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Actress Rebekah Kennedy of Two Witches · Caught on the Mike...

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  SPEAKER_02: Disclaimer.
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  SPEAKER_02: My next guest is the native of XPA needs to be at started movies alongside the code space one and the wait to trade article for the spot to go such as 161 order at the end of any ex witches to the phone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Currently, you can add her as Marka, one of the lead characters in the great new horror movie two witches.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am pleased to say my friend, actress Rebecca Eddie, joins me on the show today.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've talked all things from horror movies onto acting roles and mindset.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait for you to get to know her.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, we know of the concept of Scream Queens, but what if you were to flip that concept on its head?
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you would call that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But regardless, I am very happy to be joined by my friend Rebecca Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is the star of Two Witches and a few other horror movies in the pipeline, as well as a lot of other stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to take a deep dive into everything and find out more about her.
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  SPEAKER_02: How are you today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_00: First off, super happy to be here.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am ready for the warm weather.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I tell you what, I'm in the Midwest.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if there's a such thing as spring and fall anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just winter and summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I absolutely hate it because I am, like I tell my wife, I am a pumpkin spice bitch.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love the fall.
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  unknown: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I say that because sorry, my uh allergies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, as I'm like shivering in my house.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_02: I gotcha.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, without any further ado, let's kind of set the table.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you introduce yourself and tell us a little bit of your origin story?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes, like you said, I'm Rebecca Kennedy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I always feel like it's so hard to uh concisely, you know, put put together a very long journey into a very short amount of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for anyone that doesn't know me, you know, I started um acting when I was 12 on the on the stage, um, did a lot of theater growing up, went to college for that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then after graduating college, I was still doing theater.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm from Dallas Fort Worth, uh, Texas, originally.
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  SPEAKER_00: I live in LA now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I, you know, had plans to move to New York, but I went back to Texas after college to kind of, you know, figure out what I was gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I started being like, I want to do film and TV, but I'm not really sure how to get into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I started talking to some friends, you know, anything I could, you know, just find and slowly got an agent that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then through a lot of you just trial and error and hard work, I um started booking.
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  SPEAKER_00: I booked um house hunting with uh Mark Singer and the great um late Art LaFleur who passed away recently.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and that was an amazing experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: I filmed that in Virginia, and that was kind of before that, I had just done, you know, short films and student films and mostly unpaid work, pretty much, you know, with some maybe making a little money here and there on some projects, but not a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that was my first uh lead in a feature film and another state.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that really kind of showed me like, oh my God, I do love this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I do want to do this because you know, you don't really know until you do it if this is gonna be for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I wrapped that and then went on to do Season of the Witch with Nicolas Cage, uh, Creature with Makod Brooks, um, booked my first um small television role in a film on a show called Memphis Beat that was on TNT with Jason Lee back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I um connected with a manager that had seen my work and he basically encouraged me to think about moving to LA.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I came to LA and you know, it was like, I'm gonna figure out if I like it here or if this is a place I want to live.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I came out for a couple months by myself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, my mom came with me, which was amazing because my husband had to work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so she was out out here for a couple months.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and I went back home and and I was like, we gotta move, we gotta move.
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  SPEAKER_00: So literally we packed up um my my gracious husband, we packed up and moved a month later.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, from yeah, to LA.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, he got a job out here um pretty quickly within a couple months, and we just hit the ground running.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, and and then since then I've um done, you know, I've done guest stars on uh criminal minds and law and order SVU Station 19 to name a few.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then like you said, just recently I'm starring in uh Two Witches, which is a really fun horror film.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh done some other horror films, uh, one called Bastard, um done some other uh kind of more thriller horror, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, Dark Foe, Limbo.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I did a really fun movie with uh Sons of Anarchies, David Labrava and Mark Boo Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: called Street Level.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then uh have some fun stuff coming up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's just kind of like a short, uh short of a long journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but kind of yeah, kind of where where I am now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you have a BA in musical theater from Palm Beach Atlantic University.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um musical theater, like what is your favorite musical?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, there's so many good musicals.
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  SPEAKER_00: So many good musicals.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna name two, they're kind of different.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love Rent.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, saw it on Broadway, um, saw the tour.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just um that that musical is the music is just um so brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then uh on the opposite end, we'll go with like Wicked, because I guess that's also just like the music is just um brilliant as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw that on Broadway uh with the original cast with I and Christian China with and my friend and I, Philip, we went to New York for like a week and we were just like sobbing the whole time, you know, like sobbing the whole musical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um Idina Manzel got a standing ovation after her third song, and I had never I'd never seen it like and not since not since as anyone as a whole audience stood up and clapped for someone like mid-musical.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that was just insane.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I would say I was expecting the wicked one, especially coming from somebody that starred in a movie called Two Witches.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it feels very cliche, but it is it is a great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, there's so many, so many great ones.
