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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chapter eleven of My Experiences as an Executioner by James Berry.
- 0:06Speaker 1: This LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by
- 0:10Speaker 1: Ashley Jane, Chapter eleven. Hanging from a business point of view.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I have stated in chapter two the reasons which led
- 0:20Speaker 1: me to take the office as executioner. The reader will
- 0:24Speaker 1: remember that I then claimed no higher motive than a
- 0:28Speaker 1: desire to obtain a living for my family by an
- 0:31Speaker 1: honest trade. I'm not ashamed of my calling because I
- 0:35Speaker 1: consider that if it is right for men to be executed,
- 0:38Speaker 1: which I believe it is in murder cases, it is
- 0:41Speaker 1: right that the office of executioner should be held respectable. Therefore,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I look at hanging from a business point of view.
- 0:49Speaker 1: When I first took up the work, I was in
- 0:52Speaker 1: the habit of applying to the sheriff of the county
- 0:55Speaker 1: whenever a murderer was condemned to death. I no longer
- 0:59Speaker 1: consider it necess to apply for work in England because
- 1:02Speaker 1: I am well known, but I still send a simple
- 1:05Speaker 1: address card as above when an execution in Ireland is announced.
- 1:10Speaker 1: In the earlier days, I made application on a regular
- 1:13Speaker 1: printed form which gave the terms and left no opening
- 1:17Speaker 1: for mistake or misunderstanding of this form, I give a
- 1:21Speaker 1: reduced reproduction on opposite page. I still use this circular
- 1:25Speaker 1: when a sheriff from whom I have had no previous
- 1:28Speaker 1: commission writes the terms. The traveling expenses are understood to
- 1:33Speaker 1: include second class railway fare from Bradford to the place
- 1:36Speaker 1: of execution and back, and cab fare from railway station
- 1:40Speaker 1: to jail. If I am not lodged in the jail.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Hotel expenses are also allowed. As a rule, the expenses
- 1:48Speaker 1: are not closely reckoned, but the sheriff's frote a lump
- 1:51Speaker 1: sum which they will cover it, and if the execution
- 1:54Speaker 1: has been satisfactory, the sum granted is generally more than
- 1:58Speaker 1: enough to cover what I spent. There are, on an average,
- 2:02Speaker 1: some twenty executions annually, so the reader can calculate pretty
- 2:07Speaker 1: nearly what my renuneration for a work which carries with
- 2:11Speaker 1: it a great deal of popular odium, which is in
- 2:14Speaker 1: many ways disagreeable, and which may be accompanied, as it
- 2:18Speaker 1: has been in my own experience, by serious danger resulting
- 2:23Speaker 1: in permanent bodily injury. It will be seen that the
- 2:26Speaker 1: net commission is not, by any means an exorbitent annual
- 2:30Speaker 1: sum considering all the circumstances of the office, and that
- 2:34Speaker 1: it does not approach the amount which some people have
- 2:37Speaker 1: stated that I was able to earn. Of course, my
- 2:39Speaker 1: earnings are entirely uncertain, since they wholly depend upon the
- 2:43Speaker 1: number of executions, and this arrangement by which my livelihood
- 2:48Speaker 1: depends upon the number of poor fellows condemned to die,
- 2:51Speaker 1: is to me the most repugnant feature of my work.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It seems a horrible thing that I should have to
- 2:57Speaker 1: peruse newspaper reports in the hope that a fellow creature
- 3:01Speaker 1: may be condemned to death whenever I wish to feel
- 3:05Speaker 1: sure that business is not falling off, and that I
- 3:08Speaker 1: should have to regard as evil days and hard times
- 3:11Speaker 1: those periods where there seems to be laws in the
- 3:13Speaker 1: annals of crime, and when one might reasonably hope that
- 3:17Speaker 1: a better state of things was dawning in the land.
