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The Late Debate | 9 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the Late Base.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he could do to make people happy.
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Speaker 2: That's get out of that marital bed and start divorce proceedings.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk a bit more about that later. I'm Caleb
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Speaker 2: Bond with freyer Leitch and Joe Hildebrand. Here's what else
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Speaker 2: is coming up tonight. We know crime in Victoria is bad,
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Speaker 2: but choplifting is apparently at such a high rate that
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Speaker 2: supermarkets are going to extra lengths to stop people from
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Speaker 2: stealing chocolates and vitamins of all things. In the papers,
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Speaker 2: climate anxiety is a real thing amongst children. We know
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Speaker 2: that they think the world is going to burn to
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Speaker 2: a crisp, but they're also dealing with camp anxiety. They
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Speaker 2: are too scared, apparently to go on school camp because
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Speaker 2: they're anxious. And later, Formercy and n host Don Lemon
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Speaker 2: put a microphone under someone's nose on the street and
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Speaker 2: boy did he cop it.
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Speaker 3: You're thank you, so are you.
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Speaker 1: We'll show you that full video a little later, but let's.
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Speaker 2: Begin tonight with Monique Ryan and her new best friend,
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull. Of course, he was once a liberal prime
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Speaker 2: minister and once upon a time, Manique Ryan posted on
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Speaker 2: her own Facebook page before she went into politics with
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Speaker 2: a story that included on the front of it a
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Speaker 2: picture of Malcolm Turnbull that he was a national disgrace.
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Speaker 2: Well she's forgotten all about that, and now she's going
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Speaker 2: to have an event with him on November the twenty
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Speaker 2: eighth at Hawthorne Town Hall. If you, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: really bored that night, so you want to go along,
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Speaker 2: you can find it online. It's called Monique Ryan MP
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Speaker 2: in Conversation with Malcolm Turnbull Australia's National Security in a
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Speaker 2: changing world. So you now have a former Liberal Prime
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Speaker 2: minister who I mean, I don't know, we don't even
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Speaker 2: know if he's a member of the Liberal Party anymore.
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Speaker 2: He's been carrying on about the Teals and supporting everyone
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Speaker 2: but the Liberal Party for a long time. But teaming
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Speaker 2: up with a Teal MP who once set that he
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Speaker 2: was a national disgrace to have a great love in.
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Speaker 2: I mean, can you think of a better event to
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Speaker 2: go to now? It's interesting because the Australian put it
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Speaker 2: to Monique Ryan that she had once put this post
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Speaker 2: online saying that the Prime Minister was a national disgrace.
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Speaker 1: Or was it that the story she.
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Speaker 2: Was linking to, which was about money being taken away
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Speaker 2: from asylum seeker matters, that that was a national disgrace,
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Speaker 2: or that it was a national disgrace that someone had
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Speaker 2: pointed out that the money was being taken away.
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Speaker 1: We don't actually know.
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Speaker 2: So the Australian did ask Monique Ryan, would you care
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Speaker 2: to clarify why this now deleted post? Mind you was
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Speaker 2: put up with the Prime Minister space space saying national
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Speaker 2: disgrace and they came back with approximately nothing. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I think we have some exclusive footage from Monique Ryan's office.
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Speaker 1: The problem is the Prime Minister did try to suppress
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Speaker 1: the chapter, didn't he I don't know he didn't.
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Speaker 3: Don't you remember what I remember? Is irrelevant to Bernard.
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Speaker 4: If the minutes don't say that he did, then he didn't.
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Speaker 1: So you want me to falsify the minutes.
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Speaker 2: I want nothing at the sort up.
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Speaker 1: To you, Bernard, what do you want? I want to
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Speaker 1: have a clear conscience, A clear conscience?
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Speaker 4: Yes, when did you acquire this taste for luxuries?
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Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean, he isn't it convenient you go from
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turbule's a national disgrace too.
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Speaker 1: He's the best made of the Teals.
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Speaker 5: Well, Look, the fact that Malcolm Turbull is a national
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Speaker 5: disgrace is probably the only thing I agree with Manick
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Speaker 5: Ryan on, so I think she might actually have a
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Speaker 5: point on that one.
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Speaker 4: He is a national disgrace.
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Speaker 5: He was also an extremely ineffective Prime minister and just
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Speaker 5: so ungrateful. I get that he's mad, I get that
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Speaker 5: he's still bitter that he got rolled as leader. But
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Speaker 5: he did the same thing, if not worse, to Tony
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Speaker 5: Abbott for years and years, constantly undermining him, leaking against him.
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Speaker 5: Yet Tony Abbott is still a card carrying member of
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Speaker 5: the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 4: He still mentors up and coming talent.
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Speaker 5: He adds productively to the conversation, weighs in where relevant,
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Speaker 5: where productive and useful for the party. You could not
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Speaker 5: find a greater contrast with Malcolm Turnbull, someone who the
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Speaker 5: only time he chimes in in the media is to
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Speaker 5: sledge the Liberal Party, making all sorts of horrible inferences
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Speaker 5: around a cover up of the Brittany Higgins saga, calling
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Speaker 5: Peter Dutton a thug, criticizing orcus I mean, has this
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Speaker 5: guy said one nice thing about the Liberal Party since
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Speaker 5: he got rolled as Prime Minister? I just can't get
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Speaker 5: over how arrogant he is. He needs to stay in
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Speaker 5: Point Piper, wherever he lives, and just like do not
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Speaker 5: come out. He's clearly been spending too much time watching
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Speaker 5: the ABC and they're the only people that listen to
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Speaker 5: what he says anyway, and now he's found a new
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Speaker 5: audience in the Teals. It's great for him, but he
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Speaker 5: is such a waste of space.
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Speaker 3: The truth is he always really was a tilly. He
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Speaker 3: was never very it was never very good. It didn't
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Speaker 3: really fit in either of the parties. Obviously. I speak
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Speaker 3: to a lot of people in the Labor part and
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Speaker 3: they told me about I think what is a pretty
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Speaker 3: infamous meeting he had with a couple of power brokers
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Speaker 3: and wanted to join, and one of the people who
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Speaker 3: was there sort of said to me, so this guy
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Speaker 3: is just not one of our people. He's just not
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Speaker 3: one of us. And so you know, he goes over
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Speaker 3: to the Liberal Party and how many people did he
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Speaker 3: recruit to that branch to roll Peter King? Because again,
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Speaker 3: this is the thing. Malcolm Turnbull is someone who was very,
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Speaker 3: very schooled in the art of political assassination. He basically
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Speaker 3: branched Oack for Australia to roll Peter King, the sitting
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Speaker 3: member for Wemouth, and that's fine, all's fair in love
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Speaker 3: in politics. And then he and he got the opposition leadership.
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Speaker 3: There was ute Gate. Let's not forget that. Remember that
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Speaker 3: Godwin gretch, that little incident. Then of course it disappeared,
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Speaker 3: and that almost seriously got forgotten and forgive. And then
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Speaker 3: you know Tony Abbott, whether Turnbull undermined him or whether
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Speaker 3: you know, the party room just started to get panicked
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Speaker 3: by that infamous number of news polls. But again, Malcolm
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Speaker 3: Turnbull then plunged the knife into the back of Tony Abbott.
