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Elongated Skulls with Prometheus Lens Part 1 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a
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  Speaker 3: regud Julia from Cosmic Peach.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Julia?
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  Speaker 5: Yep, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: you for joining us, my man. And finally you already
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  Speaker 6: He's about to turn it up to about ninety three
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my name is Justin I got the nickname, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Doc Brown. I'm the host of the Prometheus Lians podcast
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  Speaker 2: Of course, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: And if people haven't heard her already, he's been on
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  Speaker 3: the show before in the past covering his book. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's been on plenty of other people shows as
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  Speaker 3: well covering that book. Check it out, check the book out,
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  Speaker 3: and uh yeah, thank you again, Doc. So Uh elongated skulls,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, I mean, I think we've all
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  Speaker 3: probably thought about those, looked into them and stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: what was it that brought you into, like really looking
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  Speaker 3: into that, if you don't mind me asking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, the my gateway drug into all the strangeness.
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  Speaker 1: What was giants?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Yeah, I grew up.
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  Speaker 1: In church and never heard about these these creatures. And
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  Speaker 1: then once I become an adult, I started finding people
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube and uh Apple podcasts and things like that
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  Speaker 1: talking about these guys, and then that kind of led
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  Speaker 1: me to Ala Marzouli, and then I started started seeing
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  Speaker 1: these elongated skulls and I was like, Man, what the
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  Speaker 1: hell are these things?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: That is wild? The giants was like, you get with
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  Speaker 2: That's that's interesting. Nice. Uh what was it like, is there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, uh, was there certain ones like like in
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  Speaker 3: the United States or were you like focusing on ones
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  Speaker 3: out of the country or both?
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  Speaker 2: Like what was it that you started looking at?
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  Speaker 3: I guess at first that was enough proof to you
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  Speaker 3: that you thought that these things were legit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my first encounter with them was actually through La Marzouli,
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  Speaker 1: and he actually got like basically the all star team
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  Speaker 1: of Christian fringe guys. We're talking about like doctor Aaron Judkins,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Judd Burton. I'm trying to think, there's just so
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  Speaker 1: many of them. He just had this mortgage board of
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  Speaker 1: the fringy fringe guys and they went down there to
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  Speaker 1: Peru and they met with Brian Forrester and they were
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  Speaker 1: down there for several months and they just recorded the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. And they were allowed to have access to
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  Speaker 1: the Parrakat skulls down there in Peru, so they actually
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  Speaker 1: got to hold these things, do castings of them. They
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  Speaker 1: brought doctors and optometrists, they took DNA samples, just all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. They actually just did a really thorough job
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  Speaker 1: of investigating these skulls. And I just read about it,
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  Speaker 1: watch some of the documentaries, and then that kind of
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  Speaker 1: just stemmed out. And the rocket skulls in Peru they
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  Speaker 1: get all the attention, But honestly, it wasn't until here
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  Speaker 1: recently that I actually started looking. Man, they're everywhere. There's
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  Speaker 1: not one country or continent that they have not found
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  Speaker 1: elongated skulls. Just a you know, a global phenomenon.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's really like that.
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  Speaker 1: Huh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll be totally honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you know, I'm roam all the
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  Speaker 3: time anyway, so I'm used to it.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't really up until.
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  Speaker 3: Proably about maybe six or eight months ago, that I
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  Speaker 3: even contemplate these things, Like I always thought it was bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: Be totally honest with you, And then I had actually
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  Speaker 3: a couple of people on that, like you know, like
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  Speaker 3: their their academic career probably you know, would have been effected.
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  Speaker 2: If to talk bullshit.
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  Speaker 3: So like I was just like, you know, I guess this,
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  Speaker 3: and then I had Heather on in somebody else. I
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  Speaker 3: think it might have been uh to Gregory Little that
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  Speaker 3: actually him, and between him and Heather, I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: I guess these things are fucking legit, Like and now
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  Speaker 3: you're saying like almost every country has them.
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  Speaker 2: I never knew that. Swear to god, that's fucking wild.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: Google started earlier and just kind of looked up some
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  Speaker 1: like for example, you know, like I said, Peru, they
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  Speaker 1: get all the attention, but there was a guy named
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  Speaker 1: Julio Tello in nineteen twenty eight. He found over three
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  Speaker 1: hundred just in that year alone, and so Peru was
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  Speaker 1: just littered with them. But they also found them in Bolivia, Chile, Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: the United States. The Kinokan and Choctaw Indians had elongated
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  Speaker 1: skulls the Caribbean, Russia, France, Germany, Central Asia, China, the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East, Africa, Egypt, Polynesia, Papua New Guinea, and there
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  Speaker 1: was one called the Natu and I may be pronouncing
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  Speaker 1: that wrong, but it's in the Oceania region. But it
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  Speaker 1: says that the head binding is still practiced today to
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  Speaker 1: resemble cultural deities.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's what most of them there that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: most of them from my research says that it was
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  Speaker 6: the guys that had like the elongeco and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: But the headbinding is uh completely like that, Like you
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  Speaker 4: can tell which skulls are authentic and which skulls have
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  Speaker 4: been manipulated with headbinding, because it's completely different. I know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like No, I was just going to say,
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  Speaker 4: like I think they were trying to emulate what they
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  Speaker 4: were seeing, and it's it's kind of obvious the ones
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  Speaker 4: that have been manipulated, But there are organic as Doc
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  Speaker 4: was saying, it's it's completely organic. Their skulls really were
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  Speaker 4: elongated and you can see it even in like Egyptian
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  Speaker 4: hieroglyphics that there were pharaohs who had these huge skulls.
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  Speaker 4: Said to Charnt and his sister's slash wife or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and their child had like these weird fucking prometheus fucking
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  Speaker 4: weird shaped skulls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, it's easy to tell which ones
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  Speaker 1: are from headbinding, because when you go to mainstream academia,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they try to do. They try to whitewash
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  Speaker 1: and just broad brush stroke these things and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just all from headbinding. And like you said, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's tailtale signs because they have like flat spots
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  Speaker 1: on their head where the boards were pressing against or
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  Speaker 1: if they used rope, they would have indentions where the
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  Speaker 1: ropes were. And all the ones that they find that
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  Speaker 1: are proven from headbinding. There's certain things that just don't change.
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  Speaker 1: And for instance is all these people that have these
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  Speaker 1: elongated skulls from headbinding, they all have their Sadritsutra line
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  Speaker 1: and they found some of these that they're absent. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I brought some items for show and tell for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I have a replica. I'm one of the prorockets that
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  Speaker 1: is real.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, this motherfucker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was like.
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  Speaker 1: And some of the things that La talked about was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I was saying, if you look at this,
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  Speaker 1: there is no sadre Sutra. And for those that's unfamiliar,
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  Speaker 1: this is basically like a peace sign on your head.
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  Speaker 1: You have this line that goes up the center and
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  Speaker 1: once it gets to the soft cap, it branches off
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  Speaker 1: into a y. And all the ones they find from
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  Speaker 1: headbinding still have this Sadre Sutra. But the ones that
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  Speaker 1: they find that are not from headbinding, they're like this one,
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  Speaker 1: the Sadre Sutra is missing. And like I said, all
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  Speaker 1: the ones they find from headbinding, this Sadres Sutra does
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  Speaker 1: not disappear. So that shows us that this this is genetic.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the same time, if you look here
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  Speaker 1: at the front angle the eye orbits, they actually lay
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  Speaker 1: brought optommetrists with him to study these things, and that's
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  Speaker 1: basically a fancy word for an eye doctor. And they
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  Speaker 1: measured these orbits and these are thirty percent larger than
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  Speaker 1: a normal human school and even the ones proven from headbinding.
