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Hour 2: Future of late night TV. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: It's more a more mister New York on sevent ten.
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Speaker 2: W R.
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Speaker 3: Well, So the Guthrie kidnapping, Savannah Guthrie's mother, now they're
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Speaker 3: getting things are coming out slowly, being released, very slowly.
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Speaker 3: Apparently neighbors did see a mysterious white van before the
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Speaker 3: mother vanished. Though, there was a mysterious white van that
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Speaker 3: was somewhere near the house. That would they believe it
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Speaker 3: was multiple kidnappers, because you'd need multiple kidnappers, especially once
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Speaker 3: you have her. Somebody's got to watch her, somebody's got
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Speaker 3: to go out and get food, somebody's got to do this.
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Speaker 3: A van obviously makes it a lot easier for a kidnapping.
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Speaker 3: So they did spot it. They're not saying exactly why,
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Speaker 3: but they believe it was targeted. They believe the kidnappers
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Speaker 3: knew who this woman was, knew that it was Savannah
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Speaker 3: Guthries mother. Now you got to figure that they thought
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Speaker 3: that that meant to be more money to get out
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Speaker 3: of Savannah Guthrie. It doesn't happen as often as you
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Speaker 3: would think where kidnappers look for the relative of a
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Speaker 3: very famous, wealthy person, but it has happened before. Frank
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Speaker 3: Sinatra's son, the most famous case, but members Calvin Klein too.
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Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy eight. Calvin Klein, who was as big as
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Speaker 3: could be back then, they kidnapped his daughter Marcy. She
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Speaker 3: was only eleven years old, then kidnapped here in New York.
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Speaker 3: But that was over pretty fast. I think about twelve
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Speaker 3: hours later they found her. They did pay one hundred
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars ransom, which would be like a million dollars today.
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Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen as often as you'd think, so
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Speaker 3: we'll keep following the story for you. Hey, Scott Besson,
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Speaker 3: great job yesterday testifying. Actually was the day before Scott
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Speaker 3: Besson testifying in front of Democrats in Congress, and they
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Speaker 3: were yelling and screaming at him and just awful. It
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Speaker 3: was just out of control beating up on Scott Besson.
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Speaker 3: But he was great. Then Elizabeth Warren is the question
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Speaker 3: we played to the ones yesterday, the nutjobs like Elizabeth
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Speaker 3: Warren yelling and screaming at him. Warren was more calm,
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Speaker 3: but Bessett was great answering her, and he kept he
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Speaker 3: kept saying, you know, when she's trying to say how
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Speaker 3: bad things were, He kept pointing out it was much
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Speaker 3: worse before, and he called it the Warren Biden economy,
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Speaker 3: the Warren Biden economy. Listen to this, So let me
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Speaker 3: make sure that I understand.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not saying that affordability what's happening to
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Speaker 1: families right now is a hoax.
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Speaker 3: He is saying that trying to lay the blame at
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Speaker 3: this administration rather than the Biden Warren economy is a hoax.
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Speaker 3: He kept repeating that Althrough's testimony the Biden Warren economy,
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Speaker 3: the Biden Warren economy. Hey also speaking of this, Scott
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Speaker 3: Bessett revealing things going on in Iran. You know, the revolution,
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Speaker 3: the revolt continues in Iran. We believe that the Iranian
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Speaker 3: leaders are very worried that the revolution will succeed. They're
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Speaker 3: already planning their getaway if they have to. The Iranian
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Speaker 3: leaders planning to go to Russia. I guess Russia. Putin
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Speaker 3: has said he will take care of them, and they've
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Speaker 3: come up with the plan. There's about eleven people this
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Speaker 3: Shaw not to show the Ayatola and eleven of his
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Speaker 3: closest people will go there. But bessn't saying yesterday. They
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Speaker 3: now know that these Iranian leaders are wiring money out
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Speaker 3: of the country like crazy. They're wiring tons of money
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Speaker 3: out of the country, which means most likely they are
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Speaker 3: getting ready to flee if they're wiring all that money away.
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Speaker 3: So hey, a lot of fighting about the shutdown, stuff
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Speaker 3: about defunding Homeland Security, which you can't do. Everything's in
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Speaker 3: that department TSA, THEEMA, Secret Service can't defund it. But
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Speaker 3: they're fighting. But this the other thing, Schumer's fighting about
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Speaker 3: his voter ID. Chuck Schumer fighting about voter ID. You know,
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Speaker 3: the Democrats keep pushing this ridiculous racist narrative that the
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Speaker 3: reason you can't have voter ID is minority voters don't
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Speaker 3: know how to get an ID, they don't have a
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Speaker 3: driver's Like, what kind of racist nonsense is that? If
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Speaker 3: you think about it, it's absolutely ridiculous. It's twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: six to keep pushing this line that you can't require
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Speaker 3: ID because minorities like they don't have IDA, they wouldn't
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Speaker 3: even know how to get an ID. They it wouldn't
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Speaker 3: be capable of getting an ID. What kind of ridiculous,
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Speaker 3: idiotic nonsense is it? But these old, old old dinosaurs
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Speaker 3: like Schumer keep pushing this, and they they'll sell you.
