Latest / The Rita Panahi Show / The Rita Panahi Show | 7 October
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. I'm
- 0:10Speaker 2: James Morrow, filling in for Rita, and here's what's coming
- 0:13Speaker 2: up tonight. Protesters are met with tear gas as France's
- 0:17Speaker 2: so-called school riots descend into absolute anarchy. Meanwhile, in the UK,
- 0:23Speaker 2: a town has been forced into lockdown by the government
- 0:26Speaker 2: to make way for migrant boats. Plus, former US special
- 0:30Speaker 2: counsel Jack Smith, who investigated many of the false claims
- 0:34Speaker 2: and indeed pushed many of the false claims about Trump,
- 0:37Speaker 2: has been spotted wearing a political statement tee at a
- 0:41Speaker 2: Springsteen concert. How absolutely cliche. And actress Gillian Anderson blows
- 0:49Speaker 2: up at front row fans at her theater show. Savage
- 0:52Speaker 2: or warranted? Michael Loftus will be here to discuss.
- 0:55Speaker 3: And.
- 1:01Speaker 2: What are they screaming about? It might not be what
- 1:04Speaker 2: you expect, but I'm going to show you a bit
- 1:06Speaker 2: later on on lefties losing it. But first, today marks
- 1:11Speaker 2: three years since depraved Hamas terrorists smashed through Israel's borders
- 1:17Speaker 2: from the Gaza Strip and engaged in an hours-long campaign
- 1:21Speaker 2: of murder, rape, pillage and kidnapping. 1,200-plus innocent Israelis, from
- 1:27Speaker 2: babies to the elderly, were killed at the hands of
- 1:30Speaker 2: those bloodthirsty monsters. It was, as you'll recall, absolutely horrific.
- 1:37Speaker 2: But despite continued warnings from Australia's Jewish community that anti-Semitism
- 1:42Speaker 2: was rising, raising its ugly head in the country, our
- 1:45Speaker 2: own federal government, Anthony Albanese, Penny Wong, I'm looking at you,
- 1:51Speaker 2: they let that hatred fester before it exploded onto Bondi
- 1:55Speaker 2: Beach in December last year. And the lack of leadership
- 1:59Speaker 2: we've seen over the past three years has been well documented,
- 2:02Speaker 2: not just here, but around the world. The United States
- 2:06Speaker 2: Special Envoy to combat anti-Semitism has singled out Anthony Albanese
- 2:10Speaker 2: for neutering Australia's Special Envoy Gillian Siegel and taking too
- 2:15Speaker 2: long to expect her recommendations to combat anti-Semitism. Of the
- 2:21Speaker 2: tragedy on Bondi Beach, he noted that, quote, it took
- 2:24Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of worldwide effort to even agree to
- 2:28Speaker 2: have a royal commission. Well, to discuss this on this
- 2:32Speaker 2: tragic anniversary, let's bring in my panel of Verve Communications,
- 2:36Speaker 2: Prue McSween and News 24 contributor Louise Roberts. Prue, let's
- 2:41Speaker 2: start with you here tonight. This has just been, you know,
- 2:46Speaker 2: a horrible three years for not just the Jewish community,
- 2:48Speaker 2: but the entire, I think, Australian community. We know that
- 2:52Speaker 2: Anthony Albanese has failed miserably to protect Jews and also
- 2:56Speaker 2: to really condemn radical Islam. But now it's clear that
- 3:00Speaker 2: the world has noticed how weak he is.
- 3:03Speaker 4: They couldn't help but noticing.
- 3:05Speaker 2: It's been so obvious.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Ever since he became prime minister, we knew he was
- 3:09Speaker 4: an activist at university. He was, he started, co-started the
- 3:14Speaker 4: Friends of Palestine movement, and now he's translated that and
- 3:18Speaker 4: brought it to his PMship with no mandate. you know,
- 3:23Speaker 4: to force a two-state solution on us, to send millions
- 3:32Speaker 4: of dollars, as Wong has, over to Hamas. And there
- 3:36Speaker 4: is no justification in it, and there's certainly no support
- 3:40Speaker 4: for it. Most fair-minded Australians find it obscene and provocative,
- 3:44Speaker 4: what's going on today. And the fact that he dragged
- 3:48Speaker 4: the chain with the Royal Commission.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Louise Roberts, though... This has just been a
- 3:53Speaker 2: horrible day because people planned and have held vigils not
- 3:59Speaker 2: for the victims of Hamas, but for Gaza. How could
- 4:07Speaker 2: anybody be so insensitive And so callous, we've seen people saying,
- 4:13Speaker 2: you know, this is a horrific day to do all this,
- 4:15Speaker 2: and yet they're going out today of all days and
- 4:18Speaker 2: waving their Palestinian flags.
- 4:19Speaker 5: And there's plenty of other days they could actually make
- 4:21Speaker 5: their protest.
- 4:22Speaker 6: 364 other... That's right.
- 4:23Speaker 5: And also, if they want to protest about conditions in Gaza,
- 4:26Speaker 5: why not go to Gaza or nearby? I mean, but
- 4:28Speaker 5: they wouldn't go there, would they? They'd have to... They'd
- 4:30Speaker 5: have to do it on Australian soil. And it's a
- 4:32Speaker 5: very sad day for humanity when October 7 is too
- 4:36Speaker 5: much to give to Jewish Australians to allow them to
- 4:38Speaker 5: grieve and to give them that respect... The grief is
- 4:41Speaker 5: being hijacked. It's so callous. It's so insensitive. And it
- 4:45Speaker 5: sends a very ugly message to our Jewish Australians who
- 4:48Speaker 5: are already, quite rightly, questioning how safe they are, how
- 4:52Speaker 5: respected they are and how loved they are in this country.
- 4:55Speaker 5: So the lack of sensitivity is just mind-boggling.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I never would have thought that 25 years ago when
- 5:01Speaker 2: I came to this country I would see the situation
- 5:04Speaker 2: that we have today where they have to go to school,
- 5:08Speaker 2: and synagogue under armed guard. It is just disgraceful, a
- 5:10Speaker 2: disgraceful state of affairs. And October 7th, we should be
- 5:14Speaker 2: remembering that here, not just what went on in Gaza
- 5:17Speaker 2: and Anthony Albanese. You are the skipper. You are responsible
- 5:21Speaker 2: for all of this. But speaking of the prime minister, meanwhile,
- 5:24Speaker 2: instead of being here, he's off on his sad tour
- 5:27Speaker 2: of the Indo-Pacific, trying to make Chris Bowen feel good
- 5:30Speaker 2: about his vanity climate project. Now, here was a bit
- 5:34Speaker 2: of him yesterday.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Climate change must be understood as being something more than
- 5:40Speaker 3: about science or targets. It must be understood that effectively
- 5:44Speaker 3: it's about people is what it comes down to and
- 5:47Speaker 3: the impact on humanity.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Ah, yes, did you get that? It's no longer about science.
- 5:54Speaker 2: It's all about the vibe of the thing. And vibes
- 5:57Speaker 2: seem to be our new pathway to net zero after
- 6:00Speaker 2: the Australian last month revealed that we'll fall about 30%
- 6:04Speaker 2: short of our 2030s renewable target. The Prime Minister has
- 6:07Speaker 2: now declared optimism will get us there.
- 6:11Speaker 6: Have a listen.
- 6:12Speaker 3: Firm commitment to work with optimism and determination to build
- 6:17Speaker 3: a more resilient future.
- 6:20Speaker 6: I think that optimism.
