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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 239 | Winners and Losers of Training Camp So Far · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam in the Honday Studios. I'm kin
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Speaker 1: Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and Mark Duffner are with me
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Speaker 1: today as we recap what was the eighteenth day of
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Speaker 1: open practice for the Jaguars getting into it into training camp.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go over our big things today, brought to
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Speaker 1: you by g eh A Government Employees Health Association. And
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, we've been here many many days in
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Speaker 1: a row and we're hitting the home stretch. And Josh
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Speaker 1: hein Zallan talked yesterday. He said, while we are in
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Speaker 1: the home stretch, it's not time to ease off.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready to I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 3: And you can just tell just by today being like
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Speaker 3: a little job through practice or it's like we need
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Speaker 3: a fine tune everything, like everything needs to look like
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Speaker 3: how it's gonna look week one, like all the little
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Speaker 3: little communication eras that you know, if we don't make it,
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Speaker 3: that's over with. It's time to lock in and it's
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Speaker 3: time to get this thing going.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's.
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Speaker 1: Ready, friend, We're nearing the home stretch, but it's not
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Speaker 1: time to ease off. They got to get ready for
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Speaker 1: a week one of the season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Really, it's a tale of two teams right now.
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Speaker 5: You've got the veteran guys like Josh who are just
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Speaker 5: about to start ramping up and getting their regular season
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Speaker 5: preparation underway.
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Speaker 4: But you've got guys.
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Speaker 5: Like Brian Thomas Junior, Brian with Why the pass rusher
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Speaker 5: who I just talked to on the practice field. They're
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Speaker 5: ramping into their final opportunity to find a way to
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Speaker 5: make this football team their final impression.
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Speaker 4: So it's an interesting sort of.
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Speaker 5: Dichotomy as you come out of training camp. But you
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Speaker 5: also have these guys who are still clinging to their
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Speaker 5: last few days of training camp. You could tell on
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Speaker 5: the practice field and the walk through this morning that
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Speaker 5: these guys are nervous might not be the right word,
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Speaker 5: but really feeling the pressure to make their last few days,
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Speaker 5: perhaps in a Jaguars uniform count Duff. When you talk
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Speaker 5: about any camp ending for guys, they feel it because
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Speaker 5: their football career could be ending.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question about it. And I've been impressed
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Speaker 2: with the focus and the energy that these guys that
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Speaker 2: are trying to make the team are demonstrating. And they're
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Speaker 2: getting a great opportunity here because they're playing these preseason games,
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Speaker 2: they're not only showing up for the Jaguars, but they're
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Speaker 2: showing their wares for the rest of the NFL. So
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Speaker 2: they want to take advantage of every snap and that's
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Speaker 2: a great attitude.
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Speaker 5: They've been working at a kui for their entire football lives,
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Speaker 5: and for some they know this might be the end.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let's talk a little bit about our second big
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Speaker 1: big which is clean up. When we talk about a
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Speaker 1: preseason game, we're going to recap game number two that
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Speaker 1: was last Friday, but not a ton of highlights from
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Speaker 1: that one. Duff one, I'm talking about that game. I'm
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Speaker 1: really thinking about cleaning up the penalties and not making
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Speaker 1: those kinds of mistakes.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're one hundred percent correct, guy, that was the issue.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we had I think five penalties on offense,
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Speaker 2: three on defense, one on special teams. So we got
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Speaker 2: to get that fixed. Then they will they have a
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Speaker 2: major focus on that. And the other thing. I think
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Speaker 2: we got to start fast. You know, we've started slow
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Speaker 2: in both preseason games. Now I realize this is a
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Speaker 2: lot of our backups that are playing. In fact, in
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Speaker 2: the Carolina game, we played against their first offense and
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Speaker 2: first defense, which was great exposure for our team. But again,
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Speaker 2: we got to start faster. I know coach has been
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Speaker 2: beating a drum on that, and the team will respond
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Speaker 2: to that.
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Speaker 5: How difficult is it to start fast and to play
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Speaker 5: without the mistakes and turnovers when the lineup changes, You know,
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Speaker 5: it's seemingly play by play. Different guys are in there
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Speaker 5: trying to get different situations, and it just seems like
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Speaker 5: the preseason, especially the second half of a preseason game
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Speaker 5: is set up to be a bit of a fire drill.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's tough sledding for the coaches and toff
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Speaker 2: sledding for the players the units all together. But again,
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Speaker 2: execution is the name of the game, and you want
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Speaker 2: to see good execution. You want to demand. They're demanding
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Speaker 2: that here and the players will respond to.
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Speaker 4: That in order to get the most out of that game.
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Speaker 5: Especially for the coaches, they need execution so they can
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Speaker 5: get good looks on tape so that they can make
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Speaker 5: great evaluation.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but again I applaud what's going on here
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Speaker 2: because these joint practices have been well run. I've been
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Speaker 2: very impressed with those, and we're going to see two
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Speaker 2: good ones tomorrow and the next day with Campa Bay.
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Speaker 2: But again, players are getting multiple opportunities, whether it's some
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Speaker 2: special teams offense or defense, to show what they can do.