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Speaker 3: It's Jim Crow. You know, I don't think he knows.
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Speaker 3: Nobody under seventy five knows what the hell Jim Crow is.
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Speaker 3: They don't know what he's talking about.
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Speaker 4: What they're trying to do here is the same thing
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Speaker 4: that was done in the South for decades to prevent
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Speaker 4: people of color from voting. For instance, if you can't
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Speaker 4: if you change you're a woman who got married and
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Speaker 4: changed your last name, you won't be able to show
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Speaker 4: ID and you'll be discriminated against. If you can't find
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Speaker 4: a birth certificate or a proper ID, you'll be discriminated against.
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Speaker 4: This is vicious and nasty. What the hell is this
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Speaker 4: lunatic talking about? You know, a lot of women get
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Speaker 4: married and they get a married name instead of a
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Speaker 4: maiden name. This happens all the time, every day, every
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Speaker 4: second they all vote the what is he talking about?
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Speaker 4: Bloomenthal making the same speech. You people in Connecticut don't
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Speaker 4: laugh at us for having Chuck Schumer. You got Richard Blumenthal,
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Speaker 4: who's is dirty and sleazy and slimy. As you ever
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Speaker 4: watched Blumenthal on TV, and if you have high definition TV,
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Speaker 4: you can actually see the slime dripping off him, it's amazing.
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Speaker 4: So super Bowl this Sunday. Bad Bunny is the President.
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Speaker 4: You know, normally the President would go to the super Bowl,
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Speaker 4: but he's not gonna go. He says it's too far,
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Speaker 4: it's California. But I think it's because that wants to
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Speaker 4: sit through Bad Bunny and you know this bad Bunny
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Speaker 4: might attack him in the middle of the show.
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Speaker 3: Why be sitting there? The White House Press Secretary Caroline
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Speaker 3: Levitt was asked about this.
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Speaker 2: I think the President would much prefer a kid rock
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Speaker 2: performance over Bad Bunny.
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Speaker 3: I must say that, Yeah, I think so. So now
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Speaker 3: he's going to go to a palm beach for the weekend,
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Speaker 3: mar A Lago. In fact, he's gonna leave a little
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Speaker 3: early today. Normally leaves it five. He's gonna leave at
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Speaker 3: three o'clock today, head to Florida. Missed the bitter cold weekend.
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Speaker 3: At mar A Lago. They always have a big super
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Speaker 3: Bowl party. That's one of the big, big, big events
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Speaker 3: there every season mar A Lago the super Bowl party.
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Speaker 3: So he'll be for be there for that Sunday night
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Speaker 3: super Bowl is over about like nine thirty or ten.
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Speaker 3: Then it'll head back to Washington, get back in the
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Speaker 3: White House about twelve thirty one in the morning, get
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Speaker 3: two three hours of sleep, and then put in an
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Speaker 3: eighteen hour day the next day. It's not like Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: He's different. Now, Hey, the Olympics opens. When does it
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Speaker 3: open today? Right? Yeah? I don't know who is doing
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Speaker 3: the marketing public relations for this year's Olympics, but I
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Speaker 3: don't think I would hire them. Have you ever seen
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Speaker 3: less build up to an Olympics. You really don't get
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Speaker 3: a lot of anything about the Olympics going on. But
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Speaker 3: it starts today later today, Winter Olympics. I don't know
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Speaker 3: anything about it. I don't follow the Olympics. Mom. Donnie
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Speaker 3: getting a lot of flack, a lot of flack. Now,
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Speaker 3: we know he's a left wing wacko. But we've had
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Speaker 3: left wing wackos before, you know. But when you get
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Speaker 3: a left wing wacko a Bernie Sanders, or at least
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Speaker 3: they've been in government for a while, this guy hasn't
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Speaker 3: been in government. He hasn't been in anything. I even
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Speaker 3: like a state assemblyman for two weeks, but that's a
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Speaker 3: part time job. It's not a full time job. That
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Speaker 3: state assembly is not full time. But he's never actually
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Speaker 3: been employed anywhere, had a job. He's never gone to
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Speaker 3: work nine to five, five days a week. You know
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Speaker 3: this guy, I bit you. This guy's never owned an
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Speaker 3: alarm clock, never needed one. So can you imagine your
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Speaker 3: first job ever? Entry level job mayor of New York City.
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Speaker 3: So he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. He's
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Speaker 3: just crazy, and of course he expects some left wing
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Speaker 3: cook stuff, but he is really setting new records. Everybody
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Speaker 3: is stunned at his behavior. This week, there's a maniac
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Speaker 3: with a butcher knife going insane in his house. The
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Speaker 3: family calls the police, calls nine to one one, ask
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Speaker 3: for the police to please hurry, get over there. They
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Speaker 3: get over there. There's the maniac. It's I guess it's
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Speaker 3: the husband or whoever it is. But he's got a
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Speaker 3: massive knife, like a butcher knife, screaming and yelling. The cops,
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Speaker 3: guns drawn, yelling at him, put the knife down, put
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Speaker 3: the knife down. They can't get him to drop the knife.
