: not putting any money into it. And how does the
31:31
Speaker 2: rest of Australia feel. How do all our great mates
31:33
Speaker 2: in Queensland feel that we're going to spend ninety million
31:36
Speaker 2: dollars getting a few people between Sydney and Newcastle and
31:38
Speaker 2: back again.
31:41
Speaker 10: That's all part of my thinking, mate.
31:43
Speaker 15: I just think it's just not the right project in
31:47
Speaker 15: a list of national priorities, not by any stretch of
31:50
Speaker 15: the imagination. And I think of all the coal fired
31:53
Speaker 15: power stations or indeed well nuclear power stations that the
31:58
Speaker 15: Labor Party say aren't economical and cost a whole lot
32:01
Speaker 15: of money.
32:01
Speaker 10: I mean the ninety billion.
32:03
Speaker 15: I think we could sort of, if you believe the
32:05
Speaker 15: clap trap, you could decarbonize the electricity system, have safe,
32:10
Speaker 15: reliable base load power for Australians. But you know, apparently
32:15
Speaker 15: Nikola was too expensive.
32:16
Speaker 10: Go figure.
32:17
Speaker 2: Just before you go, I want to talk about Bunnings.
32:19
Speaker 2: I know you're a Bunnings fan. I'm a Bunnings fan
32:21
Speaker 2: as well. Their CEO, Rob Scott. He has issued a
32:25
Speaker 2: warning saying Australia is that quote a tipping point due
32:28
Speaker 2: to high inflation sagging productivity, and he said the government
32:32
Speaker 2: has to work with business to solve it. He's absolutely
32:35
Speaker 2: one hundred percent correct. Do you think Jim Chalmers is listening.
32:41
Speaker 15: Well, perhaps eventually Jim Charmers will listen to all this stuff.
32:45
Speaker 15: And I'm concerned about so many business failures, and particularly
32:49
Speaker 15: when you start seeing prominent are brands like Barbecues Galore
32:54
Speaker 15: going down, going down, you.
32:56
Speaker 10: Know you really do have to worry.
32:57
Speaker 15: And the opportunity here though, Steve is that this is
33:03
Speaker 15: going back going to the Angus Tale and the Coalition
33:06
Speaker 15: to start hammering these points, and I was reassured that
33:10
Speaker 15: in the last week they actually have started to talk
33:13
Speaker 15: about things that the Liberal Party should talk about.
33:16
Speaker 10: And my only extra bit of advice.
33:17
Speaker 15: Is keep doing it, but be absolutely unequivocal. If you're
33:21
Speaker 15: asked about immigration and you're saying it's too high, set
33:25
Speaker 15: the number.
33:26
Speaker 10: Stop mucking about if you want to.
33:28
Speaker 15: If you want to talk about small business and how
33:31
Speaker 15: to unleash it and let it go, give us the specifics.
33:35
Speaker 15: If you want to talk about tax, give us the specifics.
33:38
Speaker 15: If you don't want isis Brides coming back in Australia.
33:41
Speaker 10: Say it.
33:42
Speaker 15: I mean Albany has got away this week with the
33:44
Speaker 15: most ridiculous nonsense.
33:46
Speaker 10: To saying you know your made your bed, you know
33:48
Speaker 10: you're going to live and lie it.
33:50
Speaker 15: This is the guy in twenty twenty two who was
33:52
Speaker 15: supporting them coming home, and clearly the government is supporting
33:55
Speaker 15: them coming back. So be unequivocal, b straight down the
34:00
Speaker 15: line and they will be rewarded, particularly in terms of
34:04
Speaker 15: talking about the impact on business and productivity.
34:07
Speaker 2: One thousand percent. See you next week, Campbell. Coming up,
34:10
Speaker 2: we get the latest on this stunning loss of the
34:12
Speaker 2: Moto GP gone from Phillip Island headed to the streets
34:15
Speaker 2: of Adelaide. We'll find out how that's going to work
34:18
Speaker 2: out up next. Welcome back here to our Friday night panel.
34:25
Speaker 2: In a moment I mentioned earlier that the Australian leg
34:27
Speaker 2: of the Moto GP is going to be lost to
34:29
Speaker 2: Phillip Island. The locals there are absolutely filthy. It's going
34:33
Speaker 2: to end up in Adelaide, which in the streets of Adelaide.
34:35
Speaker 2: If you can run this race on a street circuit,
34:38
Speaker 2: it would be sensational. You've got a state election coming
34:41
Speaker 2: up in South Australia. Premier Peter Mallanauskas was absolutely gloating
34:45
Speaker 2: areas these gentlemen.
