Latest / The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson / Heads in the Sand—The Unsustainable Numbers behind America’s $40 Trill Debt
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The national debt is now larger than the US economy.
- 0:03Speaker 2: It's one exceeds one hundred percent of GDP going towards
- 0:07Speaker 2: a record here. What risk does that.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Pose, Well, no one knows.
- 0:12Speaker 2: You know, how big is the danger zone and when
- 0:13Speaker 2: it's going to actually trigger some kind of a crisis.
- 0:16Speaker 2: If you look, I know you know this. If you
- 0:17Speaker 2: look at the CBO's forecast for where the debt is going,
- 0:20Speaker 2: it's absolutely headed to an unsustainable level. Ultimately, this is
- 0:24Speaker 2: the job of our fiscal policy makers, Congress and the
- 0:27Speaker 2: executive branch to come together and put us on a
- 0:30Speaker 2: on a sound fiscal trajectory, which we're not on right now.
- 0:33Speaker 2: I don't see an immediate crisis brewing, but at some
- 0:36Speaker 2: point it's going to be a problem, and ultimately our
- 0:38Speaker 2: political system needs to address it.
- 0:40Speaker 3: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with
- 0:43Speaker 3: Ben ferguson.
- 0:44Speaker 4: Good Thursday morning, nice to have you with us in
- 0:46Speaker 4: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got one well.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Scary story for you.
- 0:51Speaker 4: The US national debt has officially topped forty trillion dollars,
- 0:58Speaker 4: roughly one hundred percent of the growth domestic product, and
- 1:01Speaker 4: a level that was last seen during World War Two.
- 1:05Speaker 4: The nation's outstanding public that not only surpassed the forty trillion,
- 1:10Speaker 4: but it will reach even higher by the end of
- 1:13Speaker 4: the year. So is there anyone trying to stop this?
- 1:17Speaker 4: We're going to break it down for you. But before
- 1:19Speaker 4: we get to that, it feels like our country finally
- 1:22Speaker 4: has momentum again with our leaders fighting to restore commons
- 1:26Speaker 4: since and America first. Now we've seen this before, Conservatives
- 1:30Speaker 4: get comfortable and the left starts taking back ground inch
- 1:33Speaker 4: by inch, and we're seeing it now with the Democratic
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- 2:55Speaker 4: seven Morning Update and it starts right now.
- 2:57Speaker 3: Story number one.
- 2:59Speaker 4: We're going to start with a story that should make
- 3:01Speaker 4: every American really angry, a story of the federal government
- 3:06Speaker 4: not and this includes Republicans living within our means. This
- 3:12Speaker 4: is the government destroying the future of this country for
- 3:17Speaker 4: our children and our grandchildren. The United States of America
- 3:22Speaker 4: has just crossed a number that almost doesn't sound real,
- 3:25Speaker 4: and most Americans cannot comprehend it. It's a number that
- 3:31Speaker 4: doesn't even make sense because our minds can understand the
- 3:35Speaker 4: amount of debt. We're talking about forty trillion dollars now,
- 3:41Speaker 4: that is roughly the size of America's gross national debt.
- 3:46Speaker 4: According to the Treasury Department, the total public debt outstanding
- 3:50Speaker 4: has officially surpassed the forty trillion for the first time
- 3:53Speaker 4: in history.
- 3:54Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal reported.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Today that the milestone has now been not only crossed,
- 3:58Speaker 4: but it's going to continue to go up. And the
- 4:02Speaker 4: portion economists generally compare with the economy is around the
- 4:05Speaker 4: size of the entire US gross domestic product. Now, if
- 4:10Speaker 4: you think about what that means, America is now carrying
- 4:14Speaker 4: a debt burden relative to the economy that we haven't
- 4:18Speaker 4: experienced since the aftermath of World War Two, except this
- 4:23Speaker 4: one is enormously different. In nineteen forty six, to put
- 4:27Speaker 4: this in perspective, America had just finished fighting a global war,
- 4:32Speaker 4: not on one front, but two fronts. We had mobilized millions
- 4:37Speaker 4: and millions of Americans, We had built an enormous military,
- 4:41Speaker 4: We'd manufactured thousands of ships and aircraft, and then we
- 4:46Speaker 4: did what no other country could do we defeated the
- 4:49Speaker 4: Nazis and the Japanese and saved well the free world.
