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3 Sex Abuse Cases in 2 Countries: Influencer Andrew Tate Still Walking Free · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It's not over yet for
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Speaker 1: the allegedly.
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Speaker 2: Horrific and misogynist Tate brothers. As of tonight, a former
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Speaker 2: alt right influencer named Lauren Southern is accusing Andrew Tate
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Speaker 2: of sex assault. I wish you'll luck. I wish you luck,
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Speaker 2: Lauren Southern, because you're not the first to allege it.
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Speaker 2: Yet somehow, miraculously they're still walking free. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: A former YouTuber Lauren Southern accused the quote Manisphere influencer
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Speaker 2: and alleged rapist Andrew Tate of sex assault. She's written
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Speaker 2: a memoir called This Is Not and in it, she
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Speaker 2: says Tate assaulted her after they met when she was
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Speaker 2: just twenty two years old. Now she's released several chapters
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Speaker 2: of her book and it's on substack, and she says
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Speaker 2: she released them because they quote were not written with
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Speaker 2: the intention of profiting off the incident. Now, in the
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Speaker 2: excerpts from her memoir, she describes traveling to Romania with
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Speaker 2: the British white supremacist oh Tommy Robinson to pitch Tate
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Speaker 2: and his hinch person brother Tristan to invest in their
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Speaker 2: right wing media startup. Now, at first, she says, she
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Speaker 2: and Andrew Tate went out to dinner and he was
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Speaker 2: flirtatious and charming her words, not mine, because he looks
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Speaker 2: like the devil to me. I don't know how anybody
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Speaker 2: could think he was flirtatious and charming. But that said,
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Speaker 2: that's just me. Then she says things started to sing
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Speaker 2: quote off. Now, listen, I've written it in books. I've
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Speaker 2: had experts tell you a million times when something seems off,
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Speaker 2: get the h E, double l out leave. She said,
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Speaker 2: things seemed off. Now, these are allegations made in a memoir.
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Speaker 2: These have not been proven in a court of law.
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Speaker 2: So Tate again is innocent until proven guilty. I don't
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Speaker 2: know why they let them back in the country. That's
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Speaker 2: what I don't know. That said on with Southern, she says.
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Speaker 2: The Tates, that's both of them, invited her back to
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Speaker 2: their compound.
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Speaker 1: Red Flag, Red Flag.
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Speaker 2: Don't go in a compound, okay, don't. It's bad enough
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Speaker 2: to go to the guy's apartment, which last I compound
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Speaker 2: with fences and locks, no, to discuss the possible investment.
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Speaker 2: But instead they go to a nightclub, where after one
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Speaker 2: cocktail and a shot, she threw up ding ding ding.
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Speaker 2: You've had something slipped in your drink. But of course,
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Speaker 2: how should she know that, she says, and dreue Te
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Speaker 2: then picked her up, as in physically picked her up,
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Speaker 2: put her in a car, and took her back to
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Speaker 2: her own hotel room, where he kissed her and she
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Speaker 2: told him she wanted to go to sleep. She writes,
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Speaker 2: I was extraordinarily tired. He wanted to go further. I
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Speaker 2: guess that means sexually. I said no multiple times and
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Speaker 2: tried to pull his hands off me.
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Speaker 1: She says.
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Speaker 2: She attempted to fight back, he put his arm around
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Speaker 2: her neck and strangled her unconscious. She got enough consciousness
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Speaker 2: back to pull out his arms. He strangled her again.
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Speaker 2: She then says, quote, I prefer not to share the rest.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious. What more do we know about the
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Speaker 2: infamous Tate brothers and when, if ever, will they be stopped?
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Speaker 2: The online influencer Andrew Tate, with literally millions of followers
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Speaker 2: Go Figure, was detained and handed an arrest warrant issued
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Speaker 2: by the British government. Tate thirty seven and creepy brother
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Speaker 2: Tristan Tate detained. They were detained on claims of sex aggression,
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Speaker 2: that's what they call it in the UK, in a
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Speaker 2: case dating all the way back to two thousand and fifteen.
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Speaker 2: Now a Romanian court where the two were hiding out
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Speaker 2: has to make a quote pivotal decision whether they're going
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Speaker 2: to execute the warrants issued by the UK Westminster Magistrates Court.
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Speaker 2: They darn well better if they want to keep relations
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Speaker 2: up with the UK. Four women reported Tate. Four women,
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Speaker 2: not one, not two, not three, but four report Tate
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Speaker 2: to authorities for sex violence and physical abuse. For some reason,
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Speaker 2: the crown decided not to prosecute him. These victims had
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Speaker 2: to turned to crowd funding to cover their legal costs.
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Speaker 2: The four female victims handed over their evidence about the
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Speaker 2: horrific acts of violence they say they endured and just waited,
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Speaker 2: But time passes and they were told the UK authorities
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Speaker 2: would not prosecute them. Now, don't forget Tit is charged
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Speaker 2: in a separate case with rape, human trafficking and forming
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Speaker 2: a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. Why does this
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Speaker 2: guy have millions of men followers?
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Speaker 1: Freaks? How did the whole thing begin?
