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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Friday, 12/05/25 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Hmm, all systems going clear. We left.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on everyone, and we are back for
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  Speaker 2: a Friday edition of the NBA Show. Got Matt in
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  Speaker 2: the saddle again here filling in for really just swapping
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  Speaker 2: around things for him. But yeah, it's a really really
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  Speaker 2: fun slate tonight. A ton of injury news that we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk through as we go game by game. Matta, bring in,
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  Speaker 2: how you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I am good man. Always better to be here talking
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  Speaker 3: some hoops with you. Big set out to him for
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  Speaker 3: taking the show for me on Wednesday. Going through some
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  Speaker 3: back problems over here, so if anyone has gone through
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  Speaker 3: that they can relate. But feeling okay enough to do
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  Speaker 3: the show today and we got a monster slate to
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  Speaker 3: talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Have you had the chance to look over a
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  Speaker 2: thing like, what do you what are you looking at
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  Speaker 2: the slate from a just an overall slate environment standpoint?
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  Speaker 2: How is it looking like to you?
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  Speaker 3: Man? It's looking like one of those slates where there's
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  Speaker 3: this is kind of the nature of an eleven game
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  Speaker 3: NBA slate. There's so many good plays it's difficult to
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  Speaker 3: narrow it down, especially for someone that plays limited lineups.
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  Speaker 3: I think that like it's easier to multi enter on
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  Speaker 3: slates like this just because narrowing it down it is
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  Speaker 3: so difficult. But that's what this show is for. You know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously there's injury news we have to wait for, but
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  Speaker 3: like I think that there are you know, enough spots
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  Speaker 3: that we can narrow down with and I am hopefully
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  Speaker 3: you see it the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I have a pretty decent feel for
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  Speaker 2: how the slate is gonna or at least how I'm
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  Speaker 2: viewing the slate tonight. I think the main thing when
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  Speaker 2: it gets to being this many games, you don't really
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  Speaker 2: want to get too cute. I think you want to
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  Speaker 2: really lean into some of the high confidence plays and
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  Speaker 2: spots overall, just from like the injuries and matchups and
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  Speaker 2: game environment standpoints that really try to make it as
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  Speaker 2: easy on yourself as you can be able to dive
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  Speaker 2: in game by game. So it's up to people quickly
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  Speaker 2: in checks. We got to run through this one as
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  Speaker 2: we have eleven games. Here, got a guy Little Neck,
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  Speaker 2: Michael w Mister R. Klein go collect mister Mike's daddy,
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  Speaker 2: Scuda McGavin, guy Gang Green wins a lot para Bay
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  Speaker 2: coach sav and.
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  Speaker 4: Then Jason Turner is in here. What's up man?
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  Speaker 2: All right, we'll jump into the first game on the slate.
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  Speaker 2: We have Miami and Orlando really good and game total.
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  Speaker 2: As we know from these Miami games are going to
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  Speaker 2: play fast. Orlando's picked up the pace a lot this
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  Speaker 2: year as well. From the injury side, Tayler Hero is
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  Speaker 2: doubtful tonight. Looks like he's gonna miss a handful of games,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like from what I've seen from the Beat reporters.
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  Speaker 2: And then Norman Powell will be back. Magic are getting
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  Speaker 2: Paulo ben Carro back tonight. Prices have not really adjusted
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  Speaker 2: for life with Ben Carrow back, so makes it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit tougher to get to some of these Magic guys.
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  Speaker 2: But the game environment is definitely appealing. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is one of the games that it kind of feels
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  Speaker 2: like one that could be too cute if you're getting
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  Speaker 2: deep into. But I think there are a few plays
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  Speaker 2: that stand out. But I want to get your thoughts first.
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  Speaker 2: How are you attacking this Miami versus Orlando game?
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily if I feel like it's too cute.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think that compared to other spots, this
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  Speaker 3: game is gonna project well at all, Like Orlando is
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  Speaker 3: in the better spot like on paper, but man, their
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  Speaker 3: price tags are already high, and now you throw Bank
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  Speaker 3: Carro in the mix like their top option. Really hard
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  Speaker 3: to get to anything on Orlando, at least as of
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  Speaker 3: right now. In my eyes. From Miami. Hero being out helps.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think there's any one, any one particular
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  Speaker 3: guy in Miami that stands out as far as price tag,
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  Speaker 3: points per dollar or anything like that. I think the
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  Speaker 3: one guy that looks the two guys that look best
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  Speaker 3: that should say Bam seventy seven hundred playing well right now,
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  Speaker 3: and then Norman Powell. But like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I want to use center equity on Bam. Here there's
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  Speaker 3: other guys that project better, that project better points per dollar,
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  Speaker 3: like in three lineups. Man, I don't think I get
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  Speaker 3: anything from this game. Am I doing something wrong there?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: I definitely I think I see it the exact same
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  Speaker 2: way as you. Bam and Power are gonna be guys
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  Speaker 2: that I get to some of it in my one fifty.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't really see how you can feel extremely
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  Speaker 2: confident about playing one or two pieces in this game
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  Speaker 2: as a whole. If you're building one to three lineup,
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  Speaker 2: so I definitely agree with you there. And then the
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  Speaker 2: Orlando side is the same thing, like adding in Paulo
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  Speaker 2: just a guy that is normally going to take away
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  Speaker 2: a lot usage, and then the prices have not really
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  Speaker 2: adjusted for life with him, like we'd be paying mid
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  Speaker 2: five k's and probably mid six k's for Baine and Suggs.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that you're probably better off just
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  Speaker 2: exing this game out if you're playing one to three
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  Speaker 2: lineups and then moving on. So if you want, we
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  Speaker 2: can just move on to the next game, which is
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  Speaker 2: one that is a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot more appealing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Lakers at Boston Obviously the big news in
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  Speaker 2: this one. Luca is welcoming the birth of his second child,
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  Speaker 2: so he's out there in Slovenia, and Lebron is dealing
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  Speaker 2: with some injuries, mainly just back to back related, so
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  Speaker 2: those two guys will be out tonight to make this
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  Speaker 2: a really good spot for value on the Laker side,
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  Speaker 2: but a really good spot to spend it for Austin
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  Speaker 2: Reeves because the numbers just jump off the page for him.
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  Speaker 2: When you take off Luca and Lebron, he was already
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  Speaker 2: playing at an extremely high level with those guys on
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  Speaker 2: the court, but now even at nine point five K,
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  Speaker 2: he really seems like a guy that is a priority
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  Speaker 2: spend on tonight's slate. Not really too worried about the matchup.
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  Speaker 2: I do think that Boston has the capability of the
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  Speaker 2: game down and maybe making a little bit underwhelming, but
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  Speaker 2: he's just gonna have such a large usage role and
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  Speaker 2: just being able to do everything that he wants on offense.
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  Speaker 4: The ball is going to be in his hands.
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  Speaker 2: I would I mean, I would be surprised if we
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  Speaker 2: look back at the numbers tomorrow and see that he
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  Speaker 2: had like over eight to nine minutes of touch time
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  Speaker 2: in this game. So definitely love Austin Reeves tonight. But
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  Speaker 2: then some other guys that should benefit from Lebron being out.
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  Speaker 2: DeAndre Aden hypothetically should be the number two option on offense.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing really jumps off the page for him from a
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  Speaker 2: point per minute standpoint with those guys off the court,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think that he is a guy that
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  Speaker 2: does have a little bit of upside. I would say
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  Speaker 2: the matchup is average to above average. The Celtics are
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  Speaker 2: really good rim defense, but an area they've been really
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  Speaker 2: poor at this season. They're dead lasted rebounding. So if anything,
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  Speaker 2: we can run into a game where he gets like
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  Speaker 2: twenty and fifteen sixteen seventeen rebound something like that, and
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  Speaker 2: he could pay off in a decently big way at
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  Speaker 2: what I expect to be really low ownership. And then
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  Speaker 2: Ruey and Jake Lavi are two guys that I'm definitely
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  Speaker 2: looking to. Ruey doesn't have the numbers that really jump
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  Speaker 2: off either, like DeAndre Aiden kind of underwhelming from a
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  Speaker 2: permanent standpoint, but we have seen in years past, mainly
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  Speaker 2: last season, where some games where Lebron would miss, they
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  Speaker 2: do ask rue to do a lot more on offense.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't got to see it first hand us at
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  Speaker 2: court side of the Lakers game against the Blazers last
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  Speaker 2: year where I think Luca and Lebron were out, or
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  Speaker 2: they might not even have had Luca at that time,
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  Speaker 2: so it might have been Anthony Davis and Lebron were
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  Speaker 2: out and Rui had a really good game there. So
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  Speaker 2: I know that they're going to want to use him
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  Speaker 2: a lot more, and he's been playing a ton of minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we can pencil him in for thirty
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  Speaker 2: three on the low end and potentially get up to
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  Speaker 2: like thirty six if the game is closed. And then
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  Speaker 2: for la rav I think the upside is that he's
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  Speaker 2: averaging thirty three minutes per game in starts this season,
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  Speaker 2: just under twenty six DK points. But he's a guy
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  Speaker 2: that fills up the stat sheets, so I do think
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  Speaker 2: that he has really big upside if things go right.
