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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, June 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June second is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now the guy slant it to play Rooster's dad in
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Speaker 1: Top Gun three. J jack Rick, I'm not sure the reference.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the second one yet. And welcome at
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Speaker 1: a Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J. P. Shadrick. We've got
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Speaker 1: a busy, busy show coming up today. Organized Team Activities
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Speaker 1: Week number two well underway now. Wide receiver Christian Kirk
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Speaker 1: will join us in studio. Oh and about fifteen minutes
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Speaker 1: or so, we'll get his thoughts on arriving in Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: settling into the Jaguars offense, the o t as, working
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Speaker 1: with a quarterback, all the above, his past in Arizona.
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Speaker 1: He's actually from the Phoenix area and then played for
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals of course the first done four or five
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Speaker 1: years of his career before coming over here in free agency.
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Speaker 1: Will will visit with him coming up. Senior writer John
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Speaker 1: Osier will join us as well. That's at the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the hour and he'll finish the show with us today.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghaman is out, but he'll be back at some
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Speaker 1: point next week and we'll hear from Bloggs again in
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Speaker 1: the final week of organized team activities will go around
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Speaker 1: the National Football League as well well. Earlier this week,
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Speaker 1: the organized team activities got back underway on Tuesday after
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Speaker 1: the Memorial Day holiday. Three practices last week, and then
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Speaker 1: the team was off Friday through Monday, the holiday actual
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Speaker 1: holiday on Monday, and then back to work Tuesday. Three
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Speaker 1: practices on the schedule for this week, and by league rule,
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Speaker 1: they can't have more than two in a row this week.
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Speaker 1: Next week there will be four on the schedule at least,
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Speaker 1: and historically teams on that tenth and final O tier
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Speaker 1: at scheduled for Friday of next week, a lot of
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Speaker 1: times do a team building activity or even you know,
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Speaker 1: sometimes give the team off. We'll see what Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: as in mind on the tenth and final O t
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Speaker 1: A of next week. But I will get a chance
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Speaker 1: as media to be out there one day per week.
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Speaker 1: We're out on the O t A number one last
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Speaker 1: week and then out there on Tuesday this week. They
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Speaker 1: started practice on the game field and then a little
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Speaker 1: pop up shower came along. The rain was fine enough,
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Speaker 1: and then a rumble of thunder and and bang, there
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Speaker 1: you go. The lightning moved the practice indoors into the
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Speaker 1: dream Finders Homes Flex field for the remainder of the workout,
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Speaker 1: and you know, of course, all eyes are on the
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Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence and this offense and how things feel.
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Speaker 1: And maybe you get a better sense after a week
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Speaker 1: of practices, at least from a head coach Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: three practices in going in to that fourth practice, he
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Speaker 1: spoke before Tuesday's practice about maybe an overview of the team,
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Speaker 1: what he feels after one week of organized team activities.
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Speaker 1: It was a good week, you know for us. UM again,
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Speaker 1: it was the first time really since that first minicamp
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Speaker 1: several weeks ago, to be you know out there and
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Speaker 1: the way the way I've got a set up, you know, Um,
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Speaker 1: we're working some first and second down, some third down,
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Speaker 1: some red zone stuff and throughout the course of the week,
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Speaker 1: so we're throwing a lot at the guys. And right now,
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Speaker 1: the guys have really handled the information. They've taken it
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Speaker 1: from the classroom to the practice field and and that's
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Speaker 1: really what we want to see right now. You can't
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Speaker 1: see physicality and all that kind of stuff and tackling
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Speaker 1: and all that yet, but um, you know, the guys
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Speaker 1: are they're moving in the right way. They're they're practicing fast,
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Speaker 1: they're they're protecting each other, and that's what we want
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Speaker 1: to see, and that's what I want to see this
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Speaker 1: time of year. You gotta love that attitude from Doug Peterson.
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Speaker 1: He just understands the pace of the off season. And
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this and shows before the last few weeks. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win the super Bowl today, but you
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Speaker 1: can win the super Bowl by being ready to go
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Speaker 1: for the regular season with your team healthy and motivated
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Speaker 1: and locked in and ready. And that's what they're going
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Speaker 1: for right now. The pace of just bringing in the
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Speaker 1: class from the classroom to the practice field. Don't get
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Speaker 1: anybody hurt right now. You know, we know exactly what
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go over today in this time of year,
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Speaker 1: and we can handle the rest, come training camp and
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Speaker 1: into the regular season to get ready for the opponent
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Speaker 1: week to week. So I'm not gonna reinvent the wheel
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Speaker 1: and do this a different way. He's done it before,
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Speaker 1: he's built it before, he's been in the league, as
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Speaker 1: we've said all over this offseason, since he knows the
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Speaker 1: schedule of how things are supposed to feel and look
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Speaker 1: around here. Now. Part of the situation here is taking
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Speaker 1: over what happened last year with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course,
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Speaker 1: for Doug Peterson, taking over the remnants of the Urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer regime and an organization that was shattered in a
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Speaker 1: lot of different ways in that locker room after everything
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Speaker 1: that happened a year ago. And there's a fine line
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Speaker 1: though on as he said earlier this offseason, regaining the
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Speaker 1: trust of the football team and the people on the
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Speaker 1: football side after everything thing that happened a year ago. Well,
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Speaker 1: there's a fine line between that but still getting work
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Speaker 1: done and pushing the team forward and striving for a
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Speaker 1: few things. Yes, there might be limits to that in
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Speaker 1: the off season program, but there's still some checklist of
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Speaker 1: things they need to get done, and they have to
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Speaker 1: push towards certain things and certain milestones in the off season.
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Speaker 1: And Doug Peterson earlier this week understands that fine line
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Speaker 1: between regaining the trust and still pushing the players the
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Speaker 1: right way. As as I gained their trust, I can
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Speaker 1: push a little bit harder, um, And there is a
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Speaker 1: fine line there, and there is a balance there, and
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Speaker 1: that just comes from just understanding and really reaching out
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Speaker 1: to the players and and kind of you know, seeing
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Speaker 1: how they react to certain things. Um, you know, I
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Speaker 1: want to push them in practice. I want to challenge
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Speaker 1: them in practice, but at the same time, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to I don't want to really overstep my balance
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Speaker 1: a little bit right now, you know with them, and
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Speaker 1: and uh, at the same time, when I do that,
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Speaker 1: I want to see the turn you know, back, you know,
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Speaker 1: towards towards what we're doing. And and That's what I've seen.
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Speaker 1: And so the more the more that we continue to
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Speaker 1: have that that that two way you know, communication and dialogue,
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Speaker 1: I can continue to push a little bit harder. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the off season, we you know, we
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Speaker 1: go a little bit easier. But I think it happens
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Speaker 1: more in training camp when the pads come on and
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Speaker 1: and it gets a little warmer outside and and we
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Speaker 1: can we can really challenge them a little bit more. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, step by step, understand that relationship has to
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Speaker 1: grow at some point. And once that relationship grows, then
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Speaker 1: you can push the team a little bit further. He's
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Speaker 1: been through it before as a player. He gets that
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Speaker 1: whole push and pull that goes on between UM coaches
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Speaker 1: and players. And in the way this thing has really started.