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Speaker 2: Possibly the most misogynistic person I have ever encountered discussing
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Speaker 2: tactics on how to lure sex trafficking victims. These texts, messages,
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Speaker 2: and more have now been leaked, and it's all spewing
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Speaker 2: from the empire built by Andrew Tate, a sex trafficker
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Speaker 2: according to ELI law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Most people know Andrew Tate for his online content, which
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Speaker 3: has been called misogynistic, but what most people don't know
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Speaker 3: is that he also runs this secret of all male society,
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Speaker 3: the Warm, which he says is a kind of self
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Speaker 3: help society that helps you become better man. It costs
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Speaker 3: six pounds a year to join. What we uncovered is
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Speaker 3: that actually within the Warum, they're actually teaching men methods
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Speaker 3: for grooming women into online sex work. And we've identified
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Speaker 3: from the leaked mesas as you referred to, at least
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Speaker 3: forty five potential victims of this crewing method.
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Speaker 4: Breaking news, disgraced influencer Andrew Tait has been indicted and
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Speaker 4: will face charges of rape, human trafficking, and forming a
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Speaker 4: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. According to officials, three
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Speaker 4: others will also be charged in connection to human trafficking,
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Speaker 4: including Andrew's brother Tristan, A spokesperson for the Tate brothers,
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Speaker 4: confirm their indictment to NBC News. Both brothers deny all allegations.
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Speaker 1: The two were.
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Speaker 4: Amanded into custody back in December, before being released under
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Speaker 4: house arrest in March.
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Speaker 2: I can't stop someone from being misogynistic, that's within them.
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Speaker 1: But I tell you this much, we can stop six trafficking.
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Speaker 2: Now. What's so amazing is he's not trafficking women in secret.
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Speaker 2: They're not in the back of massage parlors and nail
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Speaker 2: salons with their papers stolen from them unless they have
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Speaker 2: sex with strays and then they're making the money.
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Speaker 1: This is not some thirteen or fourteen year old girl.
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Speaker 2: That has been stolen and she's being hidden in some
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Speaker 2: secret apartment somewhere in La far far away from home,
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Speaker 2: being beaten in drug This is right in our face.
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Speaker 2: This is happening right online. I really don't even know
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Speaker 2: where to start taking a star friends.
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Speaker 5: At BBC Prosecutors have filed formal charges against the controversial
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Speaker 5: influencer Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan, and two associates. The
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Speaker 5: charges include rape, human trafficking and forming an organized crime group,
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Speaker 5: as well as illegally accessing a computer system and violence
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Speaker 5: against one of the alleged victims. The indictment taught says
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Speaker 5: that at the beginning of twenty twenty one, the four
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Speaker 5: defendants formed an organized criminal group to commit human trafficking
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Speaker 5: in the United States and Britain.
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Speaker 6: We know there are seven alleged victims who are apparently
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Speaker 6: allegedly recruited by false promises of love and marriage by
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Speaker 6: the two Tape brothers.
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Speaker 2: Love and marriage, my rear end, that is not what
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Speaker 2: this is.
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Speaker 1: This is not about love and marriage.
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Speaker 2: You were hearing from our friends at BBC as well
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Speaker 2: as NBC.
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Speaker 1: This is not about love and marriage at all. Guys.
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Speaker 2: Before I go to senior investigative reporter for dailymail dot Com,
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Speaker 2: Caitlin Becker joining us, I will you to hear our
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Speaker 2: cut fifteen from The Dangerous Rise of Andrew t BBC.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 7: In the leaked messages that we got access to, were
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Speaker 7: able to see that up to forty five women were
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Speaker 7: recruited into working on webcam, potentially groomed using this method
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Speaker 7: without their knowledge. We saw specific examples of men grooming
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Speaker 7: specific women and in the documentary we spoke to two
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Speaker 7: of those women, one in Buenos Ayre's Argentina and one
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Speaker 7: on the west coast of the US, who both alleged
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Speaker 7: that they personally were groomed by senior members of Andrew
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Speaker 7: Tate's warreom.
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Speaker 1: That's not all.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen, how are cut tin, Lucy Williamson BBC.
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Speaker 6: The prosecution also says that women were forced by the
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Speaker 6: defendants to make pornographic content online, and alleges that some
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Speaker 6: women did not control the money they made and were
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Speaker 6: fined for crying on camera or for not working hard enough.
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Speaker 6: As spokeswomen for the Tate brothers said that they vehemently
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Speaker 6: denied the serious allegations against them.
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Speaker 2: Joining me in ostar panel to make sense of what
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Speaker 2: we know right now. Straight out to senior investigative reporter
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Speaker 2: for the Dailymail dot Com, Caitlin Becker. Caitlin, thank you
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Speaker 2: for being with us. Forty five known alleged victims. There
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Speaker 2: are actually victims in multiple countries. That's not unusual. Do
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Speaker 2: you remember the initial search for Natalie Holloway.
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Speaker 1: We were USD.
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Speaker 2: Not only AUS, but many other journalists and law enforcement
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Speaker 2: were looking at the islands nearest to Aruba, including the
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Speaker 2: Netherland Antilles, thinking she had been remo moved from the
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Speaker 2: island for sex trafficking. That is a part of sex trafficking.
