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- 0:01Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, did you don't talk with Black Warris? Did you?
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, Welcome to Tuesday,
- 0:19Speaker 1: Jags Drive Time. Sunny, looking like it's gonna be hot
- 0:22Speaker 1: out there today, beautiful day, which means we're getting closer
- 0:25Speaker 1: to the started football. We've got a long way to go, though,
- 0:27Speaker 1: it does kind of show up this week. More on
- 0:31Speaker 1: that in a bit. Welcome Brian Sexton, Ashlyn Sullivan, John
- 0:35Speaker 1: Osier and the man you can't see who really should
- 0:37Speaker 1: probably hosting the show today. Joe Fortunato. Yeah, he's on it.
- 0:40Speaker 1: He's on it, he's got its wit is sharp, he is.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Um well, I don't mess with him. Just leave it
- 0:47Speaker 1: at that, not stay at least absolutely if the camera
- 0:50Speaker 1: goes to him today, folks look the other way. Um, Hi,
- 0:54Speaker 1: how are you guys? Feel like I'm in Game of
- 0:55Speaker 1: Thrones here? Why do you say that? I think people
- 0:58Speaker 1: to get there right right? You don't get the reference.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I don't watch it get Yeah, but you're like you're
- 1:06Speaker 1: like a social media queen. I am, but no, when
- 1:09Speaker 1: I see a Game of Thrones tweet. I just keep
- 1:11Speaker 1: scrolling because there was a cup of coffee left in
- 1:14Speaker 1: one of the shots and they didn't have Starbucks in
- 1:19Speaker 1: that era, if that or even exists, right, don't you
- 1:22Speaker 1: see what I mean? John? You watch it, but I
- 1:26Speaker 1: am on Twitter. He's with it. I watch it, but
- 1:29Speaker 1: I didn't see it. You didn't catch it. I didn't
- 1:31Speaker 1: catch it. But John, what a cachastrophe that is? I
- 1:35Speaker 1: kind of thought it was funny. It's funny. This reminds us. No,
- 1:38Speaker 1: it's perfect. No, it's perfect. Max. Okay. So with that,
- 1:42Speaker 1: I referenced football started, at least the field of football
- 1:45Speaker 1: starting to return this week. It does to some degree.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Big things and you're going big thing one is the
- 1:51Speaker 1: rookies are and they'll be landing throughout the week. They'll
- 1:54Speaker 1: be in on Thursday getting their helmets fitted, all of
- 1:56Speaker 1: that fun stuff, and then we'll see them on the
- 1:58Speaker 1: field on Friday. Throughout the weekend for rookie Mini Camp.
- 2:01Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Josh Allen and John Taylor on
- 2:04Speaker 1: the podium on Friday. Guys, what are we looking for
- 2:06Speaker 1: this weekend? Well, we're hoping that we never see what
- 2:09Speaker 1: happened in again and that is, anyone get injured, right,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I mean, rookie minicamp is a chance for guys to
- 2:15Speaker 1: get in. It's more about getting familiar with the facility,
- 2:20Speaker 1: the daily schedule, Uh, their teammates. Well, you're looking for
- 2:26Speaker 1: guys to show up and look like well, I give
- 2:28Speaker 1: it this way. Vic always used to tell a story
- 2:30Speaker 1: about back in the day when they were seventeen rounds
- 2:33Speaker 1: and a guy showed up with three fingers on his hand. Right,
- 2:36Speaker 1: because they didn't have enough scouting Batman, they just had
- 2:38Speaker 1: written reports. Do you hope everybody that shows up is
- 2:41Speaker 1: in good shape and is exactly what you drafted or signed? Well,
- 2:44Speaker 1: and unless something dramatically changes from what I think it's
- 2:48Speaker 1: going to be, it's not a whole lot of on
- 2:52Speaker 1: field football or that changed after Dante Fouler get injured.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Any sort of a risk because the training that they
- 3:02Speaker 1: do to get ready for the draft is very different
- 3:05Speaker 1: than what their bodies will go through when they actually
- 3:07Speaker 1: start playing football. So I think with Dante and with
- 3:10Speaker 1: some other things, they just decided that the risk was
- 3:13Speaker 1: too much too Why put them on the field in
- 3:16Speaker 1: some sort of competitive bs a situation that they're not
- 3:22Speaker 1: trying to evaluate. At that point, you're not trying to
- 3:25Speaker 1: figure out is this guy going to start over this guy?
- 3:28Speaker 1: You want to get them acclimated. The whole idea between
- 3:31Speaker 1: now and really the first day of training camp as
- 3:35Speaker 1: much as possible, is to have the rookies so that
- 3:39Speaker 1: July six, whatever it is, when that day starts, they
- 3:44Speaker 1: are able to compete so that they can evaluate. Everything
- 3:47Speaker 1: else is uh is a prelude to that for the rookies.
- 3:52Speaker 1: All the meetings, they'll go over the game plan. They'll
- 3:54Speaker 1: put in the offense two or three times for him
- 3:56Speaker 1: so that they have the best chance of being a
- 3:58Speaker 1: part of the team and not or hey where the bathroom? Yeah?
- 4:01Speaker 1: I mean you know what the first day schools like, Right,
- 4:03Speaker 1: where's my locker? You know, where's my my English class?
