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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 20 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and
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Speaker 1: now a guy who's imminent trade rumors were completely fabricated
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Speaker 1: for the amusement of others. J P. Shi Rick, And
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Speaker 1: boy was it hilarious. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P.
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Speaker 1: Shadrick with the Jaguars analyst Jeff Logerman. Jeff, Good afternoon, Bud.
0:32
Speaker 1: What's going on all right? Good afternoon, j P. It's
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Speaker 1: a good day. The Jaguars got a good practice in
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Speaker 1: and uh, all seems to be well and football seems
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Speaker 1: to be going on. So far, so good, right, so far,
0:47
Speaker 1: so good. Let's continue that trend and get to the
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Speaker 1: season and get through the season. That's a long way
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Speaker 1: down the road, so we got a little bit of
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Speaker 1: time before we get that far. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 1: on the show today. Well, you heard the intro there
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Speaker 1: about the rumors in Gottway. Was the topic of those
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Speaker 1: rumors yesterday. We'll hear from Dave Caldwell coming up. He'll
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Speaker 1: quash those rumors. Important stretch of camp coming up this week.
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Speaker 1: This is really the heart of camp right now, to
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Speaker 1: figure out what this team is going to be. Defensive line,
1:19
Speaker 1: we've discussed some of the changes there over the last
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and what's the head offensive installation continues.
1:25
Speaker 1: It was a good day for the wide receivers and
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Speaker 1: we'll go around the National Football League. Tony Boselli joins
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Speaker 1: us AT for thirty. Yesterday, Michael Lombardi of the Athletic
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Speaker 1: tweeted to the trade of Unique and Gottway was imminent
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Speaker 1: and could come yesterday or today. Well, it hasn't happened,
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Speaker 1: and today g M. Dave Caldwell visited was serious XM
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Speaker 1: radio after practice today and he shut down those reports
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Speaker 1: of an imminent trade of Unique and got Way. The
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Speaker 1: unsubstantiated report really kind of caught me off guard. Two.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know where it came from or who
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Speaker 1: it came for him, but um, if he's being traded,
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Speaker 1: I wish somebody would let me know. Um. So you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously we've had discussions with teams, but there's uh as
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Speaker 1: of one o'clock today, Uh there, that report was pretty erroneous,
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Speaker 1: and I guess there's a couple of others that filed
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Speaker 1: up on that. So I don't know the person uh
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Speaker 1: that tweeted that, but obviously he didn't pay very close
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Speaker 1: attention in detail. Um, you know, obviously we're working with
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Speaker 1: the player and his agents, his new agents and trying
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Speaker 1: to come to a good resolution for everybody. Well, there's
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Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell bringing a little bit of heat today on
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Speaker 1: Serious Exit Radio ERRONEUS for Reports Slugs. What's new. Well,
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Speaker 1: I look, I mean, everybody's gonna try to throw something
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Speaker 1: and up on the wall and see if it's sticks,
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Speaker 1: you know, just because it is a topic, and it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a topic until one or two things happened,
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Speaker 1: either and Gaway has traded, or he reports to camp
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Speaker 1: and he plays for the Jaguars. But I think the
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Speaker 1: interesting thing for me that I took away from what
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Speaker 1: called Well said is that we've talked to teams, or
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Speaker 1: that we're talking to teams. I mean, look, that's the reality.
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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody that thinks that the Jaguars aren't talking
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Speaker 1: to teams is crazy, because they're gonna talk to everybody
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Speaker 1: and anybody that's willing to offer them something for in
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Speaker 1: gock Way because of the impacts that they have with
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Speaker 1: the player. And uh so, I don't think it's anything
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Speaker 1: news breaking. I don't think it's anything earth shattering. The
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Speaker 1: only thing about the that was erroneous about the report
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Speaker 1: was that something was imminent. I mean it's look, something
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Speaker 1: may happen. It may not happen for another week. It
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Speaker 1: may not happen at all. We don't know. But still
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Speaker 1: those things are gonna exist until those one of two
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Speaker 1: things happened. Either is in camp with the Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: signs as franchise tender, or he is traded and that
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Speaker 1: part of him being in camp. You know, maybe the
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Speaker 1: clouds have lifted little Nobody has been able to talk
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Speaker 1: to Unique to to figure out his mindset. But he's
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Speaker 1: got a new agent, a new representative. Now, um, maybe
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Speaker 1: that clears the air and things can come back down
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Speaker 1: to normal. There's at least a chance of that happening
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Speaker 1: with maybe the new representation likes well. I think there's
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Speaker 1: always a chance of that when you change agents, because
4:16
Speaker 1: you can lay a lot of blame on the previous
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Speaker 1: agent for not directing you in a proper way. I
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Speaker 1: think it was the best thing that could have possibly
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Speaker 1: done was to fire his previous agent. The way that
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Speaker 1: that whole thing was kind of came about with John's
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Speaker 1: comments on Twitter. John's comments on in a public form
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Speaker 1: all of those things were not the way that you
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Speaker 1: want to conduct your business, even if you want to
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Speaker 1: go somewhere else, because a lot of the things that
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Speaker 1: John did, actually I thought could have taken away from
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Speaker 1: his value and his tradability. So smartly was a smart guy.
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Speaker 1: Smartly to fire his agent, and now he's got new representation.
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Speaker 1: I don't know the reputation of his new agent, but
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Speaker 1: anything has to be better than the previous one. And
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Speaker 1: hopefully at some point there can be some type of
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Speaker 1: resolution to this, whether he's here or whether he's somewhere
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Speaker 1: else in the Jaguars get some type of good trade
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Speaker 1: value for him. Well, as of today at four oh
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Speaker 1: five pm Eastern time, it's status quo and the Uniquan
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Speaker 1: got way front even after all the news quote unquote
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Speaker 1: air quotes of the last day or so. Now a
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Speaker 1: long as let's get to training campus heating up. You know,
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Speaker 1: this is an important stretch for this Jags team. Six
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Speaker 1: consecutive practices starting today, and head coach Doug Marone knows
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Speaker 1: this stretch is vital for his football team. We are
5:48
Speaker 1: getting into a week where, uh you know, now we
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Speaker 1: go six straight days until um until the next day off.
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Speaker 1: So Uh, there's a lot of work ahead of us
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Speaker 1: this week, and it's a big week. You know. It's
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Speaker 1: a week that we've got to get you know, a
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Speaker 1: lot of situational work in. We've got to get a
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Speaker 1: lot of high contact in um you know. So it'll
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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a push this week as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, each and every day of getting better. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: looks this is this is where the rubber hits the road,
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Speaker 1: if you will. And camp, they've had the ramp up
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Speaker 1: period and pads, but at some point you gotta start
6:21
Speaker 1: putting in those situations. Today was really red zone heavy.
6:25
Speaker 1: You and I were both out there watching that, so
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Speaker 1: it was a situation. Last year this team really struggled.
6:30
Speaker 1: They finished thirty one in the league and red zone
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Speaker 1: efficiency and they made it an emphasis today. I think
6:37
Speaker 1: that anybody that's claiming that this is the tough stretch,
6:41
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a going a little bit too far.
