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POTB 575: Previewing Timeless, a new documentary on legendary broadcaster Don Fischer · Podcast on the Brink

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of Podcast on the Brink.
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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August.
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  Speaker 2: 27th, a big day. For our guest this week on
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  Speaker 2: Podcast on the Brink, Mark Alicia of Indiana Public Media.
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  Speaker 2: He has been kind enough to join us on what's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a busy day for him today in Bloomington.
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  Speaker 2: A special screening at Assembly Hall of a new documentary
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  Speaker 2: that's going to premiere tonight at 7 p.m. at Simon
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  Speaker 2: Scott Assembly Hall, Timeless. Don Fisher's Half Century Broadcasting IU Sports.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get to Mark... Wanted to remind you, as always,
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  Speaker 2: Don Fisher fans who are tuned into this week's episode
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  Speaker 2: of Podcasts on the Brink, so they'll be excited to
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  Speaker 2: check out Mark's project. Mark, welcome to the show. Appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you taking the time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Alex.
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  Speaker 2: So I haven't had a chance to see this film yet.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get an advanced screening, but it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be on display tonight at Assembly Hall, 7 p.m. I
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  Speaker 2: understand the subject of the film will also be there, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Don Fisher himself. So some IU fans will get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to see Fish if they make it out to
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  Speaker 2: Assembly Hall tonight. Just talk me through kind of the
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  Speaker 2: idea behind this film. Obviously, we know Don Fisher's been
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  Speaker 2: doing this for, I think, 53 years, broadcasting IU basketball,
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  Speaker 2: IU football. There have been a lot of moments throughout
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  Speaker 2: his career, but the idea behind this film, where did
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  Speaker 2: it come from, and when did you start working on it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, last season, last football season, A lot of the
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  Speaker 1: network broadcasts had tributes to Don, CBS, ESPN, at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the national championship game. They had Don calling
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  Speaker 1: the interception that sealed it with a camera in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: But a year earlier, that sort of thing wasn't that common,
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  Speaker 1: except for one of the games that that I was
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  Speaker 1: watching and they, we had kicked around this idea for
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  Speaker 1: a while at the station, but not super seriously. And
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  Speaker 1: then I saw that tribute during the 2020, uh, 24
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  Speaker 1: season football season. And I saw a tribute to Don
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  Speaker 1: on a, on a network. And I thought we have
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  Speaker 1: to do this. And so I emailed, um, or slacked,
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  Speaker 1: whatever my boss that night, uh, and basically said this,
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  Speaker 1: we have to do this.
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  Speaker 2: And they were obviously receptive to the idea. What was,
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  Speaker 2: so how, I guess, how do you start the project
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  Speaker 2: and kind of what, what was your starting point to
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  Speaker 2: get going on this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the starting point was to ask Don if he
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  Speaker 1: would be interested. And, uh, I didn't know Don and,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he recognized my name from, uh,
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  Speaker 1: 16 years at the Indy star, but, um, I called
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  Speaker 1: him and his reaction was, why would anybody want to
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  Speaker 1: do a documentary about me? And my thought was, how
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  Speaker 1: is it possible that nobody has done one about you
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  Speaker 1: by now? Now there have been tributes, um, IU put
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  Speaker 1: together something nice for his Hall of Fame induction, Broadcasting
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. After 50 years, IU did a nice
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  Speaker 1: halftime ceremony for Don at one of the basketball games.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Big Ten Network had a five- or
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  Speaker 1: ten-minute tribute. But nobody had really tried to... go beyond that.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, it was something almost obvious that just
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  Speaker 1: had to be done. And honestly, though, I just hope
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  Speaker 1: that what everybody sees tomorrow and after that lives up
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  Speaker 1: and is worthy of the subject.