- 4:54Speaker 4: So today you put that in comparison, well, we haven't
- 4:59Speaker 4: come out of emerging from a World War three. The
- 5:02Speaker 4: Congressional Budget Office, however, is saying our spending is even
- 5:06Speaker 4: worse than then. The Budget Office projects that debt held
- 5:10Speaker 4: by the public will equal one hundred and one percent
- 5:14Speaker 4: of GDP in twenty twenty six, meaning more in debt
- 5:18Speaker 4: than we actually did in our economy.
- 5:20Speaker 1: That is insane.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Now, the previous record was about one hundred and six
- 5:24Speaker 4: percent immediately after World War II, and the Congressional Budget
- 5:27Speaker 4: Office says we're on track to blow straight through that
- 5:30Speaker 4: record and reach one hundred and twenty percent of GDP
- 5:34Speaker 4: by twenty thirty five, in just nine years. And here's
- 5:38Speaker 4: the part that should terrify you as a taxpayer. I
- 5:42Speaker 4: don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat or
- 5:44Speaker 4: an independent. We aren't borrowing the money because America doesn't
- 5:48Speaker 4: collect enough money to operate a massive government of historical size.
- 5:54Speaker 4: We're spending extraordinary amounts of money because apparently that's just
- 5:58Speaker 4: what Washington thought would be fun for them, and kicking
- 6:02Speaker 4: the can down the road. The Coressional Budget Office expects
- 6:05Speaker 4: that Washington will spend approximately seven point four trillion dollars
- 6:11Speaker 4: this year while collecting five point six trillion in revenue.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Let's just be clear, five point six trillion is more
- 6:18Speaker 4: than enough to run a government. So that means that
- 6:22Speaker 4: we have a deficit of one point nine trillion in
- 6:25Speaker 4: one year alone, almost two trillion dollars. Now, the Republicans
- 6:29Speaker 4: will be clear, are in charge right now, and many
- 6:31Speaker 4: Republicans don't seem to care about what's happening now.
- 6:35Speaker 1: To put it another way, the Wall Street.
- 6:37Speaker 4: Journal calculated earlier this year that for every dollar Washington
- 6:42Speaker 4: collects in taxes and tariffs, it is spending a dollar
- 6:46Speaker 4: and thirty three cents. So let's make this more palatable
- 6:51Speaker 4: for all of us in our minds. Imagine you're running
- 6:55Speaker 4: your household like this. You're making one hundred thousand dollars
- 6:58Speaker 4: a year. Then every year you spend one hundred and
- 7:01Speaker 4: thirty three thousand. What do you do to come up
- 7:03Speaker 4: with the extra thirty three? You borrow the difference. Then
- 7:07Speaker 4: next year you do it again, and the next year again,
- 7:10Speaker 4: and the next year again, and then eventually your problem
- 7:14Speaker 4: isn't simply what you're buying. Your problem then becomes the
- 7:18Speaker 4: interest on everything you already bought, and that is where
- 7:22Speaker 4: America is right now. The interest bill may be the
- 7:25Speaker 4: most shocking number in this entire story. The Congressional Budget
- 7:30Speaker 4: Office is now projecting that the federal government will spend
- 7:34Speaker 4: one trillion on net interest in twenty twenty six alone
- 7:40Speaker 4: to cover what we have borrowed so far. Again, a
- 7:42Speaker 4: trillion dollars a year our US government needs just to
- 7:46Speaker 4: cover the interest payments on the money we borrowed now,
- 7:51Speaker 4: not paying down the debt, not fixing the highways, not
- 7:54Speaker 4: securing the border, not buying fighter jets, not funding schools,
- 7:57Speaker 4: not sending Social Security checks out, just on interest, something
- 8:02Speaker 4: that doesn't actually help anybody in this country at all
- 8:06Speaker 4: unless you're one of the institutions. It's buying up the
- 8:08Speaker 4: government's debt now one trillion dollars essentially for the privilege
- 8:12Speaker 4: of servicing money Washington is borrowed. Not twenty hell of
- 8:16Speaker 4: a deal for those that are lending out the money,
- 8:20Speaker 4: and the CBO also projects annual net interest costs could
- 8:23Speaker 4: climb to more than two point one trillion by twenty
- 8:27Speaker 4: thirty six. Meaning every year they need two point one
- 8:31Speaker 4: trillion dollars just to cover the debt. Now, let's break
- 8:36Speaker 4: one trillion and annual interest down. What does that mean?
