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Lessons - The Abundance Mindset That Changes Everything | Saul Blinkoff - Disney Animator · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  In this lessons episode, explore how true leadership begins after achieving success and shifts
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  focus from personal wins to lasting impact. Discover why responsibility and service redefine
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  fulfillment beyond career milestones. Understand how awareness of mortality brings clarity to values
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  and decision-making, and uncover how using creative work to help others creates meaning that
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  outlives achievement.
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  When did you start to think like that? Because this is leadership lessons, it transcends growth,
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  it transcends accomplishment. There's many people that are highly successful that don't think that
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  way, and we're aligned with everything that you're saying. But you achieved what you wanted to
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  achieve, and you could have just killed it at Disney, and never really taken a second thought
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  as to what you wanted to accomplish your own life outside of that.
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  Yeah, you know, it's so you ask it beautifully. I mean, I was at Disney. I got my dream.
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  I had worked on Pocahontas, which was the first movie I worked on, and I worked on the
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  Hunchback of Notre Dame, and then Mulan. For four years, I worked on Mulan. Remember that one?
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  Of course. Let's get down to business, right? To defeat some people are singing in their cars.
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  The Huns, right? Some people ain't never heard the song. So after Mulan, before I went on the movie
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  Tarzan, we had at Disney what's called Downtime. Basically, they were figuring out the script on the
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  movie Tarzan for like a year. So the animators would come into work with nothing to do. They said,
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  you know, we're going to pay you, but you don't have to come into work at all. This is amazing.
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  Like I said, it's called Downtime. I always tell my kids, if anyone ever offers you a job and they
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  say, we have Downtime, take the job. Take it. You're getting paid to do nothing. And you know what
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  Downtime isn't Disney World. You ride roller coasters all day. It's Space Mountain, Splash Mountain,
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  Thunder Mountain. Woo! Right. I became quite the mountain here in Disney World, right? And
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  Downtime went to six months. They said, you don't even have to come in. So me and my buddies would go
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  to the pools at the Disney hotels. There's over 15 hotels in Disney World. And they had one of those
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  lazy rivers at the Beach Club Hotel. I love those. You know, you don't have to be alive and you can
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  swim, right? That moves you. It moves you for years, right? Yeah. Yeah. I got a whole opinion cloud
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  in my head. I remember my brother was in law school freezing. He's like, Saul, what are you up to
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  these days? I'm like, Jay, you don't want to know. I live in the dream. I actually live in the dream.
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  Yeah, I really was. And I had a checklist of every single thing I ever could have wanted.
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  You know, what if you could make a list and check off every single thing you want? I had my dream job.
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  I had this incredible girlfriend who I later married, right? My friends, I'm living in happiest
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  place when I had everything. But something felt like it was missing. And you know, I grew up,
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  I'm Jewish and I grew up, you know, not so religious. You know, my parents definitely had a love of
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  Judaism and a love of connecting to Judaism. But as an individual who is now an adult, I didn't really
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  understand my own Jewish identity. So I got out of the pool one day and I found myself in Israel
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  on a program to learn about Jewish history and my place within the Jewish people.
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  And when I went on that trip in Israel, I started learning about
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  tapping into what makes us unique. And really like you ask, what changed? It was really that one
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  word responsibility. I never, I really never, I always saw my life as like, if I get to Disney,
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  I'll be happy then I can make money and I get my name in a movie. I can buy a sports car and
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  I can get more when I want you know, there's a big buzz word you hear right now and a lot of people's
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  podcasts, a lot of motivational speakers, they're going to use this word. I think it's a turn off
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  word. I don't like it. I hope I don't offend anybody. The word is abundance.
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  Abundance here at all the time now, don't you? It is. Everyone talks about like, oh, if you do this,
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  you'll have more abundance. You know what abundance means? It means the word more. If you listen to
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  my seminar, you can have more of what of whatever it is you want. Is that what life is about?
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  I've actually heard it in a different context. Tell me. So I've heard in the context,
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  you want to live a mindset of abundance where everything you have is meant, everything you
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  achieve is meant to give to others. Oh, so your mindset is towards giving everything. I think
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  that's the right mindset for it. I've never, so I would say that the way you just define it is
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  that's a horrible representation of how you feel. I hear it, but I look the way you're saying it.
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  Interesting, because you're saying it's a mindset of giving as much as you can. Like there's so much
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  in the world that even if you make a million bucks or 10 million bucks or 100 million bucks,
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  like give it as much as you can, they'll always be more beautiful. That's the way that I've heard it.
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  Okay. I'm aimed to what you just said. That's awesome. I love it. That's how I've heard it describe.
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  You want to live a mindset of abundance. There's so much like, for example, if you're in, I don't know,
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  say you're in business with somebody and you have to be ethical and you're going to lose a deal,
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  you lose that deal because there's so much more out there that you shouldn't be worried
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  of a compromising who you are as a person. There's more. Yeah, there's a lot of other opportunities.
