Latest / Teach Me Something Hosted By DJ Prostyle & Penny Dellas / From Brooklyn to the Airwaves with Josh Martinez
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, what's up.
- 0:00Speaker 2: This is DJ pro Style and this is Pennydellas and
- 0:03Speaker 2: this is Teach Me Something, brought to you by Berkeley College.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to
- 0:10Speaker 3: Teach Me Something, presented by Berkeley College.
- 0:13Speaker 2: I am DJ Prostyles and I am Pennydellas. And it
- 0:15Speaker 2: feels like we've been here for twenty five years.
- 0:18Speaker 1: We have, yes, we have.
- 0:20Speaker 2: He've been recording all.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Day, but to this episode is going to be energetic, fun,
- 0:26Speaker 3: just like all of them.
- 0:26Speaker 2: By the way, I'm so excited about this guest because
- 0:29Speaker 2: this guest actually slid into my DMS and was like, oh, hey,
- 0:34Speaker 2: when are we gonna be on the pod? And I
- 0:36Speaker 2: was like, I'll tell you gonna be else. Tell your peoples,
- 0:40Speaker 2: hit up my people. And then they stop me in
- 0:42Speaker 2: the hall and they're like, the pod is on high demand.
- 0:44Speaker 2: When are we going to be on the pod? And
- 0:46Speaker 2: we need to happen.
- 0:47Speaker 4: That's a fact. Hello, it's true.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Welcome Josh Martinez from one hundred episode.
- 0:54Speaker 3: And Josh, by the way, didn't have to stop. He
- 0:55Speaker 3: could just walk like next door to oh he did.
- 0:57Speaker 2: After he's like, did you see my dam Yeah?
- 1:00Speaker 4: I sat in the hall where I was like, hey, dog,
- 1:01Speaker 4: what's hop the DMS or not? Don't ignore me.
- 1:04Speaker 1: At first I thought it was going somewhere else. I
- 1:06Speaker 1: was like, wow, we grab SIPs tea, SI. No, it's cool.
- 1:12Speaker 2: We're all fam and it's cool that everyone wants to
- 1:14Speaker 2: be on the pod.
- 1:15Speaker 1: And we want everybody on the pod.
- 1:18Speaker 5: More importantly, I also also think that, like the the
- 1:21Speaker 5: idea of this pod is kind of dope because it
- 1:24Speaker 5: gives everybody, even though like a lot of us may
- 1:26Speaker 5: be in the same like industry, everyone has all these
- 1:29Speaker 5: different unique stories, and I think it's so dope to
- 1:31Speaker 5: like talk about people stories, explore people stories, so that
- 1:34Speaker 5: as people come across the pod, they could realize like,
- 1:37Speaker 5: oh I can I can see myself more in her,
- 1:40Speaker 5: in that guest or damn that guest.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Kind of there's something for everyone, and it's teach me something.
- 1:45Speaker 2: This is the classroom, and whether you had a traditional
- 1:48Speaker 2: education path or not, we're still learning from each other.
- 1:51Speaker 2: So it's pretty cool. Absolutely, it's pretty cool, which brings
- 1:54Speaker 2: us to Josh. You had a non traditional education path
- 1:59Speaker 2: which led you into radio, So let's talk about how
- 2:03Speaker 2: that journey became.
- 2:05Speaker 4: So I wasn't always the best student.
- 2:07Speaker 5: My sister, who was a year older than me, she
- 2:09Speaker 5: was like ap scholars, like just her weighted average was
- 2:12Speaker 5: like over one hundred.
- 2:13Speaker 4: She was one of those students.
- 2:14Speaker 5: And I was always funny because teachers would always like
- 2:16Speaker 5: compare us, which I always hated that, and much love
- 2:18Speaker 5: to my sister because she would always like, stop my
- 2:21Speaker 5: mom when my mom would try to compare us, or
- 2:22Speaker 5: stop the teachers when they would try to compare us,
- 2:25Speaker 5: because that could give you like such a complai hole.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah when you're close in age.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Yeah. My brother and I a year and a half apart,
- 2:31Speaker 2: it was always it was like straight comparison between professors, parents, everything.
- 2:35Speaker 5: And so much love to my sister full up specifically
- 2:37Speaker 5: that in this moment. But now I went to the
- 2:39Speaker 5: College of Staten Island. I wanted to be a theater Majia.
- 2:42Speaker 5: And then midway through my third semester, I'll never forget it,
- 2:44Speaker 5: I was in the middle of a science class. Samantha
- 2:47Speaker 5: Gomez was sitting in front of me, and I was
- 2:48Speaker 5: like yeah, and I was just like why am I here?
- 2:51Speaker 5: Like why am I taking like math and Spanish when
- 2:54Speaker 5: I want to be in theater. So I literally like
- 2:56Speaker 5: told the professors I can excuse myself.
- 2:57Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, go ahead. I went straight to bursar
- 2:59Speaker 4: and like dropped out.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Mind you, I was getting paid to go to college
- 3:02Speaker 5: like the way you know, the FASTFA and student loans
- 3:06Speaker 5: were set up. Like, I ended up making money just
- 3:08Speaker 5: by and that wasn't enough to keep me there, so
- 3:10Speaker 5: I just dropped out. And then at that point it's like, Okay,
- 3:13Speaker 5: well I got to make the acting thing really happen.
- 3:16Speaker 5: And what I would do when I was younger, I
- 3:17Speaker 5: would always play video games on mute and listen to
- 3:20Speaker 5: the radio instead. So I grew up listening to like
- 3:23Speaker 5: La Mega Z one hundred and Hot ninety seven. Those
- 3:25Speaker 5: were like the three that I always would listen to.
- 3:29Speaker 5: And then I discovered sports radio, which was like, wait,
- 3:31Speaker 5: I could just like someone's talking sports twenty four to
- 3:33Speaker 5: seven and in middle school, that's like the coolest thing ever.
- 3:36Speaker 5: So then ESPN New York launched at the time, and
- 3:38Speaker 5: they had like this commercial all the time for the
- 3:41Speaker 5: Kinnecticus School of Broadcasting eight week program hasbro Kites, New Jersey,
- 3:45Speaker 5: and I was like, yeh, I'll just go there or whatever,
- 3:47Speaker 5: and it was allowed eleven four hundred and forty dollars
- 3:49Speaker 5: for eight weeks, and I was like, yeah, I'll go.
- 3:52Speaker 5: And I met this kick cause I lived on Staten
- 3:54Speaker 5: Island at the time. I met this kid who lived
- 3:56Speaker 5: like ten minutes from me, who was driving every day.
- 3:58Speaker 4: So instead of taking like a two and.
- 3:59Speaker 5: A half fower public transportation commute to Jersey where because
- 4:03Speaker 5: I got living on sant Island, you got to take
- 4:04Speaker 5: you know, the ferry to Manhattan, get on a bus.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Whatever to jerseys It's a lot.
- 4:09Speaker 5: And so I was like, yo, like, i'll you know,
- 4:12Speaker 5: I'll give you gas money, I'll give you toll money,
- 4:13Speaker 5: whatever you needs. Like now, I don't worry about it.
- 4:15Speaker 5: My dad pays for my car. So I was like,
- 4:16Speaker 5: all right, it must be nice, but I'll go at
- 4:18Speaker 5: you every day.
- 4:19Speaker 4: So I did that for eight weeks. I met Bartel.
- 4:22Speaker 5: He was an instructor there legend in the game works, ok, obviously,
- 4:27Speaker 5: and he just took a liking to me and kind
- 4:29Speaker 5: of assigned me to an internship. And that was eighteen
- 4:32Speaker 5: years ago, this summer when I did my internship here
- 4:35Speaker 5: at KTU and then like just been hustling.
- 4:38Speaker 3: And Bartel and then you guys crossing paths in the
- 4:42Speaker 3: hallways over here.
- 4:42Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's luckily with Bartel we've been in contact
- 4:46Speaker 5: all these years that like it wasn't that weird. I
- 4:50Speaker 5: will say, like the old building where we were at
- 4:52Speaker 5: down by Tribeca my first ad Z one hundred, I
- 4:54Speaker 5: like made it a point to go down to Bartel
- 4:56Speaker 5: and just like thank him again because he like literally
- 4:59Speaker 5: broke me into the industry, and I like just being
- 5:01Speaker 5: outside of that KTU studio got me emotional or whatever
- 5:04Speaker 5: because it was like, this is what I've always wanted.
- 5:06Speaker 4: I'm here now with a key card because that's all
- 5:08Speaker 4: I wanted.
- 5:09Speaker 5: Ye, all I wanted was get me in the building. Dude,
- 5:11Speaker 5: that's it because at the time, like I got an
- 5:13Speaker 5: internship to the dude's name was Jagger, former night host Jagger. Yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 5: he's a man, and he would I would have to
- 5:18Speaker 5: call him to come downstairs and get me. So sometimes
- 5:21Speaker 5: you know this, like you're in the middle of editing
- 5:23Speaker 5: a call show prepping, you might just forget Yeah, so
- 5:25Speaker 5: I'm just down to like up in there hopefully a
- 5:26Speaker 5: half hour, just like waiting in the lobby and you don't.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Want to, like but then you don't want to call
- 5:31Speaker 3: that person like.