- 3:20Speaker 1: These considerations, and the more selfish but still perfectly natural
- 3:24Speaker 1: wish to be certain of my income and have my
- 3:27Speaker 1: ability to give my children a fair start in life,
- 3:31Speaker 1: have led me to strongly approve of the suggestion that
- 3:34Speaker 1: the executioner's office should be a government appointment with a
- 3:38Speaker 1: fixed salary instead of an uncertain commission. When the Lord's
- 3:42Speaker 1: Committee on Capital Punishment was sitting early in eighteen eighty seven,
- 3:47Speaker 1: I expressed my views on this matter in a letter
- 3:50Speaker 1: addressed to the President of the Committee, Lord Abadair. I
- 3:54Speaker 1: am not without hope that a change in the arrangements
- 3:57Speaker 1: for regulating the office of Executioner will ere long be made,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and the lines on which I think that it might
- 4:03Speaker 1: be most reasonably and satisfactorily done are set forth in
- 4:07Speaker 1: the letter to Lord Abadair, which I append one built
- 4:11Speaker 1: and Place City Road, Bradford, February eighteen eighty seven. My Lord,
- 4:18Speaker 1: I have been for some time past in correspondence with
- 4:21Speaker 1: mister Howard Vincent, MP for Sheffield, with reference to alteration
- 4:27Speaker 1: in the mode of remunerating my services in carrying into
- 4:31Speaker 1: effect the sentence of the law upon criminals convicted of
- 4:34Speaker 1: capital crimes. Mister Howard Vincent has suggested that I should
- 4:39Speaker 1: address myself to the Honorable Committee on Capital Punishment, through
- 4:44Speaker 1: your Lordship as their president. I would therefore respectfully point
- 4:48Speaker 1: out to your Lordship and your Honorable Committee that the
- 4:52Speaker 1: present mode of payment for my services is unsatisfactory and undesirable,
- 4:58Speaker 1: and that a change is needed, as your Lordship is
- 5:01Speaker 1: doubtless unaware. Under the existing arrangements, I am paid the
- 5:05Speaker 1: sum of ten pounds, together with traveling and other incidental expenses,
- 5:10Speaker 1: for each execution conducted by me. There are, on an
- 5:14Speaker 1: average roughly speaking, twenty five executions yearly. What I had
- 5:19Speaker 1: respectfully suggest is that instead of this payment by commission
- 5:23Speaker 1: I should receive the fixed salary from the government of
- 5:27Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty pounds per annum. I may say
- 5:31Speaker 1: that since accepting the appointment, I have never received less
- 5:34Speaker 1: than two hundred seventy in any one year. I am
- 5:38Speaker 1: informed that in determining a fixed salary or compensation in
- 5:42Speaker 1: lieu of a payment by commission, the average annual amount
- 5:46Speaker 1: received is made the basis for the calculation. It will
- 5:49Speaker 1: be apparent to your Lordship that an offer of a
- 5:52Speaker 1: less sum than the former average would not be sufficiently
- 5:55Speaker 1: advantageous to induce me to exchange the old system for
- 5:59Speaker 1: the new. I may, further, with your Lordship's permission, draw
- 6:03Speaker 1: attention to the peculiar social position in which I am
- 6:07Speaker 1: placed by reason of holding the office before referred to.
- 6:11Speaker 1: I am to great extent alone in the world as
- 6:14Speaker 1: a certain social ostracism is attendant upon such office, and
- 6:18Speaker 1: extends not to myself alone, but also includes the members
- 6:22Speaker 1: of my family. It therefore becomes extremely desirable that my
- 6:27Speaker 1: children should, for their own sakes, be sent to a
- 6:30Speaker 1: school away from this town. To do this, of course,
- 6:33Speaker 1: would entail serious expenditure, only to be incurred in the
- 6:37Speaker 1: event of my being able to rely on a fixed
- 6:39Speaker 1: source of income less liable to variation than the present
- 6:43Speaker 1: remuneration by commission alone. I am also unable, for obvious
- 6:48Speaker 1: reasons to obtain any other employment. My situation as boot
- 6:52Speaker 1: salesmen held by me previous to my acceptance of the
- 6:56Speaker 1: office of executioner had to be given up on that
- 6:59Speaker 1: account alone, my employer having no fault to find with me,
- 7:03Speaker 1: but giving that as the sole reason for dispensing with
- 7:06Speaker 1: my services. My late employer will give me a good
- 7:09Speaker 1: reference as to general character, and the governors of jails
- 7:13Speaker 1: in which I have conducted executions will be ready to
- 7:16Speaker 1: speak as to my steadiness and also my ability and
- 7:20Speaker 1: skill on performing the duties devolving upon me. In conclusion,
- 7:24Speaker 1: I should be ready to give and call evidence on