- 4:06Speaker 1: How M supposed to get there over the next couple
- 4:08Speaker 1: of days or the days this weekend that they'll be here.
- 4:11Speaker 1: It really is just about finding a level of comfort
- 4:14Speaker 1: so that they're not their heads aren't spinning because Josh
- 4:16Speaker 1: Allen winning a one on one John Taylor on Friday.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Who cares? Doesn't? Yeah, you hope that it doesn't happen
- 4:23Speaker 1: at all. And you talk about how much you want
- 4:25Speaker 1: to make it safe, and they have made it so safe.
- 4:27Speaker 1: But you saw what happened in Kansas City yesterday where
- 4:29Speaker 1: a player got injured in Andy Reid and it practice,
- 4:31Speaker 1: and it still happens no matter how safe you can
- 4:33Speaker 1: make it. Sadly, I thought by the way that the
- 4:36Speaker 1: entire league had gone to that, recognizing that every one
- 4:39Speaker 1: of these players in all thirty two cities is in
- 4:41Speaker 1: the same boat, not prepared or practice, not physically ready
- 4:46Speaker 1: for practice. They've been running forties and lifting weights. I
- 4:49Speaker 1: thought that that had become a standard in the league.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Apparently not not physically ready and not really mentally to
- 4:58Speaker 1: that point. Yet their heads are spinning, are trying to
- 5:00Speaker 1: figure out again where the bathrooms are. Hey, you know
- 5:03Speaker 1: I passed my physical Great, who's this guy? So there's
- 5:08Speaker 1: just no there's no reason to rush them at this point. Well,
- 5:11Speaker 1: and to that point, you read the story so and
- 5:13Speaker 1: so look great in rookie minicamp. Please please, that's as
- 5:18Speaker 1: ridiculous as the first round mocked drafts that are out
- 5:22Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't matter that that that's not how
- 5:24Speaker 1: they're being evaluate unless apparently maybe they are in Kansas City.
- 5:28Speaker 1: But you're talking about By the way, besides the draft
- 5:30Speaker 1: class and the undrafted, there are trial players that are
- 5:32Speaker 1: going to be in here, right, Guys who didn't even
- 5:35Speaker 1: get the coal to sign an undrafted rookie free agent contract.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Whoa you know WHOA Before we do any evaluations on
- 5:43Speaker 1: how good Josh Allen, you really don't want. Is Josh
- 5:47Speaker 1: Allen going against the guy Bob Smith from South Dakota State. Yeah,
- 5:52Speaker 1: who's Who's Who's trying to impress the world. So you
- 5:54Speaker 1: want to make sure that you as you bring along
- 5:58Speaker 1: your commodities at at the pace that they should be smart,
- 6:02Speaker 1: have everybody show up, stay healthy, and at least lay
- 6:04Speaker 1: the groundworks so that when they do show up for
- 6:08Speaker 1: O t A mini camp, they're ready to go. Okay,
- 6:11Speaker 1: all right. Big thing too is the drama that is
- 6:14Speaker 1: going on with Kinique ingak Way. He posted an Instagram
- 6:17Speaker 1: video yesterday with money flowing at the beginning of it,
- 6:19Speaker 1: showing him working out in Miami. Hasn't been present for
- 6:22Speaker 1: some offseason workouts. It's all over social media. What the
- 6:24Speaker 1: heck is going on with him? And it's obvious that
- 6:27Speaker 1: he wants to be paid like he thinks he deserves
- 6:29Speaker 1: to be paid well. He has a good argument, and
- 6:31Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys who are in his area.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Right what is the eleventh with twenty nine and a
- 6:37Speaker 1: half sack since there are some guys who are behind
- 6:40Speaker 1: him in terms of production that have gotten the big contracts,
- 6:44Speaker 1: but they're not playing at Jacksonville. They're not here right
- 6:47Speaker 1: now where the jag Wars committed to the nick Foles
- 6:50Speaker 1: and didn't sell out for his contract. And by the way,
- 6:55Speaker 1: there's Jalen Ramsey who's got a big ask coming as well.
- 6:59Speaker 1: He gonna get tricky. It's it's not a lot of
- 7:04Speaker 1: emails is basically big exclamation points in capital letter saying
- 7:08Speaker 1: pay the man. Well, that's great, but you can't just
- 7:12Speaker 1: at this point in the process. You may have the
- 7:16Speaker 1: franchise tag option for him in I think Jalen at
- 7:23Speaker 1: some point. It's so hard to go through all the
- 7:27Speaker 1: all the possibilities on this. But you have to account
- 7:30Speaker 1: for them both. You have to account for them both.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Um in theory, yes, and but they also drafted Josh
- 7:38Speaker 1: Allen and that this example in team, the New England
- 7:45Speaker 1: Patriots traded Chandler Jones, who had had thirty six sacks
- 7:49Speaker 1: in his first four seasons for a first round pick
- 7:51Speaker 1: right to get out of Syracuse. And since that point
- 7:55Speaker 1: we mentioned that John is eleventh with twenty nine and
- 7:57Speaker 1: a half sacks since the same because he was traded
- 8:00Speaker 1: the same year that John came into the league. This
- 8:02Speaker 1: kid has forty one. So the Patriots traded away the
- 8:05Speaker 1: best pass rusher in football the last three years for
- 8:09Speaker 1: a second round pick and a guard right, and they
- 8:12Speaker 1: traded the guard Jonathan Cooper didn't pan out, and they
- 8:15Speaker 1: traded back and they got Malcolm Mitchell and Joe Toney.
