Latest / Chucks Cantina / Episode 161: Baseball, Mental Health, and The Theatre.
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- 0:07This is Chuck's Cantina podcast where anything and everything is up for discussion, and
- 0:15now here's your barman, Chuck O'Donnell. But can you just talk for like
- 0:21recent four or five seconds of the good I can talk. I'm hoping that
- 0:25it's going to be okay because I have one window open and it is the
- 0:30Bronx. Well, not anything that as it adds to the characters. Yeah,
- 0:36not just that's you know, it's true because it's like it's it's a
- 0:39warm day here and like spring is it's actually quite it's been like unseasonably cold,
- 0:45but it's but it's warm. And like the here in the Bronx when
- 0:49it's warm, the dirt bikes and the race cars and the music that you
- 0:57don't want to hear comes out. So it's really loud and I'm noxious here
- 1:02on warm bas So Yeah, it is character. Yeah, so we can
- 1:10just we can just get into it. I don't I mean, as some
- 1:14of my listeners know, I don't really do crazy intros. I just sometimes
- 1:17just go right into it. I'll just get the basics out of the way.
- 1:21Chuck's Cantina Fear Department Hostel the heck won't call me Chuck thinks you joined
- 1:23us today for em was one sixty one. As always, you can find
- 1:27us at Chuck's canteen your socials. Chucks can't even jail dot com. Uh
- 1:32let me said the proper formalities here. Uh my guest today. I've been
- 1:37talking about this for a couple of weeks now. We uh we have met.
- 1:41We exchanged couple messages over on pod match. I've got them a shout
- 1:44out. They've helped me with other guests in the past and stuff like that.
- 1:47Uh my guest today and again, if I butcher anything a million,
- 1:51please cut me off. But you but you're away. Perfect Amelias, as
- 1:57she mentioned, she's from the Bronx. She is a actor and teaching artists
- 2:00based out of the Bronx. She is on here today. We're gonna have
- 2:04a little fun here, talk about some you know, theater stuff and anything
- 2:07else that comes to mind. You know, pretty much as the show Aways
- 2:08goes, we just throw spaghetti at the wall. Whatever hits hits. But
- 2:13I want to get the main thing on, not the out of way.
- 2:15I want to discuss the main thing too, is while you're on the podcast
- 2:17today. She currently is in the process of getting ready to perform a show
- 2:27that she is producing as well as acting in a one woman show. Literally,
- 2:31that's what you wrote called all that all she cares about is the Yankees
- 2:37and pronounce if I'm incorrect, please you know if I'm in correct here,
- 2:40please correct me. Was written by john Ford Noonan in the nineteen eighties.
- 2:46And your show is coming up at sometime in May at the Andrew Friedman Theater
- 2:52or Andrew Freeman Home on Grand Concourse in the Bronx near Yankee Stadium, which
- 2:57is a little a little poetic there. So yeah, so uh, really
- 3:02quick before we get into you know what you're you know, curly working on
- 3:06stuff like that. Are you drinking anything today? I yes, So I
- 3:09have a a grapefruit seltzer with a splash of grapefruit juice and a splash of
- 3:15lemonade. All right, well, I mean it's pretty fade. Ye,
- 3:19Yeah, I'm going crazy. I am going crazy. I wouldn't say you
- 3:24go crazier. You're in the Bronx, You're I mean, I was gonna
- 3:27ask you, like what you got dirt bike sults? I mean, I
- 3:29can I'm surprised you can actually even have dirt bikes or race cars outside those
- 3:32roads. What you guys have, you can't, but they do. It
- 3:38is New York, right, yep, yep, No, you're not supposed
- 3:40to. There's no you're not supposed to. And we actually my husband has
- 3:46the Lieutenant on like speed dial because we don't. Because so we live in
- 3:52like a very residential neighborhood sort of out by the water, and there's a
- 3:57lot of there's a there's a lot of roads that are not that which of
- 4:00course you don't think of in the Bronx. But man, they're not that
- 4:02busy. So no, they'll do donuts in the road for for like hours.
- 4:09Yeah no, and it's i mean, everybody likes to have fun.
- 4:12Yeah, but there's also a lot of kids in the neighborhood, right you
- 4:15know, it's it's it's unsafe and it's not fun to listen to. So
- 4:18yeah, it's crazy. No, they're not supposed to do those things.
- 4:21Surprised. I'm surprised they could. I mean for a dirt bike, yes,
- 4:25but I'm surprised that even cars could do donuts on those Yeah. No,
- 4:29there we have we have big ride roads too, just like it's yeah,
- 4:32yeah, this, I mean like a lot of the Bronx is you
- 4:35know, pretty pretty residential, not built up like Manhattan. Okay, yeah,
- 4:42it's not. It's a little it's not. Yeah. Although I say
- 4:46these things like I'm i've been to I've never been to New York. It's
- 4:47actually one of my dream destinations to go to. And I know, we
- 4:51I know, I didn't discuss this online. I am from like the Chicago
- 4:56area, and I can't tell you that even on those residential roads, even
- 5:01on those downtown roads, they are not whiting up for donuts. But yet
- 5:05kind of like you, people will find a way to do them. Oftentimes
- 5:09it ends up with them possibly dating someone's car and then they just you know,
- 5:13drive off into the sunset. But that is so yeah, perfect.
- 5:18I want to get back to the main focus here. So, as I
- 5:20mentioned, you are curently in the process that you're ready to you know,
- 5:25finally, you know, finally you know where you're getting there, finally almost
- 5:28there, you know, finally time to open the current if you will,
- 5:30for this performance that you're producing, and you're gonna be acting for the one
- 5:34woman show. For all she cares about is the Yankees were like, I
- 5:39want make sure to give your other colleagues are involved with this some you know,
- 5:43some praise heers. So this will be directed by and get embe correct
- 5:46me here. Your director is Jonathan Lidman, also New York Native works actually
- 5:50works for Major League Baseball. Is a member of the Actors Studio Playwright Director's
- 5:56Unit. And then your co producer is Tatiana kat who was actually from the
- 6:00Soviet Union and was class or to me, trained in classical ballet and received
- 6:05and in history and archaeology. Wow. So yeah, she's amazing. She
- 6:11is amazing. Yeah, they both are. They both are, all right,
- 6:14So I just got to ask. So, I mean, obviously you
- 6:15know, and and as always, like I said on the Soul Sols or
- 6:17everything like that, I'll make sure to post all of your information everything too,
- 6:19so people can go on checking your stuff out also find more information about
- 6:23your show. Cut up. But what was the uh the inspiration? Because
- 6:27I mean again, I'm not I'm not an actor myself, not yet.
- 6:31I'm actually looking to get into voice acting discuss here on the podcast a couple
- 6:35of times. But I did study film and some film, not just not
- 6:41just film in general film history, bilto the business of film at school and
- 6:46based on some just conversations I've had with network and stuff like that. You
- 6:49know, acting is one thing, it's obviously a very important, very you
- 6:55know, hard thing to do, but I know that producing and game behind
- 6:58essentially being the creative force find something like that takes a lot of like a
- 7:02guts I fuel so ont of like what drove you to not only yeah,
- 7:05in this performance, but also essentially be the forefront head of it. Yeah.
- 7:10Yeah, it's it's a lot. It's it's it is a lot.
- 7:13It takes up so much of my brain and it's kind of it's it's kind
- 7:17of crazy. It really is. It's crazy. It's ridiculous. It was
- 7:20it was just a stupid idea. But that's you know, that's what we
- 7:26do. That's what us, weird, crazy artists, dreamers we do.
- 7:30Yeah. So I was I was auditioning for this theater company actually up in
- 7:35peak skilled and I think about twenty seventeen, and the man who was in
- 7:42charge of the company when he asked me to come back to the callbacks,
- 7:45asked me to find a monologue that spoke to my soul and made me fall
- 7:49hot on my face. And he said, I don't care if it's your
- 7:55type. I don't care if you play an animal, a kid, a
- 7:57man, a woman, a dog, doesn't matter to me. Just go
- 8:01find something that you love. Which is a very strange thing for an actor
- 8:05to hear, because we're constantly being sort of staring, like we're constantly being
- 8:11tight, and we're constantly be sort of typing ourselves, even though we go
- 8:15into it knowing that that's not the only thing we can do. But it's
- 8:20just you. You just sort of spend so long kind of like trying to
- 8:24get people to look at you in a way so that you can get a
- 8:26job, and then to be told to like go out and find anything you
- 8:31want to work on is sort of was amazing. So I went and I
- 8:35you know, we have a we have the Drama Bookshop here in New York,
- 8:41which Lin Manuel has saved since the pandemic. But it's this just one
- 8:45little bookshop that actors go to to sort of find their next scene or find
- 8:48a play. Like when you're in acting school, you go with your scene
- 8:52partner and you just like they have a cafe and you sit there and you
- 8:56just like read all you know, read all the plays so you don't have
- 8:58to buy every single one, okay, and it's kind of a magic play.
- 9:01So I went and I sat down, and I found a monologue book.
- 9:03I found a monologue from this play, and I instantly really liked it.
- 9:09In the monologue, it talks about her being stuck in her apartment for
- 9:13forty three days, unable to leave. It doesn't say why, and this
- 9:16was before COVID, so it was sort of a It wasn't something that we'd
- 9:22all experienced being stuck in our apartment at that point when I was when I
- 9:26was looking at the monologue, but I really just fell in love with the
- 9:30monologue. And I think at the time what I loved about it was this
- 9:33idea of this woman who is sort of on the outside seems like she's successful.
- 9:39She was a a basketball champion in high school, moved to New York
- 9:43right out of high school. She clearly has friends who loved her, She
- 9:46has a boyfriend who loves her. She clearly is like a neighborhood fixture.
