Latest / Scam Goddess / The Most Colorful Home in Queens with Kerry Coddett
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- 0:17Speaker 1: Scam Goddess! What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl Lacey Mosley, a.k.a.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all
- 0:24Speaker 2: about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Sometimes we hate them. But one thing's for sure, this
- 0:30Speaker 2: is a comedy podcast, so we will laugh at them,
- 0:32Speaker 2: but never at the victims.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And congregation, you already know that I'm what? Yes. Excited. Thrilled. Elated. Okay?
- 0:40Speaker 1: Stand up. Stand up in your cars. Stand up, you know,
- 0:42Speaker 1: at your job. Stand up at your desk. Get a little.
- 0:46Speaker 2: You know, activity going. We like that for you. And
- 0:48Speaker 2: please welcome Carrie Coddett. She's a New York-based comedian, actress,
- 0:52Speaker 2: and writer. Her credits include Flatbush Misdemeanors, funny as hell, Rami, Crashing,
- 0:57Speaker 2: and The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Oh, all bops. Love that for us. Carrie, welcome to
- 1:03Speaker 1: the show. Hi. It's so nice to have you. Thank
- 1:05Speaker 1: you for having me. I'm excited.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Yes, I love that you're using our language. It's gotten
- 1:09Speaker 2: very limited. I'm going to expand my lexicon and give
- 1:12Speaker 2: the girls some different words.
- 1:13Speaker 1: More than excited? Yeah. I try to go with thrilled,
- 1:16Speaker 1: you know. Enticed feels a little too sexual. But something.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Sometimes I say I'm pumped, but I say it just
- 1:23Speaker 2: like that. And people are like, that feels not sincere.
- 1:25Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pumped. I'm pumped. Pumped feels like a
- 1:29Speaker 1: white people wear, like, malarkey. Like... Probably. I'm pumped. I'm stoked.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Is there anything stoked in? I've never said stoked. You've
- 1:37Speaker 2: never said stoked? I've never said stoked.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Pumped felt natural when you said it. Yeah.
- 1:41Speaker 2: I feel like when I say it, it doesn't feel
- 1:42Speaker 2: that natural.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Well, I have to ask you, Keri, first and foremost...
- 1:48Speaker 1: You used to live in New York City, right? Mm-hmm.
- 1:50Speaker 1: In your recent L.A. transplant. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, so I
- 1:53Speaker 1: know you have some type of relationship with scams. Do
- 1:56Speaker 1: you love them? Do you hate them?
- 1:57Speaker 2: Are there any that you kind of, like, fuck with?
- 1:59Speaker 2: Other ones that you, you know, anything that you've seen?
- 2:02Speaker 2: I love a good scam. I'm not gonna lie. I
- 2:05Speaker 2: love a good scam. I feel like there's a code
- 2:08Speaker 2: of ethics that you have to have, though.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 2:09Speaker 2: And so I feel like you should never scam people.
- 2:12Speaker 2: But if you scam in corporations, in systems, I'm with
- 2:17Speaker 2: the shits. I love that you say that. Because we
- 2:19Speaker 2: always say scam up, don't scam down. But I love
- 2:21Speaker 2: that you said don't scam people. Because I think.
- 2:24Speaker 1: That for so long, corporations have tried to trick us
- 2:26Speaker 1: that they are people.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And it's getting worse and worse. Have you noticed that?
- 2:30Speaker 2: Like how ads, like, do you have a TikTok or like?
- 2:33Speaker 2: I have a TikTok, but I'm not on it. It's
- 2:36Speaker 2: a lot going on. I can't figure out how you
- 2:39Speaker 2: even get to the feed part.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I just, I'm not.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I'm old.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. That's as far as I'm going.
- 2:45Speaker 2: So the lineage of like how jokes and stuff go,
- 2:49Speaker 2: it's like it first appears on TikTok, then you see
- 2:51Speaker 2: it on Instagram, then it'd be on Facebook. So you're
- 2:55Speaker 2: at the millennial Instagram, which is good. If something says
- 2:57Speaker 2: good on Instagram, I'd be like, maybe I should put
- 2:59Speaker 2: it on TikTok. And so I'm doing it the other way.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I'm doing it the other way. Yeah.
- 3:03Speaker 2: The thing is, I feel like TikTok is not as
- 3:05Speaker 2: much of a hater when it comes to the algorithm.
- 3:07Speaker 2: If you take it from Instagram and put it on TikTok.
- 3:09Speaker 2: But Instagram will hate if you have something on TikTok
- 3:12Speaker 2: and put it on Instagram. Because they can tell that
- 3:15Speaker 2: it came from TikTok and downloaded it and they'll suppress it.
- 3:18Speaker 1: That's too much. So it's like it's forcing you to
- 3:19Speaker 1: be loyal to one platform. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. It's
- 3:23Speaker 1: been a hater for so long. They used to let
- 3:25Speaker 1: us see our friends. That is true.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Do you know how many people? I'm like, did I
- 3:28Speaker 2: unfollow you or are you dead? Like, what happened to
- 3:31Speaker 2: this person?
- 3:31Speaker 1: Yeah. If I'm seeing you on my timeline, I think
- 3:34Speaker 1: something happened to you. Right. At some point, we have
- 3:36Speaker 1: to start doing welfare DMs. Like, how have you been? Like,
- 3:39Speaker 1: are you alive? Right. Yeah. Did you see the message? Okay, okay,
- 3:43Speaker 1: they saw it. They saw it. So somebody's running the page.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like I see a lot of
- 3:47Speaker 2: companies masquerading as people now, and it's so annoying to me. Like,
- 3:52Speaker 2: you'll see someone post something, and then the companies will
- 3:55Speaker 2: come in like, oh, don't play with us.
- 3:57Speaker 1: It's Wendy's, bitch.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, like the voice of their social. It's like
- 4:01Speaker 2: a person, and they're all trying to be really cute.
- 4:03Speaker 2: And it's like, it's just, just sell me the burger, bro.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Or not, but like all the other stuff.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Especially I was seeing stuff during Love Island. Sarah V
- 4:12Speaker 2: got in trouble because.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Well, they do.
- 4:14Speaker 2: So, you know how Sarah V and I've said this before.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Love Island is our Stanford prison experiment. And, you know,
- 4:20Speaker 2: we lock the babies up and sleep to prep them and,
- 4:22Speaker 2: you know, make them make them that kid, you know.
- 4:25Speaker 1: But Sarah V is always a huge sponsor. So they'll
- 4:28Speaker 1: be like, yeah, a little little bikini babies. It's time
- 4:31Speaker 1: to put on your Sarah V and go outside. So
- 4:34Speaker 1: there was like a. Did you watch this past season?
- 4:36Speaker 1: I did. I did. So you remember when T.T. came
- 4:39Speaker 1: in and she turned it into a little... She was like,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I'm T.T. Well, I'm talking to you. I tuned in
- 4:46Speaker 1: just after that.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I got to start watching now
- 4:49Speaker 2: because I need to understand why everybody's T.T.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Right. That's how they got me season seven. I was like,
- 4:53Speaker 1: who's this hood lady and why does everyone hate her?
- 4:55Speaker 1: That's how they got me to it. Elandria. I'm like,
- 4:57Speaker 1: who is this? Right. And why do I need to
- 5:00Speaker 1: go defend my black queen? So the I'm T.T. stuff...
- 5:04Speaker 1: Sarah V.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Dressed up their bottles in the outfits that T.T. and
- 5:09Speaker 2: that man, whatever that man name is.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Yeah, Casey.
- 5:12Speaker 2: They dressed up the bottles in the outfits that they
- 5:15Speaker 2: had on. And it was like, pipe down, I'm Sarah V.
- 5:18Speaker 2: And I guess this moment was kind of racially charged
- 5:22Speaker 2: and a little negative for T.T.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And Casey and also for... They made them sassy suntan lotion. Yeah.
- 5:30Speaker 1: And everybody was like, this is really tone deaf. Why
- 5:32Speaker 1: would you do this?
- 5:34Speaker 2: But, like, that's how comfortable they feel now, pretending to
- 5:37Speaker 2: be people. And I'm like, you're not a person. I
- 5:38Speaker 2: don't care about you, corporation.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Wasn't there something with Pepsi the other day where it
- 5:43Speaker 2: was like, Cherry doesn't ask for consent or something?
- 5:47Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I saw that. There was something like that.
- 5:49Speaker 1: There was something with consent, and I think it was Pepsi.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that. No, it was. It was Pepsi.
- 5:54Speaker 1: It was like Cherry Pepsi and then the other Pepsis. Mm-hmm. Yeah,
- 5:57Speaker 1: and what's crazy to me is, like, Pepsi.
- 5:59Speaker 2: This is what you get for following along with firing
- 6:02Speaker 2: your DEI hires. If you had some black people in
- 6:05Speaker 2: that marketing room, they would have told you this wasn't smart.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Just like they would have told you not to tell
- 6:09Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner to walk... And.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Offer the can in the middle of the... The racial protest.
- 6:17Speaker 2: A can of Pepsi to cure racism. You know, in hindsight,
- 6:21Speaker 2: as we say it, so now, like, it was annoying,
- 6:23Speaker 2: but now that I think about it, I get why
- 6:25Speaker 2: they're trying to be relevant.
- 6:27Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 6:27Speaker 2: It's like, if you were an old, dying brand, what
- 6:29Speaker 2: you gonna do? Like, how do you stay relevant? So
- 6:33Speaker 2: I think they're just probably trying to stay a part
- 6:35Speaker 2: of the competition and part of the conversation.
- 6:37Speaker 1: So I guess, but it's desperate.
- 6:39Speaker 2: And unfortunately now, it kind of feels like anything being
- 6:41Speaker 2: a part of the conversation is good. So even if
- 6:44Speaker 2: it's backlash, they're still getting talked about. They're still getting
- 6:47Speaker 2: the clicks and the algorithms in their favor.
- 6:50Speaker 1: All press is good press. Which I hate that. I
- 6:53Speaker 1: miss when people used to do damage control. I miss, like,
- 6:55Speaker 1: a good publicist.
- 6:56Speaker 2: I miss, like, a nasty, like, Oprah couch moment where
- 6:59Speaker 2: you cry and you really tell the girls to come
- 7:01Speaker 2: back and buy your product.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Because you changed.
- 7:02Speaker 2: But those always backfire, too. That's the whole thing, especially
- 7:05Speaker 2: in these times. Like, people will go on and they'll apologize,
- 7:08Speaker 2: and we'll be like, you made it worse. You shouldn't
- 7:10Speaker 2: be quiet. You shouldn't have just shut the fuck up.
- 7:12Speaker 2: That's because you can't do your own front-facing apology. You
- 7:15Speaker 2: have to go on somebody else's platform.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Anytime you whip out your camera.
- 7:18Speaker 2: I'm not going to think it's genuine because I know
- 7:20Speaker 2: you went to the poorest-looking place in your house.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Like, where can you not see the acreage? They
- 7:25Speaker 1: don't do their makeup. They got to make it look
- 7:27Speaker 1: like they've been crying. Right, right. Rub their eyes real hard.
- 7:29Speaker 1: They got the quivering voice. Yeah. Right.
- 7:31Speaker 2: It's like, and then it's always half-assed apologies. Like, I'm
- 7:34Speaker 2: sorry if I've harmed. Like, there should be no if
- 7:36Speaker 2: in your apology. I think, though, that we should stop
- 7:40Speaker 2: asking people to apologize, bro. I think like that. It
- 7:43Speaker 2: has gotten so crazy. We all know you're not really sorry.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Also, you're not really mad. You're mad today. Tomorrow is
- 7:50Speaker 2: going to be something else. Why I got to apologize?