- 5:35Speaker 5: So that happened a lot, and I would I would.
- 5:37Speaker 5: I was just hustling during that internship. I was supposed
- 5:39Speaker 5: to be there from like seven PM to eleven PM,
- 5:41Speaker 5: but I would stay till like three four five in
- 5:43Speaker 5: the morning. That's how I ended up meeting like members
- 5:45Speaker 5: of the Elvis Durant show, Cubby, because I would just
- 5:47Speaker 5: stay whoever was willing to let.
- 5:49Speaker 1: The coming show and you're still there from the night.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Whoever to me is like whoever is willing to let
- 5:53Speaker 5: me like kick it with them to just learn.
- 5:55Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to do.
- 5:56Speaker 5: I didn't have a day job like that, so it
- 5:58Speaker 5: was like, I say, you know, I get a random
- 6:00Speaker 5: call from my mom at three in the morning, were
- 6:01Speaker 5: you at because I'm not in bed. She'd always peak
- 6:03Speaker 5: her head make sure I'm alive radio, and I'm so
- 6:05Speaker 5: at the radio station.
- 6:06Speaker 4: I promise you know she I was.
- 6:07Speaker 5: I was always a good kid, so I wasn't like
- 6:09Speaker 5: she thinks I'm out with the tits or anything like that.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Straight up like where are you at magiestation? Okay, boy,
- 6:14Speaker 5: just knocking my door when you get here?
- 6:16Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cool.
- 6:17Speaker 5: So I did that, and then once the internship was done,
- 6:19Speaker 5: I got a street team gig with KTU, and then
- 6:22Speaker 5: Wendy Wild helped me with my first on air demo
- 6:26Speaker 5: tape or whatever your air checks.
- 6:28Speaker 4: Yeah, my first one.
- 6:29Speaker 5: She lived in an airport hangar at the time, she's
- 6:31Speaker 5: like a wild ass apartment. She lived in an airport
- 6:33Speaker 5: hanger on the island.
- 6:34Speaker 2: You know what tracks for Wendy. No, she did not
- 6:38Speaker 2: mention this.
- 6:38Speaker 1: We're going to bring us up. We have to bring
- 6:40Speaker 1: her back, by the way.
- 6:40Speaker 5: Yeah, she lived in an airport hanger. So we recorded
- 6:43Speaker 5: everything in two and a half hours, and I treated
- 6:45Speaker 5: her to California pizza kitchen. Like I remember this stuff
- 6:47Speaker 5: because this is like so vital to like my career.
- 6:50Speaker 4: And then she helped me.
- 6:51Speaker 5: Get a job at one oh six point one WBLI
- 6:53Speaker 5: on on Long Island. I did overnights there, but I
- 6:56Speaker 5: didn't have a car, so I took every form of
- 6:57Speaker 5: public transportation in New York. So it was three hours
- 7:00Speaker 5: one way, so six hours round trip. I'd leave the
- 7:03Speaker 5: crib at eight thirty. I tell the story to anyone
- 7:05Speaker 5: who's willing to listen, because this is all part of
- 7:07Speaker 5: like you want to be in radio, you want to
- 7:09Speaker 5: be in entertainment. This is the type of stuff that.
- 7:11Speaker 2: The sacrifice discipline.
- 7:12Speaker 4: Yeah, thousand percent.
- 7:13Speaker 5: Leaving the house at eight thirty, walking to the bus stop,
- 7:15Speaker 5: taking the bus to the ferry, the ferry to the
- 7:17Speaker 5: one train. That's why I got a tattooed on me.
- 7:20Speaker 5: Take the one train to Midtown, take the L double
- 7:23Speaker 5: R to Babylon, and then get in a cab. There
- 7:25Speaker 5: was a dude named Teddy who was just always hang
- 7:27Speaker 5: out there with his guitar, and he would just charge
- 7:28Speaker 5: me five dollars cash to just drive to the radio station,
- 7:31Speaker 5: which is like a mile and a half away, and
- 7:33Speaker 5: then I'd be on air from twelve am to five am,
- 7:35Speaker 5: and then I'd be home by like eight in the morning.
- 7:37Speaker 5: So I did that for about a year.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Insane.
- 7:39Speaker 3: That's what you call grind though, Yeah, that's what you
- 7:41Speaker 3: call it. See now, everyone's built for it. That's one
- 7:44Speaker 3: thing we always talk about the industry. Are everything could
- 7:46Speaker 3: sound like it's great and look amazing from the outside,
- 7:49Speaker 3: but are you really ready for the grind?
- 7:50Speaker 2: It's lifting the veil. Not everyone sees what really happens
- 7:53Speaker 2: behind the gliss glass, And.
- 7:54Speaker 5: People could sit there all the water like, oh, I'm ready,
- 7:56Speaker 5: I want this, I want this, And it's like there's
- 7:58Speaker 5: a difference between wanting it and needing it, just that
- 8:00Speaker 5: extra gear in your system, not to get into like basketball,
- 8:03Speaker 5: But I feel like that's the difference between MJ and Lebron.
- 8:05Speaker 5: Lebron's more talented than MJ ever was, but there was
- 8:08Speaker 5: another gear that Michael Jordan had that Lebron in my
- 8:10Speaker 5: in my opinion, just doesn't have. Yeah, which is why
- 8:12Speaker 5: I think Jordan's better than Lebron, because there's like that
- 8:15Speaker 5: championship mentality.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Insert the comments underneath right here, Yes, who do you
- 8:19Speaker 3: think the viral clips was better Lebron or Jordan?
- 8:23Speaker 5: But I feel but I feel like, and I'm sure
- 8:25Speaker 5: the two of you see this all the time with people,
- 8:27Speaker 5: you know, who are trying to come up whatever the
- 8:29Speaker 5: industry is that they want to be in, it's like
- 8:31Speaker 5: the moment things get tough and I've been let go
- 8:33Speaker 5: to I was let go twice within my first like
- 8:35Speaker 5: two years of radio due to like budget cuts or whatever,
- 8:38Speaker 5: and like that could have deterred me and I could
- 8:40Speaker 5: have got into health insurance with you know, the other
- 8:43Speaker 5: seventy percent of my family members or whatever working for
- 8:45Speaker 5: like health Plus at the time.
- 8:46Speaker 4: I don't even know.
- 8:47Speaker 5: What it is now, but it was like now, just
- 8:50Speaker 5: all right, back to the drawing board. We go and
- 8:52Speaker 5: send out emails and bro, I tell everybody the same thing. Now,
- 8:56Speaker 5: send emails, send dms. The worst that could happen is
- 8:59Speaker 5: you get ignored. We get ignored at least thirty times
- 9:02Speaker 5: a day. You walk into Starbucks. Not everyone's gonna look
- 9:05Speaker 5: at you. Not everyone's gonna say hi. What's the difference
- 9:07Speaker 5: between an email? And then all you gotta do is
- 9:09Speaker 5: follow up two weeks ater, following up on below. Then
- 9:11Speaker 5: he just become the annoying person. Yeah, And then they're
- 9:13Speaker 5: gonna write back.
- 9:13Speaker 2: You know, at some point someone's gonna respond, whether it's
- 9:17Speaker 2: a yes orday.
- 9:17Speaker 3: I know I've said this before on a few of
- 9:19Speaker 3: our episodes, but one thing I tell everybody is my
- 9:22Speaker 3: thing is the answer is always know.
- 9:23Speaker 1: If you don't ask yeah, m hm, the answer is
- 9:25Speaker 1: always gonna be no, yeah.
- 9:26Speaker 5: And I think, and I think that's something that a
- 9:28Speaker 5: lot of and I feel like so old saying this nowadays,
- 9:31Speaker 5: but a lot of like the younger generation doesn't understand,
- 9:34Speaker 5: like just because they say no, doesn't mean it's over.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you just go.
- 9:38Speaker 5: Back and follow up again, let them know, like I'll
- 9:41Speaker 5: never forget. When I was super young in the industry,
- 9:43Speaker 5: I sent an email randomly to EBRO because I was like,
- 9:46Speaker 5: he's a program director, was one of Hot ninety seven.
- 9:50Speaker 4: I'm just gonna send them something and just who cares.
- 9:52Speaker 5: And he within like two hours he wrote back, and
- 9:54Speaker 5: he basically said like I don't think you're ready, but
- 9:56Speaker 5: keep it coming. And I like that one little interaction,
- 9:59Speaker 5: which was like she's like fifteen years ago now energized you. Yeah,
- 10:04Speaker 5: because it's like, who is he to be riding back
- 10:06Speaker 5: to me? All right, cool, it's gonna keep me going.
- 10:08Speaker 5: And it's like those little things. You'd be surprised how
- 10:09Speaker 5: many people just need a semblance of like acknowledgment of like, yeah,
- 10:14Speaker 5: I got your email, we don't have anything available right now.
- 10:16Speaker 2: You're seeing people want to be seen, they want to
- 10:18Speaker 2: feel heard, and sometimes a no is not a no.
- 10:22Speaker 2: It's a no for right now. Maybe it's not meant
- 10:25Speaker 2: for you for right now, but keep doing it, keep
- 10:27Speaker 2: doing the hospital and come back.
