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Medvedev, Missouri Courts & the War Logic Behind Iran, Ukraine and Hormuz · International Flavor: Where the Truth Tastes Better

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  Hello, good morning. Welcome. I am
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  Samuel Trap. This is International
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  with an international flavor. Do you
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  know why? Because at international
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  flavor, the truth just tastes a little
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  bit better. And so we're going to speak
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  about the truth. And uh I wasn't here
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  yesterday. I wasn't feeling well. And uh
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  I I
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  bailed and I never bail. And I and I
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  bailed. I've got some things going on
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  that are stressing me out a little bit.
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  Number one, I got um I don't sleep well.
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  Number two, I got, you know, a tiny
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  health issue that I'd rather not talk
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  about, but I really need to get reviewed
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  and looked at. Um, but and I I didn't
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  make it yesterday. I just never made it.
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  And uh and I usually don't do that. I I
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  u uh you know, I realize it's it's it's
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  uh just a small time radio program, but
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  you know, I'm committed to it. I I I
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  like doing this and uh and and I I don't
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  want to not do what I say I'm going to
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  do. And so uh but I'm here today. I'm
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  here now. And so this is the positive
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  part of of discussion. And
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  I've still got So if you remember on
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  Monday, I spoke about some of the
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  ridiculousness going on in the world. I
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  talked about it from the Russian
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  perspective. I talked about it from the
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  Ukrainian perspective. I talked about it
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  from the eastern and the Chinese
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  perspective and some of the things that
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  are going on in the world particularly
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  related to the straits or moves and I
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  got some real problems and issues with
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  that which we may you know further get
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  into further on in this show but I also
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  had watched over the weekend that so on
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  the Monday show I talked about all the
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  stuff that I uh you know some of the
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  programs that I review and Soliv and his
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  uh taking you know whether you want to
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  call it propagandized or what and and
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  you know The danger that that censorship
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  causes is that
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  opinions, even if they're offensive,
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  don't get heard. Okay. Now, when you go
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  to law school and uh you know, I I don't
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  know that I recommend it anymore if you
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  want to get involved. And in Missouri, I
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  mean, Missouri is a a a show,
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  pardon my French. uh when you get in the
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  legal profession here, it's run by the
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  same old group of clowns, you know, that
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  uh uh you know, unelected uh bureaucrat
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  style people and and I I despise that
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  type of thing. And I went all the way
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  United States Supreme Court in an effort
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  to uh change it. And uh you know, that
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  didn't work. You know, who what's one
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  guy going to do? You know, not much
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  because who's going to listen? It's
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  easier to screw one guy than disrupt the
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  system. And so that's, you know, what
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  happened to me. And uh it's it's it's
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  ridiculous. I don't like it. And I'm
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  talking about it. And I'm probably going
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  to take another swing at the fences here
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  uh before too long and try to bring up
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  this issue again. And I may be headed
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  right back to the United States Supreme
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  Court on this on this uh same topic and
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  different approach. Same topic. And I'm
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  right, but being right doesn't always
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  get you anywhere, you know, doesn't
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  always get you where you want to be. Uh
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  but on Monday I was talking to you about
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  straits of horm and some of the things
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  from a different perspective and the
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  trouble is is a lot of people are you
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  know and I heard something funny now
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  don't this is not my term okay not mine
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  and I I want to talk about it there was
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  some elections that went on in Ohio
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  maybe Michigan somewhere else that they
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  were talking about and somebody was
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  doing an evaluation of the you know
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  whether or not this signals danger
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  danger danger Will Robinson for um
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  Donald Trump and uh come come October,
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  you know, and he says, oh, yesterday on
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  or or over the weekend, Monday, I talked
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  about it where he says, "Oh, gez, I got
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  this guy in Iraq elected." Nobody knew
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  him, but I endorsed him and he got done.
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  What about Victor Orbin? You sent your
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  vice president over there to politic for
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  that guy, and he got his ass handed to
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  him. You know, he's he's no longer with
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  us. Uh well, at least not in power. He's
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  with us uh uh you know, in the physical
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  sense. He's He's not dead, but he was
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  replaced. And uh that was a Trump a
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  Trump support right there. And he lost.
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  Okay. Uh now, somebody said that six out
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  of seven places um be running in Ohio
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  supported by Trump won. If so, that's a
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  good sign. You know, if that's the way
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  it is.
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  I'm of the opinion that he's not going
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  to take it well. But I heard somebody
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  analyzing this and the way they refer to
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  Trump voters to the always Trumpers. You
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  know, there's people that are never
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  Trumpers, there's people that are always
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  Trumpers, and then there's those of us
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  that in the middle. if he would just
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  shut up internationally and in a lot of
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  respects, quit being so damn offensive
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  to people and name calling them names
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  and being so I don't know what
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  narcissistic,
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  you know, but maybe you have to be that
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  to be a a president. But I I I don't
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  know. I don't like his approach. I I
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  just don't like it. You know, if you
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  can't say something nice, don't say
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  anything at all. You know what did did
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  your mom teach you that? If you can't
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  say something nice, don't say anything.
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  And the and and treating people like uh
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  you know, glorifying them when they're
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  on your side and demonizing them when
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  they're not is just wrong. And uh
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  there's there's a got to be a more
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  reasonable approach to some of this
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  stuff, at least in my opinion. Now, you
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  can have your own opinion. And what uh I
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  heard the analysis of this that the
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  Trump supporters and they the the person
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  giving this analysis said you know what
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  I mean the mouth breathers
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  the mouth breathers that that support
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  Trump always you know the the mouth
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  breathers and and you get it everybody
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  gets it when they say something like
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  that but that's offensive as well. you
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  know, you don't get to categorize people
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  and say that, you know, this is, you
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  know, they are X or Y. And uh cuz I
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  support a lot of the things that uh, you
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  know, the proTrump crowd do. And I'm
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  not, you know, I think maybe I'm
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  probably too far to the other side of
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  beating up on him for his international
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  policies. I think his international
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  policies just suck and that he's got
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  fools and idiots that are advising him
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  on these things and it's leading to
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  making things far worse, not far better.
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  And he'd like to teach children about
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  what to do when things are
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  so confrontational
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  that are just so in such bad shape. You
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  know, you got to teach your children
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  that sometimes the middle of their r
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  middle of the road um
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  is a little bit better approach and and
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  and not that to treat people in this
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  way. And sometimes you got to back off.
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  Sometimes the smarter move is resolution
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  of a crime of a any lawyers who who
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  practiced law for as long as I did have
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  a a saying that most people know. A
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  horrible deal
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  is better than
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  any judgment,
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  any jury decision, any resolution by the
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  court. And there was a great judge that
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  I used to appear in front of and I loved
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  appearing in front of this judge. And I
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  could I'll tell you a story. In fact, I
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  will tell you that story because it it
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  it is it's an awesome story about judges
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  who really are good judges. Now, there
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  are a lot of judges out there that I
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  think are just crap. You know, they
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  don't do anything. They never have done
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  anything. They don't know how to get
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  there. And and you have to teach them
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  the law. Well, that's what you're
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  supposed to do anyway. If you presume
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  that the judge knows everything, you're
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  presuming something incorrect. The judge
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  is learning about the issues that are
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  being presented just like you are. There
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  are basic rules. You know, any person
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  can do a bankruptcy, but when you go
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  through a bankruptcy, there are certain
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  things that maybe your situation is
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  different. And and lawyers are supposed
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  to educate the court as to why their
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  particular client's issues don't quite
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  fit the norm or you need to do this or
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  you need to do that. The court needs to
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  be educated both on the case and on how
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  the law applies to the case. But
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  sometimes the judge just takes it over.
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  One of the funniest stories and and and
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  this is a true story is uh when I first
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  became a lawyer, it was 2001
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  when I became a lawyer and uh I was
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  working for myself for about a year. I I
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  worked for myself cuz the pay, you know,
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  to get a job as a lawyer in Missouri. I
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  was making a hell of a lot more as an HR
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  director than I was as a than I could as
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  a lawyer, first year lawyer. I was like,
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  screw that. I'll just work for myself.
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  And I did. And uh then I started working
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  with a guy named Curtis Handrahan in uh
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  uh in Jeff City. And I love that guy. He
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  um he he was older than me by about 10
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  years, been a lawyer for a while. And
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  and we just kind of mixed together. And
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  we were together about six, seven years
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  as partners and uh I learned a ton from
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  him and uh uh and we we had a very good
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  uh organization there. Well, we had a
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  couple of other attorneys who I won't
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  name and and I like them too. They were
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  they were decent, too. But the the one I
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  generally worked with uh very closely
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  was Curtis and so and and sometime and
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  we were we were a busy law firm and uh
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  uh one of the funniest things and I
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  don't know this this excellent judge his
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  name was Byron Kinder and he was
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  fantastic. He would been on the bench
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  for a long time and I was a new lawyer
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  and uh I I barely knew him. I'd appeared
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  in front of him two, three times before,
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  but I liked appearing in front of him.
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  He was straight up. It was his
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  courtroom. He was on he was on demand on
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  the show. He was performing is what he
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  was doing. And he was a a good judge,
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  you know, and he didn't put up with crap
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  from anyone. And uh one day, and I I I
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  didn't do a lot of criminal stuff. I was
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  doing family law. and I well I hadn't
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  done I started after this point and uh
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  in Missouri you have a uh
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  you have a process so so and and and if
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  you don't understand criminal law maybe
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  you should but in criminal law what they
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  do is they you know the person is found
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  guilty is one step and then sentencing
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  is a separate step and sometimes the
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  jury can sentence you and sometimes or
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  most time you'd prefer that aud judge
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  imposed the sentence, not the jury. You
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  know, because a jury will screw you.
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  A judge might screw you, too, but you'd
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  prefer the I think you'd prefer the
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  judge because the judge the jury is a
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  total crapshoot. You you don't know what
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  the hell these people are going to do.
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  You'd much rather have a judge who, in
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  my opinion, who who actually knows
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  something and has a basis for something
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  in the past, a jury, they've never put
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  anybody in jail before. They don't know
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  what it is. And they, you know, they
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  could be, you know, pitchfork holders,
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  you know. Oh, yeah. Fry him at the
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  steak, you know. Burn them. Burn him.
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  Burn him. Anyway, I'm not a witch. I'm
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  not a witch. Well, you But you are
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  dressed as one. Well, this isn't my
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  nose. It's a false one. Well, she Well,
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  we did do the nose. The nose and the
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  hat, but she's a witch. Anyway, burn her
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  anyway. And that's what juries are like.
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  Uh, sorry to throw some Monty Python in
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  there, but uh uh at any rate, I go one
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  day I am in court on a civil matter in a
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  different courtroom in Cole County
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  courthouse and there's four or five
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  courtrooms, four or five different
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  judges, and every once in a while you'd
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  have to run from one courtroom to the
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  other courtroom. And I get a call from
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  Curtis and Curtis says, "One of our
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  other guys," and I won't name him. He
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  says, "One of our other guys has a
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  client uh appearing in front of Judge
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  Kinder and he's not going to be there.
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  Will you go appear?" I said, "Well, I
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  said it's if it's a criminal matter. I
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  don't know what the hell I'm doing. I've
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  haven't, you know, this he goes, it's
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  just a a a sentencing hearing. It's a
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  felony sentencing hearing. his client is
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  going to be there and the judge is going
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  to sentence him. All you got to do is
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  stay. I said, "This lady doesn't even
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  know me." You know, I said, "I can't go
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  in there and appear for her lawyer." He
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  goes, "You got to go do it. We have
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  nobody else. You know, you got to go get
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  there." And uh so I said, "All right,
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  this and Judge Kinder knew me and he
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  knew I didn't know any of this crap."
