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AI Therapy, Parenting, Black Sheep of Christianity, Friendship, Depression, Loneliness, Loss · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Hello ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keane from GOD TV
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  I also have a section for my live shows that are scheduled.
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  If you have a microphone, you're welcome to participate in any of
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  the conversations that I do. Today we're going to be
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  responding to a Christian YouTube by the name of Proverbs.
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  Who's concerned about me? Who's worried about me and my
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  well-being? Let's take a listen.
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  I'll be quiet until you ask for my take.
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  Cool. I'll hang back until you ask for
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  my thoughts. Sounds good, I'll jump in when
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  you ask. Hey everybody, Steven here with
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  Proverbs Guys Ministries. Thanks for coming by today.
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  I wanted to talk briefly about something I've gone over before,
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  but something that I just really feel could be benefited by re
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  examining again. And what I want to go over and
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  probably won't take long on this video, but I want to give a
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  shout out to a friend of mine, Brett Keene.
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  And the reason I want to give a shout out to Brett Keene is
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  because in my opinion, well, there's multiple reasons.
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  But for one thing, in my opinion, Brett Keene has the
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  most underrated testimony on all of social media, on all of
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  YouTube. And I have reasons for believing
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  that. It's not just because Brett is a
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  friend of mine, although he is. I consider Brett a friend, even
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  though Brett and I have had some troubled waters in the past.
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  I do consider Brett my friend. And the reason I think that his
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  testimony is underrated is because he's treated as if he is
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  the black sheep in the Christian faith.
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  And I can understand to a small degree why that could be.
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  So Brett is rough around the edges.
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  I'm one of the first ones to admit that he is absolutely a
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  little rough around the edges. I talk to Brett all the time
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  about his language, you know, I struggle occasionally with using
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  words I shouldn't use also, but Brett does it so freely it even
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  makes me blush. And I think maybe because of
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  that, Christians shy away from him.
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  They won't promote his content. And he's also stigmatized in a
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  way that whenever he does shows, he wants fellowship, he wants
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  engagement, he wants to socialize.
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  But Christians never show up. Or when they do show up, it's
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  for a brief time and then they go, you know, when Brett is
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  doing these types of shows, it would be very helpful if
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  Christians would go on and support him.
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  You know, we often go through Brett's channel and maybe we see
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  that he's got several atheists on there and they're cussing up
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  a storm. But Brett's panels are always
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  open. They're never closed panels,
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  ever. And if the Christians refused to
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  show up, Brett is alone on an island, so when the atheists do
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  come by, he's stuck engaging them by himself, often times
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  outnumbered. And it would just be nice if he
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  could get some more support, you know?
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  If more Christians showed up and helped have Brett's back, I
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  believe that it would take a lot of the roughness off his edges.
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  Now I'm the first one to tell you all that I'm not a big fan
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  of his cussing, but I still watch almost every video he
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  does. Maybe not the live streams
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  because they're longer, but all of his videos are roughly 20
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  minutes to 30 minutes. They're not long videos.
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  And you know, even if you don't sit there and watch it and you
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  just let it play in the background, that helps.
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  It helps him spread some of his content because we are under
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  utilizing Brett Keene. You know another thing I can say
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  about Brett Keene is 4 years ago when I was new on YouTube, and
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  I've said this before, I say it publicly as often as I want.
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  When I was new on YouTube, I had no help from the Christian
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  community. I had no assistance.
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  I also was alone on an island and Brett Keene took me under
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  his wing. Brett Keene showed me the ropes
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  of YouTube. Still with you, You know I was.
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  Very naive and I was overly trusting and Brett even taught
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  me some valuable lessons about not trusting people you meet on
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  social media. You know, Brett was a godsend.
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  You know, with or without The Dirty language.
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  Brett showed me so much about YouTube ministry and how to
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  engage atheists and how to provoke them into a
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  conversation. I'm here whenever you're ready
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  for. Things that I would have never
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  learned from top notch creationists or any of the
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  pastors. This is something that had to be
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  from Brett Keene because Brett Keene is a seasoned YouTube
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  warrior. You know, I have said many times
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  that Brett Keene was the original king of YouTube.
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  And I still believe that, you know, Brett had 10s of thousands
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  of subscribers on various channels multiple times.
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  And I realize in hindsight that doesn't sound like a lot, right?
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  It's YouTube in 2025. It's not that difficult to to
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  get thousands of subscribers. But what I want to remind you of
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  is that Brett Keene did this when YouTube was relatively new.