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Speaker 2: And again that's all you can ask is a player.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to our final big thing, which is two days,
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Speaker 1: not two days, but two days of joint practice. Brian
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Speaker 1: we alluded to this. This is the first joint practice
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Speaker 1: that's going to be two days. They had one day
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Speaker 1: each with the Saints and the Panthers last week. But
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Speaker 1: this is something I think Liams really had circled on
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Speaker 1: the calendar for training campan he wants to get a
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Speaker 1: lot of good work in.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people would think kay that he
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Speaker 5: has it circle because he was once with the Bucks.
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Speaker 5: Maybe that too, there was a little undercurrent of a
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Speaker 5: story that perhaps when he came over here, you know,
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Speaker 5: he had gone back there saying I'm going to be
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Speaker 5: a Buck and then he decided to come take the job.
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Speaker 5: Maybe there's a little animosity, you know, yesterday when he
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Speaker 5: was told talking about it, there was none of that.
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Speaker 5: It was all about what he knows, stuff that Todd
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Speaker 5: Bowles is going to bring over here when they come
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Speaker 5: to practice. He's not going to run the vanilla schemes
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Speaker 5: that they saw against the Saints or against the Panthers.
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Speaker 4: He is going to bring his blitz.
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Speaker 5: He's going to bring all sorts of exotic looks that
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Speaker 5: he really will embrace. In other words, Liam wants this
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Speaker 5: for his team to see this on the practice field.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you can feel the respect that he's got for
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Speaker 2: Todd and the organization there, and it's the best thing
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Speaker 2: you can do. I mean, you're going to get quality
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Speaker 2: reps against the high powered defenses. We just talked about
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Speaker 2: multiple and coverage, multiple pressure, multiple in terms of good
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Speaker 2: players against good players. Vida vea going against pregnant. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can't beat that. Our edge guy is going after
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Speaker 2: Werf's and Gotta Key or whatever his last name is.
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Speaker 2: A two offensive tackles, quality reps, quality experience, if you will,
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Speaker 2: and great respect between both.
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Speaker 4: Coaches from the Bucks perspective. Guy.
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Speaker 5: That was exactly what Todd Bowles said in his news
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Speaker 5: conference on say, he knows what kind of the offense
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Speaker 5: Liam Cohen brings and he can't wait for his team
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Speaker 5: to get those live looks right before the regular season starts.
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Speaker 5: He's getting one of the best play callers in football.
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Speaker 5: Working against his defense. What could be better than that?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's safe to say both of these
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Speaker 1: teams are going to take those practices very seriously. Say
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Speaker 1: with us here on Jacks Am, we're going to look
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Speaker 1: back at preseason game number two after the break.
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Speaker 6: Being here definitely is verbalizing the offense in the Huddle's
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Speaker 6: that's a big thing that I to, you know, practice
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Speaker 6: calling those long plays things like that. So definitely that,
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Speaker 6: and you know, just the offense in general. It's a
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Speaker 6: lot of little details that we got to be perfect
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Speaker 6: in which makes the offense so good. And that's why
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Speaker 6: Trevor is so good and picking up blitzes and you know,
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Speaker 6: finding the key areas of defense. So I got a
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Speaker 6: lot to do, still a lot to grow from. I'm
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Speaker 6: excited to, you know, keep taking stats on from Trevor
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Speaker 6: and Carter and you know, the coaches and you know,
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Speaker 6: see where we could go in the season.
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Speaker 1: For Joey Aguilar, undrafted rookie added to the team out
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Speaker 1: of Tennessee, we'll get to him in a second. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about preseason game number two, and I am
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Speaker 1: not going to sugarcoat it. It was pretty tough to
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Speaker 1: watch at times and stuff. We talked about this a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Was it nine penalties in the first half.
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Speaker 1: I mean, good on them not getting you in the
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Speaker 1: second half, but that you can't play that way.
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Speaker 2: No, no, you don't want to give snaps away. In fact,
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Speaker 2: if anything, we're trying to take things from the opponent,
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Speaker 2: not give it away. And again, as Brian alluded to,
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Speaker 2: you know mix of players in there, people that haven't
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Speaker 2: necessarily worked against each other and haven't got as many
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Speaker 2: snaps or reps as you'd like. But again, the execution
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Speaker 2: of that and not giving snaps away is going to
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Speaker 2: be focused in on this week.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure in practice, Brian, when it's so many different
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Speaker 1: players coming in and out, I'm sure it's difficult and
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Speaker 1: we'll you know, for whether the quarterback or whoever. It
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Speaker 1: is to deal with not knowing who's around you at
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Speaker 1: certain times. But part of the is also just the
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Speaker 1: development and understanding how to play in an actual NFL game,
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Speaker 1: because some of these players are very young with.
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Speaker 4: A doubt and it's tough for them.
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Speaker 5: It's tough for play by play guy too when they're
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Speaker 5: changing all the time. It was not a pretty game
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Speaker 5: to watch it all, and you're talking about guys some
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Speaker 5: who had just shown up, who had just come and
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Speaker 5: gotten onto the roster, and you're trying to remember just
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Speaker 5: the snap count seems at times difficult, and we saw
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Speaker 5: enough of that. Listen, these guys have to take their
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Speaker 5: role right, whether it's the route they run or whether
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Speaker 5: it's the block that they have to execute, and they're
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Speaker 5: worried about getting it right for themselves because they know
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Speaker 5: this rep is going to be evaluated. When you're Carter
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Speaker 5: Bradley like on this play right, I mean, he knows exactly,
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Speaker 5: he's a son of a coach. He knows not to
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Speaker 5: throw back across the middle of the start. But what's
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Speaker 5: he trying to do is trying to make a play.