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  And uh we w I walk in and uh there's a a
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  lady. So the baiff brings out this lady.
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  She's in chains and she's in a uh a a
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  prison, not a prison, a jail jumpsuit.
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  You know, she's dressed in orange and
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  she's in chains when they bring her up
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  and uh uh she is coming up there and all
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  you're going to do is get in front of
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  the judge and the judge is going to
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  sentence her, right? Which means that
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  they have done a a a packet, a research
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  packet on her and they know who she is.
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  the probation and parole officer or
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  parole board or whoever will have
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  reviewed her past and her history and
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  whatever she's done and there's there's
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  all kinds of things that they go into to
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  review this person and put them in
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  prison and or let them off the hook and
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  the judge has the power to do basically
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  whatever he wants. There's some minimum
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  sentencing. there's some other things
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  that he has to apply. But but there's
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  all these rules that go into it that a
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  criminal person will know. But by this
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  point, the judge has already seen all of
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  that and it arguably was a very safe
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  thing. But, you know, I don't know what
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  sort of statement I could possibly make
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  on this woman's behalf, right? I didn't
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  even have a file, you know, I had
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  nothing. And I Curtis is like, "Well,
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  you got to do it. There's nobody else,
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  you know, and and you can tell the
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  judge." And so, uh, it was it was
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  comical because I went in there and, uh,
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  they called her name. They brought her
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  out from where, you know, what the jail
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  cell in the back of the court, you know,
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  cuz they're sales cells back there where
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  they hold people while they wait for the
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  sentencing. And it was a big day. The
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  courtroom was full. There were a lot of
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  people being sentenced or having motion
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  hearings or whatever. And uh, so I I
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  come in and the judge says, "Who's
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  appearing for soand so?" And the
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  prosecutor says, "Well, this is this is
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  for sentencing, judge." And I walk up
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  and he goes, "Trap like,"Yes, judge." He
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  goes, "I didn't know you do criminal
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  stuff." I said, "I don't."
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  And he says, "Well," and and he says,
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  "Are you going to have anything to say
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  for her?" I said, "Well, just what I was
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  told, you know, from Curtis, you know,
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  and company is the following." And I
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  told him a little a little blurb. The
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  lady comes out, the baoiff drags her out
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  from the the cell behind the behind the
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  court courtroom and drags her into the
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  courtroom. And this is the big main
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  courtroom in uh uh Cole County
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  courthouse.
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  And uh there I stand next to a lady
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  who's looking at me like, "Who the hell
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  is this guy?" You know, and I Well, I'm
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  your lawyer. Oh, where's so and so?
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  Where's my lawyer? And uh I was like,
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  "Well, he couldn't make it here. I'm
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  here." And uh so uh we I don't know why
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  I'm telling you this stupid story, but
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  it it's uh there I stood and the the the
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  judge says he says, "All right, um
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  prosecutor, what are you looking for?"
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  And the prosecutor says, "Well, I want
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  her put away for and it was a large
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  number of years like uh you know, she's
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  done this many felonies and she has this
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  and she has that." And uh I don't
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  remember the exact numbers of years that
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  they were putting her away for. I just
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  remember the the generals of the story.
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  And uh and so the the prosecutor says
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  what she's going to say and then I say
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  and I've had, you know, a couple of
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  minutes to review this uh probation and
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  parole report, which is quite thick. And
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  she had quite the past, a long past. And
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  uh so uh I had gone through it and I was
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  like, man, this lady's fried. I'm just
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  going to string her up, you know. And it
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  was like a drug charge of some sort, you
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  know, it was a drug charge and and she
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  had a long and colored history. And so
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  when the judge gets to me goes, "Well,
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  Mr. Trap, what do you have to say?" I
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  said, "Well, judge, you know, this is uh
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  so and so and uh you know, the report
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  the report was actually reasonably
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  favorable, but the court report
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  recommended that she be put away for the
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  maximum amount of years." and and let's
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  say that that number of years was uh to
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  10, you know, and and and I don't
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  remember, but it was a good amount. She
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  had multiple counts in there. And so I
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  do the best that I can with limited
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  information. And the, you know, at this
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  point, the judge has already decided
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  what he's going to do anyway. He reviews
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  all these files. When you bring them in,
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  he's letting you give your arguments.
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  And I was really a little offended that
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  the real attorney didn't show up. And uh
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  I think that one of the things, well, I
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  won't say what I think what really
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  happened there, but but it was pretty
• 18:14
  comical. And uh so I say what I'm going
• 18:18
  to say and uh that he says to the lady,
• 18:21
  he said, "Do you have anything to say
• 18:23
  for yourself?" And she goes, "Well,
• 18:25
  judge, I've changed. I've been with I've
• 18:27
  gone I've I've I've been in the custody
• 18:30
  of the church. You know, I I have worked
• 18:32
  with the church and some church in St.
• 18:35
  Louis. You know, she's from St. Louis
• 18:37
  area. And this is Jefferson City where
• 18:40
  she was charged with the crime. And uh
• 18:43
  she if she hadn't have been running with
• 18:45
  the wrong people in Jefferson City, she
• 18:47
  wouldn't be where she is. And and she
• 18:49
  got to say her piece, which is what she
• 18:51
  wanted to do anyway. And so she got to
• 18:54
  say her piece. And the judge says looks
• 18:56
  at her and he goes, and I don't remember
• 18:57
  the actual exact number of years that he
• 18:59
  was gone. He says, "Well, I'm going to
• 19:02
  sentence you." He said, "You're going to
• 19:04
  go in to jail in the Department of the
• 19:09
  Corrections of the State of Missouri for
• 19:11
  a period of seven." No, no, no. I'm
• 19:14
  sorry. For a period of 5 years. And I'm
• 19:16
  thinking, well, that's not that, you
• 19:18
  know, that's far better than what it
• 19:19
  was. And um he said, "I'm going to put
• 19:22
  you there, Baleiff. you know, you can
• 19:24
  take her into custody and um you know,
• 19:28
  we're going to transport her to the
• 19:30
  prison. Well, she collapses on the floor
• 19:32
  and starts wailing. Oh, and all of a
• 19:35
  sudden, a dude in the back of the room,
• 19:37
  a big black bald guy stands up in the
• 19:40
  back of the room and in a deep uh um
• 19:44
  Luther Vandross or uh uh who who some of
• 19:47
  your honor, could I could I speak on
• 19:50
  sister so and so's behalf? And the judge
• 19:53
  looks up at him, sees him come up, goes,
• 19:55
  "Who the hell are you?"
• 19:58
  "Judge Kinder, who the hell are you?"
• 20:00
  And she he goes, "Well, judge, I'm her
• 20:02
  pastor." And uh and and and Judge Kinder
• 20:07
  didn't miss a beat. He goes He goes,
• 20:09
  "Well, come on up here. Come on up
• 20:12
  here." He goes, "We got her, pastor." He
• 20:15
  says, "Bring Well, come on up here. We
• 20:17
  got to hear from you." And I swear to
• 20:19
  God, this pastor in a purple suit comes
• 20:22
  walking up and he he was huge and he was
• 20:25
  bald and he was a big black man and he
• 20:28
  looked really cool is all I remember. He
• 20:30
  looked freaking cool. And I was like,
• 20:32
  "Now that's a pastor, you know." And he
• 20:34
  walked up and he goes, "Well," and judge
• 20:36
  goes, "Well, by all means, tell us what
• 20:39
  you want to tell us." And he goes,
• 20:41
  "Well, your honor," he goes, "Sister so
• 20:43
  and so has been with us at the church in
• 20:47
  uh uh St. Louis since she had her bad
• 20:50
  times down here in Jefferson City." And
• 20:52
  through the period of her bond, she's
• 20:54
  been coming to the church every week.
• 20:56
  And she's been doing this and uh uh
• 20:59
  coming and and he he went on in a in a
• 21:02
  in a great oration doing a far better
• 21:04
  job than I did of taking care of this
• 21:06
  lady. And uh he goes uh and and and sis,
• 21:10
  you know, we would like the court to
• 21:12
  remand Sister so and so to my custody.
• 21:16
  He goes, "And let the church take care
• 21:19
  of her." And the judge looks at him and
• 21:21
  he goes, "Uh, are you finished?" And he
• 21:24
  goes, "Yes, your honor." He goes, and he
• 21:27
  goes, and remember the judge had
• 21:29
  sentenced her to four, I think, you know
• 21:31
  what? I think it was four that he
• 21:33
  sentenced her to four years. And she
• 21:36
  would have had to serve 85% of that
• 21:38
  under the rules at the time, you know,
• 21:40
  because uh well,
• 21:43
  because of what she had, she knew she
• 21:45
  was going in for a while and uh uh you
• 21:48
  know, and she was already in handcuffs
• 21:50
  and the baoiff was standing there with
• 21:51
  her while this was going on and they
• 21:53
  were getting ready to cart her off to
• 21:55
  the Department of Corrections. And uh
• 21:57
  you know, I'm feeling like an idiot. You
• 21:59
  know, I don't know what the hell's going
• 22:00
  on. And uh I mean I do but it but it was
• 22:04
  and you know there's nothing I could
• 22:05
  have done about it anyway nor any other
• 22:07
  attorney except and I and and and by the
• 22:09
  way I did ask the judge to pass the
• 22:11
  matter until uh you know her attorney
• 22:14
  showed up and he said he wasn't going to
• 22:16
  do that. He goes I'll deal with him
• 22:18
  later
• 22:20
  is what he said. And uh uh he goes
• 22:23
  anyway he uh remember he had sentenced
• 22:26
  her to to call it and I believe this is
• 22:28
  accurate. He sentenced her to four years
• 22:31
  and he could have sentenced her to four
• 22:32
  anywhere between four and seven and he
• 22:35
  gave her the minimum which was four. And
• 22:38
  so
• 22:39
  uh then after the pastor spoke he says
• 22:42
  uh uh he goes well Mrs. So and so he
• 22:45
  goes your pastor is is really speaking
• 22:48
  for you. So I tell you what I'm going to
• 22:50
  do. He said after that beautiful oration
• 22:53
  from your pastor there's somebody that
• 22:55
  cares about you. So you know what I'm
• 22:57
  going to do? He says, "I'm gonna
• 22:59
  sentence you to seven years in the
• 23:01
  Department of Corrections." He said,
• 23:04
  "I'm gonna send you to seven years." And
• 23:06
  she starts whailing. And he goes, "Now
• 23:08
  hold on a second, sister."
• 23:11
  He says, "Hold on a second, sister. I'm
• 23:14
  going to uh" He goes, "But?" He said,
• 23:16
  "There's a butt here." He says, "I'm
• 23:19
  going to tell you the following." He
• 23:21
  goes, "I'm going to remand you to the
• 23:24
  custody of your pastor." He said, "You
• 23:29
  are on probation." Can you believe that?
• 23:32
  He gave her probation. Now, she was
• 23:35
  going down. There is no doubt this woman
• 23:38
  was going down. And this report was
• 23:41
  quite brutal to her. And and by the way,
• 23:44
  he had read through the whole report. He
• 23:46
  goes, "Well, here's what you got." And
• 23:48
  it was a long list. He goes, "You got
• 23:51
  drug charges, you know, 15 years ago.