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  Speaker 1: So he said, the optometry said, they're thirty percent larger.
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  Speaker 1: So therefore the pupils you would have been thirty percent larger.
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  Speaker 1: In the distance is even closer, he said. So they're
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  Speaker 1: built like an owl, he said, so, he said, it's
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. He said that these hybrid race creatures had
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  Speaker 1: night vision. And when you get into all the lore
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  Speaker 1: and legends of giants, they were cave dwellers and Another
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  Speaker 1: example was the ones from headbinding. The brain case volume
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  Speaker 1: doesn't change, but some of these the brain case volumes
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  Speaker 1: increased by like fifteen to twenty percent. And another thing
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  Speaker 1: that's really really fascinating was right here, this is an
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  Speaker 1: anchor point where the spine comes in. They call it
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  Speaker 1: the fray foremen mcmagnum or something like that. But see
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  Speaker 1: this is all the way at the back on a
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  Speaker 1: normal human skull. They're right here in the center. That
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  Speaker 1: way you can balance it better. And all the elongated
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  Speaker 1: skulls from headbitding that we found that anchor point does
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  Speaker 1: not change. They're all right there, so binding the head
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  Speaker 1: doesn't change.
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  Speaker 2: This.
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  Speaker 1: It's another genetic marker and it was designed specifically to
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  Speaker 1: counterbalance this huge head because if it wasn't anchored where
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  Speaker 1: it's at the way we just pulled down, they'd be
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  Speaker 1: looking at their feet all the time.
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  Speaker 4: That's incredible. I've heard that some of them the teeth
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  Speaker 4: are a giveaway to like some of them had double
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  Speaker 4: rows of teeth or like large larger than normal teeth,
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that. Have you seen any of those, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some of the double row teeth also, even
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  Speaker 1: just like the density of their bone. They said that
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  Speaker 1: some of these there's just a lot thicker than a
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  Speaker 1: normal person. And one thing that I really found cool
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  Speaker 1: when I'll show you this in this book. This is
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  Speaker 1: elongated skulls in the Paths of Vera Kocha from Brian Forrester.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things he talks about too, that
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  Speaker 1: was genetic with these guys. And I'll show you this picture.
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  Speaker 1: So you basically have a skull layout and it's got
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  Speaker 1: all these lines telling you, you know, what is what on
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  Speaker 1: the skull, And the things that I want to point
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  Speaker 1: out is there's holes on your cheek bones here here.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have two at the bottom next to your
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  Speaker 1: mandible down here at the lower part. And what it
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  Speaker 1: talks about is in here the ones that they studied
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  Speaker 1: that were different from the headbinding ones is that they
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  Speaker 1: had an extra set of holes. And forgive me on
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  Speaker 1: the pronunciations, because I'm a redneck and i can barely
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  Speaker 1: speak English. So you get these big fancy words, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to struggle. But it talks about it says the
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  Speaker 1: normal human skull has three pairs of small holes in
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  Speaker 1: the front, called the foreman and the zygo madico fasciale
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  Speaker 1: see I told you below and to the outside of
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  Speaker 1: the eye sockets and the supra orbital just below the
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  Speaker 1: eye sockets, and the mental foramen in the mandible lower jaw.
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  Speaker 1: Almost all, if not all, of the elongated skulls of
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  Speaker 1: Paracus area also have a fourth pair called the parential foreman,
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  Speaker 1: which is very uncommon in most humans. Goals and basically
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  Speaker 1: this was at the back of the head, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's an extra set of holes. And what they've said
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  Speaker 1: when they studied this, it says when this is present,
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  Speaker 1: it transmits. It transmits an emissary vein into the serial
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  Speaker 1: sagital sinus. The superior sitagetal sinus, is a large vein
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  Speaker 1: found in the human head. This vein travels over the
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  Speaker 1: top portion of the skull, beginning at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the skull and moving to the back part of the skull.
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  Speaker 1: So they believe that this perennial foreman is present in
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  Speaker 1: the elongated skulls to assist in the blood flow due
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  Speaker 1: to the norm or sorry, the non normal shape of
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  Speaker 1: the head, and would be an evolutionary development, So it's
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  Speaker 1: not just for these heads that is wid.
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  Speaker 4: So I worked for a surgeon and she did a
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  Speaker 4: lot of face stuff. And I would like sit and
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  Speaker 4: look at X rays all the time because X rays
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  Speaker 4: have come a long way. Those bitches are like three D.
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  Speaker 4: Now you can see everything. And I would ask her like,
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  Speaker 4: what are those holes that are in all the skulls?
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  Speaker 4: And she said nerves and veins. Every body has them.
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  Speaker 4: And so you're saying they have an extra pair on
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  Speaker 4: the back. That is absolutely proof to me that this
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  Speaker 4: is a biological not just like a freak of nature thing.
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  Speaker 1: All of them have that, all the ones that were
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  Speaker 1: not natural, or the ones that were natural.
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  Speaker 4: The ones that weren't manipulated.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so it approach its a genetic right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say, so that's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think? All right, here's the question of
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  Speaker 4: the hour? Then what do you think that they were?
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  Speaker 1: Well with me? You know when people point to the
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  Speaker 1: headbinding you know, as know, imitating their gods or a
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  Speaker 1: veneration type thing. You know, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people forget to ask the why questions, Well, why if
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  Speaker 1: they are just copying or mimicking something, you know, why
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  Speaker 1: would they do that? So it had to be something
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  Speaker 1: really important, because you think they start this. I think
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  Speaker 1: they said they can't do it till the kids are
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  Speaker 1: at least a year or two old. That way, that
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  Speaker 1: soft cap, you know, closes all the way. But so
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  Speaker 1: imagine you've got a two year old kid and you're
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  Speaker 1: strapping boards to their head and rope and tying as
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  Speaker 1: tigh as you can to force this skull to elongate
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  Speaker 1: and deform. This is extremely painful. You can imagine the
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  Speaker 1: headaches and the discomfort. I mean, this was not something
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  Speaker 1: that you just go get knocked out and wake up
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  Speaker 1: and you get plastic surgery it's fixed now. This is
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  Speaker 1: something you had to do for years. It was years
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  Speaker 1: of pain. So it had to be extremely important to them.
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  Speaker 1: So I tell people I use this modern you know example.
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  Speaker 1: You know probably what was it maybe ten years ago
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  Speaker 1: Morgan walland the big Country star broke out and what
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  Speaker 1: did he do. He cut his hair in the shape
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  Speaker 1: of the mullet. He brought the mullet back. Well, next thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, every kid, their brother and dad has a
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  Speaker 1: mullet now because they're venerating. They they're emulating this predominant figure.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's what's going on here. And when
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  Speaker 1: you go to like South America, Peru, where these parrocous
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  Speaker 1: skulls are found. They have all these legends about Quasi
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  Speaker 1: Kettle and Varicocha, and it says that they were pale skinned, bearded,
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  Speaker 1: red bearded, elongated skull people that just showed up on
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  Speaker 1: it said the boat of serpents without rafts or without rows.
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  Speaker 1: So these this god shows up, and it says that
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  Speaker 1: he basically gives them the seven Sacred sciences, and if
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  Speaker 1: you know, the equivalent to that is Genesis six. Spallen
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  Speaker 1: angels in the book Enoch says that they come down.