- 8:17Speaker 1: And basically the longest short of it is, the Patriots
- 8:20Speaker 1: have won two Super Bowls and played in the third
- 8:22Speaker 1: after trading Chandler Jones away because they realized with Trey
- 8:26Speaker 1: Flowers behind him that it wouldn't be a prudent move
- 8:29Speaker 1: for their salary cap to tie him up in a
- 8:31Speaker 1: hundred million dollar mega deal. Right. And by the way,
- 8:33Speaker 1: they just let Tray Flowers go. At some point, you
- 8:36Speaker 1: have to have it isn't being willing to let guys go.
- 8:40Speaker 1: At some point, you have to let guys go because
- 8:42Speaker 1: your cap just can't sustain hundred million dollar contracts all
- 8:46Speaker 1: over the place. I don't know whether that's the case
- 8:48Speaker 1: with you Unique and GQUI or not, but it certainly
- 8:50Speaker 1: is part of the conversation. And you mentioned drafting Josh Allen.
- 8:52Speaker 1: That's what you do. By the way, football is a
- 8:55Speaker 1: game of replacement, not maintenance. You got to find the
- 8:58Speaker 1: next youngest best player and keep your salary cap healthy
- 9:02Speaker 1: long term. And this you know. The last three minutes
- 9:05Speaker 1: have a tone of they're not gonna pay Unique. I don't.
- 9:09Speaker 1: I don't think that's a I think there is. I
- 9:13Speaker 1: think a deal will get done. I think they will
- 9:15Speaker 1: perceive him as being too valuable. He's a guy who's homegrown.
- 9:19Speaker 1: But it's not just a matter of oh well it's
- 9:25Speaker 1: Unique is now out of O t A or out
- 9:27Speaker 1: of the offseason program. Now we have to go pay
- 9:30Speaker 1: him a lot of time. These things take time. There's
- 9:33Speaker 1: timing issues. There's okay, are we going to get a
- 9:35Speaker 1: long term deal done with Jalen? Which I don't know
- 9:38Speaker 1: if they are not, but there are factors that happened. Okay, well,
- 9:42Speaker 1: now we can franchise Unique. That might not make them happy,
- 9:45Speaker 1: but you never know. A lot goes into these None
- 9:49Speaker 1: of the things I just mentioned are things that I've
- 9:51Speaker 1: heard are going to happen, but possibility, it's not going
- 9:55Speaker 1: to be just as easy as oh, well he's out
- 9:58Speaker 1: of training camp or out of off season, let's give
- 10:02Speaker 1: me a contract. If I had to guess, I would
- 10:05Speaker 1: say maybe something gets done before training camp. But my
- 10:08Speaker 1: guess is this goes up until a deadline and it's
- 10:11Speaker 1: going to be a thing. I don't know how they
- 10:13Speaker 1: get it done by training camp unless they restructure Calais,
- 10:16Speaker 1: Campbell or a J. Boyer because they just don't have
- 10:19Speaker 1: a lot of cap room to wiggle on this, which
- 10:21Speaker 1: you can do that without because you've got guys going
- 10:27Speaker 1: out with the books next year. Right to a degree
- 10:30Speaker 1: you can because Marcel dar Is, you figure almost as
- 10:32Speaker 1: certainty has gone. It's just cap figures two and a
- 10:34Speaker 1: half million next year and Calais is seventeen and a
- 10:37Speaker 1: half million and boy As over fifteen million last year.
- 10:40Speaker 1: So yeah, you can look forward to that. But it
- 10:42Speaker 1: isn't ever as simple. Here's the other thing, and I
- 10:44Speaker 1: don't know how much they're factoring it in, but what
- 10:47Speaker 1: game do the Patriots play better than anyone else when
- 10:51Speaker 1: it comes to their roster, to their roster, the compensatory
- 10:55Speaker 1: pick right those third round picks that you get when
- 10:58Speaker 1: you let guys leave. The best teams out there right
- 11:01Speaker 1: now are the ones that have mastered that, and it
- 11:04Speaker 1: is about replacement. So at some point, and I don't
- 11:06Speaker 1: know whether it's Yourn or not, you let a guy
- 11:08Speaker 1: go and your salary cap is freed up of the
- 11:11Speaker 1: burden of a two million dollar camp hit. The next
- 11:14Speaker 1: year you come around and you've got a third round
- 11:16Speaker 1: pick that's valuable capital. They play it well, and they do.
- 11:22Speaker 1: They're able to play it well because they have Brady.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I get that, because if you don't have that guy,
- 11:29Speaker 1: it's hard to just let pieces go because any the
- 11:32Speaker 1: pieces come more important. I get that. They also get
- 11:35Speaker 1: it because Brady is willing to do a less than
- 11:37Speaker 1: market deal for himself. Right. Competitory picks are all the
- 11:39Speaker 1: rage right now. Um well, now that you can trade them,
- 11:42Speaker 1: they're even more valuable. But a third round pick is
- 11:45Speaker 1: still start usually not going to become unique in terms
- 11:50Speaker 1: of the production in the sacks. Give a couple of
- 11:52Speaker 1: guys that did, I mean, justin Houston. Robert Mathis was
- 11:56Speaker 1: the fifth round pick. I mean, you find these guys, um,
- 11:59Speaker 1: you an Brady in the sixth round. But it's raight unknown.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Well yeah, but it's right. He is extremely were But
- 12:06Speaker 1: remember Jared Allen, right, sixth round long snapper who had
- 12:11Speaker 1: back to back twenty sacks seasons. You can find these guys.