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  Yes, but not personal abundance, just like the world is infinite. Right. So much, there's so much
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  of everything. Right. That's a different form of abundance. I love that. Well, I wish I had your
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  definition back when I was starting because I needed that. Well, that's what Israel gave me. They
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  gave me that kind of understanding more in line to what exactly what you said. Scott more about the
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  idea of the other people of how do you serve other people? And by the way, they changed everything
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  in my life because now I didn't just see myself as a filmmaker making whatever movies. It was like,
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  what are the values that I'm putting in the projects that I work on? And I've turned down projects
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  from studios that I don't think are in line with the values of what I want to do. Like right now,
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  today, I'm a supervising producer, a dream works animation. And I look back at the projects that I've
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  done. And I got to direct a show called Doc McStuffins. I don't know if you know this show. I don't
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  know that. Okay. So this was only the number one preschool show in the world. That's fine. But it
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  was about eight years ago. I am older. You are not that young. Right. But like this show, which
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  is an incredible show created by Chris knee and incredible show creator, this show made a huge
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  impact because it's a show about a little girl who's a doctor to her toys. And because of this show,
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  it had the goal of letting kids know that they can be comfortable when they go to the doctor's
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  office. And how many people have come up to me over the years and said, I'm so grateful that
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  you made this show because it shows kids it's okay to go to the doctors. It really made an impact.
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  And now as a filmmaker, I try to use my love of being a filmmaker to make stories and tell stories
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  that I think are going to impact others and to make a difference. And that's really how I look
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  at my life now, you know, because someday I hope this doesn't sound morbid, but the reality is
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  someday we're all going to die. Like we're all going to be in the ground. That's a fact. It's
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  true. You know, in Judaism, there's an idea. It says, if you have to choose to go to a wedding
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  or a funeral, choose the funeral. And some people hearing that are like, are you crazy? Like, why would
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  you do that? Go to a wedding, get the dress up, eat the sushi, celebrate, give a cheers, drink
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  champagne, sing dance, beautifully steak. That's what you want to do. Who wants to go to a funeral?
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  But you see, when you go to a wedding, do you have a glorious time? And it's wonderful. Yeah. And
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  you give the brining room all this great pleasure. Sure. But when you go to a funeral, every single
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  one of us stands there. And for at least a moment, we have a realization that someday that's going
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  to be me that I'm going to be in the ground. And when we leave a funeral, hopefully we have the
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  mindset of thinking, you know what, I'm on limited time. What am I waiting for? What else do I
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  want to accomplish? And that's what we have to ask ourselves, what are we waiting for?
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  Did you ever heard the concept of stoicism? No, what is that? That's the concept of stoicism.
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  It's being very cognizant of your mortality. Yeah, I think there it goes back to
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  Roman Roman philosophers. And I could be misquoting because I don't have a computer to fact check.
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  But one of the concepts of stoicism is always be cognizant that one day you're not going to be
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  around anymore and always to humble yourself to that fact, even to help as much as you can, to the
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  point where I think there was this is a story that I've heard through a friend of a friend. So
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  excuse me if it's not 100% factually accurate. But the story is when people when when generals
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  would come back from more and cities were celebrating them and whatnot, they were in chariots and
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  they were going through the city and people, there was like a big parade, right? Because they just
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  were successful in their conquest of whatever part of the world they conquest it. And they would
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  have somebody in the chariot that would always be whispering in the generals ear like you're only
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  human, you're going to die to make sure they didn't think they were gods. So that was something that was
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  that's awesome. You know Steve Jobs, I think, said a quote about that. He was at the Stamford
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  University address he was giving. I know this I know that I've seen this clip. See this clip, right?
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  It says like one of the greatest gifts to humanity is having the awareness that one day
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  we're going to die and that that should give us the understanding, the clarity that we need to
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  not wait. You know, we don't have the rest of our lives. We don't know what tomorrow is going to
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  bring. And that's why when you go to a funeral, you leave that funeral with more clarity of what's
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  important in life and what what matters in life. And that's the kind of clarity that I try to
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  put into everything and I do. And I know that someday my kids are going to see my name
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  scrolled out on a gravestone. The same name that's been in the credits of Mulan and Tarzan and
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  all these big Disney movies. But who cares about those? And my kids are going to want to know,
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  you know what, did my dad try to become a better person? Did he try and live the values that he
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  talks about? Did he try to become a better human being? Because at the end of the day, I really
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  think that's what life's about. How do we grow? You know, I had on my podcast, George Foreman,
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  the boxer, heavyweight champ. You probably think he's from the grill. You don't even know I do know
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  he's a boxer. Okay, right. I have that. I know I'm from the grill. I know from the grill more. Yeah,
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  you know, all right. You're that generate. Yeah. Right. So, right, he was heavyweight champion in the
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  world twice with a 20 year interval. By the way, I didn't know that. He was heavyweight champion in the
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  world at 20 years old. And then 20 years like goes into retirement after he was a laughing stock.
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  And then he was even trying. He does it again. He made for the Foreman grill his first year on
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  that grill, $138 million. The guy is doing okay. He was a gold medal Olympian. That's incredible.
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  Gold medal Olympian, heavyweight boxer, fortune 500. The grill is on a TV show. I mean, he's done
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  everything. And I asked him one question. George, what's the legacy you want to leave your kids?
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  How do you want the world to remember you? What's your legacy? He didn't mention anything about money.
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  He didn't mention anything about grill or boxing. He says, there's one thing I want people to
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  remember about me. And you know what it is that I loved humanity that I loved human beings that when
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  I walked down the street, I had the mindset that I wanted to smile at a person and make their day
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  just a little bit better. You know, I said earlier about the word responsibility. I heard a
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  beautiful thing about that word once. It says response ability is really the ability to respond.
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  Response ability is the ability to respond. And wherever in life we have the ability to respond,
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  we should. We're responsible. How can we make a difference in another person's life? Because when
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  we do that, we get that real pixie dust. We get that life of meeting.
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