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From Collapse to Calling: Reversing Autoimmunity · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: Imagine collapsing on the bedroom floor after years of slowly
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Speaker 1: dying to autoimmune disease, desperately pleading with God for your life.
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Speaker 1: Our guest today experienced this firsthand and thought that this
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Speaker 1: event was the end of her story, but it turns
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Speaker 1: out it was only just the beginning. How did God
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Speaker 1: meet her right there on her bedroom floor and did
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Speaker 1: he answer her cries for help? What steps did she
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Speaker 1: take to go from death's door to helping others find
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Speaker 1: life and longevity. She's here to talk about all of
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Speaker 1: this and more right now. Hello everybody, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: Life TV Now, where we unpack all matters of truth,
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Speaker 1: faith and freedom. Today we continue a discussion that was
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Speaker 1: nothing short of absolutely explosive last week, and we were
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Speaker 1: just getting into territory that I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: you are going to be very interested in because it
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Speaker 1: talks about reversing autoimmunity through the lens of someone like
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Speaker 1: myself who's been through a lot of it. She's an
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Speaker 1: integrative nutrition health coach with a master of Science and
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Speaker 1: health education. Please welcome my co host, Jamie Woodle, and
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Speaker 1: she's a medical scientist with a master's in immunotoxicology and
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Speaker 1: her PhD Fellowship in Autoimmune Disease. Please welcome, Derenda Smith.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be impossible. I have the unfortunate
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Speaker 1: responsibility of trying to recap last week. How in the
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Speaker 1: world do you recap last week? If you missed it,
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Speaker 1: go back to wherever it is that you watch Life
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Speaker 1: the Skye mobile app where all of our programs are
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Speaker 1: placed weekly to keep up on what's happening here on
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Speaker 1: the program. But we just had barely scratched the surface
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Speaker 1: with your many years through what at the time was
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Speaker 1: a series of autoimmune diseases. But the irony was you
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Speaker 1: were studying as a scientist the modality and the functionality
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Speaker 1: of autoimmune disease, who it is that science speculates will
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Speaker 1: be encumbered by it, and then of course the medications
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Speaker 1: that are prescribed in what you describe as an inevitable
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Speaker 1: slow death. Essentially, once you've been the unfortunate one who
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Speaker 1: genetically acquires, let's say, an autoimmune disease, there are pharmaceuticals
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Speaker 1: here that can maybe help lessen some of what you're
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Speaker 1: going to be going through. But it's going to progress,
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Speaker 1: and you are probably going to die early. That that
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Speaker 1: was essentially what was spoken over you for years and
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Speaker 1: years and years as a young child, as you dealt
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Speaker 1: with chronic headaches that you said would leave you out
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Speaker 1: of commission for weeks at a time, sitting in a
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Speaker 1: bedroom with the lights out because everything is over stimulating.
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Speaker 1: And then you get into your twenties and thirties and
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Speaker 1: it's a hormonal cascade, and pretty soon it's fibromyalgia, and
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Speaker 1: pretty soon it's seven autoimmune conditions that are completely debilitating.
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Speaker 1: All the while you're on pharmaceuticals. And you arrive and
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Speaker 1: I'm doing this very quickly so we can get right
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Speaker 1: back into the moment where we had to stop last week.
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Speaker 1: But you arrive in this scene where as a scientist,
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Speaker 1: you believe that you've exhausted everything that there is to
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Speaker 1: know because you've studied with the brightest minds on Earth
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Speaker 1: about autoimmune disease. You've tried all of the medications, all
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Speaker 1: the tests, The brightest minds of the biggest machines on
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Speaker 1: planet Earth have looked at you, Dorinda, and you're going
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Speaker 1: to die, and you're trying to stave that off. There's
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Speaker 1: a moment in your bedroom where you collapse. You are
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Speaker 1: too weak to literally go to the restroom and get
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Speaker 1: back to your bed so that you can rest some more,
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Speaker 1: and you cry out to God, God, I'm a scientist,
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Speaker 1: There's got to be something. This just can't be my end.
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Speaker 1: I know all these things I literally signed up to
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Speaker 1: learn about this. How can I be dying? Is that
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Speaker 1: basically it? And you're on the TV. You make it
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Speaker 1: back to your bed. Now you're watching TV. On the
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Speaker 1: TV pops up a commercial for functional medicine ad dealing
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Speaker 1: with one of the prevailing autoimmune diseases that you had
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Speaker 1: been diagnosed with. You correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
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Speaker 1: recapping quickly so we can get right back into it.