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Speaker 1: Up here, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on tint XL a
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Speaker 1: M and Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick with you,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Log Human out this week. Coming up, Christian Kirk,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars wide receiver, and then John Oser coming up at
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. Let's here's some more from
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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson. Last week, Trevor Lawrence spoke and
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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about the pace of the defense
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Speaker 1: after the first O t A practice. There were a
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Speaker 1: few plays in the eleven on eleven that we saw
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Speaker 1: in that open practice and in O t A number
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Speaker 1: one where defensive linemen are getting free and rushing the
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Speaker 1: quarterback and he's having a hustle a couple throws out
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Speaker 1: of there. Well, this week Peterson asked about the pace
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Speaker 1: of defense. Is there really a limit to it? Yes,
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Speaker 1: we know there's no contact officially, but is there a
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Speaker 1: rule on the or a Jaguars rule of sorts against
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Speaker 1: um maybe going a little too hard in practice. And
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Speaker 1: here's what Peterson said. Listen, it's full speed, you know,
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Speaker 1: full speed drills, and again, because you're not in pads,
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Speaker 1: it's really hard for the offense and defensive lines to
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Speaker 1: really you know, kind of control the pace of place
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Speaker 1: sometimes and and you know it's just it's hard, it's
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Speaker 1: really hard. But at the same time, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: it's sort of it's sort of the fun of it,
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Speaker 1: you know, the competition of it, and and really to
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Speaker 1: see the competitive juices flowing a little bit out there
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Speaker 1: on the practice field and you know, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously the quarterback feels it when when the pocket you know,
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Speaker 1: is collapsed a little bit. But again, because we're not
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Speaker 1: in pads, it's really hard to to anchor and you know,
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Speaker 1: grab a hold of something you know, I guess like
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Speaker 1: a shoulder pad to to stop a rushing line. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so it's tough to evaluate. Especially in the trenches this
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Speaker 1: time of year, you'll get a little bit of work
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Speaker 1: and they actually have flipped at least in the practice
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Speaker 1: we saw this week on Tuesday, some of the positions
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line from drill to drill. There was
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Speaker 1: a walker little working at left tackle and then over
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Speaker 1: at right tackle and the Juwan Taylor was getting some
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Speaker 1: left tackle reps also. Just at least put him out
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Speaker 1: there in a scenario or two and just see what
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Speaker 1: you have Cam Robinson was not available on two day
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Speaker 1: and there was a report that he is back in
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Speaker 1: the building or was back on the building on Wednesday
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Speaker 1: and maybe the rest of the weeks. That's good news
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Speaker 1: moving ahead, and maybe next week we'll see a little
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson in the building after he signed that big
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Speaker 1: contract a little earlier this offseason. Another position group of
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Speaker 1: note for the Jaguars, and it's been something this organization
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Speaker 1: has been trying to deal with really since Marcedes Lewis left,
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Speaker 1: and that's the tight end position, and they've thrown money
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Speaker 1: at a bunch of different guys over the years. Of course,
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Speaker 1: we know that Julius Thomas that didn't work out, Austin
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Speaker 1: Seferi and Jenkins Nope, Tyler Eiffort had a moment, but
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Speaker 1: not really. Um. Meanwhile, Marcedes Lewis, by the way, is
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Speaker 1: still playing for the Green Bay Packers, and uh, you
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Speaker 1: know it's going to take him a few years, but
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Speaker 1: if he hung around a couple three more years, he'll
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Speaker 1: be close to the most all time games played by
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Speaker 1: a tight end in league history. It's Jason Witten at
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Speaker 1: two seventy one, Mercedes at two thirty four. He's a packer.
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Speaker 1: He's not a jag Har, but he was a long
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Speaker 1: time Jaguar. They've been trying to figure it out since then,
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Speaker 1: but now they've made some changes to that. Of course
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Speaker 1: this year, Evan Ingram comes in this year and we'll
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Speaker 1: hear from John Osan coming up. I think he caught
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Speaker 1: up with Evan Ingram earlier this week, who came in
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Speaker 1: in free agency and was a former first round pick.
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Speaker 1: And we'll see what he can do in this offense.
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Speaker 1: And you know the feeling just talking to guys like
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and some and Jeff Lockman who's seen him
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Speaker 1: in practice. It's at least a time or two. The
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Speaker 1: early field is that it's not just a true online
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Speaker 1: tight end. I mean he's gonna be out there wide
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Speaker 1: and making plays on the outside. That's the idea behind it.
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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold is the same way he had moments of
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Speaker 1: that last season and is healthy now and he's out
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Speaker 1: on the practice field and that Luke Farrell was a
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Speaker 1: draft pick last year. Chris man Hurts is the lead
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Speaker 1: blocking option there. That was the idea going into last
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Speaker 1: season and actually caught the first ever touchdown pass from
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence last season. Trivia answer a little later down
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Speaker 1: the line in his career. But there's some other tight
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Speaker 1: ends on the roster right now that our project idea
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Speaker 1: type players. A guy like Nas Bohannon who came in
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Speaker 1: and the rookie minicamp as a tryout player, and well
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Speaker 1: he's he played basketball at Clemson to wrap up his
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Speaker 1: career and has not played football, but at least early
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Speaker 1: looks the part, moves the right way, can make some
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Speaker 1: plays in this o t a period. That's a project
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Speaker 1: moving ahead. Other guys on the roster, great Grayson Gunner
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Speaker 1: a rookie, and Garrett Prince also a rookie. So a
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Speaker 1: deeper room right now. And Doug Peterson asked about the
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Speaker 1: tight ends earlier this week. A lot of bodies in there, um,
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Speaker 1: which is exciting. You know, I think it's uh, I
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Speaker 1: think it's a strong part of our team right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a really good group, veteran group, you know,
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Speaker 1: leadership in there with with Dan and Chris and and
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Speaker 1: even with Evan now you know, adding there and really
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Speaker 1: like we're who is and how he's progressed this offseason
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Speaker 1: and and then the young guys are still learning, you know,
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Speaker 1: they've only been with us a couple of weeks now,
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Speaker 1: but um, I'm encouraged by that group, you know, and
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Speaker 1: and really looking forward again too. I think training camp
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Speaker 1: when when the pads come on and watching them and
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Speaker 1: their their physicality and blocking and and um, you know
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Speaker 1: how how well they perform, and think about the tight
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Speaker 1: ends and what the importance of that position was for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles back in their championship run in and you'll
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Speaker 1: get an idea of what that means for Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: and Press Taylor in this offensive group going into the campaign.
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Speaker 1: At least that's the hope a tied end. You mix
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Speaker 1: those guys in with wide receivers like Christian kirk whool
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Speaker 1: here from coming up and a veteran receiver like Marvin
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Speaker 1: Jones who has a long streak of games with a reception,
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Speaker 1: and you know, younger guys on this roster they feel
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Speaker 1: like can be an impact group in this passing game
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Speaker 1: than an improved quarterback on top of all that, that
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Speaker 1: could be a nice combination for this Jaguars offense. That's
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Speaker 1: the idea, at least moving into this season. We've got
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Speaker 1: putting ahead on the show a little later, we'll hear
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Speaker 1: from John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior writer that's at
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour and also coming up in
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Speaker 1: a moment, Christian kirk Jaguars wide receiver, the free agent
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Speaker 1: signing from the Arizona Cardinals. The Jaguars are future focused
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Speaker 1: and ready for a new look in join us to
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Speaker 1: the bank this season as head coach Doug Peterson and
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Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence lead the charge through a great home schedule.
