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10-13 H3: Gene Steratore Joins, Kraken Talk w/ Everett Fitzhugh & Seahawks Discussion · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for Chuck in the Morning's weekly visit with
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  Speaker 1: former NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Official Gene Steratore.
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  Speaker 1: Brought to you by the Emerald Queen Casino, the entertainment
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  Speaker 1: capital of the Northwest. Now, the official perspective of the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Chuck in the Morning with Gene Steratore.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you did there. An official perspective.
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  Speaker 2: He's an official.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Coop.
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  Speaker 4: I guess our guy, he thinks he's pretty cute with
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  Speaker 4: the words, I guess. Anyway, great morning to you all.
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  Speaker 4: We look forward to this every week. And, man, have
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  Speaker 4: we had some juicy topics the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 4: to present to Gene Steratore, greatest NFL official of all
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  Speaker 4: time and current CBS rules analyst for both college and
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  Speaker 4: pro football.
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  Speaker 2: And he joins us here on the program.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Gene. Good morning, Chuck.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not going to divert from what I know
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  Speaker 5: is a Central theme this morning, but I do have
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  Speaker 5: to say the earlier guest, as I was driving to
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  Speaker 5: work this morning, had me reminiscing about those 79 Pittsburgh Pirates.
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  Speaker 5: Being a yinzer, I was 16 at the time, sophomore
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  Speaker 5: in high school.
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  Speaker 3: Life was great. We are family. It was a special time, man.
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  Speaker 5: So thanks for allowing an old guy to go back
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  Speaker 5: down memory lane as he drove to work this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for listening. Love that. Yeah, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to do a little John Candelario. We didn't
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  Speaker 4: get to him. We didn't get to Burt Blylevin earlier.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't get to Duffy Dyer. See, I can do
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  Speaker 4: the whole team for you. I can go Lee Lacey,
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  Speaker 4: him and Eastler and a platoon out there in left field.
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  Speaker 4: Randy Stennett coming.
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  Speaker 3: Off the bench. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: My goodness, Greg, you know, I know the earlier guest
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  Speaker 5: was around eight or nine. So you even allowed me
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  Speaker 5: to harken back like eight years prior because the great
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  Speaker 5: Roberto Clemente.
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  Speaker 3: Was in Pittsburgh for my early youth.
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  Speaker 5: And it definitely had a picture of him above my
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  Speaker 5: bed as a child, not just for the way he
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  Speaker 5: played the game, but Just for the kind of man
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  Speaker 5: he was.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, great times in the bird back then, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you. I appreciate you listening. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we've got a lot to dive into here.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go. I want to go to college first. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I am going to start with college. There's a reason
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  Speaker 4: why I put it first on my list, because I
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  Speaker 4: want to ramp up to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Bama, Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Kalen DeBoer was a head coach here, and honestly, Gene,
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  Speaker 4: like he's one of the five nicest people I've ever
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  Speaker 4: met in my life. I don't know if I ever
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  Speaker 4: saw him really lose his temper. And he was furious
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  Speaker 4: on the sidelines. Like, like you've rarely seen from any
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  Speaker 4: head coach, much less one with such a calm demeanor.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he had every reason to be.
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  Speaker 4: I think they blew two critical calls in a monster
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  Speaker 4: game for both teams, both the interception that seemed to
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  Speaker 4: dance on top of the linebacker's forearm, and he grabbed it,
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  Speaker 4: and then... a pass interference penalty at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the game, which I think was as heinous and wrong
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  Speaker 4: as the famous Drew Brees, Minnesota Viking playoff interference that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, started a rule in the off season to
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  Speaker 4: try to change blown PI calls. So am I taking
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  Speaker 4: it too far? Was Kalen taking it too far or
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  Speaker 4: do we both have a beef with the officials that night?
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not taking it too far. Look, like you
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  Speaker 3: just said, you laid it out perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: These are impactful plays in games of gigantic magnitude for
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  Speaker 5: all the reasons that we're all very aware of. And really,
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  Speaker 5: let's face it, officials at these levels, you're at this
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  Speaker 5: level because you're supposed to get these plays right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it really is that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like to sound too blunt and unempathetic, but
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  Speaker 5: there's a standard here that you're in. a very high-level,
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  Speaker 5: big-type atmosphere, and you need to step up.
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  Speaker 3: And, quite frankly, you need to get them right.
