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Furness Show 8-10: Drake Thomas, Mollywhop Monday, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
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  Speaker 2: choose Chill Seahawks training camp Today it's practice number fourteen thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: with Saturday the annual fan fest at lumin Field. Jadarian
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  Speaker 2: Price did not practice. We'll see if he's out there
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  Speaker 2: later on. Today. Seahawks are probly the hosted Lions first
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  Speaker 2: round pick Terry and Arnold a free agent visit for
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  Speaker 2: the second time yesterday, but he was cut by Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Remember he's got eight felonies against them. He's visiting the
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  Speaker 2: Saints today. MS have sunk to the lowest point of
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  Speaker 2: all season. I waited for this, just for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Seven games under five hundred. They are not good. Swept
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  Speaker 2: by Tampa Bay over the weekend their fiftieth anniversary weekends.
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  Speaker 2: Scored four runs in the three losses, eight runs total
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  Speaker 2: in the six game homestand they won one in five.
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  Speaker 2: Sounders went on Sunday Storm lose on Sunday Rain win
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  Speaker 2: as well. Drake Thomas is getting stock by. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: the show started right now, live.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go kicking things off in a
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  Speaker 2: big way with Seahawk linebacker Drake Thomas. How about this.
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  Speaker 2: This is two times in a row we've done this
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  Speaker 2: when stuff's worked right for people who missing. We were
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  Speaker 2: gonna have Drake on in. I think it was OTA's
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  Speaker 2: right and we had a power surge. Everything went hell
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  Speaker 2: in the handbasket. He's sitting there. He's client enough to
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  Speaker 2: come back over and talk later. I want to catch
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  Speaker 2: up with your drink camp. How you doing. I'm doing great, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I great. Appreciate you guys, having appreciate you having me.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about the big guy next.
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  Speaker 3: To me, gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we've got let's let's get to just I
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  Speaker 2: want to go back in time a little bit because
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  Speaker 2: when I had you on before you had not gone
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  Speaker 2: through what we just saw last week, the hard knock stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the ring ceremony. Yeah, for a guy who was an
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  Speaker 2: undrafted free agent released by all teams the Raiders, comes here,
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  Speaker 2: gets hurt and then finds his way as a starter
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  Speaker 2: on a Super Bowl champion. When that thing came down,
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  Speaker 2: what did it mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: It was surreal? Honestly, it kind of felt like everything
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  Speaker 3: had built up to that moment to get the ring,
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  Speaker 3: Like you win the parade and you just like a
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  Speaker 3: waiting game and for it to you know, finally come
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  Speaker 3: down from the ceiling like that. That was That was
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  Speaker 3: pretty awesome. It was surreal moment and it was really
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  Speaker 3: really fun.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone always asks these questions. I'll ask you the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: What do we do with the rank? Where's it at?
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever look at it? It's just hidden away
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  Speaker 2: in a safe is It's like, like, what cause it's
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  Speaker 2: it's the coolest thing in the world to get as
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  Speaker 2: an athlete, But then it's not like it's the most
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  Speaker 2: useful thing in the world either.
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  Speaker 3: Can't wear that thing. It's it's too big to just
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  Speaker 3: wear on a normal day, right, It's it's hidden away
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  Speaker 3: somewhere that and you know no one can find it.
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  Speaker 2: It opens and closes it does how does it? How
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  Speaker 2: do you open it is?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a twist on the top and you
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  Speaker 3: just pull it off and it can actually be a
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  Speaker 3: pendant for like a necklace or something.
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  Speaker 2: So it's probably easier to wear than ring. Yeah, although
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like leaning over and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's happy.
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  Speaker 2: You'd be like old school Dion Sanders or something. Drake
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  Speaker 2: Thomas with us right now, camp underway. One of the
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  Speaker 2: things I think a lot of people, First of all,
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  Speaker 2: did you watch Had Knocks? Did you watch it? I
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  Speaker 2: saw bits and pieces and piece like, it's interesting different guys,
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  Speaker 2: different guys are way into it, different guys or not.
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  Speaker 2: I figured you'd be a guy to be like, eah, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: I out of the substitute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things though, I think this is kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting that we've talked about on our station and
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  Speaker 2: on the show, and even when we saw you guys
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  Speaker 2: during OTA's and mini camp compared to twenty fourteen when
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  Speaker 2: that team in one of Super Bowl and came back
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  Speaker 2: here like you had no doubt you walk out here
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  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I think it was the personalities they had.
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  Speaker 2: You knew that was a Super Bowl championship team. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's done a great job of having you guys just
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  Speaker 2: kind of maybe almost put that. Okay, we did that.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's a new year. It feels like it's just
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  Speaker 2: business as usual. You guys don't come across in that way.
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  Speaker 2: How hard is that to kind of say, hey man,
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  Speaker 2: one of the Super Bowl champions but we're just gonna
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  Speaker 2: keep moving forward here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that hard, honestly, Like, we have
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  Speaker 3: so many people that are so driven and there's so
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  Speaker 3: much to accomplish right where we're constantly chasing, like looking
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  Speaker 3: to improve. And that's just been you know who we've
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  Speaker 3: been as a as a team, as a defense, as
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  Speaker 3: a unit, you know whatever. It is, like that's the
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  Speaker 3: message from the top downs to keep on improving and
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  Speaker 3: chasing well, you know, whatever comes next. So uh, going
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  Speaker 3: forward from that, it's like it's no different, right, So
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  Speaker 3: we're just constantly chasing improvement and finding any way that
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  Speaker 3: we can get better. So it's not like we're looking
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  Speaker 3: in the rear view mirror at what happened. It's you know,
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  Speaker 3: onward and forward to to what's next.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of beautiful thing about sports, right, Like there's
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  Speaker 2: always a motivation. Is any that motivation come from the
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  Speaker 2: outside In this sense, you're defending champions and yet I
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  Speaker 2: mean depends on what who you hear from or listen
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  Speaker 2: to or talk to. There's a lot more talk about
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  Speaker 2: the Rams and other teams around around the NFL than
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. I know you're a guy who doesn't mind
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  Speaker 2: flying under the radar, and others are too. Is that
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  Speaker 2: okay with you, guys, or do you feel slighted at all?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody really is worried about what anybody's
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  Speaker 3: saying outside of this building. I don't think that we
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  Speaker 3: don't We don't need uh, you know, poster board material
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  Speaker 3: to go out and give us motivation to go do
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  Speaker 3: what we do. It's just who we are. We built
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  Speaker 3: that and it's become a part of our DNA. So
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  Speaker 3: we're going to be the same no matter what. Let's
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  Speaker 3: talk about the defense. You're three with Mike McDonald's and
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  Speaker 3: I know always when he and you were in the
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  Speaker 3: Raiders camp up until that end of that first training camp,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, no twenty four, No twenty four. Ye were here,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah twenty four his first year, right, yeah, you're here
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  Speaker 2: us for a year. I heard so much about communication
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  Speaker 2: and how it was like, hey, it takes a little
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  Speaker 2: while to kind of get his defense. Obviously last year
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  Speaker 2: it all came together. Is there a comfort level now
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  Speaker 2: with what he wants to do and what Derday wants
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  Speaker 2: to do or are they always constantly putting new stuff in?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like training camp is different than the season
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  Speaker 3: because you're not game planning for anybody. You're kind of
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  Speaker 3: just running your calls and trying to get reps at
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  Speaker 3: what we do. And then when you get to a season,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of cleaned up and you understand the whys
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  Speaker 3: behind calls and the reason for things a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: like the play call sheet is a little more clear.
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  Speaker 3: So right now, I mean there's comfort because you know,
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  Speaker 3: three years in the system, I do know the playbook,
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  Speaker 3: but it's sometimes it's harder in a training camp when
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  Speaker 3: you're not game planning and prepping for the other team
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  Speaker 3: that that you're going to play for.
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  Speaker 2: You is there a comfort level at all? And I
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  Speaker 2: know this is gonna sound goofy, but is there like
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  Speaker 2: you're an established NFL starting linebacker. Now you couldn't say
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  Speaker 2: that a year ago sitting here. How different is that
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  Speaker 2: for you? I know, you don't attack you still attack
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  Speaker 2: it differently or hard every day, But I mean that's God.
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  Speaker 2: I talked to tyle Cot about this. It's like there's
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  Speaker 2: a difference between a year ago for you guys than
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  Speaker 2: it is today.
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  Speaker 3: I think it helps. Uh, there's some confidence that comes
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  Speaker 3: with that, Uh, knowing that you've done it before and
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  Speaker 3: you've been there before. But at the same time, like
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  Speaker 3: mentality wise and approach wise, and nothing really changes from
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  Speaker 3: that aspect, but from a confidence level of knowing where
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  Speaker 3: what you can do and that you are able to
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  Speaker 3: compete and do it at a high level, I think
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  Speaker 3: that's huge.
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  Speaker 2: How about just the chemistry between you and Earnest.
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  Speaker 3: It's great, you know, the being able to be there
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  Speaker 3: with him again other year and develop that relationship and
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  Speaker 3: play next to him, and there's only you know upwards, right,
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  Speaker 3: it's only going to make the improvements.
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  Speaker 2: What do you What is it about him that that
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  Speaker 2: kind of makes him who he is, and whether it
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  Speaker 2: be a top hunter player and all pro and kind
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  Speaker 2: of a leader on that defense. What is the little
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  Speaker 2: intangible things that separate him.
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  Speaker 3: I think is an intensity his competitive nature, like and
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  Speaker 3: he's just honestly a great dude. He's he's a fun
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  Speaker 3: guy to be around. When it's time to work, he's
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  Speaker 3: working when you know we can have some fun, he's
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  Speaker 3: having fun. So he's just all around, like he's very
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  Speaker 3: well rounded as a person. And I think that shows,
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  Speaker 3: like whether he's on the field and he's the voice
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  Speaker 3: of the defense, or I see him with his son
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  Speaker 3: and he's being a dad, Like, it's really cool to
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  Speaker 3: see he's a really well rounded person.
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  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas with us for a couple more moments here
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  Speaker 2: from Seahawk Training Camp, Virginia Mason Athletic Center, infornesced with
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  Speaker 2: you this afternoon. The the offense, new offensive coordinator three
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  Speaker 2: and three years, but a lot of similarities. You're going
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  Speaker 2: against these guys every day. Let me just talk about
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  Speaker 2: a couple guys specifically. You've seen no Jadarian has been
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  Speaker 2: missed a couple of days, but you've seen the first
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  Speaker 2: round pick at running back. What jumps out at you with.
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  Speaker 3: Him his explosiveness, It's like one cut and he's at
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  Speaker 3: top speed. He his acceleration to the holes. It's really
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  Speaker 3: really impressive. And then his ability out of the backfield
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  Speaker 3: as a pass catcher is also really impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's when people were questioning coming out you don't see.
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  Speaker 3: That, No, that's all I think. That's like a strong
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  Speaker 3: suit honestly.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, can you talk about George Halaney a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: because that's a guy that I think is kind of
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  Speaker 2: falls into the Okada Thomas. There's a lot of you
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  Speaker 2: guys like that on this roster where I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald gives a you know what about where a
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  Speaker 2: guy was drafted, where he played, or anything else. Can
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  Speaker 2: you play good you're in. Alani's one of those guys,
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  Speaker 2: had a nice career, got heard at Boise State, still
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  Speaker 2: was beating out Ashton genty when he was there. But
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy that just clawed. You have to go
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  Speaker 2: against him. Probably pastor of Arstrils all those things, talking
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about what he does.
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  Speaker 3: He's just a good football player all around. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 3: good athlete, he's good out of the backfield, good hands,
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  Speaker 3: and he's super tough. If you watch him on like
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  Speaker 3: special teams the past couple of years, he's always making plays.
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  Speaker 3: He's tackling the ball. I think he has a rugby
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  Speaker 3: background and he's just like a tough player. He's just
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  Speaker 3: all around football player. So uh, and George. I love
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  Speaker 3: watching George run the ball and he's fun to compete
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  Speaker 3: against every single day, and training.
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  Speaker 2: With the one on one pass rush, drills with him
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  Speaker 2: with the running like he leaves away with the running backs,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's it's fun watching him. Coach Hammick gets
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  Speaker 2: after a little bit and those things, doesn't he Yeah, fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this. Overall, you look at
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  Speaker 2: that defense and it's it's largely intact. You lose a
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  Speaker 2: couple of guys. Obviously Kobe and Enrique are gone, boy
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  Speaker 2: and Mafey's gone, but you had a couple of guys.
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  Speaker 2: Fowler comes in. Uh, we're seeing a kid in Riley
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  Speaker 2: Mills that we saw a glimpse of last year. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: explain to this. You're in watching these guys who excites
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  Speaker 2: you amongst that the group of some of the new guys.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, both of those guys are great additions.
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  Speaker 2: What's right? What is Riley? What is it about him?
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  Speaker 2: Because there's he he looks the part.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Riley's just a big, strong like dominating guy. Like
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  Speaker 3: whoever lines up against him, like they're gonna feel Riley
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  Speaker 3: Like he's just strong, he's physical, He's going to impose
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  Speaker 3: his will against whoever he's lined up against it. And he's
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  Speaker 3: fun to watch them during training camp and play behind
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Then Leonard Williams doesn't seem to age.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, he gets better?
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  Speaker 2: What is with that guy? Like it's like like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the secret sauce is with that guy,
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  Speaker 2: but it's amazing. Is yeah, Yeah, the older he gets,
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  Speaker 2: the better he gets. What I'll wrap it up with this,
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  Speaker 2: Drake Drake Thomas with me? What's next for you?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What, Like, you've taken a pretty massive leap from twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three coming out of school. We talked about it
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  Speaker 2: last year. I mean shockingly people looked at your size
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  Speaker 2: and said, well, we're not going to draft this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's making plays in Santa Clara, He's making plays
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  Speaker 2: all over the place. He's starting for the best defense
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, which is awesome. What's that next step
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  Speaker 2: for you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just try to focus and and be
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  Speaker 3: the best version of myself every single day. I just
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  Speaker 3: tried to take you know, the same approach every single day.