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  SPEAKER_00: We actually just went to Mean Girls recently um at the the touring national tour, and that was fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_00: If anyone is listening, that you know it comes through your city, definitely recommend it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was so funny and so well done.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, but yes, yes, I've always had this notion of being Jean Valjean in the back of my head from Le Miserab because that's that's my all time.
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  SPEAKER_02: If if I'm just like cruising in my car and I want to listen to something really different, I will throw on the Le Miserab soundtrack and yeah, that is a good like the 20th anniversary production of that was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's got a great recording.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when you went to school for that, did you go for more of um a production aspect or performance aspect?
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's performing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, like I said, I started doing theater when I was 12 and I started doing musicals.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, my first musical was Music Man, and then I did um Wizard of Oz and My Fair Lady, to name a few.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then, of course, in college we did um, you know, a bunch of different ones as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: But um growing up, I mean, to be honest, growing up, I planned on doing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that was my my love.
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  SPEAKER_00: My first love was um doing musical theater, um doing theater in general, straight plays.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um that was what I had planned.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I was planning to move to New York and and do all that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in call and you know, up until that point, um I had, you know, done all of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had done singing, dancing, acting.
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  SPEAKER_00: But until I got to college, I hadn't really dived into the acting part, you know, because um, not that you obviously you need to be a great actor to be in a musical, but there are not many that really have like the characters that are like super deep and dark, and you know, like lay Miz is one grade, but like a lot of them are require something different, you know, like uh a different kind of acting.
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it hadn't really um, you know, and when you're young, you're not um as a kid, you're not gonna take some like deep hard acting class.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, when you're when you're like 13, you're like, what do you what do you know about life?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um until I got to college, then I really discovered um I did a I did a play called The Diviners, and I really discovered how much I loved the acting aspect of it more so than anything else.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I still love singing and dancing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I haven't done it in years, I haven't been in a musical in years, and I haven't been on stage in since 2009.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's been a long time since I've done a play, but um yeah, I really discovered how much I loved the acting side, and so when I graduated, I really more focused on that, and then I have just really more focused on that since.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I can relate to that, totally can totally can relate to that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was uh all through high school, I was the theater guy and I was typecast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was always the villain, and maybe it's just my voice.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I always thought that that's what I was I got, several scholarships to several universities.
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  SPEAKER_02: I always thought that that's what I was gonna go to school for, but now I'm now I'm gonna flip your concept on on its head.
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  SPEAKER_02: I decided, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I really want to do this acting thing, so I did the music thing instead, started singing in rock bands, and then I just followed the musical path as opposed to the acting path.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I I really can relate with kind of finding your passion, a different passion halfway through that's parallel to what you're doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, because you never know.
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  SPEAKER_00: You never know until you're trying to do it if you actually love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and I still, I mean, I still love going to musicals.
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  SPEAKER_00: I still sob during them, even if it's not a sad scene.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I, you know, would never turn down an opportunity to be in something if if the right thing came along.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would love to eventually go back to theater and get back in a play or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, would absolutely love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, when you're doing it, um, you kind of find your your path and like what you really um love doing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and um, you know, as you saw in Two Witches, and if anyone is listening and sees it or sees my work in general, um, I do these very, you know, kind of dark, unique, um, and usual characters, and you just don't find that as much in theater.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yes, and I'm glad you set that up.
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  SPEAKER_02: You teed that off for me a little bit too well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
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  SPEAKER_02: But let's talk about two witches.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you explain to my listeners the whole premise of the film?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so two witches, to put it like very uh simply, is literally about two witches.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's set up into chapters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then there's so there's two chapters in an epilogue, and it's about um a young woman who I play named Masha, who inherits her grandmother's powers, who's also a witch when she dies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then so that's like to put it simply, to not get too complicated with the plot.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yes, so the first chapter um focuses on the grandmother and how uh she kind of gets her eye on this young couple who is um pregnant and makes the young woman go crazy, you know, stalks her, um, makes her lose her mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so then when in my chapter called Masha, when the grandmother dies, like I said, I inherit her powers and then kind of go crazy with them.
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  SPEAKER_02: The thing that I really loved about your character and something that you've done really well in that is you did a lot of physical acting as your character's journey kind of progressed in that second chapter that really told the story without needing to tell the story, if that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed that as an after effect of acting.
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  SPEAKER_02: How does that stay with you beyond the movie?