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  Speaker 5: The interception play, I think this is the devil in
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  Speaker 5: the detail with frame-by-framing replay and looking to see that, what,
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  Speaker 5: one or two camera frames, a piece of this football
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  Speaker 5: may have grazed the ground. I get it, but I
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  Speaker 5: just think we're not doing the game a service. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think we're doing the entire– these athletic plays of
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  Speaker 5: service when we are framing these and showing one frame
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  Speaker 5: at 200 frames per second that a football touches the ground.
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  Speaker 5: It's on his forearm. He's controlling this ball. He's making
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  Speaker 5: an unbelievable play. And now we look at a frame
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  Speaker 5: or two and go, wait a minute, we found it.
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  Speaker 4: There it is.
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  Speaker 3: It touched the ground. It's incomplete. I just think we've.
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  Speaker 5: Gone down the rabbit hole in some instances with replays
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  Speaker 5: the great technology we have and camera angles too far
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  Speaker 5: to now defeat the purpose of what at three quarters speed, 10%
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  Speaker 5: less than real time.
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  Speaker 3: No one's questioning it. Right.
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  Speaker 5: So that's, that's a, to me, that's a technological advancement
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  Speaker 5: that may be hurting the game. Quite frankly, the pass interference,
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  Speaker 5: it's a hard play for the official that's closest.
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  Speaker 3: To the play.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason it is, is that official is has
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  Speaker 5: to stay on the goal line.
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  Speaker 3: Um, he has to hold the goal line. So the
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  Speaker 3: players are coming right to that mesh point. So it
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  Speaker 3: gets faster.
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  Speaker 5: The contact may seem bang, bang in that regard. But listen,
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  Speaker 5: that's why there's more than one official on plays and
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  Speaker 5: officials have to transition to where the ball is going.
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  Speaker 5: To me, that play is on the deep official in
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  Speaker 5: the middle of the field because he needs to transition
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  Speaker 5: from that key of his players.
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  Speaker 3: Where's that ball going?
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  Speaker 5: He sees that play from a dissection that allows him
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  Speaker 5: to see that.
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  Speaker 3: That contact was early and it beats the ball there.
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  Speaker 5: And trust me, the official that's pinned on that pylon
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  Speaker 5: is going to love him for coming in to help
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  Speaker 5: with something that may have ended up in just a
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  Speaker 5: blurred bang-bang feel.
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  Speaker 3: On the field.
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  Speaker 5: So, you're right on both counts, I think. I just
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  Speaker 5: think they're misses in those games, and you'd love to
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  Speaker 5: see them go.
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  Speaker 3: The other way.
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  Speaker 4: I know when they adopted the rules committee in the
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  Speaker 4: NFL to try to enforce where you could challenge, like
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  Speaker 4: a PI called it.
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  Speaker 2: It was an absolute disaster. Have we learned anything about it?
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  Speaker 4: Could it ever be brought back for cases like this,
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  Speaker 4: or is it just impossible?
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  Speaker 5: It would be great if we could look at these
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  Speaker 5: types of plays where we do see, listen, it's early contact.
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  Speaker 5: It's not your basic hand fighting, we know there's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of restriction, a little bit of displacement on
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  Speaker 5: a lot of plays, which is the art of officiating.
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  Speaker 3: And you have to be good enough to know when,
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  Speaker 3: when they.
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  Speaker 5: Are permitted to get away with a little bit of that, uh,
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  Speaker 5: not only to get away, it's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's, it's the normal way to ref the play.
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  Speaker 5: But then when you see these types of things, which
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  Speaker 5: become a more black and white thing and not subjective,
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  Speaker 5: it would be great to fix that. Uh, be even
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  Speaker 5: better to get it right in real time and limit
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  Speaker 5: the conversations but you know there's there's many plays like
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  Speaker 5: that in the nfl was trying to be on the
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  Speaker 5: front end of it saying in the event that you
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  Speaker 5: throw a flag on a play for a face mask
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  Speaker 5: and replay shows you that it really wasn't a face
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  Speaker 5: mask we can pick it up if if we have
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  Speaker 5: a roughing the passer call on a quarterback for hit
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  Speaker 5: to the head neck area and then replay we see
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  Speaker 5: that it hit the shoulder and not the head we
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  Speaker 5: can pick that.
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  Speaker 3: Up yeah It's a dangerous slope.
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  Speaker 5: We all lived it whenever we were going to create
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  Speaker 5: fouls or we were going to dissect plays and then
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  Speaker 5: create fouls on subjective pieces of the game.
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  Speaker 3: That's a rabbit hole that we can't.
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  Speaker 5: Win on because, you know, we're going to have a
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  Speaker 5: differing opinion on where we have to draw that line.