• 23:53
  You got uh felony assault charges. You
• 23:56
  got felony this, felony that, felony bad
• 23:59
  check writing. And he he gave a whole
• 24:01
  litany of things and but most of them
• 24:04
  were more than 5 years in the past. And
• 24:07
  then she had this relapse, right? And
• 24:10
  so, you know, the the the report was
• 24:12
  saying, well, you could um you know,
• 24:15
  since it is a drug charge, you know,
• 24:17
  people have drug problems and they they
• 24:19
  sometimes don't, you know, know what the
• 24:20
  hell they're doing because of drugs and
• 24:22
  blah blah blah. And uh but anyway, I I
• 24:25
  didn't know her well enough to to to
• 24:27
  have a real stand in that thing. And it
• 24:29
  looked like she was going to get fried
• 24:31
  on paper. And for sure she was. And she
• 24:33
  actually did. She got four years. Then
• 24:35
  her pastor spoke and the judge gave her
• 24:37
  seven. And he said, "You have seven
• 24:40
  years, but I'm going to remand you to
• 24:42
  the custody of your pastor, but if you
• 24:45
  screw up, you will serve every day of
• 24:49
  that seven years." He goes, "I'll hold
• 24:51
  that over your head and you can thank
• 24:53
  your pastor that you're not uh going to
• 24:56
  prison today. Baleiff, uncuff her." And
• 25:00
  he let her walk out the door. Now, you
• 25:03
  got to honor a judge like that. And uh
• 25:06
  uh in all seriousness, he was he was a
• 25:08
  unique and interesting and wonderful
• 25:12
  person as well as a judge. You know,
• 25:16
  there were stories about they attacked
• 25:18
  him. You know, there were a lot of
• 25:20
  people that hated him and the cops
• 25:22
  followed him just like they did me and
• 25:24
  they got him with for a DWI once during
• 25:28
  an election period. And uh and you you
• 25:32
  could get a lot of that crowd, the court
• 25:35
  crowd on on on charges like that. And
• 25:38
  the way I heard the story was and and I
• 25:41
  know he you know he just went in he was
• 25:43
  on the front page like the you know a
• 25:45
  few days later because it was such a big
• 25:47
  deal they front paged him and try to
• 25:49
  hurt him and you know what he did very
• 25:51
  first day he just went in and pleaded
• 25:53
  guilty and the story was gone and uh so
• 25:56
  there's something to be said about that.
• 25:58
  Anyway, that was a long and story that I
• 26:01
  had no intention of telling today and I
• 26:03
  was only telling it because if you're
• 26:05
  trusting the court system, you you h you
• 26:07
  have to understand that the court system
• 26:10
  is based upon personalities, too. And
• 26:13
  Judge Byron Kinder, and I don't know
• 26:15
  what his status is. I apologize, but
• 26:17
  I'll bet you anything the man has
• 26:19
  probably passed away some time ago. And
• 26:21
  he was some 30 years on the bench
• 26:24
  anyway. And uh he was a unique and
• 26:27
  wonderful judge in my op opinion and I
• 26:29
  learned a lot from him over the times
• 26:31
  that I appeared in front of him. And
• 26:33
  there are judges like that and there are
• 26:34
  also judges who couldn't find their ass
• 26:37
  with two hands and a map. And those
• 26:40
  people have to be coached ex led through
• 26:44
  the you know he was on the bench for 30
• 26:46
  years. He knew stuff. There are people
• 26:48
  who don't know crap. They never knew
• 26:50
  crap. They they they don't want to know
• 26:52
  crap. All they want is the power. And
• 26:53
  there are plenty of them around, too.
• 26:55
  So, you got to know the judge that
• 26:57
  you're going to be in front of. And so,
• 26:58
  you got to know how the system actually
• 27:00
  works. And how the system actually works
• 27:02
  is sometimes there's a lot of
• 27:03
  personalities and sometimes there are
• 27:05
  people who control things in the
• 27:08
  courtroom. You can say it doesn't exist,
• 27:10
  but it does. And there are people that
• 27:13
  are hated in the court process. I happen
• 27:16
  to be one of them. And those people need
• 27:18
  to be silenced, shut up, shut out. And
• 27:21
  that's what the Missouri system is built
• 27:24
  upon. Silencing those who have anything,
• 27:28
  you know, critical to say about anything
• 27:30
  and glorifying the do nothing crowd. And
• 27:34
  uh that, you know, the ones who couldn't
• 27:36
  make couldn't make a living practicing
• 27:38
  law unless they were somehow involved in
• 27:41
  the system. And that that that
• 27:43
  unfortunately is true as well. So when I
• 27:48
  speak about the the legal system in the
• 27:50
  state of Missouri and the backwardness
• 27:52
  of this idiotic u way that we select
• 27:56
  judges, this nonpartisan judicial
• 27:58
  selection that I talk about and
• 28:00
  sometimes uh uh discuss in depth, um you
• 28:05
  should take that as truth because it is
• 28:08
  and uh you don't have to believe it each
• 28:10
  and every time, but you should know who
• 28:12
  the people are and the potential people
• 28:14
  involved in any case that you're
• 28:16
  involved with in the courthouse and
• 28:18
  understand that you need to have someone
• 28:20
  who's going to back you up no matter
• 28:23
  what. And a lot of lawyers are nothing
• 28:25
  but pansies and they'll never back you
• 28:27
  up. They're in there to get rid of your
• 28:29
  case and to make it through stuff and so
• 28:32
  and the court, you know, can shuffle
• 28:34
  people through and take care of things,
• 28:36
  you know, and there's plenty plenty
• 28:39
  good. We have a great system, but don't
• 28:41
  kid yourself that the system is perfect
• 28:44
  cuz it's far from that. And I don't know
• 28:47
  why I got on that little diet tribe this
• 28:49
  morning, but I hope hope you found it
• 28:51
  interesting. And our system
• 28:55
  is our system. And I like to talk about
• 29:00
  systems and the way they operate and how
• 29:03
  they how you
• 29:07
  manage your pathway through such
• 29:10
  systems. I generally do that on civic
• 29:12
  outlaws on Friday mornings when we talk
• 29:15
  about you know how this power shouldn't
• 29:17
  be stolen and this law doesn't really
• 29:19
  mean that. And you know, I give my
• 29:21
  opinions pretty brutally honestly when I
• 29:24
  give them and we talk about them. And
• 29:26
  then I talk about other people's
• 29:28
  systems. And just because they have a
• 29:30
  different system doesn't mean that an
• 29:33
  ordinary citizen doesn't have the same
• 29:36
  meandering through the system to get to
• 29:38
  where you want. All all system
• 29:42
  corruption is not system corruption.
• 29:44
  Corruption is an individual deal and
• 29:47
  only is allowed to take root when people
• 29:49
  live in the positions of power that they
• 29:52
  live in. And I I talked to you about um
• 29:55
  my my theory on no lifetime politicians
• 29:59
  and I believe that no lifetime
• 30:01
  bureaucrats. I definitely believe that
• 30:04
  and I think there ought to be limits all
• 30:06
  the way across the board. However, if
• 30:09
  you have a system like China, like
• 30:11
  Russia, like many other countries where
• 30:13
  leaders stay in power and don't have
• 30:15
  term limits and they go through them,
• 30:17
  you end up with a different system. And
• 30:20
  I told you on Monday that we were going
• 30:22
  to talk about the system and and youth
• 30:26
  and what people think and growing up
• 30:28
  under a different system and what people
• 30:31
  have done in Russia growing up. And I
• 30:33
  started out with talking about um
• 30:37
  Dimmitri Midviv. And Dmitri Midviv is a
• 30:40
  former president of Russia. He uh so
• 30:42
  Putin was president for a while. Midviv
• 30:44
  beat him um in a in a middle and he did
• 30:47
  five years and then Putin won again. But
• 30:50
  Medved is still highly placed in the uh
• 30:53
  uh government in Russia. And Medved is a
• 30:56
  blunt and very intelligent person. And I
• 31:00
  told you the other day that I watched a
• 31:03
  uh um
• 31:05
  uh I can't remember the word. I want to
• 31:07
  say it in Russian, but uh uh conference,
• 31:10
  I suppose, would be the best way to put
• 31:11
  it in English. And and it was an
• 31:13
  appearance in front of the youth of
• 31:17
  education, you know, educational
• 31:20
  uh forum is what it was. It was an
• 31:23
  education forum with students that uh
• 31:26
  were in college, were in high school.
• 31:28
  The youngest he talked to was like a
• 31:30
  ninth grade student. And uh I'm going to
• 31:32
  play a song for you and then we're going
• 31:36
  to discuss Dimmitri Midv's appearance
• 31:40
  and a translation of the questions that
• 31:42
  they asked him because I think these
• 31:44
  similar questions and having something
• 31:46
  like this in America would be very
• 31:48
  useful to have a forum of kids. Uh my
• 31:51
  son William uh won a won an event when
• 31:54
  he was in fifth grade, six sixth grade
• 31:58
  and he got a free trip to Washington DC
• 32:00
  and I chose to go with him and uh I went
• 32:03
  to I forget what it was called young
• 32:05
  leaders or something like that and he
• 32:08
  won a he won this trip and uh I went
• 32:12
  with him because I thought it was really
• 32:13
  cool and they had something similar. So
• 32:16
  I'm not saying in America we don't have
• 32:19
  these things. And this Will's Will, my
• 32:21
  son Will, he was involved in one at a
• 32:24
  very young age, you know, and and he won
• 32:26
  this trip to Washington DC from the
• 32:28
  school in Jefferson City and I took him
• 32:31
  and I got to participate with him. There
• 32:33
  were a few other parents that went as
• 32:35
  well, but most of it was just the the
• 32:36
  the 15 20 kids from around the state of
• 32:39
  Missouri that uh got to go to this um uh
• 32:43
  leadership or whatever it was called. I
• 32:44
  can't remember what it was called. and
• 32:46
  Will was one of them. And it was really
• 32:48
  interesting because they did have a
• 32:49
  question and answer period with people
• 32:50
  that that mattered and it was really
• 32:52
  cool and it's hard to get to there. I
• 32:54
  assume that this education uh group was
• 32:58
  very similar and had kids that had won
• 33:01
  things uh you know a competition to get
• 33:03
  there. You know, they're very limited
• 33:04
  seating to get into these things. And I
• 33:08
  uh I thought it would be interesting to
• 33:10
  talk about some of the questions and
• 33:12
  answers that he had and in particular
• 33:15
  after my long story uh uh you know war
• 33:18
  story about you and a really pretty cool
• 33:21
  one. You know, I remember going back to
• 33:23
  the office and uh Curtis going, "So,
• 33:25
  what happened?" And the lawyer who who
• 33:27
  was supposed to appear, who came, he was
• 33:30
  back by that time, and he comes in and I
• 33:32
  and I remember going into the office
• 33:34
  said, "Man, what happened with soand so
• 33:36
  I was like, and I took I took all the
• 33:38
  credit. I said, "Oh my god, you guys, I
• 33:40
  got her probation.
• 33:42
  I got her probation." And there, what?
• 33:45
  You know, nobody could believe this
• 33:46
  woman was going to prison, you know, and
• 33:48
  I got her probation. I didn't get her
• 33:50
  probation. I didn't have anything to do
• 33:52
  with that. I was the fool standing up
• 33:54
  there covering for her real lawyer. And
• 33:57
  uh uh that was anyway it was and Judge
• 33:59
  Kinder did in my view the right thing
• 34:01
  and he was good man, good judge and uh
• 34:04
  uh people hated him, some hated, some
• 34:06
  loved him. I thought I was on the I love
• 34:08
  him side because he controlled what he
• 34:11
  was doing and he made no bones about it.
• 34:13
  You know, you could agree, you could
• 34:14
  disagree, but this is where he was going
• 34:16
  and he was blunt about it. That's how I
• 34:18
  feel about life. you know, I say say
• 34:20
  what I mean, say what I believe, and if
• 34:22
  you don't like it, I I'm okay with that.
• 34:24
  You know, you you come back and explain
• 34:26
  to me why. And if you educate me why,
• 34:29
  fine. You know, I'm okay. But it's not
• 34:31
  just because you say so or you have a
• 34:34
  different opinion. I I honor your
• 34:36
  opinion. I honor your structure. You
• 34:39
  should honor mine. And if the two don't
• 34:41
  match, somebody will make a decision
• 34:42
  that is a plus or a minus on a board.
