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- 0:07Speaker 1: Florida State University, Tallahassee, January the fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight,
- 0:14Speaker 1: around two forty five am, the serial killer on the
- 0:17Speaker 1: run broke into the chi Omega sorority house and attacked
- 0:21Speaker 1: four women.
- 0:23Speaker 2: The Spraye. He beats people. He knocks people's teeth out.
- 0:27Speaker 2: He bites the buttock of one of the victims.
- 0:31Speaker 1: The blistering attack on all four students lasted just fifteen minutes.
- 0:36Speaker 3: He could strike like a chameleon, pam and take his
- 0:41Speaker 3: prey in.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Just four years. In the mid nineteen seventies, a sadistic
- 0:46Speaker 1: killer kidnapped, raped, and murdered at least thirty young women.
- 0:51Speaker 1: A few lived to tell of their terrible audom.
- 0:55Speaker 4: We leaned in. I thought he was going to kiss me. Instead,
- 0:58Speaker 4: he said, I'm going to kill you.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Initially convicted of only kidnap and assault, it is suspected
- 1:06Speaker 1: that Bundy may have raped and slaughtered up to one
- 1:09Speaker 1: hundred young women. Sentenced to death for his terrifying crimes,
- 1:14Speaker 1: Ted Bundy is undoubtedly one of the world's most evil killers. Seattle, Washington.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Ted Bundy began his reign of terror in the Pacific
- 1:46Speaker 1: Northwest and spread it across seven US states. He would
- 1:50Speaker 1: eventually confess to the kidnap, rape, and murder of thirty
- 1:55Speaker 1: young women between nineteen seventy four and nineteen seventy eight.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Two of his victims were just twelve years old.
- 2:04Speaker 5: This is a man who killed and the most violent,
- 2:08Speaker 5: the most terrifying way.
- 2:10Speaker 6: He would before death, he.
- 2:12Speaker 5: Would break bones, he would rip parts of the body off.
- 2:15Speaker 5: He would keep parts of the body mutilated after he
- 2:19Speaker 5: did it. This is a person who ravaged his victims
- 2:22Speaker 5: intending to cause pain.
- 2:25Speaker 4: He was a monster because he just enjoyed killing. One
- 2:29Speaker 4: of his interviews, the interviewer asked him point blank. He said, Ted,
- 2:34Speaker 4: why did you kill? And Ted kind of raised one
- 2:37Speaker 4: eyebrown kind of smile and says to the like it.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Ronda Stapley was a college student in Salt Lake City, Utah,
- 2:45Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy four. She says she survived a vicious
- 2:49Speaker 1: attack by Bundy and was so traumatized she kept her
- 2:53Speaker 1: ordeal secrets for more than thirty years.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Nobody went out at night, nobody even walked to the
- 2:59Speaker 4: library alone. There was terror, in fear among women everywhere.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Ted Bundy was one of the most evil people in
- 3:06Speaker 4: the world.
- 3:07Speaker 1: When Bundy was finally caught in nineteen seventy eight. He
- 3:11Speaker 1: was incarcerated at the Leon County Jail in Florida. Sheriff
- 3:15Speaker 1: Ken Katsaris, who oversaw all the county's prisons, was charged
- 3:19Speaker 1: with keeping him behind bars.
- 3:22Speaker 3: He was evil, but you could not discern that even
- 3:28Speaker 3: if you knew he was evil. He came across as brilliant, charismatic, smart.
- 3:36Speaker 3: So you put together the evil with all of those
- 3:41Speaker 3: positive traits, and you have a very dangerous person.
- 3:46Speaker 1: This killer's story begins in nineteen forty six. Theodore Robert
- 3:51Speaker 1: Bundy was born on the twenty fourth of November at
- 3:55Speaker 1: the Elizabeth Lundhome for Unwed Mothers in Burlington, Vermont.
- 4:01Speaker 2: This was the nineteen forties in America that the ideal
- 4:05Speaker 2: nuclear family was mum and dad who were married, that
- 4:08Speaker 2: nice family unit where everything is very neat and very defined,
- 4:13Speaker 2: and people who were outside of that ideal really were stigmatized.
- 4:18Speaker 1: To avoid that judgment, Ted's twenty two year old mother, Eleanor,
- 4:23Speaker 1: moved back to her parents' home in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where
- 4:27Speaker 1: her parents bought up Ted as their own.
- 4:31Speaker 5: So the unusual part of his childhood is how he's raised.
- 4:35Speaker 5: He's adapted by his grandparents. He's raised alongside a person
- 4:39Speaker 5: who he has tald is.
- 4:41Speaker 6: His sister, but she wasn't.
- 4:42Speaker 2: She was actually his mother.
- 4:44Speaker 1: This arrangement went on for almost four years with Ted's
- 4:48Speaker 1: grandparents as his main careers.
- 4:50Speaker 2: His grandfather was quite a violent character, so that suggests
- 4:54Speaker 2: to me that very early on in his life he's
- 4:57Speaker 2: almost in a bit of a survival mode, not safe
- 5:00Speaker 2: within this home.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Just before his fourth birthday, Eleanor moved to Tacoma, Washington.
- 5:07Speaker 1: There she met and married Johnny Bundy in nineteen fifty one.
- 5:11Speaker 1: They formally adopted Ted when he was five years old.
- 5:14Speaker 1: The couple had four children together, but Ted reportedly didn't
- 5:18Speaker 1: form a close bond with his new family and still
- 5:21Speaker 1: believed his mother was his sister.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Ted Bundy is somebody who has always been really conscious
- 5:26Speaker 2: of his social class. He came from quite humble beginnings
- 5:29Speaker 2: that the family were quite poor, and he was really
- 5:33Speaker 2: quite aware of that and really quite embarrassed and shame
- 5:36Speaker 2: by it.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And exceptionally bright student. Ted Bundy enrolled in the University
- 5:41Speaker 1: of Washington in nineteen sixty six to study Chinese. Their
- 5:46Speaker 1: age twenty, he met and fell in love with a
- 5:49Speaker 1: woman called Stephanie.