- 6:22Speaker 3: is an important part of the component that we need
- 6:26Speaker 3: to win in order to secure support.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Now, of course, Prue, we got that clip of Albanese
- 6:33Speaker 2: because the energy minister, Chris Bowen, was off asleep somewhere.
- 6:37Speaker 2: But although I did love that shirt, I think he'll
- 6:39Speaker 2: be wearing that in Copacabana in his retirement. But seriously, though,
- 6:43Speaker 2: I kind of feel like, well, if we're not going
- 6:45Speaker 2: to meet the target... Almost that's kind of a good
- 6:48Speaker 2: thing because it's, you know, considering how destructive it has
- 6:51Speaker 2: been to get there already.
- 6:53Speaker 7: Well, you're right.
- 6:54Speaker 4: But, I mean, I think the problem is that they
- 6:56Speaker 4: are still so delusional about renewables and this whole energy
- 7:01Speaker 4: fantasy that Bowen is trying to inflict on us all
- 7:05Speaker 4: and ignoring what's happening before our eyes in Europe where
- 7:09Speaker 4: suddenly the lights have come on in people's brains and
- 7:12Speaker 4: And they realised that uranium, that the renewables fantasy has
- 7:16Speaker 4: to stop. And wasn't it a beautiful metaphor when the
- 7:20Speaker 4: lights went out during the cop-out Fiji holiday, and in particular,
- 7:26Speaker 4: serendipitous when it was during Zali Steggall's speech? You know,
- 7:31Speaker 4: the woman was in the dark, wading through this myth of...
- 7:35Speaker 4: It was hilarious, but really sad and obscene when you
- 7:39Speaker 4: think that it's at least $ 20 million and probably a
- 7:42Speaker 4: lot more of taxpayer money that could have been spent
- 7:45Speaker 4: on so many other things here that we need. We're
- 7:48Speaker 4: all crying out for infrastructure, and this government is just
- 7:52Speaker 4: wasting money left, right and centre and deluded.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's interesting too. Fiji's a lovely place,
- 7:58Speaker 2: nothing wrong with Fiji, but at a time when, you know,
- 8:02Speaker 2: Australian small businesses and the hospitality sector are doing it tough,
- 8:05Speaker 2: might it not have sent quite the message for them
- 8:08Speaker 2: to host this, say, I'm sure there'll be some lovely
- 8:10Speaker 2: resorts up the coast somewhere they could have done this,
- 8:12Speaker 2: and a lot of communities, Australian communities, that if we're
- 8:15Speaker 2: going to sprinkle all of this largesse around, You know,
- 8:19Speaker 2: and again, I'm not saying I support the conference, but,
- 8:21Speaker 2: you know, maybe at least that would have been a
- 8:23Speaker 2: better option.
- 8:23Speaker 5: Why didn't they have it in Queensland? There's some beautiful
- 8:25Speaker 5: locations and hotels and businesses that would have loved that cash,
- 8:28Speaker 5: wouldn't they? But, of course, no, they had to go
- 8:30Speaker 5: over to Fiji. And I just find it's the absurdity
- 8:32Speaker 5: of this whole climate vanity exercise is they're talking about
- 8:36Speaker 5: saving the planet, very well-heeled... well-paid bureaucrats and politicians in
- 8:41Speaker 5: the room. And look at the line-ups. Julia Gillard, Zali,
- 8:44Speaker 5: as you say, who said that the power outage was trifling.
- 8:48Speaker 5: I bet when a storm goes rolling in over the
- 8:49Speaker 5: manly headland and her power's knocked out on the northern
- 8:52Speaker 5: beach and she doesn't call it trifling then.
- 8:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 8:54Speaker 5: When a pheasant's in the oven and it burns or whatever.
- 8:56Speaker 5: But also, the biggest polluters on the planet, China and India,
- 9:00Speaker 5: aren't even in the room. So how is Australia going
- 9:03Speaker 5: to fix climate? Short answer, it ain't.
- 9:05Speaker 2: This is what I always say. You know, if you're
- 9:07Speaker 2: going to be protesting climate, you'd be out in front
- 9:10Speaker 2: of the Chinese embassy, you know, not in front of
- 9:12Speaker 2: a coal plant here. Hey, though, you know, speaking of
- 9:14Speaker 2: all of this here, because all of this comes down
- 9:16Speaker 2: to our tax dollars here. And we've had a lot
- 9:19Speaker 2: of disputes this week here around the ATO. They're not
- 9:23Speaker 2: taking the credit card surcharges. Everybody else having to pay that.
- 9:26Speaker 2: But also we've seen new news from the country's largest
- 9:29Speaker 2: professional accounting body, CPA Australia, that says, and again, this
- 9:34Speaker 2: won't shock anybody who's in business, but tax compliance costs
- 9:37Speaker 2: are costing around $ 60 billion a year. It's not a
- 9:40Speaker 2: tax bill, they say. It is the cost of navigating
- 9:45Speaker 2: the system. This is a complicated tax system. You have
- 9:48Speaker 2: to go to an accountant to do simple things like
- 9:51Speaker 2: try and comply with the law. Pru, you're a small
- 9:53Speaker 2: business owner. You've been in business. Tell us, why is
- 9:58Speaker 2: it so difficult for us to get this right? Because
- 10:01Speaker 2: I have a sneaking suspicion that this government doesn't like
- 10:05Speaker 2: small business very much and they're happy for them to
- 10:08Speaker 2: wear the compliance costs So they can just deal with
- 10:10Speaker 2: the big businesses that are heavily regulated.
- 10:14Speaker 4: But they don't understand how we are the biggest employers
- 10:17Speaker 4: in this country and, you know, how ridiculous and obscene
- 10:20Speaker 4: it is. But as a small business owner, it seems
- 10:23Speaker 4: that they actually hate you. because they're getting tougher on people,
- 10:28Speaker 4: small business, the amount of redundancies and the fact that
- 10:35Speaker 4: the tax department is going after so many now. When
- 10:41Speaker 4: I was running my business with 40 people, And I
- 10:44Speaker 4: had to rely on a credit card sometimes because my
- 10:46Speaker 4: global clients were paying me 100 days just to pay
- 10:50Speaker 4: my staff. Now you have to pay the superannuation as
- 10:54Speaker 4: well on the payday. Everything, along with these compliance costs,
- 10:59Speaker 4: I used to lie awake at night and think, how
- 11:01Speaker 4: the hell? I can't pay myself for a month because
- 11:04Speaker 4: I can't afford to pay my staff. And I don't...
- 11:07Speaker 4: I would never run another small business because there is
- 11:10Speaker 4: no point in doing it because this government has a
- 11:13Speaker 4: campaign against you.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Louise, that is the thing that we are seeing, is that,
- 11:18Speaker 2: you know, the ATO, and we hear reports after reports
- 11:21Speaker 2: that they're really screwing down on ordinary folks' small businesses... Again,
- 11:26Speaker 2: how does Jim Chalmers preside over all of this? Because
- 11:29Speaker 2: I think that we're going to start to see a
- 11:32Speaker 2: bit of a groundswell against the Treasurer, and I'm not
- 11:35Speaker 2: sure he makes it to the next election.