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Speaker 5: He's in a quarterback competition for the third spot. So
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Speaker 5: there's all of those factors and more. You know, preseason
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Speaker 5: games may have outlived their usefulness.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think on what I've seen on the joint
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Speaker 2: practices and what you can get out of that, I
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Speaker 2: think you're probably right. There's still great evaluative opportunities to
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Speaker 2: see these players and see what they can contribute to
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Speaker 2: your team. But right about now, everybody's pressing. They know
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Speaker 2: that the clock is ticking, you know, towards the deadline
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Speaker 2: of roster development. So I mean Carter pressed on that play,
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Speaker 2: you know, and so and he wasn't the only one. Again,
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Speaker 2: we didn't just we didn't play to the standard that
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Speaker 2: this team, this organization is set up.
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Speaker 5: You see enough kui on the tay to make it worthwhile,
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Speaker 5: I guess to play the game because of those situations
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Speaker 5: for the young players.
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Speaker 4: You're trying to build your depth in your roster. But
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Speaker 4: you also Friday night against Tampa, do we anticipate it
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Speaker 4: being all that much better?
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Speaker 5: I mean, you hope, but you're still gonna have five
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Speaker 5: or six penalties in the first half, right.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're gonna Well I hope not.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: I know the coaches are working like crazy to eliminate that,
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Speaker 2: as are the players and the way they practice. But
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Speaker 2: again it's it's still hard to duplicate real game speed decisions,
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Speaker 2: all of it that goes into the mechanics of communication
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Speaker 2: that's got to go through. So they're valuable in terms
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Speaker 2: of continued development for your team, and also players think
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Speaker 2: it's fair.
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Speaker 5: Coaches don't see they see the sloppiness like we do,
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Speaker 5: but they aren't looking at the game like we are,
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Speaker 5: or like the fans in the stands are. They're looking
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Speaker 5: at particular players, right, They're looking to see Brian Thomas
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Speaker 5: Junior with a y. They're trying to see him in
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Speaker 5: pass rush situation.
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Speaker 2: Shoot, he had three tackles in the game and two
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Speaker 2: quarterback pressures. So again, when you really look at it now,
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Speaker 2: that was to his advantage. Absolutely, you know, good stuff.
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Speaker 1: There were a couple of highlights. We'll start out with
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Speaker 1: a mir Abdullah, who I think by design had to
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Speaker 1: play just because they're trying to get bodies out there.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need preseason reps. He's a twelve year veteran.
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Speaker 1: But you can see why maybe they didn't play him
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Speaker 1: in the first game, trying to hide him a little bit,
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Speaker 1: because he's still got that pop.
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Speaker 5: He's amazing twelve years in thirty three years of age,
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Speaker 5: and this is the position in professional football that is
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Speaker 5: the shortest life's to have, right, because they take such
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Speaker 5: a beating. And yet I talked to him after practice
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Speaker 5: on Sunday. He's tough, he's durable, he loves the game,
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Speaker 5: and look at the wiggle that he has.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that twenty three yard game that he had Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was wow. I mean he made people miss I
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Speaker 2: didn't you know, great footwork, great big goes. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: mean he shook that guy right there. You saw it.
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Speaker 2: And then you know in two men he makes an
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Speaker 2: eleven yard catching a sixteen yard catch when we needed
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Speaker 2: it in that drive, which so great contribution by him.
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Speaker 5: The Jaguars are his seventh NFL team in twelve seasons.
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Speaker 5: He will either be on seven or eighth this year
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Speaker 5: he's playing on someone's roster.
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Speaker 1: Yes, if he doesn't make this roster, I'm sure he's
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Speaker 1: one of the ones that gets picked up. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he makes it to practice squad especially. I've also
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Speaker 1: hearing he's great pass protection as well, so that's always
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Speaker 1: something you're looking for.
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Speaker 5: He's not a big guy, but in talking to him,
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Speaker 5: he has a big heart for this game and isn't
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Speaker 5: ready to see it end. And with the way he played,
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Speaker 5: the league isn't ready for him to believe yet.
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Speaker 1: And then also we heard Joey Aguilar off the top
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Speaker 1: and he was able to string some stuff together late.
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Speaker 1: It will make it a little bit more interesting.
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Speaker 4: Which filled the numbers yet Okay.
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Speaker 1: Called on to those, but just in terms of like
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Speaker 1: actually kind of seeing something string together that was at
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Speaker 1: least enjoyable to see them put a couple of things together,
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Speaker 1: because at certain points it was just not even functioning well.
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Speaker 5: And Liam said on Sunday after practice that to watch
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Speaker 5: him work through his progression is to see a guy
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Speaker 5: who really understands the passing attack.
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Speaker 4: And on the touchdown.