- 10:29Speaker 5: So it's been I've been doing this, like I said,
- 10:31Speaker 5: eighteen years, been let go twice. My journey's taken me
- 10:34Speaker 5: to uh so I lived. I moved to Long Island
- 10:39Speaker 5: at one point like exit sixty three on the on
- 10:41Speaker 5: the lie, so I was deep out there, got let
- 10:44Speaker 5: go from that.
- 10:45Speaker 4: Job that I was at. So then I worked at
- 10:47Speaker 4: the Marriott. I was a bellman at a Marriotte.
- 10:50Speaker 5: So I went from like hanging out at Radio City
- 10:52Speaker 5: Music Hall with Jason Derulo when he opened up for
- 10:54Speaker 5: Lady Gaga to being a bellman and holding your bag
- 10:57Speaker 5: hoping you give me three dollars like that? What that
- 11:01Speaker 5: does to your brain from a like motivation standpoint, you
- 11:04Speaker 5: go one of two ways. You either just sink into
- 11:07Speaker 5: that depression of like you know it's over for me,
- 11:09Speaker 5: or you just say I get like a visceral reaction
- 11:13Speaker 5: to thinking of like the red bellman jacket that the
- 11:15Speaker 5: Marriouts used to have, like it is od like PTSD.
- 11:19Speaker 4: Dog, like it is bad. How much I despise myself
- 11:21Speaker 4: at the time.
- 11:22Speaker 5: Yeah, but then I just started That's when I just
- 11:24Speaker 5: started sending emails to random people.
- 11:26Speaker 4: And then I got a job in west Chester to
- 11:27Speaker 4: do weekends.
- 11:28Speaker 5: So I was driving two hours from Eastern Long Island
- 11:31Speaker 5: to west Chester and then that helped me get my
- 11:35Speaker 5: foot back into radio to get me a gig iHeart
- 11:39Speaker 5: and de Moine and that was November twenty twelve, and
- 11:41Speaker 5: I've just been with iHeart ever since, through all these
- 11:43Speaker 5: different cities that I've worked in stuff.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Yeah cause remember it. So I remember.
- 11:46Speaker 3: I've seen your posts where like you're calling your family
- 11:48Speaker 3: members to tell them and you're like, I'm coming back,
- 11:50Speaker 3: you know, home basically.
- 11:51Speaker 4: Because everybody knew like that. I to this day, it's awesome.
- 11:54Speaker 5: My my first iPhone, I worked at the Marriout so
- 11:57Speaker 5: this might have been like twenty eleven and like that.
- 12:00Speaker 5: This was like the first phone that you could make
- 12:01Speaker 5: a note on your alarms. So I was like, all right,
- 12:04Speaker 5: I have two alarms. To this day it says one
- 12:06Speaker 5: says I will be at Z one hundred. The other
- 12:08Speaker 5: one says I will be at WWA in ww Those
- 12:10Speaker 5: are the two alarms I still have. I accomplished one,
- 12:12Speaker 5: still working on the other one because that's like my
- 12:15Speaker 5: real passion. Like Z one hundred was like the adult dream,
- 12:18Speaker 5: WW is like the kid who grew up on welfare
- 12:21Speaker 5: obsessed with wrestling, Like ADHD took over his life unless
- 12:25Speaker 5: wrestling was involved. And then so for that kid, that's
- 12:29Speaker 5: the dream. But everybody knew, like I'm going to des Moines, Iowa,
- 12:33Speaker 5: Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Dayton, Ohio. I'm going to these obscure
- 12:36Speaker 5: cities that nobody even knows about or will go to.
- 12:40Speaker 4: But I'm going for a reason.
- 12:41Speaker 5: Everything was a chess move to get to Z one
- 12:43Speaker 5: hundred or at least increase the odds to get that opportunity,
- 12:46Speaker 5: and that worked.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Yeah, and building your air checks and people in pds
- 12:50Speaker 3: and things, they look for that kind of stuff.
- 12:51Speaker 4: You hope, you hope that.
- 12:53Speaker 1: That people when the opportunity opens, right.
- 12:56Speaker 4: And it took me.
- 12:57Speaker 5: It took me thirteen years to get my audition at
- 12:59Speaker 5: Z one hundred, you know, And I say that's people
- 13:01Speaker 5: all the time, like it took me thirteen years just
- 13:04Speaker 5: to get a chance to be here. Right. So to me,
- 13:07Speaker 5: it's like when I was driving into that audition, I
- 13:10Speaker 5: have never been more like laser focused and intent in
- 13:13Speaker 5: my life.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Maybe when my daughter was born.
- 13:16Speaker 5: But that that's just like a whole other level of
- 13:18Speaker 5: like you good everything okay, you know, because everybody's focused
- 13:21Speaker 5: on the baby. No one's really focused on like the
- 13:23Speaker 5: mom So I was just like honed in on, you know, her,
- 13:26Speaker 5: making sure she was okay. But literally the intensity I had,
- 13:30Speaker 5: and I was just playing one like video over and over.
- 13:33Speaker 5: It was a wrestling video to like keep me in
- 13:35Speaker 5: the mood, keep me zoned in. I killed that audition.
- 13:37Speaker 5: I don't care what anyone says, like, bro, if I
- 13:40Speaker 5: if I didn't get the job at Z one hundred,
- 13:42Speaker 5: as wild as as it sounds, I would have been
- 13:44Speaker 5: okay because I know that, Like I killed it.
- 13:47Speaker 4: It wasn't at that point. If you don't get it,
- 13:49Speaker 4: it's not a talent.
- 13:50Speaker 5: It could be a fit thing, it could be it
- 13:52Speaker 5: could even be a gender thing, like actually we wanted
- 13:54Speaker 5: a female, all right, cool, Yeah, at that point, you
- 13:56Speaker 5: just there's no chance of me right. So but yeah,
- 13:58Speaker 5: I had the audition late February. It was from twelve
- 14:01Speaker 5: am to six am on a Sunday technically Saturday night,
- 14:04Speaker 5: Sunday morning, and it was I still remember so many
- 14:08Speaker 5: things of that, like so vividly because it was like
- 14:11Speaker 5: that's what I wanted to do.
- 14:12Speaker 4: That was the dream.
- 14:13Speaker 1: I'm in here now the first time about to hit
- 14:15Speaker 1: that on. Yeah, the microphone right and.
- 14:17Speaker 5: During the top of the hour into you know, thirty
- 14:19Speaker 5: four to thirty five by Ariana Grandee, Like I still
- 14:21Speaker 5: remember all these like little things and I had I
- 14:24Speaker 5: had like five or six different family members and friends
- 14:27Speaker 5: stay up and listen the whole time. And literally, like
- 14:30Speaker 5: when I did my like sign off, the I got
- 14:32Speaker 5: like four or five different texts, Yo, you killed it,
- 14:35Speaker 5: love you.
- 14:36Speaker 4: And I'm like two cousins showed up downstairs. They're like,
- 14:38Speaker 4: oh where you are?
- 14:39Speaker 5: Yo?
- 14:39Speaker 4: Were outside? I'm like what?
- 14:41Speaker 5: And then so I got you know, sandwiches on the
- 14:43Speaker 5: corner of Canal Street and West Broadway and ate it
- 14:46Speaker 5: in the car and then we all went our separate ways.
- 14:48Speaker 5: But like that love and support dude, Like and you
- 14:50Speaker 5: guys know this first hand. Yeah, three four people just
- 14:53Speaker 5: get behind you, forget about it.
- 14:55Speaker 4: You can think, you think you could do anything at
- 14:56Speaker 4: that point.
- 14:57Speaker 3: So having a good support system is really porn for
- 15:00Speaker 3: anything you're trying to do in life.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Man.
- 15:04Speaker 2: My mom watches this podcast every time it's released. She'll
- 15:08Speaker 2: like call me be like, you guys changed it used
- 15:10Speaker 2: to be because we used to go out on Sundays
- 15:11Speaker 2: now it's Wednesdays. She's like now my whole Sunday is
- 15:15Speaker 2: has shifted. I'm like, you'll survive. It's Wednesdays and.
- 15:18Speaker 5: Then shout out, shout out to your mom.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Yeah, mom may be watching every episode.
- 15:24Speaker 4: So my mom listens to me a lot too. She'll
- 15:27Speaker 4: call me, Pappy, you sick, like, well.
- 15:29Speaker 1: She could tell your voice she sounds either.
- 15:31Speaker 4: That or I'm not on air.
- 15:32Speaker 5: Oh if I'm not, like, she might tune in like
- 15:34Speaker 5: seven o'clock or whatever and like I was.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Because you missed.
- 15:38Speaker 3: You normally talk right after the top of the alue
- 15:40Speaker 3: literally be like, I know you're always on the radio
- 15:42Speaker 3: six out three.
- 15:42Speaker 5: I'm like, no, but I'll let it slide, like if
- 15:45Speaker 5: you think it's six oh three, I should never be
- 15:46Speaker 5: three minutes late on the top of the hour. But okay, yeah, no,
- 15:50Speaker 5: She'll she'll like text me, Pappy, okay, you're not on
- 15:52Speaker 5: like feeling for Crystal earlier.
- 15:54Speaker 4: Well you should have told me, Like, I'm sorry, lady,
- 15:56Speaker 4: I just slipped my mind. Sorry, but my mom. You
- 15:58Speaker 4: know she's great though, dude.