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  Speaker 1: The angels came down Brad with the dollars of men
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  Speaker 1: and gave them all this forbid knowledge. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: they'd done here with this Varicocha and Quasi Kettle. That
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  Speaker 1: they show up and the Vericocha and his lord legend
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  Speaker 1: he had as a group of followers, and they're called
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  Speaker 1: the Verkochon. And what do they do? They travel around.
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  Speaker 1: He civilizes the people of South America, teaches them how
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  Speaker 1: to do agriculture, make megalithics, architecture and structures and all
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  Speaker 1: these things. So it kind of mirrors to me that
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  Speaker 1: whole Genesis six narrative. And honestly, I'll show you in
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  Speaker 1: this book here too, because he talks about it. That
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  Speaker 1: Path of Avercocha. They have a list of all of
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  Speaker 1: the cities in the legend that Vericocha and his verako
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  Speaker 1: Chun went to and civilized and taught all these things,
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  Speaker 1: and all those cities are in a straight line path.
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  Speaker 1: Actually it's like a northwest path across the continent. And
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  Speaker 1: every single one of those cities that's listed, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they call the Path of Vericocua. But without fail, every
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  Speaker 1: single one of those cities has huge megalithic architecture structures
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  Speaker 1: and elongated schools out the wazoo. And when the South
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  Speaker 1: American or when the Spanish showed up, they documented in
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  Speaker 1: some of their journals that they noticed this fair skin,
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  Speaker 1: red haired, elongated skull people walking amongst them, and they
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  Speaker 1: were obviously different. You know, South American people are dark
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  Speaker 1: skinned and they can't hardly grow a beard. So the
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  Speaker 1: Spanish was like, who are these people? And all the
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  Speaker 1: locals said, these are descendants of the very coaching. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my opinion is you were legend these were
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  Speaker 1: falling angels.
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  Speaker 4: Well, so I believe that they actually were supernatural too.
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  Speaker 4: Not only did they have like a different bone structure
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  Speaker 4: and everything. But I do believe that they were mistaken
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  Speaker 4: to be gods because they had like a supernatural aspect
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  Speaker 4: to them. I don't know if you subscribe to that,
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  Speaker 4: but I believe they were able to do something that
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  Speaker 4: made these people think, oh my God, these people need
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: to be worshiped.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, one hundred percent, because I mean, when
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you read that narrative in Genesis six, in the Book
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of Enoch, they said they traded their first estate, so
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they come down and took fleshly form, and if you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: we take that at face value, they showed up and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they had divine knowledge. You know, they had a lot
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of scientific advancements and things. They were doing. All these
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: things to these primitive people and to them, you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, these were magical. These were just amazing things.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: So they worshiped them as gods. And that's why a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: lot of people talk about the Spanish when they come
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and invaded South America. They just took over so easily,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: because the legend of Arracocia and Quasi Kettle is that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: they left on the boats of serpents just like they came,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: but they said that they would return and when they did,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: they would return at a time that they needed them,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and they would do all these things. So when the
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Spanish showed up, they showed up on these large boats.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: They were pale skinned, bearded men, and they had on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: this silver armor that was just glistening in the sun.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They thought that this was the return of Aracocha and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: his vera coach un. So when they came, they worshiped them,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: brought them gold and silver and food and all this stuff.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So the Spanish just kind of went along with it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They's like, hell, we can take over this whole country
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and get all the riches without even having to fight them.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: We'll just go along with it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Real quick. Just you know, we stopped for a second.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Ten would you like to introduce you so far? I'm
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: so sorry about that too. I forgot to send out
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the link so you relate.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Well, that's okay.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Tim Constantine's sixth Century podcast had to jump on.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Talk to my boy Doc Brown here and I'll let
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: him continue.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Happy to be here, Yeah, I see if you come in.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we got another tenth boy, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: here a couple of rednecks.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Now talk.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: You're in Tennessee too, Yeah, yeah, shit.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: Where they were finding a lot of the stuff that
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: Doc's talking about. Hm, it's not in the history books.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: But how far away for you from Nashville? I'm in
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I know you are. How far away you talk?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm at the very far eastern tip. I'm almost but
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm butted up right against North Carolina, like an hour
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: from Ashville.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Dude, you're so close to me. What the fuck.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: We have to get together sometimes?
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: No, no, for really yeah yeah, even Tyrone is like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: right over here too. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm about like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: four hours away from Ashville. I think four and a
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: half hours away.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm about one hour.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I'm on the other side of the planet, so I
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: guess I can't come to the meet up. I didn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: know that they found elongated schools in Tennessee though. That's interesting.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I know there's like mounds and stuff and like a
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: lot of the son.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: I don't know about elongated skulls. I should have, you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: I should have said that a little bit better. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: was more talking about giants.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: No, just like full on skeletons. Yeah they have elongated
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: skulls or are they just big motherfuckers with like regular skulls?
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Well, you know. I mean, I don't know, doc like
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: I'm sure Fritz Zimmerman would have something to say about that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: But the Giant records that I've looked at, I don't
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: remember the skulls being mentioned, but the bones were big, right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: like seven foot seven footers. And you've got the Tennessee
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: little people too, So you've got like a whole Narnia
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: situation going on where they were finding like real small
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: and that's interesting too. It's like that's well documented too,
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: like White County, Tennessee, Sparta, Tennessee. These farmers were finding
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: all these little people, but you know, counter that you
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: also had giants too, So that's what I was more
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: talking about, all kinds of weird.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I mentioned before you came on, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: i'd found where was it he scroll up that the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Chinnokin and the chicktaw Indians that they had found elongated
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: skulls amongst those tribes of people. That was something I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: just recently found out. But I was gonna show you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: these two. Doctor Aaron Judkins, he was one of the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: guys I mentioned earlier that went down to Peru and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: actually held these skulls and investigated them and done castings
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of them and stuff. And I found in LA's book
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that he give Aaron a section to give his notes
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and thoughts on the skulls and what he thought about
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: them and all this kind of stuff. But in there
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he actually had hand drawn diagrams of these elongated skulls,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and he had calipers and all the measurement tools and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: measured everything to the eye orbits to the braincare volume,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. But he had hand drawn all those
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on some drafting paper and wrote down all the measurements.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm friends with Judgkins, so I emailed him and
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I seen your drawings of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the elongated goals in LA's book. Do you still happen
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to have those? And he was like, yeah, I still
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: got them. I was like, man, would you care to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like scan them for me and send them to me.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'd love to decorate them and photoshop them up and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. So he ended up sending them to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: me and I just kind of put them on some
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like a background like look like old scroll or something.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: But he sent me three different ones and it's got
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: all the measurements and stuff on that. They're pretty cool,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and uh, I'm going to Spiracycon. Uh it's the third
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: week in August. It's in Cave City, Kentucky. And uh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: doctor Anon Jenkins is actually going to that event too.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So I asked him, I said, would you mind, I said,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: if I printed these on card stock, you know, I said,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and sold them at Conspiracy Con. I said, if you'll
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: sign them for me, I said, we can split some
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of the sales on it. So he done that. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I'm actually bringing these to Spiracy Con for doctor An
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Jenkins to sign it to sell at the conference. So
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: if anybody is in the Cave City, Kentucky area, come
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: check out Spiracy Con. Man, it's gonna be a real
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: good time. But John Pounders from now you see TV's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: putting it on and he's just got an all star
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: lineup of people that's going to be there. Should be
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a real fun weekend.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: He's been in the g for a while too, right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: Pounder says, like he was talking about giants and watchers
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: and all that back before, a lot of people were Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I didn't know Kentucky was so hip. I thought it
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: was hey. And I'm not saying anything because I lived
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: in Kentucky for like fifteen years. My family's from Kentucky.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I wish I was closer because I would go,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: that sounds like a great time.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: What is that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It's the third weekend of this month. Oh damn in
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Cave City, Kentucky. I think it's like the twenty second
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I think. But another thing to us go to show you, guys,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: And I try to show references on all the stuff
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that I talk about, because I'm not some genius. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: just I read a lot, and I take people's puzzle
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: pieces and put them together.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: So I had some stuff from Brian Forster's book that
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I had mentioned, and this one is Ala Marzouli's book,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and I think he charges like sixty bucks for this book.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But this thing's almost as stick as a bible, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it's just jam packed full of information, full color photos
