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Are we back to all-out war? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: but to talk about that and everything else, I'm joined
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Speaker 1: by Michael Wattley, former chairman of the Republican National Committee
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Speaker 1: and the next Senator from the great state of North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: Chairman Wattley, have you back. How goes it, sir?
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Speaker 2: It goes very well? Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with your website so that people get excited
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Speaker 1: about your campaign, they can know where to go. How
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Speaker 1: do they find your website?
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Speaker 2: Michael Widley dot com.
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Speaker 3: Nice and simple, Michael Widley dot com and they can
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Speaker 3: follow us on social media. We're on Instagram, We're on
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Speaker 3: x We're on Facebook pretty much pushing our messages out
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Speaker 3: as best as we can.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get right to the campaign. How does it
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Speaker 1: stand right now? How do you feel against former Governor
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Speaker 1: Roy Cooper? I got a couple of levels of question here,
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Speaker 1: but jest, your big overarching take on the.
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Speaker 2: Race, Well, I feel really good.
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Speaker 3: You know, we have spent every day traveling around this state.
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Speaker 3: We're working to get to all one hundred counties. I've
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Speaker 3: been to ninety seven of them so far, and we're
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Speaker 3: having conversations with folks about the economy. We're talking to
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Speaker 3: folks about farm issues. We're talking about folks about crime issues.
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Speaker 3: You know, all of the issues that people want to
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Speaker 3: talk about are what we want to hear about. We
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Speaker 3: want to know what matters to them, and we want
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Speaker 3: to know what solutions we're going to be putting on
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Speaker 3: the table. And everywhere we go, what we hear is
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Speaker 3: people want a strong economy and we're going to fight
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Speaker 3: for it. People want safe communities, that's what we're fighting for.
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Speaker 3: And people support our military. Ten percent of the Armed
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Speaker 3: Services Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard that
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Speaker 3: we have in the United States are based here in
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Speaker 3: North Carolina, So we want to make sure that they
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Speaker 3: have the resources materials that they need to protect our
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Speaker 3: interests and allies around the world. And no matter what
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Speaker 3: part of the state we're in, and we're going to
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Speaker 3: all of it. We continue to hear people love this country,
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Speaker 3: people love North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: People want to do better.
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Speaker 1: So against the former governor, you're running against someone who's
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Speaker 1: been able to hand out a lot of pork over
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Speaker 1: the course of how many years he was governor, who's
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Speaker 1: well known he's run statewide. Is he understood to be
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Speaker 1: the liberal that he is? Because if he joins up
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Speaker 1: with Chuck Schumer, he's joining up with Graham Platner LSI
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Speaker 1: ed from Michigan, Peggy Flanagan from Minnesota. There are no
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Speaker 1: right reasionable Democrats left. He would be a hard left Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Do people get that?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Roy Cooper is a card carrying member of the woke mob,
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Speaker 3: and he's made it very clear over his tenure as
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Speaker 3: governor that he's going to fight for criminals. He's going
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Speaker 3: to fight for illegal aliens, He's going to fight for
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Speaker 3: men who want to play in girls sports and go
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Speaker 3: in women's locker rooms more than he is the families
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Speaker 3: and communities across North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: And is there a debate ahead? Do you get a
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Speaker 1: chance to sit down with him and call him an
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Speaker 1: account on this because the national image is, oh, Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Carter two point zero, and I know he's not, but
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Speaker 1: that's the national image.
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Speaker 3: Well, we certainly hope that we're going to have a debate.
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Speaker 3: I think that that's a conversation we would welcome anywhere, anytime.
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Speaker 3: But I don't necessarily know that he's going to want
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Speaker 3: to have that conversation with us. Look, I think it's
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Speaker 3: going to be absolutely coming in on us as a
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Speaker 3: campaign to go out there and have a conversation. Because
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Speaker 3: the issues that North Carolina really truly cares about, issues
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Speaker 3: like the economy, issues like community safety, issues like our
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Speaker 3: national security. Roy Cooper is wrong on every single one
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Speaker 3: of those issues. There's only one candidate in this race
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Speaker 3: who is going to be an ally for President Trump
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Speaker 3: who's going to fight for North Carolina. Roy Cooper's going
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Speaker 3: to fight for California, Illinois. He's going to fight for
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Speaker 3: California in New York. He's not going to fight for
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Speaker 3: the people of North Carolina. He's going to be a
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Speaker 3: card carrying member of the woke mob.
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Speaker 1: Now, Michael Wily. Sometimes a natural event occurs, as did
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Speaker 1: Katrina in Louisiana, that changes the state's political makeup completely
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Speaker 1: because of the incredible ineffectiveness of their Democrat governor and
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Speaker 1: their Democrat mayor. Back when Katrina, they tried to buying
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Speaker 1: George W. Bush. It wasn't his fault. People finally figured
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Speaker 1: that out and the state is now a deep red state.
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Speaker 1: Is there something along that line happening in western North
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Speaker 1: Carolina where Biden fumbled the ball so badly in the hurricane.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: You think about Hurricane Helene, and you think about the
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Speaker 3: devastation that that storm brought to our state. Roy Cooper
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Speaker 3: was not even in North Carolina when the storm hit.
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Speaker 3: He was at a climate change gala up in New York.
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Speaker 3: It took him several days after the storm landed to
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Speaker 3: even make an appearance up in western North Carolina. And
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Speaker 3: what we saw when President Trump was sworn in in
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Speaker 3: janu is that all of September and October, November and
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Speaker 3: December was that Roy Cooper and Joe Biden were failures
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Speaker 3: in terms of responding to that storm. Since President Trump
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Speaker 3: got this morning and he asked me to help, we've
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Speaker 3: brought over nine billion dollars worth of relief to western
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Speaker 3: North Carolina. Roades have been rebuilt, Bridges have been rebuilt,
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Speaker 3: wastewater systems, drinking water systems have been rebuilt. The Blue
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Speaker 3: Rids Parkway has been reopened, Chimney Rock and Lake Lure
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Speaker 3: have been reopened. You know, we're not ready to hang
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Speaker 3: out a mission accomplished sign yet, but it's very important
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Speaker 3: to note that the state is definitely moving forward. These
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Speaker 3: are resilient, strong communities, resilient strong families. But Roy Cooper
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Speaker 3: and Joe Biden were abject failures in terms of responding
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Speaker 3: to that storm.
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Speaker 1: Now, going back to another thing, Roy Cooper was against,
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Speaker 1: as is Governor Stein who replaced him. David want school choice.
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Speaker 1: The Republicans and the legislature jammed it down. Is school
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Speaker 1: choice a winner for you, Michael Wattley.
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Speaker 3: It is absolutely You know, what every family wants is
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Speaker 3: for their kids to get an education. It's part of
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Speaker 3: the American dream, and we need to make sure that
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Speaker 3: the families of North Carolina have the opportunity to put
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Speaker 3: their kids in school. You know, I went to public
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Speaker 3: schools here in North Carolina. My kids went to public
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Speaker 3: schools here in North Carolina. But I support the right
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Speaker 3: for every child to go forward and get the education
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Speaker 3: that they need. You know, Roy Cooper, you know he
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Speaker 3: had his kids in private schools, but he doesn't want
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Speaker 3: every other kid to have that opportunity. The fact that
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Speaker 3: he vetoed every single opportunity, scholarship, conversation and bill that
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Speaker 3: came to him, as did Josh Stein. Thankfully, the legislature
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Speaker 3: in North Carolina has overridden that veto and we'll be
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Speaker 3: able to move forward.
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Speaker 1: All right. Now, I would like to talk to you
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Speaker 1: about crime in Charlotte, because whenever I see Charlotte in
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Speaker 1: the headlines, it either because of the Bobcats, the Panthers,
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Speaker 1: or someone's been murdered on the Charlotte transit system. Has
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Speaker 1: it gotten better or worse in the last two years.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think the fact is that Roy Cooper
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Speaker 3: letting over four thousand hardened criminals out of North Carolina
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Speaker 3: prisons because he didn't want them to get COVID has
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Speaker 3: definitely put the state backwards when it comes to safety.
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Speaker 3: Over twenty two hundred of those criminals have gone on
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Speaker 3: to commit crimes after they were released by Roy Cooper,
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Speaker 3: hundreds of them committing assault, assault with a deadly weapon,
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Speaker 3: aggravated assault, sexual assaults, even rapes. You know, we've seen
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Speaker 3: an analysis recently that said, in addition to de Carlos
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Speaker 3: Brown Junior, who went on to murder Arena Zorotzka in
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Speaker 3: cold blood on the Charlotte light railcar, there are twenty
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Speaker 3: five others who have gone on to commit murder since
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Speaker 3: Roy Cooper led him out of prisons. This is completely unacceptable.
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Speaker 3: We need to make sure that criminals are behind bars
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Speaker 3: where they belong.
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Speaker 2: That we back the Blue and we're going to fight
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Speaker 2: every day.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to fight every day to keep our kids
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Speaker 3: in communities safe and.
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Speaker 1: Nuts and bolts. Michael Whattley. North Carolina closes its polls
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Speaker 1: pretty early November. If you've won, the Republicans will have
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Speaker 1: held the Senate and we're going to know about your
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Speaker 1: race before we know about any other race because you
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Speaker 1: closed the earliest. So people, if you want to invest
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Speaker 1: in a race that can decide the entire night, that's
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Speaker 1: Michael Wattley's campaign. How much do you have to raise?
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Speaker 1: How's the fundraising going.
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Speaker 3: The fundraising is going extremely well. We know we've got
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Speaker 3: to raise a lot of money to be able to
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Speaker 3: get our message out there. You know, we're hearing reports
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Speaker 3: that there's going to be upwards of six hundred million
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Speaker 3: dollars that will be spent on this race in North Carolina.
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Speaker 3: We know that Chuck Schumer and the national Democrats are
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Speaker 3: going to put hundreds of millions of dollars onto the
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Speaker 3: ground here in North Carolina, and we're going to obviously
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Speaker 3: have to go out and raise the money to be
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Speaker 3: able to respond. But we're also visiting every single community.
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Speaker 3: We're visiting every single town, every single county to go
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Speaker 3: out there and have conversations with the voters. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I firmly believe Republicans win in North Carolina when they
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Speaker 3: listen to the voters, they understand the issues the voters
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Speaker 3: care about and put solutions on the table.
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Speaker 2: That's what we're doing every single day.
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Speaker 1: So small donors matter to you. I assume a twenty
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Speaker 1: five to fifty dollars donation matters to you. At Michael
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Speaker 1: Watley dot com.
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Speaker 2: Could not agree more.
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Speaker 3: You know, that really is going to be the backbone
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Speaker 3: of what we're trying to accomplish with the support that
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Speaker 3: we're getting in. We're happy because we've got, you know,
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Speaker 3: donations that have come in from all one hundred North
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Speaker 3: Carolina counties. We've got donations are coming in across the country,
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Speaker 3: frankly because people understand how important this race is. You know,
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Speaker 3: we've got fifty three Republican Senators today. We need to
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Speaker 3: make sure that we're going to have a majority in
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Speaker 3: the Senate coming out of this election cycle. There's only
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Speaker 3: one candidate in this race who is going to be
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Speaker 3: a conservative champion for North Carolina, who's going to fight
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Speaker 3: for the America First agenda, who's going to fight for
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Speaker 3: common sense. Roy Cooper is a card carring member of
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Speaker 3: the woke Mob, and he's going to vote with Roy,
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Speaker 3: shoot with Roy. You know, he's going to vote with
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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. He's going to vote with Bernie Sanders. He's
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Speaker 3: going to vote with the woke Mob every single time.