- 5:50Speaker 5: This was his dream girl, This was the woman he
- 5:53Speaker 5: was going to marry. This is the woman to which
- 5:55Speaker 5: he was dedicated. It was romance in the real sense
- 5:58Speaker 5: that you could imagine it, but she's certainly dubbed him.
- 6:01Speaker 2: One of the reasons that she cited was that he
- 6:03Speaker 2: wasn't ambitious enough. And I think this would have really
- 6:06Speaker 2: hit ted Bundy quite hard because this feeds into his
- 6:09Speaker 2: anxieties around his social class and those feelings of unease
- 6:14Speaker 2: and those feelings of not being good enough. So what
- 6:17Speaker 2: we've got happening here is this resentment brewing.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Bundy dropped out of university in nineteen sixty eight. The
- 6:24Speaker 1: following year, he returned to the East Coast in what
- 6:27Speaker 1: he later described as a bid to understand his roots
- 6:31Speaker 1: whilst they're Bundy unearthed the family secret.
- 6:36Speaker 2: He discovers his true identity. He discovers that the woman
- 6:40Speaker 2: that he's considered to be his sister for his whole
- 6:42Speaker 2: life is actually his mother, and he discovers his birth certificate,
- 6:46Speaker 2: and the birth certificate says he's illegitimate.
- 6:50Speaker 6: The two most.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Important women to him his mother and his mother surrogate,
- 6:54Speaker 5: and the woman he wanted to marry. In essence, both
- 6:57Speaker 5: deny and abandon him. Eificance to him of that is
- 7:02Speaker 5: that women simply cannot be trusted.
- 7:05Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty nine, ages twenty two, Bundy returned to
- 7:09Speaker 1: the University of Washington and this time enrolled as a
- 7:13Speaker 1: psychology major. There, he met and started dating a single
- 7:17Speaker 1: mother called Elizabeth. Their turbulent relationship would last into the
- 7:22Speaker 1: mid nineteen seventies.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Women server a function for him. They provide a roof
- 7:28Speaker 2: over his head, meals on the table, sex, useful contacts
- 7:31Speaker 2: with other people, so he has got quite a parasitic lifestyle.
- 7:36Speaker 2: He will hook on to particular people and get from
- 7:38Speaker 2: them what he wants, and then he will just discard
- 7:41Speaker 2: them and move on.
- 7:43Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one, Bundy got a part time job
- 7:46Speaker 1: at Seattle's Suicide Hotline crisis Center.
- 7:50Speaker 2: What he's doing is he's performing the role of the
- 7:53Speaker 2: respectable middle class young man. He wants to be seen
- 7:57Speaker 2: to be helping other people. He wants to be seen
- 8:00Speaker 2: to be doing socially worthy things, and this also feeds
- 8:03Speaker 2: into to the work that he becomes involved in in
- 8:06Speaker 2: terms of political campaigning.
- 8:09Speaker 1: When Bundy graduated university, he joined the Republican governor's re
- 8:14Speaker 1: election campaign. Then, in September of nineteen seventy three, Bundy
- 8:19Speaker 1: was accepted into law school at the University of Puget
- 8:23Speaker 1: Sound in Tacoma, just thirty miles south of Seattle. Before
- 8:28Speaker 1: beginning the law course, he went on a trip to California.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Whilst there, he rekindled his relationship with his first love, Stephanie,
- 8:37Speaker 1: despite still dating Elizabeth.
- 8:41Speaker 5: All of a sudden, he's a different man. He's working
- 8:44Speaker 5: for the governor, he's town, he's successful, he looks like
- 8:47Speaker 5: he's good.
- 8:48Speaker 6: Enough for her.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Finally, Ted Bundy and Stephanie gets engaged and they plan
- 8:53Speaker 2: to get married. And Stephanie's very excited about this, but Ted,
- 8:56Speaker 2: very coldly just drops her.
- 8:59Speaker 5: Well, this was all about, was how far this man
- 9:02Speaker 5: would go for revenge, to have the kind of narcissistic
- 9:05Speaker 5: victory that he would not be her that rejected him
- 9:10Speaker 5: and then rejected her.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Sumarily, having taken back control by ending the relationship with Stephanie,
- 9:17Speaker 1: twenty seven year old Ted Bundy returned to Washington and
- 9:21Speaker 1: decided he needed to show womankind who was boss. Just
- 9:26Speaker 1: after midnight on January the fourth, nineteen seventy four, Bundy
- 9:30Speaker 1: broke into the basement apartment of an eighteen year old
- 9:33Speaker 1: dancer and university student.
- 9:37Speaker 2: She was at home asleep in her house one night
- 9:40Speaker 2: when Ted Bundy broke in and he beat her with
- 9:43Speaker 2: a metal pole and he raped her, and she was
- 9:46Speaker 2: in a really terrible state. Many people think this is
- 9:49Speaker 2: something that just kind of came out of the blue,
- 9:52Speaker 2: but I would say absolutely not, it didn't. I think
- 9:55Speaker 2: this was an attack that was built up to. We
- 9:58Speaker 2: offer fined with offenders behavior before they get to the
- 10:02Speaker 2: point of raping and attacking people. And in Ted Bundy's case,
- 10:06Speaker 2: this was voyeurism. So he had a history of peeping
- 10:09Speaker 2: through women's windows and watching them get undressed, and it's
- 10:13Speaker 2: something that gradually builds and it's not enough for him
- 10:16Speaker 2: and he ratchets at up to the next level.
- 10:19Speaker 1: The violent assault left the young woman unconscious for ten days.
- 10:24Speaker 7: She sustained injuries from the blows to the head that
- 10:27Speaker 7: will cause brain damage and brain swelling, and when he
- 10:32Speaker 7: sexually assaulted her with a metal bar that caused damage
- 10:35Speaker 7: to her internal organs, and she was left permanently altered
- 10:41Speaker 7: by those injuries.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Seattle, Washington, February nineteen seventy four. It was here that
- 10:48Speaker 1: twenty seven year old Ted Bundy attacked again and turned
- 10:52Speaker 1: from rapist to killer.