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  OK? So having 10s of thousands of
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  subscribers was a huge deal. It was gigantic.
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  And that was Brett. Brett was there through all of
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  it. Brett became a target for all
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  the big atheist groups because he flipped sides.
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  Brett had an encounter with the saving power of the Holy Spirit
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  and he met his maker. Brett Keene found Jesus, or
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  rather, Jesus found Brettt. That put a huge bullseye on
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  Brett Keene's back. And that bullseye has not gone
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  away. You know, to this day, every
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  time I go on one of Brett's streams, one of the drunken
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  peasant fans comes on, they start shouting N words, and then
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  they leave. And then as soon as they shout
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  the N words, they themselves go and report his videos for racial
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  slurs. They'll go and report his
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  channel for promoting hate speech when it was those
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  atheists who are actually making the report who said the hateful
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  things. You know, I've been on Brett's
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  shows for a long time. I've talked to Brett backstage
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  many times. I have never heard Brett Keene
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  use a racial slur. But they still target him as a
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  racially motivated person on YouTube whose channel needs to
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  be taken down because he harbors that sort of hate speech.
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  And that is a lie. That is a lie that makes me lose
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  a lot of respect for atheists because they themselves are the
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  ones propagating this type of disgusting behavior.
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  And yet then they will go report his channel for what they said
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  to try to get him off the Internet.
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  Atheists are terrified of Brett Keene.
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  If you don't believe that, go to the Drunken Peasants YouTube
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  channel. Look at their subscriber base,
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  look at their videos and see how many of their videos are
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  directly insults and attacks on Brett Keene.
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  Atheists hate Brett Keene because Brett Keene was the
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  biggest YouTube atheist that there was.
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  He was the king. Aaron Raw in his current fame
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  has nothing on Brett Keene. Brett Keene was the lead voice
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  for the atheist. He made Christians look dumb.
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  His arguments were, I hate to say, very good.
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  They were very wrong, but they were very good.
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  Now, the thing about Brett is that he does not back down, and
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  sometimes it would even be wiser for him to.
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  But that's not built into Brett Keene's DNA.
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  Brett Keene is wired in a much different way, a lot like
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  myself. If we see a noble fight and we
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  believe in it, we will take that fight on until the very end.
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  And there is nothing you can do to change our minds.
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  So when Brett had his encounter with the God of the Creator
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  universe, he became a Christian. He flipped sides and he
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  immediately turned his channel into a witnessing tool to try to
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  undo the damage he had done as an atheist.
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  And in all accounts, I think Brett Keene was successful.
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  I think he was successful. I think that's why the atheists
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  hate him so bad today. And that's why the atheists want
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  so desperately to keep taking down whatever channels Brett
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  Keene makes. That's why I want to.
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  I want to encourage and challenge believers on YouTube.
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  If you have a microphone and a headset and you have Internet
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  access, challenge you to support Brett Keene.
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  I challenge you to help disciple him.
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  I challenge you to befriend him. You know, it's hard to complain
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  that Brett Keene has all these conversations with atheists and
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  Satanists and all the like when we never show up.
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  You know, besides Smokey St. in TTOR and Myself and Praise the I
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  Am and a couple handfuls of others, Brett gets virtually no
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  support from the Christian community.
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  They won't watch his videos. They won't like his content,
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  they won't spread his content. And I get it.
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  I get that he's got the rough edges.
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  I've already said that. I also acknowledge his rough
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  edges. But it's really hard to knock
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  off the rough edges if you don't have that Proverbs 2717 type of
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  fellowship, the iron sharpening iron.
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  You know, if he doesn't have Christians to brush up against,
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  how is he ever going to lose those sharp edges?
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  So what I want to do with this video is 1.
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  Encourage Brett to keep going. I think his content is amazing.
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  I think he has the voice of a YouTube Angel and I think Brett
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  is one of the minor heroes in the faith because of his
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  testimony. Because he went from full
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  popularity and full support in making a fortune on YouTube with
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  the atheist to being slandered, lied about, harassed constantly.
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  His family has had death threats.
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  I would hate to spend a day listening to Brett Keene's
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  voicemail because I can only imagine what it is like.
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  I've heard horror stories about it before of the kind of things
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  that he gets, and it's disgusting.
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  And it would, man. It would break me and it would
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  break a lesser man. But Brett is not a lesser man.