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Speaker 1: The games in Jacksonville this year preseason, the Browns and
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Speaker 1: the Steelers are coming in and then in this order
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville the home games the Colts, the Texans, the Giants, Raiders, Ravens, Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: and the Titans. Tickets available Jaguars dot Com Slash tickets
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Speaker 1: Wide Receiver Christian Kirkins Studio. And we return. It's Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on Tintin, x L, a M and Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com plus the Jaguars social media channels Twitter, Facebook
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Speaker 1: and YouTube. A busy schedule at Daily's Place coming up Saturday,
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Speaker 1: June four, The Jacksonville Taco and Margarita Festival. The Doomy
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Speaker 1: Brothers June five, two nights of the Dave Matthews Band
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Speaker 1: The Black Crows much more ahead this summer. Tickets if
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Speaker 1: they're available at Daily's Place dot com wide receiver Christian Kirk.
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna go to any of these shows? A concert? Guy?
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Speaker 1: What's up? How are you? I'm great? Thanks for the time.
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Speaker 1: I'll see. I was just looking at the at the schedule.
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Speaker 1: I'll see if I can I can make one of those.
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Speaker 1: It looks fun. It's a great schedule, and that it's
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Speaker 1: only the beginning. I mean it's all June, July, August,
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Speaker 1: going into the season, which you may not have time
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Speaker 1: during the season. But thanks for the time. Welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It's our first opportunity, I think to sit down together.
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Speaker 1: And how are you feeling so far? O? T S
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Speaker 1: are here? Week two? What's up? It's great? You know,
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Speaker 1: like you said, it's week two O. T A S.
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Speaker 1: And I was just talking about it a little bit earlier.
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Speaker 1: Or it's it's hard not to to get into that
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Speaker 1: that groove and and feel like, oh I gotta be ready,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and be ready to play like we
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Speaker 1: have a game on Sunday, and just the competitive juices
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Speaker 1: are flowing and we're going against the defense, and just
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Speaker 1: the important thing right now is just working through all
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Speaker 1: the kinks. These are the times to make mistakes and uh,
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Speaker 1: now that we're learning a new system and whatnot, you know,
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Speaker 1: we're just trying to learn all the nuances and you know,
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Speaker 1: get ready for a training camp. I'm curious about that
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Speaker 1: process of learning a new offense. We talked about the
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks part of it all the time. He's got so
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Speaker 1: many things to worry about line play, You guys on
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Speaker 1: the outside, running back, the running get everything. But from
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver's perspective, how friendly is this offense for
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Speaker 1: a guy like you? And how difficult is it to
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Speaker 1: to learn all the nuances of it? Yeah, it's very
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Speaker 1: you know friendly for a receiver and you know, all
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Speaker 1: of us as weapons because it allows us to be
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Speaker 1: all interchangeable, and you know, it challenges you to know
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Speaker 1: every position on the field. And the more you know,
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Speaker 1: the more opportunities you get to be in different to
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Speaker 1: go out and make plays. And uh, Coach Peterson and
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Speaker 1: you know Press have done a great job of you know,
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Speaker 1: making this offense, Uh, you know, fairly easy to learn,
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Speaker 1: and the transition has been you know, very fairly simple.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we get a lot of time during
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Speaker 1: O t A s you know, in the classroom man
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Speaker 1: on the field, So uh, they don't just throw it
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Speaker 1: all at you and tell you to learn it. Uh.
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Speaker 1: They do a good job facilitating, you know, being able
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Speaker 1: to to get through and get some reps and and
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Speaker 1: just learning all the things that they want to accomplish.
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Speaker 1: When you hear Trevor Lawrence talking through the offense and
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Speaker 1: those different things you guys install over time, I'm guessing
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Speaker 1: it comes out pretty clear from him that he knows
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Speaker 1: what's up on this offense. Yeah, and you know he
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Speaker 1: does a great job in meetings, um, you know kind
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Speaker 1: of adding you know what he's thinking on a certain
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Speaker 1: play or you know what he's expecting in certain expectations,
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Speaker 1: you know, for us, and it keeps that open line
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Speaker 1: of you know, communication and everything's transparent. So uh, you
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Speaker 1: know he's done a great job in that aspect. Christian
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Speaker 1: Kirk is with US Jaguars wide Receiver here on Jaguar's
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. You know there's a lot of new faces
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Speaker 1: around here. You're one of them. Here's a Jones coming in,
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Speaker 1: got a couple of Vets in that room, and Marvin
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Speaker 1: Jones has been in the league forever. It feels like, um,
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Speaker 1: how difficult is it or is it at all to
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Speaker 1: to get that camaraderie? Is that overplayed? Is that overhyped
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Speaker 1: sometimes that oh they gotta get time together and figure
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Speaker 1: out the room or is that a real thing for
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Speaker 1: wide receivers. I would say it's like the first week. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like going to a new school,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially for me. You know, you're you're learning
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Speaker 1: all your classmates and you know who's who, and you
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Speaker 1: know the different personalities. But you know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: after that first week, I mean you settle in and
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Speaker 1: you know, we're all guys out there playing football and
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Speaker 1: having fun and um, you know, just our room in general,
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Speaker 1: you know, we have so many good guys like you
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Speaker 1: mentioned Za, you have Marv. You know who's the vet
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Speaker 1: and you know it's played a lot of ball and
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Speaker 1: it's always good to have a guy like that in
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Speaker 1: the room and you know, still compete at a high level.
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Speaker 1: And then you have Lavisca and La Kwan, you know,
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Speaker 1: and some younger guys that you know, it's it's a
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Speaker 1: good dynamic that we have and you know, we have
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun with it. And you know, Coach
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Speaker 1: Jackson has done a great job just pushing us every day.
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Speaker 1: What does coach Jackson do, especially you know, the first
18:05
Speaker 1: time with him, So what what stands about out about him? Honestly,
18:09
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to meeting yet, So what
18:12
Speaker 1: stands out about his his coaching? Yeah, I mean he
18:15
Speaker 1: brings energy every single day. And I think the big
18:17
Speaker 1: thing for us is, you know, we have so much
18:19
Speaker 1: talent in our room. We have to hold ourselves to
18:21
Speaker 1: a high standard and there's a lot of expectation from
18:24
Speaker 1: us and we know that and and that's our job
18:27
Speaker 1: to deliver. And so anytime anything is not up to
18:31
Speaker 1: our standard, uh, they're gonna, you know, be held accountable
18:34
Speaker 1: and uh, you know we like that, and uh, you know,
18:36
Speaker 1: we just want to go out and be the best
18:38
Speaker 1: group on the field every single Sunday and that's what
18:40
Speaker 1: we're working towards. Now. Christian Kirk is with us. It
18:43
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, we're just kind of meeting for
18:45
Speaker 1: the first time. But you've settled in a little bit here,
18:48
Speaker 1: right you've you're you're in the in the element now.
18:51
Speaker 1: But how much of a whirlwind was this offseason leading
18:55
Speaker 1: into free agency and everything that happened, and all of
18:58
Speaker 1: a sudden you're at a press con, for instance, this
19:00
Speaker 1: contract coming in. Uh, it seems like that was just boy,
19:05
Speaker 1: let me get through this and get back to football.
19:07
Speaker 1: How wild was this offseason? It was nuts, you know,
19:10
Speaker 1: looking back at it, Um, there's so many unknowns and
19:15
Speaker 1: you have expectations and then your expectations are flipped upside
19:19
Speaker 1: down and you because everybody's process is different. You know,
19:22
Speaker 1: the guys that have been through a free agency and
19:24
Speaker 1: you know, I had to talk to a couple of
19:26
Speaker 1: guys that have been through it, and uh, they're like,
19:28
Speaker 1: it always ends up the opposite of what you think.