- 10:55Speaker 2: And it's no coincidence that she's a university student who
- 10:59Speaker 2: he sees as privileged, who he sees is undeserving, whereas
- 11:03Speaker 2: he's somebody who's really hard done by. And it is
- 11:06Speaker 2: that constant jealousy, that constant underlying feeling of shame, that
- 11:10Speaker 2: drives a lot of his violence.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Bundy's chosen target was a twenty one year old University
- 11:16Speaker 1: of Washington student called Linda. He broke into her room.
- 11:21Speaker 2: He very severely attacks her. He really does bash her
- 11:24Speaker 2: her skull when he carries out the assault on her.
- 11:28Speaker 2: She doesn't survive the attack.
- 11:31Speaker 1: That night, after he'd attacked and killed Linda, Bundy moved
- 11:36Speaker 1: her away from the campus. He dumbed her body in
- 11:39Speaker 1: the dense woods of Taylor Mountain Forest, a thirty minute
- 11:43Speaker 1: drive from the university.
- 11:45Speaker 2: It's very important that he maintains control over the victims
- 11:49Speaker 2: even after he's killed them, so he doesn't just leave
- 11:52Speaker 2: them where they are. He wants to be able to
- 11:54Speaker 2: know where they are. He wants to have control over them,
- 11:57Speaker 2: so he chooses a local beauty, Taylor Mountain. It's a
- 12:01Speaker 2: place that people generally go to enjoy, but for him,
- 12:05Speaker 2: it really is at a macabre dump site.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Linda's body was found a year later in nineteen seventy five.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Her death mark the start of a furious spate of
- 12:16Speaker 1: killings that this time, Bundy quit law school in Tacoma
- 12:20Speaker 1: after just six months. He returned to Washington not as
- 12:24Speaker 1: a student, but as a predator.
- 12:27Speaker 2: He would lure women over to his car, saying that
- 12:29Speaker 2: he needed their assistance with something, and he'd often be
- 12:33Speaker 2: wearing a sling to make it appear that he'd injured himself.
- 12:36Speaker 2: And he was good looking, he was charming, he was respectable.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Bundy's trademark VW. Beetle became his favorite method for abducting
- 12:45Speaker 1: women before taking them to a remote spot to attack them.
- 12:49Speaker 3: When he hit it was like a sharp grabbing its prey.
- 12:54Speaker 6: Bam.
- 12:56Speaker 7: He'd use a blunt object to bludgeon his victim, and
- 13:00Speaker 7: then he strangled them.
- 13:02Speaker 1: After eight aggravated murders of young women in the first
- 13:06Speaker 1: half of nineteen seventy four, a rate of more than
- 13:09Speaker 1: one a month, fear spread across the Pacific Northwest.
- 13:13Speaker 2: I think Ted Bundy enjoys the feelings of power. He
- 13:16Speaker 2: enjoys the feelings of control. So you start to see
- 13:20Speaker 2: the attacks get closer together because he's having to escalate
- 13:25Speaker 2: his offending to get that same feeling of power. You know,
- 13:28Speaker 2: with psychopaths light Ted Bundy, they're prone to boredom, so
- 13:32Speaker 2: they will start to mix it up a bit and
- 13:34Speaker 2: offend in different ways.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Then in the summer of that year, Bundy changed his
- 13:39Speaker 1: mo He now decided to attack in broad daylight. On
- 13:43Speaker 1: July the fourteenth, at Lake Sammamish State Park, just over
- 13:46Speaker 1: fifteen miles southeast of the University of Washington, Bundy attacked
- 13:51Speaker 1: two young women, twenty three year old Janis and nineteen
- 13:54Speaker 1: year old Denise. Denise was last seen entering a public
- 13:58Speaker 1: restroom in the past.
- 14:00Speaker 2: There are some witnesses to these crimes and that there's
- 14:03Speaker 2: one common denominator, and that seems to be a man
- 14:07Speaker 2: called Ted who drives a BW beetle, so that begins
- 14:11Speaker 2: to narrow the field a little.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Bundy later said that he kidnapped both women from the
- 14:19Speaker 1: state park within a few hours of each other. He
- 14:22Speaker 1: raped them and made one watch as he murdered the other.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Bundy disposed of their bodies in an area two miles away.
- 14:35Speaker 2: It's reported that Ted Bundy spent time with the bodies
- 14:38Speaker 2: of his victims, that he shampooed the hair of some
- 14:41Speaker 2: of them, that he painted their fingernails.
- 14:44Speaker 5: What his m always consists of is taking these two
- 14:48Speaker 5: facets of his personality, and he used one of them,
- 14:50Speaker 5: the intelligent, the charming, the carrying, the one that would.
- 14:54Speaker 6: Help wash the hero. He'd use that to seduce.
- 14:57Speaker 5: Them into his private presence. And then the monster, the face,
- 15:04Speaker 5: the face of rage, would come out and this would
- 15:08Speaker 5: plunder this woman asunder.
- 15:12Speaker 1: In September of nineteen seventy four, Bundy left Washington and
- 15:16Speaker 1: moved east to Salt Lake City. The twenty seven year
- 15:19Speaker 1: old had been accepted into law school again, this time
- 15:23Speaker 1: at the University of Utah. On the surface, he looked
- 15:27Speaker 1: like an ordinary student, but inside was a cunning serial killer.
- 15:33Speaker 4: He was not.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Your average person. He was bright, brilliant. He felt like
- 15:42Speaker 3: he was a chameleon in that he could disguise himself,
- 15:47Speaker 3: he could change his colors, and he could take advantage.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Bundy later claimed that he first killed in Utah on
- 15:56Speaker 1: October the second nineteen seventy four. The victim was just
- 16:00Speaker 1: sixteen years old, and her body was never found. Ronda Stapley,
- 16:05Speaker 1: a University of Utah pharmacy student, was waiting for a bus.
- 16:12Speaker 4: I had a dental appointment downtown, and while I was downtown,
- 16:15Speaker 4: I decided I would walk over to a city park.
- 16:17Speaker 4: And then my mouth started to become a numb from
- 16:19Speaker 4: the dental surgery, and I could tell that I needed
- 16:21Speaker 4: to go home to some aspirins pretty soon, so I
- 16:25Speaker 4: went over to where the bus stop was.
