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Hour 3 - Just Stick With Trump · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Hour 3, Clay and Buck, kicks off now. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being here, everybody. And we have some news today
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  Speaker 1: to get to. A very encouraging, very good news story
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  Speaker 1: from the perspective of, well, of course, Trump, the United States.
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  Speaker 1: The return of Stephen James Hubbard is underway. He's a 74-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: American retired English teacher. He was a veteran also from
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  Speaker 1: Big Rapids, Michigan, detained by Russian forces in Ukraine in
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  Speaker 1: April 2022. And he was convicted as a mercenary in
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  Speaker 1: a closed Moscow trial in October 24. And he has
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  Speaker 1: been today released after a direct request from President Trump
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  Speaker 1: to Vladimir Putin. So just a little bit of background
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  Speaker 1: on this. Russian forces captured him, captured rather the city
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  Speaker 1: of Izyum in April of 2022. Hubbard was detained then,
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  Speaker 1: and Russian authorities alleged he had joined a Ukrainian territorial
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  Speaker 1: defense unit and received training and was going to be
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  Speaker 1: paid for this. They charged him under Russian criminal code.
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  Speaker 1: His family and his U.S.-based lawyers have completely rejected this.
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  Speaker 1: They said the claims were absurd given his age and
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  Speaker 1: his reportedly pro-Russian views. His lawyers stated that Hubbard said
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  Speaker 1: Russian soldiers simply grabbed him from his house. He was
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  Speaker 1: not in any combat unit. And so he was just seized, essentially.
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  Speaker 1: Sentenced to six years, by the way, and ten months
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  Speaker 1: in a penal colony. I am sure a Russian penal
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  Speaker 1: colony is an extremely unpleasant place. But point here is...
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  Speaker 1: Trump got him released, an American coming home with his family,
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  Speaker 1: something here to be grateful for. Nice work by the president.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the president. This is cut 20. Here
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  Speaker 1: he is talking about this prisoner release.
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  Speaker 2: Play 20.
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  Speaker 1: The U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Is on the verge of a deal to free the
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  Speaker 3: American teacher, Stephen Hubbard, from Russia.
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  Speaker 2: Just stick with me. Nobody else was able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Just stick with me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it, but everybody's been
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  Speaker 4: after Hubbard for a long time, long before.
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  Speaker 2: I got here.
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  Speaker 4: And just to remember that question for a couple of
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  Speaker 4: days from now, okay? Because I do things that nobody
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  Speaker 4: else can do. I hate to say it. So watch
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  Speaker 4: what happens.
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  Speaker 2: We have been focused on Hubbard, and we don't give
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  Speaker 2: $ 6 billion like Biden. We don't give the number one
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  Speaker 2: in history, the number one arms dealer ever in history,
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  Speaker 2: and get a basketball player back and give $ 6 billion
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  Speaker 2: on top of it.
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  Speaker 4: I've been talking to President Putin about Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Hubbard.
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  Speaker 4: I've been talking to him at length. I've asked him
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  Speaker 4: to release him. Let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he got released. Well done, President Trump. He is,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, Hubbard is on the way home to his family.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that I've actually talked to friends about
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  Speaker 1: many times over the years, and they say, as somebody
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  Speaker 1: who used to be and is publicly known now because
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  Speaker 1: of my profile in the media and stuff, and I
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  Speaker 1: was an overt employee at the agency, so my affiliation
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  Speaker 1: is something that's been out there for a long time
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  Speaker 1: at the CIA, there are just countries I won't go to.
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  Speaker 1: Even if I have the permission of the country to
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  Speaker 1: be there, I just won't go because of something like this.
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  Speaker 1: They can very easily say, well, we think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you were formerly a spy. That's the language they would
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  Speaker 1: use to describe somebody like me. And they would say,
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  Speaker 1: we're just going to grab you. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: not that I'm some important chess piece or something. They
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  Speaker 1: grabbed Stephen Hubbard. Nobody ever heard of this guy before.