19:30
Speaker 1: And you know, that's what it was for me. You know,
19:33
Speaker 1: I had known that about Jacksonville. Obviously he had came
19:37
Speaker 1: here and played last year. But uh, obviously had no
19:40
Speaker 1: clue where I was gonna end up. And you know,
19:43
Speaker 1: after you know, got the call, and then the next
19:46
Speaker 1: thing I know, I'm on a fly. I land here
19:47
Speaker 1: at two am. I'm up at five am for over
19:50
Speaker 1: here in the suit my suits you know, halfway wrinkled,
19:53
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to pull it all together. You know,
19:55
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of a whirlwind. But I
19:57
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier, you know, being here, Christian Kurr, because
20:00
Speaker 1: with us a Jaguars Happy Hour on tin t X
20:02
Speaker 1: l a M and Jaguars dot Com. And alright, let's
20:05
Speaker 1: go back a little bit now. I mean, you grew
20:06
Speaker 1: up in Arizona, right Scott's Saguaro High School, did a
20:12
Speaker 1: little research here, David Spade went to school there, the comedian,
20:16
Speaker 1: A handful of NFL guys. Who else in the end,
20:18
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys had some really good football teams
20:20
Speaker 1: with Saguaro. So who other guys are anybody else in
20:23
Speaker 1: the league right now? Yeah? You know, we we have
20:26
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy who was a teammate of mine in Arizona
20:29
Speaker 1: as well. Me and Byron played a year together at Sorrow,
20:32
Speaker 1: and then Dj Foster as well. Dj was a senior
20:35
Speaker 1: when I was a freshman. Um, but we've had you know,
20:38
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, and you know a couple of other guys
20:40
Speaker 1: you know go to the NFL. But um, you know,
20:42
Speaker 1: coach Mons has been coaching me since I was about
20:46
Speaker 1: I would say seven or eight years old, and he's
20:48
Speaker 1: the head coach over there now and they just won
20:50
Speaker 1: the Open division, you know, state championship. That that means
20:53
Speaker 1: you get the crown in Arizona. And I couldn't be
20:55
Speaker 1: more proud than than them. But um, you know, that
20:57
Speaker 1: was definitely some of the highlight of years of my career.
21:01
Speaker 1: You guys want a lot of state titles, right, don't
21:04
Speaker 1: call me sir, my bad, my bad. We won, We
21:08
Speaker 1: won three. We went three while I was there. Yeah,
21:12
Speaker 1: only three, only three? You missed one. Yeah, that's okay.
21:15
Speaker 1: It was sophomore. We're in a little bit of a
21:17
Speaker 1: rebuild where young I'm curious to you go from Arizona
21:20
Speaker 1: to you go on the recruiting trail. I'm sure at
21:23
Speaker 1: some point and all of a sudden end up at
21:25
Speaker 1: A and M. That was coach someone's time there were
21:28
Speaker 1: you like being courted. That was probably when Manziello was
21:31
Speaker 1: still quarterbacking at A and M. Right, was that that
21:34
Speaker 1: time period Johnny had left I want to say two years,
21:37
Speaker 1: So two years I was on the trail before you came. So,
21:42
Speaker 1: so Kenny Hill was a quarterback the year before I
21:45
Speaker 1: got there. So um My, one of my best friends
21:48
Speaker 1: from Arizona, Kyle Island, who now plays for the Houston Texans.
21:52
Speaker 1: He was quarterback at Texas A and M and Kyler Murray.
21:55
Speaker 1: Me and Kyler Murray were in the same class. Uh,
21:57
Speaker 1: so I had a lot of ties there and I
22:00
Speaker 1: wanted to play in the SEC, had always wanted to.
22:02
Speaker 1: And uh, coach someone had brought that spread offense and
22:05
Speaker 1: that dynamic offense to the SEC and had the opportunity
22:09
Speaker 1: to play early as a freshman. So it was a
22:11
Speaker 1: no brainer for me. Freshman of the Year in the
22:13
Speaker 1: SEC back in that mentioned Kyler Murray, right, then all
22:17
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get to play with him in Arizona.
22:21
Speaker 1: That kind of a quarterback, that kind of a dynamic
22:24
Speaker 1: player who all of a sudden Kentucket and run for
22:27
Speaker 1: fifty yards. How challenging is that? How rewarding is that
22:31
Speaker 1: for an offense to you can go both ways when
22:33
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Kyler Murray's status. Yeah, you
22:36
Speaker 1: know he was. He was always dynamic and it was
22:39
Speaker 1: just another um facet of our offense that you know,
22:42
Speaker 1: you had to deal with. And uh, that's what makes
22:45
Speaker 1: them special. He does things like that makes plays with
22:47
Speaker 1: his legs and with his arm as well, and all
22:49
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're running down the field. Wait a minute,
22:50
Speaker 1: you're running by me. What's happening right? Right? Yeah, No,
22:54
Speaker 1: there's there's there's plenty of times where that happened. Christian
22:57
Speaker 1: kirk Is with US Jaguars wide receiver. A couple more
22:59
Speaker 1: minut us with you here. Um so a few weeks
23:03
Speaker 1: into this offseason program, now with two weeks left, well,
23:06
Speaker 1: this week, next week's the final cotis, then there's the
23:09
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp after that, all of a sudden, us
23:12
Speaker 1: to the off season. You've had all this time in
23:15
Speaker 1: the offense, as you said, step by step getting this
23:17
Speaker 1: thing going. Well, what's the field? Can can this be
23:21
Speaker 1: a unit that turns it in one year? It's possible
23:24
Speaker 1: with the NFL to do that. But do you have
23:27
Speaker 1: some of those pieces that foundation in place? You feel
23:29
Speaker 1: like right now, I definitely think we had the pieces
23:32
Speaker 1: and we're we're still laying the foundation. Um. I think
23:35
Speaker 1: some of those questions will be answered a little bit
23:37
Speaker 1: more and when we get into training camp and we
23:39
Speaker 1: want answers now. We don't want to wait to training Hey,
23:42
Speaker 1: I want all the answers now. Too. I I want
23:44
Speaker 1: to know how many games we're gonna win and you know,
23:46
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs as well. But uh, like I said,
23:49
Speaker 1: this is what this process is. But um, I have been,
23:52
Speaker 1: you know, fairly impressed with how we've been able to
23:54
Speaker 1: progress every single day, you know, offensively and defensively. And um,
23:58
Speaker 1: like I said, just the energy in the culture around
24:01
Speaker 1: this this building, and you could tell there's just there's
24:03
Speaker 1: a sense of excitement and you know I have it
24:05
Speaker 1: as well, and you know we're gonna we're shooting, you know,
24:08
Speaker 1: for the for the for the sky's the limit. Starts
24:10
Speaker 1: with Doug, Right, Doug Peterson in the way he kind
24:12
Speaker 1: of walks around every day and he's been there and
24:15
Speaker 1: done that as a player. As a coach, he's want
24:17
Speaker 1: to ring. He doesn't flash it in your face and
24:19
Speaker 1: everybody just goes to work. Like I mean, that's this
24:23
Speaker 1: game is confidence and uh you know, having that mentality that,
24:27
Speaker 1: uh you know, when you step on the field, you
24:29
Speaker 1: know you're you're the best team that day, and uh
24:31
Speaker 1: you know, especially individually too. So he definitely brings that
24:34
Speaker 1: swagger in that confidence and it rubs off on all
24:37
Speaker 1: of us. All Right, final thought here, with the off
24:39
Speaker 1: season coming up, what are some of your plans are
24:41
Speaker 1: You're gonna get away, do you get to work, You're
24:43
Speaker 1: gonna do some work with a quarterback? How does that
24:45
Speaker 1: work in your off season coming up? Yeah, I'm definitely
24:47
Speaker 1: gonna spend some time with Trevor and Um, you know,
24:49
Speaker 1: making sure we're we're still you know, keeping connected, you know,
24:52
Speaker 1: going into training camp, and I'm gonna head back to
24:55
Speaker 1: Arizona and pack up the rest of my stuff and
24:57
Speaker 1: bring it on out here to Jacksonville and get ready
25:00
Speaker 1: for an incredible season. You got all the stuff out there,
25:03
Speaker 1: but the golf clubs made it here apparently right, both sets,
25:06
Speaker 1: the golf clubs made it up. Yeah, yeah, both sets
25:08
Speaker 1: made it out here. I don't travel without my golf clubs.