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Speaker 1: I mean, training camp if you compare this to training
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Speaker 1: campsivold And I'm not trying to be one of those
6:53
Speaker 1: old guys saying that, Hey, look way back when when
6:56
Speaker 1: I played, it was so much harder. But training camps,
6:59
Speaker 1: certainly especially with COVID and the effect that that's had
7:02
Speaker 1: on training camp. This is a a much more milder
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Speaker 1: training camp, So to say that six days in a
7:09
Speaker 1: row is demanding, I wouldn't quite say that. It's it's
7:13
Speaker 1: gone that far now. The training camps certainly are much
7:17
Speaker 1: more than what they are. The practice have been certainly
7:19
Speaker 1: much more than what they've been over the last two weeks,
7:21
Speaker 1: and that they've ramped it up there and pads. They're
7:24
Speaker 1: going a little bit longer, but I mean they're on
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Speaker 1: the field for ballpark, you know, an hour and a
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Speaker 1: half hour and forty five minutes and that's about it.
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Speaker 1: And it's only one day on the field. So I
7:34
Speaker 1: think players should be able to stay fresh, and players
7:37
Speaker 1: should be able to avoid any kind of soft tissue
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Speaker 1: muscle injury. I think a lot of the the pounding
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Speaker 1: that you take from the old training camps are not
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Speaker 1: going to be there. So I think it's a great
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Speaker 1: set up. It's a great situation. I wish that the
7:52
Speaker 1: training camps had been like this for a longer period
7:55
Speaker 1: of time, And I think the players should feel like
7:57
Speaker 1: that they have every chance to show what their best
8:00
Speaker 1: is because they're not demanding a lot out of these
8:03
Speaker 1: guys as far as two day practices and full pads
8:07
Speaker 1: and everything else. So I think it's a comfortable pace,
8:10
Speaker 1: but yet it's a pace that I think that we'll
8:11
Speaker 1: get them ready for the regular season. Now, as far
8:14
Speaker 1: as today's practice, you know, yes, we were both out
8:17
Speaker 1: there today. I thought that today's practice was just okay.
8:21
Speaker 1: I think this team, but what you would expect, though,
8:24
Speaker 1: JP and what we expect, this team has a long
8:27
Speaker 1: way to go. This is a young football team that
8:31
Speaker 1: has a lot of unsettled positions and a lot of
8:33
Speaker 1: positions that have maybe even bigger question marks after the
8:36
Speaker 1: past week of events. So this team needs the reps
8:39
Speaker 1: and they need to take advantage of every rep that
8:42
Speaker 1: they're allowed to have between the agreement between the NFL
8:45
Speaker 1: and the nfl p A, are you trying to say,
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Speaker 1: logs that you used to walk to training camp uphill
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Speaker 1: both ways and the snow? Is that what you're trying
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Speaker 1: to say? No, I used to walk to training camp
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Speaker 1: both ways uphill and like the Sahara Desert, it was
9:02
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty degrees, didn't have shade, didn't have
9:05
Speaker 1: a water bottle. But I mean, come on, I mean
9:08
Speaker 1: these these practices that they're having now there and you've
9:12
Speaker 1: got you've got eighty guys. And so when you have
9:15
Speaker 1: eighty guys for a practice that is ballpark about an
9:19
Speaker 1: hour and a half, and I mean hour and a
9:20
Speaker 1: half now, and and a lot of that hour and
9:22
Speaker 1: a half is a lot of individual period, it's a
9:25
Speaker 1: lot of stretching, it's a lot of kind of walk
9:27
Speaker 1: through coaching type stuff. So, uh, this is I wouldn't
9:31
Speaker 1: say that this is a highly demanding training camp or
9:33
Speaker 1: a highly demanding camp of any nature. I think it's
9:37
Speaker 1: I think it's just right though. I mean, I'm of
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Speaker 1: the opinion JP and and I've been saying this for
9:41
Speaker 1: years that the training camps of old were just archaic
9:44
Speaker 1: and they didn't do anything to get teams. I think,
9:47
Speaker 1: and we got them ready for a season, but I
9:49
Speaker 1: think it also it detracted away from the player's health
9:53
Speaker 1: going into the season. I think that this is the
9:55
Speaker 1: way to do it, I think all the time. And
9:57
Speaker 1: I hope that they can adopt some of the rules
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Speaker 1: in ages going forward after this year, because I like
10:03
Speaker 1: some of the rules to day have instituted this year.
10:06
Speaker 1: You mentioned a moment ago that this team does have
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Speaker 1: a long way to go, and I think I agree
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Speaker 1: with you on that one. But there were some bright
10:13
Speaker 1: spots of practice today, and for me it was the
10:16
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Now, there were a couple of defensive
10:20
Speaker 1: backs out today. C. J. Henderson was under the weather
10:24
Speaker 1: with an illness. He was out, Ronnie Harrison's and the
10:26
Speaker 1: concussion protocol now he was not available on the field today.
10:30
Speaker 1: But that said, there was some spectacular playing by this
10:33
Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver corps today. Most notably and as you
10:37
Speaker 1: would expect, d J. Chark. He made a few great
10:41
Speaker 1: catches today, lives in traffic against the boundary, one on
10:44
Speaker 1: the sideline, one handed, another in the back of the
10:47
Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown in red zone. And he
10:49
Speaker 1: just showed you what he can do. But there were
10:51
Speaker 1: other guys that really stepped up to today in that
10:53
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. I thought that was a positive. Yeah,
10:57
Speaker 1: I thought that it was. It was a really good
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Speaker 1: performance by the fide receivers that I think doing large
11:02
Speaker 1: part because the play of the quarterbacks wasn't great today.
11:05
Speaker 1: I thought there were some balls that weren't very accurate
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Speaker 1: and the and the receiver has really had to go
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Speaker 1: and get it and make spectacular plays because the placement
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Speaker 1: of the ball wasn't particularly good. You mentioned d J Chark.
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Speaker 1: I think Dj is continuing to look marvelous. I think
11:20
Speaker 1: he's having a tremendous training camp and it's about what
11:22
Speaker 1: you would expect out of d J. Chark. Now, the
11:24
Speaker 1: one play that you're talking about where he was in
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Speaker 1: the end zone, he probably got away with a little
11:29
Speaker 1: bit of a push off on that play, but nonetheless,
11:32
Speaker 1: the officials aren't out there, it wasn't called. But Colin
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Speaker 1: Johnson I thought also had a really productive day. And
11:39
Speaker 1: you're talking about a drafted rookie that has a tremendous size.
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Speaker 1: He's what six ft six two plus pounds, and so
11:48
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a wide receiver of that stature,
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Speaker 1: when you get to the red zone, you expect him
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Speaker 1: to excel, to be able to take advantage of the
11:57
Speaker 1: size advantage that he presents and matchups, and I thought
12:00
Speaker 1: he did just that today. And that's what the Jaguars,
12:03
Speaker 1: I think we're expecting when they drafted him. I thought
12:06
Speaker 1: he had a really strong day. China continues to have
12:09
Speaker 1: really strong practices day in and day out, but I
12:12
Speaker 1: think he will really shine when the pads come on,
12:16
Speaker 1: because he's so physical and he's one of those guys
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Speaker 1: that can catch the ball underneath and then really use
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Speaker 1: his physical power to make plays and make things happen
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Speaker 1: after the catch. But yeah, I think overall, very productive
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Speaker 1: day for the wide receivers. But on the flip side
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Speaker 1: of that, JP very concerned about the tight end position though. Okay, yeah,
12:40
Speaker 1: it's a lot of changes there logs. Of course, effort's
12:43
Speaker 1: out there, but Oliver has done for the year. He's
12:45
Speaker 1: put on injured reserve. Today, O'Shaughnessy's coming off a knee injury.
