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- 0:12Oh senor sy All things and what things used to Where had all the blue
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- 0:39and what they used to be? No, wait, Dallas, what work
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- 2:07to putting you on the path to writing your book. Hello, Hello,
- 2:16Hello, and welcome to the Crew Podcast. I am the Visionary Queen Angela
- 2:24and welcome to season two. I want to thank you for tuning in and
- 2:30for all of your support throughout season one. We're back them devas up the
- 2:38airways, so thank you for joining us tonight. Share this with someone in
- 2:44your circle. Basic Black after Dark, the all new podcast show with your
- 2:53host, Black Diamond. Everybody, This is Black Diamond from the Crew Network,
- 3:46and you're listening to Basic Black after Dark, the podcast show that meets
- 3:52you where you are and gives you what you ask for. Now. Some
- 3:55of you, some people I've met, told me that they have a story
- 4:00within them. They also said they've been writing things down and they think that
- 4:03they want to write a book. Some of you may not know that I'm
- 4:08an author as well, and I remember the first book I published. It
- 4:12was about fifteen years ago. I thought all I had to do was give
- 4:15it a little thought, write it down, and get it published. And
- 4:19there you go. Boy, was I wrong? Publishing book is no sting
- 4:24poor. It's a lot more detailed than what you may encounter. But I
- 4:30don't want you to think that, oh I can't do it because of what
- 4:32you're saying, Because everybody's journey with it is different. So if you are
- 4:36ready to amplify your gift or an influencer on the rise, then I suggest
- 4:42you get something, get a pen, piece of paper, and start writing
- 4:46down the ingreetings that's going to be told to you tonight. Please welcome my
- 4:50guests, multi award winning best selling author, international speaker, poet, literary
- 4:59coach and ghost writer Doctor Jackie. Hey, Hey everyone, Hey Black Diamond,
- 5:11thank you for having me on tonight. What the blessing is to be
- 5:15with you this evening? Oh my god, it's been a minute. We
- 5:17had a little bit of time to chat, but it's been a minute since
- 5:21we've seen each other and since we've gotten together. But I am so happy
- 5:28that you accepted to come in tonight, And it just couldn't have come at
- 5:31a better time when people are going to be going on vacation so they can
- 5:34start getting that writing down. But doctor Jackie's going to be here tonight to
- 5:39talk to you all about getting into the writing room and letting you know where
- 5:44she's at with it to help you out. So you've been writing for Jack.
- 5:46You've been writing for a while, haven't you. I've been writing since
- 5:49the age of twelve, A long while. Oh my goodness, since the
- 5:56age of twel See, we don't want to go there and tell everybody that,
- 6:00just say it's just been a little bad, just a little bit.
- 6:05We're going to get into a little bit of your story as far as you
- 6:10writing and what you do. But why do you believe some people write well.
- 6:16Some people write because it's therapeutic. Some people write to free themselves.
- 6:24Some people write to free others, inform others. Some people write because they
- 6:29have a story inside them that they want to tell. Some people write because
- 6:33they can't speak well and the only way they can really let you know how
- 6:38they're feeling is through paper and pen. So there's a multitude of reasons why
- 6:43people actually write. Not only that, I just find that for me writing
- 6:48is spiritual as well, because things you can put on that paper you can
- 6:54tell the Lord, or you can tell yourself things that you can't tell them
- 6:59one else, And once it's on that paper, you can put it away.
- 7:03It's not always for you to share what you've written. So there's a
- 7:09lot of reasons why people write. Well, you've given a lot of them
- 7:14there. I know I'm one of those that just wrote something and I hadn't
- 7:18planned on being an author at all. That wasn't even a part of my
- 7:21plan in life. As a matter of fact, I really didn't like.
- 7:26Well, I'm not going to deter anybody from English class, but that wasn't
- 7:30one of my favorite subjects. But I come to look at it now and
- 7:32I'm like, maybe I should have paid attention a little bit more than I
- 7:34wouldn't have been getting what we call writer's block. But I'm gonna get into
- 7:38that too. So if an inspiring writer wants to become a published author,
- 7:43what should they do first besides contacting doctor Jackie. Well, if anyone anyone
- 7:48out there wants to become an author, the first thing that you want to
- 7:51do is decide what kind of story it is you want to tell. And
- 7:57it doesn't necessarily have to be a story either. It can be informational,
- 8:03it could be self help, it can be a cookbook. Even like some
- 8:07people actually I want to say, they pigeonhole themselves into Well, I can't
- 8:13do this, so therefore I must can't write, or I'm not going to
- 8:16be able to actually produce something. But there's so many different forms of writing.
- 8:22It's not just a book. You can be a published author by putting
- 8:26forth a brochure, a blog post. Okay, you can also write just
- 8:33put out little inspirational moments through your social media, through texting people. All
- 8:41of that is a form of writing, an authorship. Now, if you
- 8:45want to become published again, you're really gonna want to think about what is
- 8:50it that you want to tell the world. Yes, I'm saying the world,
- 8:56because whenever you write anything, it's permanent. Want to make sure that
- 9:00anything you're putting forth is going to serve and be available to the world.