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Speaker 1: You see an ad come up on the television that's
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Speaker 1: dealing with one of your prevailing autoimmune diseases, and they
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Speaker 1: offer something in terms of functional medicine. And for those
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Speaker 1: that don't know what I mean when I say functional medicine,
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Speaker 1: it is usually cam care and alternative medicine. So this
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Speaker 1: is not allopathic, this is not pharmaceutical. This is more herbs, lifestyle, diet, detox,
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, the kind of medicine that a
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Speaker 1: naturopathic doctor or a holistic health practitioner might suggest that
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Speaker 1: you try, and your initial reaction was, that's not for me,
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Speaker 1: because as a scientist, there's no place in academia for this.
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Speaker 1: Let's have you take it from there. God begins to
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Speaker 1: show you you circle back. About an hour. He keeps
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Speaker 1: tapping on the shoulders. Dinda, Derinda, go back and watch
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Speaker 1: this video. You started to feel a check in your spirit,
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Speaker 1: and rather than dismiss it, you did go back and
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Speaker 1: watch this video on functional medicine and its options for
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Speaker 1: you as a person. Once again, tell the audience at
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Speaker 1: home what this autoimmune condition that you were dealing with was.
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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit about what you learned in the video,
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Speaker 1: and it was the watershed moment that began your journey
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Speaker 1: to natural healing.
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Speaker 2: When I actually started watching the video, at first, I'm thinking,
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Speaker 2: and I actually said it out loud to the Holy Spirit.
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Speaker 2: I actually said, all right, I will watch it already,
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Speaker 2: and so I watched it. In the first five minutes,
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Speaker 2: they're showing scientific peer reviewed research, one after the other
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Speaker 2: after the other, after the other after the other, saying
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Speaker 2: this works, this works, this works, this works, this works,
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Speaker 2: all natural, all showing the root causes many of the
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Speaker 2: root causes of autoimmune diseases, not just scleroderma.
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Speaker 1: And scleroderma was the one that you were it was
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Speaker 1: one of the prevailing ones on top of fibromyalgia. That's
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Speaker 1: just tearing you apart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Initially, my first diagnosis was severe fibromyalgia with systemic sclerosis,
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Speaker 2: which is scleroderma, and then within about three years I
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Speaker 2: had deteriorated to a point where they had actually diagnosed
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Speaker 2: me with seven autoimmune diseases, including chrones, including loopus, including arthritis,
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Speaker 2: and Addison's disease, which was actually caused from the medication
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Speaker 2: that they gave me. But on this video, I'm seeing
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Speaker 2: all this peer reviewed research, and that's exactly what I
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Speaker 2: needed to see in order to understand that this isn't whoy,
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Speaker 2: this isn't woo woo, this isn't new age weird stuff.
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Speaker 2: This is actual science that is proving that there is
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Speaker 2: something else than what I was taught in school. And so,
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Speaker 2: of course it was within minutes that I just sat
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Speaker 2: back and I just went, oh, my goodness, Lord, I
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Speaker 2: cried out to you, and you just answered my prayer.
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Speaker 2: I just started bawling. I knew it in that moment
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Speaker 2: I knew, all right, well then I have to learn
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Speaker 2: everything I can do. And so within the next few months,
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Speaker 2: and I had to do this from my bed because
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Speaker 2: remember I'm like really, really sick. And I just went
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Speaker 2: back and did what I was taught to do as
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Speaker 2: a scientist and do a full meta analysis, but this
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Speaker 2: time on all the research, not just what we're trained
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Speaker 2: to do when you're in school. And I started noticing
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Speaker 2: that there was a pattern. There was a pattern, and
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Speaker 2: being a Christian, I started just putting two and two
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Speaker 2: together and realizing that, wait a minute, this really does
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Speaker 2: go back to the way God wants us to be
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Speaker 2: taking care of our bodies in the first place. Two
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Speaker 2: natural foods that aren't loaded with toxins. And please be
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Speaker 2: careful not to get me started there, because our entire
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Speaker 2: grocery store is just loaded with nothing but poison.
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Speaker 1: Pretty much.
