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Gwalwa Daraniki Association chair and Larakia traditional owner Helen Secretary says youth offenders are playing the system and their parents need to be held accountable · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: As we know, there was a massive crime rally on
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  Speaker 1: the weekend attended by thousands of locals banding together to
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  Speaker 1: send a strong message to the Northern Territory government that
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  Speaker 1: more needs to be done to address crime now. Often
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  Speaker 1: we are contacted by listeners asking what elders, some of
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  Speaker 1: the traditional owners and indigenous organizations and what they are
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the situation around the Northern Territory right now.
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  Speaker 1: And well, joining me on the line is Helen's secretary,
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  Speaker 1: who is Laraki, a traditional owner and also the chair
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  Speaker 1: of the Galwa darren Inky Association. Good morning to.
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  Speaker 2: You, Helen, Good morning Cajie.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Helen.
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  Speaker 1: Did you attend the rally on the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I attended it for about an hour and I
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  Speaker 2: could see the outrage and the upset the people felt
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  Speaker 2: in regard to what happened to the young fella neck Glenn. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sad and how the government is dealing with these clients.
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  Speaker 1: How and from your opinion, what do you think needs
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  Speaker 1: to happen to stop the crime crisis that we are
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  Speaker 1: all grappling with.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm ashamed as a teo and custodian of Darwin
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  Speaker 2: that this is happening. I did have a conversation with
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  Speaker 2: our electric member back in December when I heard about
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  Speaker 2: the age for young juveniles that continue to re offend
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  Speaker 2: and about the anti social behavior. I had a meeting
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  Speaker 2: with her. I wasn't happy about their age increase. Like
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  Speaker 2: I informed her, what is going to happen with the
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  Speaker 2: eleven and ten year old children that roam the street
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  Speaker 2: break an entry, stealing and assaulting. They will be put
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  Speaker 2: on a juvenile diversion program where they have these bracelets. Now,
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  Speaker 2: like I explained to our electorate member who is also
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  Speaker 2: the Chief Minister, that this is where you're causing more
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  Speaker 2: problems by allowing these miners to continue to break the law.
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  Speaker 2: They know the system. They're playing the system because they'll
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  Speaker 2: get a flap on the hand because they won't be detained.
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  Speaker 2: Why the hell do we have a Dondale Youth Detention center.
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  Speaker 2: It is for juveniles and this isn't about color here.
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  Speaker 2: These kids are breaking the law. And like they expressed
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  Speaker 2: to her, I know a couple of kids that are
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  Speaker 2: on the juvenile diversion program. They have the bracelet. But
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when are the parents
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  Speaker 2: going to be held accountable for their children's actions. I
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  Speaker 2: know where my kid and my grandkids are at night,
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  Speaker 2: and during the day, they are at school, at night
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  Speaker 2: they are at home. These parents are getting away with
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  Speaker 2: dealing with their kids that breaking the law. And I
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  Speaker 2: know it's not an overnight fixer, but I did express
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  Speaker 2: my concerns to our electorate member ye that this isn't
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  Speaker 2: going to work now if the parents aren't going to
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  Speaker 2: be held accountable, Like she expressed to me that family
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  Speaker 2: and community services are working with the parents, Well, hang on,
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  Speaker 2: why aren't the parents being held accountable? You know, if
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  Speaker 2: you have dysfunctional parents that receive centraling funding for their
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  Speaker 2: dependence and themselves instead of enjoying their life, quarantining all
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  Speaker 2: the money in their basic card to prioritize with looking
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  Speaker 2: after their kids. I have friends that own businesses, my kids'
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  Speaker 2: own businesses. People that live in their homes should feel
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  Speaker 2: safe at night. Their kids should be allowed to walk
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  Speaker 2: around freely, to go to the movies, to go to
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  Speaker 2: a shopping center, to go to a library with out
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  Speaker 2: being assaulted by this little group of juveniles. I felt
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  Speaker 2: really angered four weeks ago when this business owner that
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  Speaker 2: I've been dealing with since he's opened his business at
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  Speaker 2: the Woolworks complex, opened a lot of business and Williams
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  Speaker 2: he came to my house at color and asked how
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  Speaker 2: can I help him? He showed me photos of these
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  Speaker 2: little juveniles at around the age of ten and eleven,
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  Speaker 2: broke into his shop, assaulted him, stole his kill with
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  Speaker 2: one thousand dollars cash, which they weren't worried about the money,
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  Speaker 2: reported it to the police. The police investigating it. But
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  Speaker 2: how were they supposed to protect themselves? Like I explained
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  Speaker 2: to him my understanding of the law, if someone assaults you,
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  Speaker 2: you are allowed to protect yourself in a certain extent.
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  Speaker 2: But these are little His said, these are little kids. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they've also threatened that they're going to smash my
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  Speaker 2: bus if I report it to the police. What I have?
