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The Living Soul: From Mistaken Identity to Infinite Awareness · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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Is there anything that you would want to either reiterate or
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speak on before we close? Is there anything that you feel
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that needs to be said? I would say that just be open to
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this. Follow.
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Your heart is calling you home right now, right here, right
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now. I'm in this moment.
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And if this is spoken to you in any way, shape or form, or you
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can just sense the something here that I haven't quite
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grasped yet, listen to what your heart has to say about it.
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Not your mind, not your head, but your heart.
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Because the heart will lead you home.
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Because the heart never lies, never lies.
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Hey, I think it's the most beautiful being here on this
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podcast. I am so happy to have you on the
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show. Thank you for inviting me,
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Terry. I'm looking forward to the
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conversation and exploration. Yeah.
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I'd be like, thank you. And it's really interesting
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because my first love in the work that I do with doing your
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own acoustic programming, which means that I've become a little
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bit, I won't say a connoisseur quite how do you say fastidious
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with my words. And yet I'm really mindful of
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what I say with you because there is an essence.
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And for those of you who are about to get into listening to
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this, if you're in love, Hiccup, totally.
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If you are looking for your own inner bliss, you've been warmed
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by beliefs that have kept you stuck, you are not going to want
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to miss this because we've also got something really exciting
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lined up towards the end. So get yourself your favorite
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drink or sit down, relax and take it all in.
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So let's ask the first question before we go into your story or
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your beginnings of being in the Roman Catholic Church, which I
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feel is probably quite significant to your story.
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Where did you discover who am I really?
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When was that question brought about for you?
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It came about really in my meditative journey, the deeper I
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went into meditation. As the years went by and things
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started to open up for me, that inquiry really starting to
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emerge as a deep question and knowing that wasn't at that time
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sure where it was coming from, that there was more here to life
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than at that point that I'd realized.
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And I read a few things, not a lot.
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I watched a few videos again, a lot, but there was a recognition
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that there was something much deeper to be realized.
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And that was. So I began meditation in the
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year 2000. By 2009, I'd left my old world
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behind as a chartered civil engineer and director of a large
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business to follow what was a very strong spiritual calling,
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enough to be able to leave a you know, that that career behind,
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right at the top of the profession.
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That is amazing. Like you.
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So you just packed up and left behind all that engineering
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wisdom and everything you had because you discovered the
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essence. Yeah, I would say I discovered
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it at that point. There was a knowing that he was
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calling me and that calling couldn't be ignored any longer.
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I'd felt it about five years earlier and that by the 2009
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came, I thought I just cannot leave this any longer.
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I've got to follow where this is taking How?
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Can I get that? Because there there could be
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people out there that are not self actualised this moment of
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time that are searching or understanding that there is an
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essence that's far greater than surely what's happening in the
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world now. What does it feel like?
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Can you describe that calling? It was a knowing, an inner
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knowing, I would say. It was so strong that there was
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just clear that there was something much more profound,
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much deeper that was calling me that yes, all these worldly
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achievements were great. I've gone from the from being a
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working class background to being the top of the the top of
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the industry in the profession that was working in and all that
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was great. And that could have continued.
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But this calling this knowing was so strong that it felt like
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all of that was insignificant in comparison to it.
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It just wow. Yeah.
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Like that? Just paled into insignificance.
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A lot of people when they come into the show find, I suppose it
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depends on who you are. And I feel like we all, we all
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have a calling, an innate calling.
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And I believe that when we ignore that we do suffer as a
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result. I know for sure that I suffered.
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And I also am very stubborn. So being a very stubborn human
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being, I, it took me to get to a point.
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And you hear about it all the time where people come to the
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end of each other. Just to give an idea of what I'm
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talking about here, I remember doing a podcast with a a
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wonderful man only a few months ago, and he described a moment
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where he changed his whole world and his whole life and he was
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holding onto the a bridge and he was saying, who am I?
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And and then he went on to that road of discovery.
