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I Could Not Believe My Eyes: Ten Astonishing Humanoid Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for joining me. I truly appreciate it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited about today's episode because I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about humanoids. As you know, I love covering humanoid cases,
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  Speaker 1: especially ones that people probably haven't heard before. I find
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  Speaker 1: these cases endlessly fascinating. There's so many of them. So
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  Speaker 1: many people report these. They're coming from all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: And every time I cover a new case, I learn
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  Speaker 1: something new. Now, I call this episode, I Could Not
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  Speaker 1: Believe My Eyes, 10 Astonishing Humanoid Encounters. And trust me,
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  Speaker 1: these ones are astonishing. Some really interesting and unique interactions
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  Speaker 1: in these cases, and all different types of humanoids. Greys,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but human-looking ETs, little... hairy dwarf-like beings, light beings,
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of reptilian as well. So quite a variety.
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  Speaker 1: I've got some historical cases, one reaching all the way
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  Speaker 1: back to 1946, and some more current modern-day cases as
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  Speaker 1: recent as 2011. These cases do, again, come from all
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  Speaker 1: over the world, including Canada, China, England, Saudi Arabia, Puerto Rico, California, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: and Virginia. So let's get to it. The first case
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  Speaker 1: I want to cover I call, It Gave Me a
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  Speaker 1: Rather Funny Feeling. This occurred in August of 1946 in
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. It is a single witness case, but
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  Speaker 1: this witness is of incredibly high credibility. a really remarkable
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  Speaker 1: accomplished witness. And it's also interesting because this is a
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  Speaker 1: very early case. So let's get to it. This case
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  Speaker 1: originally appeared in the July 1974 issue of Skylook in
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  Speaker 1: an article titled 1946 Sighting Described, 1946 Occupant Report by
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  Speaker 1: Ted Bletcher. The investigators include Lucius Farish and Mildred Higgins.
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  Speaker 1: This extraordinary case predates the modern age of ufology by
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  Speaker 1: one year and is a rare, very early humanoid report
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  Speaker 1: for that era. The witness is of unusually exceptional credibility.
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  Speaker 1: She was born in 1918. Her name is Margaret Louise Schoonover,
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  Speaker 1: her maiden name of Sprenkel. She would become an incredibly
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  Speaker 1: accomplished person. As a young one, she was a civilian
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  Speaker 1: employee engaged in classified work at Tinker Air Force Base,
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  Speaker 1: just southeast of Oklahoma City. Her duties gave her unrestricted
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  Speaker 1: access to the base. She graduated from the University of
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma with a degree in fine arts and was trained
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  Speaker 1: in drafting, special tool designing, electrical engineering, and earth science.
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  Speaker 1: She would later become a special deputy sheriff at the
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  Speaker 1: Maricopa County Sheriff's Sheriff's Office in Arizona, and the director
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  Speaker 1: and curator of Siloam Springs Museum. She worked as an artist,
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  Speaker 1: a teacher, was awarded the Anchorage, Alaska Teacher of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: She was an accomplished writer, archaeologist, gem and mineral collector,
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  Speaker 1: and a gem cutter. Her work in the military included
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  Speaker 1: plane spotting. She would be a recipient of the Award
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  Speaker 1: of Merit from the U.S. Air Force for her work
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  Speaker 1: in drafting plans for the White Alice Defense System in Alaska,
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  Speaker 1: where she served as head guard at the Port of Anchorage.
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  Speaker 1: She was an expert marksman, 1959 National Crossbow Champion, a
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  Speaker 1: CB radio operator, a volunteer social worker, a world traveler,
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  Speaker 1: and much more. So yeah, a really extraordinary witness. It
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  Speaker 1: was one early evening in late August 1946 that Margaret,
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  Speaker 1: then age 28 and unmarried, was returning from her job
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  Speaker 1: at Tinker Air Force Base. It was around 5.15 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: as she parked in her driveway, located at 2017 Northwest
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  Speaker 1: 22nd Street in Oklahoma City. And she was about to
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  Speaker 1: step into her house and was looking at an evergreen
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  Speaker 1: tree that needed trimming when something extraordinary caught her eye,
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  Speaker 1: a strange craft hovering at very low elevation and estimated
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  Speaker 1: 300 feet away. And I'll just quote Margaret directly. As
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  Speaker 1: she says, I looked up and just above in the sky,
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  Speaker 1: I saw what appeared to be a spaceship. It was
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  Speaker 1: saucer shaped and it was in an upright position. The
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  Speaker 1: broad side of it was facing me. I could see
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  Speaker 1: light coming through it. There were windows in it and
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  Speaker 1: there were heads silhouetted in the light. When looking at
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  Speaker 1: the object broadside, it apparently had windows as I could
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  Speaker 1: see light through it, silhouetting the occupants and showing enough
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  Speaker 1: light to see some partial details. I again saw from
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  Speaker 1: the back view that it did have windows on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: The windows took up one quarter of the lower part
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  Speaker 1: of the craft. There was a little bit of shine
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  Speaker 1: to the windows. As I look back, it reminded me
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  Speaker 1: something of our plastic windows on our aircraft of today.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't count the number of people, but I would
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  Speaker 1: judge that there were somewhere in the neighborhood of 12
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  Speaker 1: or 14. So this craft was close enough that Margaret
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  Speaker 1: could see it very clearly. As she says, was hovering
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  Speaker 1: in a very quiet position. There was neither odor nor sound.
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  Speaker 1: The thing was, well, it gave me a rather funny
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  Speaker 1: feeling to see such a thing, as I'd never heard
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  Speaker 1: tell of such before. It was metallic in color, about
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  Speaker 1: the color of aluminum. It was rather flat in shape,
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  Speaker 1: like two saucers put together. The windows were on both
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  Speaker 1: sides of the craft. When it left, it turned. and
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  Speaker 1: I got the view of the back of the craft
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit of the other side. That's how
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly the shape of it. It was thin,
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  Speaker 1: just like two saucers put together. It was entirely smooth
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  Speaker 1: on the outside. It was vertical at all times. I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at it face on when it was hovering,
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  Speaker 1: but then it turned at an angle, and it turned
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  Speaker 1: enough so that I was able to see the other side.
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  Speaker 1: So although Margaret was trained in aircraft recognition, She had
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  Speaker 1: never seen such a craft as this, and could only
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  Speaker 1: estimate its size, which she compared to the size of
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  Speaker 1: a B-17 bomber, or about 75 feet. And while the
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  Speaker 1: craft was strange enough, it was the figures visible in
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  Speaker 1: the portholes which really caught her attention. As she says,
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  Speaker 1: It appeared to me that the heads were rather bald,
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  Speaker 1: or else that they did have on helmets, and that
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  Speaker 1: they were quite round. They were about the size of
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  Speaker 1: an ordinary human being. They were of normal size. Their
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  Speaker 1: heads appeared to be bald or very light-colored, almost white,
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  Speaker 1: slightly more roundish in shape than a normal human head.
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  Speaker 1: There did appear to be slight movement. The occupants I saw,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, had rather large round heads, narrow shoulders,
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  Speaker 1: and were short of stature. They also appeared to be
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  Speaker 1: entirely bald-headed, and while details were hard to see, I
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  Speaker 1: somehow seemed to remember the eyes being rather dark, and
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  Speaker 1: somewhat close set. Now at the time Margaret lived with
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  Speaker 1: her mother who was at the door, so Margaret immediately
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  Speaker 1: shouted out to her mother, and as Margaret says, I
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  Speaker 1: called her and told her to come quick so she
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  Speaker 1: could see it, but just about that time this craft
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  Speaker 1: turned and sped off into the distance, and was just
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  Speaker 1: very fast, almost no time till it was completely gone.