- 9:05That's why I'm talking in those terms. And I want people to also expand
- 9:09their horizons past their homies and their you know, their family members and their
- 9:13best friends. Whenever you're writing and you want to become an author, think
- 9:18broad, think why, think you want to reach the masses, and basically
- 9:22really now down what it is you want to say. When I'm doing my
- 9:28writing workshops, one of the things. One of the prompts I asked all
- 9:31of my participants is what is it that you want the reader to say when
- 9:37they finished your book, or when they finished your chapter, when they finished
- 9:43whatever it is you put together. What is it that you want them to
- 9:48say? What is it that you want them to take away? And I
- 9:50pushed them, I don't want to hear oh that was a good read.
- 9:54No no, no, no, yes, it's a good read. But
- 9:58I want to know deeper. What is it that you have wanted them to
- 10:01learn about, either what you went through, how did you start that business,
- 10:07how did you make me do that divorce? How did you raise them
- 10:11six kids? I mean, it's so many that you know. It is
- 10:20permanent. You know, it's like an email when you said it. Once
- 10:24it's sent through, it's there. It's in writing. It's like when you
- 10:26put stuff on social media. It's there, you know, for the world
- 10:30to see. And some people are criticizing, some people won't, some people
- 10:33will follow you, and some people won't. One of the things that I've
- 10:37come across a lot was some people say, oh, she's a writer,
- 10:41and then somebody else says, she's an author. What is the difference between
- 10:43the author and a writer. So for me, it depends that the defining
- 10:48To me, the defining divide is are you published? That's my opinion.
- 10:56To me, an author is someone who was published. But I'm one of
- 11:01those free spirited kind of people. So if you've written things and shared them
- 11:07on social media, I say you're an author. You may not be published,
- 11:11like have an ISBN, got your word copyrighted? Things of that nature.
- 11:16And some people may say to you, oh, that's what I consider
- 11:18published or that's what I consider an author, which is fine, But for
- 11:22me, I'm like, you already have it in you to be an author,
- 11:26you just haven't taken that step to get it published, right. And
- 11:31the writer is just someone who loves to write, someone who loves to be
- 11:35in the written word, who just enjoys journaling. I so appreciate when I
- 11:39get a written note card. I know that's old school, I know it
- 11:43is, but I so appreciate it because I think there's a lot of lost
- 11:48art in the written word too well. So I know when people had said
- 11:54that about me, you or writing or author, I just told them,
- 11:56no, I'm just a storyteller. I just enjoyed telling stories. At what
- 12:01point should a person writing stories, or being an author, or just whatever.
- 12:09At what point in their career, their writing career, should they consider
- 12:11themselves a writer or an author. I would say, if you are constantly
- 12:18writing, whatever it is that you're writing, whether it is at work,
- 12:22whether it is for pleasure, whether it is helping your helping someone else write
- 12:28something, an essay, or things of that nature, you are a writer.
- 12:31I've had I've worked with so many clients who told me, I don't
- 12:35think this is good. I don't really like to write. I don't really
- 12:39like you know, this is not really my strength. I'm better at math.
- 12:43And then when I read what they've written, I'm blown away because that
- 12:46self doubt already has started to creep in that the fact that what they wrote
- 12:52was not pristine or perfect or a plus, so therefore they thought they were
- 12:56not a writer. So I like what Black Died had said a few minutes
- 13:01ago about writing can be storytelling, it can be considered myself from the beginning.
- 13:07Absolutely. I often though that no Maya Angelo is an author, that's
- 13:13the author. That to me, that's the way it was for me.
- 13:15I'm saying I'm nowhere near that nor do I ever think that I would ever
- 13:18get anything close because she was one of the best for me and looking at
- 13:22her and that level. On that caliper I just said, no, I'm
- 13:26just a writer. That's a woman who wrote most of it was poetry,
- 13:31poems or whatever it was. But I guess she could have wrote in her
- 13:35sleep and it would have been something she could have said I but the way
- 13:37she said it, I would have just meant so much. You know,
- 13:43so do some people they write from experience and some people write fantasies. Would
- 13:50would you think experience would be their biggest asset in writing if it's more from
- 13:56experience? Well, yeah, in both sides. Do you think a person's
- 14:01experience Like you had mentioned earlier, some people write from some of the experiences,
- 14:07some of the things that they've gone through, like the divorce or raising
- 14:11kids, and that's the experience, so they can write on that. But
- 14:13then some people may fantasize about some of those kinds of things. So what
- 14:20do you think would be their best asset experience was just a fantasy? Well,
- 14:28I'm going to go with both because I write fiction and nonfiction, and
- 14:35fiction can be fantasy, mystery, romance, love, lust, betrayal.
- 14:41You know, I write fiction, but I also write nonfiction, which is
- 14:46experiences real life. You know, my mind is visually broad and like broad.