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  SPEAKER_00: You mean like the character is the character full?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like the character itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's interesting because we are setting up for a sequel.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I haven't, um I mean, obviously, like I've put her to bed for now, but it's gonna be, I haven't yet, um, this will be the first time that I've done done a character again later.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like you do the film, you do the project, and then you, you know, you you kind of say goodbye to them and then you move on.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this will be the first time that I'm like having to find her again, and but in a new new way, because she's a totally now, she's really gonna have come into her own and her powers and be really powerful and like especially so that's gonna be really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I have a really interesting ritual of because I get this uh question a lot about like, do these characters stick with you?
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  SPEAKER_00: How do you kind of put them aside?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they they are definitely there when I'm when I'm working.
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  SPEAKER_00: My husband, if I if I'm working um from home, as far as like if I am, you know, if it's filming in Los Angeles or someone local, my husband will say that like I am different when I'm working, like not working, but like when I come home and I don't see it, like it must be like a subconscious thing that I don't I'm not trying to be different, but he claims that I am subtly like off until I stop work, like stop the project.
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  SPEAKER_00: But which I find like really fascinating because I'm like, I would love to know like what am I doing that seems different.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can you record me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what is happening?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but after I wrap, yeah, I just, you know, I uh have a like I said, a beautiful ritual of just saying goodbye to them, you know, thanking them for their for their time, for their um wisdom, for what they have taught me as a person, as an as an actor, um, and and stretched me in ways that maybe I didn't know I could do.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then saying goodbye.
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  SPEAKER_00: It seems like super corny, but that's kind of the only way um I can let them go and like feel like I did them justice and um, you know, because little things will like residual stuff will stick with you for sure.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Especially, you know, I played uh Esther in SVU.
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  SPEAKER_00: I loved that character so much, and I only got to play for her for a week, but I feel like if if she hadn't died in the show, I at the end I would have, you know, happily played her for forever, like to see where her journey could have gone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so that one was especially difficult to um let go of because I felt like she was so special, and and then that it's hard, it's hard sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_02: With these darker, nuanced characters that you tend to play or that you're finding yourself playing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you find yourself becoming a bigger fan of the genre or like taking deeper dives into the genre as far as like character study goes, kind of paying attention to what other actors and actresses are are doing in their roles and borrowing influence in that light?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it was Tom Hanks who said, um, you're dope if you don't steal from everyone you know.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I and I love that um thought of like, okay, what can I take from from this?
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  SPEAKER_00: And not that you're doing an imitation of anything, but like my my acting teacher told this this great uh story of watching um a friend in a film, and and afterwards he was like, Oh, I loved this this one moment that you that you did.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and the friend was like, oh, that was my Meryl Streep and Sophie's choice.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like you would never know that, you know, it's like you're not doing an imitation of them, but you are um borrowing, borrowing something that um you know that is familiar to you or a person that you know, maybe that's like, oh, this character is that person that I know.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just just gonna play them, you know, that person is really interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I definitely am loving um the fact that horror has shifted in a way um that where we're getting these really amazing characters, not that we haven't had them, but that it's it's not just surface, it's not just the scream queen.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I put that in quotes, as far as like, oh, the woman that screams and cries and then like kills the bad guy, and that's it.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like there, there's such um beautiful characters being developed in in these films that um are heartbreaking and heart-wrenching and that you root for, but not just because they kill the bad guy, but because they have like these beautiful um deep arcs to them.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that is really fun, uh, fun to watch.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like um an example would just be like the I don't know if you've seen the black phone that came out with Yeah, I loved it.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Madeline McGraw, the the the sister, um I mean that scene where when she's confronting the the dad, the abusive father, was just like just heart-wrenching, and she was so brilliant in the in it, and it's like that's you know, the amazing kind of work you you can do in horror films.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like how how deep and like dark and um you can go with it, which was just incredible to see.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's so many performances like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and it, like I said, it's not new and that we haven't had, you know, Linda Blair and the Exorcist, and like all of those, you know, way back when, but it's just nice that there is like more and more of that happening um for actors to feel like um we're not just like running through the woods and and getting our clothes ripped off, and that's it, you know.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: The genre itself has had quite the evolution, to be honest and fully transparent.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: I've just come back to it myself within like the past two or three years.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like I have this treasure trove of all these movies that I've missed out on that I'm just now catching for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just from your perspective, and somebody that's in that field and in that genre, where do you feel that horror movies, where was their inflection point if you were to point one out in the past 20 years where the movies kind of turned and they became more character-driven than they were maybe previously?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'd have to like think about it or look back because it it feels kind of like there's always kind of an evolution going.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have, you know, like back in the day when you have like the Exorcist, you had the shining, you had all those amazing performances um that were done by brilliant actors at the time and and are still, you know, obviously still brilliant.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: But um, and then you kind of have a, you know, you have a way of a little bit of the slasher fun, fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you kind of get back into like um, you know, M.