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  Speaker 1: The object abruptly turned a short distance due north then
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  Speaker 1: directly in the direction of the northwest. The north position
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  Speaker 1: was more of a turning maneuver than traveling, somewhat like
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  Speaker 1: turning on a pivot. But then, as it left, I
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  Speaker 1: could just see the back of it, so I got
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  Speaker 1: a view of it at all angles, the edge and
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  Speaker 1: both sides. So this sighting was pretty quick, about one
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  Speaker 1: minute she estimates, and totally unexpected. So Margaret was left
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  Speaker 1: in somewhat a state of shock as she tried to
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  Speaker 1: process what she had just seen. As she says, It
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  Speaker 1: was just more or less a scary situation. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: imagine what it was or who it was. I felt
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  Speaker 1: that it must be someone from outer space. Now, she
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  Speaker 1: did not jump to this conclusion immediately, but only after
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  Speaker 1: reviewing this sighting and thinking about it for some time.
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  Speaker 1: She did think about reporting it, but she ultimately decided
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  Speaker 1: not to, at least not at first. As Margaret says,
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  Speaker 1: I did not report it at that time. The papers
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  Speaker 1: were ridiculing people who made sightings or said something about
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  Speaker 1: seeing an object at that time, and because of that
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  Speaker 1: I kept quiet about it. There were earlier reports in
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  Speaker 1: the papers then, only a few, and talk at the
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  Speaker 1: base was enough to make me not want to report
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  Speaker 1: it at that time. I know the sighting gave me
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  Speaker 1: a funny mixed feeling as to what it was. I
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  Speaker 1: was sure the U.S. had no craft of that type
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  Speaker 1: with its speed, hovering ability, and quietness. I could not
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  Speaker 1: understand why it hovered, and the occupants seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: looking at me. I thought about it for a long
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  Speaker 1: time and finally decided it just had to be from
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  Speaker 1: outer space. I was familiar with most of the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: restricted aircraft of that time that came to Tinker Base.
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  Speaker 1: Now this case would have gone completely unreported if not
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  Speaker 1: for the remarkable coincidence that Margaret met MUFON field investigator
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  Speaker 1: Mildred Higgins at a professional women's meeting in 1973, some
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  Speaker 1: 27 years after the actual encounter. Following this, Margaret Schoonover
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  Speaker 1: added one more thing to her long list of accomplishments.
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  Speaker 1: She became a field investigator for MUFON. How amazing is that? Astonishing, right?
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  Speaker 1: I am really impressed by this witness. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to have interviewed her because to me this is clearly
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  Speaker 1: a display. This UFO came very close to her. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it was showing itself off intentionally. And I
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  Speaker 1: bet if I interviewed her, she would have other encounters
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  Speaker 1: to share. But such a cool case. All right, now
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  Speaker 1: let's move to the next one, which I call Strange
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  Speaker 1: humanoid at Wilson Lake. This occurred in September 1956 at
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  Speaker 1: Wilson Lake, California. This case was investigated by an experienced researcher.
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  Speaker 1: It's technically a multiple witness case, though one witness got
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  Speaker 1: a much better view of the humanoid. But I found
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  Speaker 1: this one interesting because the humanoid is so unusual. This
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  Speaker 1: case was investigated by Paul C. Cerny, a field investigator
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  Speaker 1: and Western Regional Director for MUFON. and it first appeared
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  Speaker 1: in the March 1977 issue of the MUFON UFO Journal
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  Speaker 1: in an article called The Wilson Lake Humanoid. This case
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  Speaker 1: took place in the woods surrounding Wilson Lake. This is
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  Speaker 1: a 65 to 100 acre, 19 foot deep lake located
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  Speaker 1: in a wilderness area around 5,200 feet of elevation and
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  Speaker 1: 10 miles northwest of Chester, California. This is not far
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  Speaker 1: from the Lassen National Forest. This area is a popular
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  Speaker 1: location for fishing and hunting and is quite remote. With
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  Speaker 1: around 3 p.m. on a sunny afternoon in September 1956
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  Speaker 1: that four people were deer hunting in this area. Now
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  Speaker 1: regulations at that time forbade the use of firearms, so
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  Speaker 1: they were using bow and arrows. The four hunters split
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  Speaker 1: into two groups. One group included an off-duty deputy sheriff
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  Speaker 1: from Butte County and his sister. They have requested anonymity,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll call the primary witness Howard and his sister Louise.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, those are pseudonyms. So Howard and Louise became
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  Speaker 1: separated by about 350 feet. Howard was sitting down on
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  Speaker 1: a small log in a clearing, resting his bow on
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  Speaker 1: his lap. The area was very quiet, so he was
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  Speaker 1: surprised to suddenly hear the sound of rocks and gravel
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  Speaker 1: rolling behind him where there was a small hill sloping upwards.
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  Speaker 1: He turned around to see what was causing the noise
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  Speaker 1: and was amazed to see a little man about four
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  Speaker 1: feet tall standing approximately 70 feet away and directly facing him.
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  Speaker 1: Now this man looked human with fine facial features but
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  Speaker 1: it was his tiny size and even more so his
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  Speaker 1: unusual clothes that really caught Howard's attention because the little
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  Speaker 1: man wore tight-fitting green pants, low light brown boots, a
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  Speaker 1: long-sleeved golden shirt, which was opened at the chest, and
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  Speaker 1: a pullover tan undershirt. There were no visible buttons, zippers,
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  Speaker 1: or fasteners of any kind. This little man also wore
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  Speaker 1: a red and gold cap, which showed light brown hair
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  Speaker 1: protruding from underneath. And he was the size of a
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  Speaker 1: young boy, but his face showed that he was an adult.
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  Speaker 1: Howard estimated that his age was somewhere around 35 to
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  Speaker 1: 40 years old. This little man was carrying no objects
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  Speaker 1: or equipment of any kind. So naturally, Howard was surprised
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  Speaker 1: by this little man's appearance, and the little man himself
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be equally surprised as he quickly turned and
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  Speaker 1: fled the area. And here's where things got even weirder.
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  Speaker 1: This little man leapt up the loose gravel slope in
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  Speaker 1: huge 20-foot strides, quickly reaching the top of this hill
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  Speaker 1: and disappeared behind it. So astounded, Howard just went down
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  Speaker 1: to base camp, and as he says, I had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of shots of bourbon to steady my nerves, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't drink. So quickly sharing his encounter with his sister,
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  Speaker 1: she revealed that she had also seen this little man. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: her view was obscured by a clump of manzanita bushes
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  Speaker 1: and brush, and she assumed that the little man was
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  Speaker 1: just another hunter wearing a bright jacket. So now, gathering
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  Speaker 1: his wits about him, Howard returned to the site of
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  Speaker 1: the encounter and climbed up to the top of this
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  Speaker 1: hill where he had seen this little man disappear. But
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  Speaker 1: by then he was gone and there was no sign
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  Speaker 1: of him or anything else unusual. How about that? Very strange.
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  Speaker 1: I have questions about this humanoid because it really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fit what we see with a lot of extraterrestrial reports.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly it's an unusual humanoid, but I'm wondering if perhaps
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  Speaker 1: this was perhaps better categorized is a little person. By
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  Speaker 1: that I mean a dwarf or a gnome or something
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  Speaker 1: along those lines. Because the witness didn't really see a UFO,
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  Speaker 1: which perhaps is not hugely significant. But to me it's
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  Speaker 1: the way this humanoid was dressed that really raises questions.
