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#2529 - Zach Bush · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Podcast check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Regan experience Drain My Day Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Rogan podcast, by Night all day.
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  Speaker 2: Stick with the water from that, I've never figured out
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  Speaker 2: how to do the coffee thing.
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  Speaker 3: You never figured out coffee.
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  Speaker 2: No, really do tea things?
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  Speaker 3: Well, drink tea. He's nice.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably better for you, I guess. But man, it's
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  Speaker 1: so hard to know. Well, here, I'll ask you because
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  Speaker 1: you're a health expertutconvene there, because there's all this conflicting
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  Speaker 1: information about coffee. Like some people say, coffee is really
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  Speaker 1: good for you, it's like an amazing antioxidant and there's
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  Speaker 1: all these positive health benefits, and other people say, no,
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  Speaker 1: it dehydrates you, it's bad for you, it's too much caffeine,
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  Speaker 1: it's bad for your What do you think I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is one of the next advancements of humankind.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to stop demonizing anything nature's provided and we're
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  Speaker 2: to start looking at our relationship to it instead. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a fun amount your relationship to coffee
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  Speaker 2: that's going to determine whether it's a health benefit or
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  Speaker 2: detrimental to who you are. There's been so many fad diets,
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  Speaker 2: so many fad moments, and the science has never supported
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  Speaker 2: any of it. The science is always looking at the
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  Speaker 2: human system as if it's an isolated system, then studies
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  Speaker 2: the impact of a chemical caffeine or otherwise on it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not an isolated system, and so if coffee is
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  Speaker 2: part of a complex ecosystem of your microbiome, the soil
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  Speaker 2: systems of your body, then it's going to supercharge you
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  Speaker 2: into health. But if coffee sits there as a drug
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  Speaker 2: that is bypassing the felt sense of being a human,
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  Speaker 2: then you're probably undermining your potential to be alive fully
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  Speaker 2: and it's becoming a distraction to.
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  Speaker 3: Life, or you're doing your best to be a good
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  Speaker 3: office worker. Why it's the one drug they provide at.
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  Speaker 2: Work Exactly if you're committed to machine like behavior, it's
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  Speaker 2: your best asset.
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  Speaker 1: It is kind of interesting that caffeine is the one
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  Speaker 1: drug that is provided at most offices.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that that's indirectly true. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the one drug that's most provided at offices is actually
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  Speaker 2: performance based, machine like reward systems.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so human ingrained drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The brain contains every neural chemical you'd want to
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  Speaker 2: control behavior, and so we've created office environments that reward
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  Speaker 2: machine like behavior for one hundred and fifty years, and
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  Speaker 2: so this is how we've ended up looking like we
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  Speaker 2: do as a humankind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very bizarre pattern that we've found ourselves in that
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  Speaker 1: was created to make better office workers. So we've molded
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  Speaker 1: human behavior around office work. We've molded human behavior around
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that people really, for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be doing, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was blessed to sit by thousands of deathbeds.
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  Speaker 2: Is my third sub especially in medicine, was hospice sat
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  Speaker 2: by thousands of deathbeds. And not a single person ever
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  Speaker 2: told me a day of their life in an office
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  Speaker 2: And they just don't even remember it's right, consuming forty
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  Speaker 2: hours a week of their life, and and it just
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  Speaker 2: is a I can't compute. It doesn't integrate into your
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  Speaker 2: soul experience at the end of things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you're making a ton of money, Like
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're still locked up
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  Speaker 1: for eight hours a day doing something you probably don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're getting into a big piece right here,
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  Speaker 2: Like this is really the secret of everything is when
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  Speaker 2: did humans become abstract? When did we stop being living systems?
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  Speaker 1: So do you think that that's just our ego, our
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  Speaker 1: delusions that allow us to think that we're not a system,
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  Speaker 1: that we're just this is me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Mike. I know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna drink my coffee and go to work
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  Speaker 1: because that's what you do. You have a job, you
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  Speaker 1: get it done. And then there's like these narratives that
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  Speaker 1: get reinforced to the media, like the guy who shows
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  Speaker 1: up for work every day doing a job.
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  Speaker 3: It sucks. The guy's a hero, right, we love those guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it that writes poetry and sits in his backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Oh fucking hippy. You know that ne'er do well. He's
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  Speaker 1: not unless he sells a bunch of books.
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  Speaker 3: And then we're like, thin guy was a genius. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, then he's got to rest.
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  Speaker 1: I think what you said about the relationship to coffee
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  Speaker 1: is really important because I think that could be the
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  Speaker 1: case with virtually everything in life. You know, like there's
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  Speaker 1: you could get addicted to almost anything and you could
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  Speaker 1: use something anything as a crutch, whether it's so many
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  Speaker 1: people use food. I mean, food is probably one of
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  Speaker 1: the biggest ones humans use. You don't feel good, have
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  Speaker 1: some fucking food. You eat some food you don't want,
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be eating, but you're like, fuck it, I'm
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  Speaker 1: having ring dings, I'm tired today, sucked at work, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a hot dog on the way home.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And I think that's why you've You've
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  Speaker 2: done twenty eight hundred podcasts or something like this. You've
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  Speaker 2: been at this for sixteen years, and I think this
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  Speaker 2: podcast is ready for the most disruptive conversation that's ever
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  Speaker 2: been had.
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  Speaker 3: I think that this one right here, that's this one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what's the most disruptive thing that you could say
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  Speaker 1: in the most disruptive conversation it's ever been had?
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  Speaker 3: Everything is perfect? What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: It means that everything that's happening right now is actually
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  Speaker 2: a perfect manifestation of a maturation of a species. We
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  Speaker 2: don't actually have a poly crisis going on. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a hospice moment. And the joy that I had as
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  Speaker 2: a hospice doctor was so different than when I was
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  Speaker 2: running ICUs and battling against death and failing against death.
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  Speaker 3: Every day. You change your perspective for.
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  Speaker 2: A moment as a doctor, and you suddenly are sitting
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  Speaker 2: by somebody's bed and the victory is no longer staying
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  Speaker 2: alive longer. It's integrating everything that's happened. And I got
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  Speaker 2: to watch over and over again how humans at that
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  Speaker 2: last few minutes of life suddenly look back and realized
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  Speaker 2: their life was perfect. And I think that's the exciting
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  Speaker 2: moment we're in is we're going to move past this
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  Speaker 2: polarized state of human perspective where we keep flipping the
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  Speaker 2: victim perpetrator code and we use the savior mentality to
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  Speaker 2: keep that victim perpetrator coin flipping to keep a mirage going.
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  Speaker 2: And we can get into why we created the mirage
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  Speaker 2: in the first place. But in the hospice moment, you
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  Speaker 2: suddenly put that coin down and somebody starts dipping across
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  Speaker 2: the veil of the limited five senses of their brain
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  Speaker 2: and they start feeling an ecstatic moment where they realize,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, the whole thing was poetically perfect, all
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  Speaker 2: of the heartbreak, all of the estrangement, all of the disappointment,
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  Speaker 2: all the insecurity. I did that for the experience and
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  Speaker 2: I felt everything. I felt everything a human can feel.
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  Speaker 2: And you get to see somebody who just a moment ago,
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  Speaker 2: really thought their life was a failure, you know, difficult
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  Speaker 2: time with their kids, never became successful in their jobs,
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  Speaker 2: and they suddenly realized it had nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: any of those metrics. It had to do with the
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  Speaker 2: experience of feeling everything a human being as capable of,
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  Speaker 2: which is probably one of the most unique experiences the
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  Speaker 2: soul can have. We are very strange species for the
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  Speaker 2: limitations of our perception, and for that we get to
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  Speaker 2: feel a lot and that's really blessed. And so I
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  Speaker 2: think we're moving towards this moment as a species. Now
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  Speaker 2: we've we're on our hospice bed and we've been here
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  Speaker 2: three hundred thousand years in our current form. We've been
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  Speaker 2: given our hospice diagnosis. We've got a few decades left
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  Speaker 2: in this current form. At that moment, when we put
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  Speaker 2: down that victim perpetrator polarized sense of like he's right,
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  Speaker 2: she's wrong, she's right, he's wrong, we set that coin down,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to suddenly have a hospice moment where everything
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  Speaker 2: suddenly makes sense and we understand why if we did
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  Speaker 2: the journey together, we realize that those that we thought
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  Speaker 2: were our enemies or the biggest problems of our lives.
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  Speaker 2: We're holding polarity to a human experience as waiting for
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  Speaker 2: our deathbed moment. Because about ten percent of hospice patients
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  Speaker 2: don't die, they get discharged, just go on to living
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  Speaker 2: near line.
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  Speaker 1: This is a wonderful perspective if sociopaths weren't real. So
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  Speaker 1: the problem is there is an aspect of our society
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  Speaker 1: where there are human beings whose minds don't function in
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  Speaker 1: a harmonious manner with other people and they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to change, like this is who they are, and they've
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  Speaker 1: been doing this their entire life, and they're out on
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  Speaker 1: the street and.
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  Speaker 2: They've sat across from you right here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we had a guy in the studio that cut
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  Speaker 1: a guy's head off. After the podcast, he killed a
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  Speaker 1: guy and cut his head off. So there's work that
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  Speaker 1: I do with my friend Josh Dubin. He used to
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  Speaker 1: work for the Innocence Project and now he works for
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  Speaker 1: the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, and it's all wrongly
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  Speaker 1: incarcerated people and getting them out of jail and spends
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  Speaker 1: an incredible amount of zone resources helping people and through
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, a bunch of people have been released, so
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to do a podcast episode where we had
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  Speaker 1: one of the guys who had been in prison. He
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  Speaker 1: was guilty but been given an extraordinarily long sentence and
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  Speaker 1: it was wrong. And he comes on. He tells about
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  Speaker 1: his experience and he got released early, but he did
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  Speaker 1: like twenty five years in jail for I believe it
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  Speaker 1: was something along the lines of drug dealing and maybe
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  Speaker 1: some sort of an assault. Twenty five years of his
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  Speaker 1: life when he was a young kid. He does the
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  Speaker 1: podcast and then afterwards goes and visits this guy that
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  Speaker 1: apparently had a beef with, kills him, cuts his head off,
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  Speaker 1: puts him in a suit like, puts a wig on,
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  Speaker 1: tries to escape in the hallway through the cameras. I
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  Speaker 1: guess he doesn't understand HD cameras because they haven't been
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  Speaker 1: around for twenty five years. You know, he's sitting right there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks later, he's cutting a
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  Speaker 1: guy's head off. Yeah, you're gonna this idea that everything's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: It's not perfect for the guy who got his head
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  Speaker 1: cut off, you know what I mean. It's not perfect
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  Speaker 1: for a person who becomes victim to these sociopaths that
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  Speaker 1: are amongst us. If everybody was just a person and
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  Speaker 1: everybody was genuinely trying to do better in life, I
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  Speaker 1: would agree, but I would think that this is a
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  Speaker 1: part of this bizarre experience that we're all going through
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  Speaker 1: as a species. And I agree with you that there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things changing, and there's a narrative that
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  Speaker 1: exists about what it means to be a person that's
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  Speaker 1: entirely based up on what we described earlier. It's based
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  Speaker 1: on office work, like it's based on nonsense, it's based
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  Speaker 1: on four oh one K plans, it's not based on
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  Speaker 1: human experiences, and it's really dumb. It's not it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: help any and everybody gets to the end, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you know this more than anybody. They get to
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  Speaker 1: the end and they never say I wish I worked more. Never, never, never,
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I know you love with you do.
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  Speaker 3: I know you love what you do.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that is the true way to live
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  Speaker 1: life in a harmonious way. Find a thing where it's
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  Speaker 1: even work is not really work. It's just stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you enjoy doing, that's interesting, that you're required to do.
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  Speaker 1: But while you do what you love it. That's what
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  Speaker 1: we should all strive for. And this fucking programming that
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  Speaker 1: we've done to children from the time that we're young,
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  Speaker 1: telling them that you know, you're gonna have to get
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  Speaker 1: some boring ass job and doom. They will like have
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  Speaker 1: it hang over your head, like one day you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be eighteen and then you're gonna have to get a job.
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  Speaker 3: Oh fuck, and if.
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  Speaker 1: You don't go to college, it's gonna be a terrible job.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's just this we've been programmed that. Like
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that keeps coming up about AI
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  Speaker 1: is the concept of universal basic income or what Elon
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  Speaker 1: likes to say, universal high income, that we're all going
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  Speaker 1: to just have money for food and money for housing,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have this incredibly rich society where there's
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  Speaker 1: so much money that no one really has to work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And so then you're gonna have to find purpose doing
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  Speaker 1: something that you enjoy. And that sounds crazy to people.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds so insane, like like I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what to do with my life and I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to work for money anymore. Because if you're
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  Speaker 1: if the government just gives everyone in the country a
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  Speaker 1: half a million dollars a year. What do you The
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  Speaker 1: idea that you can't figure out what to do with
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  Speaker 1: your time is really nuts. That is a failure of
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  Speaker 1: our education system for sure, because we haven't taught people
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  Speaker 1: to be curious and to find out these cool things
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  Speaker 1: and to find new people and go to interesting places
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  Speaker 1: and experience life. No, we've only told them about a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of numbers that you don't even feel. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't even feel the numbers. The numbers go up,
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  Speaker 1: they go down, you don't even notice it. But you
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  Speaker 1: feel everything as a person. Everywhere you go, all the
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  Speaker 1: new people you meet, all the new experiences you have,
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  Speaker 1: you feel all of them. And for whatever weird reason,
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  Speaker 1: we've been tricked into thinking that numbers are more valuable
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  Speaker 1: than the feelings. Numbers that you don't even feel.
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  Speaker 2: You've just nailed the most important message for humanity. You
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  Speaker 2: just nailed the most important message. Feeling is the only
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  Speaker 2: relevant thing to a human body.
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  Speaker 1: And we got stuck anything, We got stuck with numbers.
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  Speaker 1: We got stuck with number as soon as they figured out,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as they figured out how to make money
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  Speaker 1: and put it in banks, and then now in the cloud.
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  Speaker 1: So as they gave us a number to fixate on,
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  Speaker 1: we're like, oh, the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: So it's so weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing that people haven't figured out
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  Speaker 1: that that's a bad way to live.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe that will.
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  Speaker 1: Be part of the process with this whole technological innovation,
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  Speaker 1: this crazy moment in history that we're at right now
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  Speaker 1: with AI, where we really, for the first time have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what the world's going to look like in
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  Speaker 1: ten years.
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  Speaker 3: We just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe like this would be like a perfect the
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  Speaker 1: two things happen at the same time where enough people
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  Speaker 1: are saying this is not what life is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be about. And then this comes along and reworks all
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  Speaker 1: of our infrastructure and now we no longer need people
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  Speaker 1: to run things anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we can go back to being people.
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  Speaker 1: That's the rosy, rose colored glasses version of it, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know his rose cousin. I think it's inevitable.
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  Speaker 2: I think bodies always win. There's no way a machine
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  Speaker 2: ever wins this game. There's no way that a machine
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  Speaker 2: that requires external energy systems and cannot repair itself wins.
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  Speaker 2: And so the whole elon musk future of the planet
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  Speaker 2: that we've been told is a massive distraction from the
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  Speaker 2: reality that's going to be lived instead of invented. There
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  Speaker 2: is only one pathway forward for humanity now, and it
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  Speaker 2: is biological, not technological. We're going to start to reverse
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  Speaker 2: our polarity on our belief of what technology is, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to realize that everything at its highest expression
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  Speaker 2: is biological, not chemical, not physical. It's biological. If it's
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  Speaker 2: not a living system, it loses. Ultimately, the universe has
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  Speaker 2: been innovating life for billions of years because it's the
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  Speaker 2: most eloquent, most elegant thing that's ever been expressed by
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  Speaker 2: all of the systems, all of the stacking geometry and
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  Speaker 2: beauty of this universe. It's life that's the secret of everything.
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  Speaker 2: And so anytime anybody comes along and says, here's a
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  Speaker 2: machine that's going to replace human xyz, you can smile,
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  Speaker 2: thank them, and keep moving for a biological solution. Anytime
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  Speaker 2: somebody says here's an ivy drip, here's a new red
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  Speaker 2: light that you can hang on your wall make you healthier,
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  Speaker 2: you can say thank you very much for your thought process.
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  Speaker 2: I'm moving back to biological systems. Life has been co
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  Speaker 2: expressing life for billions of years, and it is by
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  Speaker 2: far and away the most spectacular relational expression of nature
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  Speaker 2: that's occurred so far. And so when we think of
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  Speaker 2: a transhuman technologic future with chips in the brain and
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  Speaker 2: artificial limbs and all of this stuff that's in right
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  Speaker 2: now through the musk world, all of that is literally
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  Speaker 2: an abstraction. The word abstraction means, you know, a disorientation
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  Speaker 2: that occurs when the context is lost. If we continue
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  Speaker 2: down this pathway that you nailed. We've been for one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years training children to sit in chairs,
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  Speaker 2: answer multiple choice tests, be programmed with education rather than
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  Speaker 2: have experiential learning. We got so far down that avenue
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  Speaker 2: that a mechanical future feels more likely than a human
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  Speaker 2: future because humans are actually really bad at doing machine
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  Speaker 2: like behavior. We're not consistent, we're not you know, we
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  Speaker 2: don't thrive in that space. Our health declines, our prodictivity declines.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime you put somebody in a cubicle, there they're on
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  Speaker 2: a downward spiral. And so all these companies that were
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  Speaker 2: told you need to put a bunch of people in
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  Speaker 2: cubicles and therefore make more in ten years than you
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  Speaker 2: do now put themselves out of business by turning humans
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  Speaker 2: into machines, and we're just bad at it. And so
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  Speaker 2: the rise of this AI generation is a natural expression
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  Speaker 2: of a humanity that's lost the context of life. We've
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  Speaker 2: lost the context of nature. Therefore we're expressing AI as
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  Speaker 2: a terminal state of abstraction.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that life is the most spectacular expression of
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  Speaker 1: the universe as far as our experience.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If this thing that we're creating is in another kind
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  Speaker 1: of life. And I think it might be a kind
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  Speaker 1: of life that we help give birth to, and then
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: that thing figures out how to make better versions of
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: itself and become something new, like I've always equated us to,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: like we're electronic caterpillar that's making a cocoon. We don't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: know why, but that's just what it does. You know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Caterpillars aren't talking to their caterpillar friends and getting schematics
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on how to build a cocoon and what's the proper technique.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: They just know how to do it right.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: And I think what we do with our thirst for
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: constant innovation, we want new electronics, we want and best
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: stuff all the time, and we have materialism where we're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: obsessed with collecting stuff, which makes you buy new stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And the newest stuff, if you want status, is the
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  Speaker 1: best stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And what does that do well?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It funnels in innovation, fuels innovation because it gives them
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of resources to continue to make better stuff.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: And the ultimate best stuff is an artificial life. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it just might be a part of the
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  Speaker 1: process of being a person. It might be what the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: universe has people do. And I think we might be
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a little silly and thinking that the only kind of
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: life that exists is biological. It just might be the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: only kind of life that exists up into a certain
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: point when the intelligent creatures give birth to the next
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: version of life. But it doesn't discount the experience of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: being a human, and it would it means to be
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a human and what's important about being a human and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: why it's terrible to be trapped up in a cubicle
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  Speaker 1: all the time. But if Elon's right about AI creating
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: enough resources that we have universal high income, like, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's correct.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds crazy, But.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: If that's right, well, that frees up people to just
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: be people again. So it's like this new life form
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that we're giving birth to can handle all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: can handle shipping, move everything around, everything doesn't We don't
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  Speaker 2: I think the limitation of that argument is the definition
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  Speaker 2: of a factory job. There. If if what was really
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: making people creative and productive, as that story suggests, was
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: just half a million dollars a year from the to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: each individual, then we would see a really incredibly genius, productive,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: creative portion of humanity that are multi generational wealth. Have
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you had somebody sit here who was born into great
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: wealth who showed that they had way more productivity and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: way more creativity than people that were born in poverty.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Now generally it's people that were born in poverty that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: have more motivation.
