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Some students and teachers see benefits from cell phone ban · Austin Signal

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Teachers and students in the Round
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Rock School District say they're
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seeing benefits from a statewide ban
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on cell phones in public school
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classrooms.
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That ban went into effect at the
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beginning of this school year and
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some students say they feel more
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engaged inside the classroom and
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outside of it too.
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We'll have more from Williamson
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County.
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In Texas, prisons without air
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conditioning routinely reach 90
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degrees in the summer heat with some
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even topping the triple digit
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mark. Such temperatures would
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routinely violate state standards
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for other types of lockups like
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county jails.
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We've got more data and more about
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that story on today's
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show.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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Plus, this week in Texas Music
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Signal.
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Howdy, and thank you for
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tuning in today.
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This is Austin Signal.
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It's Thursday, February 5th.
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I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
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Thank you for making us part
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of your day. We've got a lot to get
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into today, so let's jump on
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in.
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This past legislative session, Texas
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banned cell phone use in public
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schools. And since the beginning of
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this school year, district and
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teachers have worked out how to take
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the law into account and over the
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past several months have started
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seeing some results.
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At Round Rock ISD, students and
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teachers say they have benefited
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from it mostly.
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For more, we are talking with Kailey
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Hunt. She is KUT's Williamson
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County reporter and she's joining us
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live right now on Austin Signal.
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Kailey, thanks for coming in today.
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Thanks, Jerry.
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So let's first off, before we talk
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about the results, let's talk
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about how we got there.
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Remind us about this law and
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how have educators at Round Rock ISD
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been implementing it?
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Yeah. So this law is commonly
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referred to as the cell phone
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ban.
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It's name is House Bill 1481,
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and it went into effect in
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September.
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And basically what it does is
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requires school districts to
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prohibit students from using cell
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phones or other personal
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wireless communication devices.
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Play any kind of iPads, things like
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that, I'm guessing, okay.
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And so in Round Rock ISD,
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what that means is that, you know,
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phones or any of these other
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electronic devices must be
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stored out of sight during school
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hours.
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Okay, that seems pretty basic.
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So students have sort of been
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working hand-in-hand, I guess, maybe
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with some school leaders to discuss
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how things are going so far.
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How are these relationships,
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how are they playing out?
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Yeah. So, you know, one of the
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first things I did when I was
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reporting this story is, you know, I
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wanted to see how
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the students were actually feeling
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and the teachers and the folks in
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the classroom.
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And it turned out that Round Rock
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was actually holding a meeting
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itself where students would get on
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a Zoom.
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And this happened in December.
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Students got on a zoom and they met
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with district leaders and basically
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got a chance to tell them how they
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were feeling about this cell phone
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ban and
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Yeah, like you said in the intro,
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you know students maybe
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Right over the moon, right?
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They're not jumping right a bit to
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do this
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But they overall acknowledged
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that they felt more
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socially engaged, both inside
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and outside the classroom.
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Okay, well that certainly sounds
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like a positive. What about the
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teachers? How are they feeling?
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Yeah, I'm just gonna quote here
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a Spanish teacher that I talked to
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from Round Rock High School.
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She says it's been, quote, a delight
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from a teacher perspective,
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which I'm sure.
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And, you know, what I thought was
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interesting with this teacher,
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Jerry, is, you know she's been at
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the school for 11 years, a long-time
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teacher.
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And she told me that over
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the years, you know, she had
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been kind of flip-flopping on her
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cell phone policy in the classroom,
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figuring out the best way.
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To manage it as more and more
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students brought them to school,
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and no matter what,
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she said she always just had a fight
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with those cell phones, couldn't
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capture students' attention.
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And she said with this ban in place,
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being able to say, hey, this is a
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state law, it's actually became
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pretty easy for her to
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enforce it.
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Yeah, kind of like a tool in her bag
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right now she could actually use
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that and it's really
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hard It's understandable right that
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frustration with cell phones or
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all these personal devices are a
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huge part of all of our lives now
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So what else did you hear from some
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of the students or the teachers or
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anybody else who was working
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themselves through this process?
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Yeah, you know, well, and
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I want to acknowledge, you know,
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that the students did bring up some
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concerns.
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Um, most of those concerns were, uh,
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revolved around like school safety,
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right? Um, especially students
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who were in portables.