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Speaker 2: It really is, yeah, pretty much pretty much. But really,
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Speaker 2: getting healthy does go back to that It's not all
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Speaker 2: about the food. But I started noticing that, yeah, it
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Speaker 2: has to do with your gut health. It has to
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Speaker 2: do with how the toxins that you've built up over
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Speaker 2: the course of your lifetime. You're not able to get
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Speaker 2: rid of those, and part of that might have to
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Speaker 2: do with particular genetics. But then I also started learning
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Speaker 2: that those genetics can even be overcome, that your genetics
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Speaker 2: really do change about every thirty seconds depending on how
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Speaker 2: you take care of your body, and just incredible things.
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Speaker 2: I was just and I started just saying, well, if
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Speaker 2: other people can heal, then so can I. In the beginning,
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Speaker 2: I was really scared, and I thought, okay, well, even
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Speaker 2: if it only buys me a little bit of time,
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Speaker 2: that I can get a little bit further and raise
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Speaker 2: Janna a little bit more. That Okay, I would be
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Speaker 2: an absolute idiot if the Lord dropped something like this
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Speaker 2: in my life and I didn't at least try it.
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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, and especially if you feel, as a
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Speaker 1: scientist you've done all the conventional approaches to dealing with it.
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Speaker 1: If you missed it. Last week you revealed your age,
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Speaker 1: but you said they had given you ten years to live,
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Speaker 1: and how many years ago was that?
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Speaker 2: So I was actually really ill for about fourteen years,
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Speaker 2: and so this is about nine years ago now when
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Speaker 2: I first had the revelation that there's something else that
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Speaker 2: we could do. So I did the meta analysis. I
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Speaker 2: started realizing I started seeing all these different protocols and
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Speaker 2: how to heal the gut and how to remove toxins,
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Speaker 2: and you know, how to eat better and how to
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Speaker 2: take care of your genetics very specifically, very precisely. And
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Speaker 2: I just said, well, all right, let's get started. And
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Speaker 2: the first thing I did was I started working on
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Speaker 2: my gut health because we raised goats, and I said, well,
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Speaker 2: I can make a natural raw goat milk keifer, and
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Speaker 2: I can drink it and just see what happens.
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Speaker 1: And for those that aren't familiar when you're talking about
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Speaker 1: a raw goat milk keifer, tell them what that is,
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Speaker 1: because you're going to talk, i'm sure next about probiotics, prebiotics,
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Speaker 1: gut flora and some of the benefits, but go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a keifer is just it's a very old fashioned.
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Speaker 2: You know, people have been using this for thousands of years.
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Speaker 2: It's raw milk with a healthy bacterial concoction that you
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Speaker 2: can make on your own, very very easily, very very cheaply,
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Speaker 2: and people have done this for thousands of years to
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Speaker 2: stay healthy. But we've lost that knowledge. Now today we
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Speaker 2: really have, we really have, and it puts the good
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Speaker 2: beneficial bacteria back into your system that you're probably missing
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Speaker 2: and that's why you're so sick, and so you put
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Speaker 2: that back in. Now here's what happened to me, and
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Speaker 2: everybody's a little bit different. I started noticing that I
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Speaker 2: was feeling better within about three weeks.
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Speaker 1: Which is very fast.
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Speaker 2: For contrast, Yes it is. It's very fast, Yes it is.
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Speaker 2: And honestly, I do believe that. Of course the Lord
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Speaker 2: was right in there, working in and through me. He
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Speaker 2: had a plan that I didn't even know existed, and
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Speaker 2: of course I'm sure he knew that I needed to
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Speaker 2: see some quick benefits. Otherwise I was probably going to
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Speaker 2: throw the whole thing out the window. And so I did,
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Speaker 2: and I was just amazed. And that was my first
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Speaker 2: little inkling. Actually, my friend who I lived with said
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Speaker 2: to me, she said, you know you're feeling.
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Speaker 1: Better, it's when other people see it, right, It's like
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Speaker 1: when you're gaining weight or you're gaining muscle, or you're
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Speaker 1: like you can feel nearly the same or a little
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Speaker 1: bit better or worse. But it's when others start to
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Speaker 1: see you've lost weight or you look better, you kind
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Speaker 1: of start to accept that. If it's visible, if you
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Speaker 1: can see this it's not psychosomatic.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, I am feeling a little bit better.
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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't night and day difference. Okay, when
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Speaker 2: you've been sick like that for a long time, you
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Speaker 2: can't have unrealistic expectations on your body. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of work people need to do to get their health back.
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Speaker 2: What I want to say so people don't feel afraid
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Speaker 2: of that is that the work that you do when
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Speaker 2: you're getting your health back, you feel so good about it.