• 34:45
  That isn't anything else other than
• 34:47
  that. And that doesn't mean we have to
• 34:49
  be enemies to each other or anything
• 34:51
  like that. We have a disagreement. You
• 34:54
  let those cards fall where they fall and
• 34:56
  we'll get a judge like Judge Kinder or
• 34:58
  we'll get some other I don't know what
• 35:00
  lesser judge uh that uh doesn't know
• 35:03
  what the hell he's doing and that is
• 35:05
  fearful. But those exist just like the
• 35:08
  great ones do. There's a lot of weak
• 35:10
  judges out there as well. You need to
• 35:13
  educate them. and this u m medvveetive
• 35:15
  appearance
• 35:17
  and complete question and answer summary
• 35:19
  that I'm going to provide to you. I'm
• 35:20
  doing that because it it's a different
• 35:22
  perspective and I hope you enjoy it. But
• 35:24
  before we get to that, I'm going to go
• 35:26
  back to um Alex Brians and uh Arena Kru
• 35:32
  and we're going to listen to um
• 35:40
  I think it's that one and but I'm not
• 35:42
  positive. I like that song and I can't
• 35:44
  remember what it's called. Um um but but
• 35:47
  oh uh boy as if we're still together um
• 35:52
  is is what the name is of that song and
• 35:54
  I'm going to play that for you just
• 35:56
  because I like the beat and hopefully uh
• 35:58
  you'll enjoy it. Let's see where is it.
• 36:02
  Let us begin at the beginning. And it
• 36:04
  might be a different song too, but I
• 36:06
  believe this is uh Kakuda Mua.
• 36:11
  And uh I I don't know why, but I just
• 36:13
  really like this song and the beat. And
• 36:15
  I also like the deep voice of this uh
• 36:17
  Russian kid.
• 36:20
  He sounds a little bit like uh uh
• 36:22
  Vladimir Votszki who uh well, we'll get
• 36:25
  into him later, but here we go.
• 36:32
  boy as if we're still together, you
• 36:34
  know, we're still together. And I like
• 36:37
  that song. So, that is a story song
• 36:39
  actually. Um, and it's a story
• 36:42
  basically. Two people meet um they run
• 36:45
  into each other and they actually know
• 36:48
  each other and uh they dated years
• 36:52
  before. You get all this from the story.
• 36:55
  and uh you know he offers to walk her
• 36:58
  home and they why aren't we together?
• 37:00
  Whatever happened you know and u the the
• 37:04
  prep of the um the chorus is it's as if
• 37:08
  we're still together and and we didn't
• 37:12
  drift apart. It's as if we were still um
• 37:15
  it's as if you waited for me. He says,
• 37:17
  "You waited for me." And she said, "It's
• 37:20
  as if you searched for me." You know,
• 37:22
  and they're and they're going back and
• 37:24
  forth the whole time. It's it's actually
• 37:26
  a cool song. And uh uh anyway, I know
• 37:29
  I've played it a few times on here
• 37:30
  before. And uh in the end, you know, she
• 37:33
  invites him up for tea and uh uh they,
• 37:37
  you know, get together and say, you
• 37:38
  know, why why were we ever apart in the
• 37:41
  first place? So, it's kind of a cool
• 37:43
  It's kind of a cool song. Anyway, I like
• 37:45
  it. And uh uh sorry to throw it upon you
• 37:47
  if you don't understand the words, but I
• 37:50
  do. And it's a good song. And uh I and I
• 37:52
  like the beat and I like how they put
• 37:54
  that artistry together with the uh what
• 37:58
  do you what do you call it? It's not a
• 38:00
  solo. It's a two people.
• 38:03
  It would be a trio. What's the two? A
• 38:05
  bio? No, I don't know. It's a It's a
• 38:07
  couple singing a song. A duo. They're a
• 38:10
  duo. That's what the word is. It's not a
• 38:13
  bio. It's a duo. And uh so anyway, there
• 38:16
  you have it. And there's some news I do
• 38:18
  want to get to uh world news like uh you
• 38:22
  know and some opinion on the world news.
• 38:25
  This is what superpowers has to have to
• 38:28
  learn. It's an opinion, an analysis must
• 38:30
  learn from the US war against Iran. Uh
• 38:33
  the western circus, the caucus' circus,
• 38:36
  the Yeravan summit and how does it look
• 38:39
  from Moscow. Turkeykey's unveiling its
• 38:42
  first ICBMs. Um, Israel assault on
• 38:44
  Lebanon. What's really behind it? Pro
• 38:47
  Palestinian activists convicted in the
• 38:49
  UK. Uh, Germany has never fully been
• 38:52
  denazified.
• 38:53
  That's an interesting piece. And I've
• 38:55
  read most of these opinion parts.
• 38:57
  America is having a surprising church
• 39:00
  revival. People going back to church.
• 39:02
  Uh, here's why India Iran is sovereign
• 39:05
  and Germany is not. This is an
• 39:07
  interesting one. From subhumans to orcs.
• 39:10
  how Nazi race theory lives on in Ukraine
• 39:15
  on modern rousophobia and what they call
• 39:18
  them. You know, Russians are referred to
• 39:19
  as subhuman or orcs all over Ukraine and
• 39:23
  what they talk to them. They call them
• 39:24
  orcs or uh definitely less than human.
• 39:28
  And uh Zalinski's done it quite a few
• 39:30
  times himself. We might get to how Iran
• 39:33
  rolled out the new hormuz rules where we
• 39:35
  get to but today I'm going to finish
• 39:37
  with Dmitri Midvetives. I think it'll
• 39:40
  take me probably the rest of the rest of
• 39:42
  the program to get through what he was
• 39:44
  because I think it's important and uh I
• 39:46
  think it's important to understand how
• 39:48
  the
• 39:50
  you know what people are looking at in
• 39:52
  other parts of the world and they're
• 39:54
  looking forward much like my son's um
• 39:58
  uh trip where he went to the young
• 40:01
  leaders or whatever it was that we went
• 40:03
  to in Washington DC when he was in fifth
• 40:05
  or sixth grade. They they they really do
• 40:10
  focus on youth in a lot of respects in
• 40:12
  Russia and they have these conferences
• 40:14
  all the time and they bring some big
• 40:16
  names in there. Now I assume it's only
• 40:20
  the select,
• 40:22
  you know, very good students and uh
• 40:24
  people that uh have parents or whatever
• 40:26
  in powerful spots that are getting uh
• 40:29
  these uh invites. I assume it's similar
• 40:32
  to what to what goes on here.
• 40:36
  Um, you know, in a lot of respects. Oh,
• 40:38
  damn it. Now I've Now I'm on the wrong
• 40:42
  thing and I gotta roll back to where the
• 40:45
  hell I was and get to I'm not a I'm not
• 40:50
  I'm not a good mouse user. And so we're
• 40:53
  going to go back to Dimmitri Midv and
• 40:58
  his questions. And there are 14 or 15 of
• 41:00
  them. I may not bring them all up, but
• 41:02
  this is what they were they think about.
• 41:05
  And he when he started his uh
• 41:09
  uh visuplenia his uh
• 41:13
  uh commentary in the beginning of this
• 41:16
  large conference hall full of students,
• 41:19
  teachers, people in education and
• 41:22
  involved in education. He introduced
• 41:25
  himself um well first he was introduced
• 41:28
  you know as the deputy chairman of the
• 41:30
  security council of Russia and he uh
• 41:34
  stood up he got the audience um you know
• 41:38
  in front of the audience and he noted
• 41:39
  that it was a very large crowd and it
• 41:41
  was and he had prepared an article ahead
• 41:44
  of Russia's great national holiday. Now
• 41:47
  that's coming up. We're on May 6th. It's
• 41:50
  three days away. It's victory day. This
• 41:52
  is the de the den poi uh when they um
• 41:56
  focus on the processes unfolding in
• 41:59
  Europe especially after the tetanaya the
• 42:03
  u great patriotic war which is what they
• 42:06
  call world war II the great patriotic
• 42:09
  war because every family in Russia was
• 42:12
  touched by this every family in the
• 42:14
  Soviet Union which includes places like
• 42:16
  Georgia like Kazakhstan like Pakistan
• 42:20
  when I toured those countries
• 42:22
  They had the same monuments that were
• 42:24
  all over Russia when 26 million people
• 42:28
  are killed in a military action. Trust
• 42:30
  me, people are affected. The whole
• 42:32
  country was only, you know, 1.1 million.
• 42:36
  And so, uh, it was there. Hang hang on
• 42:39
  one second. Let's see what we got here.
• 42:42
  We have ourselves a caller. And let us
• 42:46
  see if I can uh, maybe there's a
• 42:49
  question from this caller. caller. What
• 42:51
  can I do for you?
• 42:55
  >> Jimmy Tibo is a pedophile.
• 42:58
  >> Okay. Well, I appreciate that. Um, great
• 43:03
  commentary. Good for Jimmy TBO. I What
• 43:06
  the hell are you calling my show for?
• 43:08
  Call his Call his show. And uh uh that
• 43:12
  Well, I got sucked in, didn't I? Um, so
• 43:16
  sometimes I reject the calls and maybe I
• 43:18
  should have rejected that one. And I
• 43:20
  don't know who the hell that is, but uh
• 43:21
  what difference does it make? Um
• 43:26
  I can't help but a laugh. That's a
• 43:28
  frightening thing, but there you go. Do
• 43:30
  that on somebody else's show. I I'm
• 43:32
  think I'm going to cut that out of the
• 43:34
  show. Ah, no, I won't. I'll leave it in
• 43:36
  there. Whatever. And uh um
• 43:40
  guess he made it through. That's why
• 43:42
  they have screeners on huge radio
• 43:44
  programs. And I I don't have a screener.
• 43:46
  It's just me. So you get to come up and
• 43:48
  talk about whatever you want. Anyway,
• 43:49
  let's talk about youth and u the uh uh
• 43:55
  appearance of Dmitri Midv um chairman of
• 43:58
  the security council. He said he had
• 44:00
  prepared a an article that he had
• 44:02
  written ahead of the uh national holiday
• 44:05
  for victory day denied which focused on
• 44:08
  processes unfolding in Europe, the
• 44:11
  militarization of Europe, which he's
• 44:13
  against. and he says he hopes the
• 44:15
  article will be received and published
• 44:17
  shortly, but he didn't want to read it
• 44:19
  to people and he decided he wasn't going
• 44:20
  to formally present it and he wanted to
• 44:22
  get straight to the discussions that are
• 44:24
  less formal, more interactive, direct
• 44:27
  question and answer exchange with the
• 44:29
  audience. This is why I liked it so
• 44:32
  much. This is what people are thinking
• 44:34
  about if they get to talk to a real live
• 44:38
  bigwig in the place of Russia. This
• 44:40
  would be like a group of school students
• 44:42
  getting up and being able to talk to um
• 44:46
  a national a senator, a national uh you
• 44:51
  know a judge, who knows what a big name
• 44:55
  in politics and that's what was going on
• 44:58
  at this um conference.
• 45:01
  And the first question was and he jumped
• 45:04
  right into the questions and a student
• 45:06
  named Ramadan asked Midvetive whether
• 45:10
  over his long political career his
• 45:12
  understanding of external threats had
• 45:15
  changed. He also asked what Midvetive
• 45:18
  thought uh about differently but now he
• 45:21
  sees a different way based on his
• 45:23
  experiences in um in government and
• 45:27
  politics. Now that was a pretty good
• 45:30
  question. I'm sure they were prepar I
• 45:32
  mean they absolutely were prepared in
• 45:34
  advance. Maybe they were given to him. I
• 45:37
  doubt it. It it did not appear that way
• 45:40
  that that what he got. I believe these
• 45:42
  are off the cuff as are most of these
• 45:44
  sorts of things. Another person who does
• 45:46
  these types of conferences uh frequently
• 45:50
  is u uh Porter Shanka.