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They noted that they wanted to have
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the ability to communicate with
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their parents or loved ones, uh in
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the event that there'd be a serious
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emergency situation.
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Um, but yeah, overall,
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they- The students said that they
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were interacting more.
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They were making friends with
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people. They said that, they
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wouldn't normally be friends
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with, you know, playing cards
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at lunch. They're not staring
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at their phones as they're eating
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their lunch.
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Okay. Yeah.
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All right. Well, that sounds pretty
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good. I might have to take some of
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these things into account on my own
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life. Maybe I'll have to start
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talking to my coworkers in the
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kitchens, and normally I'm just
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looking straight at my phone.
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This has been enlightening at the
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least, and hopefully they'll
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continue to figure out this process
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up in Round Rock and everywhere else
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across Texas.
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For the Round Rock angle, we have
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been speaking with Kailey Hunt.
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She is KUT's Williamson County
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reporter, and we're going to have a
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link to her supporting in the
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podcast show notes and at kut.org
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slash signal.
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Kailey, thank you very much.
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Thanks, Sheri.
5:59
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critics say the program isn't
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working as intended.
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I'm Bernice Garcia in McAllen.
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Most Texas prisons do not
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have air conditioning, and the
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temperatures inside these prisons on
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a scorching hot day can get
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dangerously high.
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Investigative reporter Lauren
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McGaughy, who's been covering this
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for years, teamed up with Media
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Innovation Group fellows at UT
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Austin to look at new temperature
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data from these prisons.
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That group of fellows is headed by
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Christian McDonald, an associate
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professor of journalism.
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McGahey and McDonald spoke with
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Texas Standard's David Brown about
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their work together.
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Christian, what about data and
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prison temperatures?
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What sort of data is out there,
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and how did your team go about
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analyzing it?
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There are a couple of different.
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Things that we looked at, but this
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first one, this main one, was a
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listing of those indoor temperatures
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that are taken in each un-air
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conditioned prison.
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They're taken at 3 p.m.
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And they're taken during the
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summertime from April 1st to
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the end of September.
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And so they provided
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those to us in a
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big, like a PDF of a spreadsheet and
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we had to suck the numbers out
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of the spreadsheet and
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in a way that we could count them.
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So that we could see how many
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days were at different temperatures
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in different prisons.
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And what did you find?
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There were a lot of days with a lot
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of hot days within that time
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period.
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We looked at how many times it
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was above 85 degrees inside a
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prison, and at some
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point over that four-year period,
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almost every prison got over 85 at
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least once.
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That doesn't seem very hot, but as
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you mentioned, it's that
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standard for local lockups.
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And so we wanted to look at
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that first, but we also looked at
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how many times it was over 90
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degrees and how many time it was 100
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degrees.
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And that was consistent.
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We, you know, there were, it was
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consistently that hot across
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these on air conditioned prisons.
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And just as a reminder, you know, if
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you sit in your car on a summer
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day with the windows up, try,
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try to withstand 90 degrees
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inside of hot car for five minutes,
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you know, uh, people living in these
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conditions being incarcerated in
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these conditions, they don't have
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the free ability to just walk
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outside and get a breath of fresh
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air. You know, they're in a dorm,
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they are in a cell.
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They don't have ready access to
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water all the time or showers all
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the times.
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And so we really wanted to gage how
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many days in a row that they
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were sitting in cells or dorms
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in those temperatures.
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Lauren, I know that you and I have
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talked about this in the past since
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you have, as you were saying
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earlier, done a lot of reporting on
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this subject.
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But for the benefit of many
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of our listeners who may not
9:52
understand this, why is it that
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in a state that gets as hot as Texas
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does, there are prisons without
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air conditioning?
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Yeah, you know, this is actually a
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national problem.
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So Texas isn't an outlier.
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Most prison systems across the
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country also do not have full
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air conditioning across all of their
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prisons. The difference, as you
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said, is here in Texas
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and also in the Southwest
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and in the South, it gets much
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hotter than it gets in other places.
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The reason why they don't have AC
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is that we've chosen not to
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install them with ACs.
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Some of these prisons are very old.
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The oldest prison in Texas dates to
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before the Civil War.
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But the prisons that we built in
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the 90s when we built dozens of
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prisons, they chose to build
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them without air conditioning.