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  Speaker 1: Because this golden shirt, the hat, the pants, really makes
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  Speaker 1: me wonder if this was not an ET as we
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  Speaker 1: would think of it, but more perhaps better defined as
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  Speaker 1: a crypto-terrestrial or a little person, because these little people
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  Speaker 1: do appear in cultures all over the world, and there's
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  Speaker 1: so many of them. I don't know. Definitely an interesting case.
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  Speaker 1: Now I want to move to the next one, which
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  Speaker 1: is a multiple witness case. Very interesting, because both witnesses
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  Speaker 1: did provide their testimony. I call this one, I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand why we were afraid. This occurred in June of
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  Speaker 1: 1963 in Lesterville, Missouri. And yeah, I think you'll find
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  Speaker 1: this one fascinating. This is a multiple witness case reported
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  Speaker 1: by two witnesses, cousins, both about 11 or 12 years
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  Speaker 1: old at the time of their encounter. They are anonymous,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll just call them Shelly and Brenda. The encounter
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  Speaker 1: occurred while driving along Highway 21. They were heading into Lesterville, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: a small town which at that time had only about
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  Speaker 1: 200 to 300 residents. This was where Shelly lived with
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  Speaker 1: her grandparents. Shelly and Brenda were in the backseat of
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  Speaker 1: the car while Brenda's mother and aunt were driving. It
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  Speaker 1: was a summer evening around 8 p.m., again June 1963,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll just let Brenda describe what happened. As Brenda says,
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  Speaker 1: We were the only car on the road that we
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  Speaker 1: could see, and there were no other lights until this
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  Speaker 1: bright light appeared behind us. We could see out the
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  Speaker 1: back of the car a bright, bright light coming toward us,
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  Speaker 1: and it just kept coming until we were engulfed in
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  Speaker 1: this bright light. We could not see any shape, only
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  Speaker 1: bright lights. Now Shelly also provides her testimony of the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the encounter, and as you'll see, it matches
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  Speaker 1: Brenda's perfectly. As Shelly says, There was no traffic out
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  Speaker 1: on the highway. It was dark in the car at
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  Speaker 1: the time. Then there came a bright light from behind
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  Speaker 1: our car. I'm sure we all thought it was another car.
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  Speaker 1: The light came up very fast from behind, and the
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  Speaker 1: inside of our car, it became bright with light. And
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  Speaker 1: the car we thought was coming up from behind us
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  Speaker 1: was next to us. I think it was on the
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  Speaker 1: passenger side. I didn't see that it was a car,
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  Speaker 1: but I saw that we were in a light. It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like we were both in a dome of light,
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  Speaker 1: and it seemed like we just floated a little with
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  Speaker 1: them above the road. I don't remember anyone talking or
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  Speaker 1: moving inside our car. was like we were in suspended
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  Speaker 1: time and in slow motion. So Brenda also reports this
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  Speaker 1: strange floating sensation. As Brenda says, everyone in the car
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  Speaker 1: was totally silent. It was like we were floating and
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  Speaker 1: in a trance of some sort. No one was talking
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  Speaker 1: or screaming, and no one was afraid. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: sense to me why we would not have been talking
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  Speaker 1: or afraid of something. Why was everybody just silent and
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  Speaker 1: in a trance-like state? was really strange. It was just
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  Speaker 1: like we felt numb or something. Now it was then
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  Speaker 1: that the gray extraterrestrials appeared. So Brenda continues with her explanation.
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  Speaker 1: As Brenda says, and then, right next to us, close
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  Speaker 1: enough that we felt like we could reach out and
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  Speaker 1: touch them, were two grays, which we could only see
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  Speaker 1: from their side view from the shoulder up. It was
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  Speaker 1: a whitish gray, smooth type of skin, with big slanted eyes,
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  Speaker 1: barely any nose, a very small mouth, and no ears.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember the expression on the grey's face ever changing. Then,
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  Speaker 1: they both turned and looked at us in unison. I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why we weren't afraid. Everything was totally silent.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how long we were looking at them,
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  Speaker 1: or they were looking at us, because we were in
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  Speaker 1: a limbo of sorts. Because we were not driving on
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  Speaker 1: this country road anymore. and because I didn't really feel
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  Speaker 1: the car moving. Nothing really makes sense. After the greys
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  Speaker 1: were done looking at us, they turned in unison back
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  Speaker 1: to the position they were in before they turned to
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  Speaker 1: look at us originally. It was almost like they were
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  Speaker 1: looking out the front of something. We had to be
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  Speaker 1: up in the air or something, because otherwise we couldn't
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  Speaker 1: have been at the same level as the greys were.
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  Speaker 1: Because we were in the car on the ground. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. So I'm assuming either the whole car
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  Speaker 1: was lifted up, or just we were. I just know
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  Speaker 1: we felt like we were floating. Now Shelly's testimony of
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  Speaker 1: course matches Brenda, and she was equally shocked to see
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  Speaker 1: the gray ETs next to the car. As Shelly says,
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  Speaker 1: When I did turn my head to look at the right,
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  Speaker 1: all I remember seeing is two shapes that looked like
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  Speaker 1: smooth heads with big oval eyes, neck and shoulders. Both
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  Speaker 1: turned simultaneously to look at us and just stared at us,
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  Speaker 1: as we in turn stared back at them. Not sure
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  Speaker 1: how much time had passed, They turned simultaneously to look away.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember moving at all. After that, we saw
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the light go in front of us and disappear. We
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: were silent all the way to the house. I don't
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: know what time we arrived at the house, and I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: don't remember driving the rest of the way to the house.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We were all in a trance-like state until we arrived
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: at our destination. When we got to our grandparents' house,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: no one there said anything. Now Brenda, of course, reports
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the same sudden end to their encounter. As Brenda says,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: At some point we were driving again. Still, no one
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was speaking about it. No one acted like anything had happened.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Then we saw the bright light go in front of us.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: This bright round light, which took off really fast, going
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: straight in front of us. It then shot up to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the side, then went at another angle, and then went
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: straight up and disappeared. I have no idea of the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: time lapse or how long anything happened. I don't really
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: know if we were in the same location after the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: incident happened or if we were closer to the house.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: But when we arrived at my grandmother's house, nobody talked
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: about it. Nobody mentioned it. No one acted afraid. It
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was like it really never happened. It was a day
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: or two afterwards that there was some conversation about this.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: In fact, the adults in the front seat mentioned seeing
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: these figures, and one of them even drew an image
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of what we now know to be greys, which really
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: impressed Brenda. As Brenda says, I had no idea what
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: an alien or a grey looked like at that time
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: in my life. I don't think aliens or UFOs had
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: ever been mentioned to me before this incident, but I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: know what I saw, and it looked exactly like what
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: greys are depicted to look like now. My family discussed
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it a little bit throughout the years. but I don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: really think that most of them believed us. So Brenda
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and Shelley together reported their experience to MUFON about 55
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: years after it occurred. It's always nice to receive a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: multiple witness case. I think that adds an extra level
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of credibility there. Looks to me like this was probably
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: more than just a sighting, given that they felt like
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: they were floating. These ETs came right up to their
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: car on a lonely remote road at night. These are
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the sort of things we see when someone is taken
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: on board. Of course, they can't say for sure that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: they had missing time, so who knows? But definitely, I think,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: an important addition to the catalog of humanoid encounters. Now
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: let's move to the next one, which I call the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Dark Glowing Man. This one occurred on July 29, 1974
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: in Lanzhou, This is in Gansu, China. I've covered a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: few cases from China recently, and here's another one. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think this is important because we really don't hear a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: whole lot about encounters in China, but given the size
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and population of this country, we know there must be
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of them. This case was published in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the Chinese magazine called Fidi Tensuo. In English, that translates
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to the Journal of UFO Research. This is a brief account,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: pretty sparse on details, It's still very interesting. The witness,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Ke Xingzi, was a student at the Workers' Polytechnic University