• 45:53
  So Portoinka what is his name? I think I
• 45:56
  got the wrong name there. Um, Luca
• 45:59
  Shenko. What? Now I gotta look it up.
• 46:02
  Uh, because I don't want to give the
• 46:04
  wrong name. And uh, but I like listening
• 46:08
  to this guy too because he is the Yeah,
• 46:10
  it is Luca Shanka and uh, uh, not Porto
• 46:13
  Shanka. That guy was a Ukrainian, but
• 46:15
  uh, Alexander Luca Shanka is an
• 46:18
  economist, a teacher, a farmer. Um, he
• 46:22
  uh, is um the leader of Bellarus. Okay.
• 46:27
  and uh he does this type of thing.
• 46:29
  Midvive does this type of thing and and
• 46:31
  lot this this happens frequently and
• 46:34
  they're not afraid to take questions.
• 46:36
  Okay, they're just not and so sometimes
• 46:39
  it's uh interesting to see what what
• 46:41
  what was Midvid's answer to what he had
• 46:43
  learned over the years uh regarding
• 46:45
  external threats and he says that uh his
• 46:48
  understanding uh changed would be an
• 46:52
  understatement. He says that anyone
• 46:54
  everyone changes with age and
• 46:56
  experience. I can tell you that I'm a
• 46:57
  different person today than I was in my
• 47:00
  youth. Uh but the issue is deeper than
• 47:02
  personal aging. After the collapse of
• 47:05
  the Soviet Union, he said almost
• 47:07
  everyone in Russia from state leaders to
• 47:10
  ordinary citizens looked at relations
• 47:12
  with neighbors and the Western world
• 47:15
  through rosecoled glasses. They were
• 47:18
  very very positive as was I in the 90s
• 47:22
  after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
• 47:25
  Our approach to Russia and the collapse
• 47:28
  of the Soviet Union was horrible.
• 47:33
  Ter just unbelievable. We were pirates.
• 47:37
  We went over there and stole everything
• 47:39
  that we could steal and uh we went over
• 47:42
  there and basically raped that country
• 47:46
  uh for years uh monetarily and every
• 47:49
  other way. Treated them like crap.
• 47:51
  You're reaping what you sow is what's
• 47:54
  happening right now. And where the
• 47:57
  opposite approach would have led to a
• 47:59
  very different result. But we're we we
• 48:03
  don't do that. We we we won. We need to
• 48:06
  go continue to kick them while they're
• 48:08
  down. And trust me, they know that. They
• 48:12
  know that we kicked them while they are
• 48:13
  down. You think they aren't pushing
• 48:16
  back, that they're not proud? Trust me,
• 48:19
  they are. And if we had taken a
• 48:21
  different approach, and a lot of people
• 48:23
  are still normal people. There are a lot
• 48:25
  of people that still want Western
• 48:28
  values, want Western democracy. They
• 48:31
  want these things, but they see our
• 48:33
  system with just as many holes as any
• 48:36
  system that they've had or they had in
• 48:38
  the '9s during the corruption and terror
• 48:40
  of the '9s that they lived through. And
• 48:43
  he was talking about that. He said at
• 48:45
  the time, many Russians believed the
• 48:48
  West represented a prosperous model that
• 48:51
  Russia should copy. More importantly,
• 48:53
  they believed Russia would be welcomed
• 48:55
  with open arms. That's what I thought
• 48:58
  naively because Russian and Europeans
• 49:01
  lived on the same continent and shared
• 49:03
  close cultural foundations. They all
• 49:05
  grew up the same way.
• 49:07
  They all had the same culture. They all
• 49:09
  were involved in the same dam,
• 49:11
  overrunning each other o into wars
• 49:14
  forever that they were doing. And they
• 49:16
  did have close cultural foundations.
• 49:18
  They all had, you know, Russia had just
• 49:20
  as much um
• 49:24
  I don't want to say colonialists, but uh
• 49:26
  lords, you know, like castles and lords
• 49:29
  and people that were in charge of
• 49:30
  regions, they did the same things in the
• 49:33
  17 1800s, whatever you would call that
• 49:36
  that England, France, Spain, a lot of
• 49:38
  the same ones did where people are
• 49:40
  taking over. Um he talked about
• 49:42
  Alexander III's famous statement that
• 49:45
  Russia has only two allies and he said
• 49:47
  this is how he feels now and this is
• 49:49
  important because he said Russia has
• 49:51
  only two allies the army and the navy
• 49:56
  that's how he feels now and because
• 49:58
  people just treat them like outcasts and
• 50:01
  he says well we're Russia we have two
• 50:03
  allies the army and the navy he says
• 50:05
  that even after the conflict in the
• 50:07
  caucuses about south oetia and abazia
• 50:10
  when he was president and uh that's
• 50:12
  still that's still a sore spot for them
• 50:14
  and I've been through there. He still
• 50:16
  tried to build stable relations with
• 50:19
  Europe. He thought Europeans understood
• 50:21
  Russian concerns but they don't and
• 50:24
  later events showed otherwise. He said
• 50:26
  that Europe does not understand anything
• 50:29
  Russia says, does not want to hear
• 50:31
  Russia and speaking bluntly wanted to
• 50:35
  end the Russian state and basically just
• 50:37
  take it all over, part it out.
• 50:40
  And you know, Europe is the colonialist,
• 50:44
  you know, that they wanted to be able to
• 50:46
  do that to Russia and they believe that.
• 50:49
  Now, frankly, I believe that too, and
• 50:51
  we've been involved in it. We thought
• 50:52
  that's what was going to happen with uh
• 50:55
  uh
• 50:57
  with um Ukraine coming after him. And
• 51:01
  some say this is uh you know that these
• 51:03
  openly rousophobic positions that it do
• 51:06
  exist. Others talk about it more
• 51:08
  carefully but not midvive. He's pretty
• 51:10
  blunt.
• 51:12
  This is what exists. He argues this has
• 51:15
  become the central trend of western
• 51:17
  policy especially regarding Europe and
• 51:19
  Russia. His conclusion was this.
• 51:22
  Russia's conflict with the western
• 51:24
  worlds is an existential threat to
• 51:27
  Russia. That's what he says. It is, in
• 51:30
  his words, a question of Russia's very
• 51:33
  existence, and there are no illusions
• 51:35
  about what is coming next. Meaning,
• 51:38
  Europe's preparing for war by 2030 with
• 51:41
  Russia. It's it's not going away. They
• 51:44
  are pushing it even now. the clown
• 51:47
  Zalinski, you know, the Green Goblin,
• 51:49
  gets to go all over the world and talk
• 51:50
  about how they're kicking the crap out
• 51:52
  of Russia because they're bombing them
• 51:54
  with Western missiles and attacking them
• 51:57
  with Western drone technology,
• 52:00
  uh, military intelligence,
• 52:04
  satellite data. How do you think they're
• 52:06
  getting deep inside of Russia to attack
• 52:08
  all these things? Ukraine doesn't have
• 52:09
  any of that. That's all western
• 52:12
  technology and western uh mostly western
• 52:17
  and European intelligence. US is
• 52:19
  providing it too and uh that is how they
• 52:22
  are bombing inside of um
• 52:26
  deep inside of Russia and are creating
• 52:28
  threats and Russia is is not putting uh
• 52:31
  Zalinski comes out and goes look we've
• 52:34
  scared them so much that they're not
• 52:35
  putting all their technology and their
• 52:37
  equipment on display for victory day.
• 52:40
  They're only going to uh uh there aren't
• 52:43
  going to be any equipment. You know why?
• 52:45
  And this is Zilinsky at the uh um at the
• 52:48
  uh caucuses event last couple of days.
• 52:50
  He says that's because they don't have
• 52:53
  any equipment left is what he's saying.
• 52:57
  That's crap. But Russia is taking
• 53:00
  precautions because Ukraine says they're
• 53:02
  going to bomb it and they're going to
• 53:03
  bomb it. And Russia says you do, Kiev is
• 53:06
  next. And Kiev will be hit hard. And
• 53:10
  they're trying to get a ceasefire during
• 53:12
  victory day, which is a big freaking
• 53:14
  deal. and they're trying to get a
• 53:15
  ceasefire for for both sides. And
• 53:19
  meanwhile, Zalinski's touring the planet
• 53:21
  saying, "Haha, that you you run on
• 53:23
  Victory Day. You all just run cuz we're
• 53:26
  coming. We're going to bomb Victory
• 53:28
  Day." And that's the trouble with what's
• 53:30
  going on in Ukraine. Unfortunately,
• 53:33
  the Ukrainians know, Zilinski knows, the
• 53:37
  West knows that Russia is winning this
• 53:42
  war. They are gaining large amounts of
• 53:45
  ground and pushing and pushing and
• 53:49
  they're doing it slowly, but they keep
• 53:51
  moving forward and they're uh, you know,
• 53:54
  people are dying. They're devastating
• 53:56
  the army of Ukraine. And when dead
• 53:59
  bodies are turned over, Russia turns
• 54:01
  over 6 to 8,000 and Ukraine turns over
• 54:05
  50, 29, these terribly low numbers. and
• 54:10
  uh you know they're they give back
• 54:11
  bodies that they find of Russian
• 54:13
  soldiers and uh the the numbers are
• 54:16
  astronomically different uh between
• 54:18
  Russia and Ukraine when they exchange
• 54:20
  dead bodies and Ukraine doesn't want to
• 54:22
  take their dead bodies because they
• 54:24
  can't afford to pay the u death benefit
• 54:27
  to the families so they try to not take
• 54:30
  them and you know and then they don't
• 54:32
  have any bodies of Russian soldiers to
• 54:35
  provide back because the numbers are so
• 54:38
  astronomic ally different on one side
• 54:41
  from the other and so Medvedivive
• 54:43
  talking about this in the existential
• 54:45
  threat and what is going on is pretty
• 54:48
  accurate and I think that people need to
• 54:51
  understand this in the west and nobody
• 54:53
  talks about it you know Trump will just
• 54:55
  say oh gee there's a lot of people dying
• 54:57
  and uh uh you know on both sides and
• 55:00
  that is true but Ukra but it's a far
• 55:02
  different number when uh and and
• 55:05
  Zalinski is nothing but lying he is
• 55:07
  propagandized ing completely and us
• 55:11
  giving them the ability. They're like a
• 55:13
  fly on a horse
• 55:16
  compared to what they're doing to Russia
• 55:17
  with what Russia is doing in reverse to
• 55:20
  them. Russia is churning and taking
• 55:22
  property, taking territory and pushing
• 55:25
  through with their goals. Ukraine has
• 55:28
  nothing. And so to get good propaganda,
• 55:31
  they bomb deep inside Russia and go,
• 55:33
  "Yeah, but look what we can do." Well,
• 55:35
  why don't you spend time taking care of
• 55:38
  your own front line? Because you can't
• 55:41
  win there. You're not winning there. So,
• 55:45
  the only way you can win is
• 55:47
  propagandizing strikes deep inside of
• 55:49
  Russia or making threats on victory day.
• 55:52
  It's a way to try to claim
• 55:54
  you're winning a war because you're not.
• 55:57
  And this is not victory. Okay? You may
• 56:00
  be destroying um production capacity
• 56:04
  which is destroying the world economy
• 56:07
  along with what the US is doing in Iran
• 56:09
  and all the crap going on in the Straits
• 56:11
  of Hormuz and all the threats going on
• 56:13
  against Chinese um
• 56:17
  uh refineries.
