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3 Guys Before The Game - Arizona State Game Recap (Episode 675) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Welcome one, Welcome all. Yes, it's time for three guys
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  Speaker 1: before the game, episode number six hundred and seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: This is our Arizona State recap ouch. Didn't feel good.
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  Speaker 1: let's do this thing. Episode six hundred and seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Arizona State Game recap and just doing some
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  Speaker 1: quick math, which I try not to do in public
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  Speaker 1: This would leave us one hundred and twenty five episodes
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  Speaker 1: away from episode eight hundred and all I have to
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  Speaker 1: say about that is listen, it's been a great run.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all we'll say. Let's bring in Hope Kerchieville,
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  Speaker 1: who has not been with us. I'm doing my math
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  Speaker 1: correctly for like the last seventeen or eighteen days, missed several.
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  Speaker 2: Shows twenty twenty two, last time he appeared.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and he is back. Top of the day to you, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, guys, Good morning. I note that while I
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  Speaker 3: was away, West Virginia did nothing but win. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I come back in West Virginia loses. Yeah, so causation correlation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should point out you are in Arizona. You
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  Speaker 1: were at the Arizona State game yesterday. Yeah, yes, sure, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You went with some college buddies, is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got together six other college buddies and I
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  Speaker 3: got together and decided to meet for this game. So
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  Speaker 3: we gathered from all of the country and went to
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. And it was a different experience for me. I
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  Speaker 3: had not been to a game of football game of years,
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  Speaker 3: so it was different. And I tell you, guys, if
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  Speaker 3: you want to get into the obvious observations. Well, not played,
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  Speaker 3: put on my WV.
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  Speaker 1: Not until we play, can't start it until we play.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't been here a while.
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  Speaker 1: I would just think just a big accomplishment at his
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  Speaker 1: age still to have six college buddies around. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a great that's a great step right
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  Speaker 1: in the right direction.
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  Speaker 2: There. That's good to have. That's really good. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: anxious to go here. He hasn't been on one play
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  Speaker 2: to music because he's ready. He's rare to go here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're not wasting any time. Here we go
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  Speaker 2: man Hoppy's obvious observations. He went to his first football
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  Speaker 2: game in a long long time, and he sat in
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  Speaker 2: the stands. He wasn't working at He's got.
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  Speaker 3: Thoughts that sound rand new, but the things we already knew.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he got his bomb ready. Heaven knows, I's t
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  Speaker 2: it quick before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, obvious.
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  Speaker 2: Ovation boom. Yeah, that is a good song.
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  Speaker 1: Really, I like this very well done, thanks again to
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  Speaker 1: Gary Mertens. Yeah I put that together all right. So
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  Speaker 1: hit us with your obvious observations. I saw you send
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  Speaker 1: me a picture of where you were sitting. Pretty good, really,
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  Speaker 1: good seats. So you had a good look at.
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  Speaker 3: It, good good seats. Yeah yeah, right on the forty
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  Speaker 3: five across from you. If you were way up high,
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  Speaker 3: right went your way up high.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was high, but it was good.
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  Speaker 1: I was fine with it. It was good.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, okay, but you know, you know, guys, what
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  Speaker 3: was interesting about this is that I got here Friday
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  Speaker 3: and I went spent two hours walking around campus and
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  Speaker 3: going to local establishments, and my guys got in later
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  Speaker 3: and yesterday we were went down to the homecoming parade
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  Speaker 3: it was homecoming for Arizona State, and then of course
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  Speaker 3: went to the game. So I was probably spent like
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  Speaker 3: four or five hours among Arizona State fans even prior
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  Speaker 3: to the game. And Brad, it was the word I
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  Speaker 3: came up with was sterile. Nobody said go home, Mountaineers,
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  Speaker 3: nobody said welcome Mountaineers. And I think that's because there's
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  Speaker 3: just no history, right, I mean, they don't know who
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  Speaker 3: we are. Who are these strange people from the east
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  Speaker 3: to or called west, and then we don't know who
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  Speaker 3: they are. There's no rivalry there, so it was just
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  Speaker 3: kind of a sterile environment I think for the visitors
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  Speaker 3: then after the game, everybody was polite. Of course they won,
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  Speaker 3: like hey, thanks, then then it was great game, which
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  Speaker 3: it was good luck to you. We said good luck
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  Speaker 3: to them. So it was a it was a very
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  Speaker 3: casual environment there was there wasn't a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 3: And those fans, Tony, you know, they only bowed twice
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  Speaker 3: in the game. Once was in West Virginia came out,
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  Speaker 3: and another time when there was a call that the
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  Speaker 3: fans didn't like. But there was not hostility directed toward
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia. So interesting. Certainly, over time, maybe some I've
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  Speaker 3: developed eft first the game itself, and you guys have
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  Speaker 3: already touched on this. This is one that got away.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you had this one. You had opportunities in
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  Speaker 3: this game and couldn't capitalize. I know you'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: this twice inside the five came away with no points
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  Speaker 3: on those on those two of those attempts, that two
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  Speaker 3: point conversion two points ended up being the difference in
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  Speaker 3: the game, and didn't get anything going on that two
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  Speaker 3: point conversion. Couldn't run the ball what sixty eight yards
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  Speaker 3: rushing By the same token, I thought the best player
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  Speaker 3: on the field was Jeff Simms and an interesting story.
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  Speaker 3: Here's a guy who was at Georgia Tech. He was
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  Speaker 3: in Nebraska. He's been up and down. This was his
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  Speaker 3: third school. He was behind Sam Levitt. He comes on
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  Speaker 3: and Tony, he has a great game. He's nineteen of
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight, two oh seven, three touchdowns, no interceptions, and
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  Speaker 3: probably had about four drops, ran for eighty one yards.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was the difference in the game for
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  Speaker 3: Arizona State. West Virginia did make some big plays and
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  Speaker 3: brand You've talked a lot about West Virginia's inability to
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  Speaker 3: make big plays, and they made big plays. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: how about that great call on third and twenty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Get the ball to Tayvon Bowers right and just let
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  Speaker 3: him do what he does. And on that play I
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  Speaker 3: went back and watched it, Jacob Barrett had a tremendous
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  Speaker 3: block on the outside, had a great block that really
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  Speaker 3: sprung him. And then the long pass to Jeff Weimersy
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  Speaker 3: had big plays. You had big plays. That roughing the
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  Speaker 3: passer call late really hurt. That was on that last
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  Speaker 3: drive by Arizona State where they end up picking the
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  Speaker 3: field goal and I didn't, Tony, I didn't get a
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  Speaker 3: second look at it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't need did you get it?
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  Speaker 3: On that car?
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  Speaker 1: He went low?
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  Speaker 2: But he went low, it's an automatic penalty. The passers
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  Speaker 2: in his in his passing position, legs locked and he
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  Speaker 2: doved his knees. That's an automatic pens the ball out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it was a little bit late, but you also
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  Speaker 2: it's an automatic penalty when you dive low at the knee.
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  Speaker 2: So and again, and I'll get into that. There's some
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  Speaker 2: numbers to back that up. It was a massive play
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  Speaker 2: obviously put him in scoring position. That's tough, though. Man,
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  Speaker 2: You're just trying to make extra effort and make a
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  Speaker 2: play and you're just lunging to get there. And it
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  Speaker 2: was just it was an unfortunate situation there because it
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  Speaker 2: did hurt you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that because otherwise would have been third and
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  Speaker 3: eight and they get a first down. They move the
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  Speaker 3: ball up and they kicked the field goal, and the
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  Speaker 3: hastess Gomez, I mean, he's got a big leg, but
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  Speaker 3: he had not made a ton. I think it was
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  Speaker 3: like fifty from forty. He had forty plus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, after he had had the one blocked. That made
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  Speaker 1: him two for his last five, because he was two
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  Speaker 1: of his last four going into the game and then
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  Speaker 1: he had the one blocked. He was two out of five.