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Did you find that you were having those kind of moments
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when before you realized you came into your essence of
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yourself actualization? Yeah, that happened in phases
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really. There was the calling happened
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whilst I was still working and I'm knowing that I was going to
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eventually have to leave that world behind and the benefits
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that came with that financially. But then after leaving that
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world behind and also changing house, leaving a relationship
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behind, that was a big, that was the biggest part, probably
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definitely put out a doubt. And then post that, when I
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walked into that void, there were phases within that where
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there was a realization that things I've been holding on to
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as identities were going to have to be let go of and that were no
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longer true about me. And they all had to go.
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And there was there. It wasn't all necessarily a bed
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of roses in that, but I was crystal clear that letting go of
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them was fundamental to peace and this realization, yeah, that
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with. And so I dropped them.
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I dropped them. When you say you dropped them, I
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love this because I know there'd be a lot of people out there
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that are suffering in so many ways and all these bad habits.
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And, and we know that all those parts of us and our habits and
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all those elements of our life really come back to our beliefs
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and what we are saying to ourselves and what we're telling
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ourselves. So what does a person do to drop
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a lot of that stuff? Is it a decision?
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Is it just a division? Like that isn't an intention?
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Or is there a technique? Sure.
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There's an. I would say in my own
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experience, there were a number of phases to that.
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So one that I've still shared today is very important.
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What was pretty clear to me very early on as things started to
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open up was that actually, although this calling was there,
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I actually realized from within very early on that I actually
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didn't really know anything about this subject of self
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realization, non duality or enlightenment.
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I knew nothing about it. And there was a knowing that
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actually embracing that was fundamental.
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So I might have had until that point some things, but it was
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pretty clear to actually I really knew nothing about this
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subject and I was totally willing to be open to a new way
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of seeing things now. That was what drove the process
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underneath it, what there were phases within that that came
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along with things like learning meditation.
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I explored a number of complementary therapies which
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were hugely beneficial to me. Open helped open me up, but I
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also was made clear that I had to drop those even though I was
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very good at them and it had a beneficial effect on others.
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So they opened me up, helped me release a lot of emotional
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baggage, but driving it all was this willingness to embrace that
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I actually know nothing. And ultimately the dawning
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realization came that Philip wasn't in charge of this
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process. It wasn't Philip that was in
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charge, It was life itself, the infinite awareness, the infinite
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silence as I call it, or the infinite consciousness that was
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driving the process. And so the willingness to let go
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of Philip's idea of how they should manage that was also
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though, and ultimately, it's not so much, it's not a technique,
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it's not a a tool, it's not a strategy.
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It's opening to this awareness that this is what's going to
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ultimately bring the peace that you're looking for.
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And that's what eventually was realized, if you like.
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That is amazing. And I'm reflecting here on a
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couple of very vital things that you have said in this
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conversation so far and this self actualization, this the
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essence of where you are and I don't know, a human being rather
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than this human doing LED you from the place in the space
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where you gave up. Two very powerful and critical
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things that I've only heard about these two, but they seem
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to be pretty important thing. And that is an engineering
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lucrative position. And also you mentioned your
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marriage as well. I wasn't.
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A marriage. I wasn't a marriage.
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I was. A long term relationship.
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I wasn't actually married. Relationship, yeah, my, my
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apologies for that. But it obviously was
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significant. Yeah.
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And it was obviously a, a partnership, but you felt such a
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strong conviction within yourself.
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And obviously this is not like we're talking here.
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So where did the Roman Catholic Church start?
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And when you began to ask yourself questions such as if
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this is about 1 faith and the essence of what they were
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teaching, then what about everybody else?
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Can you go through that and express what was going on for
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you, where you kind of had that emotional moment?
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Yeah, so I was brought up a Catholic and, and so basically I
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went to Catholic school and one of the things that we were
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taught was that this was the one true faith.
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That was back in the 60s in Manchester in England.
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And it didn't really make any sense to me because I had
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friends that weren't Catholics. I knew there were lots of people
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in the world that weren't Catholics.
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And I thought it didn't make sense that this idea that this
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one religion could be the one true faith just didn't make any
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sense even to a young, young boy.
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And also what accentuated it quite a lot, I would say, is we
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had hiring Catholic families either side of us and further
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down the robot terraced houses. And that was the time the
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Troubles, the euphemistically entitled Troubles in Northern
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Ireland was really starting to get to their height.