25:11
Speaker 1: That's a good, good way to live life. So who's
25:14
Speaker 1: the best golfer on the team? At least you've played
25:16
Speaker 1: with so far? Oh, final talk. I mean, I haven't
25:19
Speaker 1: played with a ton of guys. I'm sure the specialists
25:22
Speaker 1: are always good. So sure of you know, Logan is
25:26
Speaker 1: probably really good or you know, I I have Honestly,
25:30
Speaker 1: it's it's usually me and Trevor that play UM and
25:34
Speaker 1: I heard CJ's pretty good as well. You know, some
25:37
Speaker 1: of the QBS backup quarterbacks a lot of times are
25:39
Speaker 1: pretty good too. Yeah, so how's the starting quarterback. He's
25:43
Speaker 1: getting there, he's getting there, but he's not there. I mean,
25:46
Speaker 1: are any of us there? And we're never always Yeah.
25:49
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're an amateur golfer, are you are
25:51
Speaker 1: you even there? So where are you going? It was
25:53
Speaker 1: the question that that is I think we all I
25:55
Speaker 1: want to act like we can make it on tour
25:57
Speaker 1: at some point, but that's never gonna happen. So I
26:00
Speaker 1: don't think we're ever gonna You're already talking yourself out
26:02
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, you're already beat. Hope. Hopefully I
26:05
Speaker 1: play football long enough to where that that's not even
26:07
Speaker 1: a venture for me. Excellent point. Hey, Christen, thanks for
26:11
Speaker 1: the time. Man, it's great to see you. I'm actually
26:13
Speaker 1: to have you as part of the Jaguars. We're back
26:15
Speaker 1: in a moment, we're just getting started. It's Jaguars Happy
26:18
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. What you want to
26:26
Speaker 1: see from elite quarterbacks. One, when they're throwing, the ball
26:29
Speaker 1: doesn't hit the ground. The ball doesn't hit the ground
26:30
Speaker 1: because there's a level of execution and consistency between thrower
26:33
Speaker 1: and catcher. It's easy, ball doesn't hit the ground. It
26:37
Speaker 1: looks like they're in rhythm and scenk and I saw
26:40
Speaker 1: that today. I saw what I would deem to be
26:42
Speaker 1: a high level set of execution up practices and what
26:46
Speaker 1: they're being asked to do from Trevor. I want to
26:48
Speaker 1: see the ball in the strike zone consistently. When we
26:50
Speaker 1: talk about the strike zone, the strike zone is torso
26:53
Speaker 1: ball ways to hire inside the window. The receivers are
26:56
Speaker 1: not having to work a lot to make catches, and
26:59
Speaker 1: we're seeing that over Lawrence is very accurate. We're seeing
27:01
Speaker 1: the ball come out with plenty of pace and those things.
27:04
Speaker 1: And then the final part of it is when you
27:06
Speaker 1: transition from doing individual to group stuff to then compete
27:10
Speaker 1: against the team. Does Trevor know where to go with
27:13
Speaker 1: the ball and doesn't know how to do it in
27:15
Speaker 1: assigning fashion? I think he saw that even when they
27:17
Speaker 1: ramped up in seven or seven and nine or seven
27:19
Speaker 1: things against the defense, he looked like he had a
27:22
Speaker 1: pretty clear idea where to go. That is Bucky Brooks
27:26
Speaker 1: from the Huddle Up podcast earlier this week. Um Jaguars
27:29
Speaker 1: dot Com. Imagine this. It's on the podcast link on
27:34
Speaker 1: the team website or the official Jaguars podcast network. Welcome back,
27:38
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our j P. Shadrick with you today
27:41
Speaker 1: and Jeff Flagerman will be back, will be back with
27:45
Speaker 1: us next week. John Osier is with us now Jaguars
27:48
Speaker 1: dot Com Senior writer. He's also a part of the
27:51
Speaker 1: Huddle Up podcast and heard it replacement for Jeff Lockerman.
27:56
Speaker 1: I tell you that, well, I'm We're glad you're here though,
27:58
Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time for ship. Cheers to you,
28:02
Speaker 1: and um, there's plenty to discuss this week. O T
28:04
Speaker 1: a second week, you know, and then after the end
28:08
Speaker 1: of this week there'll be six o T s down,
28:10
Speaker 1: four officially left to go next week. Who knows about
28:13
Speaker 1: the tenth win. A lot of times that's a either
28:15
Speaker 1: a canceled or a team building or a one of
28:18
Speaker 1: those days. But hey, that that comment there from Bucky
28:23
Speaker 1: about just the cleanliness of the offense, right, that's that's
28:27
Speaker 1: kind of what you're looking for your You don't want
28:30
Speaker 1: the ball over the ground all over the place. And
28:33
Speaker 1: I think you and I were kind of talking on
28:35
Speaker 1: the practice field the other day on Tuesday about this.
28:39
Speaker 1: It's really about sixteen. That's really what this thing boils
28:42
Speaker 1: down to. It's about him and how he's performing and
28:45
Speaker 1: feeling and the rest is great. But you don't have
28:49
Speaker 1: to get a trigger in the football. Yeah, I mean,
28:52
Speaker 1: you know, oversimplify it what you want right now. With Trevor,
28:55
Speaker 1: they've chosen. I mean, he's a guy number one overall.
28:59
Speaker 1: You choose he's the guy, and you better build everything
29:02
Speaker 1: around him to succeed. And then you want to get
29:06
Speaker 1: to a point where your roster is you know, similar,
29:11
Speaker 1: better worse, been in the same range as other rosters,
29:14
Speaker 1: and then that guy elevates you. Maybe that's not fair
29:17
Speaker 1: to every game, but over the course of time, if
29:21
Speaker 1: you're equal and you've got that guy behind center, then
29:23
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, games should start going your way
29:25
Speaker 1: and you get to nine wins, ten wins, eleven wins. Um.
29:28
Speaker 1: You know. So, because he was number one overall pick,
29:32
Speaker 1: it's very much built around him. And then after five
29:35
Speaker 1: years and that contract goes up, he better be able
29:38
Speaker 1: to elevate everybody. Uh, I can't rightfully tell you JP
29:44
Speaker 1: based on a summertime, no pad practice. If he's elevating people. Yet,
29:50
Speaker 1: but as Buckey alluded to, the ball looks right coming
29:56
Speaker 1: out of his hand. It is going in the proper
29:59
Speaker 1: strikes own. You don't have a lot of guys reaching
30:02
Speaker 1: for it in seven on seven where it's horrible passes
30:06
Speaker 1: and you wonder what in the world this guy is doing.