- 9:52It takes place in the West Village, and it sort of talks about like,
- 9:56why would this seemingly attractive thirty nine year old woman just all of a
- 10:00sudden not being you know, just completely malfunction. And I related to that
- 10:07idea because I think a lot in my life people have told me like,
- 10:09well, what, what's what's wrong? You should be happy, you're beautiful,
- 10:13like there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with you, you know what I
- 10:18mean? Right, Like, growing up I got that a lot, and
- 10:20as an actor, I got that a lot. The classic, the classic
- 10:22case of everyone thinks your life is perfect being outside viewer, but they don't
- 10:26really know what's going on in between the lights. Yeah, I totally yeah,
- 10:31yeah, totally totally. And this I mean, I'm you know,
- 10:33growing up, I think it was you know, things were. Things have
- 10:35changed in some ways, but I think in some ways things are made so
- 10:39much worse by social media. But but but you know that sort of idea
- 10:43of like you know, why, you know, why don't you You'd be
- 10:46so much more pretty if you just smile, the kind of thing that like
- 10:48men said to me when I was wait, you're saying yeah, which like
- 10:50you know now now, I would love it if somebody would say that to
- 10:54me. Yeah, like I would really have some great words, you know,
- 10:58to say back to them. But no long times that to me anymore.
- 11:01But but no, I just I really related to that idea of just
- 11:05kind of, you know, this seemingly perfectly, well, you know this
- 11:09woman who you know, seems like she has everything going for her and yet
- 11:11she's falling apart. And I just I just liked that idea, and I
- 11:16so I auditioned with it, and I took it to my acting class and
- 11:20one of my longtime acting teachers, who I've had since I was seventeen,
- 11:22he just said, well, you should do the whole show. And I
- 11:28was like what, I was like, I think if Jeffrey says I can
- 11:33do the whole show, that means I can do the whole show. And
- 11:35then I was like, oh, crap, if I can do the whole
- 11:37show, it means I should probably do the whole show. So it was
- 11:41like this I sort of just felt like, oh crap, I have to
- 11:43do this now, Like it just sort of felt like something like it was
- 11:48just something I should do. And that was a while ago COVID happened.
- 11:52And I'm not going to say that I had extra time, because I definitely
- 11:56didn't. It was it was insane in our home. My daughter had remote
- 12:00kindergarten. I had a Oh, it was so crazy. Her teachers were
- 12:05amazing though she like learned to read completely on zoom at you know, at
- 12:09five years old. I don't know how they did that. I will forever
- 12:11be grateful for them. But at nine month old, my husband's a public
- 12:15school teacher here he was on Zoom and I was actually working for NOOM as
- 12:18a health coach remotely, so pandemic was crazy for us. So I didn't
- 12:24necessarily have extra time, but I think I had. I don't know.
- 12:30I was able to sort of think about the show a little bit, and
- 12:31I put out an ad in playbill for a director, and I got such
- 12:35amazing responses back. It was really hard for me to choose Jonathan Litman,
- 12:41who is my director. Really was just a no brainer. And I asked
- 12:46Tatiana, who I've known for a long time. We were in a much
- 12:50ado about nothing together in I think twenty eleven. I asked her. I
- 12:56asked her just to help me. She's an actress and a dancer, she's
- 13:00a teacher, she's a scientist, like she's just this amazing person, and
- 13:03I you know, she really is. She's amazing. She's just amazing.
- 13:09She's a magician. Pretty much. She could probably beat you in a Muay
- 13:13Thai fight. She will, oh, no doubt, Oh no, for
- 13:18sure. But I was like, I don't there's no role, Like it's
- 13:22not acting, it's not dancing, but like I just want help and I
- 13:24trust you, and she was like, I'm there, I'm gonna do it.
- 13:28Awesome, so she read it, she fell in love with the show,
- 13:30and Jonathan was kind of He was sort of a no brainer because he's
- 13:33incredibly talented, and just the fact that he wanted to work with us in
- 13:37the first place was kind of amazing to me. And then this extra gigantic
- 13:41bonus that he's he's a baseball player and he works for a major League baseball
- 13:46and it was just because I like baseball. I am a Yankees fan,
- 13:50but I'm not knowledgeable about the sport. I played soccer. I didn't never
- 13:54play play softball, so it just made And my husband is a huge Yankees
- 13:58fan, and actually he helps in some ways, but he's also too busy,
- 14:05so I was like, it would be really awesome to just you know,
- 14:09obviously, I mean, Jonathan just he made sense. And so once
- 14:13once I hired Jonathan and and got Tatian on board, it was sort of
- 14:16just a matter of of you know, the train was like on the tracks
- 14:20and just sort of watching it go. We did a production of the show
- 14:22in Maine in twenty twenty two because I grew up in Maine, because my
- 14:26husband's a teacher. We're really fortunate to be able to live with my parents
- 14:30every summer, so we kind of like summer in Maine on the on the
- 14:33cheap. Is there a better way to say that's hey, i've seen on
- 14:37your playing At times during the pandemic, my wife and I very thankful.
- 14:41We moved in with up my in laws for a couple of years, and
- 14:45you know what, hey it again. Don't knock again the whole you know
- 14:50the expression don't not until you try it, Like, yeah, yeah,
- 14:52don't get me wrong where there. Sometimes I'm like why did I do this?
- 14:56Why did I do this? Absolutely? And there's other times like,
- 14:58hey, no, it's actually not bad. And then you're like like Charles,
- 15:01you have to complain about you're not even you're in the basement. Yeah,
- 15:07So we actually we did. We came like we always did, like
- 15:09a week in the summer in main but then for COVID we came like we're
- 15:13there May through August, right, and then we were like, well,
- 15:15we could do this, but we were in their house. And then we
- 15:18were like, well, we could do this, but maybe we should adjust
- 15:20it a little bit because my parents have a garage with an apartment above,
- 15:24and my mom had her office there she's a psychologist. But in the summer
- 15:28she converted it so we actually have our own little like studio apartment above the
- 15:31garage. So it's really so amazing. Yeah, so there is no it's
- 15:35not even a basement, it's a studio apartment. But yeah, So anyway,
- 15:39we did the show in Maine because we had like a theater and we
- 15:43had some help there, and then and then and now it's coming to the
- 15:48Bronx in in May in a couple of weeks May sixteenth, and that sort
- 15:50of was up to the grant cycle. And we ultimately want to end up
- 15:56at Paradise Factory Theater on East fourth Street in New York City because that's actually
- 16:00run by the playwright's brother who is still alive. The playwright is not.
- 16:04So yeah, so that's kind of the long version of the story. Nothing
- 16:11wrong with it. So and then I just got to ask, so,
- 16:15like when when you did it or if here's not like when you did it
- 16:19in May, Like what was the like the first go around, Like what
- 16:23was the reception, like overall like view or something like that, because like
- 16:26obviously because you know it's I mean, it's like this, It's like,
- 16:29I'm again, I'm not from New York. I've never been to New York.
- 16:32I do know people from New York, and I can tell you right
- 16:34now when it comes to anything Yankees, if there's like if you yeah,
- 16:37if you say like one slight thing, it's like you spit like in their
- 16:41mother's food or something or something. It's just like like I like, I'm
- 16:44just like, hey, I'm just I just had a I just had an
- 16:47opinion, like no need to you know. But again, especially with the
- 16:51industry you're in it, like what you're doing, there's gonna be opinions and
- 16:52stuff like That's like what was the overall reception for the first Uh yeah,
- 16:56I mean we were very aware of like we're going into Red Sox territory.
- 17:00You think about that, it's gonna go over, you know, and that's
- 17:06that's probably the what what a way to start off, Like let's let's let's
- 17:10go right to the lines. Then if we can survive. And yeah,
- 17:12it's not. It wasn't only Red Sox carry so like my my parents live
- 17:15in down East Maine, which is sort of near bar Harbor and also near
- 17:19dear Isle, which is an island, a small island, beautiful place,
- 17:22sort of like an artist hub, but also very quiet like in the winter,
- 17:26but also it's known for lobstering, so and it's it's really it's a
- 17:32little bit of a journey, like it's you have to go over a causeway
- 17:36in a bridge. So it's like not just Red Sox territory. It's like
- 17:41lopster men, fishermen, like die hard Red Sox, you know, like
- 17:49yeah, it's yeah, it's it's definitely you know, it's not like I
- 17:52don't know, like Connecticut is like probably a little bit of the fence.
- 17:55This dare Isle main. Uh. I think you're almost you're almost afraid to
- 18:02wear blue because yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But then it's interesting because
- 18:07there's also a big summer population and and there's a lot of you know,
- 18:10there's a lot of New Yorkers there in the summer, so there are Yankees
- 18:14fans, but then there's also like a summer you know, there's also like
- 18:17a summer person thing versus like a year round person thing. So we kind
- 18:22of like now that people, i mean people know me and like now people
- 18:25kind of know my husband because like we're sort of like we're sort of accepted
- 18:27because we were like not really summer people. We're like half summer people because
- 18:33we're like sort of from there. So yeah, it's a very interesting but
- 18:37yeah, so there it was. We it was a huge, beautiful theater
- 18:41that is attached to a high school, okay, and we knew going in
- 18:45that we would not sell very many tickets, which was because we sort of
- 18:49did it last minute, and that was you know, that was okay.
- 18:52We really just wanted to get it up on its feet and get some reception,
- 18:55some kind of feedback from the audience, and the feedback was good.
- 18:59I mean, I think although I mean, there is a lot of Yankee
- 19:03stuff in the show, like there's no doubt about it, it's constant Yankee
- 19:06stuff, but it's not it's not really about that at the same time.