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: on all the pages, and he's basically compiled all of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: his years of work on the giants and elongated s
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: goals in this one book. So it's really fascinating. But
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: one of the ones that with these elongated skulls that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is probably the most fascinating enigma of all is this
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: skeleton that they deemed wiki. And I don't know if
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: any of you guys have heard of that name or
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: if you're familiar with that skeleton or not. But it
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: almost looks like a freaking alien. And they actually put
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a picture up of this thing beside of an alien
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like as a comparison, Jesus. So it's just got all
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the features of this other guy. It's got the large
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: orbits and everything else. But what's really crazy about it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: is this thing in total height. Now, this was a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: full skeleton, guys, This just wasn't the head, but its
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: total height was nineteen point six eight inches. And here's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the actual picture of this mummy. So if you notice
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the soft cap is still open, right, Oh, and it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know, nineteen and a half inches long. But look
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: at the teeth. It's got molars. And this was proven
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to be a small child because even the soft cap
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is open.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: So this is this is a baby along end.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, baby, Look the baby has molars, bro as freaking molars.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: That means that baby was snacking on some hot ass
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: at some point, like that dengated skull. Motherfucker's ate meat
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: from birth.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty crazy man. In one of the doctor's notes,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he said, he said it is a strange being of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: fifty centimeters tall, deformed head. The front and nail is
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: still open, however, has molars, the orbits of the eyes
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: are very large and have a lower jaw with two bumps,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and it says this is not a dwarf, that their
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: bones are at the end and small.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Can I just ask you something really quick? Why do
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: you think they're always finding the skulls and not the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: rest of the body.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Right, that is a good question, Like why is.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It a bunch of heads everywhere and no bodies to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: be found?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this and the wiki it's the full body.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: But it's just that's like a rare that's that's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: really rare find, you know what I mean, because most
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: of the time when they dig these bitches up, it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: just the skulls. And it makes you wonder like did
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: they all get decapitated in some type of like siege
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: on the giants or you know what I mean, Like
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: where's the body?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, see, a lot of them theorized that they
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that this was kind of like a skull cult top
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: veneration thing, that they would take these skulls of the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: dead ancestors and put them, you know, in temples around
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in these about rock faces and kind of venerate them.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was talking with Derek Olsen and he said down
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: there that he talked to some of the locals and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that they had legends and things that their kings and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: had these elongated skulls. They would take their skulls and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: place them ceremonial, ceremonially in some of these rock faces
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that are cut out in squares on certain dates and things.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And they said that when the moon on a certain
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: day shined on these skulls, they believed that they were
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: venerating and resurrecting the dead giant kings. And then also
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you have the Cicaras, yeah, and the Siicaras. I think
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that's what their names are. But it's basically that the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: grave robbers of South America. That's how ninety percent of
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: these skulls are found. The grave robbers go in and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: illegally dig out these graves and were South America is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: such a hot, dry climate climate, it actually preserves the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: bones really well, and so they take the is and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that the skulls is what everybody's fascinated with. So if
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they dig up this body, they just snap the head
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: off and take it to a black market to sell
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: because they know that's what everybody's interested in, is these
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: elongated skulls.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: Doc.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: You said something about them venerating their ancestors, and I
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: think that there's something to that because I've been looking
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: into some of the old Canaanite tribes and some of
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: the Canaanite temples and some of the things you find
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: over there in the Middle East to do with this.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: Essentially it's a cult, and this cult, say, seem to
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: be interested in just that venerating their ancestors to a
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: point where, I mean, it kind of reminded me of
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: Star Wars, where you have the Jedis that die and
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: they come back as like the spirits that help the
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: living Jedi. It seems like some of these Canaanites that
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: was part of their religion was literally talking to I
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: don't know if they really were or not, but they
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: seem to believe that they were talking to their asters,
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: who were like giants as well, giant priest kings.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And another one too is like go Beckley tape,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: doctor Aaron Judkins talking about him once again. He studied
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that place and wrote a book about it, and he
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: was even talking about that's not like in the mainstream news.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But if you search it up, you can find it
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that the people that built go Beckley Tape were into
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: skull cult veneration. That they at the site they had
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: dug up skull caps and they had drilled holes, fine
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: holes through them to like string them up and hang
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: them up inside of those stone circles and stuff. So
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it was another type of skull cult veneration.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: They all have structures honoring serious two So have you
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: did have? I mean, however you guys feel about him
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: as the Nassau not But Graham Hancock has talked a
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: lot of about these places. Go Beckley Tepe giants on Malta,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: like anywhere there's megalithic structures, there's temples, and the structures
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: aligned with serious legends about giants, legends about people coming
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: up out of nowhere teaching them animal husbandry, architecture, everything.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Some of them have elongated skulls, some of them are
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: just giants. But it's literally in every single ancient culture,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: serious giants, gods coming up from out of nowhere and
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: teaching them how to do shit. And it just is
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: interesting to me because until you find the skulls, they're
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: just stories. But then after you find the skulls and
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the skeletons. It's like, are they just stories though, because
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: now we got bones.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, as you've got stories then, Like I said,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I listed a bunch of those countries and continents, you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: find those elongated skulls everywhere. Every culture has stories of giants,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and no matter where you go, there's just too many
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: stories that rhyme Uh. I mentioned South America they talk
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: about Viracocha and quasi kettle. Uh. The North American tribes,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the Indians talk about the star people came down, stole
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the women and bred with the women. Uh, gave them
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: all this knowledge and technology. Then they also have stories
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of the red haired, six fingered giants that they battled
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: with and tried to push them out of their lands.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: You go across the ocean, you have the same thing,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the Genesis six narrative and the giants over there.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Like you mentioned earlier, Julia, all the depictions of Egyptian
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: kings and queens and princes with these elongated skulls. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: there's another similar story that a lot of people don't realize,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: but it's and Graham Hancock talked about it. I can't
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: remember the name of that temple now, but some temple
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: they found. And there was the story of the dow
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Watt and the first time, and there was a story
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in there about Osiris and that he basically got tired
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of the kingship, stepped down and loaded on a boat
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of his servants and went out to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: civilize the world, to teach them how to grow crops
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and do all these things. So there's another story, just
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: like the Vera Kochin and so many others, and even
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the same thing with the what is it the Samerian
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: King's list when you go through the king's list. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: can't remember the guy's name now, but he's like the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: third or fourth one. He was one of the god kings.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Same thing missed down, wouldn't Gilgamesh. It was somebody before him,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But he had stepped down from the king ship. He
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: didn't die. He stepped down and handed it over to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: his son because he was going to civilize the world.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Which one is that is it annual inky or in
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: them now?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't a god. He was just a king that
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: was on this Samerian King's list. I want to say
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it's h is Key and Gasher I think, and he
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: stepped down, and I think he handed it off to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: in mark R, And I think that is who a
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: lot of people align with nimrod Is in mark R
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: because in the legends in Marker was considered the great builder.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And it said that he built this tower. And there's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: actually letters that they found corresponding tablets between Uh in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: mark Or and Lord of Rata, and so it was
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: tying this Lord of Rata with the mountains of air Rat.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And in these letters, he's basically Uh writing on these
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: tablets as sending it all the way up there to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the Ararat mountains to this king, and he's asking for
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: his help and building this grand tower. And he says, basically,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I know you're this grand architect and you have all
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: these nice cedars up here. I'm trying to build this
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: magnificent tower to a Nanah and hopes that she will
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: embrace me there and asking for this Lord of Rata's help.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And this Lord of Rata sends a letter back. It
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, that's great, Well, what uses that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to me? So he's basically denying to help him, and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that they have this war and everything. So a lot
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of people theorize that this n marker was Nimrod, and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: the lord of Rata was either Noah or want of
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Noah's descendants because he still had the pre flood knowledge
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and was a great builder because he just they built
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the arc.