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  SPEAKER_00: Night Shyamalan with like the sixth sense, like where you really kind of turned it on its head um and something we had never seen before, and you know, was nominated for Oscars.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that just like for a horror genre, it just doesn't happen, wish it happened more because there's definitely been performances since that have been worthy of being, you know, recognized in that in that capacity for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you know, you kind of have like the the the remakes a bit where people go back to the slashers and what people know, and and then you kind of get back where you have like hereditary and and things like that, that kind of again introduce something kind of new.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, yeah, I I I don't I'm not sure the exact pin point, but you have kind of like an interesting um, you know, because people think horror and and it's very cliche to them.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: But if you know, if you introduced movies that are, you know, actually really like um make you think and are on our deep on a deeper level and are like, you know, this is actually about postpartum depression, you know, and not not what it seems to be.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, and like Barbarian this year was so fun, and just like there's just it's great for the horror genre because now I feel like you don't know what you're gonna get.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's so many fun things being um directed and produced and put put in the theater that it's it's gonna be really fun to see what comes out next.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: I think you actually answered it without even realizing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: I was thinking about that as I was listening to you, and like if I were to pinpoint it, I would say it would be kind of the combination of the Sixth Sense and M Night Shyamalan, you know, coming out about the same time as the Blair Witch Project, the first Blair Witch project came out, and then you fast forward about two, three years later, the very first Saw movie came out.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and then it was almost like the it was less reliant upon jump scares and gimmicky characters, and more reliant upon the psychology of where a scare comes from.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how do you break that loop?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: And analyze that and make a good movie and craft a good movie around that.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the first Saw movie, especially, was terrible.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Terrible.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: I remember watching it with my roommate in college.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like, because you know, back then, I won't say how old I am, but um, back then there wasn't, I mean, obviously, like we had there wasn't as access to, you know, all of the trailers and all the stuff that's so easily accessible now.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't 100% sure sure that we knew what we were getting ourselves into.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like eating dinner and we're like, what?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: We had to like stop.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, this is why are we eating?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is probably not a good good choice to be doing during that the first one.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, it was it was totally new and something totally different.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: And like it's still in my, you know, I can still see the the scene when he wakes up and they're in the that room uh first, you know, first time uh still.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: So like those those movies that like just um kind of sear into your mind those those scenes um are you know unforgettable for sure.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then I love um the conjuring and all of those those um movies as well.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, like really um diving into like the psychological side of it um and based on you know, based in some truth, and like that's all just like terrifying.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean you've referenced The Exorcist a few times, and for me, that was the the first time I ever saw The Exorcist, I was 12 years old.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: I was reading the book simultaneously when I saw it.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm like halfway through the book, I'm like, okay, I'm finally gonna watch the movie, and just being who I was, where I was at that point in life, just the scenes, the the blasphemy, like halfway through it.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't matter what a person's uh religious affiliation is, your 12-year-old kid, you see something blasphemous that's just jarring and shocking like that.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: You're like you're tapping into a sense of fear that maybe you didn't even know you had.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: So you you fast forward that mindset to something like Saw, or even just like Barbarian, because that was a good reference to where there's a really good character study and how you almost become a character yourself in the audience, you know?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: And uh well, and you speaking of like my first horror film, um, I was 11 and it was the It miniseries.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh fantastic.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I convinced um at a birthday party, my friend, my good friend, still birthday party um to that, you know, we went to Blockbuster, as you do.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I convinced, I don't know why, we'd have to ask them why they let us um, I convinced the parents to let us rent it.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: And of course I scarred my friend for life, and I'm sure all of her friends that came, but I then I went home the next day and I was like, Mom, can we rent a movie at Blockbuster?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Okay.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, I knew you had something you wanted to like you were trying to find.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like it wasn't like, oh, we'll just go rent a movie.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like you had a specific movie.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I went and I wanted them to rent that one again because I felt like I couldn't fully watch it because the girls were like, you know, screaming and like acting like, you know, girls.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so we watched it again.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm almost like watching it, and she's like, What am I letting you watch?
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, obviously looking back, you know, it it was fine as far as like um there wasn't any, you know, nudity or anything like that in it.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: But um that was kind of my introduction in into into horror.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I like ever since then, I and my I get it from my dad's side of the family for sure.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, ever since then, I have just like loved it.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it's interesting.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: I never imagined when I was 11 that I would be actually acting in it.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been fun full circle.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, in context with the work that you do and some of the work that you've done, because you've made these unique characters, specifically Masha, do you feel that your sense of shock value has like depleted?