- 8:40Speaker 4: It means that every day our government is having to
- 8:43Speaker 4: write a check for two point seven four billion.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Dollars every day.
- 8:48Speaker 4: That means every hour, twenty four hours a day, the
- 8:52Speaker 4: US government is having to come up with one hundred
- 8:54Speaker 4: and fourteen million dollars just to cover the interest. Yeah,
- 8:58Speaker 4: you heard me right, America twenty four to seven is
- 9:03Speaker 4: spending one hundred and fourteen million every hour just to
- 9:07Speaker 4: cover our debt. If you want to put it into
- 9:10Speaker 4: even a more understandable way for our minds, how about this.
- 9:15Speaker 4: Do you know every thirty seconds, every minute, how much
- 9:19Speaker 4: money we have to come up with to cover our
- 9:21Speaker 4: debt in the United States of America and our government
- 9:23Speaker 4: right now? One point nine million every thirty seconds is
- 9:29Speaker 4: how much it costs us, the taxpayers, not to run
- 9:32Speaker 4: our government just to fund the interest on borrowing the money. Now,
- 9:38Speaker 4: if you want to break it down even more to
- 9:40Speaker 4: make you even more angry, and again, I don't care
- 9:42Speaker 4: if you're a Democrat Republican, you should be livid right
- 9:44Speaker 4: now that means roughly every second, the federal government is
- 9:49Speaker 4: having to borrow thirty one thousand, seven hundred dollars every second,
- 9:53Speaker 4: one point nine million every minute, one hundred and fourteen
- 9:56Speaker 4: million every hour, and two point seven and four billion
- 10:01Speaker 4: every day just to cover our interest. Now, every second
- 10:06Speaker 4: you're listening to the story, imagine another thirty one thousand
- 10:09Speaker 4: dollars going out the door just to service the federal debt.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Count five seconds, one two three four five. You know
- 10:18Speaker 4: what that cost us in debt, just the interest one
- 10:21Speaker 4: hundred and fifty eight thousand in ten seconds. That's more
- 10:25Speaker 4: than three hundred and seventeen thousand, and we haven't paid
- 10:29Speaker 4: off one penny of the principle the amount of money
- 10:33Speaker 4: we borrowed with any of the money that I just mentioned. Now,
- 10:37Speaker 4: that is what makes all this so dangerous. Another way
- 10:40Speaker 4: to understand forty trillion dollars in debt is this way.
- 10:44Speaker 4: Just take America's roughly three hundred and forty million residents
- 10:48Speaker 4: a right, that's where we are with our population, all right,
- 10:52Speaker 4: And then if you want to take just the interest
- 10:54Speaker 4: that we owe, that's forty trillion dollars.
- 10:57Speaker 1: What would that mean for every American? If they got
- 11:00Speaker 1: a check.
- 11:02Speaker 4: The national debt works out too roughly one hundred and
- 11:05Speaker 4: seventeen thousand for every man, woman, and child in America.
- 11:09Speaker 4: So right now the national debt is at one hundred
- 11:13Speaker 4: and seventeen thousand for every man, woman, and child. If
- 11:16Speaker 4: we just didn't have that debt, we could write a
- 11:18Speaker 4: check to every single person in this country that is
- 11:23Speaker 4: a citizen for that amount of money. Now, if you
- 11:27Speaker 4: want to know how much money we're talking about here,
- 11:29Speaker 4: for a family of four, the national debt works out
- 11:32Speaker 4: too roughly four hundred and seventy thousand dollars that you
- 11:37Speaker 4: could write a check to a family of four to
- 11:39Speaker 4: four if we just didn't have to pay the debt
- 11:42Speaker 4: on the forty trillion dollars that.
- 11:44Speaker 1: We are in debt right now. Now.
- 11:47Speaker 4: Obviously, the government isn't going to mail your family a
- 11:49Speaker 4: four hundred and seventy thousand dollars invoice tomorrow morning. But
- 11:53Speaker 4: that's the scale of the liability that is being carried
- 11:56Speaker 4: by this country. Now, if you look at taxpayers, because
- 11:59Speaker 4: now every person pays taxes, then it's a lot worse
- 12:04Speaker 4: than what I just described. The IRS processed more than
- 12:07Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty five million individual income tax returns
- 12:11Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. Now, if you simply divide forty
- 12:14Speaker 4: trillion by those one hundred and sixty five million returns
- 12:18Speaker 4: as illustrated on the.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Burden of well where you would be.