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  Speaker 3: Try to find something that I want to focus in
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  Speaker 3: on and get better at that day, and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: at the end of it, you know, you see how
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  Speaker 3: much better you get from it. But I don't really
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  Speaker 3: look forward too far ahead about I want to have this,
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  Speaker 3: this and that. I just want to I want to
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  Speaker 3: be the best version of myself for my team and
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  Speaker 3: and help in any way that I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Have you been miked up yet for hard knocks, I
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  Speaker 4: have not come on now, No, I haven't had it.
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  Speaker 4: You'd be good. We'll see, I think, wouldn't I think
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  Speaker 4: you'd be good. I mean I didn't talk about football.
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  Speaker 4: I'm communicating on the field. I don't have not like
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  Speaker 4: a huge character, big personality or anything like that. I
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  Speaker 4: want to see Barner, Yeah, yeah, that'd be a good one.
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  Speaker 4: Is Able, Yeah, Gray would be another good one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of guys out there. Well, the new kid,
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  Speaker 2: Bud Clark. Oh yeah, but it's fun. He talks a lot,
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  Speaker 2: great personality. Great. I sat with him last week and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, if you're having a bad day, go
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  Speaker 2: find Bud Clark.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, for sure, he's been awesome to kind of
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  Speaker 3: get to know and talk to some.
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  Speaker 5: So of you.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing this again. I know you've been
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  Speaker 2: a few of these and manager of violence. What's that about.
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  Speaker 2: That's a T shirt? Yeah, put him in our lockers
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  Speaker 2: last year. Okay, I gotta get a shot of that
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  Speaker 2: here for a little social media people. Let's see give
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  Speaker 2: me a smile. Look at that on air producing Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get the defensive guys to smile too often. Hey, listen, seriously,
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate it. Come by, have a great season.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk again. I'll bother you again. Is that okay?
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  Speaker 3: It sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, Drake Thomas. We'll take a quick break.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back with more. Nine three point three KJFM.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness at the Virginia Mason Athletics
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get the thing going here. It's boy
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  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, very much on time today. Just came right out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to Travis. I'm used to having guys ten five, ten,
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  Speaker 2: twelve minutes after the hour, he was here right on time, man,
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  Speaker 2: Well punctually you could tell when you talk to Drake
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  Speaker 2: Thomas if that guy he's the on time guy, right
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  Speaker 2: like he's the on time guys they see Tylecott is
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  Speaker 2: sitting over doing something else right now. We're joking last
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  Speaker 2: week with tyle Cotta. Tylecott is a guy that sits
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  Speaker 2: in the front row.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: If you watch Hard Knocks in the auditorium, he's in
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  Speaker 2: the front row right there. He's always like the first
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  Speaker 2: guy in there. I think Drake Thomas has a same
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  Speaker 2: that samem o to him. And those are the guys
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  Speaker 2: undrafted free agents. Man, they do whatever it takes. And
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate Drake coming on. Man, he's a just
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  Speaker 2: watching him walk away or kind of you know, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of look at him. It's like that dude's a
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  Speaker 2: starting linebacker in the NFL and a damn good one,
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  Speaker 2: and and yet he is not a big dude at all.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we had we had one of the largest
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  Speaker 2: starting linebackers forever, kJ Wrights, every bit of six or
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  Speaker 2: four and every bit of two fifty. But I mean
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  Speaker 2: just just you know, cut out of grantited kJ was
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas is what seven eight inches six seven inches
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: shorter and probably good twenty pounds the less, but gets
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: the most out of it. Plays with Thurnest Jones. That's
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: a good little tandem right there on the inside for
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. And his stories. Drake's stories are great. When
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: we told it a few times last year, and we
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: told her last in in June, I mean, I just
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: I still find it fascinating to me. And this is
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: why some teams are who they are cut by the
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: Raiders of all teams, like a bad Raiders team cut
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: this guy and come to Seattle and they pick him
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: up and played the one year. His first year in
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Seattle was twenty twenty three, and he was hurt most
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: of the season. In twenty twenty three, he was on
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: the injured reserve list from November twelfth on inactive before that,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: didn't really do much. He was a special teams guy.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: And then last year just blew up last season and
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: ends up starting fourteen to seventeen games in the regular season,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: all three games in the playoffs and had a really
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: nice season for Seattle. That six quarterback hits had three
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: and a half sacks last season. Did Drake Thomas as well?
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: He had ten plus tackles for loss, So yeah, we
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: enjoy talking to him. All right, I've put it off
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: long enough. Seahawks, by the way, practice here starts in
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: about thirty five forty minutes, so we'll keep an eye
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: on what's going on there. The big thing to keep
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: an eye on, obviously is Jidari and Price playing today,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: so we'll be watching for that. No fans technically here today,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: although it's USA a day, so there's a strong presence
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: of our men and women in the services, Coast Guard
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: and what else I see Coast Guard, Army. I believe
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: her here today.
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: So annoyed by the Navy guys there.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, Greg's always annoyed by somebody that's not
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: from West Point or the Army. But but yeah, so
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: they were, so they're here. Outside of that, there's no fans.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: It's nice and quiet here today. So it's and I
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: say nice and quiet. I like having the fans out here,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: gives you little extra juice. But but yeah, no, no
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: fans out here today, so we'll keep an eye on things.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: All right. Let me let's get into the baseball team.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of levels to get into, and we
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: will Molly wop at one today we'll take your text
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: messages four nine four five one on the takomadage text
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: line four nine four five one. I did laugh trip.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: You'll get a kick out of this. Travis Smoker, by
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the way, and today Andrews is off the I get it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: When you go to a game, you get an email afterwards,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: and so I get the email. Went, I went yesterday,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: My wife and I went yesterday. Uh the email. The
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: heading of the email is how was the Mariner's game? Oh? Well,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: do you really want to know?
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: That's a doozy of a question.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, Ian, thanks coming out to the marriage game. We
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: always looking four ways to improve the experience team in
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the park. In that spirit, we appreciate if you'll take
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: our fan feedback survey and survey and share your thoughts.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: It's only two questions. How was my overall experience of
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: the game on August ninth yesterday? God, I don't know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, I had a couple of beers, we
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: had some food.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: It was good.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Those things are good. Game presentation was fine. The game sucked.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: We scored one run. So how was my overall experience?
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give it a I'm gonna give it
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: a five? Is that good? Is that is that fair?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? A five. Let's see what's the next question here
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: on a scale? Uh? Please tell us why you selected
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: five because you lost. I don't need to go any
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: for mother than that. Listen, I'll joking aside. Here's the thing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of different things this weekend that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: we can discuss, and we can kind of almost go chronological,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: but let's just wrap it up with this. On the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: fiftieth anniversary weekend celebrating this baseball organization, they laid the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: current team, the twenty twenty six team laid an absolute
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: egg and just for them to do what they did
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: or not what they do, what they did offensively is pathetic.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Four total runs in the final four games of the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: homestand including the shutout on Thursday when they got smacked
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: eleven nothing but four runs yesterday was strange. We keep
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: looking for the catalysts. What's gonna change that, what's gonna
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: change things, what's gonna turn things around? And I'm sure
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: if I look on the text line right now, and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I'll probably even do that at twelve forty five today
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: because we ale extra time, I'm sure fire Dan Wilson
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be the front and center prevalent all
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: over the place. I understand that. I understand the sentiment. Guys.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It just unless I'm missing something, it's not gonna happen.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Like they're not going to fire Dan Wilson. This is
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: not what they do. And I know people were saying, well,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: now that we've had the fiftieth anniversary celebration, then Dan
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Wilson can get fired. I just don't. I think it
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: goes well beyond the manager.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Listen, Chris, Nate, Chuck Powell on our morning show, others
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Softy have all said it's time to make a change
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: with the manager. And you know, here's the thing, if
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you are truly desperate, probably maybe you would sacrifice one
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of your top fifty players of all time. Now that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: the ceremony is over and you've done that, he got
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a chance to reunite with his manager, Loop Panella. Now
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you could do it right in theory, who are you
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: going to replace him with? Maniacta. I think if there's
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: an issue with Dan Wilson, it goes far beyond just
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the manager. Is probably deeper than that, in the entire
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, not just the manager. That would include the
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: bench coach, that would include the pitching coach. They've already
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: fired the third string hitting coach. The issues go far,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: far deeper. They're the lead story today and we're sitting
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: here at Seahawks at training camp. Usually this time of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the year, it's the Seahawks. Unfortunately it's it's the Seahawks,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: or it's the Mariners, and not for the right reasons.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Swept and a season low seven games under five hundred,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: outscored forty four two in the nine games during the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: home stand, shutout twice, four total runs the final four
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: games of the homestand three point eighty eight runs per
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: game this season, last in baseball on pace. Now, this
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is what just jumped out at me. They're on pace
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: for one of the worst offensive sea in fifty years
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: of Mariner baseball. And as we well know, in those
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: fifty years, there have been some really bad years. When
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you're talking about a team that's never been to the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: World Series, there's been some horrific seasons. I would ask
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: this four, nine, four or five one. Have you ever
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: been more disappointed in a Mariner's team than you are
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in this one? There is a lot of acrimony and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are just like flat out pissed
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: off at this team, like mad at this team. I'll
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: use a different term, disappointed. I've never been more disappointed
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: in a baseball team. And we say it all the time,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm at times on an island,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and this island of being hopeful and optimistic island will
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: call it. I feel like I'm sitting there on Mariner's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: optimistic island and I'm by myself. Everyone else has left.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: They're still in it sort of. But the way things
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: have gone to this point in the season, what leads
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you to believe that they can get on a hot streak?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Nothing like that's the question, And people ask me that
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: all the time. Well, I mean, I get it in
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you know, they're only three and a half out of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a wildcard spot, and you know, in four games out
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: of first place. Yeah, and you would think, okay, get
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: on a hot streak. But they have shown a complete
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: outside of one little eight game stretch, in ability to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: get on a hot streak. The other issue now is
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Texas holds down that final wildcard spot. From Texas, you
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: go Texas, Detroit, Minnesota, Cleveland, Baltimore before you get to Seattle.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So you got a lot of teams before you even
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: get to the Maritors, before you even get I mean,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it's so you've got one, two, three, four, plus Texas,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: which is the third wildcard team. There's five teams and
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: if you include Seattle, there's six teams battling for one
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: wildcard spot. Because I think we can con see that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Boston and the Yankees are both going to get in,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: right proud, you can probably can see that right that
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: wildcard Yankees, Red Sox, they're gonna get in. So those
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: teams are going to get in. Seattle is with Detroit, Texas, Minnesota, Cleveland,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and Baltimore only there's only room for one of those
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: teams as a wildcard. And it's not that daunting to
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: be three and a half out, but it is when
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: you look at everybody else ahead of you, Baltimore, Cleveland, Minnesota, Troit,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Texas all ahead of you right now, that's the that's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the issue. It's no longer just trying to catch one team,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: or it's no longer trying to hold onto one spot
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you're trying to catch, you're trying to leap frog teams
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: as well. What happened over the weekend against the best
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: team in baseball, at least the best team in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: American League, but one of the top two or three
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: teams in baseball overall.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Tampa.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It just was inexcusable. Guys, it just was from a
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: baseball standpoint, and there's just something wrong. So I ask,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is it the most disappointed you've been with a baseball team? Yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the answer is yes, disappointed for sure. Why are we
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: disappointed in this team? Well, we're disappointed because the expectations
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: were so high. My god, Colt Emerson's getting eviscerated. He's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: getting crushed by people in this town because you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: it's it's like, hey, it's time to send him down.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: He's hurting you in the lineup. He's he's hitting forty
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: or so points higher than Cal Rawley is this year.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: We sent Cal down too. I mean, I make the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: argument Col's Cow's worse. Col's worse than Cold. Yeah, he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: worse than Cold.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Like so like we can, we can point fingers all
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we want. This team is only gonna be as good
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: as your stars. Naylor's getting on base and he had
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the two home runs on Saturday. I got a big
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: argument with my daughter on Saturday at her house watching
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the game. She's like trying to tell me how how
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: good Naylor is. I'm like, he's awful, and then boom,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: he hits two home runs. I looked like the fool
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: uh comes back? It's a single yesterday and then after
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: that nothing Yesterday was the most disappointing for me over
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the weekend for a couple of reasons.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: Though.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Hancock gets in all kinds of trouble in that first inning,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: bases loaded, jam nobody out, like that's the recipe to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: fall behind big early and find yourself in a huge hole,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and he gets out of it. Kevin Arrow was nothing yesterday,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: like they took him to clinic. Man struck out at
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: two three times. He didn't have a hit. I left
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a ton of runners on base, including in that first inning.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: You get an all kinds of Taylor. Ward comes up,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: smashes a triple off the wall that's completely misplayed. In fact,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the Rays had two errors yesterday another one that probably
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: should have been in an error. They were just at
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: times a clown show in the field. Gave you every
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: opportunity and yet you did nothing with it. You scored
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the one run and that was it. I that was like,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: just bounce back, get the one Salvager win. All of
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a sudden things look a lot different, a lot different,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and instead you've got a four game losing stream cutting
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the Yank to take on the Yankees in New York.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: So for me to this point and it can change,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it's the most disappointing season I can remember as Americ fan.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I because of the expectations. I'm I'm not angry. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: know some people are. I'm not angry. I'm just disappointed.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm disappointed, and I think I'm more disappointed in something
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that we could kind of see and you know, Softi's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: talked about it on social media. Others who covered have
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: kind of insinuated it. I hear this from fans. They
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: look like they're just dead emotionally. There's nothing there. They
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: don't have a team that's filled with raw, raw guys.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: The one raw raw guy, the one guy that had
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the ability to pick everybody else up and pick up
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a clubhouse. They let him go and that was Gino.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: They let him walk, and Gino walking. I tell the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: story a lot. I'll tell it again. Three years ago.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I'm at a game on a Sunday and they needed
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: desperately needed to win. They lost the first two I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: think it was to Detroit and that series, and Gino
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was struggling, but so was everybody else. And Scott's Service
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: went up to him and he said, hey, man, I
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: need you. I don't if you hit, that's great, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: just need you. I need you to get these guys going.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I need you to say something to the clubhouse. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: need you to be Gino good vibes. Only I need something,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and he goes, I know you're struggling. I need you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to be selfless here, because a lot of times the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: guys are struggling in baseball, they're just they're gonna be.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Theyre going to his shell. I think we're seeing that
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: from what I understand just talking to somebody today who's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: covering the game yesterday. Sounds like Cal's that way right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't feel like he's the guy that
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: should be saying anything. You know, I get it, but
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he's still a team leader. But Gino was the guy
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that that Tuesday he got him going, or that Sunday,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I should say he got him going. In fact, he
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: had a couple of hits that day. Bryce Miller was
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: just on the mound with sensational I'll never forget it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: And Service afterwards is like, yeah, that was Geno. Man.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I talked to Gino. I needed him, I really needed him.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I need somebody every clubhouse house. They don't have. That
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: guy doesn't sound like, does that mean that's going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: change them from being seven games under five hundred to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: seven games over? Not necessarily, but at this point you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: need something to happen, and they have nothing. They got
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: nothing going on right now, and that's unfortunate. And when
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you look at guys like cal just struggling mightily. When
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you look at Naylor, who finally get I mean his
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: first home run since at home since June first, was
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Saturday night, he added a second one, and good for him,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: they still fell short. Like, even with that happened, they
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: still fell short in that game. You're starting pitching has
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: given you a chance by and large almost every game
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: this season, I say almost every game. I know it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: not that's a blanket statement. You're starting pitching in this series, though,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: by and large gave you a pretty good chance. Even Thursday.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: You were in it for a while. The eleven nothing
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: scores will not indicative of what happened because they gave
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: up a ton of runs in the final two innings. This,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: this pitching staff deserves better, This fan base is better,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and it has to come from the offense. And now, unfortunately,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you go take on a team that's fourteen games above
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: five hundred to the Yankees. In fact, we went through
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: this on Friday. Your next series all involved teams that
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: currently right now are in a playoff position. Everybody you're
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: gonna see here coming up, yep, Yankee Tampa Bay was
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a playoff team. Yankees, Houston, Milwaukee, the Cubs, Philadelphia, three
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: first place teams and all would be playoff teams right now.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: That's your next month coming up.