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  Speaker 5: And then again, that'll draw more controversy. But you just
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  Speaker 5: want to see these plays get done right. So the
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  Speaker 5: athletes and the great plays they're making. you know, or
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  Speaker 5: rewarded in some senses and then files are implemented when
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  Speaker 5: they're necessary. But, you know, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: I'm an old school guy. It's like, listen, we got
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  Speaker 5: to get better, right?
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  Speaker 3: You got to get better. We got to get them
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  Speaker 3: right is what we've got to do. So that's really
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  Speaker 3: kind of where that falls.
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  Speaker 5: We're all striving for perfection and we know that technology
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  Speaker 5: is bringing it. But listen, the two players we're discussing
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  Speaker 5: replay could come in and help with the P.I., replays
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  Speaker 5: in and making the decision on a ruling on the
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  Speaker 5: field quite frankly i liked on the field and i
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  Speaker 5: really even liked it after replay so uh you know
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  Speaker 5: it's a back and forth that might keep me into
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  Speaker 5: a job.
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  Speaker 4: For the next three or four years the great gene
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  Speaker 4: sterator uh with us uh here he's wearing his willie
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  Speaker 4: stargell jersey uh from 1979 as he uh speaks with
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  Speaker 4: us here about a lot of Very interesting decisions made
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  Speaker 4: by officials, a lot of different rulings, including UCLA Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: My goodness, they brought you out onto the set. Next
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  Speaker 4: thing I know, they're asking you your football analysis on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you've got some face time on CBS Live.
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  Speaker 4: sports in the studio with our friend Rick Neuheisel, who's
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  Speaker 4: also going to join us today at 9 o'clock. I
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  Speaker 4: would ask you to explain exactly what went wrong in
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  Speaker 4: that two-point try where Oregon, and we're not shedding any
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  Speaker 4: tears over this, apparently got screwed with the spot on
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  Speaker 4: their two-point try.
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  Speaker 3: College rule now. Differences too.
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  Speaker 5: Over 200 differences between college football and the NFL. So
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  Speaker 5: many differences. um this this happens to be one of
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  Speaker 5: those but in the college game by rule on a
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  Speaker 5: running play even if it is a two-point conversion play
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  Speaker 5: uh there are ways to enforce fouls this situation was
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  Speaker 5: uh oregon's going for two the ball is snapped from
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  Speaker 5: the three-yard line It's a running play where the quarterback
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  Speaker 5: has been face-masked.
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  Speaker 3: And the end of the run is at the one-yard line.
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  Speaker 5: So he's failed the two-point conversion, but it was a
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  Speaker 5: running play, and the offense finished that play at the
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  Speaker 5: one-yard line. When you have a defensive foul like this
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  Speaker 5: foul was, a face-mask on a running play, the proper
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  Speaker 5: enforcement is to go to the end of the run,
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  Speaker 5: which would be the one-yard line, and penalize them 15
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  Speaker 5: yards if.
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  Speaker 3: That could apply, or... half the distance to the goal.
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  Speaker 5: In this instance, Chris Coit, great referee too, from up
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  Speaker 5: in your area, who I've admired for years, he actually
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  Speaker 5: spoke to both of them as he was announcing, which
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  Speaker 5: caused me a little apprehension quite transparently on air because
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  Speaker 5: I have two sports in my head too. So he
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  Speaker 5: initially announced that the penalty would be enforced from the
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  Speaker 5: previous spot, from the three to the one and a half.
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  Speaker 3: They collaborated again at another stoppage.
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  Speaker 5: Then he said they were going to enforce the penalty
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  Speaker 5: from the end of the run, which should have put
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  Speaker 5: that ball at the half-yard line, right?
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  Speaker 3: And now they ended up and left it at the one-and-a-half.
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  Speaker 5: The next play, as we all have seen, if we've watched,
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  Speaker 5: was about a one-yard gain back to that half-yard line area.
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  Speaker 3: But had he snapped it from the.
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  Speaker 5: Half, more than likely all things staying the same, it's
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  Speaker 5: a successful two, and we go probably at least to
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  Speaker 5: a tie game and maybe to OT. So that's where
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  Speaker 5: the mistake was. It was a three-quarter yard, one yard
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  Speaker 5: difference in how they enforced the half-to-distance foul, which became
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  Speaker 5: a gigantic difference as the game unfolded.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Any chance that the officials got together, they knew they
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  Speaker 4: were making the wrong call, but they all decided, we
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  Speaker 4: hate Dan Lanning, let's put it at the one and
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  Speaker 4: a half. Any chance of that?