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Speaker 3: Finally he charges the cops with this big, huge knife
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Speaker 3: and they have to shoot him. Mom Donnie. Instead of
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Speaker 3: rushing to see if the CoP's okay, Mom Donnie rushes
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Speaker 3: to the hospital to visit the lunatic. Can you imagine this?
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Speaker 3: You ever heard of such a thing? Maniac with a
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Speaker 3: knife tries to kill a cop. Luckily the cop is
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Speaker 3: able to stop him. Mom Donnie rushes to the maniac,
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Speaker 3: are you okay? What kind of idiot are we dealing with?
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Speaker 1: This?
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Speaker 2: Is?
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Speaker 3: I mean, even de Blasio would know better, even to Blasio,
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Speaker 3: go to the cops, the cop is the officer all right,
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Speaker 3: is it okay? Or go to the family. Are you okay?
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Speaker 3: But to rush to the hospital to make sure the
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Speaker 3: maniac is being taken care of, make sure the lunatic
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Speaker 3: is okay? Unbelievable, just amazing. Now, I think the most
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Speaker 3: important thing in November that we get Bruce Blakeman as governor.
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Speaker 3: Common sense does a great job best county executive, which
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Speaker 3: is like a governor job, best county executive in America.
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Speaker 3: You want to have Bruce Blakeman wh November. He's got
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Speaker 3: a very good chance. Hocel one minute she's pandering, one
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Speaker 3: minute she's caving in, either pandering or caving in to somebody.
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Speaker 3: She was terrified of. Mam Donnie and his army. Mam
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Speaker 3: Donnie has an army, a very effective election workers, and
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Speaker 3: all that stuff. And he's been threatening her that she
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Speaker 3: better fall in line with him, and she caved in,
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Speaker 3: and she has because she doesn't want his army out
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Speaker 3: there screwing up her her election chances in November. So
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Speaker 3: she's agreed to do whatever the hell Mam Donnie wants.
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Speaker 3: That's why she picked this real left wing lunatic, Adrian
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Speaker 3: Adams to be her running mate. Adrian Adams, the city
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Speaker 3: council speaker, a real left wing kouk. Last person you
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Speaker 3: want is lieutenant governor. Hey, and remember, don't say what
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Speaker 3: lieutenant governor doesn't anything. Governors go away a lot and
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Speaker 3: we end up with the lieutenant governor that a lot
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Speaker 3: of governors have had to lead. From Spitzer to Cuomo.
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Speaker 3: Spitzer left, he got David Patterson, who was great. It
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Speaker 3: was a phenomenal governor. So that was fine. But Cuomo leaves,
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Speaker 3: and that's how you got Kathy Hokeel, and so Adrian Adams,
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Speaker 3: you don't want her second in command there, it's just
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Speaker 3: a now. Hokeel finally got because she caved in, did
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Speaker 3: whatever Mom Donnie wanted. He endorsed her yesterday, he officially
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Speaker 3: endorsed Kathy Hochel.
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Speaker 1: This is an endorsement that I make as a reflection
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Speaker 1: of how Governor Hochele is leading this state, and that
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Speaker 1: leadership has included transforming the relationship between the city and
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Speaker 1: state from one that has often been characterized by pettiness
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Speaker 1: and making it one that is characterized more by productivity.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds very good what he just said. I
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Speaker 3: don't know what the hell he said. Does that mean,
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Speaker 3: transform the relationship between city and state. I guess what
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Speaker 3: that means is she'll do whatever the hell he wants.
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Speaker 3: Now he controls her. Now this is bad news because
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Speaker 3: he wants to raise taxes. The mayor doesn't have the
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Speaker 3: power to raise taxes, but the governor certainly does. And
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Speaker 3: that means they've made some kind of deal, which means
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Speaker 3: she'll campaign saying no tax increase, no tax increase, and
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Speaker 3: then as soon as the election is over, tax increase.
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Speaker 3: Remember she did that with congestion pricing. Remember she said,
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Speaker 3: no congestion pricing is off, it's off the table, it's
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Speaker 3: dropped till the election was over. Next day, congestion pricing.
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Speaker 3: So she'll do that with taxes. Mom, Donnie give them credit.
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Speaker 3: The garbage got picked up a little late, but it's
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Speaker 3: getting picked up. Snow is still out there. The cold
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Speaker 3: is this what do you call this? Code blue has
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Speaker 3: been on nineteen days now.
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Speaker 1: This cold snap might end up becoming the coldest period
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Speaker 1: in recorded history in New York City. And it is
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Speaker 1: a cold blue here in New York City, which means
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Speaker 1: that every time a New Yorker calls three one one,
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Speaker 1: we reroute that to nine one one. We're looking to
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Speaker 1: bring everyone inside.
