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Devers Trade SHOCKER, Shohei’s a unicorn again, Weekend Catchup · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: There's got to be more behind the scenes that we
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  Speaker 1: don't know about. I'm sorry, like you just don't do
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  Speaker 1: this unless you just don't want the guy around.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what we're talking about the Red Sox today.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, guess what I mean. At least this
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  Speaker 1: time we have a reason to talk. It's not just drama,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also just something they did to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of drama. But also, you know what the best part
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  Speaker 1: of today is not the I mean, not this Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox stuff, but it has to do with another person.
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  Speaker 2: Eric Kratz. Happy birthday yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: No, that wasn't it either.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day to you.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the end of an error today. You guys
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. No, we don't have to hear
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  Speaker 1: that stupid song anymore pitch because guess what he's pitching today.
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  Speaker 1: So guest producer lady kill the song.
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  Speaker 2: It's one more play?
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  Speaker 1: Oh why why do we have to play it again?
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you why later, but it does get one
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  Speaker 2: more play, one more Yes, we have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: business to hit, so let's get right to it. Shock factor.
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  Speaker 2: When you saw that Rothfield Devers got dealt during the
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  Speaker 2: season after the Red Sox swept the Yankees and have
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  Speaker 2: won five games in a row. Top ten bat in
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  Speaker 2: the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, top ten to fifteen bat in the
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  Speaker 1: league for sure. My level of surprise was very high
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  Speaker 1: because of his contract, not because the teams wouldn't want him,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact that they got someone to take him
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  Speaker 1: and take the money.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he's overpaid? He's making half what Bladdie.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's overpaid, but I think that for a DH.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough to justify for a DH only.
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  Speaker 2: So would you have done this if I was the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox, Yes, probably during the season, during this contend
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  Speaker 2: this year and they traded away there's having a career
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  Speaker 2: year at the plate.
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  Speaker 1: Are they a contender?
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, now we know they're not.
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  Speaker 1: But here here's my question. I would have Listen. If
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  Speaker 1: you're the Giants right now, you're like, huh yeah, thank
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  Speaker 1: you the star. We needed the guy who can hit
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  Speaker 1: thirty homers in that ballpark. We just got him.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you trade him? Though? If you're the Red.
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  Speaker 1: Sox, because they're during this they traded Mookie, They've traded
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  Speaker 1: all these guys away. They let him, had that guy walk,
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: they let JD. Walk They let this guy, Chris Sale,
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  Speaker 1: they traded away, right, they traded this guy. They trade that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just what they do.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how did bets go?
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  Speaker 1: Not very well? Okay, great for the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, I just want to make sure we rerack. You
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  Speaker 2: would have done this or you're saying this is common
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  Speaker 2: for what the Red Sox do.
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  Speaker 1: This is common of what the Red Sox do. Would
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  Speaker 1: I've done it? No, because he's their best hitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're screwed this year. Are they going to win
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  Speaker 2: a World Series?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 2: They were second for something? You picked them right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I picked them in the American League.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're screwed this year. Who are they gonna How
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  Speaker 3: are they gonna be able to replace Raffi Devers? They're
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  Speaker 3: just gonna go out hog Market.
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  Speaker 1: They're hoping Roman Anthony, Marcelo Meyer Christian Campbell pick up
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  Speaker 1: their game and cover it. I don't pretz. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. This is one of the great questions.
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  Speaker 1: Heine Bloom trade Mookie Betts, build up the farm system, boom,
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  Speaker 1: he did it all. He got fired. Now he was
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  Speaker 1: in Saint Louis trying to do the same thing. Craig
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  Speaker 1: Brezlo was ordered I we don't know this, but he
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  Speaker 1: was ordered to trade Raffi Devers by John Henry. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get serious, or Craig Bresley wouldn't have made this trade
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  Speaker 1: if he wasn't told to do it. Because they're mad
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  Speaker 1: because he's disgruntled about not playing. So they're like, poops. See,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait till Jim Boden comes on later. I
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  Speaker 1: want to ask him how you deal with disgruntled employees.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen it twice in what three days, Savalle Endeavors.
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  Speaker 1: I know they're different, but still both were disgruntled both poops.
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  Speaker 2: See you Devers didn't request the trade. Devers is a quiet.
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  Speaker 1: No, but he was still disgruntled.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, disgruntled hitting nine hundred something ops have a career
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  Speaker 2: year with his ops, plus he's the best designated hitter
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  Speaker 2: in the American U.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like you walk into the clubhouse and say, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: we can't even be around this guy.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know behind the scenes you think it was
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  Speaker 1: like that. No, I'm not saying we don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt that he's like that. He didn't seem like
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  Speaker 1: that guy No. He seems like a very happy, go
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  Speaker 1: lucky kid. But I don't know that. I'm not there
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  Speaker 1: every day. So until you're there every day, you can't
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  Speaker 1: speak on that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, no way you trade him, No way you trade him.
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  Speaker 3: I in my time, I have never seen somebody with
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  Speaker 3: this level of production and be that much of a
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  Speaker 3: You know what, we don't need him anymore unless ownership said,
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  Speaker 3: if you can get out of that contract at any time,
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  Speaker 3: that would be great because we have no cares about winning.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way a GM sits there goes. We need
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  Speaker 3: to upgrade our pitching with Kyle Harrison and Jordan Hicks.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get rid of the starting DH for the American
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  Speaker 3: League in the All Star Game.
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  Speaker 2: Thought exercise. Could this have happened in the offseason instead
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  Speaker 2: of Now, what's the risk backter that he gets?
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  Speaker 1: They just wanted them out. Listen, did they fly out
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  Speaker 1: to Kansas City? Remember they met with him about a
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: month ago in Kansas City when Cosas went down, and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, we need you to play first or third
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  Speaker 1: or wherever the heck, we need you to play somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: What happened in that meeting. We don't know nothing other
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  Speaker 1: than they were like, oh no, everyone's kumbaya, We're happy
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  Speaker 1: a kuna matada, blah blah blah. Raffi's the best, right,
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  Speaker 1: how do we don't know what happened. Maybe they went
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  Speaker 1: in there and said, Raffi, you either play first, we're
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  Speaker 1: getting rid of you, and Raffi's like, seeya, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Now that could It's all speculation. Nobody knows. But in
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  Speaker 1: order for a trade like this to go down, guess
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  Speaker 1: who has to approve it. They'll they'll deny it because
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  Speaker 1: they'll use pausible noiability. The ownership. Of course, the ownership
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  Speaker 1: has to know this is going down before. Craig Breslo
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  Speaker 1: just can't pick up the phone one day and say
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  Speaker 1: I'm trading Raffie Devers or hey, John Henry, I just
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  Speaker 1: traded Raffie Devers. Thanks click. John Henry would be like, what,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't get it run it through me first. Oh
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  Speaker 1: oh you're fired, Craig because you didn't run it through
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  Speaker 1: me first. Now this goes through ownership. Yeah, of course
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  Speaker 1: ownership had to put pressure on Brazil because Brazil wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have done.
