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AM800 Roundtable with Amherstburg deputy mayor Chris Gibb, Steven Wilder, & Shane Potvin · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to the damn McDonald shoe. John Litkey
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  Speaker 1: here filling in for Dan Hope. You're all doing well.
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  Speaker 1: It is our Tuesday round table joined by three illuminary luminaries.
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  Speaker 1: Not illuminaries, but you're all you're you're all bright and
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  Speaker 1: vibrant this morning, so we'll stick with it. It was
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  Speaker 1: a mistake, but you know, we like to flub a
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  Speaker 1: little bit here. Yeah, that would be a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different context there Steven Wilder's voice, you just heard lawyer
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  Speaker 1: with diamond and diamond. How are you doing very well?
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  Speaker 1: Great to have you here, Thank you so much. Chair
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  Speaker 1: of the Ford City Business Improvement Association, Shane Potvin, How
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  Speaker 1: you doing good?
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  Speaker 2: How are you John?
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  Speaker 3: Good?
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  Speaker 2: You're there, I can see you.
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  Speaker 1: We also have Deputy Mayor of Amsburg Chris GiB.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing very good?
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  Speaker 4: John? How about you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm doing great. Thank you, but don't worry too
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  Speaker 1: much about me. It's all about you guys on the
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  Speaker 1: listening audience right now, nine oh seven, on this Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into today's AM eight hundred new
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  Speaker 1: poll question. Did you know A new study says Canadian
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  Speaker 1: organizations embroiled in data breaches wind up paying an average
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  Speaker 1: of six and a half million dollars to deal with them.
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  Speaker 1: That's down from last year when it was at roughly
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  Speaker 1: seven million. This is coming out of IBM. They analyzed
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  Speaker 1: data breaches experienced by hundreds of organizations between March of
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  Speaker 1: last year and February of this year, and Canada had
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  Speaker 1: the sixth highest cost for data breaches, coming in behind
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  Speaker 1: the US, Germany and Italy. The question that we're asking
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  Speaker 1: is are you worried about your personal data being compromised?
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  Speaker 1: Have you gone to deleting any social media apps due
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  Speaker 1: to threats of data breaches? Maybe Facebook, Twitter, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: calling it X first. It's always going to be Twitter, TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: any of them. Steven, what are you concerned about these
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  Speaker 1: data breaches? There's a lot of personal information that we
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  Speaker 1: have locked up in accounts.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm definitely concerned. I think everyone's concerned about data breaches.
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  Speaker 3: They continue to happen. We see them. I mean myself,
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  Speaker 3: I receive notification. I think it was a few months
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  Speaker 3: ago from Caesars. I haven't been in the casino, I
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  Speaker 3: think in twelve years. But meanwhile there's been a data
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  Speaker 3: reach and now they've got my driver's license, address and
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  Speaker 3: everything else. So you know, you can be as protective
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  Speaker 3: as you want and safe as you want, but at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you've got to give data out,
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  Speaker 3: personal information to certain people, and that gets stored and
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  Speaker 3: ultimately that gets breached. In terms of social media apps,
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  Speaker 3: I've I've got a BlackBerry. I use my phone for
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  Speaker 3: phone type things, so I don't really have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of BlackBerry.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a cellular device?
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  Speaker 4: Oh it still.
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  Speaker 1: You brought the DVD of the movie? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Does that have the Internet on it?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 4: It still works? But no, I mean that's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Like my phone, I use it for phone things and
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  Speaker 3: you know, I mean send an email, a text message.
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  Speaker 3: But in terms of apps browsing at work, I'm on
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  Speaker 3: a computer all day, same thing. I mean between tablets,
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't do a lot of it social
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  Speaker 3: media and I'm really Facebook and that's about it. But
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  Speaker 3: you can be as safe and as low key as
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  Speaker 3: you want, you still have to put your data out
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  Speaker 3: there sometimes, and you've got to put trust in these
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  Speaker 3: organizations that they're going to preserve it. And at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, there's no full proof one percent
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  Speaker 3: safeguard method.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, we've just become more willing to put a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff out there, whereas before when I was
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation on ROAs City politics of one of
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  Speaker 1: our co panelists, and they're talking about when they had
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  Speaker 1: a kid, they put their name into the newspaper like
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  Speaker 1: you would do back in the day when that existed,
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  Speaker 1: not to knock. Maybe they still offer that service. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not quite sure right now, but they said I started
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  Speaker 1: getting phone calls like every week from people offering baby
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  Speaker 1: services who were cross referencing the announcement and then cold
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  Speaker 1: calling from the Yellow page or the white pages. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we do put information out there, it's just
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  Speaker 1: what are the safeguards and what do we expect those
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  Speaker 1: to be? Shane, are you at all concerned?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I mean I'm I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the twenty percent, Like seventy percent I
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  Speaker 2: don't care about. I don't necessarily care. Excuse me if
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  Speaker 2: like Google's listening to me on my my Google Home
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  Speaker 2: like there's all that stuff, people are like turn it
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  Speaker 2: off or put your sticker over it, so you don't
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  Speaker 2: like I I think that that's sort of the information
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  Speaker 2: that's not all that important to me. I mean, help
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  Speaker 2: them gear stuff towards advertising towards me specifically. But I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think you always have to be careful. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's happening, you know, it's happening in like a you know,
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  Speaker 2: the digital world, it's happening in a you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was happening beforehand, in a more tangible world. Like I've
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  Speaker 2: had you know, TD call me and say I've someone
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  Speaker 2: opened a bank account in my name at my branch,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on Ottawa streets and they were able to
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  Speaker 2: just open two bank accounts and take out a credit
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  Speaker 2: card and yeah, and it was like just kind of random,
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  Speaker 2: someone walked into the branch and knew. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how they would know my information, whether it's from my
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  Speaker 2: you know, recycle bin or which is sort of strange.