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  Speaker 1: But they can grab you and then use you as
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  Speaker 1: leverage for other things that they want. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Russia is a country that is at the very top
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  Speaker 1: of the list of doing this. depending on who you are,
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  Speaker 1: I could imagine China would be concerning as well. China
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  Speaker 1: could definitely do something like this. I really make it
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  Speaker 1: a habit not to go. Now, obviously, Hubbard was picked
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  Speaker 1: up in Ukraine as part of the when the invasion
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  Speaker 1: invasion was happening. Russia was invading sovereign territory of another nation.
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  Speaker 1: But I make it a practice. I'm not going anywhere
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  Speaker 1: where I could get picked up, one, for political reasons
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  Speaker 1: like that, and two, where the call from the embassy
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  Speaker 1: means almost nothing. The call from the embassy in Moscow
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  Speaker 1: to the Russian authorities, it's not really going to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like some Caribbean country we have warm relations with,
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  Speaker 1: where they're like, all right, you know, no harm, no foul.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. Remember, we did this with the, well,
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  Speaker 1: although they went initially and arrested the guy who had,
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  Speaker 1: I think, like a couple of, nine millimeter bullets in
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  Speaker 1: his bag by accident because he had gone shooting. It
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  Speaker 1: was truly just a couple of rounds. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Turks and Caicos arrested him and he was facing some
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  Speaker 1: mandatory prison sentence there. You know, we can get Turks
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  Speaker 1: and Caicos to play ball pretty easily. I think America,
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  Speaker 1: we can usually get them to play ball with a reasonable,
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  Speaker 1: this is a reasonable thing, right? It's not, oh, he
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  Speaker 1: murdered somebody, let him go. No harm, no foul is
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  Speaker 1: an accident. And in Russia, you don't even have to
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  Speaker 1: have a situation like that. They picked up Brittany Griner.
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  Speaker 1: The Brittany Griner thing was different. Trump referenced that. That's
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  Speaker 1: where we picked up or we traded, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: Victor Bout, who is the real-life international arms dealer that
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  Speaker 1: the movie Lord of War, starring Nicolas Cage, was based on. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we traded the really number one FBI-wanted arms dealer guy
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  Speaker 1: for Brittany Griner, who plays in the WNBA. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people thought that that was a, to borrow
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  Speaker 1: from sports, a lopsided trade. Not really the kind of
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  Speaker 1: trade that we should have been making at that time.
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  Speaker 1: And Brittany Griner, it was my understanding, she did have
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  Speaker 1: marijuana residue on a pipe or something when she went through.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a violation. So they didn't just pick her
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  Speaker 1: up completely at random. She actually broke Russian law, which was,
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  Speaker 1: I understand, similar somewhat to the situation in Turks and
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  Speaker 1: Caicos with the guy with the bullets in his bag.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you, when you're in a foreign country,
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  Speaker 1: one thing that you should always have in your mind is,
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  Speaker 1: does this place actually have a good relationship with America
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  Speaker 1: or not? Because that can affect a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: It can affect your safety out in the street. It
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  Speaker 1: can also affect your ability to freely move around without
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  Speaker 1: being detained, picked up, harassed. And unless you have a
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  Speaker 1: very important professional reason to go somewhere, uh, that there
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  Speaker 1: can be real problems. I would, I would personally avoid it.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why people ask me why haven't I
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  Speaker 1: been to Russia? I'm not going to Russia because I
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  Speaker 1: don't trust the Russians. I just don't, you know, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't find any, uh, need or desire to go there. And, um, I,
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  Speaker 1: I should say it would be a, I actually think
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  Speaker 1: it'd be an interesting country. I would like, I wish
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  Speaker 1: I could go to Russia without worrying about what, Vladimir
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  Speaker 1: Putin and the regime would do, because I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's an amazing country and there's a lot of history
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lot of very beautiful things about it.
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  Speaker 1: And the Russian people are great people in many ways.