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  Speaker 2: Ah, zero.
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  Speaker 3: No, listen, when you're in a group of seven or
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  Speaker 3: eight where.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody hates you... I would understand that if they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Let's weigh out all the people involved. All right, are
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  Speaker 3: we in between? We're kind of 50-50?
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  Speaker 5: All right, which one do we like less?
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  Speaker 3: Nah, we can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: In that instance, I think that would be very professional
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  Speaker 4: of them to just penalize Lanning because.
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  Speaker 2: He's a jerk.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about Seahawks 49ers. We had a
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  Speaker 4: game that ended on a call that... I mean, we
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  Speaker 4: didn't see like on replay that it was the wrong call,
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  Speaker 4: but we didn't see on replay that it was the
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  Speaker 4: right call. Cooper Cup goes out of bounds. He's one
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  Speaker 4: of the smartest people that has ever played football. My
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  Speaker 4: feeling is if he needed 10 yards, Cooper Cup was
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  Speaker 4: going to get 10 yards when he stuck that ball
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  Speaker 4: out there. But the official immediately said he was a
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  Speaker 4: yard short. And apparently on the review, they couldn't find
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  Speaker 4: an angle there. that proved it otherwise. How did you
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  Speaker 4: see that play and what might have gone wrong or
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  Speaker 4: what could have been done differently in that situation?
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  Speaker 3: Quite frankly, this is one of the harder plays to referee.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason it is, is the covering official that's
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  Speaker 5: on that sideline. When you start having a running play
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  Speaker 5: come and threaten that sideline, and quite frankly, you as
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  Speaker 5: a human being, For two reasons, you have to move
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  Speaker 5: and retreat moving backward, moving back toward the offensive side
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  Speaker 5: of the play so that you can allow the play
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  Speaker 5: to pass you, so that you can also get into
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  Speaker 5: a position to not only work the action on the runner,
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  Speaker 5: but hopefully see some action in front of the runner.
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  Speaker 5: And then as that runner crosses the sideline, you then
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  Speaker 5: move up to two or three yards and get a spot.
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  Speaker 3: That you hope is extremely accurate.
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  Speaker 5: But you can't stay right where Cooper Cup is reaching
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  Speaker 5: because you're not going to be standing and maybe not
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  Speaker 5: be alive to rule on the play with all those
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  Speaker 5: bodies coming right to that mesh point. So the officials
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  Speaker 5: do everything they're supposed to do on the field. This
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  Speaker 5: is the real difficult part about it, guys, is that
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  Speaker 5: a play where inches more than likely are the difference.
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  Speaker 5: And as much as I may be anti another technological advancement, that.
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  Speaker 3: Feeling on these plays, because it does happen. This play happens.
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  Speaker 3: It repeats itself.
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  Speaker 5: Can we put a grid around the sidelines and put
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  Speaker 5: a chip in the ball for these plays so that
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  Speaker 5: when that football is reached, because that's the rule, it's
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  Speaker 5: not where his foot hits out of bounds.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that.
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  Speaker 5: It's where the ball crosses this imaginary plane that goes
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  Speaker 5: up from the sideline to That's where the ball needs
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  Speaker 5: to go.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I get that.
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  Speaker 5: If you put a chip in the ball and it's
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  Speaker 5: a plunge at the goal line, the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Might be across, but his knee may be down.
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  Speaker 5: But on these sideline plays, when it's pretty clear and
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  Speaker 5: obvious as to whether the player was down by contact
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  Speaker 5: or he's an upright runner just reaching, as this one is, man,
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  Speaker 5: if you had technology, put a grid up, right? I'm
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  Speaker 5: not a high-level tech guy, but that would be a
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  Speaker 5: situation to me where now we can become more exact
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  Speaker 5: because we know when that official comes up to rule
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  Speaker 5: on that spot, the chances of that spot being changed,
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  Speaker 5: diminished tremendously with the advancement of technology and replay. It's
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  Speaker 5: usually 99% of the time, the play that stands on
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  Speaker 5: the field based on how the officials rule, but.
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  Speaker 3: An amazing play and it's inches. It truly is. It's,
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  Speaker 3: It's an index card play, as we like to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess. Since you invented the index ruling. Index
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  Speaker 4: card ruling. You would have given it to him, though,
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't you? I'm just saying that based off of something
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  Speaker 4: you've told us in the past, where if you think
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  Speaker 4: that the player didn't, you know, give the player the
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  Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt, especially a remarkable player, that he
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  Speaker 4: probably did get the play wrong. completed the way he
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  Speaker 4: wanted to. And so based off of that, would, do
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  Speaker 4: you think if you were in that spot, you would
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  Speaker 4: have given him the benefit of the doubt there?