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're a little less surprised by things because of what you've had to immerse yourself into.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_02: Do you get scared as easy as you might have just a few years ago?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Probably not, no.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, unfortunately.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I I you know, Barbarian Barbarian was pleasantly surprising.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't necessarily scared in it, but I loved, I loved the first act, how it set up so well, and then it had a complete 180, and like then you're like a new character.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: And he, Justin Long was so brilliant, so brilliant in that role, so funny.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I mean, I wasn't like necessarily scared watching it, but I still I still loved it.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was fantastic.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I will find that like I if we're watching like a scary movie with like other people, they'll be like this, though, you know, like oh, and I'm just like like waiting.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: But I I sometimes do jump.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: If if I do, if I do jump, then it has done well because I'm definitely not one now that is easily um scared or uh yeah, yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm kind of in a similar sense.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's why I've leaned so much heavier towards the found footage genre, because that is probably the last thing that truly terrifies me, just because you don't know what's happening.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, going back to Barbarian, because I'm just gonna jump all over the place like an ADHD kid.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um but I when I was in the movie theater with my wife and we were watching that movie, I forgot that Justin Long was even in the movie, and the scene where it does do the 180, because I don't want to reveal it for people that haven't seen it.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think my wife and I even looked at each other and we're like, is this over already?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, like what just happened?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right, right, right, right, right.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, oh, okay.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: But what is the last great horror movie that you've watched?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to think of what I've seen recently.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, was it Barbarian, maybe?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm trying to think of like, oh, Megan.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: I did like Megan.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: You did?
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you've seen it.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't watched it yet.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Haven't watched it yet.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I did like it a lot.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I wasn't, again, I wasn't like scared necessarily, but I thought that it was like so brilliantly aware, a self-aware of like what it was making, and it was funny, and um the the acting was great, and um it just was such a flip on the Chucky type movie, which was really fun.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I mean I I really liked that one.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, like I mentioned Blackphone, which I really liked.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I read the short, the short uh by Joe Hill before we saw it, and I thought they did a brilliant job of like expanding the story, but also keeping it um to what he had written.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and also Ethan Hawk was just like terrifying and having a role like that um in a maybe ever, I don't know.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, he was really good in that.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's kind of funny because I think that's one of those movies where the trailer was a little bit misleading because you you almost think the last time I saw Ethan Hawk in that genre was the very first purge movie.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like for him to go from hero to villain was just just crazy to me.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, maybe it's just something internal.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I love Sinister, especially the first one.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um is just uh really chilling.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh was like a really chilling, chilling movie, especially when it was like revealed what was actually happening.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I thought it was brilliant.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so I think those are the some of the last ones that I get I can recall.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the scene at um I did like Fresh a lot.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you've seen that one.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_02: Have not seen that one yet.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: On Hulu with Shabastan Stan.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um oh shoot.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know which one.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I know which one you're talking about.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, I thought he was so great because obviously he always um is known as like also the hero, also the guy that you know you root for.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and then this obviously he's the villain, like that, you know, isn't a spoiler.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he but he was great.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was so uh like one that you love to hate, you know, so charming, and you're like, no, don't don't be that way.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Who are some actors, actresses that have influenced you along your journey?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny because a lot of the ones that I think about when when people ask me, like, who are your favorite actors or actresses?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, aren't necessarily necessarily in the horror genre, though like I love Tony Collette.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I think she's um brilliant and was like, I mean, stunning in the sixth sense, hereditary, like anything she does.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it's specifically if we're talking horror genre, um, those those movies.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she just that is the type of acting that I want, you know, to do in a in a horror.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I'm gonna accept a movie or a role in a horror film, I want to be able to bring that kind of, I mean, even if it's not that kind of crazy character, but just that kind of depth to it, that kind of um where you don't just sit back on your laurel laurels and and kind of uh sleep through it, you know, like, oh, I know what this is, it's a horror film, so I'll just kind of show up and do it and go home.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I've actually done the work on the character, which I admire in her so much.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um But I mean, I love, you know, it's like Meryl Streep.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if I could just meet her, like that would be enough, honestly.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't even know if I could do a scene with her because I probably would just be freaking out the whole time.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: But like, you know, Viola Davis, Jessica Chastain, um, which I loved her in um oh gosh, Mama.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was like trying to remember the the movie since we're talking uh horror, um, which I think they're making another one, like a sequel to that.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: Don't don't quote me on that.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh who else?