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Speaker 3: And that's part of politics. I didn't like that, and
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Speaker 3: I didn't like it when Turnbull got rolled himself because
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Speaker 3: I was sick of the leadership instability. But this idea
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Speaker 3: that somehow he would have been or was a great
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Speaker 3: prime minister. It would have been even greater had not
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Speaker 3: all these mysterious forces not conspired against him and broken
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Speaker 3: all these rules and done all these terrible underhanded things
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Speaker 3: that he himself had been perfectly happy to do when
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Speaker 3: they're in his vantage. Let's not forget. Another great chapter
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Speaker 3: was when I believe he raised a question a very
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to make light of it, a
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Speaker 3: question about a person who suicided and raised a question
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Speaker 3: mark over whether or not it was actually suicide, that
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Speaker 3: perhaps there had been some other, someone else's role involved.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is how much it's kind of in
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Speaker 3: his head that everything is someone out to get him,
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Speaker 3: someone else's mysterious forces around. And the truth is that
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Speaker 3: Malcolm Turnbull is just really really bad at politics. He's
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Speaker 3: a great lawyer, he's terrible politics. He lost the unlosable
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Speaker 3: election almost in twenty sixteen, and he lost a referendum,
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Speaker 3: lost the referendum of course, and again. And now he's
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Speaker 3: hanging out with Monique Ryan, who, you know, if even
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Speaker 3: half the stuff that Sally Rugg says about her is true,
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Speaker 3: is a very very unpleasant person. And so not since
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Speaker 3: Sally rug and Monique Ryan got together in the same room,
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Speaker 3: I think have two people deserved each other as much
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Speaker 3: as Malcolm Turnbull and Monique Ryan. So can I just say,
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Speaker 3: personally to whoever whichever god you believe in, you know, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jewish,
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Speaker 3: thank you.
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Speaker 2: Let's move on to Cole's in Victoria. Now we know
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Speaker 2: victory or is having big problems at the moment with crime.
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether you were watching at four o'clock
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Speaker 2: today Politics Now with Andrew glell.
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Speaker 1: You should watch it every day.
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Speaker 2: He had an interview with the head of the Insurance
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Speaker 2: Council talking about car thefts in Victoria, which now make
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Speaker 2: up more than half of the total car thefts in
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Speaker 2: the country.
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Speaker 1: That's how bad crime is in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: So the supermarket's now obviously dealing with the shoplifting in
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Speaker 2: their shops too, and one coal store has gone to
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Speaker 2: the lengths of putting up those sort of monitors that
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Speaker 2: show the CCTV in particular aisles. And I think for
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Speaker 2: a long time we've all known, you know, like you
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Speaker 2: walk into a shop and there's a monitor there that
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Speaker 2: you can look up and you see yourself walking into
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Speaker 2: the shop, which is a bit of a morning you're
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Speaker 2: on CCTV.
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Speaker 1: We all get that.
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Speaker 2: But they're now putting them up at one store which
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Speaker 2: is Burrward East, at least one store anyway above particular items.
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Speaker 1: Including as you can see their chocolate. I mean they're
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Speaker 1: putting these things up in the chocolate aisle.
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Speaker 2: One assumes because people are stealing large quantities of chocolate.
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Speaker 2: They put one up in the vitamin aisle because I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I.
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Speaker 1: Guess it's the sort of people who are shoplifting.
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Speaker 2: They put one up where the electric toothbrushes are.
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Speaker 1: They are over pride, well that they are.
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Speaker 2: They but you know, of all the things, we've reached
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Speaker 2: the point in Victoria now we're supermarkets trying to combat
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Speaker 2: people stealing chocolate.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it's absurd.
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Speaker 5: And Cole said that retail crime in Victoria is forty
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Speaker 5: percent higher than it is just across the border in
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Speaker 5: New South Wales. So this is a localized problem. So
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Speaker 5: you have to ask, well, what is going on specifically
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Speaker 5: in Victoria that you have this level of crime. The
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Speaker 5: lefties will say, oh, it's just the cost of living.
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Speaker 5: These people, they're just battlers, and shame on the supermarkets
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Speaker 5: for raking in billions of dollars of profits when people.
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Speaker 4: Can't eat, that's why they're stealing.
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Speaker 5: But if that were the case, this would be a
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Speaker 5: uniform trend we would be seeing across the country. The
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Speaker 5: fact that it is limited to Victoria shows either people
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Speaker 5: just think this is a completely lawless state where they
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Speaker 5: can get away with shoplifting and face no consequences or
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Speaker 5: that's about it. That is the only reason why people
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Speaker 5: would be doing this, and so really this is an
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Speaker 5: indictment of labor. And the problem is once you get
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Speaker 5: into this cycle of people thinking that the law doesn't
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Speaker 5: apply to them, crime just escalates. This becomes the culture
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Speaker 5: and soon they will end up like us run cities.
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Speaker 5: When I was in New York last year, you can't
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Speaker 5: even go to a pharmacist and grab things off the
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Speaker 5: shelves because everything is behind locked cabinets.
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Speaker 4: That is where Victoria is heading.
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Speaker 3: It's like going to a bottle shop in Sweden. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever had to do that. They're
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Speaker 3: called system blargets. You've got to go in there and
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Speaker 3: you've got to hand over a little list and then
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Speaker 3: a guy goes back with a trolley behind some sort
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Speaker 3: of cage. Class But anyway, enough about my PTSD from
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Speaker 3: my visit to Stockholm. The interesting thing about this is
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Speaker 3: that it's Burwood East, So Bilt East as a old
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Speaker 3: is I certainly do not grow up in Burwerdese. I
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Speaker 3: wish I grew up in Burwardee Belt East is like
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Speaker 3: the leafy you know, classy East and subbers I think
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Speaker 3: it's actually in the Aston electorate, so very safe liberal
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Speaker 3: seat until recently. And so if people are shoplifting there
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Speaker 3: because of cost of living pressures, or shoplifting there because
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Speaker 3: they just feel like they can get away with it,
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Speaker 3: like that is a pretty heavy bell weather. Like that's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, a shoplifting where I grew up in Daniel.
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Speaker 3: I'll be, you know, cheering the mind, so I could
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Speaker 3: on you, you know, I do a month for the
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Speaker 3: home team. But you know, again, you would sort of
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Speaker 3: expect that in a depressed area where people are struggling
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Speaker 3: and where crime rates are higher. Anyway, if they're doing
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Speaker 3: it in Burwart East, god knows what's happening in other
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Speaker 3: parts of the city.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it just shows you the state of Victoria.
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Speaker 5: Let's move on now to some controversy that seems to
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Speaker 5: be dividing the internet.
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Speaker 4: A radio presenter based up in.
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Speaker 5: Queensland, Nikki Osborne, allegedly walked into a Quantus club and
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Speaker 5: was instructed by staff to cover her cleavage because it
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Speaker 5: was distracting.
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Speaker 4: Here's how she put it.
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Speaker 6: I think Sydney Sweeney, if she was flat chested, would
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Speaker 6: not be copying everything that she's copying right now. If
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Speaker 6: women have cleavage, they are treated not as well. That's
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Speaker 6: my opinion.
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Speaker 4: And to the the.
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Speaker 5: Incident that catalyzed this was, as I said, she went
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Speaker 5: into a quantus club. They told her that she had
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Speaker 5: too much cleavage out and she needed to button.
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Speaker 4: Up her shirt.
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Speaker 5: Now, I personally think it is not your and look,
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Speaker 5: I'll leave this one for you guys. Don't get any
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Speaker 5: HR complaints after this. But I would say it is.
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Speaker 5: Some people's biology is different. It is hard for women
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Speaker 5: who have large breasts because a lot of the clothes
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Speaker 5: that not like smaller women could wear do look more
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Speaker 5: inappropriate on them. So I'm not saying that this is
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Speaker 5: a universal thing than anyone who shows any.