- 14:54Like that, I tend to think in both lands. But I always
- 14:58tell people whatever project, whatever your first project is, whether fantasy fiction or
- 15:07nonfiction, it should always be the subject you know the most about. Because
- 15:13if you try to write about something that you don't know about, or you
- 15:16gotta go and get all this information and all this research and call up people
- 15:22and all this other kind of thing, it's gonna become a distraction to you,
- 15:28or it's even gonna become disheartening unless you have a lot of time on
- 15:31your hands. But if you write from the point of view of what do
- 15:35you know the most about, what you have the most information about, that
- 15:41is going to be a much easier task to tackle. And see fiction writers
- 15:46a fantasy writers like myself and Black Diamond. By the way, you know,
- 15:50we visually see the characters. It goes back to the storytelling element.
- 15:56We see the characters. They come into our our world and we visually see
- 16:02them, and most of the time they speak to us and they tell us
- 16:04their stories and they tell us everything. How they look, how they smell,
- 16:08what their history is, or they're a good person a bad person.
- 16:11That's fiction writing or fantasy writing, right. But the other part of the
- 16:18I want to say, the nonfiction writing that does come from your experiences and
- 16:22how much of your experiences do you really want to share? That's why I
- 16:29descern it right, biographies, the biographies, the autobiographies. A lot of
- 16:33people write in those genres. I know my first book was that it was
- 16:37a memoir for me, and it wasn't intended to be published for the public.
- 16:41It was something that I was doing for my children and my grandchildren.
- 16:45And when I got it back, I was like, oh wow, my
- 16:48pictures on there and my name is on the side and on the front or
- 16:52wherever it was at. And I was happy with that. And then somebody
- 16:55called me and told me that, oh, I didn't know you had a
- 16:57book published, And I said, what are you talking about? Because I
- 17:00didn't think it was going in that route, because I wasn't thinking of being
- 17:03an author or a writer. But some people they start writing and then their
- 17:07fear comes over there and they stop. What tips would you have for them?
- 17:11Keep writing? Keep writing, even if you're fearful. The reason why
- 17:17I'm gonna say that is you started it for a reason. You started to
- 17:21write it for a reason. But like I said at the beginning, everything
- 17:26is not to be shared. Sometimes you're writing just to get it out of
- 17:30you. You're like, I have to tell somebody, So I'm gonna tell
- 17:33her to this paper, whether it's a journal, a keyboard, how about
- 17:38a recorder. You can even record your thoughts. With those of you who
- 17:42are like I don't like typing and I don't like writing, you can record
- 17:45your thoughts and get your audio files transcribed. Okay, So there's no excuses
- 17:52if you want to write. But the thing is, don't be afraid,
- 17:55because at the end of the day, you don't have to share it.
- 17:59You could. I worked with clients who had me ghost right for them and
- 18:03put the book in the drawer, And that's because of fear. Like you
- 18:07said, Black Diamond. But I'm not going to force anyone to share it,
- 18:11because you have to own it and be ready for whatever you're going to
- 18:15put forth because you don't know what people. You gotta have thick skin in
- 18:19this author world. Let me tell you, as people say. People say
- 18:23all kinds of things. But as long as you know that this was your
- 18:27divine path to put forth this particular written product, then you're going to go
- 18:33forth with faith. Right and at the end of the day, don't be
- 18:37afraid because again you do not have to share it. It might have been
- 18:41just therapy for you to get it out and then, you know, put
- 18:44it away until such a time to release it. Patrice said, what the
- 18:48devil put it in the drawer, And I'm guilty of that. As a
- 18:51matter of fact, I'm guilty of this right here. I have a book
- 18:55that's hoping to be published this year, but it's been in the back of
- 18:57my drawer for a way because I just it's not that I got stuck.
- 19:03We'll get into that being stuck. But I hope you guys got your pen
- 19:07and paper and everything together and taking some of these nuggets that Jackie is tossing
- 19:11now, it says, ain't that the truth everythick skin, It's right,
- 19:14that's right. Trice is one of my little my sisters here at the podcast,
- 19:18and she's a reviewer, so you guys shoul get in touch with her
- 19:21as well. Hey, Lasanya, one of the things I want to know,
- 19:22do you think people should self publish. Okay, So in the world
- 19:27of I forget what the number is thousands. I'm gonna go with thousands of
- 19:33books being published every day, I'm gonna go with yes. And here's the
- 19:37reason why. And this is true story. I was at an event,
- 19:42and actually it was an event where one an international Publishers Book award. I
- 19:48got to put a little plug in for my fiction drama edy heat it heat
- 19:52it Urban dramedy, Yes, indeed, but I gotta get that in there.