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, as far as like uh I mean, there's so there's so many Cape Blanchett, like there's just so many great, great actors.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, that just um that anytime you watch them, they're good, even if you don't love the movie itself.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they're always just um something different, you know, like you they're surprising.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I hope to be.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Have you had the opportunity to meet any of these heroes or any of the people that you've looked up to?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, not yet.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Not not any of those.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um not not yet.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um who who's a person that you've met that you've just been completely shocked by?
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um Nicolas Cage was great, uh, super nice guy.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um like I, you know, worked with him so long ago now, but um, you know, we were filming in Louisiana in the in August, so it was just awfully hot if anyone has ever been there.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, don't go in August, it's horrible.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: And we were wearing, you know, the 14th century like dresses, you know, outfits, and they were unforgiving.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, these these amazing um wardrobe designers were literally sewing these costumes.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were legit.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I had to have someone help me get in it and get out of it.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, you just stand there with your arms up and like someone comes and helps you get it off.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: But it was so hot, and it was like my first day on set, and um, it was my first big movie like that.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like I had not worked on like a$40 million, you know, budget movie, and I was so nervous.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: And um, he was just so kind and like, oh, you need me saying, like, make sure I had water, and that anything that would come by, he would just like pull it off the tray and like hand it to me.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: And um, he had to use this like big retractable sword um to kill me.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and every time he would ask if I was good, if I was okay, like if anything, you know, and he he didn't know me at all.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like and you know, he was the star of that movie.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: So um that that was pleasantly so not that I didn't think he was gonna be nice, but I thought he was extra nice considering um he didn't have to do any of that.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, I I worked with Counter Reeves and he he is just as everyone says, there is no he's so nice, you know, introduces himself, um, is kind, um, very low-key, chill, um, doesn't make a scene, kind of just disappears out the back, you know, kind of uh actor.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: So um everything anyone has said about him is is been very true.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's amazing.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: So is there a genre that you haven't done yet that you really want to do?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't done much comedy.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, not yet.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I um I'm scared because I mean comedy is so hard, but I would love um I've been doing a horror comedy coming up, but I don't know if my part's particularly funny.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, I haven't done much comedy, so that would be a challenge and would be fun and interesting to see um, you know, um where I would kind of fit in.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even sure exactly, but where I'd kind of fit into that world um would be fun.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I did a like a web series that was a comedy, but I haven't done like um like you know a full like feature or show or anything.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um I wonder if to prepare for comedy, if you just gotta sharpen the improv chops like none other.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think you know, for for me, um it would you would just really come in as as if it were a drama.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like my what coach always says, like, um, you know, you prepare as if you know, you can't think it's funny.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can't know that your character is funny or your lines are funny.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: You can't think they're funny because otherwise, if you think it, then the audience will not laugh because they know that you know that you're aware.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, you know, you prepare as if you're doing a dramatic role.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's like, right before you go, you just remind yourself it's a comedy.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I love it.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because then you're not putting the, you know, you've done all the work because things are only funny really when when characters are not aware of it and they're so like in it, right?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they're fully, you know, fully invested and they're not, you know, they're not hovering on the surface.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I thought that was an interesting way of looking at it.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think there's also like the the knack for ironic situational observations, right?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: Every everyday things, because you can find comedy in about everything if you just kind of push it over the top to a certain thing.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I love Jim Gaffigan.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because his comedy is just like everyday things that you are like, oh my god, yeah.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: For sure, for sure.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, what are some of the things that inspire you in life?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: People that don't give up, you know, when the when you when especially, I mean, especially now with uh with the internet and like how accessible it is, and with TikTok and Instagram and all of the social media things, um, you know, when you're scrolling through the reels or the TikToks, um, you know, inevitably, you know, you watch one or two and then you get the the algorithm sends you more and more.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I will find myself like on a Tuesday, randomly, like, you know, okay, I'll just check my whatever.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'm like weeping because I'm watching some video of some, you know, kid or person that has overcome something.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that like it seems silly, but but also that is a great reminder of how being grateful for what you do have, and then also that like things are hard, they may seem hard, but you can do it.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: You can you can keep going another day.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I mean, it just it's it's on my brain.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: My husband will be like, Are you crying?