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  Speaker 2: We saw him get up to forty five DK points
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  Speaker 2: in one start and then over thirty decay points in
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  Speaker 2: the other one, so that's what I'm looking at. On
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  Speaker 2: the Lakers side, I think Reeves is great. I like
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  Speaker 2: Laarravia the second best, and then I'm fine sprinkling some
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  Speaker 2: Maiden and Ruey for.
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  Speaker 4: The Boston stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like I think Jaylen Brown got He's off
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  Speaker 2: the injury report now, so they'll be fully healthy, which
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  Speaker 2: makes it tougher for me to want to get into
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  Speaker 2: the Boston stuff. I think you can definitely make the
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  Speaker 2: case for Jalen Brown and Derek Why and paid Pritchett
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  Speaker 2: for that case because it is a decent matchup. Lakers
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  Speaker 2: aren't great on defense, but I think there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: some really really high fantasy outings tonight in the mid
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  Speaker 2: tier and the upper tier. So I don't think I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be prioritizing anything on Boston. Are you seeing anything
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  Speaker 2: differently than me in this game?
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  Speaker 3: No, I see things like actually basically exactly the same.
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  Speaker 3: Reeves is priority play here, not even priced close to
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  Speaker 3: high enough with the role he's gonna be in tonight
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  Speaker 3: with no Luco or Lebron. So yeah, I'm in on Reeves.
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  Speaker 3: I like your aid and call and whenever you like eight,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm in after the last time you liked eight
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  Speaker 3: and then he absolutely smashed, so I can get on
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  Speaker 3: board to that. I think looks like one of the
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  Speaker 3: better points per dollar plays we have right now. You know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously Kelly Olinek is the best guy there, and there's
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  Speaker 3: some other guys that look good, but I think forty
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  Speaker 3: five hundred Larabia looks pretty good. And then I like
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  Speaker 3: Ruy quite a bit here too, Like I'm with you
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  Speaker 3: on the you know usage bump that he like if
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  Speaker 3: you played this out like for a full season without
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  Speaker 3: Luca or Lebron, like his usage, and you know, touch
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  Speaker 3: time would be a lot higher than it's shown so far.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we see that tonight I also like
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  Speaker 3: he hit the game winning three last night, like gotta
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  Speaker 3: be feeling good about himself. Not playing him because of that,
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  Speaker 3: but I like those good vibes heading into tonight. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: they're even more shorthanded. I like a bunch of the
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  Speaker 3: Lakers here. How could you not. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: go overboard because it's such a big slate, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't I never mind correlation in NBA, like because if
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers pay play really well here, then I could
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  Speaker 3: see a bunch of these guys getting there at their tags.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you there.
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking through that a little bit too,
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  Speaker 2: because I think there are cases where Reeves can hit
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  Speaker 2: and the game is not necessarily really close or even
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  Speaker 2: high scoring. So I don't really know if I want
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  Speaker 2: to force one of that, but it might be on
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  Speaker 2: the other side, like if you do play some Jaylen
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  Speaker 2: Brown or Derek White or Prichard, then maybe adding in
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  Speaker 2: like a Ruie or Reeves or an Aiden makes a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of sense, because I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: think those guys are great one off plays, where I
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  Speaker 2: think Reeves is probably the best spend up option on
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  Speaker 2: the entire slate, So I definitely agree with you there
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  Speaker 2: about the correlation aspect of it. Yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 2: was probably the first NBA game I've been to in
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  Speaker 2: three or four years. Don't really get to go to
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  Speaker 2: a lot, but was invited, so I had to go
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 3: NBA games are always fun, great time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, actually don't mind. I'm not a huge
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: Lakers or definitely not a Clippers fan, but the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: I like going to Lakers games. There always a good
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  Speaker 2: time there, all right, Next t game on the slate,
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  Speaker 2: Portland at Detroit. Another game with a pretty solid total.
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  Speaker 2: I'll put up my notes for this one. Injuries on
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  Speaker 2: this one, Donovan Clingon questionable, Chris Murray questionable, and I
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  Speaker 2: think Robert Williams is still questionable unless they've put out
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  Speaker 2: a new injury report. I just wanted to check that
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  Speaker 2: really quick. Yeah, nothing, nothing's changed there. Okay, they haven't
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  Speaker 2: reported there anything for the injury stuff yet, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: just assuming those guys are still questionable. And then for Detroit,
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  Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson is questionable. Again, it doesn't really change too much.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you know, we're probably seeing Dennis Jenkins
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  Speaker 2: slide into starting lineup again. But I don't really think
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  Speaker 2: that you need to prioritize any of the value plays
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  Speaker 2: on that side. Blazers have toned down their pace as
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  Speaker 2: of late. I think it's just because they've been playing
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  Speaker 2: so many games in such a short time and really
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  Speaker 2: running up the minutes for some of these guys. But
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season they were playing at
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  Speaker 2: a lightning fast pace, so they're really dipping from the
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  Speaker 2: pace perspective, and then the defense is getting a lot worse.
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  Speaker 2: Don boll defense has been an area that has been
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  Speaker 2: a spot that you want to attack with no Drew Holliday.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit different tonight. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean this is the team has given up a
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  Speaker 2: ton of transition points. And for Detroit, I mean they're
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  Speaker 2: playing really good on defense, so it's not really a
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  Speaker 2: spot I love picking on. But I do think that
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  Speaker 2: there is some upside in this game. I'll let you
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  Speaker 2: kick this one off since I took the reins in
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  Speaker 2: the last one, But what are you looking at this game?
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  Speaker 3: So I think this game looks better than the last one,
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think there's like some like this is
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  Speaker 3: another game where I think, again, I think it looks
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  Speaker 3: better but I don't think like there are like smash
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  Speaker 3: plays in this game. I don't think there's guys right
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: now that have to be in core plays. I think
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: Denny certainly can be. You know, he's just playing so
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  Speaker 3: well right now. Nice positional eligibility too for him tonight
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  Speaker 3: with the point guard edition, Like you might not be
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: playing him at point guard, but just the ability to
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  Speaker 3: play him at the guard spot, like really nice. So
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  Speaker 3: Denny's going to be the top piece of Portland like always.
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  Speaker 3: I see that similar literally here, Shaden Sharp has looked
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  Speaker 3: good recently, so I think he looks like the second
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  Speaker 3: best piece after that, Like I don't know, I mean
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy Grant sure, uh, you know, clinging a lot of
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  Speaker 3: opportunity costs at center. I don't love Portland here. I
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  Speaker 3: do think the Detroit side certainly looks better, you know,
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  Speaker 3: higher price tags outside of the Denny tag. Caid again
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  Speaker 3: kind of like Denny always in play, Like I could
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  Speaker 3: see playing Caid and Denny here and like running that correlation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know or think I'm going to do that,
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  Speaker 3: but I could definitely see that getting there both guys
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  Speaker 3: in a close competitive game, you know, I know you
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: talk about this, like, especially on an eleven game Slay,
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  Speaker 3: you get like one outlier game that goes OT DOUBLET
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  Speaker 3: Like you're in a really good spot if you've got
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  Speaker 3: the two studs from that game. I think Jalen Duran
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  Speaker 3: projects well at seventy seven hundred and you know, one
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  Speaker 3: of the better center options. It's tough because Olenik for me,
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  Speaker 3: is going to eat up one of those spots, so
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  Speaker 3: you know, is during a must for me? No, but
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  Speaker 3: I think he's definitely in play outside of that, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's really two and two for me, Like it's Sharp
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  Speaker 3: and Denny and then Durren and Kate for me not
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  Speaker 3: seeing a ton else, Like I don't love the secondary
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  Speaker 3: pieces in this game. You're seeing it differently.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm pretty much in line with you there. I
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  Speaker 2: think that Denny is kind of always in play just
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  Speaker 2: because he's he had such a massive role with Drew
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  Speaker 2: and all these guys being out, and then you add
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: on if Klingon does miss he's been It's been kind
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: of weird with the injury stuff with Clean because he
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: like played, then missed a week with the illness and
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  Speaker 2: then came back and was questionable with the leg injury
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  Speaker 2: that was questionable again, so I got to wonder how
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  Speaker 2: healthy he actually is. But taking him off the court
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  Speaker 2: really does a lot for Denny from a rebounding perspective perspective,
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  Speaker 2: because you see the game against Okay. See he had
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  Speaker 2: what nineteen rebounds in that game a triple double, so
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  Speaker 2: that was insane. Yeah, I mean, he's he's a stud.
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  Speaker 2: He's really good, so I would definitely have interested in him.