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Speaker 3: It's government. They're like these words. You would just say, hey,
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Speaker 3: it's cold out, not with them. It's code blue. And
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Speaker 3: we had a code blue here. What does that mean?
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Speaker 3: It means it's cold out. Now he's killed like seventeen
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Speaker 3: is it nineteen? Now? Homeless people because normally when it
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Speaker 3: gets dangerously cold, the city takes the homeless off the street,
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Speaker 3: whether they want to go or not. Even if they
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Speaker 3: won't go, they take them and put them in the
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Speaker 3: shelter because it's too dangerous. You could die outside. Mom.
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Speaker 3: Donnie made them stop doing that and leave them on
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Speaker 3: the street. And nineteen homeless are dead. It's hard. And
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Speaker 3: after the first ten were dead, you think he would
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Speaker 3: have changed the policy, but he didn't.
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Speaker 1: We are looking to make the outreach to each and
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Speaker 1: every person to let them know that there's a safe haven.
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Speaker 2: There's a shelter, there's.
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Speaker 1: A warming bus, there's a warming center at a hospital,
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Speaker 1: all of these different options. And if we deem them
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Speaker 1: to be a danger to themselves or to others, then
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Speaker 1: we do also bring them in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he hasn't been doing it, and he hasn't
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Speaker 3: forced them in, and he's killed a lot of homeless people.
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Speaker 3: But that's the way these left wing kooks work. That's
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Speaker 3: the way these socialists work. They tell you what the
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Speaker 3: goal is, they put in a policy that achieves the
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Speaker 3: exact opposite of the goal, and they never see it.
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Speaker 3: They never changed, they never blink. They don't know how
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Speaker 3: to bob and weave and change their policy. Like his
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Speaker 3: whole thing when he was running was concerned for the homeless.
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Speaker 3: He's now killed more homeless people than any other mayor
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Speaker 3: in the history of New York and he just keeps
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Speaker 3: going with the same stupid policy. Hey, if you love
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Speaker 3: Johnny Carson, don't go away. There's a new book out.
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Speaker 3: It's the best book ever on Johnny Carson. We'll talk
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Speaker 3: to the author a little later. Hey, we'll take some calls.
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Speaker 3: Next eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. Is
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Speaker 3: the number eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten.
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Speaker 2: To the Mark Simon show on WOR.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's take some calls. Oh, let's go to this.
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Speaker 3: Vincent from Brooklyn is calling. I heard he was mad
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Speaker 3: at me. Well, let's see Vincent from Brooklyn. How are
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Speaker 3: you doing?
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Speaker 5: I'm doing fine.
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Speaker 3: Were you mad at me? Did I do something wrong?
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Speaker 3: Did I say something wrong? No?
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Speaker 5: Maybe sometimes we disagree on minus things that would That's
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Speaker 5: about the extent of it.
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Speaker 3: But you're sure I didn't say anything to offend you.
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Speaker 5: No, I can't, no, No. What I would like to
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Speaker 5: talk about is apparently two illegals were working in a
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Speaker 5: Target store I believe it was in Minnesota or in
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Speaker 5: California and ice sweating there. They were illegally hired by
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Speaker 5: the Target corporation and icewating there and arrested these two individuals. Well,
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Speaker 5: lo and behold here in Brooklyn yesterday the stupid nose,
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Speaker 5: purple head, nose, ring fat women held a protest at
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Speaker 5: the Target store downtown Brooklyn, and they were sitting in
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Speaker 5: the aisles and they were just screaming crush eye sice
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Speaker 5: out of target, and this, that and the other. Well,
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Speaker 5: I hope Tom Holman comes to my neighborhood because, as
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Speaker 5: I told my girlfriend last night, I could easily get
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Speaker 5: him one hundred illegals a day because all of these
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Speaker 5: construction sites, the small ones, not the big ones where
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Speaker 5: their union where they pay workmen's cop or compensation. All
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Speaker 5: of these small ones, they're not paying these guys. They're
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Speaker 5: not paying workmen's compensation. They're paying these people under the table.
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Speaker 5: And I see them every day. Some of these I've
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Speaker 5: even seen women work these jobs where I don't know
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Speaker 5: why you would want to because talk about winning your skin,
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Speaker 5: ruining your hair, ruining your nails from the concrete and
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Speaker 5: everything else.
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Speaker 3: But that means that you would not date a woman
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Speaker 3: with a nose ring or purple hair.