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Speaker 5: Throw, the way that he went from read to read
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Speaker 5: to read, then slid in the pocket and then made
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Speaker 5: that throw put the ball right on the spot as
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Speaker 5: he was moving under pressure.
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Speaker 4: He's an impressive guy. Tennessee.
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Speaker 5: They had a nice passing attack up there. He clearly
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Speaker 5: learned from it, oh for sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean they were probably the most up tempo team
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Speaker 2: in the country last year in college football in terms
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Speaker 2: of reps and mechanics. And he's come in and you
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Speaker 2: know again, I watched him orchestrate the offense, check off
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Speaker 2: no issues. I mean, it looks like he's been in there,
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Speaker 2: he had limited reps, and what he's been able to
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Speaker 2: do in terms of running the offense, commanding the schemes
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Speaker 2: has been.
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Speaker 5: Very impressive and so accurate. Go back to the Saints
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Speaker 5: game and the throw that he made, the forty three
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Speaker 5: yarder put it right on trepor Penya right there. It
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Speaker 5: was a spectacular throw.
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Speaker 1: Abslutely had some good ones in this most recent game
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Speaker 1: as well. Coming up after the break, we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about happy campers and unhappy campers, who's looked great
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Speaker 1: so far in training camp and who still has some
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Speaker 1: work to do. Jag Zam and the Jaguars matchup against
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Speaker 1: the Bucks this week, brought to you by Wolfson's Children's Hospital,
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Speaker 1: the official children's hospital of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 7: You got to maximize these ops and then the continued
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Speaker 7: connuity in chemistry is so important that every single time
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Speaker 7: we step out here, there has to be real intentionality
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Speaker 7: and not just Okay, this is another training camp practice
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Speaker 7: like that, ain't it anymore?
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Speaker 4: Guys?
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Speaker 7: You know, we're building towards something, We're sharpening our edge
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Speaker 7: towards something. And I thought, like Chris Rodriguez today, he
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Speaker 7: practiced that way, and you know, we got to continue
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Speaker 7: to get guys to do the same.
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Speaker 1: We'll probably technically past the dog days, but mentally it's
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Speaker 1: hard to stay sharp as much when you're here every
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Speaker 1: day as well. So I know Leo is definitely expecting
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Speaker 1: a lot out of his players in those joint practices.
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Speaker 1: We'll be live with you on Wednesday, the second day
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Speaker 1: of joint practices, so we'll kind of recap that Tuesday
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Speaker 1: practice for you. But we've been here every day training camp.
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Speaker 1: It's three four weeks in at this point. I've lost track,
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Speaker 1: but we do know who's stood out to us in
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Speaker 1: good ways and who still maybe has some work to do.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna do happy campers and unhappy campers of
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Speaker 1: training camp. So Brian, tell us what you've observed. Who's
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Speaker 1: your happy camp right?
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Speaker 4: And that's Captain Obvious here right.
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Speaker 5: But Emmanuel Pregnant, the Jaguars third round pick from Oregon
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Speaker 5: All American guard, played at USC and Wyoming, so it's
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Speaker 5: not as if he didn't understand how to play football
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Speaker 5: at the highest level on the college level. But the
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Speaker 5: word was was that he was going to take a
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Speaker 5: little bit of time. He was your long term starter.
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Speaker 4: I e. Twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 5: He didn't take him but a quarter first game against
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Speaker 5: the Saints, and he showed his dominance. And Jeff Loggam
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Speaker 5: had been talking all through camp. I know he had
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Speaker 5: to you, two, Duff, if this guy got his hands
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Speaker 5: on you, you're done.
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Speaker 4: You're absolutely done.
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Speaker 5: Antonio Boselli echoed that sentiment in pass protection as well.
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Speaker 5: Now he has to get better in pass protection because
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Speaker 5: he's got to move quicker. He's going to see some
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Speaker 5: guys that are going to be very, very fast. But
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Speaker 5: he is a ready to play guard right now. I
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Speaker 5: would be shocked. It' stunned if he's not the guy
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Speaker 5: on opening day who's had a better camp than this guy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think what was the evaluative term we
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Speaker 1: were hearing on Maler. He just mauls people in front
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Speaker 1: of him, and when you put him on the left side.
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Speaker 1: Now with anton Harrison, who has become a non story
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Speaker 1: because he's done so well at left tackle since moving
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Speaker 1: over for training camp, that's a pretty dominant left side road.
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Speaker 2: Greater plus, with these joint practice is coming up.
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Speaker 1: Vita Veya, He's gonna get tested, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: I think that's awesome, be a great experience.
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Speaker 5: He faced Derek Brown the All Protaal against Carolina and
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Speaker 5: did well, but he also learned a couple of things.
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Speaker 5: It's a lot more difficult to move these guys, so
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Speaker 5: he will benefit tremendously from it.
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Speaker 1: Who's your unhappy Camper, who is something they got to
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Speaker 1: work on.
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Speaker 5: Carter Bradley the quarterback, and all of us have been
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Speaker 5: pulling for him because his family ties right with you,
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Speaker 5: Guss and michaela who we know and love.
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Speaker 4: It was great to see him last year. He's got
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Speaker 4: a cannon for an arm, but he's.
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Speaker 5: Made some poor throws, poor decisions and Joey.