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  Speaker 2: And then Shandon Sharp to me, becomes one of the
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  Speaker 2: top mid tier options if you take Cleaning off the court,
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  Speaker 2: because there's just a lot more offense and usage go around.
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  Speaker 4: And he, like you.
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  Speaker 2: Said, he's playing really well right now. Looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: put the injury behind him, played like thirty two minutes
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  Speaker 2: in a back to back where we were kind of
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  Speaker 2: expecting him to miss. So really good to see Chadon
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  Speaker 2: Sharp playing more. And I think that if the game
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  Speaker 2: is close and it's not Danny doing it, it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be one of him or Jamie Grant. I think
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: that both those guys kind of have a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of upside just with the way that Detroit plays defense
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  Speaker 2: where they do allow some off fall scoring. But Shandon
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  Speaker 2: Sharp is just like a really really high usage guy
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  Speaker 2: that can get it done in any matchup. So I
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: like him just echoing what you said there. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that the secondary guys are really too.
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  Speaker 4: Much in play.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Kamara has been playing really well lately, seem getting a
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: little bit of ownership. I don't really think that I
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: want who will need to go there and if this inside,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I agree with you on Kate and Duran. I think
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: the matchup on paper, I don't know if people are
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: really going to look into this too much, but like
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: you look at like DVP numbers and just like pick
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: and roll numbers and all that on ball stats defensively
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: for the Portland and you would say it's a good matchup.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: But it's a little different because Tamani Kamara is a
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: really really good defender. I think that he's going to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: be the guy that's defending Kate's and I, which could
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: open up some stuff for these other guys. So I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: kind of like a Sar a little bit.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, no, sorry, I would just agree.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I kind of like Asar a little bit played away
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: from Denny because I think that the downside for us
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: are not reaching a minute ceiling is that Danny draws
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: him draws a lot of fouls because he's been doing
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: a really good job at drawing foul slately. Just the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: drive stats and the foul drawing stats are all way
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: up over the last month or so. So I'd be
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: careful playing a SAR with Denny because I do think
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: that he's going to be the guy that's defending him.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: But Asar kind of has a good bit going for
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: him here. The trip transition defense has been really struggling,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: so that's kind of what I like to see when
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: firing up either one of the Thompson twins, but definitely
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: a start because he's very His scoring comes a lot
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: in those transition outings, so I'd be looking at him
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing about your shad and sharp just you
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: kind of extended on what I was saying about how
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: this is potentially a good matchup for him. He had
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: they you know, they played twice a year. He had
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: one mediocre game against Detroit last year, but in Detroit
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: he had forty nine Fantasy points. Yeah, so we'll take that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a really good price sect for him, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I think that he's trending up in the right direction
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: right now too.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a hooper. He's so athletic too, it's crazy.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Hooper is just the best word to describe him.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a just a bucket getter. All right, next game,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: we got to speed up a little bit. Uh, let
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: me see how we're doing on time. So to me,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: it's we're doing all right. All right, So he got
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Denver and Atlanta close spread here, so that would to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: me indicates that we're gonna get Jalen John's and Christap's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: returning tonight. I believe they both were at shoot around,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: so they have probably a seventy five percent chance of playing.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Jalen I would imagine was more injury maintenance related because
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: he's been playing so many minutes. But it is a
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: calf injury for him, So that's always one you want
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to be careful with because there's so many cap strings
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: in the NBA right now, So you definitely gotta be
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: careful with that because we know that what that can
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: turn into. The Nuggets pretty healthy for the most part. Obviously,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: nothing new with the Aaron Gordon and Christian Brown missing
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: or brown, but Spencer Jones is questionable. He's been a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: main rotation piece for them. Lately, so that might open
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: up a little bit more for like a Tim Hardaway junior,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: but not really too much. I think this game does
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: have some sneaky shootout potential. Nuggets have been elite on
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: offense this season. They're first in NBA in points per possession,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: but over the last two weeks they're really struggling on defense.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: They're second worst in defensive points per possession. And then
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Atlanta we know can play a lot better when Jalen
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Johnson is healthy, So him being out there I think
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: is really important for the game environment as a whole,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: because I think that systemically they could really struggle like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: we saw them last game, which I kind of wish
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't overlook as much because somebody did mention the discord.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Just like the risk of Atlanta really playing poorly without
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson was.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Reminded me of a spot last year when like Dallas
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: was missing all their guys and like all their players
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: who are in look so good, but they just like
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: couldn't do anything.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta definitely look at it from a
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: holistic standpoint a little bit more just how how a
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: team's going to play without these guys. But Gentlen should
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: be back tonight. I'd imagine he's close to full, so
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: should be a game that stays close, which I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: gets you onto Jokic a little bit. He's sub thirteen
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: k now, which means we don't need eighty plus from him.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We more so need like seventy five plus, which is
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: definitely doable. Seemed projected at sixty four, which feels like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a median projection for him. I would say on a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: normal night where he's playing thirty six thirty eight, he's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: probably getting above seventy, and it's a good matchup. The
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Hawks are a really bad rebounding team, bottom four of
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the season in re bounding in a slightly below average
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: room defense. I don't think Chris tops returning changes too
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: much because I would imagine he's pretty limited. We've seen
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: him return off these illness tags before in the past
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and be playing like eighteen to twenty minutes. I would
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: imagine somewhere around there, maybe twenty five on the high end.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But Jokis is just one game removed from a twenty
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: rebound performance, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Yokic
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: come in and drop eighty plus on Atlanta. Tonight in
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a game where we just saw Jamal Murray be the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: guy that went off the night before, so I could
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: see it swinging back in Yoki's favor. I think Murray
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: is okay, He's playing as good as he ever has
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this early in the season, but it's a really tough
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: matchup Againstdyson Daniels, I'm gonna be off with Jamal Murray tonight.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I think there's some really good point guard options as
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a whole on the slate, but especially in that low
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: nine K range that I like more than him. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: then the appeal for guys like Cam Johnson and Payton
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Watson is that they're playing a ton of minutes and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: could theoretically see some more open looks with Yokich and
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Murray getting all defensive attention. I do like Cam Johnson
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit more, just because I think that he's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: got maybe not better ceiling, but definitely better scoring upside.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Don't mind Payton Watson at all though. And then Atlanta,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I think is going to be closer to a cross
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: off for me. I think you could make the case
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: for Jalen Johnson because he's a stud but returning from
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the CAF injury.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think i'd probably look elsewhere as a spend up.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: How are you viewing this game? I think it's a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: decent game environment as a whole.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I do think it's a decent game environment from a
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: thirty thousand foot view. I want to like this game,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: and I think that, like you know, gaging stacking a
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: game like this and play because to good teams, close spread,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: good you know, good players. Obviously, the problem is just
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the price tags, Like I obviously would want to play
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yokic with Jalen, and that's you know, you're allocating like
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: almost twenty five K for those two guys. You're not
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: playing reeves at that point, and then you're you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: struggling to get any other really good plays in that lineup,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: so it could get there, but you know you're paying
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: full freight for it. So at the end of the day,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I do think this game comes down to Jokic your
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: bust for me, Jamal too expensive at nine K, like
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: with Jokic in just other better plays cheaper than him.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: So I'm a Jamal fan, but not here at that tag.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And I want to like Jalen, but again a little
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: bit nooided with the with the calf injury. I will
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: say though, if he plays tonight, like I do think
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: it was just a rest situation because I don't think
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: they would be rushing him back at all. He's clearly
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: their franchise guy. So it's like I think Jalen Johnson's
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: a good tournament play, but Jokic is you know, obviously
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the best player in this game. Not a must on
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: this slate. There are other good centers, but there is
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you know, decent value right now, and we could only
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: get more of it. So the more value that comes,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: he's finally under thirteen K. I do think this sets
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: up is a really good spot for him. So certainly
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: he's on my Bengo card here. Not a must. I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: playing three line up here. If I are making them
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: right now, I would probably have Yokic in one of them.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a perfect way to put it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Definitely agree there that the value could get better. It
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: looks like it probably come more so with the center position,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: if anything, which makes it a little tougher because right yeah,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: like Yokic always the only being centered eligible changes things.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: But I mean the spurs and believe the game is
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the one go ahead.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: No the other problem, and I'm just thinking about this
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: out loud, like with Yolkics and the value we have
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: right now, like the cup, the value guys we have
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: right now are pretty like clear, So it's like a
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: link Jeremy sohan La Ravia, Like if all Yokic lineups
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: are gonna have those three guys and it's just a
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: four for four after that, I'm not interested, Like we
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: need some more value.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all right. Charlotte at Toronto.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Pretty clean injury from both sides here outside of the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: our barret stuff which we've already had. But coin Sexts
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: is gonna be out for Charlotte. Open up a little
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: bit of guard minutes. Trey Man is doubtful, which he's
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: missed quite some time, but Brandon Miller is probable, so
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: he'll be back tonight. Jaka Pertle very likely to be
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: back tonight if he has not already been ruled in.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And then Kach Brenner I believe made shoot around, so