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There were actual legislative
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discussions and hearings over that.
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And the decision was, well, let's
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save some cash.
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This isn't something we're gonna
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prioritize.
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The voters haven't asked us to do
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it, and so we're not gonna do it.
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And now the state is being sued over
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whether those conditions are
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actually violating the
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constitutional rights of
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incarcerated people because the
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allegation is that it's cruel and
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unusual punishment to live in
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that heat.
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I want to loop back to that a
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little bit further, but Christian,
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can you tell us about a couple of
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prison facilities where the data
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shows that excessive heat has been
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a demonstrable problem?
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There are several.
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Garza West is one of those units
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that had a lot of
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days that got really, really hot,
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especially during the summer of
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2023, where
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we had a heat wave
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throughout.
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And in that case,
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there were only 11 days where it did
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not reach 85 degrees
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during the summer of
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2025. So that's just last year.
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In 2023, it
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reached 95 degrees or above
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108 times.
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So that's nearly 60%
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of the days that we recorded
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during April to September.
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And it reached 100 degrees
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indoor 46 times
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in 2023.
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Lauren, in your story,
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you compare the heat in some of
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these state prisons
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with standards that
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are set for county jails,
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even animal shelters.
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Right.
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Okay. So what are those standards
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and why do, if I
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understand this correctly, no
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standards exist in
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prisons?
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Right. So county jails, many
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of those facilities are newer and
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there have been standards existing
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on the state administrative law
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books that say they have to keep the
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indoor temperatures between 65 and
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85 degrees.
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You know, county lockups, you
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know, just for people who may not be
12:37
familiar with the criminal justice
12:38
system.
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County jails often where you go, you
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know pre-trial before you're
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convicted of something, right?
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You get thrown in a drunk tank,
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you get pulled over for a DUI,
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you're sitting waiting for trial.
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That's county lockup.
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Prison is post-conviction.
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You've been convicted of a crime.
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So there's no direct one-to-one
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that they wanted the conditions to
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be poorer in state
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prisons, but there are better
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conditions in terms of temperature
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rules just on that face of it in
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county lockups where people still
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have that presumption of innocence,
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right? Many people have that
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presumptions of innocence.
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And then for animal shelters,
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there's also temperature rules.
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They're not as strict.
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They keep that 85 degree
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ceiling as well as best practices
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as it should not get above 85
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for dogs and cats and the like,
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but if it does, then they have to
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trigger all of these special
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fans and extra water
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and all that kind of thing.
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Interestingly enough, those same
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conditions, standards,
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exist internally for prisons.
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If it gets too hot, people
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incarcerated inside these Texas
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prisons should get extra water,
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access to fans, but what we hear
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from the people on the inside as
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that. The staffing problems are
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so bad that they don't have enough
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staff to actually provide those heat
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mitigation steps.
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And so that's all part of this
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lawsuit that I mentioned where
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incarcerated people and advocacy
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groups are litigating saying,
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we have lived too long with
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these disparate standards between
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lockups.
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The state needs to actually put
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into state law right into
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our laws that there
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needs to be a 65 to 85
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degree.
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Standard and we need to invest
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the money for this air-conditioning
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the prison system admits that it's
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hot They say of course we know it
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gets hot inside but they say
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we need time and cash from
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the state legislature to actually
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make this happen and The
14:30
advocates believe that without a
14:31
court order to do that that they
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can't get it done
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Is there any political pushback
14:37
against, like say for
14:38
instance, setting a state
14:40
prison standard the way that
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these standards are set for jails
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and even animal shelters?
14:46
I mean, if you can require
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county jails to do this,
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require animal shelters to meet
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those standards, what is the
14:53
rationale for not having one for
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prison?
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You know, I haven't seen a lot of
14:57
people saying, let them live
14:59
that way, but
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the pushback is usually that
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the cost is going to be very high.
15:06
That these are old buildings,
15:08
the state runs more than a hundred
15:10
prison units and
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60 plus percent of
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them don't have full AC.
15:15
So this is a massive, massive
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project that we would have
15:19
to invest a lot of taxpayer money
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into to actually fix.
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So, a lot of the pushback is on
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the complexity.
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And the cost rather than
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the issue itself.
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Has the State Department of
15:31
Criminal Justice responded to
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your findings at all or no?
