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- 0:09The light rail transit line, long
- 0:11promised to Austinites, could soon
- 0:12clear a major hurdle.
- 0:14And if it does, it could give new
- 0:16momentum to a project that's been
- 0:17dragged down through legal and
- 0:19political resistance.
- 0:20We're gonna hear about where that
- 0:21project is headed next.
- 0:23And months after a Texas AM
- 0:25professor was fired for discussing
- 0:27gender identity in a literature
- 0:29class, transgender college students
- 0:30in Texas are working on how to
- 0:32make their voices heard.
- 0:34Some are finding solace through
- 0:35expression in their community.
- 0:37Come hear their stories.
- 0:39That's coming up on today's show.
- 0:40The Austin Signal is a production of
- 0:42K U T News, hosted by Jerry
- 0:45Quijano.
- 0:46Plus, our sister station KUTX
- 0:48is highlighting some of their
- 0:49favorite Austin songs of 2025.
- 0:51Stay tuned for that, and a little
- 0:53bit of Austin music history.
- 0:55That's next on Austin Signal.
- 1:07Howdy out there, this is
- 1:09Austin Signal.
- 1:10Thank you for tuning in.
- 1:11We are glad to be part of your day.
- 1:14It is Thursday, December 11th.
- 1:16We're officially two weeks out from
- 1:18the Christmas holiday, and Austin
- 1:19Bergstrom International Airport's
- 1:21already got a brand new toy,
- 1:23a mint baggage handling
- 1:25system. Airport officials say the
- 1:27upgraded system can process 4,000
- 1:29outbound bags an hour.
- 1:31That's about more than twice
- 1:33as much as the old system.
- 1:34And officials say this change could
- 1:36cut down on flight delays, which
- 1:38could be clutch ahead of the holiday
- 1:40rush. Speaking of which, more
- 1:42than 9 million Texans are expected
- 1:44to travel for the holidays later
- 1:45this month. That's according to
- 1:46Triple A Texas.
- 1:48About 93% of those commuters
- 1:50are expected to go by car.
- 1:52Triple A says gas prices
- 1:54are lower this year compared to last
- 1:56holiday season.
- 1:57Let's stay on the topic of
- 1:59transportation and get right
- 2:01into today's show.
- 2:03Austin's long promised light row
- 2:05line is about to clear a major
- 2:07bureaucratic hurdle within days,
- 2:09giving new momentum to a project
- 2:10that has pushed through years of
- 2:12political and legal resistance.
- 2:14KUT's transportation reporter Nathan
- 2:16Bernier sat down with morning
- 2:18edition host Jennifer Stayton to
- 2:20talk about this new development.
- 2:22Nathan starts off the conversation.
- 2:24So, federal transportation officials
- 2:26are expected to issue a
- 2:28final environmental ruling
- 2:30by the end of the month.
- 2:31Basically, it's called a final
- 2:33environmental impact statement and
- 2:35record of decision in government
- 2:37speak. And it's, you know, it's a
- 2:38sign that Washington still views
- 2:40Austin's light rail plan as
- 2:42viable after years
- 2:45of uncertainty.
- 2:46This decision, it's not going
- 2:48to settle the project's fate.
- 2:50It's not going to lock in the
- 2:52billions of federal dollars
- 2:54that Austin is depending upon
- 2:56to build this 9.8 mile
- 2:58light rail system.
- 2:59Those grants would come only
- 3:02after the Austin Transit
- 3:04Partnership nails down
- 3:06the most final, most
- 3:07detailed designs of the
- 3:09system, and the Federal Transit
- 3:11Administration has a chance to
- 3:13scrutinize those.
- 3:14And as you pointed out, you know,
- 3:15there are major challenges to this
- 3:16project still.
- 3:18But this sprawling document,
- 3:20I mean thousands of pages,
- 3:22this would move Austin's
- 3:25light rail line into its most
- 3:27consequential phase since
- 3:29the 2020 election, when voters
- 3:30approved the largest ever
- 3:32transit expansion by authorizing
- 3:34a similarly historic property
- 3:37tax increase.
- 3:38So this sounds like a a big step,
- 3:40Nathan. So once the Austin
- 3:42Transit Partnership gets this
- 3:44federal environmental clearance,
- 3:46what can they do next?