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  Speaker 1: Think about Gomez. Gomez throws the two point conversion pass
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  Speaker 1: and then he drills the forty nine yard field goal.
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  Speaker 1: Probably did not have Jesus Gomez on your Bengo card.
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  Speaker 1: Is the guy that was going to decide the game.
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  Speaker 2: We did not break him down on Friday's house.
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  Speaker 3: But that Gig guys, that thing would have been good
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  Speaker 3: from fifty nine. He just he just he drilled it.
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  Speaker 3: And then in West Virginia couldn't get anything going on
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  Speaker 3: there their last possession. So, by the way, on calls,
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  Speaker 3: and again we talk about calls, I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say all the officials cost him the game, but I
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  Speaker 3: did not like that second call on Fred Perry, you
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  Speaker 3: know when he threw down the runner. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 3: that was a good call, maybe not. I didn't even
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  Speaker 3: like that call at the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: More and more, more and more though this year, it's
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  Speaker 1: almost a guarantee if you have a guy wrapped up
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  Speaker 1: around the waist and you pick him up, here comes
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  Speaker 1: the flag.
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  Speaker 2: Except when it happens to Scotti Fox correct. That's the
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  Speaker 2: only time it doesn't get called. As if Fox is
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  Speaker 2: the one that is body slammed.
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  Speaker 1: Who was that b Yu No that was when recently
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  Speaker 1: that was hou No no, no, yeah, yes, Houston right side.
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  Speaker 1: He ran off to the right side, guy picked him up.
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  Speaker 2: Picked him up, slammed in.
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  Speaker 1: Now yeah but whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it didn't cost it a game. It's just
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  Speaker 3: things were pointing out obvious impatients. So finally, the bottom
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  Speaker 3: line for me is and and Mike Crew my subject
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  Speaker 3: of Crew. I was hanging with my boys. We all agreed.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great effort. It was an entertaining game.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great effort. I mean, this is a
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  Speaker 3: team that was left for dead a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: They rattle off a couple of wins and put a
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  Speaker 3: great effort together on the road against a good team
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  Speaker 3: that's still competing for a league title. And you come
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  Speaker 3: up a little short because you didn't make a couple
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  Speaker 3: of plays and they made a couple of plays, and
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  Speaker 3: you made a couple of mistakes and couldn't get couldn't
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  Speaker 3: get yards, and the artist situation so disappointing because it
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  Speaker 3: was there. You know, I was thinking too that this
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  Speaker 3: Arizona State team when their new coach took over, they
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  Speaker 3: were three and seven they're three and three and nine
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  Speaker 3: something their first year. He only won three games. Last
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  Speaker 3: year won the league title. This year they're competing for
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  Speaker 3: a league title. And I don't want to say you
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  Speaker 3: aspired to the Arizona State, but I think you see
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  Speaker 3: a potential arc there or team like West Virginia. You
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  Speaker 3: can end up with four wins this year probably, and
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  Speaker 3: but you know, you can be optimistic. You can be
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  Speaker 3: hopeful based on the kind of effort you're getting at
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  Speaker 3: the end of this season and the fact that other
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  Speaker 3: teams are doing it too. So didn't come came away disappointed,
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  Speaker 3: but not not in despair because I still think there
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  Speaker 3: are opportunities going forward. Just that this is one that
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  Speaker 3: you just needed. Brand just needed a couple more plays.
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  Speaker 1: Very well done, Hoppy, he's right back. I mean he
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  Speaker 1: just jumped in that saddle. I a cute of music.
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  Speaker 2: Well that was something already thoughts from Hobby's point of view.
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  Speaker 1: Here was right on it.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice. How the low humidity there, how does that
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  Speaker 1: impact your your lip bomb? Were you going to the
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  Speaker 1: can at all. Did you get chapped there at all?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you pretty good?
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  Speaker 3: Not as much? I was pretty good. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: it was, it was a nice day to sit in
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  Speaker 3: the sands. Got a little hot there later in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot of cloud cover, not too hot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: pretty pleasant experience. How was your You were way way
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  Speaker 3: way up there.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but it was Yeah, it was good. I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been there since the nineties when it was a
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  Speaker 1: seventy thousand plus seats. They took twenty thousand seats out.
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  Speaker 1: And some things haven't changed, like the booth was the
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  Speaker 1: same booth. But it was completely fine. It was completely fine.
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  Speaker 1: Just incredibly disappointed by the outcome of the game for
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  Speaker 1: the simple reason, as you just alluded to, Hoppy that
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  Speaker 1: was there. Now you think about it big picture, you
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  Speaker 1: are two and two in your last four games. But
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  Speaker 1: you have now played four straight games of what West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia football is going to be going forward, and that
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  Speaker 1: is an ultra competitive team, but trying to do that
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  Speaker 1: right now in the early going personnel wise and everything
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  Speaker 1: that goes with it. So you are trending up. But
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  Speaker 1: you're two and two and you very well could have
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  Speaker 1: been three and one or even four and oh in
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  Speaker 1: these last four games, which makes it disappointing. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into all that coming up on textual healing as well.
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  Speaker 2: I do think to your point there, if you're trying again,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll give the standard disclaimer that you give and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully after this year you don't have to give them
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  Speaker 2: any more of these program wasn't built on moral victories.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're trying to be real and look where
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  Speaker 2: this team was in that five game losing skit, and
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: look where they've come, I think a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: jumped to me and Tony this was note number one
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  Speaker 2: on my notes, But you said it when you first
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  Speaker 2: walked in the studio. You hit part of it right there.
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  Speaker 2: That's an Arizona State team, Hopey said it won the
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  Speaker 2: league last year. They're still theoretically in contention. They're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have a good season, go to a bowl. They're missing
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  Speaker 2: two of their best offensive players. I get that, but
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia is as well and missing more than just two,
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  Speaker 2: missing a boatload of them. And that's a game not
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  Speaker 2: should have won. You walk out of there saying or
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  Speaker 2: not could have one? You walk out saying probably should
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  Speaker 2: have won that game. You had more opportunities. I'll get
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  Speaker 2: into some of the numbers that normally indicate a win
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  Speaker 2: when you end up with the numbers, we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought, from from a macro standpoint, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about this team from where it was, and are you
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  Speaker 2: seeing in per movement and are you seeing individuals and
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  Speaker 2: hop you talked about the explosive plays that we didn't
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  Speaker 2: see for a big stretch of this season. Multiple different
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  Speaker 2: guys with big time plays that came through, didn't do
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  Speaker 2: enough to get the win, and still too many mistakes
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  Speaker 2: to get over the hump there to get a win.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think there's something you can take out
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  Speaker 2: of that second part of that that's a companion piece
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  Speaker 2: that goes along with it. I thought Rich's postgame press
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  Speaker 2: conference probably indicates and backs up everything we're saying right there.
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  Speaker 2: It's the first time the old Rich, I think, has
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: come out in a postgame press conference or even a
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  Speaker 2: regular weekly Tuesday press conference.
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  Speaker 1: He was hot, sizzling.