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: And you were at home.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: You had opportunities and you could not get it done.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And that's just massively disappointing on every level. It's disappointing.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And so that's the word I use, is disappointing. This
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to me is the most disappointing Mariner season to date
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that we've ever had. Fiftieth anniversary celebration all weekend, let's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: get going. This could be the catalyst Alvin Davis saying
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: we believe in you. Let's go, pointing to the dugout
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and then just staring back at mister marrinwan stairs, going eh,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I mean,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that's that's what they did, stare back with blank stares. Yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: we had nothing. We got nothing in the tank, man.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So I'll use disappointed as a word. I'm not even
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: angry anymore. We might get some anger at one o'clock
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: with the Molly Whoppers. I'm not angry anymore. I'm just disappointed,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: just from flat out disappointed in this baseball.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: That's almost worse.
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: Though, like when your pet said, I'm not mad, I'm disappointed.
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: That was the worst feeling in the world.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And it almost And I guess when I say that,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it's almost a word that sounds defeated. H Like I'm defeated.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I sat there yesterday in the sun, I'm like, okay,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: just get something going, and I think, God, they showed
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: some highlights yesterday, trave you know Col's home run that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: clinched the first playoff spot, you know in forever that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: was in what twenty twenty two? Right, they showed that,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the Gino home run last year. Those are just like
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the recent ones. They showed Col sixtieth looking at that place,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: just humming them in, knowing how loud it can be.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: It was dead yesterday. Yeah, and you know, I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the other thing that was disappointing yesterday not a great
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: crowd in this sense. I didn't see what they announced
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: upper deck by and large, maybe a third full. I
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: was a little surprised by that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: I was.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised by that. All right,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: we'll take a break, come back to more. Nine three
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• 30:28
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  Speaker 2: Parlor back in the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Just walked by,
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  Speaker 2: I said, hiding him real quick. Messed with me a
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: little bit. Travis didn't appreciate that. But that's okay because
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, hey, Dave, Dave said, Dave Pearson's the VP Communications.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Oh Dave said, combined an interview with you, which I
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: knew was total nonsense and bs and he comes in
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and fakes like he's gonna sit down, and no, that
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  Speaker 2: was not it. So nice nicely done. John well played,
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  Speaker 2: Fella well played.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: We we just spent I just spent the last fifteen
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: minutes killing the baseball team. Let's let's talk about something
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: good for a second. The fiftieth anniversary was great.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: It just was.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Now we can nitpick, and rightfully so, all the top
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: fifty of all time. Jeff Nelson not being in it stinks.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Just there's and if you want to say who do
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: you take off, Well, I don't even want to go
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: down that road. I'm not going to do that because
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: there's an obvious one you take off, maybe two obvious ones.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not even I don't want to do that. But
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: if it's fifty and you're telling me that Jeff Nelson
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: isn't one of your top fifty of all time, there's
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: something wrong with the list. That screams. And this is
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: what I hate. I hate this, and this is I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: do believe sometimes that this organization can be mariner wise,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: can be a little bit petty, and that's what it
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: feels like. And the funny thing is is pettiness is
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: what got Jeff Nelson traded here when he was outspoken
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: like are we still holding a grudge from twenty two
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to twenty three years ago. How is he not on it?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: How is he not on the list? That makes no
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: sense whatsoever. But let's move on from that. I think
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: more importantly, the entire weekend I mentioned with Greg earlier,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I was old, cynical, old man like the home Run
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: contest with a bunch of dudes that are my age
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: or young or five years younger and fifty year old's hidden.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I could. I want to see each year, sure,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: but I don't care. And yet there I was furiously
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: scrambling to try to figure out to stream it from
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: my phone to my TV, because I wasn't on Mariner's TV,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: at least not on twelve sixty one. It wasn't on
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Apple TV. But I did find it via social media somewhere,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and I ended up watching the damn thing. If Andrews
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: was here, Mogor, he'd be very proud of me. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: was able to stream it on my phone to my television,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So I was actually very proud of myself for that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Impressively I've and I found myself watching it now the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: second each Hero was done and Bucky was done, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: didn't care. Austin Nola Stefan Romero, whatever. Man, we move
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: on from you guys watching the hyphen hit guy. I'm
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: glad he got one out, but you have two out.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That was cool. So that was all right. Saturday Night
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was special. There's nothing. Saturday Night had all the fields
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and I think we go back to the last segment.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: That's why this season so disappointing is because we're Mariners fans.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: We're baseball fans, but we're Mariners fans, and we've been
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: waiting so long for something great to happen, like AKA
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a trip to the World Series, and it just hasn't.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: In fifty years, it hasn't and it doesn't appear it's
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: going to happen this year either. But what we do
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: have in fifty years are some incredible memories of our
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball team, specifically the players and in one
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: case coach AKA the manager and lou and of course
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: the two broadcasters, the late great Dave Niehouse, and seeing
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Rick riz get honored and surprised by being inducted into
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. It will happen next summer, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that announcement for Rizzy was honestly, for me, probably the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: highlight knowing Rick, like so many of us in the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: media do, knowing what a great duty is, what a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: great human just what a great person in her what
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: an asset to our community he's been, and the fact
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: that he carries himself with such great class, and on
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: top of that calls a great game and makes it exciting.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And we've lived vicariously through listening to him on the
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: radio for years. We know what the organization means to him,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: we know what the fans mean to him, and for
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: him to get that surprise is really well done, really
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: well executed by Stanton in company. That was awesome. Lou
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Panella throwing out the first pitch phenomenal, All the feels
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: really awesome, And I think we were all surprised because
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Lou's not is you know, he's he's old and he's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: not the greatest of health. But to see Lou Panella
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: come out there, and I'll tell you a little story,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I think. I don't think I'm speaking out of turn.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I won't get too specific, but actually I'll say it
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: for Mulliwap. I'll say it for the Ullywap. There's a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: good story about Lou and his ex players. I'll get
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to that in the Ullywap segment that someone tipped me
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: off on. But the fiftieth anniversary was great. No Nelly
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Weird and Patty, everything else was fine. Alex Rodriguez being
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: honored and mostly cheered is I think that was cool.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I I know that a lot, and everyone feels differently
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: about different players, and everyone has their own right to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: feel a certain way about somebody. A Rod took the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: money and ran okay, then he got juiced up and
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: never get probably gonna be in the Hall of Fame.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately for him, he's one of the best baseball players
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: of all time, and certainly the last fifty years he
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: made his choices. But to bring him back, he is
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest Mariners of all time, There's no
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: doubt about it. Got ripped off of an MVP season
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: along the way, but bringing a Rod back and hearing
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: eighty percent years, I thought that was a classy move
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: by Mariner fans. Well done. Applaud yourself for that, like
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: because it could have been. It could have been one
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: of those things that was not going to be good
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: and going to be kind of uncomfortable, and it wasn't
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the Riz Lou connection. Seeing guys that I grew up.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I think seeing guys like Mike Moore, who no one's
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: heard of if you're unless you're sixty years old, Rupert Jones,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: your original center field or original All Star for this team,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: everything about it was good and it underscores one once
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: again this as we get ready for Malli wat Monday
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: coming up in a few minutes, it underscores this one
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: more time. This team does things like that, maybe better
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: than anybody in sports. They put on shows they off field,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: whether it's a Jimothy Card Bark in the Park promotion,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Bobblehead night, or an event like a Hall of Fame induction,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ceremony, or a fiftieth anniversary. These guys
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: do it better than anybody. The problem is they don't
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: do it good enough on the field between the lines,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: and that's what really matters to most fans. So it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: cool that we have everything else, but we need more.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: We need more. This town needs more from the baseball team.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So in a year in which was a great season,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: great event, and a great celebration, the baseball team has
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: failed us on the field, through and through your thoughts.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Four one, four to five to one, It's coming Dodge
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: text line four nine, four to five to one. We'll
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: get to those coming up in the two o'clock hour.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Corbyn Smiths gonna join us. By the way, it two
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: will recap the fan fest for the Seahawks because on
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Saturday it was a crazy busy day down there fan
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: fest for the Seahawks at Lumenfield and the Mariner's fiftieth
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: anniversary celebration. I'll get your thoughts to mog because you
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: were there right on Friday. You were there, yep, just real,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just a real quick thought on how Friday it was.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: Well, the home run derby I thought was great. It
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: was better than the actual game, which is sad, sad. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: but watching Bucky up there, you know, swinging away and
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: got a couple out and the crowd was going nuts
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: for them, and you know, like working with Bucky that
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: was really really cool.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: And seeing each trio string you know, a few home
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: runs in a row. That was awesome.
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  Speaker 10: But it really underscores the imbalance between what we see
• 38:43
  Speaker 10: on the field during you know, the regular team playing
• 38:47
  Speaker 10: and what goes on afterwards.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: It's it's something needs to.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Change, yep, yep, yeah, And I don't think anything is
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: going to change.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I just.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Well, they make money. They're making tons of money.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, and selling tickets, selling everything. They just
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: have to get better at baseball because right now they're
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: not very good at baseball. Seven games under five hundred.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So we'll do this, we'll take a break, we'll come back.
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• 39:39
  Speaker 2: who's out there. It looks to me is this true?
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  Speaker 9: Is it?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yes? We got a full pads day, ladies and gentlemen,
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• 39:54
  Speaker 2: at that point in time Sounders. They won yesterday, the
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: rain had a draw, the storm lost, and the Mariners lost.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: More on that coming up right now, let's start some
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  Speaker 1: It's Monday, then that means one thing. It's time to
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  Speaker 2: All right, we're malwap Monday. I just get an lecture
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  Speaker 2: so we'll h hang on. Say say hi to Key
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: for guys. He's right there, ah man. There are days,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: there are days when we need a mollywop. Oh my,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like nothing will ever top you know, Like I'm watching
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: all the fifties stuff over the weekend. The Gino home
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: run last year, double down the left field line. Those
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: are kind of the first ever mollywop episode bar that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: was set with you know the John Stanton when I
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: first met these guys, but the last week, in specifically
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the last three days, unfortunately, this is why we have
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: to mollywop. This is this is I'd rather talk about
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: good stuff. And there's a line Chris used in mile
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Y yesterday. I forget what it was. It was early
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in the mile Y, but we're gonna get to that
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: in a couple of seconds because this is a day
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that we need to mile y or to mollywop, and
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: we need a mile Wy. You should be subscribing any
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• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I believe that the Captain Kirk of the Enterprise next Monday,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is it not Christopher Crawford aka zim Gus? Say the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: name for me?
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: Say the name zim Gus Gurginson, and I say Zims
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: Gurgenson again, because you didn't acknowledge it last week, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: I'm glad that you acknowledged it this week.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Can you give us his bile from the days? Who
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: was zimgas?
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: I don't remember, but I can tell you that he
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: did play in the NHL and that if you're name
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: is Zimis then you probably had a pretty good life.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I will captain next week and that'll be fun,
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: and I'll have either Anders or New York Vinnie play
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: my part next week. I haven't decided which one yet.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: New York Vinnie. Yeah, perfect. Well, guys, here we are.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: It was a last weekend to be sure. All they
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: did was get swept in three games by the Tampa
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Bay Rays on the fiftieth anniversary of your Seattle Mariners.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Some cool celebrations, some cool moments. We'll get to that.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I do want to get to that because we're Mariner
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: fans and we've all grown up watching this team, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: there were parts of our childhood different eras for all
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: three of us childhood that we saw. I don't think
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: anything will top Lou throwing the first pitch out, maybe
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Riz getting told he's going to be in the Marrior
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, the raw motion that Ricky had, one
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: of the good dudes out there in sports. But that
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: was also bookended by what we saw in the field.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So away we go, Nathan fire Away.
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: Well, I think there's a whole generation of Mariner fans,
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: through no fault of their own, just age, or maybe
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: they just got into baseball recently, or maybe you know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty one's crazy ninety win season, which is one
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: of the most improbable ninety one seasons in baseball history,
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: got them into the game or the team in a
• 43:29
  Speaker 11: way that they'd never really been involved and engaged with before,
• 43:32
  Speaker 11: and so maybe they don't really get that this past
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: weekend was I am sorry to be able to have
• 43:39
  Speaker 11: to tell you the absolutely perfect way to celebrate fifty.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Years of Seattle Mariners baseball.