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  Speaker 2: But then now, I mean, deeply, how much more information
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  Speaker 2: is out there? My credit cards out there? But I
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  Speaker 2: find that a lot of the companies, especially like TD
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  Speaker 2: or sorry, Visa MasterCard, they're there algorithms and their systems
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  Speaker 2: are so smart that they're catching a lot of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff before that's actually getting you know, you get the
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  Speaker 2: phone call, you're at home, depot buying a two thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars you know, and lable hot tub, and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: are you buying this and you're like, yes, yes, I yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's COVID and I need a I need
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  Speaker 2: inflavable hot tub right now.
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  Speaker 1: But sounds like that's a true personal story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, it's yeah, that was a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine. But I think, you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: getting a lot smarter. But then they are getting smarter
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  Speaker 2: and they're finding ways to so I think it's always
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  Speaker 2: going to be a problem. And I think it's obviously
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  Speaker 2: something you have to put you know, funds or money to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who it is that does that, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't spend a lot of
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  Speaker 2: my time worrying about Some people get caught up and
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  Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, my life is being bombarded
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  Speaker 2: all day and I'm being taken over. Please take me over,
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  Speaker 2: because I uh, yeah, I'm done. I'm just kidding, I'm done. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: that's a thank yeah man, just like, yeah, just take
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  Speaker 2: the responsibilities off my shoulders.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, because yeah, that got a little dark there, just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. How about yourself, Chris, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: we all. You have to use social media, I mean
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  Speaker 1: elected you have to use it. We've got to all
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  Speaker 1: interact in this sphere. We can't just go live in cave.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're absolutely right with your hot tap. Your personal
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  Speaker 5: data is out there. It's everywhere. And you know, my
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  Speaker 5: day job, I'm I'm also an insurance broker, so we're
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  Speaker 5: always worried about you know, we have people's personal data,
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  Speaker 5: and are you scrubbing your systems to get rid of
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  Speaker 5: the data that you don't require, you know, It's it's
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  Speaker 5: funny we talk about this. I was at a continuing
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  Speaker 5: education course one time about data security and identity theft,
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  Speaker 5: and they told us a story about a European company
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  Speaker 5: that sold insurance policies for companies that had data breaches,
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  Speaker 5: and the insurance company actually got hacked and the hackers
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  Speaker 5: got a list of their clients who they knew then
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  Speaker 5: all had insurance, and they attacked those clients. And one
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  Speaker 5: day at this insurance company, they you know, over the
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  Speaker 5: course of a week, they had thousands of claims in
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  Speaker 5: and they realized that their customer list had been breached,
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  Speaker 5: and the hackers knew that each one, each company on
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  Speaker 5: that list had insurance, so they went after them to
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  Speaker 5: get a quick payout.
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  Speaker 4: But even myself, I.
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  Speaker 5: Had I forget which company it was that I was
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  Speaker 5: dealing with.
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  Speaker 4: They had a data breach and I got.
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  Speaker 5: A free I think it's two years of credit monitor
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  Speaker 5: eFax or something, Equifax or something. And then you know,
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  Speaker 5: every month, I get an email and I look to
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  Speaker 5: see how bad my credit has gotten, and I look
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  Speaker 5: to see if anybody is getting loans in my name,
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  Speaker 5: and unfortunately.
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  Speaker 4: They're just me.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, it's but it's it's we have to
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  Speaker 5: take a responsibility to monitor where our data is because
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  Speaker 5: it's out there everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have Sandy texting in right now. Who says
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to live in a cave, no social media,
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  Speaker 1: no drama, just peace and quiet. Hey, that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like what Peelee Island is, right, Peeley Island is our
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  Speaker 1: like local cave that I suppose you could have.
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  Speaker 2: It's away, it's one hundred percent. My wife is pushing
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  Speaker 2: to buy a cottage on pee the Islands like hard
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like those bugs, I can't handle them. They tole.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: You get a net and you put it around the
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  Speaker 1: inflatable hot tub. Otherwise it's just oh terrible.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See you're building you guys are building the perfect environment
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  Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, we're making it on an island, in
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  Speaker 2: an island, in a hot Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're making it easy. But I also want the invite
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  Speaker 1: after you go and set this all up.
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  Speaker 2: So hot, it's too I think, Yeah, comfortably let us know.