- 16:27Speaker 1: The bus did not show, but Ted Bundy did. He
- 16:30Speaker 1: pulled his VW Beetle up to the bus stop and
- 16:33Speaker 1: offered her a ride.
- 16:35Speaker 4: He was nicely dressed, handsome. He told me that he
- 16:38Speaker 4: was a last student, and I was feeling pretty lucky.
- 16:43Speaker 4: What college girl wouldn't want to meet a law student.
- 16:49Speaker 5: Unlike other serial killers, he did not target prostitutes, which
- 16:53Speaker 5: are easy victims. He targeted young, attractive, intelligent, often beautiful,
- 16:59Speaker 5: and successful women. This he could do because of his
- 17:02Speaker 5: intelligence that made him a unique threat and danger.
- 17:06Speaker 1: After a couple of blocks with Ronda in the car,
- 17:09Speaker 1: Bundy took a turn away from the university.
- 17:12Speaker 4: Very politely, He says, I hope you don't mind, but
- 17:15Speaker 4: I have a short errand run. And I said, I
- 17:17Speaker 4: thought you were taking me to the zoo and he
- 17:19Speaker 4: said no, I said near the zoo. And we kept
- 17:22Speaker 4: driving up that canyon and then down another canyon.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Bundy drove up into Big Cottonwood Canyon, just southeast of
- 17:30Speaker 1: the city.
- 17:31Speaker 4: At this point he stopped talking to me. He just
- 17:33Speaker 4: had both hands on steering wheel and was just driving.
- 17:37Speaker 1: As Bundy came to a corner, he slowed down.
- 17:40Speaker 4: In my mind, I thought that he is looking for
- 17:42Speaker 4: a place to pull over and park and make out,
- 17:44Speaker 4: and so in my mind, I'm trying to figure out
- 17:46Speaker 4: how do I get out of this situation without embarrassing
- 17:49Speaker 4: either of us.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Bundy pulled off the road and into a secluded picnic
- 17:54Speaker 1: area and parked the car.
- 17:56Speaker 4: And then he turned towards me and he leaned in
- 18:00Speaker 4: close to my face. I thought he was going to
- 18:02Speaker 4: kiss me. Instead, he said, do you know what, I'm
- 18:06Speaker 4: going to kill you? And he put his hands on
- 18:08Speaker 4: my throat and started squeezing.
- 18:11Speaker 1: She fell unconscious. When Ronda eventually woke up, she was
- 18:15Speaker 1: lying on the picnic table with Bandy on top of her.
- 18:19Speaker 4: He is sitting on my chest with all of his
- 18:21Speaker 4: weight on my chest and stomach, and I told him
- 18:24Speaker 4: get off. I can't breathe, and he says, stop struggling,
- 18:28Speaker 4: and I'll let you breathe. And so I helped still,
- 18:30Speaker 4: and he kind of rocked up onto his knee so
- 18:32Speaker 4: it took some of the pressure off. And then he
- 18:35Speaker 4: put his hand over my nose and mouth and cut
- 18:37Speaker 4: off my hair that way. And he would do that
- 18:40Speaker 4: until I would just go unconscious, and then he would
- 18:42Speaker 4: kind of bring me back. He liked watching me fade
- 18:47Speaker 4: in and out of consciousness.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Ronda had just one chance to save herself.
- 18:51Speaker 4: The last time. When I regained consciousness, I noticed that
- 18:56Speaker 4: he wasn't standing by me anymore. Pitt Kenyon was pitch
- 18:59Speaker 4: black with dark. There was a little light coming from
- 19:02Speaker 4: the dome light of the car because he had opened
- 19:04Speaker 4: the door to the Volkswagen. Was fiddling around with something
- 19:06Speaker 4: in the backseat. And I used that opportunity to just
- 19:10Speaker 4: run the opposite direction. I just jumped up and ran. Fortunately,
- 19:14Speaker 4: or just by pure luck or grace of God, or
- 19:18Speaker 4: intervention from above or something, I happened to fall into
- 19:22Speaker 4: the mountain river, which wasn't very deep, but it was
- 19:25Speaker 4: really really fast, and it swept me away. There was
- 19:29Speaker 4: water swirling around boulders and flowing over boulders, and of
- 19:33Speaker 4: course was smashing into those. And eventually I was able
- 19:36Speaker 4: to climb out and rearrange my clothes so I could
- 19:40Speaker 4: walk home. And that's what I did, is I just
- 19:45Speaker 4: walked home.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Roonda kept her attack by Bundy a secret for more
- 19:49Speaker 1: than thirty years.
- 19:50Speaker 4: I felt embarrassed and stupid and ashamed, and plus I
- 19:55Speaker 4: was religious LDS Mormon girl, and the teachings at that
- 19:59Speaker 4: time that if you have a choice of losing your
- 20:02Speaker 4: life or losing your virtue, it would be better for
- 20:07Speaker 4: you eternally if you last your life. So I decided
- 20:10Speaker 4: the best thing for me to do was just to
- 20:12Speaker 4: suck it up and pretend it never happened and go
- 20:15Speaker 4: on with my life.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Ronda's escape did not deter Bundy's murderer's plans. A few
- 20:21Speaker 1: weeks later, in November nineteen seventy four, Bundy was prowling
- 20:25Speaker 1: a mall in Murray, Utah, post as a police officer disguised,
- 20:30Speaker 1: he managed to entice an eighteen year old telephone operator
- 20:33Speaker 1: called Carol to get into his car. He planned on
- 20:37Speaker 1: raping and killing.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Her, and this goes wrong. It fails, she gets away.
- 20:43Speaker 1: During the struggle, Carol had managed to open the car
- 20:46Speaker 1: door and escape.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Ted Bundy is not the kind of guy who just
- 20:50Speaker 2: gives up and goes home. He's got his mind set
- 20:53Speaker 2: on it. He wants to get what he wants that night.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Now two of Bundy's victims had escaped death. The next
- 21:01Speaker 1: would not be so fortunate. On November the eighth, Bundy
- 21:05Speaker 1: kidnapped seventeen year old Deborah as she left a theater production.
- 21:10Speaker 1: She was on her way to pick up her brother.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Deborah was never seen again.