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  Speaker 2: You know, things like that. People are approaching me that
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  Speaker 2: own businesses, people that live in normal houses, that are
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  Speaker 2: normal people, normal families that don't have businesses, approaching me
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  Speaker 2: to see how can I help them. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 2: it's sad.
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  Speaker 1: Helen, You said sad. You sound sad, and you also
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  Speaker 1: sound really fed up, like you just want things to
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  Speaker 1: you know, there to be safety. You want people to respect.
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  Speaker 1: You want people to respect the land where we live.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing why old people used to allow.
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  Speaker 2: And this isn't about color here, Katie no and my
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  Speaker 2: old larch here people accepted countrymen from everywhere yep. But
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  Speaker 2: Darwin was never like this. Never. This is shameful. It
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  Speaker 2: is sad what I see from our Indigenous people. And
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  Speaker 2: it's the way what is happening in Darwin. And I
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  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of anger and frustration by Darwin Knights,
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  Speaker 2: by people in Palmistan, by people and alice in the territory.
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  Speaker 2: Enough is enough? Why do we have a law? We
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  Speaker 2: have Holt's Prison for adult people that break the law.
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  Speaker 2: We have a don Dale Youth Detention Center. I don't
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  Speaker 2: agree with people that advocate for these poor little kids
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  Speaker 2: that are ten being locked up. Well, where the hell
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  Speaker 2: are the parents? How can the parents don't know where
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  Speaker 2: their kids are? What they break in an entry, assaulting people,
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  Speaker 2: stealing cars. That's not fair on the Darwin people. It's
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  Speaker 2: not fair on the territory and people. Helen, I recommend
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  Speaker 2: invigenous woman. Yeah, I know, and you know, look.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon there's going to be a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: listening this morning who are thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Helen.
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  Speaker 1: You know you are standing up right now and you
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  Speaker 1: are saying what a lot of people have been too
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  Speaker 1: scared to say.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, Like I said, it's not about color. You break,
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  Speaker 2: you do the crime, crime, you do the time, whether
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  Speaker 2: you're a juvenile or an adult. You know, I've listened
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  Speaker 2: to some of the recordings this morning when you interview
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  Speaker 2: the Chief Ministry. Now, I've had discussions with her back
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  Speaker 2: in December about this, and we're supposed to catch up
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  Speaker 2: and discuss it further. Now at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about the votes for your party. I've dealt
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  Speaker 2: with all levels of government and various issues, but this
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  Speaker 2: is very serious. It is very serious.
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  Speaker 1: It's our safety.
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  Speaker 2: It's about safety. I wouldn't like stud under walk into
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  Speaker 2: my home at night while I'm in bed. I know
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  Speaker 2: an incident of a a member that a neighbor that
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  Speaker 2: lives in coconut growth. She was a think with her
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  Speaker 2: two kids, too young juvenile defend teenagers actually went into
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  Speaker 2: a property who items stole her car and she's too
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  Speaker 2: scared to sleep at night. Now, come on, it is out.
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  Speaker 1: Of control, yeah, Helen, Some.
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  Speaker 2: Of these kids and adults are breaking the law need
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  Speaker 2: to be incarcerated.
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  Speaker 1: Helen, can I ask you because I am running out
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  Speaker 1: of time. Honestly, We've got so many messages supporting you
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  Speaker 1: this morning. People saying well said Helen, someone saying Helen
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  Speaker 1: for Chief Minister. There's a lot of messages of support
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  Speaker 1: here this morning for you, Helen first standing up and
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  Speaker 1: speaking up. What do you think needs to be done
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  Speaker 1: to address the lawlessness? When it you know, when that
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing around the place at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to the juveniles, they break the law,
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  Speaker 2: lock them up, it doesn't matter. I'm really about the age.
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  Speaker 2: I get angry and upset when they say, then your
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  Speaker 2: old kids shouldn't be locked up away from their families. Well,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they broke the law,
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  Speaker 2: family community, it should give it back to correctionals. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry because back in the days, I know adults that
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  Speaker 2: are my age and younger. They used to be sent
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  Speaker 2: out to walm and River. Open a not a camp
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  Speaker 2: at woop Wark and give these kids discipline where they
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  Speaker 2: have to wash their own clothes, command the dormitory, make
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  Speaker 2: veggie gardens and go do running getting told what to do.
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  Speaker 2: These kids are in down Dale and my understanding of
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  Speaker 2: Dundale's because I have somen that my two twin boys
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  Speaker 2: have had to go there and do work after the fire.
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  Speaker 2: They have the own entertainment center, that have their own
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  Speaker 2: basketball center. They get free iTunes, they get everything they want.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a detention center. It's like a little resort.
