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Emerald FlowShow #88: A GLEAT Crisis · The Emerald FlowShow

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm jarred back with Paul and Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose this week, it's going to be a little different in our format.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't really have any much all of your parents to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to sprinkle in some other companies.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, basically, we literally just have like one talking about all Japan because they literally in the last two weeks ran zero shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zero shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So just quickly, we'll get that out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some stuff on human hands eye or speculation on human hands eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I read the translated interview of Anzai on Michelle's ProRes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: translation blog, which is a great resource if you're not familiar with it for lots of interviews in Puro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And upon reading it, I think he's actually doing like a movie or a TV, which also sort of jails with what Fukuda has been having the wrestlers do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been getting the movie roles and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that makes the most sense, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was kind of thinking that it was maybe going to do a Europe tour, but I feel like if he was doing that, he would have popped up already, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because he's only gone for two months and we're already kind of like in mid July already.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So like it's not that much time left for him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like I actually went to the GWF show on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was kind of lucky expecting him to pop up there and he didn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Jack Morris was on it but he wasn't so yeah so we've and he also didn't pop up anywhere else so yeah I definitely feel like a movie seems like the most likely thing because otherwise like like if he was injured or whatever he would just say that he's injured and he's just out for two months right so like he has to be doing something
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[SPEAKER_06]: And the fact that it seems like nothing visible, like it seems like, yeah, most likely it's like a movie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So everybody's on the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we won't know until it's like, until they like wrapped up the shooting and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I figured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he made the thing he would start on July first on his absence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I figured, okay, on July first, second or third or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He tweeted out a bunch of like gates if he was wrestling elsewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that never game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: got a little suspicious now my crazy idea and this is pure one hundred percent speculation but I was like maybe you got married and had a honeymoon they would not reveal that they're like twenty six year old
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[SPEAKER_01]: future ace, who's a handsome young man is getting married.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, that that also doing a bunch of like, yeah, we baiting with us all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, definitely not that they're going to reveal that he's married.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's going to come out and like ten years like that he has like two kids or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but that's one hundred percent pure speculation on my part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just trying to think like where he was, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: filming a movie or maybe even a TV show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the most scenario and also fits in with the company has been doing, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Kenton had that timing as well, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I mean, uh, honey moon is what, but like, you really go on your honey moon for two months.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's a long time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's a big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, like some time off or whatever for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, that was just speculation on my part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So before we get in, I'm just going to do a quick one-max recommendation from Big Japan on June twenty fifth in Sapporo in Penny Lane twenty four, which actually looks a lot like should keep a first ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The main event of Dachi Hashimoto and Hideo Shikomotani versus Masato Tanaka and UAAoki, pretty good little match there, worth checking out even with the truly bizarre camera angle that big Japan was using for that show, which is sort of like a single cam shot, but also very tilted upwards, but not quite a bird's eye view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know the one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They used that in Karkin where they basically shot the show from like they used that if you did you have to watch the Dyskasek motor versus Jeff Cobb match.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That at that kind of right there because they filmed that from like the balcony in Karkin and look really weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that match is on core right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've uploaded a couple of shows since the
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[SPEAKER_01]: strong client finals, but that was the only match that I thought looked of any interest that haven't gone through at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was like some other stuff, but it hasn't been uploaded yet that happened at the end of June.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm trying to like pay attention to being Japan now again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you still can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will talk about this later, but I think there's one company in the bigger shitter than Bigger Ann.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we move on then to DDT with their rock and ring, twenty-five play the strikes, show the cheers from yesterday, July, thirteenth at cork and hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DDT still not giving a tenancies, but this looked pretty full because, um, uh, Kai C to catch you was back on the show in the semi-main event.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Paul, how much of the show did you say?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, the top-free mattress.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So the university.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would say the top four max was the only thing that really bothered talking about except I would say that in the dark match Naomi Yoshimer has got himself into tremendous shape quite possibly the best shape of his career I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I will be looking forward to if they actually push him but he's been working like opening their duty upon since his return.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's rarely, like, I mean, it depends, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, it's been out for a while, they kind of put you there, but, you know, eventually, when I move out of that, but I mean, if you got himself in good shape, I think at least that would be a sign, they want to do something with them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would hope so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Chris Brooks, you're knocking on my guilty shadow, defeated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can, you know, you can't, you can't shoot an eight, twenty nine with a frog splash from Saddo on a sheet of, they seem to be high on Saddo and that was a solid little match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the three-way Mac to super-sustadago machine versus Dan Choco, Dino, and Kazuki Harada with four-and-a-teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with machine winning with a school boy, Harada, and then we got the announcement that Muscle Sakai will be facing Monoros Suzuki at one of the Peter Pan Knights in the fiftieth anniversary of the Muscle Sakai retirement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dino will be facing Hiroshi Taohashi on the second night of Peter Pan and Kork and Hall on August.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing two nights of Peter Pan this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One in what was it called Hina Shita Arena in Tokyo on the thirtyth and then a cork at Hall on the thirty first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're sort of spreading everything over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get into some of the other matches on that show coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special Secretary of Tegmach now cannon with Kim Hiro, Kim Hiro and Kazuma Sumi defeated Masashi Taketa Illuzha in her rotosakaraba in eleven ten with the Japanese leg roll clutch hold from Mal on Illusion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I continue to be impressed by Sakaraba, who's the other sort of celebrity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like some sort of actor, a stunt man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's come into DDT, works on matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unlike Kaisy to Kaisy, he's like, I mean, looking big guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But his power moves look really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's, I think, if he wanted to be a pro wrestler full-time, I think he'd do pretty well for himself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was probably a good guy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's the guy with the big arm, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the best of the unrecard matches I thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're getting into the sort of the top half of the card territory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a special tag match, Jose Fujita and Takashi Masada, Diffin Tori and Yuya Karoku in twelve twenty two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With the Masada note, Jakar Kobu, Miku, Muki Muki, Vaam from Masada on Karoku.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is a machino quadriver or the figure four machino quadriver, samurai driver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought the best part of the match is will the Fujita and the Toy exchanges.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that very Christmas avoid of Toy stepped up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is not a wrestler, but he's not particularly dynamic or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought he looked good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Fujita looked great, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And working with Toy really made Toy look good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, Chris Brooks came out and harassed Fujita with a puppet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what's the story behind this puppet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a puppet, like something you see at Sesame Street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And apparently Brooks just bought it drunk one night online.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, that's a good enough story for DVT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I mean, it's kind of holy ended up there, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and then Zack's favorite junior came out to a big but not massive pop for the IWGP world heavyweight champion And then I don't they chased Massada it broke around the ring a bit and then due to got the puppet in the through to cross the ring back or cross the ring back at Brooks and everything and so we're getting Fujita and Massada versus Fujita and Zeta's J on
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[SPEAKER_01]: The August thirty of Peter Pan show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think it would probably be one of the matches of the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, that one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No one has chance to be really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If everybody's motivated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DDT Universal title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an or a Suzuki defeated Shinya Aoki in fifteen, seventeen via referee stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, this match went too long and yeah, that's too long for Suzuki these days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to spill the match by brawling a whole bunch, which in the crowd now to be fair to Aoki he got some cuts cut on his back and took his he took some spills into the into the chairs and everything, but I don't know like the last couple minutes with the with the
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[SPEAKER_01]: These submissions was fine, not bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got the win with the referee stop, like the elbows to the head and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are a little finished, but it just dragged on and I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Mao's going to challenge Suzuki at Peter Pan, which I assume Mao's going to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he showed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very curious what Mao can get out of.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, these days that the thing like a couple of years ago that I would be like, yeah, that's gonna be a really good match these days.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, but like if they do a bit more brawling, I think that might work better with Mao because Mao is actually kind of pretty decent at plunder.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I could maybe see that be a bit better.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I actually have to say like for this match, like the thing that came to my mind was like, I actually like the like preview tag match that they did at the like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: previous core control, you know, the one that had like a Gucci versus Brooks.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like that preview attack.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I liked more than I'd like the actual like title match here because I thought that that was much more intriguing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You had like Suzuki kind of getting choked out and everything and here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was just kind of a lie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like I think especially because these guys like this one I actually would have been happy if they had just stuck to like
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[SPEAKER_06]: Matt work really, which I do think both of them are good at like I don't get why they had to like resort to the brawling we could have just done like a grappling match and just left it at that and maybe kind of like five minutes and I think it would have been perfectly good but yeah this for me like in the middle it just dragged like so badly and
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this wasn't a big fan of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So special six man tag match, Uki Yueno, Akito and Kaising Takachi defeated Daisuke Sasaki, Daki Okotani and MJ Paul of everyone's favorite unit, Demation TA and eleven forty with the BME from Yueno on Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now of all of Takachi's like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six man tags.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were bits of really good ones, but I thought this was the weakest because you had Sasaki and Paul in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But my god, that Takeshi flying spring swan die four arm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is duty though.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like he is like AJ Styles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, he's another guy with like if he wanted to be full-time, you know, like what I've seen of him, like he seems to be a natural, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was still a fine little match, but you know, you had the damnation TA being damaged in the middle of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was kept relatively short.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's the weakest of the Takeshi matches that he's had.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But he's over like crazy with the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they filled their cork it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, but to be fair, I feel like the like the like a Gucci words broke cork and lots of look like it had like got attendance.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's just we can't compare it to because we don't know what either of them true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then main event for the KOD overweight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: title because the side of Higuchi defeated Hirashima on sixteen fifty five with the claw brain claw flam to make his first defense of the title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won four stars on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was great, but not like outstanding max the year level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if we had this like two, three years ago, even it would be better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that Hirashima if we go like peak Hirashima.