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  Speaker 2: This anything that's this level of significance with money spending
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  Speaker 2: or trading is really done by ownership, and then the
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  Speaker 2: front office just helps to orchestrate things. That includes the
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  Speaker 2: Devers contract crats. I mean it was well documented. There
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  Speaker 2: were good articles about how John Henry flew down to
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  Speaker 2: meet with Devers to get that deal done at the
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  Speaker 2: time because they needed to buy some fan equity since
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: fans were pissed about what happened with Mookie Betts and
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  Speaker 2: just the results of the team in general not operating
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  Speaker 2: like many of their competitors in baseball. Right, why don't
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  Speaker 2: we keep our superstars? Why are our superstars looked at
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  Speaker 2: as pawns versus actually building around some of these guys,
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  Speaker 2: And isn't there a little bit of marketability to having
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  Speaker 2: one or two players that are homegrown superstars stick around
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  Speaker 2: and not looking like the Rays where there's two year turn.
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  Speaker 3: There. I mean the old front office, hein bloom front office,
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  Speaker 3: they were instructed you either get Mooki Bets at next
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  Speaker 3: to nothing, which is a slap in the face to
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  Speaker 3: a pending free agent that came up through your organization,
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  Speaker 3: or you trade him. So essentially I told him you
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  Speaker 3: got trade him. I don't think that front office wanted
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  Speaker 3: to keep Devs or sign Devers over mookie Bets. It
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  Speaker 3: was like, Hey, I'm running an organization, why would I
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  Speaker 3: not want to keep mookie Bets. Well, you got the job.
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  Speaker 3: First job, you got to get rid of mooki Bets,
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  Speaker 3: so that's or or sign him to a ridiculously teamed friendly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look what they offered Xander Bogart's. Or they
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: offered Xander Bogarts with a slap in the face. Of
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  Speaker 3: course he was going to leave. And then it was like, oh, whoops,
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  Speaker 3: that didn't go well. We got to re sign Devers,
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  Speaker 3: or we got to we got to extend Evers before
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: he ever gets to that point. And Rathi's like, cool,
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: I'll just keep hitting dinners.
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• 9:12
  Speaker 2: is a decent team this year, got a shot to
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  Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Their half game out of the wild
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  Speaker 2: apparently a good amount. Actually, I mean there were a
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  Speaker 2: number of other teams listed in one of the reports.
• 9:21
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  Speaker 2: quite a few teams that were in the mix. I
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  Speaker 2: can give them to you and stand by one moment
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: I can't find it. Braves Toronto, San Diego. At least
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  Speaker 2: three well. The Giant said will take the entire contract
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: mid season, which is hard to convince many owners to
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: do in the middle of a year. They like to
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: set their budgets. And they did give them four players.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if one's really much of a prospect.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what is BeO. Is that his just
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: relative somebody? But anyway, the other two should be pitchers
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: that are useful at some point this season. I mean,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Nicks has right toe inflammation, he's on the IL. He
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: didn't pitch well while he was there, but he'll probably
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: come back, I guess as a reliever. Kyle Harrison they
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: optioned right away. He's like a four and a half
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: RA and four starts in four relief appearances after he
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: was called up early May. But let's get back to
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  Speaker 2: the point here. Kratz top ten bat also started over
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  Speaker 2: nineteen with fifteen strikeouts and still has a nine oh
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  Speaker 2: five OPS one for nine ops plus. He is the
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  Speaker 2: best designated hitter in the American League. He is the
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  Speaker 2: best hitter on the team and mid season, after winning
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: five games in a row, you decided now had to
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  Speaker 2: be the time. You're a better team now without him
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: and with that trade package than this year. I get
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: it that it's a long term thing. My thing is,
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: if the Giants loved him so much and other teams
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  Speaker 2: did too, you could have pulled this off in the offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Is there risk of injury and underperformance in the second half, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but the Giants would have made a move like this
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  Speaker 2: in the offseason, and then the Red Sox can say, hey,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: two hundred thirty five million dollars saved over eight and
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: a half years, but we resigned Bragman or we signed
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  Speaker 2: someone else, so we're good. You can't do that mid season.
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  Speaker 2: So they just lost their best player for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the year. That's a mini punt.
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  Speaker 3: For me, that's a big time punt. That's not mini punt.
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  Speaker 3: And you even saw how much how much in the
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  Speaker 3: off season, you didn't see how much Laddie was gonna
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: get in free agency. Now you've already seen how much
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Laddie gets in free agency. Which player do you want more?
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  Speaker 3: You want Vladimir Guerrero or do you want Rafie Devers?
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  Speaker 3: And to me, if you say you want Vladimir Guerrero more.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: You wanted a player like Vladimir Guerrero more. You're like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: but to me, a lot of people would have already
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: taken Devers over Guerrero. So you're just saying, well, we
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: don't really care about results on the field.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, Dever's having a significantly better at bapper
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  Speaker 2: that year, yeah than Bladdy Bladdie's great. Devers is next
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  Speaker 2: level impact bat right now, you're catcher, you're facing him
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: right now when it's whoever you.
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  Speaker 1: Are, let's say it, which is a big deal too.
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  Speaker 2: You're circling him every freaking day, right, this is the.
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  Speaker 1: Guy Garret Cole put him on first.
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  Speaker 2: Garrek Cole and the Yankees have to be pumped put this.
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  Speaker 1: But let's just let's just put I'm gonna say this again.
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  Speaker 1: This was. This was a personal thing. This was we
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  Speaker 1: don't want you here anymore because of the what the
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  Speaker 1: way the bragman first, third base, third.
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  Speaker 2: That was it.
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  Speaker 1: This We can make it about baseball as much as
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  Speaker 1: we want, but this there, there's there's gotta be more
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes that we don't know about. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: like you just don't do this unless you just don't
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  Speaker 1: want the guy around you.