- 19:11So I think in a way, like people kind of luckily, the universality
- 19:15of the rest of the show I think overshadows the Yankees. After a while,
- 19:22and we got some good feedback. I mean, some of it was
- 19:26really one One audience member wrote an email to us and said that he,
- 19:32you know, he really enjoyed it, but it was also very difficult for
- 19:36him to watch in some ways because he had a son dealing with some mental
- 19:38illness and he felt that it was I mean difficult, I guess in a
- 19:45good way. Like for an actor, that's a good thing to hear because
- 19:48it means I'm doing my job. But people, I mean people liked it,
- 19:52I think. I mean, I didn't hear the bad feedback. If
- 19:55there was bad feedback, let me put it that way. Yeah, more
- 20:00people. Yeah, well that's good because like I'm saying, like I was
- 20:02gonna say too, because like that they want to talk about Like in your
- 20:04the message when you reached out to the to me, I'm trying, I
- 20:08said, we're like a network. We're not. It's just a one man
- 20:11show. When you reached out, you had mentioned like the themes of like
- 20:15you know, like what you know, what the what your performance upcoming was?
- 20:19Like the first thing I call like you geve, you know, you
- 20:22said like you know, relationships, baseball. But the thing that come I
- 20:25write away was mental you know, mental health, and that is something that
- 20:27like not even just on the podcast, but just like in my life,
- 20:32I try to promote and take very seriously because like again kind of like that
- 20:37audience member that wrote you that review and that really and essentially he said,
- 20:40like, well it can be a little sanding, it's also you know,
- 20:44in a positive It's like like, look that that's a that's that's obviously your
- 20:48objective for any performance you do. You're trying to put out the best performance
- 20:52based on what the scripts or the production is. And for the audience members
- 20:56good I mean obviously you want to be good, but like good or bad.
- 21:00By bad, I mean you want some type to emote, for them
- 21:03to have some type of emotion through it. And when I saw the mental
- 21:07health thing or not meant to see me the mental health I was just like
- 21:11that connected me right now because I'm like, look, like any performance where
- 21:14that's like a focus, I'm always in on that because yeah, especially today,
- 21:18like I said, like mental health, thankfully it's becoming more of a
- 21:21topic not just in life but also like employers and stuff like that. Like
- 21:23I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you like I didn't even know this
- 21:26till like a meeting we have. Let me go my and my current player.
- 21:29The next month is uh mental health month, which I'm like all four
- 21:32which is great stuff like that mental health awareness rather so another thing is because
- 21:38like you mentioned, like you know, just something like yourself like with the
- 21:41past and stuff like that along the way, try to think how I should
- 21:45wear this? Okay, if any with the with the recent you know,
- 21:51with like the time off you've had or not the time off like with the
- 21:52production kind of not happening in a little bit and now you're going to that
- 21:56and based on past stuff, has that it all become like the mental health
- 22:02more of like a focus on the show or such. Has anything changed?
- 22:06That's really the main thing, because like you know, like sometimes like you
- 22:08know, like not just messing with like your performance or your production, but
- 22:12like sometimes something might happen in current events where it's like, hey, maybe
- 22:15we should enter that part out because of ABC and d reason and stuff like
- 22:19that. Yeah, I mean yes, and no, so no, there's
- 22:25nothing happening like in that. Sorry, don't spoil anything either. No,
- 22:29No, I'm not gonna spoil anything. I mean, yeah, if there's
- 22:32any new Yorkers, Connecticut people, New Jersey people listening and come see us.
- 22:36I'm not gonna spoil it, but uh it's interesting because yeah, yeah,
- 22:41I want to say something I wout saying soil it. Yeah yeah,
- 22:48but uh so there's there's nothing happening in the outside world that that that that
- 22:53that's really changed much about how we have. The show itself is like such
- 22:59a product of the nineteen eighties, though, and there's a couple parts and
- 23:02we every day were like and john Ford noton passed away, like right after
- 23:07I decided to work on this, but before I started working on it,
- 23:10and like in that same class, my acting teacher said to me, like
- 23:12you should email him and like tell him you want to do it. And
- 23:15of course I didn't because I'm, you know, afraid of people, and
- 23:18I'm kicking myself because like we have so many questions. So there are there
- 23:23there are some things in the show where we're like why did you put that
- 23:27in? Like what is happening? And then we're like, it's just the
- 23:30nineteen eighties and they're just they're in experimental theater land, and like this seemed
- 23:36like a yeah, I don't know, it was a its time. Yeah,
- 23:41yeah, and it's not it's not it's done almost never, you know
- 23:44what I mean. So I think it's I think I think probably I don't
- 23:48know. I mean, I think I think it's it's sort of more of
- 23:52probably was more of in a workshop phase and like maybe he would have I
- 23:55don't know, maybe he would have I don't know. But but nonetheless we
- 23:57love it. But it just sounds like regardless, like you know, like
- 24:02if he saw themselves, like they would probably enjoy it. Basic because I
- 24:04could tell like my sound like you I hope, So I hope. So
- 24:07yeah, And I mean that's why. Also we want to really be able
- 24:11to speak to his brother. He's like he's upstate a lot, so we
- 24:15the manager at the other theater, we talk to him all the time,
- 24:17and we're hoping to eventually meet john Ford Noonan's brother and just kind of like
- 24:21gets you know, just have a conversation with him and hopefully he'll see the
- 24:22show. But what I mean, one thing that we're sort of really trying
- 24:26to focus on, you know, and it's it's very strange for me to
- 24:30be a producer because I'm and to be acting in it, because it's because
- 24:33I'm also I'm also a director, and so it's like really hard for me
- 24:37to to like, you know, sort of like in rehearsal to stop not
- 24:41direct and also like not have the producer hat on and just have the actor
- 24:45hat on. That's something that I struggle with especially. And also I'm like
- 24:49an anxious person, so you know, there is really no turning off any
- 24:53part of my brain. It's just a matter of like sort of hushing it
- 24:56for a minute. But we we are sort of the ending of the show
- 25:03is is ambiguous and it really is up to the audience to decide what happens.
- 25:11And you know, ultimately I would I will say ultimately I've changed my
- 25:17mind about what happens to her from the first time we did it till now,
- 25:21so that that is actually kind of big. And I think the reason
- 25:26that I changed my mind in some ways is producer and director in some ways
- 25:30actor. But we we sort of, you know, when we got back
- 25:34together to to rehash it is sort of like why, you know, why
- 25:40do we want people to see the show, What is the message? Why
- 25:45should an audience come, and what are they taking away from it? And
- 25:48I sort of felt like that we have a stronger choice now, even though
- 25:55we're still playing with it and I still don't know, you know, if
- 25:57we'll ever get it right. But but and we we all feel like we
- 26:02could work on this show kind of forever and not quite figure it out.
- 26:07But in that way, it's it's changed a lot, actually, although I
- 26:10don't know that, yeah, because the ending is very ambiguous. Something sort
- 26:14of crazy happens at the end, and then you don't know what happens to
- 26:17her, see, and I love that. I love that stuff because,
- 26:21like I was, I was the biggest Like I said, I'm a huge
- 26:25movie guy. Some TV shows I enjoy and some friends of mine literally,
- 26:27like I'm not going to say who. I literally had a friend call me
- 26:30on the phone a couple of years ago and like literally cussed me out because
- 26:33I was one of the last few people to finally be like I don't need
- 26:37to watch the Sopranos. I know about the ending and all that stuff,
- 26:40and like, yeah, but you don't know why it's so important. And
- 26:41now obviously I've watched it, and obviously Sopranos and the air production completely different,
- 26:48but like the endow the point trying to make that was like the point
- 26:55trying to make that was like the ending. It's one of those endings where
- 26:57I'm not joking, like it's you sit there right when it happens, and
- 27:03you go, wait what happened? And then obviously you know you'll rate something
- 27:08or like and I can't remember theme in the movie. They did like a
- 27:11prequel like a couple of years ago for HBO, and like that made me
- 27:15think the ending changed for something like that. And it's like it's like one
- 27:18of the things where it's like a continuously makes you think about it and I
- 27:21guarantee you you know, like like once people see this or like like oh
- 27:22wait, I gotta go see it again because like maybe like oh did I
- 27:25miss something? You know. It's like it's like it's like any move like
- 27:27any movie now, which I get it. I get why they do this.
- 27:33I'm a huge guy like where if the movie's really good and I want
- 27:36to see it again, I'm gonna see it again. But like with some
- 27:37movies now and I get why they do this too. It's like oh,
- 27:40hey, like you gotta go back and watch it because you missed this thing
- 27:44because like this little thing that was on this guy's shelf was you know,
- 27:47and it was actually the key or something like just some light random stuff like
- 27:49that, and I see I love that stuff where like it continuously makes you
- 27:52think about just everything, which is awesome because like again that's what you want
- 27:56because like yeah, like yeah, you can do a production and then it's
- 28:00you know, it's good to go. Because like I remember like the first
- 28:03time like I saw Wicked, and uh like when I saw Wicked, like
- 28:07obviously like you know, if everyone by everyone knows what Wicked, it's kind
- 28:10of like the prequel to like what you know, Yah of Oz was,
- 28:11but like it was like one of those things. I was just like after
- 28:15like it ended, I was just like, wait, what happens now?