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[SPEAKER_01]: out of ten, he's like still in eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But mind you, this man is fifty one years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's still in, well, pro wrestler at fifty one years old, and this was still a great match though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it wasn't quite as dynamic as I was sort of expecting, but I mean, it was still very hard hitting and, you know, great finishing sequence teasing Horash of a win, and then he goes to just lock it in that claw.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think I actually liked this a lot more like I I'm honestly debating between like four point two five and four point five like I thought this was really really good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I agree that it's not peak a rush anymore but like like I constantly
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[SPEAKER_06]: Keep make sense because I think he kind of started around the same time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like I constantly keep putting him into like the same like cohort as like like guys like Mara Fuji for example and then I keep forgetting it's like no, no, he's much older than Mara Fuji and he's much he's in so much better shape than Mara Fuji is
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you were a pretty wild dial too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, that's not like he was taking it easy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was literally the guy like carrying like the work grade side off like DDT for like, I mean, at this point, like close to like a quarter of a century, which is insane.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, but I thought this was still really good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought the structure was just like, don really well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He Gucci's just this monster and you could just get like very brief like Hirashima like hopes but before like he Gucci just like reasserts his dominance.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, that finish was just a thing of beauty.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like, like, that's literally like a serial killer finish.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what they did here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, like, Hirashima gets like to pin and like he gets like a very close near fall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But then asked to Gucci's kicking out, he just grabs Hirashima, like, just muscles him up and just hits the claws.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me immediately and pin some for the win.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like that, that I think that was my favorite finish of the year so far.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like that was just completely awesome.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, I get where you're coming from, maybe it was like peak Russian, but I think like what did, did still work so well, that for me, like I just thought it was like, maybe I might be getting towards like the bottom half of my top ten for the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna have to see how it actually shakes out, but it definitely will be in consideration.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, Junaki and I came out to challenge and he even decked a Gucci and had Gucci sold it like he got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Knocked out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, go, groggy and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen is on the August thirty, if it's going to be Higuchi versus Akiyama.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the thirty first, we'll be with the winner of that match versus the winner of a battle royal on July, sixteenth, that one of the beer garden shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be back to back title defenses, which I dislike as a booking thing, but it's DDT and everything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, in August, before Peter Pan, there's going to be another, like I can't remember what the Mac format is, but it's going to be like right to check one of those right to challenge anywhere any time things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So be mindful of that at Peter Pan too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just hope they give for good to like a big long reign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I respect your come out of Peter Pansoach.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I feel like like like this feels like his big long term reign to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like being a rationalist, the first offensive and immediately going to Akiyama, you know, it's like like it's two guys you can like basically you like established that like he's gonna get a run and you don't have to like give up any of the young guys like you don't have to like
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like you don't have to, like, you know, enter the fence like earlier on or like, ma or whatever that you probably want to like save for like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: in a couple of months or whatever, that's when you want to be those matches.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You don't want to do them right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's good because I think DDT has been one of the underrated companies of twenty twenty five, because you've got a Gucci back in the mix and then you've got the astronauts, or you had the astronauts with their tag title.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I actually talked about that on a shameless plug on the half year of watch.
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[SPEAKER_06]: on wrestling on my car say, where about a DDT is like the number free promotion of the year.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because like it's just incredibly solid, but to do like even before like a Gucci came back, I think, you know, like they've just quietly just kind of done like a really well job and it don't really get talked about all that much, but like it's whenever I like tune a DDT, I'm like, I never really walk away like I wasted my time basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sometimes I feel like that like what I will do is I'll put the undercar on the background and then maybe like halfway through the show start really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I mean, but that's always been the case of DDT because the issue start early in my time zone like often like this start started at ten thirty at night right and often like, you know, even their big shows will be in the afternoon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: bigger than cork and shows would be in the afternoon, so it's just like, ah, and then it's like, I look up and then I see super sassy doggo machine doing a PowerPoint presentation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, well, yeah, back to whatever else I'm doing for like another hour.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then you can, yeah, when you see like, oh, I know coming out, it's like, okay, time to pay attention.
20:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And then one other big note here, before the show started, a new rookie was unveiled, who will be making his debut on August Circus, and that is Hinata Kassai.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, that's right.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a son of June Kassai.
20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, look, I'm just going to be blunt with this.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you use Paul, would you say that Japanese professional wrestling is the least, least, nepotistic of all professional wrestling anywhere in the world?
21:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's in some ways, yes, but it's more so because the sun's are always kind of bad.
21:17
[SPEAKER_06]: like there is a lot of nepotism going on because a lot of these guys only have spots because of who that that is like there's no way it is still would be like hanging around I mean and also if we're talking about nepotism we just need to look at the largest Japanese promotion
21:32
[SPEAKER_06]: where a guy has been like getting a portion of potentially, I don't know.
21:37
[SPEAKER_06]: I know people are saying that like the promotion has given up on him, I don't believe that I think he might be winning the G-One.
21:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I, you know, show the umino is where he is because it's that as a head rush.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it's maybe, I've heard of what I can do.
21:54
[SPEAKER_06]: pushing people to the top because of who their dad is.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: To be fair though, if you looked at young shoulder, like when he was fallen marks around and everything like that, you're like, that's that's a guy you want to get behind.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely absolutely.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that like, it's not a last year or something.
22:10
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, it's not that bad.
22:11
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, absolutely not like people
22:13
[SPEAKER_06]: people kind of go a bit over the top end, come to Shota Umino.
22:17
[SPEAKER_06]: But like, he's like, this way worse, like, nepotism cases.
22:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I argue, like, he's also, like, better than, like, Dachi Hashimoto was early on.
22:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, Hashimoto has gotten better, but like, beyond, he was like, really rough.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Dachi Hashimoto is a perfectly solid wrestler.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I was saying, and like, for that big, you can ask her watch.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, how show effort is like pretty good.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: these days.
22:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, remember, Chad Beakardville, twenty-nineteen when he is just a lazy bum.
22:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, yeah.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so his default has has greatly improved.
22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess we'll have, I will sort of practice out that right now Dragon Gate is really experimenting with the suns, the suns.
23:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But that remains to be seen because none of them obviously have stepped up to be like main, you know.
23:08
[SPEAKER_06]: And I mean, I would say, I mean, much as a kid junior is absolutely somebody.
23:12
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't like, I mean, nepotism, yes, but also he's really, really fucking good.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, so it brings to be seen with like, strong machine J and all that and it shouldn't.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will just say, I was thinking about this yesterday, and I'm like, well, I think technically, catch your Shabbata is
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The most successful second generation wrestler in the top of my head.
23:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm trying to think of somebody else that is like a really obvious second generation guy.
23:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
23:41
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's I think that's the first statement.
23:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Let them forgetting someone really obvious.
23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very different than the United States of Mexico.
23:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no.
23:49
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean Mexico is by far the most nepotism.
23:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that's like nepotism is like literally like a key carrying pillar of like lucha.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's interesting in the states is that a lot of the sons have surpassed their or end daughters have surpassed their parents.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: In that turn of level, right?