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: at Lanzhou in Gansu, China. It was around 9 p.m.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: on July 29, 1974 that Ke Xingzi was walking through
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: some vegetable gardens on the university grounds on his way
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to the workers' canteen for his evening meal. And this
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is when he saw something very strange. A tall, robust
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: man just under six feet tall, completely black, standing directly
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in front of him. Since it was pretty dark, the witness, Kay,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was unable to see any facial features. But this strange
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: figure was easily visible in the darkness because its entire
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: body was glowing with a faint white light. Now the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: witness's first thought was that it might be another peasant
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: coming to investigate the garden's irrigation system. So he shouted out,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: who's there? There was no answer. The entity remained perfectly
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: motionless and silent. So the student shouted out, come here
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: or I'll knock your block off. Now this did seem
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to cause a reaction, as immediately the figure began to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: glow much more brightly. And then it suddenly vanished into
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the nearby tall grass. The student quickly searched the area
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: for some time, but could not find this figure. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: starting to grow afraid, he fled the area. Now he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: was too afraid to tell anybody. as there was a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: lot of political unrest in the country at that time. However,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it was just two days later, and he learned that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: two of the leaders of his production company also reported
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: seeing a black glowing figure in, it turns out, the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: exact same spot he had seen the figure. Now this
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: second sighting caused a virtual panic among the local peasants
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: at the school, to the point that nobody would dare
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to go near the vegetable gardens, even in broad daylight.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't long after this that Ke Xingzi happened
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: to see a copy of the Chinese magazine, Journal of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: UFO Research, and reading about people who had seen, quote,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: men in black, he decided to submit his story to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the journal. I find that to be a very credible case,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: given that there were multiple witnesses. Also interesting to me
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is the description of this humanoid. Again, no UFO was seen,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: so I have to wonder how we would categorize this being,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: but it certainly doesn't sound like a spirit to me.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I think the most fascinating detail to me is how
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this figure suddenly became much brighter when confronted by the witness.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So yeah, an unusual encounter from China. Now let's move
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to the next case, which I call, I Could Not
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Believe My Eyes. This one occurred on September 4, 1977
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in Abra. This is a town, or a neighborhood rather,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in Corozal, Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a lot of encounters.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: This is a really interesting and very close-up encounter with
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a quite unusual humanoid. This very unusual humanoid encounter was
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: first published in the newspaper El Vocero de Puerto Rico
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and was then investigated by Puerto Rican researcher Sebastien Robilloux
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: La Marche, and was published in an article by Gordon
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Creighton in the volume 24, number 2, 1978 issue of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the Flying Saucer Review. Now, the witness also appeared on
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: local radio and TV stations to share his story. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the witness is a farmer by the name of Luis Sandoval,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: 74 years old. At the time of his encounter, he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lived with his wife and son in the rural area
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of Abra, This is a barrio just north of Corozal,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Luis reports that around 3.30 p.m. on the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: afternoon of September 4, 1977, he was relaxing in a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: hammock outside his home when he felt a strange impulse
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to get up and sit down, and almost immediately his
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: strange encounter began. As Luis says, I was sitting here
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: just enjoying the view and looking towards the north when
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I heard a noise to my right, and what I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: saw Well, I couldn't believe my eyes. It was like
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a flash of lightning, like a blue candle, long, like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a cigar. I was stupefied, and I could hear the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: noise of it growing louder and louder as it approached me.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: The sound was just like the sound of one of
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: those aeroplanes that we get passing overhead here, but far louder.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I just sat there pretty well without moving and watched
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: this thing coming down from the top of the mountain
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: until it passed me and then dropped down right beside me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I had no idea whether I was seeing right or not,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: but the flash had turned into a little dwarf man
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: about three feet high. I just sat there, hardly daring
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to blink an eyelid, and this little dwarf chap came
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and stopped in front of me. Now the appearance of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: this man was very strange to say the least. As
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Luis says, his ears were long and pointed, his face
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: was round and ugly, and his nose was not shaped
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: like ours. because the nostrils were big, like you see
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: on big apes. He had a sort of jacket and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a little tie. His face was sort of muddy-colored, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I had a good view of his hands. He had
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a little mouth, and his lips were much bigger than ours.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: The being then proceeded to speak in Spanish in a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: husky voice with a deliberate manner, and told Luis, have courage.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Luis said he felt no fear. The being then began
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to conduct what appears to be some sort of physical exam.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: As Luis says, I saw he had something hanging from
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: his neck, like the thing doctors use when they examine you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: He bent down and started to examine me. First my feet,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: then my knees, then my chest, back, ears, temples, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: my head. He opened my mouth and looked at me carefully.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: When he had finished, he told me that he was
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: an extraterrestrial, and then he stepped back about two feet
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: from me and started looking about him. And this went
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: on for about five minutes. At this point, the being
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: then spoke again and said, in Spanish, how nice Puerto
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Rico is. And just like that, the encounter came to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: an end. As Luis says, Now following this encounter, Luis
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: noticed that the avocado tree appeared to be partially burned,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: which was later verified by reporters who went to Luis's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: house to interview him. And in fact, they wrote, Now
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: this turned out to be one of several reports of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: dwarf-sized humanoids being seen in Puerto Rico in that area
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: at that time. That is such an unusual case, given
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the way this ET appeared. I don't think I've ever
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: heard anything quite like that, where an ET comes zooming
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: out of the sky in a ball of light and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: then stands right in front of the witness. Such an
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: unusual humanoid as well. Really interesting that the ET said,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: have courage. We often hear ETs say things like, don't
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: be afraid, have no fear. But this was a more
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: positive message of just have courage. but essentially the same message.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Super interesting how it gave a physical exam to this man.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And this is, of course, something we see quite a
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: lot with humanoid encounters, but more usually on board a UFO,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: rarely while a person's just standing outside their house. So
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. And yes, it is a single witness case,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: but it was pretty thoroughly investigated and in Giving it
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: additional credibility is the fact that there were apparent landing
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: traces in terms of the burned tree that were confirmed
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: by outside witnesses. So yeah, a good case. And now
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: let's move to the next one. Really astonishing because this
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: involves not one event, but actually a series of humanoid
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: encounters in one place over a very short period of time.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So I call this one, Why Don't You Come With Us?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: This occurred one evening in August 1979 at St. Clair
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Shores in Michigan. And wow, this case really gives you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a lot to think about. The reporting of this case
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: was facilitated by the witness's daughter, whose mother agreed to
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: come forward at her daughter's urging and report her case
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: to the Mutual UFO Network, MUFON, about her incredible encounter
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: with a landed UFO and occupants some 31 years after
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: it occurred. She reported it in August 2010 and says
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that she had actually completely forgotten about this encounter until
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: four or five months earlier. The witness is anonymous, so
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I'll just call her Barbara. She lived on Talbot Street
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in St. Clair Shores, Michigan. At the time of her encounter,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: she was 45 years old. It was one evening around 1979.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: This is approximate. She decided to take the family dog, Rocky,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for a walk. It was about 7 or 8 p.m.,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and she was walking the dog across the small park
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: located at the intersection of Talbot Street and New York Street.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: This is only a short distance from her home. As
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Barbara says in her own words, While I was walking