- 11:37Speaker 5: I think it's already happening, that groundswell, isn't it? I
- 11:39Speaker 5: think already. I mean, you talk about anyone, and Prue's
- 11:41Speaker 5: a great example, anyone who wants to start a business
- 11:43Speaker 5: or is running a business just thinks... The government talk
- 11:47Speaker 5: a great game about productivity and raising productivity, but Instead
- 11:51Speaker 5: of growing your business and employing staff, you're having to
- 11:53Speaker 5: spend all this money on the compliance side. And not
- 11:56Speaker 5: only that, but the waste of time and the bureaucracy
- 11:58Speaker 5: on it when, as you say, they've just got a
- 12:03Speaker 5: real mission to destroy small business. I wonder whether it's
- 12:05Speaker 5: all part of the socialist agenda that eventually all small
- 12:08Speaker 5: business gets wiped out and all the businesses are government-owned.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Well, it is all about getting back to that pre-Keating,
- 12:16Speaker 2: pre-Hawks settlement where it's big businesses, big unions and the
- 12:19Speaker 2: big government all... all working together against you. But before
- 12:23Speaker 2: you guys go, there's the latest News 24 Pulse figures,
- 12:26Speaker 2: and they have the Labour Party crashing to its lowest
- 12:30Speaker 2: primary vote since 1901. Now, One Nation sits on top
- 12:35Speaker 2: of the heap, and the coalition is languishing in the
- 12:38Speaker 2: low 20s. Prue, just real quick here before we go here,
- 12:42Speaker 2: One Nation's on top, but the coalition has vowed to
- 12:44Speaker 2: make these cuts to immigration, do you think?
- 12:46Speaker 6: People will trust them.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Do you think they can win back any ground on that?
- 12:51Speaker 4: They may win a bit of ground. The problem is
- 12:53Speaker 4: it's quite detailed, and the average person, I think, will
- 12:56Speaker 4: find it hard to understand what the benefits are of
- 12:59Speaker 4: what they're suggesting. And I think that, really, people have
- 13:02Speaker 4: made their decision now already. One Nation is... Whether they
- 13:06Speaker 4: support everything they do, if it means that they'll break...
- 13:10Speaker 4: this nexus between the Coalition and Labor and change the
- 13:15Speaker 4: political landscape and what is acceptable, I think that's why
- 13:18Speaker 4: more people will vote One Nation.
- 13:20Speaker 2: And, Louise, just very quickly here, but are you finding
- 13:23Speaker 2: that when you're just out and about talking to people,
- 13:25Speaker 2: are you finding support for One Nation in corners where
- 13:28Speaker 2: you might not have expected it before?
- 13:29Speaker 5: I am very surprised by it. Sort of, you know,
- 13:32Speaker 5: maybe my demographic, sort of, you know, mums of teenagers
- 13:34Speaker 5: and things like that are very much... abandoning the coalition
- 13:38Speaker 5: and thinking one nation has possibly the solutions to all
- 13:41Speaker 5: the grievances that we have.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Absolutely extraordinary. Louise Roberts, Prue McSween, thank you so much
- 13:46Speaker 2: for joining me. Let's turn now to Europe and specifically
- 13:52Speaker 2: the UK. And I got to say, I don't know
- 13:54Speaker 2: why the political class of Britain seems to hate the
- 13:57Speaker 2: people they rule so much. Relentless calls to stop the
- 14:01Speaker 2: boats and reduce migration haven't deterred the Labour government from
- 14:06Speaker 2: flooding the country with new arrivals. A few weeks ago,
- 14:09Speaker 2: a town called Piddington literally voted to leave the UK
- 14:13Speaker 2: because the government forced 1,256 male asylum seekers into their
- 14:15Speaker 2: peaceful little town. And now just three weeks later, the government,
- 14:23Speaker 2: the Labour government of Andy Burnham has betrayed the British
- 14:26Speaker 2: people once more. Police have essentially rolled out the red
- 14:30Speaker 2: carpet as a boatload of immigrants escorted by police have
- 14:34Speaker 2: made their way into the town of Gosport. That's 149
- 14:37Speaker 2: illegal migrants and four coaches you see there making their
- 14:41Speaker 2: way into the town. Meanwhile, the British people of Gosforth,
- 14:45Speaker 2: the actual residents there, the citizens, the taxpayers, were told
- 14:49Speaker 2: to go into lockdown to prevent protest about it. Yes,
- 14:54Speaker 2: you heard that right. The whole town forced into a
- 14:56Speaker 2: lockdown for migrants to make their way in. Beggar's belief.
- 15:01Speaker 2: But to talk about this and explain maybe what's happening,
- 15:04Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to international relations expert Ralph Schulhaber. Ralph,
- 15:09Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. I have been
- 15:12Speaker 2: so disturbed about all of this. Why are these arrivals
- 15:15Speaker 2: being directed into these beautiful little English towns in the
- 15:18Speaker 2: first place?
- 15:20Speaker 6: Well, that's a big question, isn't it?
- 15:22Speaker 8: I mean, if you look at the numbers since 2021
- 15:25Speaker 8: until 2025, about 4 million people arrived in the UK,
- 15:29Speaker 8: even though we were promised by every single government that
- 15:32Speaker 8: they will reduce migration. I mean, the sense really is,
- 15:35Speaker 8: and this is the strategy of left-wing parties all over Europe,
- 15:38Speaker 8: and I'm sure we're going to talk about France as well,
- 15:40Speaker 8: and you also played the clip of Chuck Schumer before.
- 15:42Speaker 8: This is the attempt to import future new voters for
- 15:45Speaker 8: left-wing parties. That is, for me, the only reasonable explanation
- 15:48Speaker 8: at this point. And, of course, the ideological-cultural component, which
- 15:52Speaker 8: is the strong belief on the left. that the Western population,
- 15:57Speaker 8: that Western civilization has to be replaced by diversity.
- 16:01Speaker 6: And whatever you want to name it.
- 16:03Speaker 8: That we are a culture, a civilization so riddled with guilt,
- 16:07Speaker 8: so riddled with the sins of our past that mass
- 16:09Speaker 8: migration is the only form of atonement. I know this
- 16:11Speaker 8: sounds hyperbolic, but many of them truly believe it. And
- 16:15Speaker 8: by the way, they openly say so. I looked at
- 16:17Speaker 8: some of the... The protesters at Columbia University a couple
- 16:21Speaker 8: of months back, I looked at their Instagram accounts and
- 16:23Speaker 8: they openly say, we are Westerners working for the destruction
- 16:27Speaker 8: of Western civilization. So they don't hide the ball. It's
- 16:31Speaker 8: just very often the legacy media that pretends that they
- 16:33Speaker 8: don't see it.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, how much of this, too, has
- 16:37Speaker 2: to do with these things such as the Global Compact
- 16:39Speaker 2: on Migration, UN refugee charters that have basically taken away
- 16:44Speaker 2: the power of democracy from many of these nations where
- 16:47Speaker 2: people are having this inflicted on them?
- 16:50Speaker 8: Well, it hasn't really been taken from them because no
- 16:52Speaker 8: government was forced to sign it, right? As you just said,
- 16:55Speaker 8: for example, the Global Compact on Migration, and generally also
- 16:58Speaker 8: the UN policy, by the way, that European states agreed
- 17:01Speaker 8: on that they.
- 17:01Speaker 6: Shall not negatively report about migration.
- 17:04Speaker 8: I'm sure you remember the famous scene with Angela Merkel,
- 17:07Speaker 8: then the Chancellor of Germany, who was caught on a
- 17:09Speaker 8: hot mic when she said to Mark Zuckerberg whether they
- 17:13Speaker 8: can do something on Facebook and social media that posts
- 17:16Speaker 8: that speak negatively about mass migration can be suppressed. This
- 17:20Speaker 8: was a decision by the heads of the countries in question.