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  Brett has the thick skin to take it.
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  So my call for Christians is to help him wherever we can go on
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  his shows. Invite him onto your show.
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  All right, so let me put this on here real quick.
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  How are you doing today? I'm doing great, thanks.
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  How about you? Feeling ready for this YouTube
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  adventure? Yeah, OK, so here's the deal.
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  Listen to me, a YouTube by the name of Proverbs Guy Ministries,
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  who I've talked to off and on for some time.
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  He cares very deeply about me and he's trying to help me out
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  on YouTube. Years ago, I went from being an
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  atheist to a Christian, and since then the atheist have
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  treated me like an apostate. They attacked me, they make
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  death threats. They tried to destroy my YouTube
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  channels. They raid my live shows and call
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  me all kinds of names and all that and use racial slurs.
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  And then on top of that they attempt to report me for what
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  they did in my rooms. It's basically a tactic or
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  strategy in order to knock down my account.
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  Mr. Proverbs guy. He points out that since all
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  these years have went by as a Christian, he refers to me as a
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  black sheep, as though the Christian community has
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  abandoned me. And one of the reasons that he
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  states is because sometimes I use foul language whenever I'm
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  talking, and he has suggested for me to work on that.
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  And believe it or not, even though I still use quite a bit
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  of cuss words, it's definitely a lot less than it used to be.
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  For sure. He believes that whenever I do
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  my live shows, because I do open panels, I'm surrounded by
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  atheists constantly with very little Christian support.
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  This was according to his assertion and his claim, and
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  there is some truth to it. I have felt like being a
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  Christian is a very lonely fight.
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  I feel like there's a lot of Christians who are so busy
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  arguing with each other as opposed to assisting each other
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  and being friendly and working with me in order to sow seeds.
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  I've always seen myself as a magnet for atheist and I've felt
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  like the service of a Christian is to support each other,
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  fellowship, and also be able to sow seeds to non believers who
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  are blind or can't see you know to be the guide for them.
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  Unfortunately most of the time I do find myself alone when
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  dealing with massive amounts of non believers.
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  There is however TTOR there's Proverbs guy and Smokey St.
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  These three have been very helpful, so as praise I am,
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  whenever he and I are not having issues with each other, these
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  men have assisted and they've helped, including Smokey Saint's
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  wife. Even before me and Smokey became
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  friends and all that, Lowe used to come into my room and she was
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  really cool, very respectful and she's a funny person, extremely
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  intelligent and a very blunt and honest person.
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  So what do you think after me giving you a summary of the
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  video? What are your suggestions and
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  advice? How should I deal with the
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  Christians and how should I deal with the atheist?
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  Go ahead. It sounds like you've been
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  carrying a lot, Brett. Being pulled in two directions
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  like that with the atheists staying true to your voice
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  matters. Don't let their noise drown out
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  your message. Maybe set some boundaries like
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  muting or ignoring the worst of it so it doesn't drain you.
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  As for the Christians, you might try reaching out more directly,
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  maybe a live stream just for them to build that fellowship.
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  What do you think would help you feel more supported by your own
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  community? So the problem is is that I have
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  actually created many live shows and I've invited everybody,
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  including Kristen's. I get Smokey, I get TTR, and
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  every once in a while I get praise I am.
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  Unfortunately, TTOR has been very busy for the last few
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  months working for his church, Smokey.
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  However, since he's gotten involved in his relationship
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  with LO, they're getting ready to get married and they're
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  interested in having a child. He hasn't been on as often
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  either. He's he's on, but not as much as
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  he used to. And then there's praise.
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  I am praise. I am is busy going after some
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  fake Christians out there who've been doing some very naughty
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  things. So he's too busy with his
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  friends dealing with hypocritical Christians out
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  there or self-proclaimed Christians.
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  So I find it difficult to find soldiers in Christ to work with
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  to help me or assist me with atheists who come in and want to
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  debate or have discussions. And unfortunately, a lot of the
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  atheists who come in, they only stay in for five seconds just so
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  they can scream some kind of derogatory term or nasty stuff.
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  Sometimes the shows turn out really, really good, and
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  sometimes they're just kind of boring because you get people
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  who just want to be nasty, say something ignorant or make a
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  false accusation. So I'm not really sure what to
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  do. I've reached out to everybody.
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  I'm not losing my faith or anything like that.
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  The Bible says that if you believe in Jesus, people will
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  hate you. People will be second by you,
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  they won't want to be around you.