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And this puzzled me because it was kind of like that was
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Catholic versus Protestant. And so there and there were
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Protestant people on our road. And I remember thinking, why are
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these people fighting and killing each other?
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What is the problem here? And I remember this thought.
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I called it a thought experiment at the time, but it's an
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awareness experiment. But it went like this.
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If two people were born in a hospital on the same day, same
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time, same sex, everything, one was born to a Catholic family
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and one was born to a Protestant family and they accidentally and
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horrifically got swamped. So the one that was supposed to
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be brought up Catholic was brought up Protestant and vice
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versa. Was it possible that in being
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brought up by a different family and horrific as the case might
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be for the would be for the families, that they would be
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conditioned into believing what their environment LED them to
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believe? If you we're against Catholics,
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we're against Protestants or whatever.
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And it seemed to me that this was around 10 or 11, that it was
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entirely possible. That's what could happen.
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Oh. Yeah.
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And by being brought up in that environment and it wasn't
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definitely going to happen, but it was probable that it could
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happen. Yeah.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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And and that that led me to reach the view then isn't this
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what's been happening for years, not just in Northern Ireland,
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but with the world in generally general, that people have been
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conditioned into certain ways of being and beliefs.
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I don't remember sharing that much with anybody, but I
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remember thinking that this, there's something here.
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And I remember many years later, just to complete the story, I
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saw an example of this come to life.
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And I'll just share this because I think it's important for
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people and listeners. Basically there were there was a
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Ro, a Family Guy, a lady from Germany and a guy from Trinidad
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and Tobago. I think he was of Jewish
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extraction. They've married, had twin boys.
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It's Oscar and Store and Jack youth.
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You can look them up and basically the parents separated
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within six months of them being born.
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And this was just as World War too was beginning to break out.
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Oscar was brought up in to Germany and Jack was brought up
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in Trinidad and Tobago. So he had a Jewish influence and
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his Oscar would had a Nazi Germany and Catholic influence.
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And basically they didn't meet again until after the war.
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And basically what Oscar said was that we believed everything
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the Nazis told us and disregarded the rest.
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And the sad part of that story was they could never completely
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meet with their beliefs. Later in life.
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They met on a number of occasions and they couldn't talk
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about things like religion, who was responsible for the war and
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so forth. They had what one of the wives,
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their wives called a love hate relationship.
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And so this was identical twins, and it was for me, it was the
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reinforcement of the thought experiment that I'd had as a
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child. It was like, wow, here it is in
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a really big way. Wow.
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So what I'm really hearing here is what's correct.
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You have been here. It really comes down to the
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belief system and environmentally that in quite
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huge. So if for another example, if a
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child grows up and they had the sliding doors, I've already ever
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seen that rude. But just to on one case
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scenario, they were brought up with loving parents and they
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were encouraged and they were led to believe that they were
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Walti. Let's just say for example, and
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they were treated like royalty. They were told they were
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royalty, they believed they were royalty and they began acting
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like the law royalty. And then on the other side of
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the coin, there was the sliding door.
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The other pathway with I was brought up by very unfortunate
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circumstances where there was no money, there was no love, there
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was no guidance and they were put down and there were
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influenced to obviously be thieves and stealing just to to
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make their life. It's interesting that their
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whole identity would be completely different just from
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what they were led to believe. So can you talk us through,
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Philip, because I know this is really your area of the
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conditioning identity and the human experience?
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Yeah. So basically what I mentioned as
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the realization dawned in two phases in 2011 and then fully in
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2014, what it became clear, crystal clear at that stage was
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that essentially what we've been conditioned into is what I call
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a case of mistaken identity. And that's essentially the
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belief that all you are is this body mind.
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I have this body mind experience.
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It's called Philip Terry there in Australia has that as well.
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But the realization was that yes, there is this experience
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and it's very important, but it's like a car.
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You might have a car, but you're not your car.
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And what we can crystal clear was that, yeah, this is how life
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experiences and through this body, mind, but there's
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something much deeper, much more profound.
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That is the energy of the universe behind it all, and
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that's what we are. And so it's the belief that all
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you are is the body. Mind is actually the one and
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only one and only block to this realization.