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Speaker 4: Cleavage, I'll carve yourself wear a.
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Speaker 5: Burker no, But she was told to button up, so
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Speaker 5: she had buttons on a shirt that she clearly did
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Speaker 5: not choose.
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Speaker 4: To button up.
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Speaker 5: I think as a woman, you generally or anyone you know,
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Speaker 5: when you put on certain clothing, the kind of message
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Speaker 5: it's going to send, you make a stylistic choice and
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Speaker 5: generally dress according to the image you want to present
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Speaker 5: the occasion you're going to. And so I think it
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Speaker 5: is perfectly reasonable in a quantus club if someone's come
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Speaker 5: in and they got it all showing. No people don't
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Speaker 5: want to see that, and that is totally okay. Well
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Speaker 5: maybe you do, but I.
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Speaker 2: Club, you know, you get ready to take off on holiday. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: I just think the keys really like who cares. Nikki
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Speaker 2: Osborne is a good looking woman and she knows she
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Speaker 2: looks good.
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Speaker 1: Go and look at the social media.
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Speaker 2: She's quite confident in her own body if she wants
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Speaker 2: to show up a bit of.
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Speaker 1: Cleavage, you know.
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Speaker 4: But the problem is the winging.
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Speaker 5: What I don't like is the victim mindset. Afterwards have
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Speaker 5: been like, oh, I'm so pressed. They objectify me. They
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Speaker 5: only see me for my body. Well, look at what
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Speaker 5: you're wearing, look at what you're posting on social media.
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Speaker 4: It's all a signaling mechanism. If you don't want people
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Speaker 4: to talk.
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Speaker 5: About your body or look at your body, well don't
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Speaker 5: have it out and flaunt it.
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Speaker 3: Can I say? It's probably the only member of the
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Speaker 3: panel who is also objectified because of their incredible goods.
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Speaker 3: My eyes are up here, by the way, you haven't
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Speaker 3: seen the later I must admit I hadn't heard the
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Speaker 3: I'm oppressed because I've got because my boobs are too big.
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Speaker 3: I haven't heard that particular line of identity politics. But again,
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Speaker 3: if there was any line of identity politics I was
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Speaker 3: going to get behind would be that one. I think.
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Speaker 3: I think once, once you go down this right in
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Speaker 3: all seriousness, aren't we getting towards the kind of uncovered
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Speaker 3: meat kind of line of thinking where you have You know,
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Speaker 3: famously there was a shake who said that, you know,
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Speaker 3: if women go out in bikinis or whatever, or they're
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Speaker 3: they're showing too much flesh, they're basically kind of nudge nudge,
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Speaker 3: we're asking for it, or they have to cover up
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Speaker 3: because it's you know, too distracting. Because of course men
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Speaker 3: are incapable of not looking at a woman's cleavage, which
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Speaker 3: is true, but still isn't that something that man should
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Speaker 3: be trying.
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Speaker 1: To showing it off? It's because you don't mind it
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Speaker 1: being looked at. So why why is it? Where is
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Speaker 1: this problem exactly?
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Speaker 2: Why is it the business of quantus to be saying no.
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Speaker 1: You can't do that coming in busy?
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Speaker 3: What is club should be basic?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not the Australian club.
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Speaker 3: That's right, and quantas should be focused on its core
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Speaker 3: business of selling passengers plane tickets for flights that don't exist.
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Speaker 1: Correct, I just like, can we can we just move
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Speaker 1: on with the world.
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Speaker 2: If this is the biggest problem the Quantus has to
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Speaker 2: deal with right now, and it's not, I continue, seriously,
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Speaker 2: is anyone offended by a little bit of cleavage? I
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Speaker 2: don't think so if you're just.
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Speaker 5: I just I just think if you're gonna wear something
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Speaker 5: that puts it all out there, you don't have any
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Speaker 5: right to get on radio afterwards and complain about how
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Speaker 5: she's not.
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Speaker 3: Upset that people were looking at her or whatever. She
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Speaker 3: was upset that she was told you couldn't dreads you
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Speaker 3: wanted to.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's their right as a business, Caleb.
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Speaker 5: You always talk about how businesses should have a right to.
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Speaker 2: The equivalent they have legally they have the right to,
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Speaker 2: and I will fight the death their right to be
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Speaker 2: able to do it. I'm just saying, if that is
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Speaker 2: the way Quantus wants to conduct its business, I think
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Speaker 2: they've got some bigger problems to do.
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Speaker 4: They want to maintain decorum in the land. God for
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Speaker 4: bere bring back the burker they got back.
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Speaker 3: We wouldn't have this problem. We wouldn't even know whether
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Speaker 3: there were.
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Speaker 2: Women or not, mostly flying with Virgin the Great because
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Speaker 2: I don't walk into the Virgin lounge and get told
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Speaker 2: how to address Let's go over to Africa now for
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Speaker 2: a slight change of pace, where shock, horror, they've decided
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Speaker 2: that Britain should pay up reparations for the colonial world
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Speaker 2: that they set.
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Speaker 1: Up over there, historic crimes.
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Speaker 2: They describe it as there's been this summit going on
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Speaker 2: at the moment in Africa, in Ethiopia, the African Union Commission,
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Speaker 2: and they've got African leaders, they've got Caribbean leaders signing
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Speaker 2: up for this thing as well, all gathering around in
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Speaker 2: Ethiopia saying that they need reparatory justice and true liberation,
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Speaker 2: as though they don't already have liberation. I mean, that
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Speaker 2: was the point of written getting out of the way,
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Speaker 2: but I'm not sure what more you could possibly want.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, though this has been going on for some
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Speaker 2: time now, there's all these calls for reparations out of
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Speaker 2: every little country that had a small interaction with Britain
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Speaker 2: at some point in time, because they feel so aggrieved that,
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Speaker 2: you know, the British brought things like technology and different
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Speaker 2: foods and all these things to their countries that they
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Speaker 2: still enjoy today, and prosperity that they still enjoy today,
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Speaker 2: infrastructure that was built, the foundations of the country that
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Speaker 2: they still enjoy today. I'm sure they'll be happy to
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Speaker 2: rip all of that out of the ground and go
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Speaker 2: back to being nomadic mobs or whatever.
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Speaker 1: The hell they were.
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Speaker 2: But it's interestingly pointed out by the Telegraph in the UK,
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Speaker 2: which wrote this report that we showed you just before,
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Speaker 2: that there are actually many African kingdoms that, back in
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Speaker 2: the day when the British rocked up and were colonizing,
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Speaker 2: were great beneficiaries of the slave trade, including kingdoms in
18:53
Speaker 2: Africa that begged the British not to end the slave
18:57
Speaker 2: trade because they were making so much money. Adam So
19:01
Speaker 2: that being the case, if the UK has to pay
19:05
Speaker 2: reparations to Africa for that, do the Africans not also
19:09
Speaker 2: have to pay themselves reparations for what their royal families
19:13
Speaker 2: did to them.
19:14
Speaker 5: Well, Look, the idea that colonialism is the reason that
19:18
Speaker 5: Africa is poor is just fascical. It's disproved by African
19:23
Speaker 5: countries themselves. For example, Ethiopia and Liberia were never colonized.
