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US Open Highlights, Bryson DeChambeau, and the Future of PGA Track Two Events · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  I love Bryson DeChambeau, but he needs to just stick to YouTube golf at this point.
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  Well, and you know what?
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  It may not be, I mean, obviously, the purses that you're shooting in there, but also going
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  and playing in the majors bolsters your YouTube presence.
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  Right?
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  So, it is no fault to go and to play
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  in
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  the majors and use that for the national television plug.
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  More people exposed to your name.
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  They look you up.
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  They find you on YouTube.
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  Not a terrible thing.
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  It's no different than what we do.
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  Right?
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  Hello, and welcome, everyone.
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  This is Pods Plays Golf from the Scratch Project and the Scene Projects Sports Network,
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  and this is Day Two recap of the US Open.
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  You can get by, honey.
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  It's okay.
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  She went to go get some pizza.
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  So Wyndham Clark, minus one today, came back down to earth.
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  I didn't think there'd be a chance at another minus seven or minus six day, and he's still
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  four strokes ahead of the pack, which has quite a few people at minus three.
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  Notably, Xander Schauffele, Matt Fitzpatrick, and, hold on, Tom Kim, Xander Schauffele.
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  Collin Morikawa was at six with a minus two overall right now.
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  He's having a minus five day.
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  Xander had a minus four day to get him to minus three.
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  And I'm going to bring in someone who has been missing for a little bit.
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  So welcome back to the Scratch Project and joining me for the US Open recap of Day Two,
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  Mister Bubba Startz.
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  How's it going, man?
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  Haven't seen you in a minute.
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  Hey.
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  Good to see you.
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  Good to be here.
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  Love it.
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  I was just finishing up my supper, buddy, so glad we could be here.
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  Yeah.
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  Will Clark just continued.
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  I mean, only shot minus one today.
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  But hey.
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  Shot consistent, safe, steady golf after shooting a minus six.
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  And pods, we've been busy all day with, like, our county celebration thing, but course
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  conditions, I mean, nobody's shooting astronomically low.
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  Right?
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  This course is just tough.
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  If you're off the fairway and you're in that fescue, you will be blowing your whole
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  tournament.
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  Right?
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  I mean, it can go from bad to really bad to taking a short flight home today.
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  What did the cut line end up?
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  Are they finished?
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  I don't know if they're finished yet, but from what I was seeing earlier in the day, it looks
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  like the cut line could be anywhere from plus four to plus five.
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  It's really barely—there's been some scores.
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  Let me tell you.
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  Bryson, he was minus one, minus two yesterday.
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  Now he's plus five.
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  Yeah.
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  Some plus sevens.
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  Koepka shot a plus seven today.
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  You gotta imagine he's definitely missing the cut at 10 over.
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  So no repeat at Shinnecock for Koepka.
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  And there's no repeat for J.J.
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  Spaun either, the defending U.S.
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  champion, because I think he's plus seven right now.
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  So here, I'm gonna look at the score real quick and, or, you know, let's just put it this way.
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  So we've got four guys tied for second, notably of those guys, Morikawa, Schauffele, and Matt
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  Fitzpatrick.
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  Today, Schauffele shot a 66 or 69 at minus four to get him to minus three overall.
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  So he went from plus one to minus three.
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  So he moved, which is good.
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  Collin Morikawa, though, is a huge story because he's at minus two tied, but he shot
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  minus five today.
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  So he was two over to start the day.
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  Yeah.
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  Three over.
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  Three over to start the day.
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  Yeah.
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  So, yeah, some guys that moved put themselves in a position.
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  Justin Thomas.
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  I mean, and the way that the course is playing, anybody that's in that if you're even or better
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  right now.
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  Let's just put it this way.
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  Even's eleventh place.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  You're Scheffler and Rory right there.
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  You were in striking range because, you know, Wyndham Clark is one shot.
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  And everyone's one shot away from their tournament flipping on its head completely.
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  Right?
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  And that just speaks to the level of difficulty that Shinnecock Hills is.
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  Just absolutely incredible.
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  Hey, Scotland.
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  Hi.
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  Hello.
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  Just to put this into context too, Bubba.
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  So at 73 is plus five, and DeChambeau's there at 73, and that might be the cut line.
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  I can look up what the current cut line is right now because they're not showing it, but
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  let me see.
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  U.S.
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  Open.
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  It sure looks like everybody oh, no.
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  There's one person left on there.
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  Onish So the official cut line is four is plus four.
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  So Bryson's going home for another major, my friend.
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  I'm sorry.
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  Yeah.
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  I Bryson, I love Bryson DeChambeau, but he needs to just stick to YouTube golf at this
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  point.
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  Well, and you know what?
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  It may not be I mean, obviously, the purses that you're shooting in there, but also going
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  and playing in the majors bolsters your, bolsters your YouTube presence.
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  Right?
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  So, it is no fault to go and to play in the majors and use that for the national television
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  plug.
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  More people exposed to your name.
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  They look you up.
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  They find you on YouTube.
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  Not a terrible thing.
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  It's no different than what we do.
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  Right?
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  Like, we're not pros and covering the NBA.
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  Won it twice, and he's just not looked the same anytime.
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  Here's the problem.
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  And this is where I think, like, hey.
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  Good for the public.
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  You know, any publicity is good publicity.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  But for him as a player because I really like Bryson.
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  He's my second favorite player behind Jon Rahm.
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  And I love how he is with the kids.
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  I love how he is with everyone.