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, you know, Randy Orton, as much as it's easy to bag on.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's a bigger star than his dad.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, Bob Arten.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Brett Hart, even although this is very different when Stuart was a wrestler, but still, you know, and you could go on about that, you know, you can go on, you know.
24:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to think about Europe right now, but there aren't too many, like guys that really broke out.
24:34
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, like, the obvious one that I'm thinking of is obviously like, actually the junior, because his dad was like an actual, like, I mean,
24:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that again, depends how you measure success, right?
24:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Because Accidated Senior was like, obviously, like, like a really big local legend and a son, like, managed to like go to the US or whatever, but it's not like he's had like a blowaway career in WWE.
24:57
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah.
24:59
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a bit of a tough one.
24:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Then in tech, Vaxe Bajrunya is a fake junior.
25:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Like there is no Zack Sabas in your.
25:06
[SPEAKER_06]: So he doesn't count.
25:07
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I'm trying to think if I'm thinking from forgetting anybody else that's like a second generation guy in Europe.
25:13
[SPEAKER_06]: probably is somebody I'm forgetting, but yeah.
25:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, in Europe it's more of a case that just aren't really many like second generation guys.
25:20
[SPEAKER_06]: So I guess by default then from like the bigger markets, it wins competitive by just not having any.
25:29
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I kind of get your point because yes, it's definitely much more of a case of like
25:33
[SPEAKER_06]: In Lutra, it's like if you don't have like any kind of nepotism, it's even if you're really talented, it's going to be really hard to get anywhere in in the US, if you have like a dad who was in the business.
25:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that's basically like that's at least going to get your push to the midcard and potentially to like a title at least.
25:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Whereas in Japan, it gets your roster spot and sometimes not even, I mean, Leona's a really good example, right?
25:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, try and find a bigger legend than, you know, like, his dad, and he's still only managers to like, get on like, in these shows because he's bad.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is DDT.
26:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think, I think, I think in DDT, because I will have a decent shot.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And he'll think of Srimon as talent.
26:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
26:24
[SPEAKER_06]: It actually made me realize that I forgot that just like Hirashima, Drunkasize one of those guys that is much older than I always think he is.
26:31
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, yeah, Drunkasize also fifty.
26:34
[SPEAKER_06]: So it makes sense that he actually has a son that is now wrestling, kind of created to think about it.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I would suspect.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We might be saying, because this is not the trend, right?
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I suspect we'll see some more kids.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we can get everything, maybe five, ten years from now, it will be a very different scene.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to have a parent that was a famous wrestler.
26:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
26:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I mean, who knows how to warm a son's like for Polka Rea's going?
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
27:05
[SPEAKER_06]: That's because I feel like whenever that one is over, he just has like an automatic like entry ticket to the old Rependo Joe.
27:12
[SPEAKER_06]: It just has to show up.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like soccer is not the the best sport to become then become a pro wrestler.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Better than basketball.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's DVT and so there's a lot to look forward there.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we'll go back to our regularly more regularly scheduled programming and we got a few Noah shows to begin.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So we begin with
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: to do, so we began with WrestleMania twenty twenty five on that was on June thirty at that.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Shinagawa Prince Hotel stellar ball.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do an attendance for this, but this place only held, I think, like, seven fifty or something when I was coming up.
27:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it didn't look empty.
27:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I will say that.
27:54
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's, I mean, it's definitely a notable step down from last year's vessel magic.
27:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think anybody can deny that.
28:02
[SPEAKER_06]: like to go.
28:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll also, yeah, I mean, a and size of when you but also be in terms of show quality.
28:10
[SPEAKER_06]: This was not nearly as good as last year's resume.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd also argue that this did feel that special.
28:17
[SPEAKER_06]: No, it felt like a household plus.
28:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Barely, you know, it's just like, yeah.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like the way that no saw what tried to hype it up.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he tried to damn this to like hype this one up.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we begin with, um, the opening mattress is Keno Kenton, Kususaki defeating Masaki mochizuki, Shudji Kano and Titus Alexander and eight thirteen with the horizontal cradle from Kenton Alexander.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, this is some more time to cook, you know, but again, I'm for what it was, but I was just like, oh, come on.
28:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, with these three guys, you go under ten minutes.
28:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Come on.
28:57
[SPEAKER_06]: That's criminal.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And then next was, you keep to Cosa and we go water defeating Great Sequoia in Johnny Robby in a ten and thirty with the ray on from a water on Robby.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: We got water actually pinning somebody and not getting pins, but I thought again.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: This was good, but again, I will give Sakuya more props for toning the character down because I thought she looked really good here and I am starting to get into great Sakuya.
29:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, yeah, it was solid.
29:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, it was solid.
29:33
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was kind of nothing special.
29:35
[SPEAKER_06]: I liked it more than a previous match because I mean, it just not that little bit more time to kind of cook a little bit more.
29:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah, with greater career.
29:43
[SPEAKER_06]: She's definitely not as like because she was really like the character was really bad early on like and now I think it's kind of found like a good equilibrium.
29:53
[SPEAKER_06]: were like the match quality is like okay now but it's still no I don't know it's still not like somebody I'm like oh they definitely need to like keep this character around because now I'm also like well why like why is she here because it also doesn't seem like they built this like I thought the goal was to like build this like Jade C women's title around her eventually but that doesn't appear to be the case so I don't know like what's this character for no basically yeah for sure
30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had three way match your hay defeating Amasca and Archie Cole when your hay pinned Cole with the drop kick.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, only seven minutes solid little match.
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I have become a Archie Cole guy.
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's not much more to say about it.
30:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
30:40
[SPEAKER_06]: I gave him the number free spot on my like rookie of the year list.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the GHE Hardcore title, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi,
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: somehow the plunder forced her out, it's like do things.
31:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, it couldn't just do like it's normal like boring slow work.
31:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I actually like, you know, used to weapons and everything, but like for me, I agree it's not as bad as it could have been, but like I said, I just have not been a fan of these like hardcore title matches because to me, it just like sub par bloodless death matches.
31:33
[SPEAKER_06]: So I just can't get them to different.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they also have to like because you're like in a company like no, so it's like you really got to lead into the plunder like just do the plunder for the sake of a plunder in ways that Yeah, you don't even do in like a big Japan death match if that makes sense Yeah, there's no escalation yet.
31:51
[SPEAKER_06]: It's no escalation of violence
31:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just kind of you just have to weapons and you use them and it doesn't escalate really to to like that next level and it also doesn't help that like because they're like Monday magic exclusive.
32:04
[SPEAKER_06]: They also like to go away for like six months at a time and then they bring them back.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is fine because also though I don't want this title on regular shows.
32:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, you know what actually that's fair.
32:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd rather also just if it just stays in its own little world.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fine.
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we have
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, look, in this way, we know that hiad is not going to be winning the junior title anytime soon.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe I don't know.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess we'll fight down.
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But I, then next up, Alpha Wolf, Dragon Bane and Luis Monte, defeated Galeno.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a Honda and Kai Fujimar and a Legend of Forty-Two with the MCK from Monte on Fujimar.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say this was one of the best matches of the show.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, you know, your go-go, go six man.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: perfect wine that I've been forty two and everything like that.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought this was a nice palette concert.
32:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, no.
32:57
[SPEAKER_06]: It's also very noticeable that like Monte has like a lot of experience working like these kind of six months obviously like, you know, like because they do that in Dragon Gate very regularly.
33:07
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think I think she actually him alpha wolf and bane make a really really good trio.
33:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I would actually like to see them like
33:15
[SPEAKER_06]: work together like more regular, either no-or and dragon gate, because I think, you know, like I think those three have like a really, really great like triing the gate rate in them.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up is could they be in triangle gate territory.
33:32
[SPEAKER_06]: But, um, well, I'm just going to manage just one the triangle gate, so like that's not going to happen, but yeah, although
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What's our type somewhat from Noah?
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Dragon Gate?
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more like that.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like I'll throw both in Dragon Bay and we're just there like.
33:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, were they owned?
33:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did Dragon Bay and got like that's where he got the concussion.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking with that because they were working on your pan again.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that makes sense.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, sending me an event for the GHC woman's championship to Kumi Aroha defeated Victoria, Yuzuki in Thirteen-O-Fort with the running three.