- 7:53Speaker 1: It's not really that big of a deal. Fuck off. Right.
- 7:55Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed. I'm hating. What I'm going to have
- 7:58Speaker 1: to apologize for in the future. I'm already knowing, bro.
- 8:02Speaker 1: I'm already knowing. You hate the scam of apologizing in public?
- 8:05Speaker 1: It's so dumb. It's so disingenuous. We know you don't
- 8:08Speaker 1: really mean it. It's just dumb. It's just like a
- 8:11Speaker 1: fun humiliation ritual.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Look, if strangers on the planet are just going to
- 8:16Speaker 2: give you money to follow your dreams, meanwhile, they got
- 8:18Speaker 2: to clock in to whatever job they hate.
- 8:21Speaker 1: The least you.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Can do is rub your eyes, get in your bathtub,
- 8:25Speaker 2: and give us a little fake apology.
- 8:27Speaker 1: That will also tear apart. I guess. I guess. Damn.
- 8:33Speaker 1: This is the life we chose, girl. It is.
- 8:35Speaker 2: It chose us. Have you had to apologize for anything yet?
- 8:38Speaker 2: Don't even say those words in the ether, okay? Don't
- 8:40Speaker 2: speak that. Don't speak that.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I try to be very, very careful. See, now you
- 8:44Speaker 1: cut that out.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Cut that out, okay? Because I don't even want people
- 8:48Speaker 2: thinking about it. Yeah, don't have them looking for shit.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Right. All right, back to Sarah B. Or whatever's on
- 8:52Speaker 1: the card. We got off the card. We're going to
- 8:54Speaker 1: move into our historic hoodwink today, okay? This is where
- 8:59Speaker 1: I will regale Carrie with a famous con caper, group
- 9:01Speaker 1: of criminals. We'll see how she feels all the way through.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, hearken back to your time in
- 9:07Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're going to be
- 9:10Speaker 1: talking about the most colorful house in Queens.
- 9:14Speaker 2: So this house, like, what do you think about this house?
- 9:18Speaker 2: First of all, is this the most colorful? I guess
- 9:20Speaker 2: this is New York. They don't really do color.
- 9:21Speaker 1: It's not Miami. Yeah, no, I've never seen a house
- 9:23Speaker 1: this colorful. I love the lights.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I don't know if they're east-facing, but it looks like
- 9:28Speaker 2: they get really great lights.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Well, it seems like there's a lot of windows, so
- 9:33Speaker 2: they have to be getting good lights somewhere. I feel
- 9:36Speaker 2: like I would be hating on them if I was
- 9:38Speaker 2: their neighbor. I was just like, wait, look at what's
- 9:40Speaker 2: next door. That's so crazy. Like, I don't know how
- 9:43Speaker 2: I would feel walking up to my driveway every day
- 9:45Speaker 2: having to walk past this. Also, I feel like this
- 9:49Speaker 2: opens yourself up to robbery. Like the windows, it doesn't
- 9:53Speaker 2: seem like they got curtains going on. White people never
- 9:56Speaker 2: put curtains on their window though. Like that's the whole thing.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Like I used to live in Bed-Stuy, and I remember
- 10:01Speaker 2: when the gentrification was really coming, and I was like,
- 10:04Speaker 2: why are they moving in and then not putting up curtains?
- 10:06Speaker 1: It's almost like they're like, look what I can do
- 10:08Speaker 1: with your land.
- 10:09Speaker 2: And it's just like... And so I feel like it's
- 10:12Speaker 2: a status symbol. It's saying, like, look at how I
- 10:14Speaker 2: live inside and fuck with me if you want to.
- 10:17Speaker 1: That's true.
- 10:18Speaker 2: And I feel like in America, that's probably what it's giving...
- 10:21Speaker 2: In other places, like, I remember being in Amsterdam, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: a lot of places there, like, they don't have curtains.
- 10:28Speaker 2: They leave their windows open. Like, we would take, like,
- 10:31Speaker 2: tours or be walking along the canal. And, like, Amsterdam
- 10:35Speaker 2: itself is so small. And, like, you would see, like,
- 10:37Speaker 2: kids doing homework at the table or the moms serving
- 10:40Speaker 2: a dinner or they're watching TV, like.
- 10:43Speaker 1: I don't know. But it does feel like it's still
- 10:45Speaker 1: a flex. It's the European whites. They're bringing their European
- 10:48Speaker 1: ways over here. Which I still think is a flex.
- 10:52Speaker 1: It is. That's just not how we are. Like, my
- 10:54Speaker 1: curtains are closed. Yeah.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And, like, when you come to my house, this is
- 10:57Speaker 2: the room I want you to be in. Don't ask
- 10:59Speaker 2: for a tour. Mind your business. The other rooms are
- 11:02Speaker 2: off limits. Tours is crazy.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Tours are crazy. No, no. I got a designated bathroom.
- 11:06Speaker 1: That's why I call it the guest bathroom. You're not
- 11:08Speaker 1: going to be in my bathroom rifling through my medicine
- 11:09Speaker 1: cabinets and looking at my makeup and stuff.
- 11:12Speaker 2: You know, no, no, no, no, no. I'm with you
- 11:13Speaker 2: on that. I'm down for the privacy. But, I mean,
- 11:16Speaker 2: I guess it's because we have survival instincts. You know,
- 11:19Speaker 2: I was reading the other day, like, when you're an
- 11:21Speaker 2: apex predator, you're not really scared of much.
- 11:23Speaker 1: That's why when shots start ringing out, they never run fast. Nope.
- 11:26Speaker 1: They actually run towards the danger. What's going on? Hold on,
- 11:29Speaker 1: let me stop this. I've never been that curious. I've
- 11:33Speaker 1: never been like, let me go see. I'm never trying
- 11:35Speaker 1: to see. No, you could pop a balloon. I'm running
- 11:37Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. I don't want to know. I don't.
- 11:40Speaker 2: But this house, you know, it looks cheerful from the curb, right?
- 11:43Speaker 2: But it's actually a candyland-colored nightmare maze built and sustained
- 11:48Speaker 2: with money stolen from its own neighbors in a tight-knit
- 11:52Speaker 2: immigrant community.
- 11:53Speaker 1: And it's currently for sale. So this is the inside. Oh, wow.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I don't know how I would feel. On one hand,
- 12:00Speaker 2: I'm like, I have anxiety and depression.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Maybe this would heal me. It is so ugly. It
- 12:06Speaker 1: is so ugly. It is. Is it, though? This would
- 12:11Speaker 1: heal you? What is actually going on that this is, like,
- 12:14Speaker 1: the balm to your soul?
- 12:16Speaker 2: Are you kidding me right now? This is like a kaleidoscope.
- 12:20Speaker 2: This looks like a mushroom trip. This is crazy.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's time for the 5150. Because I feel
- 12:26Speaker 1: like this is calming. So you hated the outside, but
- 12:29Speaker 1: you love the inside? It's so kitschy and ugly that
- 12:34Speaker 1: it's kind of spinning the block for me and becoming.
- 12:37Speaker 2: not bro it's so ugly you don't see.
- 12:40Speaker 1: No whimsy come on look at that red refrigerator.
- 12:43Speaker 2: It's so crazy it's so many things at the same
- 12:46Speaker 2: time and those chairs they make no sense like it's
- 12:50Speaker 2: like i'm not a very good decorator so.
- 12:53Speaker 1: For me i'm kind of like if i'm not gonna
- 12:55Speaker 1: be good.
- 12:56Speaker 2: At it i might as well just be really bad
- 12:57Speaker 2: at it no and act like there's a choice that's
- 12:59Speaker 2: not is that how you apply like other things in
- 13:02Speaker 2: life if i'm not good i should just be the
- 13:04Speaker 2: worst If you can't be the best, be the worst.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Lacey, I want so much more for you,
- 13:11Speaker 1: to be honest. Like, I really.
- 13:12Speaker 2: So, wait, I have a question. How did they come
- 13:15Speaker 2: to acquire the house? How was this a scam? Who
- 13:18Speaker 2: did they steal from? So, they sustained the money and
- 13:21Speaker 2: built this with, like, money from their own neighbors. So,
- 13:24Speaker 2: they were stealing from their tight-knit immigrant community. So, a
- 13:27Speaker 2: little bit of backstory about, like, Astoria itself, because this
- 13:30Speaker 2: is in Queens.
- 13:32Speaker 1: So, Astoria is a little bit of a scam on
- 13:34Speaker 1: its own.
- 13:35Speaker 2: So this is where this creepy house is located. It's
- 13:37Speaker 2: on 36th Avenue in Astoria, Queens, which was originally the
- 13:40Speaker 2: site of a War of 1812 fort before it became
- 13:44Speaker 2: its own town. So in the War of 1812, this
- 13:47Speaker 2: was a fort where they were, you know, bunkering down
- 13:49Speaker 2: and stuff. So this is before it became a town.
- 13:52Speaker 2: It used to be called Hallett's Cove before fur trader
- 13:55Speaker 2: Stephen A. Halsey renamed it Astoria, see?
- 13:59Speaker 1: We were talking about this before the show started. About naming.
- 14:01Speaker 1: You see how the names. Yes. How they dad, they
- 14:04Speaker 1: gentrified the name. It's getting a selling sunset. Like, oh,
- 14:06Speaker 1: this house, this $ 40 million house is on Pinto Street.
- 14:09Speaker 1: But you know what? Pinto doesn't get $ 40 million. It doesn't. Pinto? No.
- 14:13Speaker 1: What about Hummingbird Lane? So he was like, Hallet's Cove.
- 14:17Speaker 1: What the hell is a Hallet? It sounds like you
- 14:20Speaker 1: in the trenches. Yeah, yeah.
- 14:21Speaker 2: So Astoria does have a ring to it. So, it
- 14:24Speaker 2: changed to Astoria in 1939. A lot was going on
- 14:27Speaker 2: in 1939.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Times.
- 14:30Speaker 2: So, this was after the USA's current rich man, Jacob Astor,
- 14:34Speaker 2: who was also a fur trader.
- 14:36Speaker 1: So, it was called Astoria, named after Jacob Astor.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Because, like, in New York, there's
- 14:41Speaker 2: Astor Place. There's a bunch of things named after him.
- 14:44Speaker 2: But I didn't know that Astoria... I don't like Astoria, though.
- 14:47Speaker 1: So, that tracks. That makes sense. Because I was never
- 14:49Speaker 1: fucking with it. Sorry if you're from Queens. Sorry to
- 14:52Speaker 1: that Queens, but no.
- 14:54Speaker 2: I don't know anyone from Astoria that's still in Astoria though.
- 14:57Speaker 2: So like every, yeah.
- 14:58Speaker 1: It's a place where you go. Uh-huh, moving along. I
- 15:05Speaker 1: just want to say too, I'm from Brooklyn.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I know you said I'm from New York, but Brooklyn
- 15:09Speaker 2: is a distinct identity.
- 15:10Speaker 1: You're right.
- 15:11Speaker 2: And so I'm allowed to shit on the other boroughs.
- 15:13Speaker 2: I don't know about you because you're not a New Yorker.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Listen, I lived there for a little while. Okay. Okay,
- 15:19Speaker 1: and I lived in Bushwick. Bedwick. I lived in Bedwick.