- 15:59Speaker 2: She worked.
- 16:00Speaker 5: She so she works from home health insurance or whatever
- 16:03Speaker 5: customer service, so she'll have the radio on.
- 16:05Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll come home she'll have like lamega on. I'm like, hey,
- 16:08Speaker 4: what is this?
- 16:09Speaker 5: She'll laugh or whatever, but it's the mix shows. Man,
- 16:11Speaker 5: Damn DJ's were getting her.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Don Alex holds it down telling you, I'm telling you,
- 16:17Speaker 2: but that's so cool.
- 16:18Speaker 5: The ending always dude, always Joe like randomly will tell me,
- 16:24Speaker 5: like what, I'm proud she is, Bro, I've gotten d MS.
- 16:28Speaker 4: I'm not kidding, I've gotten DMS.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Yo.
- 16:29Speaker 5: Your mom is my customer service agent for for you know,
- 16:33Speaker 5: health insurance or whatever.
- 16:34Speaker 4: She just talked a lot about you. Just wanted to say,
- 16:36Speaker 4: what's up. Your mom's amazing, and I'm like.
- 16:37Speaker 3: My mom My mom will tell my story to anybody
- 16:41Speaker 3: she meets, even if you don't ask.
- 16:43Speaker 2: I will attest to that. I get DMS mom. Yeah,
- 16:47Speaker 2: your mom is sending.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Me blessing social media of the thing three in the morning.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Send you the blessing, Yeah, three in the morning. And
- 16:54Speaker 2: then my mom yeah seven. And I'm like, do you
- 16:56Speaker 2: guys have a competition because I see the comments, like
- 16:58Speaker 2: on all the episodes. It's funny.
- 17:00Speaker 4: I love it.
- 17:00Speaker 1: That's awesome. Man, that's awesome.
- 17:02Speaker 2: But wasn't. If it weren't for our mothers, we wouldn't
- 17:04Speaker 2: be here. We wouldn't exist a thousand percent.
- 17:06Speaker 5: And I think, and I think that's where I got
- 17:07Speaker 5: to drive from right like my mom, you know, first
- 17:11Speaker 5: ten and I'll get personal.
- 17:13Speaker 4: I have no shame. If it's too much for the pod,
- 17:14Speaker 4: let me know.
- 17:15Speaker 5: But like growing up, my dad was an abuser, drug addict,
- 17:18Speaker 5: all that type of stuff, like physically would abuse my
- 17:20Speaker 5: mom in front of us. And she always kind of like,
- 17:24Speaker 5: for lack of a better term, like thugged it out,
- 17:25Speaker 5: just kept going working three jobs. She didn't even have
- 17:28Speaker 5: her gd doesn't even have her GTD, so she was
- 17:30Speaker 5: working like all these odd jobs or whatever just to
- 17:32Speaker 5: make money. There were times where she would hide money
- 17:35Speaker 5: in like my draw because she was afraid that Poppy
- 17:38Speaker 5: would take it and run off and get drugs, did
- 17:40Speaker 5: or whatever. There was one time, remember I opened the
- 17:42Speaker 5: drawer there was like one hundred dollar bill in there,
- 17:43Speaker 5: and I got so hyped, thing like the tooth ferry
- 17:45Speaker 5: left it there.
- 17:45Speaker 4: She was like, shut up, don't say nothing, and I
- 17:47Speaker 4: was mad tight.
- 17:47Speaker 5: I was like I was thinking of like what I
- 17:49Speaker 5: was gonna buy with that money at Alan Houston.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Jersey or whatever.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Yeah, but no, but she she finally left my dad
- 17:56Speaker 5: around my tenth birthday, and then we went to Staten Island,
- 18:01Speaker 5: lived in my cousin's basement for a few months, and
- 18:03Speaker 5: then my cousins moved out, so we took over the
- 18:05Speaker 5: home and you know, single mom just just hustling and
- 18:10Speaker 5: working and got into the company that she's at now
- 18:13Speaker 5: because my uncle was like a director there, helped her get.
- 18:15Speaker 4: A job and just kind of.
- 18:19Speaker 5: That Me and my sister like we're kind of fending
- 18:22Speaker 5: for ourselves for the most part, you know what I'm saying,
- 18:24Speaker 5: being ten, eleven, twelve years old, cooking for ourselves, figuring
- 18:27Speaker 5: things out on our own, which helped us out now
- 18:29Speaker 5: because we're a super independent almost two independent sometimes because
- 18:32Speaker 5: then you get to that point where you don't ask
- 18:33Speaker 5: anybody for help. Yeah, Like that's really toxic when you
- 18:37Speaker 5: get to like the mental health issues or whatever.
- 18:40Speaker 1: That's probably been me my whole life.
- 18:41Speaker 5: Yeah, so because you just like you're show used to
- 18:44Speaker 5: doing everything on your own or thinking like everyone's got
- 18:47Speaker 5: their own issues. I'm not going to burden you with
- 18:48Speaker 5: my problem, so I'll just suck it up and I'll
- 18:50Speaker 5: deal with it.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Definitely.
- 18:52Speaker 1: That's definitely me.
- 18:53Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'll never forget I came home for Christmas.
- 18:56Speaker 5: This was like twenty nineteen maybe, and I told my
- 19:00Speaker 5: we were right by a Lutheran hospital at a red light,
- 19:03Speaker 5: and I told her.
- 19:04Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm going to start therapy after
- 19:06Speaker 4: the new year. Like I'm really excited.
- 19:07Speaker 5: She was like why, And I remember just being like mad,
- 19:10Speaker 5: slow motion looking at her, like, lady, you were there
- 19:12Speaker 5: for ninety percent of my childhood trauma, Like what.
- 19:15Speaker 4: Do you mean why?
- 19:16Speaker 5: The fact that that me and my two older siblings
- 19:19Speaker 5: are like, you know, positive members to society based on
- 19:23Speaker 5: the statistics that I'm constantly looking up, like there's no
- 19:27Speaker 5: reason why the three of us should be as successful
- 19:29Speaker 5: as we are right now, you know what I'm saying.
- 19:31Speaker 5: My brother's a principal out in California. He got his PhD.
- 19:33Speaker 5: He got a double master's degree from Columbia University. My
- 19:36Speaker 5: sister got her master's from Hunt. She works, she's a
- 19:38Speaker 5: high ranking official for like Goodwill, so she does the
- 19:41Speaker 5: nonprofit stuff. She has her own nonprofit because of my
- 19:44Speaker 5: six year old nephew, who's nonverbal autistic changed her life
- 19:48Speaker 5: and so she created this nonprofit. And then I'm just
- 19:50Speaker 5: here like I ain't doing nothing in the grand scheme
- 19:53Speaker 5: of like life compared to like the impact that they're making.
- 19:55Speaker 4: So I'm like, dude, I'm blessed. I don't have student loans,
- 19:58Speaker 4: but you are making impact. It's hard to see it though, Yeah,
- 20:02Speaker 4: I mean.
- 20:02Speaker 2: You don't know what people are going through. You will
- 20:04Speaker 2: turn on and hear a friendly voice and maybe you
- 20:07Speaker 2: change the decision, and it's maybe things that you won't
- 20:11Speaker 2: know right there.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Go places and you're talking to somebody and then they say, hey,
- 20:16Speaker 3: are you this person?
- 20:16Speaker 5: Because yeah, either that or they'll figure it out by
- 20:19Speaker 5: the name or in conversation. It just comes up and
- 20:21Speaker 5: then like seeing their reaction, Like actually, I was hosting
- 20:24Speaker 5: a brunch on Staten Island this past Sunday, and I
- 20:26Speaker 5: just anytime I am see and I actually like, I
- 20:31Speaker 5: hope you could appreciate this. It's never about me. It's
- 20:34Speaker 5: always about the music and the DJ. I will say
- 20:36Speaker 5: the DJ's name twenty times before I say my name
- 20:38Speaker 5: because it ain't about me.
- 20:39Speaker 4: It ain't about me talking over lyrics. I'm not going
- 20:41Speaker 4: to talk over lyrics.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Just if you could give me twenty seconds to talk
- 20:44Speaker 5: real quick, I'll talk ten seconds.
- 20:45Speaker 4: Cool.
- 20:46Speaker 5: If not, I would just hold the mic and shut
- 20:47Speaker 5: up because ain't nobody there to hear me. It's all
- 20:49Speaker 5: about you, It's all about the lyrics. It's all about
- 20:51Speaker 5: feeling good. So I will hype you up, but I'm
- 20:54Speaker 5: not stopping the music. I'm not talking over lyrics. And
- 20:56Speaker 5: if I do, my first thought is where are we
- 20:58Speaker 5: talk about the location the next party?
- 21:00Speaker 1: Maybe?
- 21:01Speaker 5: And then just say the DJ's name so many times
- 21:04Speaker 5: so I said my name and it was like a
- 21:06Speaker 5: long beat and I knew that. So I was like,
- 21:08Speaker 5: you know, I said my name from Z one hundred,
- 21:10Speaker 5: and there was like three different women like had an
- 21:12Speaker 5: immediate reaction to me just saying.