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a pretty solid match.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Although, also very dominant Aroha win.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like three and a half, three and three quarter range.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think this was just really just a set up because after the match, Tommy High asked she to came out to challenge.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's obviously where this title is going.
34:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, which I was like, okay, I was happy that it's not only raw, so like, I mean, it was immediately obvious that, you know, like, the quality of the title matches went up like significantly.
34:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, nothing blow away here but solid, but yeah, to me the most important thing is that I like, yeah, that is actually going to have a chance of being an excellent match.
34:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that title match, I mean, whenever that, like, did they actually announce a date for it?
34:54
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't so.
34:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it would be a shame when like they set this up and it's not gonna happen until like the next like season of Monday magic.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know if it's necessarily happening in Noah because Mara Gold, they've got a Super Hall show and I can't remember when it is.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be on.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And that feels like
35:12
[SPEAKER_06]: given the marvellous versus marigolds feud that seems like something that you'd say for that but maybe not I don't know and you don't setting that up now if you're doing it in October like you're not setting that up in July like not as the challenge over but I mean regardless of where it happens I will watch it yeah I mean that will a great match yeah
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the main event with all the multiple promotions and pause only for the fifth was just a card for the.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know I thought that too, but as it turns out that is.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you had.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Cardo Kimi, right?
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you are returning to know it.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can, uh, you can, oh, I know, and you can, or Shioca, defeating Yoshihashi Kai, Akito, and take it Abba in seventeen, fifty-one.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Keonea, Keomea, and Anaba, and my God, that losing team.
36:03
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so enveloped.
36:04
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like when she's this Christ, you might as well have named them team winner and team loser.
36:11
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's how on the nose this was.
36:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Paul, sorry, update.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Top versus Tacumi, July, sixteenth, double title managed.
36:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, so that's into this.
36:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, yeah, that goes on to the, onto the watch list immediately.
36:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that's a, that's a live stream as well.
36:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, so that's.
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm, I'm trying to think we got the Margo versus Marvel's food going on.
36:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And she just, I don't know, I think I really might be winning, you know,
36:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and then you do the rematch, like on the Sumo Hotel, whatever.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, say what you will about Rossio Gawa, but when he's in an intro promotional feud, you will get the other company get big wins with their smaller than him.
36:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:53
[SPEAKER_06]: which is smart because then your guys like you push up the business like yeah maybe you look a little bit weak at first but then your guys are going to come back on the big show and vanquish the bad guys and that's how you get your heat back in an even bigger way like yeah you sacrifice oh no we lost on a curtain but then we went on the sumo hall show
37:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Which, you know, that's exactly how you do it.
37:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's kind of how did it to highization go on like few as well.
37:19
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like, it's just kind of like, like the UW, like, on like the new Japan UWF feud, right?
37:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, like, yeah, new Japan one on the big show that that's where you win, like you give up stuff on the small show then you win on the big show.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, new Japan barely gave up things on the small show.
37:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
37:37
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But like that's how not to book an interpromotional feud that runs out of steam relatively.
37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of think a real hell will win that.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this match.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was a pretty good match.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it probably was the best match for the show.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though I totally expected the team to win.
37:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, yes, I mean, like the moment they stood, I was like, yeah, I was like, I'm going to like bet all of my money on the Kiomea team.
38:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Like this, this is just so complete and like hilariously unbalanced.
38:09
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, take, okay, if you're being technical, the loser team had two firmable champions on it.
38:16
[SPEAKER_06]: But like, come on.
38:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Kai and Diky and Ava.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know that they did a pretty good job of making, we were feeling like a big deal.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is something that Neudupan has been doing very well.
38:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
38:35
[SPEAKER_06]: That's that's why my argument was like if he loses to Fale, but that was like before Fale, like had to leave.
38:42
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like if they put Fale over him, I was like he should just jump back to Noah because Neudupan very obviously has no fucking idea what to doing with him.
38:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was Russell Magic, which was like not a bad show, but I just, I don't expect it more from it.
38:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
38:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, to be fair, I was always like, I mean, last year's was a paper view and everything, right?
39:05
[SPEAKER_06]: But still, like, I would have expected a bit more than just like a house show essentially with like a little bit of extra stuff and some fancy guests in the minimum.
39:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
39:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So we go on to show for the twentyth anniversary, Shinjuku face on
39:21
[SPEAKER_01]: July, through the third front of four hundred and three fans, I only saw, okay, so I want to next the first batch of the show I watched was decking out with the feeding deck you'll to Sheem in a level no one with the Katario passion hold.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'll always make time for like a deck you'll to Sheem a match against a veteran.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was solid match.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: What can I say?
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd to me.
39:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume is the rookie the year.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just love watching all of his matches.
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I did know Mitchie Marfucci will cruise in Amos, Amosca and drew to me a walk in the feeding Kaito Kiemia, Galano, Alejandro, Kai Fujimar in a love of five six with the cruise control from cruise on Alejandro, which is a solid little way to introduce cruise and then
40:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not watch Shaxon Huxon, I had a person that I was sorry, and you're okay.
40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I did unfortunately.
40:06
[SPEAKER_06]: How was that?
40:08
[SPEAKER_06]: And not very good to be honest.
40:09
[SPEAKER_06]: It was kind of what you expected us to beat.
40:12
[SPEAKER_06]: It was also like, I don't know.
40:15
[SPEAKER_06]: It just, it really was just there to like set up like hired and you're here and it was just boring otherwise.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Osawa Takashi Sagar and Dog at the feet of Kenna, Kenta and Okasansaki in twenty one fifty five one.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Osawa pinned Kenna with the real rebel and with one exception that I'll talk about later Paul for a certain reason.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting kind of bored of these team two thousand ex six bands on the house show.
40:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're very similar.
40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this obviously had, I mean, it was fine, but then you know, get the, that takes over with your sheet, a tattoo.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, you want to read anything too, was all our putting cano before their title match?
40:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, you think maybe that cano has a chance?
40:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
40:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe, I mean, it does.
41:00
[SPEAKER_06]: So doing like a lot of like heavy stuff for it's like, I mean, to be fed as a lot of shots being traded back and forth, right?
41:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Like what cano's like, oh, yeah, I found those hours like,
41:09
[SPEAKER_06]: mother or whatever and she says he's a loser and then Kennell and then was I was like I it's like basically it's like implying that like Kennell is a supper whatever well that okay so he put out a picture of a woman sitting on Kennell on all fours yeah
41:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that was funny.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I do like that.
41:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Ozawa social media game.
41:34
[SPEAKER_06]: It's yes.
41:35
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.
41:35
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like that.
41:36
[SPEAKER_06]: That's why I feel like maybe we're like with all of that social media.
41:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I think it's more focused on that than like the actual mattress.
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But I, I still, I don't see kind of winning like, well, to be fair, regardless of my feelings on team two thousand acts, I think they're willing this to push Ozawa hard, like even pitting his challenger before.
41:55
[SPEAKER_06]: says to me that I think it was all we could still win because of how hard they're pushing him and I think that's still the most likely scenario because to me like I think he's holding a title for the rest of the year like I think he's getting the full year and I know there's a like generate for if he does lose the title to canal
42:11
[SPEAKER_01]: How much longer do you think team two doesn't exist?
42:14
[SPEAKER_06]: I could see them like collapsed pretty quickly.
42:18
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I could actually see them maybe like reconstitute and like a different like heel faction.
42:22
[SPEAKER_06]: I could see them maybe like then like turning or I could almost see them turning like Osaba face and like the fall essentially.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's what I was going to say and then Osawa chases as the face.
42:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I could see him when like the end one or something actually well, maybe not the end one, but then yeah, like actually like like I think regardless of if he keeps the title or not, I think he's in the title match.
42:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Generally, first either way.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
42:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we probably get an end one announcement on this cork in show.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we should be getting close.
42:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then the main event for the GSC, junior heavyweight team championship, Dragon Bay and Alpha Wolf,
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Defeat Tedosca in a water sentence, sixteen thirteen with the Santa Maria from Bane on a water song.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still, it was good, but also fell victim to the team, two thousand X format because it was a little different.
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they ripped the masks at, you know, whereas I'm expecting with let's go, but Doris like the go-go thing.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think this was necessarily the best work.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It was solid and I still, but I was going to say with this match, I'm still like, you know, finally stalking a lot of sun.
43:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, definitely.
43:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think somewhat cutting cap back a little bit by the gimmick right now.