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Speaker 2: You remove the victim from their home, from their money,
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Speaker 2: from their cell phone, from their driver's license, their ID,
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Speaker 2: and they're stuck with you and nowhere to go, and
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Speaker 2: they're being beaten and drugged and they're taken away.
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Speaker 1: From their home.
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Speaker 2: The fact that this conspiracy to sex traffic is in
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Speaker 2: many countries, it's hard for some people to believe, but
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Speaker 2: this is the way sex trafficking works.
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Speaker 1: Who is Andrew Tate, Caitlin Well, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: It's the way sex trafficking work. But it's also the
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Speaker 8: way the Internet works. And Andrew Tate's claim to fame
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Speaker 8: is on the Internet. I mean he had a short
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Speaker 8: lived stint on British Big Brother, but really he became
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Speaker 8: known in online circles for being kind of a king
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Speaker 8: of misogyny and teaching men how to be men, which
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Speaker 8: involved subjugating and harassing women. He had very popular online courses.
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Speaker 8: He had one that called something Hustlers, and that was
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Speaker 8: more of his public one, and then this war room
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Speaker 8: that you've been hearing about was his private one. But
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Speaker 8: he also had very popular social media account where he
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Speaker 8: propagated this type of bullying and misogyny and as you heard,
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Speaker 8: essentially allegedly grooming, and he garnered thousands and thousands and
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Speaker 8: thousands of followers. And for war Room particularly, you had
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Speaker 8: to pay the equivalent of what is about eight thousand
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Speaker 8: dollars to join, So he's then profiting off of this
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Speaker 8: and frowing like minded men to listen to the types
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Speaker 8: of sort of vile information that he's viewing. So the
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Speaker 8: conspiracy goes far and wide. Do not only have Andrew
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Speaker 8: and Tristan Kate, the brothers who were at ahead of this,
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Speaker 8: that's sort of ahead of the stink, but you also
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Speaker 8: have all of those war Room members. You can imagine
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Speaker 8: how far this can go. I mean, we have alleged victims.
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Speaker 8: There are seven in the indictment, and they are from
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Speaker 8: all over the world, several in Europe, at least one
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Speaker 8: in the United States. All of their identities are being protected.
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Speaker 8: We are also hearing potentially forty five others from these
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Speaker 8: leaked telegram messages that the BBC obtained. But Nancy, those
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Speaker 8: messages are only for one year, so you have to
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Speaker 8: imagine in one year, If there's forty five potential victims,
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Speaker 8: I can't even fathom how many that could be.
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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, now another woman, and the
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Speaker 2: long one of women climbing that Andrew Tate and or
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Speaker 2: his brother have sex assaulted them. But this happens in Romania.
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Speaker 2: There's not a lot we can do about it here.
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Speaker 2: But what more do we know about the take brothers,
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Speaker 2: and what if anything can be done here in the US.
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Speaker 2: This perv Andrew Tate has nearly nine million followers on
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Speaker 2: the social media platform x also known as Twitter. He
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Speaker 2: repeatedly claims prosecutors have no evidence against him and that
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Speaker 2: there is a conspiracy to quote silence him. Okay, when
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Speaker 2: you start talking about conspiracies, you'll lose me. Remember everybody
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Speaker 2: said the LAPD had a conspiracy against Oj Simptom to
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Speaker 2: frame him for double murder. Bs Like you think one
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Speaker 2: of those cops would take a million dollars for a
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Speaker 2: tell all book about the so called conspiracy to frame
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Speaker 2: OJ Simpson. Yeah, it's my understanding. In my experience, it's
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Speaker 2: too difficult for people to keep the pie hole shut
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Speaker 2: in a conspiracy. Even social media is shunning him. He's
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Speaker 2: been banned from multiple social media platforms for misogynistic woman
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Speaker 2: hating views and hate speech. What more do we know
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Speaker 2: about Andrew Tate and its freaky brother I know this.
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Speaker 1: They're rolling in money.
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Speaker 2: Romanian authorities sees fifteen luxury cars, fourteen designer watches, and
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Speaker 2: cash in several currencies. That's weird, worth around four million dollars.
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Speaker 2: These two women haters and alleged sex traffickers are making
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Speaker 2: a mint online. Look this isn't just a single instance.
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Speaker 2: Over three hundred million dollars US dollars was seized. That
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Speaker 2: is the tip of the iceberg with how many people
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Speaker 2: this guy is controlling and how many women are being
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Speaker 2: subjected to sex trafficking, forced perography, being raped, being beaten.
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Speaker 2: In his chats, screenshots purported messages from the Quote war Room,
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Speaker 2: Tate describes women as quote targets and assets and explains
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Speaker 2: how to isolate and manipulate women. In one message, this
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Speaker 2: woman hater describes how he isolated one woman until she
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Speaker 2: quote lost her support networks at home and he kept
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Speaker 2: her in his compound quote and.
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Speaker 1: This takes tastes like a dirt sandwich to me.
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Speaker 2: The real goal is for her to agree to never
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Speaker 2: go anywhere without me, not even her hometown. I need
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Speaker 2: her working. This is from his screenshots. He appears to
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Speaker 2: seek help from his associates to force one woman to
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Speaker 2: post sexually explicit content on only fans. He tells his
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Speaker 2: fall or he'll be making the play tonight since she
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Speaker 2: moved to his compound. She's been said, but nothing else.