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: good chance that he's gonna be playing tonight. I don't
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: know if they're gonna keep him off the bench. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: feel like it was more matchup related against Kat that
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: they did that, But this game, I don't love too much.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a case to be made for
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Scotty Barnes because we're starting to see that tournament winning
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: upside from him, and I don't really think there's anybody
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: on the hornet side that could really slow him down.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: The room defense for Charlotte has been quite bad this year,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: which is expected just a team that is kind of
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: lacking a lot of good defenders and a lot of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: talent behind some of these guys. So I think Barnes
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: is the guy to look for on Toronto if choosing one.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing shit projecting really well and he's getting good
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: amount of ownership, just kind of slight dependent. I don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: really think i'd want to get super deep into Jamal
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: shed as a shock play, because it's not There's nothing
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: really changing about him that we haven't seen in the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: past week or so since Ardre Barrett's been out. He's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: going to play low twenty minutes. He's still going to
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: be losing touches to Mano quickly, Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: So even when he's out there, he's not the first option.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Pretty good shooter and he's had some really crazy assist
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: potential assist numbers early in the season, but I think
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: they're really leaning into the Barnes Ingram quickly stuff now
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with Barrett out, so I don't I wouldn't really be
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: excited about touting Jamal shed tonight therefore, but like, if
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you need him at three point five K, then he's fine,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: because he's probably the best option down there. But I'd
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: rather find ways to get away from it because you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: are giving up a pretty valuable spot at point guard,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and then the Charlotte stuff with Miller back, it kind
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: of takes everybody out consideration. I think the LaMelo ball
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: thirty seven minute game was a one off, and they're
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: probably going to be capping him at like thirty two
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: on the high end, but probably even thirty more so
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: moving forward. I think it was kind of him playing
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: really well and then being without Collin Sexton and Trey
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Man and Brendon Miller that led to That's I wouldn't
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: expect thirty plus minutes from him on a regular Basis
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: anything you like in this game or is it a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: kind of an X out and move on.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: It's more of an X out and move on. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I will say, like I don't think Shed as of
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: right now is a bad play. I also like, if
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: he is gonna get ownership, I'm totally with you, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: like twelve percent owned, I'm fine with it. Like it
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: does kind of fall into like the another guy that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: probably gonna be in Jokic lineups though, so like, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: that's probably the only time you really need him, So
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like just talking this out, Like I probably won't play
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: him because of that, but I do think there's blowout
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: concerns in this game, so maybe a couple more minutes
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: for Shed here. It's obviously a really good spot. Like, yeah,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not excited about playing him, but you know, it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: just a price play at the end of the day.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Other than that, I don't see anything from this game
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that is going to be a priority for me or
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: that I'll even likely play.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the blowout stuff is actually kind of intriguing too,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: because I do think that there's a better chance that
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Toronto wins this game handedly, which and I'm looking at
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: like who they would have out there.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: And blowout, it'd probably be Shed.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I would imagine it's some combination of Shed, Walter Colin,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Murray Boyles, Grady Dick, and jameson battle. Maybe they get
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Mobo in there. I don't think they're going to really
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: want to play Garrett Temple, so he'd.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Have to be a crazy blowout to get Temple run.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he might be out there for blowout. But
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's kind of still like it's not this is not
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: a double digit spread, so it's Vegas is expecting to
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: stay closer than to be a blowout. So I would
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: probably lean away from that personally on the Jamal s
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: shed stuff. But like Matt said, if you want to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: get the jokes builds and he allows for that, then
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he makes a lot of sense. Next game, my Utah
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Jazz heading over to the Knicks. Our guys, Scoot mcgav
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and gonna be boots on the ground at this game.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I think this is another game that kind of feels
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: closer to an X out than anything, especially on the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Utah side. I feel like Yusuf Nurkic is probably closer
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to doubtful than he is questionable. But they will be
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: getting Kevin Love back, which is not crazy from like
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: a minute standpoint. He's not playing twenty five plus minutes
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: probably ever again his career, But that is another body
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that they didn't have last night, also back to back,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: they didn't have to travel obviously because this game is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: in New York. I think that if you're playing any
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of Lauri or Kiante, you gotta pair him with a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Cat or a Brunson or Bridges, maybe not even maybe
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Hard but probably not. With Og probably back for this game,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I just don't see this game staying close with the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Knicks being applied for one hundred and twenty seven plus
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: points and the Jazz not scoring a ton of points.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the way that it stays close.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So if you're.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Playing any of Lauria Kiante, I would pair them up
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: with one person on the other side. I don't think
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: these guys are very much in play in single injury
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: at all, and I probably feel the same way about
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the next stuff. You can make the case for Kat
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and Brunston because it's a great matchup, but they're not cheap,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and same thing for Heart now with Og, Beck kind
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of takes him out of play. I think Bridges is
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: probably the best option if Og does play, because six
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: point five K for a guy that can spike for steals.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: With the Jazz having one of the worst turnover percentages
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: in the league. They're really bad against guards, especially guys
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that play more off ball. Bridges could definitely hit for
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a couple, you know, four or five threes and hit
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: value pretty quickly, So he'd be my favorite play, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I don't really love too much. I don't think I'll
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: have anything in this game in single untry.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: What about you?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the two guys that I like bass to the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: two point guards, like Bronson's tag at eighty eight hundred,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: sure like not a must for me, but like he
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: could smash that tag in this matchup. And then Keyante
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: George is approaching just in play on any given slate
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: right now for me. I mean, he's just a baller.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I've liked him for you know, since his Baylor days.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: But he's just playing really, really well this year, So
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: it's nothing to do with the spot or the tag
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: looks amazing, but he's just underpriced for his production this year,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: So you know, is he going to be a core
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: play for me?
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: No?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Will I be upset if I get to him?
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: No?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point Chance is playing great right now. I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: think that Jess have found their point guard for the future,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and he's looking like he's on his way to becoming
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a star in the league, and he's crushing it this year.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's top thirty in points per game, top
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: ten and assists per game. So he's looking really good
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: What's up, Sean?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I have seen in a while, Missy on the NBA
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Chad hoop ball as well, when it comes to things
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: like that, Like, first of all, I don't think Clarkson's
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be out there for blowout. Me he's upper thirty now,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: they're not going to be playing him ten minutes in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a blowout. But also when you are talking about a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: slate this big and you're trying to make cases for
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: guys that are playing and blowout, I think you're I
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: honestly personally think you're playing it wrong. Like it's the
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: guy like Jamal shed but like, right, a case are.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Going to get wrong? Yeah right, yeah, sorry, go ahead.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: No, you just can't.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You can't get much wrong on this on the slate,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: like you have to. Your entire roster needs to be
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: filled up with high confidence plays and then maybe one
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: or two guys that are like pivots or your low
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: owned option.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The point I was making with Chad was just
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: like I think he looks okay as is like, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: then if there's a blowout run, he might get a
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: couple more minutes like not like looking to play him,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: and he'll really only get there in a blowout, which
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: isn't the case for Clarkson either. But I think that
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: was kind of how the question was intended.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: All right, So this is the game with I would say,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the most or at least the second most important injury
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: news in the slates. San Antonio Spurs heading into Cleveland
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: as five ish point underdogs. Here we have an out
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: tag or out tags on obviously Wemby and Sefon Castle still,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: but they will be without Luke Cornette tonight. To slide
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: somebody into the starting lineup, there's a couple of ways
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you could go. I think that probably the most obvious
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: choice would be I don't know if it is Kelly LINOK.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It might be Jeremy Soshan. They've been running him more
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: as the backup center as of late, So I feel
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: like there's probably a seventy percent, maybe sixty percent chance
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it's Sochan, thirty percent chance it's Kelly Olinok, maybe thirty
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: five percent chance it's a Linic, and then maybe a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: five percent chance it's something weird like Bismack Biambo. They've
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: done stuff like that in the past. I still feel
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like it's Socian and Kelly Linox splitting the center minutes
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: the most. I'll let you break that down. But we
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: do have also a really big q TAG mid day
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: downgrade on Evan Mobley with the illness, which guy's missing
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: shoot around with an illness? I feel like is leaning
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: more towards a doubtful side of things. So how would
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you approach this game? If Sochan were to be starting,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: would that change your outlook on Olnic at all?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it has to change your outlook, like
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: especially someone like Olenick, but still going to play him
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: at thirty two hundred, like, I'll play both of them together.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'd feel better about it if it's Olynic starting and
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: so Hand coming off the bench, like, but I'll still
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: play both of them regardless. I think I do think
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: that Olinic becomes risky and thinner than obviously he otherwise
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: would be on a massive slate depending on what other
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: value comes. I think sohn At, you know, thirty four
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: hundred with power forward eligibility is the lack no matter what.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Olinic if he's starting, is a guy I'll play, you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: in all three my lineups. If he's not again, I'll
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: still play them both together, but I you know, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: won't play one hundred percent o Linic. Is that how
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: you see it?