12:50
Speaker 1: He still has the brace running around out there, so
12:53
Speaker 1: it's not what it was. Just really only a few
12:55
Speaker 1: days ago when they had, for the first time in
12:57
Speaker 1: a long time their full compliment of tight ends. That's
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Speaker 1: no longer the case. Yeah, losing Josh Oliver to I R.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, any time you're talking about a broken
13:08
Speaker 1: foot or a broken bone in the foot, that's one
13:12
Speaker 1: of the hardest things. I think an injury of the
13:15
Speaker 1: foot is very difficult to overcome because how do you
13:18
Speaker 1: how do you rest it? I mean, how do you
13:20
Speaker 1: get off your feet to allow things to heal and
13:23
Speaker 1: then you've got to work your way back slowly because
13:25
Speaker 1: you can't, like put only ten percent of the weight
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Speaker 1: on the foot. I mean, like if you're rehabing an arm. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna start out at ten percent. Well, when you
13:32
Speaker 1: step on your feet, you're carrying your full body weight.
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Speaker 1: So it's hard to recover from a foot injury. But
13:38
Speaker 1: that's a tremendous loss. And Tyler Eiffort is a guy
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Speaker 1: who they got in free agency, and we all know
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Speaker 1: that he has a history of not being able to
13:45
Speaker 1: stay healthy, even though last year he was able to
13:48
Speaker 1: stay healthy, but that's one of the few years that
13:50
Speaker 1: he's been able to do that in recent memory. And
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Speaker 1: so now you look at the depth that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: have at the tight end position. Okay, well, how about
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Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy. Well, he's coming back from an A c L.
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Speaker 1: And there were a couple of points in practice today
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Speaker 1: that I really saw James O'Shaughnessy. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say limping, but he was favoring that leg and not
14:11
Speaker 1: wanting to use it in a power position, which is
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Speaker 1: typical guys that are coming back from an A c L.
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Speaker 1: That takes time for them to get back to being
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Speaker 1: a dent and I think it's gonna take him even
14:20
Speaker 1: more time. And there were some drills that he just
14:24
Speaker 1: chose not to participate in or just said, hey, I
14:27
Speaker 1: need a break here, from the look of things. And
14:30
Speaker 1: then once you get past him, now you're talking about
14:33
Speaker 1: just a couple of guys that are are young. Charles
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Speaker 1: Jones is the second year tight end that they like
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Speaker 1: his blocking ability, and then you're talking about two rookies,
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Speaker 1: one from Georgia Tech, a draft pick, and another rookie
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Speaker 1: that this seems to be a little bit more athletic out.
14:48
Speaker 1: I think it's Central Florida. So I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: a young group and it's a group that has a
14:52
Speaker 1: lot of questions. And then even with just one injury,
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Speaker 1: it becomes even a bigger question mark plenty ahead. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna come back in a moment. We'll get into the
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Speaker 1: quarterback play a little bit. We'll hear from Gardner Minshew.
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Speaker 1: He visited with Sirius XM Radio after practice today. The
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19:09
Speaker 1: excited about the guys. First of all, you gotta have
19:11
Speaker 1: guys that are willing to learn and willing to work.
19:13
Speaker 1: And I feel like the mentality of this football team.
19:15
Speaker 1: Coach Maron does a great job of setting the tone
19:17
Speaker 1: for this team. And and these guys have come in
19:19
Speaker 1: and uh, they don't act like they know it all
19:22
Speaker 1: or had done they blah blah blah. They they're willing
19:24
Speaker 1: to learn and do things the way we want to
19:25
Speaker 1: do things now. Jaguars offensive coordinator last week in fact,
19:32
Speaker 1: discussing how far along they were in installing this offense
19:37
Speaker 1: and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour J P. Shadrick
19:40
Speaker 1: with Jeff Lockerman, Tony Boselli's coming up about ten minutes
19:44
Speaker 1: or so, and then at the top of the hour
19:47
Speaker 1: at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network, the Doug
19:50
Speaker 1: Moron Show. The head coach will join us at about
19:52
Speaker 1: five twenty today, So stick around there here on Tin
19:56
Speaker 1: Tin a M and Jacksonville at Jaguars on Social and
20:00
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com. Yeah, you know logs. This it's an
20:03
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic here. Obviously we've talked about this before, but
20:07
Speaker 1: it's worth noting again it's a new offense. They haven't
20:10
Speaker 1: been on the field at all in the off season,
20:13
Speaker 1: and they've come to camp with a ramp up period.
20:17
Speaker 1: They truly have eleven full padded practices lengthwise, right, they've
20:23
Speaker 1: had fourteen on the schedule, but there's a ramp up
20:25
Speaker 1: and I think the ramp up ended today. They start
20:28
Speaker 1: the full time tomorrow, so that's all they have to
20:31
Speaker 1: really install this offense. So there's has to be a
20:34
Speaker 1: limit to what you get in. You get the most
20:36
Speaker 1: important things in first, right, That's kind of that's how
20:39
Speaker 1: you have to approach this thing. Yeah, the meat and
20:42
Speaker 1: potatoes and JP. I mean when you're talking about Jay
20:45
Speaker 1: Gruden talking about them being in diapers, I mean, we're
20:47
Speaker 1: still in diapers. Were still learning about this football team.
20:50
Speaker 1: And you know, here's my little little depth chart that
20:53
Speaker 1: I put together every year and I'm so in diapers
20:56
Speaker 1: that I talked about Ben Ellison had had the tight end.
21:00
Speaker 1: One of the rookies is being from Central Florida. I
21:03
Speaker 1: cannot I cannot go let that slide. That's a North
21:06
Speaker 1: Dakota State guy. There's a lot of North Dakota State
21:11
Speaker 1: guys out there that would take great offense if I
21:13
Speaker 1: didn't get that right. But so we're learning the football team,
21:16
Speaker 1: the players are learning the offensive system. It's all part
21:19
Speaker 1: of the ramp up period. But the amazing thing is
21:22
Speaker 1: is that if the if this were a normal year,
21:26
Speaker 1: we would have been past the first preseason game already,
21:30
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of odd that we haven't seen
21:33
Speaker 1: anything even close to that or a scrimmage so far
21:38
Speaker 1: in training camp. Well, the offensive coordinator, Jay Gruden will
21:43
Speaker 1: have to lean on a second year quarterback in Gardner Minshew,
21:48
Speaker 1: who they're trying to develop all at the same time
21:51
Speaker 1: into a guy that can be a franchise type guy.
21:54
Speaker 1: That's the plan at least. Well Gardner Minshew today met
21:57
Speaker 1: with Sirius XM Radio, and not only is Gruden here,
22:01
Speaker 1: but Ben McAdoo is here now as well. The former
22:03
Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Giants. He's the quarterbacks
22:06
Speaker 1: coach now for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's working with Minshew
22:10
Speaker 1: every day. And of course Gardner also spent some time
22:13
Speaker 1: down in Naples this offseason. Coach McAdoo. He's been awesome. Man.
22:17
Speaker 1: He's he's been out of the game for a little bit,
22:19
Speaker 1: so he's so excited to get back. And I was
22:21
Speaker 1: so excited to work for him and learn from him. Um.
22:24
Speaker 1: You know, he's been around some great guys and I
22:26
Speaker 1: love just you know, kind of picking his brain. He's
22:28
Speaker 1: he's gonna help help me a lot, you know, whether
22:30
Speaker 1: it's footboard decision making, ball security, all that. He brings
22:33
Speaker 1: a lot of great experience to our room. Uh. And
22:36
Speaker 1: then with coach Ombrello down in Naples, UM, it's something
22:39
Speaker 1: I go doing the offseason with Michael Walker, one of
22:41
Speaker 1: our receivers here. Um, we go down and train with him.