- 19:57So I was at that event and I met some fabulous authors and I'm
- 20:03just gonna make this story really quick for all of you. There was a
- 20:07girl there and she won. She won also, and it was the most
- 20:11gorgeous children's book, one of the most gorgeous children's book I've ever seen by
- 20:17a little girl of color. But the illustrations was wonderful. And I'm like,
- 20:21girl, you self published, like this book looks like it should be
- 20:25at you know, one of the major publisher houses. She said, well,
- 20:27let me tell you about that. She had a friend that went to
- 20:30a major publishing house. Or make a long story short, they signed her,
- 20:34They gave her an advance. That's every author's dream is that a major
- 20:38publishing company will pick them up, give them an advance, take their book,
- 20:44put on New York Times bestseller list, you know, get them in
- 20:47all of these places. But that is not exactly what happened. They gave
- 20:51the advance, they took over the rights of the book for five years,
- 20:57and then they gave it, say three to six months for it to make
- 21:03a profit. At the end of six months, and we're talking about major
- 21:07publishing companies, at the end of six months, it did not make the
- 21:11profit. They deemed successful, and therefore they put the book on the shelf.
- 21:17They put the book on their shelf and moved on to the next hot
- 21:21commodity, and the author could not touch that book for five years because that
- 21:30was the contract that they signed. Sos is is number one. If you
- 21:37don't want to self published, then get yourself a reputable literary agent. Number
- 21:42two. Understand, Jackie, here you go. Understand that the literary agent
- 21:48is not only going to advocate for you, they're the ones that you can
- 21:52you should be able to trust to get you the best deal. That's the
- 21:56that's the pluses. Here's the minus. It takes a long time because the
- 22:03literary agent is one in a bottle of literary agents, and they're all knocking
- 22:10on the same doors as the other literary agents saying, hey, this is
- 22:15the fantastic product. You have to read this, you have to sign this,
- 22:18you have to read this. And that is few and far between.
- 22:23So if you have time, you really believe in your product, you want
- 22:27to get a literary agent to push your product through to the mainstream publishers.
- 22:33And then it's a waiting game. But don't forget what I shared with you.
- 22:37And by the way, at this conference, at this award show,
- 22:41multiple people told me the same story. They had a publisher who gave them
- 22:48an advance and then they locked down the book for three or five years,
- 22:52where you, as the author, cannot do anything with it during that time
- 22:57period. It just sits on their shelf. And then by the time you're
- 23:02ready to do something with it is considered a book that's really out of commission
- 23:07unless you're going to make some major changes in that book, put it in
- 23:11there, coverage different, you're spending more money on it. So that advance
- 23:15that they gave them, that's nothing to them. And you may think,
- 23:18oh, wow, five brand, I can do this with it now and
- 23:22publish and whatnot. But that book that you have now, yes, that
- 23:26five brand, hang on to it, that's hang on to it. Yes,
- 23:32yes, it takes a long time, Yes it does, Jackie.
- 23:34How important is it for a professional adding to it or editing to an author's
- 23:40book development? Now? You know who? You know? Who I am
- 23:44black that And what I mean by that is I want them to know what
- 23:51I know. Yes, I know, baby. That is one of my
- 23:53pet peeves is that a fabulous book did not have a professional edit. And
- 24:02I'm gonna let you know right now, and I'm not trying to offend nobody.
- 24:04Let me put that for first. But Grandmama and them Uncle Jojo,
- 24:11al right, cousin Lucy, don't take their edits for granted, take they
- 24:18take the don't use their edits. Rather, don't tell me that they edited
- 24:22your book. I've been down that route many many times. They mean well,
- 24:29trust me, they mean well, they're fabulous, and you're gonna need
- 24:33all those people in your corner, all them aunts and cousins and relatives.
- 24:37And I've had some English teacher books come my way as well. If this
- 24:45is not their, if this is not their niche thank them and say I
- 24:52love you, and then get someone who really does that type of work.
- 24:57Okay, just speaking little bit of money, just a little bit of money.
- 25:03Yeah, they spend a little bit of money on getting it edited.
- 25:06Because you put that book out, then there has mistakes it because I know
- 25:08somebody in a high position who wrote a book, and I purchased the book.
- 25:15But when I saw that book, it had so many errors. And
- 25:18then it's on the news that this person's book you don't talk about. The
- 25:27book has so many errors in it. So when I got it and I
- 25:30looked at it, I said, oh my god, what was this person
- 25:34thinking. I guess they thinkured because of who they were, that they can
- 25:37get those books out there and just sell them, sell them, sell them.
- 25:41So when that happens, a lot of times people don't take you serious.
- 25:45It's basically in the literary world, you know, because this person want
- 25:49to collaborate with somebody, they would want to hold back because they see that
- 25:53their thought pattern and the way that they write is just not what they would
- 25:57want no matter who they are. That's that's just one of the ways that
- 26:02things crumble. What would you say to new writers who believe they can make
- 26:06a living at it as a writer. Woof, it's possible, but it's
- 26:14gonna be a lot of sacrifice. It's very possible. People are doing it.
- 26:18You know. If you want to make a living off of your book
- 26:22or your product, I say, get a strong marketing team, right,
- 26:29map out your strategy for sales. Figure out how much you need per month
- 26:34to live, not survive, to live. Okay, so that when you
- 26:41just take up those nuggets, when you decide this is gonna be my full
- 26:45time job. Okay, my full time this is all I'm gonna do is
- 26:48be an author and a writer. You know, you gotta make sure you
- 26:52have all of that in place first, a lot of planning and strategizing.
- 26:56And I will say, don't quit your day job and this writing job.