16:34
Speaker 1: Aguilar not hot.
16:37
Speaker 4: On his heels.
16:38
Speaker 5: In fact, if it's me, I'm saying that Carter Bradley
16:42
Speaker 5: has fallen to fourth and Agilar, polished passer, a quarterback
16:48
Speaker 5: who seems so comfortable in the system right now appears
16:52
Speaker 5: to have passed Carter Bradley.
16:53
Speaker 4: Bradley's going to have to go into the game.
16:55
Speaker 5: On Friday night and play his best football, which, okay,
17:01
Speaker 5: every quarterback wants to do that every game, but.
17:04
Speaker 4: When you know that your job is on the line,
17:06
Speaker 4: the pressure is there.
17:07
Speaker 5: And Gus famously was a guy who tried to get
17:09
Speaker 5: players to play without the pressure, and Carter, you know,
17:13
Speaker 5: grew up hearing play loose, play relaxed, play free. He
17:17
Speaker 5: has got a very difficult task on Friday to go
17:21
Speaker 5: play his best ball in a game that he has
17:23
Speaker 5: to play his best ball because there's someone behind him
17:26
Speaker 5: or equal to him that he's playing his best ball.
17:29
Speaker 2: Competition brings the best out of everybody, and this is
17:31
Speaker 2: a highly competitive situation with those two guys. So we'll
17:34
Speaker 2: see what happens. But again, it's going to be interesting development.
17:39
Speaker 1: It leads in pretty nicely to who I think your
17:41
Speaker 1: happy camper might be. Dough.
17:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not to jump on the bandwagon. That's why,
17:47
Speaker 2: thank you very much, but yeah, Joey Aguilar's my guy,
17:50
Speaker 2: and I was impressed with him in the beginning. I
17:52
Speaker 2: came out here and watched the rookie mini camp. I
17:54
Speaker 2: watched OTAs. I like this guy's ability to make all
17:58
Speaker 2: the throws. He's got the abilities and a capability he
18:01
Speaker 2: can get out of trouble, and the fact I just
18:03
Speaker 2: watched his poise and his confidence and running the offense.
18:07
Speaker 2: When he's got the opportunity, he comes out. He's one
18:10
Speaker 2: for one with a great great throws we talked about
18:12
Speaker 2: in the first game against New Orleans, and then are
18:15
Speaker 2: you kidding me? You know this pass game against Carolina,
18:17
Speaker 2: he's nine for ten for one hundred and thirty yards.
18:20
Speaker 2: Again adjusting at the line of scrimmage, checking off I
18:23
Speaker 2: just thought, man, I don't know if I've ever seen
18:25
Speaker 2: anybody have a better start as a rookie quarterback in
18:29
Speaker 2: game situations. So I like a lot of what he
18:32
Speaker 2: brings to the table. As I mentioned, he had a
18:34
Speaker 2: lot of success really only one year in Joshhipe's offense
18:38
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. He transferred i think from UCLA and comes
18:42
Speaker 2: in and runs an offense it's as high powered as
18:44
Speaker 2: any in the country. A lot of talent with this guy.
18:47
Speaker 5: And as we know, with Liam Cohen's system, because Trevor
18:49
Speaker 5: Lawrence told us it's a complicated system.
18:52
Speaker 4: It takes time. You're talking about a guy who comes
18:54
Speaker 4: from a complicated system in college football.
18:56
Speaker 5: It appears like he's got the upside to be able
18:59
Speaker 5: to be a backup quarterback in this league.
19:01
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's also you know, he's demonstrated he's
19:03
Speaker 2: a good decision maker. He made the decision as a
19:05
Speaker 2: free agent to come here and be tutored by Liam Cohen,
19:08
Speaker 2: a guy that's had great success with obviously Baker Mayfield
19:11
Speaker 2: and Tampa and currently with our guy Trevor Lawrence here.
19:14
Speaker 2: So great decision making by this guy. I'm excited to
19:17
Speaker 2: see this guy.
19:18
Speaker 1: Develop absolutely, and when we look at roster building from
19:21
Speaker 1: the team's perspective, if he's the third quarterback, he can
19:24
Speaker 1: run your scout team well because he's talented and he
19:27
Speaker 1: clearly picks things up quickly. So I feel like that's
19:29
Speaker 1: very helpful. I would imagine when you're prepping your defense
19:31
Speaker 1: week to week.
19:32
Speaker 2: I would love to have this guy. I mean again,
19:34
Speaker 2: his ability to run to run stpable plays if you
19:38
Speaker 2: will extend plays again, makes all the throws. Oh, he'd
19:41
Speaker 2: be a perfect guy to have on the look team
19:44
Speaker 2: that you're going to face each and every week.
19:46
Speaker 1: Love it all right, Duff, who's your unhappy camp or
19:48
Speaker 1: who has some stuff to work on it least?
19:50
Speaker 2: You know, I've kind of been waiting to see more
19:52
Speaker 2: from Albert Regis, you know, in the defensive line in
19:55
Speaker 2: an area that we really, you know, need some help.