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: It is the perfect encapsulation of a half century of
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: what this team has been all about. They were great
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: at celebrating, they were great at honoring themselves, they were
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: great at putting on a good show, and they were
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: terrible at playing baseball. It was right up there with
• 43:59
  Speaker 11: one of those things. It was I think Lola Bluesa
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: in two thousand and eight or so, or two thousand
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: and seven, and last weekend like that night Court in
• 44:07
  Speaker 11: twenty fourteen, these big grand events that the team gets
• 44:10
  Speaker 11: together for and gets everybody excited for, and then the
• 44:12
  Speaker 11: team doesn't respond and it lets everybody down. So it
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: sucked really bad to watch. But you know, when things
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: get this way, I tend to get a little metaphysical,
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: and I just think, if you can just view the
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: Mariners as an abstract art project as opposed to a
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: baseball team or just somebody who's trying to do something
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: beyond the scope of winning and losing. If you're looking
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: at them in the grand scope of what it means
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: to be a fan and what it means to try
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: and struggle and fail over and over again on the
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: grandest stage. Hey man, this is the baseball team for you.
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: And they put in one of their greatest efforts this
• 44:50
  Speaker 11: past weekend so we could talk more about this specific
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: stretch that they've been playing through, and I'm sure we will,
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: but I just thought it was incredibly and again sadly
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: super appropriate.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Well said Chris.
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's so much to say, and yet there's
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: nothing to say about what this baseball team is because
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: they've lost me. They've lost me, they've lost one of
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: their And I'm not saying I'm giving up of them totally.
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying that I'm super uninterested in this baseball
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: team right now because they are and I said this
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: in a my WAI video and I think it got deleted,
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: but they are a joyless suck factory.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Because not only that was a line that was a
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: line that was a line.
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: Suck factory. I'm glad I remembered. I had to record
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: like five videos that got corrupted and I couldn't remember
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: if I added it or not. But they are a
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: joyless suck factory. And it's one of those things too.
• 45:49
  Speaker 9: And I brought this up in the video. It's the
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: chicken in the egg thing. Do they suck because they're joyless?
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: Or are they joyless because they suck? And I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: the answer to that question is yes. But I can't
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: go back. I can't help but go back to the
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: beginning of the year and how joyless they even looked
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: back to then. And yes, it's a little bit captain hindsight,
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: but this team just doesn't have any energy, doesn't look
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: like it's having any fun playing baseball. And for those
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: who quickly want to point out, of course they're not
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: having fun playing baseball at Chris Crawford, they're so bad
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: at it, I think that maybe one of the reasons
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: they're so bad at it is because there's just no
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: joy and there's no chemistry. This is beyond disappointing now.
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: And it's not that they are having a bad year now.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: They are bad now. Everything's still in front of them
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: because there are so many crappy teams that are ahead
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: of them that they still play. So there is a chance.
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: There's a chance this all works out and we all
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: look like idiots. Wouldn't be the first time. But what
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: a disappointing thing to see a joyless suck factory. But
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: as Nathan pointed out, it's just perfect to get that
• 46:59
  Speaker 9: suck fact running at full speed on what was a
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: pretty damn big weekend.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Too.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Bear with me, I'm just running. I don't want to
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: forget it because I watched it late last night and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I might add a couple of cocktails in me, so
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that's why I forgot. I just I remember. I honest
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: to god, this is what I remember last night. I'm like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I was watching it. I was on the I got
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: we got went to the game yesterday. I got home
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: sitting on the patio and I had you know, wife
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: was driving, So I had a couple of pops at
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the game come home and I said I could do
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: one of two things. I could go take a snooze
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: or I could just continue the I did have some
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: iHeart modules that we had to do for whatever training
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: we got to do and I said, well, the best
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: way to do that is with a couple couple of cocktails.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: And so I turned the cocktails on and finished the module.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: And then I said, you know what, I got to
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: see what Chris is saying on mile Y and I
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: yet joyless suck factory. Okay, perfect on mollywa Monday. By
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the way, MOLLI what go ahead?
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: It sounds like you were a joyful suck factory.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: To be honest, Ian, I was. I pretty much was. Well,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I told you I was telling Travis and the listeners
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: here in the first hour. You know, you go to
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the game and you get you guys have used the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: same tickets, you get the thing. Hey, how was your
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: experience of the Mariners game? Well? The beer was cold?
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I think I am a listen I'm a Seattle guy.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I love Kid Valley. So can you go wrong with
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the garlic fries and a burger?
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: No?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Sure, right? Perfect? My wife had chicken tenders from there,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: which are really good. I'm not even a chicken guy.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Chicken tenders guy, I have a chicken guy. Not really good.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the body's offa that I had and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: a couple of miller. They were cold. Everything was good
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: except when I saw between the lines like that wasn't good,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: And and.
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: Let's get this is this is the worst Mariners team
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: of the decade. And that was something that I was
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: going to say, since we're just kind of free riffing
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: right now. Yeah, you wanted to just get that out there.
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: This is this is the least watchable Mariners team since
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: twenty nineteen, I think. And this is year seven or
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: eight of our supposed three to five year rebuild that
• 49:03
  Speaker 11: we were in, and we're stuck here now. This is
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: the year that I can I don't remember exactly which
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: year this has been said, because the president of Baseball
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: Operations for the marriage has said so many things over
• 49:12
  Speaker 11: so many years, but I know at one point he
• 49:14
  Speaker 11: did say they were pointing towards a twenty twenty six
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: quote unquote prest and that would imply the perfect alignment
• 49:23
  Speaker 11: of young talent free agent spending, and I would assume
• 49:26
  Speaker 11: the division being very winnable. Well, the division is extremely winnable. However,
• 49:31
  Speaker 11: they are absolutely unwatchable to play baseball like they are
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: as this is as unwatchable of the Marin team as
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: I think I've seen since twenty ten, when they scored
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: the fewest runs in modern baseball history over the course
• 49:44
  Speaker 11: of the season, having terrible offense and terrible defense together
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: really bad combination for watching baseball and enjoying it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to let me get to something here,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: because I think by the way we will want to.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I do want to spend some time in the second
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: segment maybe and maybe the third. I do want to
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: spend a little bit time in the fifteth anniversary because
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I think, and as much as a joyless suck factory
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: as it is, wast that for us, because we're doing
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: this because we're baseball fans, and we're Mariners fans, and
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: that's that's our team. So there was some really cool
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: visuals and moments and things, and I want us to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of fun with that, even if
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the current addition to this baseball team is giving us
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: nothing to be excited about and not giving us it
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: is joyless suck factory. All right, Let's get just to
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: the to the This is what happened over this home stand.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: They win the series against Minnesota, and then they lose
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the next two Detroit and swept by Tampa. They score
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: in the final four games in the final four games
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: four runs because remember the they got shut out because
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I was made all the other scored fo runs gets Tampa, yeh.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: But the scored four runs to the final four games.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: They got outscored forty four to twenty two in the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: nine game homestand forty four to twenty two, a season
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: low seven games under five hundred for this baseball team.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And where I still I truly believe this because the
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: math is there. They could still get to the postseason.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: They could still like they're not out of it, but
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: it's becoming increasingly hard to figure out how they can
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: get from seven under to probably happen to be at
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: least two or three over to get a playoff spot
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and get to the postseason. In the meantime, Chris, let
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: me start with you with the offense, because at three
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: point a eight runs per game on pace for the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: worst offensive seasons in fifty years. Oh yeah, so what
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: is going on?
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: What like when you watch this offense? Because I think
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: when Nathan says it's unwatchable, I think that's why it's unwatchable,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: because you just unless they run into a ball and
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: hit it over the fence, they're not scoring a run.
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: It's funny listening to all that stuff, and I can
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: think of in my head is but other than that,
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: how was the play missus Lincoln? But uh, what's funny
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: too is And I immediately thought of Nathan after this happened,
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: because all of their runs seemed to come on the homer,
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: a lot of them solo homers. One three run homer
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: by Julio That was a really impressive piece of hitting.
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: But I don't want to get too positive today. But
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: what was funny was yesterday they immediately manufacture a run.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: They hit a triple and an RBI single and okay,
• 52:28
  Speaker 9: well this is going to be the day with nobody
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: out too and then they literally don't score another freaking run.
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: And I don't think they even challenged to score another
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: freaking run for the rest of this game. I think
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: what needs to happen is you got to fire another
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: assistant hitting coach. That's the only way I think this
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: is going to work out is clearly they just need
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: another scapegoat. It's it's crazy how much digression we have
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: seen from guys. And you know, Josh Naylor, all give
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: him credit. He had a really, really good baseball game,
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: but it was two and a half months or something
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: like that without a homer before that. And these guys
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: just remember control the zone. Whatever happens is that because
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: they do everything outside of the strike zone, they're chasing
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: and they are getting out and if they do get aheading, counts.
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: They don't hit pitches, but they don't get ahead and
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: counts very often. There is assertive and then there's aggressive,
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: and then they're stupid. And right now they're hitting stupid.
• 53:26
  Speaker 9: They are swinging at so many bad pitches and clearly pressing.
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: And I put some of that blame on the players,
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: for sure. I also put that plame on the coaching
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: staff for not getting these guys to settle down into
• 53:39
  Speaker 9: And I know people hate the sports phrase, but it's
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: a good one. Usually trust the process, Do what got
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: you here, Do what made you such a good baseball
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: team last year. They just haven't done it at all
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: this year. And there's blame all around. There is blame
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: to the players, there's blame to the front office, there's
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: blame to obviously the coaching staff, and all always blame
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: John Stanton. If I get a chance to blame John
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: stan it's just it's just hard to you can't point to,
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: like one thing. You can't point to except for the
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: fact that they just swing at so many bad pitches
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: and don't do damage when they get the chance. They
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: don't put together rallies whatsoever. It's joeli suck factory, My friend.
• 54:22
  Speaker 11: Can I offer something that I was thinking about earlier today?
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: I was talking with some friends. Think about last year.
• 54:28
  Speaker 11: What was last year's Marine team? They won ninety games
• 54:30
  Speaker 11: in the regular season and won the AO West. Right,
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: this is and this is gonna sound like I'm keeping
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: blame on one particular player.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: That's not what I'm doing here.
• 54:37
  Speaker 11: I just want to illustrate what I think is going
• 54:39
  Speaker 11: on here. I think this team is not that much
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: different than last year's team, with one exception. Last year,
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: they were about an eighty five win team who had
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: a guy who hit thirty more home runs and you
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: would have realistically expected that he was gonna hit and
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: you won ninety games and you won the division. Now
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: you got about an eighty five win team with the
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: same guy hitting about thirty home runs fewer than you
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: thought he was gonna hit, And you're a joyless suck factory.
• 55:03
  Speaker 11: And when you build a roster that's requiring thirty more
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: home runs, and you thought you were gonna get from
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: your catcher in order to win ninety games. When that's
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: the peak, when the greatest offensive season in major league
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: history by a catcher gets you to ninety wins, and
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: that's as good of a roster as you can possibly build.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: When that everything goes right, you get world historic performances offensively,
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: you were winning ninety games. Well, this is what happens
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: when you see the other side of that regression. When
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: your median talent level is slightly above five hundred and
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: you finally start to experience a little bit of injury,
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: bad luck and regression bad luck from your stars, you
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: look like total crap. And that's what's happening here because
• 55:41
  Speaker 11: you're not getting a great Julio Rodriguez season, You're not
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: getting a great Cal Rawley season, and your big offseason
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: acquisition was a good player who can't stay healthy. And like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 11: I just don't know what else to tell you, man.
• 55:52
  Speaker 11: Not that much else has gone inexplicably wrong. Josh Naylor
• 55:55
  Speaker 11: has been worse than you would have expected.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Randy A.
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: Rose Rain has been better, Cole Young's been better, Dominica
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: Zones been better, Like, it's not like this as a group,
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: everyone's just forgotten how to hit. It's just not a
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: very talented group of hitters. Unless cal Rawley hit sixty
• 56:08
  Speaker 11: home runs. I'm sorry, That's how I see it happen.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Well, And I've that roster construction is and and going
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: with that that that philosophy, right, And Chris, I was
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: just gonna ask you that, like I'm gonna bring it
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: up every week. I just am, I'm sorry, and I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: feel like maybe I'm picking on the guy, but Nathan
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: brought his name up, Chris. From all accounts, the metrics
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: for cal bat speed is still fine, you know, like
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: there's like those things like it just what in God's
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: name has happened? Because Colt Emerson is hitting forty points
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: higher than him and people are saying send cold Emerson down.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Think about that for a second.
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying when if they were all healthy that
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Colt would still be here and you're starting, but think
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: about that, Chris, what is going on with cal Raley?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: They cannot be a playoff team unless he finds something
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: in the final month and a half.
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I wish I knew, I wish I knew other
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: than you know, there was there had to be a regression.
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: But like again, this is not just regression from last year,
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: which is obvious. Point is obvious. This is regression from
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: massive regression for twenty twenty four, massive regression from twenty
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: twenty three. In other words, not just one year, Not
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: just one year, that's what you're saying. Okay, no, it's
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: been It's an entire I mean, this is regression for anybody.
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: He is negative eighteen and batting run value this year.
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: And other than the fact that, I what does that mean?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: What does that mean, Chris, Chris, what does that mean?
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Give me that what put that into context? With that number,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: with that number means that say.
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: It means that for an average hitter, he is negative
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: eighteen runs worse than that average hitter, and that has
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: to do with his on base percentage, his batting average,
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: his lugging percentage, all of that stuff. So that's really bad.
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: That's not just bad for the guy who should have
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: won MVP last year. That's bad for everyone. And other
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: than the fact that, you know, you point to the
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: bat speed, so it kind of says, well, can he
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: really be that hurt if he's able to swing the
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: bat that fast, I think, yeah, I do. I don't
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: think he looks comfortable. I specifically don't think he looks
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: comfortable hitting from the left side right now, which is
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: crazy because it's been his bread and butter for so long.