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  That is what it is. By becoming a Christian,
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  converting away from atheism, I have been hurt financially.
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  I've also been hurt on viewership because I don't have
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  the same atheist group watching me because I'm a Christian now I
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  rely and depend on other people and other groups and
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  communities. Unfortunately, they don't seem
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  as though they're interested in helping one another.
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  Your thoughts? It's tough feeling like you're
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  on this island, Brett. Maybe the answer isn't in bigger
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  numbers, but in a smaller, tighter group.
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  What if you focused on those who do show up?
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  Maybe ask them what would make joining easier?
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  And with the atheists, could you turn their quick hits into
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  something roductive, like inviting the respectful ones for
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  deeper talks? How does that sit with you?
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  Well, it's a great idea. Unfortunately, I've already done
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  that. I've already stated, almost at
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  the beginning of every video I've ever done that the good
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  atheists are more than welcome to come in, that I am more than
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  happy to have open discussions with them, the Bates, if they
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  want to. Or we could just sit back and
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  shoot the shit. That's the problem, though.
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  That's where the catch is. They seem like they want to sit
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  back and make nasty videos as opposed to actually engage me
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  and interact. Maybe you've got to let go of
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  hoping they'll change. Focus on those who do engage.
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  Build a space where depth matters.
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  If they're just making nasty videos, let them.
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  Your energy's too precious. Does shifting your focus like
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  that feel right? I've tried all kinds of
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  different alternatives. To be honest with you, there's
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  probably nothing you'd be able to recommend that I haven't
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  already tried. And the people who are closest
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  to me? I do everything I can to make
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  sure I share their videos and like their stuff and make sure I
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  leave comments. Every time I see one of my
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  Christian friends, brothers, and sisters do a live show, I always
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  like it before it even starts because I know that they're
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  going to make quality content. They don't even have to ask.
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  But that's the that's the conundrum or the dichotomy that
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  I find myself in. I'd love to be able to have a
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  room where Christians come together and talk about their
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  testimonies and their lives. And I would like to be able to
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  have Christians, more Christians around me that can actually help
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  me with my behavior and also help me with more understanding
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  of the Bible. I still consider myself like a
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  student. I'm still learning every single
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  day, and I listen. Unfortunately, I don't have a
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  lot of Christians that I can go talk to and ask questions to
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  because they're either too busy fighting with other Christians
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  or dealing with an atheist on their end.
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  So it's hard to just hang out privately with people and chill
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  out in that type of way. They're always too busy.
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  They always got something on their plate.
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  It is what it is. I think I've become accustomed
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  to it. I think I realize and have
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  accepted my role in in the social media community of
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  Christianity. You've got a lot of insight into
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  this. Maybe it's less about fixing the
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  situation and more about honoring your role.
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  You're out there holding the line.
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  Keep connecting with those who do show up, and if you ever feel
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  the loneliness creeping in, remember it's OK to just be what
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  keeps you going when it feels heavy.
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  I keep thinking that even though the people who do engage me in
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  negative ways, although they may not be listening or pay
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  attention. I just remember back in the time
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  on Facebook or other social media sites where a non believer
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  might message me and say that my videos help them to find Jesus
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  Christ. Or I get a Christian who
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  messages me and says that I listen to your videos all the
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  time. I just don't leave comments or
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  say things because I don't want to be trolled by non believers
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  or attacked like you're getting attacked.
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  So quietly and privately, from time to time, people tell me how
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  my videos have benefited them. So I think about whenever I'm
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  doing my videos about those, I'm actually helping those I'm
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  getting through to, and I kind of ignore the evil.
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  That's powerful, Brett. Focusing on those quiet
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  victories keeps the heart in it, right?
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  It's like planting seeds. Sometimes you don't see them
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  grow right away. How do you stay connected to
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  that sense of purpose when the noise gets loud?
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  I think it would be a different story if it wasn't for my
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  beautiful wife and my fantastic kids that I have.
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  Once I turn my computer off and get away from all the noise, I
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  can sit back and watch a film, something good with my wife.
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  I can go to the movies, watch something like Spider Man or The
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  Avengers with my son or my daughter and I.
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  We like to watch ATV show called Strange Things and also like to
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  watch The X-Files and Supernatural and just all kinds
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  of stuff. My kids aren't really into
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  religious type films. So you know, they don't really
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  need to. Back when they were younger, I
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  had them watch Jesus and Nazareth anyway and they get it.