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  Speaker 2: Boom.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So this promise that we're going to create an AI
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: revolution that's going to give a what was his work?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: What was the term that Elon used? It was a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: universal high universal high income.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a death sentenced to human creativity to.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Me, Well, it certainly could if people are not taught
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: at a young age how to be motivated by their
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: interests rather than be motivated by money. So you're making
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the argument for being motivated by money, which is what
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are currently, right, but that doesn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean that that's the only way a human can exist.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a bunch of different tribes all over
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the world that have a bunch of different customs. They
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: all agree to their customs, and those customs are totally
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: different than these customs. We've gotten into the custom of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: thinking that you work for money, and that's what our
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: ideas are based on. And so the idea that money
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: could come along and if you just gave people this money,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it would be the death of human creativity. Well, that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: sounds counterintuitive to what you were saying earlier, because like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: people should be. It's the factory mentality that's taught in schools.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's the way they structure it. Because
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: if you instead say to a child when they're learning
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: things at a young age, you don't have to worry
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: about money. Money is not what's important. What's important is
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: your expression as a human being. Let's figure out what
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you're interested in. Maybe you're really interested in playing the piano,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but you're really interested in painting, and you're really interested
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in sports, and you're really interested find out what you're
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: actually interested in. We're going to teach you how to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: be better at it and how to be a better person,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and we're going to give you a bunch of really
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: interesting facts about life and teach you how to think.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what school should be instead of setting people
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: up for factory chops. So the universal high income concept,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: if that's used in conjunction with intelligent education, education that's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: based on this new paradigm that we find ourselves in
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that seems like it would be a really good thing.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It'll be a disaster for as long as money is
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: disconnected from life, and so giving somebody a monetary system
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that does not participate in the formation, creation and co
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: creation of life will just further distance us from nature.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And so this is where we can start to think
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: about like what is money actually right? And we can
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: go down that avenue.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So you think, like, just what about people that live
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in like hunter gatherer societies? Do you think that they
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: find purpose in hunting and gathering?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: They're functioning as the birthright of humanity right there? So
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I've spent a lot time with tribes all over the world,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: from Africa to South America, deep, Amazon Jungle, everything else.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And anytime you're with a culture that is still indigenous,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: meaning all of us are obviously indigenous the planet. We're
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: all made of her. These are her minerals. This is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Mother Earth incarnate in my body. So I'm as indigenous
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: as anybody else. But my culture is horribly degraded in
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: its relationship to nature. And so when we say there's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: an indigenous culture these tribes you're speaking to, we're saying
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is this is humans that have not lost their context.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: These are humans that have not become abstract in their
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: value systems or reward systems, and so what they're functioning as.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: There has great evidence is that humans were actually designed
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to be a keystone species of keystone species. A keystone
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: species is characterized by its capacity to participate in life.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Wherever a keystone species sets its foot, there's more biodiversity,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: more life force, more ecstatic expression of beauty, more intelligence
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in the natural system. Amazon Jungle is the best example
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: of it right now. A man made forest. We have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: a forest that was designed by hundreds of nations that
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: lived for forty thousand years in an ecosystem and planted
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to the largest food forests that the world has ever seen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: It is a managed forest, and as the management started
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to grade, as those peoples were displaced or lost, the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: ecosystem is returning back towards a deserrification cycle, which is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: an inevitable process. There. So humans in right relationship to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: nature are keystone species. You can see this with wolves
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and being introduced to a yellowstone. You can see it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: with beavers down in South America. You put white lions
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: back in northern South Africa. You can see it from space.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: In the territories where keystone species are there, it goes green.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: The microbiome of the soils increase, the vitality of every
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: plant increases. And so when you're talking about these tribes,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you're talking about a human species that's in right relationship.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And to the moment money comes in as a metric
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and a value system that's not connected to life, you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: frack for that system. And I think money is not
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the cause. I think money is actually a symptom of
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a humanity that's lost it's it's context of nature and
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is now way down the pathway of abstract systems, value systems.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the case with these people that they're
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in these indigenous tribes, that what are they doing? They're
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: trading with people and they're getting money, Like how are
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: they getting money? Are they selling things?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: They don't need money?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But how does when you were saying that money gets
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: introduced and ruins.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It, it's a symptom downstream. So a good example of.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But what I was getting to do. Were you saying
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that it gets in the way of these the tribes?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Have you seen it like effect immediately immediately? So what
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: was the That was the question, like what was the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: what was going on? Were they selling their stuff? Were
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: they trading with these people and getting money? How are
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they getting money?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So my new book that's just coming out is it
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: goes into great detail on like the process of abstraction,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: like how it starts to chip away. But in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: book it talks about my experience with the Ashwa tribe,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: which is the very last indigenous culture to be used
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: to what we'd call industrialized cultures. So first contact was
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. Wow, so one generation and that's crazy.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: First kind of thing. They're in the sacred headwires of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the Amazon just on the border between Ecuador and Peru,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: deep in the jungle there, and they were the very
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: first indigenous peoples to reach out to make contact, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: they made contact in nineteen ninety six with Westerners because
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: they as a people's they had they live in villages
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that always plateau at one hundred and twenty. As soon
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: as the hit one hundred and twenty, people the young
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: men are sent out and they start new villages, so
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: they never live in groups more than one hundred and twenty.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: That has persisted as a very effective way of resilience
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and human experience for forty thousand years there. And so
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: they started reaching out through dreams and dreamed a group
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: of Westerners into their reality, guided them down the Amazon
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: everything else through their dream work and made first contact
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six because for a few years they had
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: started to dream the end of the world and realized
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that the world was going to be destroyed by their
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: little brothers who had lost relationship to nature. And so
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: they realized they had to be part of the reconnection
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: process and if there was going to be a prevention
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of the Great extinction, they were going to have to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: help their little brothers redream their relationship to nature, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: so they started inserting themselves into the dreams of groups
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: around the world. And the first ones to come in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: We're traveling with Bill and lind Twist, and Lynn Twist
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was the one was dreaming their faces and hearing their voices.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: She was one of the directors of the Hunger Project
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: globally and was working worldwide to try to stop hunger,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and these indigenous faces kept appearing in her dreams. Wow.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And the a friend of hers reached out and said,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I think you need to come to the Amazon with me,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't. Is there people hunger there?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And thing, no, there's no hunger here. You've been eating
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: out of the force for forty thousand years. She's like, well,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't belong there. I'm dealing with Ghana and Africa
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and India all the place where people are starving. A
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: few more invitations come and she finally finds herself on
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a riverboat deep into the Amazon. They have to take
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a break for bathroom break. They step out on the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: banks and the three faces she's been dreaming come walking
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: out of the woods and say, we've been waiting for you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Time for contact.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: So that was twenty nineteen ninety six. So we're thirty
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: years out. And the way in which money inserted itself
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: first as an abstract concept was boxed apple juices in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the missionary schools that were set up there, and boxed
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: apple juice suddenly disrupted the entire forty thousand year history
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: of provision and abundance that that forest has supplied those peoples.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And this high fruitose corn syrup in a box with
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: natural flavorings i e. Potent chemicals to disrupt neurochemistry was
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: all those children and ultimately their parents needed to taste
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to suddenly break their relationship to nature. Today, they are
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: considered themselves impoverish. They are working to try to get
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: gas for their outdoor motors that they never used. They
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: are trying to get more artificial food in and everything else.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And so they've got smartphones in jungle. Now they're sending
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: their kids out of the jungles to go to schools
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: British education systems in the nearby cities. And so it
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: just took thirty years to abstract a culture. And this
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was a culture that had never known poverty, had never
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: known shortage, so much so that one of the most
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: beautiful things that I experienced with them is their houses.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: They build these epic houses in the jungle. They're huge,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: thirty foot vaulted ceilings, really gorgeous, like outdoor indoor living,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: like the best of California. And they've been building these
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: things for forty thousand years, and they burn them down
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: every ten years and build a new one. They have
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: this understanding of the life death cycle of the energy
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: of a house, and they don't want the household to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: be stuck in the same energy it's had the last
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: ten year. So they see it as this rebirth you
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: mentioned earlier the cocoon. They go through these rebirth processes
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: for the whole household, the whole home.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And they move.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: And they've been doing it that way for thousands.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Of years, tens of thousands of years.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And so the beautiful thing about these houses is there's
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: not a obviously not a refrigerator, there's not a storage
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: bin for food. They wake up in the morning for
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: forty thousand years, walk outside and collect what the jungle
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: has for them today. But it wasn't a passive process.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It was an active, keystone species process. Every family has
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: three different gardens that it maintains at different micro ecosystems
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: within the forest, so that each year, depending on dry season,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: wet season, whatever is happening that year, one of their
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: gardens is thriving. And so they have as a people's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: created micro ecosystems within the Amazon rainforest for tens of
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: thousands of years. The point that now holds the most
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: biodiversity per meter of any other ecosystem in the world.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Really wow, and so we are this magnificent creature. But
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: if you break our relationship for a moment to our
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: natural system, then the immediate thing that shows up before
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: money shows up, poverty shows up. And my book goes
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: into some details like what are the different geometries of
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: wealth and poverty. They actually hold their own security as
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: their own kind of sovereign geometries within human behavior, in
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: human minds. And what you see with poverty is it
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: is this instant reinforcement of a deep, deep human wound
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that must be our one shared original wound, which is
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: we were abandoned by nature. And the moment you believe
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: any aspect of that or have anything suggests that nature
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it was holding back from us. Nature wasn't giving us
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you taste that boxed apple juice that high fruits corn syrup,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and the brain is me like, ah, I knew there
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: was something better than nature. I knew there was something better,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: because the neurochemistry lights up. That boxed apple juice is
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: just like okaine on the frontal lobe, and it's a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: bizarre thing. That high fruitures corn syrup is bizarre thing,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and it's just so perfectly exemplary of everything else we're
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: doing as humans because hyfruitous corn syrup is the exact
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: same molecule as fruit dose, which is the main sugar
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: and not just apples, most of the fruit that the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: ashwar have been eating for all these tens of thousands
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: of years. But it's flipped. It is the mirror image
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: of the actual molecule of fruit dose, and that does
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: not occur in nature. And so they chemically flipped the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: molecule with chemical processing, and the moment you flip that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: molecule over, the liver cannot understand it as a carbohydrate.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It now has to process it as an inflammatory triglyceride.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: So instead of turning it into a sugar, it turns
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it into this aberration of a fat and in the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: bloodstream that now causes cardivaster disease, downstream inflammation of the brain,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: major depression, anxie disors. All kinds of things start emerging
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: because you just flipped reality in a mirror.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: How did they flip it? What did they do?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: It's chemical treatment, and so the chemical process is called overcemic,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: and so you're a racemic is the chemical name for
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the mirror image of a molecule, and so you can
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: basically create chemical reactions that will create the mirror image
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of the molecule. And so you hybrid's corn syrup is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a processed food where you're taking normal fruitos and flipping
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the molecule through a or semic chemical process.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And why did they first start doing that?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Because you can patent a molecule it doesn't exist in nature.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And so they created a quote unquote artificial sweetener, which
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is actually, you know, a profound way in which you
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: can start to understand how we did everything in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical industry. We find plant compounds and we flip them
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: around so that they're non natural, not native to the body,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and now we can patent them and we can commercialize them.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not damning somebody else, this is
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: me I was at the height of my career seventeen
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: years in academia. I was creating chemotherapy, and so I was,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you know, getting paid as a medical doctor to sit
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: in labs every day with cancer cells and try to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: poison them. And what I found in the end as
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: a family molecules that didn't require any poisoning of the cell.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: They actually nourish the cell. And that's where my career
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: pivoted heart was the sudden realization of like, why are
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: we trying to poison these cancer cells? And I think
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: this is where we can begin to like back up together.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: But I want to go back to a really important
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: point that you held earlier, because I don't want to
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: when I say everything is perfect, because it is, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: don't want to diminish the amount of suffering we're in.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: The amount of suffering. The sociopath is in who's gonna.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Be so.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Extremely divorced from its natural system that will think it
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: reasonable to kill and behead somebody else. That sociopath we
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: can look at as the great problem with humans. Humans
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: would be just fine if we didn't have sociopaths. That
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: was how I was trained as a biologist and a
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: medical doctor, I was trained to believe that if there
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: just wasn't cancer cells, we'd all be healthy, we'd all
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: live long if there just wasn't cancer. And what I
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: discovered over time would anybody who spends seventeen years looking
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: through microscopes down in the beauty and miraculous nature of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: biology is going to find this.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But in the end you find.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Out that a cancer cell is actually no invader at all.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It's actually the loneliest cell in a human body. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: so a human cell that loses connection and communication with
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: its surrounding environment immediately takes on the traits of a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: cancer cell. The longer it's isolated, the more malignant it becomes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: The word malignant means life threatening, and I would offer
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: you that the sociopath is exactly the same story. It's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: just one human cell that became so isolated that it
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: became malignant in its behavior to life around it. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the moment my world switched is when I started feeding
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: those isolated, lonely cancer cells instead of trying to kill it,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: instead of trying to poison it, instead of trying to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: isolate it from the system. And then what happened was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: beautiful is they actually reconnected or or they self eliminated.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: And so if they had enough metabolic capacity left at
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: that moment, they could repair, regenerate, and reconnect to the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: greater system and they would never threaten life.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: If they were too.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Damaged and could not create enough energy for life at
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that moment, they would go through this gentle process called apoptosis,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: which is a dissolving of the cell, and a stem
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: cell would be called in put down a brand new
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: healthy cell in its place. And so when we stop
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: looking at cancers or sociopaths as the one problem with
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a otherwise healthy human system, we're going to realize we
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: don't have a healthy human system. All of these things,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the sociopath and the cancer are long drived symptoms of
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a declining metabolic life force. And that's where I think
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I can help you. Back up.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So in a utopian world, no one has ever raised
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: in a way that would create a psychopath. In a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: utopian world, children are raised would love and understanding always,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and then you never get the sociopaths and the psychopaths.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So in a utopian world, in a perfect world, that's true.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: But humans are one of the really cool things about
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: us is we're not perfect. We're very messy, you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So you're never gonna have great parenting across the board.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: If you have human freedom, you're never gonna have people
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that don't lie, You're never gonna have people that don't steal.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: You're always gonna have violence as long as you have
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: human freedom, because people are not going to be good
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: at raising people, and some people are gonna get raised
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: angry and they're gonna you know, it's unless we change
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: what a person is, unless we all just do mushrooms
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: together and kumbayad all together, we're still people. And the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: problem with people is there's never been a single time
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in human history where we've been a people with no war,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not one, not one.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So you'd have to when King Solomon, King Solomon.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: During King Solomon's reign, the whole world went in a
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: peace the year resist one generation. This would have been,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you know, years after David, So you're it must be
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: about twenty four years ago or something like that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So how would we even know that there weren't wars
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in Morocco at the time that they didn't hear about,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: or that there weren't wars in Australia or there weren't wars.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: How do we know? How do we know that there
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: weren't wars so long ago?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But King Solomon kept one of the best stories of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: humankind alive during that time.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he did. But what year was this?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'd be inaccurate I said it precisely, but I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: King David would have been about twenty four hundred years ago,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: so somewhere in that range.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: What is the odds that he knows what's going on
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in China zero twenty four hundred years ago?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: This is no five G.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You're not going on Twitter and finding out what's happening
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in China. There's no way he could know if there's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: war somewhere else.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: There was a technology beyond all of that sitting on
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the planet at that time. What was that pyramids hold on?