- 15:22Speaker 1: They was calling it Bedwick. And so I was getting
- 15:25Speaker 1: my lights turned on and they were like, oh, what
- 15:26Speaker 1: area are you in? Because this man was like really
- 15:28Speaker 1: chopping it up with me. He's like, yeah, we gonna
- 15:29Speaker 1: get your shit put on. We gonna get your shit
- 15:30Speaker 1: put on. When you free? And I was like, this
- 15:32Speaker 1: is the most casual con every single phone call I've
- 15:34Speaker 1: ever had. He's like, where you move from? Oh, that's crazy.
- 15:37Speaker 1: That's crazy. I bet. Yeah, yeah. What you doing out here?
- 15:39Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I'm in Bedwick. You know,
- 15:41Speaker 1: I'm an actor. And he was like, fuck is Bedwick? Exactly. Exactly.
- 15:44Speaker 1: He said, you mean Bed-Stuy? Bed-Stuy do or die? And
- 15:48Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay. Good to know.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Guess I won't be skipping around here. No, but you did.
- 15:52Speaker 1: You didn't die. So you did. I didn't die. I
- 15:53Speaker 1: did it. I did it. I dude. I didn't die.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Love that for me.
- 15:59Speaker 2: But so, yeah, Jacob Astor was slapping his name all
- 16:01Speaker 2: over everything. And I love Astor and then turning it
- 16:04Speaker 2: into Astoria.
- 16:05Speaker 1: It's giving like, you know when men want to name
- 16:08Speaker 1: their daughters after them? Yeah. Uh-huh. Jacobia.
- 16:13Speaker 2: They give it a little feminine flair. Just a little
- 16:15Speaker 2: feminine flair at the end.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Like, we won't notice.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Also, if you are listening to this, please comment if
- 16:20Speaker 2: you have a dad name. Because I want to know
- 16:22Speaker 2: more dad names. I find them very fun. So, Stephen, who, remember,
- 16:29Speaker 2: he was the one who, he was a fur trader.
- 16:31Speaker 2: He was the one who renamed it Astoria in 1939.
- 16:34Speaker 2: He was trying to manipulate John Astor into investing into
- 16:38Speaker 2: the area. The plan only kind of worked.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And Astor invested a token $ 500, which would be about.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Like $ 17, 000 in today's money. He never even visited. But see,
- 16:49Speaker 2: Jon Astor didn't even go to Queens. He's like, I
- 16:52Speaker 2: know his name after me, but I'm good.
- 16:53Speaker 1: But I'm not going. You ain't even going to cut
- 16:55Speaker 1: me off. What kind of a Debbie dad is that? Like,
- 16:57Speaker 1: I'm going to name you Junior, but I'm never going
- 16:59Speaker 1: to visit you. Never going to visit you. Never went
- 17:01Speaker 1: to a football game. Wasn't at your graduation. Best of
- 17:04Speaker 1: luck to you. Best of luck to you, Junior. Hope
- 17:07Speaker 1: my name's enough.
- 17:08Speaker 2: So, it was enough to get Astoria off the ground
- 17:11Speaker 2: and running into what would become a thriving neighborhood known
- 17:14Speaker 2: for movie production and large immigrant communities from Greece, Egypt, Ecuador, Korea, Colombia, Brazil,
- 17:21Speaker 2: and Bangladesh.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Never take me to Bangladesh. Sorry, that is a stem.
- 17:25Speaker 2: So, It's also known for red brick Tudor buildings and
- 17:30Speaker 2: walk-up apartments with a pretty predictable old-world New York look
- 17:34Speaker 2: to them. So this Candyland house stands out. Like we
- 17:37Speaker 2: were saying before, the house next to it giving war.
- 17:41Speaker 1: This is not. So this house is a six-bedroom, four-bathroom property.
- 17:47Speaker 1: And we're talking about floor-to-ceiling windows, hand-selected chandeliers, which, yeah,
- 17:52Speaker 1: we know those were hand-selected. Whose hands selected that? Like,
- 17:56Speaker 1: whose hands? So many questions. Listen, Willy Wonka.
- 18:03Speaker 2: These chandeliers also double as sculpted art and bold floral
- 18:07Speaker 2: themed finishes that either look like Eternal Spring, if you're
- 18:11Speaker 2: a listing agent, or like a Clown Had a Manic episode.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Just kind of depending on your perspective. I feel like
- 18:17Speaker 1: my perspective is Eternal Spring. And you are definitely saying
- 18:22Speaker 1: Clown Had a Manic episode. I'm definitely Clown Had a
- 18:25Speaker 1: Manic episode. And that's okay. We don't always have to agree.
- 18:29Speaker 1: There's a fake pink tree and skittle-colored leather sofas off
- 18:33Speaker 1: the kitchen. It also doesn't appear to have air conditioning
- 18:36Speaker 1: because there's a standing fan in every picture in every
- 18:40Speaker 1: room in the real estate listing.
- 18:43Speaker 2: So I do see like a wall unit, but what's
- 18:46Speaker 2: pissing me off is that if you're going to spend
- 18:47Speaker 2: this much time decorating the place, why not install a ceiling?
- 18:50Speaker 1: Or at least like those, you know, those ones. The
- 18:53Speaker 1: split unit? Yeah. But it's got the OG joint that
- 18:56Speaker 1: you got to lift up the window and push it down.
- 19:00Speaker 1: The window unit. Yep. I feel like that's really cutting
- 19:03Speaker 1: the corner for no reason.
- 19:04Speaker 2: I feel like it's crazy that that's the part that's
- 19:07Speaker 2: got you caught up.
- 19:08Speaker 1: It's the AC in the thing. You know how hot
- 19:10Speaker 1: it is?
- 19:11Speaker 2: You have bypassed. Is that like plastic? That's all actual
- 19:15Speaker 2: plastic covered couch, bro.
- 19:17Speaker 1: That is like, that's like cellophane on there. Yeah, just
- 19:20Speaker 1: like grandma used to make.
- 19:21Speaker 2: And you bypass that to talk about the AC that
- 19:24Speaker 2: is 3,500 BTUs.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Like, it works. Yeah, but it takes much longer to
- 19:29Speaker 1: cool the room down. Girl. The room shouldn't be white.
- 19:33Speaker 1: It is reflecting.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Do you think about this? Think about the fact that it's...
- 19:36Speaker 2: Now you get me mad because I wasn't upset before.
- 19:38Speaker 2: But the more I look, if it's floor-to-ceiling windows, it's
- 19:41Speaker 2: because you want to optimize sunlight. Then everything is stark white.
- 19:44Speaker 2: The ceilings, the walls, and the floor. Which means that
- 19:46Speaker 2: it's bouncing and reflecting light.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So you're basically... frying in there. Yeah. You mad about
- 19:53Speaker 1: the AC? More AC. See how we agreed? We came together.
- 19:57Speaker 1: We circled around and we agreed. How am I going
- 20:00Speaker 1: to sit on that plastic couch and not get stuck
- 20:02Speaker 1: if we don't have a lot of AC? You don't
- 20:05Speaker 1: sit on the couch. That's the whole thing. You don't
- 20:07Speaker 1: come over. This is crazy. So this is on the
- 20:10Speaker 1: market right now? Yes. So the house made it to
- 20:12Speaker 1: Zillow Gone Wild when it was listed in August for
- 20:15Speaker 1: $ 3 million. This is never going to happen. Which is
- 20:18Speaker 1: down now to $ 2. 5 million. Because you know the market's
- 20:21Speaker 1: really wild to sell any home, right? I don't know
- 20:24Speaker 1: why I'm getting angry. This is really working me up. Scams!
- 20:35Speaker 2: So, I mean, The Cellars, it's owned by Jasmine Bukhari.
- 20:39Speaker 2: She and her husband, Roshan, are well-known in Queens, in
- 20:44Speaker 2: the Bangladeshi community, for their flashy lifestyle and being big
- 20:49Speaker 2: real estate portfolio moguls.
- 20:52Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 20:52Speaker 2: According to the public record, they bought the building in 1999,
- 20:57Speaker 2: gut-renovated it, and in 2017, they then transformed it into
- 21:01Speaker 2: its current fantastical state. So they were really partying like
- 21:05Speaker 2: it was 1999. Rashid Khan isn't technically an owner of
- 21:08Speaker 2: the house, which is convenient because he recently pled guilty
- 21:12Speaker 2: to wire fraud after scamming fellow Bangladeshi Americans out of
- 21:16Speaker 2: more than $ 1 million.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Prosecutors say he took advantage of the community ties and
- 21:22Speaker 1: that the most colorful home may have been one of
- 21:24Speaker 1: the things the stolen money paid for. So we saw
- 21:27Speaker 1: his wife waving like, it's for sale. But it's like,
- 21:32Speaker 1: you're not saying why it's for sale, girl. You're not
- 21:35Speaker 1: saying how it got for sale. So this was their
- 21:38Speaker 1: real estate investment scheme.
- 21:41Speaker 2: It doesn't even make any sense because real estate 101
- 21:44Speaker 2: is you never want the nicest house on the ugliest block.
- 21:48Speaker 2: So you have a house that's $ 3 million, but all
- 21:51Speaker 2: of the other neighboring houses are not going for that. Yeah.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Who's buying that? There's no, like, that makes absolutely no sense.
- 21:57Speaker 1: It's dumb.
- 21:58Speaker 2: That's how you know he's scamming. That's not even a
- 22:00Speaker 2: style in real estate.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Who's buying that? Exactly. I'm going to put in an offer.
- 22:05Speaker 1: And Rashidun approached another. You're going to put in an offer? See, Kiera,
- 22:08Speaker 1: you're falling in love with it. You're falling in love
- 22:10Speaker 1: with it. I knew I would get you. So Rashidun,
- 22:13Speaker 1: this is like the real estate investment scheme. Rashidon approached
- 22:16Speaker 1: another real estate investor in the same community. This guy's
- 22:19Speaker 1: name was Aslam, and this was in 2015. And so
- 22:22Speaker 1: Rashidon said that he had a great deal on a
- 22:24Speaker 1: $ 4 million auction property in the Long Island City area.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Rashidon pitched the idea that they split a $ 200, 000 down
- 22:31Speaker 1: payment and ownership evenly. Aslan's family knew Rashidun's family in Bangladesh,
- 22:39Speaker 1: so he felt a sense of trust and agreed to
- 22:41Speaker 1: the deal. Rashidun told him to keep quiet about the deal,
- 22:44Speaker 1: otherwise they would get outbid at the auction. Red flag
- 22:48Speaker 1: number one. Because why we got to be quiet about it?
- 22:51Speaker 2: Anything somebody's asked you to be quiet about, tell. Right,
- 22:55Speaker 2: especially if they want your money for it. You should
- 22:57Speaker 2: tell everyone.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Right.
- 22:59Speaker 2: I don't want to buy things and then people be like,
- 23:01Speaker 2: be quiet about it, though. I feel like the only
- 23:03Speaker 2: things that I buy that... I would be quiet about it.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I was like, drugs? I'm not even quiet about that
- 23:09Speaker 1: because who are you going to do the drugs with?
- 23:10Speaker 1: You got to know. How are you going to know
- 23:13Speaker 1: if you also do drugs if you don't mention, hang on,
- 23:15Speaker 1: I have some drugs.
- 23:16Speaker 2: It's just like you're buying them from the drug man.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Drug man not giving you a receipt, like guaranteed. Although
- 23:21Speaker 2: I will say in New York when it wasn't legal,
- 23:23Speaker 2: there was like a weed company that would deliver weed.