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  Speaker 1: Are you worried about your personal data being compromised? You
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  Speaker 1: It's also always so jarring to see myself on the
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  Speaker 1: YouTube and realize that I use my hands so often
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  Speaker 1: to talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
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  Speaker 1: I have been told that I'm an honorary Italian by
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  Speaker 1: many people over the past week of being on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: It's nine fifteen. We're gonna break right now. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: back to the Tuesday roundtable with Steven Wilder, Shane Potvan,
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  Speaker 1: and Chris Gibb. Don't go anywhere, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: John Leckey here on AM eight hundred ckl W. Hope
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  Speaker 1: you're doing well. It's the Dann McDonald show. I'm filling in.
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  Speaker 1: It's nine nineteen Tuesday Roundtable, joined by luminaries Stephen Wilder,
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  Speaker 1: Shane Potvin, and Chris Gibb talking right now about overcrowding.
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  Speaker 1: Why transit Windsor has seen some pretty good increases. I
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  Speaker 1: suppose two thirds of Windsor's primary and secondary transit routes
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  Speaker 1: have exceeded the threshold for overcrowding. That's not a good thing,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact that there's so much usage is a positive.
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  Speaker 1: One transit rider says, I'm bumping into people constantly. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not comfortable though they're invading my personal space. There was
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  Speaker 1: a report that was written up by Transit that said
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  Speaker 1: the target should be thirty five. Any number of that
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  Speaker 1: above that is considered an overload. Numbers are looking at
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  Speaker 1: on the one A fifty four, the one C five,
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  Speaker 1: the Crosstown two forty eight, and people are saying, we
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  Speaker 1: have bus passes here and this is just not a
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  Speaker 1: great situation to be and it goes to show that
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  Speaker 1: transit usage is up and it requires more investment. Steven,
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring your voice into this one first. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a demand, obviously, and when there's a demand, it
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  Speaker 1: should be met by the provider, in this case, not
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  Speaker 1: by the market, but by the government. I would say
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  Speaker 1: that this is you know, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get yelled at by anyone here, but a government failure
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  Speaker 1: if you're not able to provide the service that you're
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  Speaker 1: intended to provide.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good problem to have, is what
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  Speaker 3: I would say, right, And we talked about riderships up.
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  Speaker 3: I looked at the numbers. I think it was eighty
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  Speaker 3: percent year over year. Was with the ridership increases. I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's a substantial growth thirteen percent I think before
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  Speaker 3: from twenty nineteen compared to now, so five year kind
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  Speaker 3: of average.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a good problem, right.
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  Speaker 3: You want to see your infrastructure, you want to see
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  Speaker 3: your services being used as a municipality, as a government,
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  Speaker 3: but it's difficult as a government with budgets that are
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  Speaker 3: set so far in advance, especially at the municipal level,
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  Speaker 3: with limited funding, to address these problems very quickly. In
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  Speaker 3: year we can see and I think it was the
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  Speaker 3: city's engineer was talking. I think there's nineteen buses that
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  Speaker 3: are set to be brought online. I think this year,
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  Speaker 3: I think I saw that there's about twenty five or
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  Speaker 3: twenty nine were nearing end of use. So maybe falling
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  Speaker 3: behind a little bit there, but I think there's another
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  Speaker 3: seventeen on order over the next few years. So you
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  Speaker 3: can see steps being taken to try and address that problem,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but there's not an immediate solution. That the
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  Speaker 3: buses aren't cheap to bring them in, do they have
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  Speaker 3: to revamp the whole system. I don't know that that's
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  Speaker 3: necessarily the case, but you know, it's a problem. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, for years we talked about transit wins or
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  Speaker 3: people weren't using it. Nobody wanted to take the bus.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't get there from here, you know, all those
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  Speaker 3: standard things out and kind of my neck of the
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  Speaker 3: woods with with the local transit out there, it's very
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  Speaker 3: limited in terms of what you can get. Now we've
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  Speaker 3: got the opposite happening. And the last thing I think
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  Speaker 3: you want is for people to feel frustrated with the service,
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  Speaker 3: to feel uncomfortable, not want to use the service, and
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  Speaker 3: then by the time you've addressed the issue, well now
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  Speaker 3: you don't need the service anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So it's tough to balance.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say that, and from my experience on
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  Speaker 3: town council, you know, it was a tough thing residents
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  Speaker 3: to bring an issue to you. You want to address it,
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  Speaker 3: but unfortunately there isn't the money tree in the backyard.
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  Speaker 3: And unlike the federal and provincial government, your only source
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  Speaker 3: of funding is property tax. You don't have income tax,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: you don't have all the other taxes, very limited revenue stream.