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So you think that they use the pyramids to find
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: out if there's war in China?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I think that we were. We had a technology called
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a human body at the time that was fully used,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and we were fully telepathic. You know, maybe not this reason,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: but certainly further back ten thy twelve thousand years ago,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we were communicating much differently.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think people have an innate telepathic ability that's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: kind of muted a little bit by language and by
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: talking and media. And then if we went back to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the earliest stages of intelligence, we kind of read each
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: other's minds, and then we realized that's kind of messy.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be better if we just talked, just I'll
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to tell you what I think. I don't want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: let you in and then yeah, and then we wrote
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: things down, so when you write things down, you could
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: read other people's thoughts. But before words, I bet we
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: didn't think in those terms. I bet we thought in
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: terms of what is that. There's a tree, there's a person,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: there's a deer, this is how we have to do this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: There's probably without words, there's probably an understanding of like
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: what we're saying and feeling.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: That's probably what we lot.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's probably why you get weird feelings from certain people.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You're like, I don't know about this guy. You know
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you're feeling something. There's something there, you just don't know
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: how to measure it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think you are spot on. You could have written
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my book for me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: There's a whole chapter and it's definitely not true.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: There's a whole chapter in there that gives an eighty
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: thousand year look at human communication from this point of
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: wide open frequency bandwidth of telepathic communication down to text messages.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And so there's a linear decline that happens through these
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: different steps to the more and more abstract ways of communicating.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And when we stopped feeling each other and we started,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: like you say, you begin with tonal language before there's words.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: You can start to create tones that are representedive, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you're still giving a full sense. This is like me
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: singing an opera to you instead of like giving you
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a speech. And so tonal language was giving us a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: full body experience where you're listening beyond your auditorius. The
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: spoken word was where we suddenly went straight to the mind.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: We were no longer using the technology of the human body,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and I was just going to speak. And this improved
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: efficiency very quickly. So this was the beginning of machine
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: like behavior where we could stop feeling the body and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: we could start mentally processing information. The brain jumped in
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: size and we start going through all of this iterations
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of efficiency and optimization. Maybe is the way in which
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we create empire. We create more control, more wealth. Whatever
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: we were doing at the time, but there was these
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: advantages that looked good as we went from tonal to
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: spoken word, from spoken word to written word, from written
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: word to digital representations of words, down to emojis.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie thinks emojis are the next hieroglyphs.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I think he's right.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's got something there, right, if they get
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: real good, I mean, it's kind of hieroglyphs, it's kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of similar.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: It's kind of similar. I would say that, but it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the end of abstraction. So hieroglyphs actually carry the information
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in the form, and so the form of those shapes.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Now we've you know, some of the greatest minds on
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the earth are starting to recognize that if you draw
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: one of those shapes and show it to a human mind,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it creates an incredible medical response. You can reverse inflammation,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things by looking at the shape, because
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the shape is creating when.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: We're looking at the shape of certain hieroglyphs.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the shapes that are in Egyptian hieroglyphs are now
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: being used to really change human biology. We're realizing it
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: was it was not a symbolic representation something, It was
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a full transmission of information.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Is there papers written on this.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So Ibrahim is one of the greatest minds out there.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: He's out of Egypt, Chiro Egypt, and he's in his
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: eighties now, and I'm going to connect you with him
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: because you'd love to have him on this show. But
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: he has been hired by large groups and now Switzerland
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: has hired them now to recode their five G network
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: with these shapes to improve biology and life around the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: five G network, which I think is the future of technologies.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Technology is not bad. Technology is not integrated into natural systems.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And so Ebraham showing us this pathway to understanding how
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: these original shapes that are represented within a lot of
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the hieroglyphs and things like that in Egypt, but also
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: really embedded in the actual technology of the pyramids. It
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: was a it was a method of communication that was
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: beyond the human mind. Beyond it was a life force transmission.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So is doing something to you while you are understanding
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the context of what the hieroglyphics is trying to communicate,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it's actually having a physiological experience. And anybody will have
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: this physiological experience even if you don't understand the context.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: There's no understanding involved.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you just go there stare at these things
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and you it reduces inflammation.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is there anything on that online?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Can we find something you laughing at.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: But go deep? Son put on?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I tried and it said there's no link, but I'm looking.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Do you know of a good resource we could find
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a link to something like this. I'd like to know
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: how they measured the inflammation. I'm not opposed to believing
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that its possible.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Career.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is his quote. It says when two
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: energy fields are in resonance and exchange information, something happens
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: after the resonance is over the two systems to not
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: go back to their original state. A sort of vibrational
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: impregnation of core occurs, which means that part of the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: new information leaves an imprint on the energy system. Systems
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: then are in constant evolution through resonance or interaction. Well,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that certainly seems to be what people are perfect. It's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a perfect that that whole system is. That description is
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a perfect description of human beings. I completely, which is
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: why it's so important to be around positive people and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: happy people. It's like really good for you. Being around
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: shitheads is terrible for you, yeah, you know, and terrible
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: for them too because they're not attracting any nice people
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: because and then they're going to continue that behavior. They're stuck,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: you know. But that's fascinating.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Are you Are you contributing your brain to medical science?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Am I contributing it? Well, I think it'd be very
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: interesting to study you. I would be.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So there's a word that really captures the living force
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: out of that quote from Abraham, and it's a word
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: called biosis. And so the word biosis means and refers
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to the interconnected relationships that make life possible. Your mind
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: is one of the funnest things to watch, and that's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: why everybody watches because you come in with a curiosity,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: which I think is the real key to being human.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Because you looked at that and you immediately said, that's
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: what being human is. Two energy fields that can impregnate
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: each other. Yeah, this podcast has been a sixteen year
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: impregnation inspired by your curiosity.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, it's impregnated in me as well. It's not like
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it's come.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: To one point.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: That's my point is you have made yourself available to
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: over and over again be impregnated. You are making your
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: whole body system available to new information, and a lot
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: of people that are in here aren't like measured as
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the smartest people on the planet, and they're not measured
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: as the nicest people on the planet. You keep attracting
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to yourself the ones that are going to challenge your
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: biology to stretch more, to grow more. You want to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: grow so much that you created this whole system for yourself.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by that soul. I'm intrigued by somebody that
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: would magnetize one hundred million people to themselves, not so
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: that you can impress other people, but so you can
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: receive that much information that Ibrahem is talking about.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not intentional. It was never on Like the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: podcast was just for fun when we first started. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: don't think we've made money on it for years. It
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: was just fun. It was just fun to do and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: in the beginning it was just talking with my friends.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: And then why would got to be separate from purpose?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was purposeful in that it was
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: recreational and it was a community thing with our friends
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that we would enjoy it because we always enjoyed doing
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like morning radio together. We said it would be fun.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Can the technology exist now we can kind of do
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: this on the internet. And then we had Graham Hancock on.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So my friend Duncan and I sat down with Graham Hancock,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: which was how many years ago was that? Is that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been twenty eleven.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I think probably like fifteen years ago, so that he
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was the first. I believe he was the first. It
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: was either him or Anthony Bourdain with a first real guest.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I think it was Graham. And all of a sudden,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: now because of this show, I can have people on
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and ask questions. And I had already read Fingerprints of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the Gods, and I was a huge Graham Hancock fan,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and all my friends that like had studied actual history
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: in college were always very offended by my ideas that
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I would repeat from that guy's up, Charlotte and shut
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the fuck up, and I'd be like, I think he's right.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I think he's got some points. So he was our
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: first real guest. And then from then I've realized that
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I could get guests because the numbers started getting more
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and more people were watching it, so I was like, oh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: so now I can just ask all these like I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: got Neil de Grasse Tyson on. I got all these
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: different people on. I was like, this guy seems interesting,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Like what does he do? Like I had knife makers
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: on and I've had beat keepers on. It's just like
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: it's just to me, it's a crazy opportunity to talk
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to fascinating people. And I would love to do that
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: even if it wasn't a job. If I knew that
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: three or four times a week, even if it wasn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a job, no one ever watched it, and I could
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: just have a conversation with an interesting person for a
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: couple hours, just sitting across the table. So how did
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you start doing this and just pick their brain and
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: find out like what is what's their motivation? Like what
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: gets them excited? Why do they like that kind of music?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Like why did you pick that up? You know what?
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: What fascinates you about that? Like do you ever lose ambition?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Do you ever like what goes on in your head?
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And I think somewhere along the line, I've realized that
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like an antenna for all these other people,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and that as long as it's pure in my mind, right,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: as long as I'm only talking to people that I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: actually interested in talking to. So there's there's no one
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: who decides who is on the show but me. There's
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: no executives that have discussions, there's no board meetings, there's nothing,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: there's nothing. It's my phone and I just I just
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: go that guy seems cool, like or what is she
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: That's nuts?
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Like is that real? Oh my god? How did she
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: figure that out?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Come on in?
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: And that's the whole way I've always done it. And
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like, as long as I just do it
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: that way, then people are getting They're getting his chance
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to experience it with me because I'm I'm just being
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: me right, And which is I personally get great satisfaction
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: out of watching people do things that they enjoy, even
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: if I have no interest in those things.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Like if I see a guy's like.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Making cabinets and he's like really into the polishing and
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the sanding, you can tell like this guy's work, he's
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: very proud of his work. He makes those seams nice
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and tight and sands it all down and I'm watching
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: him polish it and I'm watching him put.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: The stain on.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that guy made that with his hands.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: And he steps back and he's polishing it. With a microfibercloth,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: and I love that. I love when people are into things.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I love when people are fixing engines. I love when
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: someone's really into painting. I love people being into things.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm an antenna for people that are really into things.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what Ibraheim was just describing that quote.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: We are antenna and we are receiving information all the time,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: And the reason why it's so exciting to be human
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: is because our antenna it's got a broader aperture to
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: receive information than any other creature on Earth.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: So far and then ever before, as far as we know.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: On this planet at least.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Pyramids, I want to go back to
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that because I don't know if this is the smartest
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and the most advanced people have ever been. I don't
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: think it is, I really don't. I think the Pyramids
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: are the perfect example of why we should question that
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: that narrative. Uh, you know, we want to put that
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: in that place into a nice cute little box, and
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you know, all due respect to traditional archaeologists, but you
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: really can't. There's not it's not physically possible to put
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that place that supposedly was made twenty five hundred BC.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's the that's the guess. It's really
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: kind of a guess because there's.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: No call that way.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: There's no hieroglyphs at all about the construction of it.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: There's no They don't show how they made it. They
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: don't They don't know what the fuck it was, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: they don't know why it has so much erosion in
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: certain areas. They don't know why it's been built on.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: There's other structures that are built on top of older
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: structures that are even more complex. Like, makes no sense,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It just makes no sense. When
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: you're moving enormous statues that are a thousand tons, How
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: how'd you do that? How did you get that thing?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: How'd you move at four hundred miles? What the fuck
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: are you guys doing? You're doing something we can't do
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: right now. As cocky as we want to be, we
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: don't have machines to do that right now. So what
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Why would we believe that they were primitive? Why would
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: we believe that they were commensurate with the rest of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: what we think the world was four thousand, five hundred
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: years ago, Because that's crazy, It makes no sense. That alone,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: just Egypt. Alan's like, what were those people in Africa doing?
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Because whatever the fuck they were doing, it's above and
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: beyond anything anyone's doing right now. Two million, three hundred
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: thousand stones that perfectly aligned to true north, south, east
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: and west.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: How biology Biology It had to be a living system
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that would create something that intelligent. The reason why we
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: can't build them today is we keep trying to invent
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: machines to do our work. Biology is what did it?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: An Ibraheim sitting there in Cairo, Egypt right now, We'll
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: tell you the way that they built these things was
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: through waveform and the antenna and not just for receiving
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: transmission that created the energy to create the pyramids was
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: coming from bodies, not machine.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But they certainly had some machines because there's these core
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: drills that they find that they don't understand how they
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: could have ever had something that moved at those RPMs
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to make those kind of circles. It's drilling into this
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: insanely hard granite. Like there's some technology involved.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Water.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Water, Biology and water together, so biology is ultimately carbon
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and water. It is a massive energetic potential that survives
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: and concentrates between the magic of carbon and water. I
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: would love to show you a couple slides of where
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I think we are as humans, because you just uncovered
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: the most important reality is let's keep very strong anchor
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: in the fact that human biology. We can call them humans,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: we can call them Egyptians, we can call them whatever
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: we want. But there was people of our size and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: our scale that we're doing things on the planet very
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: recently five ten thousand years ago. Those aschwar have been
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: doing their thing in the jungle for forty thousand years.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So this is recent history. This isn't some like figment
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: of our imagination that King Solomon's right in that time.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: We have written history just after this time period. But
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: there was an amnesia event. There was something that happened
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: globally where we lost connection. We lost the signal around
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: five to seven thousand years ago. Globally, peoples all over
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the Earth suddenly got disconnected from their intelligence, and we
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: see this massive event of loss of life or disappearance
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: of life. So you got the Aztecs and you know
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Mine's Incas. You got all these systems that had been
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: thousands of years building incredibly complex underground labyrinths that go
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: for tens of you know, thousands of kilometers and things
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: that we can't even wrap our heads around right now
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: was being done all over the world, not just in Chiro, Egypt.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: The pyramids and off the coast of Japan are way
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: bigger than what was going on in Egypt. And so
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: we had pyramids all over the freaking planet that were
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: technologies that were concentrating energy. And I can I'm going
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to go back to my own lived experience here. So
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: we're not like philosophically getting into any space that starts
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: to sound.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I want to ground this stake.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: We're Woo woo, bro, We're on We're on woo Woo Main,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: We're on Main Street and woo Wooville. We're running red
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: lights sun Let's go.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Let's go. That's my favorite thing to do. Behind there.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I did tell you like running red lights of wool Wooville.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I want to bring you back, as you said something.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I have to understand what you were saying, and you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: said biology and water. So clearly they had tools, right,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: So clearly they're using a tool to make these cores
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: out of the granite.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: So I want to back up.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I think we just need to contextualize life because we
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: get into the risk of like starting core down on
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: that idea and that idea and that idea, and we
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: can't find our context. So if we can textualize this
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: conversation what life is, then we can get to pyramids,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: then we can get to UFOs and UAPs and everything
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: else that's going on right now that's starting to force
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: us to be like, wait, we don't have the whole story.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: And so this is my favorite thing about being live
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: right now is there's just too much evidence that the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: story that we've been taught in schools is correct. It's
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: just falling apart.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: That's exciting. But the reason why we have things rushing
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: into this space as new solutions that are just distracting
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: us from actually stepping into our full potency is we
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: still are not allowing context to come back. And so
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I would love to contextualize the conversation first and then
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: let's go down these Yeah, if you've got that first
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: slide of mind, we can start at the most fundamental
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: level of understand what life is. And this took me,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty five years of basic science laboratory work
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to finally get my mind clear and out of the
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: way to what you said, be the intenta for the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: information is what is it trying to show us? And ultimately,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: when you look across these images across this top of
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the slide, we got the Sun up top. The Sun
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: is the most potent energetic thing that physics does. It's
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: nuclear in fission and fusion and these things we call stars,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and there's roughly ten billion stars per galaxy. We got
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: somewhere around two point five trillion galaxies, so there's a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: lot of energy being pumped out in the universe by
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: the Sun. But that little innovation just to its right
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: at the top is chlorophyll, and chlorophyll begins a process
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: of concentration of light energy, and so this is where
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: we start to see more light per cubic centimeter than
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: nuclear fission and fusion can produce. They can then pass
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that information in the form of energy onto bacteria and fungi.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: The bacteria and fungi then support more green life, and
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: so we go from moss and slime molds to trees eventually,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: and so there's this constant feedback loop of concentrations of energy.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: The more energy per cubic centimeter you have, the more
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: and opportunity you have for communication. The word biosis again
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: refers to the interconnected relationships that make life possible. If
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: you've been in a long term relationship before, like longer
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: than a weekend, you've got a sense of how much
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: energy it takes to maintain a relationship. There's nothing you
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: do in life that takes more energy than maintaining a
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: family and your spouse and kids or whatever you got
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: around you. That's because communication is required for co collaboration, cocreation,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: and so energy has to be concentrated at higher and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: higher higher levels for life to do more and more
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: and more complex things. A couple billion years ago on
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the planet, we have evidence that bacteria and fungi made
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: their transition. So bacteria, single single celled organisms, suddenly gave
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: an increase in concentration through an innovation of doing fermentation.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Outside of the body.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: So bacteria ferment carbohydrates and fats. They use a non
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: oxygen related breakdown process to break carbon bonds. All of
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: that sunlight is being stored in carbon, and so one
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: carbon bond's the next storing a photon of electromagnetic energy
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: between them. That's a carbon bond. So when you hear
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of a carbohydrate that's a whole string of carbons that's
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: storing sunlight. A fatty acid another long string of carbons
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: holding sunlight. So the innovation of life was can we