22:45
Speaker 1: First off, getting faster with him. I think he's one
22:47
Speaker 1: of the great, you know, better speed guys I've ever
22:49
Speaker 1: worked with. Um. And then doing it whatever I can
22:52
Speaker 1: to give my arm as strong as possible. Um, you know,
22:55
Speaker 1: I realized I'm never probably gonna have a plus arm
22:57
Speaker 1: in this league, but there's things I can do to
22:58
Speaker 1: get better, and I feel like I have this offseason,
23:03
Speaker 1: Gardner mins you. That's our audio courtesy of Serious XM Radio.
23:07
Speaker 1: So obviously we've talked about the Garden are doing the
23:10
Speaker 1: right things in the offseason, going down to his side,
23:13
Speaker 1: coach down there to get some things right, you know.
23:16
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that the end there he talked about,
23:19
Speaker 1: you know, he may not have a plus arm in
23:21
Speaker 1: this league, but there are things he can do. What
23:24
Speaker 1: can he do to improve that arm strength? Well, I
23:29
Speaker 1: think I think there's a lot of things he can do.
23:31
Speaker 1: And I think when it comes to Gardner, because he
23:34
Speaker 1: doesn't have that quote unquote plus arm or great arm,
23:38
Speaker 1: the anticipation has to be there. The thorough understanding of
23:42
Speaker 1: the offense has to be there, and a great understanding
23:45
Speaker 1: of defense so that that allows you to have that anticipation.
23:50
Speaker 1: You know. Chad Pennington had a very successful career in
23:53
Speaker 1: the National Football League for quite some time, and he
23:56
Speaker 1: might have had the worst arm in the NFL in
23:59
Speaker 1: half a century. I'm not joking now, I mean his arm.
24:03
Speaker 1: We used to call him the lollipop guy because literally
24:06
Speaker 1: when he would throw the ball had so much arc on.
24:09
Speaker 1: It was like traveling around the circle of a lollipop.
24:13
Speaker 1: I mean, he was that weak. So if he can
24:16
Speaker 1: have success in this league, then Gardner Minshew can have
24:19
Speaker 1: success because his arm isn't like that. It's better than that.
24:22
Speaker 1: But there's definitely some things that he's gonna have to
24:25
Speaker 1: be able to be good at. You know, his height
24:27
Speaker 1: gives him a little bit of a disadvantage, so he's
24:29
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to function in the pocket,
24:32
Speaker 1: find open windows, to find the vision, to anticipate routes,
24:36
Speaker 1: to anticipate changes in defense. You know, Tom Brady is
24:40
Speaker 1: obviously the goat, and he's the greatest of all time,
24:43
Speaker 1: and one of the things that makes him great is
24:45
Speaker 1: his mind. When Tom Brady gets to the line of
24:48
Speaker 1: scrimmage and he's got a progression of let's say five
24:51
Speaker 1: guys JP, when by the time he gets the snap,
24:55
Speaker 1: he has already gone through his first and second progression
24:59
Speaker 1: when the ball all hits his hand under center, and
25:02
Speaker 1: then he's already working to number three, four and five
25:05
Speaker 1: one once he's got the ball in his hands, and
25:07
Speaker 1: that allows him to have great decision making. So Gardner
25:10
Speaker 1: Minshew needs to find a way to have the mental
25:13
Speaker 1: aspect of the game down, to allow maybe some shortcomings
25:16
Speaker 1: that he has physically but allowed to cover up for them,
25:20
Speaker 1: and to allow this offensive function at the best of
25:23
Speaker 1: its ability. Like today, for example, JP, we watched him today.
25:27
Speaker 1: He wasn't extremely sharp today. Some of the placements, the
25:31
Speaker 1: ball placements of the balls. If you don't have a
25:33
Speaker 1: great arm, okay that you can wing it in there,
25:36
Speaker 1: then you need to be able to put it in
25:37
Speaker 1: the position so that your offensive receiver can catch the
25:40
Speaker 1: ball and then get his body turned heading north and
25:43
Speaker 1: south as quickly as possible, something that he could have
25:45
Speaker 1: done a better job of today. Also the accuracy thing.
25:48
Speaker 1: So all of those things are things that he's going
25:51
Speaker 1: to continue to work on. And it's very early in
25:53
Speaker 1: training camp, and I'm not down on him whatsoever. I'm
25:56
Speaker 1: just saying that he's just like a lot of the
25:58
Speaker 1: other players on this roster. He's young and he's got
26:01
Speaker 1: things to work on. All right, let's come back. We'll
26:05
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26:08
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Speaker 1: last year I kind of felt like I was kind
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Speaker 1: thank you too much, not you know, not thinking too
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Speaker 1: lot more. Josh Allen today on sirius x M NFL
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30:16
Speaker 1: welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman,
30:21
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli joins us from another undisclosed location. You are
30:26
Speaker 1: on a streak of undisclosed locations, Tony, where is this one?
30:32
Speaker 1: It's none of your business, JP. No, I'm actually I'm
30:40
Speaker 1: at I'm at home right now. Uh so I'm sitting
30:43
Speaker 1: at the house. Oh well, that's nice to Uh yeah,
30:50
Speaker 1: it's not as exciting as the closed site that I
30:53
Speaker 1: was at last week room last time. Yeahs last Monday
30:58
Speaker 1: we had only in an undisclosed location. Is one of
31:02
Speaker 1: those c I a things where you couldn't see anything
31:05
Speaker 1: on the walls, and but all of a sudden, here
31:07
Speaker 1: comes the waitress in to bring him a cup of
31:09
Speaker 1: coffee in the middle of the show. What in the world.
31:12
Speaker 1: It was a nice It was a nice on this site,
31:17
Speaker 1: the nicest I've ever heard of. We just heard from
31:20
Speaker 1: Josh Allen there, of course, and you gotta love his mindset.
31:24
Speaker 1: Um loves you. And I were at practice today just
31:27
Speaker 1: talking about how he looks. First of all, he looks
31:30
Speaker 1: a little different than last year, just to the eye.
31:33
Speaker 1: But here in him, Tony, you know, this guy's locked
31:36
Speaker 1: a yeah, a lot, right, um, Tony, this guy is
31:38
Speaker 1: locked in, and he's a guy you can really build around.
31:41
Speaker 1: On the defensive side. Well, I think as you look
31:44
Speaker 1: at this defense and this whole team, actually you kind
31:47
Speaker 1: of want to ask yourself, where are the playmakers? Where
31:50
Speaker 1: are the difference makers who can take over a game?
31:52
Speaker 1: And I think Josh Allen is one of those. I
31:54
Speaker 1: mean watching the game tape work, I should say, the practice,
31:56
Speaker 1: they kind of going through some of the stuff that
31:59
Speaker 1: they've been doing, some one of ones. I was watching
32:01
Speaker 1: some team drills and everything else. Uh, he does look different. Um,
32:05
Speaker 1: he actually looks much more polished already early Jeff in
32:08
Speaker 1: his pass rush moves and what he's doing some one
32:10
Speaker 1: armed presses using his hands, getting on the edge. Uh,
32:12
Speaker 1: and even watching him in the h run drills, the
32:15
Speaker 1: team run drills that they're having. Uh, he's a powerful guy.