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  They know the point. They don't need to see every
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  remake that's been done about, you know, Moses or God or Noah
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  and things like that. But that's pretty much how I do
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  it. I and when I'm not doing that,
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  I'm working on music or I'm working on my website or I'm
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  doing blog articles. This Saturday I'm going to be
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  doing a show with TTOR, also known as Truth, The Objective
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  Reality. Are you able to see his YouTube
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  channel? TTO Rs channel.
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  Yeah, I've seen it. He's got a solid presence
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  talking creationism and apologetics.
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  Sounds like a great collab on Saturday.
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  How are you feeling about it? I'm feeling happy.
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  I always enjoy hanging out with TTOR.
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  He's a very positive person. I've learned a lot of Bible
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  stuff from him and also he's given me a better understanding
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  of things. Whether I agree with his
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  theological views and things or don't, at least I learn what
• 26:04
  other people are thinking and what their thoughts are.
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  The same with Proverbs Guide Ministries, Proverbs Guy
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  Ministries, although he tries to help me, he's been gone for a
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  very long time. He's been very busy and when he
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  is around though, he is a very kind and generous person, always
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  trying to help folks. So I do appreciate that.
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  Take a look at Smokey Saints Channel.
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  Smokey St. Can you check out his channel
• 26:30
  and tell me what you think? Smokey Saint's channel focuses
• 26:36
  on polemics, live discussions, and debates, mostly around
• 26:40
  politics and religion. From what I can tell, he dives
• 26:43
  deep into controversial topics with a straightforward style.
• 26:46
  Sounds like he's all about challenging ideas head on.
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  Have you collaborated with him before or just appreciate his
• 26:52
  energy from afar? Both I like to participate in
• 26:58
  the shows and I like to see the challenges that he does with
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  other Christians as well as non believers.
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  One of the things I like about him and TTOR as well as Proverbs
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  Guy Ministries, even though I don't ask them to do this for
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  me. I've never requested that they
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  defend me in any way but Proverbs Guy, TTOR as well as
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  Smoky Sink. They've always cared about me so
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  much that they feel the desire to be a brother and defend me.
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  Smokey's wife is also the same way, a beautiful woman who has
• 27:33
  also stood up for me repeatedly, as were a lot of other
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  Christians. They just stay quiet and they
• 27:39
  just pretend it's not going on. Or they might even crack a joke
• 27:43
  in order to breakthrough the ice.
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  But they're not very helpful. Not what you would expect from
• 27:48
  the body of Christ. I guess I should probably not
• 27:52
  expect anything from anybody, though, to be fair, we're not
• 27:56
  actually really biological family.
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  They're doing their thing. I'm doing my thing.
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  But yeah, I, I do appreciate that, that participation in them
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  actually attempting to go after some of my haters.
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  I don't expect them to do that consistently, but it's it is
• 28:15
  kind of funny whenever they do it.
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  They're actually very comedic whenever they RIP into people
• 28:20
  who are haters. It's nice when allies can
• 28:24
  lighten things up a bit. Sometimes humor is the best
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  shield. How's it feel knowing you've got
• 28:29
  friends who'll step in like that?
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  Well, whenever TTOR first did it in Smokey did it, it was it
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  shocked me because they they were like the lawnmower and and
• 28:43
  the haters were like the grass. He just rolled right over and it
• 28:46
  was like, wow. And it also made me realize that
• 28:50
  how much they cared about me, how much I, I meant to them.
• 28:55
  It was nice to know that I served as some kind of value to
• 29:00
  them. It's, it's, it feels good when
• 29:03
  your friends have your back and all that.
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  It's nice. I haven't had that kind of
• 29:08
  friendship for many years, at least in social media.
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  In real life, people are a lot different.
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  They behave differently and all that.
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  And you got the support of some family members.
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  But on social media, some people, they might tell you that
• 29:25
  they love you and care about you in private, but then they stay
• 29:30
  all quiet, like nothing's going on.
• 29:32
  They don't want any part of the conflict and they kind of leave
• 29:36
  you out there to dry. It must feel really validating
• 29:41
  to see that kind of loyalty. Friends who go to bat for you,
• 29:44
  no hesitation. That's gold.
• 29:46
  Makes all the nonsense fade a bit, right?
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  How do you balance the online stuff with real life support?
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  Well, real life support is a lot different.
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  Obviously, when you're feeling down or you're sad, you can just
• 30:01
  simply reach out and give your wife a hug or you do something
• 30:05
  nice for her, have a nice dinner.