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  Speaker 3: Do it personal. So who's the person Henry, Alex Corra,
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: Craig Breslow, name one if you were to guess, Because
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: one time I got traded because somebody got in a
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  Speaker 3: fight with somebody in the clubhouse, and within thirty minutes
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  Speaker 3: they were trading this player. Obviously he wasn't a monster player,
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  Speaker 3: but he was on the big league team. I was
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  Speaker 3: in TRIPLEA. In thirty minutes, the trade went down and
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  Speaker 3: I got traded to this team. That is like a
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  Speaker 3: coach making the decision the clubhouse is that fractured? Who
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: who would be so offended by, Hey, I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to play first base. Hey I'm pissed off I'm not
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  Speaker 3: playing third Who is that offended? Does Alice Korr have
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  Speaker 3: that much power? Does Craig Breslow have that much where
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  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, I built this team bringing Bregman in.
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  Speaker 3: I need you to be more flexible, John Henry really
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  Speaker 3: care that much about the Red Sox on and off
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  Speaker 3: the field stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they all cared.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all three of them were actually real quick.
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  Speaker 2: This is the timeline. One side says, you called us
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  Speaker 2: out last year and said we weren't putting a good
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: enough team together. This year, we put a better team together,
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  Speaker 2: and you said I'm not willing to be flexible. That's
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  Speaker 2: one side. The other side said, you signed me as
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  Speaker 2: your franchise player and promised third base to me. You
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  Speaker 2: told me in the offseason all good, that's just rumors,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: were not actually shopping for a third baseman. You get
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  Speaker 2: a third baseman and then you don't say anything until
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  Speaker 2: I show up to spring training and then you say,
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  Speaker 2: throw your glove away. You suck on defense. So he said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and then he said I'm going to be the best
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  Speaker 2: DH and then he was. And then they said we
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  Speaker 2: need you back. We're down a third basement and a
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  Speaker 2: first baseman. Can you play first? And he was like, nah,
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  Speaker 2: not right now. I'm not that good of a glove
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  Speaker 2: like you said. So we want to talk in the
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: off season about this. Cool, but right now I'm your
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  Speaker 2: best hitter. Maybe we should just leave it like this.
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  Speaker 2: That's the entire timeline. And like we talked about earlier,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Superstar has a line. Most superstars would be kind of
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  Speaker 2: pissed about that communication process. Showing up to spring training
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  Speaker 2: and then just being like, throw your glove away, you
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  Speaker 2: suck on defense. That is exactly what happened. Yeah, everyone,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: every player has an ego. You can't tell me that
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't piss someone off. And again, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: he's completely right here, because there are many players that
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: still say screw it and say I'm gonna play whatever
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  Speaker 2: I need to win because I'm locked up for the
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: long term. But he was pissed and so they broke up.
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  Speaker 2: But the Red Sox are worse. The Giants will get
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: to a little bit later on because they might be
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  Speaker 2: they might be a little serious threat in the National
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  Speaker 2: League best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they pitched the way they pitch, and
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  Speaker 1: they get a little bit offense. They're dangerous. Now you
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: know what this does to the Giants. I know, we
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: got a break, but gives them a shot of energy.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, whoa, we just got one of the best
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  Speaker 1: hitters in the league to come. Let's go baby.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: All right, we've got mass lives Chris Gattillo joining us.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: He's getting close to leading FT in appearances lately. Because
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox picked the wrong year to do the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: It was this year. But anyway, Chris good to see
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  Speaker 2: you How shocked were you when you saw the news
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: of the Dever's trade and what team can you spill
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  Speaker 2: for us?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was stunning. I mean, I think
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: it's one of those things that you look at your phone.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: And I've known Robert Murray for a very long time
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: and I was worried about his cybersecurity practices because I
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: thought he was hacked. So I was just like stunned,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: you know, to see that the timing more than anything,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: you know, mid June team's riding high. Devers had just
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: talked to the media us there yesterday for the first
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: time in like a month. In the moment, shocked. Then
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: when you think back about, you know, what the last
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: four or five six months have been like with him,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: it's less shocking, a lot less shocking. And it was
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: headed toward this messy divorce, and I think, you know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: maybe even a little worse than any of us knew.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: But when you see that notification, when you see his
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: car getting packed up at Fenway, the land Rover sitting there.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I was there yesterday, went back to the ballpark to
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: see that, it's jarring. It's crazy. And to think that,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: you know, tonight Alex Gore has to write out a
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: lineup that doesn't have him in it for the first
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: time a very long time. It's a big deal. The
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: outrage around here is ben Amenz. You can imagine that.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: You know, I've covered a lot of big moves and
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: big things. Mookie getting traded is the ender leaving Firings Hirings?
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: All that?