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  He's a cool dude.
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  But he's not doing himself any favors by not even making it to the cut of these majors.
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  He hasn't made the cut in the last two majors.
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  I don't even think he made the cut for the Masters.
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  But he probably is, though.
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  Right?
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  Like, you can't buy the kind of publicity that this national coverage on these things brings.
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  And because he is such a big name, I don't think he's doing himself a disservice.
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  I don't think he was ever going to be someone that was hailed as one of the greatest of the
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  game, but you can be someone who advanced the game of golf.
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  You brought it to more people.
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  You grew the game of golf, whether it be, you know, in the pro ranks or, you know, in the
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  amateur ranks, you know, whatever you wanna call YouTube golf.
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  And you know what?
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  He's made a significant amount of money doing it, and he's probably making a huge load of
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  money on the side from the brand endorsements and things that he's getting out there.
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  So gee.
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  And if he's gonna come out and play four times a year and miss the cut, I'd take it.
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  Yeah.
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  But I guess from him being one of my favorites, though, it's just like, man, I expect so much
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  more of him because I've seen him when he's on.
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  Yeah.
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  And nobody can touch him when
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  these major courses play into his strengths.
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  Right?
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  Like, he needs
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  Well, that will be if any of the courses are going to.
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  Scramble out because he's gonna grip it and rip it, and he's gonna go wide right.
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  But he's also gonna bomb the ball 420 yards, if you know what I mean.
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  And there's just none of these major tournaments that really favor that kind of
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  play, right?
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  So could he go out and probably win some of these other tournaments and have those?
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  I mean, he's got his name on a couple of these, right?
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  He's won two, you said?
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  He's won two U.S.
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  Opens.
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  Yeah.
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  Good enough, man.
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  You got your name on the cup twice, right?
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  Like, what more do people need?
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  There are some guys that struggle their entire careers and never get to do that at any point.
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  Right?
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  So alright.
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  Some people struggle their entire careers just to get their only PGA win.
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  Right.
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  So and you talk about what he's created in the brand with, you know, the bug, the crusher.
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  I mean, just everything.
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  Everything around him.
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  I think he played it right knowing that his style of play was never going to put him in a
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  position to be a Tiger or a Rory in those grand slams.
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  I mean, it's fine.
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  You still get to go play the most beautiful courses, and everyone knows who you are.
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  I know, man.
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  But, dude, I know him.
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  I know how good he is, and it's just like, I wanna see him, like I wanna see him on top,
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  bro.
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  Bad golfer, but consistency has never been his game.
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  No.
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  And that's why he's my second favorite golfer behind Jon Rahm because Rahm is super
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  consistent.
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  Yeah.
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  Very mid for the last long time.
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  Do you think it's hurt Rahm to go over and to play lesser competition?
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  It's hurt both of these guys.
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  Right.
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  Well, and just to not be playing the same courses and being, you know, you're overseas
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  most of the time out there.
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  Where did Rahm end up on the leaderboard right now?
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  I guess I'm not
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  Rahm, last I checked I haven't checked him today, but he was in, like, a tie for seventh
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  at one point.
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  I don't know if he had a good round or if he blew up.
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  So let's see.
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  Looking for the Spaniard, and it ain't looking good.
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  No.
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  Tied 86th, plus eight.
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  He shot plus six today or plus eight today, plus six for the charge.
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  Jeez.
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  He's gone too.
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  Another.
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  That's another thing too, dude, is LIV is just not it's not the competition.
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  Like, another guy, Joaquin Niemann, who qualified for a major who's a LIV guy, he shot
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  a I think he shot a 10 on a hole today, a nine or a 10.
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  And he had a two-stroke penalty assessed because of something.
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  Those
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  are Pods plays golf scores.
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  Brother, don't even go there.
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  I shot a 10 today.
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  I shot a 10 on a par five today, and I shot 52 through the nine on the back.
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  And if I didn't have that blow up on that par five and I just shot bogey or double, I would
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  have finished in the 40s.
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  But I shot a freaking 10 because I'm just a mental midget.
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  Yeah.
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  That's alright.
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  We're we're not supposed to be good at this game.
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  I I don't what?
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  You've had, like, one half-ass lesson from a guy that you were playing with?
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  I've had two I've had, no, I've had two golf lessons from an actual pro, and it's helped us
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  this thing.
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  I've never
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  had any.
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  It's amazing to know.
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  Now I'm starting to miss left instead of right, so that's a thing.
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  I hit six fairways today out of nine, though, with my driver.
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  Go?
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  See, you play a lot too.
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  I'm jealous of that.
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  I get out and play, you know, six times a summer at this point.
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  There was a point where Danielle and I had a membership at our local course when we were
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  both working all the time.
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  We spent a ton of time out there, but it was also never you know, like, my wife's not
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  competitive.
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  She's not trying to be good at golf.
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  She doesn't like she won't even hit her driver.
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  Right?
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  She's hitting her hybrid off of the tee box regularly because she just refuses to hit it.
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  So, plenty of Clint beat
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  me today and have putting content.
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  Well, I beat her overall, but she beat me on, we're playing two putts to the hole.
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  Right?
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  So who's closest on the proximity to both putts is overall wins that hole.
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  We're playing on the putting green.
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  And on the first one, she beat me.
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  She canned it.
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  Like, she just did this weird thing.
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  She walked up to the hole.
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  She pointed to it, did the thing with her like, she was chopping at it.
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  She looks right at it, just drills it.