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Every other belief, every other block that people experience is
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just. It's a mathematical term.
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It's a subset. It's a function of 1 mistaken
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belief. Well, so we are not our culture,
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we are not our religion, we are not our sexuality, we are not
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our misgivings and values. We are the essence of what?
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So we basically the term I that came to me in the realization
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was is what we are, is infinite silence.
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That might not mean very much to people, so I'll express it a few
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other ways. Infinite awareness, that's not
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personal or infinite consciousness or source.
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We are one with that and yet we're expressed in infinite
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variety. So there's Phillip here in
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England, there's Terry there in Australia, and it doesn't mean
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that we're not diminishing that experience of being Terry or
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being Philip or being somebody in the USA or whatever.
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No, actually life wants to experience itself through your
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form. But it's deep invitation is to
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say, actually, although you have this experience of being Terry,
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what you're really here is to realize that which you truly
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are, and that is life's greatest gift unto itself.
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And that's the message that I share with the.
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World how liberating that is right there guys as we continue
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on in the show are you going to get to experience the essence of
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what Philip is really speaking about You will be able to find
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his details in the show notes so you can make contact.
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One of the things I was going to say is that there are so many
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people in the world I reckon the world's gone crazy actually
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former and they're in locked into these behaviours and all of
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these elements and So what you're speaking about is
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actually very liberal. So how do you, I shouldn't say
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how is not a great question, but what do you do to bring that
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person who's perhaps stuck in a trauma bond and they're they're
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all about the experience of what they've remembered, what their
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body has remembered and as a result what they believe.
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And this is causing shocking behaviours.
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Can you talk us through what you know a person can expect when
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they come into your presence around?
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Sure. I think the first thing to say
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there is that everybody is called to this, no matter what,
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no matter who you are. However, there's a kind of
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ripeness that needs to be there for you to open to this.
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And if different people are at different points on this journey
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from being deeply lost in trauma and suffering and this profound
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compassion for when somebody's in that situation through to
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things are starting to change and open up for me.
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So typically people will find what I share when this they get
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to a point, they're going, there must be more to life than this.
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And at that point, that's the point where for where I can help
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them guide them and say, look, there's something much deeper
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here. And the key to that is what I
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call recognizing the unchanging awareness or the infinite
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silence. And I can give them simple
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exercises of meditation stuff to help them to start to see the
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truth of that. Because it's not about believing
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what Philip says, not the fault, not in the slight, nothing to do
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with that. It's about making this
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experientially realizable for them.
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That first step is recognizing awareness.
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The other side of the coins of that.
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I sometimes put this on what's called a year Yang diagram.
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You've probably heard those words.
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So that's like the kind of one part of the diagram is
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recognizing that. The other part is a question
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exploring the question Who am I? And I asked all the questions as
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part of that Who am I without belief or before belief?
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Or who am I without knowledge or who am I without memory?
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These questions are very powerful and I tend to ask them
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in a meditative space. And when people first do them,
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they so they tend to identify with the body still.
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But as they open more and go deeper into it with practice,
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they start to get words like space, silence, stillness,
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awareness, presence. And these are indicators to the
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direct indicators to them that there's much more here.
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The other thing that could happen, and I've seen this a
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lot, it does happen whether it's online or in person, when
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somebody's really right and really wet ready, they can have
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massive spontaneous releases of trauma.
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And that's happened on many occasions.
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And it's, it can be quite scary to the untrained eye.
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But what it is, is a natural opening taking place of this
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held in, locked in energy being released from the body.
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So yeah, it can be quite profound.
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True, those questions that are so held what Philippines really
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describing in his essence of the art of stillness and asking
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those questions. So when I'm thinking about what
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if I forgot that, if a person's got a fear about, say, public
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speaking, what if you forgot that you ever had that fear?
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When, how would you be? So I do love the fact that
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you've proposed those questions to us and the aspect of finding
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that quietness and that presence and that awareness that seems
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effortless. But I can feel like all
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Physiology has changed since having this conversation with
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you. So it's powerful.