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Speaker 2: You know that you're lining up with the latest science.
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Speaker 2: You know that you're lining up with God's truth, because
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Speaker 2: all good science is God's truth. Amen. Yes, And even
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Speaker 2: while you're going through the process of healing, you know
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Speaker 2: that you're doing the best you can to line up
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Speaker 2: with God and to steward this body that He gave
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Speaker 2: you and all that whole process. What I've learned in
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Speaker 2: taking care of others and what I've learned in going
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Speaker 2: through this process myself, is that there is no better
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Speaker 2: feeling in the world. Even when you're working on your
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Speaker 2: health and you know that it's a two step forward,
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Speaker 2: one step back battle, and you know, and you don't
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Speaker 2: always feel good while you're working on your health right.
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Speaker 2: There is no better feeling in the world, the knowing
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Speaker 2: that you're no longer going backward. You are aligning with
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Speaker 2: God and his design. You are being a good steward.
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Speaker 2: You know that God is working in and through you
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Speaker 2: to do something amazing, and you just have to live
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Speaker 2: in that faith. You just have to live there. You
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Speaker 2: can't let Satan lie to you and tell you that
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Speaker 2: you're incurable, that all this is a waste of time,
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Speaker 2: that you can't do it, that it's too hard. You
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Speaker 2: cannot let him lie to you like that, because it
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Speaker 2: is a.
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Speaker 1: Lie that is so profound. And if you're watching this
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Speaker 1: and you're thinking this sounds very generic, you know, listen
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Speaker 1: to the Lord. Don't let him lie. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you something. What she is telling you. Go back and watch.
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Speaker 1: If you've missed everything else, go back and replay the
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Speaker 1: last thirty seconds over and over again, because I'm going
14:53
Speaker 1: to tell you something. When I first left what I
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Speaker 1: call the Babylonian construct, and God began to show me
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Speaker 1: talking about me today, but we begin to show me
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Speaker 1: there is life beyond pharmaceuticals and surgeries. And they took
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Speaker 1: out half my call in and I'm almost dead and
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Speaker 1: I'm in my late thirties, and I remember my good
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Speaker 1: friend doctor Ralph who was a part of that origin story,
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Speaker 1: Josh Vance, doctor Josh Vance, Matthew SAMs, a guy named
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Speaker 1: Daniel Belt. He was starting to kind of surround me
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Speaker 1: with his tribe of naturopathic thinking holistic thinking practitioners. And
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Speaker 1: Ralph warned me right up front because I was very green,
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Speaker 1: I was very hopeful. And I'm telling you this as
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Speaker 1: a cautionary tale. When you are first introduced to holistic healing,
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Speaker 1: there's this moment of elation where you finally feel like
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Speaker 1: maybe you're going to find it right. Sometimes you'll see
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Speaker 1: those immediate transitions where people found the one supplement that
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Speaker 1: was the one thing. I see the smirk, and it's
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Speaker 1: because that might be one in five hundred people. Most
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Speaker 1: of the time it took you. Listen to me, it
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Speaker 1: took you a very very long time to get that sick.
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Speaker 1: Your body has been in a metabolic state of survival
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Speaker 1: for years, and you can introduce the right things, even
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Speaker 1: the things your body needs. The B twelve, the methyl
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Speaker 1: cabalomans you mentioned, kiefer so Biffidobacterium, lacto bisillis repopulating the
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Speaker 1: gut floor, all the things for hormones, and you've got
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Speaker 1: Ashwa Ganda and you're wanting the results. See, that's part
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Speaker 1: of the trick. We've been conditioned to expect when we
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Speaker 1: pop a pill or a supplement, that we're going to
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Speaker 1: get results right away. Amen, you're supposed to fix me, Doc.
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Speaker 1: I spent four hundred dollars on this whole pile. I've
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Speaker 1: been on this for six weeks. Here's the thing. There
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Speaker 1: is a process of detox that can take individuals a
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Speaker 1: very long time.
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Speaker 2: It took me two years.
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Speaker 1: I would say, I am still working on detalks nine
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Speaker 1: years post my Babylonian construct because of the constant barrage
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Speaker 1: from the sky and things that are beyond my control.
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Speaker 2: For the rest of our lives.
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Speaker 1: You will be forever. Most of the people will never
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Speaker 1: take a supplement for thirty days and being thank you
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Speaker 1: God if that's what the Lord would decide to do.