43:39
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think what you see of there of like his like otherwise, like his fundamentals, I think it's still really good.
43:44
[SPEAKER_06]: I think we won't really see like what he can actually do until he like, it's like a actually fully out of like young boy mode.
43:52
[SPEAKER_06]: And like, he's like in a different gimmick essentially.
43:56
[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, this match, that was actually my point as well as with like the mask ripping and everything.
44:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think that also kept drag and paint and also bowls like, like, more corrupt because you can't really do your flips all that well anymore of your mask is kind of like slapping around because it like impacts your vision a bit.
44:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, so I think that also kind of like ground to like match like a slower pace as well.
44:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
44:21
[SPEAKER_06]: And it wasn't bad.
44:22
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just like, yeah, as you said, like, I'm so used to these guys just flying all over the place and that just
44:29
[SPEAKER_06]: wasn't what this match was, and it was just, it was fine.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was that show.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Paul, did you see anything on the sixth joystick?
44:40
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I did not see anything on that show.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very, very like, this is a no a splash.
44:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was just, I looked at the card, I was like, I'm gonna get to that later before we record.
44:54
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I never got around to it.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we jump to the twelfth at your homeradian hall.
45:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I watched three matches from the show because I wanted to see Jun Timmy walkie defeat countless in ten minutes with the epinones, a style, fucking arrow.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to say, Paul, I thought this was a very solid match.
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, did you see it?
45:17
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't I wasn't really all that impressed to be honest.
45:22
[SPEAKER_06]: I think I live with a bit sloppy.
45:24
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought he was like
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: a perfectly fine little Ricardo.
45:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but to me, it also feels like we've seen so many of these kinds of loot traders that get like a tour of Noah and then we just never see them again.
45:37
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm like hesitant to invest any kind of attention in the mental I know that he's actually going to come back.
45:43
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's also like he's also compared to most of the other loot traders that he that they bring in.
45:48
[SPEAKER_06]: He's a bit on the other side as well.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is.
45:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
45:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
45:53
[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know how much more like we're going to get out of this guy.
45:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Like not that it was bad, but I was just like, yeah, I thought there was a match for Junta was just very clearly the better worker as well.
46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was something that Junta needed.
46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the next question.
46:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, for sure that that he actually got like an actual like dominant rather than like being like the like underdog like guy, right?
46:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Like that he actually got like winning with a win.
46:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, wait, wait, he was very clearly the better guy both in K-fade.
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I watched the semi-main, which is Tetsuya, and it will cruise in Ada to feed and kind of keep me a Galileo and Alejandro.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And cruise one with the moons, Alejandro, and thirteen, twenty-one.
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is all about setting it up.
46:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that match happened yesterday, but will not be uploaded until July, sixteenth.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sorry.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to lean it up with you.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's a deep rope, but apparently deep broke during.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to see what happened here.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I like crews.
47:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked them every time.
47:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the first time I was on the Noah UK.
47:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he was a good idea to bring in and everything like that.
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this was a little match to set this up.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, for the main event, it was Osawa, Daga, Tadasuke, and a Wattisand defeating Kenil Kenta, Lucas Asaki, Deki, and Deki Otashima.
47:20
[SPEAKER_01]: In sixth year four, with the back slide from a Wattisand on Otashima.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I said that I do not like these team, two thousand ex six bands are I'm growing or six and eight man tags.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going wearing them.
47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this one better than the recent ones I've seen because I thought that Otashima brought
47:38
[SPEAKER_01]: some juice to this and I thought the finishing sequence was a lot of fun.
47:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I actually also really like like the post match when it just started like brawling like crazy all over the place.
47:49
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that added some like I think like much need like oh well it it really like expressed the heat that they've been building up on social media much more than like the other preview tag that they did.
48:00
[SPEAKER_06]: like that was like that that felt like there was some actual like hate there and everything.
48:05
[SPEAKER_06]: So which I feel like it's appropriate if you're like trading extremely personal bars with each other.
48:13
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, I think yeah, I agree that like Odyssey might like add it some much into the energy to the match as well.
48:19
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like because Kenon Kenton, Alka, like I think they are a good trio.
48:25
[SPEAKER_06]: But they get the kind of need in a way they need a lost post.
48:30
[SPEAKER_06]: It needs someone like Dikeyoda Schema.
48:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, that's the reason why for example, Dragon Gate always has a lost post in their factions because it's a necessary guy because I think it makes the match as better as well because you always have that feeling of dread when they're in the ring, right?
48:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Which you won't really have if you have Kenokentan, Augusta Sarky, who are all pushed to some degree.
48:52
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, I thought it just helped them match so much more.
48:55
[SPEAKER_06]: And I would say I think like out of the Noah matches that we watched that we forged.
49:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I think this is like the best Noah match.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
49:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Out of the spatch, basically.
49:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I think it was better than anything on Western Magic.
49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I know if I go that far, but it was definitely up there.
49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd give it maybe number two or three.
49:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
49:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, the only other one I would consider is that the the the the Luchess six man.
49:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, so yeah, like that's that's how you got to do these things because these team, two thousand acts, multi man's are getting dreadfully for.
49:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
49:33
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... so uh... going ahead i think we're talking about the show on the ninety that cork and there's nothing more that was added except we got now meeting our food and deco to some of which is content due to me a walkie which i'm actually quite looking forward to uh... uh... you know it's a main event is kind of when it was all about and then you'll head high at a and uh... you know some team two thousand ex-verses uh... all rebellion so jack morris's back tattis get a lot of sand and acts of work forgot oh yeah we're gonna have a new year
50:02
[SPEAKER_01]: versus Katokimia, Galeno, her Tokyo and Alejandro.
50:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have any idea of who Axis.
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's just someone on the roster that's turning.
50:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's go.
50:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, maybe.
50:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Or maybe it's someone completely new.
50:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
50:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't be opposed to that.
50:18
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I hope I don't.
50:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I hope it's not somebody turning again.
50:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Could be what if it's you, man.
50:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
50:26
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.
50:26
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like the first possible thing that you could do.
50:31
[SPEAKER_06]: And you could do like it is just like goes and joins team to thousand eggs for like a month and a half and then comes back to an algebra.
50:40
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, with you.
50:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So also, Noah announced Russell Odyssey on Saturday, October eleven that
50:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Sumo Hall.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And so someone say that they have opened up more tickets for this at the beginning of the sale period that they did for the last Sumo Hall show.
51:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So make of that why you will.
51:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you think is happening on that show?
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, probably have something a big plan, right?
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, given that the N one is in September, that's got to be where the winner is challenging, right?
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But is it part of the regular Noah Canon or is it like, uh, you should be part of the regular Noah Canon, but I'm not completely sure about that.
51:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, because if it's like the, like, well, like resumetric, right, where it's like a, uh, a resumetric show.
51:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, which I don't know if they would, I put then again, they have don't really see title matches on resumetric before.
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:48
[SPEAKER_06]: So look like that would be unprecedented.
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So at so once the n-one ends on this camera, twenty-third the only show this four shows in asked for October three of them are Monday magic extreme see which is what the next one's called which are all which eba which is interesting.
52:05
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be all bit around hiata.
52:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And then just the rest of Odyssey.
52:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what's happening there.
52:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
52:12
[SPEAKER_06]: So I mean, in that case, yeah, they have to have like a big like you can't run to Mohal with like a really big map.
52:18
[SPEAKER_06]: So they have to have something planned, especially if they are selling more like tickets like so could be see like another like return of like, um, not come around that one.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's uh, that would be a good spot for him for sure.
52:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so, oh, just an update on, um, I'll Japan's cork in this Thursday, which is main evented by Sekiyoshioka versus Ryzen Kado and the tag time max stood from the top.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Tickets don't seem to be selling that one.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
52:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that max placement was very interesting too.
52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: They basically, hey, they punted this cork in because they decided to have the Tribal Crown match in, or swap a number two, Eddie on two.
53:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
53:03
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, and also, like, you don't have you, my hands, I own it, so that's probably like all of his fans aren't going to be there.
53:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
53:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
53:10
[SPEAKER_06]: So we'll see.
53:11
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you basically, with, like, telling them you, my hands, I isn't going to be there and, like, put, like, secondary mat, like you.
53:17
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you essentially told your friends to not go almost.
53:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
53:20
[SPEAKER_06]: You, like, you told them it's like, yeah, this one is safe to skip.
53:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So that almost brings us to the end of the show, but we have a big topic to talk about to finish the show on.
53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about some great.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while, but they decided to put their fourth anniversary show free on YouTube because I have had no compulsion to a for their streaming service.
53:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They did this at Tokyo City Hall in Galleries, Go Tando, and Drew, through a hundred and forty fans, which they said was a supernova.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a simple house, but
53:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I mean, sure.
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sitting hall anniversary show.
53:57
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's also like, like, this is like announcing a supernova.
54:02
[SPEAKER_06]: You can see full holes in the Yoko Hima Radiant Hall, like cool, like, congratulations.
54:06
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not to unpack in the show and it's after math.
54:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But first let's begin.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't see the show.
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did not.
54:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be quick because I don't know much to say about the other card.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll lend him in.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So opening that element tag in our Edo, in order to knock it if you did some of us, and I'll be judging JD Lee in talk with you for with the German Superx holds from Lindenman on Lee.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very solid opener.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was good.
54:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I like all those guys.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we go to the G Rush title, which I had never actually seen before because nobody has.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Except Mike Spears.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sales.
54:48
[SPEAKER_01]: uh defeated at brass nickels dune in four twenty two with a hurricane ride to make a six defense and there was not much to this match and my god what they've done to uh june tantra yeah actually that was like a guy I was like man I wanted like well how this guy's career is going to go and I ran into the toilet away went oh yeah and there's and uh and then we got cutters who can quite start defeating rocker was socky and kai chi sato in sixty six with the fifty three centimeter arm larry from
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: storm on Sato again nothing to this match and then we had the triple love hawk with Kazuma Sakamoto versus M&M best pros which is Mason mentor Valianaki and Mesa Riga
55:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And they defeated T-Hoc, real A-Taka, Michiko, and Kazuma Sakamoto in ten, thirty-two with a dolphin press.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: From Suruga, Michiko, this is the comedy match you suppose.
55:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, M&M was also working big Japan.
55:42
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I did see them on the DDT show, but.
55:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
55:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it seems like I mean, to be fair, these two are like big wrestling, fucking nerds.
55:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
55:52
[SPEAKER_06]: So I am not surprised if they basically are like, oh, we're just going to work all of the promotions.
55:59
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't even really give a shit.
56:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, if you put like how much it impails, we just kind of want to like, you know what?
56:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like this feels like genuinely dangerous to want to do this.
56:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, for sure.
56:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Because why the fact else would you want to be like, yeah, we're going to work like big Japan, you know?
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: They did also.
56:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, oh, this show is on core.
56:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can watch it.
56:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't watch it.
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But I might go back because it's like they defeat at Kira and the MLW at Kira and Marihanna in thirteen thirty four or thirteen thirty seven.
56:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can go back and watch out if you are so inclined to do so.
56:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that was kind of funny though at the same thing.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe matches in Japan, DDT great and then big Japan.
56:43
[SPEAKER_06]: See, but if they were really wrestling notes, they would have also wrote Q-Supro, Q-Supro, and like Osaka, it's a really they have to come back and do this again.
56:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Q-Supro would seem like ideal for them.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And then G. Pro Wrestling Special Tag Math and Great and Triple H Schema.
57:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it.
57:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's, it's not.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't good, but it also was in his bad as I thought it was going to be.
57:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, how was Alberto's effort left here?
57:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not bad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I fully expect him to come into Japan, work a front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front front
58:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I thought I saw the trouble when he had to match with Vikingo, where he turned to like the biggest baby face because the crowd hates Vikingo now.
58:13
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
58:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I forgot to mention, did you see these were a match in NXT?
58:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I didn't get it.
58:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, actually I did.
58:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I did actually.
58:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll see.
58:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do it after.
58:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so uh, then for the, okay, so the show finally picks up.
58:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you finish the title?
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Pack it here.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a moron.
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying on it's so good if you did to do it.
58:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Is Uchi and so dimage in twenty thirty four with a Tamashi no shooting star press from on it.
58:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Suka on his Uchi to make their second defense the titles and Paul.
58:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I would go second best match with the show.
58:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Very good fast-paced action.
58:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little long, but you know, all of these four guys are really great.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll be seeing later fine.
58:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that later.
58:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:58
[SPEAKER_06]: I would just say just very quick, very selfless of on it's so good to like get the win and keep the title.
59:03
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an authoritarian match.
59:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
59:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, yeah.
59:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was like, okay, so these companies can be pretty good.
59:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought.
59:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
59:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just, if you watch the top two matches, this is fine.
59:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all you need to do.
59:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the main event for the G-Rex title.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it was just the G-Rex line, but even though Nakajima also the lidet EWR Champion.
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you could knock a G-Met defeat a kind of machine in twenty three, seventeen with the Northern Lights bomb to win the G-Rex title, this was really great, actually.
59:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to have to watch it.
59:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
59:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They kicked the shit out of each other, not surprisingly with these two guys and everything like that.
59:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They finish extract say kind of battled over like getting each other into Northern Lights bomb, but then Naka Jima ultimately won that and won the title.
59:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still got it.
59:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, the wrestling was never his issue.
1:00:01
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the problem.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_06]: The in-ring work was never the problem why he, like, is where he's very fucking is now.
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm sure there's still plenty of promotions in Japan that would like to have a worker, the level of Katsuhikina Kajima on the roster, and probably would also want to like push him to a different degree as well.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's more about him that, you know, he isn't there.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:00:26
[SPEAKER_06]: And somehow, not the most controversial person, it's great anymore, or.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So what we're glad to see on this, about the show, while the top two matches were great, not could you be still great, she'd have still great.
1:00:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to give him credit too, because he was good in the main event.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, not under card.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that looks rough.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But wait, there's more.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so much more.
1:00:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of them only have done with great.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_01]: After the, after the show was pretty quick, right?
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because he did he was already gone by like the next show.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You say on it, Suka's retired because he was going to be suspended for a year, but then he chose retirement.
1:01:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He stripped of both of his titles, the G Rush and the,
1:01:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Genfinity and some people are very angry at him, but we don't know and I have no clue what to speculate about because I don't want to speculate.
1:01:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Although talking to the enemy has been speculated, although something worse has been, which I don't know, but you know, although I took the line about the criminal investigations more of a legal
1:01:31
[SPEAKER_01]: a violation of community.
1:01:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's more of the very criminal.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:01:37
[SPEAKER_01]: People I think jump to conclusions on that.
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was more like litigious stuff than like true criminal activity type thing.
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:01:44
[SPEAKER_06]: I know it would be again a thing of like it's always hard translated into Japan because I think generally if you want to like basically terminate someone's contract, you do need to do an investigation before you do that, but that could be for like anything they've done.
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it doesn't have to be like an actual crime.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, they were just going to suspend him for a year, but he chose retirement instead.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I don't think he's going to say retired because he could probably be able to be contractless within less than a year.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:02:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_06]: That's I. Okay.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_01]: This promotion isn't making it to the fifth anniversary, right?
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's no way.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
1:02:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe it.
1:02:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's got to be a money pit already, and I don't understand.
1:02:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This, although I can't say, what's the good dead guy's name?
1:02:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he is quite the optimist or has been at least in the past.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Something something Suzuki.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought it was Suzuki.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's quite the optimist, but he's burning a lot of money on.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's only so much you can like, you know, like counteract that, but if you're buying a business or whatever.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And something she was going for.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's the actual death now for this promotion.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_06]: That's just it.
1:02:53
[SPEAKER_06]: It's over.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Basically, it's what I'm saying.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Because this promotion never really developed the fanbase of its own, right?
1:03:01
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the only people that were still going to those shows and I was less and less every single time were like, shima fans.
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, that's the people that were going to these shows for like fans of shima.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_06]: And if he's leaving, then like this promotion is just fucking dead.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_06]: That is a downhill.
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what the rest strong hurts or strong hers doesn't exist anymore, but we don't know what Linda made it.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we?
1:03:22
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Teahawk at least was tweeting out a bunch of like pro company things.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_06]: But after they only took a thing, yeah, who knows?
1:03:33
[SPEAKER_06]: and then who knows if the schema leaving is death that's really just whatever was going on with one it's like I don't know like it's just an incredibly like weird as situation I mean but like who the fuck did they even have any more now?