- 3:49At a high level, they there are
- 3:51three major contracts they can
- 3:52issue. And these are big
- 3:55high dollar contracts.
- 3:57One is for building the actual
- 3:59light rail line, the 9.8
- 4:02mile three-pronged system.
- 4:04Another is for designing and
- 4:06building the operations and
- 4:07maintenance facility,
- 4:1062-acre facility,
- 4:12big area right across Ben
- 4:14White Boulevard from Austin Bergsham
- 4:16International Airport.
- 4:17And then the third contract is
- 4:19for acquiring the light rail
- 4:21vehicles that would run on this
- 4:23system and would be arriving
- 4:25as often as every five minutes in
- 4:27the city's core, assuming this all
- 4:29goes according to plan and is up and
- 4:30running by 2033.
- 4:33The Austin Transit Partnership, once
- 4:34it gets environmental clearance, can
- 4:36also, and you know, this happened
- 4:37with the text.i35 project,
- 4:39once they get federal clearance,
- 4:40they can begin using eminent
- 4:42domain to acquire property.
- 4:44And that would be dozens of
- 4:46businesses and up to three single
- 4:48family homes that they would
- 4:50purchase and so that
- 4:52they can use that property
- 4:53integrated into the rail
- 4:55line. Because this project is
- 4:57is not just about light rail, it
- 4:58also includes complete
- 5:00reconstruction of city streets,
- 5:02utility relocation, a new bridge
- 5:04over Lady Bird Lake,
- 5:06three parking rides.
- 5:08And so it has a very high
- 5:10cost per mile, this project
- 5:12relative to other light rail
- 5:14projects under federal review, it's
- 5:16among the most expensive, but it
- 5:17also includes.
- 5:19All this other stuff.
- 5:20So 2026, Greg Canale,
- 5:22the head of ATP, has described
- 5:24it as an inflection point.
- 5:26Once this environmental clearance
- 5:28comes through, if it comes through
- 5:29as expected, it's going to be a
- 5:31very busy year.
- 5:33Okay, Nathan, so I seem to recall
- 5:35though that there is a lawsuit
- 5:36involving Austin Transit
- 5:38Partnership. What is going on with
- 5:40the lawsuit that that could
- 5:42stop this project?
- 5:43Right. So this lawsuit began after
- 5:45the Austin Transit Partnership
- 5:47came out and said, you know what,
- 5:49instead of building the 20-mile
- 5:51light rail line like we said we were
- 5:52going to do before voters approved
- 5:54the property tax increase, turns out
- 5:56we can only afford to do about 10
- 5:57miles. That prompted a lawsuit
- 5:59where the plaintiffs accused
- 6:01essentially the city and Austin
- 6:03Transit Partnership of doing a bait
- 6:05and switch.
- 6:06However, that's been kind of tied
- 6:08up with another lawsuit.
- 6:10The Austin Transit Partnership to
- 6:11build this light rail system needs
- 6:13to borrow billions of
- 6:15dollars in bonds.
- 6:17And the Attorney General
- 6:19of Texas needs to would have to
- 6:21approve those bonds.
- 6:22So ATP went to the courts and
- 6:24said, Can you s essentially
- 6:26establish that we are entitled
- 6:28to issue these bonds so that the
- 6:29attorney general can't block us from
- 6:31doing it?
- 6:32Those two cases got wrapped
- 6:34up together. And what's happening on
- 6:35January 14th is a hearing
- 6:37before the Texas Supreme Court
- 6:39on a somewhat of a side matter,
- 6:42but it does tie back.
- 6:43And it really has to do with whether
- 6:45or not ATP can
- 6:47even file a bond validation
- 6:49suit.
- 6:50So that is definitely something
- 6:52to watch, you know, how the Texas
- 6:54Supreme Court rules.
- 6:55And of course, the Texas legislature
- 6:58in 2023 and 2025,
- 7:01Republican lawmakers tried
- 7:02to pass legislation that would
- 7:04essentially undo the financing
- 7:06for this project.
- 7:07Without getting too much into the
- 7:08details, they're arguing that.
- 7:10The city is playing a bit of a shell
- 7:12game with maintenance and operations
- 7:13tax that you're not supposed to be
- 7:15able to use that type of tax to
- 7:17borrow bonds against.