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Rocky across the park ball field, I noticed odd lights
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of all different colors flashing on the ground. I thought
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: it was strange that utility workers would be working at
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: this time in the late evening. Next, I saw several
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: figures who I thought were small children all around me.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But they didn't look like normal kids, though. And then
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: they began to talk to me, not through their mouths,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but through their minds. I heard them very clearly in
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: my mind. Now, she doesn't really describe what these little
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: figures looked like, But what followed next was a very
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: interesting and unusual conversation. One of these apparent ETs asked her,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Why don't you come with us? She replied, To where?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: One of them apparently gestured and said, To our craft
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: right over there. Her reply was, No, I'm busy. Why
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: should I go with you? The ET replied, Because we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: want to help you. Now at that point, another one
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: of the beings kind of butted in and asked, What
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: is that next to you? Referring to her dog, Rocky.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But before Barbara could answer, another ET replied, That's her pet.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: The first ET then said again, Come with us. We
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: want to help you. Barbara remained stubborn and told him,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: If you want to help me, you should go to Washington.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: The ET replied, What is Washington? Now at this point,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Barbara's memory of what happened next becomes hazy. She really
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember anything more than that However, her daughters, at
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that time age 16 and 10, do remember being alarmed
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: because their mother was gone far longer than the one
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: hour she normally took for a walk. So Barbara's experience
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: does end there, but there is more to this story,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: because as her younger daughter writes, A note to the reader.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I had an encounter when I was seven or eight
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: years old. A craft was hovering over our front yard,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and I saw three beings staring down upon me from
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: inside the craft, which was about 60 or 70 feet
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: above me. Also, my sister saw a UFO hovering near
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: her while she was on her bike. She was 10
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: or 11 at that time, and it occurred at Talbot
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Street and New York Street. That's the same location where
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: their mother had an encounter. And if that's not enough,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: their neighbors said that they saw strange blue orbs hovering
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: above their roof on more than one occasion during the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: late 1970s, when all of this was occurring. And in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: further and amazing confirmation, there was yet another report which
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: occurred 10 months earlier, on October 29, 1978, and only
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: three miles away from the above case. The witness says
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that she saw a bright white orb traveling east down
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Visna Street between Harper and Greater Mack Streets. As the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: witness says, I lost sight of the light. I was
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: not injured or hurt. I thought the light was God.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Now apparently there's quite a bit of humanoid activity occurring
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: in St. Clair Shores around that time, because here's another
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: dramatic humanoid case from this area. The witness describes herself as, quote,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: an academic, a professional person with advanced degrees. Her encounter
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: occurred around March of 1978. This is one year before
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the above case. And as the witness says in her
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: own words, traveling one evening with two small children in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the back seat, I noticed a streak of light in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the sky which was approaching very fast below the horizon line.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The intersection became very dark and the traffic and street
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: light went out. I pulled over into an empty parking
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: lot near a building, wondering what it was and to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: get a better look. A dome-shaped object came in at
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: impossible speeds. no sound at all, and hovered directly in
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: front of where I was and hovered motionless above the building.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: The center rotated and was lit from the inside. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: felt that I was being watched. To my surprise, there
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: were tall figures dressed in what appeared to be blue jumpsuits.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: All were very alike, with shoulder-length yellow hair. I could
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: see into the craft, and it appeared that they were
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: aware that I was there. They looked out of clear
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: windows that made up the middle portion of the craft,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: which rotated. The underside of the craft was lit with
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: bright white lights. Then it shot up at lightning speed,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: again without any sound, and streaked off as it accelerated
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: to nothing more than a pinpoint of light and disappeared.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I went down to the nearest street, but it had
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: vanished and was gone. I considered going to the police
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to report it, and actually started to do this, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: decided no one at all would believe me. This was
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a Friday. On the next Tuesday on the car radio,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: there was a news report that over northern Michigan, there
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: had been sightings of UFOs. and the description matched exactly
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: what I had seen just a few evenings before. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: have only talked about this with family. So, if four St.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Clair Shores humanoid sightings in the late 1970s isn't enough,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: here's one more. The witness was apparently a child, this
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: isn't perfectly clear, but the case occurred around 3 p.m.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: one afternoon in July of 1976 in St. Clair Shores,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and as the witness wrote to the National UFO Reporting Center,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: New Fork, and I quote, As I was walking across
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: my yard, I heard a deep, low humming sound, which
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: prompted me to scan the ground around the yard. I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: saw nothing until I decided to gaze upward. As I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: looked up, I saw a metallic disc-shaped craft hovering roughly
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: 90 feet up. The craft had two windows and an
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: oval-shaped structure on the bottom, which had an array of
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: light and which appeared to be rotating. Almost immediately, as
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I looked up at it, I saw two humanoid-like beings
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: staring downward at me. The beings had larger heads than humans.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: They wore robed clothing and were about 5 to 6
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: feet tall. The background or interior of the craft was
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: illuminated in a bright yellowish light. I'd estimate the craft
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: was about 35 to 40 feet in length and 15
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to 20 feet high. The object just hovered, emitting a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: deep hum-like sound. The exterior of the craft was metallic
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: in nature, having a dull luster, somewhat shiny though. About
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: 30 to 45 seconds into the sighting, a third being
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: appeared in front of the ship's window. Now there were
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: three beings glaring downward at me. Then about 10 seconds later,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: one being gave something small with its hand to the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: other one, and as I watched, All three aliens were
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: staring downward at me, which caused some concern. I was
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: thinking something bad was going to happen. My next move
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: was to quickly run into my house. I told my
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: mother about the sighting, which was to no avail. She
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: didn't believe me. That first case is amazing. It's very
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: cool that we know exactly where it happened. And given
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that not only the mother had direct contact, but both
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: her daughters... I think shows that this family has a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: lot going on and are probably contactees. But it's so
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: amazing that so many people were having encounters in that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: area at that time, including with humanoids. And apparently these
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: people did not know each other. So I'm guessing this
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: is just the tip of the iceberg and something was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: going on in that area at that time. Super fascinating.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: All right, now let's move to the next one, which
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I call a hairy humanoid. This one occurred on January 8,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: 1980 at Warwickshire, England. This witness was a young child
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: when he had his encounter, but I did have the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: wonderful opportunity to interview him directly. He's a very kind, sincere,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: very intelligent, and deeply spiritual man, partly, I think, because
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of his encounters, which again, I think you'll find this
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: one so unusual. This case comes from my book, Humanoids
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: in High Strangeness. The witness is a man by the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: name of Andy Daly. His encounter occurred when he was
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: exactly eight years old. It was January 8, 1980, Andy's birthday.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He spent most of the day playing with his favorite
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: birthday gift, a green cast iron toy tractor, which he
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: used to lift miniature logs, stacking and unstacking them over
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: and over. That evening at bedtime, he climbed upstairs and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: entered his bedroom. and he sneaked in a few last
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: minutes of playing with his tractor, and then went to sleep.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Now the next morning, he woke up around dusk. Feeling lonely,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: he crept from his room, turned on the light switch
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: at the top of the stairs, and sneaked into his
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: father's room. He left the doorway ajar about a half foot,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: just enough to provide a bright sphere of light, then
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: crawled into the bed next to his father. So as