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  Speaker 1: But this current, you know, the same thing like China
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  Speaker 1: is an amazing country. Been around in different capacities or
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  Speaker 1: in different iterations. It's not really just kind of one China,
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  Speaker 1: but China's been around for millennia. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great stuff about China. Amazing things to see. But
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  Speaker 1: you got a thug government of a thousand communists who
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  Speaker 1: run the whole place and can do whatever they want.
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend who told me, it wasn't long ago,
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  Speaker 1: we're actually out on a boat together. And he's a
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  Speaker 1: wealthy Chinese guy. And he told me that even now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're wealthy, I mean, he's very wealthy. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a very wealthy Chinese guy, you.
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  Speaker 1: May well find yourself in a situation where, well, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, you're going to have to pay off the
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  Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, right? You're going to have to stay
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  Speaker 1: in their good graces. But even though, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying he paid off anybody or not, I don't know, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're going to have to play the game there, okay?
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  Speaker 1: It's a very, very corrupt place. And if you're a
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  Speaker 1: big target, if you're a big bank, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: to be siphoned from, that will happen. He just told
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  Speaker 1: me that some local communist boss in a province he
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  Speaker 1: was visiting there just locked him up for like 14
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  Speaker 1: days in a cell with just basically water and and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't even tell him why or anything at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day some guy came to sell was
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  Speaker 1: like you know you got to wire x millions of
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  Speaker 1: dollars to the following bank account we'll let you out
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  Speaker 1: that and he's chinese that stuff happens there you know
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  Speaker 1: these things happen in these other countries so i bring
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  Speaker 1: it up also because You know, I understand this place
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  Speaker 1: is imperfect. I understand that America has its challenges, just
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  Speaker 1: like everything is imperfect, right? America has its challenges, but
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  Speaker 1: we are still so far ahead of these other places. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are these very frustrating moments that can
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  Speaker 1: happen in our system. The treatment of some of the
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  Speaker 1: J6 prisoners, for example, comes to mind where they were
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  Speaker 1: just locked up, solitary confinement, treated like they were terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't terrorists. Many of them were entirely nonviolent but
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  Speaker 1: were American. So guess what? They were pardoned and Trump
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  Speaker 1: did win and they are free and 2024 happened. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in other countries, that sort of thing, what
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  Speaker 1: you saw happen to the J six, that's daily life.
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  Speaker 1: You get on the wrong side of the regime, lock
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  Speaker 1: you in a cell, beat you, nothing to be done
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  Speaker 1: about it. That's just the way it is. Your family
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  Speaker 1: just gets to, you know, weep in quiet. They can't
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  Speaker 1: even do it publicly. So remember what a great country
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  Speaker 1: this is. And something else that comes to mind with this,
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  Speaker 1: the release of this individual Hubbard, Donald Trump gets results,
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  Speaker 1: especially on foreign policy stuff, that a lot of other presidents,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other leadership just can't get. This notion,
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  Speaker 1: and this is very much within, I think, what you'd
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  Speaker 1: call the Trump doctrine or the Trump approach, this notion
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  Speaker 1: of it's about individual relationships at the top level and
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  Speaker 1: understanding power dynamics, that's not a crazy notion at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's shown itself to work, I think, in many instances
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  Speaker 1: uh for for the president and it has been one
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  Speaker 1: of the things that he has done that is absolutely
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  Speaker 1: in the face of the so-called experts and the expert
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  Speaker 1: class and he's shown that you don't actually have to
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  Speaker 1: have a phd and and in in uh you know
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  Speaker 1: near eastern studies and speak aramaic for example to be
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  Speaker 1: able to negotiate effectively with middle eastern partners Now, the
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  Speaker 1: Russia-Ukraine war hasn't been brought to an end. Trump has
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  Speaker 1: been trying, and I know that there's been some advancements
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  Speaker 1: here with Zelensky now saying that maybe they're willing to
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  Speaker 1: freeze the borders where they are. That's a very difficult
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  Speaker 1: conflict to bring to an end because as long as
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  Speaker 1: the Russians think that it's in their interest to keep going,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to keep going. You can't get them to
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  Speaker 1: stop that. So if their military calculation is we'll get
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  Speaker 1: more from more fighting, they're going to keep fighting. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a very hard thing to shut off. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: the Ukrainians have gotten much better at defense over time.