- 28:17You know? I mean like like like like like like like look, I
- 28:19know what happens later, but there's a giant gap in between. And I
- 28:25kind of like to know, you know, because like I know you mentioned
- 28:29earlier and I apologiz I came remember the name of the place you said that
- 28:32like Lynn Manuel Morinda kind of like helped keep running the Drama Bookshop. Yeah,
- 28:37thank you Drama Bookshop. Like like when Hamilton came out, like imem
- 28:40like that was just like a huge deal and like all like and like not
- 28:44that like I'm not gonna say like it gave theater like live performance is kind
- 28:48of like a a extra boost that it needed. But like I just remember,
- 28:53I mean I just rememt like there wasn't like a time where they were
- 28:56travel around the country where it's like, oh, hey, Hamilton's come to
- 28:59time, would you like take gets Well, they've been sold up for two
- 29:00years, so sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, And like all I
- 29:03ever kept hearing about it was like it was just like it wasn't just a
- 29:07historical musical. It was like one of those ones that makes you think and
- 29:11like again it's like like if you like you can you know, it's like
- 29:12the classic like hey, don't go to the bathroom during the movie. You're
- 29:15gonna you might miss the whole thing. Like it was like one of those
- 29:18that's what this this sounds like, which is awesome that like hey, if
- 29:21you kind of like if you blink, which you're gonna play like if you've
- 29:23blinked too many times, you're actually gonna miss this really important you know clue
- 29:26that kind of helps at the end when yeah, in fact the end you
- 29:30might not know. Yeah, no it is, but no, there are
- 29:34like there are a couple reveals and it's like and we you know, we
- 29:37we we talk on all the time, like all the time when rehearsal,
- 29:41like yeah, but is this happen, Like as we're like working through something
- 29:44like wait a minute, did this happen yet? Yeah, we're like no,
- 29:45We're like no, because this because this is gonna happen. And then
- 29:48we're like, but the audience isn't even gonna know that's gonna happen, so
- 29:51it doesn't even matter because they're not gonna be thinking about this like that at
- 29:53this point. And we're like, but of course it matters, and we
- 29:56know it matters, but we're like, and you know, it's like because
- 30:00they're yeah, there's just stuff going on that yeah, it's like things come
- 30:06together, but they also don't. But yes, I would love it if
- 30:08people like draw their own conclusions and uh and keep thinking about it yet and
- 30:15like in terms of like you mentioned, in terms of like things getting sort
- 30:18of better with mental health or at least as having better conversations. For me,
- 30:22that's actually one of the things that I want people to take away because
- 30:26I think sometimes I think sometimes people are kind of hard on I don't know.
- 30:34I don't know the country, or humans in general or just everybody.
- 30:38I don't know. I mean, I think we are not perfect yet,
- 30:41but I think we've come a long way. And I think things would have
- 30:48been completely different for Spanky if this was happening for her in twenty twenty twenty
- 30:53twenty four. You know, I think she would have had more resources,
- 30:56her friends would have known what to do, her parents would have known what
- 31:00like it it was just sort of like nobody, you know, like no
- 31:03one at that time. It was just kind of just not there. Just
- 31:08wasn't. They just didn't have like the options or the awareness or the ability
- 31:12to like ask for help in the way that I think we're getting better at
- 31:18you know, and we all have a long way to go, but like
- 31:19it's I think it's much better than it was, you know in nineteen eighty
- 31:22three. Well yeah, and it's like it's like you're saying, like it's
- 31:25that conversation like and you know right away some listeners of the show that I'm
- 31:32knock on you, but like quote like you know, different diferent like Baby
- 31:34Boomer generations gen X BLENNI was like each generation has had this like how I
- 31:40put it like this context, like what mental health is, and like some
- 31:42like that never hear of it, because like I'm a nineties kid, and
- 31:47like I'm well aware of mental health because it's something I focused on myself greatly.
- 31:51But like it's like having that discussion with people my age, half of
- 31:56them are like oh, like like it's none of them are ever like,
- 31:59oh, yeah, let's talk about it, which again it's not an easy
- 32:01thing to talk about, even like with your closest friends right away. But
- 32:04like some are like I've never talked about it because it might just been like
- 32:07based on how they were raised, not like anything like like not like most
- 32:10parents that were even like don't talk about your mental health, but just like
- 32:14they just it was never a focus for them. Yeah yeah yeah, And
- 32:16like as you said, like as we're getting as like the times getting older
- 32:21and stuff like that, because like I said, like, yeah, I
- 32:22managine this was written in twenty I mean, heck, if this was written
- 32:25you know, this was right in the eighties and this was all that stuff
- 32:28in the eighties. If this was written twenty twenty, it likely not too
- 32:32I mean maybe a little different, but like it wouldn't be that much everything
- 32:35would be today, but there's will be some difference because, like I said,
- 32:37just like it's mental health is just growing, thank thankfully, by the
- 32:40way, every single day. But also at the same time, it depends
- 32:44the generation, because who knows where mental health is gonna be nine just a
- 32:47fibers next year. So like it, like I said, like next month,
- 32:50like I didn't even know about it. It's mental health awareness a month.
- 32:52Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's It's interesting too because it's
- 32:57like so Spanky, I mean she we also talk a lot about if it
- 33:02was twenty twenty four, she she would be like the first female Yankees manager.
- 33:07Like she has this like statisian like she is she's a super fan,
- 33:12but she actually really knows what she's talking about. And the only reason I
- 33:15know that is because John cain Delpi, because that's what he does. Like
- 33:22he does this you know stats part. He goes around the country and sort
- 33:27of helps people work out pitchclock stuff. Like he he has a very good
- 33:31understanding of what's going on. And so it's Spanky the character, like she
- 33:36you know, she really knows what she's talking about, and she probably would
- 33:37have had a different career, a much different life, just if those opportunities
- 33:43were sort of more streamline, more mainline to women. But it's also really
- 33:47interesting to think about because she's, you know, she's stuck in her apartment.
- 33:51And it's weird because we're struggling so much with social media now and Internet
- 33:57and the effects and like when I have little kids and like we you know,
- 34:00we don't My eight year old daughter is always asking for a cell phone.
- 34:04We still don't have a cell phone. She doesn't really understand what TikTok
- 34:07is, you know, but a lot of her friends have cell phones,
- 34:10and it's but it's it's this huge thing that we're grappling with, and I
- 34:14think a lot I mean I think a lot of times we think of it
- 34:16in a bit of a negative way because it's having a big negative influence on
- 34:21mental health for instance. Right However, it's interesting because like I think,
- 34:24if Spanky had Internet, like she'd probably be I mean, she'd probably be
- 34:32a YouTube she'd be an influencer. I don't know, Speak he had internet.
- 34:37It was really sorry speaking had Internet and TikTok with and again I'm not
- 34:39the biggest baseball fan, but she had the internet with the way that the
- 34:44MLB is having their arms officiate the game. She probably have a stroke because
- 34:47it is yes, yeah, like she would like, yeah, she'd have
- 34:52like a little whatever post game YouTube, she'd be super famous. But then
- 34:57it's interesting because it's like would she be so she might be functioning better because
- 35:01maybe she'd have a career or she'd make a living on this, but then
- 35:06this behavior of like isolation, et cetera, Like it would also allow her
- 35:10to like ignore her her her problems right in a way, or like her
- 35:17her illness wouldn't like bubble to the surface in a way because she might just
- 35:21be able to keep going on high functioning as a YouTube influencer and like never
- 35:27really realize that there's other stuff going on for her that she really has to
- 35:30figure out. So it's just it's it's interesting. There's like so much to
- 35:34think about within this show and sort of in a modern lens. And I
- 35:37mean I was born in eighty two, so like for me, it's it's
- 35:40so fun because like I have la looks sneakers, like just the kinds that
- 35:45like I wanted to have when I was like a little girl. And we
- 35:49have you know, we have like a bunch of eighties just stuff in the
- 35:52show. You know, there's there's cassette tapes and she just great. It's
- 35:59just so fun to sort of like flash back to that time. Yeah,
- 36:04the show just has like so much, so much to think about and look
- 36:07at and talk about. I think. And I'm also like in New York
- 36:09like I am in New York City, die hard person. I love New
- 36:14York City, and I love like the vibrancy the feel of the West Village
- 36:20you get in the show even though you're not outside her apartment, you're in
- 36:23her apartment, but you still get that feel of like the old school in
- 36:25New York that that has gone in a lot of ways now well and actually
- 36:34kind of like and that's the thing too, because like I've always been a
- 36:37like with any films or anything like I've watched. I love it when basically
- 36:43how you're saying, like with what apartment like West Village is. I love
- 36:45it when almost a a location if you will. And I don't know one
- 36:54of my professors, they know, who are they about to be very proud
- 36:57of me for saying this. I love it And I'm a huge always and
- 37:00it's as like you like you have to hear someone say it for you realize.
- 37:04Oh actually I can think of like twenty of those when a location itself
- 37:07is almost like as as almost like as important as the character themselves. Like
- 37:15and I'm gonna like a huge nerd here, I don't know. I mean
- 37:16you've probably seen like the nineteen eighty ninety Tim Burton's Batman, like that background
- 37:22city itself was a character. Yeah, I mean obviously, and like again
- 37:28like obviously, like you know, stuff with film and theater has changed with
- 37:30like location stuff like that or for example, uh, my wife and a
- 37:34couple of years ago, I think they're still performing. We saw the Lion
- 37:37King in downtown Milwaukee in the musical and just like the thing I love like
- 37:42how what they did with that was like obviously, like it was just a
- 37:45stage, Like yeah, they had like the mountain, Hukuna matata, the
- 37:46whole jazz and stuff like that, but like I love like what they did,
- 37:50like they didn't just stay on stage, like they came into the crowd
- 37:53and like perform there because like why like well, the stage is the giant
- 37:58mountain top and like if you know it, Raffiki is sitting there looking at
- 38:00Simba and showing him us, Well, then all the animals should be next
- 38:04to us going oh hey ahh yeah in some aspects, so yeah, yeah,
- 38:08yeah. Anytime like it's setting, it anytime like setting is like a
- 38:12huge like part of the show. Like I'm always I'm always a huge fan
- 38:14of that because I guess, like I said, it's one of those things
- 38:15where it's like you pay attention because like you doing something as simple as walking
- 38:20to one corner or you moving a book like that could mean something. And
- 38:23just that's like it's like one of those things like Charles or Chuck. Most
- 38:27people don't really think about that, Like you know, you don't think about
- 38:30that when I say it, but then when you perform it and you see
- 38:34it, then all of a sudden, your brain clicks. You go,
- 38:36wait a minut, why are you doing that? Yeah? So yeah,
- 38:38yeah, And it's and it's like, you know, maybe not everybody does
- 38:42maybe, And I mean and we you know, we hope, you know,
- 38:45we we and like you said, like we want it to feel like
- 38:51the West Village is a character, and so I hope that we're doing some
- 38:54of that and and yeah, it it's a lot of those little things matter,
- 39:04and I think, you know, I think everybody's gonna just like anything
- 39:07else, everybody gets something different. And and that is one reason why I
- 39:10do like shows that sort of are a little more open ended. It's like,
- 39:16it's okay to feel like it means X to you and why to your
- 39:22husband? You know, like it's you don't You're not gonna get it.