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  Speaker 2: What's anything going through the process that surprised you that
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  Speaker 2: you learned about fish going through this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I kind of knew the story because
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  Speaker 1: as an assistant sports editor at the Indy Star in 2013,
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  Speaker 1: I assigned a long profile of him and the reporter
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  Speaker 1: did a great job, but the traffic exploded. And that
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  Speaker 1: was because of the subject. So, I mean, the traffic
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  Speaker 1: exploded and it's getting all sorts of great reactions now.
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  Speaker 1: People are looking forward to it. But what we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to do And it's not just me. There are
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people involved, including the assistant producer,
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  Speaker 1: Elise Perry, and the editor, Tyler Lake. But what we
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  Speaker 1: were trying to do was to give people who knew
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  Speaker 1: sort of the outline of the story more than they've
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  Speaker 1: seen before, and then also make it so that somebody
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  Speaker 1: who maybe isn't even a sports fan and happens to
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  Speaker 1: be watching for whatever reason would still be interested in. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about a half hour, so it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be a couple minutes of the classic calls, but
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  Speaker 1: I like to think that we accomplished something what we
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  Speaker 1: set out to do and that it's, it's fast moving. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Don liked it. Uh, at least the assistant producer and
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  Speaker 1: I went to his house, uh, uh, last Friday morning,
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  Speaker 1: it showed it to him and he liked it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I really think I, you fans will too. I hope. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The, the, The story, though, about how Fish ended up
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  Speaker 2: in this job is... It's not like he was a
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  Speaker 2: broadcasting prodigy that was destined to end up at IU
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  Speaker 2: and this was his dream job growing up. It's a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an improbable story how he ended up there.
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  Speaker 2: I understand there was a large pool of candidates that
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  Speaker 2: were vying for that job and he actually... uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one out, but what kind of, for those maybe younger
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  Speaker 2: fans in our audience that maybe don't know the story
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  Speaker 2: about how fish ended up at IU, uh, what can
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  Speaker 2: you tell us, uh, just based on what you're able
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  Speaker 2: to research and talking to fish and how that story
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  Speaker 2: all came about?
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  Speaker 1: Um, it goes, uh, it goes farther back than just
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  Speaker 1: a large pool of candidates. Um, although that was certainly
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  Speaker 1: part of it, Don, um, grew up in a small
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  Speaker 1: town called Rochelle, west of Chicago, a rural town. And
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  Speaker 1: he says in the film that he was not a
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  Speaker 1: good student in high school. And he also says, I
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of stupid stuff. I didn't use my
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporting skills to find out what the stupid stuff was.
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  Speaker 1: But He was working for a railroad and I think
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  Speaker 1: doing tickets, something like that. And it doesn't sound like much,
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  Speaker 1: but at the time, apparently, it was something that could
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  Speaker 1: have been a stable job for a long time. But
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to get into sports. He knew he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get into sports. He was an athlete growing up
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  Speaker 1: and in high school. And he saw an ad. in
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  Speaker 1: Sport Magazine, which at the time was one of the
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  Speaker 1: big sports publications. And the ad, full-page ad, said, do
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  Speaker 1: you want to be a sportscaster? And what they were
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  Speaker 1: promoting or selling was a set of vinyl LP records
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  Speaker 1: to learn how to enunciate and call games. He sent
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  Speaker 1: away for that. For our younger folks, what you used
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  Speaker 1: to do is, when I say sent away, we had
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  Speaker 1: this thing called the U.S. Postal Service, and they delivered
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of records to him, vinyl records, and as
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  Speaker 1: his twin, brother, who we interviewed, said he dedicated himself
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  Speaker 1: to using those and learning the craft. Then he moved
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  Speaker 1: around a little bit. He had some very humble starting
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  Speaker 1: jobs there. And then he was in Terre Haute. And
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  Speaker 1: he did everything. Little League to Indiana State University sports.
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  Speaker 1: And in 1973, IU went from producing its own games
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  Speaker 1: and selling them to selling the rights to a network.