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  Speaker 1: Their military has gotten really armed up and trained up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that's funding them now, their
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  Speaker 1: weapons and everything, is coming from Europe. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's Trump. He wanted to have the Europeans pick up
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  Speaker 1: more of the tab, which is totally fair. Makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And we're hoping that this war could be brought to
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  Speaker 1: an end as well. But that one is very tough
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  Speaker 1: because the... desire of the Russians. And well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: the Ukrainians were doing it for their sovereignty and, and
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  Speaker 1: their sense of themselves as a people. So they're fighting
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  Speaker 1: very hard. And to their credit, they are, they are
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  Speaker 1: fighting very hard and long against the Russian war machine.
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  Speaker 1: But the Russians, man, the Russian capacity for suffering, and
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  Speaker 1: the Russian capacity to just keep on sacrificing for the
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  Speaker 1: perceived or the, the dictated national interest is a impressive
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  Speaker 1: and tragic thing at the same time. So I know
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  Speaker 1: Trump wants to bring that to a conclusion, but we
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  Speaker 1: have an American home. That's a good thing. Good to
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  Speaker 1: see that happen. And another, another high five going to
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  Speaker 1: this Trump administration for getting it done.
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  Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. Let's get into some of our
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  Speaker 1: talkbacks here. By the way, we have Shabbos Kestenbaum joining
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  Speaker 1: He's got a big show over there. Want to have
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  Speaker 1: certainly capable of acquiring wisdom and applying it over time.
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  Speaker 1: And he's going to join us and we'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: him about a bunch of things, including what's going on
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  Speaker 1: in American politics right now. Baby Speed just walked past
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's do some of these talkbacks, shall we? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: podcast listener Eve, hit it.
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  Speaker 6: Buck, this is Eve, formerly from Michigan, now from Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: stigma that you suffer.
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  Speaker 1: And my granddaughter who's turning four started.
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  Speaker 7: At one going with her daddy.
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  Speaker 1: And has made bird houses and wind chimes, get him
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  Speaker 1: going early. That's actually a really cool idea. I did
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  Speaker 1: not know that. That's interesting. Home Depot has crafts classes
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  Speaker 1: for kids.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 1: So here's what I, what I, as I, as I
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  Speaker 1: get older and wiser, I realized, you know, I'm never
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  Speaker 1: going to be a craftsman or a great, uh, or
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  Speaker 1: balcony gardening jokes aside, some of these things are really therapeutic,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they work your mind in an important way.
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  Speaker 1: Building things. There's something about building a thing or nurturing something,
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  Speaker 1: a degree of peace in all the best ways. C,
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  Speaker 1: an unidentified podcast listener. This is more Home Depot talk.
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  Speaker 1: Play C.
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  Speaker 6: Buck, you got to stop talking about Home Depot. It
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  Speaker 6: just keeps getting worse. Most guys go to the garden
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  Speaker 6: center at Home Depot to buy Mother's Day gifts or
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  Speaker 6: to lift the heavy bags because they respect their wives
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  Speaker 6: and moms and don't want them to have to get
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  Speaker 6: dirty doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm going to tell you, I felt
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  Speaker 1: pretty manly taking my bags of soil, throwing them over
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  Speaker 1: my shoulder. You know, just throwing those bags on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: I practically felt like I was connecting with my Irish
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  Speaker 1: ancestors down at the docks in New York as they
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  Speaker 1: would show up for like, you know, labor positions and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just throwing things over my shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: carrying around. And it felt pretty. Now, the gardening center.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of petunias around.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, I'm they're going to know me over there.
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  Speaker 1: And my balcony gardening is coming along. B, podcast listener Mandy.
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  Speaker 1: Play it.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys. Mandy from Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Moved here in 2014.
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  Speaker 4: Got out of that crazy California. Last time I saw
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  Speaker 4: voting like this was in 2016 when Trump won.