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Speaker 3: That's what not what North Carolina needs.
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Speaker 1: Always good to talk to, Chairman wat Lee. Keep coming back.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep spreading the message, and we love having you
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Speaker 1: on early in the program so we can put it
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Speaker 1: up there on YouTube as well. Have a great afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Get to those last three counties. I don't know where
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Speaker 1: they are. Who knows north? They're only got one hundred
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Speaker 1: county who knew? But thank you for joining me, mister chairman.
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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. America coming up, I've got Jonathan Williams,
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Speaker 1: President of ALEC, and there's Chief Economists coming up next
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Speaker 1: as we look at the state of the state's Stay
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Speaker 1: tuned a lot ahead, including updates from Iran on the
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Speaker 1: US show. Welcome back to America. I'm hewittt on this Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Please to have Jonathan Williams. He is president Chief Economists
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Speaker 1: to the American Legislative Exchange Council. And Jonathan, I want
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Speaker 1: to start with the job numbers because you're an economist
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Speaker 1: and the number came down one hundred and seventy two
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Speaker 1: thousand in May. I think that was higher than I expected.
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Speaker 1: Was it higher than you expected?
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Speaker 4: I think it's great news.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 6: This is something clearly that surprised many of the prognosticators
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Speaker 6: out there, those of us that follow it closely. It's
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Speaker 6: a very robust number. It's due to it, you know
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Speaker 6: several things. But I mean, you look at corporate profits
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Speaker 6: right now, they're investing back in those businesses by hiring
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Speaker 6: more individuals.
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Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's some great signs.
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Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of people want to take doom
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Speaker 6: and gloom away from different numbers if they want to,
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Speaker 6: you know, throw shade at the president or whatever else.
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Speaker 6: But these are really healthy numbers from a job creation perspective.
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Speaker 6: You and we know it's not being driven by government
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Speaker 6: created jobs like we saw so much during the Biden
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Speaker 6: years as well. That's an important point to remember.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask that specific question of one hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy two thousand jobs, do we know how many
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Speaker 1: are on the government dole, which really isn't a job. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you get a paycheck, but it's a net negative on
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Speaker 1: the economy. A private sector job, you're putting money into
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Speaker 1: the economy. So of that one hundred and seventy two thousand,
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Speaker 1: how many are we talking about in the private versus
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Speaker 1: the public sector.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's overwhelmingly private sector. And if you look
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Speaker 6: at the trajectory since the Trump administration took office Trump
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Speaker 6: two point zero here, you've seen a reduction in overall
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Speaker 6: federal government workforce, as you've seen massive improvements when it
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Speaker 6: comes to private sector. So once again the numbers are
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Speaker 6: not going to be skewed like we saw during the
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Speaker 6: Biden years when both the GDP numbers that are a
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Speaker 6: lot of that is driven by government spending as well
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Speaker 6: as the jobs numbers were driven by some of that
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Speaker 6: public sector growth. You're seeing exactly the right kind of
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Speaker 6: job growth right now, and you know that is course
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Speaker 6: driven by that evil P word, right that the liberal
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Speaker 6: left loves to hate, the profit word, right, They think
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Speaker 6: that is an evil word. You know what is it
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Speaker 6: that drives job creation. It's profitability. And we see strong
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Speaker 6: business profits still coming out right now. And of course
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Speaker 6: then you have to ask yourself the question of why
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Speaker 6: is that the case.
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Speaker 4: I think there's a great case.
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Speaker 6: To be made because of the certainty and the tax
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Speaker 6: code and the reduction in business tax rates. Because of
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Speaker 6: the one big beautiful bill, you see businesses being able
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Speaker 6: to immediately expense many of those research and developed mint
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Speaker 6: to pieces and other things that are key. In addition
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Speaker 6: than Hugh, especially for small businesses, we have seen now
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Speaker 6: the first permanent tax code in more than two decades,
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Speaker 6: instead of relying on these very strange phase out rules.
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Speaker 6: That one big Beautiful Bill is so key and doesn't
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Speaker 6: get nearly enough attention, but adding certainty, which of course
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Speaker 6: businesses need to make those very job hires that we've
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Speaker 6: been talking about.
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Speaker 1: Now, what does get attention is the size of people's
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Speaker 1: tax returns. The average tax return went up to three
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Speaker 1: and four dollars per taxpayer this year. That's up ten percent.
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Speaker 1: Now at that stays that way for ten years, John,
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Speaker 1: I expect a booming economy, do you.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 6: I mean, we've got a great permanent tax code with
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Speaker 6: lower rates. There's obviously more that we can do to
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Speaker 6: reduce spending and continue to reduce rates, but I think
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Speaker 6: we've got a really pro growth tax code. We've got
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Speaker 6: the business taxes back to where people are not leaving
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Speaker 6: the United States strictly for tax reasons, and they're bringing
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Speaker 6: jobs and.
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Speaker 4: More capital back.
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Speaker 6: We saw that with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act,
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Speaker 6: We've seen it with the Trump tax cuts two point zero,
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Speaker 6: and so many of the fundamentals are great. Another thing
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Speaker 6: that doesn't get nearly enough attention is the deregulatory agenda
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Speaker 6: that you know Trump won. It was ten to one
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Speaker 6: every ten new regulations repealed for every new regulation. The
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Speaker 6: latest time hearing from the White House and from omb
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Speaker 6: they're at something like one hundred and twenty rules and
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Speaker 6: regulations repealed for every new rule that they put.
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Speaker 4: Into effect that has.
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Speaker 6: A massive improvement effect on the economy and of course
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Speaker 6: certainty for job creation and business competitiveness.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've administrator at Leads Eldon on tomorrow
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Speaker 1: from the EPA. I'll talk to him about that. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about one of the components of rich States
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Speaker 1: to light. Visitors go to rich States Poor states, that
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Speaker 1: go to their state and they look it up. We
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Speaker 1: were talking about job. Turns out not all states are
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Speaker 1: created equal when it comes to attracting new jobs. I
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Speaker 1: note Exxon has moved from New Jersey to Texas. SpaceX
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Speaker 1: has moved to Texas. Others like Tesla have moved to Texas.
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Speaker 1: Hear what Packard moved to Texas? Chevron moved to Texas.
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Speaker 1: Why are they all going to Texas? John?
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Speaker 4: Well, guess what he freedom works.
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Speaker 6: In states like Texas value freedom when they value lower taxes,
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Speaker 6: limited government, better regulatory policies, and they roll up to
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Speaker 6: welcome that for businesses. They actually want profitability and businesses
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Speaker 6: to come and invest in their state. You can trast
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Speaker 6: that with New Jersey, California, some of the states where
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Speaker 6: that you mentioned the businesses they're leaving. You see a
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Speaker 6: radically different philosophy from those states that are tax regulation
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Speaker 6: and it seems like they just don't want job creators
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Speaker 6: anymore in places like New Jersey, and that's really a
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Speaker 6: sad state of affairs. But that exon mobile move and
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Speaker 6: that was a move by the shareholders themselves to change
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Speaker 6: in corporation states from New Jersey to Texas. And that
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Speaker 6: was even after some of these shareholder proxy advisory services
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Speaker 6: recommended the other decision on that they could see through
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Speaker 6: that and say Texas offers so much of a better
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Speaker 6: return on of investment for our shareholder value, and they made.
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Speaker 4: The wise decision.
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Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, here they're voting
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Speaker 6: for freedom and opportunity and business policies.
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Speaker 1: At work yesterday, I had Christian bros on the program,
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Speaker 1: Jonathan and he is the president and chief strategy officer
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Speaker 1: of Andral. They just built a quarter million square foot
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Speaker 1: factory in Ohio, and he went through all the different
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Speaker 1: segments that go into the decision making and the state
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Speaker 1: has to work to get you in, but the tax
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Speaker 1: rate has to be welcoming as well. I wonder do
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Speaker 1: you think the blue states will ever figure this out?
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, whether they like it or not, they're
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Speaker 6: going to figure it out when they lose the jobs, right,
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Speaker 6: and they can't build a wall to keep employees in
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Speaker 6: the state, can't keep a wall to keep employers in
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Speaker 6: the state. And with Ohio's moves that we've talked about
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Speaker 6: with the flat tax for small businesses, just the central
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Speaker 6: location of the state, if they could get right to
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Speaker 6: work with let's say a Governor Ramaswami and Lieutenant Governor
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Speaker 6: McAuley and some of the other things that will really
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Speaker 6: make that state stand out more.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you know, as you.
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Speaker 6: Know, Hugh, I'm a huge fan of what Ohio can
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Speaker 6: do in the years going forward after they got it
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Speaker 6: right on the flat tax.
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's finish with the state that's doomed.
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Speaker 1: California doomed and they've just been embarrassed again by their
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Speaker 1: election law. Spencer Pratt did not get to the finals.
17:35
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by that. By the way, the rule
17:36
Speaker 1: of thumb is if you're not more than ten percent
17:38
Speaker 1: ahead on election night, the Democrats are going to find
17:41
Speaker 1: the votes and it's not illegal. They've set it up
17:44
Speaker 1: that way. Does that ruin the way a state exist?
17:48
Speaker 1: Do you think that actually is a deficit for the
17:51
Speaker 1: state and attracting jobs and people to it.
17:55
Speaker 6: I mean, I think my take on it, Hugh, is
17:59
Speaker 6: you know whether something the farious was going on or not.
18:02
Speaker 6: It raises the question in people's minds right to say, hey,
18:06
Speaker 6: if you've got another big state like Florida that several
18:08
Speaker 6: hours after the polls closed, they can be ninety nine
18:11
Speaker 6: percent counted on total ballots, why does it take California
18:15
Speaker 6: weeks and weeks and weeks And it just.
18:17
Speaker 4: Raises the question of what might be going on?
18:19
Speaker 6: And you know, it's not generally conservatives that are running
18:22
Speaker 6: election administration in California these days.
18:24
Speaker 4: I think it's safe to say that, Hugh.
18:26
Speaker 6: And so when conservatives say, you know, Pratt didn't get
18:29
Speaker 6: across the finish line, Hilton kept losing votes on the
18:32
Speaker 6: gubernatorial It does just raise people's specter that hey, something
18:36
Speaker 6: amiss might be out there, whether it's happening or not.
18:39
Speaker 6: And I think California's got to get it together.
18:41
Speaker 4: This has kind of Banana.
18:42
Speaker 6: Republic stuff several weeks after the election, hundreds of thousands
18:46
Speaker 6: of votes not even tallied in some cases in the past.
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Speaker 1: And the American Legislative Exchange Council has a model statue,
18:52
Speaker 1: does it not? We do.
18:55
Speaker 6: We have a whole new task force on election integrity
18:58
Speaker 6: and process and procedures and people to check it out.