- 21:14Speaker 4: My name and being on Z one hundred, And I
- 21:16Speaker 4: was like, oh, it's got a dope. That makes me
- 21:18Speaker 4: feel good. You know what I'm saying.
- 21:21Speaker 5: Yeah, because I say, listen, I say all the time
- 21:23Speaker 5: I play for the Yankees. That's what I tell people.
- 21:25Speaker 5: Everybody knows the Yankees. Everybody knows Z one hundred. You
- 21:28Speaker 5: don't know every Yankee player. You know Aaron Judge, you
- 21:32Speaker 5: know Elvis Durant. You know what I'm saying, Like, you
- 21:34Speaker 5: know the superstars.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Those are the superstars. You may not know every player.
- 21:38Speaker 5: But if you watch the Yankees enough, you're gonna know
- 21:40Speaker 5: that random relief pitcher.
- 21:43Speaker 4: That's how I fit into the equation. I feel like,
- 21:46Speaker 4: so again, if you're a.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Diehard Z one hundred fan, you might know me, but
- 21:48Speaker 5: you know my team, and that to me is kind
- 21:50Speaker 5: of more important than anything else.
- 21:52Speaker 4: Really.
- 21:53Speaker 5: To me at least, it's like support the team. That's it,
- 21:55Speaker 5: That's all that matters. That's why I like the KTU stuff.
- 21:57Speaker 5: You guys have your thirtieth anniversary party going on. I
- 21:59Speaker 5: posted about yesterday on my Instagram story because I was like,
- 22:02Speaker 5: this is dope you posted when you guys announced it.
- 22:04Speaker 5: I'm like, yoh, it's all one big family.
- 22:05Speaker 3: I've been seeing more and more of that lately in
- 22:07Speaker 3: the building, which is dope, which is like the interact,
- 22:09Speaker 3: like that, everyone helping each other out to make it.
- 22:12Speaker 2: I see that promo everywhere. Len has been posting, well,
- 22:15Speaker 2: it's everywhere.
- 22:16Speaker 5: And I think I think a large part of that
- 22:18Speaker 5: is once you get into like New York City Radio,
- 22:22Speaker 5: like you've made it, you know what I'm saying. So
- 22:24Speaker 5: it's like you're comfortable in your position, You're comfortable where
- 22:26Speaker 5: you are, so there's there's still competition healthy competition, right always,
- 22:30Speaker 5: But it's no, there's not like backstabbing and undercutting the
- 22:34Speaker 5: way it is maybe in other markets because they want
- 22:36Speaker 5: to get to a New York City yeah yeah, yeah.
- 22:38Speaker 5: So here it's like everyone's just chilling, comfortable where they
- 22:40Speaker 5: are showing love to each other. And honestly, like I
- 22:42Speaker 5: was just saying this less than a month ago, I
- 22:44Speaker 5: was talking to a group of college students and they
- 22:47Speaker 5: were like, have you like, who's the worst person you've
- 22:49Speaker 5: ever met in this industry? And I was like, Honestly,
- 22:51Speaker 5: the people I've always had issues with we're in smaller markets. Yeah,
- 22:55Speaker 5: I haven't had a single problem with anybody here in
- 22:57Speaker 5: this market. I haven't felt like disrespect, I haven't felt
- 23:00Speaker 5: like someone talk to me sideways. I haven't felt like
- 23:03Speaker 5: just like a pushed upon or anything like that. Like
- 23:05Speaker 5: everyone shows everyone love around here, super dope. People don't
- 23:08Speaker 5: even know who I am because of like scheduling. Obviously,
- 23:10Speaker 5: if I'm on at six o'clock at night, I'm not
- 23:12Speaker 5: going to see anyone from the breakfast club or anyone
- 23:15Speaker 5: like Cubby or whatever in the morning on light FM.
- 23:17Speaker 5: But like you see each other in the hallway, you
- 23:19Speaker 5: say what's up you talk. Social media makes it a
- 23:20Speaker 5: little easier part of the same family.
- 23:23Speaker 2: So yeah, we've said that a couple of times here
- 23:25Speaker 2: in the pod. The camaraderie that everyone has here, it's beautiful.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Everyone's so open minded and willing and like for me
- 23:31Speaker 2: coming in and it's been so nice because everyone's warm
- 23:34Speaker 2: and welcoming and you know, let me show you this,
- 23:37Speaker 2: how to do this, and it's been really cool. And
- 23:40Speaker 2: how you guys are.
- 23:40Speaker 5: Yeah, and the thing is too, like we're all busy right,
- 23:43Speaker 5: Like right now is a good example. Right, You're we're
- 23:45Speaker 5: in the middle of a work day. We're all doing
- 23:47Speaker 5: this and then we got to go. We're still working
- 23:49Speaker 5: after that. Yeah, there are still things going on after same, right,
- 23:55Speaker 5: Like you have an ending to the day.
- 23:58Speaker 3: I have to sleep at some point because this right,
- 24:00Speaker 3: and think I always thank God at all times about
- 24:03Speaker 3: the day. But there's no really set schedule for this
- 24:07Speaker 3: for like when people always ask me, like what are
- 24:09Speaker 3: your hours like, because like what makes me think about
- 24:12Speaker 3: this is I'm always with my kids at their sports,
- 24:16Speaker 3: you know, and I feel bad that I can be
- 24:17Speaker 3: that coach because everyone's like you should be coach because
- 24:20Speaker 3: I'm always helping out, but I can't commit to it.
- 24:22Speaker 3: I would love to write to be able to commit
- 24:25Speaker 3: to be like I would one hundred do it for
- 24:27Speaker 3: my kids and be part of the coaching staff and
- 24:28Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. But I'm like, you gotta
- 24:30Speaker 3: understand that the schedule we have outside of our shift
- 24:34Speaker 3: is NonStop, especially with me on the programming side. It
- 24:37Speaker 3: could be a phone call at eleven PM, it could
- 24:39Speaker 3: be one o'clock, it could be somebody somebody dropping an
- 24:42Speaker 3: album at midnight, everyone's in an email talking about a
- 24:45Speaker 3: song or something or prepping for the next day and
- 24:47Speaker 3: make sure this is right for this show or bubblah
- 24:48Speaker 3: or you for your own show or it.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Just so the music industry is like that.
- 24:53Speaker 3: I'm sure Josh understands that, Like there, we have our
- 24:55Speaker 3: schedule and then we have an uh ye but even
- 24:59Speaker 3: but he even like CLO but never clock out.
- 25:02Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I obviously I do night so I'm on
- 25:04Speaker 5: every weeknight six to ten on Z one hundred. But
- 25:05Speaker 5: I'm also on four hours a night on one of
- 25:08Speaker 5: three five Kiss FM in Chicago, so I pre record
- 25:11Speaker 5: that a couple hours in advance. Oh and by the way,
- 25:13Speaker 5: on the weekends, I'm on in Tucson, Arizona, Cincinnati, Ohio,
- 25:16Speaker 5: so I got to pre record those. But I also
- 25:18Speaker 5: take a lot of pride in my pre recorded stuff,
- 25:20Speaker 5: where like, if you listen, you think it's happening. I'm
- 25:22Speaker 5: talking about Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Reds, and Cincinnati, I'm talking
- 25:26Speaker 5: about the Arizona Wildcats and Tucson. I'm not one of
- 25:28Speaker 5: these people that's just gonna tell you the name of
- 25:30Speaker 5: the song, the radio station and keep moving forward.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Hey that was this, this is this.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Yeah, I take a lot of pride in my show,
- 25:35Speaker 5: in my show stuff, but that takes that takes work, right.
- 25:39Speaker 4: Like I just saw someone in the Hoobi. They're like, oh,
- 25:40Speaker 4: you're here early, and I'm like, not really two o'clock.
- 25:43Speaker 4: I usually get here three or four maybe.
- 25:45Speaker 5: Even though I'm not on untill six, because there's show
- 25:47Speaker 5: prep involved, Chicago's involved. Like, so you hear me on
- 25:50Speaker 5: the radio four hours a day. I love when people
- 25:52Speaker 5: are like, oh, it must be nice to work four
- 25:53Speaker 5: hours a day. I'm always like, ah, bro, especially especially
- 25:57Speaker 5: if and I know you live far, especially if you
- 25:59Speaker 5: take muting into your workday account.
- 26:01Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you take that into account. It isn't even
- 26:04Speaker 4: longer day.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well that goes back to what I said,
- 26:07Speaker 3: there really is no hours. It could be it could
- 26:10Speaker 3: be a quick day, or it could be like an
- 26:12Speaker 3: extremely long day.
- 26:13Speaker 4: I just got a call the other day that you're
- 26:15Speaker 4: always working, Penny.
- 26:16Speaker 2: I'm always working. I have like five jobs, but I'm
- 26:18Speaker 2: always always working. No, And then, you know, the other night,
- 26:21Speaker 2: I got a call at twelve thirty at night, m M.
- 26:23Speaker 2: There was something going on in Berkeley and a flag
- 26:28Speaker 2: came up with media, so we had to automatically go
- 26:30Speaker 2: into you know, crisis management, wasn't us. We get a
- 26:33Speaker 2: lot of Berkeley, you see stuff happening, and then we
- 26:36Speaker 2: get tagged in media, so then we have to reach
- 26:39Speaker 2: out to those outlets and say, you know, so it's
- 26:41Speaker 2: a lot of things that happen. Marketing does not sleep,
- 26:43Speaker 2: and you can't, No, honestly, you really can't.