30:08
Speaker 1: I mean that could hurt players too, if they're like
30:10
Speaker 1: reaching weird places and tweaks and this and that, and
30:13
Speaker 1: it overall just hurts confidence efficiency. Right now, this time
30:18
Speaker 1: of year, for a quarterback, it's supposed to be easy
30:20
Speaker 1: a lot with with you know, especially in non seven
30:27
Speaker 1: on seven, nine eleven. He looks comfortable. He looks, you know,
30:31
Speaker 1: like he's not clouded with his head, he's not thinking
30:34
Speaker 1: about other things. He looks like he's supposed to look,
30:37
Speaker 1: which you know, after nine ten years of talking this
30:40
Speaker 1: time of year, JP, you know, I always say at
30:44
Speaker 1: this point, you can't prove anything about how you're going
30:47
Speaker 1: to do next season, but you can look as good
30:51
Speaker 1: as you can possibly look. And right now, Trevor Lawrence
30:54
Speaker 1: in the offense, you know, to me, they look the
30:57
Speaker 1: part so far. I don't know what that means when
30:59
Speaker 1: not the had to go on but I'd rather be
31:01
Speaker 1: saying that than oh, we just heard from Christian Kirk
31:05
Speaker 1: a moment ago Jaguar's wide receivers in studio here and
31:09
Speaker 1: our first real chance to sit down with him. Um
31:13
Speaker 1: since he since really the press conference, I think and
31:16
Speaker 1: uh kind of getting his head and it felt like
31:18
Speaker 1: that press conference just wasn't his comfort zone. Like every
31:21
Speaker 1: everything's going on, big contract everything. There was some outside
31:26
Speaker 1: criticism all that, but just hearing his tone in the
31:30
Speaker 1: last twenty minutes or so, he's locked in now and
31:35
Speaker 1: it feels like he's in his element where he's I
31:39
Speaker 1: don't know if he's running the wide receiver room per se.
31:42
Speaker 1: There are some veteran guys in there, but he might
31:45
Speaker 1: have that type of personality where he just does his
31:47
Speaker 1: business and kind of people follow the way he goes
31:50
Speaker 1: about it. And his skill set, obviously is something they
31:53
Speaker 1: were searching out in free agency. His ability to to
31:57
Speaker 1: learn and play different positions on the offense. And I
32:00
Speaker 1: don't think that's just his role. I think that's a
32:03
Speaker 1: lot of these receiver's roles as you've got to learn
32:06
Speaker 1: these different spots, so play callers like Doug Peterson, the
32:09
Speaker 1: O C and press Taylor can move you around and
32:12
Speaker 1: match you up in different situations, and that's that's going
32:15
Speaker 1: to be perfect. I think for Christian Kirk, everything you
32:17
Speaker 1: hear about him is that he's a guy you want
32:19
Speaker 1: your wide receiver room. He approaches everything the right way.
32:23
Speaker 1: He's a pro if you will. Uh. That feels like
32:27
Speaker 1: what they were going after in free agency and the draft.
32:30
Speaker 1: He seems to define that. You know, at at five
32:33
Speaker 1: eleven six ft, I can't sit here and rightfully say
32:36
Speaker 1: that he's ever going to be a quote true X
32:39
Speaker 1: outside I mean to WYD wide receiver guy that's going
32:44
Speaker 1: to dominate opponents physically. But it does very much seem
32:51
Speaker 1: like if their goal was to upgrade the wide receiver
32:55
Speaker 1: position overall, create more talent, more ability to strain defenses,
33:01
Speaker 1: a guy who can play everything that you want him
33:06
Speaker 1: to play for you offensively at that receiver position. It
33:11
Speaker 1: seems like they've got that guy. Uh. I've had a
33:15
Speaker 1: lot of conversations about Christian Kirk with Pete Priscoe, who
33:18
Speaker 1: covers the NFL Here covers the NFL and CBS Sports.
33:21
Speaker 1: He's very tight with Sean Jefferson, who coach Christian Kirk.
33:26
Speaker 1: Pete keeps telling me John Sean Jefferson believed really highly
33:31
Speaker 1: in this guy, says he controlled the room in Arizona
33:35
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins Larry Fitzgerald as an influence. Uh. That
33:41
Speaker 1: seems real to me, you know, and it seems to
33:44
Speaker 1: line up. I talked I talked with Christian a day
33:48
Speaker 1: or two ago. He's impressive in how he approaches things.
33:52
Speaker 1: He's impressive and seems very professional. It seems like he's
33:56
Speaker 1: going to fit into this. You know, I can never
34:00
Speaker 1: when you first bring a guy in how good they're
34:02
Speaker 1: going to be. You can get a bad feeling about
34:04
Speaker 1: a guy. Though. You don't have that feeling about Christian Chirk.
34:08
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, you feeling no matter what happens, he's going
34:11
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to contribute and make this
34:14
Speaker 1: room better. I don't know how you look up to
34:17
Speaker 1: a contract and free hd JP. I mean, so throwing
34:21
Speaker 1: that out the window. What they wanted to do with
34:24
Speaker 1: free agency is raise and get and get this thing better.
34:28
Speaker 1: It seems like Christian Kirk did that eighteen million dollars better.
34:32
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that, but I don't
34:35
Speaker 1: think they care about that that much in terms of
34:37
Speaker 1: how do you do that. I believe they're better with
34:41
Speaker 1: this kid on the team. You get a base level
34:43
Speaker 1: of player level better in this team and that helps that.
34:46
Speaker 1: I mean, you just gotta have better players. Yeah, and
34:48
Speaker 1: it cost money. It certainly seems like he fits that
34:52
Speaker 1: bill to me. John Osan's with US Jaguars dot Com
34:55
Speaker 1: senior writer. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on tint xl a
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Speaker 1: M and Jaguars dot Com and the Jaguars social media
35:01
Speaker 1: channels Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Oh you go from one
35:05
Speaker 1: pass catcher to another. That you caught up earlier this
35:09
Speaker 1: week with John and Evan Ingram. Another free agency edition
35:13
Speaker 1: that Jaguar spent some money, I think the most in
35:15
Speaker 1: free agency this year around the National Football League. I
35:19
Speaker 1: think a total of three million dollars over the contracts
35:22
Speaker 1: were put out. That's that's a lot going out. A
35:25
Speaker 1: lot of that on offense, of course, Christian Kirk got
35:27
Speaker 1: the biggest bulk of that. Evan Ingram got a year's
35:31
Speaker 1: share of that though, and a former first round pick, uh,
35:35
Speaker 1: you know, and another guy who you can move around.