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  And I'm like, the fuck?
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  Like I said, man, I say it a lot.
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  I wish I woulda had a camera rolling on the one Danielle hit on our honeymoon because it was
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  bananas.
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  And she's done that a lot.
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  She's got a dead eye, but we haven't played consistently.
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  We didn't play a lot last year with her going to college and everything.
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  It just wasn't, it wasn't in the cards.
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  But, yeah, man, it's a hard game.
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  Right?
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  It's supposed to be hard, and this US Open at Shinnecock Hills, which we knew was going to be
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  bro,
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  this course has got teeth.
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  Yeah.
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  Big time.
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  Big time.
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  You can't miss.
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  You have to play consistent.
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  You can't miss hit a ball all day.
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  Right?
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  And it takes a lot to do that.
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  And shout out to Wyndham Clark who, you know, even, you know, didn't shoot great today, but
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  still shot under par.
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  And I think that's you know, I don't know.
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  Got a four-stroke lead going into the weekend, and that's huge at this course.
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  Right.
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  And I don't know if that means that he's gonna be able to hang on for the next two days as
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  well.
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  The winds could change.
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  A lot could happen.
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  You know, a windy day out on that course, and nobody's shooting over par or nobody's shooting
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  under par, rather.
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  So, you know, it's gonna be an interesting weekend.
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  What's interesting, though, is the guys who have shot under par and had really good rounds
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  today were two and three over, so they've only made pushes in the second.
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  So even though they shot these incredible minus four, minus fives, it was only good enough to
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  get them into second because of how rough of a first day they had.
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  Right.
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  Well and it seems like that.
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  Guys that shot well yesterday didn't shoot well today.
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  Guys that shot well today didn't shoot good.
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  Right?
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  So it kinda reminds me of
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  You could have two good days in a row now to finish this tournament out.
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  I don't remember the tournament that it was, but me and you were covering it, and it was
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  Sungjae.
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  He shot a 63, but it didn't matter because he was, like, plus four going into that, and it
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  was, like, the third or fourth day.
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  Mhmm.
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  So it's like, okay, Sungjae.
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  Great 63.
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  It was Aramink.
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  It was like, great 63, but you were plus four coming into this.
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  So now you're only minus three, and the lead at Aramink was like Aaron Rai won that one.
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  I wanna say he won it, like, minus 12 or something.
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  So I think at the time, it was like Aaron and I was still at minus eight.
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  And it's like, great.
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  63.
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  You're still down by six shots.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and it's gonna be an interesting weekend.
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  I wish I had time to take it all in.
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  We're so busy this weekend.
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  I was fortunate I got to catch the highlights and come on to join you today, and just wanna
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  shout you out.
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  And thank you for your coverage and being on here doing the show solo last night as my boy
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  had one of his last Little League games of the season.
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  His last one is Tuesday, and then they move into tournament play.
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  I'm actually gonna miss his tournament game because we'll be at the Skunk Classic, but such
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  is the life sometimes, and you just kinda gotta power through.
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  Hope to get that.
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  I wish you were closer and you could cover it for us,
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  and then
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  we'll be able to watch the coverage later.
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  But, yeah, man, this US Open is proving to be a challenge for everyone.
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  Like this, though.
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  I like this because I'm getting to watch guys use way more of their bag.
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  It gets monotonous sometimes watching these guys just hit driver, short iron, wedge,
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  putter.
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  Like, come on.
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  Let's see a four like that playoff between Scheffler and Matt Fitzpatrick at the RBC
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  Heritage where he hits this four iron out of the sand, and it's, like, 12 feet.
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  You're like, that's that right there.
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  I wanna see that.
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  Do you think, and I know you covered it a little bit on the pod yesterday.
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  Do you think the ball changes and possible rule changes coming out, do you think they're going
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  to have a major effect and make things a little more of an even playing field or at least a
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  little more exciting, as, you know, not everyone can bomb the ball 380 yards.
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  See, that is what I was talking about yesterday.
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  So I don't know if you caught, if you caught all of it, is they're actually rolling that
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  back.
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  They're gonna keep the tech the same with the ball, so they're not rolling back distance.
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  What they are suggesting about doing, though, and it's murmurs, is they're gonna start adding
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  more trees, let the rough grow a little longer, and they're gonna start thinning these fairways
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  out, so more areas of rough.
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  And, personally, I like that idea more than doing the rollback on the ball because, cool,
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  bomb at 340, but now you're in the trees in the rough.
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  And it's even harder to
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  scramble there.
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  It's harder to score out of there because now you're incentivized more with the narrowing of
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  the fairway and the addition of more rough/slash hazards is now you maybe take that
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  3-iron off the tee or that 5-wood off the tee versus, well, the rough's not that bad.
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  Let me just bomb it down there and take a wedge out.
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  You know?
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  Like, I wanna see creativity come back to the game, and I wanna see shot selection because I
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  don't feel like there's a whole lot of shot selection, you know, on these other courses.
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  Like, when you see a course like Aramco and you see a course like Shinnecock, it we've had guys
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  win that you're just like, who?
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  Because we had Aaron Rai win.
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  The only person of note who's won this year is Rory at the Masters.
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  You know?
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  I guess you could say Matt Fitzpatrick, but he's no Scottie Scheffler.
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  You know?