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19:18
Speaker 1: at Sarah Bedford is. We have a Washington Examiner, which
19:21
Speaker 1: you can find at DC Examiner dot com. Sarah, I
19:24
Speaker 1: have two things to cover with you. First of all,
19:26
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we've got planes over her run
19:29
Speaker 1: right now or not. There are lots of mixed reports yours.
19:33
Speaker 1: What is your understanding?
19:37
Speaker 7: You know Donald Trump is still, as always, playing things
19:40
Speaker 7: close to the vest. Last week he was joking about
19:43
Speaker 7: that a ceasefire looks like both sides only more moderately
19:46
Speaker 7: shooting at each other. And then obviously actions over the
19:50
Speaker 7: past few days have really tested that idea of what.
19:53
Speaker 8: Moderate shooting at each other really looks like.
19:56
Speaker 7: But it's clear that Donald Trump has to do something
19:59
Speaker 7: at some point to break the logjam that talks. Even
20:01
Speaker 7: though it seems like once a week he says we're
20:04
Speaker 7: so close, they're going very well, they really don't seem
20:06
Speaker 7: to be making that much progress, and at some point
20:09
Speaker 7: the US government is going to have to double down
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Speaker 7: on the use of force to break through that steal me.
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Speaker 1: Well, I keep monitoring everything I can, and there are
20:20
Speaker 1: lots of maps with lots of pictures of BE fifty
20:22
Speaker 1: two's going this way and that way, and a few
20:25
Speaker 1: reports of explosions in around, but nothing that I can
20:28
Speaker 1: sing my teeth into. If you see anything, send me
20:30
Speaker 1: a note. Second subject, they got everyone from Congress into
20:34
Speaker 1: the oval today because they signed this big second reconciliation,
20:38
Speaker 1: which again Speaker Johnson pulls a rabbit out of the house.
20:42
Speaker 1: How surprised were you that he pulled it off.
20:46
Speaker 7: You know it was going to happen eventually. The Democrats
20:49
Speaker 7: had exhausted all their options for blocking it. But it's
20:52
Speaker 7: actually surprised to me that it took this long for
20:55
Speaker 7: every Republican. This should have been an easy yes vote
20:59
Speaker 7: from the beginning. It's not a controversial thing even for
21:02
Speaker 7: moderates to fund immigration enforcement. It kind of shows that
21:06
Speaker 7: Donald Trump has spent a lot of his political capital.
21:09
Speaker 9: On other things like the war in Iran, and.
21:11
Speaker 7: He doesn't have as much leverage with that thin majority
21:14
Speaker 7: in Congress. So looking ahead to the third reconciliation vehicle,
21:19
Speaker 7: that really needs to get done at some point because
21:21
Speaker 7: it will include defense funding for the Iran war, that's
21:25
Speaker 7: a difficult road because Trump has spent all that capital.
21:29
Speaker 7: And look how hard a time the White House had
21:31
Speaker 7: getting done what should have been a layup in immigration
21:34
Speaker 7: enforcement funding.
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Speaker 1: I want to, though, celebrate one thing. I think this
21:38
Speaker 1: guarantees that the wall will be finished. Does it not
21:42
Speaker 1: that they can They have two and a half years
21:44
Speaker 1: now to finish the entirety of the wall. If it's
21:48
Speaker 1: not already done. What's your understanding about that? I think
21:50
Speaker 1: it means enough money will be there to finally seal
21:54
Speaker 1: the southern border with a physical barrier.
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Speaker 7: Yes, and it's not just this bill that right funding
22:00
Speaker 7: for that sort of thing. You had some in the
22:02
Speaker 7: One Big Beautiful Bill. The Trump administration has been putting
22:05
Speaker 7: money away for that since they got back into office,
22:08
Speaker 7: and they had already made pretty substantial progress during the
22:11
Speaker 7: first Trump administration, and that wasn't something that the Biden
22:14
Speaker 7: administration could reverse like it could just choosing not to
22:17
Speaker 7: enforce policies at the border. So at least that's one
22:21
Speaker 7: fulfilled campaign promise that looks likely to get done by
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Speaker 7: the end of Trump's term.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's an amazing promise. I have been
22:28
Speaker 1: since before you got into the business. I've been begging
22:31
Speaker 1: for a wall with a road or a double sided
22:33
Speaker 1: fence along the border, because a physical manifestation of an
22:38
Speaker 1: inward conviction is what you need to deter immigration. They've
22:42
Speaker 1: had almost zero people across the border compared to twenty
22:45
Speaker 1: twenty five million people under Joe Biden. Do you think
22:48
Speaker 1: that issue carries over into twenty twenty eight Sarah Bedford, Well.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, because Democrats haven't really confronted the question of what
22:57
Speaker 7: they believe immigration enforcement should look like. For years, under
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Speaker 7: Joe Biden, their policy was that everyone who wanted to
23:04
Speaker 7: come to the United States should be able to do so,
23:07
Speaker 7: regardless of their background, regardless of whether they fit into
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Speaker 7: any of the existing legal categories qualifying for asylum, for example.
23:15
Speaker 7: It was unfettered immigration into the United States. That's what
23:18
Speaker 7: Democrats stood for for years, and that turned out to
23:20
Speaker 7: be massively unpopular with the American people. It cost Democrats
23:26
Speaker 7: the presidency. Likely it's one of the huge reasons why
23:29
Speaker 7: everyone was so dissatisfied with the Biden administration and couldn't
23:32
Speaker 7: get on.
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Speaker 9: Board with Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 7: Democrats right now, all they're talking about is their opposition
23:37
Speaker 7: to the way Trump has carried out immigration enforcement, but
23:39
Speaker 7: they still don't have their own consensus on what it
23:42
Speaker 7: should look like and everything that came before now, the
23:46
Speaker 7: unfettered immigration piece of it, that's not something that Democrats
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Speaker 7: can get behind again if they want to regain power
23:52
Speaker 7: in Washington.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: I want to remind people the Great Migration that began
23:56
Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty and run for about forty years was
23:59
Speaker 1: a total of twenty million people. Joe Biden's migration was
24:03
Speaker 1: twenty million people. In four years. It was ridiculous. All right,
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Speaker 1: on to FI the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act section seven
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Speaker 1: oh two. Where do we stay on?
24:12
Speaker 10: Sarah Bedford Trump administration is going to have some trouble
24:17
Speaker 10: getting the so called clean with no reforms eighteen month
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Speaker 10: extension that they wanted this whole year.
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Speaker 7: Now Trump is backing another short term patch to potentially
24:28
Speaker 7: allow more time for negotiations. There's talk of maybe just
24:31
Speaker 7: a ten day one that would get a couple of
24:35
Speaker 7: more weeks of time for negotiating. There's a lot of
24:38
Speaker 7: talk that Bill Polte, Trump's pick for acting how of
24:41
Speaker 7: the od and I is the problem here, But I'm
24:44
Speaker 7: not sure that's true because Donald Trump couldn't get phis
24:47
Speaker 7: a renewal done back in April when Polte wasn't even
24:50
Speaker 7: remotely a part of this conversation. And the challenge here
24:53
Speaker 7: is that the Trump administration needs more than ten Democrats
24:57
Speaker 7: at this point to cross the aisle and give him
25:00
Speaker 7: this extension of section seven oh two authority, and the
25:03
Speaker 7: privacy concerns among Republicans are still there. The Poltay thing
25:07
Speaker 7: complicates it because you also have Democrats not willing to
25:10
Speaker 7: support seven oh two as long as Pulte is the acting.
25:14
Speaker 9: Director of National Intelligence.
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Speaker 7: So there's a lot of factors at play here, and
25:18
Speaker 7: the Trump administration running out of time because the current
25:21
Speaker 7: authorization expires on Friday.
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Speaker 1: If we go dark, every American's in danger. Do people
25:27
Speaker 1: understand that seven oh two is for the benefit of you,
25:30
Speaker 1: it's for the benefit of me. We follow bad guys
25:34
Speaker 1: in the country, and there are a lot of them.
25:36
Speaker 1: I used to do that thirty years ago. It's a
25:38
Speaker 1: big deal. Do people understand that?
25:42
Speaker 11: Well?
25:42
Speaker 7: The Trump administration has certainly been trying to make that case.
25:45
Speaker 7: That's why they've been advocating for a clean extension, which
25:49
Speaker 7: would in theory be the least controversial option. But you
25:53
Speaker 7: have Republicans like Howy, like Mike Lee Rand Paul in
25:56
Speaker 7: the Senate who want to see warrant requirements attached to
25:59
Speaker 7: searching the base of the communications.
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Speaker 9: That are collected under Section seven O two.
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Speaker 7: The White House hasn't been too interested in those reforms,
26:06
Speaker 7: and so you have that stalemate. And then, of course
26:09
Speaker 7: Pulte's presence at OD and I adds a whole another
26:11
Speaker 7: layer of complications.
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Speaker 1: I just can't believe that we're even debating this. Sarah
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26:25
Speaker 1: something that's new in breaking. I appreciate your joining me today, Sarah.
26:29
Speaker 1: I checked the wires through the break. There is yet
26:32
Speaker 1: no word of an actual attack on Iran, though there
26:36
Speaker 1: are lots of graphics showing lots of American bombers headed
26:40
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Speaker 1: back that I missed yesterday, and you had Jonathan Schanzer
27:26
Speaker 1: on today and the regular gang on today, and then
27:29
Speaker 1: the president as a presser in Nyovo, where he says,
27:32
Speaker 1: we're going to let me read you the quotes, because
27:34
Speaker 1: the quotes are pretty amazing. He says, we're going to
27:37
Speaker 1: be attacking them, attacking them very hard. We were really
27:40
Speaker 1: close to a deal, but they keep tapping us along,
27:42
Speaker 1: they keep playing us for suckers. Iran is all talking
27:46
Speaker 1: no action. They've taken too long to negotiate a deal
27:49
Speaker 1: that would have been great for them. Now they will
27:51
Speaker 1: have to pay the price. How do you read that?
27:55
Speaker 1: How do you hear that?
27:57
Speaker 12: I hear it great. I hope he means it. I
28:02
Speaker 12: don't trust that he does. Necessarily, he's been very bipolar
28:07
Speaker 12: about this for the last month. I mean, I think
28:10
Speaker 12: somebody tallied up thirty seven times in which he has
28:13
Speaker 12: said that we won the war already. So but it
28:17
Speaker 12: is very interesting that he used the language that they're
28:19
Speaker 12: playing us for suckers, because they're not playing us for suckers.
28:23
Speaker 12: They're playing him for a sucker. Maybe they're playing Jared
28:27
Speaker 12: and Witkough for suckers, but it's not like America.
28:32
Speaker 9: Is the sucker here.
28:35
Speaker 12: It was the decision to go with the ceasefire and
28:38
Speaker 12: to string along the idea that we should not be
28:42
Speaker 12: engaged in kinetic action against Iran that has allowed them
28:47
Speaker 12: to reconstitute some part of their missile program. It would
28:52
Speaker 12: appear since they are firing missiles with relative impunity, though
28:58
Speaker 12: you know at least toward Israel. Ten were fired toward
29:01
Speaker 12: Israel were intercepted. So we have basically sat there while
29:06
Speaker 12: they are digging stuff out and getting ready to make.
29:10
Speaker 9: Trouble for us.
29:11
Speaker 12: And I just don't see how the President doesn't respond.