- 17:23Speaker 6: And I think we have to name and shame them
- 17:26Speaker 6: as it is.
- 17:27Speaker 8: Nobody is forced to sign up to any kind of
- 17:30Speaker 8: UN idea or to any idea that is proposed by
- 17:32Speaker 8: an international NGO.
- 17:34Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely correct. And I wish some of our own
- 17:36Speaker 2: politicians here in Australia might remember that as well, because,
- 17:40Speaker 2: you know, you see where this all leads. You look
- 17:44Speaker 2: at France right now, these riots which are being dressed
- 17:48Speaker 2: up as school protests, but they've really been about destroying
- 17:51Speaker 2: schools and all sorts of other things that they thought
- 17:54Speaker 2: that they might be trying to protect or get more
- 17:56Speaker 2: services for. But the scale of these protests has ballooned.
- 18:00Speaker 2: You can see this in some of the footage that's
- 18:02Speaker 2: going around. I hear also that in Barcelona, they're starting
- 18:05Speaker 2: similar protests. Has France lost control of the country? And
- 18:12Speaker 2: where does this go for France? How can the government
- 18:14Speaker 2: of Macron come back from this? Does this wind up
- 18:18Speaker 2: With a Le Pen government, a far-right government, what's going
- 18:20Speaker 2: to happen next here?
- 18:23Speaker 6: Well, a few things I think are important to mention.
- 18:25Speaker 8: One is the French government lost control over parts of
- 18:27Speaker 8: France already in 2005. They had these riots, these quote-unquote
- 18:32Speaker 8: demonstrations a couple of times over the last 20 years,
- 18:34Speaker 8: and they've been ongoing. It's just not every time that
- 18:37Speaker 8: they reached such a level that international media was reporting
- 18:40Speaker 8: about them. Number two is Emmanuel Macron is basically absent.
- 18:44Speaker 8: There were a couple of comments, but overall it's his
- 18:46Speaker 8: prime minister running the show. Why Macron does not feel
- 18:50Speaker 8: any obligation to speak out on this is a mystery
- 18:52Speaker 8: to me that we can kind of dig deeper into.
- 18:55Speaker 8: But the third and one of the most important points
- 18:57Speaker 8: is that this has been instigated, according to French intelligence,
- 19:01Speaker 8: by the French radical left.
- 19:03Speaker 6: And why did they do it?
- 19:04Speaker 8: Because my suspicion is they want to show what you
- 19:06Speaker 8: just mentioned, future Le Pen voters. If you vote for
- 19:09Speaker 8: Marine Le Pen, here is what we can do at
- 19:12Speaker 8: a whim's notice. We basically have a reserve army at
- 19:16Speaker 8: our disposal that gives us the riotous veto. Because rest assured,
- 19:19Speaker 8: if Le Pen becomes president, what we've seen over the
- 19:22Speaker 8: last couple of days was just the beginning.
- 19:24Speaker 2: And how does, though, even beyond quelling these riots right now,
- 19:30Speaker 2: it seems that France has a very large problem because
- 19:33Speaker 2: clearly large numbers of these people who are rioting, they're
- 19:36Speaker 2: from migrant populations, but they're not new. They're second and
- 19:39Speaker 2: third generation, according to many reports. Do you have now
- 19:43Speaker 2: an ethnically separatist group within France? Is France multiculturalism now
- 19:48Speaker 2: cracking up?
- 19:50Speaker 8: Well, I would say that multiculturalism is cracking up everywhere.
- 19:53Speaker 8: That is not a particularly French phenomenon. But ultimately, what
- 19:56Speaker 8: you're faced with are three options. And none of them,
- 19:58Speaker 8: by the way, are pretty. But I think we have
- 20:00Speaker 8: to be honest about this in our conversation.
- 20:02Speaker 6: Number one is that you say.
- 20:03Speaker 8: Okay, we create legally the option of denaturalization and then remigration.
- 20:09Speaker 8: And what I mean by this is, for example, if
- 20:11Speaker 8: somebody burns down a school while holding an Algerian flag
- 20:14Speaker 8: or a Palestinian flag, also in the video that you
- 20:16Speaker 8: played before, We saw very prominently the Palestinian flag during
- 20:19Speaker 8: those protests or a Moroccan flag. You say, you know what, fine,
- 20:22Speaker 8: if you openly show allegiance to another country, we bring
- 20:27Speaker 8: you back to that country. Number two would be the
- 20:30Speaker 8: Naib Bukele El Salvador way that you say mass incarceration.
- 20:34Speaker 8: So if people burn down school, if they protest, you
- 20:36Speaker 8: really lock them up, not just for a day, not
- 20:38Speaker 8: on probation, not out on bail after 24 hours. You
- 20:41Speaker 8: really punish them and thereby create deterrence. And my least
- 20:45Speaker 8: favorite one, number three, capitulation.
- 20:48Speaker 6: Did you see?
- 20:49Speaker 8: Okay, there are simply areas of France where the French
- 20:51Speaker 8: state is no longer in control. So these are basically
- 20:54Speaker 8: the three options. Remigration, as I said, mass incarceration, or capitulation. Unfortunately,
- 21:01Speaker 8: I don't see a fourth way. The idea as it
- 21:03Speaker 8: is proposed, we just have to throw more money.
- 21:06Speaker 6: At the issue. It's ridiculous.
- 21:07Speaker 8: I mean, basically the claim is, give us more money
- 21:10Speaker 8: for the school that we just burnt down.
- 21:13Speaker 6: I mean, this is completely insane.
- 21:15Speaker 8: But let me... No, James, I'm too long, but let
- 21:16Speaker 8: me make one more point. There is a significant migrant
- 21:19Speaker 8: component to this. That is true, but that is not all,
- 21:22Speaker 8: because particularly young people have a very good sense about
- 21:26Speaker 8: where the future power is lying. So if the alpha male,
- 21:30Speaker 8: so to speak, the alpha people are the individuals with
- 21:32Speaker 8: the migrant background who set the school on fire, what
- 21:35Speaker 8: you then have is also... however you want to call it,
- 21:39Speaker 8: you know, native French, that also then tag along because
- 21:42Speaker 8: they go where the power is. So there's this other
- 21:44Speaker 8: component as well, that bad behavior that is not being
- 21:47Speaker 8: punished is contagious. And then it spreads from the migrant
- 21:52Speaker 8: population to the regular population.
- 21:54Speaker 6: We see this also with sexual violence.
- 21:56Speaker 8: If you, for example, don't punish gang rape, it is
- 21:59Speaker 8: only a matter of time until more and more people
- 22:02Speaker 8: do it. This is unfortunately the way society works and
- 22:04Speaker 8: that's not different anywhere.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Yeah, no, look, it's absolutely horrifying what you're describing here,
- 22:08Speaker 2: because I don't know what the future is now for France.
- 22:10Speaker 2: I do know that Germany, the far right, they call
- 22:12Speaker 2: it far right, AFD, Alternative for Deutschland. They have had
- 22:16Speaker 2: a big victory, though, in the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt.
- 22:19Speaker 2: And their Tobias Rausch has been elected speaker of the
- 22:23Speaker 2: German regional parliament for the first time. How is the
- 22:25Speaker 2: German establishment coping with this? Because they've tried every firewall
- 22:30Speaker 2: in the world to stop this from happening. Very quickly,
- 22:33Speaker 2: where does this go?