• 56:20
  We don't have anything. All we have is
• 56:22
  politics and but they're not winning on
• 56:25
  the ground and they're losing every day.
• 56:28
  More territory if you follow the
• 56:30
  numbers. Um question two. If Europe is
• 56:33
  quarreling with America, they focused on
• 56:35
  the quarrel between America and Europe,
• 56:37
  Trump and the globalists inside of
• 56:40
  Europe and America is quarreling with
• 56:42
  the entire world. This was an
• 56:45
  interesting question. How does it end
• 56:47
  Mr. uh Midv? How does it end, Dimmitri?
• 56:51
  And he says, this was a question from a
• 56:54
  girl named Anna. She says, if the
• 56:56
  European countries are fighting with
• 56:58
  America and America's fighting with the
• 56:59
  whole world, what will this lead to? And
• 57:01
  Midviv says his first comment, the
• 57:05
  victory of Poier, the victory of Russia,
• 57:08
  Russian victory, because if you're if
• 57:10
  everybody else is fighting, let
• 57:12
  everybody else fight and we'll rise from
• 57:15
  uh you know the the the remains. an
• 57:18
  interesting perspective. He expands upon
• 57:20
  that. He said that although the
• 57:21
  conversation is public, it's also blunt
• 57:24
  and frank. He finds it amusing to watch
• 57:27
  relations between the United States and
• 57:29
  Europe develop the way they have. He
• 57:31
  says that Russia should not approach
• 57:33
  this from the standpoint of sympathy
• 57:35
  toward one side or the other. Russia has
• 57:38
  its own interests that don't match
• 57:40
  either one of these and should focus on
• 57:42
  its own successes, development, and
• 57:44
  support of the Russian citizens. He
• 57:46
  says, but still he watches the US and
• 57:49
  Europe behaving like, his words, spiders
• 57:52
  in a jar with great interest. He says he
• 57:56
  is pleased to see it, but we'll continue
• 57:58
  watching these events unfold. His line
• 58:01
  is essentially stock up on popcorn
• 58:04
  because this is this is going to be a
• 58:07
  movie worth watching because you know
• 58:09
  fools and idiots are running the show
• 58:11
  which is true in both America and Europe
• 58:15
  and uh can the middle here's question
• 58:17
  number three student from the Russian
• 58:19
  state university of justice and he goes
• 58:22
  man there's a lot of future lawyers in
• 58:23
  here is what midvidiv said and he asked
• 58:26
  about middle eastern conflict and he
• 58:28
  note the way that they have burned and
• 58:29
  smoldered for centuries and they're
• 58:31
  still coming. And she asked how to stop
• 58:34
  this uh fire, this burning, and what
• 58:38
  kind of deal would help get rid of that?
• 58:40
  You know, can we support any of this?
• 58:42
  And Midvetive first asks whether she
• 58:44
  plans to become a judge. And she answers
• 58:46
  evasively. She goes, "Possibly." And he
• 58:49
  praises that answer as the right answer
• 58:51
  for any future judge.
• 58:54
  Poss. Well, that's a good answer. Then
• 58:56
  he says without illusions that he does
• 58:58
  not believe the Middle East conflict
• 58:59
  will end in the foreseeable future. He
• 59:02
  says that chaos makes people a lot of
• 59:06
  money. Chaos makes people money. This is
• 59:10
  one of the reasons I wanted to share
• 59:12
  this
• 59:14
  very intelligent
• 59:16
  um commentary and banter you know
• 59:19
  question and answer period whether
• 59:20
  staged or not. This this is this was
• 59:24
  very well done and uh he argues that
• 59:28
  many countries and many forces are
• 59:30
  interested in prolonging the conflict.
• 59:32
  Even though people living in the Middle
• 59:34
  East are suffering, people in Ukraine
• 59:36
  are suffering, outside forces are
• 59:38
  continually throwing wood or gasoline
• 59:41
  onto the fire. Again, that's his
• 59:44
  comment, not mine. He says the conflict
• 59:46
  is going to continue that sometimes
• 59:49
  being quiet, sometimes flaring up again.
• 59:52
  And the current situation is connected
• 59:54
  in his words to events around Iran and
• 59:56
  describes what he says as launched by
• 59:59
  aggression by the United States and
• 1:00:02
  Israel just like everybody should know
• 1:00:04
  if then that this will never end. This
• 1:00:07
  isn't going to end. Israel is even now
• 1:00:10
  trying to partner with the UAE. Can you
• 1:00:12
  imagine that? an Arabic country actually
• 1:00:16
  picking Israel and saying and and
• 1:00:20
  they're rolling the dice right now, the
• 1:00:23
  UAE on backing only Israel because of of
• 1:00:28
  the US and the Israel Israel conflict.
• 1:00:32
  Um that's that's going to be a very
• 1:00:34
  interesting geopolitical event.
• 1:00:37
  He says the eventually the Iran conflict
• 1:00:40
  will end on some terms but the
• 1:00:42
  underlying course and source of
• 1:00:44
  contradiction is going to remain. Why?
• 1:00:47
  Because it cannot be resolved by any
• 1:00:49
  kind of the deals that are now being
• 1:00:52
  constantly discussed. Now that is
• 1:00:56
  accurate because they will not be
• 1:00:58
  resolved based on that. He rejects the
• 1:01:01
  idea that geopolitical conflict can be
• 1:01:04
  solved through simplistic transaction
• 1:01:07
  style bargaining. Allah Donald Trump
• 1:01:10
  doesn't work that way. I agree. Uh for
• 1:01:13
  Midviv resolution would be possible only
• 1:01:16
  through full application of
• 1:01:17
  international law which everybody tends
• 1:01:20
  to ignore including deci earlier
• 1:01:24
  decisions made by humanity. Basically he
• 1:01:28
  he he points to history and he says
• 1:01:30
  specifically references UN resolutions
• 1:01:33
  on Palestine Israeli settlement
• 1:01:36
  beginning in 1947 and says these should
• 1:01:39
  be the foundation of the negotiation
• 1:01:41
  process and his conclusion is that says
• 1:01:44
  because many forces are not interested
• 1:01:47
  in final resolution but are interested
• 1:01:50
  only in money and making huge amounts of
• 1:01:52
  money for the globalist leaders.
• 1:01:55
  conflicts in the Middle East are not
• 1:01:57
  going to disappear in the coming
• 1:01:59
  decades. If anything, they're going to
• 1:02:01
  get worse. Then somebody asked, a
• 1:02:03
  firstear law student, another one, uh,
• 1:02:06
  from the Russian Customs Academy asked
• 1:02:09
  whether geopolitics politics can be
• 1:02:13
  the art of the deal. You know, Allah
• 1:02:15
  Trump, deal making. People are talking
• 1:02:17
  about this about, you know, Donald Trump
• 1:02:19
  is just a dealmaker. He's not a
• 1:02:21
  politician. And if it is, what rules
• 1:02:24
  should apply to such deals? If you're
• 1:02:26
  not going to use politics, you know, if
• 1:02:28
  you're not going to use diplomacy,
• 1:02:29
  diplomacy doesn't exist. And if it
• 1:02:31
  really is a deal, what rules apply to
• 1:02:34
  this deal? Is it art of the deal? Should
• 1:02:35
  everybody just read Donald Trump and
• 1:02:37
  that's that? And that's kind of the
• 1:02:39
  impression I got when they read the
• 1:02:40
  question. And he says that when
• 1:02:42
  geopolitical processes or peace
• 1:02:44
  settlements are reduced to the term
• 1:02:46
  deal,
• 1:02:47
  this simplifies and vulgarizes
• 1:02:50
  international life.
• 1:02:52
  That's deep right there. That's a good
• 1:02:54
  comment. He says, "Trade techniques very
• 1:02:57
  rarely work in international relations.
• 1:03:01
  Something can sometimes be exchanged for
• 1:03:03
  something else, but only on a very
• 1:03:06
  limited scale. Bizaar schemes do not
• 1:03:10
  work in geopolitics. And I don't mean
• 1:03:12
  bizarre. I mean bazar where you go to a
• 1:03:15
  bazaar or a we always called them
• 1:03:19
  Lana Lana and I when we would travel
• 1:03:21
  into Europe into Arabic countries they
• 1:03:25
  have these things that they are really
• 1:03:26
  called traps their lovki traps and you
• 1:03:30
  go into there and they're uh little
• 1:03:33
  markets where people have their various
• 1:03:35
  stalls and you're deal making that's a
• 1:03:37
  bizaar okay somebody's selling silk
• 1:03:40
  somebody's selling nuts somebody's
• 1:03:42
  selling and leather goods, you know, and
• 1:03:44
  sandals and stuff like that. They're
• 1:03:45
  really freaking cool. In Arabic
• 1:03:48
  countries, you know, Morocco had some
• 1:03:49
  great ones. And you would go through
• 1:03:51
  these things and bargain and try to buy
• 1:03:53
  thing and that is a bizaar and try and
• 1:03:56
  he said that bizarre type of deal
• 1:03:59
  making, you know, where where you go in
• 1:04:01
  and the leather jackets that are made in
• 1:04:03
  in Morocco with a starting price of $50
• 1:04:07
  approximately, you can probably get it
• 1:04:09
  for 25. But, you know, that's a one-time
• 1:04:13
  deal.
• 1:04:15
  One time. Every customer can approach
• 1:04:17
  things differently and find out what the
• 1:04:20
  number is for that person. But somebody
• 1:04:22
  that knows this person and buys a bunch
• 1:04:24
  of them, isn't going to get the same
• 1:04:26
  deal as Sam who goes in and says, "I'll
• 1:04:28
  buy two of them, but I'm only giving you
• 1:04:30
  $25 a piece, but I'll give you dollars
• 1:04:33
  and not uh whatever they were, real. I
• 1:04:36
  can't remember what it what what the
• 1:04:38
  currency was in Morocco and I got two
• 1:04:41
  awesome leather jackets for 25 bucks a
• 1:04:43
  piece and a pair of cool shoes. Um
• 1:04:46
  anyway, but he turns into civil law. He
• 1:04:49
  says you can't make international deals
• 1:04:52
  that way. Doesn't work you know and it
• 1:04:55
  really doesn't um to be truthful. And he
• 1:04:58
  says geopolitic politics is not a
• 1:05:00
  dealmaking in that response. when
• 1:05:02
  geopolitical processes or peace
• 1:05:04
  settlements are reduced to the term
• 1:05:06
  deal, it's vulgar. And uh he says in
• 1:05:09
  civil law, a transaction is an action
• 1:05:11
  aimed at creating, changing, or
• 1:05:13
  terminating a legal relationship. A
• 1:05:15
  unilateral transaction might be a will
• 1:05:17
  or accepting an inheritance. And he he
• 1:05:20
  got into it. A multilateral transaction
• 1:05:22
  is a contract, but most conflicts in
• 1:05:25
  world history do not end with a
• 1:05:27
  contract. Sometimes consensus is reached
• 1:05:30
  but often time it comes through
• 1:05:32
  capitulation of one side or the other.
• 1:05:35
  Somebody has to give. And Midvet argues
• 1:05:38
  that capitulation is often the most
• 1:05:40
  effective way to determine a conflict
• 1:05:43
  fate. One side loses, the other wins.
• 1:05:46
  By contrast, manipulation through a deal
• 1:05:49
  creates a situation where the conflict
• 1:05:51
  always flares up again. Now think about
• 1:05:54
  that perspective.