- 27:00Your writing career really takes off where you can see that you can make,
- 27:04you know, a good living out of it, and you're not struggling living
- 27:07from paycheck to paycheck. So I've goten doable. Oh, five thousand dollars,
- 27:15is not it like a lot of room and Ned's mules in the beginning,
- 27:19that's right, Yes, yes, yes, it's it's definitely a definite
- 27:25what if no one connects with an author or the writer outgrows their story,
- 27:27should they change their writing style or genre? So when you say when no
- 27:33one connects with the author, do you mean that the author has put forth
- 27:37something and it's not going anywhere. It's not moving right. That requires some
- 27:44focused groups and real love. Focused groups and real love. But what I
- 27:49mean by that is have one of your good girlfriends, two or three of
- 27:53them read the book and let them tell you what is wrong, why is
- 28:00not connecting? Or if you had a target audience for your book, find
- 28:04two or three in that circle and say, you know what, I really
- 28:07thought this was going to be a hit. I thought it was going to
- 28:11be some whole bunch of copies. Can you read it and tell me what
- 28:14is wrong? And then just be ready again, like I said, that
- 28:17tough skin and that tough love. Just be ready for that feedback and really
- 28:22absorb it. And if you can, and this is where you have to
- 28:26really expand your network, get some people you don't know who don't know you
- 28:32from Adam to read your book. That would be very very telling if you
- 28:37really want to know why it's not connecting, and that should help you shape
- 28:42whatever you're going to do next. I don't want you, though, to
- 28:45get discouraged by that, because, as you all know, everything ain't for
- 28:51everybody, right. It's true, it's true, So everybody says love it.
- 28:56L'atania says that it'll take a lot of sacdvice, and that's sound advice.
- 29:02You know, some people you have to accept criticism, and they're not
- 29:04doing it to be mean. They're just letting you know. You went to
- 29:07them for a reason and you wanted them to be honest. So when they
- 29:11in turn become honest with you, don't figure that, oh, you don't
- 29:15know what you're talking about. You asks or their opinion and they're giving it
- 29:18to you. Imagine if they didn't and you put it out there and you
- 29:22put all of your eggs in that basket, you have some broken eggs.
- 29:26People definitely have some broken eggs, Doctor Jackie. I can talk to you
- 29:30forever, but we're going to take a quick commercial break, and when we
- 29:33can come back, we're going to learn more about your literary coach, Doctor
- 29:37Jackie. Turn off flight a candle, tonight a man mad, Let's take
- 30:18a shower shower together. I was abandoned. You must not and some not
- 30:37wealthy and say, Jay, turn on me. Come girl, don't want
- 30:59to care you? What's so sweet? We're back with doctor Jackie, the
- 31:11literary coach. I've heard of a life coach and many other types of coaches,
- 31:15but what exactly is a literary coach? Yes, yes, yes,
- 31:21So I am the person that is your accountability partner during your writing journey.
- 31:29That's what a literary coach does. I'm the one that sits with you,
- 31:33makes an outline, helps you decide your direction, keeps you on track,
- 31:37do my best to keep you on schedule for whatever it is that you are
- 31:42trying to write. And again, I do want people to understand writing is
- 31:47not just books. It could be books. It could be a book,
- 31:51it could be a brochure, it could be a guide, it could be
- 31:53an informational piece. There's so many things in a literary space that you could
- 32:00be writing. But I'm the one that helps you get to the finish line.
- 32:05That's what literary coach does. But I take it a step further because
- 32:08I do a lot of editing. I do a lot and I have learned.
- 32:13The Lord told me that I'm a holistic editor. That's what he had
- 32:16to teach me that I'm a holistic editor, and what does that mean.
- 32:22Okay, some people have sent me stuff and said, Jace, I only
- 32:27want you to clean up the grammar and sent it back to me. That's
- 32:30all I want you to do. And jac can't do that. I had
- 32:35to learn that I could not do that. It's not in my nature to
- 32:39overlook all of the inconsistencies in a book, a chapter, a page,
- 32:45or phrase. I cannot overlook it. I'm compelled, you know, it's
- 32:50like a I'm drawn to say something about why it's wrong. I cannot just
- 32:55fix a common at a period capitalized as a letter and just ignore all the
- 33:02other inconsistencies, because that is the way that I edit. That is my
- 33:07vision. That's what I see. So they're getting much more than they're getting
- 33:13much more than what they bargained for by spaking with you and sending you their
- 33:16work and tell me your path to becoming a literary coach. Well, this
- 33:22happened several years ago, and I want everyone to know that several years ago,
- 33:28I would not have been on this podcast. I would not have been
- 33:31speaking, I would not have been in any conferences meeting Black Diamond because I
- 33:38was basically still coming out of my trauma and my shell from my youth when
- 33:45I was a closet writer. Okay, and when I finally did break free,
- 33:51that's a whole other podcast and a whole other story. I met two
- 33:55wonderful ladies correct a doctor wherever you are, I love you. And at
- 34:00that time she had a partner, and I managed to muddle through a spiel
- 34:07for my book, and when I got off the stage, she said,
- 34:10girl, you know you need to be getting out here talking about your book
- 34:14and everything that you do. And I'm going to help you. And I'm
- 34:16like, you are. I don't think I'm ever going to be able to
- 34:21like work with people of not even promote myself. And because of her belief
- 34:27in me and her faith in me and her coaching and mentoring, here I
- 34:30am today. Here I am. So, you know, just say,
- 34:34coach, you don't just coach adults. I see that you also coach children,
- 34:39youth. Tell me a little bit about that. Yes, So I
- 34:44work with as you know, I work with Patricia Johnson Harris, who is
- 34:49the founder of Youth Writers Challenge and under Youth Writer's Challenge, which is a
- 34:52multima nonprofit, is youth writers rock. And what I do with the youth
- 34:58is I helped them become publish authors. And it's for grades four through twelve,
- 35:04and I tend to work with the high schoolers primarily on helping them become,
- 35:08like I said, first time authors while they are still in school.