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: A World Series Championship? I mean, this was the notification
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: that makes you go, oh wow, I can't be real.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And it was.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Chris you mentioned this. How far this goes back? Does
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: this go back to anything? Last year when deverst Memory
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: called out the team said we need to be a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: better team. Is there something? And we asked this question
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and I said, it's all of them. Is it Alex
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Corr that got mad? Is it Craig Bresla that got mad?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Is it John Henry that got mad? Is it some
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: other masshole up there we don't know about that got mad?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Is it, you know, somebody on the Penguins. I mean,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is it somebody Lebron James get mad? Because he's part
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of Fenwick group?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Who got mad? And when did this all start? Because
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this seems like something that could have been solved with
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: like one phone call.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sidney Crosby has been beside himself about this for
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: the last year.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: As as you mentioned that Mario Lemieuz pissed.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I hear, but this is, like I think, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: it's one of those things where Devers got his deal
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: right place, right time. Number one, immensely talented, multi time
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: All Star, speaks for itself, one of the best hitters
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: in baseball, and I got who I think is underrated,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: walking and play every day. You know, he's the extra bass,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: the slug, the exit vla, what he means to a
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: line up. He's amazing and I think they gave him
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: that deal in part because of that, but also in
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: part because Mooki had just left and they had to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: trade him. Xander had, you know, just been the extension
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: talks broke down. He went to San Diego. They need
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: to spend on someone, and they couldn't let a third
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: one get away. The fan pressure was too much, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: then once that happened, Devers kept producing. I think there
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: were little things along the way, and we reported this
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: right along. This is you know, Twitter accuses the beat
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: of all smear campaign because he's gone. We've said this
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the whole time. There's been things like appearances and media
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: obligations and and fan meet and greets and commercials and
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: sponsorship stuff that the Red Sox asked Evers to do,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and he basically told them what he said. And a
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: very viral clip with the former hitting coach Tim Hyers,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: they pay me good. I hit home runs and that's
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: all he wanted to do. He just wanted to, you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: play baseball. He didn't want to do the rest of it,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: and I think the Red Sox thought he was going
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: to do a little bit more of the rest of it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I think there was a little bit of frustration around that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I think he was a little bit of a bit
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: frustrated dating back with those spring training comments from last
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: year that they didn't put a better team around him.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: But that's like a one out of ten on the
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: scale of irritation with each other, and it got ratcheted
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: up to a ten. I think, you know, maybe not
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: immediately with the Bregmant thing. I think he was mad about.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: You know, from what we've heard in the last couple
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: of days or the last twenty four hours, it feels
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: like a week he feels like he was you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: scapegoaded for their problems this year when it's you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a dysfunctional roster. He feels like the communication was disorganized
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: and disjointed, and he felt like the decision makers on
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: the team we're telling him different things. Whether that speaks
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to a schism between you know, coaching staff, in front
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: office or different voices, ownership, whatever, I don't know. That's
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: just how he feels about it. And by the time
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Cassis got hurt and they asked him to play first base,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I think he looked at them and said, like, are
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: you guys really doing this again? You're really going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: try to you know, we have a good thing going now,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I'm d h and I'm hitting, well, are we really
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: doing this again? And I think, you know, as I've
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: said now for weeks, as we've talked on here and
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: everywhere else about it, Like I think it's a nuanced situation.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I think you can blame Devers for at the end
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: of the day, being a team employee, he should, you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: do what was asked. You know, a j and Eric,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: you guys played like you can you know, say like, hey,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: if your team asked you to do something. It's a
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: lot of guys that would say, you do it, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: jump how high?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: And then I think there's a lot of nuance with
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: the Red Sox communicating this poorly. You know, Craig Breslo
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: was a major leaguer, he was in the clubhouse all that,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: and so it's a little surprising that there are these
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: communication breakdowns dating back to Alex Cora advertising at potential
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Alex Bregman edition as a future Gold Gloves second basement,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: not third, and then when they signed him, he didn't
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: even really work out at second. So I think both sides,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you know, are at fault here. But it's a messy divorce.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: That's the headline here. It's not who they got back.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: It's not the money. It's at this point in time,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: you know, the sides couldn't move on together and it
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: was unsalvageable that way.
• 21:26
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• 21:29
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• 21:32
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• 21:35
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• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, so half the team is built by a man
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: heim Bloom, who is blamed for getting rid of mookie bets.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: That's kind of subsided a little bit found out. Ownership
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: kind of pushed him, but oh he could never He
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: could never make the big deal. Heim Bloom could never
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: finish the deal. Who in this divorce is going to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: get the most blame as we look down the road
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Cora Breslo, John Henry ownership group.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Right now, the targets on Breslo from fans, you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: we've heard it's a collaborative effort. I think you know
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: that big Kansas City meeting where John Henry goes to
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: meet with Devers and Breslos not in the room. To me,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: that set a lot where okay, this has reached a
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: different level. And once Devers didn't respond to that, I
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: think from an ownership level down, they decided we're going
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: to be open to a path forward that doesn't include
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Raphael Devers. And whether that path took you know, a year,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: whether it took months, whether it took you know, four
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: or five weeks like it did, they were going to
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: quietly explore it. I think once San Francisco said we'll
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: take on the rest of the deal, they begin to
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: really really explore it. I think the Red Sox were
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: a little surprised that a team was willing to take
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: on the rest of the contract because it is a
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: big one, as talented as Devers is, and so you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: this stuff all happened really fast, and you know, Devers
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: never got to the point where he demanded a trade
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: and went in and said you need to trade me
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: right now. You know the semantics of that, it was
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: he opened to one, I believe. So is he crying
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: in the fetal position because the Red Sox traded him
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: last night? I don't think so. I think he's okay,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: and you know, maybe excited about a new opportunity, still
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: processing it and we'll probably be in the lineup tomorrow
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: against the Guardians. It's just, you know, I think there
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: is blame to go around right now. You know, the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: fans look at Breslo as the target. You know, Cora's
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: messaging on this wasn't perfect. And I think at the
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: end of the day, the Red Sox also made a
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: mistake by I think, maybe not overplaying their hand, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: not like really grasping what Raffi's reaction to all this
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: would be. I think they went into it with the
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: attitude of, all right, well, even if we signed Bregman,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: what's he gonna do? Is he gonna retire, is he
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: gonna quit? Is he gonna let us suspend him?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: How mad could he possibly be? And they found out
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: how mad he could possibly be? And it kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: cast a dark cloud over the whole season, even you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: when they played well in the last couple of weeks.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: So was it this crazy clubhouse schism where guys you
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: know hated RAFFI I don't think so. I think, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: there was just a distraction and drama all year long,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: dating back to spring training.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And if you gave anybody in the organization truth theorem,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: they would acknowledge that anybody who's been around the team
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: is happy to It's just I think that they looked at,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: you know, the opportunity to move the money get what
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: they think is a talented package. We can argue that
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: and just rid themselves of what they found to be
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: a distraction and an unsalvageable relationship as too attractive, and
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: they probably were afraid they wouldn't get that opportunity again.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Of course, we don't know, because Breslo and Sam Kennedy
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: haven't spoken yet.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Chris. First of all, we'll get you some tissues in emergency,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: because you know, the sniffles are part than up in
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Boston this time of year. I know, I know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: It's all in mix with a sinus infection recovery. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: mean flights everywhere, and it's really going through hell.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: He's battling.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: He's good though, No, he's grind. Yeah, yeah, he's a grinder.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Creds will call you one, but I will Okay, I'll
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: call you a grind. All right. Now here's my question.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You mentioned this at the end here, but I want
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to I want to expound on this, expand and whatever
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the word is. You know better than me on this.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: How bad was it? Was it bad with Alex Korra,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Was it bad with Craig Breslow? Did it start last year?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Did it start this year?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Again, how bad was this behind the scenes? Because if
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you want Raffi Devers play, he's raking, he's happy, he's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: going around. Players you talk to love playing with Raffi
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Devers from what I was told, So how bad was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it Wasn't the players? I don't think that were like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think some players were like, yeah, do
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do. I get that part of it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But there's also some players that are like, hey, as
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: long as this dude hits, he's got a nine hundred
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: ops and a one thirty whatever it is ops plus,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: like he can be our dh David Ortiz did that
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: for years and nobody cared. I played with David. David
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't you know, he wasn't out there and the you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he was in the clubhouse doing some things during games,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: and nobody cared. You know why, because David go out
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and hit you a home run and do what Raffi
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Devers is doing. So how much of this was just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: or maybe the question is how bad was this? Because
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I just can't believe that they did made this move.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I understand why they did it, but man, it had
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to be terrible among one of them.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean bad enough to trade the guy right
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: in the second year of a ten year deal. Like
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that's that's I think the answer, right, I mean they did.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't think it was that bad when I woke
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: up yesterday, so to put that in perspective, But again,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I think there was that cloud looming. I think they,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: like I just said, kind of misunderstood how he'd react
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to it, and then both sides dug in at a
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: certain point. And I think that Kansas City meeting, you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: was either the beginning of the end or pretty close
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to the end, where they basically did something that you
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: don't see very often. John Henry gets on the plane,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: they lock Henry cora Endeavors in an office at Kaufman Stadium,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: and Henry says, hey, we need you to play first base.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: And it seems like, based on the fact he was
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: traded last night that he said, no, I'm your DH
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: stop you know, jerky me around like this. And at
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: that point, you know, when you are resisting the owner
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: and you can see Raffie's side, you can see the
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Red Sox side, and I certainly do on both. When
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: you're resisting the owner and the people who are signing
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: the check don't think that you're all in, then they
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: explore these options. So you know, I've heard unsalvageable from
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: one side in the last twenty four hours. I've heard
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: untenable from the other side in the last twenty four hours.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: So there you go.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Last one, How much does this hurt the twenty twenty
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: five Red Sox contenders half game out of a wildcard spot,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: winners of five in a row, just swept the Yankees.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts on the return package?