- 21:16Speaker 5: What happens with Bondi and many other serial killers. They
- 21:20Speaker 5: have to kill, They kill, they get a release. Sometimes
- 21:25Speaker 5: they get a little extra release by returning to the
- 21:28Speaker 5: corpse and having a small dose of the arousal, which
- 21:33Speaker 5: they can live through by toying with their trophies and
- 21:36Speaker 5: toying with the corpse itself, and then they have a
- 21:39Speaker 5: rest period.
- 21:41Speaker 1: All the time twenty seven year old Bundy had been killing,
- 21:44Speaker 1: he was still seeing his long term girlfriend Elizabeth in Seattle.
- 21:49Speaker 1: In the autumn of nineteen seventy four. He also got
- 21:52Speaker 1: involved with Carol, a single mother and a divorcee.
- 21:56Speaker 2: He presented as completely normal, and so many people were
- 22:00Speaker 2: taken in by him.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Ted Bundy had yet to appear on the police radar
- 22:05Speaker 1: as a suspect, but thanks to eight eye witnesses who
- 22:09Speaker 1: saw him in July of nineteen seventy four at Lake Sammamish,
- 22:13Speaker 1: the Washington State Police were on the lookout for a
- 22:16Speaker 1: man who'd introduced himself as Ted and was driving a
- 22:20Speaker 1: Tan VW Beetle.
- 22:23Speaker 2: This guy has reported to me, nice looking in his twenties,
- 22:27Speaker 2: just at an average college guy. He doesn't look like
- 22:30Speaker 2: a monster, and nobody thinks that a serial killer looks
- 22:33Speaker 2: like this.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Police issued a composite sketch based on the descriptions they had.
- 22:39Speaker 1: It was broadcast on national television and was seen by Elizabeth.
- 22:44Speaker 1: She called the police. She gave them Bundy's details, as
- 22:48Speaker 1: well as those of his car, but the police dismissed
- 22:51Speaker 1: the tip because reportedly Bundy was a clean cut law student.
- 22:57Speaker 1: A year later, the twenty eight year old headed cross country.
- 23:02Speaker 1: He raped and killed three young women in Colorado. In May,
- 23:06Speaker 1: he assaulted a twelve year old child she'd been abducted
- 23:09Speaker 1: from her Junior High School in Pocatello, Idaho.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Here we've got Ted Bundy seeing an opportunity and actually
- 23:20Speaker 2: seizing it with not too much regard to the risk.
- 23:23Speaker 2: And that's not really his previous mo o. He's used
- 23:27Speaker 2: that charm before, but this is quite disorganized and this
- 23:30Speaker 2: is something that will lead to his downfall.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Bundy had got away with multiple murders and despite a
- 23:36Speaker 1: sketch of him in circulation, had not been identified by police.
- 23:40Speaker 1: In June nineteen seventy five, he returned to Utah and
- 23:43Speaker 1: killed a fifteen year old girl in Provo. Two months later,
- 23:47Speaker 1: Bundy was driving erratically through a Salt Lake City suburb
- 23:51Speaker 1: in his tan VW Beetle when he was spotted by
- 23:54Speaker 1: a Utah Highway Patrol officer.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Ted Bundy is pulled over by a police officer who
- 24:00Speaker 2: notices that that the front passenger seat is missing, there's
- 24:03Speaker 2: an ice pick, there's a crowbar, there's a ski mask,
- 24:07Speaker 2: and all of this looks incredibly suspicious. But Ted Bundy,
- 24:10Speaker 2: being that the charming manipulator, has an explanation for all of.
- 24:14Speaker 1: This, suspicions were aroused, but the Utah police did not
- 24:18Speaker 1: have enough evidence to detain Bundy for anything to do
- 24:22Speaker 1: with the murders. Instead, three Utah detectives flew to Seattle,
- 24:27Speaker 1: where they met up with the Washington police. Together, they
- 24:30Speaker 1: interviewed Bundy's long term girlfriend, Elizabeth. She told them that
- 24:35Speaker 1: she'd found some strange items in the apartment a year earlier,
- 24:39Speaker 1: including a meat cleaver and a bag of women's clothing.
- 24:42Speaker 5: What happens over the course of the lives of serial
- 24:45Speaker 5: killers is the time it takes them to need another killing,
- 24:51Speaker 5: to need, if you will, another savage, evil meal gets
- 24:55Speaker 5: shorter and shorter and shorter. Their control gets less and
- 24:59Speaker 5: les less and less. The way they perpetrate their crimes
- 25:03Speaker 5: becomes wilder and more foolish.
- 25:05Speaker 1: With the FBI on his trail, Bundy sold his VW,
- 25:09Speaker 1: but it was found by police. Inside they discovered strands
- 25:13Speaker 1: of survivor Carol's hair and hairs from two other women.
- 25:18Speaker 1: On October the second, nineteen seventy five, detectives found Bundy
- 25:22Speaker 1: in Utah, arrested him, and put him in a lineup
- 25:27Speaker 1: their Carol positively identified him as her abductor.
- 25:33Speaker 2: This is where he's taken his eye off the ball.
- 25:36Speaker 2: This is where he started making mistakes. He's been so
- 25:38Speaker 2: driven by his wants and his desires that he stopped
- 25:42Speaker 2: to actually risk assess what he's doing.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Unable to find enough evidence to charge him with any murders,
- 25:48Speaker 1: Bundy only stood trial for Carol's aggravated kidnap and assault
- 25:54Speaker 1: on June the thirtieth, nineteen seventy six. Bundy was sentenced
- 25:58Speaker 1: to serve one to fifteen years and was eventually moved
- 26:02Speaker 1: to the Garfield County Jail in Colorado.
- 26:06Speaker 4: I felt relieved that he was arrested and wasn't a
- 26:09Speaker 4: thread on the street anymore.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Just as police were gathering enough evidence to charge him
- 26:14Speaker 1: with the murder of a twenty three year old woman
- 26:16Speaker 1: in snow, mass Bundy pulled a major surprise.
- 26:20Speaker 2: There's a preliminary hearing and Ted Bundy, being the incredibly
- 26:24Speaker 2: arrogance individual that he is, decides that he's going to
- 26:26Speaker 2: defend himself in courts.