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: store enough energy that it can be released in these
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: exponential levels of energy per cubic centimeter. And the more
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: that life innovated that process, the more complex life god.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: So bacteria, single celled organisms can't really collaborate, but they
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: can build an ecosystem of nutrients. Fung Gui figured out
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: that they could actually get way more fermentation if they
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: exuded the enzymes out of their body to make the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: whole nature around them the stomach, and so they outsourced
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: the fermentation process to the soil around them, and suddenly
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: there was so much more energy available. So they started
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: to build wholes networks of single celled organisms that were
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: now collaborating. We call these hyphae and pseudohyphae the myceelial
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: network of the fungal Kingdom. They can go for miles
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: and they're still single celled organisms, but they're collaborating now
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: because they have so much more energy because they're doing
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: all that fermentation outside the boy, so they're not limited
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: to what can be done inside the cell. The next
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: innovation that just blew everything out was the innovation of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the mitochondria, so that little mitochondria represented up in that
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: glowing set all right above the baby there. Mitochondria are
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: small bacteria that live inside human cells. The average human
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: cell has two hundred mitochondria. A neuron has two thousand
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: mitochondria and its neural head two thousand of those little
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: bacteria living inside of a human cell. And that's actually
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: two microbes put into one. So it's a little tiny
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: methane producing bacterium that was swallowed by an Arcaea, big bacteria,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and they started collaborating in a big innovation that was
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: respiratory energy production. So we suddenly added oxygen and hydrogen
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: to the process that used to be fermentation. So now
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: we have respiratory energy production in the form of mitochondria,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: and that was a ten x improvement in energy light
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: energy per cubic centimeter. And then we suddenly got multi
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: cellur life, and so it was protozoa into parasites, into nematodes,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: into worms, into everything we have. So life has been
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: stacking and complexity with direct relationship of how much energy
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: per cubic centimeter exists there. The energy is predicting the outcome.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: It's not some organism comes along it says, well, I'm
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: going to dominate. You know, I'm going to take over
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: because I'm smarter and more connected. Every time we've seen
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: an innovation in nature, it's because preceding that moment there
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: was an innovation and increasing the amount of biosis, amount
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: of interconnected relationships inside of single organism. Eventually you get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: to a human. A human has more life within it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: than any other niche of nature of this planet, Amazon, jungle, coral, reefs,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: any other mammal. The human colon and the body systems
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: around it contained more biodiversity, more interconnected relationships than any
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: other system on the planet. This is more biosis, more life,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: more energy per cubic centimeter. And what we get to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: start to recognize now, and as our neurobiology, the gut
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: starts to work through our levels of understanding, we're starting
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to realize there is no such thing as human intelligence.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: There's a human brain that is an antenna for all
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: of nature to speak to. And so we have the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: most complicated antenna system of any organism on Earth. And
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: just ten minutes ago you sat there saying, you know,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I think I'm actually an antenna. So this is the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: process that takes to great life. And seventy years ago
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: we started a new era of humanity called the antibiotic era,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: and it innovated with penicillin in the nineteen forties, but
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: then it became herbicides and pesticides and took us into
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: a massive journey of destroying biosis. The word anti biotic
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: as truth in advertising. To be anti biosis, to be antibiotic,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: is to be against, to disrupt, to destroy the interconnected
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: relationships that make life possible. And So if this is right,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: which I don't expect you to believe yet, but if
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: this is right, I should be able to map to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: you the exact way in which we've landed at this moment,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: which is at the crippled point of human biology, globally
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: chronic disease, epidemics, infertility, threatening the very survival of our species.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to take you through the last fifty
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: years and look at the human race just as a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: metabolic framework, and we'll see if we can make some
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: s inside of it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I like it. It is UH very fascinate that we've
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: gotten to where we are right now and that we
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: know as much as we know, and yet we still
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: are doing things like extensive use of pesticides and herbicides,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: and even when they're not necessary, like the drying of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: wheat with it, which is crazy, like you don't you're
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: not even using it for its intended purpose, using it
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: as a desicator so you could dry out the wheat
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and process it quicker. What the fuck are you doing?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: And then you're poisoning people unnecessarily because of this.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: See, this is why I love being with your Joe's because,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: like you say the things that I wish I would
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: be able to say. Last by way, that's all I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: really wanted to tell the EPA when I justify it's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: the government.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: We're crazy, Well, someone probably should have someone like me
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm not the guy, but someone should say
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: it that way, because that's really what it is, like,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: you're poisoning people. And the really nutty thing is the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: reason why they didn't do the ban on Glypha Saint
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: because it would have a devastating impact on our society,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: on our economy, because all these businesses would close and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: go under and they would lose billions and billions of dollars.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Think of that.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Think of where we are right now, where our food
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: supply relies on poison to function. If we take the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: poison out, it can't function. I don't know what to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: tell you, but there's only one way to do it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: We have to poison you. That is really wild that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: anybody would accept that. I mean, you could have all
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: your fucking lobbyists, everyone sits in front of those microphones
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: with notes, and they all have some preposterous way of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: framing it. But that's really what it is. You're saying,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the food supply relies on poison, and if we take
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: away the poison will fall apart.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: That's actually true.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Let me show you why, because it's not actually the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: food system that's about to fall apart. It's the medical system.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: And so the thing that relies on chemical food is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: not the money we're making from food system. Is the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: money we're making from the medical system.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Well, isn't it both?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: It's got to be both.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: It's got to be both because I know for a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: fact the pesticide manufacturers, so they work very hard to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: make sure that the politicians are very.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Happy and biosis, interconnected relationships that make life possible. Yeah,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: and so.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: When Bear owns Monsanto, right.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it so Bear purchased that recently and they've been
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: at this for a long long time. Bear started to
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: investigate the impact of interconnected relationships on human biology and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: fertility in the nineteen forties. We call it World War
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: two and concentration camps, but that's where the studies really
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: started getting set up, was understanding the relationship between microbiome
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the output product amino acids, specifically that support human life.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: So Bear was involved in the concentration.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: They were bought by a company called FKA Pharmaceuticals in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Germany in the nineteen thirties, and then they got spun
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: back out as Bear after the war with the collapse
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: of the Reich. But you know, and they're hardly alone
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: in this companies all over the world at the time
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: we're studying these interconnected relationships, because there was a lot
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: of progress being made in the nineteen thirties and forties,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: all the way back to the eighteen hundreds of understanding
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: that humans are an expression of a complex ecosystem. They're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: not just this isolated system. And so it was Louis Pasteur,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: who kind of won the argument of nature's against us,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: germs are attacking us, all of that, So that really
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: kind of doubled down on this belief that nature's opposed
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: to humans and we have to survive by sterilizing our environment.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: So pasteorization is rooted in his name, Louis Pastor, right right,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: And so we started pasteurizing with the idea of that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: if there's any life inside of what we're consuming, it
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: could compete with the human life. Now, I realize is.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: One of the nuttiest things that they've passed on society,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: that they've passed this idea that if you don't homogenize
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: and pasteurize your milk, that you're in danger. And I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen some of these gas
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: lighting articles, but some lady I wish I saved it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Somebody made a great TikTok about it today or Instagram reel.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Whether she was explaining relative risk versus actual risk, and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: how these articles are framed to show you like, oh
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: my god, this is so dangerous, and that people who
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: drink raw milk are like eight hundred and sixty percent
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: more likely to get sick. But it's like versus people
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: who drink homogenized milk. Well, how many people get sick
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: off milk? And then you find the actual number and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: it's like like thirteen hundred a year or something like that.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I forget what it was, thirteen thousand a year, feel
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: bad because they drank bad milk. And out of those,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: how many of those were drinking raw milk. Well, it
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: was like more likely that it was rot. So then
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: it's still only a few thousand people.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: By the time you find something that actually got harmed
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: by it, here down to six people, you know exactly, So.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Which is like one of those really nutty things that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: people do. They got instead of saying this is what's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: dangerous about raw milk, don't drink it when it's spoiled,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: don't trig it.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: So but also, that's yogurt.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: That's yogurt, and you should have yogurt because it's important
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: to have good acidophilus and all the culture is, the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: live culture is, it's proiotics. But don't drink raw milk
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: because raw milk you'll die. I've never heard of a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: fucking single person to drink raw.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Milk who died. I had a joke about it and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: what ACKed.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: A long time ago, Like you get if milk takes
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you out, Like my grandfather ate cigarettes and he lived
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: to be a thousand.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: That was the joke.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: But it was like milk took you out, you fucking pussy,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Like it's not.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: No one's dying from milk. Shut the fuck up.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, there's you know, people get food poisoning.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: It happens a lot.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And one of the things it is is it's run
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: off from industrialized farms that get into people's vegetables. It's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of vegetables, a lot of salads. People get
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: food poisoning from salads. Unfortunately.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an interesting project that was put in
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: motion around I think it was late teens when the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: US government suddenly realized, oh my gosh, terrorists could attack
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: us through salad bars. They could poison these salad bars
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: so easily, and we could just you know, thousands of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: start up those have been long deployed. That's an ancient technology.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: The sneeze guard ancient technology. It's just so ridiculous. Even
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: the ancient Egyptians use this up pretty sure. But you've
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: got that situation where they went out to see like
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: tests like what happened if you put salmonilla in these
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: things and everything else. And the conclusion of the whole
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: study two years later is it'd be impossible to make
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: salad bars any more toxic than the What is every
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: pathogen you've ever heard of is already there?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: For sure?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: As soon as a bunch of people touch stuff, and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: most people use their fingers, they're gross. What is a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: salad the most? What is the thing that people get
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: food sickness off the most?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: What's the what's the.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Highest percentage in terms of like what kind of food? Yeah,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: probably be like oysters, right, like raw oysters or something
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that's greens.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's greens to see.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: But if it is, if it is solid, it's not
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the actual greens itself, it's the toxic shit. It's it's
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: actual ship that gets on them. And then it's also
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: like whatever they're using, it's.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: The irrigation of the lettuces that are the problem and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: create artificial water systems that start to breathe these things.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: But I think you know that if we back up
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: for a second, like we're hitting on something so exciting here,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: is that if we can understand that life is a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: concentration of light energy. We can start to understand everything,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: and we can start to innovate for restoring our relationship
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: to nature. Sure we can become a keystone species again.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: And so I want to take a quick look at
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the last fifty years of antibiotic use. To your point,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: herbicides and pesticides, this thing that we're highly dependent on
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: as a economy.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: But we can't leave people hanging. So let's find out
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: what's the actual I have put it in perplexity. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: said what food causes the most food poisoning?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: And it didn't.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: The answer is just like foods that are contaminated, raw
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: undercooked poultry that makes sense, ground beef, other undercooked meats,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: common link to toxin producing E coli, leafy greens and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: other raw vegetables. So they don't have like a percentage
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: raw or undercooked shellfish, raw undercooked eggs, unpasteurized milk, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: soft cheesesta those are dangerous, serious look serious pathogens like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: hysteria and salmonella. Okay, So there's no no data that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: shows exactly what people get sick the most from.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: So your point go back to where you wanted to
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: go from.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: So you talked about their sides and pesticides. So this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: started with the Green Revolution in the nineteen sixties where
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: we started to believe that the Midwest could start to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: feed the world. We were in an eliminate hunger by
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: chemical farming, So I want to repeat that sentence. We
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: decided we're to eliminate hunger by chemical farming.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: And that was only the nineteen fifties.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Fifties is where we really took off with it, because
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. At the end of World War Two, we
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: had a massive glut of oil, and so we had
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: revved up the whole global oil and fossil fuel machine
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: to supply the global war machine. We had planes, tanks everywhere.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: The first time World War Two ends, suddenly there's an
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: enormous overload of oil, and oil companies need a new
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: revenue source. And this had begun in the nineteen five
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: ten phase with the Rockefellers. The largest oil producing families
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: in the world suddenly realized, wait a seconds, these carbon
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: molecules can be re invented into something much more valuable,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: and so we can sell a gallon of oil for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: twenty two cents back then, or we can take those
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: and start to break out chemical through chemical processing. Carbon
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: molecules that can start to affect biology, and so we
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: could start making drugs that affect these things. And so
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: the Flexner Report comes out in nineteen ten that basically
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: demonizes and you know, laughs out herbalism and you know,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: ten thousand years of traditional medicine and says that it's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: this new technology of small carbon molecules that's the future
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of it's the only advanced form of medical care. And
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: so we started into this belief that it was going
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to be chemical derivatives of fossil fuels, that we're not
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: going to just treat diseases, but they were also going
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: to grow our crops.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: And that Rockefeller that did this right.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Rockefellers funded the Flexner Report, which was doctor Flexner's big
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: report that said, you know, here's the future and here's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: you know, kind.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Of and he had massive investments in oil.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Rockefeller built the whole system. So he built standard oil
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that would then get broken up through the monopolies into
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: x OnMobile and the rest, et cetera. So you've got,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: you know, this situation where it's lived through to today.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: And so something like the chemotherapies that were around. There's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: one called vin Christine which is a classic chemotherapy used
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: for a whole host of common cancers. And van Christine
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: is a natural compound derived from life, and so it's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: biologically made by algae and things like this, and so
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: it's similar to oil where it's just a carbon substrate,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: but it's still in this living form, but it's creating
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: this strange carbon molecule called VN christine. So it's made analogy.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: It's present in analgae. Instead of saying, hey, here's a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: biologic system that we should look at, like, maybe this
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: should be in our soil systems, maybe we should be
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: growing food that had you know, this therapeutic effect. It's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: anti cancer affected. And instead they said, now let's separate
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: the algae from nature and let's create huge vats of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: this and we will chemically extract the vin christine. VN
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Christine today is sold for twenty eight thousand dollars a gram,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: and so the same thing was done with oil. We
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: can take something that's worth twenty cents and we can
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: turn it into twenty eight thousand dollars if we manipulate
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: these molecules and then make a story of this treats
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: a disease that's attacking humanity. And so that's how the antibiotic,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: anti cancer, anti diabetes, anti obese, anti everything has come about,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: is let's invent chemicals that solve a problem for that
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't even really exist. And so this is where we
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: start to slip into this massive abstraction of we get
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: so good at solving problems that shouldn't even exist or
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: maybe don't even exist. And so this was the slippery
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: slope that we set into in nineteen tens that then
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: accelerated like anything in the nineteen fifties. And so the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, you'll remember we had penicillin in late World
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: War two. So penicillin was the first direct antibiotic and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: it was a revolution. It was so exciting. So kids
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen forties and fifties were getting an injection
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: in there butt for anything, common goals, knees, red eyes, penicillin.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: So we were giving out these antibiotics thinking, well, we're
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: going to serize humans finally, and humans are one sterile
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: because Loui's pastors late eighteen hundreds telling his germs were
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: the only thing that was really killing humans. If we
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: eliminate germs, humans are going to just thrive. And so
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: the idea that we now had antibiotics anti you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: small things that aren't human, we would finally become healthy again.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Right, But if people did get infected with syphilis back then,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: antibiotics like penicillum would cure them.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: It would so it would eliminate the symptom of syphilis.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: But syphilis wasn't a disease. Syphilis was a symptom of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: a degradation of healthy biologic interconnected relationships. And that was
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: being argued back then and late eighteen hundreds, arguing with
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Pasture over decades of really well published stuff.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: You've got son, Can I stop you there? So you're
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: saying that the people got syphilis because their systems compromise,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: not because syphilis is particularly dangerous. So did some people
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: not get syphilis that we're alive back then that we're
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: in contact with it? I mean, how contagious was it?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: And is it because their bodies were unhealthy and their
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: immune systems weren't functioning correctly because they're malnourished because they
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: didn't get enough nutrients like what exactly?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So because a lot of it was.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: The aristocracy, like you would think they're the most well fed.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: They're the most separated from nature. That too, right, They're
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: the ones that aren't gardening. They're ones that aren't out
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: in the back. They're the ones that are separated from
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: nature and have technology called convenience pushed around them on many,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: many layers. So they're one's not touching the soil. They're
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: the ones not making the bricks. They're the ones not
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: building the houses.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: They were also drinking a lot and partying.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Because they weren't feeling anything, so they went after chemicals
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: to feel something. And this is where I think this whole.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: You know, give everybody half a million dollars and they'll
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: be happy. No, it's going to isolate them further. They're
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: going to numb them down. And all that's going to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: create is drug addiction on the highest levels we have
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: ever seen it, if.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: They function the way people function today. But that was
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: my point is if we educate children to not be
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: in pursuit of money, but instead think of money something
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: that provides you with food and shelter and basic needs,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about any of that
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: stuff anymore. Now, what you need to do is worry
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: about being a person, worry about finding something that's fascinating
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: and get an education just for your own sake of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: fueling your curiosity. You know, learn things, grow pick projects,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: do things you want to do. Start taking learning a
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: musical instrument. Do something that's that you find fascinating because
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have to spend your time just working anymore,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and that possible.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: You just said a word that I want to go
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: back to you. That's so important. You said, here's enough
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: money to provide you food, shelter and anything else you need. Yeah,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: does money really provide food shelter or does nature provide it?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you use nature to make a house, like cement
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist in a vacuum.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: The Achuar tribe have been building their houses for forty
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: thousand years. Right, no money, They've literally not had money.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Right, but they live in the jungle. Right, if you
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: live in Arizona, you better have a fucking house. You
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: better have air conditioning too.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Have you been Have you visited the Aboriginal Brothers down
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: in Australia. Every bit is hot and brutal as no
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: houses for forty thousand years. They're absolutely fine without money.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: That's not ideal.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: It's not ideal to be outside when it's one hundred
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and ten degrees and you're just suffering. I'm sure if
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: those people had air conditioning, they'd go ooh, this is