- 26:45Speaker 5: You know you when you do, that's when the big
- 26:48Speaker 5: story breaks and then you're asked out and then you
- 26:51Speaker 5: can't recover in time.
- 26:52Speaker 1: I get it.
- 26:53Speaker 2: No pro keeps me busy, you know. With this podcast,
- 26:55Speaker 2: I'm editing it like one in the morning.
- 26:58Speaker 5: I'm the most laid back dude let me tell you son,
- 27:01Speaker 5: I was okay so in that dire tribe. When I
- 27:04Speaker 5: was telling those people that there's no issues here, I
- 27:06Speaker 5: was also talking about.
- 27:07Speaker 4: How like there isn't there isn't egos either.
- 27:10Speaker 5: We all have egos because I think ego takes you
- 27:12Speaker 5: to a certain level of success because you know, if
- 27:14Speaker 5: you think you're the best, you gotta perform at that
- 27:16Speaker 5: pass and that that mentality keeps you focused. But I
- 27:19Speaker 5: was saying, like there's no over the top egos where
- 27:21Speaker 5: people are like will ignore you or not want to
- 27:23Speaker 5: talk to you or anything like that. Like first time
- 27:25Speaker 5: I met Angie Martinez, I was like thea our boss boss.
- 27:29Speaker 5: She was like, oh, come meet Angie and I was like, naa, no, chill, chill,
- 27:32Speaker 5: She's on air, like I don't want to. I felt
- 27:34Speaker 5: like a fangirl interrupting a celebrity in that moment. Like
- 27:37Speaker 5: it still blows me away that I'm colleagues with Angie Martinez,
- 27:42Speaker 5: DJ Clue, DJ pro Style, Like these are people that
- 27:44Speaker 5: I listened to at various points of my life, not
- 27:47Speaker 5: even like my career, to study certain things like my life,
- 27:50Speaker 5: like I had the professional mixtape with DJ Clue to
- 27:54Speaker 5: this day. I think Fantastic four is one of the
- 27:56Speaker 5: greatest hip hop songs of all time. I told him
- 27:58Speaker 5: that one time and he looked at me like that
- 28:00Speaker 5: and heads because it's like this one hundred guy is
- 28:03Speaker 5: talking about a song with cannabis. This is weird, but
- 28:07Speaker 5: like clues driven me home to Staten Island before and
- 28:09Speaker 5: it's like I'm sitting in his car and I was
- 28:11Speaker 5: just like, so then hip hop at the anniversary, man,
- 28:15Speaker 5: and You're like, I'm.
- 28:15Speaker 3: Living here, by the way, Yeah, I can get cool
- 28:19Speaker 3: on the podcastory.
- 28:20Speaker 4: I can't imagine the stories.
- 28:21Speaker 1: That's what that's what we want to get.
- 28:23Speaker 2: So yeah, listen. I used to watch prox Apart okay,
- 28:29Speaker 2: and now I can sit with him and some random
- 28:31Speaker 2: stuff and talk about the kids and it's it's cool.
- 28:35Speaker 2: They say like, don't meet you know the people that
- 28:38Speaker 2: you are whenever do it?
- 28:39Speaker 4: Bro cool. Yeah, I'll never forget. We were still in
- 28:42Speaker 4: the old building.
- 28:43Speaker 5: So I was a couple of months in and I
- 28:45Speaker 5: got a random phone number texting me or whatever, and
- 28:47Speaker 5: I'm like, who is this? And I opened it up
- 28:49Speaker 5: and it's like, Hey, it's Elvis. You sound amazing. We
- 28:52Speaker 5: are so lucky to have you dog. I screenshot of
- 28:55Speaker 5: that thing sentence everybody I knew, Like and Elvis Durant
- 28:59Speaker 5: is a colleague. Every time he sees me, gives me
- 29:01Speaker 5: the biggest hug, asks me about my daughter, calls me
- 29:04Speaker 5: big daddy like look, makes eye contact with me when
- 29:07Speaker 5: he's talking. It's not like hey, what I meant? And
- 29:09Speaker 5: like goes, no, It's all about me in that moment,
- 29:12Speaker 5: and I'm like, what I have that? I still have
- 29:15Speaker 5: it saved in my phone out photo because like, again
- 29:19Speaker 5: these people I don't. This is another issue, but like
- 29:22Speaker 5: that imposter syndrome is so serious.
- 29:24Speaker 4: It is so serious, and I have it a lot.
- 29:27Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm constantly like, oh no, no, no,
- 29:31Speaker 4: I'm good. I'll let so and so do it.
- 29:32Speaker 5: And it's like no, like I need to my My
- 29:35Speaker 5: therapist tells me a lot like talk my ish like
- 29:40Speaker 5: a good example of that.
- 29:41Speaker 4: As ratings, like you know this first hand, ratings could
- 29:43Speaker 4: be fickle as hell.
- 29:44Speaker 5: One month you're number one, the next month you're eight,
- 29:46Speaker 5: the next month you're four, the next month you're one.
- 29:48Speaker 5: So then when you brag about being number one, are
- 29:50Speaker 5: you gonna talk about being number eight next month?
- 29:52Speaker 4: Are you going to talk about number four?
- 29:55Speaker 5: And in the radio industry we know that, but then
- 29:58Speaker 5: somebody who may not be in the radio industry, it'll
- 30:00Speaker 5: be like, damn, you're number one. That's dope, which opens
- 30:02Speaker 5: up doors for like multimedia, opens up doors for like
- 30:06Speaker 5: other endorsement opportunities because people outside of the radio don't
- 30:09Speaker 5: realize how fickle the Nielsen.
- 30:10Speaker 3: You never know, like I've never been the type of
- 30:13Speaker 3: post stuff right, but at the same time, but I'm
- 30:15Speaker 3: a little different, like I I'm.
- 30:17Speaker 1: I have taken the backseat of like the I don't know,
- 30:22Speaker 1: like you know what I'm trying to say, Like I'm cool.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm cool, just like I've done it for so
- 30:25Speaker 3: long not to not to take the foot of I'm
- 30:28Speaker 3: not saying I'm taking the foot off the guys, clearly,
- 30:29Speaker 3: I'm doing a million things. I just do it quieter, right,
- 30:32Speaker 3: But back to the post's great because it could somebody else,
- 30:35Speaker 3: somebody else could get forwarded that or seeing it who
- 30:38Speaker 3: doesn't check in, They're like, well, let me start checking
- 30:40Speaker 3: in to see.
- 30:40Speaker 1: You know some more of more. I keep telling to.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Post all the things. Yeah, I'm like, let's do your
- 30:46Speaker 2: link tree, let's do that, Like, but.
- 30:47Speaker 5: The thing about like you mentioned one oh six and park,
- 30:49Speaker 5: if I tuned it in and there was a song
- 30:51Speaker 5: that was number four on the Countdown and I never
- 30:53Speaker 5: even heard it before the fact that it's number four,
- 30:55Speaker 5: I'm gonna go, oh, what is this?
- 30:56Speaker 4: I feel like I'm missing something.
- 30:57Speaker 5: Yeah, So now all of a sudden, if I'm posting
- 30:59Speaker 5: that I have an number one night show and all
- 31:01Speaker 5: these demographics, people might sit there and go, oh, I
- 31:03Speaker 5: feel like I'm missing something.
- 31:04Speaker 4: Now I'm going to tune in.
- 31:06Speaker 5: But it's like this weird mind screwing of like you know,
- 31:10Speaker 5: people that know know, like dog, you could be number
- 31:12Speaker 5: seven in two weeks, like stop it. And being a
- 31:15Speaker 5: former program director who used to run radio stations, I
- 31:17Speaker 5: know that firsthand. But then it's like people meters, Yeah,
- 31:19Speaker 5: are we Are we posting for people that follow us
- 31:24Speaker 5: or are we posting to get people to follow us?
- 31:27Speaker 2: It depends on what your strategy is exactly.
- 31:28Speaker 1: But you could also be posting because yeah, but by
- 31:31Speaker 1: the way, some people don't.
- 31:32Speaker 3: You don't even need to answer that, Like it could
- 31:34Speaker 3: literally just be for yourself, Like I'm posting for myself,
- 31:36Speaker 3: Like I come to work every day and putting a
- 31:38Speaker 3: lot of work in soot.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Videos are for me.
- 31:40Speaker 3: If I'm putting it off, it's like if you win,
- 31:43Speaker 3: like whatnot. You know, I think nobody else is gonna
- 31:46Speaker 3: do it right, Pat myself on the back.
- 31:48Speaker 4: That's how I feel. Yeah, well, my therapist is trying
- 31:50Speaker 4: to get me to do that more often.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Great, I go, I go.
- 31:54Speaker 4: I started slowing down a bit because I've been feeling
- 31:56Speaker 4: good by the way. I know, we got to wrap
- 31:57Speaker 4: this up.
- 31:58Speaker 5: But I started taking something called Saint John's Wart, the
- 32:01Speaker 5: most unattractive name.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Ever, but look at up Saint John's Wart.