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  Speaker 3: And fortunately there's a partnership here. I think municipal or
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  Speaker 3: a federal and provincial are all teaming up on those buses.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a multi level effort that's required.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's tough. We know that, like they're going to
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: be doing the new East end terminal as being built,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: but there still is a need for a new big
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: garage that has quite frankly plugs, yeah, because all the
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: new buses plug in. And that's one of the issues
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  Speaker 1: is we don't want to go adding more diesel buses
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  Speaker 1: to the fleet while we're in a climate emergency is
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  Speaker 1: declared by the City of Windsor so it's just like
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  Speaker 1: shake the money tree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know where it is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when you have the city going to Shane like, hey, province, Feds,
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  Speaker 1: give us the cash, we can do maybe a third,
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  Speaker 1: but we can't afford all of these things.
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  Speaker 2: And we've been talking. I mean, this is the writing's
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  Speaker 2: been on the wall for a long time. They've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about, you know, updating the infrastructure for the transit
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  Speaker 2: system for a long time. YEP, Council has been fighting
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: against it for years. They've been kind of pushing you know,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: some major that that that big depot that you're talking about,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: there was big money that was supposed to go into,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: you know, creating a very large, you know depot. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where, but we've been sort of fighting this
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  Speaker 2: for for years, and I think we're now starting to
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  Speaker 2: see again it was pre COVID, you know, we're up
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  Speaker 2: since COVID. The city's changing a lot. But I think
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  Speaker 2: we've known this. I think the city has been growing
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  Speaker 2: for years and we're we're not we're heading into it.
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  Speaker 2: I think a new phase, a new era where you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to start seeing major changes in you know,
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  Speaker 2: people coming to this region, people moving here, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then it's going to be a big strain on
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  Speaker 2: the infrastructure. And so we're seeing this now and I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we need more buses, but I think there needs to
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  Speaker 2: be a change in the way we think about transits
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  Speaker 2: in general, and so I think it's throwing money at it.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice having the city and provincial governments helping us.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes it's a velosco around how we address transportation
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  Speaker 2: and mobility in a city. And that's not just transit, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, we just re signed our contract agreement with Amersburg
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  Speaker 1: Jansit Win you did for another five years. Those partnerships
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  Speaker 1: are great because they provide an additional revenue stream. They
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: come with additional expenses, of course, but it's it's the
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  Speaker 1: baby steps towards getting towards full regional transit, which if
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  Speaker 1: we could have the whole region helping to bear the
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  Speaker 1: cost of the transit, we can see some significant improvements.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of the steps that are being made, Chris.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think it's important to make those steps.
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  Speaker 5: I can I can totally understand why the Windsor is
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: seeing an increase in ridership. We had the same thing
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  Speaker 5: in Amersburg. I think in less than two years we
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: doubled our ridership huge and Amersburg Town Council voted to
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: extend that contract with the Transit Windsor for another five
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  Speaker 5: years and also to add a fourth trip we had
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  Speaker 5: for a long time. We only had three trips between
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  Speaker 5: the city and Amersburg, and we added a fourth because
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: of the massive increase in ridership, and our stats showed
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: that it was more than half of the people using
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: the bus. I think it's route six oh five. I
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: should have some kind of symbol for six oh five.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: More than half of the writers were university and college students,
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: and whether that was students from Windsor coming to Amersburg
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: to work or Amersburg students going to the college and university.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: And while we debated that at Amersburg Town Council, we
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: also were implementing a transportation master plan. And one thing
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: that stuck with me is, you know, you look at
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: the cost of housing, the cost of food, there's also
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: a massive cost for reliable personal transportation. And having a
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: robust regional transportation system starts to become almost a social
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: justice issue because there's people who can't afford to reliably travel,
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: and at what point does the municipalities in the county
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: have a responsibility to help those people get around well?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: And I know stories of employers who are picking up
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: their employees on the way that they go to work
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: because otherwise they wouldn't have someone who's able to actually
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: work in the store. When we start to realize that
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: it's not just a like a low income user issue,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: but it's something that actually affects all of us. I mean,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: it's easy when we live in a region that's known
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: for automotive and where traditionally people have been able to
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: access vehicles because they have been on friends and family
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: plans and for whatever reason. You know, it's easy to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I think, sort of disregard people who don't have a
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: vehicle because it's not in the wheelwell so to speak
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: of where we are. But of course it's not the case.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Employers need employees. I know there's lots of issues as
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you travel down the ec row when you get into
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Old to come See Proper, where you have people who
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: can't get to work because the buses don't go that far.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: This is not just an equity issue, which of course
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: it is, but it's an employee issue. It's an economics issue.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: We'll just leave it there with the three e's.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: How about that when there's less people driving, like I think,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: there's less people getting their driver's license. Young people I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: find aren't getting their driver's license. They live at home,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: they're not getting their driver's license. So we're going to
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: start to see a major change in It's not even
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: going to be a car town thing. It's not going
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to be about the fifteen minute city. It's going to
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: be about what can we do to allow people to
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: get around the city effectively. And I think that's you
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: know that's coming and we have to be prepared.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Well, we keep talking about wakable cities and how we
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: want to get to that, but a key component of
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: wakable cities is to still have the public transit to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: be able to get around the city without just walking.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I don't.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Know, there's only the last ten to fifteen percent that
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you need to walk to get to your job. The
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: scooter thing was kind of it is like the last