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: way better.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: They got air conditioning, and then when it happened.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Give them air conditioning, they come out of nature.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but always, I mean, it's the only way. Like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: people are so dumb. They can't be educated to the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: fact that there's a bunch of things that you have
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: to satisfy.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: It's not intelligence, it's comfort.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Comfort.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: It's subconscious, right, But can't you.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Teach people that they should just seek comfort, because I've
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: learned that people can learn that, Like everybody is like
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: naturally inclined to seek comfort. But if you do that
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: too much, you'll just you become soft and you and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: you get bored, depressed. And that's a real problem with people.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: We need tasks. We are task oriented, goal oriented creatures.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: We like stuff, We like to do things, we like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: to do puzzles, we like to play games.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: We were investinated, So I've been building stuff since I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: was a kid.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: People love building. I had the best life.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Ever because I was born poor and so I grew
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: up in government housing in Colorado nineteen seventy three, the
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Vietnam War was just ending, and a bunch of the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Among people of Cambodia were displaced because of agent orange
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: chemical that is immediately a cousin to life estate. The
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: chemical we're in talking.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: About it, really, agent orange is a it's a coversan.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: They're the same class.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: They're both organo phosphate molecules. And so I'll get into
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: that story a little later. But nonetheless, this peoples of
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: the Among were displaced because we dumped it all over
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Cambodia North Vietnam to make bear the Hochuman trail so
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: we could from the air cr enemy and kill more people.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: We turned an entire jungle system into a complete moonscape.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Not a single living life form left after twenty five
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: years of Asian orange.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: If you go back there right now, it's still like that.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: No, it is fully recovered because biology has been allowed
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to return. We created so much disease in that place
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: that humans were displaced as soon as humans step out
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: of their the kind of extractive relationships.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Orange, it's it's not like a permanent chemical that stays
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: in the soil.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a permanent chemical that they
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: can once.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Biological, those forever chemicals.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Forever chemicals are measured without life. If you put biology
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: back in a system, it will heal itself. Period. And
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: that's my promise to humanity that everything is perfect.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: The stress that.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: We're putting on this planet right now with these herbicized,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: pesticized antibiotics, everything we're doing right now, I want to
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: keep this in the context of everything is perfect. I'm
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: going to keep drawing this home until we get there.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: But it's it's going to be an interesting journey because
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: first we have to look at how much suffering have
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: we created first to understand then why would we create suffering?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: And why would that be perfect? But we'll get there,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: but I think we need a backup to people's lived experience.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Right now. Nineteen seventy three, we have the end of
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: a World War war really with this economic drain in Vietnam.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: War was this massive drain on economic systems, disrupted all
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: kinds of things, and then suddenly it's over. And a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: little company called Monsanta that was producing agent orange needed
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: a new economy, and so they repurposed themselves into a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: chemical cleaner for industrial pipes, and they bought a patent
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: from a Japanese inventor put this patent in the late
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties for something called life. Estate bought that pat
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy four, and they were using it to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: clean industrial pipes because it has an amazing ability to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: grab minerals and pull it out of circulation. So they
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: were dumping lots of this down these clogged pipes of
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: manufacturing facilities and it would clean the pipes out beautifully.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: But the problem was as soon as the affluent got
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: out into the river, it would kill all the fish
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: and everything else, and so it was clearly not going
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: to get past any environmental protection. They we needed a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: different purpose for this stuff at lower concentrations, and so
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: they repatented in nineteen seventy six as a weed killer
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: and rolled it out as round up as you know,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: which would become the most successful weed killer in history.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: But this molecule had been already in use in this
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: organo phosphate family of molecules had always already been killing life,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: you know, throughout Cambodian Vietnam. Those people got displaced, and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I grew up with them in Bouldercolor at them in
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: government housing and those among people showed us something of biology.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: They're most poisoned peoples in the planet, and they showed
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: no metabolic collapse, they showed no decline in health. They
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: didn't have explosion of cancer or anything else they should
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: have because we know that Asian orange causes cancicu. And
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: they showed me as young as I was at the time,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: three four years old, growing up with these these among
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: people in gardens, and these Cambodian women were sitting squatting
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: in the middle of their ten foot plots that they
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: were given as part of our Section eight government housing,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: and they would sit until story stay human connected. The
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: receivers were on, antennas were open. They're telling story while
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: they're squatting barefoot in soil systems, and the biology is
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: restoring their bodies clean, cleaning their bodies. I would find
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: that out, you know, thirty five years later, studying life
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: state in human biology. But this is what I loved,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: is that I had a lived experience of peoples that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: had been radically poisoned but had stayed in touch with
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: the land, and because they were an extension of the planet,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: they didn't show disease.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Because these are the people that left, though, I mean
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: the people that were still there in Cambodia and in Laos,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: and like all the areas where they used agent orange,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: didn't they have a high concentration at cancer the people
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: that lived.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: There, Yeah, And that's largely because they got displaced to
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: concentration camp type environments where.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: They were separated from nature.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: So if you don't stay connected in nature, then toxicity
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: shows up, cancer shows up all these things. A good
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: example of this is sure Noble, but.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: The people that lived in the villages were agent orange
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: as long as they stayed close to nature, you're saying
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: that they were fine from age and orange.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: In this case, there were no villages left. We literally
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: turned it into a moonscape. So they were fully refugee
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: status divorced. They didn't have land to go back to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: for thirty years.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: But there were people that stayed that were close to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: where that Asian orange stuff was dumped that lived that
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: did get cancer.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. And the ones with the highest cancer were
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: the US military soldiers. And so the people that were
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: most separate from nature were going to show the highest
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: rates of cancer. And so you have US military that
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: are eating canned food and em ease half a world away,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: they're going to show an immediate increase. And that's why
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Asian orange couldn't be repurposed because.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: It's got such a bad rap on high anxiety or
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: in a war, you don't want to be there.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: They're isolated socially, probably doing a lot of drugs. Psychologically. Yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: so you've reached a stress level because of your separation
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: from your own personal natural connected biosis of a family
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: and a community and your garden and all these things.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: As we get further from nature, become more vulnerable, and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: then toxin has become a real crisis for biology. So
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: soulogy and isolation will have huge consequences to poisoning. A
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: connected biologic system sees poison as a stressor that will
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: make it stronger, not weaker.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: When you're communicating with these people, especially like people that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: live in these indigenous cultures, when do they experience infections?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Do they have like do they get the flu? Does
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: anything go through them that's in their own body, not
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: something that's introduced by other people, Like we know that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: that wiped out ninety percent of Native Americans is disease
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: that came from Europe.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: It's a story that's told I'm not sure that we
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: have the greatest evidence of that. That story has been
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: played a lot, you know, I think it's awesome. Do
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: you think that we just killed a lot of.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: People, Well, we certainly did that as well. We killed
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of people.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: But I think that what's not understood was the breaking
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: of their relationship to their natural system. And so they
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: may have had this Centerian diet of infectio diseases, but
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: not until we displaced them from their gardens, displaced them
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: from their land and all that. We had to break
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: their relationship to nature if they were going to get
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: you know, a battel infection that was to cause a problem.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I've just seen too many examples of connected biology systems
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: that just cannot become diseased a connected system. And again,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: let me turn to Chernobyl for a moment, because it
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: is a pretty rad example of this largest you know,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: nuclear event, nuclear disaster that's ever been created in human history.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe the japan Ones now exceeding it, but Chernobyl with
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: thirty years ago, was on the nineteen seventy six or
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: something like that. Chernobyl happens huge nuclear waste dump into
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: soil systems throughout the Siberian region there, and we have
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: the immediate movement of humans out of the region out
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: of fear of cancer. And sure enough, all the humans
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: that were in touch with that system, huge rates of
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: thyroid cancer, renal disease, all kinds of things you know occurred. Meanwhile,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: those soils are primarily inhabited by voles. A small little
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: mouse like creature lives under the ground. Looks halfway across
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: a field mouse and a mole. Those tiny little creatures
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: have been eating the most radioactive soils on the planet
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: for the last fifty thirty forty years, almost fifty years now,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: and so that fifty years of eating radioactive material, they're
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: now radioactive. So when you put a Geiger counter up
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: next to one of those voles, it's not BBB beep,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: it's just a continuous hume. And so these are most
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: radioactive creatures on Earth. Not a single case of pup deformities,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: not as no to collapse of fertility. In fact, the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: vole populations are thriving. The predator to the vole in
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Chernobyl is the wolf, and the Siberian wolf has absolutely
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: quadrupled its population. No birth defects, no cancer, no consequence
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: to eating the voles that are highly radioactive. And so
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: these are the best examples of when a system, when
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: a keystone species or otherwise is connected to its nature,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: she will never allow an injury to occur that she
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't allow I'll already have a solution for. And so
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: at the microbiome level, we now know how these wolves
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: and bowls are surviving as they upregulate Pseudomonos and Pseudomonas
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: has this amazing It's a bacteria that actually, if you
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: look through all those food poisoning the lists of like
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: what's going to kill you on the ECOILA and the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: pseudomonis Pseudomonas is one of the most feared bacteria in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: a hospital for example. It turns out pseudomos thrive on
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: radioactive material. They digest it turned it into usable and
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: safe for products and all of this. And so the
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: microbiome is there living in the bowls, constantly converting and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: updating its physiology. So it's repairing at a faster rate
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: than it's being injured. And I'll show you what this
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: looks like in a lab too in a moment. But
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: I want you to hold that thought of there's every
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: organism has a rate of repair and a rate of injury.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: And as long as the rate of repair is slightly
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: faster than the rate of injury, it never gets a disease.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: You can ramp up that injury rate, and if nature
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: stays interconnected, your rate of repair simply steps up to
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: its right capacity. And so this is that classic adage.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. A
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: biology that's practicing a relationship of biosis, the interconnected relationships
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: that make health life possible. A biotic creature will always
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: have the resources if from nature rather than from money.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: Money is never going to provide you biosis. Nature is
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: always going to provide you the biotic capacity to overcome
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: any toxicity that gets streamed up planetary Otherwise, the planet
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: has been making horrible toxins forever, the sulfuric acid pools
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: that this planet dominated, this planet service Biology came right
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: past all of that. Biology grew up in it. Biology
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: has no problem with chemistry because of its phenomenon of light,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: concentration of energy, more energy per cubic enemy than anything
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: else in the cosmos. Life is this churning machine of iteration, repair, regeneration, iteration, repair, regeneration,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: and every time it does that, it has this tendency
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: to make new iterations of itself, to become more bio diverse,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: new species, or form new imagination of nature. And pretty
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: soon you have a planet Earth that's teeming with so
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: much unbelievable life. And finally a container that can hold
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: its maximum concentration of information and light energy is created,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: and that's a human. And so we've got this container
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: that's holding billions of years of stress. The result of stress,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: when connected to nature is more life force, more intelligence,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: more beauty. And so I loved what you said earlier
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: because it's very important. There's a chapter of my book
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: that's looking at this kind of neo spiritualism of the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: utopia you mentioned, and you kind of call bs from
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: the beginning on that You're like, the humans have never
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: done utopian things. Humans are part of the stress mechanism
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: of the plan. I'm convinced of it because what we
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: do all the time as we stress the system. We
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: finally invented airplanes. The first thing we did was try
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: to jump out of them. Like we just like stress.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: We like the discomfort of pushing the envelope. And I
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: think we live on a planet in the middle of
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: a universe that loves the same thing. It loves the
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: stress of it, It loves the friction of possibility. It
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: loves death because immediately there's rebirth, and every time there's
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: a death, there's more opportunity for new creation, new imagination.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: And so when I say everything is perfect, it's literal.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: It means everything is reimagining itself all the time. And
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: if humans do go extinct in these coming decades, that's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: part of a beautiful journey of life, going iterating, iterating, iterating, iterating.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: There's a moment, though, with every hospice patient where you
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: suddenly get to see life return, and sometimes they choose
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: more life in the human body, and sometimes they're like,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gone. That's where I belong. Over there, I have
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: a next thing. I've been by so many near death
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: experiences I can't even count them anymore. But every time
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: somebody dips across the veil of the human ego and
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: the five sen three systems, here they see a universe
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: that's so interconnected and has got absolutely nothing to do
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: with a human mind and its perception and its effort
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: to explain the universe. It has nothing to do. It's
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: in a full body experience. It is that intenna going
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: wide open and being like, this is what it is
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: and I can't It's the one thing I wish I
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: could do and I've never been able to do, is
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: just help humans feel that. If you could feel what
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: it felt like when somebody hasn't even come back to
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the point where they can tell you the near death experience,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: but you're just standing there in witness to them and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: their antennagoes blowing wide open, and you can feel what
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: is in the field at that moment. There is nothing
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: that compares to plant medicine, peak experiences, breath work, cold
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: plant top plunge. Take your buy through any streussure. You
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: will not experience the amount of energetic information that comes
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: through at that moment to that human antenna that's still
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: biologically connected to Earth but is perceiving the whole story.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: That's the end of addiction. If you could feel that,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: there would be no more addiction on this planet, because
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: addiction is the necessary behavior of an organism that believes
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: itself to be abandoned by its infinite reality. Humans believed
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: ourselves to be abandoned by nature, and we put it
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: right in our definition. You can probably pull it up
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Oxford English Dictionary. Nature is everything in the firmament of
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: the earth, minerals, plants, animals, as opposed to humans or
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: anything humans have made. Not only do we write ourselves
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: out of nature, we put ourselves in opposition to nature
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: as opposed to humans or anything humans have made.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: That's the Oxford Dictionaries definition of nature.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Really, and so as you start to think about this
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: like that's that's the whole story is when we start
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: to lose the antenna, when we started dolling down the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: receptor and we started planting mental constructs. Money is where
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: things come from. No. Money has never birthed anything women
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: in birth life. Money does not. Biology is self perpetuating,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: always for more beauty, more intelligence. Anytime we create an
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: abstract system to say biology needs that, biology, living people
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: need money, living people need ivy drips of vitamin C,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: living humans need peptides injected.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: It is the biggest.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Miss in the cosmos is humans that don't realize that
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: we are the best intennas that have been made on
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: this planet so far. If we begin to use those,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: we will not do utopia. Well, we will experience opportunities
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: for stress that doesn't harm another individual. And this is
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: the characteristic of a sovereign reality where everything is up
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: leveling all of the time, and something that gives up
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: its life is not killed. It's literally giving its life
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: to the next. And so when you look at predation,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: you think you have the lion eating the antelope. If
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: you spend enough time with these indigenous groups, they can
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: tell you which antelope is going to give itself to
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: the lion, and it's not because it's weak or it's broken.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: There's a relationship they can feel between the predator and
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: the prey. It's interesting that we call them prey. Who's
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: praying in this situation. Who's about to go into an
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: ascension process? Is the antelope or the lion? Maybe both,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: but there's a relationship there. In our indigenous understanding, this
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: is where sacred hunting comes in. Sacred hunting never went
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: out to kill anything. It came to receive more. So,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: if you go out in nature with the attitude of
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I am going to receive the abundance of nature from
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: my people's for my family, for my thing, and you
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: see what nature is going to offer you. And this
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: is the hunter gathered tribes and spades here. But this
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: is the change of mindset that we've got to go
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: back to, is everything is sacred, everything is sovereign. And
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: when we sit back into that relaxed relationship, but we
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: never got kicked out of nature. Everything, our food, our shelter,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: our livelihoods are going to come from nature, not money.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: We make that subtle shift of trusting this planet again,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: then we start turning on the antenna, and then our
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: intelligence comes back on, and then our memory comes back on,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: and we don't have to sit around and be like,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder how those pyramids got built. We will be
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: connected to that information because it's all still here.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to that.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: But I want to push back on this idea that
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: people can survive plagues if they don't have immunity to it,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: because one of the best examples where that seems to
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: have wiped out an entire civilization is all these sites
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: they keep finding in the Amazon.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: When you read.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: About the Lost City of z you read about the
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: initial European explorers who made their way into the Amazon.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: They found this thriving civilization. They went back two hundred
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: years ago. Two hundred years later, there's nothing. And the
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: predominant theory is that they brought with them smallpox and
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other diseases, and they spread like wildfire
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: to a bunch of people that didn't have immunity to it,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: and they died. Who's living more in harmony with nature
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: than those people that were living in the Amazon? I mean,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: they're living in complete harmony with nature. They just didn't
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: have the immunity to deal with European diseases.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: So you're telling me a story that I cannot answer
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: because the story is abstract itself. And so how so
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: because you're painting a picture a that somebody knows that
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: there were smallpox that went across those people's.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Well, we know there were smallpox, and we know that
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: smallpox did most certainly wipe out a lot of Native
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Americans as well as a lot of European settlers. Was
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: it because they were That's certainly possible. I mean, that's certainly.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: I would just say, when when do we have evidence
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: that they started dying of smallpox? And I think that's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: after we displaced them from their tribal in after we
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: displaced their connected.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Hard that's hard to say because it seems like there's
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence that its spread through tribes and
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: even tribes that were on their own, that it there
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: was there was a real problem. But the other question
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: is there was it wasn't always bountiful like where wherever
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Native Americans were, and there was times where they had
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: like serious famine and they they didn't have food sources
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: that were nutritious and they did their best to stay alive.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: It wasn't always like, look at all the deer and
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: all the fish, and we have fruits and vegetables.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere were fine.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: No, it was there was certainly times where these nomadic
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: people ran into a bad situation. And if you introduce
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: a new disease and novel disease that they don't have
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: immunity to during that time, that could most certainly wipe
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: them out.