19:28
Speaker 5: Yet you can't say they're somehow beacons of prosperity. On
19:32
Speaker 5: the other hand, Singapore was colonized by the British and
19:35
Speaker 5: they're now wealthier than the UK. So colonialism, while there
19:39
Speaker 5: may have been some tiny impact, it is not the
19:43
Speaker 5: reason Africa is poor. Africa is poor because of rampant corruption, communism,
19:49
Speaker 5: and the inability of anyone to do business. Some of
19:52
Speaker 5: the worst countries in the world to do business are
19:55
Speaker 5: in Africa. There is very little economic freedom and so
19:59
Speaker 5: you can't generate any prosperity. This is not about colonialism.
20:03
Speaker 5: This is about choices their leadership is making today. If anything,
20:09
Speaker 5: the current political class in Africa needs to pay reparations
20:12
Speaker 5: to their own people for what they're doing and they
20:15
Speaker 5: have been doing for the last fifty years, which is
20:18
Speaker 5: ripping them off. Tribalism has consumed the continent. It is horrible.
20:22
Speaker 5: You look at countries like Zimbabwe that have gone from
20:25
Speaker 5: being educated, reasonably well off countries to places where the
20:30
Speaker 5: majority of people are at.
20:31
Speaker 4: Risk of starvation. I mean, that is.
20:34
Speaker 5: What communism, tribalism and corruption have done to Africa. It's
20:38
Speaker 5: not colonization, I.
20:40
Speaker 3: Think well, colonization has done in incredible damage that the
20:42
Speaker 3: slave trade in particular has. I don't think there's any
20:45
Speaker 3: denying that, but it's true. The question is not do
20:49
Speaker 3: you just hand over all this money, but also you
20:51
Speaker 3: know what happens to that money once you're handed over
20:54
Speaker 3: who does it go to? And we know from the past,
20:56
Speaker 3: we know from the past. You know, since decolonization, huge amounts,
21:00
Speaker 3: you know, hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of billions of dollars,
21:03
Speaker 3: trillions of dollars has been injected into Africa and it
21:06
Speaker 3: hasn't worked because it wasn't ending up in the places
21:09
Speaker 3: where it was meant to be going, and often corrupt
21:11
Speaker 3: government officials were trousing it. And it is also true
21:13
Speaker 3: that often you know, I mean that you can't. Firstly,
21:16
Speaker 3: you know, if you're going to go after the British,
21:17
Speaker 3: you have to go after the French, the Spanish, the Portuguese,
21:20
Speaker 3: and especially the Belgians. The Belgians are particularly nasty, They're horrible,
21:24
Speaker 3: horrible people. But well, the people, the people were doing
21:27
Speaker 3: King Leopold, who was doing it in Africa. But also yes,
21:31
Speaker 3: and they were creating and yes, you know, African leaders
21:35
Speaker 3: and warlords were providing slaves to the white slave traders,
21:40
Speaker 3: but obviously the slave traders were creating a huge market
21:43
Speaker 3: for that that the war was like, oh wow, if
21:44
Speaker 3: we just pick on another lesser neighbor and round up
21:47
Speaker 3: all their people, we can get all their money from
21:50
Speaker 3: in there makes it, But yes, it is. It is
21:51
Speaker 3: certainly not as simple as just saying, oh, well, you
21:53
Speaker 3: took all this money away from us, and we're going
21:56
Speaker 3: to give it back. Compare in contrast to what Haiti
21:59
Speaker 3: had to do with the French, because this is a
22:01
Speaker 3: thing it is not without precedent. When Haiti the only
22:06
Speaker 3: colony that where slaves actually rose up and fought and
22:09
Speaker 3: won their own freedom, Haiti was forced to pay reparations
22:14
Speaker 3: to the French government for the cost of depriving them
22:18
Speaker 3: of all their slaves on Haiti. So that's the French
22:24
Speaker 3: and the French are terrible people.
22:25
Speaker 2: As crutch of the problem though, is that we're talking
22:28
Speaker 2: about stuff that was done hundreds and hundreds of years ago,
22:31
Speaker 2: and the concept here is that the sins of the
22:34
Speaker 2: father are to be visited upon the son. This is
22:38
Speaker 2: stuff to which people in the UK today, just as
22:41
Speaker 2: people who live in Australia today have no to very
22:45
Speaker 2: little connection to anything that happened during colonial times, and
22:51
Speaker 2: now we're told that we have to pay for things
22:55
Speaker 2: that we.
22:55
Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with hundreds of years ago.
22:59
Speaker 2: Why is it my job to pay for something that
23:01
Speaker 2: someone I never met did and that I have no
23:05
Speaker 2: connection to.
23:05
Speaker 5: And in this case, it will just enrich the corrupt
23:08
Speaker 5: political leaders and the cycle of poverty will continue. But
23:12
Speaker 5: something that is also just tragic is we've been talking
23:16
Speaker 5: about the case of this Ukrainian refugee in the US,
23:20
Speaker 5: Arena Zurutzka, who was senselessly and out of nowhere stabbed
23:24
Speaker 5: to death on public transport in Charlottesville, North Carolina. Well,
23:29
Speaker 5: now it's emerged that her alleged murderer, de Carlos Brown Junior,
23:35
Speaker 5: was out on bail at the time of the murder.
23:38
Speaker 5: He was on cashless bail. The only thing that he
23:43
Speaker 5: had to provide to the court was a promise that
23:46
Speaker 5: he would show up for the trial. That was it
23:50
Speaker 5: didn't even have to post any money, just to promise.
23:53
Speaker 5: And at the time, well, his mum has commented to
23:56
Speaker 5: the newspapers that he should have never been out in
23:58
Speaker 5: the community because he's danger to the community. And at
24:01
Speaker 5: the time his lawyers told the court, he is a
24:05
Speaker 5: danger to the community.
24:06
Speaker 4: Do not let him out.
24:08
Speaker 5: Yet the judge let him out on casual spale and
24:11
Speaker 5: now a young woman is dead.
24:14
Speaker 4: It is an absolute travesy.
24:15
Speaker 5: But this is where these woke left wing legal policies
24:19
Speaker 5: get you, where you don't actually take crime seriously, and
24:23
Speaker 5: you let people who've been arrested fourteen times, who have
24:26
Speaker 5: serious mental issues, you let them roam free.
24:29
Speaker 4: People die.
24:30
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, I think this is and it is a
24:33
Speaker 3: problem in Australia as well. Thankfully we don't have the
24:35
Speaker 3: crime rates that they have in the US. But it
24:37
Speaker 3: is because and I bang on about this all the time,
24:40
Speaker 3: it is because overwhelmingly the magistrates and the judges who
24:44
Speaker 3: release these people into the community aren't releasing them into
24:46
Speaker 3: their own communities. They live in the nice, leafy, safe
24:49
Speaker 3: communities like you know, East Birdwood where they have the
24:52
Speaker 3: CCTV and the Coles supermarkets. So eventually it comes for everybody,
24:56
Speaker 3: but the communities that are facing overwhelmingly statistically facing the
25:02
Speaker 3: kind of you know, the threat and the fear and
25:05
Speaker 3: the risk of these crimes. And again, I grew up
25:07
Speaker 3: in a suburb a very high crime right you know,
25:11
Speaker 3: where you do sort of you know, have to look
25:13
Speaker 3: around and you know where you do sort of worry
25:15
Speaker 3: about catching the train at night. This is these are
25:18
Speaker 3: not the places where the judges who have such admirable,
25:20
Speaker 3: laudable faith in humanity and the word of a repeat
25:24
Speaker 3: convicted felon dispatching these people too.
25:28
Speaker 2: It is just how many times do we need to
25:31
Speaker 2: see stuff like this? I mean we talk in this
25:33
Speaker 2: country all the time as well about issues with bail.