- 26:29Speaker 5: Bundy was savvy about how the system operated. By being
- 26:34Speaker 5: his own lawyer. He had access to the law library
- 26:37Speaker 5: system of the jail and he was allowed to go there.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Notwithstanding that once you got access to the law library system,
- 26:44Speaker 5: you could go right out the window, which he did.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Bundy escaped and went on the run in Colorado. He
- 26:50Speaker 1: was caught six days later. A year later, he pulled
- 26:54Speaker 1: another surprise.
- 26:55Speaker 2: He's in his style and he notices that there's a
- 26:58Speaker 2: hole in the ceiling and one he manages it and
- 27:01Speaker 2: he gets through the hole and he comes out in
- 27:03Speaker 2: the apartment that belongs to the chief jailer, and he
- 27:06Speaker 2: literally walks out of the front door of the prison
- 27:09Speaker 2: and he's away again.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Free and on the loose. Bundy made his way to
- 27:14Speaker 1: the peaceful college town of Tallahassee in the Sunshine state
- 27:18Speaker 1: of Florida.
- 27:19Speaker 5: I suspect that when Bunny knows he's at the end
- 27:22Speaker 5: of his rope, he's been arrested enough times, had enough
- 27:25Speaker 5: interactions to realize that this story is going to come
- 27:29Speaker 5: to an end. So it's in Florida that he goes
- 27:32Speaker 5: on his rampage.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Around two forty five am on January the fifteenth, nineteen
- 27:38Speaker 1: seventy eight, Ted Bundy broke into the Caui Omega sorority house.
- 27:42Speaker 2: He's somebody who's familiar with college towns with college buildings,
- 27:46Speaker 2: so I think he knew that there were many women
- 27:48Speaker 2: in this house, and that was his intention all along.
- 27:51Speaker 5: Within fifteen minutes, he'd attacked four women, brutally cracking their skulls,
- 27:57Speaker 5: breaking their collar bones.
- 28:00Speaker 1: One year old Margaret was hit with a piece of
- 28:02Speaker 1: firewood and then strangled to death with her stockings. Twenty
- 28:06Speaker 1: year old Lisa was beaten, unconscious, raped and killed.
- 28:10Speaker 2: The attack is incredibly brutal, this rape. He beats people,
- 28:14Speaker 2: He knocks people's teeth out, He bites the buttock of
- 28:19Speaker 2: one of the victims.
- 28:20Speaker 5: The magnitude of the terror for the victim is as
- 28:24Speaker 5: intense as the magnitude of the rage by the perpetrator.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Two others were both severely beaten and assaulted. Miraculously, they
- 28:33Speaker 1: survived within the hour. The Sheriff of Leon County, Kencatsaris,
- 28:39Speaker 1: was called to the crime scene.
- 28:42Speaker 3: When I got there, I did check with the investigators.
- 28:45Speaker 3: They had secured the scene. We knew that we had
- 28:49Speaker 3: two who were obviously dead and two that they believed
- 28:56Speaker 3: may die. You could tell which one was first, You
- 29:00Speaker 3: could tell which one was second, third, and fourth, but
- 29:05Speaker 3: you could tell how much energy that he expended.
- 29:12Speaker 1: This was not the end of Bundy's activity.
- 29:15Speaker 3: That night, As I'm standing outside of the sorority house,
- 29:21Speaker 3: we get a call that there's strange noises coming from
- 29:25Speaker 3: a condo next door, and I sent an investigator immediately
- 29:30Speaker 3: because I said, six blocks away, could it be he's
- 29:34Speaker 3: doing it again, which only tells you he couldn't help himself.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Bundy had broken into another apartment where he savagely beat
- 29:45Speaker 1: another student.
- 29:47Speaker 3: She was in a pool of blood when my investigator
- 29:50Speaker 3: went in the condo or the apartment, and Bundy was
- 29:54Speaker 3: leaving out the back window, but she tended to the
- 29:57Speaker 3: injury at first.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Still free. A few weeks later, Bundy struck again, this
- 30:03Speaker 1: time in Lake City in northern Florida. His victim was
- 30:07Speaker 1: another little girl who was just twelve years old.
- 30:11Speaker 2: He is a prolific serial killer at this point in time.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Serial killing is his hobby, it's his vocation. It's something
- 30:18Speaker 2: that he feels that he's good at, and more so,
- 30:21Speaker 2: he's getting away with it. And when somebody's getting away
- 30:24Speaker 2: with it, they're certainly not going to stop, and if
- 30:27Speaker 2: anything they're offending is only going to get worse.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Bundy dumped the girl's brutalized body in woods, about thirty
- 30:34Speaker 1: miles west of Lake City. He then stole a car
- 30:38Speaker 1: and made his way west into the Florida Panhandle. Three
- 30:42Speaker 1: days later, on February the fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight, an
- 30:46Speaker 1: alert Pensacola police officer stopped America's most notorious serial killer
- 30:52Speaker 1: near the Alabama Stayed Line for driving suspiciously.
- 30:56Speaker 3: He just had a gut feeling that something might be wrong,
- 31:02Speaker 3: and of course it came out over his radio after
- 31:04Speaker 3: he called it in.
- 31:05Speaker 6: The vehicle had been stolen.
- 31:08Speaker 1: After a brief struggle in which the officer was forced
- 31:11Speaker 1: to fire a warning shot, Bundy was arrested. He was
- 31:15Speaker 1: taken to the Leon County Jail in Tallahassee, Florida.
- 31:20Speaker 3: I had him in custody for over two years in
- 31:23Speaker 3: my detention center.
- 31:25Speaker 6: My jail.
- 31:26Speaker 3: I had him so locked up that he wasn't going anywhere.
- 31:29Speaker 3: He not only was in a secure jail cell, but
- 31:33Speaker 3: I had him in a cell that we had lined
- 31:37Speaker 3: with armor plate steel in sheets that were welded in
- 31:44Speaker 3: terms of the seams, floor, walls, ceiling. There was no
- 31:51Speaker 3: light fixture that he could remove like he did in Colorado.