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: But other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: And you know, some of this is on Cal obviously,
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: like and then some of this, you know, maybe if
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: you want to just say, hey, what did they do?
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: What did they tell Cal to do? That is so
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: different from this year to last year? And I don't
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: know because I'm not in there and I'll never be
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: in there. It's one of the most baffling things I've
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: seen from a Seattle Mariner, without question, one of the
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: most baffling things I've ever seen. And I hate it
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: because I love Cal Rawly. I love watching him play.
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: And I will say this as a bit of an
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: apologist to be honest with you. Thank God he's at
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: least providing some defensive value, right Like, thank god, he's
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: at least still a really good defensive backstop. And I
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: have almost zero doubt that he's going to be back
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: to the twenty twenty four version. He'll never do twenty
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: twenty five again in twenty twenty eight, or excuse me,
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty seven. God, if that's a Jenks, I apologize everybody.
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: I just can't fathom what has happened with cal Rawley
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: where he has gone from being one of the best
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: baseball players to legitimately, even with the good defense, one
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: of the very worst regulars in the sport.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Nathan, is there anything that gives you hope that he
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: can turn it around?
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: The main thing is just that, to Chris's point, this
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: guy's been somewhere between a pretty good to the best
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: offensive catcher in baseball for the last four years. So
• 59:46
  Speaker 11: the sample size of him being good is just so
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: long that you have to think compared maybe yeah, maybe
• 59:52
  Speaker 11: he's not going to be great, but he can be
• 59:55
  Speaker 11: I don't know, an average offensive player moving forward through
• 59:58
  Speaker 11: the rest of the year, because right now he's he's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: got a WRC plus of thirty I'm excuse me seventy, which,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: to be clear, is thirty percent worse than the average
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: major league hitterer. Like, that's just that's just not who
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: cal Rawley is. Man, He's got like thousands of played
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: appearances in major league baseball. Saying that he's a good
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: offensive player, so that's the only thing that I'm clinging to.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: But he just looks lost. It's it is so jarring.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: It's not wrong given what's going on, but it is
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: so jarring to turn on the game and see that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: guy batting eight, Like it's just so strange. It feels
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: so weird. It is isn't probably the best the best
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 11: summary of just how weird this season.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Has felt that. I think that's a great point. Like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: when you look at a batting order and the lineup
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: comes out and you're like.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: What, And that's where he should be.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 11: To be clear, that's where his performance deserves him. I mean,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: he should be batting ninth. But you know cold Emberson
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 11: Betty ninth.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I mean that's where that's where, that's where top fifty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Mariners catcher Dave Valley hit was eight, right, and then
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Olmar hit nine. Well, I mean Olmar hit ninth, Valley
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: hit eight. And by the way I did this exercise,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it open ended because we were all upset,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: like Valley over say Nelson or somebody is a top
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: fifty guy.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Cal's on pace to have worse here than Valley ever had. Oh, yeah,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, and we were selling drinks, well we Swane's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: was selling drinks for Valley's batting average. I told the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: guys that, I told guys at the Occidental Queenann Beer
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Halls they need to do the same thing. It'd be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: a great promotion for Cal. I mean, you know, drink
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: for Cal.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 9: Remember remember the Jeff Cirillo stuff. We basically literally ran
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: a dude out of town for hitting much worse than
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 9: what Cal better excuse me, than what Cal Ralely is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 9: doing right now. Like Jeff Cirillo, I can remember playing
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: golf for very cheap thanks to Jeff Sorillo for a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 9: good couple of months. Like I can't remember exactly what
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: cords it was, but that they had that promotion with
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 9: you guys that the course fees were based on Jeff
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: Ciro's batting average. Every golf course would go out to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 9: business if they were charging what we're probably did right now,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 9: especially in the summer.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, we'll take a quick break, come back.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I just kind of said, what could change with Cal.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ask you guys simply this. I brought
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: this up so to me, it's the most disappointing Mariner
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: season ever, most disappointing is that accurate? And also we've
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: talked about it before. Guys are not changing the manager.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: What can they do is anything in the final month
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and a half to get this thing going. And then
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: we'll spend some time talking about what was really cool
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: this weekend and seeing guys like Rick Riz honored, seeing
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Lou come out and throw the first pitch. All that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: we'll get to all that. The Mully Whoppers are here
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: on a very Mariner like Monday after getting swept on
• 1:02:46
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• 1:02:49
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• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: right now. Chris Nader here, Uh, let's get I brought
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: up disappointing season. So Chris, is this the most disappointing
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Mariner season? You can remember and can it change and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: if so, how uh?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: To me, the most disappointing season is still And this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: is just based on where I was in life. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: was a thirteen year old. It's nineteen ninety six because
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: I got all of those magazines that said the Briners
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: were gonna win the World Series and it was the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: first that they had just gone to the postseason for
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: the first time. So and I'm a thirteen year old
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: and you know, actne all over getting fatter. You know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: at least I got the Mariners to make things get better,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: and nope, they were pretty aggressive, average team. In my
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: adult life, this is certainly the most disappointing, like to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: have what happened last year, and then to come back
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: and just lay a complete egg. Nathan and I were
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: just talking like they ended the year last or last
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: year they were at this point, they had just finished
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: the series also against the Race. They were sixty six
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: and fifty three, and they were playing great and everything
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 9: looked like it was on the oven up and they
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: get one good decision by a manager away from going
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: to the World Series, in my personal opinion, and then
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: now you are a aggressively, aggressively mediocre baseball team. That's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: incredibly disappointing. How can it get better? Playbatter and you know,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: take advantage of this gauntlet that with this gauntlet comes opportunity,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: right like you have the chance to do something special.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: Still it's all in front of you. I've just seen
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: nothing to suggest they can't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotlant is ext actly what I was going
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  Speaker 2: to say.
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  Speaker 9: That's how it gets better.
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  Speaker 11: Is like everything about this upcoming road trip is three
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: against New York, three against Houston, three against Milwaukee. Milwaukee
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: and New York are probably two of the four best
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: teams in baseball in many ways. If if you you
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 11: can't be going three and nine, three and six, excuse me,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 11: or worse, and everything about where they're at right now
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: screams if that's when we're headed that they're going to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: go three or three and six are worse?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: You go five and four or.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 11: Six and three during this stretch. Hey man, now you're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: getting close back to five hundred. You're probably like a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: half game out of the third wild Card or something
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 11: like that, and you've gotten through the worst of it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 11: and you're coming home.
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  Speaker 5: It's still right there.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: For him, it's just to Chris as Chris was kind
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: of joking around, they just have to play way better baseball,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: and there's no reason to think that they will because
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 11: they haven't done it for two months. I do think
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: this is the most disappointing Mariner season that I can remember.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: The only one that I think kind of compares is
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: twenty fifteen, where they had almost made the playoffs in
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: twenty fourteen and they had signed Nelson Cruz in the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 11: offs in and I remember, in a similar way to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: this year, it was an alignment of media and numbers
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: that were aligning to say the Mariners are one of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 11: the very best teams in the American League, and lo
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: and behold. I think they won seventy eight games or
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: something that year. And when McClinton got fired and Jackson
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 11: Renza got fired because there used to be you know,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 11: there used to be you. You used to have to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 11: pay for failure.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 9: You don't have to ability actually exist.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 11: Thank you accountability. I was total blanking on that. But yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 11: I think that's the only one that really compares to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: me is the twenty fifteen team.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask this question because I think it's readily apparent.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: We've talked about the cizillion times, they're not going to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: fire the manager. Do we agree upon that? Do we
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: all agree they're not going to fire the manager? Yeah? Okay,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: So Chris, we talked to Nathan brings up accountability, joyless,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: suck fest, suck factory, everybody that covers this team. I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: was just talking to a steam member of the newspaper
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: of record in Seattle. His name shall go unnamed, and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: he's not allowed to talk to us publicly on the air.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: But I was talking to this gentleman who might have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: wrote a story this weekend about the fifty players and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: the guys were omitted. His name rhymes with Ruth, And
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: you know, he said the same thing. He's like, there's
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: just nothing. There's nothing there emotionally right now. And I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: guess that's the thing. Like I've been we've all been
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: talking about what can they do? They fired the third
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: string hitting coach and whatever else. I'm gonna use a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Nathan term, serious about winning. They're just not serious about winning.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Because if you were serious about winning and you look
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: at you see this joyless team, this team that's devoid
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: of emotion, Chris, wouldn't the answer to be to make
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: a move and to try to create change in culture
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: in that clubhouse.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: Everything that I have seen suggests, yes, it's so hard,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: because I mean, I literally said fire Dan Wilson in
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: my video yesterday. So I totally agree that's what I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 9: would do. I've said that for a long time. I've
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: also said I never would have made the hire in
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: the first place. Yes, but Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollander
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: might truly believe. I don't have any evidence to point
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: otherwise that he is the right guy for this job,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: that he is going through growing pains, but that he
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 9: is the guy who ultimately is keeping this club. I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: can't he can finish it.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You can't say that was a straight face.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: No, how could you say? How could you honestly believe
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 9: this clubhouse is in a good spot? Watching this team,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: I joked with Nathan they look like little leaguers at
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 9: the end of the year who just want the season
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 9: to end and to go home and play fortnit or roeblocks.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 9: They just look miserable playing the sport of baseball right now. So,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: and there's two different things. In my personal opinion, There
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: is caring about winning and making winning the ultimate most
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: important thing. I think the Mariners do care about winning. Clearly,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: winning is not the most important thing. It can't be.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: It simply cannot be based on their financial decisions, based
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: on a whole bunch of stuff and sustainability and blah
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: blah blah. Clearly winning isn't the most important thing. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: that's true for a lot of Major League Baseball teams.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: In fact, I would argue it's true for most. It
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: doesn't mean that we don't have to be disappointed by it,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: because it is disappointing that winning is not the ultimate thing.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: And I was thinking about this, and we can maybe
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: talk about in the next segment. You know, there was
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 9: all this talk about they're not gonna fire the guy
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 9: during the fiftieth anniversary. They're not gonna fire him. I
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: think it would have blown over. I really do believe
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 9: it would have been. It would have been a little weird.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: They would have said, either Dan Wilson's not here, but
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: Dan Wilson. I believe a man of such integrity would
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: have absolutely shown up and given the wave, and people
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: would have given him a nice cheer. It maybe been
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: appreciative that he's not the guy who's running the baseball
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 9: team anymore. But it's just it's hard for me too.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: It's hard for me to agree that winning is the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: most important thing for the Seattle Baroners when Dan Wilson
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: is still managing the baseball team.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I maybe you find a word here real quick
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: about it. A minute left.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that the issue there is just to
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 11: Chris's point, there's most teams probably don't care about winning
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 11: as the thing that the b all end all. But
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 11: as I've hammered, you know, add nauseum on this program
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 11: for five years, literally every other Major League baseball team
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 11: has a league pennant hanging in their stadium because they've
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 11: won the league. And I think that the absence of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 11: that here creates a should create a unique motivation to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 11: fix that problem. And that's what's killing me is that
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 11: there I don't see it from them. They're just happy
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: to just go along.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the if I mentioned yesterday at the game,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: it just was the building was dead, you know, it
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: was just dead.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: And this should have been a weekend in which by
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: the time you got to Sunday, the party's still dulling,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: we're celebrating, and and you watch the at bats that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: take place, and you just it's just I thought momentum,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you get, like I mentioned, you get the first inning
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: basis loaded, nobody out and Hancock wiggles his way out
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: of it. You get Cavin Rada a strikeout with a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: basis loaded, kidding me, like how do you? And then
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: you get a one run as Chris mentioned the first segment,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: one like you should just be and then it just
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: it's an amazing it's an amazing situation. We'll take a break,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: come back, let's rap, let's wrap up with this. I
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: just want I'll ask each of you guys your favorite
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: thing from the weekend, not baseball, your favorite thing from
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary. As baseball fans, what was your favorite
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: moment of the weekend. Because that side of the that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: side of the T Mobile Park offices, the promotions and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: marketing side, they do a good job. They do a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: great job. Let's talk about that next.