29:15
Speaker 12: He seems so eager to get himself out of this
29:19
Speaker 12: mess that he's gotten himself into, that he's been.
29:23
Speaker 9: Forbearing.
29:24
Speaker 12: And if he now understands that he's being played for
29:27
Speaker 12: a sucker, what else can he do but crush them
29:30
Speaker 12: under his heel until they say uncle.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think, and I think when you come
29:36
Speaker 1: to the conclusion, the give phrase to me is we're
29:39
Speaker 1: being tap tap tapped along. He has used that phrase
29:42
Speaker 1: both before whenever he is getting frustrated with a negotiating partner.
29:47
Speaker 1: It's a land a real estate phrase where people change
29:50
Speaker 1: a little bit term over here and a little term
29:51
Speaker 1: over there because they don't have the money to close
29:53
Speaker 1: the deal, or they don't have the second payment to
29:55
Speaker 1: make the payment, or they just want to walk on
29:57
Speaker 1: the deal and they're dealing on the side, so they
29:59
Speaker 1: tap you along like a blind man with a cane
30:02
Speaker 1: top top top. When he uses that language, I think
30:05
Speaker 1: he's serious. Now, how serious? Adamal Mark Montgomery, where admal
30:08
Speaker 1: Montgomery's retired, was on Fox this morning. Jack Keane and
30:12
Speaker 1: he are the two guys I listened to, and Montgomery said,
30:15
Speaker 1: we can go to four hundred missions a day in
30:17
Speaker 1: a moment's notice. That's what I would like to see.
30:20
Speaker 1: Is that what you'd like to see.
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Speaker 12: I'd like to see. I'd like to see an effective
30:25
Speaker 12: effort to bring the Iranians to heal. So I don't
30:30
Speaker 12: know what the numbers are. I don't know what our
30:33
Speaker 12: capabilities are. I don't know how much of our defensive weaponry,
30:38
Speaker 12: for example, we have depleted. That's the talk of the
30:42
Speaker 12: world is that is that we went a whole bore
30:46
Speaker 12: and we haven't really been keeping up with how much
30:52
Speaker 12: defensive weaponry we need to reconstitute, as you know, over
30:57
Speaker 12: the last five to ten years. So we've used it,
31:00
Speaker 12: and we need to have more of it and make
31:03
Speaker 12: sure that we're defended against other possible attacks. All that
31:07
Speaker 12: being said, we decided unilaterally to end our offensive military operations.
31:15
Speaker 12: Called it a ceasefire. Said the ceasefire terms were the
31:19
Speaker 12: opening of the strait. Iranians didn't open the strait. And
31:23
Speaker 12: we continue to use the language of ceasefire while they
31:27
Speaker 12: fired at Kuwait, while they fired at Saudi Arabia, and
31:30
Speaker 12: now this week when they.
31:32
Speaker 9: Fired at Israel.
31:34
Speaker 12: And clearly somebody in the Iranian high leadership is negotiating.
31:41
Speaker 12: Apparently it's Arachi, the head of the parliament or the
31:44
Speaker 12: Prime Minister, I can't remember what his title is, but
31:47
Speaker 12: he's not in charge there. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
31:51
Speaker 12: is in charge there. And he may be negotiating until
31:53
Speaker 12: the cows come home and they're not listening to him.
31:56
Speaker 12: And who knows whether he's doing this in order to
31:58
Speaker 12: tap tap tap us long or whether he actually genuinely
32:02
Speaker 12: won some kind of a deal to get to escape,
32:05
Speaker 12: to let Iran escape from the noose that we are
32:08
Speaker 12: tightening around Iran's neck with our blockade against Hormuz, which
32:13
Speaker 12: is having significant economic impact on them.
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Speaker 1: That someone on commentary today or yesterday said that we
32:23
Speaker 1: have allowed them to dig their missiles out and present
32:26
Speaker 1: them as targets again, so that the delay may not
32:29
Speaker 1: have been that bad if they reopen the caverns of
32:32
Speaker 1: missiles and drones and brought them to the surface. Now
32:35
Speaker 1: they're in a position, and it sounded I think you're
32:37
Speaker 1: the one who said, Israel just kick the crap out
32:40
Speaker 1: of them. In one night's strike, they hit everything that
32:43
Speaker 1: meant anything to.
32:44
Speaker 12: Them, right, So if that's true, if they are pulling
32:50
Speaker 12: things out, we can see it from the sky like
32:52
Speaker 12: we have obviously, we are watching everything that they do everywhere,
32:57
Speaker 12: and we can see it, and we can we can
33:00
Speaker 12: on it, and we have so far decided not to
33:04
Speaker 12: do that in order not to interfere with this deal
33:07
Speaker 12: that Trump thinks that he can get. But if he's
33:11
Speaker 12: if he holds to the things that he said today,
33:15
Speaker 12: we're going back to war. But Hugh, you know as
33:20
Speaker 12: well as I do, that he's been very inconstant these
33:23
Speaker 12: last four or five weeks and is calling something a
33:28
Speaker 12: ceasefire that's not a ceasefire, and privileging the idea of
33:32
Speaker 12: a deal over the need to win this war, and
33:36
Speaker 12: so I you know, the proof of the pudding will
33:38
Speaker 12: be in the eating in the next twenty four or
33:40
Speaker 12: forty eight hours, whether.
33:41
Speaker 1: We actually do view my view John as he suffers
33:47
Speaker 1: politically a great deal at the polls in November. If
33:51
Speaker 1: he is inconscient between now and November. That is, base
33:54
Speaker 1: will show up and support Republicans if he's fighting to win,
33:58
Speaker 1: but they will not turn out to shop because it's
34:00
Speaker 1: still the Reagan Hawks. They're still out there. There's still
34:03
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the party. He did add to the
34:05
Speaker 1: party substantially. I don't think the restrainers make up a
34:08
Speaker 1: significant portion of the party at all. I think that's overstated.
34:12
Speaker 1: But there are a whole bunch of people my age
34:15
Speaker 1: and your age and younger who just don't want the
34:18
Speaker 1: United States to quiver. We don't like inconstancy. You agree
34:23
Speaker 1: with that assessment.
34:25
Speaker 12: I mean, I hope you're right, but I you know,
34:29
Speaker 12: I don't really understand the makeup of the electorate in
34:35
Speaker 12: the way that I think I once did. It's very
34:38
Speaker 12: hard to read the American electorate these days in a
34:42
Speaker 12: lot of ways. But I do think that we know
34:46
Speaker 12: when a job is finished, and when a job goes unfinished.
34:49
Speaker 12: We are in the middle of an unfinished job, and
34:51
Speaker 12: that can't help anybody that cannot help him.
34:55
Speaker 1: Okay, I want one last question, John, which is Graham Platner.
35:00
Speaker 1: I think anti Semitism has infected the entire Democratic Party.
35:04
Speaker 1: I think it's getting to lethal dosages. I think it
35:06
Speaker 1: will impact every Democrat running in every race. Do you
35:10
Speaker 1: agree with that assessment? Because this guy got a Nazi
35:12
Speaker 1: tattoo and he talks like a Nazi.
35:16
Speaker 12: The thing that's horrifying to me is that the anti
35:19
Speaker 12: Semitism that Grand Platner and some others have displayed has
35:23
Speaker 12: become for in their fundraising and in their organization inside
35:27
Speaker 12: the Democratic Party, a feature and not a bug. It
35:30
Speaker 12: is something that is drawing people's attention and drawing their support,
35:35
Speaker 12: not repelling them. And it will be up to the
35:38
Speaker 12: American people as an aggregate, meaning when in November the
35:43
Speaker 12: entire elector it has to make these decisions in places
35:48
Speaker 12: like Maine and elsewhere, in some congressional races in New
35:52
Speaker 12: Jersey and elsewhere, it will be up to them to
35:55
Speaker 12: make it clear whether or not this country has taken
35:58
Speaker 12: a step back word into you know, infamous Jew hatred,
36:04
Speaker 12: and I do not believe that that is the nature
36:07
Speaker 12: of this country.
36:08
Speaker 1: I do.
36:09
Speaker 9: I am with you in thinking that this is a
36:12
Speaker 9: disease that the.
36:13
Speaker 12: Democratic Party has caught, that will that will make it
36:16
Speaker 12: sicker and sicker, and will harm it and not help it.
36:21
Speaker 12: But we are going to have to see how this
36:24
Speaker 12: plays out, unfortunately, because they are one of the two
36:29
Speaker 12: major country parties in the country, and and they will
36:33
Speaker 12: need a reckoning. But the American people who ones, they
36:36
Speaker 12: are going to have to give them the reckoning in
36:38
Speaker 12: the front of how they vote.
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Speaker 1: Platner in Maine, Elsie in Michigan, Flannagan and Minnesota, Hallami
36:45
Speaker 1: and New Jersey. There are a half dozen races. But
36:47
Speaker 1: every Democrat's got to understand their party is being poisoned
36:51
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36:53
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Speaker 1: senior writer for National Review, author of the brand new
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Speaker 1: News channel is a beautifully positioned over Noah's right shoulder
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Speaker 1: and on his left arm, so we get both on
37:39
Speaker 1: both sides. There they are blood and progress, Blood and progress,
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Speaker 1: Blood and progress. We'll always be closing, I always be selling.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Graham Platner, since he is blood in progress.
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Speaker 1: We'll come back to a run at the end. Grant
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Speaker 1: Platner won last night, but he only one was seventy
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Speaker 1: two percent against a non campaigning seventy nine year old
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Speaker 1: governor who had suspended your campaign. If you can only
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Speaker 1: get seventy percent of the Democratic hardcore turnout, I think
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Speaker 1: he is a fatally flawed candidate.
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Speaker 13: What do you think, Noah, Well, I think he's a
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Speaker 13: fatally flawed candidate too, But I'm not sure that those
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Speaker 13: results reinforced that impression. For me, seventy two percent. He
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Speaker 13: was pulling it around seventy six percent before the latest allegations,
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Speaker 13: the alleged physical abuse.
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Speaker 9: Allegations hit the wire.
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Speaker 13: And if that costs you all of four percent in
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Speaker 13: a Democratic primary, I'm not impressed by the sudden moral
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Speaker 13: recalculation that has been imposed on the Democratic voter base
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Speaker 13: in Maine.
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Speaker 1: If you listen to his incoherent statements about the economy.
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Speaker 1: We've been spending so much time on Graham Platner's many imperfections,
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Speaker 1: his many violent tendencies, as many outbursts, his abuse of women,
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Speaker 1: his mocking of veterans, et cetera, that we have overlooked
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Speaker 1: the fact he's in coherent. He's really a dummy.
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Speaker 13: I would love to hear it. I have not heard
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Speaker 13: his economic pronouncements. I've heard his policy platforms, which are
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Speaker 13: very progressive, populist Bernie Sanders' style, nationalize American industry so
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Speaker 13: that we can spread the wealth around. That sort of
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Speaker 13: economic atturacy. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's more
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Speaker 13: to come.