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  We've had so much parity at the majors outside of Augusta, but we've had so much parity
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  because, like, these guys who are more known for their ball striking and their accuracy are
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  taking it home versus the guys who are just known for, you know, bomb and pray.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and I agree that it's easier—it's an easier fix to change the course than to change
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  the ball tech because you're talking about, they have a little bit—I don't wanna say
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  control, but they have influence over the courses that are being played, whereas these
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  companies that are creating the balls, they don't have any control over it.
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  And I think it's the—I don't think it
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  kind of—I just don't see it having the benefit that you want it to.
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  No.
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  Because when you're talking about rollback, I mean, I think they were saying that Cameron
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  Young—and I forget which tournament he won, but he won a tournament over Scheffler too.
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  Cameron Young's Pro V1 that he uses right now is not this year's Pro V1.
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  It's, like, two years ago.
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  And, technically, if they were gonna roll it back, right, his would conform.
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  And he still can bomb that thing 305 yards carry.
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  Because when you're talking about technology with the pros, it's a percentage of a
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  percentage of a yard of a yard.
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  Because the guy who's like me or you going to the golf course or even the guy who's like in a
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  local tourney, you're not gonna see the difference in tech unless your swing speed is
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  120 and your ball speed's touching those, you know, 150s to 170s.
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  You're not seeing that fractional difference.
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  You're because you're not hitting the ball
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  You might hit it 270, roll it out 290, but these guys are carrying it, like, 305, 307, and
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  rolling it out to, like, 335, 340, which cuts a par 4 more than in half.
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  Like, when you can bomb it and cover more than 65% of the fairway, it's a wedge or a short
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  iron.
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  That's it.
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  Yeah.
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  It definitely changes the game.
• 21:11
  And that's why we're, you know, seeing the scores shot that we are and a lot of that has
• 21:23
  to do with the tech of the ball.
• 21:25
  Speaking of that, did you see the—have you seen that video?
• 21:30
  I saw it.
• 21:30
  It was probably a reel on Instagram that I saw, but it was of the ball shot at, like, 170 miles
• 21:37
  an hour into, like, a steel plate.
• 21:39
  And the way that it compresses down to nearly flat and then bounces back.
• 21:44
  Pretty cool slow motion.
• 21:46
  I mean, it's shot at, you know, a thousand frames per second or whatever.
• 21:49
  Probably more than that.
• 21:51
  Yeah.
• 21:51
  It's crazy.
• 21:52
  It's pretty awesome watching the tech and what they have, but pretty incredible.
• 21:58
  I wish I could hit the ball that well.
• 22:01
  I wish I could hit the ball straight right now.
• 22:02
  That's all.
• 22:03
  I just And that's
• 22:04
  what I did today, but this is the problem.
• 22:08
  I hit six fairways with my driver today.
• 22:10
  Right?
• 22:11
  And I carried it out today.
• 22:13
  I was averaging 225 today because I had help from the wind.
• 22:17
  So after rollout, about 225, and I was carrying it about 180, 190.
• 22:22
  I'm still having to I'm still having to, you know, take a three wood or take a five wood or
• 22:30
  take a long iron into the greens.
• 22:33
  But, man, do I stink at the second shot.
• 22:37
  That's the part of my game that's actually not bad.
• 22:39
  I bought a new set of irons a couple years ago, and I tend to hit those pretty well.
• 22:44
  So I do okay off the par threes, and I do okay once I get the ball, but I'm so all over the
• 22:50
  place with my driver right now.
• 22:52
  And I just don't have any time.
• 22:53
  We don't have a range, so I'm not able to go out and hit and get a lot of reps.
• 22:57
  I didn't play a lot last year.
• 22:59
  I haven't played a lot this year already.
• 23:01
  Oh, but you know what I mean?
• 23:02
  Dropped a bunch of clips in our folder today.
• 23:06
  So everyone will see them going out on our short clips, coming at you guys.
• 23:10
  Make sure you're subscribing to the channel, new listeners.
• 23:12
  I appreciate you being here for our US Open coverage.
• 23:15
  What you got, pods?
• 23:17
  Hold on.
• 23:18
  Par 4 and second short iron.
• 23:19
  That is a golfer's dream.
• 23:22
  Seriously, it's the every man's dream, but that's not, that's not us.
• 23:27
  You know?
• 23:28
  Like, I sometimes on a par 4, I can get it there in two, but you know what?
• 23:33
  That second shot's either right or left.
• 23:36
  It's never right at the green, or I hit it in this case, I actually hit it man, what was it?
• 23:45
  I hit it long.
• 23:47
  Like, I hit it straight.
• 23:48
  I'm like, oh my god.
• 23:48
  That's right at the pin.
• 23:51
  And then It's
• 23:52
  the other field of
• 23:53
  it's 20 feet over the green, and I'm like, okay.
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  and I'm so, I'm so upset today too.
• 24:03
  Like, not actually upset.
• 24:04
  Satire here.
• 24:06
  I had a 10 on a par 5 today, and it was a great, you know, miss tee shot for me because
• 24:13
  I'm missing like, I went left, and I rolled into the dirt.
• 24:17
  And I'm like, you know what?
• 24:18
  I'm okay with that.
• 24:19
  I missed left.
• 24:20
  I'm gonna hit another one just in case it's gone, though.
• 24:22
  Right?
• 24:23
  At least it wasn't the fescue at Shinnecock.
• 24:25
  Right.
• 24:25
  So I hit the second one.
• 24:27
  I see it underneath this guy's fence who has a pool.
• 24:29
  I'm like, okay.
• 24:30
  That ball's gone.