- 7:19So they tried to pass legislation to
- 7:20like hammer that into law,
- 7:22but failed both times.
- 7:23So they'll have another chance in
- 7:252027. By that point, ATP is hoping
- 7:27they're already under construction
- 7:28and it will be much harder to stop.
- 7:31Lots of moving parts here, Nathan.
- 7:33But just to remind us kind of to
- 7:34step back maybe for those who are
- 7:36new to Austin, what exactly
- 7:38is This light rail
- 7:40project.
- 7:41That is a great question, Jennifer.
- 7:43I often forget the details of
- 7:45this when I don't cover the story
- 7:46for a while, but essentially what
- 7:47we're looking at here is a 9.8
- 7:50mile light rail system with
- 7:52electric rail vehicles
- 7:54powered by overhead
- 7:56wires.
- 7:57And it's a three-pronged
- 7:59system extending north to 38th
- 8:01Street, east to Yellow
- 8:03Jacket Lane, which is sort of near
- 8:05the intersection of Riverside Drive
- 8:06and Benwite Boulevard, and south
- 8:08to Olttorf Street.
- 8:09There would be 15 stations.
- 8:12And these electric trains
- 8:14would run at street level
- 8:16every five minutes during peak hours
- 8:18in the downtown and north sections.
- 8:20And that would, you know, drop,
- 8:21they'd be less frequent during off
- 8:22hours, seven and a half minutes.
- 8:24And then the eastern and southern
- 8:25segments would have peak hour
- 8:27service every 10 minutes.
- 8:29Another feature of this would be
- 8:31tree-lined pedestrian and bike
- 8:33paths down the middle of Riverside
- 8:35Drive. I mentioned the elevated rail
- 8:37bridge over Ladybird Lake, which
- 8:38would include pedestrian and bike
- 8:40paths.
- 8:41But to make way for that bridge, ATP
- 8:43will have to tear down the Waller
- 8:44Creek boathouse and relocate it
- 8:46elsewhere. So there's many
- 8:48displacements with this project.
- 8:50There are many changes to the
- 8:51streetscape with this project.
- 8:53Making left turns would be more
- 8:54difficult if you're driving in a car
- 8:56in certain areas.
- 8:57So much to talk about, Jen, but
- 8:59this is a huge project.
- 9:00And the point is with this federal
- 9:02environmental impact statement, it
- 9:04is.
- 9:05Clearing the way for this to
- 9:07steam ahead in twenty twenty six.
- 9:09If you pardon the pun, it's electric
- 9:11rail, but you know what I mean.
- 9:12Yeah, got it, Nathan.
- 9:13And we will certainly have many more
- 9:15conversations on this in the
- 9:17coming years.
- 9:18K U T's transportation reporter,
- 9:20Nathan Bernier.
- 9:21Thanks, Nathan.
- 9:22Thank you so much, Jennifer.
- 9:23And you can keep up with more
- 9:24coverage of Austin Light Rail
- 9:27and more transportation projects
- 9:29at kut.org.
- 9:42This is Austin Signal.
- 9:43Thank you for tuning in and making
- 9:45us part of your Thursday.
- 9:48It's been close to three months
- 9:50since Texas AM fired a professor
- 9:52after she discussed gender identity
- 9:54as part of a children's literature
- 9:56class. The shock waves have
- 9:58continued to rock higher education
- 10:00across the state of Texas.
- 10:02Mandatory course reviews and changes
- 10:04to policies at universities have
- 10:06faculty warning of dire threats
- 10:08to academic freedom, especially
- 10:10when it comes to teaching hot button
- 10:12topics like transgender identity.
- 10:15For transgender students worrying
- 10:17about being silenced, Texas Standard
- 10:19intern Kaye Knoll reports that the
- 10:21solution has been to get out into
- 10:23the community and to get
- 10:25loud.
- 10:31Transgender university students are
- 10:33dealing with the scrutiny over
- 10:34courses involving gender identity
- 10:36the best way they know how.
- 10:37By partying through the panic.
- 10:39Kai Pacheco is the president of
- 10:41Transcend, a club for transgender
- 10:43students at Texas State University
- 10:45in San Marcos.
- 10:46He says he's proud of the ways the
- 10:47club serves the city's sizable trans
- 10:49community.