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: ten percent, and that's I think that's that's going to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: be a real issue.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Well, on the employer thing, what I was going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: say is, I remember when my time on council again,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: we have Patilla Road right as a major industrial employer,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: major regional employer, you know it. We had the employers
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: came to us and said we need a bus, we
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: need transit, and we said, well, we can partner with you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: And I think there's a role to play here with
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: with private, with public and everything else. Because you're right, John,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: it's it's not just an issue of low income and
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: you're absolutely right, Chris. In terms of student ridership, it's
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: always been an issue.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It's not as easy to buy in afford a car
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: today as it was thirty years ago.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, right, and so it is something we've got to
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: keep an eye on.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And wait until we keep seeing ev adoption. And we'll
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: be talking about that after the break. Maybe maybe not,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. It's nine to twenty nine.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: We got a break. Great Here, I'm John Lydkey. I'm
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: John Letkey. It's nine twenty nine. We'll be right back. Hey,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: we're back, John Lydkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It's the thirtieth of July. How did that happen? Where
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the month come? It was just Canada Day and now
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: we're going into oh gosh, August. Hard to believe. We're
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: going to keep our Tuesday roundtable going lawyer with Diamond
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and Diamond Stephen Wilder, Chair of the Ford City BIA,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Shane Potvin and Deputy Mayor of Amersburg Chris Gibb talking
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: right now about umacor, a company that has decided to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: reassess their batteries materials business, citing quote significant worsening of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the EV market. They say customer demand projections have declined steeply.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: They say they're going to be revealing their decision about
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a factory in the quarter of next year. It's not
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a great news story right now, but we're hearing that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: just because this EV battery factory in Ontario is being paused,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna have any impact on us here. These
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: guys did sol source delivery to BMW in South Carolina,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and according to Flavio Volpe, president of the Automotive Arts
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Manufacturers Association, doesn't impact Stillantis whatsoever. But I guess the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: broader conversation about there is there an EV market slowdown
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: right now? We know that Chinese made EV's, even if
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: they slap a one hundred percent teriff on it, they're
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: still coming in about half the price of domestically produced evs.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: There is the looming Trump shadow of another presidency, and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: does he decide to just rip up every subsidy and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden's green future plans.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: It's it's a.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Brand new industry that's going through growing pains right now.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Stephen's it's exactly a brand new industry that's barely grown
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: yet and it's going through them, you know. And I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: read into that study. I think one of the things
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: that's that's you know, and how much it matters and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: everything else, And certainly the experts would know better, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think BMW had hit a target of thirty four
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: percent of their vehicles were now EV and they were
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: much further ahead than all the other manufacturers. And so
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: whether that's figuring into the statistical change, the drastic decline
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that they're seeing, you know, I think it's good that,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you know, it is kind of soul sourcing. It's BMW.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It's not going to impact the massive investment that's going
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: on throughout the province, but especially here in Ontario, you know.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: But I think it comes to a larger question, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: we are in a way being forced towards EV's, whether
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you like it or not. The government's mandating it. The
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: cost is there, and we were just talking about transportation.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, if people can't afford a cart now, how
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: are they going to afford an EV in the future, right?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And so that has to be addressed, you know, but
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: hearing from from some of my contacts in the automotive
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: industry and that they're they're quite pessimistic on EVS, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I don't quite get it. And they go, it's just
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: not gonna work. It's not gonna work. And I go, well, why, well,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: because it won't work, And I go, well, that just
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: sounds like sand thinking that, well, no, no, no, no change,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: no change. I don't want to do anything differently, And
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: so we're going to see it over time. I think
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: we're going to see it, you know, as it rolls out.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: There are concerns, Oh, the cost of replacing a Tesla
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: batteries twenty five thousand dollars, you shouldn't buy a Tesla. Well,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the cost of buying a new vehicle's you know, fifty
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: sixty grand, right, like it Just you're going to always
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: have detractors, You're always going to have supporters. I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: over time it's going to be a gradual shift. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I think what's being forced upon people more than anything,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: is creating that pessimism. And every time there's a bad
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: news story like this, which is a nothing burger to
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: steal one of Trump's saying down here suddenly gets all
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: this this airtime and concern. Oh well, now Stilantis is
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: going to fail. Hold us, hold on a second.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do love how these things are always framed.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: As Slavia Boi was saying, BMW has done pretty well.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They delivered thirty four percent more battery electric vehicles than
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: they did the year before. Somehow this is being billed
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: as a evs aren't being sold yet. They're up thirty
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: four points. And I'm not a math wizard, but I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: pretty sure a plus is not a minus. I could
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: be wrong. We'll get an expert in on that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Take a third growth year over yere Shane.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think again, there's businesses open and closed
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: all the time, like this could be mismanagement. Who knows
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: what it is. It's maybe they are not good at
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: numbers like me. I'm not good at numbers, That's what
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I meant. So I shouldn't be running an electric car
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: battery manufacturer. But I think this industry is going to
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: ebb and flow constantly, and we're still trying to find
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: our footing in the EV space. We still struggle, like
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, all North America struggles with infrastructure, and this
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: is the same with transit, Like you know, there's a
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: lot of people who you know, we don't have to
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: commute too far Windsor. But when you think of you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I live on in Walkerville and you know, people park
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: on Chilver and it's like they don't have a driveway
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and they have to park on the street. How are
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: they ever going to get an EV vehicle because they
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: have no way to charge it without plugging their you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: running the court across the street to their car. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: haven't seen that well in it. I have seen it too,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: but I think that's a big issue across the board.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, you can go charge it at the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Canadian Entire and it lasts in Windsor. I mean, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: don't think it's a huge problem because I could go