- 12:13Speaker 1: There's a long history of teams mining these pass rushers.
- 12:17Speaker 1: But just in Houston getting to a habit of, hey,
- 12:20Speaker 1: we're letting our great guys go for a fourth round pick.
- 12:23Speaker 1: That's still a little bit of a canting that they do.
- 12:28Speaker 1: But I'm suggesting that there are teams that use that
- 12:30Speaker 1: as a strategy very effectively. And I think you'd agree
- 12:34Speaker 1: that when you're looking at Jalen Ramsey, unique and got
- 12:36Speaker 1: Way plus a twenty million dollar hit on the quarterback,
- 12:39Speaker 1: you've got to figure out, one way or another how
- 12:41Speaker 1: you're going to make it all work at you. Alright.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Big thing three. We talked about the guys that are
- 12:45Speaker 1: not here for offseason workouts. One of them is and
- 12:48Speaker 1: it's someone that we said had to be here throughout
- 12:50Speaker 1: the entire offseason workouts, and that's Leonard for Net. You
- 12:52Speaker 1: see this picture him standing next to Folds building relationships.
- 12:56Speaker 1: He hosted a movie theater event Friday night where he
- 12:59Speaker 1: posted on Twitter, you know everyone come watch the Avengers
- 13:01Speaker 1: with me. I'm paying for everyone's tickets. I've heard it
- 13:04Speaker 1: was a really good event. And he's just building himself
- 13:07Speaker 1: a name here in Jacksonville this off season. It said,
- 13:09Speaker 1: we said, that's what he had to do this offseason. Yes,
- 13:13Speaker 1: is there sound okay? Uh? We said, it's what he
- 13:18Speaker 1: had to do. It's it's a good start, and it's
- 13:22Speaker 1: the right steps towards the path he needs to take.
- 13:25Speaker 1: You know, outside of the the unpaid parking ticket, he's
- 13:28Speaker 1: had a solid offseason, a nice offseason. You know, he
- 13:31Speaker 1: went and worked in Wyoming. He's been here for the
- 13:34Speaker 1: off season program. Um. And that's why I was important
- 13:37Speaker 1: to remember that that was an outby. I was left over,
- 13:40Speaker 1: remember from something that totally He's had a nice offseason,
- 13:44Speaker 1: and for a guy who was drafted number four overall
- 13:47Speaker 1: and a central piece of the offense, he had to rebound.
- 13:50Speaker 1: And keep in mind, he's not the most humble guy, right.
- 13:54Speaker 1: He's not a guy who you could say, hey, you
- 13:57Speaker 1: need to rebound and him go, absolutely, I do need
- 13:59Speaker 1: to rebound this year. You wondered whether or not, when
- 14:01Speaker 1: the season ended, if he would grasp the need for
- 14:06Speaker 1: his rebirth right he did good for him. So far,
- 14:10Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, okay, that'll do it for big things.
- 14:14Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll take a look at the
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- 16:21Speaker 1: time play baker from mort Clair, New Jersey, Josh all
- 16:29Speaker 1: Lent coming at him from behind the Kentucky's gottas Josh
- 16:33Speaker 1: Allen sports the ball. Well, there's the seventh overall pick
- 16:45Speaker 1: from last month's draft, and we were just talking about
- 16:47Speaker 1: Unique and Gownckway, and you look, you salivate a little
- 16:51Speaker 1: bit thinking about those two guys coming off. You know
- 16:53Speaker 1: which one has a greater impact on the other. I
- 16:56Speaker 1: mean to have Yanni and Gonckway on one side screaming
- 16:59Speaker 1: around the edge and then this six ft five ti
- 17:02Speaker 1: pounder coming off the other side. Uh, it's a nice combination.
- 17:06Speaker 1: And I get white people would say, how would you
- 17:08Speaker 1: possibly take away you know what could be a long
- 17:11Speaker 1: term tandem. Uh in this game. And don't get me wrong,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I'm not saying let him walk. I'm saying he's doing
- 17:19Speaker 1: what's good for him business wise. Right now he has
- 17:22Speaker 1: been underpaid as a third round pick. With his production,
- 17:24Speaker 1: He's making the smart move. My point is the Jaguars
- 17:28Speaker 1: have the ability to franchise him or let him walk
- 17:32Speaker 1: or pay him. They have to decide what the best
- 17:34Speaker 1: move for them is. And it isn't just right the
- 17:38Speaker 1: big check because CON's got the money. I've seen his boat.
- 17:41Speaker 1: It ain't that easy. But fans do think that. You've
- 17:44Speaker 1: had so many fans come up to all us single,
- 17:45Speaker 1: he's good, why don't you just pay him? Yeah, well
- 17:47Speaker 1: he's also And look at Vic Beasley, and I think
- 17:49Speaker 1: it's worth pointing out Beasley was a top pick and
- 17:51Speaker 1: he led the league with sixteen sacks a few years ago.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Um but has not been able because he's two thirty pounds,
- 17:58Speaker 1: he's in that same range as Junique is. He has
- 18:01Speaker 1: not been able to reproduce that sort of effort um.