34:47
Speaker 11: We'll be riding at over three hundred and forty kmeters
34:51
Speaker 11: an hour, racing on the streets of Adelaide, and six
34:55
Speaker 11: hundred plus million people are going to be watching because
34:58
Speaker 11: it'll be.
34:59
Speaker 10: Impossible to.
35:01
Speaker 11: This demands the international intention of the world on a
35:05
Speaker 11: city in a state that's going somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Tell you what, I'll be there.
35:08
Speaker 2: Ian Royal's covered every Moto GP forever down at Phillip
35:12
Speaker 2: Island joins us now thanks for your patients and joining
35:14
Speaker 2: us from Phillip Island. I said, the locals Ian are filthy.
35:18
Speaker 13: I'd be right, wouldn't I yeah, absolutely, I mean, I
35:22
Speaker 13: mean the main move down here is just shock and
35:25
Speaker 13: disbelief that what was so much a part of the
35:28
Speaker 13: community calendar and having the Meadow GP down here for
35:32
Speaker 13: thirty odd years. It's so important to their economy for
35:37
Speaker 13: everyone from restaurants, cafes, accommodation, the shops.
35:40
Speaker 1: It's just the cow.
35:42
Speaker 13: I'm hearing cows at the moment and it's on Moto
35:45
Speaker 13: GP weekend. It just goes off it's a great place
35:47
Speaker 13: to be. It's as you can see, it's a beautiful
35:50
Speaker 13: island and it's Yeah, people are astonished that all that.
35:54
Speaker 13: I think the council did an estimate that the local
35:58
Speaker 13: economy depends on a thirty million dollars, so that's they
36:02
Speaker 13: got to find thirty million dollars from somewhere now, so
36:05
Speaker 13: it's astonishing that it's happened.
36:07
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the riders. You know much more about
36:10
Speaker 2: motorcycle racing than I do. Will the riders be happy
36:13
Speaker 2: to be performing on a street circuit in Adelaide as
36:18
Speaker 2: opposed to a purpose built track at Phillip Island that
36:22
Speaker 2: is known globally by fans of Moto GP as a
36:25
Speaker 2: great track.
36:27
Speaker 13: That's right, Steve. I mean I think the main mood
36:30
Speaker 13: from riders will be sort of a great deal of caution.
36:35
Speaker 13: Moto GP until now has not had a not had
36:38
Speaker 13: a street circuit, and there's a reason for that. It's
36:41
Speaker 13: because it's generally considered more dangerous. You're putting an event
36:46
Speaker 13: into street circuit, and I'm sure by the time the
36:49
Speaker 13: time comes that Adelaide will pass all the safety criteria
36:55
Speaker 13: and you know, there'll be adequate runoff and certain things
36:58
Speaker 13: will be done, but generally the riders will be quite
37:01
Speaker 13: apprehensive about it because it's a first for them, and
37:04
Speaker 13: when you compare to what they've had here at Phillip Island,
37:07
Speaker 13: which is widely considered one of the best, if not
37:11
Speaker 13: the best track in the world because it's it sits
37:16
Speaker 13: on right on the bast coast. The riders when they
37:19
Speaker 13: put their noses down on their tanks down the gardener straight,
37:22
Speaker 13: all they see is the ocean. It's quite an extraordinary place.
37:25
Speaker 13: And then turn one they just drop down and head
37:28
Speaker 13: into the Southern Loop. So it's it's a challenging, fun
37:32
Speaker 13: interesting circuit which has been which has been loved by
37:35
Speaker 13: riders and even track riders, and you know, it's a
37:39
Speaker 13: lot of the riders will be quite apprehensive about about
37:42
Speaker 13: what the what Adelaide can do. I'm sure they'll they'll
37:44
Speaker 13: do it well, but it's and I did notice that
37:47
Speaker 13: I think in the parkland around Adelaide they might have
37:49
Speaker 13: to lose cut down fifty mature gum trees, so there
37:53
Speaker 13: might be some discussions to be had about that in
37:56
Speaker 13: the future.
37:56
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, I know Victoria Park pretty well.
37:58
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I've been to the F one when
38:00
Speaker 2: it was originally run there, and I go to the
38:03
Speaker 2: supercars when I can. I mean, part of the problem
38:05
Speaker 2: with the street circuit, correct me if I'm not right
38:07
Speaker 2: herean that you are on roads that cars are using
38:10
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, and so you're dealing with oil
38:14
Speaker 2: on the road.