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Well to be fair if they're getting sheemers contracts off the book they might be able to go few more months
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, maybe, but like, like, I mean, who did it?
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Who do they even have left on their roster anymore?
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Right?
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I had to hammer us, got like, is out.
1:03:59
[SPEAKER_06]: Some of what I know about it.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was Lucas gone.
1:04:03
[SPEAKER_01]: What an other was on his show.
1:04:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, sorry.
1:04:06
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:04:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought somebody's not always confused.
1:04:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah.
1:04:11
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, like half of the, like, I didn't want guys to want to build a round to go on.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you have your belt.
1:04:17
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you have both belts on Notre Dame.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, to be fair, I mean, that's also the clear sign.
1:04:21
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to lead you to WF thing.
1:04:23
[SPEAKER_06]: It's also probably dead now, right?
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_06]: You just have like one guy hold both belts.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like the way kind of quietly get rid of that.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't know.
1:04:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, um, you know what, is it?
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I feel like they did, did they say they're going to you, Linda Minversa's Nakajima, right?
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Dreaming that up.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_06]: I know they just said, well, they wanted to do on its Suka versus Nakajima, and then they had to literally pivot that to Kshima versus Nakajima, because on its Suka retired.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_06]: And then Kshima left.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, as well.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess maybe Lindemann makes sense, but like he lost in the open of that show.
1:05:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, okay, so here we are.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_01]: August ninth, the debt, UWF version six, they're doing debt UWF rules.
1:05:08
[SPEAKER_01]: No kidding.
1:05:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, why not.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, I don't know.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they had a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a
1:05:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_06]: And basically, they used that as like the exit thing of like, okay, she might retire it and that's basically like the peak where we're going to get to and then you can fold it off afterwards.
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_06]: But now they're not even going to get that because now it's a freelancer.
1:05:55
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to like shop that a little show around like mooted it basically.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're doing a short yoga homework, but tie on November third.
1:06:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, I mean, somebody has to like set the like record for like least ticket sold, right?
1:06:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to this, it's gonna have the debt you WF and great MMA on it as well.
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, that's what everybody's clamoring for.
1:06:17
[SPEAKER_06]: It's great MMA because it's so well-beloved.
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody loves great MMA.
1:06:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So...
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, what is your, okay, so we are now on great desk watch.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_01]: What is your timeline on this?
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_06]: So my thinking is I'm thinking, they're getting to the year end.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the last show is going to be like the year intro.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Cause like just based on how far in advance you have to book buildings in Japan, right?
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have anything announced past that November show at.
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom time.
1:06:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you thinking that one's the final one?
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but they might do the Christmas show or your adventure.
1:06:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because because I feel like they have at least have like Tokyo Dom City Hall or something booked for that.
1:06:57
[SPEAKER_06]: So they have to do that show because they already paid for the pill thing, which I mean, I will go if that show happens.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I will be there.
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably will have an easy time getting tickets.
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's nice.
1:07:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you have a great choice of seats for that one.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, maybe I will actually sit all the way on the floor there.
1:07:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, hey, who else can say the Dave Bean to the last show of a promotion?
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_06]: I've only ever made it to second to last show of a promotion, because I was at the second to last show of a co-city wrestling.
1:07:37
[SPEAKER_06]: I will be at the last great show.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess to go back to Schema for a second, I know where this guy's going to work.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because like, the relationship, let me never say never and wrestling, right?
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_06]: But it still seems like the relationship of Dragon Gate is just utterly and completely poisoned.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk out of almost twenty years.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
1:07:57
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I'm saying.
1:07:57
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like, never seen ever for me is more on a timeframe of like maybe he'll pop back up there in like, fifteen years or so.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I don't think that I think this is zero percent chance.
1:08:07
[SPEAKER_06]: He goes down now.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_06]: But then where does he even go?
1:08:10
[SPEAKER_06]: Like the reason he ended up in great in the first place was because that wasn't really anything else for him.
1:08:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Russell, one dead.
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:08:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't think.
1:08:19
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point with Shima, there's no point in Al-Japan spiking their renewed relationship with Dragon Gate.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_06]: No, also be remembered that last time he was an Al-Japan, it's not like he left a good impression either when he refused to drop to Akira Francisco.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_06]: So we think.
1:08:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yes, it is a special but like, I mean, the signs are pretty fucking obvious.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan, I don't think he's just old.
1:08:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, there's no value.
1:08:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what would the what the even one for firm, you know?
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know, but it seems they still have a relationship with Drangate.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, exactly.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's too many like, Drangate people on there.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I also, I don't think it's even the Drangate relationship.
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_06]: Ada is to me, is the guy that's stopping that.
1:09:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Ada literally refused to leave of Schema.
1:09:16
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Ada fucking hates Schema.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_06]: Like there's no way he allows them to like come in.
1:09:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Like if Schema comes in, Ada's fucking gone.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_06]: And Ada's on a contract, so Noah's gonna pick him.
1:09:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:09:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're liked with Schema Produce shows that you can keep up.
1:09:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically big Japan and big Japan.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And would be touching maybe.
1:09:40
[SPEAKER_01]: But that DDT great thing stopped too.
1:09:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like out of like any kind of reason to be size promotion.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like the only Qsupro.
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:09:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he might just want to do his retirement
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if I'm Schema, like he's fucking washed too.
1:09:59
[SPEAKER_06]: So I feel like if I, that's why I feel like he's leaving now because I think he's gonna shop around his retirement show and see if he can get some money more to do it.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:10:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's interesting because remember we did the great draft.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes there.
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We might be, uh, we might be, uh, totally had long into this, right?
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
1:10:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a GM had shown up.
1:10:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:10:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Or he had just shown up.
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that was just before he showed up.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:10:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens to him?
1:10:33
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he might be in a rest position and I could dreamer then she might actually because I mean to be honest I feel like with him
1:10:43
[SPEAKER_06]: If he would be like, if he would show contrition, I feel like if he could actually convince somebody that he's like gonna be on his best behavior, maybe there's a chance, no, I take some back.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think all Japan will be because for them, it's just a risk of awarded isn't there, right?
1:11:00
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they can't afford getting sued, which is what almost happened in the last time.
1:11:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it depends so much.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll fire all Japan and take them back if you show some contrition.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:11:10
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, given how much, how much business, you know, Nakajima versus Kento would do.
1:11:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it was, it really popping back up again, you know, Japan.
1:11:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much juice in that with both Kento and inside.
1:11:24
[SPEAKER_06]: I but like the very first thing I'm doing is I'm like having Kento beat him.
1:11:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He okay.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_06]: He just immediately just like that.
1:11:32
[SPEAKER_06]: I really do like, he, that point needs his wind like you.
1:11:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If Greg goes under, do you think rising or sorry, Hyatt O'Tamera and Yuzuka will suddenly become healthy?
1:11:43
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
1:11:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Yuzuka, I'm not sure Hyatt O'Tamera.
1:11:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it's literally selling out of this contract.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's probably banged up, but every wrestler is banged up.
1:11:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Every wrestler is always banged up.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he is just kind of like, oh, this promotion is so fucked.
1:11:59
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm that there's no point in me like sacrificing my body.
1:12:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just kind of going to like heal up.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: train a bit and then come back whatever my contract expires and then go to like you know it's funny because also on the topic of when we did the great draft I feel like since then a few people have like lowered their stock
1:12:15
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Kawakami, Junto and Tro.
1:12:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
1:12:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Kawakami's weird because he's like, in that mid to late thirties age, he's like, you know, yeah.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he's at least a guy.
1:12:29
[SPEAKER_06]: You can, if he comes cheap, he's a guy who would put on my roster because he's solid enough.
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for sure.
1:12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:12:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Talking or, you know, doesn't done anything so much.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not anything.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They never pulled the trigger really on so much.
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they did give him that title reign and then ended it in six days.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think John G is really stepped up.
1:12:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He ditched the original gimmick.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which was goofy.
1:12:59
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I mean, Yamamura is great, but like it's such a like risk to take on.
1:13:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's, he's held together so far.
1:13:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:13:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, he nearly died twice.
1:13:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's still really good to this thing.
1:13:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's the point.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the point.
1:13:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:13:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, all of it when it's too good was doing was talking to someone else.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I've only did, but like, I don't know talk to like some member of the track kid, Russell.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Or even if it was contra tampering, what is it?
1:13:28
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_01]: There's this great.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't think I'm he's still great.