- 39:25I know that drives some people crazy. Like it's like TV shows like that
- 39:30drive my husband crazy. You know, We'll be watching some I don't know,
- 39:32like some spy show and he's like, he's like, what is happening,
- 39:37And I'm like, I have no idea, but I I know that
- 39:42I'm I'm gonna get it in the end, and I trust it's gonna like
- 39:45I can't. I don't know what's happened, Like I don't know. He's
- 39:51like, but why not, You's gotta like figure it out, and I'm
- 39:53like, you just have to have faith it's right. So, yeah,
- 39:58I don't know, it might might I think. I think some people want
- 40:00to want to want to know, want to know, and some people don't.
- 40:06So yeah, this this, I don't know. Some people who don't
- 40:08like cliffhangers might might not like this particular show. But see, the thing
- 40:14is any person who says they don't like cliff hainers are the people who talk
- 40:17about cliffhangers more than anybody. So like, you know, because I think
- 40:22that's the thing, right, like they want it there. It's they're uncomfortable
- 40:27with uncertainty, right, But then that means you're all but that means also
- 40:30the production it's doing a job because why because it's like, what's the what's
- 40:34the one thing you always want tomber about any production? Do you remember how
- 40:37it ended? Obviously? Yeah, Like if they're sitting there and they're talking
- 40:39about this A, B and C and D with this ending, it's like,
- 40:44well, clearly because like you know, if I'm you know, if
- 40:46you're the person who's really upset about a cliff hainer, or if I'm just
- 40:51a person who's you know, I'm oh, yeah, how the show go
- 40:53and you're telling me about it's like it seems like you're really invested in this
- 40:57performance because all you're talking about is how it ended, right, Like like
- 41:00it's one of those things just like oh and I didn't like this okay,
- 41:04because like you know, when when the Sopranos came out, no one was
- 41:07like, oh yeah, I just faded the black anyway, what do you
- 41:10want for? Like no, it was like, you know, yeah,
- 41:13because like again, I'll never forget, you know, which is hilarious.
- 41:16My father loved him to death. Sorry, Dad, I gotta I've called
- 41:20him out before this before, you know, when I was I was watching
- 41:23move Radar movies when I was like five six years old. Don't get down
- 41:27it for any other children. You do what you want with your parenting decisions.
- 41:31And by the way, not like it was anything like crazy like or
- 41:34it was like Predator with all sports, like you know, like oh yeah,
- 41:37the guy got his arm chopped off whatever, But like, I'll never
- 41:42forget. The one thing he wouldn't let me watch with him was a Sopranos
- 41:46and I'll never forget. It's one of those moments in my life. I'll
- 41:49never forget where I'm sitting in my room and I'll never forget when the thing
- 41:52went to black because I was in my room and I I'm not gonna say
- 41:55it on air. I have never heard so many, so many vulgarities like
- 42:02love my I love my dad as most fathers are blue collar. I have
- 42:07never heard like swear to guy like if you're arrestled, but he was kind
- 42:08of prom on the TV, Like I was like, what is wrob with?
- 42:12And then they come to find out, you know, of course all
- 42:15in the it's the weirdest thing too. We live like in the like we're
- 42:16call this set kind of like down Hillary. You know, neighbors that like
- 42:20my dad didn't like, neighbors that like the one neighbor that no one there
- 42:23liked. They're on their front lawn. What happened to your TV? It's
- 42:28like it's one of it's one of those fun things. But it's like that's
- 42:30the purpose of like what you're like, what your production is gonna do.
- 42:34You're gonna and spot You're gonna kick up a lot of emotions. You're gonna
- 42:38have a lot of people questioning things, which is good. And then at
- 42:42the end, like you know when you take that final bom be like oh
- 42:45yeah yeah, and then some people are like wow, that was amazing.
- 42:46Some people are like I have so many questions, but it's like no one,
- 42:50no one. No one's just gonna be like I want to go home
- 42:52and have a pizza. It's like no, like what they want to keep
- 42:53talking about it, which is awesome. So that's what we hope. That's
- 42:57what we hope. Yeah, and I will I will Arnold Swarzenegger. So
- 43:00I do this thing sometimes where I'm like, I get nostalgic about my childhood,
- 43:06and I'll like pick a movie that I think is a good idea to
- 43:07show our kids case so it makes you feel better about the movie you were.
- 43:14I was like, Kindergarten Cop. Oh, yeah, we should,
- 43:16we should watch Kindergarten Cop. But this was like I was like two,
- 43:20it was maybe two Christmases ago, so my daughter was seven and my little
- 43:24one was three. But Kindergarten Cop sounds fine, right, that's not Oh
- 43:30no, Kindergarten Cop is like there's like there's like they like shoot like six
- 43:37people in like the first ten minutes and like very violent ways. Yeah,
- 43:40and did you remember that part? See I forgot that you see? And
- 43:44I hate to say, no, I think about it. Some parts of
- 43:45that movie are not exactly greatest in today's circumstances. They're not. They're really
- 43:51not. Yeah, it was I had to admit that, like that was
- 43:53a bad idea at that point. Yeah, but it should probably have not
- 43:57have been called Kindergarten cop. No, I mean it implies just in the
- 44:01name, like kindergarten should be fine watching this. Yeah that's not true.
- 44:07That's very true because like because the other forgig too, like the first time,
- 44:10like I mean, I mean, like, yeah, I was a
- 44:13little guy, but like I wasn't stupid. I remember the first time I
- 44:15saw Billy Madison. I'm like, so wait a minute, you're telling me
- 44:17that this thirty year old can just walk into my class anytime he wants and
- 44:21like hit on my teacher and take the class. No, no, no,
- 44:25Chuck, that's illegal. It would be arrested. Oh man, Billy
- 44:30Madison. I haven't thought about that one in a long time. See,
- 44:34and it's it's hilarious. Well, it's like funny because like kind of going.
- 44:36I got the Billy Madison thing because like I said, like theater not
- 44:39that like it's not that like it's heaving renaissance, but kind of like in
- 44:43a way is it, because like I said, like I haven't heard and
- 44:45again, you can cut me if I'm wrong, because I when I was
- 44:46like like when I was growing up, like I never really heard about any
- 44:51major performances because I said, like I would I would always like watch like
- 44:53entertainment news or like read papers and something that because I I just love like
- 44:58entertainment stuff like that. And it wasn't really until Wicked or no, let
- 45:01me let me back check. It wasn't until Cats when like like always like
- 45:06I heard about this huge kind of thing with theater. And then obviously when
- 45:08Wicked came out, that changed the whole game. And then like I'm thinking,
- 45:13like other ones, what you got? Wicked you got, uh,
- 45:15Cats, you got about like rends. You were probably too young when n
- 45:20came out, but that was like a game gane. No, I remember,
- 45:22I remember my parents' out rent and of course I mean the big one,
- 45:25the one I never got to see, which I kind of kicked myself
- 45:28in the butt for, was a Book of Mormon. I'm a sucker for
- 45:30I'm a sucker for anything. The guys from South Park do blame me.
- 45:32I don't have the stuff they do. I'm like, why is this on
- 45:35television? I don't understand that, but yeah, but I would just the
- 45:40thing I would ask you, though, was like, how is it like,
- 45:46if anything, do you still feel that like there's that I mean,
- 45:50obviously, any actor, any performer, you know, they want to have
- 45:53the big blockbuster. They want to be doing the Tom Kruise movies. Why
- 45:57because it's like it's one of the things they having the most fun to make
- 45:59the most dope. Do you feel like there's still that giant urgency or that
- 46:02like drive to like they want to do that live performance because if anything too,
- 46:06Like I'm thinking about it now as I talk about it, Like there's
- 46:08times like I mean, I like watch the Oscars. Some friends of mine
- 46:10we do a little we do a little prop besk. Everyone doesn't and like
- 46:14you know, you'll hear like, oh so and so so for a Cami
- 46:15word. Oh, they just want a Tony where it's like, wait,
- 46:17Brian Branston was just doing broad Away, Like what that I didn't know?
- 46:22Yeah, So do you still feel like there's that drive, there's still that
- 46:24like urgency to like really want to do that live performance for audience? I
- 46:29mean, I don't know, because I I mean, I've I've never been
- 46:32to La So I I mean, I I like film acting. I would
- 46:42love to have more of a film and TV career when I had like when
- 46:46I had kids, I realized that that just wasn't possible with like not being
- 46:53able to pay a thousand dollars a month for childcare, probably even more than
- 46:58that, because you really like with film and TV, you really like you
- 47:01need to have twenty four hour availability, like I you know, I like
- 47:06like school. It's like two different school pickup times, two different school like
- 47:09it's it's other people can't do it. It's so anyway, So I really
- 47:14have been doing mostly theaters since I've had kids, although I really like both
- 47:17mediums. I love film and TV acting, and I would love to do
- 47:22more of that work because yes, it is, I mean, it's it's
- 47:23it's different, and I don't I mean, I I mean, I think
- 47:31most people who are like trained in New York are really trained to be theater
- 47:36actors. They're trained, you know, it's still sort of considered like you
- 47:38train in acting school, you do scene work, you do plays, and
- 47:45you train as if you're going to be a theater actor, and then you
- 47:47sort of transfer it to to film and TV. And a lot of most
- 47:52acting schools have film and TV class now, and it's a little bit different.