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, I agree.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: If Olynic's off the bench, it's a little it's just
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a little scary because the minutes have been down in
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: a really big way as of late. I think that
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: they would have to play him like eighteen minutes, which
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: would be totally fine for somebody that's a good permanent
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: producer like Kelly O.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Linock.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: But if he's starting and we're getting like I projected,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two minutes from him, he's great because
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: we're still getting backup run from Socian and some overlap
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: between the two. So I would prefer a Linux starting,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and then I would just feel very confident about playing
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Socian and Olinic and a lot of line ups together.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: So to answer coach to have his question, it's dependent
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: on I think it's fine regardless to play them even
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: if Sochin starting, but totally fine if Kelly Olinic is starting, Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: It way more. If Olynic is starting just because man
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the center spot, like you kind of mentioned it a
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: couple of minutes ago when we got that Clarkson question.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: You need to nut everything on this late certainly to
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: like take it down. So like there are multiple mid
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: tier centers that are gonna smash tonight, like eight and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: for example all of a sudden, Like if you play
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: a Linic off the bench and he plays fifteen minutes
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: and gets you like fifteen fantasy points, that's not the
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: worst points per dollar score, but you're almost drawing dead
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: there when a guy like eight or Durham go for
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: fifty plus. So yeah, I'll feel a lot better about
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it if Olynics starting, which I don't think he is either,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: so not exactly sure how I'm gonna play it right now,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: like he still is thirty two hundred, but yeah, makes
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the waters a little more murky.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I could already.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I could see it now where Olynic maybe doesn't play
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the first quarter and then plays like a six minute
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: rotation in each like the second and the fourth or
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: something like that, and they play they somehow run out
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: of Bismack for like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Specially six minutes.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Well, also like Cleveland if they're missing Mobley here, like
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: change already, know Allen, like they could run real small,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: so like that might change, Like it just might change everything,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: especially because Sohan is already a small center, So yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: this game might just play small.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good point because if Mobley is out,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think that we're all of a sudden getting
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: like twenty plus minutes from Thomas Bryant because they haven't
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: really shown a willingness to play him a lot this season,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: So it would.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Probably be going.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, same right there with you man.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that I mean that would be really good
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: for for Socian, So I would be I guess you
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: got really got to pay attention to that because it
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: does matter who's starting for the Spurs. The more that
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: we talked through it, I would I would be a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: little bit more worried if if Olinic is off the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: bench and it's so chance starting.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: The other part of this is like Olinic is gonna
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: be one of not the highest home player on the slate,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: So like there's someone to be said for getting away
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: from that. Certainly if he's not starting, and his ownership
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: will come down, but probably not as much as it should.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I'd see people being slow to react
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: there because you are like, this is the second lock
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: time of the slates, you could already be locked into
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I mean probably not locked into too many spots because
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: it's just Lakers, Boston, Miami, Orlando first. But people might
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: be a little more unwilling to move off of Olinic
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: just because it's gonna change your entire roster construction.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Totally good point, man, good point, Like there aren't gonna
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: be a there isn't a guy to pivot to awful Linix,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: so people are much more likely, Like people are are
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: not likely to late swap to begin with, but as
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: far as late swapping goes, they're much more likely to
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: make one for one swaps than they are like reconstructing
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: their entire lineup. Great point.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you pulled that out of me. I didn't.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I wasn't even thinking about that. I think it's a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: good point that you made. Just the game environment could
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: really there's a couple of ways that it could go.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: So I guess we talk about the Cleveland stuff. Now
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: feels like Moby is closer to the DUBTFHL side. Like
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I mentioned, the illness tag. Midday downgrade is never a
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: good thing, so I mean, we're probably gonna expect a really,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: really heavy dosage of Donovan Mitchell. I mean, they got
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to no offense to your Cavs, but they are asking
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of Donovan Mitchell this season. I mean there's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a sitting out games. I mean, this guy's not old,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: but he's missing so many games back to backs, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Donovan's out there put his life on the line again.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of his his jazz days
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: when they didn't really give him a ton of hope.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny too, because like this team has a
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: lot of talent, but they seem complacent. They came into
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: the season wanting to make Mobley like the number one option.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Six games in they fell off of that. Garland and
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I'm here and here like he's just never going to
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: be fully healthy, So that stinks. Obviously they're missing strus.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Jalen Tyson, second year guy, called out the Cavs in
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: a major way after I think, I don't know if
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: there's their last loss to Toronto and they ended up
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: playing well against Indiana the next game, but then austin
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Portland at home, his team's inconsistent. But you know the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: other side of the coin is they started off so
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: hot last year and fiddled in the playoffs, maybe this
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: is what they needed. I don't think this team is
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: like as constructed good enough to win the title or
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: even I don't know if they're good enough to make
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: it out of the East right now, but certainly Donovan
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Mitchell's played like a top ten player in the game,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: and with Mobley out here and what should be a
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: competitive game, I think he looks I don't think he
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: looks as good as Reeves, which sounds weird to say,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: but I think he looks close enough where he's like
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: a top five play on the slate, especially if Mobley's out.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree there.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I mean the numbers are they get really nutty for
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Donoan Mitchell when you take off all these guys off
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the court, like literally it's Jokic wemby Y honest levels
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: of permanent production, albeit in a small sample sub one
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: hundred minutes. But I mean the fantasy point from numbers
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: are literally at one point nine to two fantasy points
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: per minute. Like the assists numbers are way up there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's thirty eight percent assists forty percent usage rates,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So it's like it's not surprising to see him have
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a massive role with those guys out because he has.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: To literally do everything.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: But I also don't think that he's going to be
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: a one point nine fantasy point minute producer, but probably
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: more in like the one point five to one point
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: six range, which is really good for his price seg
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I would say the one thing that really stinks on
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: this slate is I I agree with you, like he's
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: not as good as Reeves, but he's not.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Very far off.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Like I'd want to play him and Reeves as my
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: two guards, but they're both only shooting guard eligible now,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: which is it's not bad, but it's not great either.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it stinks as far as rocket construction goes. Maybe
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: it limits the ownership of both of them together, which
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: is why I still likely will play them together. But honestly,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: just like talking this out a little with you, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: like this game a lot, especially I from Mobley is
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: out perspective. San Antonio kind of going off what we
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: just said with the Olinic, sohan if Olynic doesn't get
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: more run, maybe this game plays small. I think it
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: benefits like all the San Antonio guys who have good tags.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Keldon Johnson at fifty one hundred, Dylan Harper forty seven hundred,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: like Devin Vassell, who I hate right now because that
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: swap costs me massively the other night, but still fifty
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: nine hundred for Vassell, Like Deanaron Fox. I like this game,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: and then obviously everyone on Cleveland is going to become
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: more in play with MOBILEI out Mitchell we talked about.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I think the next guy is, honestly, Jalen Tyson. I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: really like what I've seen from him this year. He
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: does a little bit of everything, really good position, eligibility,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: shooting guard, small forward. The price tag is up there,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: but he's so much of an unknown that I don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: even know if he's like overpriced, he might be underpriced,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: he might be fairly priced. But yeah, if Mobile's out
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: in this spot, I want him.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. He looks really good. Just
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: as an overall NBA player, it looks like I feel
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: like he's playing beyond his experience level right now, just
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: playing really well. Kenny Atkinson loves him too, so I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: think he's going to play him a ton of minutes regardless,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and you take away the rebounding upside of Moble, it's
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: got to go to somebody.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I feel like he takes a lot of that.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Obviously, Hunter would be a guy that would benefit. You'll
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: probably get into two, like at least two of these
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Cleveland guys when Mobile gets ruled out. So I definitely
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: like a lot of them, like even naikwant Toman who
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: comes into play. Craig Porter Jr. Is going to be
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: asked to do a lot, and we've seen what he
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: can do in the minutes that he provides, so it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a really, really good spot. I guess I want to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: talk through the groups real quick because I think it
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: does matter for the Cleveland stuff. I doubt we get
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a ton of overlap between the Mitchell, Lonzo, and Craig
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Porter Junior grouping. So I would say max two of
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: those three if you want to be more aggressive and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: be Max one Craig Port Junior and Lonz.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate that.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: But we have seen Lonzo can touch thirty minutes when
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: things go right for him, So I don't know if
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Set that role.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Probably be Max two mostly and then probably Max two
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: of the Hunter, Tyson, Tomlin, Dean Wade grouping. If you've
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: add in Thomas Bryan, I don't know if you if
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: he's really in play, unless he's starting, then I would
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: throw him in there as well. And then the spur
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: stuff I kind of gloss over because we did spend
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: some time on the value plays, But I do I
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm a little bit less in trigged
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: about Bassell, but I do like dearon Fox. Just imagine
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that the the matchup, we can only get a lot better.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: As Evan Mobley misses this game, the room protection is
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: going to get a lot worse. Drive heavy guard guy
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that's been pretty solid from a permanent basis with all
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: these guys off the court of the season, so he
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: looks like a guy that has some unknown upside at
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: really low ownership, So I'd be fine get into some
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of him.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Then.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I also think these wings are kind of interesting, the Kelden, Harrison, Barnes,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: and Champannee grouping. Champenne is a guy that also kind
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: of profiles as like a like a Jalen Tyson light
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: in some ways. He's a guy that just will randomly