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They didn't weigh in on the
15:37
data analysis itself.
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They have said that they believe
15:41
that the heat mitigation protocols
15:42
that they have in place, which
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like I said include the extra water,
15:46
fans, et cetera, are enough
15:48
to keep people safe during
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these heat waves.
15:51
And they disagree that the
15:54
conditions inside amount to
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cruel and unusual punishment.
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That's the argument.
15:59
That's a decision that is now before
16:01
a federal judge and he will
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ultimately.
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Make that decision when we go back
16:06
to court next month.
16:08
Christian, what did you want to-
16:08
get involved in this?
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A lot of it is a learning
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opportunity for my students who
16:14
can use these data journalism skills
16:16
to find and tell stories,
16:19
and the kind of
16:21
problems that Lauren brought to us
16:23
to be able to tell a story that we
16:25
wouldn't otherwise be able tell.
16:27
It's one thing to go, oh, look at
16:29
one prison and figure out what it
16:30
was across a particular
16:32
day, but to look across all
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of them against all these
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months and all years.
16:38
It takes a little bit more
16:39
effort and a little different style
16:42
of looking at it, and it gives my
16:44
students an opportunity to go
16:45
through this work.
16:47
That was investigative reporter
16:49
Lauren McGahey and Christian
16:50
McDonald, associate professor of
16:52
journalism at UT Austin,
16:54
talking with Texas Standard's David
16:56
Brown.
16:57
Austin Signal will be back after a
16:58
break.
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along with guests Doug Somm, Waylon
18:13
Jennings, and Jesse Coulter,
18:14
traveled to New York City to record
18:15
not one, but two Nelson albums
18:17
in quick succession, Shotgun Willie
18:19
and The Troublemaker.
18:26
The first album recorded was The
18:28
Troublemaker, a gospel compilation
18:29
recorded in honky-tonk style over
18:31
the span of just two days.
18:33
Nelson used his band, alongside Doug
18:35
Psalms, to add breadth to the
18:36
album's sound.
18:38
Unfortunately, Atlantic chose not to
18:40
release it. The label wanted
18:41
mischievous, counter-cultural
18:42
country, but maybe not in the form
18:44
of gospel that framed Jesus as the
18:45
original outlaw.
18:46
It only came out in 1976 after
18:48
a redheaded stranger had launched
18:50
Willie into superstardom.
18:52
I'm loud today
18:58
Whiskey river, take my
19:00
money
19:00
Bye!
19:04
Don't let her memory
19:06
torture me
19:07
They recorded Shotgun Willie later
19:09
that same week.
19:10
A combination of originals and
19:11
covers, including Willie's
19:13
definitive version of Johnny Bush's
19:14
Whiskey River, the album was a
19:16
statement of Willie's new image.
19:18
The raucous rebel and good timing
19:19
Buddha, poignant song smith and
19:21
reluctant leader, a breakthrough
19:22
album in every sense of the word.
19:25
I am drowning in
19:27
a whiskey river
19:29
You can hear music from the Lone
19:30
Star State 24-7 on the
19:32
Texas Music Experience at tmx.fm.
19:37
I'm Jason Mellard from the Center
19:38
for Texas Music History at Texas
19:40
State University.
19:41
A number of currents flowing
19:43
from my mind
19:47
And leaving the
19:49
heart you left so cold
19:53
Super Bowl Sunday is drawing near
19:55
and for the first time in
19:57
a while, at least what I can recall,
19:59
the anticipation for the halftime
20:00
show is much higher than the actual
20:03
game itself.
20:04
Here to tell us more is Maile
20:06
Carballo from our sister station
20:07
KUTX.
20:08
Howdy Maile, how are you?
20:09
Well, hey, Jerry, I'm doing great.
20:10
I'm excited for the show.
20:12
I'm excited for the game, for
20:13
the food, and particularly for the
20:15
show.
20:16
Who's gonna be performing on Sunday?
20:18
Yeah, there's a star studded
20:20
lineup. You know, normally at KU-TX,
20:22
we're an alternative music station,
20:24
but we still love our pop artists.
20:26
And for one, I'm really excited
20:28
for them.
20:29
Green Day will be opening the
20:31
ceremony.
20:32
Okay, opening before the game even
20:34
gets started, right?