- 47:55But I think that it's I mean, I think some great actors,
- 48:00probably you know, great film actors can't transfer it to the stage and they
- 48:06try and it's like whatever, go home, and some can some can I
- 48:09mean, you know, like the way around or or it's the other way
- 48:14around. Yeah, one hundred percent. So I mean I think I really
- 48:17don't know because I grew up doing theater. I mean, I grew up
- 48:22doing musicals, you know, from a very very young age. So I
- 48:24don't know, you know, if if people still feel that drive or not.
- 48:30I mean, I know that it, you know. And it's weird
- 48:31because because I'm so busy, I have like six different jobs and we live
- 48:35in the Bronx, so like we're kind of removed in a way from some
- 48:37of the art scene that's happening. Like I can't just bop into Midtown to
- 48:42see something, and it's really hard for us to get babysitters. It's like,
- 48:46I act, I don't see a lot of theater, which is nor
- 48:51do I even watch a lot of movies because I'm so busy and I'm so
- 48:54tired, and then I'm doing my own work. So it's like if I'm
- 48:59not in my own rehearsals or in a show, I might go see stuff
- 49:02that my really good friends are in. It's it's really hard for me to
- 49:07just like get out and see theater, and then, you know, I'm
- 49:10so tired. I often fall asleep with my kids at like nine o'clock,
- 49:15yeah, you know, and then I wake up at like, you know,
- 49:16I wake up really early, like do some work in the morning when
- 49:19everybody's leaving me alone. So it's so it's it's kind of like embarrassing to
- 49:23say, but I don't feel like I have a really great grasp on like
- 49:27what other people are doing in the industry sometimes because I'm just so sort of
- 49:32like in in my zone of like mom and teacher and and producer and actor
- 49:39that I don't I don't necessarily have a great grasp on what else is going
- 49:43on. I mean, Jonathan Tatiana do, and and they they always come
- 49:45back and they tell me about the theater that they see. I mean,
- 49:49I think in New York people are just as passionate about theater as they as
- 49:52they always have been. That's awesome. It's a little bit different after COVID,
- 49:58but I think it's I think it's still huge, and I mean I
- 50:00still think there's nothing like live theater. So I don't I think people,
- 50:07Yeah, I think people still have that drive and I also I do immersive
- 50:10theater, which is like what you were saying. I mean, it's different
- 50:15than mine King obviously, but I do an immersive theater where the audience is
- 50:19really part of the show, and that's becoming a little bit more and more
- 50:22popular, which I think is really cool, and I sort of think I
- 50:27feel like that has a lot more I don't know, I feel like that
- 50:31will become more and more interesting to people and sort of more and more well
- 50:35known, and there'll be more immersive shows that people can come to see and
- 50:37take part in, which is really cool, I think. And I think
- 50:42that people in some ways probably have like a little bit of a yearning for
- 50:45that now, sort of after COVID, I think people like to connect and
- 50:50sort of I think combination COVID and social media, people sort of hunger for
- 50:55sort of real human connection and experiences. Yeah, so I think live theater
- 51:00gives you that, and then immerse the theater gives you that, like even
- 51:04more so, I think people I think people will always love performing theater and
- 51:08seeing theater, I hope. I think I think there's nothing worry about that,
- 51:13because like I said, I I don't I mean, like anytime like
- 51:15you hear that, like theaters are continuously selling out, whether there were traveling
- 51:20across the country or like in your instance, like you're doing that, You've
- 51:23done this show, you in a different place before, now you're doing it
- 51:27literally pretty much right near you know, yeh stadium, like like if anything,
- 51:30like you're you're really you're really going with the theme there with the whole
- 51:34Yankees everything like that was spanking smart. Yeah, But no, like I
- 51:37said, I think there's always be that driver because like I said, and
- 51:38kind of going like you're kind of about like ever since COVID, like that
- 51:43we have even like and again you know the pandemic's over, yes, and
- 51:46no it is it it is because we're still in the effects, but like
- 51:49we still had that like yurnie or like someone's like pulling us to like like
- 51:52yeah, I can go on Twitter, Oh sorry, X, I can
- 51:57go on Facebook? Can we started on that? I can go on I
- 52:00know, I can go on all these platforms and stuff like that and like
- 52:05type and discuss and like saying what I want to say. But like it's
- 52:09gonna it's gonna sound it's gonna sound really, it's gonna sound awful actually,
- 52:13But like just having that like I'm not gonna say like almost at the baby,
- 52:15like almost like an argument about something like you're passionate now, like in
- 52:19a bad sense, but like like like something that you saw, like oh
- 52:22I saw this movie and you saw that movie, Like you saw this show
- 52:24and I saw that show, and it's like you or we were talking about,
- 52:28oh this person, I love the ending, they're like, oh I
- 52:30hated it. And it's like and I'm glad because I feel like it's helping
- 52:34a lot of people. Actually, But one of the few bright sides I'm
- 52:37gonna say that out of the pandemic was people are a little more not as
- 52:44well. I mean some of mark, but like not as many people are.
- 52:46Like I want to say, no, they're not a shy That's what
- 52:49I'm trying to say. Where it's like they have that like they have that
- 52:52forefront focus of like I need to connect with you, I need to talk
- 52:54with you, so like you you know, usually might be like oh cool,
- 52:58you liked it. Cool anyway, it's like why do you like it?
- 53:00Yeah, And like they get that they get either their comfort zone,
- 53:02which is awesome and I think and like it'aid like I know some I know
- 53:06people they have never been to theater. I've always encouraged to go to it
- 53:08because, like I said, it's like doing something different from one is always
- 53:12fun. But then like if you do something different and you get hooked to
- 53:15it, like like what more do you what work do you say about that?
- 53:19Yeah? Yeah, so you got something good out of it? And
- 53:21like I know some people like who who have gone to uh performances. I
- 53:24mean I can't and I apologize to the people involved. I can't remember the
- 53:29name of the theater of Milwaukee. There's this theater Milwaukee. It's kind of
- 53:31like you might know the name of the type of stage. Essentially, it's
- 53:35not a center stage. It's there's a stage. I like, actually I
- 53:37take them back it as a center stage, but like the stage is like
- 53:40if it's ten by ten, I'd be shocked, but it's everyone's completely surrounded.
- 53:46As remember there's only like maybe it's like a stage. I could fit
- 53:50maybe fifty people if they build the stage right. But just like that,
- 53:54there's that like emotion like you said, like where it's like there's an interactiveness
- 53:58where they're like they're in your face talking. But with this performance, rather
- 54:01that the audience wasn't involved, the guy wasn't like pointed audience members. There's
- 54:05just the basic on how it was. So I do think that in terms
- 54:09of you know, live performances theater, there isn't that like there's not there's
- 54:15not a downtrend. Rather, that's what I'm trying to get sayed is yeah,
- 54:17I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think so. And
- 54:21you know, it's like it's it's yeah, I think I think you're right,
- 54:23and I think that yeah, And I think it is good to bring
- 54:28people together. And you know, I think it's it's so safe to sort
- 54:30of like have that fight on X and like forget that the other person is
- 54:36human, you know, and we're everybody's so divided right now. It's like
- 54:39if people had probably real conversations, it would be a little harder to you
- 54:45know, to sort of demonize everybody so much. So Yeah, I think
- 54:49go live theater, bringing more people together, talk about endings and then you
- 54:54know, talk about something else too. I don't know. Yeah, No,
- 54:59I think you're I think people do sort of want to come out and
- 55:04experience things. I hope. I mean, I think it's we just saw
- 55:07I just saw hades Town two nights ago because my all time favorite singer songwriter,
- 55:13Anita Franco is in Hadies Town right now. And that was the first
- 55:17Broadway show. I actually can't even remember how long it's been, which is
- 55:22terrible. But you know, once my kids are older, I'll get back
- 55:24to sing wore theater. But but yeah, it was. I mean,
- 55:28I see other theater, but I haven't been on Broadway, you know,
- 55:31on a in a Broadway theater in a long time. And that was.
- 55:37Yeah, it was just wonderful to see all the different you know, tourists
- 55:40and New Yorkers and sort of like you know, young people, old people.
- 55:45It's it's you know, a theater is going to bring everybody together in
- 55:46that way. And I think a generational thing is important too, because the
- 55:52generation sort of seemed to get more and more divide, like not not divided
- 55:58as in like against each other, but it's like I just think like the
- 56:01gap between because of technology growing so quickly, I think like the generations are
- 56:07just so different now in a way that they maybe don't interact as much.
- 56:12I don't know, but I think it's great to bring generations together as well.
- 56:15And you mentioned about people not seeing theater. My like dream, dream
- 56:20dream is to get like Yankees fans who just don't see theater, to get
- 56:22to come, like to come to the show. I feel like that's what
- 56:25I really want. I know, Well, there's actually games that whole weekend.
- 56:30There are games that whole weekend, which is like one of the reasons
- 56:35why I went on pod match is as you said, which is like a
- 56:37very cool platform, because I just I was like, how do I get
- 56:39to how do I get to baseball fans? Because you know, I have
- 56:44my circle of performers and artists and theater people, Like how do I get
- 56:47to how do I get out of my zone of sort of like you know,
- 56:52of just people, Like how do I get that guy in Connecticut who's
- 56:59like close to the Bronx and like he doesn't come ever see theater. I
- 57:00don't know, but I'm working on it. I mean I feel like I
- 57:07feel like just I mean, like I said, if anything to like you
- 57:09said, you talk about getting it might like like we talked about like getting
- 57:14people out of their comfort zone, which of course it's not easy for anyone
- 57:17to do that. I don't care how tough you are. But like when
- 57:21you do that, the reward can be fantastic. And I feel like having
- 57:27a Yankee fan who doesn't like theater or not, like they's never done they
- 57:32ever gone to theater, I feel like that could like they were like I
- 57:37would love that. That would be like the cream of the crap, like
- 57:39like, hey, this is perfect scenario. We got what we want.