• 24:31
  I'm not jumping this guy's fence because that's just dumb.
• 24:34
  Alright?
• 24:35
  And I got a million other balls at home in the ottoman, and I can always buy another sleeve.
• 24:39
  So we're cool there.
• 24:41
  I start walking down the line trying to find the other one, and I'm praying.
• 24:45
  I'm like, please be in bounds so I don't have to take a drop.
• 24:48
  Little did I know it would not matter whatsoever.
• 24:51
  But so I find it, and I'm like, okay.
• 24:53
  It's sitting up in the dirt.
• 24:54
  I take a 6-iron out, and it's, like, compact, but enough to where you could still launch the
• 25:00
  thing.
• 25:01
  And I set up over this ball, and I'm thinking, alright.
• 25:05
  Just hit it out.
• 25:06
  Take your medicine.
• 25:07
  Just hit it out.
• 25:08
  Right?
• 25:09
  And, like, I get to the backswing, and I'm swinging through, and I hesitate right before I
• 25:15
  hit the ball.
• 25:16
  And I just top this sucker right into a tree.
• 25:20
  Right into a tree.
• 25:21
  And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, man, I'm like, I'm gonna blow up, and I'm not even
• 25:25
  gonna get it on camera.
• 25:26
  Yeah.
• 25:27
  It's all that helpful for you, isn't it?
• 25:29
  Yeah.
• 25:29
  So third shot.
• 25:30
  I'm underneath the tree that I just hit.
• 25:33
  Took six-iron again.
• 25:34
  This time, it actually goes in the air.
• 25:37
  Now it goes into the bunker.
• 25:39
  Right?
• 25:39
  Greenside bunker.
• 25:40
  And I'm thinking, alright.
• 25:42
  Fourth shot in the bunker.
• 25:44
  Get it up for five.
• 25:45
  Potentially, make a six.
• 25:47
  Get out of here with a bogey.
• 25:49
  Life is good.
• 25:51
  What do I do?
• 25:53
  Take a 60-degree wedge, have the best contact I've ever had with the ball ever, and
• 26:00
  completely sail it over the green by about 30 yards out of bounds.
• 26:08
  So I have to take a drop from my last position, which is the bunker.
• 26:11
  So now instead of shooting for five on the green and potentially making a six, I'm now
• 26:17
  shooting six.
• 26:19
  So I take the same shot again, take a little off of it.
• 26:22
  What do I do?
• 26:24
  Skull it over the bunker again.
• 26:27
  This time, it had the courtesy to hit the cart path and roll out of bounds.
• 26:31
  So now I'm sitting eight.
• 26:33
  Finally, get out of the bunker, sitting nine, and I hit it, miss it, pick it up for max at
• 26:41
  ten.
• 26:42
  Because we're being realistic with how that hole was going.
• 26:44
  If I had kept playing, I probably would've shot, like, a 24.
• 26:49
  And I get off the green.
• 26:52
  Scotland's looking at me.
• 26:53
  She's like, what's wrong, babe?
• 26:55
  And I just take the wedge that's in my hand, and I just slightly throw it because in the
• 27:01
  soft grass.
• 27:02
  Like, I didn't, like, slam it.
• 27:03
  I'm just, like, disgusted.
• 27:05
  I'm like, I don't deserve to touch this right now.
• 27:09
  So funny.
• 27:10
  I was so, Bubba, I was so disgusted after that.
• 27:14
  Like
• 27:16
  Here's maybe my best shot of the day.
• 27:19
  It plays that way.
• 27:21
  It came down.
• 27:22
  This one Well,
• 27:23
  Well, I could see it.
• 27:23
  It, it, you fit, you faded it back in.
• 27:26
  So
• 27:27
  It was so windy out there.
• 27:29
  You can hear it howling on the camera.
• 27:31
  Apologize for the noise there, guys.
• 27:33
  But no.
• 27:34
  No.
• 27:34
  It's, it was, was an impressive shot, though.
• 27:40
  That's such a fun hole.
• 27:41
  That's kind of our signature hole.
• 27:43
  Looks back over.
• 27:44
  I've shanked a bunch of those into the highway.
• 27:46
  You can't really, you couldn't see any cars going by this time, but then there's a creek
• 27:49
  down there too.
• 27:51
  Danielle's got a couple of good ones.
• 27:52
  I can't wait till people see those shorts.
• 27:54
  She's
• 27:55
  gonna, I had a friend I was playing with at Apple, and he shanked one into a car off the
• 28:00
  hood.
• 28:01
  And we watched it bounce, like, 40 feet in the air, and we're like, are they gonna stop?
• 28:07
  They just kept going.
• 28:09
  And Hector's like
• 28:10
  even what do you even think that is, when you're, when you're driving and that it's like,
• 28:17
  oh, that's, man.
• 28:19
  I guess, like, my mind would be, like, as long as it's not my windshield and it's just a dent
• 28:24
  that I can buff out, I'm okay.
• 28:27
  But there is one thing I wanted to talk to you about, though, because I wanted to get your
• 28:31
  opinion on this because Rory was really outspoken.
• 28:35
  I spoke on this yesterday, but I was wanting to get your opinion.
• 28:40
  The track one and track two events, what do you think about that?
• 28:45
  I haven't followed up.
• 28:48
  Explain it to me.
• 28:49
  So, basically, they're going to do track one events being, like, the majors and some for,
• 28:57
  like, higher-tier players, I'm assuming.