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think you know the return package
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: and this is not just secondary but like eighth on
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: the list of takeaways, and it's interesting because you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: there's so much focus on that. You know, Hicks is
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: a guy that they wanted to sign a couple years ago.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: His money offsets a little bit. Maybe get him in
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: the lab. They love velocity all that. You know, if
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: they get anything out of him, great, Obviously. Harrison, I
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: think it's probably the big picture guy, the guy that
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: they really, you know, want a twenty three year old
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: arm Tibbs is the guy who you know, they can
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: maybe build around and as a double A guy they
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: don't have a ton of prospects now because they're all
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: the big leagues, So you know, I think that is
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: there's upside, especially with Harrison and Tibbs. To me, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: people forget that the package is going to be significantly
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: lessened by the fact that San Francisco took on the
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: whole deal. If the Red Sox are taking on half
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: that deal, you're getting better players back. And so the
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Red Sox look at you know, the trade value if
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: you want to use the charts or the apps or whatever,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: of that two hundred and fifty some odd million as
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: like the biggest piece of it. The fact they are
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: able to get players is part of it. Too, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I do think that they like Harrison. I think they
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: like Hicks and Tibbs and the boh they got. If
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: you look at what their lineup's going to be the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: next few weeks without Alex Bregman answer the first part
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: of your question, I mean, it's it's really really, really
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: really young. You have four rookie who are probably going
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to be starting every day now. Narvaia's has been good,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: and then the big three of Campbell, Anthony and Meyer,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: who are all super young, taking their lumps, having good
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: moments here and there that we've seen, and then you know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Duran obviously still in the mix. They're gonna have probably
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: have a bray you come back Friday in San Francisco,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: which will be a secondary story that day at Oracle Park.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: But that Ever's presence I think is like just it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: it was the one thing you could rely on. Remember,
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Cossas is out for the year, story's been streaky, Bregman's
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: out for still a little while here, and a Braw's
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: out right now. So they haven't you know, won games
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the last week or so because they've hit for the
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: most part. I mean in New York they did. Everybody
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: does there here at home. They you know, pitched and
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: that was encouraging. But their lineup's taking a big hit,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and I feel like, you know, they have to start
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: looking for a big bat. They can't just hope and
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: pray that Anthony and Meyer and Campbell and a streaky
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Trever story and Carlos narvaa's who no one had never
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: heard of in December, who's been great can carry an offense.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: You just they don't have the offensive firepower right now.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So the twenty twenty five version of the Red Sox
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: got way worse yesterday. Until they make another move, all.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Right, Chris, real quick before we let you go. So
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Devers was trained because John Henry got mad because they
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: had a meeting and he wouldn't play first, but after
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't play third, after the Red Sox didn't call him.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So Dalax Scorer is mad at him, Craig Breslo's didn't
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: mad at him, and Draffi Devers and so this all
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: again could have all been fixed, maybe with one phone
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: call in the offseason. I don't know. But no, before
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we get before we get that shortened answer, here's my thing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Next weekend must watch TV, Guess what the Red Sox
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: go to the Giants. You can't make this crap up.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: They go to the Giants next week. That first game,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that Friday night game, is that going to be the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: most watched game in like Red Sox regular season history
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in a long time. Yeah.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And Dominic Smith is on the Giants too, which for
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Red Sox fans that's, you know, basically the same level.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is actually well, he's a good guy. Great,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: the Red Sox fans loved him. I said on our
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: pod this morning, Devers is gonna be like my, it's
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: five hundred for a homer against the Red Sox this weekend.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, just ultimate lock. So they got three chances Friday,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Saturday or Sunday. But you know, if you were a
• 32:09
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• 32:11
  Speaker 4: and you have a flight to San Francisco on a
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: five day stay there tonight, all of a sudden, you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: it's been a crazy week. So we'll see how it goes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And you can get more from Chris on that pod
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: that he's talking about, a fen May Rundown podcast. Check
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: out all of his work in masslave dot com. He's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: certainly been busy this year. And since they decided to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: do the documentary on them last year instead of this year,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: follow Chris for all of the drama. Chris, thank you,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: good to see you man.