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  Speaker 5: I would, I really would be remiss to say that
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  Speaker 5: based on any of that criteria, Chuck, I would, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I would be really, really focusing hopefully for that brief
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  Speaker 5: moment in time to try to know exactly anticipating that
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  Speaker 5: it's going to be a reach for the line to
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  Speaker 5: gain play or a dive.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of play that you really are really just trying
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  Speaker 3: to be as exact as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 5: All other things I understand, but the truth of it
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  Speaker 5: is in that moment, you just want to pray that
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  Speaker 5: you can get this snapshot in time that gets you
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  Speaker 5: as close to being a hundred percent accurate as it,
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  Speaker 5: as you, you know, can be. And then you just
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  Speaker 5: want the football to get it and put it down where,
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  Speaker 5: where your brain told you that's where that snapshot was.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And really kind of have to live with it. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: it's a hard play. It really is. It's a hard
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: play to ref.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Gene Steratore is with us. We've added a new wrinkle
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: this year. I give a ref a compliment at the
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: end of every single one of our conversations so that
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Gene just doesn't have to hear some loudmouth talk show.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Host criticizing officials. I give a compliment.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: And here's the compliment I'm going to give. And I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: don't know if there's been a rule change or adjustment
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: or the way that officials see this, but there were
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: two different ways grounding calls that made fan bases furious.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: San Francisco, a Brock Purdy grounding call.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: That made 49er fans furious.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: And then in the New England Patriots game, Drake May
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: had a grounding play. And Patriot fans, even though they
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: won going away, are still angry with officials here on
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Tuesday morning.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I will just say this.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know if something has changed ruling-wise, but I
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: think that's how that play should be officiated. Both quarterbacks
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: were dead in the water, and they just kind of
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: spiked the ball near the heel of a receiver who
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: seemed to me to be engaged with... a block at
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the time and not really even behaving as a wide
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: receiver so i don't know what the rule is but
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: i know what the rule should be and that is
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: that that should be called grounding every single time and
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: so i give the officials credit for making those two
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: calls gene.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: You know chuck anytime you're willing to give a gold
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: star uh to an official Wouldn't it be just terrible
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: if I told you that all of what you just said,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I completely agree with a hundred percent in the common
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: sense world of what we all love about the game.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yes. And yet they more.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Than likely are both going to be downgraded for missed calls.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And I get what you're saying and trust me.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Well, then they should change the rule.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I've given that world with you.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I will say this as a white hat, In a
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: play like this, the one thing that that referee, white
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: hat referee, more than likely is not going to see
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: on that play in that moment is where that ball
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: lands in relation to a player that has a number
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: on him.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: That allows him to be a receiver on the play.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Because these plays, quarterbacks are under pressure. They may be
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: getting grabbed at that moment. It's a last-dish effort of
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: just dumping it. And you're definitely aware when it comes
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: at the birdie plays a great example to hand, like
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: just push forward.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I'm already having anxiety about it. did he push it forward?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Did he fumble it? How do I rule on that?
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: And most times now we see them say it's a
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: fumble so we can let the play play land. Clark
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: stood up, knew he pushed it forward. Also digested immediately.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Didn't get back to the line of scrimmage. He's in
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the pocket and he throws his flag. that's when land
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Clark needs help from the umpire on the field, the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage officials that have to come to him
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: and say, land.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: 89, 87, 23, whatever. There's an eligible player.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I know he's blocking and he just disengages and the
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: balls within two yards of him and many cases. And
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: the proper procedure today with the way the rule is
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: set is once that conversation takes place, He really should
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: pick the flag up, much to the demise of all
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: of us that love the game and say common sense.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: He's not a receiver. He's blocking. He's not even turned around.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have any idea that he's a receiver.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: But he really needs to pick the flag up and
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: say there's no foul for intentional grounding.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Number 89 was in the area.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: And then be bassed with 100,000 boos in the stadium
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: and live with the social vitriol that will come on
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: social media.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: But I don't disagree with your thought process through it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: You always want to see common sense or latitude for
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: officials to apply common sense because they're in the moment
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: to plays like that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That's always been my take.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Understanding that when the competition committee and the stakeholders of
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: these games decide this is the way you work it
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: then you do what you're supposed to do and that's
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: enforce the rules as those stakeholders say but i'm not
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: against what you're saying here and i do think both
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: of those really did feel like intentional grounding this is
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: just removing the football to avoid loss of yardage right
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: i mean that's what it is with no real if
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: receiver let's say uh in the area but by rule
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I thought they both ruled on them in real time