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. What I'm hearing Durinda say, and
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Speaker 1: I'm preparing you for the same thing Ralph told me.
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Speaker 1: He said, be ready for two steps forward, one step back.
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Speaker 1: He said, it's a literal healing crisis. And I said,
17:11
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's an oxymoron. What do you mean
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Speaker 1: a healing crisis? And you know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: I do. It is the hard, consistent, faithful work of
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Speaker 1: refusing the death speak, refusing the prognosis. I wrote about
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Speaker 1: this in my book called Unlocking Eden The Healing Crisis.
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Speaker 1: I said, you will likely take two steps forward and
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Speaker 1: then a step back. Doctor Ralph prepared me for this.
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing again, we're not talking about me,
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Speaker 1: because we're going to get into what you can offer
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Speaker 1: people in this program. I was on the phone one
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Speaker 1: day with Ralph and I'm like, I don't get this.
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Speaker 1: I'm having problems with gallbladder. I never even had that before.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute. So I started like this health train
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Speaker 1: and now I'm developing new problems. And he said, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no. Your body has been sick for years and
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Speaker 1: now you're going through the healing crisis. It is literally
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Speaker 1: going back now that it now it has the bandwidth
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Speaker 1: and the nourishment to fix these organs that have been
18:03
Speaker 1: under duress for longer than they've been alarming you. Your
18:06
Speaker 1: body was alarming you to the prevailing number one de
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Speaker 1: facto like red alert emergency siren nerd ner deal with
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Speaker 1: this thing called your colon. But now you're probably going
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Speaker 1: to revisit some spaces that are going to start barking
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Speaker 1: because your body realizes we could fix this now, we
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Speaker 1: could heal this now. And a lot of times with detox,
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Speaker 1: it's very painful, it's very nauseating. There's the hurt timer effect.
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Speaker 1: You can actually feel like you've got the flu if
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Speaker 1: you do it too fast for weeks on it, which
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Speaker 1: I did. I went cold turkey straight detox, tons of
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Speaker 1: dandelion root milhistled through the kitchen centific that's it, And
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Speaker 1: I mean it almost debilitated me. So I'm like, lord,
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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be in this other lane, what's going on?
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Speaker 1: I'm just as a cautionary tale. When you go back
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Speaker 1: and you listen again now with context to what Derinda
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Speaker 1: is saying about refusing to accept the death speak and
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Speaker 1: to never give up on the belief for your wellness,
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Speaker 1: don't take that as flippan yeah yeah, yea yeah, but
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Speaker 1: get to the supplements. That is such a mistake. Please
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Speaker 1: hear me when I say that, Yeah, yea yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: yah yeah, get to the supplements. You see that too,
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Speaker 1: in your practice, it's oh yeah, yeah, bye ba bah,
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Speaker 1: get to the supplements. It's because they're so wired. We
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Speaker 1: swallow a thing and it has a result. This is
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Speaker 1: not esoteric code language. I'm telling you very substantively lean
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Speaker 1: into what she's telling you, because part of the process
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Speaker 1: is also rewiring the way you heal and your expectation
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Speaker 1: of what that journey looks like. You've been sick, probably
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Speaker 1: for a very long time. This could be a minute.
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Speaker 1: Stay faithful, keep doing the things that nourish, make disease
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Speaker 1: have an insufferable, intolerant, hostile environment, and you will start
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Speaker 1: to see those gains, those dividends. Let's just disclaimer, with
19:40
Speaker 1: the amount of time we have today that you were
19:42
Speaker 1: never going to get through a personalized regimen for everybody
19:44
Speaker 1: with a specific automan condition that might be watching this program.
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Speaker 1: Let's fast forward to now that we've set the table
19:51
Speaker 1: on expectations today and I know this leaps like two
19:55
Speaker 1: more decades. We have no choice. Today. You have a
19:58
Speaker 1: thriving practice. Your testimony is a part of that. The
20:02
Speaker 1: people that you talk to understand that you're not just
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Speaker 1: a head, knowledge driven person that did some Google research
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Speaker 1: on autoimmunity This is years of watching it die and go,
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Speaker 1: and you're better and you've overcome, and now God has
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Speaker 1: given you years of evidence that you really are capable
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Speaker 1: now of understanding both the gut health parts of this
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Speaker 1: and where there might need to be a genetic test
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Speaker 1: that maybe help. And I know that we don't hang
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Speaker 1: our hats on every single one of these tests as
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Speaker 1: the de facto, but maybe parts of a pie chart
20:31
Speaker 1: altogether pointing towards maybe a protocol or a method for
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Speaker 1: someone in order to receive healing. You have a very elaborate,
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Speaker 1: very effective practice that helps people. And I want them,
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Speaker 1: if they're watching this program, that are like Joe, We're compelled.