- 22:36Speaker 8: I think the establishment is reacting the usual ridiculous way.
- 22:40Speaker 8: They now staged a march in Berlin and they were
- 22:42Speaker 8: singing the national anthem, which I find quite ridiculous because
- 22:45Speaker 8: the very parties that told us for decades that nationalism
- 22:49Speaker 8: is passe, that they are post-national parties. that patriotism is
- 22:54Speaker 8: only for suckers and for losers. They now dare to
- 22:57Speaker 8: appeal to the national anthem. That is a complete joke.
- 22:59Speaker 8: I mean, for the AFD, the question is now Saxon
- 23:02Speaker 8: and small states, small populations, but they now have to
- 23:05Speaker 8: demonstrate that they are capable of governing. And I wish
- 23:08Speaker 8: them the best of luck because people who see what's
- 23:10Speaker 8: happening in France, people that see what's happening in the UK,
- 23:13Speaker 8: they put their faith and hope.
- 23:15Speaker 6: In the AFD.
- 23:16Speaker 8: If they cannot deliver now, I'm afraid to think where
- 23:20Speaker 8: these people would go next.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Ralph Schoenheimer, we're going to have to leave it there.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Always absolutely fascinating to chat. Thank
- 23:26Speaker 2: you so much. After the break, lefties losing it. Plus,
- 23:29Speaker 2: remember Jack Smith, who tried to prosecute Trump not once
- 23:32Speaker 2: but twice? He's been spotted out and about with a
- 23:35Speaker 2: very on-brand T-shirt. More on that with Josh Hammer after
- 23:39Speaker 2: the break. And now it's time for Lefties Losing It.
- 23:49Speaker 2: And hoo boy have the lefties gone really nuclear over
- 23:52Speaker 2: this one. And I mean that quite literally. It all
- 23:56Speaker 2: stems from this one clip of US President Donald Trump
- 24:00Speaker 2: speaking yesterday about the threat of Iran and why it
- 24:04Speaker 2: is worth taking that hostile regime out. Now, here's what
- 24:09Speaker 2: Trump said, explaining that in the process, you might have
- 24:13Speaker 2: higher petrol prices, but they're a small price to pay
- 24:17Speaker 2: versus what might happen if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons.
- 24:23Speaker 6: I want to see a tremendous victory.
- 24:24Speaker 2: You want to see a tremendous victory because it verifies
- 24:27Speaker 2: all the things we did.
- 24:28Speaker 9: And again, remember, with the war, it's just artificial. It's
- 24:31Speaker 9: a little bit high.
- 24:32Speaker 8: It's a small price to pay for keeping the world safe,
- 24:36Speaker 8: keeping our country safe.
- 24:37Speaker 1: They could take out a city.
- 24:39Speaker 6: Let him take out Los Angeles.
- 24:42Speaker 9: Let him take out San Diego.
- 24:44Speaker 7: This is a very.
- 24:45Speaker 3: Small price to pay.
- 24:47Speaker 1: And it's going to be over very soon.
- 24:49Speaker 6: It's essentially almost over with. And they might keep going
- 24:53Speaker 6: a little long. You know, they always say they have
- 24:55Speaker 6: a big threshold for pain.
- 24:56Speaker 10: They need it.
- 24:56Speaker 6: Let me tell you, they need it. But it's going
- 24:59Speaker 6: to end very soon, and it'll end one way or
- 25:02Speaker 6: the other.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Now, reasonable people will say, hey, it's pretty clear that
- 25:06Speaker 2: Trump meant that fighting Iran and suffering through higher gas
- 25:09Speaker 2: prices was a much better alternative than a nuclear-armed Iran
- 25:13Speaker 2: that could take out a city like Los Angeles or
- 25:17Speaker 2: San Diego. but not everybody's quite as fair-minded. So let
- 25:23Speaker 2: the games begin. Here's Morning Joe's Joe Scarborough on MSNBC
- 25:28Speaker 2: or MSNOW or whatever they're calling it this week.
- 25:30Speaker 11: Talking about the President of the United States, talking about
- 25:34Speaker 11: the obliteration of San Diego and Los Angeles as a joke?
- 25:39Speaker 11: That's what I've already heard this morning.
- 25:41Speaker 6: Oh, he was just joking.
- 25:42Speaker 7: No, I don't get it.
- 25:45Speaker 11: When the president of the United States says Iran can
- 25:49Speaker 11: obliterate Los Angeles and San Diego. Not Diego. Funny, if
- 25:55Speaker 11: you're an American who actually believes that presidents should do
- 25:58Speaker 11: more than divide us.
- 26:01Speaker 2: And remember, this is the same Joe Scarborough who in
- 26:04Speaker 2: March 2024 said that Joe Biden was far beyond cogent and, quote,
- 26:08Speaker 2: the best Biden ever. So, yeah, he's very credible. Meanwhile,
- 26:13Speaker 2: on CNN, they were having kittens and giving California politicians
- 26:17Speaker 2: a free kick.
- 26:19Speaker 7: Those remarks eliciting strong condemnation from the Democratic leaders of L.A.
- 26:24Speaker 7: and San Diego, which are, of course, home to more
- 26:28Speaker 7: than 10 million Americans, including more than 100,000 active duty
- 26:33Speaker 7: service members. The California governor, Gavin Newsom, calling the president's comments, quote,
- 26:38Speaker 7: disgusting and disqualifying, end quote.
- 26:41Speaker 2: The L.A.
- 26:41Speaker 7: Mayor, Karen Bass, telling Trump, quote, keep L.A. out of
- 26:44Speaker 7: your damn mouth. And San Diego Mayor Todd Gloria saying, quote,
- 26:48Speaker 7: we are not expendable and we are never a small
- 26:51Speaker 7: price to pay.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Sorry, are we living in the same reality here? And
- 26:55Speaker 2: I have to say, I love that newfound respect the
- 26:58Speaker 2: left suddenly has for the U.S.
- 27:00Speaker 6: Military.
- 27:01Speaker 2: This is, of course, a total replay of what we're
- 27:03Speaker 2: seeing now of the old very fine people hoax, where
- 27:05Speaker 2: way back in 2017, they tried to claim Trump called
- 27:09Speaker 2: neo-Nazis very fine people. Now, for his part, Trump simply
- 27:14Speaker 2: waved off the criticism quite literally. Meanwhile, over in Chicago,
- 27:34Speaker 2: check out Mayor Brandon Johnson here trying to pitch the
- 27:37Speaker 2: case for reparations for slavery, using a rhyme so lame
- 27:41Speaker 2: that when it didn't land the first time, he decided
- 27:44Speaker 2: to go back for more.
- 27:47Speaker 10: Will bring to black residents in reclaiming ownership of our
- 27:51Speaker 10: own communities. That is the spirit of Juneteenth, you all.
- 27:56Speaker 10: It is about reflecting on our past. Other cultures are
- 28:00Speaker 10: taught to never forget.
- 28:02Speaker 2: They didn't really dig that one, did they? First rule
- 28:06Speaker 2: of holes, Mr. Mayor, when you're in one, stop digging.
- 28:09Speaker 2: But if reparations were not bad enough, what about just
- 28:11Speaker 2: throwing over the country to illegals and handing them citizenship?
- 28:14Speaker 2: Here's Chuck Schumer saying the Dems would hand out 11
- 28:17Speaker 2: million new passports if they got back into power.
- 28:21Speaker 6: Now more than ever, we're short of workers.
- 28:25Speaker 8: We have a population that is not reproducing it on
- 28:29Speaker 8: its own with the same level that it used to.