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Speaker 2: These are his words. She's broke, she can't go home,
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Speaker 2: she can't leave the house. Man, I sound almost evil, guys,
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Speaker 2: this is such a huge operation taking Listen at our
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Speaker 2: cut too, Lucy Williamson.
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Speaker 6: The charge of human trafficking is an umbrella charge, and
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Speaker 6: within that there are several counts against each of the
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Speaker 6: four defendants. We're also getting some information from the organized
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Speaker 6: crime unit about the assets that have been seized properties, cars,
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Speaker 6: luxury watches, but also more than three hundred million US
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Speaker 6: dollars in cryptocurrency. And we're told that there are separate
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Speaker 6: charges that are still under investigation that may be the
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Speaker 6: subject of a separate indictment in the future.
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Speaker 1: Think about it.
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Speaker 2: How many times have I told a jury don't turn away.
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Speaker 2: Think about what's happening around you. Think about these facts.
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Speaker 2: Young women being forced into sex rate.
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Speaker 1: Think about it.
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Speaker 2: Do you have a daughter, a mother, a sister, Think
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Speaker 2: about her being forced into sex, isolated from her family
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Speaker 2: to the tin of this guy making at least three
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 9: Nancy Man, I hear someone jumping in. Who is it, Nancy?
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Speaker 9: This is Don Shiller.
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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, this is Don Schiller and joining us, training
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Speaker 2: director for the La County Project with Coalition to Abolish
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Speaker 2: Slavery and Trafficking. She's the best selling author of the
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Speaker 2: Road through Wonderland, Surviving John Holmes.
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Speaker 1: Dawn, please jump.
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Speaker 9: In, go ahead, thank you, thank you. I also call
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Speaker 9: myself a lived experience expert in and that's what we do.
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Speaker 9: We go out and teach and train around human trafficking.
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Speaker 9: So when I hear the word grooming a lot, what
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Speaker 9: it is really applies to is the recruitment. Grooming is
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Speaker 9: recruitment under the umbrella of what is human trafficking. I'm
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Speaker 9: luring somebody in on their vulnerabilities based off of means
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Speaker 9: for love and attention, whatever that is, because they didn't
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Speaker 9: have it at home. It's really a classic form of
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Speaker 9: recruitment into where the victim is then now kept in
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Speaker 9: by force, fraud, and coercion and coersion is all types
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Speaker 9: of things. The fraud is this promise of love that
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Speaker 9: never turns into Love's always like having to force you
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Speaker 9: into doing something.
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Speaker 2: Guys, I'm looking online at Andrew Take's leaked text. Wait
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Speaker 2: a minute, this is about maximum difficulty you experience in
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Speaker 2: the business.
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Speaker 1: If we all.
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Speaker 2: Agree on that, I'll give you a play by play
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Speaker 2: of what I try. I do this for every girl
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Speaker 2: I get to work. If you guys see the value,
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Speaker 2: you guys can use your bottom bit to do whatever
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Speaker 2: g is doing. You are never going back to your hometown,
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Speaker 2: even to visit without me. You understand that is part
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Speaker 2: of his technique. These are his words, not mine.
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Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on. Wonderfitter.
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Speaker 2: It's used of raping one woman twice, using intimidation, constant
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Speaker 2: surveillance and claims. In the Victims of War in Debt
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Speaker 2: take a List at Our Cut eight from BBC.
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Speaker 6: Prosecutors outlined the testimony and the evidence against Andrew Taate.
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Speaker 6: It includes transcriptions of text and audio messages which appear
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Speaker 6: to show how the alleged trafficking operation was managed and
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Speaker 6: the apparent coercion, control and abuse of women by mister
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Speaker 6: Tate and his co defendants. In one transcribed exchange, Andrew
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Speaker 6: Tate appears to coerce an alleged victim into group sex
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Speaker 6: using abusive language. His brother Tristan is also quoted in
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Speaker 6: prosecution transcripts allegedly talking about slaving women for ten to
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Speaker 6: twelve hours a day.
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Speaker 2: Slaving women from ten to twelve hours a day, okay
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Speaker 2: to doctor Joni Johnston, forensic psychologist and private investigator, author
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Speaker 2: of Serial Killers. One hundred and one question true crime
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Speaker 2: fans ask doctor Joni, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Explain what's happening here?
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, I think the scale or the potential
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Speaker 10: scale of what is going on is mind boggling. But
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Speaker 10: the actual techniques that we're hearing about, I mean, how
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Speaker 10: many times do we heard these Nancy, you know, just
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Speaker 10: isolating people from their loved ones, from people they care about,
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Speaker 10: the abuse, the coercion. I mean, it's we've heard this
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Speaker 10: in a million different ways. It's the way to isolate
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Speaker 10: and control your victims, and it's you know, it's something
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Speaker 10: we've heard over and over again.
