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Trust Yourself First: The Foundation of Mediumship With Claudine · Mediumship Sparks-The Next Chapter

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mediumship Sparks, where we connect more deeply with
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Speaker 1: spirit and source and follow the sparks of insight and
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Speaker 1: inspiration that bring us greater awareness, healing, and just more
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Speaker 1: flow into our lives. I'm Noel dean intuitive medium, licensed therapist,
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Speaker 1: and your host. The quick note before we begin. This
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Speaker 1: podcast is for educational purposes only and provides general information.
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Speaker 1: It is not medical or psychological advice and is not
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Speaker 1: a substitute for care from a licensed health profession I'm
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Speaker 1: so grateful we get to step into this together. Let's
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Speaker 1: dig in. Welcome to Mediumship Sparks. Claudine. It's really nice
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Speaker 1: to have you here.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to remember this, but
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Speaker 1: probably five or six years ago, we were in a
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Speaker 1: class and we had to do a little practice reading
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Speaker 1: on each other.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't think I do, only because I was
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Speaker 2: so served. I think at the time I was in
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Speaker 2: between am I a medium? I have to prove myself?
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Speaker 2: And I really felt this, I need to prove myself.
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Speaker 2: So I was just nervous all the time, and then
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Speaker 2: all I was like what I'm talking to and stuck.
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Speaker 1: All yeah, I had to get over that part too,
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Speaker 1: but I was blown away by you. I was very intimidated.
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Speaker 1: You did such a good reading and I was new
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Speaker 1: to actual mediumship. You were so clear and it was amazing.
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Speaker 1: It's surprising to hear how nervous you were because you
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Speaker 1: My impression was you really seemed in your element. And look,
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Speaker 1: you're a beautiful young woman, and you're quite a bit
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Speaker 1: younger than I am, but you have a babyface, so
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Speaker 1: you look eighteen and you're so good, and I'm like, shit,
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Speaker 1: what am I doing with my flights?
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Speaker 2: I never grew up. That's the trick. Ship was something
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Speaker 2: that I just know I could do, and I didn't
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Speaker 2: realize I was doing it all my life. And it's
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Speaker 2: funny because I took the mediumship courses. Am I doing
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Speaker 2: the right thing? Am I on my right path? Why
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Speaker 2: the hell am I doing this? Getting paid for this?
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Speaker 2: All these thoughts coming to my mind and come into
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Speaker 2: these little synchronous days, and that's yes, I'm on my
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Speaker 2: right path.
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Speaker 1: I want to stick with this for just a moment.
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Speaker 1: I love that you just said that this path of
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Speaker 1: mediumship for me, it came on the tail end of
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Speaker 1: dealing with breast cancer and getting treatment and having my
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Speaker 1: brain braced and not being able to do the work
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Speaker 1: that I was doing. This path feels a little bit
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Speaker 1: like feeling your way in the dark, and the only
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Speaker 1: thing that feels super real is what feels right in
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Speaker 1: your body and your gut, in your intuition. But that's it,
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Speaker 1: right there is the crux of the entire work. You
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Speaker 1: were nervous and you were like, what the hell am
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Speaker 1: I doing? And what came out of your mouth was
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Speaker 1: beautiful and profound, and I related to it. That's probably
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Speaker 1: still how you're working now, although you have a lot
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Speaker 1: more confidence, You've taken more courses, you've done lots and
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Speaker 1: lots of readings. That feels like the foundation of all
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Speaker 1: of this for all of us.
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Speaker 2: Following a heart and knowing that you're doing it, you're
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Speaker 2: on your right path. Self trust, self belief. It is
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Speaker 2: so important and it candapults you because you can get
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Speaker 2: all the signs and messages and not see them because
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Speaker 2: you're not paying attention. You're thinking about the past, thing
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Speaker 2: about the future. You don't believe it. You're like, not,
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Speaker 2: that's all in my head. How many hummingbirds have to
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Speaker 2: hit you over the head before you realize that's your
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Speaker 2: spirits right, that is a sign from spirit. And I
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Speaker 2: say it lightly, but I also say it so truthfully
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Speaker 2: that we are told that it's not all fake by
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Speaker 2: loved ones, by our parents, or so it's all in
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Speaker 2: your heads. Make believe that's not real. They're saying it
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Speaker 2: out alone. But it's so detrimental to our development as
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Speaker 2: sensitive women and people in general.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, if we weren't socialized to believe that when people
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Speaker 1: are quote dead, they're gone or they're often heaven somewhere
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Speaker 1: and untouchable, and we only hope they're okay, and we worry.