- 31:56Speaker 3: And then I put extra locks on the door, heavy
- 32:01Speaker 3: impenetrable locks in addition to the jail key law, and
- 32:06Speaker 3: they were in the hands of several people.
- 32:10Speaker 1: When she discovered that Bundy was arrested for murder, his partner, Elizabeth,
- 32:15Speaker 1: finally left him. At the same time, detectives in Washington
- 32:18Speaker 1: State tried to build their case against Bundy and prove
- 32:22Speaker 1: that he was a serial killer. Sherif Ken Gatsaris was
- 32:27Speaker 1: also doing some digging of his own.
- 32:30Speaker 3: I went to his cell one day, talking to him
- 32:33Speaker 3: through the port. I told him, I said, Ted, I
- 32:38Speaker 3: think I know what's going on with you. You've had
- 32:42Speaker 3: a problem with your mother because you were born out
- 32:46Speaker 3: of wedlaw.
- 32:48Speaker 6: She withheld who your father was. You've never forgiven.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Her, and that has a lot to do with what
- 32:57Speaker 3: you're doing in terms of taking it out on women.
- 33:01Speaker 6: He immediately.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Opened his eyes wide with anger. He wanted to kill.
- 33:08Speaker 3: He immediately started trashing his cell, throwing things about, and
- 33:14Speaker 3: he grabbed the shower rod, which was welded in place.
- 33:18Speaker 3: He ripped it from its position, which meant a lot of.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Power intellectually shed If Ken Knsaris was more than a
- 33:27Speaker 1: match for Bundy, he managed to go the serial killer
- 33:31Speaker 1: into a game changing revelation.
- 33:33Speaker 3: He would taunt me with Ken as he would refer
- 33:38Speaker 3: to me with that sarcastic twist of that name. Just
- 33:42Speaker 3: three letters, but he would say Ken, and then he
- 33:47Speaker 3: would say the evidence is there, you just can't find it.
- 33:51Speaker 3: And I thought, then I know what he's referring to.
- 33:55Speaker 3: He signed one of those bodies.
- 33:58Speaker 1: This was Ken's eureka moment.
- 34:00Speaker 8: He used his teeth and clamped hard twice to leave
- 34:08Speaker 8: a signature, and I realized we had a very deliberate
- 34:13Speaker 8: double bite impression double.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Meaning he bit down and then he came out and
- 34:21Speaker 3: bit again.
- 34:22Speaker 6: That was his signature.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Ken Katsaris was convinced that bike marks left on the
- 34:27Speaker 1: bodies of his victims were the smoking gun that would
- 34:30Speaker 1: show once and for all that Ted Bundy was indeed
- 34:34Speaker 1: America's most vicious serial killer. But to convict Bundy, the
- 34:38Speaker 1: Sheriff of Leon County needed to prove it.
- 34:44Speaker 3: When I viewed the two bodies of the young ladies
- 34:48Speaker 3: at the morgue on the slab, just barely twenty years
- 34:54Speaker 3: of age, I had a one month old little girl
- 34:58Speaker 3: at home, and I had a two year old daughter
- 35:01Speaker 3: at home, and I just kept flashing images that this
- 35:06Speaker 3: could be them. I made myself a promise in the morgue,
- 35:13Speaker 3: somebody's going to pay for this.
- 35:15Speaker 6: I will find this person.
- 35:18Speaker 1: During his regular interactions with Bundy, the sheriff realized that
- 35:22Speaker 1: in the Cai Omega Sorority house attack, Bundy had left
- 35:26Speaker 1: a bite mark on the left buttock of Lisa, one
- 35:29Speaker 1: of the victims.
- 35:31Speaker 3: I was teaching the forensics of homicide investigation, and I
- 35:36Speaker 3: was teaching the advanced concepts, so I knew that these
- 35:41Speaker 3: bites were going to be important.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Sheriff Kenkatsaris determined that if you could get an impression
- 35:47Speaker 1: of Bundy's bite, he might be able to match it
- 35:50Speaker 1: to the marks left on Lisa's body.
- 35:54Speaker 3: I needed an exemplar. I needed his teeth marks, and
- 36:01Speaker 3: that became I think it consumed me. How can I
- 36:06Speaker 3: get them?
- 36:07Speaker 1: The prison officers tried some novel techniques to get the
- 36:11Speaker 1: clean impression they needed for a comparison.
- 36:14Speaker 3: We gave him different kinds of fruit because we weren't
- 36:16Speaker 3: sure which one the core would leave the best bite impression,
- 36:20Speaker 3: and that inmate said, you're getting fruit. I don't get
- 36:25Speaker 3: any fruit, And I think he became suspicious that something
- 36:31Speaker 3: was going on with that, because he quit eating his fruit.
- 36:34Speaker 1: After that fruit tricks failed, the sheriff and his team
- 36:37Speaker 1: had a trailblazing brainwave.
- 36:39Speaker 6: Then it struck us. It just it hit.
- 36:46Speaker 3: What about a search warrant for his mouth?
- 36:49Speaker 6: We can just go serve it.
- 36:51Speaker 3: That would get the bite impression.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Ken decided to take Bundy to his own dentist.
- 36:57Speaker 3: I personally went to Ted Bundy's and I said, you're
- 37:01Speaker 3: coming with me.
- 37:03Speaker 6: I told him to put his brace on.
- 37:05Speaker 3: I had a special brace developed now called the Bundy Brace.
- 37:09Speaker 6: It was spring loaded.
- 37:11Speaker 3: So that when he would straighten out his leg, you
- 37:13Speaker 3: could hear that spring pop in the place. That way,
- 37:17Speaker 3: if he tried to run, he'd be running with one
- 37:19Speaker 3: stiff flay.
- 37:20Speaker 6: I told him to put his brace on.
- 37:23Speaker 1: Bundy reluctantly went with Ken to the dentist's.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Office, and I escorted him up the stairway because he
- 37:30Speaker 3: couldn't walk it very well with the brace. And then
- 37:34Speaker 3: the door opened and there stood three men with little
- 37:40Speaker 3: white smocks on and the dental chair behind them. And
- 37:44Speaker 3: he knew, he knew the jig was up. He knew,
- 37:51Speaker 3: and that's when I knew that he knew that the
- 37:53Speaker 3: bite marks were deliberate and they were put there for
- 37:56Speaker 3: a purpose.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Ken told Bundy that he had a warrant and they
- 38:00Speaker 1: were going to get a bite impression from him.