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Speaker 2: Guys, you think this hasn't happened before, It's happened so
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Speaker 2: many times. Before sex cults, and it's always women and
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Speaker 2: children who are subjugated, who are raped, who are sodomized,
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Speaker 2: who are forced into pimping out for other guys. Take
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Speaker 2: a listen to our cut nineteen. We're talking about Nexium.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 11: Alison Mack is due in court facing sex trafficking charges
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Speaker 11: after being accused of involvement in helping to recruit women
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Speaker 11: as alleged sex slaves for a secret sorority within an
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Speaker 11: organization called Nexium, based out of Albany, New York. Mac
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Speaker 11: gave a testimonial for the group.
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Speaker 1: When I first came, I had on the surface something
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Speaker 1: that seems to be like the perfect life for a
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Speaker 1: pretty good life.
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Speaker 11: Keith Rinieri, the leader of Nexium, is facing charges including
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Speaker 11: sex trafficking and forced labor conspiracy related to that secret sorority.
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Speaker 2: Cheryl McCollum joining me, Founder and director of the Cold
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Speaker 2: Case Research Institute. You can find for at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Nexium is a US
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Speaker 2: based sex cult where people were actually allowed being brand
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Speaker 2: and beaten right here under our nose, including celebrities. The
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Speaker 2: only thing different here with Andrew Tate is he's rubbing
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Speaker 2: our face in it. It's right here on the internet.
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Speaker 2: He's going out to the most expensive restaurant he can
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Speaker 2: and videoing his celebration after getting to walk free on this.
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Speaker 12: Nancy, I think some terminology here is going to be important.
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Speaker 2: Terminology, Lyria end, How is terminology going to put this
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Speaker 2: guy behind bars?
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Speaker 1: Terminology? What does that.
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Speaker 2: Matter to me?
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Speaker 12: Because they need to understand who he is. They keep
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Speaker 12: using words like grene.
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Speaker 9: Who's they today?
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Speaker 12: On the show, people have said grooming That implies over time.
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Speaker 12: Listen to me very carefully. There are three types of pimp.
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Speaker 12: There's the ceo pimp, there's the robeo pimp, and there's
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Speaker 12: the gorilla pimp. The CEO pimp is all about money.
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Speaker 12: He only cares about money. She's an object. He's going
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Speaker 12: to make money. He owns her. Romeo pimp may tell her, hey,
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Speaker 12: you're my wife, you're my woman, put his name on
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Speaker 12: her neck, tattoo her as property, but she believes they're together.
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Speaker 12: Then you've got the gorilla pimp. He's gonna bust you
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Speaker 12: in your face, shoot you up with heroin, and you
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Speaker 12: are a sick slave in fifteen minutes. And here's the thing.
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Speaker 12: The gentleman that is doing all of this. He can
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Speaker 12: go from a Ceo pimp to a gorilla pimp, or
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Speaker 12: a Romeo pimp to a gorilla pimp. And that's what
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Speaker 12: you're seeing here. He promised them love and marriage and
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Speaker 12: the next thing they know, they're beaten, laying on the
24:34
Speaker 12: cement floor, working eight hours a day with no brain.
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Speaker 2: And when you say working eight hours a day, what
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Speaker 2: you mean is enduring rape after rape after rape after
24:47
Speaker 2: rape after rape, and the pimp gets the money.
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Speaker 1: Does the arrest of Andrew Tait and his creepy.
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Speaker 2: Brother spell the end of the so called man o sphere,
25:00
Speaker 2: you know, like hemisphere but mansphere the controversial that's one
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Speaker 2: way to put it. Influencer Andrew Tate reportedly will be
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Speaker 2: extradited to the UK this after a grainy footage from
25:17
Speaker 2: police shows a man dubbed the quote King of Toxic
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Speaker 2: Masculinity being arrested.
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Speaker 1: In the dead of the night along with his.
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Speaker 2: Creepy brother and hauled into a Bucharist court in handcuffs.
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Speaker 2: Within hours, a judge approves the extradition of Andrew and
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Speaker 2: Tristan Tate to the UK, where they now face charges
25:39
Speaker 2: of sex aggression in a case that dates back to
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Speaker 2: two thousand and fifteen, but the judge says the Tate
25:48
Speaker 2: brothers won't actually be sent to the UK until they
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Speaker 2: face trial in Romania on separate charges of human trafficking,
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Speaker 2: rape and forming a criminal group to exploit women. Tate,
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Speaker 2: now thirty seven, describes himself as a misogynist. He's a
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Speaker 2: British American social media influencer, a former professional kickboxer, and
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Speaker 2: has around nine million followers on x formerly Twitter. Of course,
26:22
Speaker 2: many of them are just schoolboys.
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Speaker 1: Hello. Multiple women in multiple countries accuse him of rape,
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Speaker 1: sex assault and trafficking, and I'm bragging about the crimes
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Speaker 1: on social media.
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Speaker 2: Where's the US and all of this? You want to
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Speaker 2: tell me he has not exploited women from the US.
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Speaker 2: But let's go back to the beginning. To you, Caitlin Becker,
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Speaker 2: Senior investigator reporter dalimil dot com. Could you please explain
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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not doing a good job and I accept
26:54
Speaker 2: that you can do much better than me, explaining what
26:58
Speaker 2: kind of hate and witchall Andrew Tait spews?
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Speaker 1: What does he say?