19:57
Speaker 2: I mean, I look for him to be a guy
19:59
Speaker 2: that could add to the rush material wise, we were
20:01
Speaker 2: like twenty seventh in terms of efficiency and interior rush
20:05
Speaker 2: pretty strong outside obviously with our two edge guys and
20:08
Speaker 2: DJ Green Strigaw added to that group. But I just
20:12
Speaker 2: he's been a little too inconsistent for me right now.
20:14
Speaker 2: So I hope that this guy really, you know, it
20:18
Speaker 2: comes forth if he gets an opportunity playing may not,
20:20
Speaker 2: but I just I want to see more out of
20:22
Speaker 2: him right now. I had high hopes with him. He's flashed,
20:25
Speaker 2: so I don't mean to, you know, put a lid
20:27
Speaker 2: on him, but I just I want to see We
20:29
Speaker 2: need this guy to be a factor for us in
20:32
Speaker 2: that defensive interior, which I like what I saw out
20:34
Speaker 2: of Matt Dickerson. He's continued to play, but we need
20:37
Speaker 2: some added help here from.
20:39
Speaker 4: From Albert and we'll find out what you know, where
20:41
Speaker 4: he's at. That's off tissue injury.
20:43
Speaker 1: He's banged up as well, so we haven't seen him
20:45
Speaker 1: much of him lately either. Yeah, and I think with
20:48
Speaker 1: that position group, I know Matt Dickerson had a great
20:50
Speaker 1: day of practice. They love him. To him, he's already
20:53
Speaker 1: a starter in their minds, so we just maybe more
20:55
Speaker 1: of a not a developmental piece. But also he's a
20:58
Speaker 1: big man, but he's playing against big men, so maybe
21:01
Speaker 1: this is a second year contribution once he gets in
21:03
Speaker 1: the gym a little bit more, because he's still very
21:05
Speaker 1: fast and and he can get around really quick, which
21:08
Speaker 1: I think will work to his advantage this season, but
21:11
Speaker 1: going on, adding a little more muscle, I think next
21:13
Speaker 1: season he'll be able to push people around a little
21:14
Speaker 1: bit more.
21:15
Speaker 5: We forget you know, when you draft a guy, you've
21:17
Speaker 5: got him for a couple of years. It's not what
21:18
Speaker 5: you do in Week one. If you get this week
21:21
Speaker 5: one right right, you know, good for you, great draft pick,
21:24
Speaker 5: But it might take him a little bit longer to
21:26
Speaker 5: build the strength that you're talking about.
21:28
Speaker 4: It might be a year two guide before stuff.
21:32
Speaker 2: And really, to be fair, the development oftentimes does take
21:35
Speaker 2: that amount of time. So I'm just I kind of
21:38
Speaker 2: wandering to do it now. Producer, No yesterday. So anyway,
21:43
Speaker 2: Well that kind of a business, isn't it.
21:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see my happy camper. I'm going with Josh Cameron,
21:48
Speaker 1: the late round pick of wide receiver out of failure,
21:51
Speaker 1: because I think this franchise has had some great wide
21:53
Speaker 1: receivers but maybe didn't draft great wide receivers. So this
21:56
Speaker 1: is kind of a cool process we've gotten into recently. Obviously,
21:59
Speaker 1: BTJ is a high pick, but Parker Washington what we're
22:02
Speaker 1: seeing now Josh Cameron a later round pick. CJ. Williams
22:04
Speaker 1: also has been flashing a ton in training camp, and
22:07
Speaker 1: I think for me, what's exciting about Josh Cameron's addition
22:09
Speaker 1: to this roster is he's physical. He'll go up and
22:12
Speaker 1: get it. What have we been talking about for at
22:13
Speaker 1: least the past two years. They don't have a guy
22:15
Speaker 1: that can do that right now, at least not in
22:16
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. You have Front and Strange as a
22:18
Speaker 1: tight end. But Josh Cameron goes up and gets the
22:20
Speaker 1: ball like he's gonna fight for it, and he's physical
22:22
Speaker 1: and he comes down with it. And he had a
22:23
Speaker 1: crazy one hander the other day. It's almost every day
22:25
Speaker 1: a practice he's making a crazy catch. And just having
22:28
Speaker 1: that reliability someone that Trevor's already showing trust in as
22:31
Speaker 1: a rookie, which I mean, if you can earn trust
22:33
Speaker 1: that quickly, that's amazing. And having the opportunity to bring
22:37
Speaker 1: something different to the wide receiver room that already is
22:39
Speaker 1: very dynamic, I think, but just being able to you know,
22:42
Speaker 1: depending on the defense you're playing, Golpen get the football,
22:44
Speaker 1: it's going to be huge.
22:45
Speaker 4: Well, he's very comfortable over the middle of the field.
22:47
Speaker 5: That's where he made plays during training camp and in
22:50
Speaker 5: both of the preseason games. And I'm going to sound
22:52
Speaker 5: like a scout here, and I don't mean to pretend
22:54
Speaker 5: that I am one.
22:55
Speaker 4: But he looks the ball into.
22:58
Speaker 5: His hands and then he has strong hands and he
23:01
Speaker 5: snatches the ball out of the air. He makes it
23:04
Speaker 5: his But rarely do you see him look up or
23:06
Speaker 5: down or think about what he's he gets the ball first.
23:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love both of your assessment of the guy.