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Andy lay there, he was wide awake, waiting for his
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: father to wake up, At the same time, he was
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: thinking about his toy tractor and deciding whether or not
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to return to his bedroom. It was then that he
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: noticed movement by the doorway. As Andy says, I noticed
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the handle to the bedroom door being pressed down, and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I couldn't understand why it was being pressed down as
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the door wasn't closed. So I became fixated on the handle.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Then the door was slowly pushed open, but it was
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: so slow and deliberate. It must have been a good
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: two feet before I started to see something very slowly
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: peering past the door. Now Andy stared in shock and
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: disbelief as an enormous head peeked out from behind the door.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: He says the head was probably twice the size of
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: a normal person's head. The skin looked leathery black, it
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: had black tightly knotted hair, and an open mouth filled
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: with sharp teeth. And as Andy says, it looked like
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a giant overgrown demonic ape Its mouth was spread wide,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: baring its teeth. It then proceeded to turn its head
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: in my direction, staring at me in bed. It did
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: not change its expression throughout the remainder it was present.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I remember everything. It was absolutely horrendous and extremely disturbing.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It must have been bent down crouching because the size
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: of its head was too large for the height at
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: which it was appearing. All I remember is that I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: was witnessing a real-life living thing, an entity of some sort.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So an icy terror swept through him, a real cold
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: dread that really left him paralyzed in fear. As Andy says,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Petrified doesn't describe it. It made me literally sick with fright,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: desperately not knowing what to do. I didn't want it
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: coming in. I just wanted it, whatever it was, to
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: just go, but it wouldn't leave. So he lay there
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: too afraid to move and cover himself, lest it should
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: draw the creature's attention. He was too scared to even
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: cry out and alert his father. He didn't want to
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: even breathe. But finally, summoning all his courage, he slowly
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: pulled the blanket up over his head and he then
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: slowly inched his hand over towards his dad, hoping to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: wake him up without causing any visible movement. But his
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: dad remained fast asleep. Hatred swept through Andy at this
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: point because why wasn't his dad waking up? Several seconds
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: ticked by, maybe minutes, still his dad slept. Finally, curiosity
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: overcame Andy's fear. He pulled the blanket off his head
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and looked towards the door, and his heart thumped at
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the sight. As Andy says, it was still there, staring
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: at me. I could even see the shadow of its
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: head on the wall. I was physically seeing this thing.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: So Andy's fear at this point was so strong, he
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: felt like he might die of fright. Then, with excruciating slowness,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: The creature turned its face away from Andy, stared straight ahead,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and moved its head back behind the door. Andy watched
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the door handle slowly go back up. The door was
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: pulled back until it was completely closed. Still afraid to move,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Andy lay there until his dad woke up. When he did,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: he told his father what happened, but his father dismissed
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: it as a dream. But Andy knows this was no
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: dream because he was fully awake before... during and after
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the incident. It was three years later, when Andy was
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: 11 years old, he found a box of his father's books,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: pulled one out, began looking through it, and was shocked
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to see a photograph or an image that looked almost
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: exactly what he had seen. It was a photo of
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: an alleged Bigfoot. It looked almost exactly like what he
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: had seen three years earlier. So that really puzzled him.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It didn't really make any sense to him, Was this
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot, a demonic spirit, an alien? He can only speculate,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but he does remember its dark staring eyes, its huge head,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: its sharp pointed teeth, and again he is sure this
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't a dream. As Andy says, I've gone through this
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: experience probably hundreds of times in my head over the years.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: The big questions without any doubt, even after all these years,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: have remained the same. What the hell did I witness?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Where did it come from? Was it a spiritual being
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: An unknown creature? Something possibly from elsewhere? And how? This
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: has also led me to have an open mind and
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: indeed critique and question my own theories. All it has
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: done is leave me with more frustration. It was this
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: experience that grew my fascination into cryptozoology, UFO phenomena, intelligent
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: life from elsewhere, the universe, spirituality, and indeed a higher
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: energy source and God. But I am still baffled. Such
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: a crazy case. I can't believe that it would be
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a baby Bigfoot inside this guy's house in England. I mean,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: that's just mind-boggling. He himself and myself are still really
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: wondering what type of humanoid he saw. so I don't
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: know ET a demonic creature something spiritual or something physical
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: really hard to say I mean it was physical because
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: it opened up the door but really an odd encounter
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: and so interesting that following this as an adult I
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: The witness had other amazing encounters, some ghostly encounters, what
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: he believes to be an angelic encounter. A super fascinating case. Again,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: you can hear all the details in my book, Humanoids
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and High Strangeness. Trust me, there's a lot more detail
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: to that case. All right, let's move to the next one.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I don't cover a whole lot of reptilian cases because
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: really there's not a whole lot out there. But I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: found this one so interesting. I call this one Desert
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Reptilian Humanoid. This occurred one evening in June 1991 in
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the northern borders province of Saudi Arabia. I don't know
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: that I've ever covered another Saudi Arabian case. I may have,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: but I can't think of one. And this one, I
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: really like this case because it is a multiple witness case.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Very credible witnesses. Some really unusual aspects to it. And again,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: it was thoroughly investigated by an experienced researcher. This case
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: was researched by James Clarkson, an investigator and board member
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: for the National UFO Reporting Center, New Fork. The witness
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: is an anonymous Army personnel working as a driver in
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: support for the 82nd Airborne Division. The encounter, he says,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: took place during Operation Desert Shield in the open desert
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: area of Fadat ibn Shaman, the northern borders province of
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. I'll call the witness David. That is a pseudonym.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: He was doing site reconnaissance for his platoon and driving
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: an M998 Humvee. Along with him was a lieutenant who
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: was the vehicle commander and two soldiers who sat in
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the back. It was around 8.15 p.m., again one evening
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: in June 1991, just getting dark, as they drove through
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: an open desert area near a salt marsh with desert reeds.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: In fact, the only sign of civilization was a small
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: town to the southwest. The distance they had to drive
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: was quite short, so it was anticipated to be a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: very brief drive. Of course, that did not turn out
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to be the case, when suddenly and without warning, a, quote,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: anomalous entity darted in front of the vehicle. And as
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the main witness David says, I executed immediate hard braking.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: The entity came to a complete stop within one foot
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: of the front brush guard, engaged in direct interaction, and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: then pivoted to the passenger side. The entity moved quickly,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: darted into the path, and came to an absolute dead stop.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: It deliberately turned its upper frame toward the windshield and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: locked eyes with mine. It then executed a human-like 180-degree
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: axis pivot on two legs and darted to the right.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: The lieutenant immediately egressed the vehicle to pursue the entity
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: on foot into the darkness. Now at this point, David
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: admits that his memory gets a little sketchy because they
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: were driving in blackout mode, meaning no forward-facing headlights. While
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he could see the strange humanoid, the lower half of
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: the being was illuminated against the sanded ground while the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: top half was harder for him to see. As David says,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the upper torso and head were seen as a stark, undetailed,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: dark silhouette against the ambient starlight. In other words, he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: had difficulty seeing the being's skin texture, its facial features,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: what color it was. But it was more than that.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: As he says, I experienced a cognitive block preventing detailed
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: visual recall of the entity's face and upper torso textures.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: When the entity spun and fled to the right, it
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: instantly cut behind the central radio communication stack mounted on