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Speaker 1: Well, he's got to sit down for a real interview,
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Speaker 1: all right. Donald Trump this morning tells the Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal We're going to be attacking Iran very hard, attacking
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Speaker 1: them very hard. We were really close to a deal,
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Speaker 1: but they keep tapping us along, they keep playing us
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Speaker 1: for suckers. Iran is all talk and no action. They've
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Speaker 1: taken too long to negotiate a deal that would have
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Speaker 1: been great for them. Now they will have to pay
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Speaker 1: the price. The President also announced it. Over the last
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Speaker 1: many weeks at night, we have shipped hundreds of millions
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Speaker 1: of barrels of oil out of the strait of horror
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Speaker 1: moves under the nose of the alleged Iranian sentinels. What
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Speaker 1: do you make of all that, Noahrothmund.
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Speaker 13: Well, the transit, the transit of these shifts through the
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Speaker 13: Persian Gulf, introducing more oil into the markets. That's very good,
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Speaker 13: and it demonstrates that the regime, the administration rather did
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Speaker 13: not abandon Operation Liberty, the escort missions they had done
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Speaker 13: during this Operation Freedom Thank You during the ceasefire period.
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Speaker 13: Even though it looked like those had slowed, it turns
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Speaker 13: out they were going on covertly, which is very good news. Likewise,
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Speaker 13: the strikes that we saw last night were probably the
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Speaker 13: biggest of this very hot ceasefire. They struck about twenty targets,
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Speaker 13: all of the military and nature also very valuable.
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Speaker 9: And what howe Ram responded.
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Speaker 13: I thought was actually very intriguing to me because previously
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Speaker 13: during the ceasefire, they had done what had produced maximum
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Speaker 13: effect for them, which were strikes on civilian infrastructure, civilian
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Speaker 13: targets around.
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Speaker 9: The Gulf region.
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Speaker 13: Last night, they as far as I know, struck at
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Speaker 13: or launched missiles at US military installations in and around
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Speaker 13: the region and Jordan and Bahrain and elsewhere, perhaps attempting
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Speaker 13: to communicate to the US and the Israelis that their
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Speaker 13: posture is not escalatory, it's actually a little bit more
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Speaker 13: de escalatory. What really freaked out the White House, in
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Speaker 13: my view, was the threat posed by Iranian ballistic missiles
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Speaker 13: to civilian infrastructure in the region, combined with the crunch
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Speaker 13: that we're experiencing with our inventory of exquisite interceptor munitions.
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Speaker 13: That seems to me like the most rational explanation for
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Speaker 13: the President's reluctance to go back to high tempo combat operations.
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Speaker 13: I've thought we've had to go back to high tempo
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Speaker 13: combat operations since mid April at the very at the
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Speaker 13: very latest, but it's been a prolonged period here, and
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Speaker 13: the Iranians have dug out. The Iranians have regrouped, reinforced
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Speaker 13: their positions. They're prepared to fire a lot of these
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Speaker 13: missiles that they were firing before. So if we go
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Speaker 13: back to high temple operations, we probably will have to
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Speaker 13: have a posture that is prolonged and sustained longer than
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Speaker 13: maybe the administration wants.
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Speaker 9: Barackravite has a report of today.
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Speaker 13: That indicates US officials are saying it's going to be
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Speaker 13: If it comes, it's going to be short. It's going
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Speaker 13: to be significant and heavy, but it's going to be short,
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Speaker 13: and I don't know if it.
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Speaker 9: Be short anymore.
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Speaker 13: First we have to disable all across the board offensive capabilities,
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Speaker 13: which means first we have to disable their defensive capabilities.
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Speaker 13: In a lot of ways, we're going back to to
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Speaker 13: the conditions that prevailed in early March, and that means
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Speaker 13: that there's going to be a couple of weeks of
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Speaker 13: fighting ahead, and I hope the President has prepared for it.
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Speaker 1: The President also mentioned bridges and power plants. I hope
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Speaker 1: he follows through on that. I understand it's got to
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Speaker 1: be dual used to be a legitimate target in war,
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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of power plants powering a
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Speaker 1: lot of Asiasian I ORGC facilities. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of bridges that allow them to move. But I also
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Speaker 1: heard on commentary either today or yesterday, I think it
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Speaker 1: was Jonathan Chanzer said, in the two months ceasefire, Iran
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Speaker 1: has dug out a lot of their missiles and drones
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Speaker 1: that were in the deep cavern and they brought them
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Speaker 1: above ground. And it was John's argument, I think was
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Speaker 1: John saying, those are just our new target list, and
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Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of crafty if we did that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: And one of my response to a lot of the
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Speaker 13: reports that we've been getting over the last two months,
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Speaker 13: which had been and you know, heavy with somber assessments
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Speaker 13: of the degree to which we have left so much
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Speaker 13: of the Iranian offensive capability intact.
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Speaker 9: You know, they're like, oh.
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Speaker 13: We have seventy percent of that. They still have seventy
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Speaker 13: percent of their missile stocks. Well, they had one hundred
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Speaker 13: percent of their missile stocks at the outset of the war,
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Speaker 13: and those the firing of those missiles slowed to a trickle,
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Speaker 13: not because their inventories were depleted, but because we were
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Speaker 13: interdicting it. We were disabling their launch vehicles, we were
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Speaker 13: shooting at whatever targets we could find intercepting the missiles
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Speaker 13: that we could hitting those that launched, closing off the
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Speaker 13: caverns where they are with missile strikes. So we could
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Speaker 13: do that again. I wouldn't be surprised if we did.
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Speaker 13: I think we have to. However, I do want to
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Speaker 13: know what these strikes are designed to achieve. Strategically, I
43:45
Speaker 13: know what they're designed to achieve tactically, the great Iran's
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Speaker 13: position even further and force them to the negotiating table.
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Speaker 13: But the strategic goal is to force them into an
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Speaker 13: agreed upon settlement. And does that happen with strikes on infrastructure?
43:59
Speaker 13: Does that happen with strikes some offensive capabilities? Is that
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Speaker 13: the sort of thing you have to engineer by disabling
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Speaker 13: and dismantling and neutralizing the Iranian leadership cast in so
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Speaker 13: far as you can. It seems to me like the
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Speaker 13: target list has to be pretty big because I think
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Speaker 13: all of those would contribute to the diminution of Iran's
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Speaker 13: resolve to resist the American and Israeli onslaught. Which means
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Speaker 13: there's going to be a very big target list, and
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Speaker 13: it means it's going to be a long operation.
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Speaker 9: I hope this administration.
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Speaker 13: Knows what it's getting into, because it does need a
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Speaker 13: resolution to this war. The status quo that has prevailed
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Speaker 13: over the last two months has been pretty intolerable politically,
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Speaker 13: if not economically and militarily.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about politics, mere kind of have to.
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Speaker 13: I think you're going to have to go after the
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Speaker 13: guy ORGC leadership in order to get to find the
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Speaker 13: guy down the ladder who's willing to talk to you
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Speaker 13: in good faith.
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Speaker 9: And there might be a lot of strikes before we
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Speaker 9: get to that guy.
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Speaker 1: All right, we got a minute left. I believe that
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Speaker 1: if the president prosecutes the war to the full, and
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Speaker 1: it takes two months, even three months, even four months,
45:03
Speaker 1: but it's showing real results and they're crippling the Iranian regime,
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Speaker 1: and he reports back that his base will support him.
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Speaker 1: I do not believe there's any political downside in that.
45:14
Speaker 1: I believe there's enormous political downside in not finishing the job.
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Speaker 1: Last minute to.
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Speaker 9: You, Yeah, I agree with that.
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Speaker 13: The worst case scenario for this president would be a
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Speaker 13: stalemated conflict that persists in the status quo that prevails
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Speaker 13: today indefinitely, where it's just kind of a simmering conflict.
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Speaker 13: Sometimes hot, sometimes not, but generally a drag on the
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Speaker 13: economy and an embarrassment for the president. Frankly, his pronouncements,
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Speaker 13: table pounding pronouncements about how a reign of destruction is
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Speaker 13: imminent on Iran and that never materializes, has sapped him
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Speaker 13: of political credibility and capital.
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Speaker 9: He needs to go to get it back, and he
45:49
Speaker 9: needs to.
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Speaker 1: He can get it back in forty eight hours, and
45:52
Speaker 1: maybe those forty eight hours would begun. We don't know.
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46:06
Speaker 1: You'll know anything about Graham, Platin, er Elsi, Ed Planagan, IAmA,
46:10
Speaker 1: all of them. Stay tuned, America. I'm here, Bethany Mandel,
46:14
Speaker 1: she's here now. Bethany joins us from a remote location
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Speaker 1: with fourteen children. Hello, Bethany, are you alive?
46:22
Speaker 2: I somehow?
46:23
Speaker 1: Yes? All right, I want people to know the background here.
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Speaker 1: You're on a mom's gathering, a vacation with moms, and
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Speaker 1: you took all fourteen children with the moms. That isn't
46:34
Speaker 1: a mom vacation. That's a gift to the husbands. Can
46:38
Speaker 1: we put that out there? Do they know they owe
46:41
Speaker 1: you a gift card? And like a staycation.
46:43
Speaker 8: Somewhere one day.
46:47
Speaker 11: There's a lot of little kids here and so they're
46:50
Speaker 11: still pretty attached to moms, so if if we want
46:52
Speaker 11: to get together, we have to bring along the kids.
46:54
Speaker 11: And it's been really fun.
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Speaker 1: So well, he completely how do you feed? What do
46:58
Speaker 1: you feed fourteen children? I've had, I have seven grandchildren
47:02
Speaker 1: soon to be eight. When they all come, we can
47:06
Speaker 1: kind of because the oldest is in seventh grade and
47:08
Speaker 1: the youngest is one, we can kind of figure out
47:11
Speaker 1: a menu. Fourteen's got to be an age range.
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Speaker 11: Yes, so the oldest is almost thirteen and the youngest
47:19
Speaker 11: is I think two. So we're they're eating in chifts,
47:23
Speaker 11: eating off of paper plates, and it's just a giant
47:25
Speaker 11: buffet and you know, some people are just eating noodles.
47:30
Speaker 11: Some people are eating the whole you know, the whole thing,
47:32
Speaker 11: and we're just we're just doing it.
47:36
Speaker 1: How many pizzas? Thus far, no pizzas.
47:42
Speaker 11: We have like a gourmet chef here doing not really,
47:45
Speaker 11: but she's been producing incredible stuff. We had pulled pull
47:50
Speaker 11: tacos yesterday with fresh made guacamole and tomato salad. It's
47:55
Speaker 11: been I feel like I'm on vacation with practically a
47:58
Speaker 11: home chef.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had fourteen children to take care of.
48:01
Speaker 1: They would eat pizza and nothing but pizza, and they
48:04
Speaker 1: would like it, and they would like it. By the way,
48:06
Speaker 1: all right, let's turn to Graham Platner. You have been
48:10
Speaker 1: quoted as a corroborating person for the victim, Leslie Fifield.
48:16
Speaker 1: Am I saying her name correctly? Lindsay, Lindsey Fifield, Lindsay, Okay,
48:23
Speaker 1: I believe her. I believe her for reasons they have
48:25
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you corroborating her. But because of
48:28
Speaker 1: the fact I covered domestic abuse for ten years in
48:30
Speaker 1: LA on the nightly news, and we know the signs
48:33
Speaker 1: of domestic abuse, including repeat offenses, false imprisonment, unlawful imprisonment, harassment,
48:41
Speaker 1: all that. How is she doing in the aftermath of
48:45
Speaker 1: being courageous enough to put her name on the story.