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And this is a blessing for people that are listening into
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the show. Through meditation, you
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obviously began to realize something quite extraordinary.
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And really it was where you've self actualized everything
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that's happened. It was observing the body and
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observing thoughts in the mind and just being with them.
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And I guess we're going to have got little experience very soon.
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So in the next few minutes, like stand by everyone.
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So what do you believe about the parts that we pick up through
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life, like the parts of anxiety and the parts of even depression
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or the parts of those valid habits?
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Do you feel that those can be completely dropped and released
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through the kind of essence of what you're teaching?
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The short answer to that is yes, they can.
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With that, unequivocally yes, that's entirely possible and
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that's why you're here. Depending upon where you are in
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that journey, it may be that you will need some other support
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beyond meditation. There are many great
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complementary therapies that could bring you to a more stable
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position such that you are ready to open to awareness.
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So if you're receiving support, medical guidance and so forth
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for that, then that's important for you to continue with that.
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But that that. But generally speaking, once
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you're in a more stable position, ultimately it's only
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going to be through the power of awareness, stillness, silence,
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that the ultimate transformation will take place.
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The others, not bad or wrong. In fact, they're very effective
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from direct experience, if there's ones that are resonant
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for you, but they're like what I call spiritual stepping stones.
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So you might use a particular technique or tool.
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For instance, what I looked at was something called emotional
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freedom techniques. Very effective, very powerful.
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But what was also made clear to me, there came a point where I
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needed to leave that behind. Now what I'm sharing here is a
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belief that I have about this. It's unknowing this, this
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awareness. It's.
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Unknowing. It becomes a crystal clear that
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it's infinite and it's infinitely powerful and it is
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which we are. And I think to change the word
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silence and awareness, and sometimes I'll say silence is
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the universal solvent. It can dissolve everything that
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you are not. But that will come when you're
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open and ready, ready for that, you know?
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My goodness, this is just goal. This is absolute goal.
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I want to. I just want to really before we
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begin the practice that you're going to take us through what
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you talked me through. We talked about the mistaken
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identification that you said something else to me backstage
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which alluded to this identification.
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Would you express that and obviously identity phrase a
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quite a huge role, Yes, right. So can you talk us through that?
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Yeah. So the belief that you, all you
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are is the body, mind will manifest in many different
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opportunities that will vary by place, birth, where you are, the
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conditions that you have brought up in and so forth.
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And from the university's perspective, none of those are
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wrong. They're not bad or wrong, but
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what they will lead to is suffering.
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And you don't need to believe me on that.
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That's what they will lead to because there are limitation
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upon that which you truly are. So self realization, self
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actualization, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it,
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non duality is the willingness to be.
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Actually, you're so much more than that.
31:44
And as that willingness opens you up from the inside, what
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will happen is those beliefs that you've had will dissolve.
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And that may be in profound energetic experiences.
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Quite often that will be the case and that can involve
32:00
emotional, massive emotional release.
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This might sound scary but it's not.
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It's been driven by awareness. It might involve shaking of the
32:10
body. There are many processes that
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can happen here that essentially it's a bit like being jet
32:18
washed. I sometimes call it from the
32:20
inside. All the grime that you're being
32:22
carrying and emotionally, energetically will be released
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and dissolved. And the more willing you are to
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face that, feel that, and trust the silence, the easier that
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journey is. Essentially, it will dissolve it
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all. It will dissolve it all.
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I feel like I'm experiencing a mini retreat right here.
32:50
This is just so much of that essence and we're going to hand
32:55
over to allowing you to anchor us into the now in any way you
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feel that I guess you are LED intuitively and the person
33:08
that's praying for you may be out there in a timeless space.
33:14
Who knows whether it's in five days, five hours or five years.
33:18
But I'd love for you to to just really embrace whatever that
33:24
essence is that you would like to anchor in with us, whether
33:29
through breath, sensation, sound, stillness, all of the
33:33
above. Can I hand over to you for that
33:36
now? Sure.
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So what I'd like to do is a little exercise with you that
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it's a very simple little exercise this and at one point
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I'm going to be ringing a singing bowl with this striker
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I've got here. But it's essentially it's a
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meditation. It can be short and sweet, but
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what it is about recognizing, being open to recognizing this
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awareness that I'm talking about and this awareness is not
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personal, is not personal. This is very important.