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: What do you think in Nana's role was there?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: It was just one of those She was the queen
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of Heaven and you have those stories she's tied in
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: so closely with with Gilgamesh and Inky do in those stories,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know, is what was it the Epica Gilgamesh. She
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: becomes so infatuated with Gilgamesh, she tries to take him
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: as a husband and he rejects her, and he kind
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of throws it in her face. He's like, every man
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you love winds up dead or you betray him. So
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: now I don't want no part of that or offended.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And that's when she goes and talks to her father
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: in Lyons, like, you know, he's just insulted me, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: now he's rejected me. I want you to send a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: bull of heaven and kill them all. And so him
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and Inky do tag team and kill this bull of Heaven.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And what's funny is if she was embarrassed before the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: way the story goes, she come out even worse because
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: inky Do takes the bloody thigh the bull and smacks
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: her in the face with it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: Text you know, it's so funny, and I'll be like
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: even like the docks, like Doc's on point with this
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: whole annt of thing, and like she even wanted to him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: One of the texts I read talked about how an
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: honor Ishtar wanted Gilgamesh to go up and through the
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: sky with her, and he was like he declined because
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: he's like the men who go up and this guy
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: with you never return. And I just think that that's
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: so interesting when you see these kings like having some
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: sort of veneration or relationship with this entity. And Nonna
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: ishtar Aphrodity, whatever name she goes by, she goes by
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: different names, you know, And like, I don't want to
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: rehash something that I just talked about on a podcast elsewhere,
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: but I did just cover a story where there's some
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: of nebue Kenezra's old writings where he's talking about his
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: love for Ishtar and how his istar would come to
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: his wife in a dream and give them messages like
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: messages for the kingdom, and beyond that, even like he
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: was trying to work with her in a way to
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: where he would get uh, he would be he would
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: deify like he wouldn't. He didn't want to die like
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: a mortal. He wanted to deify. And Nimrod comes to
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: mind there, right, is that the right one? Doc the
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: u became a gilberin.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the Book of Genesis says that Nimrod
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: becomes a gibble Reem and with gilgameshion that's the whole thing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Is like when Annana was so impressed they just killed Humbaba,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that this monster of the forests of what was it
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: next to Mount Hermon? And they called it that mountain
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: was the home of the Annaki. And according to the Bible,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: you know where uh, the angels, the fallen angels came
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: down was on Mount Hermon, and that and that Gilgamesh
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: story they named that is the dwelling place of the Anonaki.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And then that's when she becomes so infatuated with him
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: because they're they're these great heroes and she wanted this
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: manly man to be hers. And after he reject her,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that's when they take off on that other adventure. And
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: like you had mentioned, he feared his mortality. He didn't
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: want to die, so uh. During that battle, she like
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: curses Inky Do, his best friend for slapping her in
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the face with that bullsty and he ends up dying.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: But he comes back and he tells Gilgamesh, you know
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: this place that I'm going to. You don't want to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: be here, brother, do everything you can to not be here.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So then he takes off on this other adventure to
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: try to find it's basically Noah, but I can't remember
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: their version what they called him now, But he goes
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: on this journey and goes into.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Something like that starts with yeah, yeah, I can never.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: See you're right and Ultra hasis it's another one. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: they go find him and he's like, I'm seeking eternal life.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I want to be like you, and basically he just
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: tells him, you've come all this way for nothing. You
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: can't have eternal life, and he forces to go to sleep,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and then basically Noah's wife pleads with him. It's like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: he come all this way, You're just going to send
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: him away without helping him, and kind of guilt trips him.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So once Gilgamesh wakes up, he tells him there is
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: one way. There's this certain flower that grows under the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: sea at this certain place, and if you can find
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: this flower and ingest it, you will have not eternal life,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: but long life, or really really long life. So he
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: ties this boulder to his leg and throws himself into
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: this sea and goes searching for this mystical flower, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: he finds it, but then he comes back to the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: surface and before he can even eat it, this great
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: serpent sneaks up and eats the flower and steals it
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: from him. And so then he's all in dismay that
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: he lost his shot at long life. But you have
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that serpent imagery again, you know, coming in the sneaky
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: serpent stealing eternal life life from Gilgamesh.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Do you think this these are like bedtime stories or
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: you think this ship's real?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's all rooted in some truth. There's some
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: kind of esoteric truth that that's being passed through these entertaining,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: unforgettable stories.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, yeah, I think it right, that esoteric stories. Yeah,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: something in it, and there's some truth, yeah, if you
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: can figure it out for sure, I.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Think yeah, I agree. And and that's another thing too,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: is like when you go to like the Bible and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about, you know, all these Sumerian
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: stories and Babylonian stories that they predate the Bible, so
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: therefore they sound so similar because they just you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: basically stole their story, you know, and rewrote it in
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: their own version. And I'm guilty. Everybody has their you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: preconceived notions and and faith based, you know, where I'm
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a Christian. I just tell people, you know, nothing of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the first is the best. If that's the case, we'd
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: all be driving around in four model ts. So just
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: because it's the first, don't make it the best. And
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: as far as the biblical narratives, Ford found on Road Dead.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: But so I tell people, like, if you go with
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the biblical narrative, what does it say? It says that
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the angels left their first estate and traded their first
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: estate and came down to earth and was kicked out
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: of heaven. So according to the biblical narrative, the fallen
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: angels was here first. So is it out of the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: question that you would get their version their story first.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: And of course it's going to be distorted if it's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: coming from them, But that's just my standpoint on it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Though, Well, I mean, I agree with you, obviously, you
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: know how I feel about that kind of stuff. But
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: just when you hear these stories that are repeated throughout
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: all these different cultures, you start to wondering, like, what
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: part of this actually happened? What part of this is
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: like a bedtime story, a cautionary tale or something like that,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: And how do you interweave like physical evidence with the
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: mythology of a place, you know what I mean? Because
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: it's like, if you look at the hieroglyphics and the
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: stories sept come out of Egypt, it's dog headed beings
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: and bird headed beings and stuff like that. I tend
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: to kind of think that shit was legit and like
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: they did have some fucked up beings walking around, But
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: it's like what part of it was dramatized and like
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: what part of it was part of the mystery schools
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that, What part of it is real?