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• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: the baseball on the field was not good this weekend
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: swept by the Rays four straight losses. New York Series
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: starts tomorrow, nine game trip. It's gonna be a doozy,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: but let's get to the good stuff. And that would
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: be the fiftieth anniversary. Yes there's no Pennant, Yes there's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: no World Series, but we do as as fans have
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: a lot to look back and have fond memories growing
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: up as kids. Especially Chris mentioned ninety six. Yeah, that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: wasn't a fond memory. Ninety five was. That's cool? And
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I don't get listen, I don't care. People can complain
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: about ninety five all they want. Double doesn't happen. We
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: don't have baseball here, as simple as that, Like we
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: can just let's just go down the like and I've
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: worked in two non baseball markets. It's not fun in
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: this time of the year with no baseball. Chris, the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: highlight of the weekend in the fifties, in terms of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: terms of the fiftieth anniversary was what for you?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 9: My favorite part of it. And I have to admit
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 9: I didn't watch it live. I was just not in
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: the mood to be sold nostalgia, and I don't blame anybody.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: I'm glad it worked out. And I also knew I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: could watch it on YouTube twenty times afterwards, so I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: knew I wasn't gonna miss anything. My favorite thing was
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 9: seeing that Alex Rodriguez got such a wonderful response, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 9: I know how mad people were, and I'm still disappointed
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 9: that Alex Rodriguez just didn't tell the truth and said, hey,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: it's about the money. The Mariners low balled me. The
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: Texas Rangers paid me more money than God. That's why
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 9: I'm there. The whole thing about it being the win
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: World Championships pissed me off because it was a lot.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 9: It was a lie, it was about money. But he
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: also did the thing that every single one of us
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: would have done. Every single one of us would have
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: done what Alex Rodriguez did. And that's just the nature
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: of the business, is that people lie after they signed
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: these big contracts. It sucks, but that's just the nature
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: of the business. I did hear a smattering of booze.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: There were people who weren't just thrilled about Alex Rodriguez
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: being there, but the overwhelming majority of people got it.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: They under stood that Alex Rodriguez was one of the very,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 9: very best players, not just to play for the Marrigs,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: to ever play the sport of baseball. So seeing him
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 9: get an ovation that he deserved. I don't like him
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: as a broadcaster. I don't particularly like him as a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: human being. I love him as a Seattle Mariner. He's
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: as good of a player as I've ever seen, and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 9: that was really cool to see him in Seattle.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 11: Nathan, I'm just gonna be really mad at Chris for
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 11: stealing my talking point because I wanted to talk about
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 11: Alex too, because I think it's probably a hot take
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 11: and it's actually I'm gonna say this, and then I'm
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 11: gonna dovetail into the broader point that I'll make. It'll
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: be a different answer than Alex. But I think Alex,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 11: you can make a great case. It's the greatest baseball
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 11: player to ever wear a Seattle Marrier's uniform, and I
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 11: think that the only other one that's in competition is
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 11: Randy Johnson, and so it was really great to see
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: him be able to come back. I still think that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 11: the team should put him in the team Hall of Fame,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 11: not number of retirement. He wasn't here long enough for that,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 11: but nineteen ninety six Alex Rodriguez is still even with
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 11: big dumpers too. Twenty twenty five probably the greatest single
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 11: Mariners season I've ever seen in my entire life. But
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 11: beyond that, in a more general tone, like Chris and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: I were talking on the break, I think the thing is,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: we get on here and we little meant the Mariners
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 11: a lot. I make fun of them, I get angry
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: at them, I yell about them. And there's something that
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 11: kept me coming back for fifty years now I'm not
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 11: quite fifty, but has kept me coming back for almost
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 11: fifty years of living. And what it's been is it's
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 11: been the players. Because the Mariners have lost a lot,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 11: but for a vast majority of that losing, they were
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 11: doing so with some of the greatest baseball players who
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 11: have ever lived. Not just great, the inner circle of
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 11: great players to have played their best baseball in Seattle
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 11: goes toe to toe with the vast majority of Major
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 11: League Baseball franchises. We have been so fortunate to see
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 11: great guys, great players, and sometimes great guys who are
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 11: great players come through here and do amazing things. And
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 11: so I just thought it was so awesome to see
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 11: these guys. This is why I'm here. It's not for
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 11: trying to figure out a new way to reimagine the DH.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 11: It's not trying to like piggyback a rotation, it's not
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 11: doing all this nonsense of like trying to win fifty
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 11: four percent. It's for the greatness of these players. I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 11: thought that was really really great.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I was well said by both you guys. I would
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: first of all, the A Rod stuff was cool. I'm
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: glad to get I'm glad it was mostly yours. Yeah,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Chris Well said like lied about why he went there.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I get that that's why people were mad. But sure,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: people are really mad just because I think, for really
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: being honest with ourselves, were just mad because our team
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: didn't want to offer him the same money, right, like,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: and we live in a and we live in an
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: era now, which I think is an interesting part of
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: this dynamic is that in college sports people leave for
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: money all the time. That's and it's and it's accepted.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: That's you're gonna get paid more, you go, you can
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: use it all. I'm gonna get a better opportunity. Really, No,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get paid more, right, isn't that what it's
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: all about, Chris, Yeah.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: It's it's it's the it's capitalism. That's the way the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 9: world works, man. And it's it's so funny that we
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 9: seem to put athletes on this different pedestal, right, because
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: we think that they owe us something and they do
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: want us a little bit. Like if you're wearing that uniform,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: you are supposed to do the right things, and you're
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 9: supposed to play hard and all that stuff. But once
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: your contract ends, it's no different than any of us.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 9: If our contracts end, that we can go make our
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: families better, we can go make our lives better. The
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 9: Texas Rangers exactly, Alex Rodriguez the chance to never have
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: to worry about money ever again. And so did the Mariners,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: but just to a different extent, much different extent. It's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 9: so weird that we put athletes on a different pedestal
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: when we would do the exact same frickin thing.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: I mean that, like, didn't Washington's quarterback try to leave
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: for more money?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 9: He sure did, He sure did, like that? And if
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: his quarterback left a couple of times too, and twice
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: twice and it'll probably happen again. You know, like if
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 9: Kayden Pinnock is great, there's a very good chance that
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: he's playing for somewhere else. I hate to say that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 9: because I don't love saying that, but there's a chance
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: that this stuff is going to keep it.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: That's why I brought it.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: Going to keep leaving.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's why I brought it up. I mean,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: listen and I and people say, oh, you were mad
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: at you were mad at Matier Reward. I was mad
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: at Matier because he mailed in half a season, like
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: he knew he was gone, like he knew he was leaving,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: and he mailed the season. And I'll give them on
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Williams credit. He never did that like he you know,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: like now, I mean, if you watch the tape of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of games Michigan and others, you asked yourself,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: what was he thinking? But no, seriously, like that's I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: don't have a problem. Guy will take gets more money.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: I get it, one hundred percent. Baseball football doesn't matter. Uh,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: just don't mail in a season. A Rod never mailed
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: in a season.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 9: Last I checked, God, like he carried them two thousand
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just read it real quick with mine was I
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: thought Rick Riz finding out spur them, but he's gonna
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: get in there in his Hall of fame. Yeah, No
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: one loves no one loves the organization more than Rizzy
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: and what that meant to him, the emotion, the raw motion.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: You know, he's always going to be the second fiddle
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: to Dave. I get that, he understands that. But I'm
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: glad he got his due as well and will honor
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: him next summer, which I can't wait for because anybody
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: that's ever run into Rick Riz know what a great
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: guy the dude is, and so I'm excited the.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: Person I've ever met, I think truly just and sorry
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 9: to interrupt in Yeah, one of the reasons for Rick
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 9: Rizz and I know you're close to the break too.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 9: Rick Riz did leave. Rick Wriz felt the experience of
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: being away from Seattle, and I think him coming back
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 9: made him appreciate this market even more, and I think
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: it made him a better broadcaster as well. That experience
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: in Detroit, I think he'll be the first person to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 9: tell you was a horrible experience for him, trying to
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: have to replace the legend. And he came back and
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: he became a legend of his own. And that's pretty cool.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: That's really cool. I didn't get to it today. I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: gotta go. I know, watching the game yesterday a lot
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: of the year from my wife, she looks at me
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: and Taylor Ward's up and not when he hit the triple,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: but later she goes, who is those random? Who is
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: this random guy? I don't know this guy? Who is
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: this random? I said, none. You can say that. You
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: can say that about pretty much everybody in the bullpen
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: not named Munyos right now, and probably four or five
• 1:20:19
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• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Saturday's activities in just a couple seconds. Seahawks reportly hosted
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: former Lions first round pick quarterback Terry and Arnold on
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: a free agent visit for the second time. Yesterday. He
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: was cut by the by the Lions. Why he's got
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: to eight felony charges against him. It's got a court
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: hearing on Thursday. He's visiting the Saints today. Marriage have
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: sunk to the lowest point of the season, seven games
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: under five hundred. Guy swept by Tampa over their fiftieth
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: anniversary weekend. Scored four runs and three losses. We see
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: if one has sended out. They scored four runs in
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: their last four games as well, eight runs total in
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: the six game homestand they went one in five. They've
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: lost thirteen of eighteen off day to day. They play
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: the Yankees tomorrow, Sounders Yesterday got a win, the Storm
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: lost the rain. How to draw? Let's get to it.
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• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Corben Smith is here. We're at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: We're right next to the field. We're in the I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: guess we'll be the northeast corner of where the fields are.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Here the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. We got offensive linement
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: in front of us right now. I'll just tell every
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: this just so everyone kind of knows where we're at.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: The two of us are rules followers and they're already
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: in their regular season mode. No fans here today. We've
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: got people, bunch of folks from the military here, USAA
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: is doing some stuff, but we're already regular season modes.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: So we can't tell you what's going on at practice
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: today or who's out here. You can go to amimalcyspectrum
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: dot com later on and Corbyn will have all that info.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: A few of us did post that Jake Bobo was
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Jake Bobo's back. Yeah, that's that's good, and we say
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Julie Nil's back, that's yeah, that's not treat I mean,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: that's good news on those fronts. Okay, so let's do this.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Let's focus in on Saturday everyone. A lot of people
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: were focused in on what was going on across street
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: a T mobile yep for the Mariner's fiftieth anniversary weekend.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: A couple hours before that, though, was the fan fest
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. By the way, this Saturday is the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: first Seahak preseason game. Five o'clock Dallas Cowboys are here. Yep.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: Uh they're not playing their starters. We don't expect the
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Seahawks to play their starters in that game on Saturday.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about what you saw on Saturday past
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Saturday at the FanFest. What were the overriding things that
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: jumped out at you.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: Well, first thing, my Tory Foster Junior, my good wide receiver.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's funny and every year it
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 12: seems like they're I mean, we remember the Jazz Fergusons
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 12: of the world, and.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: You know, let's joked on my water.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 12: Gosh, why am I blankt on the Washington kid that
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 12: was on the roster that almost made the team.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, William Williams.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, like every year, every year there's a receiver that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 12: stands out and then you're like, well, we have a
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 12: look at all the talent on the roster.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: They're not making the team, right, you know.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 12: But I think my Tory Foster is starting to make
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 12: things interesting for that last spot because they've been using
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 12: him as.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: A kick returner.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 12: They're using him on the gunner position and he's competing there.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Do you believe they're gonna go six receivers?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: I do, because I think that the six guy is
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 12: gonna be a corese special teams play.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, And if that's the case.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 12: Montry Foster could be that guy. Look, he's showing up
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 12: every single day.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: If we're I mean, it's handic capal quick. So it's
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Montory Foster, Cody White, Ricky White, the third of those,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Manuel Henderson. Maybe those are the four guys that have
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: a chance for that one spot.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that's who I would have in that mix right there.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 12: And I Foster's kind of taking a lead eighty seven.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: Just he shows up every single day making big plays,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 12: and that included in that practice on Saturday. He I mean,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 12: he tied up Andre Fuller, who's had a pretty good
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 12: first camp. He tied it into knots like an anti
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 12: am pretzel out there, and to the point that Andre
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 12: Fuller almost stumbled and face planted. He was able to
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 12: stay up, but he was stumbling towards the sideline while
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 12: Fuller was cutting inside or while Foster was going inside
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 12: wide open and just walked into the end zone for
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 12: a long touchdown and one on one.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: So, by the way, that was the competition period, so
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: all eyes were on those two guys.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, and then.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 12: A little bit later, Jaln Milroe under threw a deep
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 12: ball down the left side by five yards, and Foster
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 12: did a great job of coming back astutely playing the football,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 12: out ran a couple guys back inside.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: He took off for a forty eight yard touchdown. But
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: he just keeps showing up well. I think the Foster
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: preseason game is huge joint. The practices next week are
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: huge for a guy like that. Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: But I think he's positioned himself for this is no longer.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: This is no longer just a feel good story about
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: a guy that was substitute teaching last year during the season.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: This has turned into I mean, he was a good
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: player at Michigan State with bad quarterbacks.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and he could play special teams. I think he
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 12: is very much on the radar here to make.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: This football team. Let me, I want to stand the
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: office side the football for a second because and you
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: can tell me what you saw on Saturday. The running
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: back position is all of a sudden. I mean, listen,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: there there was those that would think it was somewhat
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: of a crisis situation with mil Ken Walker. Yes, they
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: dropped the Jedarim Price in the first round, he's been
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: out with general soreness. Doesn't sound like from Mike McDonald's
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: comments on Saturday, it's all that severe. But bottom line
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: is he's not out here. Wasn't out there Saturday, I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: got I would not expect to see him Saturday against
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Dallas Jedarian Price and then you've got Jacartia Rights banged
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: up as well. Yep, and he was very much in
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: the mix for a final running back spot. We know
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Charbona is on the pup list, Like, who the hell's
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: playing running back on Saturday against Dallas?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 12: Well, I would you know, we might see a little
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 12: Emmanuel Wilson. I'll be surprised if George Hallane plays like
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 12: you got to keep him in know, you got to
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 12: keep him in bubble wrapping. And you might say that
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 12: about Emmanuel Wilson too, but he might play a little
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 12: bit at.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: The beginning of the game.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 12: I would expect this is gonna be the Vealist Jones show.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 12: We're gonna see some TJ. Harden, Justin Jones or they
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 12: just signed undrafted rookie out of Auburn. I would expect
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 12: those are gonna be the guys that are gonna be
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 12: playing the entire game.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, it's way too early for it
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: be a crisis. But it's not the best situation in
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: the world because you're like to have some of your
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: running back step guys healthy, yep, to get going. But
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: there were some good runs on Saturday.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 9: There were yet.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: George Hallani had the best one.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 12: He had one of those oops and then it bounced
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 12: thirty yards and he got hung up on Charles Cross
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 12: and uh to the point where he's small enough, I
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 12: don't think the defense saw him behind Charles Cross, and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 12: then he bowled it outside and was gone thirty yards
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 12: before he got pushed out of bounds.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Wilson had a couple runs.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 12: The guy I will say this, Manuel Wilson, he's been
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 12: one of the guys that has really impressed me in
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 12: this camp, just just for the fact he's two hundred
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 12: and thirty pounds but he's in really good shape.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: Like this isn't an Eddie Lacy situation.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Well, just stay with him for a second, because I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: think he mentioned it to you guys, and it's been
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: said we kind of thought this guy's a power back
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: for what people watching every day, you and others watching
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: every day, and I think we think. Mil Wilson even
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: talked about it like, Hey, I'm I'm not a slug
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: like I think people think I'm slow.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 12: He feels like he's faster than people give him credit.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 12: He's got a good accelerator at two hundred and thirty pounds.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 12: He gets up to speed quick, and you could tell
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 12: he wants the real pad stuff to come out, like
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 12: when even they've had these padded practices, like they're doing
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 12: thump or thud pacing where they're wrapping guys up there.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 12: They're hitting hard, but then they stop. They don't ping
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 12: guys in the ground. Yeah, you can just tell though,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 12: like he is just craving the opportunity to just plow
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 12: over somebody. But he's quick, and they've been able to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 12: run the outside zone with him, and he gets to
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 12: that edge and he can turn up field. That is
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 12: a big boy rumbling and bumbling down the field.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: I they just got to get price healthy. Yep, that's
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: the thing you wrote about it, Nick emn Warri for
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: those stressed out about that is getting closer.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he's practicing. Within a week, week and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 12: a half, I think he's that close.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: He was out there.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 12: This might sound crazy to our listeners. But like he
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 12: was out there playing catch with Jeff Howard's two kids
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 12: and he was actually dropping back shuffling like he was
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 12: playing quarterback on that ankle and looked really good on it.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 12: Like that, to me is the kind of movement that
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 12: this quick after surgery, I'd be feeling pretty good about
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 12: where he's at. Yeah, I expect that he's gonna if
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 12: he hasn't already started doing some running, that that's coming
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 12: pretty quick.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 11: Well.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Corbyn Smith joining his Emerald City Spectrum. You can check
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: all his work out at Emeral Cityspectrum dot com and
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: got some great stuff up there. Recap of Saturday and
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: daily practice updates as well from Corbyn Smith. Just the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: thing with even worry that what got people losing their
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: mind was a okay, well, first of all, he's on
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: pup to start training camp and we're like, okay, great,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: that's not good, and then you know, we don't really
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: see him. And then last week on Hard Knocks, the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: first thing you see is a visual of him gone
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: a scooter talking to Mike McDonald, not putting any weight
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: at all on the ankle, and you're like, okay, what
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: the hell's going on here? And as we literally two
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: days or three days after the surgery. Yeah, we were
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: pointing that out. It wasn't like people were watching. It
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: was like, no, no, it's by then, he'd already he'd
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: already been he'd already got it going right. So it
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: was we're that was fine the and now was running
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: around so hopefully on track to open that first day.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Let's stay on that defensive side of the football for
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: a second if we can't, And and let's talk about
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: aj Finley. Everyone's raving about his game. What a story
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 12: There's actually been a pretty bad track record of severe
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 12: injuries happening in these football fan fest I mean remember
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 12: Brandon Jackson's injury with the neck, and Kenny Mack and
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 12: Tosh his rookie year had a pretty bad.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: It was Finley.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Finley was jumping up for a pick and he
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 12: and Rik Wollen were both going forward and came down
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 12: awkwardly towards a cl and pretty much a year to
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 12: the day, it's like a third play of the scrimmage period,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 12: picks off Sam Darnell. Uh that's you know, like he said,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 12: somebody was looking over him with that apparently, but it
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 12: was it was awesome to see that and just another
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 12: guy that is, you know, because of his special team's
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 12: ability still have to be you still have to account
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 12: for him in that competition.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: So where does he fit in the safety room? Because
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: that's if if even Worry's healthy, let's just go through it,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: love Ocata, Bud Clark, even Worry and all even where
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: he's not really a safety per se, but the Anthony Bell,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: how are you want to go?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 12: He is a unicorn and I know that we've thrown
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 12: that around before, but he's truly the unicorn position.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: So where does where does a J. Finley fit in
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: in that process?