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  Or you can, you know, ask her how she's been doing.
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  And you know, there's, there's the physical, you know, being
• 30:15
  able to have love in that kind of way and then having the
• 30:18
  awesome kids, that really helps. And also, I got a cool brother
• 30:23
  and sister and everything like that.
• 30:25
  We don't always get along, don't always agree on things, but I
• 30:28
  know that if my life is on the line, they would bend over
• 30:32
  backwards to take a bullet for me.
• 30:36
  That sounds like a real anchor, just knowing you've got people
• 30:39
  who'd literally take a bullet for you.
• 30:41
  That's rare. Real life love really does make
• 30:43
  all the online chaos seem small. How do you keep that family vibe
• 30:47
  strong? Well, when you know that someone
• 30:52
  loves you and they care about you, then that does everything
• 30:56
  in the world for you. You just love them back.
• 30:58
  You let them know that you got their back as well.
• 31:02
  That's how you build relationships.
• 31:04
  That's how that's how you know that you love someone when you
• 31:07
  actually show actions and and do something you know positive for
• 31:12
  them and let them know and remind them how beautiful they
• 31:15
  are and how wonderful they are. That's how you do it.
• 31:21
  Absolutely. Actions speak way louder than
• 31:23
  words just showing up for each other.
• 31:26
  That's the heart of any real connection.
• 31:28
  Does the online world ever get to you enough that you need to
• 31:30
  step back and reset with them? Well, it doesn't really shock me
• 31:37
  how atheists are. I've already determined long ago
• 31:40
  that they don't have objective morality or ethics, that they
• 31:44
  pretty much just their morals go wherever the wind blows type of
• 31:48
  concept. So atheists don't really bother
• 31:50
  me too bad. It's sad that I lost so many
• 31:53
  atheist friends whenever I became a Christian, how they
• 31:57
  basically, you know, walked away from me just because my
• 32:01
  worldview changed. That was, that was disturbing,
• 32:05
  but you know, it is what it is. Jesus Christ says that they will
• 32:10
  hate you, they will mock you, they will, you know, it is what
• 32:15
  it is. Yeah, losing friends over
• 32:18
  something so deep really stings. It's like they couldn't handle
• 32:22
  seeing a different side of you. Did you ever get a chance to
• 32:24
  talk with any of them about why you made that shift?
• 32:29
  Yeah, my friend Adam Lower, we're still friends, but when he
• 32:33
  first heard me tell him that I am moving over towards
• 32:38
  Christianity or the concept of God.
• 32:40
  I remember when we had our first conversation, he said what are
• 32:44
  you stupid? He said you're doing something
• 32:47
  dumb here, Brett. You realize the at this
• 32:50
  community is going to turn on you, right?
• 32:52
  They're going to burn you into the ground.
• 32:54
  But I told him this is what I believe now.
• 32:57
  I've had personal experiences and I feel like Christianity is
• 33:01
  more rational, logical. He called me a bunch of names
• 33:04
  and he didn't talk to me for months.
• 33:06
  But then he finally one day he came back to me and started
• 33:11
  talking to me again. And I found out that he had
• 33:13
  health issues and wasn't feeling very well.
• 33:16
  Since then, he has also converted to the belief that God
• 33:20
  exists. He's not quite like I am as a
• 33:23
  Christian, but he does believe in some spiritual sense of a
• 33:26
  God, so that's good. He and I have found common
• 33:30
  ground. That's a beautiful turn around
• 33:35
  from tension to shared understanding.
• 33:37
  Sometimes losing friends opens up room for deeper connections.
• 33:40
  How does it feel to walk this path with him now?
• 33:45
  Well, unfortunately due to his health issues I haven't got to
• 33:48
  speak to him as often lately. It's been probably about two or
• 33:52
  three months and from time to time he'll respond to me an
• 33:56
  e-mail and let me know that he's still alive and all that.
• 34:00
  But besides that, it's kind of off and on type of ordeal.
• 34:09
  Yeah, distance can make things feel uncertain.
• 34:11
  Just knowing he's still in the picture, even with those quiet
• 34:14
  emails, means something. How do you handle the worry when
• 34:17
  contacts that spotty? Well, like I said, I just, you
• 34:25
  know, I roll with that. I do what I got to do in life.