25:36
Speaker 2: How people keep getting letter out on bail over and
25:39
Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. And why
25:42
Speaker 2: does a magistrate or a judge or someone not say,
25:45
Speaker 2: hang on a minute. You've done this so many times
25:49
Speaker 2: there is a point at which we have to say
25:51
Speaker 2: you are a danger to the community. You don't get
25:55
Speaker 2: bail anymore because you start with low level crime. And
25:59
Speaker 2: some people eventually end up in a position like, oh,
26:03
Speaker 2: hang on a minute, my phone's reached. Just Cinta Allen,
26:06
Speaker 2: the Victorian Proud didn't know she watches it, Cinda, how
26:09
Speaker 2: are you? I didn't know you watched the show. Look,
26:13
Speaker 2: I would advise you not to look into the idea
26:15
Speaker 2: of cashless bail.
26:16
Speaker 1: I know things are bad in your state already, but
26:18
Speaker 1: don't go down that road. That's her deal with I mean,
26:22
Speaker 1: that's what I think about this.
26:24
Speaker 2: We could have things like this happen here very soon
26:28
Speaker 2: if we keep going down this road. And the language
26:31
Speaker 2: around this case as well. I mean, we told you
26:33
Speaker 2: last night obviously about the fact that this happened last month,
26:36
Speaker 2: and it's been basically unreported by the media in the
26:39
Speaker 2: United States. It's only getting traction now because people started
26:43
Speaker 2: talking about it on social media over the weekend.
26:45
Speaker 1: And the language used by the Mayor.
26:48
Speaker 2: Of Charlotte, by Lyles in relation to this case is staggering,
26:53
Speaker 2: she said, And just keep in mud.
26:55
Speaker 1: We've shown you the footage.
26:57
Speaker 2: This is a bloke, unprovoked from behind, pulling out pocket
27:00
Speaker 2: knife and stabbing an innocent woman.
27:03
Speaker 1: And her comments to a local journalist.
27:05
Speaker 2: In Charlotte were this is a tragic situation that she'd's
27:09
Speaker 2: light on problems with society safety nets related to mental
27:13
Speaker 2: health care and the systems that should be in place.
27:18
Speaker 2: She also said that this chap de Carlos Brown Jr.
27:22
Speaker 2: Appears to have suffered a christs He's not the only one.
27:26
Speaker 2: I mean, he ought to be suffering a crisis very soon.
27:30
Speaker 1: In a jail cell for a very long time. They've
27:34
Speaker 1: got the footage. This is going to be an open chatcase.
27:36
Speaker 2: But how can you see something like that happen and
27:40
Speaker 2: describe it in those Oh, you know, if only the
27:42
Speaker 2: mental health system was better, these things wouldn't happen.
27:46
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is beyond the mental health system. This
27:49
Speaker 1: is the justice system. It's the courts.
27:52
Speaker 2: It's the fact that this bloke was out on casual's
27:54
Speaker 2: bail and no one talked about this.
27:57
Speaker 1: Girl being killed for weeks. Yeah.
28:00
Speaker 5: Well, and she actually praised media outlets who didn't post
28:05
Speaker 5: the footage. She claims out of respect for the victim's family,
28:09
Speaker 5: but in reality it's probably because she didn't want the
28:12
Speaker 5: public seeing what was truly going on. But someone, thankfully
28:16
Speaker 5: in the US who does care about American citizens and
28:19
Speaker 5: putting American lives first is President Donald.
28:22
Speaker 4: Trump, who we talk a lot about on this show.
28:25
Speaker 5: Now, he is weighing up tightening restrictions around diplomats, so
28:31
Speaker 5: he's already refused the visa for Palestinian President Muhammud Abbas,
28:35
Speaker 5: so he won't be able to attend the UN General
28:38
Speaker 5: Assembly meeting in September, and he's looking at a range
28:42
Speaker 5: of other restrictions to place on unfriendly diplomats. One of
28:46
Speaker 5: the things that the State Department is considering is stopping
28:50
Speaker 5: Iranian officials from being able to go and bulk by
28:55
Speaker 5: products and then ship them back.
28:57
Speaker 4: Home at a low cost.
28:58
Speaker 5: Apparently this is all They'll go to these American bolk
29:01
Speaker 5: stores like Costco, buy stuff and then ship it back
29:05
Speaker 5: to Iran.
29:06
Speaker 4: So the State Department is way stopping that.
29:09
Speaker 5: I just love that that the new trick to crack
29:13
Speaker 5: down on unfriendly foreign diplomats. Stop them shopping at Costco.
29:18
Speaker 5: If you've ever been to Costco, it is a wonderful story.
29:21
Speaker 5: You can't walk out without spending like five hundred dollars.
29:24
Speaker 3: Doesn't It makes you feel half the size you are
29:26
Speaker 3: because everything is twice as big. It's like, here's your
29:29
Speaker 3: jar and peanut butter, Sir. I've got to admit, I
29:33
Speaker 3: thought I'd seen everything, but I did not know that
29:36
Speaker 3: Iranian diplomat bulk buying at Costco so they could send
29:40
Speaker 3: it back to Tehran and make a tidy, little, tighty
29:43
Speaker 3: little creamer on the top. I didn't know that was
29:46
Speaker 3: a thing. But we are going to.
29:49
Speaker 7: Everything.
29:50
Speaker 1: We've reached new levels of the entrepreneurial spirit.
29:53
Speaker 3: And it's good to know that the Iranians are getting
29:54
Speaker 3: in on capitalism.
29:56
Speaker 2: Supply, everyone who see that they don't like capitalism is
30:01
Speaker 2: usually the biggest proponent of capitalism when it enriches themselves.
30:05
Speaker 2: I didn't know this was a thing. I mean, good
30:08
Speaker 2: on Donald Trump to do it. I suppose it fits
30:10
Speaker 2: into all of the businesses with his tariffs as well.
30:12
Speaker 2: He's simply saying, we deserve a fee a deal. You
30:14
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to come into our country and take
30:17
Speaker 2: things from us and then send them back home and
30:19
Speaker 2: presumably sell them on a to profit. If you want
30:22
Speaker 2: to get your hands on those sorts of products, buy
30:25
Speaker 2: them through the same channels as everyone else, and pay
30:27
Speaker 2: the taxes and tariffs that you ought to pay fair enough,
30:31
Speaker 2: especially when Iran openly chance death to Israel death to America.
30:35
Speaker 4: In Iran.
30:36
Speaker 5: On the Iranian regimes worldview, America is the great Satan.
30:41
Speaker 5: They are actively working to destroy the country. Yet when
30:44
Speaker 5: they get their junkit to the US, they love to
30:48
Speaker 5: enjoy everything that America has to offer, which is massive
30:52
Speaker 5: over consumption of both goods that you do not need
30:55
Speaker 5: capitalism about Satan.
30:58
Speaker 1: He's Delicious's to America.
31:01
Speaker 3: Maybe to risk. Maybe Trump took a leaf out of
31:06
Speaker 3: our guy Albow's book, because we didn't let our Iranian
31:10
Speaker 3: ambassador even stop and you pick up a few supplies
31:13
Speaker 3: at Costcos and Casula. On his way out, he had
31:15
Speaker 3: to go straight straight down the M five and the
31:17
Speaker 3: way you go. Someone who also may find themselves getting
31:21
Speaker 3: a frosty reception in another country is our very own
31:26
Speaker 3: Prince Harry. Yes, we are still a member of the
31:27
Speaker 3: Commonwealth and he's still our prince. He just doesn't do anything.