- 10:50I know that when I came in as a
- 10:52freshman I felt very lonely
- 10:55and still freshly new in the
- 10:57community. I wasn't sure
- 10:59if there was gonna be a place where
- 11:00I was able to explore my
- 11:02identity further and I
- 11:04just think it's amazing that I am
- 11:06now able to
- 11:08give that community to someone else.
- 11:11On this night in particular, the
- 11:13students are creating community
- 11:14behind a queer coffee house in
- 11:16downtown San Marcos.
- 11:17There are pride flags, drag queens,
- 11:19and queer student organizations
- 11:21showing their colors.
- 11:22In the background, though, there are
- 11:23concerns about what's happening on
- 11:25campus. Medusa Abercrombie
- 11:27is another transcend club leader.
- 11:29There are definitely moments
- 11:31of pretty intense hostility.
- 11:33I've gotten
- 11:35some pretty intense death stares.
- 11:38I've been lucky enough to not
- 11:40have any verbal
- 11:42sort of assaults or anything.
- 11:44And Kai Pacheco says he's already
- 11:46seen the impact of recent policy
- 11:47changes.
- 11:48I feel like the idea of
- 11:50gender in general is just
- 11:52not really talked about or advocated
- 11:55for. Like currently,
- 11:57like our advisor
- 11:59at the moment is being
- 12:02somewhat targeted because
- 12:04they teach a gender studies course
- 12:07and they're essentially
- 12:09attempting to get rid of
- 12:11Texas Standard reached out to Texas
- 12:12State University for comment about
- 12:14changes in how the school is
- 12:16treating gender-related topics, but
- 12:18officials declined to speak on the
- 12:19matter. When we instead reached out
- 12:21to the Texas State Employees Union,
- 12:23which represents some Texas State
- 12:24faculty, many of their members were
- 12:26ready to talk, but they wanted to do
- 12:28so on the condition of anonymity,
- 12:30for fear of retaliation.
- 12:31I spoke with four people who I
- 12:33verified teach at the university,
- 12:35but their names and voices will not
- 12:37be used.
- 12:37Our discussions gave some insight
- 12:39into the upcoming implementation of
- 12:41what Texas State is calling
- 12:42value-neutral instruction.
- 12:44The new guidelines go into effect
- 12:46next semester and ask teachers to
- 12:48change almost everything about their
- 12:49classes, from course descriptions to
- 12:51the structure of assignments.
- 12:53In a pamphlet instructing faculty
- 12:55on how to institute these new
- 12:56guidelines, Texas State says that
- 12:58they're designed to promote critical
- 12:59thinking and help teachers retain
- 13:01academic freedom.
- 13:02The faculty members I spoke with say
- 13:04they will do the exact opposite.
- 13:06The professors believe that this new
- 13:07so-called value-neutral initiative
- 13:09and the intensified scrutiny that
- 13:11comes with it will hurt areas of
- 13:12learning that tend to sit on the
- 13:14leading edge of theory and critical
- 13:15thinking, like the humanities and
- 13:17social sciences.
- 13:18These subjects are where transgender
- 13:19students are more likely to see
- 13:20themselves represented.
- 13:22The faculty members I talked with
- 13:23said Texas State's guidelines on
- 13:25being neutral in all applications
- 13:27are too vague, and since crossing a
- 13:28line could mean risking suspension
- 13:30or their job, they're worried that
- 13:32they may have to avoid issues like
- 13:33transgender identity entirely.
- 13:35Fears of losing their academic
- 13:37independence are even causing some
- 13:38professors to think about leaving
- 13:40the state.
- 13:41Meanwhile, transgender students are
- 13:42left feeling unsupported, and the
- 13:44instructors see that.
- 13:45They told me they've noticed trans
- 13:47students participating less in class
- 13:48and experiencing more distress about
- 13:50their academic futures.
- 13:51Medusa Abercrombie says trans
- 13:53students would like to see a little
- 13:54more support from their university.
- 13:56Just seeing that
- 13:58Texas State is on our side.
- 14:00And, you know, it's not a this side
- 14:02or that side necessarily, but I
- 14:04just mean that they're going to,
- 14:06you know, support us, make
- 14:08sure we're safe and comfortable.
- 14:10And in some aspects
- 14:12I think they've let
- 14:14down recently in
- 14:16that in that prospect.