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: charge my car once going to pick up some kitty
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: litter at Canadian Entire and it'll be it'll last me.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I mean I walk to work every day, so an
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: electric car would last me, you know, months. But I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: think we're going to see this change, and I think
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: companies we're seeing, you know, we're seeing companies with a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: really good footing, you know, whether it is Tesla or
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the you know, Toyo ra Vovo and you know some
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of these big manufacturers that they're really figuring it out,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and Ford and Chrysler, and you know, they know that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's the future. I think we all know
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: that that's the future. It's not necessarily it's going to change.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And whether it goes to hydrogen fuel cell somewhere down
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the line, because that's actually more sustainable in creating that technology.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: But you just can't listen to the It's like following
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the markets every day, right, you just can't follow the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: markets every day because you know, we are going to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: hang our you know, we're going to hang on things
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: that are negative. And I think that's just natural. I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: think this region is going to see massive growth for
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: a very long time when it comes to the space.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So industries are always going to change, They're always going
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to evolve. You're always going to have detractors who are
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: part of the existing industry going whoa, whoa, whoa, let's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: not go change everything. I'm the number one buggy whips
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: salesman in Detroit right now. We don't need to go
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to model teas, thank you. When are people going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: use the buggy whips? But of course that's not sustainable.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this one, Chris.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I think I like the term this this. I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: this story really is a nothing burger. I mean, it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: everybody's rushing to get into the new the new market,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: the new technology of evs. It wasn't that long ago
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: that when they legalized marijuana. We all remember every company
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: was going to be a billion dollar company because they
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: were going to grow marijuana in local greenhouses. And then
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: as soon as the industry sort of started to figure
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: itself out, the successful ones were successful. The ones who
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: shouldn't have been in the market weren't there. So I
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: think this is the same type of story. Is everybody's
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: rushing in. This is the hot new product. It'll take
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: some time for these for the winners to come to
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: the top of the of the market. And you know, John,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: like you, like you said, I always think of Supposedly,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: there was a quote from Henry Ford when he started
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: making the model teas and he said, if I would
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: have asked people what they wanted, they would have told
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: me they wanted faster horses. Yep, And here we are
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: with now we're you know, and we were just tugging
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: at the break where in the heck is my flying car.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I can remember when I was a kid.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: That there we were going to have flying cars by
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: this time, So where in the heck did those go.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: To be fair?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I was at the auto show two years ago and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: they did have flying cars. They're they're like sort of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: like a smart phone smart car sized vehicle that has
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: wings that fold up, so it's an airplane that doubles
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: as a car, not as a It's it's a bit
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of both worlds, I suppose, but it's a bit too
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: expensive and it's still a concept. It's not something that's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: rolling out to the market yet. But i'd like the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: jet packs I do, I.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Could use except the hair flying, so it would not be.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Good for you. Then I also wonder, like would you
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: need a pilot license for that, or would a pilot
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: license only apply to a plane I don't want. There's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of bad drivers on the road, and I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: very concerned about adding them into the air.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think you'll have I don't think you'll have
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: flying drones, personal flying drones until there's a enemy, like
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: till these things sort of can just do the thing
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: themselves without.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They all need to be able to talk to each
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: other to know where they are. It's the same thing
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with having them on the roads, like self driving Tesla's
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: excellent until I guess it becomes rainy or winter, or
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the cameras might see an African American person and not
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: realize they're there, which is an actual thing that they're
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: dealing with right now. Still, so I don't really we
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: don't have the infrastructure to make all the vehicles talk
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to each other on the roads, and that's what is
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: really concerning with a lot of this, and we're seeing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: some of the auto companies pull back from it. One
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: thing that I'll bring your voice back in Shane, we
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: have a text that does say solid state batteries with
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a ten minute quick charge, seven hundred and fifty kilometer range,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: and half the cost of current EV batteries. I don't
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: see how you can be pessimistic about that. That sounds
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: like that's pretty good. I mean, so the advancements keep.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Happening, and I think it's also the shift of the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: way people are going to drive. I think we talked
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: about this on one of the other roundtables, was you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: wein this we're in the silo where we think every
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: single person has to own a vehicle one day and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: then I go and drive it to work, and then
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: it sits there for eight hours and then no one
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: drives it. Whereas you know, and I know Tesla has
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: been talking about this a lot, where they're shifting, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: we got to make a bunch of like vehicles for people.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But then it's there's there's a model where it's like no,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: there could just be taxis out there taking picking people up, autonomously,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: driving people to work and then going to get somebody else.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I think there is there's something there where in ten
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: twenty years, I don't need to own a vehicle. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: don't need to own a vehicle to drive it, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: twenty percent of my day because that's just economics. It's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: just not worth it, right, Why would I do that
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: when I can just have a subscription that's two hundred
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: dollars a month or one hundred dollars a month. Because
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: as things come down, it's like starlink. The more people,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the more satellites, the more people doing it. There's a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: lot of Tesla plugs. I'm sorry, but but they're the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: only ones doing it, and they're the only ones that
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: are I think they're challenging the model, and I think
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: as these prices come down, as as startling prices come
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: down and the you know, the range gets greater, then
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you start seeing more adoption. So I think until it's there.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember Ford had some plans to have like