- 57:43We got a Yankee fan who you know, they're sitting there the whole time
- 57:45murmuring like, oh I could have been I should have gone on the game,
- 57:51okay, and that wasn't. By next by the end, by the
- 57:53end of the show, they're standing up giving you you know, standing ovation
- 57:58because they're so you know, like moved by the performance, especially especial or
- 58:02as I'm sure something they ruined theater for them forever and they never want or
- 58:09as some die hard Yankees Red Sox fans that are like wait a minute,
- 58:13that's not or something like that because of so we did. We did one
- 58:20library show in March, just this past March. We were one of the
- 58:23theater companies I work with organizes a library show, and the artistic director there,
- 58:29who I've done for a long time, said, you know, Amelia,
- 58:30if you want to if you want me to put this sort of on
- 58:32the dock, and I will. And I was like, I don't know
- 58:35if it's gonna work as a library show, but sure, you know,
- 58:37if people want to have us and like one library us up on it in
- 58:43all of Westchester. But it was, I mean, it was a great
- 58:45opportunity for us because we got it up on its feet, you know,
- 58:47two months ago now, so now we're just sort of tinkering with the fun
- 58:51stuff. But the the audience there, you know, it was like a
- 58:54Sunday matinee in Westchester. And there were a couple older gentlemen in the audi
- 59:00and who came up to me at the end, and one of them,
- 59:04one of them was like, he wouldn't stop talking to me about Yankees and
- 59:07baseball. I had no idea what he was talking about. I had no
- 59:09idea, but he did say that there is she is watching a game in
- 59:15the show, and he said that he remembered the game that she was watching,
- 59:20and yep, and he was. And then he was talking about how
- 59:23he remembered all the players that she's that she's talking about. And then there
- 59:27was another gentleman who was a little more streamlined and was sort of like,
- 59:31I'm a huge Yankees fan. This was on point, Like everything made sense,
- 59:36it was accurate, it was historically you know, blah blah blah blah,
- 59:38which was like very cool to hear. I mean, we we know
- 59:42that it is, but it was cool that. I mean, they were
- 59:45but they were theater people. They were theater at baseball people. So but
- 59:49it was just fun to hear from them that they that they sort of did
- 59:52lock into the baseball stuff because there is a lot of it. Although it's
- 59:55like if you don't like baseball, you don't hear that, you know what
- 59:59I mean, it doesn't it's this or that, it doesn't matter. But
- 1:00:01if you do like the baseball there's a lot of history in there. There's
- 1:00:05a lot of details that are like sort of fascinating. Billy Martin is the
- 1:00:08manager of the Yankees during this play, and he was a little like fiery.
- 1:00:16He was fired literally a couple of times and came back as manager I
- 1:00:20think two or three times and had like a big temper, big reputation,
- 1:00:27and so a lot of people remember him and they remember when he was manager.
- 1:00:30He died tragically in a car crash in the late eighties, I think
- 1:00:35so. Yeah. So it's just it was a fascinating time for baseball and
- 1:00:39people, people who were alive and were Yankees fans then absolutely remember that this
- 1:00:45specific time period, which is very cool. So it's fun and and then
- 1:00:50we can wrap up here in a second. I do appreciate your time to
- 1:00:52see especially on a Friday. I do gotta say, like anytime, like
- 1:00:57any performance you do. You know, like I said, obviously obviously you're
- 1:01:00doing your homework. You have a great team just by now you just by
- 1:01:04like with the Messry Simon, just like the like just the way the emotion
- 1:01:07that you showcase actually like like they know their baseball, they know this and
- 1:01:09stuff like that. But like when you have literally the most uh what's the
- 1:01:16word I'm looking for, the most strict if you will, like peers of
- 1:01:20like I'm a diehard Yankees fan. I remember exactly what what game and what
- 1:01:23play, what the temperature was on that day, saying that that was spot
- 1:01:28on, Like I mean, that's just gotta feel like a giant not like
- 1:01:30it's just gotta feel like a whole like Okay, we're doing this on like
- 1:01:35we're doing this right. Yeah, Yeah, And I mean, it's also
- 1:01:37kind of like a nod to John Ford noonit and like because I mean he
- 1:01:39wrote it in the eighties. It was you know, it was fresh in
- 1:01:43his mind. It's not like he was going to do research, right,
- 1:01:45but it just he did take the time to make it accurate. The things
- 1:01:52that mattered are accurate, you know. The the things that are based in
- 1:01:57history or are based in baseball are accurate, which is cool, you know.
- 1:02:00And the rest is just just all sorts of other stuff is just like
- 1:02:06you wouldn't you wouldn't even think of. And I think that'd be really kind
- 1:02:09of it'd be really interesting. Like you said, like people go into this,
- 1:02:15they know it's from the eighties. They watch it as one things like
- 1:02:17wait a minute, what does this happen like in the you know now?
- 1:02:21Or like that, what did this happen like in the later nineties two thousands
- 1:02:23when they were like in the World Series every time you blink or yeah or
- 1:02:29what if? What if? Hearing out? What if this? What if?
- 1:02:30This? Uh? What if? This book was written in two thousand
- 1:02:34and four, when the Red Sox finally broke the curse. Oh god,
- 1:02:37I mean I remember that so well. I remember that so well, that's
- 1:02:43that's literally how my step my mom and my now my pops, my stepdad,
- 1:02:46that's how we bonded because I wasn't really the big I mean I was,
- 1:02:51I was. I watched base I watched you know, I watched you
- 1:02:53know, I'm from in Chicago, Cubs guy, and like I would watch
- 1:02:57Cubs games with my dad and then like my stepdad is a White Sox fan,
- 1:03:01and like right out, I'm like, I'm like, oh no,
- 1:03:04we got a problem. But then like we both were watch sitting there watching
- 1:03:07because I mean, like he said, I wasn't a baseball but I knew
- 1:03:09the curse of the you know, I knew the great of Bambino. Everyone
- 1:03:12knows that you don't have to be a baseball fan. You know that,
- 1:03:14you know that curse, and like just watching that with him, it was
- 1:03:20just like it was like again, like you know, it was one of
- 1:03:22those scenes you never thought you'd see. I never thought I see the Cubs
- 1:03:24won the World Series. But love of God, they somehow did it.
- 1:03:28I still sometimes don't think they did it, but they did it. I
- 1:03:30mean it doesn't look like they did it now, but no, and I
- 1:03:34think it's like one of those scenes where any performance where you can get the
- 1:03:37audience member to continuously think afterwards good or bad, it's like it's one of
- 1:03:43use. It's like, hey, we got him, and I really do
- 1:03:45hope for you that you do get I'm saying, not even just Yankees fans,
- 1:03:51hope we get Red Sox fans, because that'd be awesome too. I
- 1:03:53would love some Red Sox fans. And you know, I am a New
- 1:03:58England girl. I mean yeah, I mean my family is a Red Sox
- 1:04:01fan. My dad, my dad's Red Sox fan. But yeah, yeah,
- 1:04:05Red Sox fan are welcome. Everybody's welcome, Like, yeah, New
- 1:04:09England, you guys have had some pretty good years you have, Like what
- 1:04:12last twenty you got, like how many Super Bowls? How many Stanley Cups?
- 1:04:16Yeah I don't, I am not. I'm not a football person,
- 1:04:18but I even I know that. Let's put it that way, right,
- 1:04:21put it that way. Like I know someone I know, Curly lives in
- 1:04:25Boston. They're like and they like that they don't like sports at all,
- 1:04:28and they're like, yeah, that's all I hear about is like oh yeah,
- 1:04:30yeah, years ago we did this, And I'm like, great,
- 1:04:32can I get my pizza. Yeah, oh man, and you you have
- 1:04:39to you clearly have to come to New York though, if you're eating pot
- 1:04:41pizza in Boston, this is problematic. So well and actually, if anything,
- 1:04:45we didn't even get to that. I've never I have never heard I'll
- 1:04:49say this really quick, I have never heard a person from Chicago going to
- 1:04:56New York and complain about their pizza. Now, I never heard a person
- 1:05:00say that Newer pizza is better than Chicago pizza. But I've never heard a
- 1:05:04complaint. And I've always wanted It's like a dream, like like you know,
- 1:05:06go like different right, Well, yeah, well it's like it's like
- 1:05:10any it's like anywhere, like if like, yeah, go go to Texas
- 1:05:13and get a steak and then go to ninety a steak, go to Seattle
- 1:05:16and get a fish taco, and then go to Texas and or not not
- 1:05:19Texas, get somewhere not on the water and get a fish taco. Of
- 1:05:23course, completely different. So we got engaged in Chicago. I was there
- 1:05:30for like, oh and we but I mean Chicago pizza is like deep dish
- 1:05:34right to me. That's like see, that's the thing that's the difference it's
- 1:05:40okay. No, no, no, no, that's fair. No,
- 1:05:42that is the general public and some people some people like that. Know.