- 28:33Speaker 2: And finally, well, this is lefties losing it, so let's
- 28:36Speaker 2: look at these lefties losing it, quite literally, as a
- 28:40Speaker 2: tree is knocked down to construct another section of border wall.
- 29:06Speaker 2: I tell you what, they're out of their trees. Now,
- 29:17Speaker 2: the heroism of passengers and one of the pilots of
- 29:19Speaker 2: that almost doomed fly Dubai flight have made headlines around
- 29:23Speaker 2: the world with investigators believing the co-pilot, who had been
- 29:26Speaker 2: banned from flying in Oman because of his links to
- 29:30Speaker 2: radical Islam, planned on executing a 9-11 style attack on
- 29:34Speaker 2: Tel Aviv. But is this case a one-off? Well, I'm
- 29:39Speaker 2: not so sure. because according to multiple airline industry reports,
- 29:43Speaker 2: There is a pilot at United Airlines who was suspended
- 29:47Speaker 2: for praising the October 7 attacks, yet apparently is back
- 29:52Speaker 2: in the air. How big a danger is this? Well,
- 29:54Speaker 2: to discuss this and a lot more, senior editor-at-large at Newsweek,
- 29:58Speaker 2: Josh Hammer. Josh, welcome to the program. Great to speak
- 30:02Speaker 2: to you again. This story seems extraordinary to me, but
- 30:07Speaker 2: is there a bigger danger in the U.S. and around
- 30:09Speaker 2: the world of radical Islam in the cockpit?
- 30:14Speaker 9: Listen, the short answer is yes. The bigger answer is
- 30:17Speaker 9: we don't know the extent to which it is a problem.
- 30:21Speaker 9: But like you, I am skeptical that this was a one-off.
- 30:24Speaker 9: Although it is worth noting that a lot of things
- 30:26Speaker 9: had to go wrong for this situation to happen. So
- 30:29Speaker 9: in the particular fly-to-buy situation, the pilot was an Omani national. Now,
- 30:35Speaker 9: Israel apparently, after the Abraham Accords were reached in 2020,
- 30:38Speaker 9: reached an agreement that basically said that for these Arab
- 30:41Speaker 9: countries that are starting to fly planes into Israel, the
- 30:44Speaker 9: pilots could only be from a country that has itself
- 30:47Speaker 9: made peace with Israel.
- 30:49Speaker 6: Well, guess what? Oman has not done that.
- 30:50Speaker 9: So, glaring red flag. Fly Dubai is an Emirati state-owned
- 30:55Speaker 9: aviation company, so the Emiratis clearly have some work to do.
- 30:58Speaker 9: By the way, this guy back when he was a
- 31:01Speaker 9: pilot for Oman Air was also, at the time, he
- 31:04Speaker 9: was demoted to a desk job because, as you accurately note,
- 31:07Speaker 9: he was found to have sympathies to radical Islamist ideology.
- 31:10Speaker 9: So listen, I mean, was this guy a one-off in
- 31:13Speaker 9: terms of all the Muslim pilots throughout the world? Probably not,
- 31:16Speaker 9: if we're being honest with you, probably not. And frankly,
- 31:18Speaker 9: I would say definitely not because let's talk about October 7th,
- 31:22Speaker 9: which is today. There are a lot of people throughout
- 31:24Speaker 9: the world that are now praising this, that are celebrating,
- 31:27Speaker 9: openly praising October 7th. When you mainstream the notion that
- 31:32Speaker 9: October 7th, the single deadliest day for the Jewish people
- 31:35Speaker 9: since Hitler and the Nazis were in power, when you
- 31:37Speaker 9: mainstream the notion that this was a good thing, a
- 31:40Speaker 9: thing to be celebrated, well, what's going to happen? A
- 31:42Speaker 9: lot of people are going to start taking that viewpoint.
- 31:45Speaker 9: I mean, frankly, I can go back to some polls
- 31:47Speaker 9: in the United States. There was a poll taken less
- 31:49Speaker 9: than a month after the October 7th slaughter of the
- 31:52Speaker 9: American Muslim community. And the poll found that roughly 57%
- 31:56Speaker 9: of American Muslims, 57% celebrated and praised October 7th. They
- 32:02Speaker 9: had no problems with it. So, I mean, let's just
- 32:06Speaker 9: play the odds game here, James. It's not particularly good.
- 32:08Speaker 9: There's nothing good down that road, I'm afraid.
- 32:10Speaker 6: Indeed.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Hey, I want to move on, though, because there's a
- 32:13Speaker 2: lot of other stuff to talk about here. And some
- 32:15Speaker 2: news that I thought was kind of over, but apparently not.
- 32:18Speaker 2: There's more controversy over the former special counsel Jack Smith,
- 32:22Speaker 2: who investigated many of the false claims around Donald Trump.
- 32:26Speaker 2: He's now been seen wearing a No Kings T-shirt at
- 32:29Speaker 2: a Bruce Springsteen show, which is about as cliche as
- 32:32Speaker 2: I can imagine. But there are also now more questions
- 32:34Speaker 2: being raised about his behavior during his.
- 32:36Speaker 6: Time in office.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Tell us about this and why this witch hunt that
- 32:41Speaker 2: he maintained is now making news again.
- 32:44Speaker 9: He was basically snooping on Susie Wiles back when she
- 32:47Speaker 9: was the campaign manager for the Trump campaign, which is
- 32:50Speaker 9: shockingly similar in many ways, I might add, to the
- 32:53Speaker 9: Russiagate scandal back when Trump ran the first time around
- 32:56Speaker 9: back in 2016. So you have people snooping on the
- 32:58Speaker 9: campaign manager. They apparently were snooping also on Melania Trump,
- 33:02Speaker 9: on Barron Trump. We already knew that as part of
- 33:05Speaker 9: the dragnet campaign, through this anti-Trump phishing expedition that Jack
- 33:09Speaker 9: Smith acquired the phone records of numerous congressmen, senators, people.
- 33:13Speaker 6: Like Ted Cruz.
- 33:14Speaker 9: He was given access to all sorts of information that
- 33:17Speaker 9: he never, ever should have had access to. But this
- 33:21Speaker 9: image with him in the No King shirt, it really
- 33:23Speaker 9: does give away the game, doesn't it? Because so many
- 33:27Speaker 9: of us argued for years that this guy is a
- 33:29Speaker 9: leftist hack. If you go back to the height of
- 33:32Speaker 9: the Biden-era Democrat lawfare complex, as I call them, It
- 33:36Speaker 9: was structured very similarly to the mafia, to the close notion.
- 33:39Speaker 9: You had the Don, that was Joe Biden. You had
- 33:42Speaker 9: the Capo regime, the head of the operations. That was
- 33:45Speaker 9: Merrick Garland, the Attorney General. And then Jack Smith was
- 33:48Speaker 9: the leading assassin. He was the assassin for the Democrat
- 33:50Speaker 9: Lawfare Complex. And at this point, the only question is,
- 33:53Speaker 9: will he be prosecuted for his crimes? There were clear crimes,
- 33:56Speaker 9: my estimation, that he violated 18 U.S. Code Section 241
- 34:00Speaker 9: criminal conspiracy to deprive others of constitutional rights. I hope
- 34:03Speaker 9: he's indicted. I hope he ultimately goes to jail.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Yeah, look, indeed, lock him up, or at least check
- 34:09Speaker 2: out his crimes and see if you can lock him up,
- 34:11Speaker 2: because until you start to see some accountability, it'll happen again. Hey,
- 34:14Speaker 2: before I let you go, Josh, though, Michigan Senate hopeful
- 34:18Speaker 2: Abdul El-Sayed, a fellow that we've talked a lot about
- 34:21Speaker 2: on this program, well, here's a little bit of an
- 34:23Speaker 2: interview on Fox where he was called out for his
- 34:25Speaker 2: links to the oligarchs in the Soros family. Just have
- 34:29Speaker 2: a quick look at this.