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Speaker 1: And this is a belief. I'm not saying that they're
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Speaker 1: wrong and we're right. I believe as firmly, and you
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Speaker 1: believe as firmly as every other person who has a
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Speaker 1: strong religious belief believes in their beliefs. So there's no
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Speaker 1: right or wrong. There's what feels true in our own essence.
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Speaker 2: That was a saying that angels are jealous that humans
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Speaker 2: have choice, they have choice in what to believe. And
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Speaker 2: isn't that fascinating.
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Speaker 1: I've never heard that.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's in my brain.
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Speaker 1: It's still can't Claudine, it still counts. I'm listening.
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Speaker 2: I do believe that we have the power of choice,
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Speaker 2: and I want to go to you know, Inana the
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Speaker 2: she is known as the goddess of Heaven and Earth,
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Speaker 2: and she's ancient and Samerian. She's one of the first
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Speaker 2: written goddesses. She chose to become queen. She crowned herself,
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Speaker 2: she claimed a queendom, and she was gifted all these
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Speaker 2: things by tuning into her own in her voice or intuition.
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Speaker 2: I love Nana's journey claiming our queendom.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to relate to this,
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Speaker 1: but it feels a bit related to what you're saying.
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Speaker 1: I was talking to the medium and she was talking
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Speaker 1: about when she picks something up and she shares it,
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Speaker 1: or she picks something up and she knows it's right.
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Speaker 1: It's like a thrill on the inside, but not in
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Speaker 1: the way that earthly things are. It felt different to her,
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Speaker 1: something magical and deep, not crowning herself, but embracing those
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Speaker 1: gifts in a way that you're taught not to and like, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving them back, I'm not giving them up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. We're taught not to. We're taught
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Speaker 2: to be humble or to give and not receive again
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Speaker 2: by loving parents or maybe not so loving, depending on
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Speaker 2: your situation. Better. Yeah, I do believe that people teach
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Speaker 2: from what they're taught. So it's just the behavior, yeah
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Speaker 2: that lessons our power.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not that anybody was trying necessarily to hurt us.
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Speaker 1: That's just what we're taught kind of thing. But when
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Speaker 1: I look back now from when I was younger, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure I would have been completely freaked out to have
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Speaker 1: had gifts really show themselves when I was young. But
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Speaker 1: the feeling of being connected have good boundaries. But when
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Speaker 1: we remove the barriers to that. It sounds silly to
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Speaker 1: say it this way, but the only word in my
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Speaker 1: head now is otherworldly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, otherworldly, other worldly but accessible to us.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like it's out there and then it's right here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like far but close. I think that's the beauty
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Speaker 2: of mediumship is it feels like you're tuning in to
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Speaker 2: somebody somewhere out there. But yeah, you're Our energy is
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Speaker 2: always connected, it's always tapped in together. Their energy are energy.
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Speaker 2: That part doesn't die, just the body. The body is
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Speaker 2: just like our vehicle. We can lose it and get
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Speaker 2: another one. So you got to be too attached to it.
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Speaker 2: Just take good care of it. Like your car, you
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Speaker 2: want to put oil and you want to get cast.
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Speaker 1: Fair analogy break paths. Also, how you just described it
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Speaker 1: also can eliminate the fear of death, because you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you mean, I'm going to be floating around, going where
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Speaker 1: I want to, supporting the people that I love, learning things,
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Speaker 1: having different experiences. I'm not going to be limited by
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Speaker 1: this or my fears or my anxieties or my insecurities.
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Speaker 1: I don't have that fear, how about you.
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Speaker 2: I trained as a death dolla and it opened my
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Speaker 2: eyes to death in a physical sense because before training
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Speaker 2: as a death dola, I was fascinated with communicating whisper,
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Speaker 2: so I never really felt scared as much as I
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Speaker 2: was sad when death happened. It's awful. It's very heartbreaking,
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Speaker 2: and it haunts the physical people. Yeah, and then it
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Speaker 2: does those who have died because they have evolved. It's
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Speaker 2: like a pokemon. They're living their evolution of their soul.