• 1:05:56
  That's an interesting perspective
• 1:05:58
  because that means and this is Iranian
• 1:06:01
  concept, Russian concept. If you're in
• 1:06:03
  an existential threat to your very being
• 1:06:07
  like Iran is, like Russia is, you know,
• 1:06:10
  Ukraine wants to destroy them, Europe
• 1:06:12
  wants to destroy Russia and part it out
• 1:06:15
  and steal all of their resources. And by
• 1:06:18
  the way, that's exactly what the US and
• 1:06:20
  Israel want to do to Iran. This is an
• 1:06:23
  existential threat and the deal making
• 1:06:26
  that is going on in Iran right now.
• 1:06:27
  They're going screw that. We aren't
• 1:06:29
  taking that deal. There is no deal.
• 1:06:32
  You're either going to destroy us or
• 1:06:34
  you're not.
• 1:06:36
  But we're done talking. This is how
• 1:06:40
  people think when it's an existential
• 1:06:43
  threat to them. And by the way, that is
• 1:06:46
  why the people believe and the people go
• 1:06:49
  through it. They don't want Israel or
• 1:06:51
  the US running Iran. Donald Trump
• 1:06:54
  picking who it is and you kill off the
• 1:06:56
  leaders, they're going, "Screw you. We
• 1:06:58
  still want to pick our own." Donald
• 1:07:00
  Trump does not get to pick our leaders.
• 1:07:03
  I mean, I'm hearing this when I'm
• 1:07:06
  hearing this entire concept because it's
• 1:07:08
  the exact same thing in Russia. These
• 1:07:10
  are two very proud
• 1:07:13
  um cultures. Russian culture very proud
• 1:07:17
  of being Russian. And they should be.
• 1:07:20
  There's tons positive. Iranians very
• 1:07:22
  proud of being Iranians.
• 1:07:25
  They don't want American they don't want
• 1:07:27
  American justice or American systems in
• 1:07:30
  Iran. They're not looking for Europe to
• 1:07:33
  to to lead them. Europe and America have
• 1:07:36
  screwed them for decades,
• 1:07:38
  probably centuries. You know, you go
• 1:07:40
  back, they've been stealing from them
• 1:07:41
  forever. Colonialism and all that stuff.
• 1:07:44
  This is what's happened. And uh so he
• 1:07:47
  says real settlement requires the hard
• 1:07:49
  work of many people, diplomats, military
• 1:07:52
  officials, economists and state leaders.
• 1:07:55
  It is a delicate fabric woven over days,
• 1:07:57
  months, or years. The strength of that
• 1:07:58
  fabric determines whether future
• 1:08:00
  conflict will reignite or never occurs
• 1:08:04
  again. Geopolitics is much more complex
• 1:08:07
  than any commercial deal. And that is
• 1:08:10
  true. So Donald's art of the deal isn't
• 1:08:13
  gonna work in Iran.
• 1:08:16
  It's just not. And I think he's bumping
• 1:08:20
  up against that. There's like 18
• 1:08:22
  questions and I'm only on the fifth one
• 1:08:24
  and I don't think we're going to make it
• 1:08:25
  today. But what historical period
• 1:08:28
  resembles the present? This was pretty
• 1:08:30
  cool. And a student named Angelina says,
• 1:08:32
  "What event or period in history Medve
• 1:08:35
  would compare uh to today?" And
• 1:08:38
  Medvevive says that Russia is currently
• 1:08:40
  in the middle of the special military
• 1:08:42
  operation in Ukraine, which he describes
• 1:08:44
  plainly as war. He says local conflicts
• 1:08:47
  often precede global conflict. And he
• 1:08:50
  would compare the current time to the
• 1:08:52
  period before World War I and partly to
• 1:08:55
  1930s before World War II. Now, that's
• 1:08:59
  scary because he, you know, a lot of
• 1:09:02
  people believe that we're in the
• 1:09:03
  preamble to World War II right now.
• 1:09:07
  Some people argue that it's already
• 1:09:09
  started. And he explains that before
• 1:09:12
  World War I, humanity had not previously
• 1:09:14
  experienced a full global war in the
• 1:09:16
  modern sense, which is true. There had
• 1:09:19
  been large campaigns like Napoleon,
• 1:09:21
  which Russia won. World War I occurred
• 1:09:24
  in the new technological era, tanks,
• 1:09:27
  aircraft, modern artillery, poison gas.
• 1:09:30
  And despite all the conversations, you
• 1:09:34
  know, in uh cigar halls and polite
• 1:09:36
  pre-war discussions, the war destroyed
• 1:09:40
  existing ideas about warfare and turned
• 1:09:43
  into a meat grinder and Europe punished
• 1:09:47
  itself. Then he moved into the 30s,
• 1:09:50
  which is a lot of it is common today.
• 1:09:52
  Militarization of Germany, the rise of
• 1:09:55
  fascism, the preparation for war across
• 1:09:58
  Europe. He says this is happening right
• 1:10:00
  now. Fascism and preparation for war.
• 1:10:04
  They're being very open about it. He
• 1:10:06
  says something similar. European leaders
• 1:10:08
  are constantly report that war with
• 1:10:11
  Russia is inevitable. They are planning
• 1:10:14
  their own populations for it. Russia
• 1:10:18
  will attack them. That's not true. In my
• 1:10:20
  opinion, they're going to attack Russia.
• 1:10:23
  They are a self-fulfilling prophecy. If
• 1:10:26
  you say it often enough, everybody is
• 1:10:29
  buying in. That needs to stop. But it
• 1:10:32
  won't. He says Russia has made no such
• 1:10:35
  aggressive declarations towards Europe
• 1:10:37
  in any speech, any document, or any
• 1:10:40
  policy statement. Russia, he says, is
• 1:10:43
  forced to conduct the special military
• 1:10:45
  op operation in Ukraine for reasons that
• 1:10:48
  everyone knows, but has no aggressive
• 1:10:51
  designs at all against Europe. And
• 1:10:54
  that's absolutely true, by the way.
• 1:10:56
  Nevertheless, the European war machine
• 1:10:58
  is is priming up for war. Europe is
• 1:11:01
  producing large amounts of weapons.
• 1:11:03
  Leaders of large European countries are
• 1:11:05
  saying they must prepare to fight
• 1:11:08
  Russian aggression. His warning is very
• 1:11:11
  direct. If somebody says every day that
• 1:11:15
  war is inevitable, war will begin. No
• 1:11:19
  doubt there will always be enough
• 1:11:21
  pretext to start a war. and blame the
• 1:11:24
  other side. What have we done in in
• 1:11:26
  Iran? Israel and the US two years
• 1:11:30
  running and many many before that
• 1:11:33
  started war against Iran. Yet they're
• 1:11:36
  blamed. Iran is blamed. There will
• 1:11:38
  always be plenty of plenty of pretexts
• 1:11:40
  to start war. He says the task of a true
• 1:11:43
  politician today is to cool down, calm
• 1:11:46
  down, and find constructive
• 1:11:48
  conversations. And Americans hear this
• 1:11:50
  better than Europeans. according to
• 1:11:52
  Midviv because Americans are a little
• 1:11:55
  more pragmatic.
• 1:11:56
  We we don't want to this was a
• 1:11:59
  compliment to us in America. He said
• 1:12:02
  Europe is not pragmatic. He says he
• 1:12:05
  cannot compare today to anything except
• 1:12:08
  1914 and 1939.
• 1:12:12
  I think that's very well put and which
• 1:12:15
  is why I'm sharing some of this with
• 1:12:16
  you. I may have to continue it tomorrow
• 1:12:19
  because I I don't want to uh I probably
• 1:12:21
  shouldn't have spent so much time on my
• 1:12:23
  stupid story at the beginning of the
• 1:12:24
  show. But uh uh you know here's another
• 1:12:27
  question. A student named Mart asked
• 1:12:30
  whether voters main demands what ma what
• 1:12:34
  voters main demands will be in the
• 1:12:36
  upcoming state duma election and what
• 1:12:39
  does he think that voters want the most?
• 1:12:42
  And Medvevivv notes that he cannot
• 1:12:44
  separate his answer from the fact that
• 1:12:45
  he heads a political party, one of the
• 1:12:48
  political parties. So his comments will
• 1:12:50
  also reflect the approach of his party
• 1:12:52
  called United Russia. He says the main
• 1:12:55
  thing most Russians want is victory and
• 1:12:57
  the completion of the military operation
• 1:13:00
  in Ukraine. To achieve that, much still
• 1:13:03
  needs to be done on the front and in the
• 1:13:05
  rear. victory, he says, will bring
• 1:13:07
  stability and allow Russia to develop to
• 1:13:09
  develop a full and predictable um
• 1:13:13
  infrastructure in that way. And after
• 1:13:14
  that, people want the same things they
• 1:13:16
  have always wanted. Higher wages, good
• 1:13:19
  jobs, great housing, family support,
• 1:13:22
  solutions to demographic problems,
• 1:13:24
  modern healthcare, modern education.
• 1:13:26
  Those tasks remain constant. But to
• 1:13:29
  address them, Russia needs stability and
• 1:13:31
  security. And according to Midviv, that
• 1:13:33
  stability and security can be achieved
• 1:13:35
  only through the fulfillment of the
• 1:13:37
  goals of the special military operation,
• 1:13:40
  which by the way are close. That's me
• 1:13:43
  saying that, not midvidive. They're
• 1:13:44
  almost there.
• 1:13:47
  He was asked then a management student
• 1:13:49
  from the Pleanv Russian University of
• 1:13:52
  Economics says he uses artificial
• 1:13:54
  intelligence frequently and asks how
• 1:13:57
  Medved's opinion of AI has changed over
• 1:13:59
  the past year. He also asked what
• 1:14:01
  Medvedivive uses, which platform AI he
• 1:14:05
  uses in work or personal life. Medved
• 1:14:08
  says he has begun to feel somewhat
• 1:14:10
  cautious because he now uses artificial
• 1:14:12
  intelligence often because it's
• 1:14:14
  convenient. He assumes most people in
• 1:14:17
  the audience do the same thing. He says
• 1:14:19
  this change has happened right in front
• 1:14:21
  of young people's eyes and is
• 1:14:23
  transforming the world, including
• 1:14:26
  education. He says he chairs work
• 1:14:28
  related to Russia's Council on Education
• 1:14:30
  and Science and regularly asks ministers
• 1:14:33
  how education should deal with homework
• 1:14:37
  in the AI age. Now, isn't that
• 1:14:39
  interesting?
• 1:14:41
  Wonder what we're doing about AI
• 1:14:44
  in America and doing people's homework.
• 1:14:47
  You know, the dog ate my homework
• 1:14:49
  shouldn't exist anymore when you get a
• 1:14:52
  AI to do it for you, right? In the past,
• 1:14:54
  students came home and did homework or
• 1:14:56
  they didn't. Now with AI, the issue is
• 1:14:59
  entirely different and it could create a
• 1:15:01
  serious problem for educational systems
• 1:15:04
  worldwide. And he acknowledges that AI
• 1:15:07
  has powerfully changed people's lives by
• 1:15:10
  allowing quick answers to questions. But
• 1:15:12
  the key problem, he says, is trust of
• 1:15:17
  the platform. The same thing that we
• 1:15:19
  have here. Can people trust the results
• 1:15:22
  that AI gives them? He is concerned with
• 1:15:25
  both humanity's question and the
• 1:15:28
  question in exacting sciences like you
• 1:15:31
  know uh
• 1:15:33
  biology, chemistry, uh stuff like that.
• 1:15:37
  And in exact scientist, a specialist
• 1:15:40
  often has some sense of what the result
• 1:15:42
  should be. But in humanities or personal
• 1:15:46
  relationships, sociology, history, stuff
• 1:15:49
  like that, it's a little less clear. AI
• 1:15:51
  could invent historical events that
• 1:15:54
  never happened. And there are many
• 1:15:56
  examples. I've talked about them before
• 1:15:58
  in the legal thing. So they're going
• 1:16:00
  through the same things over there with
• 1:16:01
  their AI. The most difficult issues he
• 1:16:04
  say are is understanding how AI reached
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  the conclusion, how the system developed
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  that answer. and you learn.