- 12:22Speaker 4: That means that every taxpayer in America would have to
- 12:26Speaker 4: write a check to get our debt to zero. For
- 12:28Speaker 4: one one thousandth of a second, you would have to
- 12:31Speaker 4: write a check for two hundred and forty two thousand
- 12:33Speaker 4: dollars right now. But immediately you would still owe more
- 12:36Speaker 4: money because why government is spending about thirty three cents
- 12:41Speaker 4: more per dollar than we're bringing in. Every dollar they get,
- 12:44Speaker 4: they spend a dollar thirty three And again that's not
- 12:47Speaker 4: a literal bill that goes out to you. Married comples,
- 12:52Speaker 4: by the way, can file jointly. Some federal tax payers,
- 12:56Speaker 4: well they file individual returns, and federal debt isn't alec
- 13:00Speaker 4: that way. But it gives you an idea of the
- 13:03Speaker 4: magnitude of the problem. One hundred and seventeen thousand is
- 13:06Speaker 4: what every breathing American would have to write check for
- 13:09Speaker 4: to get our debt to zero. And a lot of
- 13:12Speaker 4: people don't pay taxes. That's why skyrockets two hundred and
- 13:16Speaker 4: forty two thousand per individual income tax return, and Washington,
- 13:21Speaker 4: by the way, is still adding to the tab. By
- 13:23Speaker 4: the end of the fiscal year two thousand, for example,
- 13:26Speaker 4: America's gross federal debt was six point five trillion. You
- 13:31Speaker 4: fast forward ten years later, it was at thirteen point
- 13:35Speaker 4: five trillion. In ten years after that, in twenty twenty,
- 13:40Speaker 4: the number skyrocketed a twenty six point nine trillion, and
- 13:43Speaker 4: by the end of the fiscal year twenty twenty five
- 13:46Speaker 4: it was thirty seven point four trillion dollars. Well, now
- 13:50Speaker 4: we're in August and the number is hit forty trillion.
- 13:54Speaker 4: That means America's debt has increased by more than sevenfold
- 14:00Speaker 4: since two thousand and according to reporting on the latest numbers,
- 14:04Speaker 4: the debt increased by roughly three trillion over the past
- 14:07Speaker 4: year alone, about seven point nine billion each and every day.
- 14:12Speaker 4: So let that number sink in. We're adding debt at
- 14:15Speaker 4: a pace of roughly three hundred and twenty nine million
- 14:18Speaker 4: an hour, five point five million a minute, more than
- 14:22Speaker 4: ninety one thousand every second. So just to go back
- 14:25Speaker 4: and put it in perspective in a different way, just
- 14:29Speaker 4: during this story alone, that you've been listening to. The
- 14:32Speaker 4: national debt has increased by thirty eight million dollars. And
- 14:36Speaker 4: there's an important distinction here about this. The forty trillion
- 14:41Speaker 4: figure is gross federal debt. It includes debt held by
- 14:44Speaker 4: the public plus money the government owes to its own accounts,
- 14:48Speaker 4: and according to the current figures reported by Reuters, there's
- 14:52Speaker 4: approximately thirty two point three trillion in public health treasury
- 14:56Speaker 4: debt and another roughly seven point eight trillion intro governmental holdings.
- 15:01Speaker 4: The economists generally focused on the publicly held debt when
- 15:05Speaker 4: comparing the debt to the GDP, and even by the
- 15:08Speaker 4: narrow measurement, we're around one hundred percent of the entire
- 15:12Speaker 4: US economy. This is why I bring up this issue.
- 15:16Speaker 4: You can blame COVID. You can say it was the
- 15:19Speaker 4: trunk tax CODs that were the best we've ever seen
- 15:22Speaker 4: that somehow puts in this situation. I actually think it's
- 15:25Speaker 4: none of those things. What I do think it is
- 15:28Speaker 4: is clearly this our government has figured it out that
- 15:32Speaker 4: they can spend as much money as they want to
- 15:34Speaker 4: and no one is going to stop them. And that
- 15:36Speaker 4: includes both sides of the aisle and what they're doing
- 15:40Speaker 4: is destroying this country with debt at a level that
- 15:43Speaker 4: no one could ever imagine, and they're doing it because
- 15:47Speaker 4: so many Americans are asleep at the will. So many
- 15:51Speaker 4: Americans are sitting here and have no clue about what
- 15:55Speaker 4: I just told you, So I hope you'll share it
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