32:19
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he has all the components to
32:22
Speaker 1: be a great player. I mean, like, not just a
32:25
Speaker 1: guy who can rest the pastor and get double into sacks,
32:27
Speaker 1: which he's already proven, but literally one of those guys
32:29
Speaker 1: that you don't want off the field, that's every down player, um,
32:33
Speaker 1: that can change the game. Uh. And uh, I think
32:36
Speaker 1: we thought that we had that last year when we
32:38
Speaker 1: drafted him, and then after his rookie year where he
32:40
Speaker 1: really only played about four five of the stafs maybe
32:43
Speaker 1: fifty and put up the numbers he did. Um, I'm
32:45
Speaker 1: looking for a big year out of Josh Allen. Yeah,
32:50
Speaker 1: he's uh an absolute stud. And had a conversation with
32:53
Speaker 1: him today and was talking about some of his pass
32:56
Speaker 1: rush moves because I thought last year, you know, he
32:58
Speaker 1: got double digit sacks, but he got most of them
33:00
Speaker 1: just by being an athlete. And so I think it's
33:04
Speaker 1: very apparent that he's learning how to be a pass
33:06
Speaker 1: rusher and he's refined his body. For example, last year
33:10
Speaker 1: he probably weighed close to to seventy This year he's
33:13
Speaker 1: down around two hundred fifty pounds. He looks great, he said,
33:16
Speaker 1: he feels great, he feels fast, and I can tell
33:18
Speaker 1: you he looks fast and he looks great. And then tonight,
33:22
Speaker 1: JP just a little plug here on Jaguars All Access,
33:25
Speaker 1: our first TV show of the season, going to the
33:28
Speaker 1: film room and actually going to be breaking down some
33:31
Speaker 1: of these pass rush moves that Josh Allen has discovered,
33:35
Speaker 1: and we'll look back on some of the one on
33:37
Speaker 1: one pass rushes that he had from Monday and Tuesday
33:41
Speaker 1: this week and shows some of the folks how his
33:44
Speaker 1: moves have become a little top level. And Tony, you
33:47
Speaker 1: remember probably growing up watching the great Ricky Jackson, who
33:51
Speaker 1: was he's a Hall of Famer, played for the New
33:54
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. He was a left side out left outside
33:56
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Pat Swilling was on the opposite side, and
34:00
Speaker 1: Ricky had this power inside arm move and he could
34:05
Speaker 1: just take a plus pound offensive tackle back into the
34:08
Speaker 1: lap of the quarterback. Josh has found that he did
34:12
Speaker 1: that the Jawan Taylor on Tuesday. What I mean it
34:18
Speaker 1: was tremendous. I mean, what a great rush. So looking
34:21
Speaker 1: forward tonight's first Jaguars all access and then also looking
34:25
Speaker 1: forward to watching a great player this year and Josh
34:28
Speaker 1: Allen Now the question around him, there's many of them
34:32
Speaker 1: and and that's that's a cause for a lot of
34:34
Speaker 1: concern JP that let me pick up on that real quick.
34:40
Speaker 1: What Box you said is is because if you want
34:44
Speaker 1: to be a great pass rusher and put up the
34:46
Speaker 1: big numbers that we're talking about, Jeff, you have to
34:49
Speaker 1: get second and along a third and long. And I
34:52
Speaker 1: think the unknown or the question it's gonna be interesting
34:55
Speaker 1: to see is Candice team stopped to run? Can they
34:58
Speaker 1: create those long down and distance it stations? And that
35:01
Speaker 1: allowed Josh Allen to highlight who he is. Yeah, the
35:07
Speaker 1: all the changes in the interior this defensive line in
35:10
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. You know there's still the
35:12
Speaker 1: front line guys there, Avery Taven, Brian, those kind of
35:15
Speaker 1: names that you're gonna see. But you know they like
35:18
Speaker 1: to to rotate those guys in and you know that
35:22
Speaker 1: at least so far as just a little not a little,
35:24
Speaker 1: it's a lot unknown right now. Who those guys are
35:27
Speaker 1: gonna be in the next couple of weeks. Likes, Well,
35:30
Speaker 1: let me let me kind of circle back on your
35:32
Speaker 1: comment there, and you said, Hey, the front line guys
35:34
Speaker 1: are still there, and Avery Jones and Tavin Bryan, I
35:38
Speaker 1: would argue that they weren't going to be the front
35:40
Speaker 1: line guys. I think we have a nose tackle that
35:44
Speaker 1: opted out that probably was gonna be your best nose tackle.
35:48
Speaker 1: You had Rodney Gunter, who because of a heart condition
35:51
Speaker 1: has had to walk away from the game, and they
35:53
Speaker 1: gave an eighteen million dollar contract to That tells me
35:56
Speaker 1: that he was gonna be your guy. And I think
35:58
Speaker 1: his level of performing, it's what the Cardinals last year
36:01
Speaker 1: was better than that of what Tavin Bryan was able
36:04
Speaker 1: to produce for the Jaguar. So, you know, when you're
36:06
Speaker 1: talking about taking away frontline guys, and I understand that. Look,
36:09
Speaker 1: you know you've got some depth with Taven and you've
36:12
Speaker 1: got some depth with Avery, But look, I mean last
36:15
Speaker 1: year with those guys, you had an issue stopping the run,
36:18
Speaker 1: you know. So that's why they went out and they
36:20
Speaker 1: looked and tried to find a couple of guys to
36:23
Speaker 1: fortify that defensive front. So it definitely hurts this football
36:28
Speaker 1: team by losing a couple of guys of that stature, Kase.
36:31
Speaker 1: So now the question is what do you have that's next?
36:34
Speaker 1: What do you have that's available step up? Looking I
36:37
Speaker 1: like the acquisition of Timmy Journegan. I think he's a
36:40
Speaker 1: good football player, but it would have been nice to
36:42
Speaker 1: have him on top of, you know, some other guys
36:45
Speaker 1: that you were able to acquire. And I think when
36:47
Speaker 1: you start to look at depth at the other defensive
36:50
Speaker 1: end position, I think Smoot is a good football player.
36:53
Speaker 1: He's been depth in the past. Now he's expected to
36:56
Speaker 1: be that guy. Well, what do you have next? Is
36:59
Speaker 1: God's disabled step up? You know? I mean right now,
37:02
Speaker 1: from what I'm seeing out of Gots, this is he
37:03
Speaker 1: sees a guy or I see a guy that looks
37:06
Speaker 1: like he's kind of carrying a bad knee. So there's
37:09
Speaker 1: a lot of questions with this defensive front, and I
37:11
Speaker 1: think it's going to continue on until we get to
37:13
Speaker 1: the regular season where we can actually see some answers. Yeah,
37:21
Speaker 1: it's it's going to continue. Certainly the next week will
37:23
Speaker 1: be key to see who emerges from that group. You
37:26
Speaker 1: know today we're staying on the defensive line here. Caleb
37:28
Speaker 1: and Chase on had his first day on the field.
37:32
Speaker 1: He was off to the side at the start of
37:34
Speaker 1: camp with the hamstring ailment, but he started to work
37:38
Speaker 1: his way back in today. Uh quickly lives. What did
37:42
Speaker 1: you see at a Caleb on today first day out? Well,
37:46
Speaker 1: first and foremost the eye test. I was looking at him.
37:49
Speaker 1: I was going, wow, look how big his legs are.