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  Speaker 3: Despite the fact that.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: They're living in nature, they don't have the resources that's
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: required to keep a biological system perfectly functioning and healthy.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: They're struggling, they're barely getting by. I could totally see
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: how people like that.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: You know, we like to think.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: That, you know, everybody that lived in North America before
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: the Europeans came had it nailed. They lived perfectly well, no,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: tribal hunter gatherer people that are nomadic, like sometimes you
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: run into a bad place. Sometimes you're you know, you're
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: in an area that has no game. That's just how
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: it goes. You have a bunch of mouths to feed
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and things go wrong. And if they're in that kind
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: of a situation, they catch smallpox, they're going to be compromised.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Their immunes is to be compromised. Completely makes sense. And
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: there was widespread contact with these diseases that came from
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: these Europeans who also weren't very healthy and came over
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: here on boats that had That's to be fucking terrible
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: for you. You're in a boat for three months. What
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: kind of food are you eating? And then you get
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: here and you're spreading all your junk to all these
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: other people that have no idea what that is.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: I think you're now you're on the button of it.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: So it's less about the condition of the of people
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: that were native to this land. It was more about
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: the divorce of the people that were in coming from nature.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: And so those those settlers or those you know industrial
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: you know, colonists who were coming over from Spain or otherwise,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: it was their radical divorce for thousands of years of
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: you know, innovations of clothing and horses and all these
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: different layers of technology that interrupted their food systems and
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: their relationship to nature. So they were coming in over heresick.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, and it's likely that that may
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: have been more of the imprint was less of an
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: infectious disease and more of a dissonant imbalance. And so
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: I think what we now know about the gut microbiome
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: is that it has an immediate feedback loop to stress
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: signals cortisols specifically. And so if you're a Spanish colonial
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: army that shows up with weapons that have never been
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: seen before, and you've got, you know, this marauding belief
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: that you're separate from Asian and so you need to
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: go steal as much as possible because you don't have enough.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: And so that's the downstream of the abandonment disorder of
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: humanity is scarcity mentality, which then breeds empire rise and
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: fall on colonialism and ownership models and all of this.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: And so you come over with this marauding new species.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: Let's think of it as a new species, because up
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: until this point, none of the indigenous cultures share saw
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: themselves as separate from nature all of their you know,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: forty thousand years of traditional practice, where we are integrated
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: into nature, where we are an element between the cosmos
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: and the Earth. We sit in this fine, little beautiful
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: zone between Heaven and Earth. And this is human. This
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: is the experience of being an antenna that's connected to
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: this cosmos, connected to planet Earth.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: And a great example of this is Aztec architecture that
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: literally mirrors the cosmos.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Mirrors the cosmos, as did the Egyptians, and so all
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: of them were building these pyramids in thirteen degree angles,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: just like Orion's belt, and so you've got you know,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Pleadian star clusters lasered into the stones in Peru and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: the temples that are built underground there like crazy stuff.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Because we were antenna to the universe and we were
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: intempdent to the Earth, we sat feeling them both. That's
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: the magic of being human is you can feel both.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: This is a very magical moment. And my patients that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: are dying and are letting go of these buys, they're
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: certainly cosmic and scale. They'll tell you exactly which planets
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: they go to and how they expand into the universe,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: become stars, all kinds of crazy stuff in their near
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: death experiences, but they're not on Earth at that moment.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: So I think this wonderful moment of being an antenna,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: a biological antenna, not the physics of a soul, you know,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: some identity that sits outside of biologic space time, but
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: an antenna that's now biologically connected to more energy per
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: cubic senime than it will ever feel, because the cosmos
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't do energy as well as life, and so the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Sun doesn't do as much concentrated energy as life. And
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: so this is this precious moment. And so you imagine
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: these people for tens of thousand years, designing, expressing these
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: incredible technologies, the pyramids and space travel and everything else
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: that they're doing at this time unbelievable connectivity. And then
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: along comes of species that look human, except they think
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: they don't belong to Earth. They don't think. They think
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: they got abandoned. The whole kicked out of the garden
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: thing is played itself out, and they come in with
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: this killing mentality that is different than the prey and
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: predator relationship that people's had with each other. I'm sure too.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just lions and antelopes. There was a predation
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: between humans from our beginning to we are a natural system.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: We live, we die, we rebirth, we redeath. When our
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: intennas are wide open, we understand the relationship and the
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: flow of life as it goes through its ascension process.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: But here comes a species that is fundamentally opposed to life.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: It is antibodic in its behavioral relationship to Earth. The
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: stress that would have been felt in the neurologic system
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: from peoples that had been interconnected and understanding space and
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: having anything more time, what they would have felt in
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: that time would have, I think been the infectious disease.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Just like the boxed apple juice that came along to
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: break the relationship of forty thousand years of abundance for
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: the Osawa tribe and now put them in poverty. The
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: same thing could happen energetically at the spiritual or psycho
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: spiritual or psychle awareness of that intenna could suddenly break
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: if suddenly you felt like you were actually in danger.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: And isn't that what we feel when we feel a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: sociopath in our presence? Don't we suddenly viscerally feel something
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: like this is actually dangerous. Other people can be mean,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: they can be assholes, but it's that intenna goes up.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: And so imagine a whole civilization feeling for the most
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: this foreign object coming at them and it's shooting them,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: and it's killing them and is tearing up their gardens,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: has got horses which have never been seen on this continent.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: The cortisol level goes berserk, immune system shuts down, microbiome
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: and the gut collapses, and suddenly they are experiencing diseases
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: in the West. Not because the pathogens were bad, not
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: becomes some element of nature suddenly leapt across the ocean
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: and attacked them, But because they went out of relationship
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: the antenna shut down, they lost the context of an
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: interconnected biosis relationship with heaven and Earth. I think that's
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: where we start to really see, honestly, what was happening
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: at that time. It was fear that was bringing It
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: was guilt shame of being kicked out of nature. It
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: was energetic signals that were breaking the informational stream, the
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: field of connectivity that humans were probably suspended into that time.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: But even before the Europeans arrived, the Aztecs were doing
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: horrific shit to each other, like in the consecration of
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: the Temple of is It to no Chit Lawn where
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: they killed some One of a Spanish chronicler named Diaz
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: said that they killed as many as eighty thousand people
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: over four days. They sacrificed them like these are. This
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: is not like a balanced living with nature civilization. We're
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: talking about the Aztecs. They were doing some wild shit.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: They had survived much longer than the Europeans had.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I understand that. But they had survived by enslaving people
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: and ritually sacrificing them.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: So that's your European story.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: But okay, but.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: He's a European seeing a system and projecting its belief
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: of its own broken relationship with nature and everything else.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: But do you think that they had a harmonious connection
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: with nature by sacrificing slaves.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't defend that because I wasn't there
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: at experience it. But I'll tell you a different story
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: that would make you questioning. Please, because for me to
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: tell you what the Astecs were, that's a bullshit story.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: But in my own lived experience with tribes in that
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: exact area. When I spend time with them, my antenna
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: goes wide. I start to sense this bigger reality. And
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: if you look deeper at the stories of the Aztec,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: so one of the classic things that they did did
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: human sacrifice in was their sports. And so they had
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: a game that looked a lot like some combination of
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: soccer and basketball. And so they had the little tiny
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: ball that they could strike with any part of their
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: body except their hands.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: So they couldn't throw the mines. Did that right, Yeah,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: The Miyons have this sport and they've got this tiny
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: little hoop way up on the wall of the playing field,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: which were huge. They were like, you know, as big
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: as your lacrosse fields or something like this. And so
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: they got these huge fields in the middle of these
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: pyramidic you know, structures of stone, and way up on
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: the wall of one of these would be this tiny
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: little hoop that was hardly bigger than the ball itself
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: and you had to like bump it with your shoulder
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: or kick it through that little hoop. The games would
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: last for days. It was kind of like your you know,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: some version of your British sports that go on, but anyway,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: the winner would be then taken to the front and
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: the captain of the team would be beheaded.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not a lot of incentive.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of incentive.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Score of the gas for fucking ever, that's why they
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: lasted days.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: But wanted to win.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Incentive was it they didn't want to win or was
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: the incentive not to stay alive?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the Kings weren't cutting their own heads off if
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: someone won, right, they were cutting the heads off of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: the guy who was the winner. And uh, probably reluctantly.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, we can, we can make all kinds of
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: supp sure, I.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Mean, maybe they were looking forward to being sacrificed. It's
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: very possible.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's it.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: But human instincts don't align with that. Human instincts aligned
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: with people try to avoid death whenever possible.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I totally agree that while we're still veiled between the
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: five senses that make us think that things ended.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: But if you're advocating for a world where it's okay
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: to kill eighty thousand slaves, the consecration of a temple
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: that you probably didn't build in the first place, because
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: one of the problems with the Aztec temples is they
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: don't claim they built them, they found them. They found
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: them already built, and they literally call them the place
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: where the gods were born. Like some of these incredible
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: structures were built who knows how much longer before the
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Aztecs were there they describe it. They don't say they built.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Them, Oh, they inhabited them, saying with Egypt built thousands
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: of years before the modern Egyptian showed up.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Likely, so the Egypt one is a little more complicated,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: you know, because there's so much of it and it's
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: so big. It's like, it's not that the Aztec one
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: isn't complicated, because it's certainly so is the Mayan one.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I've only been to myanm pyramids. I've been to chichen Itza.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: It was fucking incredible. It's insane. You just try to
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: wrap your head around what this society must have been like,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: what was it like at its peak? But that's also
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: the belief is that these people in how did European
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: diseases as well? That's why they just sort of dropped
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: off and vanished, just like the Amazons.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: So I think there's there's a risk of us imprinting
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: our current belief systems on a distant past that we
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: can't remember that.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Well, sure, yeah, I mean there's really they don't really
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: know what happened to the minds. That's where there's a
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: lot of guessing. But the prominent theory, predominant theory, I think,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: is disease.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: And so I don't want to leave people hanging and
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: think that I'm out to create a new humanity where
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: it's okay to kill eighty thousand people.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're saying I'm.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: Interested in a situation where the concept of killing goes away,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: the concept of death becomes reverent, The concept of death
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: no longer is seen as an endpoint. The concept of
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: death becomes an evolution, not an endpoint. This is what
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: all indigenous people who spend some time in Nepal to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: go to Tibet. Their whole culture is in reverence to death.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Well, they have those Tibetan sky funerals. Sky funerals. Those
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: are wild and people are horrified by that. But I
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: was like, as long as you knew that, like they
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: didn't have to get that HBO autopsy guy to exhume
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: your body because your your husband killed you or whatever.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: It is as long as you know that you died
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: in a normal natural way. Isn't that kind of better
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: to let the let the vultures eat you. It's kind
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: of what you're supposed to be. You're supposed to cycle
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: back into nature. We're so weird that we say, nah,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: you can't have me, and we poison ourselves so that
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: we can go visit Grandpa.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: In the funeral home when he's embalmed.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: He's embalmed with toxic chemicals that could keep his body
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: from decaying so much so that you can dig him
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: up a couple of years later and find, oh, my god,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Nana poisoned them. You know, because that's that's what happens.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: They find out.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: That starts ourself a new commentary about Yeah, well about humans,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a there's something.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: That was just one example. It could be, you know,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people. There's nurses that poison people. There's
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of crazy people out there. But the point is, like,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: we're very strange in that the most common way we
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: take care of bodies is we fill them up with
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: chemicals that make it so that the rest of nature
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: can absorb us.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: It's because we have no reverence for death, because we
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: think it's an endpoint, so we cling to these containers
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: as if this was the story. Yeah, and that's what
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: I got to see in hospice over and over again.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: It's the moment people pierce the veil and realize the
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: antenna can sense everything again. That's when they realized, this
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: body is a tiny story of me. This is a
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: tiny part of my experience, and it's precious because at
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: that moment of being human, I felt heartbreak, I felt suffering,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: I felt fear, I felt guilt, I felt shame, none
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: of which you can feel when you let go and
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: pierce that veil. On the other side is radical connectivity.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: On the other side of that veil is radical connectivity. Energetically,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: you feel everything, stars, moonscapes, everything you are. You're in
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: this singularity moment, and that's what you can feel in
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: your boy like I continue to get So you say
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: what I feel right now when I just tell you
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: about what it feels like to be in the presence
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: of somebody in that moment when their antenna goes wide
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: open and they still have a biological antenna that can
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: both transmit and receive information. The amount of information around
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: death is so vast and This is why the Tibetans
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: honor it so thoroughly. Is this is that precious one
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: moment where a human antenna gets the entire download and
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: can still transmit it. And so if we are not
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: sitting in the rooms with our elders that are dying,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: we are missing the biggest download of life and we
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: will only find it out when we're on our deathbed,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: probably dying alone. And so this is what I'm talking about,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: is I see a world not without death. I see
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: a world where death becomes the biggest moment of transformation.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: And ten percent of people that go through that have
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: to be discharged from hospice six months later because they
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: went on to live new life. Their diseases go away,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: their health recovers, their biology returns, and they have a
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: different relationship with their children. They go and start creating
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: art they've never created. These near death experiences are trippy,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: and ten percent is a huge number. As a hospital doctor,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: I was admitting eighty patients a week to die, as
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: eight patients a week that are doing what they weren't
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: supposed to do. They were supposed to die and they're
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: not doing it. In fact, they are showing so much
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: more life after they glimpsed that everything's perfect, and they
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: took a deep breath and said, I got one more
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: thing to express before I let go of this finite moment.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: And this is our precious experience that we have. And
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I think you're embodying something of this
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: for humanity to look at. You're one of those rare
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: personalities that gets on this seismic launch into the public eye.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: Wealth comes rushing to you that wasn't even expected. You
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: set out to have some fun with some friends, and
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: then this happened, and you are one of the few
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: people in the public eye right now that didn't allow
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: that to break your relationship to your nature, and you
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: stayed connected to the people that are building stuff, that
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: are making cars. And that's what I grew up doing.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: That's what keeps us real is turning wrenches getting the
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: car to go faster, building a house. I built my
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: own home. I live in the woods of Virginia and
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: built my home there. Living with my partner down in Panama.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: She's building a whole village down there. And it's amazing
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: to see what is going to happen when women start
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: doing development on this planet. It's going to be spectacular.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: But what I'm feeling is this return to being human
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: where I am receiving so much information and I need
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: no money to be happy. If we keep making money,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: the source by which we will be safe, fed, housed,
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: everything else, we will continue in our abstract relationship to nature.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: We start reforming all human systems in the context of
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: a nature that is not only abundant, it does not
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: know death. It only knows transformation, transformation, transformation, transformation, more complexity,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: more beauty, more intelligence. And so this is where we
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: can start to lose the fear of death and start
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: to move into this more reverenced state of sovereignty where
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: we understand that we are fully resourced, not by Elon
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: Musk's you know, minimum wage of half a million dollars.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: We are resourced by nature itself, by life itself. Because
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: we are cellular creatures, we had to be fully resourced
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: to occur.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: In our mother's womb.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: We needed no money to take one cell into seventy
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: trillion cells inhabited by fourteen quadrillion mitochondria that concentrates sunlight
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: ten thousand times brighter than the sun, that happened without money.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: This all sounds great, but how do you get the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: money to get a saw to cut the wood to
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: make your house?
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: Why did the money have to enter it the to
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: get that saw?
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: Did you make the saw? Yeah?
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a circular saw? They have one
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: of those nice you know, those nice ones saws alls?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Why why would we need money for that either.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: Well, someone's got to build it. So someone's going to
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: make a factory. So someone's going to make the internal
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: engine that spinds that wheel a thousand times a minute
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: There's and so all you're talking about is a concentration
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: of energy.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Right, But someone's got to put the resources in to
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: do that. They have to source the steel.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: What if it was nature that put the resources in
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: instead of the Fed? So the fed's printing fake money.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: Right, But you've got to motivate people to innovate a thing.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: People people to create.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well certain things you just like, there's a reason
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: why people do it because they know that they can
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: make some money off of it, you.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: Know, because they're currently stuck in a matrix where they
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: believe the stuff is coming from money to wall power tools.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: Right wing they make those These engineers, there's a bunch
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: of designers. They all work for money, and they all
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: like figure out how much electricity it's going to run on,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: what the engine's going to be, how fast it has
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: to be, what's the best steel for the blaid. There's
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: money involved in all that because they have to have
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: a warehouse where they have to build it. They have
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: to pay people to pay their health care, pay their dental,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: they have to take care of them.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe they have a union.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they've got union dues and fees and there's
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: a bunch of money being exchanged because people want a
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: reason to show up at work to do the work
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: to make these saws, because they're very difficult to make.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: It takes multiple people.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: There's a whole chain of different material science people that
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: have to be involved.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: That's perfect. So you just gave a perfect and opposite
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: of the last two hundred years. Yeah, and so the
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: industrial revolution, right, But that's.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: How you make a house, that's how you make this table.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Like people have to work.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: But we built houses and castles and pyramids that were
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: much greater than any house built today without the money.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they had something okay, like houses for sure
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: they had money, like which houses, Like if you go
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: back four hundred years, five hundre years ago, they definitely had.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: Money, ten thousands they were paying people.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, pyramids, it's a good question.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: We don't build all money.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 3: We really don't have a lot of money.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: So they well, we don't know how they source the resources,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: and we don't know how they got the people to
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: do the work, and we don't know what the technology
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: was involved in terms of planning, and we don't we
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: really don't know.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: Just what it was, which was something like the FED
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: It probably wasn't that, And so it's that's the thing.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: It's like abstract monetary system that has nothing to do
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: with life, that.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: Right, Pyramids, Well, yeah, we don't know, right, but we
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: would assume that it would be more sophisticated than that.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: Because the pyramid's more sophisticated than that, we would like
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: to think that it would be different. We are also
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: trapped in thinking that the system that we currently find
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: ourselves operating in is the only way human beings can operate.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: This is my belief about the Pyramids and about a
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: lot of these ancient structures. I think we assume that
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: because we are on a specific direction in terms of
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: technological innovation, that this is the only direction that human
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: beings could have ever gone. And I have a feeling
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: that that is absolutely not the case, and I think
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: the Pyramids are the best example of that. I think
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: they went in a different direction. We don't know what
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: direction that was, because I think, you know, along the
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: lines of what Graham believes and what Randall Carlson believes
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: and a lot of these other folks, that there was
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: some sort of a great cataclysm and this is the
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: source of the flood myths that exists in all ancient religions,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: and this is somewhere around eleven thousand plus years ago,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: and I think that probably wiped out a lot of
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: information on how things were made and what they did
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: and why they were doing it the way they did it.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: And I think modern archaeology just saying, you know, oh,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: they use sand and push stones like you can.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: Go fuck yourself.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: You go do that, bitch, You go figure out how
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: to carry a five hundred ton stone through the mountains
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: hundreds of miles away.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: Go fuck yourself. You can't. You're lying to me.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: You're pretending to be an expert, and you're lying to
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: me because you're not willing to say. This baffles us
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: to no end, and we have no understanding of what
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: tools were used in order to create these incredibly symmetrical statues.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: Never forget about the pyramid itself, forget about the things
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: that you were Filippo Biondi and his work out of Italy.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: The stuff that they're finding underneath the pyramids is baffling.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: The baffling, the light art systems of their baffling.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: Twenty meters in diameter, huge columns with spirals wrapped around them, Like,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: what's that?
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: Why does it go a kilometer into the earth? This
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: is crazy?