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: hit for double doubles. And I think that taking a
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: guy that Luke Cornette off the court really could help
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: him from a rebund perspective, the usage does trend up
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: in a pretty decent way fantasy porn for a minute
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: around one point one, and definitely should see close to
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes. So I think he's kind of sneaky as
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a as a mid tier value, low owned option. And
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: then if we knew Dylan Harper was getting twenty five
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: minutes to night, which I don't think he is because
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: they said he's not in NBA shape right now, then
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I think he'd be a really really good option because
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: he's a he's an absolute stud in the making. So
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: though to your point, yeah, for sure, but yeah, really
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: really good game to get deep into. So definitely like
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: this one gonna be one you wait for the value
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: plays and the injury to see who's in and who's out.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Another game with pretty big injury implications is the Phoenix
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Suns at Houston, really big injuries on both sides. Actually,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: with Devin Booker out for I believe they said one
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: to two weeks, so we should see Grayson Allen back
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: into the starting lineup, Colin Gillespie starting at point guard now,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I've been playing great this season. Definitely have some interest
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: in him, and then Al Prince sing Gun was a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: midday down grade as well with an illness tag, so
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: another guy we can kind of expect to miss. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: think that this is a spot where I can see
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: myself getting too a good amount of Houston, because all
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: these guys would be really underpriced if Seguon were to miss.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot to like here, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: then I feel like there's a little bit of sneaky upside.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: The game total is one of the most unappealing ones
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: on the Slave, but when you take away guys like
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Booker and Sengoon, where there's a lot of fantasy points,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of usage to go around and mix, it
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: a lot more appealing. I don't think people want to
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: pay nearly seven K for con Gillespie, but I'd be
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: okay with it. I think he's been really, really good
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: this season. It was Royce O'Neil that led the team
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in the potential assists last game. But I feel like
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the more we see from this team with Booker out,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the more it's going to trend in Gillespie's favors.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I like him the most.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I think Brooks is a loaned option revenge game for him.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: He's had crazy usage numbers and taking a million shots
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: this season, so he'd be a guy that you should
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: feel fine getting to. But that's probably it. I think
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it's just those two for Phoenix. On the Houston side
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: is where it gets really interesting though. I think Kadi
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and Amen would be very good options. KD with the
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: dual position eligibility to now point guard small forward, Amen,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: a guy that was great last season without Sengoon, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: then even guys like Javari Smith, Reed Sheppard, Stemen Adams,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: and even Capella at three point six K, all these
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: guys would look really good. I feel like Steven Adams
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: becomes the best value playing the slate at four K
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: center eligible only, but he's a really good permanent producer
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and probably playing twenty five plus minutes, I would imagine,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So I'd want a lot of Steven Adams, and then
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I really like everything on Houston.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Honestly, once singing gets ruled out. How are you looking
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: at this game?
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very similarly, especially because like you know, we already
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: don't have Tarry Eason, so like they're thin there. I
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: agree with you on Steven Adams, but it just makes
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: all of Houston look really good. From Katie Aman, well,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Katie Jabari. You know, the big men obviously are gonna
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: look the best. Katie does a little bit of everything.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's just tough because like Katie at eighty one hundred
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: will be underpriced for sure. But we've already talked about
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: like Reeves and Mitchell, who we like a lot. You know,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: those guys aren't cheap. Roster construction is going to be
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: interesting tonight. I can tell you right now I'm probably
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: out on jokicch just from talk in this out with you.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I think there's just too many good plays in the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: mid to high end tonight that I don't really want
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: to allocate those funds on Jokic at least as of
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: right now. And those good plays include guys like Katie.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I think aman Thompson would get up like
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: everyone on Houston would get a bump. So I'm in
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: on Houston. Would like a lot of them, All of
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: them would be in play because they're just too cheap
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: for Shingoon being out from the Phoenix side, probably less
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: excited about playing Gillespie at seven K than you are,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: but I get it. No one's gonna want to play him,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: so that makes sense. I think I'm most in on Brooks.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: You talked about the usage, you know, I like him
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: going back to Houston here. I don't think there's anyone
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: that's a must from Houston, even with Booker out, because
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: the tags look fair, like six k for Royce O'Neil,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's ever a bargain, you know, seven
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: k for Gillespie. They had time to price up Phoenix,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: whereas a team like Houston, if Sengoon is out, obviously
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: they're not priced accordingly. So I think Houston looks a
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: lot better than Phoenix, the Booker being my favorite piece
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: of the suns.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yep, I could not agree more with you there. I would,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I would be cautious about doing that. I mean, you're
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: tying up pretty much sixty percent of your salary between
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: three guys.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the way you want to go tonight.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: There's not there's not a slate where we have a
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: bunch of min price point guards and centers that are
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: slam dunk value plays. I don't know if I would
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: suggest doing that. Yeah, I looked at the I don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: think those first projections are correct right now. We're going
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: to run a an updated projection as we get off
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the show more than likely. All right, do you want
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to do a quick ranking of your Houston because it
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: feels like a spot that's gonna be unavoidable once you
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: get to once we get the same good news.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think as of right now, again, i'd
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: want to wait. This isn't anything set in the stone.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I don't want to wait for projections and stuff to
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: like allocate. But I think Adams to your point, like
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: four K big minute bomb would be my favorite, just
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: because he'd probably the easiest to get to, even at center.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I think KD would be my second favorite. Really good
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: position eligibility, you know, can play them at five different spots.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Good tag, I think, then Jabbari just because I think
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: he gets a bump just more rebounding, acuity, equity, more
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: scoring like everything. Then Amen, then Shepherd than everyone else,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: how about you?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Steven Adams kind of on an island, so I won't
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: really group him into that, But I think for me,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I would have it KD as well as number one, Amen,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: number two, and then I would say, yeah, I mean
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: kind of the same thing. I think Jabari and Reid
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: are I would say neck and neck for the third spot,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: we should get read starting again, which is pretty interesting.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: He came off the bench last time out, but I
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: feel like that was more more matchup base. I feel
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: like he's back in the starting line up. I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: all these guys see pretty meaningful boosts. They gotta take
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: it with a little bit of a grain of salt,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: because it could either be a really small minute sample
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: for a guy like KD or a different scenario for
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: a guy like Reed Shepherd where a lot of his
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: production last year and or the last two years kind
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: of come with the blowout concern or with games where
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: he's playing a lot of minutes due to blowout. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be reading too much into it. But all
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: these guys are going to look really good. I definitely
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: agree with you. O. KD one on into Jabari Reid three.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: All right, next game Philly at Milwaukee. Two big injury
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: tags in this one with the and beat stuff and
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: beat it's gonna be out again just injury maintenance. Paul
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: George will be back and then ye honest obviously out
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: for the next two to four weeks. So we have
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: to see what Doc Rivers decides to do with the
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: starting lineup. Another game, or a team where there's a
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: few ways they could go. We did see Jericho Sims
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: filling in a really big way, which kind of came
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. I don't know if the necessarily need
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: him in this spot in particular, because it's not they're
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: not really going up against like an elite center on
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the other side, and they don't really need a ton
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: of size. You're kind of shrinking the floor adding him
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: out there with a guy that really is just like
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a pick and roll dunker guy. So I think that
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: they probably go back to Kuzma or Bobby Portis at
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the power forward spot. If it's Portos, I'd have some
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: interest because we know what he can do, But I
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: don't think I really want to get to Kuzma. That's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: probably by me at the end of the slate because
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: we've seen what he can do when nobody plays him.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: But obviously there's a ton of users to go around
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee stuff. I think it's pretty clearly Ryan
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Rawlins and Kevin Porter Junior has the two best options.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I think KPJ is kind of I mean, he might
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: be one of the best pointy dollar plays in the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: entire slate really quick ramp up from the knee injury
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: that held him out for like a month. But he's
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: he's always been a guy that's really good from a
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: point per minute standpoint, you look at the numbers. It's
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a little different situation for Ryan Rawlins because a lot
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: of his games without Giannis also came without KPJ. And
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: adding KPJ back guy that can't take wish and usage,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: a guy that does a lot of the lot of
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: similar things that Ryan Rawlins does on offense could take
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: away from them. But I mean the role was essentially
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: split down the middle between those two guys last game,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: so we know that the offense is going to run
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: through them. Ryan Rawlins had a six point four minutes
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of touch time to KPJ six minutes. Both had sixteen
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: potential assist. KPJ is a slightly better permitt player, but
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: that's the smaller sample, so I think it's if anything
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: close to even, but you are getting a thirteen hundred
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: dollars discount spinning down for KPJ, so I prefer him
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: over Ryan Rawlins, but I'm fine with both these guys.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Don't think you need to set a rule to be
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: max one because I could see both of them getting there,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: But I think it's KPJ kind of clearing away of
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: the number one option there for Milwaukee Philly. I don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: see anything as a priority right now. Obviously love Tyger's Maxie.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It's a good matchup, but he's almost eleven case, so
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: we're gonna need sixty plus from him, which he's done.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: But there's some really good point guard options. I don't
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: think that you need to go to MAXI tonight. What
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: do you what are you thinking about this game?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean from the jump, its obviously KPJ looks
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: like I mean, he's gonna be owned. Is the best
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: player on the slate. I'm seeing him come in and
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: as the highest known player on the entire slate doesn't
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: give me the warm and fuzzies to be to be
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: quite frank, but you know, projects for forty plus across
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: the industry at sixty six hundred, so I get it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: You know, there's like term expansive and restrictive chalk, Like