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Speaker 1: You guys have told great stories. I believe where you're
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Speaker 1: at now. I can see the evidence if you knew
20:50
Speaker 1: me fifteen years ago of what God has done in
20:52
Speaker 1: your life. How do I get started? Maybe this is
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Speaker 1: your moment where you're on your bedroom floor saying, God,
20:59
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do? I've seen everybody, I've done everything.
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Speaker 1: There's got to be something. Maybe this is your something
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Speaker 1: D're in to. Please tell us where people can learn
21:08
Speaker 1: about your practice online and just give us a snapshot
21:12
Speaker 1: of how that would look my email. If I call,
21:14
Speaker 1: what would I expect in terms of onboarding and some
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Speaker 1: of the things that you would do maybe right away.
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Speaker 2: First of all, I just want to make sure that
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Speaker 2: I say that number one, you are not incurable. Number two,
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Speaker 2: you have not tried everything. Almost everyone who comes to
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Speaker 2: me says, I've done everything. I've done everything. And you know,
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Speaker 2: my pad answer is, den, why are you still sick
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Speaker 2: if you've done everything? If I drill down with them
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Speaker 2: and I say, well, have you tried this? And have
21:47
Speaker 2: you tried this? And it's not just a supplement, it's
21:50
Speaker 2: do you know what your level of toxicity is? That's
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Speaker 2: a test that you can have done in three weeks
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Speaker 2: from now. You can know exactly what your level of
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Speaker 2: toxicity is, which which is the number one reason for
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Speaker 2: your inflammation in the first place, that's causing all of
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Speaker 2: your chronic diseases. Okay, we know that this is basic science.
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Speaker 2: These tests are not that expensive. And if you can
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Speaker 2: afford to buy things for your house or you know,
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Speaker 2: go get a couch or whatever, or have an iPhone
22:19
Speaker 2: or a new TV or whatever, you can certainly afford
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Speaker 2: to allocate some of that money to make sure that
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Speaker 2: you take care of your health in a way that
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Speaker 2: is pleasing the Lord, that is being a good steward,
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Speaker 2: that is giving you the benefits that you need in
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Speaker 2: order to accomplish your purpose in life that he created
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Speaker 2: you for in the first place. How low, So yes,
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Speaker 2: you can afford it. You can get a toxicity test,
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Speaker 2: you can see exactly where your levels are. And so
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Speaker 2: what we do, let me let me just back up
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Speaker 2: a little bit. What we do is basically this, and
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Speaker 2: I hope that this it in a way that really
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Speaker 2: helps people out there. In order for you to heal,
23:06
Speaker 2: your cells first have to have everything that they need.
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Speaker 2: You're not gonna go into a battle without armor, without weapons.
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Speaker 2: And if you've been sick for a while, trust me,
23:20
Speaker 2: you have multiple cellular deficiencies, not just from the medication
23:24
Speaker 2: they put you on, not just from the food that
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Speaker 2: you're eating, but from your lifestyle practices and your genetics.
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Speaker 2: You have multiple areas at the cellular level where your
23:34
Speaker 2: cells simply don't have what they need to do their job.
23:38
Speaker 2: How are you supposed to heal with that one month
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Speaker 2: detox that they tell you about on the internet. If
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Speaker 2: your cells don't have everything they need to do the
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Speaker 2: job and so first of all, you need to see
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Speaker 2: what your cells have and what they don't have. Okay,
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Speaker 2: and that's again three weeks from now, do the test.
23:57
Speaker 2: The bottom line that makes it really simple for people
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Speaker 2: to heal is that your cells must have everything they
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Speaker 2: need in order to do the job, but at the
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Speaker 2: same time they cannot be overloaded with toxins. That means
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Speaker 2: toxins are up here. What your cells need to do
24:17
Speaker 2: their job is down here. In order for you to heal,
24:20
Speaker 2: you've got to bring the toxins down while you bring
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Speaker 2: what your cells need up. And right there, it doesn't
24:28
Speaker 2: have to be perfect, right, but right there is the
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Speaker 2: sweet spot where you're gonna get a lot of great results.