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  AI is learning from you while you're
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  learning from AI, but it will also
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  artificially give you what you want to
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  hear. You know, it's it's interesting to
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  me. The challenge for humanity according
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  to Midvetive is verifying the chain of
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  reasoning, how it reasoned it out, the
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  sources, and the connections AI is
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  analyzing. To check even a relatively
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  simple answer requires labor of many
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  people and people generally don't do
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  that. They simply trust the result which
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  he says is a mistake. For midvative the
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  main challenge in AI is verification. If
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  humanity can properly verify AI results
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  AI will be useful. But AI is
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  increasingly being given control over
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  major processes even in critical
• 1:17:02
  technologies. He is not speaking about
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  you know a terminator or a war robot you
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  know some kind of thing like that but
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  about the management of large-scale
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  systems if AI is entrusted with such
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  such systems people have to be confident
• 1:17:18
  in the outcome this is why Russia is
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  developing its own AI systems and only a
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  handful of countries have serious AI
• 1:17:27
  capabilities the US China
• 1:17:31
  there's a little bit in France something
• 1:17:32
  in Britain written and some develop in
• 1:17:34
  the Arabic world with very few others
• 1:17:37
  possess such technology. But Russia
• 1:17:40
  needs its own AI because anything can be
• 1:17:43
  embedded into searches and analytic
• 1:17:46
  systems and users cannot just trust what
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  is being provided from outside because
• 1:17:51
  they don't know what is hidden inside.
• 1:17:54
  And his conclusion, he supports AI but
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  approaches it with caution. He never did
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  say which one he uses.
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  Um, here's a the youngest person in the
• 1:18:06
  well, the youngest question presenter
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  anyway in the audience uh was a ninth
• 1:18:12
  grade student named Elizabetha.
• 1:18:14
  Elizabeth said that um and and movement
• 1:18:18
  is impossible. Here's what she said.
• 1:18:21
  Movement is impossible without trial and
• 1:18:24
  error. You know, we have to take a
• 1:18:27
  variety of approaches. And she says,
• 1:18:29
  "How do I stop being afraid of making
• 1:18:32
  mistakes?"
• 1:18:33
  And asks Midvet to share his personal
• 1:18:36
  rules. Now, this is a very young girl
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  and that's a very good question. Whether
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  it's a plant or not, I don't know. Don't
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  care. But, you know, I wanted to see
• 1:18:44
  what Midviv said and he gave three
• 1:18:47
  rules. This is interesting. He said,
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  "First,
• 1:18:50
  this is blunt. First, it's better to not
• 1:18:53
  make mistakes at all. Don't make
• 1:18:55
  mistakes. That's number one. That's the
• 1:18:57
  main rule, you know, be careful and
• 1:18:59
  don't make mistakes. Second, when making
• 1:19:02
  a decision, you should detach from the
• 1:19:04
  emotion of it all. This is accurate. If
• 1:19:08
  you're emotional about something, you
• 1:19:10
  are not in decision-making mode. You
• 1:19:12
  know, if if you're, you know, that's why
• 1:19:15
  people go to lawyers, cuz lawyers look
• 1:19:17
  objectively and analytically at
• 1:19:19
  something and take the emotion out. I
• 1:19:22
  don't give a crap what is going on in
• 1:19:25
  your divorce. Doesn't matter. I would
• 1:19:27
  say this to people all the time. They'd
• 1:19:28
  come into me and want to talk about
• 1:19:30
  divorce. And I my first thing that I
• 1:19:33
  always said was, you know what? I don't
• 1:19:35
  even want you here unless you're getting
• 1:19:38
  a divorce. If you've made the decision
• 1:19:42
  and you're not just trying to scare the
• 1:19:45
  other side or trying to get the other
• 1:19:47
  side to see reality, then I will
• 1:19:50
  represent you. If you're game playing, I
• 1:19:52
  don't want anything to do with you. It's
• 1:19:54
  bad for you. It's horrible for the
• 1:19:56
  lawyer. And the lawyer gets blamed in
• 1:19:59
  the end when these two people get back
• 1:20:02
  together, be I love you, and they jump
• 1:20:05
  back in each other's arms and then they
• 1:20:07
  blame their lawyers for causing the
• 1:20:09
  fight in the first place. That's BS, but
• 1:20:12
  it happens far too often in family law.
• 1:20:16
  So, he says you have to detach from
• 1:20:18
  emotions. Hasty emotional decisions lead
• 1:20:21
  to mistakes. Remember he's talking to a
• 1:20:23
  ninth grader. So first don't make
• 1:20:25
  mistakes. That's said second is when
• 1:20:28
  making decisions detach from emotional
• 1:20:30
  hasty emotionals decisions lead to
• 1:20:32
  mistakes. And third if you do make a
• 1:20:35
  mistake. First thing is to admit it to
• 1:20:38
  yourself. This can be difficult because
• 1:20:41
  people justify their behavior, their
• 1:20:43
  conclusions and the data they relied on.
• 1:20:46
  Sometimes in difficult cases especially
• 1:20:50
  it's hard to admit the mistake publicly
• 1:20:53
  among colleagues or even to an undefined
• 1:20:56
  public. These are the three rules that
• 1:20:58
  he tries to follow. That doesn't mean
• 1:21:00
  he's never made a mistake. He cites the
• 1:21:03
  ancient maxim that only the person who
• 1:21:05
  does nothing makes no mistakes. If you
• 1:21:08
  don't do anything, you can't make a
• 1:21:10
  mistake. And if you're attempting to do
• 1:21:12
  something, everybody makes mistakes. and
• 1:21:15
  one should treat mistakes calmly and try
• 1:21:18
  not to make them in the first place. So
• 1:21:21
  there you go. Um
• 1:21:24
  wow. Uh number nine. This will probably
• 1:21:27
  be the last one um that we get to and
• 1:21:30
  maybe I'll continue tomorrow, maybe I
• 1:21:32
  won't. Uh today is the longest day in
• 1:21:33
  radio, the greatest day in radio at Lake
• 1:21:35
  Ozark Real Estate the Art Studio. And uh
• 1:21:39
  you know, you can call in if you have
• 1:21:41
  real commentary and not BS like that uh
• 1:21:44
  uh joker who called in earlier provided
• 1:21:47
  for us as a little bit of an
• 1:21:48
  entertaining uh interlude. Um
• 1:21:52
  uh um I I prefer Midvive than than uh
• 1:21:56
  you know some guy. Let's tell you that
• 1:21:58
  phone number was a 607 number from
• 1:22:00
  Hornell, New York. That's is what it
• 1:22:03
  says. And I'd get some lunatic calling
• 1:22:06
  in. Call in on whoever's whoever guy you
• 1:22:10
  said. Call in on his show, not mine.
• 1:22:13
  Nuts. Uh anyway, the question was from a
• 1:22:17
  girl named Tatiana, a great Russian name
• 1:22:20
  from Muskva, Moscow, says the US had
• 1:22:22
  traditionally tried to act as a mediator
• 1:22:24
  in difficult conflicts. And she asks
• 1:22:27
  whether America is currently managing or
• 1:22:30
  showing that role. Midvetives first asks
• 1:22:34
  her what she thinks. He says, "Well,
• 1:22:37
  what do you think?" And she goes, "Well,
• 1:22:39
  they're not doing it very well." So, the
• 1:22:42
  US isn't, you know, they're not managing
• 1:22:44
  conflict at all. And Medved says, "Well,
• 1:22:48
  I fully agree with that analysis." He
• 1:22:50
  says, "It's difficult for anyone to be a
• 1:22:52
  mediator." That's true, and there are no
• 1:22:54
  patented mediators, although many claim
• 1:22:57
  that role. He then says, "A country that
• 1:22:59
  steals presidents," he's talking about
• 1:23:01
  Maduro, "and starts conflicts themselves
• 1:23:04
  can hardly be considered an effective
• 1:23:06
  mediator." He says sarcastically to the
• 1:23:10
  claim by a well-known politician that he
• 1:23:13
  ended nine or 10 wars.
• 1:23:16
  And Midviv says everybody understands
• 1:23:18
  what that means because practically all
• 1:23:20
  of those conflicts have resumed. Still,
• 1:23:23
  he says he cannot deny one thing. At
• 1:23:26
  least the US current administration
• 1:23:28
  under Donald Trump is trying to do
• 1:23:31
  things in that direction. He contrasts
• 1:23:34
  this with the Biden administration which
• 1:23:36
  he says simply harnessed the wagons of
• 1:23:39
  war and financed conflicts to the
• 1:23:42
  maximum degree. This is a compliment to
• 1:23:45
  the old Trumpster. He noted that main
• 1:23:48
  subsidies and payments to Ukraine were
• 1:23:50
  made under Biden involving huge amounts
• 1:23:53
  of money which Trump himself often
• 1:23:56
  comments upon. He says Trump
• 1:23:58
  administration is trying but
• 1:24:00
  effectiveness is limited. First, the US
• 1:24:03
  has the reputation and the burden of
• 1:24:06
  that reputation that he already
• 1:24:08
  described. Second, the US current
• 1:24:11
  administration
• 1:24:13
  is between a rock and a hard place. He
• 1:24:15
  said, "The hammer and an anvil." The
• 1:24:17
  hammer is Congress and the anvil is
• 1:24:19
  Europe. Between these two forces, the
• 1:24:22
  administration is not free in its own
• 1:24:25
  approach, even though Trump says he's
• 1:24:27
  dissatisfied with Europe and that Europe
• 1:24:30
  is just not doing enough. Midv notes
• 1:24:32
  that many assessments made by Trump and
• 1:24:35
  Vance coincide with his own feelings
• 1:24:38
  about Europe. Now, this could be the
• 1:24:41
  next president of Russia, by the way.
• 1:24:43
  He's uh very well placed for that.
• 1:24:47
  They have seen Europe's weaknesses. He
• 1:24:50
  still does not regard the United States
• 1:24:53
  as a an absolute mediator. But he says
• 1:24:57
  it is positive that the current
• 1:24:59
  administration is at least trying
• 1:25:01
  because Americans, and he said it again,
• 1:25:04
  are very pragmatic. They don't want
• 1:25:06
  these wars. He also says the recent
• 1:25:08
  conversations between Putin and Trump
• 1:25:12
  confirmed this and his conclusion was we
• 1:25:16
  will live and we shall see what happens.
• 1:25:20
  Poidium
• 1:25:22
  is what that is. We will live continue
• 1:25:24
  to live and see what happens. And on
• 1:25:26
  that note, we will close. Uh there are
• 1:25:28
  still 8 10 questions. I may continue
• 1:25:31
  with them tomorrow just because I think
• 1:25:32
  the topic is interesting to see what
• 1:25:35
  they're discussing on the other side of
• 1:25:36
  the planet. His visuplania was well
• 1:25:39
  worth watching
• 1:25:41
  and uh very interesting and I hope you
• 1:25:44
  enjoyed my recitation of it because
• 1:25:46
  there I only got halfway through. This
• 1:25:48
  is international flavor. I am Samuel
• 1:25:51
  Trap. This is Dam Radio coming to you
• 1:25:54
  live from the Lake Ozark real estate of
• 1:25:56
  the art studio. I'm very glad you were
• 1:25:58
  here today and um I hope you have a a
• 1:26:01
  beautiful mid Missouri day. You can
• 1:26:04
  always listen to past shows at uh
• 1:26:06
  damradio.com/mpodcast
• 1:26:09
  or internationalflavor at
• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:13
  And with that, I shall leave you with
• 1:26:17
  the next program, the damn swag.