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 12: I still think that he's on the outside looking in
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 12: because I think Rodney Thomas is on this team and.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: The Anthony Bell is your he is your even Warri
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: and sure he's playing.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think Rodney Thomas, I think they keep
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 12: six safeties Nick even Warry is going to be playing everywhere,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 12: So it's a little different on that front, but you're
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 12: going to really have five pure safeties.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: I think the corner group is going to be impacted
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: by that. Well, what's your take on the Terry and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Arnold situation?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 12: You know we don't you and I we don't know
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 12: all the details, we don't have all the evidence in front.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 12: I'd be staying from that, like the plague right personally,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 12: but there are some reasons why I believe. In fact,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 12: I talked to two people that work in Tuscaluska a Tuscaloosa,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 12: that work with Alabama's football program, that cover Alabama, and
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 12: they told me, even though Carl Scott did not coach him,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 12: Carl Scott left in twenty twenty one to go to
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 12: the NFL, he recruited Terry on Arnold, and so there's
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 12: that connection. And oh, by the way, Terry on Arnold's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 12: best friend is on this team, Jalen Milroe. Those two
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 12: are very close. So Seattle might be looking at this
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 12: as a situation where, hey, we get him in a
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 12: locker room with Jaln Milroe again, because Nick Saban is
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 12: still speaking for him.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: Nick Saban loves the kid.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 12: And we know how close John Schnyder is to Nick Saban.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: So well, if he were to he's got a court
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: hearing on Thursday, if he were to be cleared of everything,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: if that were to happen, like you're talking about a
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: high end former first round.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 12: Pick, he's this guy the Seahawks absolutely loved, and part
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 12: of it was because Carl Scott was on the staff.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 12: They loved him in that draft a few years ago.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 12: He's a really good player. He's been up and down
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 12: in a couple of years in Detroit. He's had a
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 12: few injuries. But he would certainly be a fun talent
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 12: addition to what they have. I just have I have
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 12: significant questions based on the stuff that I've read, and again,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 12: we need is it for them?
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: If he was a running back, I'd be saying, Yeah,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: that's a great idea.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 12: I still think I think he'd be an upgrade over
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 12: what they have. Yeah, I think he could push Job immediately.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 12: And those guys were on the same team in twenty
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 12: twenty one, Like he could push him.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I don't know. I here's here's
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: the other issue.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: With this ian.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 12: Like he could get you know, he could get off
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 12: Scotch free with this in the NFL could still suspend
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 12: him six games.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: We've seen him do it. There's precedent for that.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: We go corpor Smith n Will spectrum here. They're in
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: full pass today. Again we're not really I'll just Corny
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Will have stuff written up later on what you can
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: on what's going on. What's the biggest competition in camp
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 12: That sixth receiver spot, okay, or the third corner position.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 12: I would say, I think Neami approach it's getting some
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: distance there though. Uh, he's been pretty good at high
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 12: on him throughout camp. He's he's done well. He's playing
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 12: against JSN every day, so he's gonna give up some
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 12: big catches, but he's also made some picks when he's
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 12: been defending Jaysent. I think Neiami Approach it is clearly
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 12: the number three guy right now. He's he's just getting
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 12: the vast majority of the opportunities out there the sixth
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 12: receiver spot though it seems like it's.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: Still very old.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, So what who are you who in terms of veterans,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: like guys that have been here for a while, which
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: name veterans or veteran might be a guy that you
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: maybe have concerns about right now?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 12: I don't have any like established vets that I'm now.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: I mentioned this the other day. I think that Igbinoghany
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 12: is one of their fifty three best players. However, he's
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 12: on a one year deal. Isn't expensive? Yeah, we've seen
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 12: Seattle cut guys like that in initial cuts to keep
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 12: youngsters that they're worried about going through waivers. I would
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 12: put him in that in that category. I think Salbert
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 12: is another one that they've they've already done that with
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 12: before that I could see them doing that with. I
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 12: don't think they'll do it with the Anthony Bell this
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 12: time because of that, you can't afford for him to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 12: get claimed. Yeah, so I would. But those are the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 12: two names I would throw out there that you know,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 12: would would potentially be guys that could get cut that
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 12: the Seahawks are still gonna want to pay back. But
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 12: you know, you got to play that game, like who's
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 12: who's going to be the best bet to slip through waivers?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: This is as I think he was being cut, So
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: it's it's fact in fact, it's the opposite. Are they
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: gonna try to get Tyree Knight on the field more?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: Do you think?
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 12: I'm very intrigued by him as a situational pass rusher
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 12: because he did it a lot at UTAPS and he's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 12: like even worries big enough to rush? Is a back
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 12: built guy right that that has some pass rushing acumen
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 12: because UTEP used him that way, so I could see
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 12: him getting a handful of snaps a game in that capacity.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up being your fifth edge guy. Interesting. Uh, finally,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk more as week goes on. I would
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: assume the preseason will be very much the Jalen Milroe show.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much they'll throw a lock out there.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming maybe Locke it's a series on Saturday. Maybe,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, depending on what you're doing with your
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: off I mean, you're not going to be starting off
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: its a line out there, probably, so not sure how
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: much you'd want your backup quarterback in there, who is
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: an integral part of what you're gonna do if something
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: God forbid happened to Darnold. So let's talk about the
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: other guy, Jaylen Milroe, who seems to have taken steps
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: forward from a year ago. How big is the preseason
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: for him? And what do you expect to see from
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: this guy.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 12: It's funny because when we were in this conversation three
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 12: days into camp, it was the opposite. But I told
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 12: it was awful. That light switch. All it took is
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 12: that light switch to come on. And you know what
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 12: I've really noticed here in the last couple of weeks
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 12: with him, it's kind of that light switch has been
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 12: all about just being assertive, like instead of I'm taking
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 12: these little dump offs, I'm being cautious. He has been
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 12: airing it out, He's using his R and he just
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 12: looks more confident with his reads now. With that, and
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 12: we've seen guys like my Tory Foster I mentioned earlier,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 12: My Tory Foster has been his favorite target, Like he's
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 12: been throwing to him a lot. Ricky White the Third's
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 12: had a lot more plays this camp than we saw
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 12: in his rookie year.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: And he's been playing a lot.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 12: And look, they're putting Elijah Royo with him sometimes because I.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Think they are we going to see him in the preseason.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: That's the question. He's had a hell of a camp, He's.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: Had a health It was my decision. I'd say hell no. Yeah.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think especially with Aj Barner, he's been
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 12: out here, but Barner's coming off a couple surgeries. I'm
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 12: putting those two in bubble wrap, and I'm I'm letting
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 12: Nick caller up and some of those guys get the repsit. Yeah,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 12: And I think Nick Vannette is a veteran, you can
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 12: play him in these preseasons.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Well, Vannett's here is an insurance policy. Is he a
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: guy that they think, Okay, listen, he's gonna be here,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: we can probably slide him through waivers, practice squad destroyed
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: Barner or something like that. Yeah, that's what he looks like.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: You still got a little juice in the lags. Oh yeah,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: I think he's.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 12: Still a decent player. I just I don't know where
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 12: you put him on the roster because Brady Russell is
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 12: going to be here, and.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: We have we heard anything on Robbie.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: We have not.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 12: Mike McDonald continues to tell us absolutely nothing on that front.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 12: So that but the fact that they went out and
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 12: signed the fullback that played for Thomas Hammock for three
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 12: years in Northern Illinois, that still seems to me like
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 12: there's concern there.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see pretty significant concern.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: And that was a good fullback, by the way.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 12: I actually, in the in one of my mock drafts
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 12: a couple of years ago, had a seventh round pick
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 12: for Seattle with him rock Lamp. He's a good player, Okay,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 12: two hundred and fifty pounds. It looks like he's one
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 12: of those very you and I talked about this last week.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: A lot.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 12: There's not a lot of those traditional bodied fullbacks. No,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 12: he is one of them, and he played linebacker his
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 12: first year. He's kind of got some nick Bloor to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 12: him in that regard those guys that have that body type.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: Now in college, they either put him at Mike linebacker,
• 1:39:35
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• 1:39:37
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  Speaker 6: Smell it.
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  Speaker 9: What yeah, smell it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it must be.
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  Speaker 12: It has to be.
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  Speaker 2: Smell is like it this football season? Oh? Yes, I
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: see it. It's right around the corner.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: Thank god.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: I'm so sick of this baseball team.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 6: Hey and depressed Seattle sports guy here. Yeah, well, fifty
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: years the Mariners went well, we got swept. Dave Valley
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: somehow made the list. Maybe they should have done fifty
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: four players for Jerry's sake or whatever blasphemy he speaks about.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: I missed the days.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 6: Donovan Solano on his bad average better than this crap.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know what to do when I go outside
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: and look at the sun.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 8: Dave Maller here, Baby, I don't know man. I heard
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 8: on Friday Dave said he didn't know who I was.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: Never heard it?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, guys, he's heard it plenty of times, guys.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: I mean, Maler knows who I am. Baby, OUs he
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: sees me down on freaking Motlake and I'm him. How
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: does he not know who he is? I know he's
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: lost his rockers since he stopped the Driving with Dave podcast,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: But come on, baby, he'll be down here freaking Montlake
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 8: watching the dogs practice lately better?
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, Travis, can you have that available for crosstalk. Please absolutely,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: thank you asking you shall receive. We asked for that
• 1:42:47
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Text messages four nine four five one. I'm scrolling through here.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: We asked earlier today, is this the most disappointing Mariner season?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: And I didn't ask you, Travis?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about it?
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 10: I've only been in Seattle for twenty three audios some twenty.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: Three years or so, right, I mean not only, but that's,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 7: you know, more than half of my life.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 10: I've seen some bad baseball seasons, some really bad losing seasons.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 10: But because of the expectations following last season, and because
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 10: the AL West is so bad and it's the.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 7: Top of the conference, is it within Rench it might be? Yeah,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 7: I think so.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: That's why I brought it up. All right, here we
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: go four nine four to five one. This is from
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: the two O six. Don't care about the fifty years.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: M's always convinced fans to celebrate their suckness. Give me
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: a title to celebrate, not that crap. I'll counter with
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: that with And Chris brought this up, and it's true.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: There have been some col I mean, we've got Hall
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: of Famer Ytril Hall of Famer aker, I mean he was.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know Randy wasn't here for the whole thing,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: but Hall of Famer ran he was out there as well.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: Whom I missing, Griffy Hall of Famer. Griffy Felix is
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: going to be a Hall of We've had good players here.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: The teams obviously haven't been there, but I understand the timing.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: The thing that brought me to incredible, uncontrollable tiers is
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: when the four Hall of Fame guys came out of
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: center field. It's hard hit heard, knowing how important those
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: guys were keeping baseball on sale. I think we should
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: never forget that that.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: This team.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: On a number of occasions the yardorous years smulling wasn't
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: any great thing either. There was some down times here,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: and Hall of Fame players, Hall of Fame moments helped
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: make sure that didn't happen. All right, Let's see first
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: twenty five years. At the time, we should have won
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: because revenue salaries were relatively close between the highs and
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: lows of the MLB. The last twenty years, revenue disparity
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: has increased to six hundred million between the highs and lows.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: That's the name of the payroll disparity and how twenty
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: five teams now are limited to finding developing them players
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: for losing their frequency. Sure, get that Tampa was here
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Not like they spend any money and they're
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: damn good. Uh it's being my counter to that. Not
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: only is this team unwatchable, I don't even listen on
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: the radio anymore. Well I wouldn't. I wouldn't listen to
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: the radio either, but that's just me.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: Two o six almost feels like there's a rift in
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: the clubhouse. They do not look like they're having fun
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: at all. That whole thing with Randy and Cal has
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: to have had some negative effects. They don't seem like
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: a cohesive unit at all. I know Randy has been
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: our best player this season, but he was a cancer
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: in Tampa. Maybe he's worn out as welcome to Seattle.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know what else to think. I can't speak.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: We're in a we're in a situation now. We're just
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: speculating on stuff, right, which I get. I think get
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: that Aaron Judge hasn't played since May thirty. First, he
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: still has five more home runs than the big slumper,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: A big slumper. Three six. So I don't understand how
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: this offense is so bad when it's almost the same
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: team as last year. Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. That
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: is crazy. Let's see what happened to playing small ball?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Move the runner over and produce a run. That's the
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: point of the game. No one in the lineup is
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: hitting anyways, moved the runners produced a dang ring. All
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: have to We'll have to bring Andrews back tomorrow. Talk
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: about bunting. It's his favorite thing in the world, right.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 7: That's that's Who doesn't love a good bunt?