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  Speaker 2: If he said it once, he said it one hundred times,
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  Speaker 2: that you got to be able to get this much
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  Speaker 2: and he put his hands up like that. I mean
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  Speaker 2: how many times did he say that? He could have
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  Speaker 2: just said that and just repeated it and kept going
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  Speaker 2: and then walked away after thirty seconds. So you could
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: tell he was highly agitated walking out of there without
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  Speaker 2: the win. And that's the first time I've seen him
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  Speaker 2: react that way, which tells me he moved past the
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  Speaker 2: what can we do here?
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  Speaker 1: Too?
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  Speaker 2: We could have had that win, should have had that win,
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  Speaker 2: should have been walking out here with a win, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: No, totally.
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  Speaker 2: He was different after that game than he's been all year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming right, I mean, you're right. He this
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  Speaker 1: year has been difficult for a bunch of different reasons.
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  Speaker 1: And for him, Number one, he's not used to losing.
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  Speaker 1: That's one. Number Two, he knew that his hands were
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  Speaker 1: going to be a little bit restricted to what he
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  Speaker 1: could do because they got in here without a full
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: recruiting cycle. One then you have this unbelievable, unprecedented number
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of injuries during the course of the season, So he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of been trying to manage that and that's been
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: bumming him out.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And you haven't seen him lose his mind a whole lot,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: either in game or postgame.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Right, So he's been kind of okay, okay, I know
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta do. I know I got. And now he
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: went out there and he went, oh yeah, okay, I got.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I've been here before, I know how to do this.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: And then getting close, We're getting close, and then you
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: have the ability to gain the first down on these
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: short yards place. Then you have penalties for personal file,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: penalties at one point two back to back at a
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: face mask and then and then the personal file there.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: So like to him, the furnace, the furnace had hit
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: its point. He just exploded, right, which tells us it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the same rich seventeen years later, we get that. But
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he knows he's closer than he is farther away, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he just can't wait, can't wait to get the pieces
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: that he needs because then he will go on the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: redemption tour and you know, next year, you could already
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: theme this thing is what it's going to be, and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he will have all the fuel that he needs and
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: he will use that going forward. But unfortunately, you hit
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a super low point here, because that was so it
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was so right there in your hand.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought that was tell him the way
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: he reacted that both in game two he got after
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Fox once. That was as much as I've seen him
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: get after one of the quarterbacks this year. That looked
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: like old school Rich when he expects so much out
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of you and you're not delivering. So I just thought
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that kind of backed up what we saw out there,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that this was a game you should have walked out
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of there with a win.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, guys, you as you alluded to, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you need to be able
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to do and a lot of things that need to
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: be corrected, but at its base level, you have to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: be able to get a yard. You know, I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: care what you do. I don't care what your offensive
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: strategy is. I don't care who your players are. You
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: have to be able to get a yard. And as
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Dwight Wallace likes to say, one man with courage makes
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a majority. And if you and that, that was very
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: revealing in this game. You couldn't get a yard or
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: two when you had to, and that was a difference
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: in this game.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the essence, And that's the essence of
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the game of football, right, That's the essence of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: game of football. And you came up short in doing that.
• 18:51
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• 18:53
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  Speaker 1: this week. We'll talk about that, by the way, that
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's sold out. Imagine that, like literally sold out.
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  Speaker 1: gonna have music, We're gonna have fun. And it's between
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the two games that West Virginia plays, because West Virginia
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is off on Saturday. Meanwhile, I don't want to be
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a prisoner of the moment, but I will be. What
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the WVU women's basketball team did on Friday night, oh my,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is the most I don't want to go too far
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: over the top, but it is truly one of the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: most amazing things in sports that I have ever witnessed.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: My initial thought was, it's a combination of all of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the movies that we grew up watching, like Rocky, like
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Field of Dreams, like Miracle on Ice, like Name every Hoosiers,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like it was all wrapped up into one thing. Someone
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in the text chat coming up in here a little
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: bit later, they said, well, we need to name and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: have a nickname for the five Mountaineers who played the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: entire second half, and I thought they hit it perfectly.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Called them the white sulfur five.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: That was good. I saw WV women's basketball count called
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: him just the Greenbrier five, which comes off, rolls off
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the tongue better.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I think white sulfur five is better because that is
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: white sulfur five. Anyway, I was listening to the game
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at halftime when it all happened, and a couple of things. One,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get the ejections because if you come
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: off the bench, automatic automatic. Right. Personally, I thought the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: exchange between Jordan Harrison and the Duke player, I thought
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that Warranton would would yeah a technical on each That's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what I thought that was. I didn't think that's ejection.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many times in a game do you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: go like boom, okay, get back. Anyway, the fact that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it took those officials over thirty minutes to figure out
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: what the call was is absolutely high school. Harry, are
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you freaking kidding me? You can't do that in thirty minutes.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Thirty minutes, that was ridiculous. Point that's the one thing
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: people aren't talking about. They're got more upset that they
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: kicked the players. To me, it's like, it took you
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes to do that, not good, not good anyway,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: forget about that. What those girls did simply breathtaking. You
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: had four reserves, you had one starter, and you're down
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: at halftime, and they lined up and said, oh, is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that right? You only gonna let us play with five?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Let me certainly show you something. What's outstanding?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm not CC goes six minutes, six and a
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: half minutes with four fouls. They're attacking her, and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: know she had to just back off a couple times.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Six and a half minutes with four files when the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: other team is in intentionally trying to get you out
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of the game, and you don't foul out. That was unbelievable. Well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that really was a remarkable That was That was perfect too,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: because you and I share the share the weirdness gene.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I love weird things. The fact you're playing that thing
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: in that ballroom, have been there for the the Grinch,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Whoville Christmas buffet, been in their hobby. You had the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: buffet in that room, and they're in there and it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: packed in and there's thirteen hundred seats, but it feels
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: like there's seven. And it's and it's loud, and it's chaotic,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and it's weird. It was perfect that that happened in
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that event in that building allowed it to get even louder.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: That was great.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: That was just the whole thing was surreal standing in surreal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing was surreally. Go ahead.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: It made it. It made a couple of things about it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: One is it was surreal. It was historic. It made
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: national news, I mean national news. Six players kicked out,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: you finished with five, and you win the game. That
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: was a That was a national story Number one. Number
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: two is that I'm with you, guys or Tony was
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: what you said. Jordan would taunted after the block. Okay,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get in like school yards she started,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: but she taunted, you can't do what she did, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: then Jordan Harrison came back with the push. I get
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that you can't come off the bench, but I agree
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: with you. Like, look, if the players had not come
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: off the bench, I think you could have just offsetting
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: technicals and move on. But to win the game the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: way they did was historic. But I think I'm going
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: to go with Greenbrier five. I like Greenbrier five.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Rolls off the tongue top fifteen team. That's the other part.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I don't care who they would have beaten in that situation,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it would have been an unbelievable win. To do it
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: against the fifteenth ranked team in the country, that's what
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: makes it even more unbelievable and puts it further up
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the chart in the Mountaineer lore.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Going forward, I'll be very interested to see what the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: lasting implications are from this game for West Virginia. You
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: would think now that it will have a mindset that,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: regardless of the situation that they are in, that they
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: will take you down to the absolute final second one two.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: That may leave a permanent scar on Duke. Their mentality
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: has been absolutely scolded by this performance. Which way do
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: they go? Which way do they go? Now? Think about
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in the surreal category, how bizarre had it was it
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: for them? They're in that silly ballroom. It's all West
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Virginia people. Now, all you need to do is give
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: a West Virginia a reason to be pissed off, right,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So you kick out, you kick out those six players,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and those Mountaineer fans and the crowd go.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Against Duke, against Duke. He's not a fan favorite to begin.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: With, exactly private this then, oh really, and that was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a great is that right?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Game?