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  Speaker 1: That network, the flagship was WIRE in Indianapolis. And they...
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  Speaker 1: advertised for a new uh they advertised for a play-by-play
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  Speaker 1: person don applied he thought he was too late and
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  Speaker 1: he got the job.
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  Speaker 2: And the rest i guess as they say is history
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  Speaker 2: right i mean it's it's the thing about fish is
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  Speaker 2: when when you say iu basketball and obviously football too
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  Speaker 2: but the the two programs obviously iu football a lot
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  Speaker 2: of recent success but Most people have known him for
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  Speaker 2: so long for his historic calls of IU basketball and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he's been calling those games for so long.
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  Speaker 2: But you say the words IU basketball to people, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times talking to fans, people that I
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  Speaker 2: interact with, he's one of the first things that comes up.
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  Speaker 2: Don Fisher is something that people just automatically associate with
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  Speaker 2: IU basketball because he's been ingrained as a part of
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  Speaker 2: the program for so long. I know he doesn't actually
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  Speaker 2: work for IU, but you associate him with the product,
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  Speaker 2: IU basketball. I think a lot of people still make
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  Speaker 2: it a point to listen to his calls. Even if
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  Speaker 2: you have all these different ways, you can follow games,
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  Speaker 2: you can watch it on TV, listen to the broadcast,
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  Speaker 2: you can follow just on the internet and social media,
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  Speaker 2: different ways. But I think a lot of people just
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  Speaker 2: like to listen to fish call the game. Why do
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  Speaker 2: you think that bond, uh, between fish and the fan
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  Speaker 2: base is, is so strong. And, you know, the other thing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so many people have so many great things
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  Speaker 2: to say about him just as a person. I think
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  Speaker 2: that also has maybe something to do with it as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's start with the longevity. Okay. That's obvious. Um,
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  Speaker 1: going into his 54th season. We have somebody in the film,
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  Speaker 1: a fan, just came up to him after a rather
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  Speaker 1: nondescript game, a basketball game from last season, Chicago State,
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  Speaker 1: and he did a selfie. Don does a million selfies.
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  Speaker 1: And the man said, Thank you. You keep me connected
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  Speaker 1: to my roots. And I thought, wow. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of sums it up. Because we're talking generations here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my own son and daughter went to IU.
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  Speaker 1: And he has that appreciation. My son has that appreciation
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  Speaker 1: now for Dunk. Another part is Don is approachable. He
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  Speaker 1: truly is a good man, a nice man. He is
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  Speaker 1: a gentleman. And fans are always coming up to him
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  Speaker 1: and asking him for selfies or autographs. And he just
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  Speaker 1: goes ahead and he's always doing that. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think that that connection comes from that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we have Bob Costas in the film, and
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  Speaker 1: he discusses how a broadcaster like Don can develop a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with a fan base and an audience that, as
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  Speaker 1: Costas put it, no network exists. broadcaster can do no
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  Speaker 1: matter how competent. Um, so I think, well, I think that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's it. And I, well, I would add one other
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  Speaker 1: thing to, um, Scott Dolson, the athletic director said, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Don is our comfort food. And when, whenever anything is, uh, is,
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  Speaker 1: isn't going well, um, people hear the voice or see
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  Speaker 1: him in the room and they think, all right, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, he's seen it all over his career. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, even I find myself when I do listen
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  Speaker 2: to his calls, you know, when he, when he says something, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and, and he, he can be opinionated at times.
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  Speaker 2: And I appreciate that about him as a broadcaster, but
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  Speaker 2: I think his longevity is, has built such credibility with
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  Speaker 2: the audience, right? I mean, people trust what he says
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  Speaker 2: and they really take his opinion and hold it in
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  Speaker 2: high regard.