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Speaker 11: She's good. I mean, I think that this was a
48:53
Speaker 11: really stressful thing. This was her worst relationship by far,
48:57
Speaker 11: and so this is judging a lot up. There was
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Speaker 11: a free Press story that came out yesterday that I
49:02
Speaker 11: think was well done and gave her a fair voice.
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Speaker 11: But one thing that I want to note is that
49:09
Speaker 11: she didn't want to come forward. The New York Times
49:12
Speaker 11: chased her and then did her dirty so I think
49:16
Speaker 11: it was a catch and kill. I think that that
49:18
Speaker 11: was their intention. But the Platner campaign is doing, you know,
49:23
Speaker 11: is spreading apo about her, and they're calling it partisan.
49:27
Speaker 11: But the reality is, like the stuff that he's lied
49:29
Speaker 11: about is really wild. That he has lied that they
49:32
Speaker 11: never dated when she has so much corroborating evidence. I
49:36
Speaker 11: remember her talking about him for years. And the other
49:40
Speaker 11: claim is that he didn't know what his tattoo was.
49:44
Speaker 11: How did I know what his tattoo was in August?
49:46
Speaker 11: If she if he claims that he didn't know, he's
49:50
Speaker 11: just brazenly, pathologically lying. He's a bad guy, and I
49:54
Speaker 11: hope he doesn't make it to the Senate because this
49:56
Speaker 11: is this it should be a bridge too far.
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Speaker 1: I think he's a so zopath. When you go after
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Speaker 1: Marcus Cetrel and Chris Kyle and Tommy I think Fields
50:06
Speaker 1: is the third veteran. He's attacked three American heroes. There's
50:09
Speaker 1: a bit of envy at work. There, there's a bit
50:11
Speaker 1: of psychiatry that needs to be done. So I think
50:14
Speaker 1: he's a psychopath. But I want to turn back to
50:16
Speaker 1: what the New York Times did. You use the term
50:19
Speaker 1: catch and kill. That's what David Pecker would do at
50:21
Speaker 1: the National Inquirer. Payoff someone sign an NBA. What the
50:25
Speaker 1: New York Times did was trap and tame. They sanitized it.
50:29
Speaker 1: They trapped Lindsey into talking to them letter to believe
50:35
Speaker 1: that they would be publishing other names, and then they
50:37
Speaker 1: tamed the story by the use of their adjectives. Does
50:41
Speaker 1: anyone not see that that it was trapping and taming
50:44
Speaker 1: a story? I don't know.
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Speaker 11: I mean, they spent eleven paragraphs talking about his her background,
50:51
Speaker 11: and no one has spent that amount of time looking
50:53
Speaker 11: into his background and actually getting to the answers. And
50:57
Speaker 11: then they downplay everything that they said, and they said,
51:01
Speaker 11: you know that she couldn't corroborate this, And the important
51:05
Speaker 11: thing about the Free Press piece was that she provided
51:07
Speaker 11: corroborating witnesses, and that was they The New York Times
51:11
Speaker 11: did not call those people to corroborate, and so they
51:13
Speaker 11: said she couldn't corroborate, but they didn't try to corroborate,
51:17
Speaker 11: and so that was that was an important thing that
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Speaker 11: the free pressu accomplice, was actual journalism. And so I
51:23
Speaker 11: think that she got her story across and I think
51:24
Speaker 11: it's an important one.
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Speaker 1: It's a very important one. And I want main voters,
51:28
Speaker 1: especially about across the United States. We've got say Ed
51:31
Speaker 1: and Michigan, Flannagan and Minnesota, Hawami and New Jersey. We
51:35
Speaker 1: have a bunch of anti Semitic nuts running in the
51:37
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and anti Semitism is deep, and violence is deep,
51:41
Speaker 1: and I just think a general derangement has overcome Democrats.
51:45
Speaker 1: Have you followed this pattern, it's just derangement.
51:49
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah. And it's not just anti Semitism, it's pure
51:52
Speaker 11: anti Western values. They're anti Americans. It's all the same
51:57
Speaker 11: ecosystem of hate. And they want to just destroy this country.
52:01
Speaker 11: And they're not hiding that fact. They are members of
52:04
Speaker 11: the DSA and they want to deconstruct what our country
52:08
Speaker 11: is and reconstruct it in the image of socialism. And
52:13
Speaker 11: that's why these candidates have all been recruited, because they
52:17
Speaker 11: would play to those to those impulses, and it's really scary, and.
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Speaker 1: They're raising money from ac Blue. The lead of which
52:25
Speaker 1: testified in Congress and invoked the Fifth Amendment repeatedly today
52:29
Speaker 1: because ac Blue is simply a funnel for foreign money
52:33
Speaker 1: into left wing democrats who hate America. Bethany Mandel enjoy
52:37
Speaker 1: feeding fourteen in the hour ahead. I'm glad it's not
52:40
Speaker 1: me and that that it's you. But saleo to all
52:43
Speaker 1: the kids for some of that you hear at shows.
52:45
Speaker 1: Thank to in America. I'll be right back. Follow Bethany
52:47
Speaker 1: on next to Bethany, Sean Dark Welcome back to America.
52:51
Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, please to welcome back for the first
52:54
Speaker 1: time since you've become a father comfortably smug, smug. Congratulations
52:59
Speaker 1: your dad. How's it going?
53:01
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. It's honestly, it's the best thing
53:04
Speaker 5: that's ever happened to me. Every single day with my
53:07
Speaker 5: baby boys, the best day of my life.
53:09
Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell because you're wearing your shades. Are
53:13
Speaker 1: you getting any sleep? Are your eyes bloodshot? And our
53:17
Speaker 1: bags underneath there.
53:19
Speaker 5: Were My wife and I are working valiantly to get
53:22
Speaker 5: as many hours a night as possible.
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Speaker 14: It's a struggle, but it's worth it, Okay.
53:26
Speaker 1: I just congratulations from everyone. They were very nice to
53:29
Speaker 1: you when you were gone. By the way, I thought
53:31
Speaker 1: they were too nice to you. You were taking what
53:33
Speaker 1: appeared to be like federal employee leave from Rootless. You
53:37
Speaker 1: were gone for like months at a time. So I'm
53:39
Speaker 1: glad you're back. Smug I got to start. I'm talking
53:42
Speaker 1: to you from Maine. I'm up in Maine to watch
53:45
Speaker 1: what's going on this Grand Platner. I've seen a lot
53:49
Speaker 1: of bad candidates in my life. I mean a lot
53:51
Speaker 1: of bad candidates. He is Christine O'Donnell, he is there.
53:55
Speaker 1: I'm not a witch. Do you think he has any
53:58
Speaker 1: chance at all? Giving out crazy Democrats are?
54:02
Speaker 5: So that's the thing is, I think you're right. And
54:04
Speaker 5: on the show, Holmes made the statement and I agree
54:07
Speaker 5: with it that Graham Plattner is likely the worst Senate
54:10
Speaker 5: candidate we've ever had, we've ever seen, and I believe
54:15
Speaker 5: that diagnosis. And the problem here, though, is institutionally the
54:21
Speaker 5: Democrat Party is so rotten to the core where they
54:25
Speaker 5: have no uniting beliefs anymore. They are not about any
54:29
Speaker 5: sort of policies. It's how you end up with things
54:31
Speaker 5: like you know, Gays for Gaza, where.
54:34
Speaker 14: It's seemingly disparate groups.
54:36
Speaker 5: United under one banner, and the only cause they believe
54:39
Speaker 5: in is power. So if you have an individual who
54:42
Speaker 5: has a swastika tattooed on them, who's documented history is
54:47
Speaker 5: of heinous thing after heinous thing, who's lied about his
54:51
Speaker 5: entire personality, he's not an oyster farmer. When your only
54:55
Speaker 5: client is your mother's restaurant, you're not an oyster farmer.
54:57
Speaker 5: You're You're just a baby living on parent welfare. His
55:01
Speaker 5: entire persona is fake. Everything about him is a lie.
55:04
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if that's how
55:07
Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer can try to get a majority, that's how
55:09
Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer's going to try to get a majority.
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Speaker 1: Well, they will throw in and they'll raise a ton
55:14
Speaker 1: of money from ac Blue. But don't you feel dirty
55:17
Speaker 1: if you contribute money to this guy? The Lindsay Liffile,
55:20
Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying your name correctly. His old girlfriend
55:24
Speaker 1: who said, yeah, that's a Nazi tattoo. And we've got
55:26
Speaker 1: the text. We've got him slandering Marcus Liutrell, Chris Pyle,
55:30
Speaker 1: We've got him slandering the American that he was shot
55:33
Speaker 1: because he took fire away from his platoon. We've got
55:36
Speaker 1: the Reddit common We don't know it's on kick yet.
55:39
Speaker 1: Don't you feel kind of like that's not where you
55:41
Speaker 1: want to send your Act Blue money.
55:44
Speaker 5: That's the thing is, so, you know, there's these reports
55:47
Speaker 5: which came out and it's been confirmed that he was
55:49
Speaker 5: on an app which has been you know, called like
55:52
Speaker 5: an app for super predators to pray upon children. He
55:55
Speaker 5: had an active profile on there. This just really shows
55:58
Speaker 5: there is no line left that the Democrats are unwilling
56:03
Speaker 5: to cross for their quest for power. They do not
56:06
Speaker 5: believe anymore in any of the lines that they fundraised
56:11
Speaker 5: off of the Believe all Women, everything that they tried
56:13
Speaker 5: to use to bork our Supreme Court justices. They don't
56:18
Speaker 5: believe in any of that. Would they believe in his power?
56:21
Speaker 14: And Platner just exposes that in technicolor right.
56:25
Speaker 1: None of it that's exposed. He only got seventy seventy
56:28
Speaker 1: two percent of the vote last night in Maine, and
56:31
Speaker 1: so he is not He can't even appeal to the
56:35
Speaker 1: Democratic base. Does Susan Collins have to worry about him?
56:39
Speaker 1: She is a phenomenal servant of Maine. She's been there
56:42
Speaker 1: for thirty years, She's made ten thousand consecutive votes. I
56:46
Speaker 1: don't think I've done ten thousand anything in my life
56:48
Speaker 1: except radio broadcast. What do you do? Is she beatable
56:52
Speaker 1: or does she just ignore him? At this point?
56:55
Speaker 5: I think the thing is that at every single election,
56:58
Speaker 5: I don't care what any polling shows, you have to
57:01
Speaker 5: run as hard as possible. You'll you know, history is
57:04
Speaker 5: littered with candidates who took it for granted and end
57:07
Speaker 5: up getting surprised. And the last thing she would want
57:09
Speaker 5: to happen is get surprised. She should take him complete series.
57:12
Speaker 5: I know her campaign is, and I know Republicans are
57:15
Speaker 5: taking Platner very seriously, as they should. The entire mainstream
57:19
Speaker 5: media has essentially been doing what they can to try
57:22
Speaker 5: to cover for Grand Planner, even this latest New York
57:25
Speaker 5: Times article exposing all of his misdeeds as that individually
57:30
Speaker 5: you mentioned Lindsay Feifield was. She came out and said
57:32
Speaker 5: that the New York Times basically ran cover for Platner.