- 14:18But as the university has taken a
- 14:20step back, the community has stepped
- 14:21up. Even as Texas State debates
- 14:23trans people's place in curriculum,
- 14:25transcends leaders insist that they
- 14:27will never disappear.
- 14:28And we want to let people
- 14:30know that we are here for them.
- 14:33So we make sure we show up.
- 14:35And we're gonna continue to show up
- 14:37for our community as much as we can.
- 14:40Basically our goal is to
- 14:42foster a kind,
- 14:43caring community for the trans
- 14:45students at Texas State where they
- 14:47can be somewhere and feel safe
- 14:50and experience joy
- 14:52even in a place
- 14:54that is is rapidly
- 14:56growing more hostile to them.
- 14:58The faculty members aren't sure if
- 15:00or when this intense scrutiny on
- 15:02what they teach may pass, but
- 15:03they've told us that they're
- 15:04confident trans students are strong
- 15:06enough to weather it.
- 15:06Kai Pacheco is, too.
- 15:08I'd say in these struggling times,
- 15:10stay strong for yourself, stay
- 15:12strong for your community.
- 15:14If you feel as if you do not have
- 15:16a community, keep
- 15:18searching because there is one out
- 15:19there for you.
- 15:21He has faith that standing together
- 15:23and sometimes throwing a party
- 15:25will give them the power to
- 15:26overcome.
- 15:27I'm Kaye Knoll, the Texas Standard.
- 15:35We've got more Austin Signal coming
- 15:37up in one moment.
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- 15:57This is Austin Signal.
- 16:03Hi, I'm Laurie Gallardo.
- 16:05I'm a show host and producer for
- 16:07KUTX 989.
- 16:10And I'm here to talk about one
- 16:12of my favorite songs from
- 16:14this year.
- 16:15And it happens to be from an
- 16:17Austin-based artist.
- 16:18I am talking about Black Odyssey
- 16:20and the song Heartbreak.
- 16:22You can find that on his
- 16:24sensational album, Mood
- 16:27Control.
- 16:39On my podcast, SPF 1000
- 16:41Vampire Sunscreen, I had
- 16:43the opportunity to speak with Black
- 16:45Odyssey about his songwriting
- 16:47process for the album.
- 16:49And they actually used
- 16:51frequencies, not just
- 16:53certain sounds, not just certain
- 16:55textures, but frequencies.
- 16:57I was like, oh, creativity and
- 16:59science, they go great together.
- 17:00And it really is an outstanding
- 17:02experience.
- 17:03They wanted to connect emotionally
- 17:05with these different frequencies or
- 17:07or kind of, you know, hone
- 17:09in on very specific emotions,
- 17:11I should say.
- 17:12That is what fascinates me about the
- 17:14entire album because I believe it's
- 17:16working.
- 17:32I love this song so much
- 17:34because I connect to this
- 17:36feeling of longing.
- 17:38Not just on this track in
- 17:39particular, but on the entire
- 17:42album.
- 17:43With something like mood control,
- 17:45it's the thing in its entire
- 17:47picture, the entire chemistry,
- 17:50the way these stories
- 17:52are all connected throughout.
- 17:54Now, obviously you can listen to
- 17:55these as singles individually,
- 17:58but I think it's the entire
- 18:00story on mood control
- 18:02and this whole idea of using
- 18:03frequencies, that is
- 18:05always going to get my attention.
- 18:07That is always fascinating
- 18:09me every time I think about that.
- 18:31Black Odyssey is an
- 18:33extraordinary artist because
- 18:35he's not confined to just
- 18:37one genre.
- 18:39So the thing that initially
- 18:41caught my attention
- 18:43was the sound of it, the
- 18:45pop of it.
- 18:46And of course I'm I'm all about the
- 18:48beats, I'm all about the rhythm.
- 18:50That's always my my first
- 18:52impression. That that kind of
- 18:55pulls me right in right away.
- 19:02My name is Laurie Gayardon.
- 19:03I'm a show host and producer at
- 19:05KUTX 989.
- 19:07You can find out more about all
- 19:09our favorite songs from 2025
- 19:12at KUTX.org.
- 19:15This is Austin Signal.
- 19:25Thank you for listening.
- 19:27This is indeed Austin
- 19:29Signal.