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Speaker 8: Well, first and foremost fancy just to sort of put
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Speaker 8: the pimp question to bed. He sorry for the really
27:11
Speaker 8: poorly timed pun there too. He himself at a course
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Speaker 8: called PhD in the war room. This is where the
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Speaker 8: conversations that you were reading came from. And PhD stands
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Speaker 8: for pimpin hose degree. So he was doing this very
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Speaker 8: much in plain sight.
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Speaker 2: You know what, you are so polite? I am not
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Speaker 2: PhD pimpin' hoose degree. That's what he calls women, ladies, whores,
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Speaker 2: pimping whores degree.
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Speaker 1: Now, if he were just those were just words.
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Speaker 2: I can't proscue some money for words unless they're terroristic threats.
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Speaker 1: But these aren't just words.
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Speaker 2: Where do you think he's getting three hundred million dollars plus?
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Speaker 2: More women are being raped and subjugated and trafficked because
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Speaker 2: of Andrew Take's cult like members that he creates.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, please Titlin Becker. Well.
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Speaker 8: On top of that, Nancy, with the money, he essentially
28:19
Speaker 8: ran a pyramid scheme with his hustlers University. That was
28:23
Speaker 8: his more public platform. It was fifty bucks a month
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Speaker 8: and they he essentially gave people advice on how to
28:29
Speaker 8: be a better man and how to get wealthy, and
28:31
Speaker 8: how to control women. And then he would have those
28:34
Speaker 8: members go and recruit other members. So he's running this
28:38
Speaker 8: sort of pyramid scheme on one side that I think
28:41
Speaker 8: at one point had something like over one hundred thousand subscribers,
28:45
Speaker 8: in addition to this other war room, which was certainly
28:49
Speaker 8: more nefarious, and we know from those leaked text messages
28:53
Speaker 8: that they spoke about women in just the most degrading terms,
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Speaker 8: and they spoke about actions with women, about how they
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Speaker 8: wanted to basically enslave them, how they wanted them to
29:05
Speaker 8: not have any control, like you said, very cult like,
29:08
Speaker 8: very much cult like, not to have any control over
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Speaker 8: their finances, not be able to control what they did,
29:13
Speaker 8: what they wore, what they eat, who they saw, and
29:16
Speaker 8: also separate them from their families. So those are sort
29:19
Speaker 8: of the actionable things that he's accused of doing. But
29:22
Speaker 8: what it comes down to is he had a lot
29:25
Speaker 8: of these women allegedly performing online on something like OnlyFans,
29:30
Speaker 8: which is another subscription based service, and different kinds of
29:34
Speaker 8: pornography sites which are other subscription based services. So he
29:37
Speaker 8: would allegedly get the money in from that while forcing
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Speaker 8: these women for ten twelve hours a day to perform
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Speaker 8: these sex acts against their will. And these can be
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Speaker 8: done anywhere because everything is online.
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Speaker 2: Cheryl McCollum, I need you right now to help me explain.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm going to go to our other all star guests.
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Speaker 2: First of all, a renowned international attorney is joining us,
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Speaker 2: Algrin and Lee Reaber, incredible detect forensic detective.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl. I'm not making it clear. I don't think I
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Speaker 1: need you to help me.
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Speaker 2: I cannot expect everyone in this room or everyone listening
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Speaker 2: right now to understand the outrage that I'm feeling. I
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Speaker 2: think you have to go, and you have to either
30:25
Speaker 2: be a sex assault victim yourself, which guess what you'd
30:28
Speaker 2: be really surprised about the people you know that are
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Speaker 2: sex assault victims that have never mentioned it.
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Speaker 1: You'd be very.
30:39
Speaker 2: Surprised unless you are a sex assault victim, or have
30:43
Speaker 2: worked with sex assault victims, or you have gone and
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Speaker 2: you have seen for yourself the lives of these women
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Speaker 2: in the back of the nel salon, in the back
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Speaker 2: of the massage parlors, in the apartments is where they
31:00
Speaker 2: are beaten and drugged and raped by multiple men a day,
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Speaker 2: and their lives are torn apart.
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Speaker 1: And they are never the same.
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Speaker 2: The beatings, the humiliations these women, these girls just go numb.
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Speaker 2: And while I often say yeah, you can go on,
31:23
Speaker 2: you can go forward in their life, yeah you can,
31:27
Speaker 2: but they are forever wounded. Their psyche is forever messed up.
31:34
Speaker 2: Help me, Cheryl, I can't describe the stench, the smell,
31:38
Speaker 2: the anguish, the numbness that these women are living through
31:43
Speaker 2: right now. While we're talking about which word to use,
31:47
Speaker 2: they're being raped and sodomized and beaten right now.
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Speaker 12: Cheryl Anthey, I think you're doing a beautiful job that
31:53
Speaker 12: I know for us on the street level and law enforcement,
31:56
Speaker 12: it is so difficult when you find a location, you
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Speaker 12: kick that door in, and you see somebody that's about
32:03
Speaker 12: twelve years old, and they're scared to death to come
32:06
Speaker 12: to you. They're scared to death to talk. They will
32:10
Speaker 12: not give the person's name up, they will not tell
32:12
Speaker 12: what's been happening. They don't want to be reunited with
32:15
Speaker 12: their families. Everything in their life is upside down. And
32:21
Speaker 12: when you're talking about trying to help somebody and you know,
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Speaker 12: bring them back home and get them to a place
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Speaker 12: where they can maybe even go back to school, it's
32:30
Speaker 12: almost impossible.