- 23:26Speaker 2: And I remember it was Pride. They would deliver weed
- 23:29Speaker 2: on backpacks and it was Pride one year. We might
- 23:31Speaker 2: have went to the same delivery and you went through
- 23:33Speaker 2: the app and it was, I'm not blowing up anybody,
- 23:36Speaker 2: but I know, and they would come and they would
- 23:38Speaker 2: have their backpacks.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Yep, they would have their.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Backpacks, but they got too busy on Pride and so
- 23:42Speaker 2: they didn't make it with my delivery. And so I
- 23:45Speaker 2: was like, I've been working with.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Y'all for years. I've been a loyal weed customer. Wait,
- 23:49Speaker 1: you tried to complain? I did. Through the app? And
- 23:51Speaker 1: why didn't you give me a little discount? They did.
- 23:54Speaker 1: They did. I was like, this is great customer service.
- 23:57Speaker 1: They had amazing customer service. They really did. I hope
- 24:00Speaker 1: they're still in business. I know. Now legit. Shout out
- 24:02Speaker 1: to them. Yeah, or maybe not legit so you don't
- 24:04Speaker 1: have to pay the taxes. Y'all have a great formula. Right.
- 24:07Speaker 1: You know, keep... Pass the savings down to the customer.
- 24:10Speaker 1: So over the next few.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Years, Aslam gave Rashidan almost a million dollars to make
- 24:15Speaker 2: similar purchases. And Rashidan kept saying the actual closing dates
- 24:19Speaker 2: for the properties were getting delayed. When Aslam's lawyers finally
- 24:22Speaker 2: got involved, they could tell that the deals never existed.
- 24:26Speaker 2: The properties hadn't been purchased and the sales documents were forged.
- 24:31Speaker 2: So for a year, Aslam trusted Rashidan because their families
- 24:34Speaker 2: knew each other in Bangladesh. So it was like, we're
- 24:36Speaker 2: all sticking together in America for a year. He didn't
- 24:39Speaker 2: question it.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Aslam, I want to be on your side, but babes,
- 24:44Speaker 2: why we get to the $ 1 million point? I feel
- 24:46Speaker 2: like at the $ 200, 000.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. At the don't tell. Mm-hmm.
- 24:50Speaker 2: The whole beginning, I don't know what this means. I just,
- 24:54Speaker 2: I can't relate. I don't understand. Like, you have to
- 24:58Speaker 2: do your due diligence. I'm not giving some random person money.
- 25:01Speaker 2: But they said the sales documents were forged.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Yes. So he was producing documents. Mm-hmm.
- 25:07Speaker 2: And, like, I can understand the cultural aspect here because
- 25:10Speaker 2: a lot of immigrant communities really do.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Stick to each other. You know what I mean? They
- 25:14Speaker 1: buy from each other. They set up stores in their
- 25:16Speaker 1: own neighborhoods. That's why we have so many immigrant community neighborhoods. Obviously,
- 25:19Speaker 1: in New York, there's tons of them. In L.A. as well,
- 25:22Speaker 1: you know.
- 25:22Speaker 2: So there is a little Bangladesh in L.A. You know,
- 25:25Speaker 2: there is, like, there's all these communities. You know, you
- 25:27Speaker 2: got a little Puerto Rico in New York. You have
- 25:28Speaker 2: all these places where they've all settled down together. So
- 25:31Speaker 2: I can understand the trust there. Now, I don't know
- 25:33Speaker 2: if I'm trusting 200,000 on a low note. Yeah, I
- 25:35Speaker 2: don't care because the thing about it is, see, because
- 25:38Speaker 2: in Bangladesh, there are people who don't trust each other.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:42Speaker 2: So y'all not going to come here and all of
- 25:43Speaker 2: a sudden be upstanding citizens.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 25:46Speaker 2: It's like, I get it, but I'm still not going to,
- 25:50Speaker 2: I'm not just going to blindly trust you.
- 25:51Speaker 1: We do have a saying, all skin folk ain't kinfolk. Exactly. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah,
- 25:57Speaker 1: you're right. That is a newer saying, though.
- 25:59Speaker 2: I feel like that came out post-2016 when we were, oh,
- 26:03Speaker 2: everybody was black in BLM.
- 26:04Speaker 1: And they were like, maybe all black lives don't matter. Right.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Right. We were like, huh.
- 26:09Speaker 1: I get why Harriet Tubman shot some of y'all. I
- 26:11Speaker 1: always say that.
- 26:11Speaker 2: Some of y'all couldn't make it. She kept a gun
- 26:14Speaker 2: for a reason.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay?
- 26:16Speaker 2: Also, people don't talk about this a lot, but, you know,
- 26:20Speaker 2: the Black Panther movement, it's always been, like, kind of
- 26:23Speaker 2: washed in the sense of, like, and this is also
- 26:26Speaker 2: with our history and the whitewashing of our history, but
- 26:28Speaker 2: you think, like, you know, Martin Luther King did the
- 26:30Speaker 2: marches and the 5Ks and everybody was together for the boycotts.
- 26:33Speaker 1: They weren't all together.
- 26:34Speaker 2: There were Black people trying to get on the bus,
- 26:36Speaker 2: and the Black Panthers would snatch their asses off.
- 26:39Speaker 1: And beat them up and tell them to walk. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 100%.
- 26:42Speaker 1: We weren't all for the cause. Nope. It's... Kind of
- 26:45Speaker 1: the same way today. It is. There's always people crossing
- 26:47Speaker 1: the picket line. Truly. Mm-hmm.
- 26:49Speaker 2: You have to be online talking about purchases that we
- 26:52Speaker 2: were like, you're not supposed to be over there.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Like, at least if you're going to go over there,
- 26:55Speaker 1: don't tell nobody. Mm-hmm. Like, what you doing? Now, that
- 26:57Speaker 1: you keep a secret.
- 26:59Speaker 2: So you don't keep a secret if somebody's like, hey,
- 27:01Speaker 2: there's some money in here for you.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody. Right. But if you crossing the picket
- 27:04Speaker 1: line and you know you're not supposed to be. Don't
- 27:06Speaker 1: tell nobody. Don't tell nobody. Right. Because next time we
- 27:10Speaker 1: see you online honking the shit. This is what I'm saying.
- 27:13Speaker 2: It's not the time to do a Target haul. It's
- 27:16Speaker 2: not the time. Don't tell nobody.
- 27:17Speaker 1: But Target sponsored the show.
- 27:22Speaker 2: So Aslam filed a civil lawsuit in 2021. A year later,
- 27:26Speaker 2: Rashidun was indicted.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Rashidun had done the same thing to at least nine
- 27:31Speaker 1: other neighbors in his community. A mother and a daughter
- 27:34Speaker 1: who for a long time lived together in a basement apartment.
- 27:38Speaker 1: They gave him $ 191, 000 after he promised to help them
- 27:43Speaker 1: buy a modest two-family home in Jamaica, Queens. Now, I
- 27:47Speaker 1: know that Rashidun has this reputation of being a real
- 27:50Speaker 1: estate mogul. Mm-hmm. There are just like realtors in New York. Now,
- 27:57Speaker 1: is real estate in New York shady as hell? Absolutely.
- 28:01Speaker 2: So I can kind of understand wanting to stay within
- 28:03Speaker 2: your own community or at least keep the money circulating
- 28:05Speaker 2: in your own community.
- 28:06Speaker 1: That's why we're always like, buy black. Or if it's
- 28:08Speaker 1: black owned, I'm like, okay, let me look at it.
- 28:13Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to keep quiet about. Mm-hmm.
- 28:18Speaker 1: It's amazing water. Oh, yeah. I got Diet Coke in here.
- 28:20Speaker 1: This is L.A. 's tap's finest.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but so they were trying to get a home
- 28:24Speaker 2: and get up out of their basement apartment. And they'd
- 28:27Speaker 2: given him $ 191, 000. The house never materialized. And Rashidun blamed
- 28:32Speaker 2: COVID delays in the paperwork. But when the women found
- 28:35Speaker 2: Aslam's lawsuit against Rashidun online in 2021, they knew the
- 28:39Speaker 2: same thing had happened to them. Like, what are all
- 28:42Speaker 2: these delays? And also.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Why are you.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Giving anybody $ 191, 000, $ 200, 000 and not going with them?
- 28:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I'm not giving the check directly to you.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I want to be in. You better hire some actors
- 28:55Speaker 1: off Craigslist or something and make this real. You better
- 28:57Speaker 1: be in a boardroom. You better give me some selling sunset.
- 28:59Speaker 1: I want to see Christine and some heels with her
- 29:02Speaker 1: titties out, you know, touring the States. Yep. And, like,
- 29:06Speaker 1: who did they make the check out to? Was it Rashida? Yes. Like,
- 29:09Speaker 1: his name is on the check?
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Red flag numero uno. But he's preying on people who
- 29:13Speaker 1: don't know anybody. And that's the only way. He's also
- 29:15Speaker 1: new to this country.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 29:17Speaker 1: So he's telling them, this is how America works.
- 29:19Speaker 2: And I can also understand that, too, because I recently
- 29:21Speaker 2: watched Real Housewives of Dubai because I.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Was just curious. I was like, what the? Because there
- 29:26Speaker 1: were so many black women on that show. And I
- 29:27Speaker 1: was like, what are we doing over there? I hate Dubai.
- 29:31Speaker 1: It's the worst place in the world. I always describe
- 29:33Speaker 1: it as a city made by rappers. And also it's
- 29:35Speaker 1: like it depends on slave labor so much. So many slaves. Yeah.
- 29:39Speaker 1: They take your passport and you can't go nowhere. Yeah. No.
- 29:42Speaker 1: It's bad. Don't get me started. And it's like very,
- 29:45Speaker 1: very rich people and then very, very poor people. And
- 29:47Speaker 1: no one in between. No one in between. And if
- 29:49Speaker 1: you look at the aesthetic... Like, the buildings and everything.
- 29:53Speaker 1: So dear. It's so gaudy.
- 29:55Speaker 2: And it's like, why you got to have the biggest everything?
- 29:57Speaker 2: And it just seems so contrived. Like, of course I
- 30:00Speaker 2: could have the world's biggest mall if I'm going to
- 30:02Speaker 2: put the world's.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Biggest swimming pool inside of it and the world's museum.
- 30:06Speaker 1: You don't need all of this. It's just... Like, where's
- 30:08Speaker 1: the nature? Why are y'all paying millions of dollars for
- 30:12Speaker 1: a driver's plate? Like, a driver's license. Like, the actual plate.
- 30:17Speaker 1: So if you want.
- 30:17Speaker 2: So apparently the lower the number of your plate, the
- 30:20Speaker 2: more money you have. So if you got plate number one,
- 30:23Speaker 2: you the richest motherfucking Dubai. Oh, no.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Yeah. That's crazy.
- 30:27Speaker 2: But you would pay for that kind of weird status.
- 30:29Speaker 2: This is like people who have too much money and
- 30:31Speaker 2: not enough to do with it. But over there, you
- 30:33Speaker 2: can't purchase property without like living there for a certain
- 30:38Speaker 2: amount of time or having like there's certain like things.
- 30:41Speaker 1: There's a lot of countries like that, too. There's a
- 30:42Speaker 1: lot of brokerage. You can't just own property. I wish
- 30:45Speaker 1: we were like that. America's for sale, baby. We like you.