- 35:15And so I just love that the children give me so much life as do
- 35:19my adult clients. I learned so much, and I want to tell you
- 35:22something about how God works. When I was younger, I wanted to be
- 35:28a teacher. That was my first love was to be a teacher, but
- 35:32then I got distracted, and now he has come full circle where I am
- 35:37a literary teacher and a literary coach helping people become published authors. So you
- 35:45work with both. So I'm not going to ask you which one is easy
- 35:49to work with, the adults or the children, because can act like children
- 35:54and then those children because I've seen through the Youth Writering Challenge program, I've
- 36:00seen some remarkable youth coming there with some stories and the things that they've done
- 36:06and the way that you guys work with them, and I understand they just
- 36:08had recently had a graduation, and you guys should be so proud with the
- 36:13way that you work with these children. Why do some people struggle at the
- 36:19end, like when they're just about finished but they just can't finish, like
- 36:22a cliffhanger and they just can't get over that hump. Why do you think
- 36:27people struggle with that? Sometimes it is fear because they know they're about to
- 36:30be finished, which means they're about to publish this book. And then are
- 36:35they ready? Are they mentally ready to finish and let the world see what
- 36:40they've written? As you know, Black Diamond, a lot of people's stories,
- 36:46people don't know their true story. They know some, but they don't
- 36:52know the real dale. But the Raildale is in that book, and they
- 36:58have to and they and they may get stuck with actually finishing it because they
- 37:04know that at that point they're about the birth the baby and they may just
- 37:07not want to birth it. And I see writer his block in the comments,
- 37:10but I know that you're gonna ask me about writers block, and I'll
- 37:15just segue on into into writer's block if that's okay. And sometimes it is
- 37:20that they are definitely literarily know that's a word doll stuck, so they can't
- 37:27get past where they're stuck at But again that's where a literary coach comes in
- 37:32as far as how to finish up something, wrap it up, segue,
- 37:37move forward, and writers. Block is real. It is real. It
- 37:40happens to me as well. And the ways that I get over right is
- 37:45block is gonna sound really crazy, but I watch a lot of poor,
- 37:50poorly scripted movies because I sit there and I say, dang, I know
- 37:54I put a vote the script better than this. What in the world?
- 37:58And then I start to often to the screen about how the ending should have
- 38:01been. You know, it should have went this way, it should have
- 38:05went like that, and how did y'all do this kind of this and that?
- 38:07But that sparks my mind. It gets my mind to start thinking in
- 38:13a creative in a creative space. The other way to unblock yourself is,
- 38:17let's say you're stuck in a particular area, especially for those of you doing
- 38:22self help, call a best friend that was around you during that era or
- 38:25whatever you're writing about and say, hey, do you remember when we was
- 38:30when I was going through this, this and this? And they will probably
- 38:34say I sure do. And then you ask them what do you remember about
- 38:37that that time period? And I bet they'll say something to you, to
- 38:42you you totally forgot, and you'll be like, oh, you know what,
- 38:45I forgot all about that that happened, you know. So there's a
- 38:49lot of ways to become unstuck with writer's block. And then there's the obvious
- 38:55one. Put it to them. Just put it down for a moment,
- 39:00put it down, give it a break, you know, give it a
- 39:04break. And when you go back a week later. Trust me on this,
- 39:09a week later, maybe two weeks, read it from the beginning.
- 39:16Do not read it from the part you were stuck at. Go to the
- 39:22very beginning and read it all the way through. And a lot of times
- 39:28that will also draw your memory on what you else you need to say.
- 39:32And lastly, sometimes and I learned this from my editor, sometimes the book
- 39:38is ready to end, but we're not ready for it to end. Put
- 39:45an axflammation point on it. It's done. So it's really from writer's block
- 39:52so many times, and right now in the middle of that writer's block.
- 39:57And what I found was better for me is I changed my environ I left
- 40:00from this state that I'm in to b movies. Lol. I left from
- 40:06this state that I'm in and I went to see my father and while I
- 40:10was there, you know, I had some of my material with me.