37:52
Speaker 1: I mean, he literally his legs look big. And I
37:56
Speaker 1: remember watching his tape at l s U. I didn't
37:59
Speaker 1: see that big of guy. So I don't know if
38:01
Speaker 1: he may be gained a little bit of weight or something,
38:03
Speaker 1: but he's a little bit more heavy, heavy at the
38:04
Speaker 1: bottom end, but he's sudden, he looks powerful. I think
38:09
Speaker 1: he's gonna give them some great depth to go with
38:12
Speaker 1: Josh on base downs and then also going to give
38:15
Speaker 1: them a really nice outside rusher opposite of Josh obviously,
38:19
Speaker 1: unless the Angoquay situation is able to be rectified. So
38:24
Speaker 1: I like him. I liked this college tape. I think
38:26
Speaker 1: it's a great acquisition. But you know, he's a young
38:29
Speaker 1: guy that needs these reps and he's missed some time
38:31
Speaker 1: already and he needs to make up for some lost time. Yeah,
38:35
Speaker 1: and Jeffy, if you if you watched him at L
38:38
Speaker 1: s U as I know you did and I did,
38:40
Speaker 1: is well, he didn't look as big as he looked
38:44
Speaker 1: on the field the day. I just saw the videos
38:46
Speaker 1: and I watched the practice DAP later tonight. Is he
38:50
Speaker 1: was a powerful individual if you watch them play and
38:53
Speaker 1: how the physicality played with an L s U running
38:56
Speaker 1: around over the plates and he was actually pretty good
38:58
Speaker 1: at stack at the end of the line of scream
39:00
Speaker 1: and I think what he gives you. And if you
39:02
Speaker 1: look at the body type of Josh Allen, we talked
39:04
Speaker 1: about him and not taking any shots in Goquay because
39:07
Speaker 1: in Gockway is a great pass rusher. I mean we
39:09
Speaker 1: all know that. Um. The question is he's also a
39:12
Speaker 1: smaller individual, especially on the lower half, and he has
39:15
Speaker 1: to kind of play make you miss in the run
39:17
Speaker 1: game to be effective. Which guys will be able to
39:20
Speaker 1: do that. If you look at Chase On he's another
39:23
Speaker 1: guy that you feel real comfortable lining up and be
39:27
Speaker 1: either on the open end and be able to stack
39:29
Speaker 1: that tackle, play physical through the tackle's neck, and definitely
39:33
Speaker 1: against the tight end. I mean he is a powerful
39:35
Speaker 1: human being that is thick, some thickness to him. Um,
39:39
Speaker 1: that's gonna be able to play the run game effectively
39:41
Speaker 1: as well. Alright, guys, let's stay in the trenches here
39:46
Speaker 1: and for a few minutes. Tony, you're with us obviously,
39:49
Speaker 1: so let's talk offensive line here, tug moron than thank you.
39:55
Speaker 1: And in case you're joining us for the first time,
39:59
Speaker 1: Tony was Ellie is a noted left tackle in league history.
40:03
Speaker 1: Just as he'll tell you. So, I've done morone today.
40:08
Speaker 1: I talked about the offensive life and how and you
40:12
Speaker 1: know he doesn't want to heat praise yet, but he
40:15
Speaker 1: kind of did today again on this group as a whole,
40:18
Speaker 1: talking about how they've improved their strength, their athleticism. Technically,
40:23
Speaker 1: they're a little better at least in the early parts
40:25
Speaker 1: of camp. Here, Tony, I know you've watched some of
40:28
Speaker 1: the tape so far. I know it's you know, pajamas
40:31
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, and pad's only a few
40:33
Speaker 1: parts here. But they're confident in this group up front. Um. Yeah,
40:40
Speaker 1: I heard the comment. He says they looked better than
40:42
Speaker 1: they did at the end of last year. Um, and
40:45
Speaker 1: now he's watching the tape closer than I am, and
40:48
Speaker 1: he's seen him throughout the entire time of the tape.
40:51
Speaker 1: I've seen. It didn't stand out to me like I
40:54
Speaker 1: didn't turn on the tape and in eleven on eleven
40:56
Speaker 1: drills and see like in the run game within just dominating, UM.
41:01
Speaker 1: Did I see some good stuff some bad stuff? Yeah,
41:03
Speaker 1: but I think that's consistent what we saw seen in
41:05
Speaker 1: the past, Jeff during training camp, especially early, so I
41:09
Speaker 1: think it's way too early. I mean, I listen, I
41:11
Speaker 1: love that you have a head coach who's pumping his
41:13
Speaker 1: guys up and is trying to get the most out
41:16
Speaker 1: of him and being positive. There's no reason not to
41:19
Speaker 1: be this time of year. But for me, man, the
41:22
Speaker 1: proof is gonna be in the pudding. I want to see.
41:24
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be really UM an unproven commodity
41:29
Speaker 1: across the board for this team until you get to
41:32
Speaker 1: opening day because with no preseason and no live action
41:36
Speaker 1: UM to speak of. Uh, it's gonna be interesting to me.
41:41
Speaker 1: And listen, I've gotten it wrong in the past, Jeff
41:44
Speaker 1: and I got it wrong in seventeen where we thought
41:46
Speaker 1: this was an offensive line that was gonna struggle and
41:47
Speaker 1: they ended up leading the league and rushing UM and
41:51
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be better than they were last year,
41:52
Speaker 1: and they struggled quite a bit. So it'll be really
41:55
Speaker 1: interesting to watch and see. Um, you know, it's pretty
41:58
Speaker 1: much not pretty much. It is the same group that
42:02
Speaker 1: we saw all of last year. And so what you're
42:05
Speaker 1: hoping is that what Doug is saying is accurate that
42:08
Speaker 1: they've gotten stronger. I'm not sure how you get more
42:10
Speaker 1: athletic if you get older, um, but maybe you get stronger.
42:13
Speaker 1: But the technique, especially for some of the guys, and
42:16
Speaker 1: I'll speak directly to Cam Robinson um with his footwork.
42:19
Speaker 1: I did watch him in one on one. It does
42:21
Speaker 1: look like he's worked on it and there is some improvement. Uh,
42:24
Speaker 1: And so I'm hopeful, but we'll have to wait and see. Yeah,
42:30
Speaker 1: that's one of those where you gotta go see it
42:31
Speaker 1: under the lights to to really check it out against
42:33
Speaker 1: an opponent. Well, let me add this first off. This
42:38
Speaker 1: team needs the offensive line to take a step up.
42:42
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're talking about a defense that's going
42:44
Speaker 1: through a lot of changes, you're talking about a young quarterback.
42:46
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably the most important position group for
42:49
Speaker 1: this football team. This year, I think. You know. The
42:52
Speaker 1: interesting thing too, is that I don't know if you
42:54
Speaker 1: guys saw on the video stuff that we're watching these
42:57
Speaker 1: guys and a lot of people are probably wondering and
42:58
Speaker 1: looking at the video and what is that the players
43:01
Speaker 1: that most of the the offensive linemen are wearing it.
43:05
Speaker 1: It's like a padded exterior to the helmet that they wear.
43:10
Speaker 1: And if you go back to the uh great Buffalo
43:14
Speaker 1: Bills teams when they went to four Super Bowls and
43:16
Speaker 1: they weren't able to win one of them, they had
43:18
Speaker 1: a safety slash special teamer by the name of Mark Kelso.
43:22
Speaker 1: There was also a couple of other players in the league.
43:25
Speaker 1: There was a lineman for the San Francisco forty Niners
43:28
Speaker 1: that were it was it's like a pad on the
43:30
Speaker 1: exterior of the helmet and the offensive lineman, a lot
43:33
Speaker 1: of them are wearing this in practice, and I guess
43:35
Speaker 1: it's supposed to cut down on concussions or the the
43:39
Speaker 1: pounding that these guys take. But it's kind of interesting
43:42
Speaker 1: watching the video footage and you see these guys and
43:45
Speaker 1: for all you Flintstone fans out there, they look like Kazoo.