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• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the a's reverse boycott broadcast. Remember that game I do
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: from twenty three June of twenty twenty three. You know
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the movie Men in Black where they have that thing
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and they put it in front of your eyes and
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: then it makes you forget stuff. So they did that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to everyone. So that reverse boycott boycott game that wasn't
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a real thing. They took it away from the archives.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: That game, apparently, according to s f Gate and some
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: other spots reported on as well, cannot be found. All right, ready,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm ready, krats. Although, look at the lights. Okay, I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: looking look at the light. AJ have to look at
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the lights.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: So you never remember remember I like to remember things.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Nope, done, Wait, so the have always been in Sacramento.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: That was just supposed to eliminate one game. I thought
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: nobody was going to see it. I thought Major see
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Major Baseball. Nobody was going to see it. Nobody would
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: ever miss one game, a historic game where fans boycotted.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: How petty is it to do that?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: They're reverse boycotted.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, how petty is it to do that?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's oh, no comment. I'm gonna say it's trying to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: harder some things I.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Don't if you don't remember that game they took out
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: they took out sections of home run highlights because you
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: wouldn't see the fans, and then they blamed it on
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: an intern. Yeah right, save it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Did you guys see this quote from Davy Martinez? It
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: was a lit weekend even without the big stuff that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: we were talking about. But this was in the midst
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of their seven game skid. I think this was on
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Friday set. It's never on coaches. Coaches work their asses
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: off every single day. We're not going to fingerpoint here
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and say it's on coaches. It's never on the coaches.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They work hard. The message is clear. All the work
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: is done prior. Sometimes they got to go out there
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and they got to play the game. It's always been
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: about players always. I played this game a long time
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: number once in I blamed the coach for anything. We
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: worked our asses off to get better. They get simpo
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: used it. These guys understand what the game is on
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and on. It's too long for us to hit the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: whole thing right now. But he's like, we can't pitch,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: we can't hit, YadA YadA. I mean, in fairness, I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: think they've been out performing expectations over the past few
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: years for what they have roster wise.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Where's the uh, where's the big signings that we got
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: used to and they won in nineteen remember it was
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Sures or it was Corbin and it was all these guys,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Jason Worth and all these.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: People, and they haven't done that. They've been trying to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: obviously some of them and developed, but they brought in.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: A bunch of people, right, So then how do you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: expect Listen, I agree with Davey Martinez to an extent,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like it's not on the coaches. It's not they They
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: do work just as hard as every other coach. But
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: certain coaches are better at community with certain players, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: certain players are better understanding other coaches. And yet I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: know what David Martinez is doing. One he's trying to
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: save his own ass and two he's trying to save
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: his coaches ass. And we've talked about this before where
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: managers come out and say there's it's happened a lot.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: We've had GMS and everyone talk about on the show.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Managers will get teams, go to coaches and say, hey,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: if you don't fire so and so, you're out too,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and they'll say I'll die on that sword.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Ownership has been on a freeze because they're trying to
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: sell not getting their price. They might start investing again
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: next off. That's what it is. When will show throughout tonight?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to run that? There? We want
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to throw?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Was the season finale of when Will Why?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: We already knew the answer. It should have been shows
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: throw or something.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: That's why immediately and we say tonight one inning tonight.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Or two according to Jim, if he has a quick.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Inning or two and then he'll build up and there
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: are show.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be fast. I've said this, this is
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating. How to handle this? But how does
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: this affect his hitting? Because remember when he pitched, he
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: didn't hit certain days and so it cost him time
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: to hit her. I mean, this guy's like one of
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the best hitters in the league. Im not the ian
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: him a judge. You make the argument of the two
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: best hitters in baseball for power, for average, for everything.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: How does it affect that? And his value has been
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: last last year, especially m v P fifty to fifty
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: as a hitter. So how does this pitching effect this hitter?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Will will he be more tired? Will you have to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: take more days off? Will they have to do this?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Will they have to do that on daisy pitches? Can
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: he DH on nine? I don't know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Well, we saw it a few years ago.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Exactly. His numbers weren't as good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Right, his game is elevated since he wasn't pitching. Dave
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Roberts said that he had been getting anty and they
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: were all hinting at it and krats. They're basically going
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: off the you tell us when you're ready approach. He's
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: not going to rehab and there are show hey Tani
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: rules two way player gives you a fourteenth pitcher, so
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: they're not losing a pitching roster spot when he's deciding
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: to pitch, and he can date obviously when he's removed
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: from the game. These are all Otani. Really, I call
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: him Unicorn rules because it's not just for him. If
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: anyone else wants to be a Unicorn, go ahead, you
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: can and you get special rules.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: You think Otani thinks the biggest rival in the division
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: is the giant, or you think it's just coincidence they're
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: playing the Padres since o'tana has been there, who's they
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: needed a picture? I think they just needed a picture tonight.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: And he's like, I'll give you an inning. Who's backing?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I gotta look. I don't know if the top of.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: My piggybacking, there's gotta be somebody.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: If Jim is right, If Jim is correct and says, okay, who.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: They're trying to build.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Up to be a start, he's got good stuff.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: He's got good stuff. But if he's right, and this
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: is show Hay's idea, like, hey, I want to do
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: this show. Hey knows it's a big game and knows
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: they need they need innings. He's watched. I don't think
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: he's a dh that's just putting his feet up and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: not watching the game. Like he's like, yeah, I'm ready
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: to go. Why can't I just do this? Oh it's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the Padres. Yeah I'll be good. You'll see a ninety
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: nine tonight.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's a unicorn. He's gonna pay. I agree with you, though,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the most fascinating part of this to me is not
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the pitching. I think he's going to pitch. Well, it's
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the bat.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Does Does he pitch the inn or two tonight and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: then have to take tomorrow off because he's sore and tire?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: No? Probably not. But what about when he's going saying.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Though, but like, no matter what you say about, oh,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I've been throwing simulated games. I mean I could play
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a million spring training games, meaning like the inner squad
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: spring training games. In the first game I take the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: field as against another team, I was always sore because
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it's a different level. Like I could throw a million bullpens.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: In that first game. When you go out there and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: pitch on a big league mound, this isn't even spring training.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: This is a real big league game. You're gonna be sore.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So does tomorrow As he say, man, I gotta take
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: tomorrow off because my legs are sore, my backs or
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: my arm's sore from from pitching and I haven't done
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: in two years.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: If he feels that way, then he'll do it. It's
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: all dictated on whatever he wants to do and how
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: he feels. The team is completely really at the mercy
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: of what he thinks because he knows his body better
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: than anyone else, and there's no past precedent, so it's
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: not like the team can go, oh, well, this is
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: how we've done it for X, Y and Z. Also,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: at this point, I can say this Cratz not going
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to the Dodgers so quickly and being like, oh, tell
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: me how to stay healthy. I mean, no offense. But
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: they have not kept pictures healthy. It's just a fact
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: at this point. They brought it up last year. It
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: continues on right now. I'm listening to show Hey. The
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: best way that you can operate with Show Hey is
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to let him dictate how things go and not set
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: a schedule for him. The Angels learned that early on.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. But I think he's gonna
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: look great on the mound for this team. Is he
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: gonna run a little bit less on the base pass?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Is he? I mean not that that affects the arm,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: but you know, like, is he going to take a
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: break here and there? Maybe also because he can. I mean,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers are going to fight for the division, They're
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: gonna make the playoffs. If he tells them, hey, I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: need one day now, it's no problem.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I felt like, I mean, leggs do affect your your arm?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Does affect your legs. You pitch with your legs. I
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: felt like later on in his starts, when he was
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: legging out doubles, it just looked it looked different. It
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: didn't look the same as he's cruising into second or
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: trying to round second for a triple. I'm just completely
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor. I never talked to him about it,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: but it's what it looked like to me. So yeah,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's not gonna run as much. I think
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: it was still hit dangers, but.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I'm excited. I mean, you only get this for now,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: once in a lifetime, to see a guy throw and hit.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: You don't know how much longer it's going to happen.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: There's nothing waiting in the wings that's anything close to
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: what Otani does. So let's have some fun with it.