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Is that right? Those walls, those walls inside that ballroom.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, the walls had to be buzzing. You could
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: just feel it and hear it. And I think the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Duke players at some point had to be where in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the hell am I great? Been great? And Kellogg coach
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: K the real coach K? How beautiful was he? His
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: demeanor like he could have flipped out and been just
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: miserable and mad at the officials the whole thing, But
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: instead he went the other way and.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Change and change style of play too. Sure that's also
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean again, not not that you needed evidence that
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Mark Kellogg's a really good basketball coach, but that's further evidence. Right,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: he had to switch how they play. You had to
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: change offensive scheme, defensive schemes, slow it down a little.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: He had to go into a different mode and did.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And then again I always say this, that's fine. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: mean I would expect Mark, one of the elite coaches
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: to be able to do that. The players then executed
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: something that they're not used to doing. They had to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: play differently. Sure, a great job all the way around.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I think that the Greenbrier has this incredible history, so
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: now I think you have of its history you have, Well,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: it had the bunker there in case there's a nuclear attack.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: It had it as a hospital during World War two.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And as where West Virginia beat Duke with five players
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: with five players, that now moves up in terms of
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the historic significance of the Green Bar.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Well, don't forget the Great Tea service too as well.
• 28:12
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• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun. Good for that in all time,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: That's an all time moment in the history of the program.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I agree you guys like Greenberg five. I like White
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Sulfur five better. Anyway, we move on, coming up textual
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  Speaker 2: Couple things I mentioned earlier. There were going to be
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: some numbers that you walk out of that game and say,
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  Speaker 2: normally you hit those benchmarks, excuse me, you win the game.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Out gained them by nearly one hundred yards total yards
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: out first downed them twenty to eighteen out yard per
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: played them six yards per play for West Virginia, just
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: under five for Arizona State. Usually get those three categories
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that would you walk out with a win. Again, as
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: we knew, Let's go back to Friday's preview episode and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: look at some of our keys and see how they
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: shook out. First thing we said, West Virginia's ability to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: run it was going to be a key. Some of
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the raw stats showed that Arizona State's rush defense was
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: pretty good, but you looked underneath that they were just
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: one ten nationally and EPA per rush ninety fourth nationally
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: in success rates. So that would tell you thought maybe
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: you could run it a little bit. You could not.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: West Virginia average is one point seven yards per carry,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and it was really only two point seven if you
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: remove the sack. So just couldn't get it done. We
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: already mentioned and Rich did afterwards. Just needed to get
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a yard a couple of different times, and that game
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: is different. So the inability to run it down by
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the goal line really cost you. A couple numbers power
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: rushing stat here, and that means rushes with two yards
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: or less to go that convert into first downs or touchdowns.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Ooh, this is a good you pulled this one out.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You normally don't do this one. This is a new category.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Try and evolve.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this go ahead. So this
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: is say that again.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Rushes with two or less yards to go that are
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: converted to first downs or touchdowns.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: This isn't going to be good.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: One for seven.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one for seven.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: So there's the story of the game. Could stop right there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Success rate running the football I just mentioned Arizona State
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: was ninety fourth nationally in this category. Your success rate
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: was only thirty nine percent. Under forty is considered below average.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Over fifty is considered above average. So still just a
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: below average day with success rate running the football. Soh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that's number one. So key number one didn't come to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: fruition that puts you in some jeopardy right there. Number two,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: we said, can West Virginia limit the Arizona State rushing attack?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: It was a little bit different offense with no Levitt
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and Sims in there. And I'll get to Sims in
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: a minute, because we spent some time breaking him down. Hoppy,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you mentioned the good performance that he had. You just
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: you allowed. We talked about Arizona State's explosive ability in
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the run game eighty fourth percentile in rush explosive percentage.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Commented that Colorado was even better in that category, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: West Virginia limited them. It started out okay, just one
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: run of ten yards or more in the first half.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Only three rushing plays of over ten yards in the game,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: just forty seven yards off those what are considered big
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: rushing plays of ten yards more. Just three of those
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: all day for forty seven yards. So you did your
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: job right there. But what was it that got you?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: It was the pass place Five pass plays of fifteen
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: yards or more in the first half alone. Sims was
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: very effective throwing it. Let's go rushing stat for Arizona
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: State again, rushes with two or less yards to go
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: that converted to first downs or touchdowns zero for five.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You held their run game in check. You did exactly
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: what you wanted. Hold their run game in check, don't
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: give up big rushing plays, make Sims throw the football.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And then what was the companion piece to that? You
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: had to get pressure on him, right, You had to
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: get pressure on Sims, and you just you didn't get there.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: So I'll get more to that here in a second.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: That was hopefully going to force long third downs if
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: you limited the run, right, we talked about that Friday,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Slow the rundown, force them into third and long, get
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: pressure when Sims really struggles under pressure, put them in
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: long situations. They had averaged seven and a half yards
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: per third down? Did Arizona state? It was one hundred
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and six nationally. In the game, guys, you held them
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to an average of eight point two yards per third down.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You structure this exactly what you wanted, Hopy, You held
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the run game in check, didn't give up big rushing plays,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: force Sims to throw it in long third down situations.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: But he came through seven of ten for one to
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: seventeen on third downs, seven to ten passing for one
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to seventeen on third down. Now, let's talk about Sims specifically,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: we went deep into him Tony. We talked about his
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: his prone miss. Yeah, that's a word to turning it over. Well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: he gave you something. He gave you two fumbles. You
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: only got one and it was on a fourth down,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: so you were getting the ball anyway. That fumble early
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: was one of those plays early in the game, along
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: with the field goal instead of a touchdown on the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: first drive, the non conversion on the second drive, you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: got no points, and then he fumbled it early. We
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: told you guys, he was going to fumble the ball.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: He did twice. You only got one of them and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you couldn't convert that in. He did not throw any picks.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: That was a surprise there that he didn't give you
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a pick. He was very good through the air. He
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: flipped his career numbers. He had been a a two
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: to one turnover worthy play to big time throw guy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: He flipped that he had two big time throws, no
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: turnover worthy plays. Threw it for sixty eight percent. A
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: lot of that was just simply you didn't get any pressure.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: He was a thirty eight percent passer under pressure. You
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: never made him uncomfortable. You were credited with just one
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: quarterback hurry and one sack on the day. It's an
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: absolute stark contrast to what you did to Houston and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Colorado's quarterbacks and Pitt. If you want to go back thousand,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: there's your story. Couldn't run it in short yardage, that
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: power rushing number. You didn't get pressure on. Sim's a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: guy who had struggled in his entire career with being
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: pressured in turnovers and you just couldn't get to him.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That's a story.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Totally agree with you. He stood back and delivered the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: ball and you're unable to get any kind of pressure
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: on him, consistent pressure, which you did as you said
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: against Juju Lewis last week, and then against Connor Wigman
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of Houston. You were all up into their face and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you could not get to this guy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yep, there's a story. So credit to him. He did
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: something that he hasn't done for most of his career