31:31
Speaker 3: But Prince Harry is visiting, is going back to the UK.
31:35
Speaker 3: He's doing some charity work Slash just maybe trying to
31:39
Speaker 3: get away from Megan as she does yet another TV
31:41
Speaker 3: series and I couldn't blame. And there is big speculation
31:48
Speaker 3: that this could be the one that he could actually
31:51
Speaker 3: meet up with the big guy, Charlie, Chuck, Chaz, King
31:57
Speaker 3: Charles the Third. Could they after years of not speaking
32:01
Speaker 3: to each other? Could there be what the French call
32:04
Speaker 3: and I believe King Charles is also styled as the
32:07
Speaker 3: King of France because they still haven't gotten over one
32:10
Speaker 3: hundred years war. Could there be a detent?
32:14
Speaker 1: Well, I mean think there could be. I'll tell you
32:15
Speaker 1: one person he's not going to have a detente with.
32:18
Speaker 2: Is his brother, because the schedule that has been released
32:24
Speaker 2: for the Prince of Wales means he is busy every
32:29
Speaker 2: day that Harry is in the UK. And I think
32:33
Speaker 2: that's the most interesting part of all of this is
32:35
Speaker 2: that even if he manages to get a meeting with
32:38
Speaker 2: the King, which he doesn't really deserve, by the way,
32:42
Speaker 2: I don't think he's done anything to this point to
32:45
Speaker 2: show any contrition or apologize in any way for anything
32:49
Speaker 2: that's transpired. He's just sort of hoping that, you know,
32:53
Speaker 2: the family will do the right thing and let him
32:55
Speaker 2: back in. But why, I mean, you gave up your
32:57
Speaker 2: service and bug it off to the United States. They're
33:00
Speaker 2: all still they're doing their jobs, and you decided you'd
33:02
Speaker 2: run off with your new flues.
33:05
Speaker 1: But if his brother does not want.
33:07
Speaker 2: To see him, and it would seem to be that
33:09
Speaker 2: way because he's packed out the diary while bro is
33:12
Speaker 2: in town, I think that says a lot about where
33:15
Speaker 2: they're at.
33:15
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it's pretty incredible because they will be
33:18
Speaker 5: just eleven kilometers away from each other. They're at separate
33:22
Speaker 5: events MNY, but eleven kilometers, so so close, yet so
33:25
Speaker 5: so far.
33:26
Speaker 4: But compare Harry, who did the Oprah.
33:29
Speaker 5: Interview, did the Netflix expose, did the book, just endlessly
33:33
Speaker 5: winging about the incredibly privileged life he.
33:37
Speaker 4: Has been blessed with.
33:38
Speaker 5: Compare that to Princess Catherine, who has battled cancer yet
33:43
Speaker 5: is still showing up day after day to put a
33:45
Speaker 5: smile on people's faces. She even came and greeted the
33:50
Speaker 5: Australian women's female rugby team. Check it out, well, give
33:55
Speaker 5: us a mob to the month, the beginning of.
34:00
Speaker 4: Time state for you know, when.
34:01
Speaker 5: We's school across the women stadiums like this, she is
34:09
Speaker 5: just a picture of elegance. She grace, she's gorgeous, She
34:14
Speaker 5: puts a smile in everyone's face. It's never about her,
34:17
Speaker 5: It's always just about lifting people up, even for our
34:21
Speaker 5: good old wall ARUs which I found out they're called
34:23
Speaker 5: women's rugby, How good And.
34:25
Speaker 3: Going into their dressing room and again just you talked
34:27
Speaker 3: about that grace and saying you know, well done, you
34:30
Speaker 3: know you gave us a really good run for our money.
34:34
Speaker 3: The scoreline, incidentally was forty seven to seven. K goes
34:41
Speaker 3: in there. I was so close, we were really worried
34:44
Speaker 3: there for a while. My dad is what a good person.
34:46
Speaker 2: She's given the colonies a pedal on the backs as
34:49
Speaker 2: they do.
34:50
Speaker 1: And by the way, there is a roadback I.
34:52
Speaker 2: Think for Harry, legitimate road back because let's I mean
34:55
Speaker 2: even say they love Camilla now, like I mean, she
34:58
Speaker 2: was public enemy number one once more a time and
35:02
Speaker 2: she's really come into her own. If Harry gets rid
35:04
Speaker 2: of Meghan and comes back with his tail between his legs,
35:07
Speaker 2: the child.
35:08
Speaker 1: Harry, I'm very sorry for everything I've done. I'm back.
35:12
Speaker 2: I think they'll take him back. But he's got to
35:14
Speaker 2: be able to say.
35:15
Speaker 3: Child kept Camillo Caleb. Yeah, so he's got to keep.
35:18
Speaker 3: If it makes sense, then the then Harry's got Harry
35:24
Speaker 3: needs to pretend to be a tampon.
35:26
Speaker 2: God, Mady, we don't need to go there again. We
35:29
Speaker 2: get thought that was there was a romantic anyway, hey,
35:32
Speaker 2: quickly before we get to a break Noo City Council
35:35
Speaker 2: in Victoria, they've been going through a fight with one
35:38
Speaker 2: of their child kis centers.
35:40
Speaker 1: Council around child care.
35:41
Speaker 2: Centers because the workers want to pay rise and the
35:43
Speaker 2: council is refusing to give it to them. That the
35:46
Speaker 2: workers have been saying, you can go to the federal
35:48
Speaker 2: government apply under the Early Childhood Educated work Retention Payment
35:52
Speaker 2: Grant and we'll get a fifteen percent pay rise straight away.
35:55
Speaker 2: And the council, for some reason better known to other people,
35:57
Speaker 2: is just refusing.
35:58
Speaker 1: To put this application in.
36:00
Speaker 2: So last night they staged a protest out the front
36:02
Speaker 2: of the council chambers while the council meeting was going on.
36:06
Speaker 2: It's parents and childcare workers hosting, of all things, a
36:10
Speaker 2: children's party with Bluey to get their message across.
36:14
Speaker 1: He was Zoe Edwards from the ASU Ellie.
36:17
Speaker 3: Childhood Educated in local government work hard and they deliver
36:21
Speaker 3: a quality service.
36:23
Speaker 1: What a ripper idea.
36:24
Speaker 2: Let's have kids parties out the front of the council chambers,
36:28
Speaker 2: God forbid. The kids might actually learn something about how
36:30
Speaker 2: these councils work, and they too will be as annoyed
36:33
Speaker 2: as I am almost every night on this program about
36:36
Speaker 2: the existence of councils. After the break, we'll get into
36:39
Speaker 2: the papers. Kids apparently are too anxious to go on
36:43
Speaker 2: school camps and more. Can you believe that while we're
36:45
Speaker 2: talking about kids in schools? Another great story or not
36:48
Speaker 2: so great so, depending on your perspective, But what kids
36:51
Speaker 2: are going to be taught about how this country began
36:54
Speaker 2: in Guestwich State, Victoria.
36:56
Speaker 1: Don't go way.
37:05
Speaker 2: Let's get into the papers, starting with the Australian Tomorrow.
37:08
Speaker 1: Frack.
37:08
Speaker 5: Yes, the headline that's caught our eyes all about the
37:10
Speaker 5: Higgins defamation trial. The price of not saying sorry one
37:16
Speaker 5: point five million dollars, deep regret and the feelings not mutual.