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  Speaker 6: There's people standing in line everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So Texas ain't turning blue. We're red.
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  Speaker 3: Love you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mandy. Right back at you. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: very confident. I feel very good on Texas still. I
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  Speaker 1: will say that the huge enthusiasm that she's seeing, some
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  Speaker 1: of it is Democrats who think that they were close
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  Speaker 1: with Beto and now they'll get it over the line
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  Speaker 1: with Talafrico. But I'm not buying it. You don't mess
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  Speaker 1: with Texas.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We're a nation of generous people, particularly when it comes
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• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Before we get to our guests, just some breaking news
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the team has flagged for me here. Meta which people
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: mostly think of as Facebook, but it also owns Instagram
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and has other things, ordered to pay $ 25 billion for
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: deceiving users on privacy by a court. This is a
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: lawsuit by New Mexico. Wow, $ 25 billion. $ 25 billion. $ 25
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: million is a joke to Meta. $ 25 billion is real money.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: That's something to think about. Shabbos Kestenbaum. of PragerU joins
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: us now. He's an American Jewish activist. After the October
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: 7th attacks on Israel, he filed a lawsuit against Harvard University,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: alleging the university failed to protect Jewish and Israeli students
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: from harassment and discrimination. And he was previously a Democrat.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So Shabbos, welcome to the light, sir. The light of wisdom, truth,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and the American way.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Don't hold it against me, all right? No one's perfect.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: I've repented, and I'm officially a conservative. Conservative enough that
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: PragerU hired me, at least.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: There we go. Tell me about, we've got a few
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: things we could talk about. First of all, actually, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: wanted your take on this. Why is it that the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: maniacs running on the streets of not just Paris, a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: bunch of French cities, but a number of French cities,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: You'll notice they have the masked-up faces, of course. They're
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: breaking stuff. They're stealing stuff. They're lighting things on fire
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and waving Palestinian flags. Walk us through this. What's going
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on there?
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I figured you'd ask that. I was at Boise
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: State last night, and a student asked me the exact
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: same thing. It's because of the omni-cause. Palestine has become
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: the great connector of all these disjointed movements. It's the
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: only thing that really connects Anna Kasparian with Candace Owens,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: the thing that connects the far left with the Islamists.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: So you have Greta Thunberg, who, when I was a liberal,
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: I remember skipping school to protest with her outside of
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: the United Nations for climate change, and we were burning
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: too many fossil fuels. But now, of course, Palestine is
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: a climate issue, and Palestine is an abortion women's rights issue,
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: and Palestine is a gay issue. So whatever issue you
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: just want to project onto other things, Palestine has just
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: become that thing. Which is why you don't even have
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: to articulate or explain the nuances of one of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: most complex geopolitical issues in the world. Just say free Palestine.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Just say river to the sea. Just put a Palestine
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: flag in your Instagram bio. And that's enough. That's enough
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: to virtue signal. And that's what these attacks represent. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: that's why someone like Congressman Ro Khanna. can sympathize with
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: it so much because he no longer has to defend
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: the looting, the burning, and the vandalism. He can just say, well,
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: they're angry about Gaza and they have a right to
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: be heard. It's just silly, and I would hope the
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: American people see through this.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: The election that's coming up here, you have this Abdul
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Al-Sayed character who is a very realistic, has a very
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: realistic shot of winning a Michigan Senate seat. He has
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: been viewed by many as is viewed by many as anti-Semitic.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I think he just recently said that Israel is not
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: an ally of the United States. Is he, not only
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: as a candidate, but just is he symbolic of a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: broader trend in America? And how do you think, particularly,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you're a young guy. I don't know how much of