- 38:02Speaker 3: And I had the judge put in there that we
- 38:05Speaker 3: could use any and all force reasonably necessary. I showed
- 38:10Speaker 3: him the contraptions that they used post mortem to keep
- 38:14Speaker 3: the mouth open, and he looked at me. He sat
- 38:19Speaker 3: down in the dental chair, smiled and said, Ken, you
- 38:27Speaker 3: know I'm not a violent person.
- 38:29Speaker 6: Do what you need to do.
- 38:32Speaker 1: The bitemark impression that the sheriff obtained would prove vital,
- 38:36Speaker 1: improving that Bundy was in fact a killer. His trial
- 38:40Speaker 1: for the murder of the two students in the Cayomega
- 38:43Speaker 1: sorority house and the assault of three more young women
- 38:47Speaker 1: began in Miami on the twenty fifth of June nineteen
- 38:50Speaker 1: seventy nine. It would be the first national televised trial
- 38:55Speaker 1: in America.
- 38:56Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to Bradley because I haven't had
- 39:00Speaker 3: an opportunity to complete my research on insteatus of Florida law.
- 39:07Speaker 4: I was watching the trial on TV and I saw
- 39:09Speaker 4: how arrogant he was, and he wasn't in shackles. He
- 39:13Speaker 4: was dressed pretending to be his own liar, dressed like
- 39:15Speaker 4: a liar, smiling and flirting with the people in the audience,
- 39:21Speaker 4: just being mister charismatic, and that was kind of sickening.
- 39:26Speaker 1: On July the twenty fourth, nineteen seventy nine, the jury
- 39:30Speaker 1: convicted Ted Bundy on two counts of first degree murder
- 39:34Speaker 1: and three counts of attempted murder. He was given the
- 39:37Speaker 1: death sentence twice.
- 39:39Speaker 3: The only real evidence we had was the bite impression.
- 39:44Speaker 3: And obviously I felt good because I found that I
- 39:48Speaker 3: was conflicted. Yes, I understood that this was congratulations, but
- 39:54Speaker 3: it was no congratulations. These women had suffered. Some suffered
- 40:00Speaker 3: and live, thank God, others died. How do you celebrate?
- 40:06Speaker 1: Bundy would spend ten years on death row fighting his execution.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Ted Bundy exhausted every legal avenue he possibly could to
- 40:14Speaker 2: save himself from the death penalty, So the cost of
- 40:18Speaker 2: his trial and his appeals was around about nine million
- 40:20Speaker 2: US dollars, which was a lot of money at the time.
- 40:24Speaker 1: At the sentencing for the rape and murder of a
- 40:27Speaker 1: twelve year old girl in Lake City, Florida, Bundy represented
- 40:31Speaker 1: himself sensationally. He used the opportunity to propose to Carol.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Carol met Bundy in Seattle in nineteen seventy four. She
- 40:41Speaker 1: would profess his innocence until the eve of his execution.
- 40:46Speaker 1: She had a daughter in October of nineteen eighty two
- 40:49Speaker 1: and claimed that Bundy was the father serial killers.
- 40:53Speaker 5: They are intense, they are moving, and they are real,
- 40:56Speaker 5: and I think some women are excited about that. Some
- 41:00Speaker 5: women need that terror, that terror, that excitement, especially if
- 41:05Speaker 5: somehow they could be near the flame with about being
- 41:10Speaker 5: burned by its touch.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Over the ten years that Bundy was on death row,
- 41:14Speaker 1: he slowly confessed to thirty documented murders.
- 41:18Speaker 2: He has knowledge of murders that he's committed which the
- 41:21Speaker 2: authorities don't know about, and he's going to use that
- 41:24Speaker 2: to his full advantage. And he's going to drip feed
- 41:27Speaker 2: some of this information out bit by bit in order
- 41:30Speaker 2: to try and buy himself sometime.
- 41:33Speaker 1: As the appeals ran out and as the death sentence neared,
- 41:36Speaker 1: a macabre fascination with Bundy grew.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Just before his execution, we started to see this immense
- 41:43Speaker 2: media circus around the event. We started to see radio
- 41:47Speaker 2: shows playing the sound of frying bacon on air, and
- 41:51Speaker 2: they had a Bundy countdown. People had ted Bundy dances
- 41:55Speaker 2: and barbecues.
- 41:56Speaker 1: At seven sixteen am on January two, twenty fourth, nineteen
- 42:01Speaker 1: eighty nine, age forty two, Ted Bundy was finally executed.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Even when he was being walked to the electric chair,
- 42:10Speaker 2: he was shouting out names of victims right up until
- 42:13Speaker 2: the end. He's trying to buy himself more time. He's
- 42:16Speaker 2: trying to just gradually give away some of this knowledge
- 42:19Speaker 2: about his crimes.
- 42:20Speaker 5: It's a sad thing from a scientific point of view
- 42:23Speaker 5: that he would die without telling us or giving us
- 42:27Speaker 5: any hint about whether or not there was something in
- 42:31Speaker 5: his life that we don't know about that helps explain
- 42:35Speaker 5: his conduct.
- 42:36Speaker 4: I was not really happy, but kind of relieved. Normally
- 42:40Speaker 4: I don't very often agree with the death penalty, but
- 42:43Speaker 4: with humor, it was necessary.
- 42:45Speaker 2: So many people were taken in by him, despite the
- 42:47Speaker 2: fact he was leaving this trail of bodies behind him.
- 42:50Speaker 2: Monsters don't always look like monsters. Sometimes they look like
- 42:54Speaker 2: the guy next door.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Arguably America's most notorious murderer, Bundy was this aptively depraved.
- 43:01Speaker 1: He used his charms to kidnap, rape, and kill, by
- 43:04Speaker 1: some estimates, up to one hundred young women and girls,
- 43:08Speaker 1: making Ted Bundy one of the world's most evil killers.