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Speaker 2: Training its death. Do I become more empathic of the
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Speaker 2: pain of death seeing how it affects them? Now I
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Speaker 2: do feel the sadness deeper. I see death that's the
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Speaker 2: scar that we wear, and when we eventually die, we
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Speaker 2: die with beautiful scars of our dead loved ones. And
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Speaker 2: with each scar, it doesn't get easier. We'd remember them
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Speaker 2: in a different way. Our memories get deeper, our love
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Speaker 2: gets stronger for them, but there's always going to be
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Speaker 2: that sadness and you can never get over a death. Yeah. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: I'm a little more on the cop No, No, I'm
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Speaker 2: not scared of it personally, but I am empathetic towards it.
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Speaker 2: As we're getting older, we see more death. That's why
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Speaker 2: I'm like such a big advocate of no regrets, right,
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Speaker 2: live your life, and that's a beautiful thing about death. Still,
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Speaker 2: the work is if somebody dying, we can help them.
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Speaker 2: We can help them write those letters, those last errands,
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Speaker 2: or feel like when they leave, they can leave okay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, complete with what they came for.
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Speaker 2: It's fascinating how ghost stores are tied with unresolved that
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Speaker 2: oh you did, so I'm onto you for a thousand
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Speaker 2: years because my soul is still tormented. I think of
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Speaker 2: that true, that soul that never rested. So let's fix that.
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Speaker 2: It's like a real sins before we die.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Yeah, and come back and help the people
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Speaker 1: that are still here heal from our relationship if we can.
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Speaker 1: That's another thing I really do love about mediumship. And
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Speaker 1: I've certainly had my own journey with my sister, who
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Speaker 1: passed not quite two years ago. We have a better
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Speaker 1: relationship now than we ever had when she was still
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Speaker 1: walking around, and I'm so happy about that.
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Speaker 2: I would love to hear more. That'd be such a
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Speaker 2: beautiful thing because the bond of as I have a
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Speaker 2: sister is so strong, it's so special, and that she
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Speaker 2: was you do you feel her or get like messages
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Speaker 2: from her, like through insects, animal sign.
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Speaker 1: I haven't checked with her. Just recently I started hearing
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Speaker 1: the commercial jingles for commercials that I would have heard
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Speaker 1: from my childhood.
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be her. And I don't drive
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Speaker 1: a whole lot because but when I drive and I
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Speaker 1: think of her, I put on some eighties music, and
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Speaker 1: if it's good music, I just have a sense of
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Speaker 1: her being there with me. And up until recently, every
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Speaker 1: time I'm doing a podcast episode, because I do a
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Speaker 1: lot of them, I'm the only physical one there and
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Speaker 1: she and our grandmother always show up, and I love
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Speaker 1: that my grandmother's been a huge support and another person
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Speaker 1: who lives very differently on the other side than how
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Speaker 1: they when they were here. She wouldn't have been somebody
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Speaker 1: I would have gone to for support, but she has
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Speaker 1: shown up for me hundreds of times in this way.
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Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for that. It's nice when it's the
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Speaker 1: two of them together. When I rebooted my podcast last August,
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Speaker 1: I did a three part series with my sister and
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Speaker 1: she shared some really beautiful things. Just for her to
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Speaker 1: be humble and honest enough to own her side of
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Speaker 1: stuff was hugely healing. She really worked to heal from
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Speaker 1: our dynamic and her own issues because she had some
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Speaker 1: mental health issues when she was here. She worked very
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Speaker 1: hard to heal that stuff quickly so that she could
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Speaker 1: be a part of what I'm doing. Because she was
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Speaker 1: also a believer of these things. I just don't think
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Speaker 1: she did anything really with it, but she probably would
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Speaker 1: have loved to have been a part of it, and
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Speaker 1: now she is, which is really cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like going back to believe, hard beliefs evolved as well.
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Speaker 2: Once we lose the physical tether of the body, Oh
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Speaker 2: my god, what life is fun? Why didn't I learn
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Speaker 2: more right, Like, yeah, it really turns into perspective the
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Speaker 2: restraints that we have with our thoughts. How our thoughts
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Speaker 2: imprison us.
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Speaker 1: Or our beliefs both.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think of that Tarot cards, the devil
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Speaker 2: have you do? You know? Taro?
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Speaker 1: Not really, it's.