- 30:47Speaker 1: Come on. Anybody can come. Yep. It's true. Take all
- 30:51Speaker 1: our industry away.
- 30:51Speaker 2: That's why we don't make anything anymore. And then everybody's like, well,
- 30:55Speaker 2: what are we going to do as a country? And
- 30:56Speaker 2: it's like, we let everybody take everything from us, which, honestly,
- 30:59Speaker 2: kind of poetic.
- 31:00Speaker 1: But, I mean, not going to lie. It's karma swift. Right.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like being in it. I wish
- 31:08Speaker 1: I wasn't in it. But here we are.
- 31:11Speaker 2: So, yeah, I can understand what they're doing. I'm not
- 31:12Speaker 2: trying to victim blame here. I'm definitely not laughing at
- 31:14Speaker 2: the victims at all. I really feel bad for these
- 31:16Speaker 2: people just trying to get a home. But I'm also like,
- 31:19Speaker 2: come on, in the future, everybody, if you're listening to
- 31:21Speaker 2: this and you're in an immigrant community, I don't care
- 31:23Speaker 2: if there's a real estate mogul in your neighborhood. Like
- 31:25Speaker 2: you better be going everywhere with him and you better
- 31:27Speaker 2: not give any money to anybody other than the person
- 31:30Speaker 2: that you're purchasing a home from.
- 31:31Speaker 1: That's how real estate works. They're supposed to get a percentage.
- 31:33Speaker 1: They're never supposed to get money from you. Right.
- 31:35Speaker 2: You don't pay anybody directly. You also do look him up.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Like I would have wanted to know what his own
- 31:41Speaker 2: real estate portfolio was and what does that look like?
- 31:44Speaker 2: So I would have went to Acris and pulled, I
- 31:46Speaker 2: don't know what, if they have, I don't, I think
- 31:48Speaker 2: it's a New York thing. And so any dude I'm
- 31:51Speaker 2: fucking with who like I own a house, I'm like,
- 31:54Speaker 2: Let me put the name in. I'm looking at the deeds.
- 31:57Speaker 2: I'm looking to see if you actually bought it. I'm
- 31:59Speaker 2: looking to just, I need to understand the paperwork because
- 32:01Speaker 2: the math needs to match.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Because unless you buy it in a trust, it's public record. Right,
- 32:05Speaker 1: unless it's a trust. Mm-hmm.
- 32:06Speaker 2: And a lot of people make that mistake who are
- 32:08Speaker 2: public figures and buy things in their names and don't
- 32:09Speaker 2: realize then, you know, TMZ is driving past your house.
- 32:12Speaker 2: And that's where, like, I've been with friends who work
- 32:15Speaker 2: in TV and, like, been at their house and the
- 32:16Speaker 2: TMZ truck is driving past us, like, and that's where
- 32:19Speaker 2: she lives. I'm like, okay, you need to sell this one.
- 32:23Speaker 2: You got to put it in an LLC or some
- 32:24Speaker 2: other name, but, yeah. Yeah, your lawyer's name, something, not yours.
- 32:30Speaker 2: But that's the lesson that people have to learn sometimes.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Part of me wonders if there is like a flex
- 32:35Speaker 2: aspect to this, because Rashidun is known as this real
- 32:39Speaker 2: estate mogul, but he hasn't really produced any real estate
- 32:42Speaker 2: for these nine parties that have invested with him. So
- 32:45Speaker 2: I'm wondering if these people are also, you know, like
- 32:48Speaker 2: at the Bangladesh function, they're gahlud and they're like, oh,
- 32:51Speaker 2: you know, I just invested with Rashidun too. We gave
- 32:53Speaker 2: him $ 200, 000. We gave him $ 191, 000. I'm up to a million,
- 32:57Speaker 2: you know, like. like they want to flex on other
- 33:00Speaker 2: people in the community oh because also having this much
- 33:03Speaker 2: disposable income on you is kind of crazy well see
- 33:07Speaker 2: I don't I just have so many more questions like
- 33:11Speaker 2: For that family and the daughter in the basement, was
- 33:14Speaker 2: the $ 191, 000 given at one time or is it like
- 33:18Speaker 2: over time?
- 33:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:19Speaker 2: Like he keeps asking for more money for this and
- 33:22Speaker 2: for that and he's just siphoning it from them.
- 33:24Speaker 1: I think that's.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Definitely probably what happened just because of Aslam's situation where
- 33:28Speaker 2: he started with.
- 33:29Speaker 1: $ 200, 000 and it ended up being a million. One million, right. Yeah.
- 33:33Speaker 2: And that's also a good strategy, too, to get people
- 33:37Speaker 2: out to part with their money. It's like, oh, there's
- 33:39Speaker 2: the other fees and now we got licensing and, you know,
- 33:42Speaker 2: he's just making up American stuff.
- 33:43Speaker 1: That's not real. They always move the goalposts.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Because if he wants to ask Aslam for a million
- 33:47Speaker 2: dollars off RIP, he's like, no, I'm not giving you
- 33:49Speaker 2: a million or I need to seal these paperwork.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 33:52Speaker 2: If it's just a small amount, then I can slowly...
- 33:55Speaker 2: 50K here. Like, oh, we got to get it up
- 33:58Speaker 2: to code. That's going to be another 30K. Like, this
- 34:00Speaker 2: is how it works in America.
- 34:01Speaker 1: He's a grifter.
- 34:02Speaker 2: And I would believe him when he told me this
- 34:04Speaker 2: is how it works in America because we are the
- 34:06Speaker 2: land of the scams.
- 34:07Speaker 1: So... I'm sure it does in some facets. You know
- 34:10Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 34:11Speaker 2: You could be in a place, like, making money, and
- 34:12Speaker 2: the next thing you know, the city councilman comes to
- 34:14Speaker 2: shake you down.
- 34:15Speaker 1: The way you said that was, like, it happened to you. Like,
- 34:20Speaker 1: there was a little bit of, like, you knew that
- 34:22Speaker 1: on an intimate level. Like, do you want these permits?
- 34:25Speaker 1: Trying to film this podcast? Or not. Yeah.
- 34:29Speaker 2: So the house never materialized, right? And Rashad, or Rashidun,
- 34:33Speaker 2: he blames COVID and all of this stuff. Prosecutors say
- 34:36Speaker 2: Rashidun used the stolen money to pay off mortgages, personal expenses,
- 34:41Speaker 2: and to buy an apartment in Woodside in his wife
- 34:44Speaker 2: Jasmine's name.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Jasmine of the Jasmine House. Mm-hmm. So, different pockets in
- 34:51Speaker 1: the same pair of pants.
- 34:52Speaker 2: Rushy Dunn and Jasmine bought, sold, and transferred at least
- 34:57Speaker 2: six properties across Queens over the past two decades, often
- 35:01Speaker 2: within their family and sometimes for no money at all.
- 35:04Speaker 1: They included, like, the.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Colorful Astoria house that we saw and another multifamily building
- 35:09Speaker 2: in Jamaica, Queens that Jasmine is currently selling for $ 2.
- 35:12Speaker 1: 599 million. Jasmine, why are you not in jail, too? Right.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Why are you giving tours on Corcoran's TikTok? Right. But
- 35:22Speaker 1: also at the same time, I love a woman getting
- 35:24Speaker 1: away with a scam. Yeah, see your husband in jail.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Put a little money out of his books. She got
- 35:29Speaker 1: possible deniability. I had no idea that's what he was doing.
- 35:32Speaker 1: I had no idea. He the man. He bring home
- 35:34Speaker 1: the money. He told me to sign the paperwork. I
- 35:36Speaker 1: love it.
- 35:37Speaker 2: So public records show that homes were passed between Jasmine,
- 35:40Speaker 2: her sister-in-law, Jabui. Why is everybody in this?
- 35:44Speaker 1: The whole family. Jubaida.
- 35:48Speaker 2: And Tanny Fashion, which is a corporation the married couple used,
- 35:53Speaker 2: especially for real estate transactions. I'm sorry, I'm not doing
- 35:56Speaker 2: no transaction with nothing called Tanny Fashion.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Right. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I don't know about Tanny.
- 36:01Speaker 1: It's the fashion that really threw me. If you fashion,
- 36:03Speaker 1: why are we doing real estate? Why are we doing
- 36:05Speaker 1: real estate? Sounds like you've got your scams mixed up. Right.
- 36:08Speaker 1: So the sister-in-law first purchased the Jamaica property in 2008,
- 36:11Speaker 1: then transferred ownership to Jasmine a day later for $ 0.
- 36:16Speaker 1: You see? Skimming laundering. Right. Five years later, Jasmine sold
- 36:20Speaker 1: the building to Tani Fashion for $ 660, 000, then transferred ownership
- 36:26Speaker 1: back to herself in 2017 for $ 0. So there's also
- 36:30Speaker 1: some tax evasion happening here. Rashida bought the Astoria house
- 36:34Speaker 1: in 1999 and then transferred the ownership to Jasmine, who
- 36:37Speaker 1: sold it to the sister-in-law in 2008 for $ 805, 000.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Five days after that, the sister-in-law transferred the ownership back
- 36:45Speaker 2: to Jasmine. They reversed the process in 2014 and then
- 36:48Speaker 2: again in April 2025. According to public records, no money
- 36:52Speaker 2: ever changed hands. They just kept buying properties and transferring
- 36:56Speaker 2: them and buying them and transferring them to the cousin,
- 36:58Speaker 2: to the homie, tiny fashion, back to Jasmine. So a
- 37:02Speaker 2: forensic accountant described moving property ownership around this way like
- 37:07Speaker 2: using different pockets in the same pair of pants. which
- 37:09Speaker 2: helps obscure who actually owns things. So it's like, oh,
- 37:13Speaker 2: does Jasmine own it?
- 37:14Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Actually, Tani owns it.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Actually, Tani sold it back to Rashida the other day,
- 37:20Speaker 2: so we don't know who.
- 37:21Speaker 1: So now you can't even track who owns the property.
- 37:25Speaker 1: The wheels in my head are turning. Same.
- 37:29Speaker 2: So the Bangladeshi community in Queens, more than 100,000 people
- 37:33Speaker 2: from Bangladesh live in New York City, with many concentrated
- 37:36Speaker 2: in the Jamaica and Ozone Park neighborhoods in Queens. Of
- 37:40Speaker 2: the people Rashidun scammed, some can't afford lawyers. Others are
- 37:45Speaker 2: embarrassed that they lost their life savings, and many just
- 37:48Speaker 2: don't want to approach law enforcement at all right now because,
- 37:52Speaker 2: you know, according to experts, the current fear of immigration
- 37:56Speaker 2: and customs enforcement, ICE, is making scams in immigrant communities
- 38:00Speaker 2: more powerful.
- 38:01Speaker 1: That's so fucked up.
- 38:03Speaker 2: So now immigrants are, like, scared that they're going to
- 38:05Speaker 2: get deported if they call the cops, which, I mean,
- 38:08Speaker 2: the cops... I get scared if I have to call.
- 38:10Speaker 2: I don't call the cops if I have to. If
- 38:12Speaker 2: somebody's dying or there's an accident on the street or
- 38:14Speaker 2: something like that, I don't do the bystander effect. I'll
- 38:16Speaker 2: call or whatever. But call them to come to me.
- 38:19Speaker 2: I've had that done before. If you've read my book
- 38:21Speaker 2: and they definitely turned on me and I.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Was like, I called you. All the time. All the time. Yes.