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Two three six? So I think everyone agrees with the
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: Marriager suckfest this year, and I haven't heard anyone mention
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: a solution. Who should they have signed? Who should they
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: have traded and or traded for? Want Dan fire to
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: get it? But who replaces him? Listen, I I don't
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: roster makeup the roster structure. I mean, yeah, you're only
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: big acquisition with Donovan and he's just he's been hurt
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: all year.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: The thing is is you're returning the staff, and you're
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: returning not only you're returning the staff, you're returning effectively
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: your lineup without Polanco replaced by Donovan and Gino, right,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: and Gino was not going to be carrying this team offensively.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: They should, you know, Emerson and cole Young. Cole Young's
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: taking a step forward. Randy's been fine down can Zone's
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: been a relation at times. The problem is is your
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: key guys are not hitting. That's that's that's this doesn't
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: get it doesn't get that different than that. It's he's
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: not hitting. Your key guys are not hitting. Let's see
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people spec you on a Cal's personal life.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: I won't do that. I see it. I'm not doing it.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Ownership has never been about winning a World Series never.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: I it feels that way sometimes or a lot of times.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: I just don't think because we're just I mean to
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: look through here. A lot of people not happy about
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Valley being on the top fifty list. By the way,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: value is on the hell with job on the broadcast
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: this year? Take that other stuff aside has done a
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: good thing. Bringing lou out brought me to tears. I'm
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: only thirty two and seeing him brought back brought memories
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: of watching with my dad my dad love watching him
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: yell at the umpire's rip pops. I was emotional to
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: my nephew, said, who is lou Panella? Well, I guess
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: I'm molding now, I know. I had to kind of
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: explain that for a second to my youngest that that
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: was the greatest manager of Marior's history right there, This
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: guy's lou Panela. If I had to list the top
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: three priories, this is from the two of six. If
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: I had a listed top three priories from the three
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: decade plus ownership one maximizing profit, two fan experience three
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: have a quote competitive team winning might not even be
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth either a competitive but the ballgame experience
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: the ball got is you know, I was just walking
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: around travel on Friday yesterday, rather yeap, just walking around.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Our seats are kind of we're kind of baking the sun,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: so we need to take a break for an entering
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: or two and not just until the sun went behind
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: the clouds or behind the roof, because it was hot
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: as hot as hell, and I'm walking around and I'm
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: just kind of marveling at the at the ballpark. And
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: what I guess I would just call the fan experience
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: the ballpark and it's fantastic. It just is. Everything about
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: it's great. I mean the area is actually pretty cool too.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: I know that we wish there were more things down there,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: but really, frankly, if you if you walk a few
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: feet and go to the Occidental Beer Hall and there's
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: some other stuff over new Brewery where FX used to
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: be in some other places, they got all the hot
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: dogs everywhere, and go find those, and you know, I
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: always buy a bag of peanuts walking in. Everything about
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: it's great, except for we just haven't had a consistent winner,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: or more importantly, we haven't had Because they'll argue that
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: they have been winning the last few years. I'd argue
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: with this, they haven't had contending teams often enough, if ever,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: and that's a bummer and that and that's really a
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: bummer as well. Most successful stint this season was during
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: piggyback We should have better better bearing up Anderson and
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: piggybacking for sorry, if you just a number of bullpennings pitch,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: is that true? It feels like actually when they were piggybacking,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: it wasn't bad. I think they were actually pretty good.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: It was kind of a mixed bag.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 7: If I remember correctly.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Knox is getting me giddy for this upcoming season,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: says the two six. Here we go. So I think
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: we're good for now. I think the texts are good.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: Nobody's happy, everyone's mad. We'll take a break, We'll come
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: back with more. Nine three point three KJR FM.
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  Speaker 8: Dave Maler here, Baby, I don't know man. I heard
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 8: on Friday Dave said he didn't know who I was.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: Never heard it.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, guys, he's heard it plenty of times.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 8: I mean, Maler knows who I am. Baby, obvious he
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 8: sees me down on freaking Montlake.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm him. How does he not know who he is?
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 8: I know he's lost his rockers since he stopped it
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 8: Driving with Dave podcast, But come on, baby, help me
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 8: down here freaking Mottlake watching the dogs practice lately.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 13: Bet the Driving with Dave podcast came to an end
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 13: because my wife yelled at me, yes, it's not safe.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 5: That's why I came to an end.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's every I think that's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: better than the Ian for now. Guy.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 13: That one, yeah, well you should have heard the one.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 13: Gina had one this morning that I got. I wish
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 13: I was rolling tape on it. It was unbelievable. Who
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 13: was she imitating me?
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: Outstanding? Somebody's got to get her to tape it. That's
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: sucks all He's dead? What that was going on?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 13: That was pretty good? What do they say that imitation
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 13: is great flattery? Something about all that?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: Whatever? Is that really true?
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 5: Is that really true?
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: It depends, It depends, It depends, It depends. How are
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: we doing?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: Good? Good?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 6: Good?
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Jeez? Is that better?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: That was aggressive?
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: You turn yourself up here to sound better?
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: Are you not an engineer?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: What am I? What?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: You're an engineer?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 13: All of us are engineering engineers, board operators on air,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 13: talent salesman, talents, loose personalities, I guess.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, So how would you describe what happened
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: the last three days?
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 13: Just okay, I mean I'm looking up synonyms for a
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 13: disaster to start the show today.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: Fiasco is one of them.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 13: There's just no team in sports that just does an
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 13: incredible job of pissing away prosperity than our baseball team.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 13: It is uncanny, right, I mean a year ago? Hell,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 13: I just you know, I looked it up a year
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 13: ago where a half game out of first place, where
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 13: ten games over five hundred. They had just traded for
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 13: Gino and Naylor and turd Ferguson, and we're all fired
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 13: up from outside Ferguson trade, go to game seven, We're
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 13: all fired up for the offseason. This is gonna be
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 13: the year. And then right, just a wet blanket man.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: When they made that move, those moves last year especially,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: We'll take turn out of it for a second.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 5: But the other two worked out pretty good, worked out
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 5: pretty good.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: The the level of excitement here, Hey, they're doing something.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: They went out and dress those two needs and now
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: the needs.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 13: I mean, at the time, we didn't know that turd
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 13: Ferguson was gonna be was gonna be a turd.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: Thought it was a good deal.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 13: I mean, I would have rather had the guy from
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 13: the Twins, but whatever, they went out and got a reliever,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 13: you know, because to me, it's all about just the philosophy, right.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: Who knows if you got the right guy. Only time
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: will tell on that.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 13: But you needed pop in your lineup, You needed a
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 13: first basement, You had to have a third baseman. They
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 13: overcome the Polanco experiment, which was a disaster from the start,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 13: and here they are, and you know today you wake
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 13: up and man, I stayed for the home run derby
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 13: Friday night.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: Did you go to that?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: By the way?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 13: Okay, So I stayed, and about halfway through, I just said,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 13: I can't do it, Like, I'm not enjoying this and
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 13: it's a great event.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: It was a fun time.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: So you just stay for isro No, it left.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: It's too pissed off. This is a sour mood, dude.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't blame it.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: Sour mood.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 13: I get m's get beat to nothing, can't score a run,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 13: can't muster a run, and then Julio's out there playing
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 13: DJ Jazzy Jeff in center field.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: Right, I'm like, what are we doing here?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: You and I don't blame them for doing it either,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: because you can't just cancel events.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 13: You can't just decide the day before the day before
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 13: that you want to host an alumni home run derby.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 13: You can't decide the day before, the day before the
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 13: day before that you want to have fifty guys fly
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 13: into town or whatever it was forty five to represent
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 13: Mariner history. Like and you just cross your fingers and
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 13: hope to God if you're Kevin Martinez that the baseball
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 13: team's playing well to not put everybody in a pissed
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 13: off mood.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: Well, so much for that, right, It's just it's uncanny, dude.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Not only not only do you lose Friday with that
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: and the DJ Jase Jeff and you said, as you.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 5: Said it DJ Jazzy Julio.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so then okay, well you know what,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: just bounce just bounce back. Win Saturday, get a get
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: a series, win wins Saturday. Right, you got the fifty,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: you got to You've got effing loop. Andell's come out,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: like coming out and throwing out the first pitch, right,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: which was a phenomenal, phenomenal Rick Riz gets a surprise
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: and he's in the Hall of Fame. You got all
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: this emotion, and you know, Alvin Davis, we believe in
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: you and all this stuff. And you know, somebody mentioned
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: this that was covering the game for a local outlet
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: that I was talking to today and said, you look
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: into the dugout and all you see is just like, yeah.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: They're just waiting for October. It's they're just waiting for October.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 13: And whether that's right or wrong, it doesn't really matter,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 13: because that's the perception, right, And you know I said this.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: He could be wrong, but totally it doesn't matter, That's
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 13: For all we know, cal Raley just threw a you know,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 13: bucket of bats in the shower, but we're not going
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 13: to hear about it because nobody talks anymore. I mean, honestly, like,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 13: what was the last time And maybe maybe after the
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 13: dust up with Spire we heard from Cal? I don't know,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 13: but it feels like it's been forever since we've heard
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 13: from Cal Julio.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: Naylor of Rose Arena. Where's the owner? You know, where's
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: that guy at?
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: How about hearing from him? That'd be nice.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 13: I mean, Jerry spoke I think a few days ago,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 13: right to the assembled media down there at T Mobile Park,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 13: and I really hope they don't do the same thing
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 13: they did a year ago where Jerry's you know, season
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 13: ending press conference is a Sunday afternoon. Hey, you got
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 13: a half an hour to get here during football season,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 13: during football season, hastily put together deal, Why don't you
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 13: actually show some accountability?
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 13: And I'm not sitting here saying that Jerry needs to
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 13: be the one to show accountability for himself. I mean,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 13: he's made mistakes, but there's a lot of other people too.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 13: How about you have a season ending presser. You give
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 13: us a day or two days to figure it out.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 13: T Mobile Park, Monday afternoon, Tuesday afternoon, two o'clock whatever,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 13: Jerry Depoto, Holvender, Dan Wilson, John Stanton, they're all gonna
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 13: be there, right, would that be nice?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: Nice? You're gonna like this because it involves you. I
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: heard a line, must be good. Then I heard a line.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was a year ago because we talked about, Hey,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: they don't do the preseason thing anymore, and the postseason
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: things are what you just said, hastily called and and
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: when most people in the you know, media not named
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: the beat writer. When there's one of them, there's one
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: and a half, it's whoever for the Times that day
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: of Jude or Divish that are independent beat writers. But
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: they'll they this was the quote. They don't want to
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: have another situation where Aaron Levine or Dave Maler are
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: firing questions at Jerry to put him. That was an
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: exact quote. Yeah, they don't want that.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 5: I don't have to tell you, man.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: I mean it's look, man, you know where it comes
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: from it comes from the.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 13: Fifty five am. I mean, I'm I'm Jerry's good. Jerry's
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 13: good for the meeting, He's very good. You should put
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 13: him out there. Sometimes he says the wrong stuff, but
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 13: I will I will give him, not that he needs
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 13: to get credit, because it's stuff he should be doing anyways,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 13: like the Chris Rock I take care of my kids.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 5: Right right, I mean, he should be doing this stuff.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 13: But he seems to have put the you know, kind
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 13: of stubborn side, you know, aside for a while, and
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 13: so I'm fine with that, but I just like.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 5: Where's the leadership man, where's the accountability? Where? Where?
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 13: Where are the leaders of this baseball team? I mean,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 13: God bless Dan Wilson. But he's reading from the same
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 13: chapter from his cliche book every single night.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he just doesn't change.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: He's just trying to avoid saying tough.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: That's just who he is, right, who he is.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: He's trying to avoid saying tough one. Well, should they
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: have good say tough one tonight?
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: But he said difficult day. Yeah, yesterday after the sweep, do.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: You think we should have had the top fifty four players?
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: And oh that would have been hilarious that.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: Nelly still have been left off.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 13: Probably probably, I mean, he wasn't even invited. They didn't
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 13: want him from the start, which is a joke.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 9: I mean.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 13: And that's another thing that people have these perceptions of
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 13: the franchise. And again, whether they're right or wrong, they
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 13: sure do a hell of a job feeding into him. Man,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 13: they do a hell of a job feeding into him.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 13: What you do today, we'll talk about that obviously a lot.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 13: Byron Murphy ninety one after practice. Very nice, very good
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 13: jump on Melon's gonna jump on Bill Krueger's gonna jump
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 13: on Jackson's back.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: Dick is back. Whoa gang's all here?
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we got the whole week, and then
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 5: Dick's out again next week.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: So okay, Bulgar, thanks love Bunny. Two shows. Thanks Boger,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: youh good job, Boger. All right see it?
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the inverness,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: this is paddle day saying so long everyone,