43:49
Speaker 1: You know, the pig makes their heads look like they're giant,
43:53
Speaker 1: you know, kind of out of proportion there a little bit. Well,
43:56
Speaker 1: I will say it is part of a league case
43:59
Speaker 1: study there working on two different types of these outer
44:03
Speaker 1: padded shell things for helmets to for the for the
44:07
Speaker 1: low impact contact. So it's it's a continuation of a
44:10
Speaker 1: study that's been going on off the field. Now they're
44:13
Speaker 1: bringing it onto the practice field. At least it will
44:15
Speaker 1: not be used in games this year. Um, but the
44:17
Speaker 1: way I understand it, they're just trying it out a
44:19
Speaker 1: couple of different models here, and I don't think this
44:23
Speaker 1: is the only team doing it. There are some other
44:24
Speaker 1: teams trying them out as well. So a good time
44:26
Speaker 1: to to try that out is always would you we
44:31
Speaker 1: would you wear one? Jeff me? Uh? When I was
44:36
Speaker 1: in my early twenties, no, but what I wear one now? Yeah?
44:41
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't think I would. I mean, you know me,
44:43
Speaker 1: I had the small pads. I like to wear as
44:45
Speaker 1: little as possible on the football field, but enough as
44:49
Speaker 1: it was already yeah my head, I had a huge helmet,
44:52
Speaker 1: dick skull. Um, I think I would have been Okay,
44:57
Speaker 1: they would need a custom size for Tony. Let's them
45:00
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45:04
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Speaker 1: doing really that that type of training or on the field,
48:41
Speaker 1: so I keep telling the players, I'm really concerned about that,
48:45
Speaker 1: uh that, and I want to make sure And now,
48:47
Speaker 1: because of the tears on what we can have here.
48:51
Speaker 1: We used to always have the officials at practice, you
48:53
Speaker 1: know where we can keep an eye on that. Well,
48:56
Speaker 1: we don't have them because you know, we can't afford
48:58
Speaker 1: to bring in Tier one people. You know, they just
49:00
Speaker 1: they're gonna do practice. So, um, we have coaches have
49:04
Speaker 1: been on it, you know, quite a bit. Head coach
49:09
Speaker 1: Doug Marone earlier today before practice asking about penalties and
49:14
Speaker 1: the approach this season in training Campbell come Back, Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, Tony Baselli, and
49:22
Speaker 1: that we all know that this team was penalized a
49:25
Speaker 1: good bit last year, certainly on the offensive line. So
49:29
Speaker 1: you know, he made the point today Tony that sometimes
49:33
Speaker 1: good teams get penalized a lot. I can go to
49:36
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but they are good enough in different
49:39
Speaker 1: areas to overcome penalties. If you have to really work
49:43
Speaker 1: to overcome the penalties and then you can't, that's when
49:46
Speaker 1: it can pile up on top of you. Not that
49:48
Speaker 1: you want the penalties to begin with. They get that,
49:50
Speaker 1: the technique and everything has to be right, so you
49:52
Speaker 1: avoid some of those. But that's a big difference, especially
49:56
Speaker 1: for a young Jaguars football team like this one. It's
49:59
Speaker 1: gonna be diff go to overcome a lot of those penalties. Yeah,
50:03
Speaker 1: there's not always a direct core correlation between penalties and
50:06
Speaker 1: the teams that make the playoffs. Fro missed the playoffs,
50:08
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I think that's what you're alluding to, JP,
50:10
Speaker 1: and you're right. Um, However, I don't think this team
50:14
Speaker 1: is explosive enough on the offense to overcome Uh. It's
50:17
Speaker 1: more difficult for them to overcome long down and distance
50:20
Speaker 1: or the thing if they get behind the chains. Um,
50:23
Speaker 1: they need things to be. They need to be working
50:25
Speaker 1: downhill meaning positive down a distance, which penalties really take
50:29
Speaker 1: you out of. UM. And defensively listen, you know, giving
50:33
Speaker 1: up easy artage when it's a team that hasn't made
50:37
Speaker 1: a ton of changes defensively if you really look at them,
50:39
Speaker 1: and they added Joe Showber to that front seven. Other
50:42
Speaker 1: than that is it in Chason it's a lot of
50:46
Speaker 1: the same people, um, and actually losing Calais and Marcel
50:50
Speaker 1: Darius who was there for the first half. And this
50:54
Speaker 1: is a defensive struggle to stop the run last year
50:56
Speaker 1: and they gave up chunkyardage and they gave up a
50:58
Speaker 1: big place, so you so what I'm saying, their margin
51:02
Speaker 1: for air is really a lot smaller than other teams,
51:05
Speaker 1: and so you can't impact that and help other teams
51:08
Speaker 1: out and be a highly penalized team. I think penalties
51:14
Speaker 1: are are first of all, you've got to kind of
51:16
Speaker 1: break them into two different categories to sit there and say, okay, well,
51:18
Speaker 1: we gotta eliminate this these types, and we gotta make
51:21
Speaker 1: sure that we are aware of these other types. The
51:24
Speaker 1: mental penalties you gotta eliminate, whether that be false starts,
51:28
Speaker 1: delay of games, things that you can control with just
51:31
Speaker 1: your mind. The physical penalties, Hey, look, if you grab
51:34
Speaker 1: a guy's face mask when you're flying a hundred miles
51:37
Speaker 1: an hour and trying to make a tackle in your
51:39
Speaker 1: hand gets his face mask by accident, that happens, you know.
51:42
Speaker 1: So I think as a as a coach, I'm sure
51:45
Speaker 1: that Doug wants to eliminate all those ones that you
51:47
Speaker 1: call the mental penalties and the aggressive penalties. Look, you
51:51
Speaker 1: just try to have a little bit more awareness and
51:53
Speaker 1: try to prevent them, but definitely as an offense, and
51:56
Speaker 1: those are the mental penalty. I think you talked a
51:58
Speaker 1: lot about now defense mental penalty A perfect example that
52:02
Speaker 1: might be lining up in the neutral zone if you're
52:04
Speaker 1: a defensive lineman or if you're a cornerback, but offensively,
52:08
Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that you don't have any
52:09
Speaker 1: of those mental bus because that, to me, that's what
52:11
Speaker 1: they are. They're mental bus or not just penalties are mental.
52:16
Speaker 1: Where would you categorize like late hits, personal fouls, that
52:20
Speaker 1: type of thing that's like totally unaware. Yeah, yeah, I
52:29
Speaker 1: mean that's there's no excuse for that. I mean that
52:31
Speaker 1: that's a mental penalty, but it goes beyond it. You know,
52:35
Speaker 1: there was a great running back who played for the
52:37
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. It used to say, hey, look, you gotta
52:40
Speaker 1: take care of your mentals. Well you could apply that
52:44
Speaker 1: to penalties when it comes to football, because you've gotta
52:47
Speaker 1: take care of all. Right, we'll see if the Jaguars
52:51
Speaker 1: can get that going. We'll hear from Doug Moron coming
52:53
Speaker 1: up in just a few minutes on The Doug Moron
52:55
Speaker 1: Show as well. Let's go around the National Football League, gentlemen,
52:58
Speaker 1: and start off with of the mandate coming down this
53:02
Speaker 1: week that there will be no sideline reporters or pregame
53:05
Speaker 1: TV reporters allowed on the field in. Not only that,
53:08
Speaker 1: no cheerleaders, no mascots allowed on the field either. They'll
53:12
Speaker 1: likely be in a different area of the stadium, first
53:14
Speaker 1: few rows of the stands most likely. And Tony, that's
53:17
Speaker 1: a big change, certainly for you. I mean, you're on
53:19
Speaker 1: the sidelines on Thursday night. How's that going to change
53:21
Speaker 1: your role? Actually, I'm not on the sidelines Thursday night, Joe.