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: in a common sense way. And probably as we sit
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: here on a beautiful Tuesday morning when they're getting their
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: their grades from the last game. going to go to
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: the right of the screen and see uh incorrect call
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: for intentional grounding someone was in the area.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Well maybe that's the impetus for changing the rule then
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: in the offseason because i think that one could be
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: uh adjusted uh this offseason i mean i'm all i'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: all for you get out of the pocket you throw
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: it to the line of scrimmage you get rid of
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: it uh that we we can do that but when
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: you're wrapped up and the defensive player has done his
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: job and you are sacked and you just you know
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: fart a ball uh toward some eligible receivers back heel
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: i don't want that to be uh something that gets
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: a quarterback gets saved in that situation so hopefully they change.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: The rule gene i that's my hope that's my.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Way no chuck I think you get the gold star
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: this week for your officiating expertise. And now I really
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: want to go back to the field just one more
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: time to click on a mic and say it's intentional grounding.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: The quarterback farted the ball forward and there.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Was no one in the area. If I could get
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: away with.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: That one time, it would be a great way to
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: end the mediocre career.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: But I think I'd go for it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, we got to make that happen now.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: All right, man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Excellent. Thank you very much. We appreciate you every week.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Thanks, guys.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Have a great week. All right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Jane Steratore brought to you by Emerald Queen Casino.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: He is fantastic. So is Everett Fitzhugh. He'll join us
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: next on KJR. Kissing the past, McCann cuts, shoots, scores!
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Sharon McCann down the right side, cut back into the middle.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: He used the capital defender as a screen and a
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: twisted wrister. In pass, Logan Thompson has Seattle back up
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: by one, four, three, with 527 to play in the third.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: And you love twisted wrister growing up the twisted wrister
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: yeah i mean we're not gonna take it one of
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: their big hits i want to rock you know great
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: band this brings back childhood memories old twisted wrister ghani
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: uh joining us now on the program is the voice.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Of your seattle crack and everett fits you hi sir.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: I'm very glad that i can help create new memories
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: for new hockey fans and Help our more established fan
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: base relive some classic memories from their days of yore.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: So thank you very much.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Ah, you're magical. There's no question.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: So are we bothering you in the city of brotherly
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: love this morning? Did you have some other big plan
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: for brunch in Philadelphia with people throwing batteries at you
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: while you're eating your omelet?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: No, no batteries today.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: I left my Santa costume at home, so that way
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: I won't be booed. Walking down the street. I had
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: my I had my cheesesteak yesterday. So now we're good, man.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: We're at the rink right now.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: Team just got on the ice for for a morning skate.
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: Guys are looking pretty loose, feeling pretty good after a
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: big win in Washington.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: So hopefully.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: That'll carry over to tonight.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Couple big wins on the road.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And again, the offense just looks like a different beast
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: than what it did a year ago. Can we, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: know it's six games, you got 78 to go, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: can we start believing that at the very minimum that
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: this offense is just going to be better this season?
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I think so. I think it will. And there's a
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: lot of, a lot of parallels.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Between this season and between year two.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: I don't want to drink things too bad, but when
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: you look at where the Kraken are right now, you've
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: got the second year of Lane Lambert, so you didn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: have to spend the two-week short training camp trying to
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: put in a brand new system, trying to teach players
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: how to do things. Everyone knew what their job was.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: Everyone knows what Lane expects, so that was a really
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: positive leading end of the year. I think the players
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: that you are expecting more from this year they feel
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: those expectations. Matty Beneers and Berkley Catton and Shane Wright,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Jared McCann, those players understand that they're going to be
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: the offensive leaders for this team. I think Mackie Samuskevich
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: has come in, although he only has a couple of goals.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: He's looked really good.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: Bobby McMahon, he is continuing to look good. I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: it's been the fourth line the last two games for Seattle,
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: 13 points in two games from your fourth line. I mean,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: The last time that happened, the Kraken made the playoffs
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: because your fourth line had 101 points that season. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I think everything is clicking well. We've heard so much
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: the last few years. The depth is our strength. And
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: it really is because this season through six games, It
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: seems like every night or every couple of games, there
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: is a different offensive catalyst for this team. So I
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: think we can read into the fact that, hey, this
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: team will be better offensively. Now, are they going to
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: score five and six goals every night? Probably not. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: take it while you can. But I do think that
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: you are going to see. a much better offensive team
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: this season than last year.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, you mentioned all the parallels
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: between the year two, the playoff team, and this year.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: One of the things you can add into that is
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: elite goaltending. I think both Joey and Gruby have been good.