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Speaker 2: Got this angry looking devil. Usually generically it'll be a
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Speaker 2: devil and there'll be a man and a woman and
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Speaker 2: they're cuffed to him and change chances and they look
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Speaker 2: miserable in their naked there's a devil, but if you
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Speaker 2: see it closely, the chains are loose. So it just
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Speaker 2: comes to show we've imprison ourselves with our thoughts. So
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Speaker 2: the devil card isn't really a scary card. It's more
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Speaker 2: like a so what's holding you back? What's causing these thoughts?
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Speaker 2: The retrospective card. That's all Tarot cards. I love Tero.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a beautiful way to illustrate intuition.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice way to say it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. They's just like pictures and then you read and
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Speaker 2: it's like the tests where they show you blobs or
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Speaker 2: shock yeah or shock thank you. They're like, what do
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Speaker 2: you see in this image? Is exactly what Tarot is
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Speaker 2: because you can read any card they probably have. Hellow
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Speaker 2: kidding tarot or any kind of tarot. It's your own
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Speaker 2: intuition reading it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you have different tools that you use.
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Speaker 2: I love tarot. I feel like when I first started
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Speaker 2: on Instagram coming out as an intuitive person. First was
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Speaker 2: my art. I painted all these goddesses. I love painting goddesses.
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Speaker 2: I have three boys. They're like, Mom, are always painting
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Speaker 2: naked women. I'm like painting naked goddesses. Anyways, I digress.
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Speaker 2: So these goddesses evolved into tarot because tarot such a
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Speaker 2: beautiful way that go. Let me read you, let me
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Speaker 2: help you understand. I used hero to go deeper into problems,
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Speaker 2: but I started noticing everyone's problems were all the same.
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Speaker 2: They're all like, why doesn't he like me? Does he
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Speaker 2: like me? And I'm like, dude, you're paying me money
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Speaker 2: to read about him? What so why are you not
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Speaker 2: asking me about you? This is like you're giving your
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Speaker 2: money away. Every freaking taro session would turn into a lecture.
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Speaker 2: It's not about him, it's about you. And then I
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Speaker 2: went into the mediumship and I thought, okay, mediumship, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can do mediumship. And mediumship turned into a very
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Speaker 2: similar thing. What do my guides want me to know?
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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, that's not how it works. We don't
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Speaker 2: want them to tell us. We want guidance. We make
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Speaker 2: the choice they support. So that started frustrating me, and
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Speaker 2: I evolved into this, Okay, we got to go into
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Speaker 2: self trust here. Believe and trust yourself so that tarot, mediumship,
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Speaker 2: any other form of divination you'd like to use or
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Speaker 2: not makes sense and doesn't come from an outside or
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Speaker 2: has it come from you.
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling very aware that. I also because self trust
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Speaker 1: has been such a huge issue in my life that
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling aware now in this chapter to stop asking
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Speaker 1: what do you guys think I should do? What do
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Speaker 1: you guys think I should do? And bring it back
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Speaker 1: to myself, which is very scary because I have left
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Speaker 1: up a lot of things in my life. This could
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Speaker 1: also be a beautiful justification for continuing to ask them
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Speaker 1: what I should do. I'm under the impression but my
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Speaker 1: spiritual team and myself we all signed up to get
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Speaker 1: a few things done. I want to know what those
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Speaker 1: things are that everybody is hanging around for wanting to
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Speaker 1: participate in.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ways to ask it so you don't give
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Speaker 2: way power. Right, these are options I'm looking into hardgo
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Speaker 2: This POTHA does outlook, so to forecast makes sense. That
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Speaker 2: way you can make a good decision based on which
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Speaker 2: outcome brun gotcha. Yeah, And then asking for your team
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Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, I made this choice, are you
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Speaker 2: coming you got my back or not? Well, let's do
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Speaker 2: it together.
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Speaker 1: That is a different way of looking at it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just get so annoyed. And I am somebody
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Speaker 2: who came from abuse. I was abused by my stepfather
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Speaker 2: twelve years. I had the self trust thing is I'm
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Speaker 2: speaking from experience because this has been what was weighing
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Speaker 2: on my life the whole time, and I still struggle
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Speaker 2: with it. I'm not perfect at it, but I strive
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Speaker 2: to tapen to trust what's coming through. And I'm circling
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Speaker 2: back to the medium ship story. In the beginning, when
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Speaker 2: I took Samantha and Denise's class, I was doing really
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Speaker 2: well mediumship. I was like, ma'am, I think I took
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Speaker 2: all three back to back. They were like, oh, look,
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Speaker 2: sometimes if you don't have to do that. But I
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Speaker 2: realized because I was trusting what was coming through and
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Speaker 2: I've been working so much on trusting the science and myself.