- 18:05Speaker 1: And you have to take that into account. Alan is
- 18:08Speaker 1: a two pound prototypical size pass rushing end. Unique is
- 18:12Speaker 1: the undersized guy. Now, don't get me wrong, he has
- 18:15Speaker 1: played oversize. But you have to factor in where where
- 18:18Speaker 1: that line is that you can afford to pay. DeMarcus
- 18:21Speaker 1: Lawrence got the big contract, Frank Clark got the big contract.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Does that mean Unique absolutely is going to get it.
- 18:28Speaker 1: That's the business decision they have to make. It's a
- 18:30Speaker 1: Unique once and I think I think the team and
- 18:32Speaker 1: Unique are going to be apart for a while, and
- 18:35Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a hard thing to
- 18:37Speaker 1: get there sense as they do. I think it's gonna
- 18:40Speaker 1: be a lot of tricking people want. Yeah, alright, alright,
- 18:43Speaker 1: speaking of Unique and Gockway, let's look at the depth
- 18:46Speaker 1: chart as we see it, and let's start with defensive
- 18:48Speaker 1: end as we see it right now on May seven.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Five options for each position. We broke it down defensive
- 18:54Speaker 1: end Clays, Campbell, Unique and Gockway, Josh Allen dat wants
- 18:57Speaker 1: new and laurent A mccraig. That's a we see it today.
- 19:00Speaker 1: You know, um, if you take Josh Allen out of there,
- 19:03Speaker 1: let's say Alan gets picked at number six by New
- 19:05Speaker 1: York and you take the tight end Hockinson, which is
- 19:08Speaker 1: what I believe they would have done. Boy, you're thin.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Alan really makes a lot of sense for this football team.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Besides the business side, having that guy on the field
- 19:18Speaker 1: for you allows you to do a bunch of different things.
- 19:20Speaker 1: And let's not forget Clay's Campbell's thirty two years old.
- 19:22Speaker 1: At some point, those guys need a little more time
- 19:24Speaker 1: on the sideline to be as effective as they can be.
- 19:27Speaker 1: It's a It's a huge year for Smooth, who showed
- 19:29Speaker 1: some signs as a rookie and then, uh, you know,
- 19:32Speaker 1: had sort of a lost year because the injury is
- 19:34Speaker 1: an et cetera. Last year. Uh, he's probably playing for
- 19:37Speaker 1: his career this year. I would agree. Yeah, that's a
- 19:39Speaker 1: it's a talented group. But you see when you when
- 19:42Speaker 1: that goes up around the league. When the Jaguars drafted Allen,
- 19:45Speaker 1: they said that's a value pick, that that's not a
- 19:47Speaker 1: need pick. Some people were critical on the national side
- 19:50Speaker 1: of things. Uh, that's absolutely a need pick. This team
- 19:52Speaker 1: needed more pass rush. It fell off from seven teen
- 19:55Speaker 1: and fifty five sacks to thirty seven in eighteen. This
- 19:59Speaker 1: defense needs more production. Allen was an absolutely value and need,
- 20:03Speaker 1: especially when you have the quarterbacks you do in the
- 20:05Speaker 1: ABC South, no doubt. All right, let's look at offensive tackle.
- 20:08Speaker 1: We all know the injuries that they faced last year.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, Jawan Taylor, Josh Wells, will Richardson Jr. And
- 20:15Speaker 1: Cedric Oh boy he So who do you see as
- 20:17Speaker 1: the swing tackle in there? Because Taylor, I would assume
- 20:20Speaker 1: you agree, is the starter Right now? I think it's Wells.
- 20:23Speaker 1: And but this the thing about Wells that you don't
- 20:26Speaker 1: know is is the injury issue? Can you stay healthy?
- 20:29Speaker 1: And I think that's why they've got to try to
- 20:32Speaker 1: replace him. When I say that, I don't mean it
- 20:35Speaker 1: in a cruel way. I just mean they would like
- 20:38Speaker 1: somebody to play as well as Wells, who is as
- 20:44Speaker 1: who is more reliable. If Wells had shown last year
- 20:48Speaker 1: that he could played the last eleven well he had
- 20:50Speaker 1: done that, He'd gotten paid be somewhere else. But if
- 20:53Speaker 1: if he could show that he could play for an
- 20:55Speaker 1: extended period of time as well as he had for
- 20:57Speaker 1: a short period of time, he'd be a lock for
- 20:59Speaker 1: this Twain attack. You know. Right now, I think they
- 21:00Speaker 1: have to try to get somebody to push him out
- 21:02Speaker 1: of it. It's too bad that Will Richardson spent half
- 21:05Speaker 1: the season on injury reserve last year because he would
- 21:07Speaker 1: have gotten a chance to play right tackle. You know,
- 21:09Speaker 1: he might have even got a chance to play over
- 21:10Speaker 1: the left side with all the injuries that they had
- 21:12Speaker 1: last year. Um, but we don't know anything about him
- 21:15Speaker 1: at this point other than former fourth round pick training camp.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Were impressed by him, but I haven't seen anything from
- 21:20Speaker 1: It's a big year for him for his NFL career,
- 21:22Speaker 1: and the Jaguars certainly would like to see him become
- 21:24Speaker 1: their swing tackle. All right, Let's look at tight end
- 21:27Speaker 1: position that they said they needed to address in the draft,
- 21:31Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, James, O'Shaughnessy, Ben Koya, Jeff Swim, and Pharaoh McKeever.