- 7:26Speaker 1: the points herein before referred, if it should seem fit
- 7:30Speaker 1: to your Lordship and your Honorable Committee on receiving a
- 7:33Speaker 1: notification to that effect. Under these circumstances, I trust that
- 7:38Speaker 1: your Lordship will be able to see the way clear
- 7:41Speaker 1: to embody in your Honorable Committee's report a recommendation to
- 7:45Speaker 1: the effect that a fixed annual sum of three hundred
- 7:48Speaker 1: and fifty pounds should be paid me for my services
- 7:51Speaker 1: rendered in the Office of Executioner. I have the honor
- 7:55Speaker 1: to be your Lordship's obedient, humble servant, James Berry to
- 8:00Speaker 1: the right Honorable Lord Abadair President, Capital Punishment Committee, Whitehall, London,
- 8:07Speaker 1: s w PS. If your Honorable Committee has an alternative
- 8:12Speaker 1: to the foregoing proposal, I would respectfully suggest that I'm
- 8:16Speaker 1: permanently retained by the Home Office at a nominal sum
- 8:19Speaker 1: of one hundred pounds a year, exclusive of fees at
- 8:23Speaker 1: present paid to me by sheriffs of different counties and
- 8:26Speaker 1: the usual expenses. In connection with this subject, I should
- 8:31Speaker 1: like to point out that in asking for the office
- 8:34Speaker 1: of Executioner to be made a recognized and permanent appointment,
- 8:37Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting any new thing, but merely a return
- 8:41Speaker 1: to the conditions in force not much more than fifteen
- 8:44Speaker 1: years ago. Up to eighteen seventy four. The executioner was
- 8:48Speaker 1: a permanently established and recognized official. Mister Callcraft, the last
- 8:54Speaker 1: who have occupied this position, was retained by the Sheriffs
- 8:58Speaker 1: of the City of London with a fee of one
- 9:00Speaker 1: pound one shilling zero pence per week, and also had
- 9:05Speaker 1: a retainer from Horsemonger Lane in jail. In addition to
- 9:09Speaker 1: his fees, he had various perquisites which made these two
- 9:14Speaker 1: appointments alone sufficient for his decent maintenance. And he also
- 9:18Speaker 1: undertook executions all over the country, for which he was
- 9:21Speaker 1: paid at about the same rate as I am at present,
- 9:25Speaker 1: but with perquisites in all case. In eighteen seventy four
- 9:29Speaker 1: he retired and the City of London allowed him a
- 9:31Speaker 1: pension of twenty five shillings a week for life. Mister
- 9:35Speaker 1: Calcraft's successor was mister William Marwood, who had no official status.
- 9:41Speaker 1: He had a retaining fee of twenty pounds a year
- 9:43Speaker 1: from the Sheriffs of the City of London, but beyond
- 9:46Speaker 1: that he had to depend upon the fees for individual
- 9:49Speaker 1: executions and reprieves. In his time, also there were considerable perquisites,
- 9:55Speaker 1: for instance, a clothing and personal property possessed by the
- 9:59Speaker 1: criminal at the time of his execution became the property
- 10:02Speaker 1: of the executioner. These relics were often sold for really
- 10:06Speaker 1: fancy prices and formed no mean item in the annual takings.
- 10:11Speaker 1: But the sale and exhibition of such curiosities were only
- 10:14Speaker 1: pandering too a morbid taste on the part of some
- 10:17Speaker 1: sections of the public, and it was ordered by the
- 10:20Speaker 1: government very rightly from a public point of view, but
- 10:23Speaker 1: very unfortunately for the executioner, that personal property left by
- 10:27Speaker 1: the criminals should be burned. In many other countries, the
- 10:31Speaker 1: post of executioner is permanent. In some cases it is hereditary,
- 10:36Speaker 1: as in France, where it has remained in the Diebler family,
- 10:39Speaker 1: passing from sire to son for a great length of time.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Even in British territory at the present time, a permanent
- 10:46Speaker 1: official hangsman is not entirely unknown. For in Malta the
- 10:50Speaker 1: post is a definite appointment to which a salary of
- 10:53Speaker 1: thirty pounds is attached. In England, the sheriff is the
- 10:57Speaker 1: officer appointed to carry out the exit executions, and though
- 11:01Speaker 1: he is allowed to employ a substitute if he can
- 11:04Speaker 1: find one, it would face him to personally conduct the
- 11:07Speaker 1: execution if no substitute could be obtained. In certain cases,
- 11:12Speaker 1: in days gone by, there has been great difficulty in
- 11:15Speaker 1: securing anyone who would undertake the unpleasant duty, though I
- 11:19Speaker 1: do not remember any recorded instance of the sheriff being
- 11:23Speaker 1: absolutely unable to engage in executioner end of Chapter eleven,
- 11:28Speaker 1: recording by Ashley Jane