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and he beats You lined up, had a pretty good game,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: even though you were executing the game plan defensively, you
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: just couldn't quite get at home in the few areas
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: where you needed to. So there's it. Oh wait, I'm sorry,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I got one more category. You guys find this interesting,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: so well, we'll do this one the most important plays
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of the game. What swung win probability the most Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: like the the fox to sincere Bowers play. Glad we
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: finally got to see his speed. I mean he made
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: guys miss too. That one't just straight speed. Guys were
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: like falling at his ankles all over.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really really fast. You think he got tired.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Well, he was on the oxygen machine over when he
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: got to the sideline.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I said this during the broadcast. He actually wanted
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the oxygen at the fifteen yard.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had guys coming up talk to him.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm not talking to you. I gotta get
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: this air. I gotta get this air. I'll be back
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: to you in a minute. That's that ninety yard touchdown,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: which was really ninety five because he caught it on
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the five and then he ran across the field. He
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: did run across He's caught on the right side, ran
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: all the way to left.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth could probably give you a stat to how
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: many yards he actually ran. He was well over one
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: hundred hours.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: We had next gen stats like the NFL does it
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and usually shows that. Yeah, that added forty six percent
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to your win probability.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: That's amazing number.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And it feels like you that right, feels like you
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: had had one when that happened. The Fox to Whimer
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: big play, Hoppy you alluded to both those big plays earlier.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Those were great both great to see. That added eleven
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: percent to your win probability, which was really good. On
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the Arizona State side. A figure you'd ask me about this.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: The third down pass from Sims right before the game
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: winning field goal that was incomplete cost Arizona State fifteen
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: percent win probability. But then they kicked the field goal
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: on the very next play, so they go forcing them
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: into a forty nine yard field goal on the third
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: down play. When you got the stop, you thought, all right,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you may be in good shape. That swung it back
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to West Virginia. The roughing the passer penalty added ten
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: percent to Arizona State's win probability. I'll be honest, it
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: felt like it was bigger than that, didn't it, because
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: of the fifteen yards it gave them, But in actual numbers,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: it gave them ten percent to their win probability.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, does the forty nine yard
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: field goal by Gomez. Did that change their win probability
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to one hundred percent? No?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But it it It was a significant play.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it. Why wouldn't have that because you still
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: got the ball? Okay, but I thought it would be
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I mean it was.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It was way up there, but it will be over eighty.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was way over that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There's some numbers. Yeah. To me
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that when I walked out without looking at broken down numbers.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: To me, it was the fact that you did not
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: get Sims to turn the ball over like you were
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: supposed to. Didn't ley, You didn't hit.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Them, you didn't get the interceptions, you got the fumbles.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, he'd been fumble prone in his career. He
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: was two to one in fumbles to rushing touchdowns. That
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: that came to fruition. You just didn't get back on
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: top of the one, and he didn't throw the guys.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I was sitting there watching it thing, and I was
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I was channeling Brad because I thought, as this game
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: went on, I thought, Sims is gonna give you. He's
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: gonna throw you one. He's gonna throw you one, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you just never you just never got it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, guys, if just as a macro conversation,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: we talk about these numbers sometimes and there are times
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: when it comes out and it doesn't mean anything, doesn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: show anything. It is interesting on those quarterback numbers, how
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: often that has hit this year. We talked about it
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: against Ohio. You, we talked about it against Holstein. We
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: talked about Connor Wegman at Houston. We didn't have any
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: numbers on Juju. There were and then this game were guys,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: they're underlying metrics told you they were. They were turnover
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: machines there in every one of them. It came up
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: with the turnovers. Pretty interesting how those have told the
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: story in that regard.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Going all the way back to Parker Novarro.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: We said Parker Navarro was going to give you something.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He did you just couldn't cash in on that.
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• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You're ready now for textual healing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to talk basketball real quick?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk basketball.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: We can do it real quickly.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Here, go ahead.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Lafayette's coming up Monday. I'll give you a quick look
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: at them. But first let's I want to look at
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: some numbers real quick for West Virginia overall, because as
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: we get going here, some trends are starting to develop.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: As West Virginia started four and oh, that's the best
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: start by a first year coach since Fred Shaus began
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: five and h oh, fred was pretty good. That was
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Off to a great start here. West Virginia
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: now twenty six nationally in adjusted efficiency defense. So makes
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: some sense, right with what you've seen. Top twenty five
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: now in effective field goal percentage defense, top thirty one
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: in turnover percentage thirty six. We talked about this Friday,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: tony thirty sixth now in the country in defensive rebounding.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I know that was a big concern for people. After
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: one game, you've now climbed into the top forty in
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: that area. These defensive numbers are fantastic. Thirty first in
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: free throw attempt rate, so you're still getting to the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: free throw line of bunch. But overall point there, that defense,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: as we thought it would under Ross Hodge is starting
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to come along. And a couple notes here, guys we
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: said this Friday the three point shooting still hasn't arrived
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: in the big bunches that I do think it will
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: as we as we get throughout this season. But a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: couple of those guys, I was watching some film yesterday
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and talking to Ross about this. There were some things.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Number one, trace and Eaglestaff's defense. I can't stress how
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: far that has come from June. He had a really
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: good defensive game against Pittsburgh. Being in the right place,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that defensive shell got to a point against Pitt exactly
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: where you wanted to get. There were multiple possessions where
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's defense was literally almost perfect for how they
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: want to do it. Now, you just keep expanding that out.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: What was that Ross told us the other day. You
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: take the periods where things went well and try and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: extend those periods out right, that got better against Pitt.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Traycon was one of those defensively that's come a long way.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And then Honor Huff and this doesn't show up anywhere
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: on the stats. He had a couple screens. Did you
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: have this on your Bengal card that we'd be talking
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: about Honor Huff's ability to screen.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He was the screener two.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Different times that freed up Harlan o Bioha for an
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: easy basket that don't show up anywhere on the stats
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: that contribute to you winning that game. I under did
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: that really good. One was down in the lane like
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: he went down in the paint on a backstrin that
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: stood right there, took the hit from a bigger guy,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: left Harlan wide open for a layup. Those are the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: things that if you're just looking surfacely, that you don't
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: pick up. But a guy like Tracon and Honor, two
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: guys that were brought in and hailed for their offensive prowess.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Playing defense and then setting screens. That's ultimately how you
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: win some games. So I want to make sure we
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: shouted both of those guys out for doing some of
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the little things.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Ken Palm's computer not in love with West Virginia. As
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: the Mountaineers at sixty two, if you're wondering, that puts
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: them in the Big twelve. If you take Ken Palm,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it puts them at eleventh in the Big twelve. It
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: has them above UCF, Arizona State, TCU, Colorado, and Utah.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It has these teams above West Virginia. So here's the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: question for you as the season goes on, can you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: beat these teams overall? As far as the league race
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: goes Can you be better than Kansas State? Can you
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: be better than Oklahoma State? Can you be better than Cincinnati?