- 21:35Speaker 1: You see that that third round pick the top tight ends,
- 21:40Speaker 1: he comes in kind of like um, like Jamal Jawan
- 21:43Speaker 1: Taylor does. As far as I'm concerned. The other guys,
- 21:46Speaker 1: we know what they are. I don't know much about
- 21:47Speaker 1: Jeff Swam and Para mckever is still a developmental project.
- 21:50Speaker 1: But oh, Shaunessy and Kayak had been around here the
- 21:52Speaker 1: last couple of years. They're fine. But Oliver third round
- 21:56Speaker 1: pick comes in with a greater expectation. Well, I would
- 22:02Speaker 1: guess when they opened in a two tight end offense,
- 22:04Speaker 1: which teams like to do because of the balance, it'll
- 22:07Speaker 1: be swiming all and I swam. Dave Colo said during
- 22:12Speaker 1: the draft. More of a blocking guy. UH can can
- 22:15Speaker 1: do a little bit of both. Maybe their most balanced
- 22:18Speaker 1: tight end in terms of being able to do both. UH.
- 22:20Speaker 1: And the major question is Oliver. He is such a
- 22:23Speaker 1: pass past receiving threat. UH. Can he block well enough
- 22:28Speaker 1: to give them legitimate two tight end looks where you
- 22:31Speaker 1: don't know why the tight ends are in the game.
- 22:34Speaker 1: If you've got two guys who can at least give
- 22:37Speaker 1: you marginal blocking and receiving, you can run a lot
- 22:40Speaker 1: more and you're much harder to defend. That'll be Oliver's
- 22:43Speaker 1: task as a rookie. I go back to Marcedes in
- 22:46Speaker 1: two thousand and six when he came in and you
- 22:47Speaker 1: weren't here, John, you were an Indy. Um. He was
- 22:50Speaker 1: a guy who had fifty eight catches and ten touchdowns
- 22:52Speaker 1: in his last year U C l A. And Kyle
- 22:55Speaker 1: Brady was still here, and Brady was going to be
- 22:57Speaker 1: the blocker and Marcedes was going to be the receiver,
- 22:59Speaker 1: and Mercedes developed into a better run blocking tight end,
- 23:04Speaker 1: became a good pass blocking tight end. So the only
- 23:06Speaker 1: thing I can think of is he's got the body forward,
- 23:08Speaker 1: he's got the length, he's got the size. If you
- 23:10Speaker 1: can get him into a mindset of a block, also,
- 23:15Speaker 1: you should be able to get him there, and that'll
- 23:17Speaker 1: be key. Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's an
- 23:19Speaker 1: undersized Guy's not Pete Mitchell who doesn't have the the
- 23:21Speaker 1: frame to be able to block. Perhaps he wasn't asked
- 23:24Speaker 1: to do it a whole lot. So we'll see. But
- 23:26Speaker 1: if you know anything about San Jose State, and I
- 23:27Speaker 1: know a little because I read about him, um, he
- 23:30Speaker 1: was their top receiver forget wide receivers or backside of
- 23:33Speaker 1: the backfield. He was the guy on offense, everything go,
- 23:36Speaker 1: So he probably wasn't asked to block very much. Well
- 23:39Speaker 1: he will now, all right, let's finish it up with linebacker.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Is a very interesting depth chart here. Telvin Smith, Miles,
- 23:46Speaker 1: Jack Leon Jacobs, Jake Grant, and new draft pick Quincy
- 23:50Speaker 1: Williams wraps up that depth chart. Well, what's interesting is
- 23:53Speaker 1: there are a bunch of other names. It just wasn't
- 23:54Speaker 1: room to put him on because the Jagglers went on
- 23:56Speaker 1: the linebacker buying spree. I couldn't fit here. Yeah, and
- 24:01Speaker 1: right now, my expectation as the top three guys are
- 24:04Speaker 1: your starters, with Jake Ryan having to earn his way
- 24:08Speaker 1: into it and UH force the situation where they put Miles.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Miles be on the field every down. It's just a
- 24:18Speaker 1: matter of whether he's inside or outside. If Jake Ryan
- 24:21Speaker 1: plays well enough two be on the field in base,
- 24:25Speaker 1: then you could possibly see Miles move out to that
- 24:28Speaker 1: strong side like you did in seventeen. I don't think
- 24:30Speaker 1: that's their plan, but Jake Ryan is a very good
- 24:32Speaker 1: player who could force his way into that mix. Um.
- 24:35Speaker 1: I think I think all the Bruja. However, Telvin right
- 24:38Speaker 1: now is off season stuff. I think he'll be the
- 24:41Speaker 1: starting week side backer. And by the way, I think
- 24:43Speaker 1: they'll be running a base for three. I keep seeing
- 24:45Speaker 1: rumors about well Dom Caper's is here and Josh Allen's here.
- 24:50Speaker 1: They're gonna go more three four. This is gonna be
- 24:52Speaker 1: a very similar defense to what it was last year.