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: Is it just kind of business as usual, alternating starts
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: between those guys? Or are we starting to see kind
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: of a leader emerge, at least to be the number one?
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: I think Joey is still going to be your de facto,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: your number one, if you had to put a number
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: on it. But I mean, Philip Grubauer, who will start tonight,
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: it looks like for Seattle, he is continuing his strong
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: play from last season. And this is typically what will
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: happen during the course of a year. Your first 10,
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: 12 games, you're going to see a 50-50 split, maybe
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: a 60-40 split.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: You're hoping.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: that one goalie does ultimately take the reins and be
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: that number one. But the way that the NHL is
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: played nowadays, the way this league is going, you need
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: two strong goaltenders. I mean, gone are the days. I
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: think I talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Gone are the days where, you know, you're looking at
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: a guy like Grant Fuhrer playing 75 games, Dominic Hasek,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: Martin Brodeur playing 70-plus games.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: If you can get between.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: 40 and 50, 45 and 50 games out of your
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: quote-unquote number one, and then your number two can come
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: in and fill the back.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: With the other 30, 35.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Games, I think that's the ideal split for you. But
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: right now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Kraken are doing really good with their goaltending. The two-and-one
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: split seems to be working right now. And like I said,
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Grubauer will go tonight. Depending on what happened, I could
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: see Maybe Lane Lambert throwing him back in.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Goal on Thursday in Tampa.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: But I think as this team's going right now, you
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: don't want to mess with whatever's working.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Why does Freddie Goudreau have four goals?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: OK, so he over the summer, he built a makeshift.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: goalie in his backyard and he.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: And his son were just shooting pucks and playing hockey
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: all summer he took a thousand shots last year over
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: the summer and he was working on his release he
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: changed a few things up he changed his sticks i
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: mean a lot of people forget that freddie goudreau is
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: a naturally skilled centerman. I mean, he's got a lot
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: of skill. In the NHL, though, you have to mold
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: and play the role that sometimes you're put into. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: he's gotten this, you know, the habit, the moniker of
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: being that bottom six grinding centerman, which it works.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, he skates hard. He wins face-offs. He can
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: kill penalties.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: But he also does have a scoring touch, a skill touch,
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: component to his game, and we're seeing that. He's got
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: four goals in his last three games. Like I said,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: that entire line has got 13 points over the last
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: two games. They're working really well together, and Freddie has
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: been driving that line.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Flyers, any good?
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Well, you're in the National Hockey League, so all teams
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: are good in the NHL.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: There are 32 of them.
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: You are amongst the best players, never mind that you
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: are the last winless team or one of two winless
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: teams in the nhl um i i was actually just
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: talking to their broadcaster before you guys called and i
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: mean it's it's it's a rough go here in philly
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: rick talkett just wrapped up his media and then he
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: said and i quote it's been a horrible two weeks
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: we know it you know it everyone knows it um
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: and i think this is that prototypical trap game for
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: seattle you're going up against a winless team who are
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: oh five and two they've got eight goals total in
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: their seven games. They've been outscored 28 to eight in
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: their seven games so far this season. And if you're Seattle,
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: you don't want to be the slump buster. You don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: want to be the one. So this, this could be,
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: you know, this has all the makings of a trap game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: You're going down to Florida after this two tough games
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: against teams that many people feel are going to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: another deep playoff run. A lot of folks are picking
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: Florida and, who you play on Saturday to get back
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: to the Stanley Cup final again for the fourth time
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: in the last five years, third time in the last
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: four years, something like that. So you really cannot afford
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: to look past this game. They just called up a young,
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: speedy centerman, Jack Stunica. He'll play tonight for them. But
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: they're going through the paces right now here, and the
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Kraken cannot afford to take this one lightly.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that over the course of the last
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: three days, you got to go home.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Then you got the culture of Washington, D.C. and the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: history of Philadelphia. And now you and Al, after tonight,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: you can go full banana hammock in Florida for a
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: little while. Oh, man, this is one hell of a trip.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Banana hammocks are coming on Friday.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: We're going to Busch Gardens tomorrow in Tampa. We're going
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: to do Busch Gardens Day and then the banana hammocks
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: come out on Friday.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Lovely.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Well somebody needs to do a drawing or an artist
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: rendering of that while you're sipping your daiquiris you two
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: are sipping your daiquiris by the pool hammocking it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: Up I'm going to send you both a picture of
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: a heavily tatted banana hammocked person we saw last year