- 38:27Speaker 2: So I understand them not calling the police. So fear
- 38:31Speaker 2: of ICE was keeping people silent. And so was embarrassment,
- 38:34Speaker 2: which we always say on the show, it's not as
- 38:36Speaker 2: There's no shame in being scammed. We can all be scammed.
- 38:38Speaker 2: We all have a vulnerability. Somebody could definitely get me.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Somebody's definitely got me.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Here we are. So even if.
- 38:46Speaker 2: They were legal and naturalized or naturalized American citizens from
- 38:50Speaker 2: immigrant families and they're here, they've done nothing wrong. They
- 38:53Speaker 2: still don't want to call the police because we know
- 38:54Speaker 2: that ICE is deporting anybody brown.
- 38:57Speaker 1: If you around and brown, we take you downtown.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what they're saying, actually. I think that's the motto.
- 39:03Speaker 2: I think that's it. That's what they teach you at
- 39:04Speaker 2: the academy. If you're around and brown.
- 39:06Speaker 1: Yeah. If you see them and they're around and they're brown,
- 39:08Speaker 1: take them downtown. Take them downtown. Which is fucked.
- 39:11Speaker 2: So they still have properties listed for sale. Both the
- 39:15Speaker 2: Astoria and the Jamaica properties in Jasmine's name are still
- 39:18Speaker 2: for sale today, but they are under a $ 1. 5 million
- 39:24Speaker 2: lien that was placed by the U.S. Attorney's Office. Equal
- 39:27Speaker 2: to the restitution, Rashidun was ordered to pay to his victims.
- 39:30Speaker 2: If they do sell, he may be forced to pay
- 39:33Speaker 2: people back. But for now, because Jasmine legally owns the
- 39:37Speaker 2: Astoria and Jamaica houses, she's not under any obligation to
- 39:41Speaker 2: pay her husband's legal penalties. So now, now we circle
- 39:45Speaker 2: back to why they don't, like, selling it to you,
- 39:48Speaker 2: buying it from you, giving it to me for zero dollars. Tanning, fashion,
- 39:52Speaker 2: you know, Rashida, Jasmine. This is all so they could
- 39:55Speaker 2: avoid liability, traceability, and now restitution.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Which is wild. They are so trifling. Wow.
- 40:05Speaker 2: So the asking price for the most colorful house in
- 40:08Speaker 2: Queens was reduced to $ 2.
- 40:09Speaker 1: 5 million in September. Rashidon is scheduled to be released
- 40:12Speaker 1: from prison in 2028. Wow. I just feel like... And
- 40:19Speaker 1: tell me what you think about this first. This scam.
- 40:25Speaker 1: It kind of feels like it worked a little bit.
- 40:27Speaker 2: I mean, he got the money, right? It feels like
- 40:30Speaker 2: it worked. Yeah, he had to do a bid. But
- 40:33Speaker 2: his wife is out. His wife is, yeah. And also,
- 40:36Speaker 2: does it seem like he was in jail for that long?
- 40:38Speaker 1: No.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Like, if he's going to be home in 2028, they're
- 40:42Speaker 2: selling all this property. Jasmine's on TikTok selling the stuff. Like,
- 40:47Speaker 2: they can get money from this. And when he comes out,
- 40:49Speaker 2: they're going to be up again. And they can just
- 40:51Speaker 2: move to the next community and do it again. Yeah,
- 40:54Speaker 2: I wonder where they live now. Because I feel like
- 40:56Speaker 2: they can't live in the same Queens community. They've got
- 40:59Speaker 2: to be social pariahs, right?
- 41:01Speaker 1: Who knows, honestly.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Because, you know, sometimes, too, in, like, these immigrant communities,
- 41:06Speaker 2: they protect people who.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Are, like, predators in other ways. Yeah, that's true. And
- 41:11Speaker 1: so I just think there's— I feel like every community
- 41:13Speaker 1: does that. Every community does.
- 41:15Speaker 2: So I think that— I think that, who knows? It might
- 41:17Speaker 2: be a culture of we don't talk about it, that
- 41:19Speaker 2: we whisper and we might be fake polite, but we're
- 41:22Speaker 2: not— I don't know.
- 41:23Speaker 1: That's true.
- 41:24Speaker 2: And it feels like these people have a lot of audacity.
- 41:27Speaker 2: So and even in the descriptors of some of the
- 41:29Speaker 2: victims saying that they didn't want to call the police,
- 41:31Speaker 2: whether it be for ice, whether it be for the
- 41:33Speaker 2: shame that they got scammed or maybe just like socially
- 41:36Speaker 2: not wanting to be, you know, maybe not wanting to
- 41:40Speaker 2: reveal that you've given your finances away.
- 41:42Speaker 1: And so now people know you're broke. Yeah. You got
- 41:46Speaker 1: a good point there.
- 41:48Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the scams that kind
- 41:50Speaker 2: of turns my stomach a little bit because I don't
- 41:52Speaker 2: feel like justice was served. He's not serving enough time
- 41:54Speaker 2: in jail. And these people will probably never get their
- 41:57Speaker 2: money back. And that's the big thing with these scams.
- 41:59Speaker 2: It's like there are actual victims and they may never,
- 42:03Speaker 2: ever get... They may never get their money back, which
- 42:05Speaker 2: is crazy. Because like you were saying before... with the
- 42:09Speaker 2: fake celebrity apology, what does that actually do for us? Like,
- 42:15Speaker 2: Rashida going to jail doesn't give me my money back.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Right. Right.
- 42:19Speaker 2: That's why they should have restorative justice. That's why Rashida...
- 42:24Speaker 2: The family should be like, you still here? Here's how
- 42:27Speaker 2: you work it off. I need my back scratched. Every
- 42:29Speaker 2: night I need my lawn tilled. Like, you got to
- 42:33Speaker 2: work this off. You working my laundromat now, Rashida. Now
- 42:36Speaker 2: it's indentured servitude.
- 42:38Speaker 1: No shade.
- 42:39Speaker 2: But, like, we talking about the slaves in Dubai, which
- 42:42Speaker 2: is crazy that they're taking people's passports. But that shit
- 42:45Speaker 2: should be relegated to people who have debts to serve
- 42:48Speaker 2: and who have restitutions to pay and they're never going
- 42:50Speaker 2: to make their victims whole.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Like, my family owns you now, Rashida. Rashida. Jasmine, y'all
- 42:55Speaker 1: better write these jokes. You can't give white people no
- 42:57Speaker 1: ideas because now they're going to be for restorative justice.
- 42:59Speaker 1: I believe in restorative justice. They're already putting us in
- 43:02Speaker 1: prison and making us slaves. We'd just be outside slaves.
- 43:05Speaker 2: You know this would immediately become something terrible. Yeah, but
- 43:07Speaker 2: I think restorative justice is actually truly rehabilitative. Yes, if
- 43:10Speaker 2: it was done correctly. If it was done, we don't
- 43:12Speaker 2: do anything right. But we know that in this country,
- 43:13Speaker 2: everything is bastardized immediately. Because, no, restorative justice in its
- 43:18Speaker 2: essence and in itself, when it's executed with checks and
- 43:20Speaker 2: balances and oversight, is absolutely what should be done. Like,
- 43:24Speaker 2: making people slaves in prison and then, like, institutionalizing them. Yeah,
- 43:26Speaker 2: why they gotta be slaves in the prison? Make them
- 43:28Speaker 2: be a slave in the lady basement. who she stole
- 43:31Speaker 2: with the daughter, and then make him work off his
- 43:33Speaker 2: debt to those families.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Right.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Or, like, at least he needs to be working a
- 43:37Speaker 2: job where, you know, he has room and board, but
- 43:40Speaker 2: then everything else that he makes.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Goes to the families. No, you don't get room and board.
- 43:44Speaker 1: That's a luxury. He gotta sleep and eat somewhere so
- 43:46Speaker 1: he can go to the job. He don't have to.
- 43:49Speaker 1: I know housing is a human right, but scamming is not.
- 43:52Speaker 1: So sorry. How he gonna get to work if he...
- 43:54Speaker 1: I don't know. Figure it out, bro.
- 43:57Speaker 2: You got seven chandeliers. You got plastic-covered couches. Grab one
- 44:01Speaker 2: of them shits.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Yeah. You need to sell everything in there. Also, I
- 44:05Speaker 1: don't know if these houses are ever gonna sell. They're hideous.
- 44:08Speaker 2: And like you said, the refraction of the light, like,
- 44:11Speaker 2: it's gonna keep that place hot. It's the worst thing
- 44:13Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There was not enough AC in there
- 44:14Speaker 2: to keep it cool. You know it's crazy in there.
- 44:16Speaker 1: Nobody's buying that house. Also, 2.5 million in Queens? Mm-hmm. Babes.
- 44:23Speaker 1: That's a house in L.A. We are in L.A., though.
- 44:26Speaker 2: So much of real estate is location, to be honest.
- 44:28Speaker 1: I know, but that's what I'm saying. So location-wise, the
- 44:32Speaker 1: story of it all is like, Babes, what are we
- 44:35Speaker 1: talking about? What are we talking about? I know if
- 44:37Speaker 1: you're from Queens, you're going to beat my ass after
- 44:39Speaker 1: this episode. I am so sorry. Come after Lacey directly. No,
- 44:42Speaker 1: this was Carrie. I love everyone in Queens. Carrie was
- 44:45Speaker 1: hating on Queens. You are a queen.
- 44:48Speaker 2: I love Astoria and all the famous people from Queens.
- 44:54Speaker 2: But I don't know any famous people from Astoria. There
- 44:57Speaker 2: are a lot of famous people from Queens. Nicki Minaj
- 44:59Speaker 2: is from Queens. Nas is from Queens.
- 45:01Speaker 1: You got to name a good one. 50 Cent is
- 45:03Speaker 1: from Queens. LL Cool J is from Queens. LL Cool J!
- 45:05Speaker 1: I only know musicians. I love LL Cool J. LL
- 45:09Speaker 1: Cool J is from Queens and we love him. He
- 45:12Speaker 1: done done some stuff. Oh yeah, he has done some stuff.
- 45:14Speaker 1: It's so hard. He's from Queens. Everyone from Queens has
- 45:17Speaker 1: done stuff. Yeah, but LL Cool J is great. We
- 45:19Speaker 1: love LL Cool J. And I love him. Yeah, ladies
- 45:21Speaker 1: love Queens. We got to find some more Queens people.
- 45:27Speaker 1: I'll think about it.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Y'all list some famous Queens people along with y'all's daddy's
- 45:31Speaker 2: names in the comments because we need to know.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Now, before I let you go, Carrie, I need to
- 45:39Speaker 1: talk to you about something. Something that happened on an
- 45:42Speaker 1: airplane not too long ago. There was a woman going
- 45:48Speaker 1: on a bachelorette party, going to enjoy her life. Oh. Oh,
- 45:52Speaker 1: you know?
- 45:53Speaker 2: Yes. But this woman is excited to go on her
- 45:55Speaker 2: bachelorette party. And you know when you are walking to the,
- 46:00Speaker 2: what is it called?
- 46:01Speaker 1: The gate. Yeah. So before you go to the gate.
- 46:04Speaker 1: We fly. We travel. It's called the gate. Yeah, the gate.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Before you get on the jet bridge, you know, there
- 46:10Speaker 2: is a check-in. Again, so you have to scan your
- 46:13Speaker 2: boarding pass. Or if it's international, you have to scan
- 46:15Speaker 2: your boarding pass and show your passport. Or they, you know,
- 46:17Speaker 2: have the scary technology where they look at your face.