1:13:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Kaito Ishida is absolute.
1:13:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kaito Ishida is going to land somewhere for sure.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm all Japan, I'm looking at Ishida.
1:13:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I even know.
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's depends on who give him a job.
1:13:47
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it also like depends if he's fine with just being a junior at Seoul.
1:13:51
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he wasn't.
1:13:53
[SPEAKER_01]: He did that one child-child-child-child-child-child.
1:13:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:13:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think though he did get the main event running great.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that remains to be seen, but we can officially go on in the great death watch.
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fair to say.
1:14:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Teahawk might be fucked.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, and I know that all Japan pushed him, but like, I've heard that Teahawk is like an asshole, basically, and nobody likes him.
1:14:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan might take the end of it.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:14:20
[SPEAKER_06]: But I also feel like if they really want the team, they would have poached them already.
1:14:24
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's the thing.
1:14:25
[SPEAKER_06]: Not working good.
1:14:27
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
1:14:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like, okay, some people will think full fall.
1:14:31
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think all of them will fall for the cracks.
1:14:33
[SPEAKER_06]: And I mean, it's still not sure, you know, if this whole, like, if like, try and create a pro or whatever, it's actually like real.
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And if that becomes a real, you know, people are just willing that into existence.
1:14:45
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:14:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:14:46
[SPEAKER_06]: But if that becomes a real promotion, I think like a lot of people are starting to go there.
1:14:52
[SPEAKER_01]: People were speculating that Shun Scott Walker was going to join Tranquilo Pro.
1:14:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that was just because we had tons of shun.
1:15:00
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, fucking worked everybody really well on that one.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Then people were saying, Anzai, and we already talked about what Anzai's probably.
1:15:07
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is all said.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to come back.
1:15:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he clearly, and I should probably mention that in that interview, and I was like, don't I'm coming back, right?
1:15:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, why I think it was a movie TV, whatever.
1:15:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the tranquil pose peer just
1:15:24
[SPEAKER_06]: projection somewhere to say now what should get announced like in between us recording and like uploading the episode like five minutes after it gets uploaded like yeah running like a full schedule and we're running like through the hall and to them or whatever I suppose it's not impossible I just think a lot of it right so this uh that is our great death watch we'll talk to uh
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_01]: leaning into this and do the updates is like, is great dead yet?
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, if it might be, it might be dead by the next time we record.
1:16:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they probably make it the end of the year.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
1:16:03
[SPEAKER_06]: I do think so too.
1:16:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, wrestling.
1:16:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I tracks a lot of people that are willing to burn a lot of money.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't think it last.
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
1:16:12
[SPEAKER_06]: That was always, obviously, when I became, I think it became basically non-viable when that sumo haul show just bombed completely.
1:16:21
[SPEAKER_06]: When at first, like, version mega show, right?
1:16:24
[SPEAKER_06]: When they tried their hardest.
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_06]: They brought, like, again, you have to remember, that was Ibushi first matched back in Japan.
1:16:31
[SPEAKER_06]: And it did horrific business.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think at that point, it was clear that great was just never ever going to be like a viable promotion.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
1:16:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
1:16:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I have that one to the pile?
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, to be fair, I will say it lasted longer than I thought it would.
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll be the wrong.
1:16:48
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they started out in the middle of the point like for promotion.
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_06]: It started out in the middle of the pandemic.
1:16:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, rest of my last six seven.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:16:57
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's going to last for seven.
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:17:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But big Japan will still be doing shows.
1:17:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:17:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You can look forward to that.
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I am convinced that they are not going out of business.
1:17:09
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, they are a cockroach.
1:17:11
[SPEAKER_06]: The one thing that will give me pause is the fact that second moto, like they're losing the income of the second moto, like fucking says that's gonna hurt them.
1:17:20
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so final topic part, take it away.
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so in about losing to Oberfemi in NXT.
1:17:27
[SPEAKER_06]: So I only watched that one.
1:17:28
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't watch the rest of the rest of the... Oh, I would hope not.
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_06]: Because fuck watching NXT.
1:17:35
[SPEAKER_06]: So didn't match?
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Overall, I thought it was fine.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_06]: I actually kind of like Oberfemi.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Again, I don't watch NXT, so it wasn't really super familiar to me.
1:17:43
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think he has like good... I think he has good, like...
1:17:46
[SPEAKER_06]: like all around everything, good look obviously I mean isn't WV so like he gets like fat rather than everything.
1:17:55
[SPEAKER_06]: So I thought that was really good.
1:17:55
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought the match was pretty decent as well.
1:17:58
[SPEAKER_06]: Like in a more I think to me is he's clearly a bit of a workup, but I mean obviously he has much more experience than then family does.
1:18:05
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think that Fabi actually like held his own, like it's not like he like got like completely outworked here.
1:18:10
[SPEAKER_06]: And I thought actually like his like transitions and everything of really, really smooth.
1:18:15
[SPEAKER_06]: So overall it was a really, really solid match.
1:18:18
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm not gonna like go and say like it's like a match of the year content or whatever or like give it a rating.
1:18:25
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's it's definitely under four.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_06]: So and it was also dragged down by the fact that
1:18:33
[SPEAKER_06]: had to like put in like obviously had to put in like North American like bullshit because Josh breaks was at ringside and basically did it the thing well like basically now like in Amura is a faith and breaks is a heal so did it the thing well like breaks like behind in Amura's back
1:18:53
[SPEAKER_06]: he like hit Oberfemi with the title belt and then in a more just kind of like sees like Oberfemi on the ground and he like goes up for like a splash and then he like sees like breaks holds like holding like the title belt and everything and he's like oh no as the valent baby face now I cannot like do my move I need to argue with my partner instead
1:19:15
[SPEAKER_06]: And then he kind of like lost a match from there.
1:19:18
[SPEAKER_06]: So that very much dragged it down for me.
1:19:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Like otherwise, like incredibly solid match, like actually enjoyed it, like even like the whole like W W production and everything wasn't annoying here.
1:19:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it was like in a really small venue, right?
1:19:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it was like in like center stage.
1:19:33
[SPEAKER_06]: So it really was only like, yeah, I mean, like basically it was like a
1:19:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Osaka, like an Indian show in the smaller one, right?
1:19:45
[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of similar sized crowd.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought the commentary wasn't as annoying.
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think because it was such a small one when you didn't do, at least not for this match, not that I noticed at least.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_06]: They didn't do the like, really obvious like crowd-sweetening.
1:19:59
[SPEAKER_06]: And the crowd actually was like into the match as well.
1:20:03
[SPEAKER_06]: So that helped that as well.
1:20:04
[SPEAKER_06]: So overall, I enjoyed it.
1:20:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's something you need to go out of your way to like watch, but also if you do watch it, like you're not going to waste your time either.
1:20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's interesting.
1:20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the innermars are going to be doing anything else?
1:20:23
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I feel like he's gonna, well, he's got, I think it's got, the endpoint is gonna be like him versus breaks.
1:20:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
1:20:29
[SPEAKER_06]: The kind of set that up here because they're like argued after the match and everything.
1:20:34
[SPEAKER_06]: So like, I feel like, yeah, that's very obviously going to be like the endpoint like he's gonna have a match of breaks, lose, and then I think it's gonna be back.
1:20:42
[SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, you can do that pretty quickly.
1:20:44
[SPEAKER_06]: So I actually wouldn't be shocked if he's back for the n-one.
1:20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I would expect that they really need him in that.
1:20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It could, well, it using the Noah talent and a couple of foreigners that could get dicey with the quality.
1:20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
1:20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm getting depending on if they bring in it.
1:21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really, what was time to bring him back?
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:03
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
1:21:04
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it doesn't look like he's like signing with like, no, you and it thing like that.
1:21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're not going to push him above what they just did.
1:21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the P type thing.
1:21:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is everything.
1:21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So we covered some other things that we don't usually do was fun.
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I sort of enjoy watching more other things and a variety, even if it's not always good.
1:21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's fun to watch the world burn.
1:21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: In the case of great.
1:21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, I think we should come back next week, actually, because we'll have
1:21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: the big, uh, Noah Corkin and we got three odds of interest between now and next Monday, including a tag title match in the triple crown.
1:21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And the junior battle of glory.
1:21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be more than enough.
1:21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So we will see talk to you next week and enjoy all the wrestling out there.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.