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  Speaker 1: Through 18 football and men's basketball coaches. Yeah. Over the years.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Was there anything you learned about his relationship with any
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  Speaker 2: of the coaches over the years from the reporting and
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  Speaker 2: from talking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, I mean, I knew that, uh, some, some
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  Speaker 1: of the coaches kind of understood coming in, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: who he was. And then, uh, in the film, we
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  Speaker 1: have Don talking about, uh, the first time he met night. Um, and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let folks, uh, see that, uh, in the, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in the film, uh, Kurt Cignetti is in the film also. And, uh, he,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, of course he just said, you hear, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he said he knew Don at his, or he first
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  Speaker 1: met Don at his press conference, the Google me press conference. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he said, uh, you know, here, here's, I know I
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  Speaker 1: had already heard Don's name all the time and that
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  Speaker 1: he was beloved. And, uh, That was cool to hear that,
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  Speaker 1: that this coach who has become enormous had this appreciation
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  Speaker 1: for Don and his career. And when we went to
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  Speaker 1: interview him, Of course, I had never met him, and
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  Speaker 1: I was all nervous that if we weren't completely efficient
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  Speaker 1: with setting up the camera or anything, he would be
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  Speaker 1: upset or something, or we were wasting his time. No,
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  Speaker 1: he was happy that we were doing this documentary, and
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  Speaker 1: he was happy to be interviewed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I would have to ask Fish...
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  Speaker 2: this question myself and, uh, but, but I'm curious just
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  Speaker 2: from your observations and talking to him, how much did
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  Speaker 2: that football national championship mean to him last year? Because he,
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  Speaker 2: he called a lot of, uh, to put it kindly
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  Speaker 2: lean years. I have, I have this coach come in, uh, and,
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  Speaker 2: and go to the college football playoff in his first
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  Speaker 2: year and then go undefeated 16 and Oh, he's called
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  Speaker 2: an undefeated. He called the last undefeated, basketball national championship
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  Speaker 2: in 1976. Now he's called the most recent, uh, undefeated
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  Speaker 2: season in college football. That's, that's pretty special.
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  Speaker 1: It really, um, is, and, uh, I don't have to speculate.
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  Speaker 1: He says it himself in the documentary that the football
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  Speaker 1: success rejuvenated him. I mean, for all I know, he'd
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  Speaker 1: be retired by now. And, uh, He certainly hasn't given
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  Speaker 1: me any indication that he's planning to retire anytime soon. So, well,
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  Speaker 1: who knows how long he'll keep going.
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  Speaker 2: Did you ask him that? I mean, people ask me
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  Speaker 2: that all the time, and I don't know how to
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  Speaker 2: answer it. I mean, I think I see him on
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  Speaker 2: press row at games and talk to him. The thing
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  Speaker 2: about him is I don't feel like he's aged at all.
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  Speaker 2: I see him every time. He looks like he's been
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  Speaker 2: out of the golf course a little bit. He's got
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  Speaker 2: a nice tan and he looks like he's ready to
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  Speaker 2: go for 15 more years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have some golf video of him in the
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  Speaker 1: dock and a pretty nice swing. I know much about golf,
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  Speaker 1: but It sure looked smooth to me, especially for somebody
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  Speaker 1: who is about to turn 80. Yeah, I did. I
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  Speaker 1: asked a lot of people, you know, how long do
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  Speaker 1: you think it will go? How long does Don think
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  Speaker 1: it will go? I have... Well, I can't say I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea, but I suppose I can speculate that he...
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't said, oh, one more year. Now he's about
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  Speaker 1: to turn 80. I don't know if that's a milestone
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  Speaker 1: or not. Now, I don't think it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: another five or 10 years. That's my speculation. That's not
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  Speaker 1: something he said. That's my speculation after doing all this.
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  Speaker 1: But we have people in the films, heck, Signetti too.
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  Speaker 1: talking about how many more years he could go on.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, when we showed Don the doc on last
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  Speaker 1: Friday and Cignetti said, oh, I think he could go
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  Speaker 1: another 10 or 15 years. And Don said something like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: think again, Kurt. So it's, who knows?