23:12
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been impressed. He doesn't look like a
23:14
Speaker 2: rookie in terms of how he practices and plays. Plus
23:17
Speaker 2: he's going to be an added factor in special teams.
23:20
Speaker 2: I think he's training right now. Perhaps is a personal protector.
23:23
Speaker 2: So you've got to have physicality, quick decision making ability,
23:27
Speaker 2: good communication skills to do that. Again, I'm with you.
23:31
Speaker 2: I think that was a great pick and a guy
23:33
Speaker 2: that should be happy camp.
23:35
Speaker 5: He'll play on all four special teams I'm hearing, which
23:38
Speaker 5: tells you what they think about it, and.
23:39
Speaker 1: He's certainly willing to do it. He's a walk on
23:42
Speaker 1: earning a scholarship. He's always had to work for it,
23:44
Speaker 1: so I think he's clearly going to be doing that
23:46
Speaker 1: here to get his reps wherever he can get him
23:48
Speaker 1: from unhappy camper for me. And this is not a
23:51
Speaker 1: negative by any means. But it's Caleb Bransaw who's entering
23:54
Speaker 1: his second season, but he got hurt so early in
23:56
Speaker 1: training camp last year. I think in some ways we
23:58
Speaker 1: have to evaluate him sort of as a rook because
24:00
Speaker 1: he hasn't played and he hasn't participated. And it isn't
24:03
Speaker 1: a negative in the sense of I think he's doing
24:05
Speaker 1: anything bad, but he hasn't popped to me as much. Which, yes,
24:09
Speaker 1: that's a position where maybe you say no news is
24:12
Speaker 1: good news. Maybe he's knocking up I don't know. I'm
24:15
Speaker 1: just saying I see Jalen Husky a lot more. I
24:17
Speaker 1: see Rayon Lane on special teams more. And I have
24:19
Speaker 1: to look around sometimes and try to find Caleb Bransaw
24:22
Speaker 1: as opposed to him showing out to me where he's
24:25
Speaker 1: making his presence felt. And maybe Duff, you look at
24:29
Speaker 1: the film a little bit more, maybe you can break
24:30
Speaker 1: it down exactly. But I feel like he's still learning
24:34
Speaker 1: his way, and I think it's a good reminder to
24:36
Speaker 1: us that it is second year, but he didn't play
24:38
Speaker 1: last year.
24:39
Speaker 2: No, I think you're positioning him much like the rookies
24:43
Speaker 2: is accurate as heck and you know at that position
24:45
Speaker 2: right now. Again, sometimes when you don't hear about him
24:48
Speaker 2: too much, it's a good thing. But I'm with you.
24:50
Speaker 2: He needs to be allowed with his play. I mean,
24:52
Speaker 2: he's trying to make a mark, trying to find his
24:54
Speaker 2: way to get playing time, and so every opportunity you
24:58
Speaker 2: get right now, you want to healthfully be a flash
25:00
Speaker 2: or allowed player. And we got to see that from
25:02
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, but I think you're putting
25:04
Speaker 2: them in the drawer of kind of a rookie because
25:06
Speaker 2: of this health situate. Which situation coming in is accurate.
25:10
Speaker 5: Here's the one thing he's got going in his favorite
25:11
Speaker 5: He right now is the starting gunner on punt team
25:14
Speaker 5: and on kickoff.
25:15
Speaker 4: So he has earned a place there.
25:17
Speaker 5: On special teams, they know what he is, but when
25:19
Speaker 5: you're a second round pick, you got to be more
25:21
Speaker 5: than that. So he and Husky are in a battle
25:24
Speaker 5: for the third safety. The fourth safety is ran life
25:26
Speaker 5: because of what he does on special teams. You got
25:29
Speaker 5: two guys who are third round picks and both of
25:32
Speaker 5: them are fighting for this job. And it's pretty clear
25:37
Speaker 5: that Husky has played better on defense, but the special
25:42
Speaker 5: team side is on Ransaws side right now, So where
25:45
Speaker 5: does it go? We're going to find out Friday night, right,
25:48
Speaker 5: Caleb has to have a big game and Husky has
25:51
Speaker 5: to show on special teams.
25:52
Speaker 2: But see that's why this the setup, the way they've
25:55
Speaker 2: organized the preseason games is ideal for that. You know
25:58
Speaker 2: that's going to come to ruition. So I look forward
26:01
Speaker 2: to seeing that.
26:01
Speaker 4: Have both gonna play a lot.
26:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a good battle for sure. Say
26:05
Speaker 1: with us here, we'll tell you what's coming up the
26:06
Speaker 1: rest of the week at practice.
26:14
Speaker 3: But when it's somebody else, it's like I don't don't
26:19
Speaker 3: don't like you, and I don't want to know who
26:22
Speaker 3: you are. I don't want to check on your family.
26:24
Speaker 3: I don't want to see how you're doing out there.
26:26
Speaker 3: Like I'm here to do what's being called at a
26:29
Speaker 3: very high level and make the players that I'm supposed
26:31
Speaker 3: to make. And so that's what type of energy and
26:34
Speaker 3: that's the type of things we get during you know,
26:37
Speaker 3: during these joint practice one on ones is you know,
26:39
Speaker 3: we go right, first thing we do at this at
26:41
Speaker 3: the endies right to one of ones, get your mind ready,
26:44
Speaker 3: And for me, that's a good mindset builder for me,
26:47
Speaker 3: just just win.