37:21
Speaker 5: Britney Higgins is likely to pay about one point five
37:24
Speaker 5: million dollars towards Linda Reynolds's legal costs from their defamation
37:28
Speaker 5: dispute after a WA Supreme Court ruling that also reveals
37:32
Speaker 5: the ex Liberal staffer offered her former boss two hundred
37:35
Speaker 5: thousand dollars and to issue a mutual statement of regret
37:40
Speaker 5: to end the.
37:41
Speaker 4: Matter before it went to trial.
37:43
Speaker 5: Judge Paul Toddell on Tuesday ruled miss Higgins should pay
37:46
Speaker 5: eighty percent of Miss Reynolds's bills from the former Liberal
37:50
Speaker 5: senator's successful defamation case, and found an early settlement offer
37:54
Speaker 5: tabled just four days before the trial was scheduled to begin,
37:57
Speaker 5: could not be considered reasonable. The offer included a mutual
38:01
Speaker 5: statement of regret that would have led to miss Reynolds
38:05
Speaker 5: acknowledging Miss Higgins believe she was not given appropriate support
38:09
Speaker 5: after being raped in parliament. Of course, Well that is
38:13
Speaker 5: for one. I mean, where to even begin with that?
38:16
Speaker 5: Great that Linda Reynolds is getting justice at last, Good
38:22
Speaker 5: that Brittany Higgins is having to pay for her legal costs.
38:26
Speaker 5: But ridiculous that she thought two hundred thousand dollars four
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Speaker 5: days before the trial was to begin, and requiring Linda
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Speaker 5: Reynolds to basically acknowledge she'd failed, that she ever thought
38:40
Speaker 5: that would be reasonable. Just she's living in Lalla Land.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, and the fact that you
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Speaker 3: even sort of offer to make a settlement doesn't speak
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Speaker 3: volumes for your confidence in your KSE succeeding, does it.
38:52
Speaker 3: But I can I cannot think of a single other issue,
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Speaker 3: a single other story, a single other sort of political
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Speaker 3: campaign that has a blown up so spectacularly and destroyed
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Speaker 3: so thoroughly pretty much every truth involved with it. And again,
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Speaker 3: I think the people who were the protagonists of this
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Speaker 3: really need to think about the sort of scorched earth
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Speaker 3: that now surveys, including themselves.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty extorting, it's pretty extorting, as my mate Richard
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Speaker 2: texted me earlier this evening today, Richard, if you watch it,
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Speaker 2: actually know he wouldn't be watching because he's in mainland
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Speaker 2: China at the moment, so I'm imagining. But as he
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Speaker 2: as he texted to me, the government giveth and Linda taketh.
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Speaker 5: Away well, and that's very good. She is also in
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Speaker 5: the Australian Tomorrow Stolen Land preschool lessons, Victorian children as
39:48
Speaker 5: young as four will learn the state's history from the
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Speaker 5: eurok Justice Commission's Truth Be Told report, which says European
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Speaker 5: settlement was an illegal invasion marked by calculated acts of terror,
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Speaker 5: designed to clear the land for settler occupation, and brought
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Speaker 5: Aboriginal people to the brink through a concerted campaign of massacres,
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Speaker 5: violence and new diseases. The treaty Bill introduced it to
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Speaker 5: the Victorian Parliament on Tuesday, mandates the use of the
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Speaker 5: eurok Justice Commission Official public record as a resource to
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Speaker 5: support the implementation of truth telling in the Victorian curriculum
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Speaker 5: for children from foundation the year a child begins preschool
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Speaker 5: to year ten.
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Speaker 4: That is insane.
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Speaker 5: I mean, firstly, how slanted, one sided and biased is that?
40:42
Speaker 5: But secondly, to teach that to children as young as
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Speaker 5: four years old, and to mandate that be taught as
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Speaker 5: like the Bible of Australian history is just insane.
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Speaker 2: So this report says, we walk on stolen land, a
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Speaker 2: truth etched into the soil, in the rivers that have
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Speaker 2: carried stories of people for a millennia, and in the
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Speaker 2: skies that will have witnessed it. All the scars of
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Speaker 2: colonial invasion, it's massacres, violence and relentless erasure are not
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Speaker 2: confined to the past. They reside in the present, shaping
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Speaker 2: the lives of first people's into Victoria. Tokay, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a bloody tissue box here. Oh God,
41:24
Speaker 2: spim and kids are basically now going to be told
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Speaker 2: that we're a terrorist nation.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the whole point with history is you
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Speaker 3: have to be able to understand it. You have to
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Speaker 3: understand you know, the forces behind it, and we do
41:36
Speaker 3: have to acknowledge all the terrible things that happen, but
41:38
Speaker 3: you have to be able to do that in context.
41:41
Speaker 3: If you're talking about kids, you know, preschools or kindy
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Speaker 3: kids that young, that's not history, that's just propaganda. Yes,
41:49
Speaker 3: it's kind of anyway, onto my two great loves next
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Speaker 3: the Daily Telegraph and Premier Chris Mins.
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Speaker 1: Where does your life fit into that?
41:58
Speaker 3: Actually somewhere in the top ten. This is the big
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Speaker 3: We touched on it, I think last night on the show.
42:05
Speaker 3: But this is the big turnaround, and I suspect that
42:08
Speaker 3: Chris Means is actually very happy to be able to
42:12
Speaker 3: do this. But this is Mens's decision. He's going to
42:16
Speaker 3: scrap the shark net removal trial that was due to
42:20
Speaker 3: start this summer at three Sydney beaches after the horrendous
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Speaker 3: fatal attack off d Y and the headline, which you
42:29
Speaker 3: have to agree no matter where you stand on this issue,
42:32
Speaker 3: is an amazing headline, nothing but net. That's right. Min's
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Speaker 3: scrap shark mesh removal trial. Swimmers in Sydney and the
42:39
Speaker 3: Central Coast will breathe a little easier this summer. With
42:42
Speaker 3: Premier Chris Means finally scrapping a controversial trial to remove
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Speaker 3: shark nets. Mister Mins confirmed yesterday he would not wait
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Speaker 3: for a report into the death on Saturday of surfer
42:52
Speaker 3: Mercury Selacis and to make the call on the net
42:56
Speaker 3: removal trial, instead ruling immediately to axit. This summer. It
43:01
Speaker 3: comes of mister Slakas's family opened up on their devastations. Again,
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Speaker 3: Premier Chris means strong, decisive, swift action.
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Speaker 2: Look, it is the correct decision, but you forget that
43:15
Speaker 2: they were going to do this previously. That I know
43:18
Speaker 2: it's respond wanted to do it and then. But it's
43:22
Speaker 2: also a real shame that it took someone dying to
43:27
Speaker 2: get to this point where we say, oh, actually we're
43:29
Speaker 2: not going to get rid of the shacklets. Let's move
43:30
Speaker 2: on to the Advertiser tomorrow, one of my grand clubs,
43:34
Speaker 2: of course, where I started my.
43:35
Speaker 1: Career and we got back to our alma mater. Let's right,
43:38
Speaker 1: you can read my column every Friday. I hope you do.
43:41
Speaker 2: But extraordinary story, exclusive story. Camp fear is the headline.
43:46
Speaker 2: Anxious kids around the country are rather refusing to attend
43:49
Speaker 2: school camp or are calling their parents pleading with them
43:53
Speaker 2: to pick them up early. Parents no longer supported children
43:57
Speaker 2: to manage discomfort, Australian Primary Print's Association president Angela Falkenberg said,
44:03
Speaker 2: which led to students missing camp. I mean, how we
44:08
Speaker 2: got to the point where kids are that anxious and
44:11
Speaker 2: worried that they can't spend a few days away from
44:14
Speaker 2: mummy and daddy on school camp without dealing with anxiety.