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Speaker 2: That was what helped me, and I feel like that
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Speaker 2: is still what helps me now with Tony, I'm doing
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Speaker 2: second investigation, which is freaking hard. Sometimes with this, give
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Speaker 2: us a picture of somebody's eyeballs and you'd be like,
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Speaker 2: what can you get from this picture? Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 2: So if you didn't cross what comes through, you're going
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Speaker 2: to second guess everything. So self trust is so important
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Speaker 2: for me. I feel like that's foundation, and once you
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Speaker 2: get that, everything is like easy.
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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, it's hard though.
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Speaker 2: It's the hardest one.
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Speaker 1: When I think of the fraud complex all these ways
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Speaker 1: that we can sabotage ourselves by second guessing. We am
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Speaker 1: I to think that anybody would connect with me, or
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Speaker 1: there's nothing special about me to do this, or I
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Speaker 1: wasn't born this way, I didn't have this experience when
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Speaker 1: I was a There's a lot of ways that people
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Speaker 1: can discount themselves. Self trust is something I've been focusing
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Speaker 1: on in the podcast, trying to talk more about it,
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Speaker 1: to support other people to hear something that's gonna help
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Speaker 1: something click differently than what they're already thinking.
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Speaker 2: I love drag queens so much. When I was a
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Speaker 2: little girl, I saw Repaul in the eighties or nineties
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to be her. When I found out
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Speaker 2: she was a man, was like, what, how can a
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Speaker 2: man be so beautiful? So I've loved drag my entire life.
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Speaker 2: I've watched Drag Race since season one. I'm an ava
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Speaker 2: fun and Riupaul always says that we have an inner saboteur, right,
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Speaker 2: that's our own inner doubts, and we don't have to
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Speaker 2: pay her any attention. And she always closes each show
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Speaker 2: with if you can't love yourself, how the hell can
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Speaker 2: you love anybody else? Can I get an amen? Repaul
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Speaker 2: being in my life energetically has really help with that
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Speaker 2: self trust. And this is how much I love her.
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Speaker 2: She's on my bookshelf, a handsome man. I love RW.
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Speaker 1: But what you're also speaking about is how universal it is.
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Speaker 1: Yes to walk through that, on that path and walk
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Speaker 1: through that. It's occurring to me like a coming of age.
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Speaker 1: As we get older, we learn to care less about
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Speaker 1: other people's opinions because we kind of embrace who we
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Speaker 1: are better, because we know who we are deeper and stronger.
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Speaker 1: But that's still different than self trust. That's more like
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Speaker 1: self confidence and being less self conscious. What you're talking
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Speaker 1: about is it's just a distinct life lesson.
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Speaker 2: As you were speaking, I was thinking our crown era, right,
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Speaker 2: we have the mother, we have the maiden. Chron don't
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Speaker 2: skip the sorcerers. So we go from this nurture to
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Speaker 2: this knowing to the confidence at the end. It's different
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Speaker 2: than the self trust. So maybe that self trust piece
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Speaker 2: is at sorceress stage where we're in between.
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Speaker 1: You're saying about your readings being frustrated because you could
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Speaker 1: hear people continuing to turn over their power. No, tell
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Speaker 1: me about this, man. I remember in class you were
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Speaker 1: saying how you are really enjoying doing fairy readings?
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Speaker 2: Is it? I am a fairy?
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Speaker 1: Okay, you actually look like one. Honestly, I'm not surprised
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Speaker 1: to hear you say that.
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Speaker 2: I'm a fairy energetically in the sense that I want
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Speaker 2: to play all day and eat and drink and be merry.
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Speaker 2: I love all the earthly pleasures. I'm like, I'm on
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Speaker 2: earth being. I want to be earthy and I want
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Speaker 2: to do all the earthy things. And I don't care
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Speaker 2: if this hamburger has msgry or whatever bad stuff you stated,
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Speaker 2: I'm still going to enjoy it because my body is
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Speaker 2: very strong. So I'm that mentality. And I do believe
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Speaker 2: in the Faye, and I really believe that the fay
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Speaker 2: are here. I call them fairies, but they're actually just
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Speaker 2: Earth energies, and I'm so in chin with them. I
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Speaker 2: believe that our own Earth, our own gaya, our own
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Speaker 2: mother is literally mother, and she's a fane her own right,
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Speaker 2: and we work off of each other. We're all energies
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Speaker 2: that cold this space that we can get along. I
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Speaker 2: feel like fairies are very reasonable. Why is it that
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Speaker 2: aliens are more believable than Earth energies that we've been
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Speaker 2: writing about for centuries. They're in books, They're even in
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Speaker 2: the freaking Bible. We have giants, we can have fairies.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's dissing fairies here.