- 24:54Speaker 1: They're not changing their scheme around here. They may run
- 24:58Speaker 1: some three four looks because of Allen's ability but they
- 25:01Speaker 1: were doing that last year with you, right, Almost every
- 25:03Speaker 1: team in the league has that humbard look now anyway,
- 25:05Speaker 1: it just depends on what person he has out there
- 25:08Speaker 1: of their schemes. That's all we got. Depth chart. Okay,
- 25:11Speaker 1: we'll take a break when we come back, ozone. When
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- 26:58Speaker 1: not miss a moment of the jagu Ours twenty fifth season.
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- 27:37Speaker 1: tell all right, let's go to Andy from Jacksonville. Why
- 27:44Speaker 1: don't the Jaguars signed Trey Boston. He's a solid safety
- 27:47Speaker 1: and should help out our safety room. I don't think
- 27:49Speaker 1: he would be that expensive. Well, this is the question.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I get a lot, and UM, it makes sense on paper,
- 27:56Speaker 1: it makes sense on the field. At this point, I
- 28:00Speaker 1: think they're a roster is basically what it's going to
- 28:04Speaker 1: be in terms of the overall depth start they like
- 28:06Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, Briana Harrison. They made a decision financially, experience wise, uh,
- 28:12Speaker 1: philosophically to go forward with that. Um. I don't think
- 28:16Speaker 1: you're going to see them try to upgrade the roster
- 28:20Speaker 1: with short term of free agent signings right now, because
- 28:24Speaker 1: I think they need to start playing with who they've
- 28:27Speaker 1: got in terms of the salary cap. Is Andy one
- 28:30Speaker 1: of those guys that wants you to capital letters. Pay
- 28:32Speaker 1: the man, pay the man, right because right the point is,
- 28:35Speaker 1: if you're going to pay a Nikon gok Way and
- 28:37Speaker 1: give him the mega contract that he wants, you can't
- 28:41Speaker 1: afford a lot of those guys. You've got to go
- 28:43Speaker 1: what's the kid for? I forget his name. The kid
- 28:44Speaker 1: from Lake City, Columbia. They played at Old Miss. There
- 28:47Speaker 1: was a story in the paper about him yesterday. You
- 28:49Speaker 1: gotta go get those guys, guys who have ability, who
- 28:52Speaker 1: are not perfect players, who you can plug in and play.
- 28:55Speaker 1: You have to develop, especially if you're gonna have a
- 28:57Speaker 1: roster with homegrown hide doll or guys. You gotta develop
- 29:02Speaker 1: both draft picks and undrafted picks. By the way, that's
- 29:06Speaker 1: what Jared Wilson is a guy that they like, who's
- 29:08Speaker 1: been around here a couple of years, who's contributed on
- 29:11Speaker 1: special teams and when he's been in nickel and dime situations.
- 29:14Speaker 1: If you can't, you can't just go find guys and
- 29:16Speaker 1: pay him, pay him, pay him, bay him. The checkbook
- 29:18Speaker 1: at that big right, at some point, that has to stop.
- 29:20Speaker 1: They've done in the last few years and you can't continue.
- 29:22Speaker 1: And you got it, and I'm the guy who always
- 29:24Speaker 1: harps on it. But you gotta have your eyes on
- 29:25Speaker 1: the future. And if you're gonna pay these guys, you
- 29:27Speaker 1: gotta have some lower paid guys that can not just
- 29:30Speaker 1: be on the roster taking a spot, but can play,
- 29:33Speaker 1: especially when you have injuries. But like you saw last year,
- 29:35Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Daniel from Jersey City, oh Man.
- 29:38Speaker 1: It has been mentioned that Jaguar's rookie quarterback Gardner Minshew
- 29:41Speaker 1: is a player of superior football intelligence. What does that
- 29:45Speaker 1: mean when comparing him to a quarterback with average football
- 29:48Speaker 1: and it means he processes quickly and primarily it means
- 29:53Speaker 1: when he goes in and he and he watches film,
- 29:55Speaker 1: he's given a game plan, you go out and you
- 29:58Speaker 1: see it quickly developed on the practice. But that's what
- 29:59Speaker 1: they like about him. Uh, Different quarterbacks have different levels
- 30:04Speaker 1: of that. He, according to people in this building, is
- 30:09Speaker 1: very very high on that end. What he lacks his
- 30:12Speaker 1: arms strength, He doesn't look like the prototype, but in
- 30:15Speaker 1: terms of football intelligence, he's off the chart. Well, it
- 30:17Speaker 1: means that he can overcome his weaknesses the arm strength
- 30:22Speaker 1: or the height and go to Washington State and in
- 30:24Speaker 1: less than six months time learn maybe the most complex
- 30:27Speaker 1: offense in college football, the air raid, in win eleven games.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Much harder to overcome that lack of physical In the NFL,
- 30:33Speaker 1: it's a different world and that's why the sixth round pick.
- 30:36Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up with Brian from Gainesville.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Are you saying that you think unique and got Way
- 30:41Speaker 1: may very well not be a Jaguar. Well, this is
- 30:44Speaker 1: one of many. No, I mean, I'm not saying that
- 30:48Speaker 1: he very well may not be. I'm saying it's gonna
- 30:51Speaker 1: get tricky, and I think it's gonna be a long topic.