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: a whippersnapper you are, but I can tell you're younger
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: than me. How much of the young Jewish American community
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: would you say is is either waking up to, if
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they haven't already woken up to, an America in which
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: outright hostility toward Israel and toward the Jews is seeming
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to be more normalized, especially by candidates for higher office.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, first of all, don't sell yourself short. You're
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: pretty young too, all right? We're in this together. I
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: would say a couple of things. First of all, this
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: race in Michigan is the most important race this November,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: hands down, because we as conservatives have been making the
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: argument that for basically years now, that the DSA can
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: essentially only win in places like New York City, places
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: like Los Angeles, these big blue cities. Now, it's true,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: El-Sayed is not officially part of the DSA, but he's
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: adopted most of their policies. And if a guy like
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Abdul El-Sayed, someone whose mom was working for an organization
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: that was shut down by the Department of Treasury for
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: literally supporting Osama bin Laden, Someone whose sister says that,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: you know, our family is part of the Muslim Brotherhood.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Someone who defended an Islamic jihadi attack against a Michigan
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: preschool by saying hurt people, hurt people. If that, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Muslim radical can win in a swing state, a state
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: that Trump carried two out of three, then what that
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: signifies to the DSA is let's run these candidates everywhere.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: We are nationally competitive. And our argument as conservatives of
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: the DSA doesn't really represent, you know, the mainstream Democratic
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Party or at least the DSA isn't competitive. It's just
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: not true anymore. And as a conservative, that makes me
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: happy because that means we can really show that the
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Democratic Party functioning no longer exists. But as an American,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: that concerns me because they're so radical, they're so extreme,
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: and they're so far to the left. And the message
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: I always say to the American Jewish community is if
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: you want to be taken seriously, stop being taken for granted.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: The Democratic Party will continue to nominate people like Abdul
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: El-Sayed and people like Zohra Mamdani because they think to themselves, wow,
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: You stupid Jews, 60% of you are still going to
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: vote for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan. So we have no
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: political incentive to nominate moderates. We have no political incentive
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: to nominate people in the middle because you're just going
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: to vote for our extreme anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish, anti-American, anti-Western candidates.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: So why would we ever not nominate people like Abdul El-Sayed?
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: So it's imperative. that moderates and of course, conservatives and
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Republicans come together for this election and defeat Abdul El-Sayed.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: He represents a significant threat, not just to the Jewish
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: community of Michigan and not just to the people of Michigan,
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: but to really our body politic. We have to make
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: it clear that we do not like candidates and we
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: do not support candidates who fundamentally hate the United States
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: of America. And that's what Abdul El-Sayed does and represents.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: We're speaking to Shabbos Kestenbaum of PragerU. He's a host
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of PragerU and Shabbos, You touched on something there I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: wanted to see if you could just expand your thinking
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: on a little bit for everyone, because it's come up
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: before on the show, and that is the Jewish community
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: specifically in Michigan. My esteemed co-host Clay, who has a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: day off today, he and I have been going back
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and forth on whether there will be a clear, meaning
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: at least a double-digit shift in the Jewish vote in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Michigan because Abdul El-Sayed is a candidate. I always say
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to him, that Bernie Sanders Jews will vote. I mean,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they would vote for the head of the Muslim Brotherhood
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: as long as the rest of the sort of left-wing
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Jewish political program was attached to it, that they'll put
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: those things aside. Clay is not as, you know, he
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: thinks they wouldn't just vote for bin Laden or they
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't vote for some radical Islamist, and he thinks they
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: won't vote for al-Sayed. What do you make of that?