20:35
Yes, sir.
20:35
Yes sir, yes sir.
20:36
Charlie Puth will be singing the
20:38
national anthem.
20:39
Mr. Perfect Pitch, as people
20:41
call him.
20:42
Brandi Carlile, Coco Jones,
20:44
they'll be performing as well.
20:46
And of course, Mr. Bad Bunny,
20:48
who is in the hot seat of pop
20:50
culture right now, will be
20:52
performing at the halftime show.
20:53
For sure, definitely in
20:55
the zeitgeist right now is Bad
20:57
Bunny, because he has had
20:59
kind of a crazy week and it's gonna
21:00
culminate obviously on Sunday with
21:02
the Super Bowl halftime performance,
21:04
but how did it start?
21:05
Absolutely.
21:06
Yeah. So last week was the Grammys.
21:08
He won three Grammies,
21:10
including having the first Spanish
21:12
language album ever to
21:14
win album of the year.
21:15
That's kind of like the coveted
21:17
award at the Grammies.
21:18
And now he's making history as
21:20
the first ever solo Latin headliner
21:22
at the Super Bowl, super exciting!
21:24
And I know that that
21:26
album has gotten a lot of play and
21:28
lots of cars and lots of headphones
21:30
and things like that.
21:31
What did you enjoy about that album?
21:34
It's just a great blend of
21:36
so many different historical
21:38
pieces and media and
21:40
culture.
21:41
Like there's a lot of layered in,
21:43
you know, kind of quotes and
21:45
different things in that album.
21:46
And you just, you can't deny a
21:49
beat like Bad Bunny brings too.
21:51
It's true, yeah.
21:52
Even if you've never heard the song
21:53
that you're about to hear, it's
21:55
going to be hard to ignore
21:56
the rhythm and the
21:58
groove that's hitting your body.
22:00
I think a lot of times these
22:02
Super Bowl performances are,
22:04
or can be, career spanning.
22:07
Last year with Kendrick Lamar, we
22:09
saw that it was maybe a little bit
22:10
more focused on his album that had
22:12
just been released.
22:13
What do you think Bad Bunny's going
22:14
to do? Do you think he's going focus
22:15
on these newer songs from his latest
22:17
album, or maybe try to do Sort of
22:19
a career retrospective, even though
22:20
he's still early in his career.
22:22
Yeah, I think he's gonna do
22:24
a full spread, honestly.
22:26
You know, his newer songs are really
22:28
great and are super hot right
22:30
now, but he's kind of at a point in
22:31
his career where he's trying to take
22:33
a stance too with all of his fame.
22:36
You know at the Grammys he used his
22:38
acceptance speech to kind of address
22:39
the recent concerns with ICE
22:41
and I surely believe
22:43
that he is going to address more
22:45
at the Super Bowl and really,
22:47
really make a moment in history.
22:49
Okay, Maile, so last question,
22:51
do you think, you know, the game is
22:53
between the Seahawks and the
22:55
Patriots? Do you think that
22:56
ultimately Monday morning Bad Bunny
22:58
is going to be the big winner?
22:59
Oh, yeah.
23:00
Oh, yeah. This is going to be the
23:01
most talked about 13 minutes for
23:03
the year so far.
23:05
And probably for a long time to
23:06
come. I'm excited.
23:07
We will see what Bad
23:10
Bunny brings to the field on
23:12
Sunday. And we have been speaking
23:13
with Maile Carballo.
23:14
She is from our sister station KUTX.
23:17
Maile, always great to talk with you
23:19
on Austin Signal.
23:20
Thank you, Jerry.
23:22
And that is it for today's
23:23
episode of the show.
23:25
Thank you for tuning in.
23:26
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23:28
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23:30
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23:31
And we're going to have a link to
23:32
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23:33
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23:35
And you can find more from us at
23:37
KUT.org slash Signal.
23:40
Thank you to Kailey Hunt, Bernice
23:42
Garcia, Lauren McGaughy,
23:43
Christian McDonald, the Media
23:45
Innovation Group fellows, Jason
23:47
Mellard and Maile Carballo for
23:48
their help today.
23:49
Thank you always to Kristen Cabrera
23:52
and Rayna Sevilla.
23:53
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
23:55
Austin Signal will be back with you
23:57
tomorrow. Have a great day.