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: If you do, that would take you to eighth.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: In the league, which should be a tournament team.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Kansas is seven, Baylor six, BYU five, Texas Tech four,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Arizona three, Iowa State two, and Houston.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: In Ken Palm right now, ken'sa is very interesting. Do
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you see Bill Self's comments yesterday Darren Peterson out and said,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: won't have him for the immediate future.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: What's going on there?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Don't know and don't know how long immediate future is.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a significant quote from him yesterday. Peterson,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: one of the most valued freshmen in the country, thought
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to be one of the top one or two picks
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in the upcoming NBA draft, out for the quote immediate future.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: According to Bill Self, see what that means?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Ken Palm's computer just a couple of nuggets. So tomorrow's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: game against Lafayette, the computer gives West Virginia a ninety
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: eight percent chance to win. Howsomever? Next Friday night, kertchievill
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: will be in attendance down there at Charleston, South Carolina.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Mountaineers given just a thirty four percent chance to beat
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the Clemsons. The Clemsons got beat by the Georgetowns. Georgetown's
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: off to a good start, Yes they are cool. He
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: going there. So that gives West Virginia just a thirty
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: four percent chance to be Clemson. So this will be
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a super fun tournament for West Virginia. We were there
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: before and Mountaineer fans love that venue. There will be
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: a ton of Mountaineer fans there, and so that's going
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to be that'll be a fun week and we'll see
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: exactly where West Virginia figures in here against other powerful opponents.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: One last number, This is for Monday, and then as
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: you get into this tournament. I mentioned this Friday, but
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: let's watch and see if there's some positive regression coming here.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: West Virginia eighty first percentile with frequency for LiveBall turnovers,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: so they're creating a lot of turnovers, but they're forty
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: fifth percentile in points per possession, so they're not cashing
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: those in at the same rate in which they're creating them.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Some of that's due to three pointers, although they've shot
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: it well from three off a LiveBall turnover, shooting forty
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: four percent in those situations. So I would think that
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: number can continue to creep up a little bit there
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in terms of points per possession. But watch that it
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: starts on Monday. Lafayette hasn't turned it over a lot,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: but they haven't seen a defense like they're going to
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: see Monday night.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: All right, let's heal themselves.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Just an obvious observation about this basketball team.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Early.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: I know it's early. I know it's early. That was
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: as good against Pitt. I know you've got talked about that.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: That's as good a defensive performance as you'll see I
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: think for a basketball team. And also early take this,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: this is a pretty talented team. I think they're more
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: talented than last year. And they got some guys you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: it just just guys that stand out as more talent.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I thought Laurent can Marion can do some amazing things
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: with the basketball. He's a step above a lot of
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: other players. And I like Harlan down on the block.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you big.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Harlan's been out to a great start, yep.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And the piece is still the pieces still aren't all there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: As I keep saying, chance more will make a significant difference,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: give you opportunities to do different things with his body type,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and then eventually Jackson Fields will as well.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And Jackson Fields I think is going to really change
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: his team. That gives you another big that can jump
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: and run inside there to go with Harlan and DJ.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Now when he plays, he doesn't use those designer glasses
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that he's been wearing during the games. Right, you're gonna
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: take those off? Correct? Yeah, that's a stylish look though, Yeah, correct.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Very good. Also, when Hoppy comes back in the studio,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: you'll be back in here if we record Tuesday or Wednesday,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: correct of this week?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what day?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: We'll either going to do Tuesday Wednesday. But I don't
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: want to the reason why you've been gone recently. We
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: want to spend some time on that and maybe show
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: a picture, maybe show a picture of two on Hoppy's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: excellent adventure. Right now, let's heal everybody. Let's heal. Time
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• 50:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of people start to ask about the olive oil.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Really good stuff. We'll get into that three guys before
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the game. So you know, we're going to be in Charleston,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: South Carolina for the event on Saturday. We encourage people
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: to attend if you've got tickets. Their low Country Mountaineer
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Alumni group is going to be involved with that, along
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: with Golden Blue Enterprises. Then in a couple of weeks
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: after that in Charleston, West Virginia, looking forward to doing
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a live event the night before the Wake Forest game.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: And as previously reported on this program, we're going to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: have a really special guest with us efforting that day.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Not confirmed. So here we go. Hey, three guys, I
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: want to thank all of you for bringing up the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: dangers of candy cigarettes a couple of episodes back. I
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: know the dangers firsthand. I was a two pack a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: day man when I was eleven years old. After a
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: long day of wheeling and dealing base ball cards in
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. It always took the edge off. When my
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: friends started getting secondhand hypoglycemia, it was time to quit ps.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Harlan's the best passing true big man we've ever had
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: in a long time. I can't think of one in
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. It would be close. Love
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the show. Pete and Pennsborough. Good to see he got
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: rid of that. I mean he was a two packa
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: day candy cigarette guy. Not good for you and could
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: lead into problems Texter. This message is for the jackass
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: who pushed the Marshall soccer player after Sunday's game. Grow up,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: you're a grown ass man. Act like it instead of
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a petulant twelve year old idiot. Self control is a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: lost virtue among men these days. Be the man in
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the arena, not the moron embarrassing everyone. Go Mountaineers, Jay
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: in Asheville, North Carolina. He's not happy, Texter, and we're
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: gonna get So. There's a general theme to a lot
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of the football related tech and I could have put
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: them into the chat GPT blender and broken them down.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: But in essence, this is kind of the theme that
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of three points I have to make.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I've heard great coaches say, if you're at home, you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: go for that yard on fourth down, but on the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: road you take the points. One of the field goals
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: would have won. Two. Their defense is better against the rump.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Perhaps we should have passed it more in the red zone.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: And three where was the jumbo package of offensive linemen
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that we used earlier in the year.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: At one point of clarification, their defense actually number wise,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: was better against the pass. They were fortieth nationally defensive
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: success rate against the past ninety fourth against rush.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: As we outlined, Yeah, you'll see a general theme on
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: these is this questioning Rich's decision to go for the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: touchdown or the first down rather than kick field goals.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: A lot of that questioning, and quite honestly, you know,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: in play while it was happening, I don't have an
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: issue with it. Quite honestly, I think Rich knew the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: number of points he needed to win the game. And
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I think he also, especially on those first two possessions
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to start the game, he had to settle for the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: field goal the first time, but he wanted those points
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: on the second possession. And to me to this point, yeah,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: you can go back and do mathematics and say, hey,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: what could have should have? But in the moment, I
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: didn't have issues.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: What about you, guys, I think I get what you're
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: doing there, and you're right, you left points out there.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't take advantage of the points. I
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: think what he would answer this, and you can see
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: where he's coming from. It's two things. His belief and
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: he said it in the postgame a million times. He
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: just thinks you should be able to get one yard,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: even if they know you're running it right, So that
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: was that's first in his mindset. Number two, given how
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: much West Virginia struggled to sustain drives, never mind just
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: put points up in general, sustain drives. The fact that
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: you're down close and early, you could have put a
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: real dagger into them. I'm sure he's thinking to himself,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many times we're gonna be able
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: to get back in here. One two we mentioned this
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: hasn't been an explosive offense either, so you were gonna
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: have to try and drive down the field, which has
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: been part of the problem. You ended up with two
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: explosive plays. I get it, But early in that game,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sure his thinking was, I don't know how many
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: times we're gonna get down here against what's a pretty
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: good defense. I better try and put seven on the board,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: is my guess.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: That's my guest too. That's my thinking. Steve from Virginia
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Beach Rights. Okay, guys, before we officially say check please
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: on this football season. Losing to Arizona State was like
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: a trip to the emergency room. You show up thinking
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it's just heartburn. Next thing you know, you hook up
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: to multiple machines with the doctor saying you need a
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: triple bypass telling you to slow down on the tutor's biscuits.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: But let's remember owning pit in football and basketball was
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the extra gravy on the side. Well worth the er visit.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Disappointing year, yeah, but worth it to clown pit until
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: twenty t twenty nine. Time to focus on hoops. By
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the way, the women's team truly brought the hard edge
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: unbelievable historic win. Texter, Hello crew, Matt from Clear Mountain
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Bank here. I wanted to share a quick update on
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: our Suncrest branch sign. Look what they did there. So
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: they had the So the history on that is they
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: put their beat pit sign up before the backyard brawl
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: in football, right then after West Virginia beat him in football,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: they put up the wei beat pit above that. And
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: now with the basketball they got two of their fine
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: folks that work there and they're holding up the sign again.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: So we beat Pitt again. Very nice, well done, Well done,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Well done, Matt, very good. We had a couple of
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: these texts and we can talk about this a little bit.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Not to sound stuffy, but I will. The fan version
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: of sweet Caro line is beneath the dignity of the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: institution which has produced seventeen Rhodes Scholars. Suspect many parents
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and maybe including some coaches with children in attendance, cringe
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: at the choice words. The song only fosters the image