• 29:00
  And then the track two events is supposed to be, like, another way for lesser-known players
• 29:04
  to get more events in and stuff.
• 29:08
  So it's almost like you know how in soccer, you've got the Premier League, then you got the
• 29:12
  Champions League?
• 29:13
  Well, it's like that, but now it's, like, I guess, lesser events going to track two.
• 29:18
  Pretty much putting something, like, in between the Korn Ferry Tour and the PGA and having a JV
• 29:25
  tour.
• 29:26
  Yeah.
• 29:27
  But then that just seems kinda weird to me, though, because you already have Korn Ferry,
• 29:31
  and then you also have Q School.
• 29:34
  Right.
• 29:35
  So why, like, what why PGA one, PGA two?
• 29:39
  Like, why PGA track one and PGA track two events?
• 29:42
  Who qualifies for track one and track two?
• 29:45
  Like, what are the track two guys playing for then?
• 29:48
  Because, obviously, the track one guys are playing for the FedEx Cup points and the
• 29:53
  majors.
• 29:54
  So how do track two players what it's what's their end goal for the season to get a track
• 29:59
  one card or what?
• 30:01
  Right.
• 30:02
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  That's interesting.
• 30:04
  And I think this kinda speaks back to you know?
• 30:08
  I mean, this is the reason that you had a LIV Golf in the first place because the game has
• 30:14
  the game has grown so much, and you can't just let 300 players onto every tournament.
• 30:19
  Right?
• 30:19
  Like, it's just infeasible.
• 30:21
  So it feels like with LIV dissolving that the PGA is trying to find something.
• 30:28
  Feels like this isn't the last of these kind of wild ideas that they're gonna leak out just to
• 30:33
  get a feel on the public opinion and the players.
• 30:36
  Right?
• 30:37
  Well, this is supposedly not a leak out.
• 30:39
  This is supposedly a done thing.
• 30:41
  Like, it's done.
• 30:43
  Like, this is supposed to be implemented by '28.
• 30:47
  Interesting.
• 30:48
  I don't think they have a big problem with it.
• 30:53
  I don't have an issue with it, but how would you implement it when you've already got
• 30:56
  Q-School and the Korn Ferry?
• 30:58
  Yeah.
• 30:59
  Those are just different things, though.
• 31:00
  I mean, you're trying to take amateurs to pro status.
• 31:03
  This is a secondary pro league, a relegated league, essentially, for guys that wanna keep
• 31:10
  playing.
• 31:10
  It would be interesting to see where the money lands.
• 31:12
  I think that's kind of the biggest thing in there, but they've already I mean, it's already
• 31:16
  like this for a lot of guys.
• 31:17
  A lot of guys aren't playing all of the tours and showing up for all of the things just
• 31:22
  because simply they don't have to.
• 31:24
  Why kind of, you know, put yourself through this brutal schedule?
• 31:27
  And you kinda talked about this a little bit with the Canadian Open last week where it's
• 31:33
  just like it was pretty dry as far as the top name goes.
• 31:36
  So these top guys who can afford to miss some tournaments and that wanna take the big swings
• 31:41
  at the other ones, maybe they're getting some extra practice time out at these other courses,
• 31:46
  and really just playing for those.
• 31:49
  And I think you had a little bit of pushback on this because of the FedEx points.
• 31:53
  Right?
• 31:53
  You kinda implement that to get guys to show up more, but you can also get enough points
• 31:58
  winning one tournament, placing at a couple of others and, the money in there that I don't see
• 32:04
  a problem with a, a, a relegated secondary, you know, part of that.
• 32:09
  The, the, the thing is the thing to me I would be interested, and I'll have to dive into this
• 32:13
  more, is the what is the what's the benefit for the track two guys?
• 32:19
  Are they trying to
• 32:20
  What's the benefit over the Korn Ferry Tour?
• 32:23
  Right.
• 32:24
  It's similar to that.
• 32:25
  Right?
• 32:25
  Do you have to pass through track two?
• 32:27
  Like, you have your card now.
• 32:28
  Reason the guys are playing Korn Ferry is because they don't have their PGA card yet.
• 32:32
  Correct?
• 32:32
  Right.
• 32:33
  Like, so, so you're past that, but then you're in this track.
• 32:36
  Like, do you have to play up out of that two to get to the one event, or is the two, you know,
• 32:43
  just a way for people to keep things going?
• 32:46
  Do you get another cup?
• 32:48
  Right?
• 32:48
  Do you get a track two cup, in addition to the track one being the FedEx?
• 32:52
  It'd be interesting to see where they are.
• 32:54
  I'm gonna have to do my on this.
• 32:55
  And that's another thing that's interesting, though, too, and I thought you would appreciate
• 32:59
  this simply because take the golf out of it.
• 33:03
  Right?
• 33:03
  How does this work logistically business-wise?
• 33:07
  Like, if you got track two guys, how, like, are you gonna have the FedEx Cup track two, or do
• 33:14
  you get another sponsor for that?
• 33:16
  It would be a whole other cup.
• 33:17
  It would be another sponsor.
• 33:19
  It would be, you know, a whole different thing.
• 33:21
  Are they gonna run the same number of tournaments?
• 33:23
  Are there gonna be two divisions?
• 33:24
  Are there going to be like there was when the Myrtle Beach Classic was going, right, that you
• 33:28
  have a whole other tournament that's out there as well?
• 33:32
  Do you have these two tournaments running every week?
• 33:35
  Can the PGA, as you know, as the entity that it is, can they divide their, you know, their
• 33:44
  workforce essentially into that?