53:25
Speaker 1: I've been in the booth frow about the last four years.
53:27
Speaker 1: But thank you, I'm on the sideline for the Super Bowl,
53:29
Speaker 1: so that'll be interesting to see what they do there. Um,
53:33
Speaker 1: so it's not gonna change my role at all. It
53:35
Speaker 1: will change Logs and Eyes prep though, because we usually
53:39
Speaker 1: prep and do a lot of work pre game on
53:42
Speaker 1: the field, talking to players and coaches, seeing the injuries. Um,
53:46
Speaker 1: guys who are game time decisions. I know, Thursday nights,
53:49
Speaker 1: especially when I don't I don't spend as much time
53:51
Speaker 1: with the teams. I go down on the field before
53:53
Speaker 1: the game, interact with guys. That's not gonna happen anymore.
53:56
Speaker 1: I mean, Logs and I wor to figure out the
53:58
Speaker 1: heck we do for an hour and a half. You
54:00
Speaker 1: used to spend on the field because I don't think
54:01
Speaker 1: they're gonna let us out there anymore. Yeah, that's a
54:07
Speaker 1: no surprise there. I mean, if you want to go
54:09
Speaker 1: ahead and protect your players, you've got to absolutely limit
54:13
Speaker 1: any kind of access to them in any way fashion
54:16
Speaker 1: that you can't. And so it just makes sense. Uh,
54:20
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other limitations that are are going
54:23
Speaker 1: on and then have already gone on, Like, for example,
54:25
Speaker 1: like right now says that broadcasters I can have a
54:29
Speaker 1: conversation with a Josh Allen like today, but I mean
54:32
Speaker 1: we were doing it from you know, ten plus feet apart,
54:35
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll just say, hey, make sure you
54:37
Speaker 1: stay there and I stay here. But you don't want
54:40
Speaker 1: to end up getting any kind of space violations. And
54:44
Speaker 1: and I think the league and the teams are very
54:46
Speaker 1: aware that any kind of possibility of having a player
54:52
Speaker 1: get COVID nineteen from some other chance exposure, they're gonna
54:58
Speaker 1: try to eliminate as many of the those possibilities as
55:01
Speaker 1: they can, and as they should. The league and the
55:04
Speaker 1: players Association, I think has done a great job of
55:06
Speaker 1: coming together and putting plans together and trying to make
55:10
Speaker 1: a map or or or some type of system to follow.
55:14
Speaker 1: And I think each team has done a pretty good
55:16
Speaker 1: job of executing it, because you have to try to
55:19
Speaker 1: keep the players safe and if the games are gonna
55:22
Speaker 1: be played without an interruption, as we've seen baseball, there's
55:25
Speaker 1: been a lot of interruption. You've got to make sure
55:28
Speaker 1: that you do everything within your power to make sure
55:31
Speaker 1: that there is no blow up with COVID nineteen in
55:35
Speaker 1: the league. Jeff, what are we gonna do? Well, I
55:43
Speaker 1: can tell you this. We're not gonna be hanging around
55:45
Speaker 1: a bunch of other people in the press box and
55:47
Speaker 1: eat press box food. If for me, uh, it's it's
55:52
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna try to stay six ft away
55:54
Speaker 1: from you. But I guess you know what, since you've
55:56
Speaker 1: already had it, maybe, yeah, interesting, So I'm sorry for
56:04
Speaker 1: the demotion there, Tony. I didn't the reassignment. Let's say
56:10
Speaker 1: Brown's cornerback Kevin Johnson had another player land on top
56:14
Speaker 1: of him at practice yesterday. No big deal, right, Well,
56:17
Speaker 1: he went to the he had a document injury. Yeah,
56:20
Speaker 1: it is a big deal because they sent him to
56:22
Speaker 1: the hospital as a precaution, where tests revealed that he
56:25
Speaker 1: had a laceration to his liver. Tony, what in the
56:29
Speaker 1: world that is a crazy one. Oh, that's a scary
56:32
Speaker 1: one because you start getting internal bleeding. I think it
56:35
Speaker 1: was a number of years ago. It was Chris Simms
56:39
Speaker 1: who actually lacerated his spleen and they didn't catch her
56:43
Speaker 1: right away and he, you know, could have died. Um,
56:46
Speaker 1: you said that. I remember on the Lebotard show, Tony
56:49
Speaker 1: you said, you said to Chris Simms, that was one
56:52
Speaker 1: of the coolest things he did play in football. Actually,
56:55
Speaker 1: to get the quote right, I said, it's the only
56:57
Speaker 1: cool thing he ever did on a football field. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's not very nice, but maybe true. Uh yeah, that's Uh.
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Speaker 1: It's one of those things. It's a freak, a freak
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Speaker 1: accident or freak injury that you just can't plan for
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Speaker 1: and you don't see it very often. And kudos to
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Speaker 1: the medical staff and the leaders in there on the
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Speaker 1: medical of the medical organization to take the crossing, to
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Speaker 1: go the extra step make sure the young man I'm safe,
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Speaker 1: because if that's something you miss, goes to bed at night,
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Speaker 1: goes back to the room. You know, you were worry
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Speaker 1: man what happens in the morning, And so you know,
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Speaker 1: thank god they caught it and hopefully'll be Okay, let's
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Speaker 1: move along now. Tyreek Hill left practice early today for
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs after catching a long pass from
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Speaker 1: our good friends had heading. He walked to the sideline
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Speaker 1: and talk to the training staff and then walked under
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Speaker 1: his own power inside did not return. Um. He's under
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Speaker 1: his own power, though, Logs. That's the good sign for
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, he is. In my opinion, he's the
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Speaker 1: most dynamic playmaker that there is in the league. And
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Speaker 1: uh and obviously he's a super Bowl champ. So anything
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Speaker 1: that happens to a Super Bowl champion player that is
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Speaker 1: of that magnitude, it makes big news, you know, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's amazing to me because you know, when I
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Speaker 1: when I saw that about Tyree Kill, it reminded me
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Speaker 1: about the story about Jalen Ramsey criticized in him a
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Speaker 1: little bit because he said he was just a kick returner. Oh.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, Jaalen. I think he's a
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Speaker 1: little bit more than a kick returner. I would agree
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Speaker 1: if the quote was yeah, yeah, there's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: He was a pro bowler as a kick returner. That's
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Speaker 1: what he said. Um. Finally, the final thought here, Alex
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Speaker 1: Smith practicing with the Washington football team competing for the gig.
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Speaker 1: How real can this be? Tony Well, I mean, listen,
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Speaker 1: I give the guy credit. We talked about it Monday night.
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Speaker 1: I mean I watched him and just saw some tape
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Speaker 1: of it. It still looks like he has a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a draw foot. Um. We saw Janalen Smith,
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys linebacker coming to the league and actually have
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Speaker 1: that drop foot and played the first year or so
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Speaker 1: before it all came all the way back, So there's
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Speaker 1: bracing that you can use, um to handle that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was just me visually what looking at it was
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Speaker 1: what it looked like. But it's a it's a tremendous story.
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Speaker 1: He almost lost his leg. Um, I'd give all the
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Speaker 1: credit in the world. A boy, I'd still be careful
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Speaker 1: because you gotta be able to protect yourself out there. Tony.
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