- 46:20Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. This woman, she's excited about
- 46:23Speaker 2: her bachelor trip.
- 46:24Speaker 1: She puts her wallet down for a second, probably to
- 46:26Speaker 1: pull out her ID or, you know, grab her boarding pass.
- 46:29Speaker 1: And then she heads down the jet bridge. And then
- 46:32Speaker 1: she realizes, oh, my gosh, I left my wallet somewhere.
- 46:36Speaker 1: So she's checking all over the plane. She's checking her purse. Like,
- 46:38Speaker 1: there's enough time where she's boarding.
- 46:40Speaker 2: That's how I know she was excited because I board
- 46:42Speaker 2: planes like I'm Michelle Obama. Like, I want to walk
- 46:45Speaker 2: on the tarmac and get on the plane. I'm going
- 46:47Speaker 2: to be late as hell.
- 46:50Speaker 1: You're the last one. I've been the last one on
- 46:52Speaker 1: the plane so many times. Yeah. I didn't hold it up.
- 46:55Speaker 1: I mean, they was going to leave without me. Do
- 46:57Speaker 1: I got a little bead of sweat on me when
- 46:59Speaker 1: I get down?
- 46:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:59Speaker 1: You're hilarious. Yes. Have I gotten in a golf cart
- 47:02Speaker 1: many times in the airport? It was like straight away.
- 47:04Speaker 2: I always go on first because they go, do you
- 47:07Speaker 2: need more time? And yes, I always need more time. No,
- 47:09Speaker 2: I go on first and they still don't do that.
- 47:11Speaker 2: All it means is that I'm going to miss the
- 47:13Speaker 2: champagne serving.
- 47:14Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, sometimes I get bummed about that because
- 47:17Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I didn't get my shanty. I now
- 47:18Speaker 1: got to wait until we're in the air. I got
- 47:20Speaker 1: to wait 35,000 feet.
- 47:21Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's looking and I guess there's enough time
- 47:23Speaker 2: for her to get off of the plane and look
- 47:27Speaker 2: outside of the plane.
- 47:28Speaker 1: She's like, I know I have my wallet because I
- 47:29Speaker 1: pulled my ID out of my wallet.
- 47:31Speaker 2: To get on this flight. So she goes back to
- 47:34Speaker 2: the counter and there's no wallet to be found. Then
- 47:38Speaker 2: she's like, huh, well, it has to be on the
- 47:40Speaker 2: plane because there's nowhere else it could be. And I
- 47:43Speaker 2: looked through all my things and it's not there. So
- 47:45Speaker 2: she tells the flight attendants, hey, I don't know where
- 47:47Speaker 2: my wallet is. And there was a lovely woman on.
- 47:51Speaker 1: The flight who was like, hey, did your wallet look like, was.
- 47:54Speaker 2: It like a long, thin Louis Vuitton wallet? And she
- 47:57Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that was my wallet. And she said, okay,
- 48:00Speaker 2: I saw someone pick it up. She said it was
- 48:03Speaker 2: a woman with dark curly hair and she was white.
- 48:07Speaker 2: She was wearing chunky black Converse. Like she described her like-
- 48:11Speaker 2: The whole description, wow. I was like, girl, you need
- 48:13Speaker 2: to be like, Like, I've always thought whenever I watch
- 48:18Speaker 2: Law & Order SVU, when they give the description of
- 48:20Speaker 2: the criminal, I'm like, I can barely remember, like, the
- 48:22Speaker 2: things that, like, where my car is parked in a
- 48:25Speaker 2: parking garage when I go to the mall.
- 48:27Speaker 1: How are you remembering a full description of somebody? You
- 48:29Speaker 1: got to stay woke, Lacey. I know. I've been trying
- 48:31Speaker 1: to be more alert. We gotta talk about it. I'll
- 48:35Speaker 1: be looking right and left. I'll be trying.
- 48:37Speaker 2: Keep your head on a swivel.
- 48:43Speaker 1: It hurts. My neck is stabbed. Scams!
- 48:50Speaker 2: But I'm also wondering, like, the logistics. So you stole
- 48:55Speaker 2: the wallet. You took the cash out. You put the
- 48:58Speaker 2: cash someplace else. Then put the wallet into your carry-on. Like,
- 49:02Speaker 2: I'm also just so confused. Because the wallet is worth
- 49:04Speaker 2: money as well. Because it's a designer wallet.
- 49:06Speaker 1: Right.
- 49:06Speaker 2: So I think she was like, I already got my
- 49:08Speaker 2: own wallet. But this designer one, I'm going to put
- 49:09Speaker 2: this on Poshmark later. So I'm just going to throw
- 49:11Speaker 2: this in my bag. So many steps she had to
- 49:13Speaker 2: go through. Yeah.
- 49:13Speaker 1: So she took the cash out.
- 49:15Speaker 2: And so she must have been fiddling around doing this
- 49:18Speaker 2: while the commotion was going on.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not on the plane. We were not boarding.
- 49:22Speaker 1: What's going on? I feel like we were on the plane.
- 49:24Speaker 1: We were not on Frontier. I don't know, we were
- 49:25Speaker 1: not on Frontier, but, you know, we were there in spirit.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Not on Spirit either. We were also not on Spirit.
- 49:32Speaker 1: We were not.
- 49:33Speaker 2: Listen, I don't read classes. I tried to take Spirit
- 49:36Speaker 2: back in the day. When I say tried, it's because
- 49:38Speaker 2: they would pull off like a Greyhound bus sometimes. They
- 49:39Speaker 2: would leave early. They just shout your name, and if
- 49:41Speaker 2: you weren't there, they was like... No, Spirit was reliable
- 49:44Speaker 2: back in the day. I had a little booth thing
- 49:45Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I used to go back and forth all
- 49:47Speaker 2: the time. And Spirit always landed safely, okay? Can't say
- 49:50Speaker 2: that about Frontier. Can't say that about America. Can't say
- 49:52Speaker 2: that about Delta.
- 49:52Speaker 1: But Spirit, you would get... You would land. You would
- 49:54Speaker 1: get there.
- 49:55Speaker 2: That was their brand. You gon' land, okay? Anything in between,
- 49:59Speaker 2: we don't know. But you go ahead. What also struck me, too,
- 50:02Speaker 2: is that when they were like, oh, there's money in
- 50:05Speaker 2: the wallet, she was also being hesitant about giving the
- 50:09Speaker 2: money back.
- 50:09Speaker 1: Yeah, she was.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Like, the privilege that she had through this whole experience. Like,
- 50:13Speaker 2: we talk about robbery. It's in the theme song of
- 50:14Speaker 2: this show. And I haven't talked about a robbery in
- 50:16Speaker 2: a while. But this is the stupidest fucking robbery I've
- 50:18Speaker 2: seen in a long time. Why are you robbing someone
- 50:21Speaker 2: at the airport?
- 50:22Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 50:24Speaker 2: With a T and an S in the air? She
- 50:25Speaker 2: almost got away with it, though. She almost got away
- 50:27Speaker 2: with it.
- 50:28Speaker 1: Did she?
- 50:28Speaker 2: If somebody didn't give her that description, like, she, like,
- 50:34Speaker 2: and then, yeah, she, I mean. And she's also lucky
- 50:37Speaker 2: that this black woman, because I watched this and I
- 50:39Speaker 2: was infuriated.
- 50:40Speaker 1: She got the right black.
- 50:42Speaker 2: But she got a black woman who was so composed
- 50:44Speaker 2: and so nice and so sweet that everybody.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Was like, we got to help this baby. You know,
- 50:48Speaker 1: because I feel like if the black woman had been angry,
- 50:50Speaker 1: even though she would have rightfully so, like, rightfully to
- 50:53Speaker 1: be angry, right? Mm-hmm.
- 50:55Speaker 2: They would have been like, oh, she's aggressive. And that's
- 50:57Speaker 2: what that white woman was hoping for. She was hoping
- 50:59Speaker 2: for her to get angry.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I also watched another black woman who was sitting
- 51:02Speaker 1: in the first row, the one with the red curly hair.
- 51:07Speaker 1: She hopped up out of her seat and careened over
- 51:09Speaker 1: the corner and was like, you need your ass beat.
- 51:12Speaker 1: She's right. I said, not the other passengers trying to
- 51:15Speaker 1: whoop ass for you. I wonder what happened to the lady.
- 51:18Speaker 1: She got arrested. She got arrested. I hope so.
- 51:21Speaker 2: And charges will be filed. But the thing is, is
- 51:24Speaker 2: like when you commit a crime and she's also on
- 51:26Speaker 2: the no fly list.
- 51:27Speaker 1: Oh, OK. Yeah. So but my thing is, is in
- 51:31Speaker 1: the airport, if you commit a crime in an airport,
- 51:35Speaker 1: it's no longer a misdemeanor. Right. It's a felony. Yep.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Why would you be doing felonies at the airport? This
- 51:44Speaker 1: is the wrong place to do robbery. It's the wrong place.
- 51:46Speaker 1: It is the wrong place. Like, I would never do anything.
- 51:49Speaker 1: When I go to the airport, I'm quiet. Like, I
- 51:51Speaker 1: walk my head straight.
- 51:53Speaker 2: Honestly, the airport, I don't even know if I want
- 51:55Speaker 2: to say this because y'all might try to try me,
- 51:57Speaker 2: but if you tried me in the airport, you might.
- 51:59Speaker 1: Get away with it. You might get away with it.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Come over, you could trip me. I'd be like, oh,
- 52:04Speaker 1: I must have fell. Come over, do anything. I'd be like, oh.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Like, I'm not getting on nobody's no-fly list. I'm not
- 52:10Speaker 2: being in nobody's TSA jail.
- 52:11Speaker 1: That's wild. That is wild. So, yeah.
- 52:15Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about this because I was just like,
- 52:17Speaker 2: this is not a place to rob people. It's not
- 52:19Speaker 2: a place to rob people. And she almost got away
- 52:21Speaker 2: with it. And I like that somebody was like, did
- 52:23Speaker 2: you check the wallet though? Like, because she was, she
- 52:26Speaker 2: was already back at the gate with the lady's thousand
- 52:29Speaker 2: dollars and a hundred bills in her pocket on her person.
- 52:32Speaker 1: Right. So crazy.
- 52:34Speaker 2: And also maybe that's why that flight attendant to me
- 52:36Speaker 2: was really smart too, because he didn't hand her the wallet.
- 52:39Speaker 2: He held onto the wallet because what if she said
- 52:42Speaker 2: like the, the bachelorette girl said.
- 52:44Speaker 1: Oh, I had a thousand dollars in here. And she
- 52:47Speaker 1: had already taken it out of the wallet and hid
- 52:48Speaker 1: it and was lying about it. You know what I mean? No.
- 52:51Speaker 2: I mean, like, so if the wallet was immediately returned
- 52:54Speaker 2: to the bachelorette girl, and then the bachelorette girl was like,
- 52:59Speaker 2: I also had $ 1, 000 in here. Then it's like, we
- 53:01Speaker 2: wouldn't know if the bachelorette girl took the money. But
- 53:03Speaker 2: since the wallet was transferred to the TSA guy or
- 53:06Speaker 2: the flight attendant, she hadn't even touched her wallet yet.
- 53:10Speaker 1: So if there was money missing... We know she didn't
- 53:13Speaker 1: take it. Got it. You get what I'm saying?