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Speaker 4: Oh it's crazy.
44:21
Speaker 5: I mean, this is just going to be the most
44:23
Speaker 5: coddled generation in history to not be able to go
44:28
Speaker 5: to school camp, which is objectively fun.
44:31
Speaker 4: It's just hanging out if you have friends for a
44:33
Speaker 4: couple days. I don't get what's so scary about it.
44:36
Speaker 5: But it's just sad if that's the state of children
44:38
Speaker 5: in Australia. But in the Gold Coast Bulletin tomorrow, the
44:42
Speaker 5: headline is electric scott shock. E bike crashes skyrocketed by
44:48
Speaker 5: six hundred and fifty percent. The Gold Coast has experienced
44:52
Speaker 5: a massive spike in e byke presentations to Gold Coast
44:55
Speaker 5: University Hospital, with four people dying from crashes in two
44:59
Speaker 5: years in neuroport warns. Data from the hospital's emergency department
45:03
Speaker 5: shows two fatalities occurred in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 4: Four and another two in twenty twenty five.
45:07
Speaker 5: Wow, six hundred and fifty percent rise in e bike crashes.
45:11
Speaker 5: I mean they do go fast and if you've got
45:14
Speaker 5: drunken people on the Gold Coast on them, it's the
45:16
Speaker 5: recipe of a design.
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Speaker 3: No drunk people on the Gold coast. Where are you
45:20
Speaker 3: getting that? Yeah, never heard of I thought it was
45:22
Speaker 3: a dry area.
45:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look I must note six hundred and fifty
45:26
Speaker 2: percent increase. Yes, but I mean car crashes increase significantly
45:31
Speaker 2: after the model T forward was invented, right because you
45:34
Speaker 2: suddenly had cars on a mass production scale. E bikes
45:38
Speaker 2: have become a lot more common and a lot cheapest,
45:40
Speaker 2: a lot more people have them, so I think it
45:41
Speaker 2: probably checks out that there will be more accidents, crashes
45:45
Speaker 2: and death after the break. Don Lemon, of course, former
45:48
Speaker 2: CNN host, has been getting around doing stuff for his
45:50
Speaker 2: own sephe he puts online, He.
45:53
Speaker 1: Put a microphone and what he thought would be a
45:56
Speaker 1: fans nose, I wasn't a fan. He'll show you the
45:59
Speaker 1: flow up.
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Speaker 7: Now.
46:05
Speaker 2: If you weren't watching Media Watch last night, which you
46:07
Speaker 2: weren't because you would have been watching Paul Murray live
46:09
Speaker 2: here on Sky News Australia, I.
46:11
Speaker 1: Got a little bit of a tickle up.
46:12
Speaker 2: They were talking about the story we did last week,
46:16
Speaker 2: which was based on a poll out of the UK,
46:19
Speaker 2: which was a bit rubbery, but we treated it with
46:21
Speaker 2: the reverence it deserved, which was pretty lighthearted. Saying that
46:26
Speaker 2: to jin Z was too afraid to fill up their cars.
46:28
Speaker 2: We threw some jokes around about that media Watch saw
46:31
Speaker 2: fit to have her go about it last night, But
46:34
Speaker 2: what caught my attention was the most interesting description that
46:38
Speaker 2: Linton Besser, the host of Media Watch, gave for yours truly.
46:44
Speaker 3: Over on Sky.
46:45
Speaker 8: The Benjamin Button of Late Night TV thought it worth
46:48
Speaker 8: his time too.
46:50
Speaker 2: They are worried about pulling into the servo and taking
46:54
Speaker 2: off the fuel cap and pulling the nozzle out of
46:56
Speaker 2: the bowser and putting it in the car and fuel
47:00
Speaker 2: in their.
47:00
Speaker 8: Car, with fellow traveler Freyer Leitch revealing that petrol plague
47:05
Speaker 8: had broken containment lines.
47:08
Speaker 4: But it's not just young people, it's everyone.
47:09
Speaker 5: There is an epidemic of fuel anxiety in the Western world.
47:15
Speaker 2: There you go, Hey, look, Benjamin Button Bond. The only
47:18
Speaker 2: thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
47:20
Speaker 2: And I will not out of fairness that mister Pesser
47:24
Speaker 2: did call me up on Friday and asked.
47:27
Speaker 1: If I would be offended if he used that.
47:29
Speaker 3: Line extremely courteous testing out his material.
47:33
Speaker 2: I know, and I said it was the least worst
47:34
Speaker 2: thing I'd been called in the last four round.
47:36
Speaker 5: But Benjamin Button started old and gets young. Yeah, you
47:40
Speaker 5: started old and just getting older.
47:42
Speaker 1: I think.
47:45
Speaker 3: He gets older and older and older, but the face to.
47:46
Speaker 4: Stays the face the same. But let's move on now.
47:50
Speaker 5: Don Lemon, former CNN host, took to the streets.
47:53
Speaker 4: Thought he would be treated like a celebrity.
47:55
Speaker 5: While going out and doing vox pops. Well, it didn't
47:58
Speaker 5: quite go as planned.
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Speaker 3: Doing sir, can we talk to you?
48:02
Speaker 1: Where you're from?
48:04
Speaker 7: You live in New York?
48:04
Speaker 2: Who are you done? Lemon?
48:06
Speaker 3: You're thank you?
48:08
Speaker 1: So are you?
48:08
Speaker 5: Yeah?
48:09
Speaker 3: That's nice to say, except you've never heard anything I've
48:12
Speaker 3: had to say, and I've heard a whole bunch of
48:14
Speaker 3: what you.
48:14
Speaker 1: I'm glad you watched me.
48:15
Speaker 3: No, I don't why but.
48:17
Speaker 7: You just get clipped everywhere I know?
48:19
Speaker 1: But why don't you?
48:20
Speaker 3: You said you don't watch me?
48:21
Speaker 7: But you yet you know who I am?
48:22
Speaker 2: And I got before I realized Ann and MSNBC with
48:26
Speaker 2: fullish every once in a while, like what do you watching?
48:29
Speaker 1: I watch all sorts of stuff?
48:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, but why do you say, see an an MSNBC
48:33
Speaker 3: at foolish?
48:34
Speaker 7: Because we look?
48:35
Speaker 3: How about what specific? What's everything?
48:37
Speaker 7: Everything?
48:39
Speaker 5: Finally, someone calling him out, he's so insufferable. I bet
48:43
Speaker 5: he was just like completely shocked that anyone could not
48:46
Speaker 5: like him.
48:46
Speaker 4: But good on that guy.
48:47
Speaker 3: He really is just incredibly insufferable. I just it's just anyway,
48:53
Speaker 3: I just don't do vox pops. Don That would be
48:55
Speaker 3: my advice. If you're you know, I've got millions of
48:57
Speaker 3: bucks in the bank, just don't do vox pops. And
49:00
Speaker 3: now we've got a very interesting story that should really
49:04
Speaker 3: get you quaking in your boots, and I mean literally
49:06
Speaker 3: quaking in your boats, but boots, because there is a
49:10
Speaker 3: sound system in adelaide a stereo that is literally shaking
49:15
Speaker 3: a building so much it is breaking it.
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Speaker 7: Have a look.
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Speaker 2: Well that's a night out, isn't it. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: joining us tonight up next to Ritterpanicy Show