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: and it was I'm going to send that to you
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: off the.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Air I guess I want to see that have fun
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: tonight All right, fellas.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Chris, take care, guys.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: All right, there he is.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Everett Fitzhugh, voice of your Seattle Kraken. Kraken in action tonight.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Four o'clock start in Philadelphia against the winless Philadelphia Flyers.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: So a chance to make it three in a row
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: for the hometown hockey club. And sounds like they should
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: get that done. All right, coming up next, Seahawks-Broncos. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: we can already start looking ahead to this game. I mean,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: it's in two days. Sports Radio 93.3, KJRFM.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Rick Neweiss will join us at 9 o'clock.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: All sorts of things to talk about on the college
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: football landscape.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: We'll get his thoughts here shortly.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Of course, we've got a short week as the Seahawks
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: get ready for Thursday night football against the Denver Broncos.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Coming off a loss, but very similar. Kind of very
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: similar stories that both of these teams share. We can
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: jump ahead of it since it's a short week. Usually
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: wait until hump day. Before we start talking about the
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: next opponent, but we're ready to move on from the 49ers.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: And ready to get ready for some Thursday night football.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: We'll be showcased in the throwback jerseys. They're going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: wear them on the road. So it's going to be
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Denver in the blue and us in the orange?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Opposite.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Opposite. Other way. Them in the orange, us in the blue?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: That is correct, sir. No white jersey on the field?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: No white.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, there you go. Both teams wearing throwbacks.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Both teams are three and two. Both teams don't have
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a running back.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Both teams had quarterbacks that got off to rocky starts
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: this year because of injuries and still aren't in a rhythm.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Both teams are known for their defense. Both teams have
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: great head coaches. I mean, it's the exact same two
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: teams playing on Thursday. They basically have the exact same
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: story right now.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I actually mentioned before the season that, you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: Denver reminded me a lot of Seattle and how they
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: build their team, and it's very depth-oriented. It's not like
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: the top-heavy Rams and stuff like that. They rely on
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: their depth, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: So it doesn't surprise me that they have a lot
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: of similar stories going on. Bigger questions at quarterback than
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: even the Seahawks do at this point in time, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: we'll kind of see how that plays out.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: But he is getting better.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: He has played better, just as I expect Sam's going
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: to continue to play better. Um, you know, but, uh,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: right now, pretty similar tales for both of these teams, uh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: heading into this game. And yet neither team should be panicking.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, did I, do I really have to read it?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I get everybody's got your crust in various areas, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: should you have at all developed.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: A crust for Mike McDonald?
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: If you're a Seahawk fan, why am I seeing criticism
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: of Mike McDonald so harshly? Why am I seeing him?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: being called out for stupid decisions. Mike McDonald doesn't make
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: stupid decisions.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: No.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: They might not all work out, but I guarantee you
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: he's thought them all out. and had a reason for
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: why he's doing things. My goodness, if you can get
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: jaded after a 3-2 start the year after he delivered
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl to you in two short years on
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the job, I mean, what is wrong with you? I mean,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: look yourself in the mirror, give yourself a nice punch
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: in the eye, and let's get back to.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: The real world here. I mean, the overreaction. I get it.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Fans overreact. Don't want to tell fans how to fan,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: but man, I can't. Don't tell me how to evaluate you.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: If you're really soured on Mike McDonald five games into
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: the season, if I'm really got to read that in
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: my research, yeah, I'm going to call you out for
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: being an ungrateful dope.
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm going to bring my first Ian Furness-ism
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: to the morning show here since.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I've made the switch. Give your head a shake. Give
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: your head a shake.
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: He always says that when there's stupid stuff like this.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: But I completely agree. I mean, that doesn't mean every...
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: Like you said, he's not perfect. Every decision he makes
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: isn't going to be great.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: We were 3-2 after five games last year.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: I don't agree with the Josh Jobe handling of that question.
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: I think it's a valid question. Valid question, and he
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: did not answer it well. But it's fine. That's the
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: way he does it. And I still am trusting... Almost
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: every decision that he makes, just because I know that
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: he's one of the smartest guys in football.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: And look, he's not going to nail every decision. But
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: like I said before, there's going to be sound reasoning
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: behind every single thing that he does, which separates him.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that there are some coaches out
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: there that do make snap decisions that don't think them through.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: He's thought through everything. And he has been an.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: A +.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: So, I don't know. Five games, three and two record.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: People are acting like the sky's falling.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel's next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.