24:36
Speaker 2: Your body is actually going to heal because if you've
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Speaker 2: got everything you need and the toxins that are causing
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Speaker 2: the root causes are no longer there, Now your body
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Speaker 2: can do the natural thing called cellular regeneration that God
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Speaker 2: created your body with in order to heal you on
24:59
Speaker 2: its own. You've got to remove those toxins while you're
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Speaker 2: giving yourselves everything they need. And that's a process.
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Speaker 1: And it helps to know if you're dealing with a
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Speaker 1: heavy metal burden or something else because you know you
25:10
Speaker 1: may be dealing with pesticides. The reason it matters is
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Speaker 1: because there's this whole thing we don't have any time
25:14
Speaker 1: to talk about called keylation bindering removal, and depending on
25:18
Speaker 1: what it is you're encumbered by, that really tweaks the
25:21
Speaker 1: detox approach. So these shotgun blast livertytoxes that you maybe
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Speaker 1: have given up on, that might be why they've helped
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Speaker 1: with certain things a little. But if that wasn't your issue,
25:32
Speaker 1: you're not keylating bindering removing the right things. We are
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Speaker 1: basically completely out of time. But I know, Jamie, you're
25:39
Speaker 1: on this program with Dereinda, and you were telling me
25:42
Speaker 1: yesterday you're already learning new things about you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I have been on this health journey since twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty and it has been a lot of throwing spaghetti
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Speaker 3: at the wall. I read Joe's time Bomb Unlocking Eden,
25:55
Speaker 3: and that really opened my eyes to how I needed
25:58
Speaker 3: to clean up my diet and my life style. But
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Speaker 3: at a certain point, you get so close, you feel
26:04
Speaker 3: so much better, but there's still things. I still am
26:07
Speaker 3: on a natural thyroid medication, I still struggle with my weight,
26:11
Speaker 3: and so I have gone to Dory and she has
26:14
Speaker 3: helped me. We are still in the process of doing
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Speaker 3: some testing, but I recently got my genetics test back,
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Speaker 3: which showed so many answers to so many questions. I
26:24
Speaker 3: do have an mthfr mutation, which means I have to
26:28
Speaker 3: take methylated folate. I have issues with low dopamine. I
26:31
Speaker 3: don't get the satisfaction out of eating that other people do.
26:35
Speaker 3: I am highly prone to inflammation and highly prone to
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Speaker 3: having blood sugar and insulin issues, and as a lot
26:44
Speaker 3: of us know in this field, insulin resistance can be
26:47
Speaker 3: the first domino that falls on the path to metabolic disease,
26:51
Speaker 3: and I needed to know how can I go further.
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Speaker 3: It seems like the only way that I can lose
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Speaker 3: weight is to work out ten hours in the gym
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Speaker 3: all the time. I have to figure out what on
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Speaker 3: earth do I need to do to make things better,
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Speaker 3: And part of it is giving mysels what I need.
27:07
Speaker 3: And the next step we're going to take is removing
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Speaker 3: some of those talks. And so I highly encourage if
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Speaker 3: you don't know where to start, maybe consider instead of
27:15
Speaker 3: throwing spaghetti at the wall and taking all these supplements
27:17
Speaker 3: because hopefully something in there will help and it's hard
27:20
Speaker 3: to know which ones are helping. If you are feeling better,
27:23
Speaker 3: I really suggest that you look into seeing a practitioner
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Speaker 3: such as dor or someone that can do this individual test,
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Speaker 3: because we are bio individual people and we have very
27:33
Speaker 3: unique needs.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we're all out of time. Drinda, we have so
27:42
Speaker 1: enjoyed having you here again this week. We will do
27:44
Speaker 1: this again in the future. I promise Dernda will be
27:47
Speaker 1: back for everybody here in studio, everybody up here on panel.
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Speaker 1: Direnda Jamie, thank you so much for being here today.
27:53
Speaker 1: I hope that you learned something, and I hope that
27:55
Speaker 1: maybe for you, this was your bedroom floor moment where
27:58
Speaker 1: God is about to lift you up and ready you
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Speaker 1: for the future that He's already created for you. You
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Speaker 1: just have to be obedient and start walking through the steps.
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Speaker 1: I'm Joe artis Horn. Keep your eyes on deep prize,
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Speaker 1: which is Jesus Christ. We'll be back.