- 53:15Speaker 2: Like, sometimes when people lose something and they put a
- 53:17Speaker 2: reward on it and they get it back, they might.
- 53:18Speaker 1: That's your scammer brain working.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Because I would have never have thought that the lady
- 53:22Speaker 2: who just got her wallet back also just stole her
- 53:25Speaker 2: own money to them. Like, my mind went, okay, make
- 53:28Speaker 2: sure that you undercount this money. Like, that's what my
- 53:31Speaker 2: scammer mind meant. But see, that's still kind of the
- 53:32Speaker 2: same thing. It is, but the way that you did
- 53:35Speaker 2: it is diabolical. You took, like, the craziest route to
- 53:38Speaker 2: her scamming these people. They would have been like, check
- 53:40Speaker 2: the money, and I would have been like, 100, 200, 500?
- 53:42Speaker 1: Oh, no. I had... This is short. I had $ 10, 000
- 53:46Speaker 1: in here. I had a million... I had rubles, bitch.
- 53:49Speaker 1: Where are my rubles? Where's the loose diamonds I had
- 53:52Speaker 1: in here? Exactly. I had a rare Egyptian... They're like, ma'am,
- 53:57Speaker 1: you're on a frontier flight in the middle seat. Be serious. Right.
- 54:00Speaker 1: That part, though. That's how they would have caught me.
- 54:04Speaker 1: That's how they would have caught me. That's how they
- 54:06Speaker 1: would have caught me. Yeah, but like.
- 54:09Speaker 2: Also, just the audacity of this woman and the reluctance
- 54:11Speaker 2: throughout the entire process, that would have got me heated.
- 54:14Speaker 1: I think she handled it pretty well, though. No, I
- 54:16Speaker 1: mean the thief. This is what.
- 54:18Speaker 2: I think the thief handled it well. She said, no,
- 54:20Speaker 2: I didn't have it. They're like, we're going to check
- 54:21Speaker 2: the camera.
- 54:22Speaker 1: She said... she didn't say anything. A bitch like me,
- 54:27Speaker 1: if I had stolen it, I'd have been like, this
- 54:29Speaker 1: is racism. I would have caused, I'd have been so wrong,
- 54:33Speaker 1: but I would have caused such a scene. So I
- 54:34Speaker 1: think she handled it very well.
- 54:36Speaker 2: I didn't like the nuisance of it all because she
- 54:39Speaker 2: had an opportunity to not do this because the black
- 54:41Speaker 2: girl came up to her first and said, someone said
- 54:43Speaker 2: you took my wallet. And I would have been like,
- 54:46Speaker 2: The jig is up at that point. I would have
- 54:48Speaker 2: been like, oh my gosh, yes I did. And I
- 54:50Speaker 2: have it for you right here. I was going to
- 54:52Speaker 2: ask on the plane. You know, I was trying to
- 54:54Speaker 2: be a good Samaritan. I'm trying to get out of this.
- 54:56Speaker 2: If you get caught in a lie, the rule is
- 54:58Speaker 2: to keep lying. That is me lying. I'm being like,
- 55:01Speaker 2: I found a wallet and I thought somebody would need it. Oh,
- 55:04Speaker 2: I'm so glad I caught you.
- 55:08Speaker 1: Here you go. And I'll turn to the corner real
- 55:10Speaker 1: quick with the money back. Here you go. Have a
- 55:14Speaker 1: great Bachelorette. You just took the money out to keep
- 55:16Speaker 1: it safe from the thief. Yeah. Like, I took it out. Yeah.
- 55:19Speaker 1: That's all. Okay.
- 55:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Then I'm like, sit on down, Bachelorette. You have a
- 55:22Speaker 1: good time. You get you one of those little airplane
- 55:24Speaker 1: gray gooses on me, okay? You know what's hilarious? I'm
- 55:27Speaker 1: not getting a kick about the flight.
- 55:28Speaker 2: We have the same philosophy, but different ways of going
- 55:31Speaker 2: about it. Like, every time, you're like, I would have lied,
- 55:34Speaker 2: but your lie is a different lie than my lie.
- 55:36Speaker 1: No, we're still lying. Yeah, we're still lying. I'm going
- 55:39Speaker 1: to double down. Yeah. We can't tell the truth. No,
- 55:42Speaker 1: you can't. That's not going to help. You can't.
- 55:44Speaker 2: I learned that early as a kid. Like, if you
- 55:46Speaker 2: get caught lying, you don't get points for then being.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Honest about lying. You really don't. Now you're just a liar.
- 55:52Speaker 1: So just don't lie or lie. Okay? Lie. Lie. Believe
- 55:58Speaker 1: your own lie. You in it now. Delusional levels of lying. Right,
- 56:02Speaker 1: because nobody's ever going to think like, oh, well, you're
- 56:05Speaker 1: so great for telling us the truth now. No, you
- 56:07Speaker 1: already lied. You a liar. So you might as well
- 56:09Speaker 1: keep lying. You got to keep lying. Yeah, yeah. We
- 56:11Speaker 1: on the same page. But I'm trying to tell the
- 56:12Speaker 1: lie that's going to keep me on the flight. I'm like, yeah.
- 56:15Speaker 1: I was looking for who this belonged to. I'm glad
- 56:17Speaker 1: I got it back to you. You and your husband,
- 56:19Speaker 1: I hope y'all have great nuptials. Mm-hmm.
- 56:21Speaker 2: I was actually going to have the flight attendant make
- 56:23Speaker 2: an announcement. Yeah, I was waiting for everybody to get planes.
- 56:26Speaker 2: To get sweetie, because there was still more people coming on. Yeah,
- 56:28Speaker 2: so I wanted to be a full announcement. And I
- 56:29Speaker 2: didn't know whose own it was going to be.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Yeah, because we need everybody seated on the plane before
- 56:32Speaker 1: the announcement happens, so then we can make sure we
- 56:35Speaker 1: get it to the right person. Exactly, I just wanted
- 56:36Speaker 1: to make sure.
- 56:36Speaker 2: I was making sure that it landed safely at the
- 56:39Speaker 2: destination that we was all going to. I think she
- 56:41Speaker 2: would have got away with it, because I would have
- 56:42Speaker 2: just been like, you know, She.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Didn't even have no fight in her. She didn't. That's
- 56:45Speaker 1: what I didn't like about her. It's like, oh, you,
- 56:47Speaker 1: I don't know. Is this racial?
- 56:48Speaker 2: Do you think because you robbing a negress that it's
- 56:50Speaker 2: not worth your time to lie to me?
- 56:51Speaker 1: Like, you just went, here, damn. And then close your
- 56:54Speaker 1: bin bag like you still going to fly?
- 56:55Speaker 2: Yeah, the closing of the bin was crazy. I would
- 56:58Speaker 2: have been like, here you go. And I would have
- 57:00Speaker 2: just put the cuffs on. I would have just handed
- 57:01Speaker 2: out my hand like, mm-hmm.
- 57:03Speaker 1: Just do it. Just take me on the purple walk.
- 57:06Speaker 1: You know what?
- 57:07Speaker 2: At least I'm going to give it back. I would have, right,
- 57:10Speaker 2: taken my shit out. And then I would try to
- 57:11Speaker 2: walk off the plane like, I can't make this one. Like,
- 57:13Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the fuck ASAP. Like, maybe they
- 57:15Speaker 2: can't catch me. You ever fake be on the phone
- 57:17Speaker 2: too when you're an awkward moment?
- 57:18Speaker 1: You be like, hold on, guys. Sorry, you know. It's
- 57:21Speaker 1: my daughter. It's my daughter. Yeah, what's up, sweetheart? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
- 57:25Speaker 1: do something. Something. Fight back. I had just hated the
- 57:28Speaker 1: disdain that she had. Like, at least lie to me. Like,
- 57:30Speaker 1: come on. Ugh. Ugh. It's terrible. Yes. Well, that brings
- 57:34Speaker 1: us to the end of a great episode, Keri. Aw,
- 57:36Speaker 1: that was so much fun. Thank you for being here.
- 57:38Speaker 1: It was so much fun. Thank you for having me.
- 57:40Speaker 1: Is there anything you'd like to plug? Where can people
- 57:42Speaker 1: find you?
- 57:43Speaker 2: All of the things. I'm doing my one-woman show called
- 57:47Speaker 2: Mudhole in New York City in November, November 4th, at
- 57:51Speaker 2: Ars Nova. It's produced by Lena Waithe. We're doing a talkback. And, um, no,
- 57:56Speaker 2: there's a.
- 57:57Speaker 1: There's a lot of hustling, scheming, and scamming in that.
- 57:59Speaker 2: So if you listen to this, you should come see
- 58:01Speaker 2: my home.
- 58:01Speaker 1: Yes, pull up to the show. You're going to love it.
- 58:04Speaker 1: You know y'all already love Gary. Yes.
- 58:06Speaker 2: And as always, y'all, you can snitch on your friends
- 58:08Speaker 2: and your family and your enemies at ScamGoddessPod at gmail.com.
- 58:12Speaker 1: And, you know, buy my book. Read my book.
- 58:14Speaker 2: All of my scams that are in there, the ones
- 58:16Speaker 2: that I don't cover on the show. You know, you
- 58:17Speaker 2: got to keep some scams a secret, okay?
- 58:20Speaker 1: And hardback.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Yep.
- 58:22Speaker 1: You gotta pay.
- 58:23Speaker 2: And you can watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. All of
- 58:26Speaker 2: the first season is out on Hulu now. You can
- 58:28Speaker 2: watch Going Dutch on Hulu. You can watch my movies
- 58:29Speaker 2: on Netflix. You can go watch me. Put me in
- 58:31Speaker 2: your eyeballs. Watch us on YouTube. Go on Scam Goddess
- 58:34Speaker 2: Pod on Instagram if you want to see the visuals, okay?
- 58:38Speaker 1: Unlike Beyonce, you are not the visuals, okay? You can
- 58:40Speaker 1: go watch the visuals. I'm still mad at that lady
- 58:44Speaker 1: for not giving us those visuals. She won't let us
- 58:46Speaker 1: buy them. She said, were you in the theater? Did
- 58:48Speaker 1: you open your eyes good? Nope.
- 58:51Speaker 2: I went, And we were dancing. We had our fans clacking.
- 58:54Speaker 1: And I was at the concert. Went twice. And was
- 58:57Speaker 1: going to go a third time. Still bought the tickets.
- 58:58Speaker 1: Didn't end up making it. Gave them to my mama.
- 59:00Speaker 1: I'll be giving that lady all my money. Everybody's like,
- 59:02Speaker 1: we doing act three? I'm like, can we wait, guys?
- 59:05Speaker 1: It's like, in this economy. We try to recoup. Right.
- 59:08Speaker 1: Beyonce knows in this economy. Mm-hmm. That's another skim. Oh, sorry.
- 59:13Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. No, no, no, no, no. Whoops. Sometimes
- 59:17Speaker 1: skims are good. Sometimes skims are good, okay? I'll be
- 59:19Speaker 1: giving that lady all my money.
- 59:20Speaker 2: And she know the first and the 15th, okay?
- 59:22Speaker 1: She know when to come in. Right around the 22nd,
- 59:25Speaker 1: when everybody's recouped a little bit, she be like, it's
- 59:27Speaker 1: time for me to take some money from you. Love it.
- 59:30Speaker 2: All right, congregation, I want you to get out there
- 59:32Speaker 2: and be a queen, even if you're an Astoria.