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say he's restrictive, but he's certainly not expansive
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: at sixty six hundred on this big of a slate, Like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: you know, if he's really gonna be sixty to seventy
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: percent owned. Like again, that doesn't give me the warm
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: and fuzzies. But I don't think there's like guys in
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: his range that like Project nearly as well as him.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a simple case of like
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pivot off him. I think there are
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: certainly ways to build good lineups without him in it,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: and different type of roster constructions. But start playing only
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: one lineup right now, I'd have a hard time not
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: playing him. You know, Rollin's not as interested in in
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: interested in in because he's thirteen hundred more and to
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: your point, like he was playing so well without KPJ.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: So I think KPJ is the lead dog there. You're
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: obviously gonna get a big ownership discount, but you should be.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's KPg for me. And then if Portis
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: is starting, Portis, but if he's not, probably just KPJ.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I do think Portas is cheap enough where off the
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: bench he's still in play, But if he's starting, he's
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: a smash for me here, that's kind of it. I
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: don't really like the Philly side, even though I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: they you know, I think this game's competitive. I don't
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: think Philly plays bad here. I just think the tags
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: are where they should be. You've talked about it with MAXI,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: so really, as of like this moment, it's probably KPJ
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: or Bust for me. Maybe portis.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree with you there.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I think that the main appeal for playing a guy
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: like Ryan Rowlins would be the ownership. I mean forty
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: percent like you said on KPJ versus five ish on
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Ryan Rowlins, Like we've seen him have a pretty big upside,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: but you are paying the thirteen hundred dollars more.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: The Collins is a great one fifty play.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I don't think you like we said,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need some Max one them because
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a probably an outside chance that
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: both them could get there.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: It's just the tags, man, Like, it's just hard on
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: this slate. Like I agree with you, I don't think
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: there's a reason you have to set a rule. I
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: just can't imagine you would get to that many together,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: just because I don't know how good Rollins himself looks.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes so much more sense. Like we
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: said with Donovan Mitchell and Austin Reeves, being the two
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: clear best guard options. Tonight, I would say KPg up
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: there as well, but like it's really easy to go
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: KPJ point guard, Reeves shooting guard, and then Donvin Mitchell
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: at guard. Like that's that feels like a pretty strong
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: starting point and then filling in the value wherever else
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: you need to. All right, next game, I got two
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: left approaching an hour. This one shouldn't take very long, though.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Clippers at Memphis I think that this one is one
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: of the least appealing ones on the slate. Clippers obviously
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: got the win in Atlanta. I still think that this
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: is a very bad team, very poorly constructed roster that
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: is not very good on defense, and they're just old.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And Memphis has sneakily been playing a lot better on defense.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of that is due to having
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Zach Edy out there and not having John Ran out there.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: I think helps them a lot, But they still have
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: some issues with the on ball stuff. Bottom seven pick
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: and roll defense, but a very very good rebounding team,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: So I think that kind of takes away the appeal
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: from ib Ka Zubach who's getting a little bit of ownership,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: but he protects fine. I prefer getting to one of
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: James Harden or Kawhi Leonard, and I personally would set
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: a max one rule those two. With their prices being
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: this close, I don't know if I necessarily prefer one
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: over the other. I think they each have upside in
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: this matchup. They both did pretty well last time out.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: James Harden played forty minutes in that game, put up
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a double double fifty three points two five DK points.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Reasonable price sec for him at nine point two k
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: good matchup for a guy that scores a lot and
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: pick and roll, so he's got a lot going for him.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And then the thing for Kawhi is that he's been
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: really efficient scoring the ball this season. Took twenty four
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: shots in just twenty nine minutes the last time these
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: teams played, but he did play thirty five minutes in
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: a game versus Atlanta where they were winning pretty handily
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: the entire time, So I think they we kind of
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: mentioned it the last time we did a show, or
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: at least last time I was on a show. With
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the Kawhi stuff, We're going to start to see the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: minutes get up to full, and I think that he's
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: kind of there now, So I think I feel like
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: thirty four is probably the median to floor for him,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and then we have upside for thirty six to thirty
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: seven in close games, which this one projects to be.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So I like both those guys for those reasons. I
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: think that Collins and Done kind of just fill in
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: his last man inside plays nobody you really need to
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: get to Memphis, I think is a full X out
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: for me. I don't really like anything on that side
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: you liking anything else in this game.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I don't love this game, but I do like kawhi
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: uh to everything you said eight k uh You know,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: when he's on the court, he's playing really well right now.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: So I like Kauai here. I like the tag, I
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: like the positional eligibility. I don't like love the spot,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: but I don't hate the spot. So I'm in on
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Kauai Zubach I'm fine with, and I think that's probably
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: it hard and just hard to get up to on
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: this slate with the other guards we've talked about, will
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: be really really low owned, I imagine, but just you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't project amazing compared to those other guys. Maybe he
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: won't be as low owned as I thought, So I
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: guess Hard is a reasonable pivot off of like the
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Reeves and Mitchell at the same tag. Certainly I like
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Reeves and Mitchell a lot more, but you know, Harden's
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: got really high upside in his own right. So I
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: put him in like the Jalen Brunson bucket, you know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: not going out of my way to play them, but
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: certainly in play, especially if you're multi entering. Yeah, Harden
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: actually looks a little bit better than I thought based
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: on projections, So you know, again, I don't like him
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: more than Reeves or Mitchell, but I think he's a
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: one of the guys you can pivot off to and
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: feel pretty good about his upside. Kawhi I like, it's
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: a big three for the Clippers. For me, not really
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: interested in the other guys, and I don't think any
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: of the three Clippers are like I have to play them,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: but Kawhi is my favorite. Then Hard and then Zubach Memphis.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: I like the upside we've seen from Edie at times.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I don't love the spot against Zubat. I feel like
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Edie and Zoo and Zoo almost cancel each other out,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: so that's why I don't really want to play either
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be There'll be a fun game to watch
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: just to see how those two pair out, because I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: feel like they're so similar in.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: A lot of ways.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: It's just huge bodies, really good Uh well he's really
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: good rep Protective shop blocked, but both really good rebounders.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: I feel like they'll be a fun game to watch.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't think that we're really on the Memphis stuff.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Like we said a lot throughout this slade, you got
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to get everything right. Just feels a little too cute
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: going to Memphis personally.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: The one thing I will say I talked about it
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: with the ookis before we get to the last game,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: like and I was talking about it with Jokic fields
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: and I think are concentrated. I think just generally built
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: tonight are going to be very similar and getting off
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: that beaten path. Certainly you don't need to do that
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: with every spot, but like you know, you mentioned it
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: a couple of minutes ago, Porter Mitchell Reeves, I think
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: that's a very logical starting point that a lot of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: people are going to go with. Then you throw throw
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: it like so hand in La Ravia. Yeah, you only
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: got three other roster spots, like and we're trying to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: win tournaments here, so it might be the type of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: slate where you need to give up some projection at
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: one or two spots just to get away from the ownership.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I guess this would be the perfect time to plug
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: in the Sabersim stuff because that will definitely take in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: the SIMS, will take that into account. When you have
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a guy that's projected two or three points worse, you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: normally don't get the top projected team as the team
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: that sims the best. And that's a lot of that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: is due to ownership. So something to keep in mind
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: when you are using sabersim and running the SIMS there.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes, I don't is he. I don't think I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: think it's more than that, isn't he.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I think he's forty eight hundred.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so unless you're talking more than a vandal, yeah
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: he's he must be talking fandel because yeah, he's fourteen
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. More so, it's a we talked about it
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: a lot when the people ask these one v ones.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: It's a different build more so than a one v one.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: All right, last game on the slate, India at Chicago
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of injury news on the Chicago side that
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: honestly could shake things up, maybe not too much. If anything,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: it will just make guys like getting vouch look a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: little bit better. But take a deep breath of this one,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: because we've got a lot here so good. Doubtful tags
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  Speaker 2: on Icechoo, Coro, Trade Jones, and Jalen Smith, Kevin Hurder
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  Speaker 2: is out, Questionable tags on Kobe White, Io, and Zach Collins.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: It sounds like Zach Collins is pretty close to returning.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: As for Kobe White and Io, not too sure. Kobe
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: White another guy dealing with the cap strain, so it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: could be something that they proceed with a lot of caution.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: If anything, If he plays, I'd imagine it's going to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: be on a fairly strict minutes restriction after not playing
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: most of the beginning of the season, then getting ramped
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: up pretty quickly and then injured again, so I'd imagine
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: he's somewhat limited. For Io, I believe it's a thumb sprain,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: so something that if he can play, he's probably not
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: limited too much. If anything, it's just going to to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: affect how he actually plays in the game, you know,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: shooting and dribbling all that stuff because it is his
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: shooting hand, so that would take a little bit of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: appeal away from him, I guess if you're kind of
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: looking to that stuff. But for Indy, same stuff as
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: always to get the Nie Smith, Quynn Jackson Obi are
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be out obviously, Halliburton done for the season, but
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Ben Shephard is out tonight with a capstrain another capturing
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: So Jaris Walker should step back from the starting lineup
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: and probably at less risk of losing minutes if it
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: were to come from somebody, maybe one of like the Furfey,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Garrison Matthews or Jeremiah Robinson Earl. I do see that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Jerris Walker was getting a decent bit of ownership the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: last time I checked. Yeah, twenty two percent ish on sabersim.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: So could make the case of fad somebody like that.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: He's pretty cheap and does have a pretty solid upside
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: in a game that should be fast paced and high scoring.