57:35
Speaker 5: They let her out to dry, saying that this is
57:38
Speaker 5: an individual who's worked for conservative organizations, to try to
57:41
Speaker 5: give the suggestion that, oh, you know, this is probably
57:45
Speaker 5: a biased account. They didn't give the names or the
57:49
Speaker 5: stories behind the other women who were willing to come
57:52
Speaker 5: forward like they had promised lindsay that they would. So
57:54
Speaker 5: the mainstream media is going to do everything they can
57:57
Speaker 5: to try to deliver a Senate majority to the Demo.
58:00
Speaker 5: We can't take this race for granted. I don't think
58:02
Speaker 5: Susan Collins is.
58:03
Speaker 1: It used to be that the National Inquoir would run
58:05
Speaker 1: the catch and kill story. They would get an NDA
58:08
Speaker 1: and they would kill the story. This was a trap
58:10
Speaker 1: and tame story, so they put it out in a
58:13
Speaker 1: sanitized version, trying not to hurt him. But I think
58:16
Speaker 1: the weight is too heavy. Second political race, your own
58:20
Speaker 1: home state of North Carolina. Most people consider that to
58:23
Speaker 1: be the most vulnerable. I had on Sherman Watley earlier today.
58:27
Speaker 1: What's your feel on the ground and can we register
58:30
Speaker 1: young smug to vote?
58:33
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he can't vote yet, but I'm going to be
58:35
Speaker 5: voting in that and I want all North Carolinians to
58:39
Speaker 5: get out there and vote for Waltley for Senate.
58:41
Speaker 14: This is the thing is right now.
58:43
Speaker 5: You have a North Carolina which has given up back
58:47
Speaker 5: to back statewide wins to Democrats who ran the Abigail
58:52
Speaker 5: Spainberger playbook of right. Run like you're a moderate, but
58:56
Speaker 5: when you get into office, you go as far left
58:59
Speaker 5: as you possibly can. Thank God that we have on
59:03
Speaker 5: a state level a Republican supermajority that Michael Whatley helped engineer.
59:08
Speaker 5: When he was running the North Carolina GOP did an
59:10
Speaker 5: outstanding job holding the line against these insane left wing policies,
59:15
Speaker 5: which is why North Carolina is a wonderful state to
59:18
Speaker 5: live in. Unfortunately, now you have one of these former
59:21
Speaker 5: governors who has a statewide name recognition running for that
59:25
Speaker 5: Senate seat now that's being vacated by Tillis. We need
59:28
Speaker 5: to make sure Whatley wins because what you're seeing happening
59:31
Speaker 5: across this country, what you see just up north in
59:33
Speaker 5: Virginia with Abigail Spamberger can happen in North Carolina.
59:37
Speaker 1: All right, last question, smug. As we speak, it appears
59:41
Speaker 1: as though the B fifty two's are on their way too,
59:44
Speaker 1: if not already over Iran. I'll quote President Trump to you,
59:48
Speaker 1: We're going to be attacking them, attacking them very hard.
59:50
Speaker 1: We are really close to a deal, but they keep
59:52
Speaker 1: tapping us along, they keep playing us for suckers. Iran
59:56
Speaker 1: is all talk and no action. They've taken too long
59:58
Speaker 1: to negotiate a deal that would have been great for them.
1:00:00
Speaker 1: Now they have to pay the price. What do you
1:00:03
Speaker 1: want to see done here, smart, I want.
1:00:07
Speaker 5: To see whatever is necessary to reopen the Strait of
1:00:12
Speaker 5: Ormuz and remove Iran as a threat.
1:00:15
Speaker 14: If they have not been negotiating in good faith.
1:00:18
Speaker 5: President Trump has given them more than enough opportunities to
1:00:21
Speaker 5: come to the table and get a reasonable deal done.
1:00:24
Speaker 14: And he is completely right.
1:00:26
Speaker 5: If they're going to be foolish, if they're going to
1:00:28
Speaker 5: shoot an American aircraft, they're going to pay the price
1:00:31
Speaker 5: and they're going to have to learn the hard way.
1:00:34
Speaker 1: Now. We have always when the first president said, when
1:00:37
Speaker 1: President first Put set out we're going to hit their
1:00:39
Speaker 1: bridges and power plants, we heard the left go, you
1:00:41
Speaker 1: can't hit bridges and power plants. Those are a civilian thing.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: In fact, we hit every bridge and power plant we
1:00:45
Speaker 1: could in Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Should we hit
1:00:49
Speaker 1: power plants and bridges if they have any use to
1:00:51
Speaker 1: the regime?
1:00:53
Speaker 14: I think so.
1:00:53
Speaker 5: At this point that regime is essentially just a terrorist
1:00:58
Speaker 5: regime that uses is illegal oil sale money to maintain
1:01:03
Speaker 5: control across that country. In a patronage system. That's why,
1:01:07
Speaker 5: unfortunately it's been so difficult to displace. President Trump used
1:01:11
Speaker 5: to do whatever it takes to get them out of power.
1:01:13
Speaker 5: Reopen the street.
1:01:15
Speaker 1: All Right's good to talk to Smug comfortably Smug on ax.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Listen to the fellows on the Ruthless Podcast on Monday,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: Thursday Friday or Tuesday Thursday Friday, Tuesday, Thursday Friday. Come
1:01:25
Speaker 1: right back to the Uwit Show. Congressman Bomb Grutner is next.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Has promised a
1:01:40
Speaker 1: new guest on the Uuit Show, Congressman Michael Bambgatner. He
1:01:43
Speaker 1: represents Washington State in its fifth district that's out in
1:01:47
Speaker 1: the eastern part of the state. Congressman is also on
1:01:49
Speaker 1: the Foreign Affairs Committee as well as a couple other committees.
1:01:52
Speaker 1: But I heard him on School of War a couple
1:01:54
Speaker 1: of weeks back with Aaron McLain. I said, I want
1:01:56
Speaker 1: to talk to him. So Congressman, thank you for joining me.
1:01:59
Speaker 1: I appreciate you're making time before we get to the
1:02:02
Speaker 1: Singapore conference. What you were talking to Aaron about your
1:02:06
Speaker 1: comments on President Trump's from marks today that we were
1:02:09
Speaker 1: really close to a deal, but they keep tapping us along,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: they keep playing us for suckers. We're going to be
1:02:15
Speaker 1: hitting them, attacking them very hard. And the Iran is
1:02:18
Speaker 1: all talking no action. They've taken too long to negotiate
1:02:22
Speaker 1: a deal that would have been great for them. Now
1:02:24
Speaker 1: they will have to pay the price. What do you think.
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Speaker 8: Well, first let me say, Hugh, thank you so much
1:02:28
Speaker 8: for avitation me on your show.
1:02:29
Speaker 15: I've been a long time big Hugh Hewitt fan, so
1:02:32
Speaker 15: this is a real honor and I'm delighted that you
1:02:34
Speaker 15: want to talk about Ronnie. And terrorist regime is the IRCG,
1:02:38
Speaker 15: and you know, like they've been at war with America
1:02:41
Speaker 15: for nearly fifty years, have killed scores of Americans and
1:02:44
Speaker 15: others across the Middle East, and them having a nuclear
1:02:47
Speaker 15: weapon would be like Adolf Hitler having a nuclear weapon
1:02:50
Speaker 15: or Osama binlat and have a nuclear weapon, and we
1:02:53
Speaker 15: can't allow that to happen. But these guys are dug
1:02:55
Speaker 15: in and they're tough. But the good thing is we
1:02:57
Speaker 15: have a lot of options, and in my view, we
1:02:59
Speaker 15: control the timetable that we have leverage over them that
1:03:02
Speaker 15: they don't have over us. So I think it's appropriate
1:03:06
Speaker 15: for President Trump to take action right now. But I
1:03:10
Speaker 15: also know that we have the timetable and the leverage
1:03:16
Speaker 15: and so that he can be strategic in what comes next.
1:03:19
Speaker 1: So Carth and Baumgarder, it appears as though we are
1:03:22
Speaker 1: striking now. We don't know yet because I don't know
1:03:25
Speaker 1: have clarences. You might have clearences if we do begin
1:03:29
Speaker 1: not reprisal strikes such as followed the downing of the
1:03:32
Speaker 1: passages up here just for but if we go after
1:03:36
Speaker 1: them hard, do you want him to finish the job
1:03:39
Speaker 1: or do you want them back off and give them
1:03:40
Speaker 1: another lane for negotiation.
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Speaker 15: Well, our first interest is making sure they don't have
1:03:47
Speaker 15: a nuclear weapon. And you know it's good that their
1:03:50
Speaker 15: nuclear material is now under a mount of dirt, but
1:03:54
Speaker 15: it's still there. So our first interest is getting that material,
1:03:59
Speaker 15: and the seconds would be taking away their motivation to
1:04:02
Speaker 15: build that material. But that then gets into regime change,
1:04:05
Speaker 15: and I think, you know, we need to see eventually,
1:04:09
Speaker 15: ideally we'd see some sort of anwar Sadat type character
1:04:13
Speaker 15: come to the four in in Iran. Of course, you
1:04:17
Speaker 15: know that was the Egyptian leader who was a radical
1:04:20
Speaker 15: for a long time and then decided after the nineteen
1:04:23
Speaker 15: seventy three war to start to make peace at least
1:04:26
Speaker 15: an accommodation with the between Egypt and Israel. So that
1:04:30
Speaker 15: person is not present there. But as long as there's
1:04:34
Speaker 15: that willingness from that radical ir CG, that's convended. So
1:04:38
Speaker 15: obviously regime change is a longer process in Iran ideally,
1:04:43
Speaker 15: and I think the vast majority of Iranian and the
1:04:45
Speaker 15: Persian people are compatible with the West and modernity. Certainly,
1:04:49
Speaker 15: their diaspora and their immigrant community here in the US
1:04:52
Speaker 15: have been very good Americans, and there's a real potential there.
1:04:55
Speaker 15: But we do have this, you know, between ten to
1:04:58
Speaker 15: twenty percent rump of very hard line Shia Messianic jihadists.
1:05:04
Speaker 15: Of course, not all she Is are like that are
1:05:06
Speaker 15: the ones that are running Iran, So you know, we
1:05:08
Speaker 15: have to see what the options are there. We had
1:05:09
Speaker 15: hoped after the significant protests, when they were up to
1:05:13
Speaker 15: twenty to forty thousand Iranians that were willing to fight
1:05:17
Speaker 15: and be killed by the Iranian regime and the name
1:05:19
Speaker 15: of protest, we had hoped that they're that regime was
1:05:22
Speaker 15: closer to toppling over than it appears to have been now.
1:05:26
Speaker 15: But I think, you know, a regime change is going
1:05:28
Speaker 15: to be more of a long term goal.
1:05:29
Speaker 1: There all right now, Mark Tivotz and his friends are
1:05:33
Speaker 1: at the center for the defensive democracy. I'm pretty I'm
1:05:35
Speaker 1: going to guess you listen to them or read them
1:05:37
Speaker 1: when you can. Ye, they're worried about pick Axe Mountain.