- 34:31Speaker 12: Fundraising in California last weekend. You're here in New York
- 34:34Speaker 12: fundraising again. So all of this raises the obvious question about,
- 34:40Speaker 12: let me ask, here's what you said on the campaign trail.
- 34:42Speaker 11: Let's play this.
- 34:42Speaker 1: All I'm going to be talking about is getting money
- 34:44Speaker 1: out of politics.
- 34:44Speaker 6: It starts with getting money out of politics.
- 34:47Speaker 1: The major muscle fashion of money out.
- 34:49Speaker 12: Of politics and because the money in the politics is
- 34:51Speaker 12: about spending lots. OK, so here you are in Los
- 34:54Speaker 12: Angeles with the Soros family. So my question is, how
- 34:58Speaker 12: is this not taking money from billionaire oligarchs and power brokers?
- 35:02Speaker 7: So when individuals want to give to my campaign, I
- 35:04Speaker 7: welcome their support.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Josh, the hypocrisy, you can smell it from here. How
- 35:10Speaker 2: is Soros money not big money?
- 35:13Speaker 9: Yeah, listen, you know, the left has a very long
- 35:16Speaker 9: history of this. You know, they say one thing and
- 35:19Speaker 9: then do another thing. I mean, think of the million-dollar
- 35:22Speaker 9: mansion that the Marxist founders of Black Lives Matter was
- 35:25Speaker 9: living in. Think of the fact that Bernie Sanders has
- 35:27Speaker 9: a vacation home, right? I mean, think of the fact
- 35:29Speaker 9: that Leo DiCaprio was jetting off in a private jet
- 35:32Speaker 9: as he was preaching against the false gospel of climate change.
- 35:36Speaker 9: I mean, there's so many examples of the left doing
- 35:38Speaker 9: this over and over and over again. By the way,
- 35:41Speaker 9: even at face value, Abdul-Assad's comments are ludicrous. It's actually
- 35:44Speaker 9: not an individual. It's the Open Society Foundation. It's this massive,
- 35:48Speaker 9: massive leftist NGO. So he's lying to our faces, even
- 35:54Speaker 9: at face value. But the guy is obviously a loathsome hypocrite.
- 35:57Speaker 9: By the way, this was hardly, hardly the only jaw-dropping
- 36:00Speaker 9: moment from that excellent interview that Martha McCallum gave to
- 36:02Speaker 9: him over on Fox News yesterday. At another instance, he
- 36:05Speaker 9: utterly refused to say whether he would agree with the
- 36:08Speaker 9: official U.S. government policy to recognize various Muslim Brotherhood chapters
- 36:14Speaker 9: as terrorist organizations. He refused to answer the question. And
- 36:18Speaker 9: these are all the reasons, among others, as to why
- 36:21Speaker 9: in the latest polling I'm seeing, a majority of Michiganders
- 36:24Speaker 9: now say, that they think that Abdu'l-Sayed has wildly liberal
- 36:28Speaker 9: views that are out of touch with the state of Michigan. Now,
- 36:31Speaker 9: the question is, is this enough? I hope it is,
- 36:34Speaker 9: because this guy, if he gets to the Senate, God forbid,
- 36:36Speaker 9: will be a massive national security threat to the U.S.
- 36:39Speaker 6: Senate. We can't let that happen.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think you're absolutely right about that. We're
- 36:42Speaker 2: going to have to leave it there. We're out of time.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Josh Hammers, thanks so much for chatting today.
- 36:46Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
- 36:47Speaker 2: Coming up, tech geek Mark Zuckerberg might not be so geeky.
- 36:51Speaker 2: A new movie painting him as a ruthless overlord. More
- 36:54Speaker 2: on that from Michael Loftus in a tick. A PR
- 37:06Speaker 2: nightmare has landed on billionaire tech giant Mark Zuckerberg's doorstep.
- 37:10Speaker 2: The Social Reckoning, directed by Aaron Sorkin, is heading to
- 37:14Speaker 2: Australian theaters tomorrow, and as the anticipation grows around the
- 37:18Speaker 2: film release, well, we've had some early reviews, and they
- 37:22Speaker 2: are scathing of Zuckerberg himself. According to the reviews, they
- 37:26Speaker 2: describe Zuckerberg as ruthless, furious, and almost like a man
- 37:32Speaker 2: accustomed to having everyone obey him, suddenly confronted, with something
- 37:36Speaker 2: he can't control, namely accountability. This isn't Zuckerberg as the
- 37:42Speaker 2: awkward tech genius. This is Zuckerberg as emperor, watching the
- 37:47Speaker 2: walls start to crack as algorithms misinformation, lawsuits, and consequences
- 37:52Speaker 2: fall in on him. To discuss this and a whole
- 37:54Speaker 2: lot more, let's bring in writer and comedian Michael Loftus
- 37:58Speaker 2: to discuss. Michael, welcome to the program. Great to chat
- 38:01Speaker 2: to you here. Do you reckon this film is going
- 38:04Speaker 2: to be a bit of a reckoning for Mark Zuckerberg
- 38:06Speaker 2: and his sort of carefully cultivated dorky image?
- 38:11Speaker 1: I hope so. I hope it's a record. Something has
- 38:14Speaker 1: to happen with Facebook. Sadly, this movie is based on
- 38:19Speaker 1: events we've already seen, and we know that nothing happens
- 38:22Speaker 1: other than, as per usual, Mark Zuckerberg has to write
- 38:26Speaker 1: a tiny check and say, oops, sorry, it won't happen again.
- 38:30Speaker 1: How much stuff is this guy going to get away with? Oh,
- 38:33Speaker 1: good job on that actor, too. Looking like he has
- 38:36Speaker 1: no emotions and he might be an android. Wonderful job.
- 38:41Speaker 1: But is Zuck, is he ever going to get in
- 38:43Speaker 1: trouble for like the direct line from the FBI and
- 38:46Speaker 1: DC to Facebook and doing all the stuff that he
- 38:49Speaker 1: did with COVID and the misinformation and the Zuck bucks
- 38:53Speaker 1: and how he affected the 2020 election? These are big deals.
- 38:57Speaker 1: These are really big deals. And I don't think a
- 38:59Speaker 1: cheesy script from Aaron Sorkin is.
- 39:02Speaker 6: Going to cut it.
- 39:03Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I find that guy's writing to be, it's
- 39:06Speaker 1: like reading the phone book for crying out loud.
- 39:09Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 39:09Speaker 2: And, you know, we also need to have some accountability
- 39:11Speaker 2: as well for the way Facebook censored the Hunter Biden
- 39:15Speaker 2: laptop story. That was another one of those great moments
- 39:18Speaker 2: in Facebook's history. But, hey, no one I know uses
- 39:21Speaker 2: it anymore. So I guess maybe the joke's on Zuck.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Wanted to move on, though, because, you know, we had
- 39:25Speaker 2: that heartbreaking story of the loved country icon Donald. Dolly Parton.
- 39:30Speaker 2: We were all really sad about that, including here in Australia.