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of a crude, vulgar, and classless people that West Virginian
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: should be trying to dispel. I suspect that others or
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: orders from the top to ban the song at pit
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: events would fail, perhaps even generating more enthusiasm for the song.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I don't have a solution, only a lament signed by
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: aj NPA, And there were a couple of those questioning
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the use of Sweet Caroline. I. So here's where I am.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Here's where I am on that. As you know, I'm
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: not really big into taunts one school to another as taunt. However,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: there are exceptions, and I have no problem whatsoever in
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: letting that go. For a couple of different reasons. One
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: two things can be true. You can have seventeen Rhodes
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Scholars and be an academic institution, but you can also
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: be who you really are. And what is West Virginia.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: West Virginia is gritty. West Virginia takes no crap from anyone,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and I personally like, I'm huge in like those across
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the pond soccer chants where they have this great stuff.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: So I actually enjoy it. I like it because I've
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: been to Pitt and I've heard the constant incest jokes
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: and this and that with your sister, and it's like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: hey man, it's fair game and it's in use, and
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I think people love it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: So you do have to do some explaining to your
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: kids when they're little about it. Understood, there is a
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: little bit of that. I understand what the text are saying.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I think it is one of the listen golden blue
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: glasses on here. I get it, one of the all
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: time great hijacks of another school's tradition. It like there
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: has to be a part of a lot of Pitt
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: fans that just cringe when it starts because they know
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: what West Virginia fans are going to give him. You've
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: taken their tradition and absolutely just hijacked the thing. It's
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a pretty good time. When you talk about taunting of
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: schools and going back and forth and what rivalries mean,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: that's a that's pretty high on the list of things
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: you can do. You took their deal and made it
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: your own. Stolen that pretty good? Doesn't happened a lot?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Jake, is Hoppy still with us? Do we
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: have Hopstile here? Or did he go away? He must
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: have gone away. He's not in the box Kerchiefell disappeared again.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: He won? Oh no, okay, good, good, good good? Why
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: am I doing that? I had your volume done? I'm sorry,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: my bad, that's my bad. I'm sorry. I thought you
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: went away and I looked up there and see him.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, here, what do you what do you think about?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Sweet Caro lot?
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I think that that like you all made good points
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: and brag, like you said, you got to explain to
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: the kids. But it's a it's a rivalry. It's the
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: most intense rivalry. Number one. Number two. You want to
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: make this more of it, institution, try to ban it,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: it'll become more of a thing. So it is what
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: it is. It's not it's not a big deal. It's
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: a it's a it's a slightly vulgar part of what
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: is a really good rivalry.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: And you live with it. Yeah and again, and I'm
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: nationally it's become a thing. I mean nationally, like people know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: like Warren Sapp defensive line coach for Colorado while the
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: game was going on, and West Virginia played it at
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: the Colorado game like he was. He was outwardly laughing.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: It's it's a thing. So if you got to be
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: known for something, be known for being crazy passionate fans boom.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: It's just to compliment the country roads. Uh, Texter, this
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: is funny, Scott, and Stafford writes the hot start for
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the WVU men's basketball team is great news for North
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Carolina a tournament hopes.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: That's well done, Scott. That's that's might be in the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: textual Healing Hall of Fame. That is superb, excellent, well done.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: One of the most ridiculous decisions in sports, no question,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: the westerream was left out and that they got in.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: So last episode we were talking about when did West
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Virginia block a punt for a score? When did the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: last time happen? Remember and the gentleman that said Oklahoma
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: State And I looked in the box and the box
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't say block punt, But guess what they did. They
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: did The guy should sent me a video link. Blocked
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it at about the one yard line and just carried
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the ball in so it had it did happen, So
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we got to go find what were
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: those guys saying the rules on it like they were?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Why did they say that that that was the last block?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Since they got that screwed up? Rich in Williamsburg, Virginia,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: T see please explain the naming of Hope Coliseum. So
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the explaining the name of the Hope Colseum. So obviously
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: they sold the name to Hope Gas ten year deal.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: The numbers out there right, people know what the number is?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Has that been foied out?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Don't know?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: It's about ten eleven, twelve million.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I think now it's twenty three million over ten years,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: two point three million dollars a year. So anyway, I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: guess I did. Anyway, So obviously in the world that
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you're living in now, you need more revenue dollars. The
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: athletic department with revenue share has been, you know, put
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: to the task. You need to come up with twenty
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: million dollars this year and then every year going forward
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: more for revenue share. And so everything is up in
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: play to try to find different ways and streams of revenue.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: And that is one of those. And if you mean
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: why doesn't it say Hope Gas Coliseum. That's because Hope
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Gas wants it known as the Hope Colisseum. Because I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: think they want to be known and want to do
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: more things outside of just Gas and being known as Gas.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I think they want to be known, you know, as
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a partner and everything that they do. And there's a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: bunch of other things that they are doing with the university,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and so that's kind of where it is. I'll just
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: read a little bit of this. I'm appalled at the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: action involving Neil Diamond, Sweet Caroline. I understand rivalries make sports,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: but allowing this unsportsmanlike action that disrespects the institution of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: pitt The song was written in honor of Caroline Kennedy
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: and the songwriter Neil Diamond. I get the rival bye,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: but when do we teach respect for our opponents, which
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is one of the steps of sportsmanship, if not the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: number one step. I can see a whole younger generation
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: thinking this is the norm in society. Thus that same
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: disrespect will trickle down to high school sports and further well,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: guess what that horse is out of the barn? And
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: if a sweet Caroline for what's going on in our
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: world right now. If Sweet Caroline is the thing, trust me,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the dam has already broken in that regard. Trust me.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I was in Morgantown with my dad for the big
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: win Thursday. Now we're in DC. This morning. We went
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: to the International Spy Museum, and I cannot confirm nor
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: deny that Oliver Straw's dead Anthony has an exhibit there.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I can confirm. We are head to do a bar
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: to watch West Virginia play football. Texter, had our chance
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: at the end just came up short. Better days ahead,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: for sure. Would have been nice to get a bowl game.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But hey, maybe this will allow time extra for recruiting.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Another person said, when you're on the road, you take
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the points. Field goals are okay, you can get fourth
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: downs and if you can't get fourth downs inside of
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the five, Texter, I may have sent this message before,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: but I've been emphasizing this since the twenty eighteen Oklahoma game.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: When will coaches start taking the three points shot until
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: they absolutely have to? Seems like almost every time points
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: are missed, the team that misses them ends up losing
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: by two or three. It's a widespread issue. Shepherd in
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: South Charleston. Another person take the points in the end zone. Please,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Texas says you can second guess every call, but you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: have to show trust in your team when you can
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: get a yard. We fought hard, came up short. We're
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: setting the tone for the future. Hey, three guys, or
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: is it two and a half? No, he's here. I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: get no such thing as moral victories, but man, we
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: were close. If you would have told me after stomping
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: the stomping that we took at Kansas, we would have
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: had four wins. I really don't know I'd believe it,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: especially if you said we're down to a true freshman
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: and rotating running backs. I would have thought, well, there's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: always next year. But the fight that this team has
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't get old. It's what we're used to for so long.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: A bunch of nobody's turning the underlying boldprint team into
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: a highlight. I root for the Mountaineers winning and losing.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I think they'll still still have a lot to be
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: proud of. Texter this there was just the oly gotten on.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: This was the brother and the niece. So a couple
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: of Mountaineer fans went to the Arizona State game. I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: think that's yeah, that's Cactus there, so that'd be the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: w Alema. So there you go sporting a Pat White jersey.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: The rest of these are into the women's basketball team.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I think, good morning, gents, shout out to the women's team,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: the Fab five, Mark Kellogg and staff with more experience
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: than I in this realm. Has this ever happened before?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: That had to be historic, clearly significant. No, that's never
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: happened before, never happened before. Texter a lot of negativity
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: regarding WVU football. As I watched the game, I saw
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a competitive team until the end. Injuries not an excuse. However,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: we're watching QB three, RB four and Heisman candidate Curtis Jones,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: who's a linebacker playing running back. I get it he
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: played running back in high school, but not why he
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: was here. What does this team look like with a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: full complement of players available? Time will tell. This year
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: gives me hope even in a loss. I have hope
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: in something I didn't think I had in the previous
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: six years. Maybe or many things. For what you do
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: and let's go very good.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I think you're actually quarterback four if you go by
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: based on who got starts right. Wilson's was the third
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  Speaker 2: start of this is the fourth Curtis Jones continues the
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  Speaker 2: Heisman campaign, though with another rushing touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, has anyone scored more touchdowns this season per
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  Speaker 1: Carrie than Curtis Jones? I think not. I think not.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of these Curtis Jones. Who had Curtis Jones
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  Speaker 3: on the in preseason? Did we mentioned Curtis Jones in
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  Speaker 3: the preseason discussion?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was on the over under episodes
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  Speaker 1: back in August. I know, I love it though, YEA
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  Speaker 1: happy for him, Texter. These are all on the women's team.