38:15
Speaker 1: You're dealing with you know.
38:15
Speaker 2: If it gets wet, it's going to be extremely slippery.
38:18
Speaker 2: You've got all the issue of guttering and stuff. I mean,
38:21
Speaker 2: I hope they can pull it off. I mean, clearly
38:24
Speaker 2: the people who now own the Moto GP circus have
38:29
Speaker 2: ticked it off on this, and they're not just doing
38:31
Speaker 2: it because they've been offered more money.
38:34
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:34
Speaker 13: Well, to your first point, absolutely, it's going to be
38:37
Speaker 13: a challenge to make the stircu it as safe as
38:40
Speaker 13: possible because unlike other events like say VHS, where you
38:44
Speaker 13: can have barriers and concrete walls and all sorts of things,
38:48
Speaker 13: you can't really do that when you're racing motorbikes at
38:50
Speaker 13: up to three hundred and forty kilometers an hour. It's
38:53
Speaker 13: for obvious reasons. You know, you can't just sort of
38:55
Speaker 13: bump into each other's car and bump off a wall
38:57
Speaker 13: that's quite a different different so it's it's quite a
39:02
Speaker 13: challenging thing that as you say, there are curbs, you'll
39:05
Speaker 13: need a lot of runoff, so there's a lot of
39:09
Speaker 13: construction and design.
39:10
Speaker 1: But I'm sure Modo.
39:11
Speaker 13: GP have will have the sort of the safety you
39:15
Speaker 13: know rule.
39:16
Speaker 1: Or over the top of it.
39:17
Speaker 13: But I mean this is a this will be the
39:19
Speaker 13: out of twenty two rounds. They've decided that Australia has
39:22
Speaker 13: to have the street circuit. We don't really know why
39:25
Speaker 13: that is and as we know they said to the
39:28
Speaker 13: Victorian government we wanted at Albert Park where the Formula one.
39:31
Speaker 1: Races to be.
39:32
Speaker 13: He has been held, it will be held next month.
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Speaker 13: So it's kind of curious as to why they decided
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Speaker 13: that Australia should have a street circuit all of a
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Speaker 13: sudden because Liberty Media that the company which now owns
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Speaker 13: Moto GP took over last year or the airport, they're
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Speaker 13: they're the owners of the of Modo GP. Now they're
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Speaker 13: the company that was behind or is behind Formula ones.
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Speaker 13: You know, the way it has taken off is as
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Speaker 13: a sporting powerhouse us partly through the Drive to Survive
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Speaker 13: TV series.
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Speaker 1: So maybe this.
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Speaker 13: It's a TV play for broadcasting issues and who knows,
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Speaker 13: you know, they might even decide to have the Adelaide
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Speaker 13: race in the in the evening, might be a twilight
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Speaker 13: race too, more.
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Speaker 2: Most suitable, make it even more dangerously And good on
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Speaker 2: you mate. Thank you for waiting for us and joining
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Speaker 2: us from Philip Island. I do feel very sorry for
40:25
Speaker 2: the people on Philip Island. Let's get into our Friday panel.
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand and Research Institute of Public Affairs Mia Schlipp.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to you both. Great to be here.
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Speaker 2: What about Andrew mount Batton Windsor we wake up this
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Speaker 2: morning there's a photograph of him in the back of
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Speaker 2: a rain drobe trying to slide down on the seat
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Speaker 2: so no one can see him, and the London Sun
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Speaker 2: put you love this, Joe puts up the headline. Now
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Speaker 2: he's sweating Now I said that photographer needs a pay right.
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Speaker 1: It was the most.
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Speaker 16: Fantastic shot and completely organically. A bunch of mates of
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Speaker 16: mine are all on their way to the pub even
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Speaker 16: as we speak, and they've all taken photos of themselves
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Speaker 16: in the back of an uber like that, and so
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Speaker 16: it's one of those things. It's a sort of instant
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Speaker 16: meme if you like. And I mean Andrew mount Matten
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Speaker 16: Windsor has brought just the most incredible disgrace on the
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Speaker 16: royal family, certainly himself. I think, if anything, the other
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Speaker 16: Royals look like Paragon's a virtue in comparison to him.