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Speaker 2: Now, Cheryl, hold on, I want to talk about grown women. Okay,
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Speaker 2: and yes, everything you just said was right. But these women,
32:39
Speaker 2: it's like the ladies that I work with at the
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Speaker 2: Batter Women's Center. They're so beaten and beaten down and
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Speaker 2: drugged and it's horrible.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think.
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Speaker 12: About it, it's not much different for us. Since she's
32:53
Speaker 12: twenty one or thirty five, everything has been slipped for her.
33:00
Speaker 12: Paranoia is real, the drugs they were given them is real.
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Speaker 12: The beatings are real. So you are so afraid to
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Speaker 12: go against that person. It doesn't matter what somebody in
33:09
Speaker 12: law enforcement says, what somebody in your family says.
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Speaker 13: You believe this person that's.
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Speaker 12: Been beaten you, there's been drugging you, it's been sexually
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Speaker 12: assaulting you, is still in control of you, even if
33:20
Speaker 12: they've been taken to JAM.
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Speaker 9: This is Don Schilder Again. I don't think I am
33:24
Speaker 9: a survivor of all of that. That is exactly what
33:27
Speaker 9: I went through. I went through that with John Holmes.
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Speaker 9: I went through that with almost six years of being hidden,
33:33
Speaker 9: being beaten, being addicted to drugs, being forced into prostitution,
33:38
Speaker 9: being forced into crime. I did all of that. I
33:40
Speaker 9: know that trauma is a life sentence. So I feel
33:43
Speaker 9: you and I hear you on that on a big level,
33:46
Speaker 9: on a big level, and I do care about these
33:48
Speaker 9: women and I understand what they're going through. What he's doing,
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Speaker 9: I agree with you one hundred percent is absolutely egregious.
33:55
Speaker 9: That he's just throwing it in people's faces is even
33:57
Speaker 9: more insulting to survivors. I'm the victims are still out there,
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Speaker 9: scared to death.
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Speaker 13: To speak up.
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Speaker 9: You don't know you're a victim when you are coming
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Speaker 9: out of that. You've been brainwashed into believe in that
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Speaker 9: you did it to yourself, that you consented to all
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Speaker 9: of that. That's part of the tactic that the youth.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Back to the former YouTuber Southern. She describes years later
34:31
Speaker 2: when she read an article about other alleged assaults by
34:34
Speaker 2: Tate and says they were the same as what happened
34:37
Speaker 2: to her. She also says the sex assault was the
34:43
Speaker 2: driving force when she decided to leave politics. Now. The
34:48
Speaker 2: two brothers have been accused of many many crimes in
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Speaker 2: Romania and they will face criminal charges in the UK,
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Speaker 2: including human trafficking and rape you. Tate is accused of
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Speaker 2: pointing a gun at a woman's face and sex assaulting
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Speaker 2: an ex girlfriend. What more do we know about the
35:09
Speaker 2: Tate brothers. Greg Algrin is joining us as well as
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Speaker 2: Lee Reeber, Greg high profile international lawyer with the US
35:17
Speaker 2: dash INMX Law group. Listen to this more of the
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Speaker 2: messages in the misogynistic hate spewed by this alleged sex trafficker.
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Speaker 2: This is in his wor room instructs members to quote
35:34
Speaker 2: punish victims that would be women for transgressions by having
35:38
Speaker 2: her get our name tattooed on her. One group leader,
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Speaker 2: called a general, describes how he hit a woman in
35:49
Speaker 2: the head with her own keyboard when she complained about something.
35:53
Speaker 2: The woman who worked for him then went in the
35:56
Speaker 2: room and worked seven hours without a break. It goes
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Speaker 2: on and on and on about how to beat and
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Speaker 2: control women to perform pornographic acts. Group sex, many online,
36:13
Speaker 2: many on screen.
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Speaker 1: Greg Algrin is joining us. Greg.
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Speaker 2: A lot of what I know from these alleged messages
36:23
Speaker 2: of Andrew Tates I can't bring myself to repeat on
36:27
Speaker 2: the air.
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Speaker 1: But let me ask you, what can the US do
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Speaker 1: about it?
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Speaker 2: Because there are so many victims here I believe, including
36:37
Speaker 2: one victim whose name has somehow been linked and all
36:41
Speaker 2: these a holes working for Tait or working under Tait
36:47
Speaker 2: have actually started trolling her and sending this woman death threats.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what are we going to do about it?
36:54
Speaker 2: And what can we do about it?
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Speaker 13: Sure, so the situation, it's so outrageous that it cries
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Speaker 13: out for legal accountability, and I think, you know, eventually
37:10
Speaker 13: it has to catch up with all of them in
37:12
Speaker 13: a permanent right, because Andrew Tate is a citizen by
37:18
Speaker 13: birth of the United States, and so he can flee
37:21
Speaker 13: the country, but he can't. He can't lose that citizenship.