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: Man armies got the dog man armies like.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: From The Mummy part two, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Nubis, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: What was that guy's name? Beannie? You know a lot
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: of people, Beanie, they have the hundred necklaces of every
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: single god and religion and every single one of them.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, I love that movie so much.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: I actually have been fascinated with this kind of stuff
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: since I was a kid, and I would watch The
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Mummy on repeat and be like, I feel like this
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: is the real shit, Like there's actual curses and like
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: stuff from in Egypt that's you know, they talk about
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: it like, oh, it's it's like a story. It's supposed
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: to symbolize this, and it's like, no, I think they
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: had stargates. I think they had advanced technology. I think
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: that they had electricity in some form. So right, well,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I mean it makes you wonder what part of like
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: the Atlantis lore fits into all of this and Israel,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: that these were just saddle cities with giant centelonggated skull
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: beings that were breakoffs from one civilization like the mothership,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: like was it Atlantean and then they all just kind
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: of like did their own ship and then there was
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: like a catastrophe that wiped it out.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always thought that Atlantis was like an allegory
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: for basically the Great Reset the flood story, and that's
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: one of those universal things, you know, you go to India,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it says that was his name Kushna I think there,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: or maybe I can't remember. It's the blue skin god.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: But he shows up as a fish and this it
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: might be. But he shows up as this you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: fish to this righteous man, and he caused his name Minu,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: which you know stands for or means man, first man,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and warns him of this great catastrophe and the world's
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: going to be destroyed with the flood. To build this boat.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And they build this boat and they basically he ties
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a lasso around the fish and he drags him to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: safety and places him on top of a mountain. And
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you have the same story with Noah. You have the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: same story like we just talked about with the Babylonian
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and Samaran the ultra hass. You go to the Native
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Americans in North America, they talk about a great flood
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: coming and the gods preserving a remnant. Go to South America.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: It says Varrakoca in his first creation that he created giants,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and that the giants devoured the land and the inhabitants
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: of the land that they were wicked. So what does
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: he do. He brings a flood to destroy the earth
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and the first thing, the remnant that survived. The giants
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: worked with the people and they build this great tower
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: in the air to evade a future potential flooding, so
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I mean the Tower of Bible. So you just have
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: all these stories, and like you had mentioned, Julie, I'm
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the type of person. I'm not a coincidence theorist. I
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: love comparative mythology. I like to look at all these
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: stories and if we have all these same stories around
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the world, there has to be something to it. And
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: so I just try to look for the common themes.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And a lot of times we see caveats added or
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: names change. Those are just you know, you can add
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that to their cultural spin. But the common themes where
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: they're all the same, I think those are rooted and truth.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: And lucky for us, there's physical evidence of a lot
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: of this, physical evidence water erosion on the Sphinx in Egypt,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: physical evidence that the Grand Canyon was hollowed out by water,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: and that the Native Americans hid in the caves and
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: the age there were people that right, So this is
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, you can't say they're all bedtime
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: stories because there's an aspect that that can be spiritual,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: but there's an aspect that has to be literal because
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: there is physical evidence. And then you start mixing the
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: skeletons and giant skeletons and elongated schools and stuff with
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: the water erosion on the Sphinx and with the Grand
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Canyon and the seashells on Mount Everest, and then you're like,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: all right, what part of these stories is literal?
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: We have shells in the East Tennessee too, just to
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: sprinkle in the Tennessee Mountains, they're finding old, ancient seashells
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: and just sea stuff in general. Yeah, there was an
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: ocean here at one point. And I'm kind of leaning
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: with Doc on this one. It's like, you get one
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: or two flood myths. My personal opinion is like, maybe
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: that's a coincidence. But once you get forty flood myths,
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: I'm starting to think that there was a day loge
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: of some sort, some sort of a catastrophe with lots
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: of water.
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: That's interesting because I actually talk about that a lot
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: when I explained it like this. The reason why we
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: have so many flood stories is because every civilization started
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: by a body of water, and eventually during that timeframe,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: whether it's our lifetime, our children's lifetime, our grandkids lifetime,
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: there's going to be a major flood that pushes somebody
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: away from that land and then they have to redo
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: everything from the beginning. So I feel like most of
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: these flood stories, yeah, they're very similar because in most cases,
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: you know, the ancient people they have boats like we
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: have cars today. Their transportation from one place to another
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: or getting food in a mass production way was by
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: using boats. So I look at it as you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: since every civilization started by a body of water, and
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: we need body of water to survive, there's always going
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: to be some type of flood story. And now that
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: because we're mostly certain religions like Christianity, Muslims and so
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: on and so forth, those big Abrahamic face, they're all
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: combining that one flush story. Like he was talking about
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: the Sumerians, you know, the Samarians have their flood story,
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: the Akkadians have their flood story, the Syrians, Hittites and
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: so on and so forth. Then you even have the
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: Meso Americans.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Now that's one of those things. It's like a lot
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of people want to talk about isolationism. You know, all
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: these ancient people, they all just stayed in their little
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: square piece of pasture and didn't trade or communicate with
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: all these other countries. I think we have so much
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: evidence that the ancients were diffusionists. They were sailing the seas.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: They were going to North America, mining this copper, coming
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: back and bringing it back to the other parts of
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the world. I think the Venetians were basically fueling the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Bronze Age. And if you go to Michigan up there,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I can't remember that name, but that it's right there
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: on the border of Michigan and Canada. But they find
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: these huge copper minds, and they've estimated it's like hundreds
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: of thousands of pounds of copper that is missing. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: that Michigan copper is the purest copper in the world.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It tests it like ninety eight point eight percent purity.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: So when they find copper that tests that high, they
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: know it come from that Lake Michigan area because it's
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the purest in the world. It's the only one that
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: tests that high. But they're finding copper that tests that
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: pure in Europe, in South Asia and Africa, the Middle East, Peru,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: they're finding it everywhere. And I believe it's because these
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: ancient Phoenicians, these giants, when the waterways were higher, they
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: could sell straight across because if you follow the currents
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and the tides, you can take a boat with no sails,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: no paddles, and just drift. And there's a what's his name,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a Scandinavian doctor. I can't remember his name now, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: think it's Thore or something, but he actually tested this.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: He got on a raft and the currents naturally took
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: him to North America. So if you had these Phoenicians
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: that were known seafaring people and the water levels were higher,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: they could go towards like the Massachusetts area. And they
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: say that this was all a waterway that led straight
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: into Michigan and all these lakes, and that's where they
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: were mining all this copper. And this land, you know,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: was very fertile and fruitful and had all kinds of
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: natural resources. So from there, that's why you get all
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the mound structures and things down through the Ohio River
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Valley and you find all these giants in the Ohio
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: River Valley, because these Phoenetians started setting up shop and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: just started going down the Ohio River Valley down through there.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: It's Aisle Royal in the Great Plates, and I was
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: looking up doc. I was trying to see how many
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: tons of copper are missing. That's a number that kind
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: of sways. But one of the numbers that came up
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: here is an estimated five hundred thousand tons of copper
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: is missing.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said pounds, it's tons, it's tons. Yeah. And
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: they even find a pictograph there in that island, on
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: this huge stone. It's a Phoenician ship carved into the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: rock and it's with it. It's unmistakable, so they even
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: put their their stamp on it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: You've got the Canaanite shipwreck to anybody can look that up.