- 40:13I said, you know, I'll have my laptop with me whatnot. And
- 40:15I sat on his balcony and I was back home, and I just felt
- 40:19so comfortable. And you know, you in New York and you're overlooking New
- 40:22York City. Anything and everything happens in New York. But it just gave
- 40:27me that and I was just so comfortable. I was back at home.
- 40:30So I was in that writer's headspace at that point in time. It wasn't
- 40:36the children or work or anything. So I would suggest change your environment as
- 40:40well, because that could push you to maybe there's something within that environment that
- 40:46may help out your story. That you'll see things different and you'll be looking
- 40:50at it through a different lens. What to you are the most important elements
- 40:55of good writing? I just did this children's character development mhm okay, storyline
- 41:09having seen to read mm hmmkay. Take no drama mm hmm, humor,
- 41:20a protagonist, love, lost, lies and romance, a laugh that's her
- 41:30little all right? There? With that said, are there times when you
- 41:35review a person's writing their books or novels and believe they should have chosen another
- 41:38profession. Hmm. That's a good question. That mm hmm, like they
- 41:46shouldn't have written this book, or maybe they just shouldn't be a writer period.
- 41:52Like what the person is thinking a look at this, grandma, look
- 41:58at just the whole kitten. That is a graz segue to ghostwriting, because
- 42:06if I do come across that and the person is not, I want to
- 42:10say they don't have it in them to finish the book the way it needs
- 42:15to be done. That's where a ghostwriter comes in. Because you may have
- 42:20an excellent idea, an excellent storyline, riveting and powerful, but you're just
- 42:27not able to string it together in a reasonable way and it's and it's really
- 42:34just stressing you out. That's where you get a ghostwriter because they'll write the
- 42:40whole thing for you and you put your name right on it. But you
- 42:45think that many of these many of these authors that are coming out with books
- 42:50every three and four months, you think that they're writing it. I highly
- 42:54doubt it. They may write a couple of them, they may review it,
- 42:58but I can almost guarantee that they have a ghost writer or ghost writers
- 43:06depending on something, to take that on their staff. That's right. So
- 43:10I as long as they have a good, good storyline and they know where
- 43:15they want to go on the journey, I'm there to help them. They
- 43:19just may need a ghost writer who can do it for them. Please share
- 43:23with our listeners how you use your platform as a speaker, an international speaker
- 43:30to transform and empower women. So I am always looking for opportunities to speak
- 43:37about how you can leave your past in the past in order to move forward.
- 43:45That is my message, like sometimes like myself. If you heard me
- 43:50earlier, I told you I would never have been on the stage before.
- 43:52Okay, I was stuck in my own head, living in someone else's mental
- 43:58prison because of something they said. And so many of us are stuck in
- 44:02someone else's world. Mm hm. We riding on someone else's train, Okay,
- 44:09we are. We are a passenger instead of a driver. So when
- 44:15I'm to people, so when I talk, you know, please do because
- 44:22the more we talk about it, the more we let people know. People
- 44:25need to understand. Mostly I'm mostly minister to women, but men as well.
- 44:30Is that I know we've heard this before. You are not your past,
- 44:35right, But I know it's easier said than done because it happened to
- 44:38me really, so my when I talk to people, when I speak with
- 44:43people, depending on who the audience is, I really want people to understand
- 44:46that you have a gift you have. Everyone has a gift and a talent.
- 44:52Everyone has a purpose in life. And because of what someone said to
- 44:57you last year, last week, last month, well ten years ago,
- 45:01you have been stunted. Your growth has stopped and I've wanted to meet that
- 45:07says you know. No, that was someone else's view, but that was
- 45:13not your divine destiny. Wow. You shared so much with us tonight on
- 45:20how they should write, how they can come into it, what to look
- 45:22for. What is your communication style? My communication style? Oh, I'm
- 45:29just open and free and I like to have fun. You know that I
- 45:34like to have fun. I like to be open and free and with all
- 45:38of my clients will tell you that I'm patient. I have a lot of
- 45:44patients, and you need a lot of patients as a literary coach, but
- 45:47you also need to have that open communication. And sometimes it's challenging because everyone
- 45:53is in a different place in space with it. But I try to meet
- 45:59people where they are and I here's the other thing about me as far as
- 46:04communication. I do have a little contract that I get into it my clients,
- 46:08but it's it's more to protect the clients than it is me. Right.
- 46:14I mean, if I said we're going to be writing this book for
- 46:15six months, ninety percent of time, it takes us a year and a
- 46:21half. And that's okay because my goal, my main goal is to make
- 46:25sure that number one, you have a quality product. Number two, you're
- 46:30happy with it. Number three we're not rushed. Good good, good tips.
- 46:36What would you suggest an individual who's writing and they finished their book and
- 46:40everything as far as a book cover, would you suggest that they did their
- 46:45own book cover because some people say, no, I want to do this,
- 46:47or would you suggest they just go to a creative a writer, a
- 46:53creative person that doesn't designer or anything like that. Just they do that,
- 47:00or just do their own If you have the money, I would have a
- 47:05graphic designer do your cover. Lately, I have been seeing cookie cutter covers.