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: parking lots on the outskirts of cities where there'd be
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like ten thousand cars and you just click the app
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: button and one would show up at your house at
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the time like that. It's the same idea. We obviously
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet, but it sure would be cool
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to see that. We got to take a quick break
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: right now. When we get back on the other side,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: we'll keep our Tuesday roundtable going with Steven Wilder, Shane Potvin,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and Chris Gibb. I am John Lydkey. This is AM
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: eight hundred. We're back after this. Hey, we're back, John
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Lyddkey here on AM eight hundred CKLW. We're gonna shift
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: gears here with this Tuesday round table with Steven Wilder,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Shane Potvin and Chris Gibb. I want to talk about
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four Summer Olympics. You been watching, Steven.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I love the Olympics. Yeah, from a young age, my
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: sister and I in the summers. I mean that was
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: when it was Olympic summer. We'd get excited, and you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: it only came around every other year. I think it
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: was two back then. But to be able to watch
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the daytime and see the heats and the qualification rounds
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: and everything else, we really enjoyed that. I'm watching them now,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: but the problem is, I'm busy during the day, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: with the highlights show you get at night, it's like, well,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: my phone's already told me who won, right, So it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: nice to see it, but you know, at the same time,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I'd like a little more of it. So in a way,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I almost wish I want to go back to the
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: time where we didn't have the internet, so that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: You know, you have a BlackBerry in the surprise for
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  Speaker 2: me at night.
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  Speaker 4: It used to be able.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can remember the Olympics being in Europe
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: and we'd watch primetime and not know. But no, I mean,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I love it winter summer. I think we're up to
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: five medals. I seen I didn't catch whether the men
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: basketball had beaten Australia or not. I know it was
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: close at halftime, but it's just I mean, sport, what
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: can you say about it?
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: And I was watching actually a judo match yesterday.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: It was a gold medal men's I forget what weight class,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: and it was Azerbaijan and French athlete. The French athletes
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have been there, and they were in the golden point,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: which is like overtime, and they both had two penalties
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and it was next next penalty wins. This thing went
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: on for eight or ten minutes, which is just unheard of,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and these guys are just exhausted and through it and
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: finally it's over and the two athletes come together and
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the Azerbaijani kisses the Frenchman on the forehead, same thing
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: they embrace. And I mean, you talk about sport crossing
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: any sort of divide you have. There's hope for this world.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yet that's what it's supposed to be about, right, the camaraderie,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the fraternal nature of it all. Shane, I'll bring your
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: voice in, but first I'll let people know we have
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: five medals right now. Got a golden swimming, a silver
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and swimming, the golden judo, a bronze and diving, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a bronze in fencing. We are ninth right now.
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  Speaker 2: Exciting. No, it creeps up on me like that always.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: It's like what it started or is like the opening
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: ceremonies was yesterday, like a couple of days ago, so
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: we didn't. GEMA actually has like CBC, GEM has some
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: good coverage of it, like on their app. Even watching
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: the opening ceremonies was kind of one of the coolest things.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That is a that is an extremely ambitious That was
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: an extremely ambitious I don't know if you saw first,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Oh it was. It was not in the stadium. There
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: were boats in the seen with all the all the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the all the athletes like in their individual boats. Instead
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: of in a big stadium. They used the entire city,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: which was pretty impressive. And then they cut away to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: these sort of like pre taped you know, bits where
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: this massless person was like running through the almost like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: assassin Assassin's creed running through the town. But like it
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: ended and they lit this giant balloon and it was
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was really cool. They had old buildings
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: that the whole facade with like a rock band like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: playing like hanging off the side of the building. It
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: was pretty neat thet but.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: The French decided to go like, let's make this the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: most French opening ceremonies. There was like mis references and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like there was a whole stage production of Lames with
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the assassiny s freed guy running.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Through, decapitated Marie Antoinette.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Sang yeah, and where they had the actress holding her
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: own head singing a good costume was actually where Marie
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Antoinette was held before she got her head chopped off.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Every window had a severed like a decapitated body in it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It was they leaned.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Into the revolution. It was.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Chris you watching it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: You know what I have to say, My oldest daughter
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: got married just this past weekend, so kind have been
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: off the grid as far as uh something like that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: I and I will admit I'm more of a winter
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Olympics guy than a Summer Olympics. But you know, the
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: French are just they have no shame in showing you
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: their French. They do not give a a rat behind
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: what everyone else says.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Your French, We're doing our thing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, it's always The Olympics is always
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: exciting because you see someone who dedicates their life to
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: a single goal and it's it's kind of inspiring every
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: time to see especially young people. I think there was
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: a wasn't there a young lady from Windsor seventeen years
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: old who she.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Was born in Toronto and they call it the Sarasota
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Shark seventeen and she won.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Seventeen You won a gold mad you know, just a
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: story like that, just you're right. It just gives you
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: faith in humanity and shows you the human spirit that
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: that of things that we're capable of if we apply ourselves.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And we also have Shane coverage of the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Olympics here at Bell Media on our CTV station. So
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that you love the CBC gym, but I'll
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: give the plug to the employer, not the mother car planks.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I still wish they would put just an average person
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in each of these events. Yes, yeah, No, it's got
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: to be somebody that's done it right, because you know
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: what I mean, I don't know how to do the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: breaststroke or the butterfly very well, but just put somebody
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that's done it at the start so we all get
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: an idea how good are these people?