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  Speaker 4: The last time these teams.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Face I was all over it, and I think it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: was like a one oh one to one on three games,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: just so there wasn't a ton of fantasy scoring to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: go around. I think that it could turn around here,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: But the Bulls have looked pretty bad defensively. Both these
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: teams kind of get beat the same way to really
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: bad room defenses. The Pacers, I believe, were bottom six
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: in our bottom seven and points allowed at the rim,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: and they teams are shooting at the room at the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: sixth highest frequency, So a good spot for a Bulls
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: team that shoots a lot at the rim. And then
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: same for the Bulls defensively. They allowed the second most
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: rim points and allow teams to get to the basket
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: at the second high three against them. So a lot
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: of the same thing here for Indy. Actually, you hit
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: on this one, I'll go after you.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think from the Indie side, like this is a game,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: like another one of these games where I want to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: like it, I think more than I actually do. I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: like the Indie side more than Chicago as of right now.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: That could change if, like all these Chicago guys are out,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: But as of like this show, this moment in time,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I think a few guys from Indiana are at least
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: in play. You know you talk about Jarris Walker great
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: positional eligibility, wildly in play for me, all four mats
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: is forty two hundred. You know, I don't hate TJ.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: McConnell at forty seven hundred. Don't love it either on
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: this slate, but I think it's a different type of build,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: especially with all the guards we've talked about. You know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam price tag continues to fall a little bit.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: I never love playing him, but you know, if this
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: game does turn around, like he's the top piece of
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Indiana even though he's the most expensive. You know, Benny
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Math always has upside, Like I think all these guys
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: are in play, but none of them are like priorities
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: for me, except for maybe Jerris just because of his
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: price tag and positional eligibility. The Chicago side is really
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: hard to break down, Like if these guys are all in,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: even though they have a bunch of guys out, I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: don't even anything here like the price tags or where
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: they should be, especially if Kobe White is in, if
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: he's out, like he's the main one. If he ends
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: up being out, then all the guys get a boost,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: like they're already kind of priced for him to be out,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: but still a good spot. So giddy at ten k.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: You know, Boozell Less is sixty two, who we both
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: like last slate Io if he's in, you know, if
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: they're both out, Javon Carter at thirty six hundred will
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: begin to look in play. But like, these aren't guys
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: that I ever love playing, So I don't know, man,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Like I want to like this more than I do.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agree with you on the indie stuff. I think
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Jerris Walker and TJ are very much in play for
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: some value tonight. I kind of really like SIA come tonight.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm normally in the guy that's you're going around. Yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I'm normally really against him.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: But I really really love big men against the bulls.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mainly mainly those wings like they've been getting
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: killed by guys like Siakam. I mean you, I don't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: think that MPJ and Siakam are very similar, but you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: look at what MPJ just did against them. They I mean,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: this bull team is lost on defense right now, they are.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: They look terrible on defense. I really want to lean
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: into a guy like Siakam that the price is coming down.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Eight point five K is good and he had a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: pretty solid out in the last time they faced. I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: believe it was fairly recently too. Maybe less No a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: week ago. Yeah, they played on the twenty ninth, played
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: thirty six minutes. In that game, forty nine DK points
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: fell one rebound shy of the double double bonus, that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: would have put him at like fifty three ish, which
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: would be I think you'd be very happy with that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: at a point five K. So I like Siakam a
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: good bit tonight. I think Mathrin is okay. Price is
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: getting up there, good need really efficient scoring with the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: team getting healthier is kind of taking away some of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: his usage upside. And then for nem Hard, I don't
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be pairing him with TJ. And it's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: also really strong point guard slates. I probably he might
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: be the guy that I don't get a ton of, which.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I might, I don't know.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I feel okay about that, but he's I do like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the matchup for him a good bit. And then I
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: want to like Jay Huffalt. It's obviously a great matchup.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: He's just not separating from Isaiah Jackson enough from a
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: minute standpoint to be super viable.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Power forward eligibility.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Definitely helps and needs smash the last time these teams face,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: But he's all I mean, you're probably getting twenty five
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: max from him from a minute standpoints, I don't think
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be prioritizing him as much as I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: am Siakam, And then like Jars Walker as well for Chicago,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I and for the most part agree with you. I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: think Giddy's kind of in play regardless, but he can
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: only get better. Same thing for Vouch strong center slate,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: so he probably probably be another guy that you're overlooking.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: But with Kobe and Ile missing, they will definitely run
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: a lot more of their offense through Vouch and it's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: a really good matchup rebounding. The Pacers are one of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: the worst rebounding teams in the league, so he could
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: get some upside there, but they're also terrible at packing
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: the pain in defending the rims, so good scoring upside
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: for a Vouch. And then, like you said, Buzillis he
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: would get a little bit better a little scarier there
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: because he failed in a big way and Billy Donovan
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: has a really really short lease for him, so I'd
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: be a little nervous about playing him because I'm not
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: expecting thirty six minutes. I think that's within the range
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: of outcomes, and if he does do that, he could
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: really smash. I'd want to get some of him, assuming
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: some of these questionable attags were to be out. But
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, it does make it a little
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: bit tougher to get to these guys, even if you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: take away Kobe, Like, the prices are pretty fair on
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: those guys.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: All right, So that will do it.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: This would be about the time that hamiwhich would ask
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: for a play of the day from me if you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: have anything. I know that we got our cores and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: stuff on the side, but this is a free show,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: so we'll give the people what they want and I'll
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: put you on the.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Spotlight a little bit. Give me a.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Sub sub nine K player that's going to go off
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: at low ish ownership.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I'll better go way lower than that. It's a guy
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: he kind of talked about in passing, and this is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: kind of under the presumption he starts and with his
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: minutes last game, I think it's a possibility tonight Bobby Portis,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: but the cheapest we're gonna get him at late start
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: time for that game, I don't even think he gets
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: a ton of ownership if he starts, and if he does,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: he has easy ten x upside at fifty four hundred,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: So Bobby Portis is my answer there.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: I like the thirty minutes last game against Detroit. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: feel like this matchup is fairly similar.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: That was like after they got shellacked in the first
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: half too, and I think he was a big part
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: of their comeback.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just don't.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: It's weird how Doc just refuses to give him a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: ton of minutes because he's clearly a pretty solid backup
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: behind Yanna. So I definitely agree with you there. I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: think Bobby Portis is a guy that could very very
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: well go Overlook tonight.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: So I like that call.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: For me.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be it's gonna be Kevin Durant, assuming that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: ownership stays somewhat low. I don't know exactly how high
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: it would get to if and when the Sengun news comes.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I hope that it comes post lot because I'm gonna
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: be building as if he's out and this game is
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: at eight pm, so you won't really have a ton
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: of ways to pivot there, So i'd be I'm gonna say,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. I think April one K with the small
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: forward eligibility is really big. That's going to make it
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: really easy for me to play three of KD. Reeves
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: and Donovan Mitchell. I like, I like starting with those
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: guys for sure, But all right, that is going to
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: do it. I appreciate you again, Matt for moving some
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: things around. Hopefully the back feels better. We get you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: back on the normal schedule next week. But hopefully everybody
• 1:11:33
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• 1:11:38
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• 1:11:44
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• 1:12:00
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• 1:12:02
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