- 32:04Speaker 4: Yeah you can find it.
- 32:06Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it's like an organic herb that helps with
- 32:09Speaker 5: like miles to moderate depression.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Okay, pro still gonna google this after we do.
- 32:13Speaker 1: I've done that.
- 32:14Speaker 5: Yeah, they have it at like CVS Dwayne Reid any
- 32:17Speaker 5: pharmacy or whatever. Again, terrible name, easy to remember. But
- 32:21Speaker 5: I started taking it. My sister put me onto it.
- 32:23Speaker 5: I started taking it maybe December, and when those two
- 32:25Speaker 5: blizzards came in February or whatever, like the crippling seasonal depression,
- 32:30Speaker 5: I get I did not have it, and I literally
- 32:32Speaker 5: like attribute that to this over the counter Like I said,
- 32:35Speaker 5: it treats mile to me herbal remedy two pills in
- 32:38Speaker 5: the morning gives me a little energy as well. I
- 32:41Speaker 5: also take vitamin CND started focusing on my gut health.
- 32:43Speaker 5: I'm down forty pounds and eleven months. Wow, everyone, everyone's
- 32:47Speaker 5: down by the way, you look great looking over your
- 32:49Speaker 5: shoulder and seeing that photo up there.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you pictures after this, I'm down right, well,
- 32:54Speaker 1: I was down forty. I think I'm down third. I
- 32:56Speaker 1: think I put ten back on. But that's fine.
- 32:57Speaker 4: Yeah, something's coming.
- 33:00Speaker 3: They keep saying, Yes, Golden Corral, shot to gold and
- 33:03Speaker 3: around the Bronx, but yeah, we we'll get there.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Josh, I really appreciate your authenticity and your vulnerability. You're
- 33:14Speaker 2: so you and all of the personalities here you know,
- 33:18Speaker 2: are are in that same lineage. But from your social
- 33:22Speaker 2: media to talking to you in person, who on the air,
- 33:26Speaker 2: you are the same person across all of those modalities,
- 33:28Speaker 2: and it shows I.
- 33:30Speaker 5: Try to be because if there's one thing we know
- 33:31Speaker 5: growing up in New York City, no one likes those
- 33:33Speaker 5: fake ass people, those used car salesmen. We all have
- 33:37Speaker 5: them in our lives, like we all probably have a
- 33:39Speaker 5: family member, whether it's a cousin, an uncle and aunt
- 33:42Speaker 5: that you're just like, oh, hi, Many's young because you're like,
- 33:46Speaker 5: you know what I love.
- 33:47Speaker 3: With your story and a lot of the stories we're
- 33:49Speaker 3: getting from the people in the building, right, and we're
- 33:51Speaker 3: getting from everybody, all the different people that come in.
- 33:53Speaker 3: But what I love about what we're doing with everybody
- 33:55Speaker 3: in this building is you're really getting to know the
- 33:58Speaker 3: person behind the mic, right, and everyone here has such
- 34:01Speaker 3: an incredible story, and it's just it's it's great because
- 34:05Speaker 3: you know.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I feel like thirty minutes is not enough.
- 34:07Speaker 3: We let everyone needs to come Yeah everyone, well Maxwell
- 34:10Speaker 3: first boy, he's like ready to come back in for
- 34:12Speaker 3: the third time or but everyone has their story and
- 34:15Speaker 3: their journey of how they got to where they're at.
- 34:17Speaker 3: And I love it because nobody's like this overnight or
- 34:19Speaker 3: like hand me down. You know, there's gonna be those
- 34:22Speaker 3: people who are like, well, this person's the boss and
- 34:25Speaker 3: just likes this person so kind of like it's like
- 34:28Speaker 3: you should do this right, hard work. Yeah, all these
- 34:31Speaker 3: people worked hard to get where they're at.
- 34:32Speaker 5: I love it, and I take a lot of pride
- 34:34Speaker 5: in talking about my story because I feel like there's
- 34:37Speaker 5: a lot of people that grew up the same way
- 34:38Speaker 5: I did. That feel like there's no way out, that
- 34:41Speaker 5: there's no nobody's there to like help them out, there's
- 34:44Speaker 5: nobody to look up to, Like I say it all
- 34:45Speaker 5: the time, Like the Andre Martinez, just her name alone
- 34:49Speaker 5: made me realize, Wait, there's a Latino and radio that
- 34:52Speaker 5: doesn't have to be over the top, Like.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Wait that shit mag with that fake ass voice.
- 34:58Speaker 5: Like all of a sudden, there's, all of a sudden,
- 35:01Speaker 5: there's a Martinez Spanish.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Actually post that one.
- 35:09Speaker 4: In the industry.
- 35:09Speaker 5: It's called puking and it's not that but but like
- 35:13Speaker 5: they but growing up, if you automatically think Martinez, it's
- 35:18Speaker 5: got to be Spanish, you gotta speak Spanish.
- 35:20Speaker 4: I didn't speak Spanish.
- 35:20Speaker 5: Typical New York ekan right where it's like, oh wait,
- 35:24Speaker 5: there's somebody that's got my last name that isn't trying
- 35:27Speaker 5: to speak Spanish. They're just themselves. Like that's kind of dope.
- 35:30Speaker 5: I don't have to because that was just my misconception
- 35:32Speaker 5: of radio at the time, growing up, and then just
- 35:35Speaker 5: through the years looking at at a lot of different
- 35:37Speaker 5: people's stories and you know, growing up on welfare and
- 35:41Speaker 5: like I said, dude, just just hustling and grinding and
- 35:44Speaker 5: not taking anything for granted because the mindset of like
- 35:46Speaker 5: I don't know when that next thing is gonna come,
- 35:48Speaker 5: you know. I remember like my mom giving me hand
- 35:50Speaker 5: me down sneakers that were like two sizes too big,
- 35:52Speaker 5: and she was like, oh, you'll grow into them. They're
- 35:54Speaker 5: like clown shoes on me dog. And I'm like when
- 35:56Speaker 5: in two weeks. I hope so because and like that's
- 35:58Speaker 5: not how it works for tonight.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
- 36:01Speaker 4: It was bad, but no, I was, like we were
- 36:04Speaker 4: talking about.
- 36:05Speaker 5: Before, like I think there's a lot of people in
- 36:06Speaker 5: this building that have dope stories, and you know, I
- 36:09Speaker 5: tell everybody the same thing, Like, not everybody's story is
- 36:11Speaker 5: the same. Good example I always use is like Wendy
- 36:13Speaker 5: Wild grew up on Long Island, started radio on Long Island,
- 36:18Speaker 5: went to New Haven, Connecticut, back to Long Island, New
- 36:20Speaker 5: York City, so she stayed right in her region.
- 36:23Speaker 4: And then you'll have someone like me, who did.
- 36:25Speaker 5: You know New York, west Chester, Long Island, the Moye, Iowa,
- 36:30Speaker 5: see the Rapids Iowa, Dayton, Ohio, Maxwell from San Diego,
- 36:34Speaker 5: Crystal from San Francisco.
- 36:37Speaker 4: But if that's the beauty of.
- 36:38Speaker 5: Like, if you work hard and you make the right connections,
- 36:42Speaker 5: you'll get to where you want to get to.
- 36:43Speaker 3: And in our case, this is the time I started
- 36:45Speaker 3: in Florida. Yeah, start in Orlando to make it here,
- 36:51Speaker 3: to make it actually on TV before I've even made
- 36:52Speaker 3: it here.
- 36:53Speaker 4: On radio.
- 36:54Speaker 3: Really yeah, you were on one oh six before Yeah,
- 36:56Speaker 3: I got on. So the story of that is, well,
- 37:00Speaker 3: that would be like a whole nother podcast. But what
- 37:03Speaker 3: I made so much noise. And this was when I
- 37:05Speaker 3: was like nineteen twenty that when b ET started going
- 37:10Speaker 3: down and they were filming spring Bling in Daytona Beach,
- 37:13Speaker 3: you had to come to.
- 37:14Speaker 1: They would have to.
- 37:15Speaker 3: They would send their talent scouts to Orlando where I was,
- 37:18Speaker 3: to like recruit people to go down there.
- 37:20Speaker 1: They needed. They were getting the girls again.
- 37:22Speaker 3: And I started hooking up with those people and they
- 37:24Speaker 3: were like, Yo, They'd go to the parties I was
- 37:26Speaker 3: at because at that point I had all the parties
- 37:27Speaker 3: on lock, so they were everywhere they went to try
- 37:29Speaker 3: to recruit. I was there, and they were you know,
- 37:31Speaker 3: they were like, Yo, who's this? Yeah, Like Yo, you
- 37:34Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And so I hooked that with them.
- 37:36Speaker 3: I met the right people and they were like, Yo,
- 37:37Speaker 3: we need an opening DJ. Like they saw me killing
- 37:41Speaker 3: the killing it, you know what I'm saying, And they
- 37:42Speaker 3: were like, Yo, we need DJs to DJ when the
- 37:45Speaker 3: in between, like when the cameras were off, are you down?
- 37:48Speaker 3: I was like, say less. They're like, they're like, we'll
- 37:50Speaker 3: hook you up. We'll bring you up there for Rap City.