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  Speaker 1: The state of West Virginia may as well as well.
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  Speaker 1: The state of West Virginia might as well proceed with
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  Speaker 1: planning historical marker on the grounds of the Greenbrier that
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  Speaker 1: tells the tale of the Greenbrier five incredible john from
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. The women's win over Duke may be the
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  Speaker 1: biggest in school history. Only the Kentucky ELITEA comes to
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  Speaker 1: mind as close. Do you agree on biggest upset? Well,
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  Speaker 1: because of the way it happened, I think West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: probably would have won the game if they had their
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  Speaker 1: full complement of players in the third and fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: I think they would have wore them down, probably would
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  Speaker 1: have won the game. But for what they did, that
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  Speaker 1: is that's in a category of its own, Like I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't even put it with anything else. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's got his own category, like traditional forty minute basketball
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  Speaker 1: game and a basketball game where you have five players,
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  Speaker 1: it's in its own list.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the five they're doing it in the five is
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  Speaker 2: pretty amazing because if you think about I mean, Westernia
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  Speaker 2: should be ranked, they should have been ranked before this
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  Speaker 2: now put them in the rankings. So in terms of
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  Speaker 2: just pure upset, it was more the conditions in which
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  Speaker 2: the game developed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing that first six and a half
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  Speaker 1: minutes of the second half in the women's game against Duke.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps the best six and a half of WVU basketball
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  Speaker 1: of all time, men or women. Absolutely incredible what those
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  Speaker 1: kids did with five players. Thanks for coming to West Virginia, Duke. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a really good point because if you weren't
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  Speaker 1: following it really closely, when you start the third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: so everyone's still kind of in shock that you just
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  Speaker 1: lost all of those players, and they had about two
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  Speaker 1: minutes to say, okay, it's U five, let's go, and
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  Speaker 1: they came out and it did not take them time
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  Speaker 1: to get a feel of how we're going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: They attacked and so to the Texter's point, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: they exploded and that even made it more astounding, and
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  Speaker 1: then held on for the win. After watching the game Friday,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't stop thinking about how strange and probable and
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  Speaker 1: incredible that game truly was. Since that will be part
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  Speaker 1: of West Virginia lore moving forward, I think those young
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  Speaker 1: women deserve a catchy nickname, Whitesaw for five or something
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  Speaker 1: appropriate that will forever remind West Virginia fans of a
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  Speaker 1: remarkable moment with these young women Sidney Woodley, Sydney Shaw, Riley, Mclesky,
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  Speaker 1: Logan Johnson, and C. C. Revere. Yeah, it's just incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I think at the very least, you got to have
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  Speaker 3: a historic marker in the ballroom, right at the very least.
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  Speaker 1: What could they do? I know, in all seriousness, in seriousness,
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  Speaker 1: I think they do need take me with them. I
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  Speaker 1: think they need to have something that they put into
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Traditions back here in one of the cases,
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  Speaker 1: just something that marks it. On this day, West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: with five players beat fifteenth Duke and ye, I think
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  Speaker 1: something needs to be done. There doesn't need to be
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  Speaker 1: a statue, but it just needs to be a marker
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  Speaker 1: place to show because why because it defines everything that
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  Speaker 1: WVU Athletics says that it is tough, resourceful, gritty, never quit,
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  Speaker 1: hard edged, ability to persevere, ability to like. It's the
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  Speaker 1: embodiment of every characteristic that you say you are, so
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  Speaker 1: like I would do that. I'd have something in.
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  Speaker 3: The Mark Kellogg in the movie. That's my questions.
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  Speaker 1: You watch more movies than I'd like. Who would be hoppy?
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  Speaker 2: Is a movie guy?
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  Speaker 1: Who would you think happy?
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, let me think about that a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Is Tom Cruise available?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't, No, I would do Cruise.
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  Speaker 2: It would be nice to put a nice little medallion there,
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  Speaker 2: some on the wall or on the ballroom floor, somewhere
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  Speaker 2: that I think you take a significant I.
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  Speaker 1: Think you get the locker room picture that's been distributed
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  Speaker 1: when they're all in the locker room and they're squeezing.
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  Speaker 1: You take that pick sure, and then you take a
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  Speaker 1: picture of the five players, and you take the box
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  Speaker 1: score and you make a note that says, on this day,
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia with five player. I think you do something
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  Speaker 1: like that. Just a guess. Kellogg? Pretty cool? Huh, Kellog?
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  Speaker 1: Pretty cool?
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  Speaker 3: Tom Hanks? How about Tom Hanks? He too old?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Now Hanks? And call logg? I mean, what about what's
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know these actors? What's this guy? What's that?
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  Speaker 1: Is that Ryan Gosling available? Is that his name?
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Gosling? Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Chris Hemsworth.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't we're working on we're looking. We'll
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  Speaker 1: look into that. So let's have an open meeting. When
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  Speaker 1: are we doing the next show?
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  Speaker 2: Wrap it up here, we'll we'll have it offline.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're gonna be You're gonna be in studio so
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  Speaker 1: we can show all the pictures from your trip. I
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  Speaker 1: will be this is something, this is this is this
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  Speaker 1: is really something.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, we've done you'd already showed them.
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  Speaker 1: No, we didn't show. I want you to be there
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  Speaker 1: to give us the explanation. We'll be back Tuesday or
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday to preview West Virginia against Clemson. Obviously the football
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: team in a bye week. We've got other stuff going on, right.
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  Speaker 1: The soccers are doing well. Congratulations to Nicky Izzo Brown
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  Speaker 1: and her group for their opening round NCAA tournament victory.
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer men's team also going to get its walking papers
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  Speaker 1: this week. As to what's going to happen for them,
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