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: It's a more recent fine. If you just put in
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: Canaanite shipwreck, it'll come up. It was three thousand, three
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: hundred years old.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: And I'm connecting that with the Phoenicians, you know, because
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: the Canaanites and Phoenicians were basically the same group.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, just a different name for them. But not
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to throw us off from this, but I just wanted
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to show you guys this, This is like the final
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: thing I was want to talk about with those Elongad skulls,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: because I've talked about all the different variants and sizes
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But this right here
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: is if any of the stuff I talked about today
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: had you, you know, saying, I'm not sure if it's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: genetic or not, this should be the final nail on
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the coffin for you. In eighteen forty two, in a cave,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: they found an elongated skull or skeleton, rather full skeleton,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: and it was mummified. And when they started investigating and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: taking it apart and looking inside, and it was a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: female inside this female's belly was the elongated skull baby
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: steal in the womb unborn. So did they do some
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: surgery and cut it out and elongate the skull and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: then put it back in the womb.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm talking about with the Prometheus stuff.
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: I wonder living in an alien movie? Sorry, no, yeah, Prometheus?
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: You talking about like the oh my god, yeah, the
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: alien movie Prometheus. Is that what you're talking about?
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the alien movie Prometheus.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But this was in eighteen forty two, and it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: actually got drawings and stuff, but I read like some
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: little excerpts here. It was and this was in a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: journal that they had found from some of these explorers,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and this was so predominant that even there was a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: papalistic bull in the sixteenth century by the Pope forbidding
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the elongation of skulls, because they were still doing it
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: back in the sixteenth century. But it says here it
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: says as it was only a few years since two
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: mummies of children were carried to England, which, according to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the very exact description of doctor Bellamy, belonged to the
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: tribe of and A Jamayr's if I'm saying that correctly,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: But it says the two cranny of both of the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: children were scarce a year old. And this is while
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: they found in this cave said in all aspects the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: same form as those of the adults. We ourselves have
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: observed the same fact in many mummies of children of
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: tender age, who, although they had had cloths about them,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: were yet without any vestige or appearance of pressure on
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the cranium. More still, the same formation of head presents
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: itself in children yet unborn. And the truth we have
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: had convincing proof in the sight of a fetus enclosed
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: in a womb of a mummy of a pregnant woman,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: which we found in a cave in Hiyake, two leagues
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: from Tamar and which is at this moment in our collection.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Professor Dyote Pont from the Great Celebrity in the Department
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: of Abstructures has assured us that this fetus is one
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of seven months age and belongs to, according to the
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: very clearly formation of the cranium, to the tribe of Honkahs.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: But they have a drawing here of this guy.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Dude, it literally looks like something from Alien Covenant.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, yeah. See.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: One thing that I do like about you is you
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: do the same thing that I like to do. What
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: I noticed about you is when you pull that first
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: book out is I use little tabs.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: Also in my books. I have a lot.
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: I actually buy them on Amazon by the thousands, right,
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: and I got.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Them like you do, right.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: And I like what I like to do is when
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about something, I like to have a book
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: in front of me.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: I do the same exact thing.
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know how to put it, but I really
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: do appreciate that because a lot of people when they
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: do it, they do it off the top of their head,
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: and I know they memorized it, but you're like me,
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: you can't remember it that easy. So you have to
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: go back to a source, and you want to show
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: people what you actually see. Now, whenever I say something,
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: when I show it in a book, I'm just telling you, hey,
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: this is my evidence.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that this is fact. I'm like saying
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: this is fixing.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: What I'm saying is somebody took the time to record
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: this to give us, give us this information. So at
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: the bare minimum, we should take the time to research
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: and go deeper in it. And I can tell you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: one of the books that I do the most on
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: because I'm going over one of these books because I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: show you I'm serious when I say I'm like you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: with these times. So I really do appreciate that because.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: A lot of people that's the size of a true
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: researcher man, which I got a pretty good memory and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I can get probably eighty eighty percent of the story ride,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: but I want to try to get close to hundred
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: as I can. And also to anybody can make something
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: up and tell you something, and I'm the I might
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: as well be from Missouri, you know, I'm like, show me,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I'm from the show.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying that that's I will show you. Yeah,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: and when you're pulling out the book and you're showing
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: your evidence, you're not. You're saying that, hey, this is
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: what I read. I took the time to read this book.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: How can you How can anybody sit there and say
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: you're wrong if they haven't read the same animation you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: present it right, because you throw the went through it.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: You even highlighted.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: I noticed you even highlight some of the stuff that
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: you're doing it. And I do the same thing when
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: it's like double or triple important, like yeah, I got
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: to put a mark on here because this is very important.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: I actually have a series on my YouTube what I've
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: learned from reading this book, and I actually do what
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: you just do.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: I go through page through page.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 6: And show what I've read and do a little review. So, yeah,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: I'm liking this, this is good. I just have to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: say that.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: No, thank you man. Yeah, that's the thing that is,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: when you have a podcast, you read all these books.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you might remember a high percentage of it.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: But to me, I think it's important to put the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: tabs in there and highlight it. And then when I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: go to do a podcast on a certain show, I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: know what certain books I need when I pull them out,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I got quick references.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, if you get that shit wrong, people online definitely out.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: You know that much, especially in like YouTube comments. You know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: if you're not you could be fucking like one day
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: off on something. You're wrong, everything's completely.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Wrong when.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: The world of the time most of the.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Time, well you know what the best you know. Barrio
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: from Symbolic Studies even play it out.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: He's like, I love how like you get people that
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: will like say you're wrong but never tell you what
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: the correct answer is.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Mario had him.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, a really good point, and unfortunately he
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: says that happens a lot on your channel.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: That right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, people sit there and ship talk you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: and tell you're wrong, but I never heard it. Never
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: saw a fucking answer. What's the answer, what's the right one?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Oh? You don't even know either?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: Okay, he but I do have shout out to this hater. Sorry,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: I'll let you, I'll let you go to man. Shout
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: out to b Kane eleven C. Love that guy. He
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: thinks I don't like him. I like you, man, I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: like you man. I love it when you talk crap
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: about me.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know what is.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I was going to that's cool.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: I was just going to ask, like, what what is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: the DNA say when when you researched it? Because I've
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: heard different things, But what does the DNA say to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: you or how do you interpret it?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Well? According to this, you know, like I said, La
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: had done the DNA testing and all that stuff, and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: which he's got it in here in this book. But
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of big languages and stuff letters that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I have trouble understanding. But according to his breakdown because
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in here in this book he talks about, you know
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: this why certain numbers strand was found at such and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: such percent and this strand X number such and such
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: was found that this percentage, and what he said was
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: is basically uh, it's uh a mix of European and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Middle Eastern descent, but it's more predominant in Middle Eastern.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So LA's theory is and he's a Christian, so he
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: comes from a you know, Christian paradigm. Him and Fritz
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Zimmerman formed this idea that when the Israelites came out
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: of Egypt and Exodus and they come back into the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Holy Land, a lot of people that's not familiar. They
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: just see where God tells them to kill every man, woman,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and child, that it's just mass genocide. But if you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: actually do the research instead of the genealogies and the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: names of these tribes, all the ones that God commanded
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: them to kill every man, woman and child were Nephelum
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: giant clans. So he says that he believes, well, you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: got there the everything Bible.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just reading this what you're talking about,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: like the genealogy that actually has this in here.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: I have another one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people just I mean I was one
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: of them too, thinks it's boring and they just kind
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: of skim over it. But it's there for a reason.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And he says that when they started conquering all these
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: giant tribes, you know, these were you know, another name
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: for them, Tim said, was the Phoenicians, you know, and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: the Canaanites, and they were known as great seafaring people.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: So Fritz in La had come to the theory that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the ones that were smart and heard about all the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: other giant clans getting wiped out, that there was a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: great diaspora that a bunch of them fled north into
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Europe and the Caucaus Mountains and Sardinia and all these
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: other places. And then another remnant got on this boat
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: and went out to North America and settled into the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Great Ohio River Valley region and done the copper mining
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: and stuff like I mentioned earlier, and that they just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: moved their way south and went down into Peru. That
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: was his theory. And to me, I mean, that makes
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But like I said, I mean
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I have my predispositions.