- 19:30There was a mystique and a
- 19:32magic that permeated Austin's music
- 19:34scene in the late seventies and
- 19:36eighties when legends like Townes
- 19:38Van Zandt and Doug Som roamed
- 19:40the streets of an Austin that was
- 19:41much different than ours, probably
- 19:43much cooler.
- 19:44One such legend, Blaze
- 19:46Foley.
- 19:47His story comes to us from the
- 19:49Center of Texas Music History
- 19:51at Texas State.
- 19:52Here's Jason Mellard on how a
- 19:54wandering Arkansas born musician
- 19:56found a home and a place
- 19:58of refuge here in Austin.
- 20:05This week in Texas Music History, a
- 20:07singer-songwriter sets the Outhouse
- 20:09ablaze.
- 20:10In December 1988, singer-songwriter
- 20:12Blaze Foley played the Austin
- 20:14Outhouse for the last time, an
- 20:16appearance later released as a live
- 20:17album. His birthday falls this week
- 20:19too, born December 18, 1949
- 20:22in Arkansas.
- 20:23Foley grew up in San Antonio, Dallas
- 20:25Fort Worth, and around the south.
- 20:26He wandered further after dropping
- 20:28out of high school, a drifter,
- 20:29biker, roadie, and songwriter.
- 20:31His songcraft flowered after
- 20:33settling in Georgia, living in a
- 20:34treehouse with partner and muse,
- 20:36Sybil Rosin.
- 20:37Foley moved to Austin in 1977,
- 20:39the Progressive Country Boom years,
- 20:41and became a stalwart in spots like
- 20:42Emma Joe's, Spellman's Lounge,
- 20:44Hole in the Wall, and the Austin
- 20:46Outhouse.
- 20:47He grew close there to another
- 20:48Starcross songwriter, Towns
- 20:50Van Zandt.
- 20:51Their hard-luck drifter ways drew
- 20:53them together, but their lyrical
- 20:54gifts cemented the relationship.
- 20:57Blaze and Towns could plumb the
- 20:58depths of human despair in one
- 21:00stanza and pivot to absurd silliness
- 21:03in the next.
- 21:03Foley's craft shone in such
- 21:05songs as If I Could Only Fly,
- 21:07Clay Pigeons, and Election Day,
- 21:09but missed opportunities abounded.
- 21:17In 1984, he recorded an album in
- 21:19Muscle Shoals, but it didn't see the
- 21:21light of day.
- 21:21Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard
- 21:23recorded If Only I Could Fly, but it
- 21:25didn't take off like the duo's cover
- 21:26of Banzance Poncho and Lefty.
- 21:28Foley remained a hometown hero,
- 21:30though, a songwriter's songwriter,
- 21:32known for the duct tape holding his
- 21:34boots together and sleeping rough
- 21:35under pool tables.
- 21:37In February 1989, Blaze
- 21:39Foley lost his life in an
- 21:40altercation in South Austin,
- 21:42defending an elderly friend.
- 21:43Lyle Lovett, John Prime,
- 21:45Gurf Morlicks, and Lucinda Williams
- 21:48covered his songs and sung his
- 21:49praises in later years.
- 21:51Ethan Hawke told his story on screen
- 21:53in 2018, and the Live at
- 21:55the Austin Outhouse album captures
- 21:57the city's poet in his prime.
- 21:59Rough and raw and ready.
- 22:04You can hear music from the Lone
- 22:06Star State 24-7 on the Texas
- 22:08Music Experience at TMX.fm.
- 22:11Support for this week in Texas Music
- 22:12History comes from Brain Audio,
- 22:15maker of portable speakers with
- 22:16patented, built-in subwoofer
- 22:18technology to deliver deep bass
- 22:20sound with waterproof design and
- 22:22Alexa functionality.
- 22:23Holiday inspiration at
- 22:25Brainaudio.com.
- 22:28That is it for today's
- 22:30episode of Austin Signal.
- 22:32Thank you for being with us.
- 22:33You can mind you can find
- 22:35more from us at kult.org
- 22:38slash signal.
- 22:39Kristen Cabrera is our managing
- 22:41producer. Rayna Sevilla
- 22:43is our technical director.
- 22:45Austin Signal will be back
- 22:47with you tomorrow.
- 22:48I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
- 22:50We will talk to you then.