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Speaker 5: No, No, absolutely, absolutely not. That's not my style. And
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Speaker 5: I agree with what Ann Calt said the other day
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Speaker 5: that most of these women in Minneapolis a little on
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Speaker 5: the rot on side, and they look like male professional
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Speaker 5: bowlers for the most part. At the top of the hour,
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Speaker 5: I heard that as I predicted last December when everybody
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Speaker 5: was saying, Oh, they're gonna go for the death penalty
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Speaker 5: for Luigia BENZIONI what did I say last year? I said,
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Speaker 5: he's not going to get the dead penalty. And these
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Speaker 5: two who these lawyers that he's using, they're absolutely phenomenal,
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Speaker 5: aren't they like a husband and wife team.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty good.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, they got that phone off the table in
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Speaker 5: New York. And now when it goes to the federal
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Speaker 5: case to get to get a trolled off, they can
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Speaker 5: get a troll out too, because they're gonna use this
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Speaker 5: to springboard into that. Now, somebody asked me the other day, Uh,
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Speaker 5: what would be a death penalty case? How would they
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Speaker 5: give this kid the death penalty? He'd have to be
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Speaker 5: a paid assassin or some sadistic killer, which years ago
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Speaker 5: I knew. Uh, I knew a guy who after he
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Speaker 5: robbed you, he just killed you for fun.
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Speaker 3: Well, Vincent, I'm glad you're back. Are you're sure you're
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Speaker 3: not mad? Nothing? No, no, I apologize whatever it might
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Speaker 3: have been.
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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that very much. And I'm not a
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Speaker 5: person for the most part, I'm not a person who
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Speaker 5: worlds grudges.
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Speaker 3: All right, well, Vincent, we're glad you're back. Thanks for calling.
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Speaker 3: Talk to you soon. Let's go to Gideon in Greenwich.
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Speaker 6: Gideon, how you doing, Hey, Mark, good and thanks to you.
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Speaker 6: I read Love Johnny Carson. What a great book for
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Speaker 6: gotten Sake.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best book there on Late Night on Johnny Carson.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk to the author.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you're quoted throughout it, of course. But my favorite quote,
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Speaker 6: simone quote in this book was you said, when you're
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Speaker 6: a kid, you're watching Johnny Carson, he taught you how
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Speaker 6: to conduct yourself, how to be an adult, how to
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Speaker 6: have a personality, how to relate to people. And it's true,
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Speaker 6: it was a little it was an instructional process for
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Speaker 6: all of us watching him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And what I was saying was, you know,
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Speaker 3: when you're a kid and you're watching Leave It to
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Speaker 3: Beaver and there's Ward Cleaver, you don't want to be
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Speaker 3: like that guy, who the hell wants to be him?
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Speaker 3: But then you see Johnny Carson, that's the kind of
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Speaker 3: adult I want to be. Yes, yes, all right, well,
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Speaker 3: thanks for calling. Uh, it's a great book. We'll talk
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Speaker 3: to the author next. Now. I was like the Johnny
19:56
Speaker 3: Carson expert of the World. I knew everything there is
19:58
Speaker 3: about Johnny Carson, but then I start listening to his
20:02
Speaker 3: podcasts Mark Malkoff and read the book. I learned fifty
20:06
Speaker 3: thousand things I never knew. This guy has uncovered everything
20:10
Speaker 3: about Johnny Carson. He does the Carson Podcast. There's six
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Speaker 3: hundred episodes with everybody that has ever involved with the
20:18
Speaker 3: Tonight Show. You guys should listen to that podcast, but
20:21
Speaker 3: also you should get the book. We'll talk to the
20:22
Speaker 3: author next. It's called Love Johnny Carson, the new book.
20:26
Speaker 3: We'll talk to the author next on seven to ten
20:29
Speaker 3: wor you're.
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Speaker 1: Listening to the Mark Simone Show on.
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Speaker 3: Well, Hey, there's a book you have to get. It's
20:40
Speaker 3: the definitive best book ever written about Johnny Carson. It's
20:45
Speaker 3: called Love Johnny Carson. Just get this book, trust me,
20:49
Speaker 3: you love it. The book's called Love Johnny Carson. It's
20:52
Speaker 3: by Mark Malcoff, who for the past few years has
20:56
Speaker 3: been doing the Carson Podcast, and he's had six hundred guests,
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Speaker 3: everybody that was ever on the Tonight Show, everybody that
21:02
Speaker 3: ever worked at the Tonight Show. It's rivening. I've listened
21:06
Speaker 3: to every episode each one two or three times. But
21:08
Speaker 3: get the new book called Love Johnny Carson. The author
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Speaker 3: is well us right now, Mark Malkoff, how you doing.
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Speaker 2: Mark, I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you, sir.
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Speaker 3: Hey. Now here's the problem. You have a lot of
21:22
Speaker 3: TV people today, talk show hosts, but they're just kind
21:24
Speaker 3: of there. You don't have giants anymore. Back then you
21:27
Speaker 3: had these giant, legendary TV figures. You will never see
21:31
Speaker 3: another Johnny Carson, will.
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Speaker 2: We I don't think so. I mean everyone in the
21:36
Speaker 2: nation at eleven thirty would tune in for his take
21:39
Speaker 2: on the day. I mean it's been said that you know,
21:43
Speaker 2: he really wasn't political because he didn't want to take
21:46
Speaker 2: size and alienate half his audience. He wanted to do
21:48
Speaker 2: an entertainment shown everybody passed through that show.
21:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's a good point. The reason you waited
21:55
Speaker 3: for that monologue. You wanted to get a funny take
21:57
Speaker 3: on the politicians, the president, whatever happened that day. But
22:02
Speaker 3: today's world, you hear forty seven talk radio shows and
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Speaker 3: twelve cable news shows, so you've by the time it's
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Speaker 3: eleven thirty, you've had eighty seven thousand takes on everything.
22:11
Speaker 3: What's the lates to do.
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Speaker 2: It's really different. He liked to not really take He
22:16
Speaker 2: didn't really want to take sides. But I will tell
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Speaker 2: you something. George W. Herbert Walker Bush when he was president.
22:22
Speaker 2: It was a secret. He was all set to go
22:24
Speaker 2: on the show in nineteen ninety two and announced that
22:27
Speaker 2: he was going to present the Presidential Medal of Freedom
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Speaker 2: to Carson, and Carson secretly told one of his writers
22:33
Speaker 2: that he was playing in and voting for Bush. But
22:35
Speaker 2: the Rodney king ryots happened, and President Bush Herbert Walker
22:39
Speaker 2: didn't think it was appropriate. But a few months later,
22:42
Speaker 2: after Johnny retired, he did go to the White House
22:44
Speaker 2: and slept over with Bush, and his son Corey actually
22:47
Speaker 2: played guitar in the Oval office for Bush.
22:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were a lot of presidents.
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Speaker 5: He was.
22:54
Speaker 3: He was part of the Reagan inauguration, wasn't he didn't
22:57
Speaker 3: he perform there for that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was actually produced by Frank Sinatra, and whatever
23:02
Speaker 2: Sinatra asked of Carson, Carson said yes. And Nancy Reagan.
23:07
Speaker 2: The Reagans loved Johnny. But Nancy Reagan did call up
23:10
Speaker 2: twice Johnny that she wasn't happy with some jokes. But
23:14
Speaker 2: overall they laughed.
23:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, But getting back to the point of bigness, the
23:18
Speaker 3: Tonight show was so big with Carson. You know, sometimes
23:21
Speaker 3: you're in a comedy club and they'll introduce the guy
23:22
Speaker 3: and they'll say, he's been on with Jimmy Fallon fourteen times,
23:25
Speaker 3: he's been on with Kimmel seventeen times, and you still
23:27
Speaker 3: never heard of this guy. But in the old days
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Speaker 3: of Carson, he could make a star overnight. It was
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Speaker 3: a majing.
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Speaker 5: It was true.
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Speaker 2: It was the dreams. I mean there was unknown Freddy
23:38
Speaker 2: Prince goes on the show, He's twenty years old. Within
23:41
Speaker 2: six months he has the number one to come in America.
23:44
Speaker 2: I talked to everybody from Drew Carrey to Louis Anderson,
23:48
Speaker 2: and this was their dream. I mean they had some
23:50
Speaker 2: of them had tears in their eyes telling me this
23:52
Speaker 2: story about what Johnny meant to them the country. Not
23:56
Speaker 2: only that, but the young comedians. In between commercials and
23:59
Speaker 2: after the show, Johnny sometimes would get them punch ups
24:02
Speaker 2: on their materials to improve their jokes into a young
24:05
Speaker 2: comic that is like Santa Claus. I mean that you
24:08
Speaker 2: can't ask for a gift better than that.
24:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big feature of the Tonight Show
24:12
Speaker 3: seeing the latest, newest best comics. Where did that stop?
24:16
Speaker 3: I guess it was Leno that stopped doing that on
24:18
Speaker 3: the Tonight Show.
24:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jays noticed that the ratings were going down when
24:22
Speaker 2: they had committe stand ups, so they really stopped doing it.
24:26
Speaker 2: It's I really feel like with David Letterman on CBS,
24:29
Speaker 2: the Great Romano was the big person that got famous
24:32
Speaker 2: through that. But yeah, it's a shame that nothing like
24:36
Speaker 2: that exists. I really do miss Johnny Carson being in
24:40
Speaker 2: New York doing the Tonight Show. I mean, he loved
24:43
Speaker 2: the city. He'd be in Grand Central Station playing tennis
24:46
Speaker 2: with Mayor Lindsay. He'd be in the Bronx having lunch
24:49
Speaker 2: with George C. Scott because they were friends and New
24:51
Speaker 2: York was dear to him. And I'm obsessed with finding
24:55
Speaker 2: footage because we both know most of it was erased
24:57
Speaker 2: and Carson was furious.
24:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, the New York the first ten years of the
25:01
Speaker 3: Tonight Show, I thought that was the best period because
25:03
Speaker 3: you're right. He was in Jilli's, he was in the
25:04
Speaker 3: Copa Cabana, he was all over New York. Once he
25:07
Speaker 3: got to California, he'd go home and that'd be it.
25:11
Speaker 3: He'd sit by his pool or play tennis. It wasn't
25:13
Speaker 3: the same car.
25:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, New York was just I mean he had this
25:17
Speaker 2: green Cadillac and he had a driver and on Sixth
25:20
Speaker 2: Avenue he'd be waiting after the show and around nine
25:23
Speaker 2: o'clock he'd come down and get into his cadillact and
25:25
Speaker 2: go back to the un Plaza, or go to Danny's
25:28
Speaker 2: hideaway or meet Sinatra, Buddy Rich. He had a really
25:32
Speaker 2: amazing Like one time, this green Cadillac as his driver
25:35
Speaker 2: had an umbrella because it was raining over his head.
25:38
Speaker 2: Carson watched his green Catalog be stolen by somebody and
25:42
Speaker 2: they're driving. The guy's driving on Sixth Avenue and Carson
25:45
Speaker 2: is in disbelief. This guy just stole his car. So yeah,
25:48
Speaker 2: that was a low point for Carson, but he loved
25:50
Speaker 2: the city. He actually when he moved to California, he
25:53
Speaker 2: bought an apartment at the in the Pierre Hotel.
25:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, people, man, I realized the nineteen late nineteen
25:58
Speaker 3: sixties New York well was a dangerous place, even the seventies,
26:01
Speaker 3: so it was worse than today. The movie Death Wish
26:05
Speaker 3: that was New York.
26:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough place. I mean, Johnny would
26:09
Speaker 2: have loved to have walked to work, but he definitely
26:11
Speaker 2: would be a target just being famous in money. So
26:15
Speaker 2: we both know Mark occasionally he would put on a
26:17
Speaker 2: disguise and walk around the city. He said he would
26:20
Speaker 2: feel ridiculous, but the costume people with NBC gave him
26:26
Speaker 2: this so he could go out with his sons.
26:28
Speaker 3: Wow, so we're talking of this before. When I was
26:33
Speaker 3: a kid, he w like, leave it to Beaver and
26:36
Speaker 3: there was the father ward Cleaver, and you didn't want
26:39
Speaker 3: to be anything like that guy. That's not what you
26:40
Speaker 3: wanted to be in life. But then you see as
26:42
Speaker 3: a little kid, you'd see Johnny Carson's that's the kind
26:45
Speaker 3: of adult I'd like to be that kind of personality.
26:47
Speaker 3: That So he probably inspired a lot of people, didn't he.
26:51
Speaker 2: I think he absolutely did. I mean, especially you know
26:55
Speaker 2: during the New York days. I mean he was pitching
26:57
Speaker 2: to Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris at Yankees Day. I mean,
27:00
Speaker 2: he was jumping out of an airplane, playing with the
27:03
Speaker 2: jets at the Polo grounds. I mean it was really fun.
27:06
Speaker 2: And then you know he was at Indianapolis Motor Speedway
27:09
Speaker 2: with Parnelli Jones going hundreds of miles an hour. But
27:13
Speaker 2: there was just something cool about him. I mean his dress.
27:16
Speaker 2: I mean he made so much money. People all across America,
27:19
Speaker 2: young men would save up their money to buy a
27:22
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson suit. He made fat the turtlenecks popular. They
27:26
Speaker 2: were selling out all over the place because of Carson.
27:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like James Bond would come in and
27:31
Speaker 3: he'd have one great line, a funny line, one line,
27:35
Speaker 3: but then you watch Carson. He could keep that up
27:37
Speaker 3: for an hour and a half. He'd interview a guest
27:39
Speaker 3: and have fifty funny lines.
27:40
Speaker 2: So he had this ability where his brain there was
27:45
Speaker 2: this joke file and he would admit that a lot
27:47
Speaker 2: of those ave lobes were things he had used in
27:49
Speaker 2: the past or had heard. But there was just nobody
27:53
Speaker 2: that was quicker than Johnny Carson. I mean the jack
27:57
Speaker 2: influence with the pauses when he would have animals on
27:59
Speaker 2: was something else. He was absolutely brilliant. You have the
28:02
Speaker 2: marsupial on his head relieving itself and Carsons look into
28:06
Speaker 2: the spider going up to his arm. I mean, the
28:08
Speaker 2: guy could do anything.
28:10
Speaker 3: So here's the big question. Now, the Tonight Show was enormous.
28:14
Speaker 3: You'd be a star overnight if you're in there. Letterman
28:16
Speaker 3: was really a big show, and the late night shows
28:19
Speaker 3: today are nothing like that. And you got to think
28:23
Speaker 3: at some point they're going to disappear because network audiences
28:26
Speaker 3: are getting smaller, budgets are getting smaller. Are we going
28:29
Speaker 3: to see the end of late night TV at some
28:31
Speaker 3: point in the next couple of years.
28:33
Speaker 2: It really looks that way unfortunately. I mean, they took
28:35
Speaker 2: away Seth Meyers, ban Cole Bear is going off in May.