• 33:47
  With the way things are aired now and because it's so different and a lot of these, you know,
• 33:52
  tournaments are kinda doing their own coverage.
• 33:54
  Right?
• 33:54
  The Masters has its own team of camera people and everything that are running their own
• 33:59
  coverage in addition to the national broadcast and that landscape changing.
• 34:04
  It puts a lot more money on the table.
• 34:06
  If people are gonna watch it, right, and maybe it's not the same numbers, obviously, nothing's
• 34:10
  really bigger than the majors as far as, you know, watch time on these things.
• 34:14
  But most of the tournaments aren't being aired on the, like, over-the-air broadcast anyway.
• 34:19
  Right?
• 34:19
  You might get something on Sunday at this point.
• 34:22
  You know what I think would be a great opportunity for this?
• 34:26
  What if you were talking about how they would need a track two sponsor for the cup, right?
• 34:31
  Well, what if they partner with a streaming partner, like an NBC, like a Peacock, or an
• 34:37
  Amazon like that, and they have the whole series streamed and that'd be the cup sponsor,
• 34:44
  like the Amazon Track, like the PGA Track Two presented by Amazon.
• 34:48
  Netflix might get into golf.
• 34:49
  Right?
• 34:51
  There's definitely some talks going on behind the scenes.
• 34:56
  I'll tell you what, if there's a track two, that leaves a door open for a team like us to
• 35:01
  come in because not everyone is gonna wanna cover those lesser tournaments, and that's kind
• 35:07
  of why we can get in on the PGA Tour of Champions stuff is that there's not a lot of
• 35:11
  coverage to those anyway, and they're always looking.
• 35:14
  I'm all about it.
• 35:15
  The more golf we get, the better.
• 35:16
  With LIV dissolving, you have more golfers that are gonna be coming back, you know, that are
• 35:22
  coming back in and need somewhere to play.
• 35:25
  But like I said, you can't have, you know, you can't invite 300 people out, and you might as
• 35:30
  well have them playing.
• 35:31
  If there's gonna be someone that's willing to pay for the streaming rights and to put it out
• 35:34
  there and there's gonna be sponsors that wanna be affiliated with that, there's money on the
• 35:39
  table.
• 35:39
  I don't know why the PGA wouldn't be interested in kinda doing the legwork to put the
• 35:44
  tournaments together and to get them out there.
• 35:46
  Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out and what it looks like in 2028.
• 35:50
  Yeah.
• 35:51
  And I think the other interesting thing too, like, we've talked the golf portion.
• 35:56
  We've talked the logistics.
• 35:58
  We've talked the, well, not logistics yet, but we've talked the business side.
• 36:03
  Now logistically, right, you're acknowledging that this is PGA Track Two.
• 36:08
  So these guys have their card technically.
• 36:12
  Does that make them more or equal to the DP World Tour then?
• 36:17
  Because they also have affiliations with the PGA.
• 36:20
  And I guess another thing that kind of makes me question some things is if you're gonna divide
• 36:28
  the tour into two tracks, what event in Track Two would equal, okay.
• 36:36
  You qualified for a major.
• 36:38
  Like, can you qualify for majors in Track Two since you technically still have your PGA card,
• 36:44
  or can you only qualify for majors in Track One?
• 36:49
  That's another thing too.
• 36:50
  It's like, okay.
• 36:51
  So if you win a, as it stands right now, I think, is if you win a PGA event, you
• 36:57
  automatically get an invitation to the U.S.
• 36:59
  Open and the Open Championship.
• 37:02
  And I'm pretty sure the PGA Championship too.
• 37:06
  The Masters, I think you have to, you have to win a signature event or something like that or
• 37:14
  be a certain point in the world rankings to qualify to get to the Masters.
• 37:19
  And then there's obviously the amateurs that get in on their thing and whatnot.
• 37:23
  But, like, how do you divvy that up, like, logistically as the PGA, as the entity that is
• 37:28
  the PGA, who's gonna govern this?
• 37:31
  And you're gonna have to work with the World Golf Ranking Association too.
• 37:36
  How do you decide who you know, what victories are worth more points or are worth an
• 37:42
  invitation to a major championship?
• 37:44
  Yeah.
• 37:45
  I don't know.
• 37:45
  Would be a great angle, and we have obviously some PGA, you know, contacts that are on, you
• 37:54
  know, on our connections, right, on our LinkedIn and around there.
• 37:59
  Interesting conversation.
• 38:01
  I wonder how much we could find out.
• 38:03
  Keep digging around, see what's public knowledge, but also maybe try to get some
• 38:06
  interviews on the channel with people who maybe have some insider information that they can
• 38:11
  share that's maybe not that the public's not completely, you know, aware of or well-versed
• 38:16
  in.
• 38:16
  Right?
• 38:17
  Because there's a lot of this stuff as it gets leaked out that not everyone is doing all their
• 38:20
  homework, case in point, myself, but something to definitely look into.
• 38:25
  And you
• 38:25
  know what Rory said, though, is he said he's like, well, track two is just basically gonna
• 38:30
  be a glorified Korn Ferry event.
• 38:33
  That is where the words verbatim that left his mouth too.
• 38:36
  But but it's not because you're talking about guys that already have their PGA card.
• 38:42
  So it's not.
• 38:43
  But what are they playing for?
• 38:44
  Right?
• 38:44
  I mean, you're playing for money.