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  Speaker 2: So what are you expecting out of the, uh, the
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  Speaker 2: event at assembly hall? And I know you've also got
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  Speaker 2: some other screenings around the state that I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: give some of those, uh, locations and dates as well,
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  Speaker 2: but just what, what are you expecting out of the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the screen tonight at assembly hall? And, uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what do you hope people get out of this, this film?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hope a lot of people, um, come out
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  Speaker 1: of course Don's going to be there with his wife
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  Speaker 1: and some of his family one of his sons is
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  Speaker 1: the head football coach at Edgewood High School and he
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  Speaker 1: actually has a really poignant moment during the film and
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  Speaker 1: what I hope people get out of it is maybe
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  Speaker 1: sort of a verification that what you think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a pretty good guy, really is bad. There's some,
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  Speaker 1: a former player in the film says there's no fake
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  Speaker 1: in him. And I think that's part of his appeal too.
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  Speaker 1: And that's certainly what I, what I took away. from
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  Speaker 1: the reporting. And, uh, I'm pretty sure folks who see this, um,
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  Speaker 1: if not tomorrow or tonight, uh, or if not tomorrow on,
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  Speaker 1: on WTIU, they'll, they'll see this film and think the
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  Speaker 1: same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, absolutely. So tonight, 7 PM assembly hall, if you
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  Speaker 2: can't make it out there, uh, uh, Friday night at
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  Speaker 2: six 30, I believe it'll be on WTIU also online
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  Speaker 2: at PBS potentially.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, pbs.org. Um, you might have to jump through some hoops, uh,
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  Speaker 1: to get to get to it at that point to
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  Speaker 1: get to the live stream. And I just found out
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  Speaker 1: about that today, but eventually it will be online, uh,
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  Speaker 1: free of course, we're, we're public media. Um, and, uh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to, uh, we have some, uh, screenings in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: some town. We have Spencer, uh, Nashville, Mitchell, uh, I
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  Speaker 1: think Greencastle at DePauw. We're going to do one there.
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  Speaker 1: Don's grandson is a football player at DePauw. Um, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do a screening there. So we have those, um,
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  Speaker 1: and the, uh, IU Alumni Association, uh, is behind this
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to encourage some of the chapters in
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  Speaker 1: various cities to use the film at a meeting or
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  Speaker 1: show it there. The IU Alumni Club of Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: or the IU Alumni Club of Denver. So I really
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  Speaker 1: think that it's going to get a lot of attention
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  Speaker 1: And I think Don will probably even be surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to watch it. Can't wait to see it, Mark.
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  Speaker 1: I know you did.
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  Speaker 2: If it's anything like the work that you did for
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  Speaker 2: such a long time at the Indy Star, I know
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be terrific. And you did a great
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  Speaker 2: job there over your career with investigative reporting. Some of
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  Speaker 2: those dates that you mentioned, I know you mentioned some
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  Speaker 2: of the cities. I just want to give these dates
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  Speaker 2: and times quickly for people if they want to make
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  Speaker 2: it out. September 2nd, 6 p.m. at Yes Cinema in Columbus, Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: The Tivoli Theater, September 9th at 6.30 p.m. in Spencer, Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Brown County Public Library at 6, September 15th in Nashville, Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: The Mitchell Opera House, September 20th at 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: In Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned DePaul University Theater. It'll be there September
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  Speaker 2: 22nd at 6.30 p.m. That's in Greencastle. I imagine it
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  Speaker 2: could be added in some other places as well, also
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  Speaker 2: available to stream. So I know you're excited. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of hard work has been put into this. So hopefully
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  Speaker 2: you have a great turnout later today at Assembly Hall
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  Speaker 2: and looking forward, as I said, to seeing it. Thanks, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: for taking the time. Really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Alex. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely had a fun conversation here. Thank you, as always,
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