1:05:41
Speaker 1: Have you had any briefing on whether or not we've
1:05:43
Speaker 1: done anything to pick Ac Mountain, which is deeper than Fodor,
1:05:47
Speaker 1: which President Trump did obliterate, but pick Axe Mountain, as
1:05:50
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, we haven't hit it yet.
1:05:52
Speaker 15: Well, I think we have a lot of confidence what
1:05:56
Speaker 15: the Iranians have and what the Iranians talk about. Remember
1:06:00
Speaker 15: this is uh the ability of Israel to to understand
1:06:08
Speaker 15: and know the locations the whereabouts of that regime. You know,
1:06:10
Speaker 15: it's perhaps the most compromised regime in the country. So
1:06:15
Speaker 15: I think we have a lot of confidence by a
1:06:17
Speaker 15: lot of the discussion about the negotiations, and you know
1:06:20
Speaker 15: I always have a lot of you know, my previs
1:06:24
Speaker 15: before the negotiations begin, so you know, I won't get
1:06:28
Speaker 15: into any specifics on Pickaxe Mountain. I would just say
1:06:30
Speaker 15: that I think we have confidence that we have a
1:06:33
Speaker 15: pretty good sense we know what the Ryans think and no,
1:06:35
Speaker 15: all right.
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Speaker 15: I hope we do, uh, And I think you know,
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Speaker 15: to my Republican colleagues, we need to remember that some
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Speaker 15: but he was elected by the medical of the American
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Speaker 15: people to be our commander in chief, and we as
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Speaker 15: Republicans should have confidence in him to use to understand
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Speaker 15: how to use this tool responsibly. And so you know,
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Speaker 15: in our toolkit of our nation security apparatus, we need
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Speaker 15: to make sure that's an available tool. Obviously, the Democrats
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Speaker 15: are playing politics with the issue at the moment, but
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Speaker 15: there still are a lot of a lot.
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Speaker 8: Of dangerous folks out there, you know.
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Speaker 15: I do also serve on the Judiciary Committee in addition
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Speaker 15: to the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and in fact I'm
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Speaker 15: having dinner with Jim Jordan tonight, so we talk a
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Speaker 15: lot about this issue. And Chairman Jordan, who has led
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Speaker 15: some real reforms to make sure that faizas used responsibly,
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Speaker 15: also supports the President's position so you.
1:09:49
Speaker 8: Know, I think that should give confidence to some.
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Speaker 15: Of my my Republican friends that have little hesitsy at
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Speaker 15: the moment to remember who our president is in the
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Speaker 15: situation that we face from his long terrists and others.
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Speaker 1: Well, great the Congressman for me, remember to say, oh
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Speaker 1: enderwear scarlett and gray because he is from the great
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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Now let's switch over to Singapore conference.
1:10:07
Speaker 1: I was fascinated by your conversation with Aaron because it
1:10:10
Speaker 1: made me think we usually think US versus China one
1:10:13
Speaker 1: on one, but it's really the US plus Japan plus
1:10:17
Speaker 1: South Korea plus Singapore plus Taiwan plus the Philippines and
1:10:22
Speaker 1: maybe Indonesia and Malaysia. What did you learn there about
1:10:26
Speaker 1: what China really looks out and sees, because I don't
1:10:28
Speaker 1: think they look out and see America. I think they
1:10:30
Speaker 1: look out and see a bunch of people hostile to
1:10:33
Speaker 1: their adverse attent.
1:10:35
Speaker 15: Well, China certainly wants to have bilateral relations with all
1:10:39
Speaker 15: of those countries outside of the US because then they're
1:10:42
Speaker 15: the dominant player. But as you point out, if America
1:10:46
Speaker 15: is active in the region, we are a Pacific power
1:10:49
Speaker 15: and we need to make it clear to repeatedly to
1:10:51
Speaker 15: the Chinese. And those are other Asian countries that we
1:10:54
Speaker 15: are Pacific power, and we intend to remain a Pacific
1:10:57
Speaker 15: power because when we deal with them collectively, it's much
1:11:01
Speaker 15: more challenging for the Chinese to be the hedgemon or
1:11:04
Speaker 15: the bully. And so, as we talked about on that podcast,
1:11:07
Speaker 15: you know, Asia, while Europe is a lot of land issues,
1:11:10
Speaker 15: Asia is primarily sea lane issues.
1:11:13
Speaker 8: And there are countries like the.
1:11:14
Speaker 15: Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and others that have challenges with China
1:11:19
Speaker 15: in the South China Sea, what land or waterways that
1:11:22
Speaker 15: the Chinese claim to be their own which we would
1:11:25
Speaker 15: like to see to remain open. And of course the
1:11:28
Speaker 15: Chinese would also like to try to push America out
1:11:31
Speaker 15: of that region and what we call the first island chain,
1:11:34
Speaker 15: which would be Japan, Taiwan down in the Philippines. They
1:11:39
Speaker 15: would like to push us back to Guam and Hawaii
1:11:41
Speaker 15: where they think it should be our sphere of influence.
1:11:43
Speaker 15: But those countries are looking to see what America's future
1:11:48
Speaker 15: is and what weed are determined to do is they
1:11:50
Speaker 15: have a lot of questions as we secure the Western
1:11:53
Speaker 15: Hemisphere under President Trump's nash security strategy. Does that mean
1:11:58
Speaker 15: that we are seating to China, and so we wanted
1:12:01
Speaker 15: to make clear that we are not, and it re
1:12:03
Speaker 15: maintains a key area of our interests. But you're right
1:12:05
Speaker 15: that a multi country approach gives us more options versus
1:12:10
Speaker 15: the Chinese. I would say, also, you know, those countries
1:12:12
Speaker 15: really understand that China is really dealing with the Chinese
1:12:15
Speaker 15: Communist Party and what really matters to them is control
1:12:19
Speaker 15: of the system, and they do less than the Chinese
1:12:21
Speaker 15: Commons Party does less well with ambiguity and uncertainty, but
1:12:25
Speaker 15: also honor and face and respect really matter a lot.
1:12:28
Speaker 15: So everybody should get a chance to go to the
1:12:31
Speaker 15: sischangar a load dialogues, the Singapore Defense Forum if they can.
1:12:35
Speaker 8: But you really can learn a lot in a short
1:12:36
Speaker 8: hour of time.
1:12:37
Speaker 1: All right, So I want to close by talking you
1:12:39
Speaker 1: about Bremerton. You're from Washington State, your district doesn't have Bremerton,
1:12:44
Speaker 1: but Brerington is one of the places. It's one of
1:12:46
Speaker 1: the very few places that our carriers can put in
1:12:48
Speaker 1: and out of and can be based out of. The
1:12:52
Speaker 1: new Navy plan that was released has our carrier for
1:12:54
Speaker 1: us going from eleven to nine. Did that catch you
1:12:57
Speaker 1: by surprise, because that's not wow, superpower.
1:13:00
Speaker 15: Acts, Well, it does, you know, there are some you know,
1:13:06
Speaker 15: we need to make sure that we are looking at equipment,
1:13:08
Speaker 15: we're looking at capabilities. And of course what a carrier
1:13:11
Speaker 15: does allows us to project force around the globe, and
1:13:16
Speaker 15: we need to continue to project force around the globe
1:13:18
Speaker 15: to protect sea lanes, protect trade, and make sure that
1:13:21
Speaker 15: our allies know that we're there. And so, you know,
1:13:24
Speaker 15: I wouldn't get to the first issue is the why
1:13:27
Speaker 15: behind the aircraft carriers, and then as technology, autonomous systems
1:13:32
Speaker 15: other types of sea lanes developed, what is the best
1:13:34
Speaker 15: way to develop those capabilities? So I really, first and
1:13:38
Speaker 15: foremost care about the why and the capability more than
1:13:41
Speaker 15: the mechanism. But you're right, Ramerton's an amazing place. Amercraft
1:13:44
Speaker 15: carriers have been extremely important for America's national defense since
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Speaker 15: the early nineteen forties and or continue going to have
1:13:53
Speaker 15: a big role because we have to project force and
1:13:55
Speaker 15: if we don't, those Asian countries will hedge, and what
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Speaker 15: that also means is very likely they'll get new weapons,
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Speaker 15: which makes a whole other conversation of how the world
1:14:03
Speaker 15: gets a lot more dangerous as well too.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's close on politics. Not a lot of Washington
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Speaker 1: State people on this program over its twenty five years,
1:14:11
Speaker 1: soon to be twenty six.
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Speaker 16: That's because it's a blue state except for your part
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Speaker 16: of the state geographically at the state any hope on
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Speaker 16: the horizon there that Washington can avoid going the way
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Speaker 16: of California.
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Speaker 8: Well, we're fighting to make sure.
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Speaker 15: You know, of the eight years I was in the
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Speaker 15: State Senate, I was actually the majority for six of them.
1:14:31
Speaker 15: I beat a Democrat incumbit, and we had a good coalition.
1:14:34
Speaker 15: We got good members that fit their district, and we
1:14:36
Speaker 15: didn't do stupid things. We think we can win a
1:14:40
Speaker 15: great chance of picking up a Republican seat in southwest Washington.
1:14:44
Speaker 8: And even in my own district.
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Speaker 15: You know, Donald Trump won my district, but he won
1:14:49
Speaker 15: my district by eight percent. I won my district by
1:14:51
Speaker 15: twenty one percent. And so I say, in Washington State
1:14:54
Speaker 15: and other states, you've got to play on the other side.
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Speaker 8: Of the fifties.
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Speaker 15: So you have to, I think, speak like a genuine,
1:14:59
Speaker 15: authentic conservative to hold the base. But then you have
1:15:02
Speaker 15: to find some other issues you can campaign on that
1:15:05
Speaker 15: can attract moderates and even some Democrats. So I was
1:15:08
Speaker 15: able to do that in my race, and we need
1:15:10
Speaker 15: to find candidates that have that ability to other races
1:15:13
Speaker 15: because we cannot go the way of California. We can't
1:15:16
Speaker 15: have the left coast to be the communist coast. It's
1:15:19
Speaker 15: too important for the entire country.
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Speaker 1: So thirty second, it's not doomed to be forever blue.
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Speaker 1: It can maybe come back. There used to be Slade Gordon.
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Speaker 1: There used to be a lot of great Republicans on
1:15:30
Speaker 1: the West coast, but they're all gone that you're like
1:15:32
Speaker 1: last one from Marston State. It's not doomed.
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Speaker 8: Well, we're gonna We're gonna rebuild it.
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Speaker 15: I'm not doing Look, I'm a Republican of Washington State,
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Speaker 15: so I'm an optiist by nature. But you know, one
1:15:42
Speaker 15: of the reasons I got Ronald Reagan on the wall
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Speaker 15: behind me is to remember to always try to speak
1:15:47
Speaker 15: in an inspiring and thoughtful way and a channel that
1:15:50
Speaker 15: the best for Americans met to come.
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Speaker 8: I think the best of Washington State is yet to come.
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Speaker 8: We're going to try to make it happen.
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Speaker 1: Congressman mom Garger, keep coming back great to make your
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Speaker 1: acquaintance glad to hear you I'm with Aaron, playing by
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Speaker 1: another person who's interested in national security and foreign affairs.
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Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger. Great to speak with you.