• 42:43
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  Speaker 2: but we have to do it in these few minutes
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: that we can here and there because of obviously the
• 43:57
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• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a few things out there. The J's were maybe the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: hottest team over the last couple of weeks. They had
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: won twelve or fourteen. They got destroyed by the Phillies
• 44:09
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• 44:12
  Speaker 2: They've won seven of eight. They just swept the White Sox,
• 44:15
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• 44:17
  Speaker 1: In the Standard, they swept the White Sox, they still
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: didn't score a lot of runs.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Royals have lost six The Royals, Royal swept by the A's.
• 44:26
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• 44:29
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• 44:31
  Speaker 2: four consecutive games, and now his line is better than
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: it's been in his first few years. I mean, that's
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: how quickly things can change. The Cardinals have lost seven
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: of eight. They've kind of sunk back down level.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: The City's the one to me that's been surprising.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how bad they How bad they?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: They can't score? I mean even Bobby whitson a good year,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: No Ram, I mean, he's having a good year for
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: most guys, but not for him. I still like Salviy
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Salvey's looking old now, I mean you know. My question
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: about Salvy is and maybe you can ask this more.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Why don't they let for me and catch more? Man
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Like Salvey catches a lot, Dude, like, just let Selvy
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: play first every once in a while, DH Like, what
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: are we doing? He doesn't need to catch anymore.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Then he passed. Quentino might be their best battery for
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the last month and a half. You got to keep
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: him in the lineup. Jack Kagleon will start to hit.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I think he'll figure it out.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: He's been called so far to start.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: It's hard to throw a guy that's that's a rookie
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: into the middle of a pener ration to go get him,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I still like them, that's all I'm thinking. So do
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: we want to get to Wilson Contrares here real quick?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: What did you think about the little collision with him
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: in Durban and then them talking back and forth and
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: then him calling out Reese Hoskins saying he saw.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I never I never played first,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Cratch you played first. But this is bad footwork play him,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: isn't it? Like he steps backwards right into the line.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So I had Durbin right there. He's in the middle
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of the way the line, So I mean he's gonna
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: get run overs?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Is he mad at Durban?
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Then I don't know.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: That was kind of the point. And then I'm sure
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Reese said something like learning how to play first or
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: work on your footwork right and then but then, but
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: then the next day, Catreras had all those quotes about
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: this guy, this f and guy and f and this
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and f and that and there dugout. Well then he
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: hits your girl ball, Rees says something to him. Caturis
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: didn't even look at him, like, there's your.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Shot, bro, Go get him. You're two foot away from him,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Go get him. He said he liked to talk from
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: far away. Well, he was right next to him. That
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: was his chance. Maybe maybe Wilson likes to talk from
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: far away too. Do you think he stepped into the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: line on purpose? Does it look I've never seen a
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: first baseman do that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I know he knew. That's why I'm confused.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's new, but we're June sixteenth now,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a first basement unless he was pissed
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: about getting hit by a pitch, just saying.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Wait, they hit by a pitch? Was before or after?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought, I thought after right, So my
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: question is, there's the hit by pitch Mike.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: He runs against the ball right like yeah, and he's like, oh, hey,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: get Dona. We're friends, taha. But then what do we what.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: As a fan? I I don't care that much about
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the footwork. I care about him being pissed at the
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: team for one of their players running into him for
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: bad footwork, like why is he? Why is he Matt? Oh,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: because Reese said you can't play first.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Or something like that, he get out of the way.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a tough call. Tough to call
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: out a team when I mean, you could have caused
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: a serious injury. We see bad collisions at first base sometimes.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: But again, this is my whole point. We've talked about
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: this before. Like Atrist said all this, Reese also gets
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: into a double play. The next day, he's running right
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: by Reese. Reese says something to him. He doesn't say
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a word. He is running like get that, there's your shot, bros.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: He's two foot away from you. You want him that bad,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and you say all those things. He's right there.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: It so rarely happens.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I know, but that's but then don't say what you said,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: like you don't need to say it, right, Am I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: wrong on this one? Crowds like, don't say it, just
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, sorry, I made a mistake, and
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: they took care of him.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: We moved on and Anderson.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Did not happen. Good show today. That's why we do
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: this a lot happening. First off, congratulations to JJ in
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: chap ECC he won.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: That's one.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Two was his prediction that San Francisco would win on
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Friday night six to two on a Yamamoto game. It
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: was six to two. He predicted seven too, So he
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: was one off of San Francisco's run and he was
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: money on the Dodgers runs. There were others that were
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a total of two off, but he was one off
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of one team, so he.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Was a great pick. That was a great pick, Yamamoto.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: It was bold. I love it, JJ, you were going
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: for because Yamamoto wasn't going to give up more than
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: five runs.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Well Well done, JJ, Yeah they got him on Friday.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: The Giants now they're going to be more of a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: pain to deal with. But congratulations.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Look a web pitch pretty good too.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: You did pitch very well. He's having a great year.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Two free tickets for JJ to a regular season game
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of his choice, up to four hundred bucks. We already
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: reached out, just like we gave a couple of tickets
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: away the week before, and we'll do it again. We'll
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: do an announcement tomorrow on the next contest. It's another contest.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: This one involves memes. That's the hint.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, last night's Dodgers Giants game was a
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: great game. Yes, and Andy Paehyes, we talked about Hunter
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Goodman being an All Star. Andy Pie's got to be
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: talked about an All Star for sure. I know the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Dodgers have Freeman and Otani and Bets and Will Smith
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and all these other guys, but Andy Paez is right
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: up there with him.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Some fans were not thrilled with his first few weeks
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: of the season, and to those fans, I say, patience.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's been He's been ridiculously good.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: He has been really good. A couple other things that
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: we didn't have time to get to. This actually broke
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Friday soon after the show. Justin Martinez is having Tommy
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: John surgery. So that's it for the best reliever in
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the bullpen for the Diamondbacks. Their bullpen's taking some hits.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, god, they have Shelby Miller for now.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I mean also, I will say this weekend.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Did you see the comeback they had on Saturday?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: They had a great comeback was one out to.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Spare about eight seven four, and they came back.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: They had like a bass clearing double I think it was.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And then they had the chopper off the plate and
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: they had to review it the chopper and they threw
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: it home and had to review and they got to
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: celebrate twice. It was awesome.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: This team can score runs. And Mike Kazan, who's in
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: charge of the front office there, said this weekend that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: their buyers as of now now.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: They scored five with out.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: They've got a great offense.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can hit.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Kratz, I think from their organizational perspective,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: they're like, what if we go crazy and we pick
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: up one or two bullpen pieces plus a starter? Why
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: not us?