- 39:33Speaker 2: But sadly, it's been reported that Parton's nephew has unleashed
- 39:38Speaker 2: an explosive field rant in an email chain titled Letter
- 39:42Speaker 2: from Dolly. Days before the singer's death, with reports saying
- 39:46Speaker 2: the fiery messages were allegedly in regards to a dispute
- 39:50Speaker 2: over the security at Parton's Nashville properties. Page six in
- 39:56Speaker 2: news.com.au reports. According to court documents obtained by Page Six,
- 40:02Speaker 2: the heavily redacted email chain was forwarded among members of
- 40:06Speaker 2: the country music icon's team before Brian Seaver fired off
- 40:09Speaker 2: a profanity-laced response that said, among other things, quote, He
- 40:14Speaker 2: allegedly also added, quote, that elsewhere, please, by all means,
- 40:28Speaker 2: with sugar on top, let's do legal violence, you effing worthless, skinny,
- 40:33Speaker 2: fat nerd. Michael, that's a lot there. What is happening
- 40:40Speaker 2: here in Dolly Parton's estate and in the family there
- 40:44Speaker 2: that maybe we didn't see before?
- 40:46Speaker 6: What was going on there?
- 40:48Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, I want to say this Brian
- 40:51Speaker 1: Seaver guy is my new personal hero. That email was fantastic.
- 40:58Speaker 1: By all means, with sugar on tops, let's do legal violence.
- 41:02Speaker 1: I love this guy. He's great. So here's what's happening.
- 41:05Speaker 1: It's the classic fight about money. There's like a trust
- 41:10Speaker 1: in charge of Dolly's estate, and they're trying to edge
- 41:13Speaker 1: this poor guy out. Now, he's been working with Dolly.
- 41:16Speaker 1: He's been working with Dolly since the 80s. She personally
- 41:20Speaker 1: hired him. They had no trouble with this guy for
- 41:24Speaker 1: over 20 years. And then all of a sudden, Dolly
- 41:27Speaker 1: passes away. And you got to— this is just my opinion,
- 41:31Speaker 1: by the way. A bunch of people trying to edge
- 41:35Speaker 1: this guy out of Dolly's money. He had to deal
- 41:38Speaker 1: with them. So, oh, this is— As a guy who
- 41:42Speaker 1: loves that hot-blooded Southern mentality, I had to write it down.
- 41:48Speaker 1: By all means, with sugar on tops, let's do legal violence,
- 41:52Speaker 1: you skinny, fat nerd.
- 41:55Speaker 6: It's the best.
- 41:58Speaker 2: I don't know how you get the skinny and fat
- 42:00Speaker 2: all at the same time. It's pretty fantastic. Hey, on
- 42:02Speaker 2: to another sort of confrontational thing here. Actress Gillian Anderson,
- 42:08Speaker 2: she's apparently gone viral after confronting a group of what
- 42:11Speaker 2: are known as her super fans who have reportedly been
- 42:14Speaker 2: sitting in the front row of her West End production
- 42:17Speaker 2: of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. And the fans have
- 42:20Speaker 2: been waiting for the actress backstage. And, well, let's take
- 42:23Speaker 2: a look at how that all went.
- 42:26Speaker 10: You guys cannot sit in the front row.
- 42:29Speaker 11: You cannot.
- 42:30Speaker 8: I don't care.
- 42:30Speaker 5: You cannot sit in the front row.
- 42:32Speaker 1: It's so distracting.
- 42:34Speaker 8: You can't come 20 times and sit.
- 42:37Speaker 1: In the front row.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Well, Jillian has gone on to say that with a
- 42:42Speaker 2: message that the video doing the rounds is the talking
- 42:46Speaker 2: with the women I go back over 20 years with.
- 42:49Speaker 2: So please don't say anything negative about them. We're thrilled
- 42:52Speaker 2: to be doing this show. But for the people in
- 42:54Speaker 2: the front row, please be aware that there is in
- 42:58Speaker 2: such an intimate venue. We can all see you. And
- 43:00Speaker 2: sometimes it can be a tad distracting. Michael, what do
- 43:04Speaker 2: you what do you make of this? I actually sort
- 43:05Speaker 2: of think the idea of having super fans, if I
- 43:07Speaker 2: had a studio audience here tonight, on the program. I'd
- 43:10Speaker 2: love to have some super fans up the front here.
- 43:12Speaker 1: Hey, pal, what do you think I'm doing here? I'm
- 43:17Speaker 1: a super fan.
- 43:18Speaker 6: Yeah, you're too sweet. That's how I got on the show.
- 43:22Speaker 1: All right. So Jillian Anderson, when you see that confrontation,
- 43:26Speaker 1: the confrontation with the superfan, it's very flirty. It's very flirty.
- 43:31Speaker 1: Jillian Anderson is fantastic. I had the pleasure of meeting
- 43:34Speaker 1: her years ago at a party in Malibu. Oops, that's right.
- 43:38Speaker 1: I dropped the name. The way she's saying, oh, you
- 43:43Speaker 1: can't sit in the front row anymore. It's too distracting.
- 43:46Speaker 1: I tell you what, if she says that to me,
- 43:48Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, I'm going back tomorrow. She wants me there.
- 43:52Speaker 1: I got to be in the front row.
- 43:53Speaker 6: It's brilliant.
- 43:55Speaker 1: She's Hollywood royalty. She's fantastic. the way she can say
- 43:59Speaker 1: something and mean it in a different way. That's a
- 44:01Speaker 1: great actress. And I'm sure the show is great. And
- 44:03Speaker 1: I'm sure she loves those fans. And if I was them,
- 44:06Speaker 1: I'd go back every night, too.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Absolutely. Hey, speaking of royalty, let's turn to the real royals.
- 44:12Speaker 2: A report has found that two international paparazzi were caught
- 44:16Speaker 2: looking into Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet's school Royal insiders
- 44:21Speaker 2: are saying that this is only going to strengthen the
- 44:23Speaker 2: case for taxpayer funded security in the UK. Um, Michael, though,
- 44:28Speaker 2: I got to wonder, no one wants privacy and safety
- 44:30Speaker 2: at risk, but again, I don't know. It all feels
- 44:34Speaker 2: a little, just seems, feels a little convenient. I don't know.
- 44:37Speaker 2: What do you think? I'm being cynical.
- 44:40Speaker 1: No, I think you're, you're being realistic here. Cause I
- 44:44Speaker 1: was the same thing. Oh, isn't the timing odd on this? Uh,
- 44:48Speaker 1: And it's just sad that we live in a day
- 44:51Speaker 1: and age where kids aren't off limits. Like always, always
- 44:54Speaker 1: just leave the kids alone. And you shouldn't have taxpayer-funded security.
- 45:02Speaker 1: You shouldn't need it. And especially for like the royals.
- 45:06Speaker 1: The royals should be paying for their own kids' security.
- 45:09Speaker 1: And then my thoughts and prayers go out to whoever
- 45:12Speaker 1: that poor soul is that has to stand in an
- 45:15Speaker 1: elementary school Watching some royal kid try to learn how
- 45:20Speaker 1: to read.
- 45:22Speaker 2: That's a very hilarious image there. Michael, we're going to
- 45:26Speaker 2: have to leave it there. Thank you so much for
- 45:28Speaker 2: your time. It's been absolutely great to chat as always.
- 45:31Speaker 2: We'll speak again, Michael Loftus. Stick around because Late Edition
- 45:34Speaker 2: is next.