- 30:55Speaker 1: My gut is it gets done at some point, but
- 30:58Speaker 1: it's not going to be I don't think it's going
- 31:00Speaker 1: to be a ceremony in the next week. I think
- 31:02Speaker 1: it gets done, but I will go on record as
- 31:04Speaker 1: saying there's a chance that he's not here. You just
- 31:08Speaker 1: those big contracts can't be handed out to every player.
- 31:12Speaker 1: They just can't, even guys like Unique and gok Way.
- 31:15Speaker 1: You've got to choose wisely. And there's a chance that
- 31:18Speaker 1: he won't because the Jaguars drafted Josh Allen and you've
- 31:21Speaker 1: got to have that long term perspective on your roster. Alright,
- 31:26Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with top tweets when we come
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- 33:07Speaker 1: A tweets, to tweets, tweets, top tweets. All right, let's
- 33:17Speaker 1: start top tweets. Was something that was all over social
- 33:20Speaker 1: media yesterday on Twitter, on Instagram live. It was Telvin
- 33:23Speaker 1: Smith going live on Instagram reading comments from fans. A
- 33:27Speaker 1: bunch of comments asked, hey, tell them where are you?
- 33:29Speaker 1: And he went on to say, I never left. I'm
- 33:32Speaker 1: never leaving Duval. You all saw trade rumors. Did you
- 33:35Speaker 1: see me going anywhere? Exactly? You all see the rumors
- 33:38Speaker 1: going somewhere, but you don't see me going anywhere. I
- 33:42Speaker 1: hope he's going to the gym. Yeah. I mean he's
- 33:45Speaker 1: a guy kind of like Anique. He's an undersized guy.
- 33:48Speaker 1: He wore down last year and then he had the
- 33:49Speaker 1: shoulder injury in London against Philadelphia, and I don't think
- 33:53Speaker 1: he played very well at all the second half of
- 33:54Speaker 1: the season. Wasn't the impact all pro kind of player
- 33:57Speaker 1: that he was in seventeen. So if he's not working
- 34:00Speaker 1: out here, I hope he's in a gym working out
- 34:03Speaker 1: with some badass trainer that's getting him ready to go.
- 34:06Speaker 1: He's never going to be you know, two pounds, but
- 34:10Speaker 1: i'd like to see him back up over two eighteen. Yeah,
- 34:13Speaker 1: I think he'll be ready physically, and I think he'll
- 34:18Speaker 1: I'll tell you why he started a week one, why
- 34:19Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere this year. He has thirteen million
- 34:22Speaker 1: dollars in dead money. They you know, you can make
- 34:25Speaker 1: a case, well, they could cut him after June one
- 34:27Speaker 1: or trade him. That's still a big hit that they're
- 34:29Speaker 1: going to take and they can't afford it. They need
- 34:31Speaker 1: him to be in game shape, ready to go because
- 34:36Speaker 1: they paid him. Hello, you got the check, Now you
- 34:39Speaker 1: got to perform. Yeah. The thing that worries me, and
- 34:41Speaker 1: this could just totally be from just social media, but
- 34:43Speaker 1: you see the guys that aren't here, like Jai len
- 34:45Speaker 1: uniqu they're always posting on social media, them working out,
- 34:47Speaker 1: them in the gym, tell them post everything on social media,
- 34:50Speaker 1: but it's not him working out. That's what fans. I'm
- 34:54Speaker 1: sure no issue with Jalen and I really don't have
- 34:55Speaker 1: an issue with guys working out on their own. It's volunteering, um.
- 34:59Speaker 1: As long as they're working out I think you'll show up.
- 35:02Speaker 1: I don't think any of that would be an issue,
- 35:03Speaker 1: to be honest, I hope he's will I hope. I
- 35:05Speaker 1: hope he has a for net kind of moment where
- 35:08Speaker 1: it becomes really important to him to prove people wrong
- 35:11Speaker 1: and to regain the stature that he had. I know
- 35:13Speaker 1: he was. I know he was unhappy that he was
- 35:15Speaker 1: not a Pro Bowl player again this year. I hope
- 35:18Speaker 1: that drives him to be the kind of guy he
- 35:19Speaker 1: wasn't seventeen. Definitely drama, that's for sure. Every day it
- 35:23Speaker 1: seems like more and more people are talking about it.
- 35:24Speaker 1: That's the game. All right. Let's wrap it up with
- 35:27Speaker 1: the Jaguars newest wide receiver, Chris Connelly getting married. It's
- 35:30Speaker 1: very well known that he's a game. It's into Star Wars,
- 35:33Speaker 1: he's into all the games. He got married on May
- 35:36Speaker 1: the fourth be with you, and Nick Foles was one
- 35:40Speaker 1: of his groomsmen. Well may they live happily. Ain't that nice? John?
- 35:45Speaker 1: What a way to wrap up the show with some
- 35:47Speaker 1: good news said at home, that's all I got, That's
- 35:50Speaker 1: all I got through. All Right, we'll have some stuff
- 35:54Speaker 1: for you on Friday. Run Rookie Munchamp and we'll be
- 35:57Speaker 1: back here next Tuesday with another fine edition with Jack Start,
- 36:00Speaker 1: have a great Tuesday and the rest of your weight folks.