- 47:13So I have been seeing this one woman standing, well I'm still standing,
- 47:19or I've made it through, or I'm victorious it's the same graphic or
- 47:30or you know, both hands up, or it's basically what I'm trying to
- 47:36say, is basically the same type of graphic. It's no. I want
- 47:40to say, creative energy put into it, and I'm not knocking it.
- 47:45Don't hear that. I'm just saying I am more towards Don't you want something
- 47:50unique and that is really authentically you versus something that you can put get off
- 47:54of Shutterstock or another one of these graphic graphic image places. So and it's
- 48:01nothing to It's right, there's nothing wrong with it. Oh, when you
- 48:06go to shut the stock it, I don't know if anyone notices if anyone
- 48:08has visited there. It'll tell you how many times a particular graphic has been
- 48:14downloaded. It'll say this graphic has been used thirty seven thousand times. What
- 48:20I don't want that? And they also tell you what the fee is if
- 48:22you want to purchase certain things. The Tanya asks is their fIF for ghostwriting?
- 48:27Is the FIFA ghostwriting expensive? Absolutely? Because what I do or other
- 48:32ghostwriters do, they are immersing themselves into your life. Because when the book
- 48:37comes out, it should sound like you, It should represent you. It
- 48:43shouldn't sound like me. And the only way I'm gonna understand your way that
- 48:47you speak would be for me to do a lot of interview sessions, a
- 48:52lot of trial and ever, a lot of me sending you stuff for you
- 48:55to review, for you to say, oh, yeah, that sounds like
- 48:58me, and you may come back and say, oh no, J say
- 49:00I would never say this, but I would say this. So ghost writing
- 49:05is still a partnership. It is a partnership, and it's time consuming because
- 49:08the ghost writer, if they're excellent at what they do, they're spending a
- 49:13lot of time with you. They're spending a lot of interview time. They're
- 49:16asking you certain questions, and at the same time they're listening to the way
- 49:22that you talk and the way that you say certain things and certain phrases.
- 49:25So that's why it's quite expensive. I don't mind telling the audience my ghost
- 49:30writing. If he starts at thirty five hundred, I don't mind. I
- 49:34know it's competitive in the marketplace because I know a lot of people that started
- 49:38seven K for ghostwriting, So but it's probably out there accent. You have
- 49:46a payment plan for that or all of the units. I have payment plans
- 49:52for all of my payments. I have all of my services. I have
- 49:57payment plans absolutely, But yes, thirty five hundred is starting and that depends
- 50:02on the page count. So so you know it's important to yes, not
- 50:08do literary workshops for anthologies. I use I do literary workshops for aspiring authors,
- 50:15and I also do advanced workshops too for those who need a little bit
- 50:21more like like, for example, a workshop just on character development, character
- 50:25and scene development and how do you do that? And all of my workshops
- 50:30are interactive, it's not just me talking. You will do some work,
- 50:34you will do some writing. You will because you have to pick up on
- 50:38the writing style to know correct where you need to come in at, because
- 50:43you can't just have them and I know, you won't just have them sitting
- 50:45in there, you know and just taking their money and saying yeah that's good,
- 50:50Yeah, that's good, and then they go out there and put out
- 50:51something that's a mess. So yeah, I definitely, I definitely get that.
- 50:55How could our viewers get in touch with you? Connect with you?
- 51:00Absolutely? So you can visit my website ww Dot Blossom Litservices dot com.
- 51:10All one word. I don't know if you can see it, Blossom Literary
- 51:14Services, but it's www. Dot Blossom lit Services dot com that talks about
- 51:21all of my literary services that I provide. You can also visit JC hyphen
- 51:29Gardner dot com and then you can email me. Yes, send me your
- 51:35email JC at Blossom Litservices dot com. So easy, yes, yes,
- 51:42and you can contact You can contact Black Diamond two. If you didn't catch
- 51:46anything, We'll be happy to send you my way and I would love to
- 51:52connect. I also do a free introductory coaching session if anyone is interested in
- 51:58and exploring their their literary dreams. So if you want to amplify your superpower
- 52:04and achieve your literary dreams, go to www. Dot Blossom lit lit Services
- 52:12dot com. Today's interview was questioned based about write and worthy and if you
- 52:19want to become a writer that writer one with the motivation to make a career
- 52:22as an author, consider doctor Jackie. Jackie, thank you so much for
- 52:27dropping all these little nuggets on everybody. I hope that they've been catching them,
- 52:31writing them down, recording them. Pick up the email address contact me
- 52:37if you need to get her information, because doctor Jackie is the true deal.
- 52:43Thank you so much for being a part of tonight's show. Now,
- 52:45I'm usually on Fridays, but I have a bonus show Tuesday, April to
- 52:51twenty four join me for Autism Awareness Month. We are talking with Joe Linderman
- 52:58a special as you can you Know After eighth After Dark, a mercy pursing
- 53:10me. All things ain't what things do? Stupid enough? Where did all
- 53:20the blue sky that's blot boys and then re blow