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the dashboard, completely obscuring it from my field of view. Now,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: as the investigator James Clarkson says, quote, The witness said
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: that he knows the creature was humanoid and walked upright,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and he knows that it looked right at him, but
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: he just can't recall more details about it. He said
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that he just can't remember the expression the being had.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: He knows that he looked right at it, and it
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: looked at him. He recalls that the being turned its
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: head and walked away to his right. I asked him
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: why he thought it wasn't human. The witness hesitated, and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: then he said it was humanoid because it moved like
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: we do, but the shape of the face was humanoid.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: He said it was tan-colored. It was a tall, upright
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: silhouette rising completely above the five-foot hood line, distinctly displaying
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a bipedal human-like upper frame including shoulders, neck, and a head.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: So the main witness, David, stayed in the car while
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the lieutenant commander grabbed a rifle and pursued the humanoid
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: into the reeds. Two soldiers followed immediately after him, quickly
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: encountering the lieutenant, now apparently returning. One of them asked,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: What's up, sir? The lieutenant replied, Nothing. Get back into
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the vehicle. Now this drive, again, which was supposed to
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: be very short, did not work out that way because
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: as David says, we arrived at our destination late in
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the early morning hours indicating a massive unexplained temporal gap
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: relative to the short geographic distance of the ridge. So
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: in other words, there were several hours of missing time
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: which could not be accounted for by any of the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: four men. The witness later went on tour in Kuwait
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and described his experience to a Kuwait native who told
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: him that what he saw was probably a djinn and
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: that it was really important not to interact with it.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: And that was where the experience rested. But still curious
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: 20 years later, David finally located the lieutenant who was
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: with him that night and had gone running after the
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: strange figure. He reached out to him and saying nothing else,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: asked him simply, do you remember what we saw in
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the desert that night? The lieutenant, without any prompting, immediately responded,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Do you mean that lizard man? So New Fork investigator
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: James Clarkson says that he verified David's resume and says
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that beyond his military experience, after 9-11, he worked on
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the victim recovery process at the Pentagon. He also located
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the lieutenant, but the lieutenant did not respond to his
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: requests for an interview. And as James Clarkson writes, the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: case does appear to be a detailed sighting of a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: reptilian humanoid by at least two credible witnesses. No further information. Clearly,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more going on with that case, given
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: that they had hours and hours of missing time. So
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: that would point to them having a much more extensive
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: encounter and probably being taken on board, even though they
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: don't recall seeing a UFO. But I have to wonder,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: it's a real shame the lieutenant didn't consent to be interviewed.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: that would have brought a whole new level of credibility
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: and I think a lot more information. What's super interesting
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: also about that case is that the witness talked about
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: it to other people in the area and was told
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that he probably encountered a djinn. This is a fairly
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: common explanation in the Middle East for encounters like these.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: It's certainly something I think we need to consider. And
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I have talked to other people who've had encounters who
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: do feel that perhaps that's what they encountered, not ETs,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: but this sort of trickster spirit. I don't know. I'm
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: just presenting these cases as factually and as objectively as
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I possibly can so you can all make up your
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: own minds about it. But that's an absolutely unusual and
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: fascinating case. All right, let's move on. This is another
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: reptilian encounter, which comes from researcher Artie Sixkiller-Clark. God bless her,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: such an amazing researcher. I call this one, They Looked
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Like Lizards. This one occurred in the late 1990s. She
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: does not give the exact date, so I'm estimating there.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: But it occurred in Flatwoods, West Virginia. Yes, the location
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: of the very famous Flatwoods incident in the 1950s. So
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: that alone makes this case interesting. But I think you'll
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: find this an absolutely unique, unusual encounter with a UFO
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and what appear to be reptilian extraterrestrials. This case comes
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: from Artie Sixkiller Clark and was published in her book,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: More Encounters with Star People. The witness, an old man
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: named Oscar Hill, apparently that is a pseudonym, lived in
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: a rural area outside of Flatwoods, West Virginia at the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: time of his encounter. Hardy had traveled there in the
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: hopes of talking to witnesses about the famous Flatwoods monster
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: case in 1952, and instead she found Oscar Hill, who
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: agreed to tell her his story. Per Oscar, it was
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: about 10.30 one night in the late 1990s, again date approximate.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Oscar had gone outside to visit the outhouse and then
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: go to bed, but on this particular night, bedtime would
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: have to wait, because as Oscar says, I was interested
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: inside the outhouse when I heard tree branches breaking and
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a huge gust of wind, like a tornado, which shook
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: the foundation of the building. It was a surprise. I
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: always watched the nightly news, and there were no reports
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of storms heading our way. I sat there until the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: sound settled down, It felt like several minutes, and just
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: as quickly as it started, it quit. So it was
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: now totally silent. Oscar crept out of the outhouse and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: was shocked to see a large cylindrical craft jutted up
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: against the hill behind his house, with half-broken trees all
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: around it. As Oscar says, It was a long, pencil-shaped craft,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: like a big propane tank, only bigger, maybe 40 feet
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: long and 20 feet around. Lights came out of the underside,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: white lights that faded from bright to dim. There was
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: a funny smell, like burning electric wires. Though immediately realizing
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: he was dealing with something truly strange, probably alien in origin,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Oscar rushed inside, grabbed his shotgun flashlight, and immediately came
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: back out and shouted out, This is my home. You
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: are trespassing. I'm going to count to three, and you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: don't show yourselves. I'm going to fire. So this thread
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: apparently worked because suddenly there were four strange humanoids which
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: appeared right in front of him. Oscar didn't see any
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: doors open. These humanoids were just suddenly there, appearing out
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: of thin air. As Oscar says, Don't ask me how
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: they did that. One minute there was no one there,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: and the next minute they were in front of me.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: They were more like big lizards than human. Their skin
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: was a scaly green-brown color. They stood about six feet tall.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: and smelled awful. They told me they meant no harm
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: and would leave soon. They were checking their craft for wear.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Now Oscar reports all this communication was entirely telepathic. As
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: he says, they talked inside my head. They told him
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that they were checking for erosion or corrosion on the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: materials on their craft. And when he asked them what
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: materials they were using, they told him, you wouldn't understand.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Oscar then shone his flashlight at them to get a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: better look, and apparently they didn't like it, because as
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Oscar says, when I shined it in their faces, they
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: made a funny sound like a shriek and covered their eyes,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: but not before I saw their eyes. They're some kind
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: of demons, I think. They had strange eyes. They were big,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: round eyes. They flashed from red to black, reminded me
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: of a cat. They looked like lizards. They had big heads,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and I think they had a tail. I'm almost positive
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: because they could swivel around from a standing position. Their
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: arms didn't hang down like human arms. They didn't have
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: the motion we have. It was dark. I couldn't make
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: out a lot of details. I wanted to shine my
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: flashlight again, but I was afraid I would upset them.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: They shrieked a deafening sound when I shined the flashlight
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: in their direction. It scared the devil out of me.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: So three of these reptilian humanoids appeared to be working
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: on the craft while one stood guard. Oscar kept his
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: rifle aimed at them and within moments they finished their
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: inspection and disappeared into their craft. As Oscar says, the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: craft moved upward and I watched it disappear from the sky.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Funny thing is, it looked like a slit in the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: sky opened up. They entered it and the sky closed
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  Speaker 1: around it. So there you go. What a crazy case.