- 37:52Speaker 3: That's what it was at the time. They're like this
- 37:54Speaker 3: one Rap City had guest DJs. So I was like,
- 37:56Speaker 3: hell yeah, So I went. I killed it on the
- 37:58Speaker 3: beach to the point where like they were like, we're
- 38:00Speaker 3: gonna turn the cameras on. Just keep doing what you're doing.
- 38:02Speaker 3: I was playing like bone Crusher. We ain't never scared,
- 38:05Speaker 3: like all these records that I just came out because
- 38:07Speaker 3: I was cool with them past to Troy and like
- 38:09Speaker 3: I was in the South, I was like in the
- 38:10Speaker 3: streets like I you know, you know, the whole background.
- 38:12Speaker 3: So so they went crazy to make a long story
- 38:15Speaker 3: shout outs.
- 38:16Speaker 1: I got BT.
- 38:16Speaker 3: I met with execs there, you know, obviously kept it
- 38:20Speaker 3: very professional nights with them, We talked. They brought me
- 38:22Speaker 3: up for Rahap City. Me and Tigger hooked up like
- 38:25Speaker 3: mad cool. I started DJing some of his parties. He'd
- 38:27Speaker 3: bring me to do his parties and that led into
- 38:30Speaker 3: DJing the b the BT Awards in La before I
- 38:35Speaker 3: dj for AJ and Free for one O six in
- 38:37Speaker 3: Park when they filmed it in La. That's the first
- 38:40Speaker 3: time I dj for one O six in part and
- 38:42Speaker 3: then I never DJed with them in the studio. I
- 38:45Speaker 3: dj for them on the road and then they left,
- 38:48Speaker 3: and then they brought me in to dj for I
- 38:52Speaker 3: did the whole Tigger and Jalisa run and then obviously
- 38:54Speaker 3: Roxy and Terrence, but that names and like so long,
- 38:58Speaker 3: so I dj for the the one of six some
- 39:00Speaker 3: Park episodes for them because.
- 39:01Speaker 4: I remember you from like those days.
- 39:03Speaker 5: But I guess maybe probably because you've been in radio
- 39:06Speaker 5: so long, my mind just probably warps it into It's
- 39:08Speaker 5: also the.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Amount of time that's passed right. Time is really flying,
- 39:13Speaker 3: so like we're talking like twenty years ago almost at
- 39:15Speaker 3: this point.
- 39:15Speaker 4: Don't bring it up, but no, like it really is.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Like our youngest is turning ten. When I tell people that,
- 39:21Speaker 3: they're like, there's no way that Alexander's turning ten years old.
- 39:25Speaker 3: They're like, you guys just got married. I'm like, no,
- 39:27Speaker 3: we've actually got married like thirteen years ago, and they're like.
- 39:30Speaker 4: What crazy.
- 39:33Speaker 5: So time is really like I'm feeling that now with
- 39:35Speaker 5: my two and a half year old dog, which is
- 39:36Speaker 5: the greatest thing that's ever happened in me.
- 39:38Speaker 2: It's the best part of your social media.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Yeah, oh dude, I just soak it all that because
- 39:43Speaker 1: it goes by so fast.
- 39:44Speaker 5: So the cliches are true, and that's why they're cliche,
- 39:46Speaker 5: and that's why you hear them all the time.
- 39:47Speaker 1: It goes by.
- 39:48Speaker 3: It only goes by fast when you're looking back, right,
- 39:50Speaker 3: that's you know, because there's always things.
- 39:52Speaker 5: Happen as of disadvantage. My daughter lives in Ohio, so okay,
- 39:56Speaker 5: I go out there every like two to three weekends.
- 39:58Speaker 5: I'll fly out Saturday morning, come back Monday night just
- 40:01Speaker 5: in time to be on air. Sometimes I'll make it
- 40:02Speaker 5: a three day weekend or whatever. Yeah, but I'm constantly
- 40:05Speaker 5: out there, FaceTime with her every single day, twice a day,
- 40:08Speaker 5: sometimes FaceTime this morning.
- 40:09Speaker 4: We're gonna FaceTime again tonight.
- 40:12Speaker 5: And then her mom does a really tremendous job of
- 40:14Speaker 5: like videos, photos, sending me all that stuff so that
- 40:17Speaker 5: I could update social media because to me, it's like
- 40:19Speaker 5: so many of my family members aren't going to get
- 40:22Speaker 5: to see her because I'm the one that's going out
- 40:23Speaker 5: there because it is so much easier for me to
- 40:25Speaker 5: literally go to La Guardia dress like this right now
- 40:27Speaker 5: because I have clothes at the crib or whatever, so
- 40:29Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about anything compared to you
- 40:31Speaker 5: packing up a two and a half year old to
- 40:32Speaker 5: fly here. So yeah, my family members aren't going to
- 40:34Speaker 5: get a chance to see her. So I started posting
- 40:37Speaker 5: for my family members to stay up on her, and
- 40:39Speaker 5: then like a lot of people have hit me up
- 40:41Speaker 5: to be yo, your daughter, like makes me smile, makes
- 40:44Speaker 5: me good, makes you feel good, positive aspect of my day.
- 40:47Speaker 5: And I know we got to wrap up. But best
- 40:50Speaker 5: thing that's ever happened to me changed my life, which
- 40:52Speaker 5: again it's all cliche stuff. But I don't talk about
- 40:56Speaker 5: her a lot because I get emotional. She's dope, she's
- 41:02Speaker 5: so smart and I miss her all the time. But
- 41:06Speaker 5: like I said, much love to her mom because she
- 41:09Speaker 5: keeps me in the loop on everything and I'm constantly
- 41:11Speaker 5: reaching out, does she need anything? Does she you know
- 41:13Speaker 5: you're looking at whatever? Like I try to be as
- 41:17Speaker 5: involved as humanly possible.
- 41:18Speaker 2: And in the halls here we bumped into the baby.
- 41:23Speaker 2: In the halls here, she was taking over the halls. Yeah,
- 41:26Speaker 2: walking around.
- 41:27Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like every time we meet, she talks, she
- 41:30Speaker 5: learns a different word or she learns a different statement
- 41:33Speaker 5: and she uses it in perfect context and it is
- 41:35Speaker 5: the wildest thing ever.
- 41:37Speaker 4: And she's just like I said, I say it all
- 41:39Speaker 4: the time.
- 41:39Speaker 5: I many time somebody asked me about her, I guessaid,
- 41:41Speaker 5: I can't talk about her too much with not getting emotional.
- 41:43Speaker 4: So I always say, dude, she's the best, She's the greatest.
- 41:46Speaker 4: That's what I always tell people.
- 41:48Speaker 5: And then I just kind of keep it moving because
- 41:49Speaker 5: I talk about her for more than twenty seconds and
- 41:50Speaker 5: I start getting emotional.
- 41:52Speaker 4: She just makes me so freaking happy. All right, Sorry,
- 41:56Speaker 4: well I get I get emotion.
- 41:57Speaker 1: If I talk to Penny too much, too, it's like
- 42:00Speaker 1: more like a anger. It's okay, It's okay, No, it's
- 42:03Speaker 1: like an anger, Like yeah, yeah, I'm just.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Glossing over that.
- 42:09Speaker 3: You know.
- 42:09Speaker 2: We didn't hit have the questions that we had today,
- 42:12Speaker 2: But I love part two. I love where the conversation
- 42:15Speaker 2: went and in true teach me something fashion, we are
- 42:19Speaker 2: gonna end with our one word, So Josh, in one word,
- 42:23Speaker 2: what's your legacy?
- 42:24Speaker 5: My legacy, Genevieve, that's gonna be my legacy, my daughter.
- 42:29Speaker 5: Nothing I do matters.
- 42:32Speaker 1: When you have a son.
- 42:34Speaker 5: Nope, Nope, nope, Genevieve, that's that's my legacy.
- 42:42Speaker 4: None of this stuff matters. And you know this better
- 42:44Speaker 4: than I do.
- 42:44Speaker 5: Obviously you have you know, multiple kids, you've been doing
- 42:46Speaker 5: it for he is. Yeah, that's my legacy. So that's why,
- 42:50Speaker 5: you know, trying to balance this all out, it ain't easy.
- 42:53Speaker 5: But Genevieve, that's my legacy. Whatever that girl does, and
- 42:56Speaker 5: she's gonna do a lot of great things. She's gonna
- 42:58Speaker 5: she's gonna make history. She's gonna be a pioneer and
- 43:02Speaker 5: what we'll find out whatever she wants to do. Boppy's
- 43:04Speaker 5: gonna be there to support her one hundred percent. But
- 43:05Speaker 5: my legacy, that's her.
- 43:07Speaker 2: I love that the penny will be here to babysit
- 43:09Speaker 2: all the kids because I don't have any of my own.
- 43:11Speaker 2: There you go, Uncle Pro, You alrighty nose, Thank y'all
- 43:17Speaker 2: for tuning in to another episode of Teach Me.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Something, presented by Berkeley College. I am pro Style and
- 43:22Speaker 1: I'm Penny Tella. We will see you guys next time.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Bye, Hey, thanks for listening. Tune in next week for
- 43:28Speaker 2: all new episode of Teach Me Something, brought to you
- 43:31Speaker 2: by Berkeley College