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the short answer is like kind of. So I'll
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: go to New York just for a second. Kathy Hochul
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: had won the Jewish vote by significant numbers in 2022
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: when she ran against Lee Zeldin. It was a favorability
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: upwards of 30 percent. Now that she's running against Bruce And,
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: you know, full disclosure, I support Bruce Blakeman. I've done
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: some campaign events with him, but I'm fairly positive Kathy
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Ogle will win regardless. But the Jewish vote has markedly
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: swung away from her and her approval rating amongst Jews.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: It's only upwards of three percent as opposed to Bruce Blakeman.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: So what we're seeing in Michigan is something kind of interesting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: People like Rabbi Asher Lopatin, who's a respected Orthodox rabbi
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: who actually know personally he's a liberal by all imaginations personally.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: He's come out in favor of Mike Rogers. He's endorsed
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: him publicly. You do have a lot of the mainstream
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: Jewish establishment, like the Federation, that while they may not
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: endorse a candidate explicitly, are very clearly against Abdul El-Sayed
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: and the radicalism that he represents. So I do actually
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: think you'll see a shift away, and that includes Jewish Democrats.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: If they won't vote for Mike Rogers because they just
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: cannot vote for a Republican because that's one of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: cardinal sins, at the very least, they're going to leave
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: that slate blank. And if and when Mike Rogers wins,
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: I do think a large part of that will be
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: because of Jews, and in particular, Jewish Democrats. And Mike
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Rogers is very smart. His campaign has been run pretty well.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: He's made the case, too. You don't have to support me.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: I get it. I get you don't want to support Republicans.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: But at the very least, leave that slap blank. Don't
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: vote for Abdul El-Sayed, because that is a vote for
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Mike Rogers if you leave him blank. And that's actually
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: an effective argument.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: My team is telling me, by the way, I didn't
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: know this, that Deborah Messing, the very left-wing actress, is
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: actually backing- Blakeman, she is she is Jewish and outspoken
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: on some of those issues. Are there others from the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Jewish community who are becoming are they switching from Bernie
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Sanders Jews to Carol Markowitz Jews, for example, one of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: our podcast hosts here who's maybe maybe as right wing
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: as I am? Is that happening with some of these
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: more prominent names of the community or is it really
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: just a one time thing? We have to send a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: message here by not allowing Abdul El-Sayed as a candidate
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to get through.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So again, yes and no. And Deborah and I
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: were actually at the same event with Bruce Blakeman. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: you also see it on her side in Congressional District 12,
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: where a lot of prominent American Jews are.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: That's where I grew up, by the way. That was
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: my congressional district for like 30 something years. So there
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Sorry to hear you were represented by Jerry Nadler. But
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: point being, it's a great area. But Caroline Schenkel, who's
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: the Republican nominee, she's been making a really solid push
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: to the Jewish community, most of whom are registered Democrats,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: and she's actually succeeding. Now, will that be enough to
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: pull her over? We'll see. But she is making a
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: concerted effort. And you do have prominent American lifelong Jewish
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: Democrats who are willing to make the switch. And I'll
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: make another sort of analogous scenario here. Donald Trump did
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: not win the majority of the American Jewish vote, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: he did win the largest percentage of the Jewish vote
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: of any Republican nominee since Ronald Reagan. The Republican Jewish
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: coalition put in an historic amount of funding for advertisements
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: and for getting out the vote campaigns, and it kind
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: of did work. So we are seeing, and there was
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: an article about this in the Wall Street Journal just two,
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: three days ago, that the cracks have emerged in the
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Democratic Party. And outside of African-Americans, Jews used to be
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: the most loyal constituents to the Democratic Party. And what
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: we have seen with people like Zohra Mamdani or Abdul El-Sayed,
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: or yes, Jerry Nadler, I mentioned early, if you're not
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: going to support our constituency, then I hate to say it,
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: but like American politics are exclusively transactional. We have this,
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: you know, fictitious version of democracy that we all sing
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: Kumbaya and get along with each other. And that's not
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: really true. And if you don't want to make concessions
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: to the American Jewish community, that's your prerogative, but then
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: we're not really going to support you. And as I
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: said earlier, my message to Jewish Democrats, if you want
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: to be taken seriously, stop being taken for granted. You know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: hold your nose, vote for Mike Rogers just this one time,
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: if only to send the message to the Democratic Party,
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: stop nominating these crazies.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So we're speaking to Shabbos Kestenbaum from PragerU. And so
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you are Gen Z. So I can– not to get
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: into the whole whippersnapper discussion again. I appreciate it. I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: just going to hide the gray patch on my beard here.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But you're Gen Z. This guy– this ties in the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Al-Sayed thing. This guy, Hasan Piker. We haven't talked about him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: little bit on the show. He was getting so much
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: attention for a while. Look, a lot of the stuff
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: he says, most of the stuff that he says, what
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I see is both loathsome and stupid. Fine. And we
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: deal with the arguments here. But I'm wondering if you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: can speak to this. Why? Why is someone like that?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: popular among the young and there are young men that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it seems are. And I think he was like a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: streaming guy from the video games. Like, where does the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: popularity of somebody who dresses, who cosplays as Mao Zedong
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: in public? And he truly does.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: What?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: What about that?