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, with that offense, I would agree with you,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: that's a lot to pick up. They're not the only
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: team that's looking for a starter and some bullpen pieces.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but some teams are are very calculated and then
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: they usually finish in second, third or fourth for trades.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: He's gon'll go get him if he thinks he can
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: get him.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And he has the regret from two years ago when
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: they fell short on Jordan Montgomery and then he beat
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: them in the World Series.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: And last year when they won eighty nine games, they
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: didn't get in.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: And missed by a game. So yeah, we've talked about
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the assets for the Diamondbacks. They can be the kings
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: of the trade deadline with selling pieces, but if they're
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: playing like this, they're not selling. The Orioles claim they're
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: not selling right now either. The Ools are I think
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: six games out of the wild card spot, and Jim
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Bowden's report in The Athletic was how they might want
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: to go get a starter. You think a little late
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: on that one, but there are only six games out.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: If you listen to an Orioles game, all the talk
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: is if we're it's a lot of we talk if
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: we're at five hundred by the end of June. If
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: we're there, watch out for this team. And I'm like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I means you missed your opportunity. To me, they missed
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: their opportunity in the offseason, that's it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it'll come up short,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: but they're going to give it a shot because there's
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: still a lot of season left to go, still half
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: a year left. And then for the Braves, I know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: they got smacked yesterday and no Grant Holmes was a
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: punch out machine. Spencer Strider did pitch well on Saturday,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: but is that getting to Colorado since their strikeout machine
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: six shot out innings, three hits, thirteen punchouts, and the
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: bigger story is yesterday why.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: They struck the Rockies struck off fifteen times and beat
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: them ten to one. Yeah, I mean, Gomber came back
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and pitched well, But you punch out another team fifteen
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: times at your starter, you'd better win that game. You
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: gotta win that game. I'm sorry you do. I mean
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that's you have the Rocky some credit though. They hung
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: in the bullpen, came in and gave it up.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: But that was that was they were. I mean that many,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: that many strikeouts and six plus innings. I mean, maybe
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: that's maybe that's why they didn't make any plays later
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: in the game for the relievers, for the Brase relievers,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: because they were all just standing there the whole game
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: out in the Atlanta sun, Like, I guess we're not Wow,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, we gotta go get the ball.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was stale for a while, but anyway,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: it was a fun weekend. There was a lot going on.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: It's like the wildest weekend in a long time.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: It was. I agree. There's a couple of things we
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: didn't get to today that I want to get to tomorrow.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: The baseball has changed, tracker legend. Let's take krats hats
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: and then we have one or two other things here quick.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: What do you got be wearing a Red Sox hat
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to match your Red Sox shirt.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there's no way. If you have
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: if it's ice cream day and you have ice cream
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: to eat, you can eat ice cream. This is everything
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: is Red Sox. Why would I not put on everything
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: that I have that's Red Sox because.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to wear a shirt that's
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Boston since they're struggling since you left the organization behind
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: the scenes, And then a Giant's hat to be like,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: but the Giants won the trade.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: I wore the Giants hat on Friday. I was going
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: to do that. You were in my head already.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, people are asking me, you know what
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: number will RAFFI wear? I mean, listen. I will not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: give him permission to wear thirty six. I'm sorry, sorry, Rafi,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you can't wear thirty six. It's retired. I will not
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: give you permission.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: He can have five.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: He who has eleven?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Uh, it's retired.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I retired eleven.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Eleven is retired.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Do we know who it is? Shy to look it up?
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Somebody said it earlier, but it's retired.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: My Google got it quick.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Carl Hubble, Carl Hubble, that's.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: A good chunk of retired unis. Huh. They got like
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: seven or eight. Yeah, all right, so we'll see organization. Hey,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: we have all star uniforms, and everyone's like, wait, I
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: thought they can wear what they want. They can. These
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: are for what VP VP and Derby okay, and.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: The skills competition. Oh wait, they're not doing a skills
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: competition there never.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: They're going back to wearing their regular jerseys though, right, yes, finally,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we ever went away from that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you see how the hats. You see how
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the hats are if you look closer, the hats have
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: like a crease in the in the front top. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: wonder if they're going to move all the hats to that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah, I think I got to call my new
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: era guy.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, jerseys are cool. They have the Atlanta script and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: the A on the You know that Lanta has like
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the Curson re script.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I like lowercase. Yeah, you can't read You don't like
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: them cras. What's wrong?
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: I can't read curs it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: They don't teach it anymore.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Anywhere or in the middle of Pennsylvania.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: They don't teach it anywhere anyway, cursive, how to write it,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: how to read it. So my kids can't sign. That's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: why we get Johnny to Lucas signing just a jay
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: because they can't read it curs.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I tested my kids yesterday. My mom wrote my birthday
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: card in cursive and all my kids, all three of
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: my kids, could read it. So somebody teaches it in Pennsylvania.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: They don't anymore.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: They've stopped it in Florida.
• 56:56
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