35:39
Speaker 1: He's not just a tied end off the right tackles,
35:41
Speaker 1: hit blocking. He's out there and they can catch us
35:44
Speaker 1: down the field wide, as we can see if you're
35:47
Speaker 1: watching on Jaguars dot Com. He he did some with
35:49
Speaker 1: New York with the Giants. That's the idea again here
35:52
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, I think, and again this time of year,
35:57
Speaker 1: you're trying to project and you're trying to put in
35:59
Speaker 1: perspective what in my all mean. I there's something about
36:03
Speaker 1: the Ingram signing to me that seems overlooked. It seems
36:07
Speaker 1: like there was so much focus on Christian Kirk and
36:11
Speaker 1: so much talk among fans and observes about what they
36:14
Speaker 1: didn't do. Um. I think the way Ingram plays, I
36:21
Speaker 1: don't know that there's going to be that much difference
36:25
Speaker 1: in a lot of plays and how he's used as
36:31
Speaker 1: it would be with a wide receiver. So there was
36:35
Speaker 1: a lot of anks on the families. Well, they didn't
36:37
Speaker 1: improve wide receiver enough. They didn't do this enough. You know,
36:41
Speaker 1: Ingram's a tight end, but conceptually, if what you were
36:45
Speaker 1: doing was trying to add elements around Trevor Lawrence, this
36:49
Speaker 1: was a guy who did that. And again we're not
36:52
Speaker 1: gonna try to give away too much with what they're
36:55
Speaker 1: trying to do scheme wise, because they're not gonna show
36:57
Speaker 1: us everything anyway. But this guy is moving around a
37:01
Speaker 1: lot in the offense. Uh, he is going to be
37:04
Speaker 1: a piece, And I can't imagine that there aren't a
37:08
Speaker 1: lot of plays where he plays a role much like
37:13
Speaker 1: that quote one wide receiver that everybody wanted in the
37:15
Speaker 1: off season. So, um, he might be the key of
37:19
Speaker 1: the free agent class and he might be the and
37:22
Speaker 1: Kirk's gotta be good, don't get me wrong. But the
37:25
Speaker 1: thing that pushes him over the top, thing that gives
37:26
Speaker 1: him that tool that maybe people thought they didn't go get,
37:30
Speaker 1: is Angram And and he's I'll tell you, I don't
37:33
Speaker 1: always say hey, go listen to the podcast. You know
37:38
Speaker 1: Ingram is really an interesting guy to talk to. He
37:40
Speaker 1: has a really good perspective on this. Um, you know,
37:46
Speaker 1: he knows this is a huge chancer and the one
37:49
Speaker 1: year deal is approved deal, one year, nine million dollar
37:52
Speaker 1: contractor yeah, he's I have a good feeling about this
37:58
Speaker 1: guy and his his ability to do what they're asking
38:01
Speaker 1: to do in this game. He certainly thinks this is
38:05
Speaker 1: going to be the year that pushes him into I
38:08
Speaker 1: don't know what elite means, but but pushes him into
38:11
Speaker 1: a place where he goes and makes a lot of money. Uh.
38:14
Speaker 1: He thinks it's gonna be a year where he breaks out.
38:17
Speaker 1: He loves Doug Peterson's offense. He's wanted to play for
38:20
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson tight end. We've been talking about it for
38:25
Speaker 1: how many years? J V. We talked about it earlier.
38:28
Speaker 1: I mean I listened to some guys Julius Thomas, Safarian Jenkins,
38:32
Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford. I mean, I've tried so many different ways
38:36
Speaker 1: to figure it out since Mercedes. It feels like this
38:39
Speaker 1: group with Ingram Arnold ah manherts the more of a
38:45
Speaker 1: block we can catch. It feels like Ingram and Arnold
38:51
Speaker 1: hye to say it, but might be the guys at
38:56
Speaker 1: this position that this team has been waiting for for
38:59
Speaker 1: so long. And I laugh because we've been saying it
39:02
Speaker 1: for so long that it'll fall on deaf ears. But
39:07
Speaker 1: boy do they look different in O T A S.
39:11
Speaker 1: Then that position has looked ever here. I'm excited to
39:16
Speaker 1: hear the podcast because I haven't had a chance to
39:18
Speaker 1: visit with Evan Ingram yet. We'll be on our Jaguars
39:20
Speaker 1: media chan on Yeah, on the website Jaguars dot Com.
39:23
Speaker 1: On the podcast where that you listen to your podcast. Yeah,
39:26
Speaker 1: wherever you download your and co back comment whatever you want.
39:30
Speaker 1: It's h we we love feedback. We we said if
39:34
Speaker 1: it's bad and then I don't love feed at least
39:36
Speaker 1: you know what it is. Criticism either way is constructive. No,
39:43
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not buying into all about praise. Okay,
39:46
Speaker 1: I love it. Hey, we'll take a time out. We'll
39:49
Speaker 1: come back. John. We're gonna go around the National Footballleague
39:51
Speaker 1: that you're sticking around with us. Sure, thanks not feedback.
39:57
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you. I really do around the
40:00
Speaker 1: league with John Osan when we come back and listen
40:02
Speaker 1: to his podcast. The ozone podcast on the official Jaguars
40:06
Speaker 1: podcast network is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network,
40:19
Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday, and they
40:23
Speaker 1: look outside on Jaguars dot Com and the Jaguars Social
40:28
Speaker 1: channels at the footprint of the Football Performance Center. Well
40:34
Speaker 1: earlier this week there was actual steel going up for
40:38
Speaker 1: the first time it's been concrete foundation. Some walls on
40:44
Speaker 1: the side are kind of there now being held up
40:47
Speaker 1: by props on the side, but they actually put some
40:50
Speaker 1: steel beams across a couple of those today earlier this week. Actually, um,
40:56
Speaker 1: so they're moving right along. It's hard work. I've been
40:59
Speaker 1: some time out there, lived some stee JP. I thought
41:01
Speaker 1: you looked stronger. Well, yeah, I mean it's in the morning.
41:05
Speaker 1: That's what I did. That kind of drive down I
41:08
Speaker 1: was that I was that's yeah. I was going to
41:10
Speaker 1: mention something. You you look like you've been in the
41:12
Speaker 1: weight room. Yeah, it's a task. It's a heavy lift,
41:16
Speaker 1: as they said, it certainly is. That's why you leave
41:19
Speaker 1: it with the professionals. And of course that is scheduled
41:22
Speaker 1: to open training camp of three. And you know, we
41:26
Speaker 1: we eat lunch here, um every day. Right, So after
41:30
Speaker 1: lunch I come I walked down the ramp outside and
41:33
Speaker 1: I just I stand out over the ramp overlooking this thing,
41:36
Speaker 1: just to see what's going on, right, and just think
41:39
Speaker 1: on it, and just think on it, you know, think
41:41
Speaker 1: through it. See what's next. I wonder what beam is next? Right, alright,
41:45
Speaker 1: wonder what concrete they have to pour next. But I
41:48
Speaker 1: stood out there a few weeks ago and watched them
41:49
Speaker 1: tear down the old cool Zone building. Talk him about
41:52
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. I was gone, and here comes the beam.
41:55
Speaker 1: The other day and um, I mean every day there's
41:59
Speaker 1: something new going. It's it's it's fascinating. So the footprints
42:02
Speaker 1: massive too, it's huge. It's it's been needed for a
42:06
Speaker 1: long time. Uh, it's it's tough to win free agents
42:17
Speaker 1: to maintain what you want in this league right now
42:22
Speaker 1: if your facilities are not at least on par as
42:25
Speaker 1: the league goes for it. That have to be the
42:26
Speaker 1: best every year. But you know, there is a changing
42:31
Speaker 1: face of the league and it does reflect Uh. Players
42:37
Speaker 1: love that kind of thing, as they should. It reflects
42:41
Speaker 1: the direction of the organization. And I think this will
42:44
Speaker 1: be a a a huge thing for player retention, image, etcetera.
42:50
Speaker 1: It's been needed for a while and it's gonna be
42:52
Speaker 1: cool to say. I mean, it's and then they've talked
42:54
Speaker 1: about this, Mark Lamping has talked about it in the
42:57
Speaker 1: public settings before the space inside the stadium was so,
43:03
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the original footprint and it's the smallest
43:06
Speaker 1: footprint in the NFL. And then you've got coaches and
43:08
Speaker 1: hallways and closets working, and the weight room spills out
43:12
Speaker 1: onto the concourse. I mean, that's the smallest in the league.