• 38:46
  Obviously, you're playing to make a living, which I think is something there's something to
• 38:50
  that.
• 38:50
  Right?
• 38:51
  That these guys, this is what they do.
• 38:52
  This is what they've always done.
• 38:54
  This is how they make a living.
• 38:55
  So that's why, I guess, like, from the player's perspective, I don't mind that.
• 38:59
  Obviously, the purses are going to be less money than your major events.
• 39:03
  But if there's people that are willing to put into these things, I don't see any problem with
• 39:07
  having more people.
• 39:08
  There's probably gonna be more events in Track Two than there is in Track One.
• 39:13
  And I think what that will ultimately do is even though the purses will be lesser, there's
• 39:20
  more opportunities to earn money with more events.
• 39:23
  Big question would be, are they gonna play the same courses?
• 39:27
  Right?
• 39:27
  Are they going to play a completely different tour and completely different courses?
• 39:32
  Think it's PGA season?
• 39:34
  I wanna say the PGA season is from April till September.
• 39:41
  So you got maybe 24 weeks, 26 weeks maybe, less than half the year or ish or half the year at
• 39:51
  26.
• 39:52
  Yeah.
• 39:53
  There's 52 courses that could get played.
• 39:56
  Right?
• 39:56
  And and the ones that are played in the PGA are pretty well set.
• 40:00
  There's other championship courses that are out there.
• 40:02
  I think you got plenty of courses.
• 40:03
  You have plenty of players.
• 40:05
  And and I think that the LIV experiment kinda proved that, to some degree, that you were able
• 40:11
  to break off all of these guys and big names, and they went and played in a totally different
• 40:17
  league.
• 40:17
  And you have these other ones that are playing around, and you were still able to put a really
• 40:21
  good product out on the course.
• 40:24
  So them reevaluating them, and I think they owe a debt of gratitude to LIV Golf for kinda
• 40:29
  proving that without them having to take
• 40:31
  the split.
• 40:32
  Would also bring into, if when they do this track two, why I think it's another net
• 40:37
  positive is more courses around the world and around the United States will get PGA
• 40:45
  certification because then they need more courses to play on.
• 40:49
  Because I think as a track two, I think outside of the majors and maybe signature events that
• 40:56
  you get invited to, I think these players should never ever be on the same course at the
• 41:00
  same time outside of the exception of a signature, like the Zurich Classic where they
• 41:06
  scramble or a major, like Masters, Open, you name it.
• 41:12
  Think having those two be separate would be beneficial.
• 41:16
  Except when you invite the top and maybe it's like a top 10.
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  Right?
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  The top 10 in tier in track two get invited to the majors, so there's a constant battle
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  throughout the season to be in that top 10 of points in that track two.
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  I would find that interesting because then you could have a kind of recurring or a different
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  batch of people that, like, say you shot well early in the season, you
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  get a lot finish in the top 10, you get your card.
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  Well, or you get moved up in the bottom 10 of the PGA, you know, get relegated down to track
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  two.
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  I am very interested in this now.
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  So I'm gonna do my homework before we talk next week, because I won't have time to do it this
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  weekend, obviously, and you may be on your own for the rest of the weekend's coverage.
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  I'll see about Sunday.
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  Hope to be able to jump back in with you.
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  Brother, you're not gonna be here Sunday.
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  We'll see.
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  It's Father's Day.
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  It's okay.
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  My kids are probably gonna be with their grandparents by that point in the evening
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  anyway, so it is what it is.
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  And I'm gonna be, you know, probably be tired because we got eight and a half hours of
• 42:17
  driving that day.
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  I will have seen enough of my kids.
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  Don't worry.
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  Okay.
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  We're good.
• 42:21
  Well, eight and a half hours of driving.
• 42:23
  Bubba, is there anything this week in terms of the U.S.
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  Open that you've seen so far or just something cool golf-related that
• 42:32
  I've literally seen 12 shots of the U.S.
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  Open, and that was in the highlights I watched five minutes before we went live tonight.
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  No, man.
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  It looks difficult.
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  It's easy to look at the score, the leaderboard right now and be like, it's playing tough.
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  And the fact that you have so many big names that are not gonna make it, Koepka, Rahm,
• 42:53
  DeChambeau, and many, many others.
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  Cam or not Cam Young, but, you know, the other Cameron, not making it.
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  Right?
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  Like, you have a bunch of big names that aren't gonna make the cut this weekend because And
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  then you got an old dog.
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  You got an old veteran, a hungry vet like Wyndham who's
• 43:13
  I love it.
• 43:13
  If it holds, he's I'll do him.
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  Like this second.
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  Woodland out there holding his own.
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  It looks like Gary made the cut, you know, and two more days, man.
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  Two more days.
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  And, can you avoid that disaster hole?
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  And can
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  you That's gonna be the big that's gonna be the big thing.
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  Yeah.
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  It's gonna be awesome.
• 43:31
  Alright.
• 43:32
  Well, guys, this is the Scene Projects
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  I am Pods Plays Golf.
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  This was my friend Bubba Startz.
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  We will catch you tomorrow.
• 43:42
  I might just be here.
• 43:43
  Bubba might be here.
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  Who knows?
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  But before we get out of here, this project and this show wouldn't be possible without our
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  friends at Skunk Golf Company.
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  And I think it's only fair that before we get out of here, we show you some of their great
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  gear.
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  Skunk Golf.
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  Look good even if your game stinks.
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  Skunk Golf.
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  Look good even if your game stinks.