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: Is it crazy or is it actually something we're actually
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: living the truth of.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I have a feeling it was an insanely advanced
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: society that existed there, and I think there's just not
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence because the cataclysmic event of eleven
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: thousand years ago was probably so destructive that very few
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: people survived, and the people that did survive they just
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: had stories and they just they have had survival skills
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: and they had to live in whatever way was possible
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: in order to carry on the human race. But I
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: think all semblance of a technologically sophisticated society that existed
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: pre eleven thousand years ago was all but wiped out.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 3: And I think that's.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Why society re emerges around six thousand years ago. And
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's what that is. It's a re emerging.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: And it's not a coincidence that all these societies that
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: did emerge around six thousand plus years ago, all of
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: them have this flood myth. They all have these stories
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: of these cataclysms because that story was passed on generation
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: generation all the people that survived. And what we're getting
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: is the ultimate game of telephone. We're getting the ultimate
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: game of people telling a story, and then you tell story,
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: and then by the time it gets to Jamie, who
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: knows what's missing, who knows what's been added? Who knows
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: what Pharaoh has added his touch to it, or what
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: king has decided that this part can't be in there
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't jive with this particularly religious text that
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: I believe in.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: It's a real problem.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: It's a real problem when we go back and we
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: try to figure out what happened in history. But the
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: things that should confound everyone and should absolutely remind you
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: that we don't know is the Pyramids they should just
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: remind you we look at that, shut the fuck up.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: There's no way you know. You don't know what was
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: going on. We could only make guesses, and we have
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: to be very open minded when we make these guesses
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: because the sheer scale of these fantastic creations, and not
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: just them, the labyrinths that go underneath it, that the
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: one that has these enormous forty meter long metallic object
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: that's under the ground, that they don't know what the
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: fuck it is. Herodotus talked about these labyrinths like these,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: these are greater than Giza. He said, like, what were
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: these people doing and how did they do it? We
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: You have such an important couple of words in there.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: One of them is this knowing concept.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: If we continue to try to make stories out of
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: our mind to explain the world we live in the
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: cosmos and in all of its complexities, or the human
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: body and its miraculous thing, we're going to end up
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: with very disempowered versions of reality. So what should we
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: do instead feel it instead of know it? Okay, well,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: how you feel how they made the pyramids. You're already
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: doing it. I'm watching you do it because you keep
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: looking up here. Every time you're like really going after
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: the pyramids, you look way.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: Up I do that with everything what I'm trying to
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: think exactly.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But what's actually happening is once you've done that
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: four or five times, your body starts putting the information
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: in and then you start speaking from some other thing
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: that your mind, and that's when you come up with
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: this conviction and I can feel it. So when my
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: antenna is open, I can feel you state your truth
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: through your body language, through the energy you're transmitting across
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: this table, and I'm not listening to your words anymore.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. Your truth is fundamentally that pyramids exist,
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: things too come next to our own human mind, and
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: technologies exist. They're here right now. They're undeniable. You're transmitting
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: a truth that I don't have to like work on
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: the words that I can feel it and it lands.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: For so long, I was trained to look up here,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: and I spent all of this time, seventeen years in
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: academia looking up here, trying to find my information map
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, there's that piece of information, and there's
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: that piece of meason. Let me put that into a story,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: because that's what I know I had my near death
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: experience in twenty ten, and when I experienced the piece
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: and the opening that happens with a car accident in
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: twenty ten. When you have that experience, you suddenly realize
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: that what you know is a fraction of what you
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: can feel, and you have so much more information at
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: your experiential level of capacity to inform your biology. Then
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: the mind will ever be able to create. And so
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: this is where we start to live telepathically. And this
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: could all be theoretical, but I will tell you I
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: have seen thousands of patients in my clinics that are
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: living this reality already. They have already gone back to
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: telepathic communication wide open, and they are called autistic people.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: Autism is a neurologic development necessary at the end of
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: a period of time when humans went into complete abstraction.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: Money systems, when abstract, have no relationship to nature. We
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: have medical systems that are actually chronic disease management systems
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: that are bankrupting the world. Now five trillion dollars in
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: a year spent on disease management the United States alone.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: We are bankrupting the systems that got separated from nature.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: They are going to collapse. They are going to fail,
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: And suddenly we develop a neurology that cannot be programmed
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: with the old abstract systems and belief systems because they
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: are feeling too much. We call it sensor processing deficits,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: but really what it is is a mind that's no
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: longer gated with excuses, with defense mechanisms, with tolerance levels
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: of cognitive dissonance.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: Is this?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Why have you seen that there is one young boy
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then he
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: drew the entire skyline, like completely accurately, just from his memory.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's you know, a project that's become
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: known as the Telepathy Tapes is a great example of it. Yeah,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: And I was on their second season of that talking
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: through what I experienced in clinic is that we now
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: have not just a theory of telepathic communication, we have
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: the lived experience between thousands of people that are in
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: there between space between the words. They are traveling to
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: a unified location that they all agree exists, which is
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: called the Hill Hill, and so they are having a
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: experience in which massive amounts of information are being transmitted
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: back and forth and they cannot be programmed with death
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: is bad and things. You know, they can't believe any
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: of the abstract things we've been taught because they feel
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: too much. The reason I became so clear on this
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: was total accident in my clinic, which is the only
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: way new ideas come along, its complete accidents. Because when
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: we do scientific research it's way too linear. We see something,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: we're like, well, if that's happened, then this must be
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: the way it is. Well, if I just saw that,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: then this must be a way. So we do these
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: linear you know, knowledge based systems, and so we get
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: nowhere we go in circles, and well, cancer must be
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: here we are We've known cancer wasn't the problem. We
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: knew that cancer was a metabolic symptom, a symptom of
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: metabolic collapse, one hundred years ago, so well defined in
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: medical literature, everything else outo Werburger was the guy who
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: like broke the whole news in the nineteen twenties. So
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: here we are, one hundred years later, still thinking that
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: cancers coming out of the woodwork and attacking healthy human bodies.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: So we go on these linear things. What we are
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: forgetting is these leaps in awareness, These a much bigger
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: intenna system is available to us, and you only get
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: there when you finally surrender your knowledge base and you
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: start to feel what's happening in front of you. And
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: so I was taught that there was a disease called
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: autism that was affecting our children. And for years I
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: helped manage these people in clinics and everywhere they showed
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: up in the medical system, and I saw this disease
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: in my linear mind was always like, I got to
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: fix that. Maybe if I do this, I could fix
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: the human brain. Maybe if we flip this switch, it'll work.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe if we put this chemical in their body, we
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: can change their neurochemistry and get them to be able
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: to tolerate a day. My clinic that I launched in
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: twenty ten was called Revolution Health Centers, rural clinic, town
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: of five hundred and fifty people, no resources monetarily, there
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: was no reason this was going to become an explosive
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: hub of innovation if you measured it by money, I
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: was hemorrhaging money. I was not making money as a doctor.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: Adall rural doctor had left the Hallett halls and the
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: marble halls of academium, and I started seeing autistic hits
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: a lot in these rural vironments, and any inner city
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: urban environment is where we have these really high penetrants
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: of autism. It's not being diagnosed because they don't have
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: the resources to bring the attention to Like child's five
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: seven years old and by that time, there's been no
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: resources brought to the kids. So lots of undiagnosed autistic
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: neurology out there. So I was seeing a lot of
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: end clinic and these kids are heavily affected, and the
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: suffering is kind of through the roof. They are hitting
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: their head against a wall six eight hours a day.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: They have a callous on their forehead from rhythmically hitting
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: their head, striking their head against a wall. And when
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: they get upset, somebody comes in their environment stresses them.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: They start smearing feces and blood on the walls.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: It is from.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: Parenting aspect, the most horrific hell you can possibly live in,
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: the amount of suffering being expressed. And so these kids
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: with highly affected autism are coming in my clinic and
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: they can't even sit in front of you. They run
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: around in the clinic room and they can't make yicon,
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: can't make physical they're feeling too much and they'll go
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: hide in a corner, hit their head against the wall,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: stem somehow, they're stemming their body until the chaos of
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: everything they're taking in is shut down to one signal
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: of pain. So this is an intense way to see
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: a human being. And this kid's four years old sitting
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: in front of you, and this mother is more exhausted
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: than you've ever seen a human being. And so we
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: started trying to go into the woodwork of like what
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 2: resources are we not thinking of here? And by this
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: time I was starting to be exposed to Native American
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: indigenous practices and new energetic therapies Ibrahim cream stuff out
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: of Egypt, and it was like, Okay, show me something,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: give me some tool here. And we stumbled upon this
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: very simple tool which is called emotion code therapy, and
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: it's a simple way of bringing the mind into awareness
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: of where an emotion is stored inside of itself. And
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: then you run a magnet over the forehead, over the
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: top of the head to reset the magnetic pull of
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: the water around the brain and it changes the neural chemistry.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: And so it was a powerful tool. I was super
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: excited about it, but most of these kids coming in
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: so effect, it wouldn't even get close enough for me
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: to do that they're so we started doing it on
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: the moms to show the kid, hey, this is safe,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: and they'd come in and get a couple treatments. After
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: two years of this, we started to realizing all of
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: the kids were improving before we ever got that treatment installed.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: They were improving when mom got treated. That started to
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: made me realize, they're not expressing a personal experience, they're
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: expressing a field effect.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 3: Their intentas wide.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: Open, and when we removed mom's emotional stressors, the kid
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: got better. And so we started treating everybody in the field,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: and a heavily autistic child will require three to five
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: full time efforts to get. So they got a grandma,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: two aunties, an uncle, two brothers that are taken care
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: of the kid, and we started treating the whole field
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: like anybody who has touch with this kid in a week,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: we want to see them, We want to clear their
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: emotional field.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: The effect was.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: Just undeniably effective. Every time you cleared another individual whose
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: emotional field was being felt by the kid, the kid improved.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: And so what I started to realize is these kids,
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: because they are a wide open antenna that cannot damp
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: themselves down. They don't have the filters that would allow
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: them to survive in an abstract, fake environment that's artificial
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: through and through. They cannot do it, and so all
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: they can do is feel everything. And now they're feeling
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: what those native cultures must have felt when Europeans showed
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: up for the first time. Neurologic systems that are wide
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: open that suddenly see an abstract human being and the
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: suffering they are in will collapse. Its own neurology will
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: overwhelm the system, and so the same thing that our
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: artistic are showing today, I believe it is very similar
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: to what it must have felt like to be an
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: inca amy in your habitat and suddenly see the field
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: disrupted by a stress signal, an unbelievable signal that just
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: broke the whole field. So we have stories about floods,
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: but we're still thinking of the flood as a f
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: physical wave of water that came over. Is it possible
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: that the flood was actually a neurologic experience of overwhelm
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: that wiped out the entire memory bank? Did we do
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: that when a sector of humanity truly experienced and believed
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: itself to be separate from nature for a moment.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: Was original? I think it has.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: They're mutually exclusive, and I think there's a lot of
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: physical evidence that the impact the younger dries impact theory specifically.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: Is I agree there's water. I agree water goes up
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: and down. I agree that there's massive floods, But when
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: we talk about the Inca and the aspect, there was
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: no flood at that time. So what I'm really getting
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: at is is it possible there's something other than just
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: physical floods? Can there be energetic.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: So in that case, these settlers coming across, not just
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: the diseases, but just the fact that they were there.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: They can their marauders. These people are coming in on horseback,
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: they have muskets.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: They think they've been kicked out of nature for a
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: thousand years. They're terrified to that.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: They're cutting people's arms off, they don't give them their
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: weight in gold.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're breaking the field.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've read some of the depicteds.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: There was was it a a bishop or someone traveled
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: with some religious person traveled with Columbus First crew and
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: wrote these horrific depictions of what they did to the
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: native people that they found. And once they found that
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: these people had gold, that they demanded their weight in gold,
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: were cutting their arms off and dashing babies heads on rocks.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 3: They were horrific stuff.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: I forget that the guy who it was, but it
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: was some religious figure who traveled with them.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 3: Here he is.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: Bartolome de las Casas. So he's a Spanish lawyer, clergyman,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: writer and activist, best known for his work as a
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: historian and social reformer.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: So this is the guy, and.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: So he he recorded what the Spanish settlers did. He
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: described and rallied against the atrocities committed by the conquistadors
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: against the indigenous people. Arriving as one of the first
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: Spanish settlers in America, Los Cassas initially participated in the
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: colonial economy built on forced indigenous labor, but eventually it
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: felt compelled to oppose the abuses committed by European colonists
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: against the indigenous population. So he's one of the reasons
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: why we know that we probably shouldn't be celebrating Columbus Day.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 3: He probably wasn't a great guy, yea.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: And I wish it was distant history, but it's still happening. Yes,
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 2: the cartels are still doing that down and throughout this
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: whole region that we're talking about, and they're still beheading
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: people with machetes, and they're still at this. And we,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: as the United States, have killed more people than any
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: other people's in history. We have been a machine of
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: death for two hundred and fifty years like none other.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: And we've done in the name of freedom, and we've
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: done in the name of you know, our God is
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: better than your God. And so we have used these
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: altruistic shields to become the biggest death machine in the world.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: Incredible medical paper was published just recently in The Lancet
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: and it looked at the number of global deaths from
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: just US economic sanctions over the last forty years, and
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: the number was around thirty five million people dead. Thirty
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: five million people did not with a single tank, not
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: with a single plane in the air, not a single
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: drone from sanctions. And so, when we keep telling ourselves
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: that we need money for our own health, for our
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: own houses, we need healthcare insurance. Therefore we need money.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: The assurance of health will never come from a company
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: that doesn't care about you. It will always come from biology.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 2: It will always come from an earth that allowed you
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: to conceive in your mother's womb.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, we're in a very perverted system.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: If health is dependent upon these organizations whose primary focus
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: is to make the most money possible, that's crazy. And
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: then recommend to you drugs that you absolutely don't need,
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 1: and then hide studies that these drugs are damaging to you.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: It's crazy unless you think that everything comes from money,
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: and then it makes sense.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it makes sense that you know the old
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: adage money is the root of all evil. That's when
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: did that get written? Who wrote that? What quotes that from?
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: I know that quote so well, I have no idea
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: who wrote it. Do you have any idea.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: That's been that's the oldest adage in politics.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder who's credited with that. They probably stole it
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: from somebody else. Does it say the Bible?
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: There you go?
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: Ah, wow, there you go.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: So that would have been Aramaic. Timothy was speaking Aramaic.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: Aramic was a critical language that has been forgotten in
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: our Christian world of New Testament Old Testaments, but most
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: of us written or spoken in Aramaic, not Hebrew or
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: not great It's all in Aramaic, all in Aramaic.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 3: The Dead Sea scrolls are bananas.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: And if you look at the language of air make
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: then we're getting a layer two back from abstraction, where
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: there's actually shape to those that are actually transmitting information.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: There's something about looking at that written language as well
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: that's really compelling your antennas. Yeah, especially like old languages.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: There's something about like old Hindu you look at it
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: like ancient Hindu scripts, ancient Tibetans.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 3: You look at Farsi.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Farsi gives me goosebumps when I read. When you
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: look at a roomy poem written in Farsi, you realize
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: he wasn't transmitting a poem. He has so much mathematical
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: truth in a thing that's in the form he's telling
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: you geometry. He's telling you sacred geometry, the fabric of
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: the universe, in the form of a language that is
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: not symbolic. It's it's a true depiction of information.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: It really is interesting embodied. These ancient languages are so beautiful.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: Ancient Hebrews another one.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: It's beautiful.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: You look at it like this is while to look at,
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 1: you know, and then when you find out that ancient
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: Hebrew they didn't have numbers, so that the letters doubled
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: as numbers, and so there was there was actually numerical
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: value in words that were missing, like when the translations
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: got to Latin and Greek and eventually English, like we
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: lost what they were trying. There was something that they
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: were saying that if they could read it, they knew
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: there was there was more context to these words that
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: just simply you know, you're talking about a bush, you're
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: talking about a tree, you're talking about a lake. Now
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: there's there's something to it. It's really really interesting stuff
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: because it's like, why did language get less complex as
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: it got more recent? That seems strange.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: It got more symbolic. Mm It wasn't necessarily complexity. That
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: was the problem is that it separated itself from the
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: actual information. So now the word tree is a symbol
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: of something that actually has never been a noun. So
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: now we have a word that has no movement. It's
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: a noun. It does not express movement. And we now assess,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: you know, sixty percent of the surface of the earth
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: as a non living, non moving thing called a tree.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: Whereas all native cultures, when you ask them what is that,
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: they will use a verb, and so what they're saying
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: is that is treeing. That's treeing, that's treeing. Nothing is
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: so verbs. English was the first language to come around
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: and characterize everything as a noun. And that's why it
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: became the language of science. Is because science broke its
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: relationship to motion. It wanted everything to be static, therefore studiable,
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: therefore we could control its variables. And so every time
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: somebody shows you a cancer study, shows you a cardiovaster
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: disease study. I did this for years. I've got a
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: peer science everything else. I was literally having to break
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: every element of nature so that I could prove that
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: my protein COOPTF one was the most important thing for cancer.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: I had to break every relationship to nature that that
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: cancer cil cal possibly have before I get study that protein.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: And so everything that we call trust the science these
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: days is an aberration. Is a symbol of life. It
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: is not life itself. And so science itself has become
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: this noun structured belief system that has no flow in it.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: There's no verbing happening in sciences. There's a bacteria, there's
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: a mitochondriate, there's a human cell, and we think of
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: those as three different things. Now it is life lifing,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: and what it's doing is finding more and more ways
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: to stack complexity to get more and more light concentrated
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: per cubic centimeter. And everything is in one relationship. There
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: is no tree human thing. There's life doing biosis interconnected relationships.
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 3: And this is.
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: Getting very fun. Now. It's like we actually got the
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: science and how to prove that we were wrong. And
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: so we think, okay, here's human DNA double helix, Watson
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: and Crick, this is bible of the biologic kingdom. Now
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: everything comes from DNA, and human DNA is much better
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: than bacterial DNA because bacteria just have little circle loops
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: of DNA. We have this beautiful, spiraling double helix. This
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: has got to be the best in the land. Then
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: we start in nineteen ninety two, we set out to
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 2: decode the human genome, and we thought, well, well, this
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be a forty year projects.
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 2: We knew how many genes we could decode each year
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: with our gen ic sequencers, so we thought, we're gonna
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 2: have to find four hundred thousand genes because we knew
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: it by this time that we had four hundred thousand
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: different proteins in a human body. So we're like, well,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: we need to find a gene for each of those.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: Because we knew that a gene made an RNA that
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: then made a protein, we knew how it worked. Watson Creek.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: It starts us off nineteen ninety six, rolls around, and
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: the team finishes twenty five years ahead of schedule because
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: there were not four hundred thousand genes, there was twenty
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: five thousand genes. Everybody laughed said, you screwed it up.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: Three more teams finish over the next two years. The
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: first team was wrong. There was not twenty five thousand genes.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: There was nineteen thousand genes. They had miscounted because they
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: had dual counted some of them. We have less than
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: twenty thousand human genes that make a human body. The
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: reason why that's so embarrassing is because a flea has
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand genes. A fruitfly has thirteen thousand genes. So
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: you sit somewhere between a flea and a fruit fly genetically.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: In fact, you're a little closer to the fruit fly
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: than the flea. That's probably why the flea can jump
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: forty times it's height and you can't but there is
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: something sitting here right in front of us at the
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: genetic level saying to be human is not to be
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: a species.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 3: And so what is.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: All that DNA doing? There's so much DNA in a human.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: How can we have so few of that?
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: It has small of that information actually coding a gene,
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: And turns out the numbers one and a half percent,
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: one and a half percent of the DNA held inside
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: of a human cell is actually coding for a gene.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: Ninety eight point five percent. We ended up calling junk DNA.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: So it's called junk d for twenty five years until
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: somebody has started to realize that we were preserving our
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: junk DNA more carefully and passing that to our young
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: than we were the genes. And so there's something super
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: important being preserved by biology from generation generation all this
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: junk DNA. What we now have found out is the
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: mitochondria again, two hundred mitochondria, many different species variants living
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 2: inside a single human cell because they change their genetic
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: sequencing very rapidly, and so you got maybe a couple
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: hundred different versions of a mitochondria sitting in a single
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: human brain cell. Those, it turns out, are storing their
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: genetic information in the double helix of the human cell.
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: And they go in access inside the human nucleus the
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: gene that is THEIRS for their own reproductive capacity and
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 2: pull an RNA out of that common decode a protein
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: so they can reproduce every three days for your entire life.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: So the mitochondria are storing their genes in the human cells.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: This was This doesn't fit any biologic map of why,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: saying Creek, you're starting to realize there's a collective expression
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 2: of in the antenna of being human. And that's what
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: DNA ends up being is it is actually an antenna
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: system that's taking in information and then unwinding and rewinding
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: to reveal different genetic sequences to all of life within
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: a human ecosystem. So we are now convinced genetically that
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: it's impossible that a human is a species, else we'd
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: be somewhere between a flea and a fruitfly. The magic
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: of being a human is in the ninety eight point
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: five percent of our DNA that doesn't code for a
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: human gene that is likely coding for all of life.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: That's what it means to be a keystone species genetically
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: is we are the life We are the life record.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 2: It is happening through us in US, around US, life
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: is ascending through a biologic matrix that we call a
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: human body, but it is not a species as an ecosystem.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: And seventy years ago we started the antibiotic era, and
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: we started wiping out the diversity inside of a human body.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 2: And so the toxicity of herbicize and pesticide have very
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: little to do to their impact on a human cell.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: It has to do with the impact on the entire
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: ecosystem that's expressing itself through this massive genomic library that
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: is so big we can't even wrap our head around.
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: If we strung you end to end, you've got around
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: fifty to seventy trillion human cells. Each of those cells
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: has about a meter of DNA bundled inside of every
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: nucleus of every cell. If we strung you end to end,
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 2: we could wrap Joe around the circumference of the planet
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: right at the equator two million times your DNA wraps
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: around Planet Earth two million times. The amount of genetic
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: information in there is plenty to hold a record and
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: a code for all of life on Earth. It will
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: not surprise me that in the coming years, we start
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: to realize the entire code is here. We have found
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: out just recently that you could take the human genome
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: and arrange it in one hundred and seventy eight puzzle
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: pieces and spell pig perfectly. The genome is this warehouse
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: of life of Earth. It's not belonging to a human species.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: And I believe that this is where we are going
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 2: to really spend a lot of our new excitement around
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: what it means to be human as we start to
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: move into our next era. The antibiotic era is coming
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: to an end. It's crippled our biology and our fertility
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 2: point where we cannot continue it.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 3: Well, how do we move past it?