43:16
Speaker 1: The NFL um in was a different beast than it
43:23
Speaker 1: is now. You didn't have nearly as much marketing, you
43:27
Speaker 1: didn't have nearly as much forward facing. Our department didn't
43:33
Speaker 1: exist that it was, well, there was a broadcast department,
43:37
Speaker 1: but it was it was smaller only digital. Uh my
43:42
Speaker 1: job didn't exist, which would be arguments to be made now.
43:46
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I remember when I got to the
43:51
Speaker 1: Colts in two thousand one, which a few years after that.
43:54
Speaker 1: By the time I left there ten years later, that
43:58
Speaker 1: place had had to add on to it's building if
44:01
Speaker 1: I'm remembering right, at least once, perhaps twice. But they
44:05
Speaker 1: were off site. They were not inside their stadium, so
44:09
Speaker 1: there was room on their campus if you will to
44:11
Speaker 1: grow here. Remember there's no inside the building. You're inside
44:16
Speaker 1: the building. Um. So it's been very necessary, and you know,
44:24
Speaker 1: I would anticipate this place being built for growth not
44:27
Speaker 1: be an issue anymore. But it's been very necessary and
44:31
Speaker 1: it will be state of the art. It's been, you know,
44:33
Speaker 1: with something he's not updated for twenty seven years, it
44:36
Speaker 1: gets out of date. This new place will in no
44:39
Speaker 1: way be that. It's the first step in a line
44:42
Speaker 1: of things to come around and to the stadium. Of course,
44:46
Speaker 1: the Football Performance Center is number one to open the
44:50
Speaker 1: shipyards project four seasons. The office building over there is
44:54
Speaker 1: next on the docket, and I think they'll really start
44:56
Speaker 1: the summer to to make some true moves there. Um.
45:00
Speaker 1: And then the state of you in the future will
45:02
Speaker 1: will come up at some point down the line for
45:04
Speaker 1: the latest. Checkout first Downtown Jack's dot Com and you'll
45:08
Speaker 1: get the latest on the happenings around and with the
45:11
Speaker 1: stadium project and everything around the stadium too. And there's
45:14
Speaker 1: a lot, there's dust flying, there's roads closed, John, you
45:17
Speaker 1: feel it every day. I remember a few weeks ago
45:20
Speaker 1: you try to come in and you got twisted and
45:22
Speaker 1: turned around. I couldn't find your way, but they were
45:25
Speaker 1: gonna let me in. I didn't make it. And you know, um,
45:30
Speaker 1: people who watch and read these shows, note I was
45:34
Speaker 1: here ninety three when they got the team, and then
45:38
Speaker 1: here when it first came about. Uh. I'm glad forever,
45:46
Speaker 1: however much longer I have in this business. There is
45:49
Speaker 1: a point of pride. It would be really cool to
45:51
Speaker 1: see this place. Go up the performance center, to see
45:55
Speaker 1: the stadium renovator, which at some point it's going to
45:57
Speaker 1: be renovated, To see this environment down here. Uh, dramatically changed.
46:02
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how close the prototypes
46:05
Speaker 1: will eventually be to what actually is. But considering where
46:09
Speaker 1: it came from DP old MANU to dead, I can
46:14
Speaker 1: remember ninety nine four, I was coming to the University
46:17
Speaker 1: of Florida and yes, yes they were uh, and I
46:22
Speaker 1: didn't I was living in Middleburgh. I was living in
46:24
Speaker 1: sort of between Jacksonville and Games. Were working for the
46:26
Speaker 1: Florida Times Union, so I didn't drive into town that much.
46:29
Speaker 1: I remember one time driving across one of the bridges
46:32
Speaker 1: and looking over and seeing and and people who were
46:34
Speaker 1: in town in the nineties will remember this dynamic You
46:37
Speaker 1: drove through and the stadium was basically up on a jacket,
46:42
Speaker 1: looked like because everything else had been taken away and
46:45
Speaker 1: it was just one of these pieces of the stadium
46:47
Speaker 1: was up there. Um. And I remember going to the
46:50
Speaker 1: old Gator ball so so all that stuff to see
46:54
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be now, to see that it's going
46:56
Speaker 1: to be stable going forward and state of the yard
46:59
Speaker 1: as it should be. Uh, it's a cool feeling for
47:02
Speaker 1: this old sentimental type. Good for you, man, I might
47:04
Speaker 1: even bring a tear to my eye. It looks like
47:09
Speaker 1: there's no crying in baseball. No, there's not football Appurently,
47:12
Speaker 1: let's go around the National Football League quickly. The Richmond
47:16
Speaker 1: Times Dispatch in Virginia is reporting this week the Commanders
47:20
Speaker 1: or proposing a new stadium that would have just fifty
47:23
Speaker 1: five thousand seats. Accordinated Pro Football Talk, FedEx Field had
47:28
Speaker 1: the league's largest capacity from old Ford to thousand. That's
47:33
Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah, it's uh. I grew up a
47:37
Speaker 1: huge fan of the Washington football team. UH two. I
47:43
Speaker 1: think that they're going from is staggering and telling um
47:49
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, which back in the day,
47:52
Speaker 1: the sellout streak was one of the staples of the
47:54
Speaker 1: league at that place. And it's understandable why they built
47:58
Speaker 1: it so large when they did it in UH O
48:01
Speaker 1: four O four, because the thinking at that point is bigger, bigger, bigger.
48:08
Speaker 1: It's telling that that stateium in that mark, even the
48:10
Speaker 1: team is struggled, is reducing to that's about the right
48:15
Speaker 1: number for the NFL these days, and it's about bringing
48:18
Speaker 1: it back in line. It's more about premium seating, luxuries, etcetera.
48:22
Speaker 1: But these cavernous stadiums of old uh you know, it's
48:27
Speaker 1: just too Big News nine and Denver reporting this week
48:30
Speaker 1: the Broncos ownership bidding down to a second round coming
48:33
Speaker 1: up Monday. Four groups are in the hunt. The hope
48:35
Speaker 1: is to have the transaction finalized by the start of
48:38
Speaker 1: the regular season. And John, you can probably hit the
48:42
Speaker 1: a t M for the price of five billion dollars
48:44
Speaker 1: and get the team if you wanted it. Well, it's
48:47
Speaker 1: it's but you know that it shouldn't be overlooked these
48:55
Speaker 1: old traditional franchises, which the Broncos are one of those,
49:00
Speaker 1: one of the successful, one of the glamour teams. I
49:03
Speaker 1: think they're maybe not quite in that old school, but
49:06
Speaker 1: they're there. Don't change hands that often, so it's a
49:09
Speaker 1: significant thing. Fully. Pat Bowling was a major owner in
49:12
Speaker 1: this league for a long time. We'll look forward to
49:14
Speaker 1: the ozone podcast coming up. John, it'll be good. I'll
49:17
Speaker 1: been listening to it. Thanks for the time, man. Thanks
49:20
Speaker 1: always great to see just walk outside with each other.
49:23
Speaker 1: That's true, John Ozar, Jaguars dot Com senior writer. Thanks
49:26
Speaker 1: to Christian Kirk as well Jaguars wide receiver Brent Reeber
49:29
Speaker 1: on the video side, Joe Fortunado on the audio. For
49:32
Speaker 1: everyone involved, I'm JP Shadrick, We will catch you next time.
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