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Speaker 16: But this is the fascinating thing about this price is
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Speaker 16: that there's no one coming out saying, oh, I know
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Speaker 16: he's a great philanthropist. Oh no, he always was so
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Speaker 16: generous with his time and money to charity. I know
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Speaker 16: he's a fantastic But like every single thing that's come
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Speaker 16: out just shows him as this kind of venal money
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Speaker 16: grubbing sort of pathetic person asking Epstein for favors to
41:47
Speaker 16: stay in his flat in Paris, and of course now
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Speaker 16: selling base offering up allegedly confidential UK government information to
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Speaker 16: him to I mean, this bloke is just he's clearly
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Speaker 16: a moron, but he's also more on with absolutely no
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Speaker 16: sense of any kind of public duty and any kind
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Speaker 16: of driving guide and purpose except for his own self enrichment,
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Speaker 16: it would say him. And so I think a lot
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Speaker 16: of people are very happy to see him in the
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Speaker 16: back of that car.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and his wife's not much better. No me, I
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Speaker 2: want to talk about this one nation polling. I know
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Speaker 2: how you keep an eye on all of this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Victoria's incumbent Labor party, One Nation's now leading Victorian Labor
42:33
Speaker 2: in this latest vote in a primary vote. We've got
42:35
Speaker 2: nine months to the election. Do you think that one
42:39
Speaker 2: nation can hang on to that support and how are
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Speaker 2: they now going to turn it into seats into people
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Speaker 2: in parliament?
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Speaker 9: Well, certainly, Steve, it's going to be a very interesting
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Speaker 9: thing to watch. I know, you know, at the end
42:51
Speaker 9: of the day, polling doesn't necessarily mean votes, but certainly
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Speaker 9: it does seem that one nation does have the momentum
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Speaker 9: behind them. And look, I'm a Victorian.
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Speaker 6: The sentiment there is that the.
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Speaker 9: Disdain for both major parties is pretty prevalent. I mean,
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Speaker 9: Labor is just plagued in scandal, including all of this
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Speaker 9: nonsense with the CFMAU where they've been found to basically
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Speaker 9: funnel fifteen billion dollars into the back pockets of criminals.
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Speaker 9: And then on top of that, we have a Liberal
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Speaker 9: party who hasn't really done anything about it for over
43:19
Speaker 9: a decade now, they've kind of sat there and I'm
43:21
Speaker 9: still not really sure what their policies are. So there's
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Speaker 9: plenty of very disgruntled Victorians who have said, look, I've
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Speaker 9: got a vote and it's not going to either of you.
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Speaker 1: Joe.
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Speaker 2: One of my theories here is that Labor will probably
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Speaker 2: hang on to Cina Allen. They probably don't want to
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Speaker 2: remove her nine months out for an election, but they're
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Speaker 2: looking at the same polls that we're looking at. She
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Speaker 2: quite likely will lose that seat of hers in Bendigo East,
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Speaker 2: so she doesn't win, Labor gets back with a smaller majority,
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Speaker 2: maybe two or three seats, installs Ben Carroll, who's a
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Speaker 2: bit more of a moderate, and they just go on
43:53
Speaker 2: their merry way.
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 16: Look, I'm certainly far more of a Ben Carroll fan
43:58
Speaker 16: than just into Alan fan.
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Speaker 1: I've got.
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Speaker 16: I think we should take this pole with a fairly
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Speaker 16: massive grain of salt. I don't think those numbers are credible.
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Speaker 16: Roy Morgan does not have a good history of being
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Speaker 16: accurate or reflecting. This came out the same week as
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Speaker 16: a Resolve poll found that One Nation support in Victoria
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Speaker 16: was only about eleven percent, which puts it about neck
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Speaker 16: and neck with the Greens, and that is still a
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Speaker 16: huge result for one nation, they got less than one
44:23
Speaker 16: percent at the last election. But you know, to sort
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Speaker 16: of put out a pole that says they've gone from
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Speaker 16: less than one percent of the last election suddenly now
44:30
Speaker 16: they're at twenty six and a half percent, I just
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Speaker 16: do not believe it. And that other Resolve poll did
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Speaker 16: show a huge amount of volatility. It showed that support
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Speaker 16: for the Libs and me as right a pox on
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Speaker 16: both your houses. Support for the Libs went from nearly
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Speaker 16: forty percent about thirty nine and plummeted down to thirty percent.