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Speaker 2: I feel like So before I was Mediums of journeys,
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Speaker 2: which is what my branding is now, I was the
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Speaker 2: death Fairy. And before the Death Fairy, I was Dragon fairy.
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Speaker 2: So fairy has been very ingrained in my.
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Speaker 1: Energy and what is like it? So do you do
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Speaker 1: fairy readings? No?
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Speaker 2: I don't. I am in chin with them. So if
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Speaker 2: they're true, I'll be like, oh, you have a lot
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Speaker 2: of earth energies around you. I just see them more
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Speaker 2: and I feel them around and I don't have a
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Speaker 2: green thumb, but I still am able to work with them,
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Speaker 2: if that makes sense, and I feel them, and that's
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Speaker 2: one of my guides. Strong guides are fairy guides. I
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Speaker 2: feel like a reading is a reading, and we can
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Speaker 2: label it as an angel, spirit reading or fair reading
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Speaker 2: or terror reading, that it's coming from our intuition, our
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Speaker 2: inspiritation and spiritation, get it, our highest spirit, our highest
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Speaker 2: self essentially all these whatever you call them. So it's
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Speaker 2: just we see blah blah blah and translated and it
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Speaker 2: comes on those.
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Speaker 1: Worth m gotcha, I hear you about. We all relate
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Speaker 1: differently to different maybe types of beings. There are times
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Speaker 1: I feel pretty in touch with angels.
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Speaker 2: Angels just have different frequency. Don't you think you just
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Speaker 2: know what's an angel and you know it's a guide.
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Speaker 2: You know it's very It's fascinating how all these energies
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Speaker 2: have their own essence. I feel like angel energy is
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Speaker 2: pure healing.
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Speaker 1: With some snarkiness.
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Speaker 2: Oh you got some snarky angels. I haven't encountered those.
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Speaker 2: Please let me more.
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Speaker 1: I was sharing a story recently about an angel VINGI
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Speaker 1: has been a few years. I get a visual where
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Speaker 1: she's doing the healing. I'm dressed up with a coconut
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Speaker 1: bra and a grass skirt and I'm playing a ukulele
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Speaker 1: and singing while she's doing the healing.
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Speaker 2: That is so fun, very energy.
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Speaker 1: How I experience angels and guides are very different. Some
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Speaker 1: are just silent but you can see them, and then
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Speaker 1: others have a lot of personality, very different than the others.
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Speaker 1: I would have thought I was ridiculous if I heard
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Speaker 1: myself say this even four years ago.
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Speaker 2: And that's the hard part about talking openly about what
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Speaker 2: we do. Speaking about it so nonchalant lane people being
23:56
Speaker 2: are you talking about It's like being dismiss it. We're
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Speaker 2: so scared of what other people saying. I still am
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Speaker 2: and social media does not help. That's a fun angel story.
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Speaker 1: Please.
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Speaker 2: When I was first learning about who my guides are,
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Speaker 2: now it's meditating and I was like, got to learn
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Speaker 2: who my guides are. I think I picked up a
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Speaker 2: book like Ask your Angels or something like that, but
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Speaker 2: I really wanted to meet my spirit guide, so I
24:23
Speaker 2: see myself in a forest and then I see a
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Speaker 2: man with dark, curly hair and darker skin and I
24:30
Speaker 2: was like, oh is that he's like shirtless and wearing
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Speaker 2: like a little Tarzan surroun. I'm like, okay, am I
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Speaker 2: just speaking a purb. Why is this half naked man
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Speaker 2: showing up? And I say what's your name? And he
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Speaker 2: said urie'all. I was like, okay, Yuri, y'all and his
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Speaker 2: face it was so embedded in my mind. When I
24:51
Speaker 2: got out of the meditation, I googled Uriel and I
24:55
Speaker 2: noticed that Yuriel is an archangel, and I was like what.
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Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic, the Heuriel is one of the angels.