26:50
Speaker 1: Josh Hans Allen talking about mentality going into joint practice.
26:52
Speaker 1: I do not like you, and he's going up against them,
26:55
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit different when you're going against
26:57
Speaker 1: your team. Of course, still want to win, but I
26:59
Speaker 1: think that petition level is going to go up. And
27:01
Speaker 1: we talked about Liam Cohen's old team and he used
27:04
Speaker 1: to work for and all that that goes into it.
27:06
Speaker 1: So I'm expecting it to maybe get a little spicy,
27:09
Speaker 1: but also some good work.
27:10
Speaker 4: Got to give you an observation and listened.
27:11
Speaker 5: Josh Einz Allen has always been a big physical specimen.
27:15
Speaker 5: He was wearing a T shirt in a production meeting
27:17
Speaker 5: that we had in New Orleans. He looks like a
27:19
Speaker 5: superhero this year. I mean every muster is defined, right,
27:23
Speaker 5: I mean he he looks better than ever after eight years,
27:27
Speaker 5: and that speaks to his level of intensity and motivation.
27:31
Speaker 4: I just think he's ready for this year.
27:33
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he is too. I think he's
27:35
Speaker 2: on a mission for sure.
27:36
Speaker 1: You know.
27:36
Speaker 2: I think felt like last year was so so and
27:39
Speaker 2: I saw where he's sitting in his second year in
27:42
Speaker 2: the system. He's always had big production, which he did before,
27:45
Speaker 2: so I think he's on a mission to be productive,
27:49
Speaker 2: to be a real force on the defense.
27:51
Speaker 5: Either that or he's finally heard all of us talking
27:53
Speaker 5: about Trayvon and how impressive trade on his as a
27:56
Speaker 5: large human being, and he decided, you know what, let
27:57
Speaker 5: me show you something.
27:58
Speaker 1: They're both pretty big guys and they're both hell which
28:00
Speaker 1: is great to hear going into the season as well.
28:02
Speaker 1: Two days of joint training camp this week, Duff, how
28:05
Speaker 1: do you kind of do you try to hedge it
28:06
Speaker 1: back a little bit day one so you still have
28:08
Speaker 1: some energy for day two because they're going padded practices,
28:11
Speaker 1: or do you just go all out day one and
28:12
Speaker 1: see what you get.
28:13
Speaker 2: I like what coach Cohen said yesterday in the presser.
28:16
Speaker 2: I think he said, you know, we're going to structure
28:18
Speaker 2: it much like we did the first day or the
28:20
Speaker 2: only day to join against Carolina, and then maybe use
28:24
Speaker 2: the second day to be determined and then see where
28:27
Speaker 2: we are health wise. I think he said they we're
28:29
Speaker 2: going to do maybe more skilled work seven on seven
28:31
Speaker 2: and what have you. But I think he's going to
28:33
Speaker 2: come out with blazing tomorrow with a lot of good work. Again.
28:37
Speaker 2: I really reflected on the great work I saw when
28:40
Speaker 2: they did against Carolina physical, our run game got going good.
28:43
Speaker 2: We had great red zone work, which they've done. And
28:46
Speaker 2: then the special teams drills that he farwelled came up with.
28:49
Speaker 2: In terms of the coverage, they did punt protection and
28:52
Speaker 2: punt coverage a dozen snaps of each at game speed.
28:56
Speaker 2: You priceless. You can't get that in maybe four or
28:58
Speaker 2: five preseason game. So I think what they're going to
29:01
Speaker 2: gain from this the competition, the one on one work,
29:04
Speaker 2: they're going to get, the unit work, they're going to get,
29:06
Speaker 2: special teams works excellent.
29:08
Speaker 5: I think if they get the work done like they
29:11
Speaker 5: did last week against Carolina, you could see them take
29:15
Speaker 5: Wednesday's practice and make it look like yesterday's practice, right,
29:18
Speaker 5: dial it back a little bit shells and not full pads.
29:22
Speaker 1: So you got to do that in the day one.
29:23
Speaker 1: Otherwise I think Day two is going to be a reconding.
29:25
Speaker 1: They don't see what they want to see.
29:26
Speaker 5: I mean Liam has made it pretty clear and last
29:28
Speaker 5: week on Monday when he left the door open, hey
29:30
Speaker 5: I might place them with.
29:31
Speaker 4: These guys, that was clearly a challenge.
29:34
Speaker 5: That was a coaching message. If you get the work done,
29:38
Speaker 5: then you can sit. If you don't get the work done.
29:40
Speaker 2: We're going to get it done, masterfully done. And I
29:42
Speaker 2: thought it was excellent. And as I said that joint
29:45
Speaker 2: practice against Carolina was highly productive.
29:48
Speaker 4: He knows how to get this team ready.
29:50
Speaker 1: All right, two joint practices. We'll be back on jagxam
29:52
Speaker 1: on Wednesday live from practice to give you all the details.
29:55
Speaker 1: We'll see you then