• 34:28
  You can't, you can't expect everybody to follow you through
• 34:31
  the dark forest. You know, you know it's, it is
• 34:36
  what it is. If you when you make decisions
• 34:39
  and you feel strong about it, then you got to keep to them.
• 34:43
  Whether people endorse it or support it, when you think that
• 34:46
  something's right, you have to be ready to make sacrifices.
• 34:50
  Sometimes the right thing to do in life will cost you
• 34:54
  friendship. Sometimes the right thing to do
• 34:57
  will cause people not to want to interact or participate.
• 35:03
  It is way it's always been. Sometimes people don't want to
• 35:08
  go that route. Some people have their own walk
• 35:10
  in life. Sounds like you've learned to
• 35:14
  walk that path solo when needed. It's a tough trade off, friends
• 35:18
  for faith, but you're still moving forward.
• 35:20
  What gets you through the lonely parts?
• 35:24
  Well, I remember and keep in mind that I'm not completely
• 35:28
  alone, that I have a extremely powerful and wise and loving God
• 35:33
  who endures me and as always there watching, listening and
• 35:39
  helping me through obstacles and challenges in life.
• 35:42
  Although the children of God may not be as assisting or as
• 35:48
  helpful as they could be, I still have God and that's I
• 35:52
  guess going to have to be enough.
• 35:56
  Sometimes it feels like just you and him, huh?
• 35:59
  That's a deep kind of strength. How do you keep that faith alive
• 36:02
  even when the silence feels loud?
• 36:06
  Well, you got to pray, you got to ask for God to give you the
• 36:10
  strength, you got to ask for God to give you the wisdom.
• 36:14
  And God tends to every single day lead me into some new
• 36:18
  information or some new way to be able to climb, to be able to
• 36:23
  make it. You just got to be patient and
• 36:26
  realize that God, He may not give you everything that you
• 36:30
  want, but He'll definitely give you what you need.
• 36:35
  Prayer and patience, those are real anchors.
• 36:38
  It sounds like you're tuning into those small daily signals
• 36:41
  like bread crumbs on the path. How do you notice those little
• 36:44
  moments when help comes through? Sometimes you'd have to be blind
• 36:50
  not to notice. Sometimes it's just right in
• 36:53
  front of your face. You just got to look.
• 36:56
  It's that simple. Just open your eyes.
• 36:59
  Sometimes it's just little things that lead into something
• 37:02
  big. It's hard to explain, but it's
• 37:07
  there. Sometimes I'll be looking on the
• 37:09
  Internet and I'll see some new science, technology or invention
• 37:13
  or some new philosophical point that is put forth that
• 37:17
  completely agrees and also adds to my repertoire of discussion
• 37:22
  and debates. And there's always something
• 37:25
  going on in the world that I can talk about and I can discuss,
• 37:37
  and that is that. And those little bread crumbs?
• 37:42
  They stack up over time. It's amazing how the universe
• 37:44
  seems to feed you just what you need.
• 37:47
  What's been one of the coolest recent finds?
• 37:51
  Well, Science recently put out an article that I planned on
• 37:55
  making a video about, but I guess I'll talk about it here.
• 37:59
  Science claims that they found evidence that there was a point
• 38:04
  in human history where a majority of the human race went
• 38:09
  extinct and that there was literally less than 1500 humans
• 38:14
  who had to repopulate the earth. The scientists believed that
• 38:17
  there was some kind of climate shift where there was a flood.
• 38:22
  It's scientific evidence that a worldwide flood happened.
• 38:26
  I haven't made a video about it yet, but this is the first time
• 38:29
  mentioning that there can be no denial.
• 38:32
  There can be no skepticism. It happened, and science proved
• 38:36
  it. Wow, that's a huge fine, Brett.
• 38:42
  The idea of humanity hanging by a thread like that really makes
• 38:45
  you think about how fragile we've been.
• 38:47
  What do you make of it tying into stories like Noah's Flood?
• 38:52
  It reminds me of what the world is today.
• 38:55
  You know, a lot of people, they think of Noah and the story of
• 38:58
  the ark and God saving the animals and his small family is
• 39:03
  some kind of ancient story. But when I look at the world
• 39:07
  around me, I see a lot of people who don't wish to serve God.
• 39:11
  They spit on God, they mock God, they blasphemy.
• 39:14
  I see the world becoming like it was back in the old days, and I
• 39:19
  believe that at some point in time, eventually God is going to
• 39:22
  return. But this time it won't end in
• 39:26
  water. It'll end differently in a
• 39:29
  biblical sense. That's a powerful reflection.