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I think there are a couple of ways of answering
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: this question. Firstly, I would say I know you didn't
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: ask it specifically, but I think it's important to address it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: You know, Charlie always taught me that you combat bad
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: ideas with better ideas. So even though I detest what
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Assan Piker stands for, ultimately, I don't think the response
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: should be cancellation. So that's number one. In terms of
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: the specifics of your question of like, why did Gen
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: Z like this guy? I do think in general, there's
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: been a very successful demoralization campaign targeting young people in America.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: We're seeing it on both the far left and on
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: the far right. And so Gen Z, who do not
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: remember 9-11, they don't have that as a significant memory
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: in their psyche anymore. they're more likely to believe a
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: guy who says America deserve 9-11 because they don't really
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: remember the horrors of that day. And they're sympathetic to
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: those who want to blow up the political establishment because
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: the problems that someone like Nick Fuentes on the right
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: or Hassan Piker on the left knows, for the most part,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: are kind of accurate. They'll talk about affordability, which is true.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: They'll talk about the epidemic of male loneliness, which is
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: kind of true. But they won't offer any practical antidotes.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: They won't offer any practical policies or pieces of legislation
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: that will help them. They'll just get them really, really angry.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: And it's working. We also see at the same time
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: as someone who came from, as you said, institutions of
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: higher learning, in particular at Harvard, we are seeing that
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: our institutions of higher learning are indoctrinating students, not professors
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: who care about how you should think, but what you
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: should think. And that is a major, major problem. It's
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: ruining the psyche of young people in America.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I wish we had time for more of a long
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: form here. Unfortunately, we got radio breaks and things I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: got to get to. But real give me a give
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: me a quick one minute version. How did you step
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: into the light? What made you break with being a Democrat?
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: Well, ironically, Ben Shapiro once said we have to fund
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Harvard University. And I said, what are you talking about?
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: We have to defund them. And he said, no, Shabbos,
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: you entered Harvard as a socialist and you left as
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: a conservative. So whatever they did, it's working. And that's
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: basically what happened. I started to meet leftists for the
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: first time in my life. I didn't know other leftists
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: because as an Orthodox Jew, you don't know any other
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: Orthodox Jews who voted for Bernie Sanders. And once I
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: started meeting real leftists in real life and having conversations
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: with them on Harvard's campus, I quickly realized that we
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: have so many ideological flaws. And then the final nail
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: in the coffin was October 7th, because not only do
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: we have ideological flaws, not only can we not back
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: up our assertions politically, but also you support terrorists. Also,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: you support the eradication of Western civilization. And that's when
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I said, I'm done. And to your point, I turned
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: to the dark side. And I'm very happy I did,
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: because it's a lot more fun and more cool being
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: a conservative. And we make a lot more sense.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the team. Quick, quick, quick one here.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Words per minute contest. You and the great Ben Shapiro.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Who gets more words a minute?
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: You know, Ben, Ben told me I talk too fast,
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: which I think is a little odd coming from Ben.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: I don't think I talk fast. I think people comprehend slowly,
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: but that's an argument for another time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Chavez Kestenbaum. Good to talk to you, my friend.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Good work at PragerU. Thanks for being here.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: Appreciate it, man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm on the record with this. We'll hold on to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the Senate in the midterms, I think. Holding the House majority,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a tougher call. Everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 5: But I wouldn't worry too much about the Home Depot thing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to point out.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to point out that Amy Afton was
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  Speaker 3: So now she wants to play the victim and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: she's the one who started this with the mothers.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting. Well, we'll see Brenda. I think, um, Whether
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