28:41
Speaker 2: It's tough. Johnny had eight writers at the most, sometimes
28:44
Speaker 2: only four writers, and all these shows have you twenty
28:48
Speaker 2: plus writers that they have banned. So I think if
28:51
Speaker 2: the shows do continue, we'll come back. They're just going
28:53
Speaker 2: to be really scaled down. I don't think we're ever
28:56
Speaker 2: going to see an amazing doc Severance in twenty Piece
28:59
Speaker 2: or Because ever again, which is a shame.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and like I said, with talk radio, with
29:04
Speaker 3: cable news, by the time it's eleven thirty, you've probably
29:07
Speaker 3: seen fourteen talk shows already that day, so you really don't.
29:11
Speaker 2: It's really true. I mean, it's where we are, Yeah,
29:16
Speaker 2: it's it's something that I didn't foresee happening. But it's
29:19
Speaker 2: just network television.
29:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a while back when they took Jimmy Kimmel
29:23
Speaker 3: off here for about a week, and during that week
29:25
Speaker 3: they ran game show reruns and it got triple the ratings.
29:29
Speaker 3: And I'm sure it costs nothing to run the reruns.
29:31
Speaker 3: So when Colbert goes off, I would assume it's not
29:34
Speaker 3: going to be another late night show.
29:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to say. Byron Allen, the mogul, maybe
29:41
Speaker 2: a billionaire, has been buy an ad time to the
29:44
Speaker 2: twelve thirty slot and doing his own comedy show comics
29:48
Speaker 2: on leash. So I mean, I could see Byron Allen
29:52
Speaker 2: being he's such an amazing businessman taking that slot and
29:55
Speaker 2: just buying it from CBS. But we'll see what happens.
29:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, everybody get this book. It's the greatest book
30:01
Speaker 3: ever written on Late Night on Johnny Carson. It's called
30:04
Speaker 3: Love Johnny Carson. Just trust me, you'll thank me. Go
30:08
Speaker 3: order it right now, Love Johnny Carson. You can get
30:11
Speaker 3: it at Amazon. Mark Malkoff is the author, And you're
30:14
Speaker 3: doing a book tour right You're all over the country
30:16
Speaker 3: talking about it.
30:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to go to Johnny's hometown of Norfolk.
30:19
Speaker 2: I thought, ah, it's called nor Fork, nor Folk. They
30:23
Speaker 2: said it's north Fork. But I got to be and
30:25
Speaker 2: Johnny's boyhood home. They asked me to autograph the wall
30:29
Speaker 2: next to the mothers, brothers and Paul Riser and all
30:32
Speaker 2: these people like Dick have it. It was an honor
30:33
Speaker 2: to be there and talk to people and sign books.
30:35
Speaker 2: I did something in Chicago at the Broadcast Museum of Communications,
30:39
Speaker 2: and I'm going to be doing more events in New York,
30:42
Speaker 2: so stay tuned.
30:43
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let us know we'll promote him. So
30:45
Speaker 3: when you do all these events, all these audience, what
30:47
Speaker 3: do they ask you the most about Carson?
30:50
Speaker 2: Just people just ask me what he was like off camera,
30:53
Speaker 2: And the people that I talked to his best friends
30:56
Speaker 2: consistently would say he was almost the same Johnny on
30:58
Speaker 2: and off camera, which was shocking because the media would
31:01
Speaker 2: make him out to be cold in a loof, and
31:02
Speaker 2: his friends constantly would say he was not like he
31:05
Speaker 2: was very shy and reserved when people didn't know him.
31:07
Speaker 2: But if not, if he knew you, he was the
31:10
Speaker 2: same Johnny. And constantly, people when they come up to me,
31:14
Speaker 2: just tell me how much they missed the man.
31:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, now he was the same Johnny. But and he
31:18
Speaker 3: explained this once. When he goes to work, he would
31:20
Speaker 3: get kind of cold on the loof because you're there
31:22
Speaker 3: to work. It's not a party. You're not there to
31:24
Speaker 3: have fun on the air.
31:25
Speaker 2: You're right, he would. Yeah, he would save his energy.
31:28
Speaker 2: That was a big thing with him. He wouldn't get
31:29
Speaker 2: to the studio until he been working all day, but
31:32
Speaker 2: he would conserve his energy. So it might really look
31:35
Speaker 2: like it's tense, and I think he might have liked
31:37
Speaker 2: it a little bit tense everyone. He wanted everyone to
31:40
Speaker 2: be excellent and really be on notice and put everything
31:44
Speaker 2: into it.
31:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you'll love this book. Go order it right now.
31:47
Speaker 3: The book's called Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malcoff, and
31:51
Speaker 3: get it on Amazon. Love Johnny Carson. Get the book
31:54
Speaker 3: and start listening to the Carson Podcast. It's it's great, Hey,
31:58
Speaker 3: Mark Malkoff, thanks for being with us. We'll do it
32:00
Speaker 3: again soon.
32:01
Speaker 2: I'd love that Mark. It's still good in your voice,
32:04
Speaker 2: good talking you take.
32:04
Speaker 3: Care, take care yea. Thanks. You'll love this book and
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32:17
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32:24
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32:30
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32:36
Speaker 2: Hey, that's Mark simone seventen woar.
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