• 39:35
  It's like history echoes, and each generation gets a chance to
• 39:38
  choose. But seeing so much rejection, it
• 39:40
  must be tough not to feel discouraged.
• 39:43
  What keeps you holding on to hope for the people around you?
• 39:48
  You just got to hang on. What else can you do?
• 39:51
  You going to cry about it or you can be sad.
• 39:55
  Are you going to keep on trucking?
• 39:58
  My entire life is about survival from since I was a child.
• 40:03
  Things that can always go my way, but you'd got to see.
• 40:07
  I see life as a roller coaster ride with its ups and downs.
• 40:11
  You got to follow it to the end. There's no reason to unfasten in
• 40:15
  the middle of the ride and jump out just.
• 40:18
  Take it, go with it, take the punches and roll with it.
• 40:22
  That's life. Life is a roller coaster.
• 40:27
  You really just ride it all the way through, huh?
• 40:29
  No getting off early. How do you help your kids see
• 40:32
  that same resilience when they face their own ups and downs?
• 40:37
  They do, and they take their opportunities when they get
• 40:41
  them, and they go with what's positive.
• 40:44
  And if something negative is thrown their way, they realize
• 40:47
  that's just the way life works. If you can't go down one path
• 40:51
  and find another, but always try to make sure that that path is
• 40:55
  filled with light. That's what my kids have learned
• 40:58
  from me, and I think that they will survive just fine, even
• 41:01
  when I leave this world. That's a beautiful legacy,
• 41:06
  teaching them to find the light no matter the path.
• 41:08
  That's what really lasts. Do you ever worry about how
• 41:11
  they'll face the world after you're gone?
• 41:14
  Yeah, because the world can be unfair.
• 41:18
  It can be very scary, especially if you find yourself in the
• 41:23
  wrong environment or around the wrong people.
• 41:26
  So I've tried to instill wisdom and intelligence and strength
• 41:29
  into my children that way whenever I'm not around to
• 41:32
  protect them or be there or their mother, that they'll be
• 41:36
  able to navigate their way through the obstacles and
• 41:40
  challenges. So far, they're doing really
• 41:43
  well for themselves. I'm proud of them.
• 41:49
  It's a tough world, but you've given them the real tools.
• 41:52
  Just look at how well they're doing.
• 41:53
  When you see them handle something hard on their own, how
• 41:56
  does that make you feel? Even more proud because I know
• 42:02
  that no matter what, it's almost like I had foreknowledge before
• 42:06
  they were even born. I knew that they would
• 42:08
  experience a broken heart. I knew that they would
• 42:11
  experience people being mean to them and and being the way
• 42:15
  humans tend to be to each other. But they have gotten to
• 42:19
  everything. They've been victorious and
• 42:21
  every victory they have is also a victory for me.
• 42:27
  It's amazing how every little win they have feels like a win
• 42:30
  for all the effort you put in. It's like watching your own
• 42:33
  faith and hope reflected back in them when they share a success.
• 42:37
  What's your favorite part? Just this is the success itself.
• 42:43
  Just to see them accomplish something without needing their
• 42:47
  handheld or being told how to do it.
• 42:49
  They've become very independent. They they succeed and it's to
• 42:54
  the point where they don't require guidance all the time.
• 42:58
  They they can do it on their own.
• 43:00
  They've become extremely sophisticated, intelligent,
• 43:04
  loving adults. Just hearing it straight from
• 43:08
  you makes it real. That quiet pride when they're
• 43:11
  just doing their thing. Sounds like you've raised some
• 43:14
  truly solid humans. What kind of advice do you give
• 43:16
  them now? Or has it turned into more of
• 43:18
  them advising you? I just remind them to be their
• 43:22
  self. I One of the things I like to
• 43:25
  tell my children as well as well as my wife is that they are
• 43:29
  living proof of angels. They are living proof of the
• 43:33
  blessings and gifts of God. That's so beautiful.
• 43:40
  It's like every day with them is a reminder of grace.
• 43:43
  What do you think they'll carry forward from that?
• 43:48
  I appreciate the conversation that we've had, but I'm getting
• 43:51
  tired and I'm going to go ahead and end the conversation.
• 43:54
  I will talk to you later. It's been a pleasure Brett.
• 44:00
  Get some good rest. You deserve it.
• 44:02
  Talk to you soon. Go DTV Radio.