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  Speaker 2: So they get locked up, they come at reoffend and
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  Speaker 2: then they go back again. Parents need to be held accountable.
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  Speaker 2: It's they the functional parents that are sitting on the
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  Speaker 2: backside as a recipient of sendling money for US taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: that work look after our families and casceleate them. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sick of advot get agencies for these poor little kids
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  Speaker 2: and the parents are jumping up and down. It's not
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  Speaker 2: about color here, It's about juveniles breaking the law. People
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  Speaker 2: should feel safe in their homes, businesses should feel safe,
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  Speaker 2: and and the other thing about air and social behavior.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not happy that the government bought victims in from
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  Speaker 2: the flood, gave them flood money flood payments. I bet
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  Speaker 2: you're out of the seven hundred people that got came
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  Speaker 2: into Darwin and Thrush the impacts, can't two hundred of
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  Speaker 2: those with sensible that spent the money wisely, while the
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  Speaker 2: other five hundred just blew it on alcohol and they
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  Speaker 2: sold your behavior is happening words. Hell, sorry, that's just
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  Speaker 2: how I feel and what I've seen. Hell, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: just my view. This is used from families, monsuremen, non
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  Speaker 2: indigenous people that have been talking to me about this.
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  Speaker 2: How they do decline whether they are a juvenile or adults.
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  Speaker 2: Look them up. That's the whole idea why we have
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  Speaker 2: centers for people that break the law. And one more
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  Speaker 2: thing that I'd like to respond to that I heard
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  Speaker 2: you talking to the Chief Minister in regards to these
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  Speaker 2: bail conditions. Well, I'll let you know, as a community
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  Speaker 2: leader and I have extended family on islands and down
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  Speaker 2: the track, I have to deal with correctionals coming here
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  Speaker 2: looking for people that I ad on bail that we're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to have their conditions that they have to go
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  Speaker 2: back to country and not to come into Darwin. They
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  Speaker 2: still slip back through the Darwin and then they tell me,
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  Speaker 2: well their conditions is they supposed to be on country
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  Speaker 2: and they're back in Darwin. Well what are they doing?
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  Speaker 2: Are they doing their job and monitoring these people that
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  Speaker 2: I ad on bail. And then in regards to sharp weapons,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just about the sharp weapons here. Someone can
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  Speaker 2: pick up a piece of a lot. Someone can pick
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  Speaker 2: up a piece of bullet and they can kill someone. Ye,
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  Speaker 2: but they want to start putting their foot down. That
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  Speaker 2: is what the law is there for. And like I
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  Speaker 2: said to my electric member, yep, these juveniles need to
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  Speaker 2: be taught a lesson. I'm not being negative about it,
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  Speaker 2: but they play the system and they will keep re offending.
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  Speaker 2: And people that should feel safe in their homes and
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  Speaker 2: their businesses and go for a walk to the jettio,
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  Speaker 2: go to their library, should feel safe, but they aren't
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  Speaker 2: because I don't like this color. Because we're Indigenous, we
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  Speaker 2: have to get special treatment. Well no, no, no. We
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  Speaker 2: live in a society where we're supposed to be all
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  Speaker 2: dar night. We're supposed to be all Territorians, and the
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  Speaker 2: law applies to everyone. Whether you're a disrespectful kid that
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  Speaker 2: have no respect and you have parents that don't give
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  Speaker 2: a shit in mine my language. I'm sorry. It's all
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  Speaker 2: right about their children that they've made that are disrupting
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  Speaker 2: and hurting other people. Helen, it's just the frustration and anger.
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  Speaker 2: I can hear you know this morning, my daughter you're
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  Speaker 2: and a husband owned a Crown hand car wife in Nightcliff.
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  Speaker 2: And the new units that they've built, one bedroom unit
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  Speaker 2: for old age people. You've got countrymen there that are
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  Speaker 2: throwing bottles into their car park. Now my son and
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  Speaker 2: law have to clean it up, the noise, the fighting,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got a police station right there, right there.
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  Speaker 1: Helen, I can hear the frustration in your voice, and
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  Speaker 1: you know what you've You've articulated the way that so
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  Speaker 1: many people are feeling right now. And I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you standing up and speaking up for people
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  Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, particularly in your role that you
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  Speaker 1: are in. And we've got so many messages of people
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  Speaker 1: saying bravo, Helen. You've said what we all are thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Go Helen, Well done, Helen. You know, honestly, I think
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  Speaker 1: people are really there, they are really glad to hear
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  Speaker 1: from you this morning, and I'm sorry that we are
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  Speaker 1: going to have to leave it there because I've got
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  Speaker 1: to go across to them to the National News.
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  Speaker 2: We have my thoughts and speak about this.
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  Speaker 1: Helen. You're always welcome. You're always welcome on this show
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  Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you speaking to me this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Helen, I appreciate it. Thanks mate. Bye now