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Speaker 16: So that other pole is picking up on that volatility
44:52
Speaker 16: and that move away from the major parties. But you know,
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Speaker 16: more than a quarter of the vote just suddenly appearing
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Speaker 16: from one nation in what is mo the most sort
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Speaker 16: of structurally left wing and progressive state in the country,
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Speaker 16: I don't think is credible. And that's actually good news
45:07
Speaker 16: for the Liberal Party because if one nation outpolls the
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Speaker 16: Liberal Party, then a whole bunch of Liberal preferences are
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Speaker 16: going to flow back to Labor and that will get
45:15
Speaker 16: them over the line. If, however, one nation, as the
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Speaker 16: minor party is knocked out, all their votes are going
45:22
Speaker 16: to go to the coalition over the Labor Party and
45:24
Speaker 16: that will is what will deliver the coalition victory. So
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Speaker 16: you actually do not want one nation to be outpolling
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Speaker 16: the coalition in Victoria if you want to see Labor
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Speaker 16: removed from government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to see a real We're going to
45:35
Speaker 2: get a real taste for all of this when we
45:37
Speaker 2: have that in the Apian by election. Because that Sam
45:40
Speaker 2: Groth goot or sooki and decided to take his bat
45:42
Speaker 2: and ball and go home. Let's talk about the ISIS
45:45
Speaker 2: so called isis Brides. This discussion has been underway now
45:49
Speaker 2: for weeks, but the Prime Minister keeps trying me to
45:52
Speaker 2: say nothing to see here, nothing has nothing to do
45:55
Speaker 2: with us. We're not doing anything about it. But the
45:58
Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph has found some women in that camp who
46:01
Speaker 2: have talked to them on an encrypted messaging system saying
46:06
Speaker 2: that there had been an Australian government representative there.
46:09
Speaker 1: I mean, who are we going to believe here?
46:11
Speaker 9: Yeah, this story to me is really really quite astonishing.
46:13
Speaker 9: And we went through the same thing last year. Whether
46:16
Speaker 9: Albanzi government was kind of coordantating these half truths and
46:20
Speaker 9: the same thing's happening again. Albanese is playing with word
46:22
Speaker 9: salad and he thinks we can't see through it. Yes,
46:24
Speaker 9: he's saying, look, we're not going to repatriate them, but
46:27
Speaker 9: he's also not saying unequivocally we will not let them
46:30
Speaker 9: into the country. And I think that's becoming pretty apparent
46:33
Speaker 9: as time goes on, and it is appalling. This country
46:35
Speaker 9: has been through a lot in the last three months
46:38
Speaker 9: and we need a Prime Minister who very clearly gets
46:41
Speaker 9: up there and says we will not have anyone in
46:43
Speaker 9: this country who does not support the Australian way of life.
46:47
Speaker 9: I haven't heard him say that, and I think we're
46:49
Speaker 9: all getting pretty sick of the word salad and saying
46:51
Speaker 9: the half truths.
46:52
Speaker 2: Joe, I just have to talk about Barack Obama and
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Speaker 2: aliens now. He apparently, according to Donald Trump, as broken
47:01
Speaker 2: some regulations in regard to talking about classified documents. He
47:07
Speaker 2: was just joking Obama, wasn't he? I mean, was he
47:09
Speaker 2: being serious? Well, he was actually telling the truth.
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Speaker 16: It was a kind of lighthearted segment of sort of
47:13
Speaker 16: like a rapid fire round at the end of a podcast.
47:15
Speaker 16: But when he was asked, you know, are there aliens?
47:18
Speaker 16: He said yes, And that's because all the best minds
47:21
Speaker 16: in the world will tell you. I'm a huge fan
47:23
Speaker 16: of this thing called the Fermi paradox. You can look up.
47:26
Speaker 16: But statistically speaking, they're absolutely one hundred percent definitely are
47:31
Speaker 16: life forms on other planets. There is an infinite probability
47:35
Speaker 16: of that because we live in a universe that is
47:37
Speaker 16: infinity big, and so of course there is. The question is,
47:40
Speaker 16: as Enrico Fermi asked, where is everybody? Why haven't they
47:44
Speaker 16: got here yet? And the answer he deducted was that
47:48
Speaker 16: they had to develop the technology to destroy themselves before
47:51
Speaker 16: they could develop the technology to master hyperspace interstellar travel,
47:56
Speaker 16: and so basically they keep wiping themselves out before they
47:59
Speaker 16: can build a space that can travel to us. So,
48:01
Speaker 16: as Obama said, yes, there definitely are, but I haven't
48:04
Speaker 16: seen any.
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Speaker 2: I've met a few aliens in my time. Mia and Joe,
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Speaker 2: thank you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Huge news tonight. Of course here at Sky it's great.
48:13
Speaker 2: We've got to change your name and we've got these
48:15
Speaker 2: fabulous news studios, which is absolutely brilliant. So congratulations to
48:20
Speaker 2: everyone who's been involved. Has been quite the day. That's
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Speaker 2: it for me tonight. I'll be back with you next Friday,