37:24
Speaker 13: And that means the US, with his network of mutual
37:29
Speaker 13: legal assistance treaties, is always going to have an interest. Perhaps,
37:35
Speaker 13: you know, it's a question of sort of capturing the
37:37
Speaker 13: attention of law enforcement. But the US has the means
37:41
Speaker 13: to catch up with it wherever he is and ensure
37:45
Speaker 13: there's some legal accountability. So it needs to happen a
37:49
Speaker 13: lot of times. It's very very slow, it's bureaucratic, but
37:53
Speaker 13: it's a process that is it can be virtually impossible
37:57
Speaker 13: to escape from once it gets started. So hopefully we'll
38:01
Speaker 13: see sooner rather than later that legal accountability. There's a
38:06
Speaker 13: structure for it. It just needs to be engaged.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Tate quote told rape victim he would get her pregnant,
38:16
Speaker 2: lock her away, allegedly find webcam workers that started crying
38:24
Speaker 2: during sex acts on webcam and tried to coerce them
38:29
Speaker 2: into group sex, and then they started crying and so
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Speaker 2: he punished them. This is his business that is making
38:40
Speaker 2: five million dollars a month. One victim claims Tate tried
38:46
Speaker 2: to force her to have group sex and said shut
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Speaker 2: up horror when she tried to object.
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Speaker 1: There are hundreds and hundreds of.
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Speaker 2: Pages of reported testimony and evidence really physically abusing these women.
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Speaker 2: One woman tells prosecutor's tape would rape her while holding
39:07
Speaker 2: her head so as she couldn't move, and threaten to
39:10
Speaker 2: get her pregnant. I mean it goes on and on
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Speaker 2: and on. He would take her clothes and shoes away
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Speaker 2: from her and continue to beat her. Shut up horror,
39:24
Speaker 2: You will do as I say. I mean, it goes
39:26
Speaker 2: on and on and on, and I'm reading you only
39:29
Speaker 2: portions of what I know. Many of these women, apparently Caitlin,
39:34
Speaker 2: are promised love a marriage, and then they are transported,
39:38
Speaker 2: many of them to Romania, where they are gang raped,
39:43
Speaker 2: sex exploited, and subjected to physical violence.
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Speaker 1: There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages of
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Speaker 1: reported violence.
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Speaker 2: One victim reports a take coworker, a henchman, threatens to
39:58
Speaker 2: quote break her teeth that she would end up in
40:02
Speaker 2: the morgue. The women creating porn for Tates Brothers webcam
40:08
Speaker 2: business allege their income is controlled by the Tates. They
40:14
Speaker 2: are fined or punished if they start crying during a
40:19
Speaker 2: sex act, if they wipe their nose, if they take
40:22
Speaker 2: too long on a break.
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Speaker 1: It just goes on and on and on.
40:27
Speaker 2: Many people ask how did Andrew and Tristan Tate get
40:30
Speaker 2: back into the US. We know that Florida launched a
40:33
Speaker 2: criminal investigation into the influencers. I guess you could call
40:38
Speaker 2: them that. They spew hate for women every day online
40:43
Speaker 2: Andrew and Tristan Tate. At the end of February, the
40:46
Speaker 2: two fled to the US from Romania, where they were
40:51
Speaker 2: accused of human trafficking and accused of forming an organized
40:55
Speaker 2: group to sex exploit women. Andrew Tate also accused of rape.
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Speaker 2: Of course, they deny all the charges. Now, the two
41:03
Speaker 2: were dual citizens in the UK and the US, and
41:07
Speaker 2: they have made millions of dollars off social media. Online
41:14
Speaker 2: they're extremely controversial with repeated offensive statements about women. They
41:23
Speaker 2: have an American dad who worked for the US Air
41:26
Speaker 2: Force in Britain. Their parents met in the UK and
41:30
Speaker 2: then they moved to the US. Now that's how they're
41:32
Speaker 2: US citizens through the dad. The parents divorced, the mom
41:36
Speaker 2: goes back to England. The brothers spent time there and
41:40
Speaker 2: police there linked them to quote terrifying radicalization of boys
41:47
Speaker 2: and young men into violence against women and girls. There
41:52
Speaker 2: was a big red flag in Romania that they were
41:54
Speaker 2: going to try and leave because they went quiet on
41:57
Speaker 2: social media. They then flew from book Rest to Florida
42:02
Speaker 2: on a private jet back in January.
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Speaker 1: Now why why? Why?
42:08
Speaker 2: The travel band had been lifted and the two got
42:11
Speaker 2: their US passports back. Oddly. The two have a huge
42:16
Speaker 2: US following. Many people, many many people in the crime
42:22
Speaker 2: victim community are extremely disturbed by reports that US officials
42:28
Speaker 2: asked for Tate's travel restrictions to be relaxed.
42:34
Speaker 1: Why now.
42:37
Speaker 2: The Florida criminal investigation is a civil lawsuit from a
42:43
Speaker 2: woman who claims they coerced her into sex work, then
42:46
Speaker 2: defamed her when she gave evidence to Remanian police. They
42:51
Speaker 2: deny this again. At this juncture the two are innocent
42:56
Speaker 2: until proven guilty. Will that ever happen. We wait as
43:02
Speaker 2: justice unfals. Goodbye friend
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Speaker 6: M.