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Well? Did you happen to see I saw it on
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: the US news last night. There was a lifeguard at
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: the Olympic pool, so who had to There was a
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: diving a swimming cap got lost at the bottom of
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: the pool. This guy had to strip down to his
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: bathing suit, which was typically French cut bathing suit, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: he did not really fit the the you know, the
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: the body shape of the other athletes, and in front
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: of millions of people in the stadium and on TV,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: had to dive into the bottom of the pool to
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: grab the swim cap out and he got a roaring
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: set of applause just for.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Doing his job. So it was.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: No, it wasn't race, it was it was between heats.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: They noticed it. But if you YouTube you'll see it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: The guy was wearing a swimsuit that I don't think
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: he should have been wearing. But he did his job
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: and contributed in his own little way.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You get one or two shots at that every two years.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: You're to go.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I happen to take that out.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got a couple of minutes left here.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Time for our plugged in segment where our roundtable guests
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: get to shout out something that they think needs some
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: promotion and attention, and Steven, I'll ring your voice in first.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: If I can just first and foremost, the municipality of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Lake Shore lost to council recently, recently the late Great
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Patty Bernie. And so just as somebody from former council.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't share counsel with Patty, but I certainly knew
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: him through Knights of Columbus, his community involvement. I mean,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the man was a legend in Bell River and Stony Point,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: anywhere in Lake Shore, and to lose him is a
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: tragic loss, Mike Dolen says personally, certainly to his family,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: you know, and and just what a loss and a shock.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Quite frankly, just a quick shout out if I could.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: We talked about the weather and how it changes and
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: how crazy it could be. Just a shout out to
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: all the people that work outside the construction workers. We
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: can complain about construction all we want, but at the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: end of the day, they got a job to do.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: And rain, sun, hot shine doesn't matter. They're out there.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: And and if you've never stood in the sun for
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: eight hours hours holding a sign saying slower stop and
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I've done it, you haven't felt heat.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well thank you for sharing that, and yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: condolence as well. Shane what needs some attention.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I got two things to mention. One I have to
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: dropped on Drew Lard August seventeenth. It's in like just
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: under just over two weeks. I think we'll be talking
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: about a bit next week. Caitlin is on the community
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: building segment. The other thing is, I don't know if
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you also saw, is that art Site is moving to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Ford City. They are very, very excited out of the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: If you don't know about art Site, art Site is
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: an artist run not for profit dedicated to showcasing and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: promoting contemporary arts through exhibitions, workshops, and events while supporting
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: a diverse range of artists in fostering community engagement since
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. So their plan is to open in
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: February twenty twenty five, but in the meantime they need
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to raise some money. They're looking to raise about twenty
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars to help with their renovation costs. They're moving
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: into a building that needs a little bit of work,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of a perfect fit for them. So yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: if you want to know more about them, or if
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you are interested in donating, go to art Site Inc.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Dot Ca.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for that last but not least Chris,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: what needs some attention?
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Well, John, I'll go quick because I also have two.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I wanted to give a shout out to the Amersburg
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Freedom Museum. They are having their their jazz Age Jubilee
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Emancipation celebration on Friday, August second at the Hellenic Cultural Center.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Tickets are seventy five dollars and you can go to
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Amersburg Freedom dot org for that. And on Saturday, August third,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: being that we're at the waning part of summer, come downtown.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Come to downtown Amersburg and also visit Fort Malden National
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Historic Site for their history celebration period encampments, re enactors,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: and the most fun part is historic weapons demonstrations that
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: will blow you away. I'm getting good John, John's kind
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: of I'm getting a vibe from him.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I like it. Thank you so much for that. It'll
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: do it for us here on the Tuesday roundtable on
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the dam McDonald show, Thank you so much. Lawyer with
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Diamond and Diamond, Stephen Wilder, Chair of the Ford City
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: b i A. Shane Potvin, and the Deputy Mayor of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Amersburg Chris Gibb. Thank you so much for all of
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: your time. We're going to take a quick break right now.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: We got the ten o'clock news coming up next in