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  Speaker 7: You've got the Phoenician Iberian artifacts showing up in mounds
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: in West Virginia, Ohio Valley.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: You know, this was a new Hampshire the America stonehenge.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: The professor from Harvard, Barry Fell, they found this stone
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: and they call it the bell tained Stones what they've
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: named it now. But the guy that owns the place,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I think his name was Roger Stone, found this huge
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: stone tablet with all this writing on it that he
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't decipher and nobody could, and so he was taking
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: pictures of it and sentenced all these universities. And the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: professor is trying to figure out, you know, what kind
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of writing was it? What did it say? And Barry
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Fell from Harvard responded and said he thinks he knows
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: what it is, but he wanted to examine it in person,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: so he went up to New Hampshire and looked at
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: him and deciphered the thing and he told him, he said,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: this is ancient Phoenician script and it says we the Canaanites,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: dedicate this site to bail and so that was a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: pretty big paradigm buster. And then also with their whole
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: diffusion narrative, I think they said it was next to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the gates of Hercules up there that they found pillars,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and there was ancient Phoenician script on it too, and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: it had said that we, we Canaanites, have been forced
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: into this land because we've been pushed out of our
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: home by Joshua and Caleb, the robbers. So they were
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: even documenting, you know, they were run out by Joshua
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: and Caleb and they were forced to go to these
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: other lands.
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  Speaker 7: It's almost if too there was and I mean, I've
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: seen all that. I agree with all that. In fact,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: you're shedding light on a couple of things that I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: didn't even know there.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: But there's also evidence of these other cultures from the
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: Middle East as well, So it's almost as if this
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: copper trade turned us into a commerce hub that brought
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: in people from all over the place, because you've got,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: you know, the Egyptian stuff, the Hebrew stuff. Barry Fall
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: you mentioned him. I've got one of his books. In fact,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: you actually told me to get it, doc, and I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: got it. And that book is full of stuff that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: you'll never hear about in a history class, in an
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: American history class. Chock full.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: And this ain't no big dummy either. I mean, this
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: is a Harvard professor, but he takes the standpoint of diffusionism.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: America is a true Old world man. There you go.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: The New World was built on the Old World.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: And one thing that I found too, with the la
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: that I'd never seen before. And you know how it is,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you can read something or see something a million times
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and it takes someone else with an outside perspective to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: show you something that's been in front of your face
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: the whole time. But he had mentioned in his book
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: that there's even commandments in the Bible condemning the practice
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: of elongating heads. You know, we find the elongated heads,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: you know, down there in the Middle East, But then
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it also ties them in with these giants and the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Book of Leviticus, there's commandments that kind of got muddied
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: up in the English translation, but when you go back
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: to the original languages, it tells you that you are
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: condemned and commanded not to encircle the rounds of your head.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: And that's a Leviticus, chapter nineteen and verse twenty seven.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: In the English it says, you shall not round the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: of thy beard. You shall not make any cuttings in
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: your flesh for the dead. And when you go down.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: He's got all the different word translations in the strongs
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: references and all that, And now I'll spare you all that.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: You can look that up on your own if you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: don't believe me. But the word in Hebrew for cough
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: means to surround or to encircle, and it says elsewhere
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: the same Hebrew word is translated to compass seven other times,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to go round about three times, or go about two times,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: and compass about two times. So this word is related
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: to the Hebrew word na cough, which means to encircle
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: with rope. So basically, when you take these translations of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: the Hebrew rope, the substitution would be you shall not
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: round the corners of your heads. However, based upon the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: information containing the preceding paragraphs, they could also be translated
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: you shall not surround or encircle the extremities of your head.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: So he was saying to him, it sounds just a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: lot like headbinding.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: It does sound a lot like headbinding, because.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: The alternative is that you're hired a yamica.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Right, That is really fascinating to me. I wonder if
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: because it's idolatry, right, yeah, you're you're yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: I wonder if the skull caps have something to do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: with this that go back to this in any kind
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: of a way, because I don't know, I don't know
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: much about this, but I've heard that like people used
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: to actually put real skulls on the top of their skull,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: like so like the skull cap that the religious people
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: where I don't remember what really, I'm yeah, so those
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: things used to be at one point, I've read that
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: those things were real, the real cut out parts of
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: a skull, and it symbolized in some type of way,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: like uh, taking that person's knowledge and like putting it
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: into your mind.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never heard anything.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. This was all wrapped up in some
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: stuff that I was looking into, just to do with
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: the skull in general, and like ancestral bloodlines and stuff
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: like that, and like the priest kings that we were
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: talking about earlier. Well, some of these guys, even the Sumerians.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: I think some of the royal families today or royal
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: families in recent day, trace their lineage back to some
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: of these the old gods, right Dragon Court, Yes, And
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: what you'll see in a lot of castles and royal
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: houses across the land is paintings of a woman holding
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: a skull, and the skull represents their ancestors and what
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 7: they believe to be a pure bloodline. And it's a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: bloodline that comes through the mother, not the father, and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: it's associated with their divine right to rule, the divine
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: right of kings. But it all goes back to this bloodline.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 7: And you so there's all this crazy stuff with the skull,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 7: you know, shock full of symbolism.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole veneration thing in the Dragon Court. I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: talk about that in the book. And I recently had
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: a conversation with Gary Wayne and we talked about that
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: in also Nicholas de Vere's book The Dragon Legacy, and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: they all traced their lineage back basically to Kane, and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Kane was the Serpent Seed, and they called themselves the
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Dragon Court, and they were basically screwed out of their
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: birthright and they have the divine right to rule. And
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: what's crazy is even Nicholas de Vere, he's from the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Devere family. That's one of the elite families too. They
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: claim to be from the Dragon Court. But he talks
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: about the predominant lines of these people were red hair,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: blue eyed, or wait about about that backwards, blonde hair,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: blue eyed or red haired green eyed. And these are
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: where you get all your story, sorry, all your story
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: stories of the fairies and the Alvin race and all
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: this kind of Lord Ring stuff that they are esoterically
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: talking about. This Dragon Court.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: That's what it's kind of like what I was saying earlier,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: what part of it is the truth and what part
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: of it is a bedtime story? The Lord of the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Rings stuff I believe is based it's like a it's
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: like a story trying to tell a true story. And
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  Speaker 4: like all the different races are different blood lines, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like Were they really fairies like Tinker fucking Bell
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  Speaker 4: or what? Are they trying to show a bloodline thing,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like the fairy bloodline, the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: dragon blood line, this that. It's like they all Somebody
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  Speaker 4: put in the comments. I love Gary Wayne, I do
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  Speaker 4: to worked with him several times. Sounds like you have
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  Speaker 4: to and that's kind of like what he says. It's
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  Speaker 4: like blood types.
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  Speaker 8: Let you close your eyes, look into the darkness, find
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  Speaker 8: the blazing star, focus on it, and to become the eclipse.
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  Speaker 1: Don't fear.
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  Speaker 2: That the show will be God.
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  Speaker 1: And death. You be shure