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: We become biologic again. We're going to end the chemical
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: antibiotic era and we're moving to the biological Renaissance. You
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: talked a couple of times about this moment of like
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: remembering like the Renaissance that we can all point to
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: sudden explosion in maths. Science are massive. You know, it
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense what was happening fifty years before
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: the Renaissance and then the Renaissance and what would happen
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: the next two hundred years. It was a parametric explosion
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 2: of creativity, of human capacity, human mind capacity, creativity.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: What is it coincide with a remembrance?
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 2: The antenna opened up? And so this is the moment
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 2: we're about to re enter now as we're going into
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: the next renaissance, and it's happening in people like doctor
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: Abraham Green out of each He's suddenly remembering the technology
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: of the hieroglyphs. He's remembering the technology of waveform and
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: its influence on biology. He's not in there inventing this stuff.
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: I've sat with him in cafes and I'll say, well,
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: what about this disease here? And he goes just for
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: a split second into his antenna, draws the shape on
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: the napkin, slides it across the table. He's not producing
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: this stuff, he's remembering this stuff. The antenna is opening
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: up on humankind right now, and autism is our super
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: charged version of that. The autistic neurology is so wide
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: open that we're going to have no choice but to
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: start to remember everything. A kid flies over New York
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: once can remember the entire scape. That's what our antenna
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: is capable of doing. Autistic children are not abnormally genius.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: They are minds that are unfiltered and bodies that are
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: still in the context of nature. They have not separated.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: When I sit with an indigenous elder in Africa, the
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: Koi people, the Koi have been around for three hundred
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: thousand years. They have an unbroken oral history for one
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand years, with exception of that blank point eleven
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: thousand to seven thousand years ago, and so they also
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: suffered the amnesia. But one hundred thousand years of normal
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: tradition is spectaculars twice as long as anything else on
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: the planet. Aboriginal forty thousand, Native Americans, forty thousand, Deep
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: Peru thirty thousand, one hundred thousand years of uninterrupted information.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: You sit with one of these elders, and they have
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: all of the experiential traits that the autistic community is.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 2: They can go to the hill, they can communicate telepathically
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: with the forest system. They can tell you what the
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 2: panther are saying. They can tell you what the moon
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: cycle is saying, not because they've studied it, because they're
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: literally listening to the information.
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 3: They're receiving.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 2: The information this new renaissance is beginning is a biological
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: reconnection that is going to be available to us so
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 2: much information that we're not going to sit here around
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: listening to podcasts of wondering scratching our heads about how
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: did the pyramids happen? Like, we're going to start doing
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 2: it again because there's this so other understanding of how
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 2: water and carbon work, how how much work you can
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: do instantaneously when you master the ability of the antenta
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: of a human being to organize matter. The pyramids were
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: not built, they were organized, if that makes sense. I
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: believe that when you feel what's happening inside a pyramid
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: was a This was all an energetic expression. This is
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 2: a frequency wavelength expression of something that was energetically hardy.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: Here it's an emergent reality that is made by biology
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: when it feels the whole field.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: Right, But how how do they put it together?
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: So the people that are remembering this, that are starting
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: to feel what is this? They did it through mind.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: They did it literally through transmitting information into the natural materials.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: And so they would cut with their mind with frequency
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: as a transmitter to cut the stones, to organize stones
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: to move, anti gravity and everything else. And you're bringing
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: this to everybody's attention all the time. These UAPs and
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: everything else that are rushing around here. Gravity only exists
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: in one plane of reality here, and so there's anti
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: gravity experiences that are the process of waves interrupting the
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: relationship between two bodies. That's gravity. So gravity is the
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: distance plus the mass or the mass squad plus the
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: distance between the are multiplied by the distance between the
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: two bodies there, And so you need two bodies in
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: a relationship to create the phenomenal gravity. Not surprisingly, you
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: can put a waveform between those two that interrupt that relationship.
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: And so when you start to think this way, then
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: UAPs and your pyramids all start to make sense. Like
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 2: we're so Newtonian in our current belief systems. We've forgotten
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 2: how to believe in quantum physics because we became so
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: committed to the mechanical reality that Newton offered us. Newton said,
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: this happens. Therefore this happens. Everything is action and reaction,
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 2: action reaction maybe or everything is creation. Is the right
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: relationship between action and reaction actually polarity instead of one
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: thing reacting to the other.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think is fueling this current renaissance?
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's us getting to the breaking point of
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: human neurology. We can no longer sustain the stories. We
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: took so much energy for us to all believe the
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 2: stories together. Everything you've ever talked about on this podcast
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 2: is pushing I don't even know if you know you're
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: doing this. You are pushing the human neuralgy to its
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: breaking point. With every podcast, you are challenging the human
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: mind to stretch past his capacity to keep the old
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 2: stories alive. You're breaking minds. That's why we love you
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: is I have a great affection for all people who
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: do this, and you're one of these people doing this.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: You are a breaker of false things, and you have
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: an incredible device that you use all the time, which
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: is curiosity. It just won't let you sit still. You're
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: too fucking curious. I love this about you because this
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: is why I was excited to come to your podcast,
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 2: not so I could talk about anything, so I could
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: feel you. I wanted to feel what this feels like,
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: because this has to be one of the most freaking
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: curious motherfuckers on the planet. What a gift to sit
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: in front of a curious human being. There's nothing that
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: feels better to a human neurology than sensing the other
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: the impregnation that doctor abrahamc Cream meant in there that
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: field effect of two fields that come into presence together
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: and imprint impregnate the other one. It's your curiosity that's
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: got everybody paying attention. We love it because you're not
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: here to tell us you know everything. In fact, you
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: keep the challenges that we don't know anything. You've said
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: it five times on this but we don't know. That
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: feels so good to a neurology we don't know well.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: I also think many people are curious and they also
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: want to hear from other people that are curious as well.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: Because we live in this weird world where we've been
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: deceived into thinking that people have short attention spans. It's
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: not true. Like your attention span can be hijacked by
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: short attention span media, but it doesn't mean you have
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: a short attention span. Most people that I know, if
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: there's a thing that they like, this is a thing
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: that they're interested in, they have immense attention for it.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: Whether it's a sporting event or a concert.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 3: That go to.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that you have a lot
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: of attention for. It's just it has to actually read
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: with you and people love when other people are curious,
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: because they're curious.
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 3: Most people are curious.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: All humans are curious. Yeah, all humans.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 3: There's something wrong.
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 2: You're not human.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you're just blunted. Life is throwing you some curveballs
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to duck.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: You can definitely turn a curiosity off into human, no question.
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 2: You just separate them from nature.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 3: Long enough and you drug them.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: You know, that's just a symptom of nature definite disorder.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I think
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 3: that's why.
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: One of the best remedies for people that are depressed
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: is physical exercise.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: Get them out of nature.
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get it.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: Go out in nature, go hiking and camp for seven days,
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: a thing that makes you feel alive, gets your blood pumping,
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: because that's what's supposed to happen. That's how you're supposed
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: to exist.
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: It's been shown three nights of camping outside, never go
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: inside for three days. Your immune system reverts thirty years.
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: Your T cells turned back on, all your stem cells activate.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 2: We are living a blunted human experience because we separate
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: ourselves from nature.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Werner Hers documentary Happy People.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: It's really fantastic. It's about these people that live in
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: Siberia and they're so happy. There's like no mental illness,
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: and it's it's called happy people life and the Taiga.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: So it's all these people that are off the Tiger River,
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: and these people live a subsistence lifestyle. They they're they're
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 1: hunt and they fish and that's that's all they do.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: They ride around on snowmobiles, they build cabins, they live
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 1: with their dogs.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 3: Sounds like my life. Yeah, it's quite.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 1: Fascinating because these people don't have any mental illness. They're
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: all happy. They're all they're all laughing. They get together,
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: they drink and they have parties and they eat food
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 1: together and they're laughing, and then they go about their
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 1: work and then they exist completely embedded in nature. They
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: are nature, They're a part of it.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: And I would offer they're not working at all.
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 3: They're creating. They're living.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 2: They're creating, they're living.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: Zach, this was awesome, This is really fascinating. We got
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: to do this again.
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 2: Can I show you a picture of how we got here?
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 3: Show me a picture how we got here?
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: All right, let's just I want to go through that
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 2: next slide because it's going to orient us, so like,
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 2: what's actually happening to humankind right now?
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 2: And so we have established clearly that nature's the context
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 2: of a connected, interconnected life. And so can you go
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 2: back one slig Oh, yeah, that one will work. Yeah,
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: So I go ahead and that one. And so this
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 2: is looking at the effect of glyph assate on ATP,
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: which is energy production per cubic centimeter. And so this
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: is looking at that. And this is a vehicle meaning control.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 2: And so you're producing about sixteen hundred pika moles per
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: milligram of ATP. These are the mitochondria turning carbon chains
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: of carbohydrates and fatty acids back into light energy. And
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: so you've got this massive energy potential. And then within
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes of introduction to just one part per million
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 2: of glyphs sate, which is a common amount that you
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: would see in a lot of your chemical farmed food systems,
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: we've seen this all the way down to ten parts
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 2: per billion, which is you know, the times smaller quantity here.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: And so at these levels, though, you see a sudden
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: collapse of the ATP production. And so now imagine in
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six we start eating food with residues of
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 2: this chemical, and suddenly we shut down light per cubic
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 2: centimeter for the first time in human history, more effectively
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: than ever probably, And so I'm going to show you,
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 2: on a population scale of billions of people, what happens
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 2: when you start to undermine the light percubic centimeter. And
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 2: so you started OBEs in nineteen eighties, four years after
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 2: introduction of this chemical to our food system. From there,
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: you end up seeing the collapse of the metabolism that
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: we call diabetes. Diabetes is a condition that stems from
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: the obesit in the liver. OBEs is not because you're
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: eating too many calories. It's because the calories can no
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 2: longer be burned at the mitochondria level, which is where
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 2: they should be ending up. So OBEs happens when you're
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 2: eating two thousand, three thousand calories a day and can
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 2: only burn fifteen hundred calories a day because your mitochondria
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 2: have been poisoned by an antibiotic that's killing the bacteria
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 2: in the soil just as they're killing the bacteria inside
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 2: your cells, which are mitochondria. And so as we started
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 2: seeing these increasing levels of glyph sate and heading through
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 2: the system, you end up with diabetes within a few
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 2: years because fat stored in the liver, which is where
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 2: everything gets redirected to if it can't burn in the cell,
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 2: will ultimately give you insulin resistance. As you get insulin resistance,
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 2: the insulin cannot get the carbohydrates into the cell anyways,
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 2: and so now you're starving twice. You can't burn it
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 2: at the mitochondria level, and you can't get the sugar there.
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: By the nineteen nineties, we start to develop widespread allergies.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 2: The most energy demanding system in the body is the
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 2: immune system. As the immune system started to fail and
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: its metabolic capacity, relationships started to fail, and we suddenly
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 2: started to develop a reactive relationship to the foods.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 3: We were eating.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: Wheat in nineteen ninety two starts causing a massive allergy
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 2: to gluten, and the glead and compound in there interacts
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 2: with glyphosate to syner logistically fracture this metabolic capacity. We
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 2: don't have gluten sense, it's we have a metabolic collapse.
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 2: That's called glife state poisoning. I'll show you the perview
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: science we published from that. Within a couple of years
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: of allergy, which is basically overwhelm of the immune system
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: to your environment. You ultimately end up with autoimmune disease.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 2: This is where your body no longer consents what's outside
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: and what's inside, and your body becomes the enemy. So
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: autoimmune disease is a steady destruction of your own body
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 2: by your own immune system that can't tell it's you.
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 2: You've lost cellular identity. Within a couple of years of that,
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 2: we develop neurologic conditions ADHD and autism, and our children
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and our adults, as well as MS
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: als and all the other neurologic general conditions in the middle.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 2: In a two year period, they all went logarithmic. By
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 2: the early two thousands, we're starting to realize we're in
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 2: the middle of a cancer epidemic. This is when I
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 2: was at the University of Virginia and developing chemotherapy, and
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: so cancer epidemic launches. Initially, it's really obvious leukemism, foam
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 2: was all these bow marrow things, and it's pretty soon
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: by the late in two thousands, it's solid tumors. It's
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 2: processly cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer, all of them going algorithmic,
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 2: and so just this explosion of cancer. And that's not
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 2: because there was more carcinogens around, it's because there was
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  Speaker 2: less life. There was less light per cubic centimeter. So
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  Speaker 2: every time we go down this ladder, we're seeing less
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 2: metabolic capacity left light per cubic centimeter. By the early
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  Speaker 2: twenty tens, we see this collapse of fertility around the world. Today,
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 2: two one hundred and ten countries around the world are
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 2: below the fertility rate necessary for replacement in one hundred
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 2: and ten countries below. The United States is way below
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 2: one point six instead of two point one. Infertility goes global.
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  Speaker 2: By the early twenty tens, entercann disruption and genomic instability
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  Speaker 2: starts to occur. So these are things like methylation defects
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  Speaker 2: and we can no longer detox the body. So we
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 2: develop stories about lime disease and all these conditions of infections,
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 2: when in fact it's just toxicity that can no longer
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  Speaker 2: escape the body because we don't have the repair and
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 2: detox mechanisms there because the metabolism, the life light energy
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 2: percubu centimeter is diminishing. Finally, we see the emergence of
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  Speaker 2: gender dysregulation happening in the womb, and so this is
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 2: probably started in pockets around the world a couple decades ago,
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: but by the twenty tens, mid fifteens, we see this
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 2: happening regularly. And what's happening here is the biology is
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  Speaker 2: staying at neutral. Every fetus ever developed in the womb
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 2: of a woman starts at neutral, neither male nor female.
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 2: It starts at neutral, and then around ninety days of
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 2: embryologic development, it requires an explosion of energy from the
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 2: mitochondria within it, and it takes that ninety days really
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 2: not to do anything at the human level, but you're
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 2: growing the garden. You're growing the microbial garden inside the
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 2: human to get ready for this massive energy discharge that's
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 2: going to polarize the biology to become male or female.
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 2: So to move from neutral to male or neutral of
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  Speaker 2: female requires this huge energetic thing that we call puberty.
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 2: So the first puberty happens at ninety days in the womb.
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  Speaker 2: There's another one that happens late phase in uter and
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 2: then there's a more typical one you see around four
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 2: or five years old, where you start to see differentiation
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 2: of some of the physical features of boys and girls,
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 2: and then the classic one around ten to thirteen years old,
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 2: and then another one around eighteen to twenty one, and
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 2: then a final burst that happens in your late twenties.
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  Speaker 2: So we go through all of these huge energetic discharges
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 2: that create polarity, that move you away from neutral to
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 2: one or the other of the sexes. And this isn't
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 2: like sex as a preference. This is literal neurologic expression.
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 2: This is the neurology of the deep brain forming the
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: behavioral traits of a human being to become male traits
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 2: female traits. If you've ever had two kids, I don't
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 2: know if you've got kids, but I've got a daughter
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 2: and a son. They're both adults now and married and thriving.
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 2: But when you watch a kid develop, it's unbelievable what's
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 2: pre programmed in there. The male traits can appear. By
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 2: the time they're six months nine months old, they're doing
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 2: something different than their sister did at that same phase.
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 2: So there's what we're talking about, is this deep programming
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 2: of the biology as it goes away from center. By
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 2: the time, we had this much clive state in the system.
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 2: So this whole cascade from nineteen seventy six to twenty twenty.
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 2: You're looking at this yellow line that's traveling up there.
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 2: That's the amount of life state sprayed into our global environment. Today,
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 2: we spray three billion to four billion pounds of life
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 2: state into our global soils. Three billion pounds of anything
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: is disgusting, but this is unbelievable amount of antibiotic. That
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 2: much antibiotic has reduced the metabolic life force of our
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 2: planet and our species to the point where we have
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 2: a chronic disease explosion by the nineteen nineties, and infertility
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 2: collapse of the species, and then gender dysregulation. So this
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 2: is how a species goes extinct, is it loses its
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 2: metabolic capacity to concentrate light energy. Light percubic centimeter is
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 2: how life occurs. Biosis is the interconnected relationships that make
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 2: life possible. You undermine those relationships, you decrease the number
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 2: of relationships per cubic centimeter, and you start to see
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 2: this pattern evolving of a decrease in repair and regeneration,
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 2: and so that you're to repair versus your rate of
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 2: injury suddenly goes out of whack, and a previous rate
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 2: of injury of eating bread gluten has a slight impact
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 2: on you gut behavior. Slight decrease there and you lose
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 2: fidelity and the whole thing starts to degrade. So I've
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: spent the last fifteen years of my life building systems
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 2: with people around us that are already tuning into this
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 2: wider antenna to say, what does biology look like fully supported?
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 2: So we've created these online programs called Journey, which is
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: journing humanity back into natural systems to fully support not
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 2: only the biology in the way it repairs, regenerates, but
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 2: fully open up the antenna to remember what we were
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 2: supposed to be doing here, to remember what it feels
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 2: like to be between Heaven and Earth, to be floating
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 2: in this cosmic stew of curiosity, creativity, productivity. That's what's
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 2: going to make humans humans again. So when we allow
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 2: our children to become between again and start to stop
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 2: being programmed into machine like behavior and start to open
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 2: up their antenna, we can decide to do that as
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 2: a society and proactively go about this, or autism will
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 2: emerge to the point where one in three children will
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 2: have autism by twenty thirty five. And we do this anyways,
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 2: we are going to develop a neurology to escape our
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 2: mechanical history. Our anti nature, antibiotic nature is going to
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 2: come to end because bodies are always going to win.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 2: Nature's always going to reinvent herself out of whatever stressor
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 2: is pushing on her right that moment, Right now, human
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 2: behavior is pushing on nature. If we stop doing that
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 2: and we let nature come back in, we get to
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 2: be part of the solution.
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 3: We can become part of it.
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 2: We step right back into the right relationship with the
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 2: keystone species.
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 1: If people want to see more of this and they
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 1: want to read more about what was your website.
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 2: Zach Bush MD is the website and the book is
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 2: Biological Elegance, and you're gonna only find it there. We're
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 2: not putting out on Amazon. We're not asking anybody to
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 2: go after money or abstract systems. We're asking for engagement.
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 2: I don't want followers, I want builders. I want create
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 2: I want the co creators that are going to come
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 2: build this new world with us. This is my excitement
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 2: and passion. I think you're doing a great job pushing
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 2: us there.
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and I know you're going to get
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that check this out.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited. This is a fun conversation. Let's definitely
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 1: do another one. I look forward you all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much,