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So the way to to do this is just if you can do this, Terry, now
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if you want, any listeners can do this.
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They're not listening to it live.
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Just simply close your eyes. Now just simply close your eyes.
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And as you do that, just be open and accepting totally whatever's
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here now. So there may be emotions,
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feelings, sensations, thoughts. Just let all of those be there
35:08
without any judgement, totally accepting the fact that they're
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just simply here now. And it's a bit like you're
35:29
watching a movie from the inside.
35:35
All these phenomena are just happening, and you're the
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watcher, the neutral watcher of them.
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No judgement. They're just here and there's a
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presence watching. Now let me give you an example
36:11
of this in a moment. I'm going to tap the singing
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bowl. You'll hear a loud metallic
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shrill sound. Just watch that and just notice
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what happens. Just be aware of it
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and what happened. There was a brief, silent pause.
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I tapped the singing bowl gently.
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It reached a crescendo of sound. And then without any further
37:05
input, it faded to silence. And this presence, I'm talking
37:13
about, this awareness, noticed that and just it just happened.
37:24
The sound reached their peak and faded to silence.
37:29
Now let's say that was an emotion in your body.
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The sound of the singing bowl was an emotion.
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An emotion is here, it's just watched.
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And an emotion is energy in motion.
37:48
It's a vibration. That's all it is.
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And we're just going to allow ourselves to watch that emotion,
38:01
feel that emotion without any judgement about what it is, what
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type of emotion it might be. It's just being watched and what
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will happen naturally and effortlessly without any effort
38:24
on your part. Just like the singing bowl, if
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you just watched silently, effortlessly, without any
38:37
judgement over time, it may be a very quickly, or it may be a few
38:45
minutes, or it could be longer period than that.
38:50
It would just fade to silence because emotion is vibration and
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it will always return to silence and the awareness just notice
39:05
that process taking place. Just like the singing bowl
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reaching A crescendo and fading awareness.
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Silence is just observing this neutrally, effortlessly.
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And the same is true of all phenomena, by the way.
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And if we begin to open to this awareness, he's just here
39:38
watching silently, neutrally, non judge mentally.
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We can then go to the next step and ask the question inside.
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Is that awareness affected in any way by the emotion, the
40:12
feeling, the sensation, the sound of the singing bowl?
40:20
And even if you can't see that right now, eventually you will
40:26
realise that no, it's not affected.
40:30
It just watches. It's just aware, simply,
40:39
silently, effortlessly aware. And this, my friends, is the
40:51
essence of meditation. Wow, that was absolutely
41:04
sensational. And I believe that we can all
41:12
now be aware that we feel differently to when we first
41:18
began listening to this. And that's exactly what this is
41:22
all about. And I am so incredibly grateful
41:26
from the bottom of my heart that you have given me this
41:30
experience and the many thousands of people that it's
41:33
going to reach. And yes, and I just thank you,
41:37
Philip. And I do say, as I'd love to
41:40
always ask this question at the end of every show, is there
41:44
anything that you would want to either reiterate or speak on
41:51
before we Claude? Is there anything that you feel
41:55
that needs to be said? I would say that just be open to
42:05
this. Follow your heart is calling you
42:09
home right now, right here, right now.
42:15
I'm in this moment. And if this has spoken to you in
42:20
any way, shape or form, or you can just sense there's something
42:26
here that I haven't quite grasped yet, listen to what your
42:31
heart has to say about it. Not your mind, not your head,
42:35
but your heart. Because the heart will lead you
42:40
home. Because the heart never lies.
42:45
Never lies. Yeah, the head will make you
42:52
doubt it, question it. But the heart will feel
42:57
uplifting, inspired, expansive, often surprising.
43:05
This energy from the heart you control the doubter of the mind.
43:09
You cannot. It has nothing youth to say
43:12
about this. But the heart guide, yeah,
43:17
that's what I would say. Follow your heart.
43:20
That is so amazing. Phillip Wade, thank you so very
43:24
much for your time and the essence of what you've just
43:29
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