- 1:05:45We're like, that's not no deep Dish, No deep Dish, Yeah,
- 1:05:46Deep Dish is a Chicago pizza, yes, but for Chicago pizza, it's
- 1:05:50not the Chicago pizza. Now, Chicago pizza is like when it's it's it's
- 1:05:55just kind of like your pizza is just a regular pizza, but we cut
- 1:05:57into squares like that to me, Chicago pizza. But but but here's the
- 1:06:01thing. No, we I will gladly say we owneded Dish because yeah,
- 1:06:05it's fantastic. Now. Is that the thing that most people go to when
- 1:06:09they'd come here? Yes, And like you know, like or like I
- 1:06:12said, he what pizza chain did this Year're like, oh, we're gonna
- 1:06:15serve New York pizza. I'm like, I'm in I'm in Milwaukee. I'm
- 1:06:17not. That's not sure, that's not New York. Like like when they're
- 1:06:20all there like, oh, it's a New York pizza you folded in the
- 1:06:23middle, and it's like that's no, you gotta do that in New York
- 1:06:25because like I mean, that's like a goal of mine. Someday to go
- 1:06:27to New York and like we're out super Land. It's like, oh,
- 1:06:30it's two am, where can we find a pizza place open? Of course
- 1:06:32you can. It's New York, so yes you can. Although I don't
- 1:06:35know if those are the ones I would do. I have to tell you
- 1:06:39if so, listen, if you when you hunts to New York, you
- 1:06:42have to actually come to the Bronx for pizza, because the Bronx is the
- 1:06:45real little Italy Arthur Avenue. But then also the best pizza is Louis and
- 1:06:50Ernie's. It's sort of on my side of town. Louis and Ernie's that's
- 1:06:55where you have to go. And they're all cash, super old school,
- 1:06:59it's so bron See right away, you got me. If I go to
- 1:07:02a place and they're all cash, I'm in right away. Because like there's
- 1:07:04some places, there's some like not I mean there's some people, but mostly
- 1:07:08there's like what Chicago's also known like like a little side note, secretly they're
- 1:07:12known for their Italian beasts. If you go to Italian Beast Joint and they
- 1:07:15have it's only cash only, you're in. It's like, okay, this
- 1:07:17is this is a good place. I don't need to know it. If
- 1:07:21anything, I don't know if you've watched The Bear at all, it's a
- 1:07:24huge poppet show on FX right now. They've actually yes, And it was
- 1:07:30like a pad in the back because my dad's favorite beef joint. They couldn't,
- 1:07:33I guess you know. It's like it's like a business. It's like
- 1:07:35a small business, like, hey, can we use your place? Can
- 1:07:38we run out your place for day to run do our show? And they're
- 1:07:40like no, like no, we need to make a living. And so
- 1:07:43what they what what the show did? They didn't. They literally made a
- 1:07:46studio, like a little studio, and they made an actual replica of this.
- 1:07:50It's called mister Beats and Orleans if you're in noise that I'm talking about,
- 1:07:54and it's just and the and they literally got they even got it down
- 1:07:57to the cash only sign right and like right away. It was like,
- 1:08:00oh, and maybe want to drive down there right away? But then I
- 1:08:02forgot about the Chicago traffic, which we don't get into New York at Chicago
- 1:08:05traffic. No no, no, no, definitely not definitely not definitely not
- 1:08:11yeah, because we like in our neighborhood you have to have a car.
- 1:08:14So I'm like a you know, like I have a car. It's it's
- 1:08:16weird living in this area of the Bronx went to non New Yorkers, Like
- 1:08:20I play like I'm a New Yorker, but like we never order delivery.
- 1:08:26I can't walk outside and get a cup of coffee and like one of the
- 1:08:28coffee shops like friends, Like that's not it's not like my hand. I
- 1:08:34would love to. I mean, when I'm rich and famous, I will
- 1:08:36live I will live in Greenwich Village right where Spanky lives. There you go,
- 1:08:40But for now we uh we actually right now we live in the apartment
- 1:08:43that my husband grew up in. We're about to move, but we're staying
- 1:08:45in the area because, uh we love the Bronx. And I I never
- 1:08:49would have thought that I was going to live in the Bronx. Like I
- 1:08:53sort of joke that, like if you told me when I moved to New
- 1:08:55York City that I was going to live in the Bronx, I never want
- 1:08:57to move. It's not true. But it was not my dream to like
- 1:09:03live in the Bronx ever ever. Ever, but here you are is like
- 1:09:08here I am, but like the Bronx is still the Bronx. It's still
- 1:09:11the old school in New York doesn't have these like fancy little bike lanes and
- 1:09:14like restaurants on the Parking Street like it's the Bronx is still the Bronx,
- 1:09:19and I love it and uh but yeah, it's it's it's weird. I
- 1:09:26drive a lot. I drive a lot for New Yorker. Yeah, that's's
- 1:09:30wrong with that. There you go. And on that note, I do
- 1:09:33want to first thly, I do appreciate your time this evening. Again.
- 1:09:36I know it was a Friday. We've been talking for a couple of weeks.
- 1:09:40Now try to get this down and we already get this time. Not
- 1:09:43so again thinking for coming on. Thank you. I always like to give
- 1:09:46the final few minutes notes to you. Obviously we've you know, we've discussed,
- 1:09:51we discussed some the stuff here. I mean, I mean, I
- 1:09:54really appreciate you also getting detail about your family. I said, I know
- 1:09:56you you you know you do teach method acting your HU. It works in
- 1:10:00education as well. Obviously, you know if you're in the New York area,
- 1:10:04I'll give you a second to like to like obviously say where they can
- 1:10:06follow information obviously, if you're in New York area coming soon, go see
- 1:10:10it. All she cares about is the Yankees written by John Ford Noon in
- 1:10:14nineteen eighties. And yeah, so before we get out of your Amelia,
- 1:10:17the floor is yours. And if there's aye, promote your show where they
- 1:10:21can find you online, socials and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean,
- 1:10:26I think just like I mean, if you're in the area, please
- 1:10:30check out the show. We are at Andrew Friedman Home May sixteenth, seventeenth,
- 1:10:34and eighteenth. Tickets are an event, right if you just look at
- 1:10:39all she cares about is the Yankees event, right, and then my instagram
- 1:10:44is Yankees Underscore play. And then more than anything, because I know,
- 1:10:47you know, listeners are all over the country, like follow me, and
- 1:10:50like if you thought anything was interesting and you have any ideas to share,
- 1:10:55like message me. You know, I just want to connect with people,
- 1:10:58and obviously more followers help me. If you know any baseball fans who like
- 1:11:02live in the area who want to see theater, or if you have a
- 1:11:06small theater in your small town and you want a Yankees show to come,
- 1:11:13We're a small little team and we can set everything up. If you have
- 1:11:15a theater that like wants the show will come, We'll come to you.
- 1:11:20And yeah, and I'm also an acting coach. If you want Zoom method
- 1:11:24acting lessons. If you live in I don't know, uh, Louisiana or
- 1:11:28something like that, and you want some acting lessons, hit me up for
- 1:11:31that too. But yeah, more than anything, just like follow me.
- 1:11:33And you know, I like to chat with people. I like to hear
- 1:11:36what people have to say about things. And thank you so much, Chuck.
- 1:11:41This was like really fun. I like just you know, like your
- 1:11:46your I like hearing your ideas too, so that like I'm just like not
- 1:11:51doing all the talking. It was really fun to hang out and have my
- 1:11:54seltzer a great fruit beverage oftentimes like I get. Actually once had another guest
- 1:12:02that came on here Authorna by the name of JV Hillary and asked me,
- 1:12:05goes hey, was listened to some of your episodes, like you guys don't
- 1:12:09drink a lot? What do you mean? It was like oftentimes you just
- 1:12:12every time with every little side notes and I didn't even not even joke,
- 1:12:15I even mean to say earlier with the Bill in Madison, it is an
- 1:12:17homage to Adam Sandler. Anytime we have water on here, we don't call
- 1:12:20it water, we call it high quality. H two oh, unless unless
- 1:12:25you're in the state of Florida, because their water is absolutely disgusting. So
- 1:12:30but so, but you know, I appreciate you coming on. It was
- 1:12:34a pleasure speaking with you. Also, side note real quick, So Adam
- 1:12:38Sandler was went to my acting studio and his teacher Jeffrey in what's the what's
- 1:12:45the daddy? What's the big daddy Daddy? Yeah, so he's like the
- 1:12:49older man who steals his girlfriend, Jeffrey. So that's my that's that's my
- 1:12:55teacher. That's my wonderful, amazing, amazing like you're telling American treasure.
- 1:13:01He's amazing, right, teacher, Yes, you're telling me. The teacher
- 1:13:06is the guy he walks in this apartment going, hey, I grown up.
- 1:13:12I didn't tell you this, but I adopted a kid for us.
- 1:13:15And then this old man walks out of the bathroom. Yes, and then
- 1:13:18she goes he has a five year plan, and he goes, what don't
- 1:13:21die? That's awesome? Yes, yes, I know and like, and
- 1:13:28Jeffrey is so much more than that. He is an amazing teacher. He
- 1:13:32was he was in Bridge on the River. Why he was in like Twilight
- 1:13:35Zone episodes. But yes, that's him, and he's amazing and wonderful,
- 1:13:39and him telling me that I should do the Yankees play is really ultimately why
- 1:13:43I did it. So we've come full circle. Thanks. That is awesome.
- 1:13:51And on that note, that is Amelia obviously, please go follow her
- 1:13:55on all of her on her socials and also you know, if you had
- 1:13:58the chance, if you're the New York area on the I believe that's the
- 1:14:01third weekend of May, go check out all she cares about the Yankees.
- 1:14:05Otherwise we've any questions, feel to reach out to Amelia. Also you,
- 1:14:09like I said, yeah, just go on their web. Go on their
- 1:14:10website. You can send the more information. And again Yankees are pretty global.
- 1:14:15I mean no reason you can't be in Chicago, Milwaukee, San Antonio
- 1:14:19and send her a measures of going, hey, let's talk, let's shit
- 1:14:21chat like that like them a fun weekend So as always thinking of for coming
- 1:14:26on. You can find us at Chucks myself at Chucks Cantina, your socials,
- 1:14:30Chuckscantina at gmail dot com and uh, we'll see you next time.
- 1:14:34They can get Amelia