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  Speaker 1: There's some really interesting aspects to that encounter. One being
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: its location. that it took place in Flatwoods, West Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: where there was that really incredible Flatwoods monster incident back
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  Speaker 1: in 1952, I believe it was. Huge wave of sightings
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  Speaker 1: in that area at that time. This clearly is not
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  Speaker 1: directly connected to that. But what an interesting encounter with
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: what appear to be reptilian humanoids. I have to give
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  Speaker 1: kudos to the witness for boldly and courageously confronting them
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  Speaker 1: and saying, what are you doing on my land? And
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: he had this really interesting, although brief, conversation with them, which,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw, was telepathic. That's almost always what happens
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  Speaker 1: when people encounter humanoids. There are certainly exceptions, but I
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  Speaker 1: always find that when people describe telepathy and use it
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  Speaker 1: in ways like, oh my gosh, they were talking in
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  Speaker 1: my head, that shows that they're not super familiar with
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  Speaker 1: the UFO subject, and I think adds another level of credibility.
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  Speaker 1: It's There's a number of details in this account that
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  Speaker 1: really jibe, I think, with so many other accounts. All right,
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  Speaker 1: now let's move to the last and final one in
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  Speaker 1: this compilation, which I call Unlike Anything I've Ever Seen Before.
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  Speaker 1: This occurred one evening in June 2011 in Keewatin, Ontario, Canada,
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  Speaker 1: to two sisters. And I have to say, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: case is unlike anything I've ever heard before. some really
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  Speaker 1: unusual details to it that I think you'll find particularly fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: This very unusual case was reported by the witness to
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  Speaker 1: the National UFO Reporting Center in 2025, 14 years after
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  Speaker 1: it happened. There are two witnesses, sisters, apparently teenagers, though
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  Speaker 1: this isn't clear. I'll call them Tracy and Tina. Again,
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  Speaker 1: these are pseudonyms. At the time of their encounter, They
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  Speaker 1: lived near Muriel Lake in Keewatin, Ontario, Canada. In that area,
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  Speaker 1: there were no streetlights, no close neighbors. It was a
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  Speaker 1: very remote area, and at that time, neither witness had
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of UFOs or aliens. It was one summer
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  Speaker 1: evening around June 2011. Tracy was sitting at the window
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  Speaker 1: of her second-story bedroom, which she shared with her sister Tina.
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  Speaker 1: It overlooked the back of the house over a large
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  Speaker 1: field and a dense, vast forest. Tina was asleep in bed,
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  Speaker 1: and as Tracy says, it must have been near 3 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: when suddenly it got very quiet. No more wind or
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  Speaker 1: the chirps of insects. Everything went dead silent. Very quickly,
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  Speaker 1: a bright light appeared from above and beamed directly into
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  Speaker 1: the second floor window, the brightest white light I'd ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: The whole world turned paper white. Stunned, I didn't do
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  Speaker 1: anything at all for probably a full two minutes before
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  Speaker 1: I decided to wake up my sister, who was sleeping
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  Speaker 1: behind me, to make sure I wasn't crazy. When she
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: got up, she saw it too, and was clearly much
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  Speaker 1: more shaken up than even I was. So now, shaken
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  Speaker 1: out of her reverie, Tracy decided to take action. As
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  Speaker 1: she says, filled with sudden adrenaline. I got up and
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  Speaker 1: rushed out of the room and downstairs to the sliding
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  Speaker 1: glass door to the outside that was directly under the
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  Speaker 1: bedroom window. I only looked back once before I went
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  Speaker 1: outside to see that my sister had followed me as
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  Speaker 1: far as the bottom of the stairs before stepping out
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  Speaker 1: onto the unfinished back deck. It was still so bright
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  Speaker 1: that I had to look down at the porch and
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  Speaker 1: my feet to even make it to the edge to
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  Speaker 1: step down and look around. But as I went to
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  Speaker 1: step down, I never touched the ground at all. Time
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  Speaker 1: lost all meaning then. My sister's last memory was me
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  Speaker 1: stepping out of the view of the sliding glass door.
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  Speaker 1: My last memory was never touching the ground. Neither of
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  Speaker 1: us remembered ever going to bed that night or even
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  Speaker 1: waking up the next morning. So although Tracy and Tina
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  Speaker 1: knew something unusual had happened, they did not talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: It was clear to them both that they had experienced
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  Speaker 1: missing time though neither knew what that meant or how
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  Speaker 1: to explain it. And as Tracy says, it felt horrible
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  Speaker 1: to even think about, wrong, like my mind was blocking
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  Speaker 1: out something to protect me. We didn't talk about it
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  Speaker 1: even to each other. So the encounter was over, if
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  Speaker 1: not forgotten, and it was not discussed, and the two
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  Speaker 1: sisters tried to move on with their lives. But as
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  Speaker 1: Tracy says, it didn't end there. That same week, we
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  Speaker 1: were walking our dog through the woods when I spotted
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  Speaker 1: something laid out on top of the leaves just to
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  Speaker 1: the side of our usual walking trail. It was a body,
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  Speaker 1: a creature, unlike anything I've ever seen before or since,
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  Speaker 1: not even in photos. It was a pale gray creature
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  Speaker 1: with enormous filmy eyes and needle-like teeth. It was a humanoid,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: but it had no visible ears, and it had slits
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: for nostrils. but no animal-like nose. Its fingers were long
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: with sharp nails, and through its skin you could see
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  Speaker 1: where the blood had pooled on its side that was
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  Speaker 1: laid against the ground. We stood there for so long,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I stared and stared until its image was burned into
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  Speaker 1: my mind. It was pristine, despite clearly having been there
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  Speaker 1: for a while. Nothing dead was ever untouched when so
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: much wildlife was so hungry out there. But whatever it was,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: nothing in the woods thought it would be good to eat,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: not even the birds or bugs. So Tracy and Tina,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: after examining the body, left it where it was. And
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: apparently they never returned to see what became of it.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: And not long after that, they ended up moving to
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  Speaker 1: the town of Kenora. And it was just over a
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  Speaker 1: year later when they finally mentioned the whole experience to
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  Speaker 1: each other. But even then, it was just a few words.
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  Speaker 1: As Tracy says, All we had to say was, That
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: was really weird. all about that apparently these sisters came
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: upon in a deceased gray alien of course this raises
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of questions it's really a shame they didn't
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  Speaker 1: take a photograph of it or get some sample of
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  Speaker 1: it is that body still there today all kinds of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: questions are raised from an encounter like this It's also
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: clear to me that these sisters were probably taken on board,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: given that they did have missing time, given that both
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: sisters can confirm that one of the sisters was essentially
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: floating off the deck. So that, to me, is a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: huge red flag. But certainly a really fascinating encounter. I'm
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: really happy the witness provided a drawing, because that really
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  Speaker 1: helps to visualize what exactly they saw. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: 10 unusual humanoid cases from all over the world. As
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I said, each case adds to our knowledge of what's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: going on here. It's amazing that there's always unique details
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: or little, I'd say rare or unusual details that help
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: us to understand what's going on here. And yeah, some
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: of these are purely anecdotal. Some do have some corroborating origins. witnesses,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: some circumstantial evidence, physical evidence really, but largely first-person testimony.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: But given that there are so many reports of this
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: from people all over the world, cases that have such
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: striking commonalities from people who don't know each other, I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: think this virtually removes any explanations whatsoever. of hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: mental illness, imagination, and all the other explanations that skeptics
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: like to put forth to explain all of this away.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly something really profound is going on. There is an
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: extraterrestrial presence on our planet, and I think, finally, this
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: is being accepted and is going mainstream, and I hope
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: that this provides enough encouragement and impetus for people to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: take these accounts more seriously, and really put some real time, effort,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and financing to investigate these more thoroughly. So that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. I truly appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep searching
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  Speaker 1: for the truth, most important of all, keep having fun,
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  Speaker 1: and I will see you next time. I am signing off.