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Speaker 2: I never heard about Michael Gabriel, you know Raphael basically,
25:08
Speaker 2: So I was like, how did my grandma never teach
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Speaker 2: me about Uriel? What the hell? And another part of
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Speaker 2: me was like, wow, I met an angel. When I
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Speaker 2: was googling images of urie'all. It looked just like the
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Speaker 2: guy I saw, maybe more close, but he had dark crown,
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Speaker 2: curly American and I just thought it was so so cool,
25:27
Speaker 2: and he is the angel of knowledge. So I just
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Speaker 2: have been holding onto Uriel this whole time, I'm like, heur, y'all,
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Speaker 2: I know you're still with me. Helped me out with
25:38
Speaker 2: I've just been studying and learning more about mediumship and
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Speaker 2: all these different modalities and metaphysics and all that. I
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Speaker 2: truly believe that ever since then, it's really led me
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Speaker 2: into this rabbit hole of knowledge.
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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. We can talk about it casually because we've
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Speaker 1: had occurrences and interactions, But if you had held onto
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Speaker 1: no no archangel is going to talk to me, or
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Speaker 1: he's got no clothes or practically no c whatever the
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Speaker 1: thought might be, to discount the experience that you had,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't get much more pure than that. You were
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Speaker 1: not expecting it. It showed up. You went to validate,
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh my goodness, it's the same vision that
26:14
Speaker 1: I got. That's just so perfect For people who don't
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Speaker 1: have the confidence to believe. I hope they take something
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Speaker 1: from that story, is that there are going to be
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Speaker 1: many times along our mediumship and spiritual unfoldment to prove
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Speaker 1: ourselves wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Two pieces. One circling back to how I learned
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Speaker 2: about Tony stock Wall. The way I did mediumship back
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Speaker 2: then was not traditional. I did truant mediumship. I would
26:41
Speaker 2: go into these movements and feel spirit and even invite
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Speaker 2: them close to me, and they're like, you really got
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Speaker 2: to look into Tony stock Wall, and that's how I
26:50
Speaker 2: learned about Tony. And then going back to that piece
26:53
Speaker 2: of trusting what's coming through and not going to begin
26:56
Speaker 2: into all the fear around spirituality. What the hell is
27:01
Speaker 2: that spiritual awakening for your That's so stupid. I hate that.
27:07
Speaker 1: How do you really feel, Clauding?
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Speaker 2: It just makes me so annoyed because then I hear
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Speaker 2: people saying I'm going through my dark knight in my soul.
27:14
Speaker 2: I'm like, welcome to your forties and fifties. Everything sucks
27:16
Speaker 2: when your body's not working. Of course, it owing through
27:18
Speaker 2: it or spiritual awakening being scary or evil or demonic
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Speaker 2: time you just don't realize it.
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Speaker 1: But also it's the context of it. I hear what
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Speaker 1: you're saying. You also had spiritual experiences from when you
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Speaker 1: were young, so maybe that kept the seed of doubt
27:39
Speaker 1: about some of the very Catholic things that you were taught.
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Speaker 1: But some people can really believe that what they're experiencing
27:45
Speaker 1: or pushing away is evil, it's not for their highest good.
27:48
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways we can sabotage what could
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Speaker 1: be a spiritual opening or awakening because we feel like
27:54
Speaker 1: something is really wrong. Now I have nothing in my
27:57
Speaker 1: environment that tells me it's okay.
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Speaker 2: And it's funny. We're circling back to beliefs, and I
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Speaker 2: believe in my case what's helped me be so brave
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Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it. I was physically
28:11
Speaker 2: abused for twelve years, so I'm like, I'm not scared
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Speaker 2: of ghosts.
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Speaker 1: What are they gonna do?
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Speaker 2: Scare me? Good? Give me a good scare. I want one.
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Speaker 2: It keeps me alive and young and excited. Spirit never
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Speaker 2: scared me like a human scares me. So if anything
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Speaker 2: at night, my dark thoughts are like did I lock
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Speaker 2: the windows? What if somebody comes in? Do I have
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Speaker 2: anything around me that I can protect myself? Those are
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Speaker 2: thoughts that creep into my mind that ghosts or spirits
28:39
Speaker 2: or demons or fairy boo. I love scary movies too,
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Speaker 2: so it's for me this is very funny, very silly.
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Speaker 1: I avoid them like the plague because then I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh crap, I'm going to remember this as I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to fall asleep. Tonight and it will really make me
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Speaker 1: feel unsettled. I have my own not like paranoia. Thanks
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