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, shut up, like, stop.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm watching some like really sad, like, you know, video on some kid or whatever.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's like, I don't know this kid, but I feel, you know, I feel that that um that triumph for them, that the fact that people just overcome things that they shouldn't have to um is really, really inspiring to me.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um with the pandemic, it's been hard.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's been very isolating, it's been now it's getting back to normal, quote unquote.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: But um for a long time it was very difficult.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I know a lot of people are still struggling and still suffering from um financially or emotionally or physically of loss over the last three years.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that for me has been um an interesting, like silly, but silly, but also um a good reminder of what you what you do have and um how you can be inspired to uh not give up and keep and keep going no matter what you're doing, whether it be in the entertainment or something else.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's a very good observation.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the things you pointed out is something that we circle back to a lot on my show, is kind of the after effects of the pandemic, because now we're probably in our our recovery phase.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how do we deal with normal now?
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: We knew what normal was in December 2019, but what does normal look like moving forward February 2023?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the things you also kind of mentioned was like TikTok and uh the social media scrolling, and and sometimes it's great, and sometimes it can get the better of you.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but somebody with your occupation, like to find a silver lining of the pandemic, it has created extra layers of media for you to craft your art into, hasn't it, to some degree?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like streaming really became more exploited as a result of the pandemic, so there's more movies available on streaming, which is good news because it's more opportunities for actors and actresses to hone their craft and and execute those things.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, what are your feelings about what the future of your art form is?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean you got you brought up a great point because you know, only so many, only so many movies can go in the theater.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, the and it it costs so much money to put them in the theater that there's a reason that it can only be like really mostly, you know, the the high budget um films, unless you know you've got your you know outliers like Terrifier 2 that has made tons of money and was made for nothing, which is an incredible example of like what you can do with a low budget horror.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: But because of the streaming, you have this opportunity for people to see your work that maybe wouldn't have gotten to you know ordinarily.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: Or um because it's such because of the pandemic, because people were so used, are still used to sitting at home and watching uh things at home.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I still love going to the movies, but but we do watch a lot of things at home too, um that you know, people are used to it.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, yeah, your movies on where on Hulu, cool, I'll go watch it, or your movies on Amazon, like, cool, I'll go watch it.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas like before it might have been like more of a struggle to get people to like do that, even though it's like so accessible before it just wasn't like necessarily thought of before.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, so we didn't even do Zoom before the pandemic, like so I didn't, you know, and it's like now I get together with my college uh friends and we do a Zoom every so often.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that's like we could have been doing this for years after, but we didn't think about it until until you couldn't go out.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um so as far as the future goes, I think that will just open up, like you said, even more opportunities for actors um to be in movies, um, even with even higher budget that just go to streaming, even movies that have names um that just go to streaming, like you'll have the opportunity to work with actors um of that caliber, not just in the theater, but also you know, on Hulu, Netflix, Prime, wherever they, wherever the movie is released, um, which is great, which is great for for us, for um actors that are, you know, um have worked but are still, you know, obviously working their way up.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I think hopefully it'll just only be good.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, the streaming also is more and more shows too.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a little scary for network TV, not really sure where that's gonna go, but um, at least for the streaming platforms, there's more and more opportunities for actors on shows, which is great.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because before, obviously, we just had the networks and that was it, and there wasn't very many opportunities for people um that weren't um, you know, leading a pilot.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: So so now there is um there is that.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm hoping I'm hopeful that that will just be um, you know, it's been a little a little slow as far as the industry goes the last few years for obvious reasons.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm hope hopeful that um, you know, people are getting back into it and back into the game and back into um their projects that maybe got on hold are are now hopefully starting to to come to fruition.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: So as somebody that prides himself in being a nerd on pop culture and nostalgia, I gotta tell you how I kind of view it is very parallel.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: The mid-90s, there was this huge indie movie boom, and that's really that's really what made Quentin Tarantino, it's what made Kevin Smith, it's what made Richard Linkletter.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if if it wasn't for that boom of indie movies in the mid-90s, I don't know that we would have what we've had again, silver lining moment, as a result of the pandemic.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I think it's great for things like Two Witches and other independently made movies to have this platform and then to use utilize social media in tandem with that to build these projects up and build awareness of these projects.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you know, before the social before the social media, you know, if you put a movie on at Blockbuster or like whatever, straight to video, um, the only people that saw is if like if you had an advertisement on, you know, um billboards or a radio or TV.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, now, you know, and it's like a lot of indie movies can't afford that.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can't afford to put a billboard on, you know, in Los Angeles.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or do um trailers beyond like, you know, YouTube and all of those.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so with social media, it's like, you know, someone likes your movie and they and they have, you know, a ton of followers and they put it out there.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then like people are like, oh, I'm gonna go check that movie out.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: And they've never even heard of.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: So that, you know, it does have, you know, social media always has its downside.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: It has its um the dark hole of the abyss that you can fall into.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: But it also has a great, there also is a great platform of it to to network.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I've met, you know, filmmakers and producers and directors and other actors, obviously, online I would never have connected with if I didn't have that.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I um after two issues came out, a director watched it and then he reached out to me um and he was like, Let's meet for coffee, and we did, you know, like the next week.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so and now we're in collaborations to do something together.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like that is the the the bright spot, the inspirational side of it that you can connect with people that love the same thing that you love, um, and start, you know, a relationship of work of working, a working relationship.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: So um I think that all of that um it can be very toxic, but you just I just have to keep reminding my reminding myself when it does get okay, just put it down for a while.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, find find the the happy, find the inspiration again for it.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's fantastic.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: So, what is in the pipeline for you, young lady?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I have um three uh movies that are in uh post-production um that should hopefully be coming out this year, maybe next, depending.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, one is called The Veil that I filmed in Pennsylvania last March.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I play a young Amish woman um who has um I'm like, what am I allowed to say actually?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um who has led her home and is coming uh I'm like, I don't even know what I'm what I'm supposed to say here or what I'm allowed to say.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's a thriller mystery.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: I've I don't know what else to say about the plot.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: I just play Young Amish Woman because I don't want to spoil anything.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just realizing that like I could easily um spoil the movie, which would be bad, obviously.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: So um just put it that way that I have fled my home and um you'll see what happens when you see it.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um there goes that.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I had a fantastic time um working on it, and I'm really excited.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's gonna be a really special movie.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have another movie called The Unseen with uh Breaking Bad's RJ Middy that I filmed in Chicago last year, and he plays uh a lawyer who starts um seeing, basically seeing visions.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I cannot say anything about my character other than I play a young woman named Millie, um, who may or may not be from someone's past, and that's all I can say about her.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um they just announced international um distribution, so hopefully domestic will be coming soon and um all of those good things.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited, really excited for people to see it.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I have another uh sci-fi uh movie thriller called The Other Kind, um, where it's about uh people in a small town that start mysteriously disappearing.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that's really all I can say about that one.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's hard when it's like you do like thriller or mystery or horror, and you can't really ever say what it's about until it's out.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: So but a slate of three awesome sounding movies is not a bad place to be in life right now, is it?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm super, I'm super, super grateful.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's funny because you know, you you do these, you know, years prior, and then everything always kind of comes out at the same time.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes you look like you're really busy, which is great.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then I have some things coming up uh that haven't been announced yet, so I can't really say too much about them, but um, but yeah, and then um, like you said, Two Witches is out now for anyone that is interested in watching.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you can watch it on on Amazon, on iTunes, and Apple uh TV as well.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: So yes, and everybody please watch that movie.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: I enjoyed it.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: I found it through our mutual friend Joshua Sterling Bragg from Haunting Season.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_02: He pointed it out to me.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: I checked it out, so I've shared it with other people.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Rebecca, what is your advice for making the world a better place right now as you see it?
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it seems cliche, I guess, but be kind.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's it's especially now, it's so easy to get like frustrated and like level 10 really quickly with people.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um and obviously, like the saying goes, we don't know what someone else is going through.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: So try to give people grace and space uh for that, especially during this time.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um and you know, encourage others, encourage, encourage others.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm at a class, acting class right now, where we had to write out um 10 possible ways to work more this year, and one of mine um was um encouraging others and like celebrating their work.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's really important as an actor and just in the entertainment industry.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's really easy to get um into yourself and into your into your work and what you're working on, but I really try to um also you know focus on others' work and celebrate their work and putting that out there is really important.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that can um you know lift someone's spirits when they're feeling when they're feeling down.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: So those are some of the ways that I that I can make this world better.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love that.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: I love the fact that we've become friends through this whole social networking thing.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you so much for doing the show.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you so much, first of all, for watching the movie.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate it.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's a um, you know, fun little crazy uh indie.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so the fact that anyone is seeing it at all is just been um really great.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I really appreciate it.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and it just it just sounds like there's more goodness to come later down the line.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I I think we'll be paying attention, and I know my listeners are gonna be following and uh paying attention to everything you've got coming out moving forward.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much, and I look forward to coming back to talk about the future projects.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, when when I can talk about them more.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: Rebecca, thank you very much for doing the show.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: The world's a better place with you in it.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: Big thanks to my friend Rebecca Kennedy for doing the show today.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: That was a lot of fun, it was a great conversation.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_02: Check out the movie Two Witches available right now on Amazon Prime Video.
• 50:55
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• 51:00
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• 51:04
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• 51:05
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• 51:22
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• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: This has been Caught on the Mike with Michael Clark.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Michael Clark.
• 51:43
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