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The Kenny Report | 3 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lare from the skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny.
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Speaker 3: Report, Thanks for joining me tonight, definitive proof that labor
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Speaker 3: is soft and aimless on national security as the ASO
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Speaker 3: boss changes his tune and says Humma supporters are not
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Speaker 3: welcome here. US President Joe Biden is back from the beach,
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Speaker 3: but he takes a wrong step on Israel straight away
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Speaker 3: and he plays sidekick for Kamala Harris. I'll show you
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Speaker 3: how your taxes fund climate hysteria and merdocophobia at the ABC.
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Speaker 3: And the term gas lighting, do you know what it means?
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Speaker 3: I'll explain as we explore its origins. Also a ripping
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Speaker 3: panel with Amanda Rozan, Stephen Sena Tiempo, and Tim Blair
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Speaker 3: is back to discuss his American road trip.
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Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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Speaker 3: If you ever had any doubts about the Albanezi labor
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Speaker 3: government and their pathetic, confused weakness on national security and
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Speaker 3: border protection.
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Speaker 1: Well you got your confirmation today.
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Speaker 3: The disgraceful situation and public position that's lasted now for
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Speaker 3: almost a month that supporters of the bloodthirsty Islamist terrorist
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Speaker 3: group of Hummas would be allowed into this country so
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Speaker 3: long as their support was merely rhetorical. Well that has
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Speaker 3: finally been corrected by the Director General of ASIO, Mike Burgess.
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Speaker 3: Now Burgess has blamed others, in particular the media for
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Speaker 3: this mess, but it was all his own doing, of course,
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Speaker 3: when he told the ABC that rhetorical support for Hummas
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Speaker 3: would not prevent people fleeing Gaza from being allowed into Australia.
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Speaker 4: If they've expressed any supporter sympathy for hamas, is.
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Speaker 5: That a problem depends on the what that looks like.
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Speaker 5: If they're supported because they want their homeland, If they're
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Speaker 5: giving financial support or material aid, that can be problem.
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Speaker 5: And obviously we take each case on its merits and
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Speaker 5: context of the information we have before us.
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Speaker 1: But if it's just rhetorical support.
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Speaker 5: If it's just rhetorical re support, and they don't have
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Speaker 5: an ideology or support for a violent stream as an ideology,
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Speaker 5: then that's not a problem.
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Speaker 3: Now, some of us said straight away this could not stand,
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Speaker 3: This was not right. This nation could never allow supporters
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Speaker 3: of humas into this country. If it had happened in
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Speaker 3: the past, it was a disgrace and we needed to
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Speaker 3: ensure it will never happen in the future. And Burgess
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Speaker 3: has now clarified his position, effectively admitting that what he
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Speaker 3: said was wrong, but instead of owning it, he blamed
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Speaker 3: the media. I've watched with interest over the last couple
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Speaker 3: of weeks how people have chosen to distort what I said.
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Speaker 3: The AZO Director General told the ABC, well, that's just rubbish.
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Speaker 3: You saw exactly what he said, and if he thought
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Speaker 3: he'd misspoken or he'd been misinterpreted, he should have issued
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Speaker 3: a statement at the time, not let this ugly controversy
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Speaker 3: go on and on and on. The opposition was very
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Speaker 3: clear about what the national security response of an Australian
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Speaker 3: government should be.
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Speaker 6: I don't think people should be coming in from that
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Speaker 6: war zone at all.
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Speaker 1: At the moment.
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Speaker 6: It's not proven to do so, and I think it
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Speaker 6: puts our national security at risk. Anyone who supports from
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Speaker 6: US should not be allowed into Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. It's a pretty straight line.
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Speaker 6: I think if you're a mus supporter, whether it's rhetorical
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Speaker 6: or otherwise, you're violating all principles of the character provisions
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Speaker 6: of the Migration Act and your visa should be refused
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Speaker 6: on that basis.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Look, this is hardly rocket science.
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Speaker 3: This is just about showing a basic understanding of national
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Speaker 3: security priorities and how to manage immigration. And now the
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Speaker 3: AZO boss has laid down what he should have said
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Speaker 3: right at the outset and what should have been the
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Speaker 3: clear position all along. If you think terrorism is okay,
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Speaker 3: if you think the destruction of the state of Israel
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Speaker 3: is okay, if you think Hummas and what they did
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Speaker 3: on the seventh of October is okay, I can tell
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Speaker 3: tell you that that is not okay, and from an
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Speaker 3: ASIO security assessment point of view, you will not pass muster.
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Speaker 1: Burgess told the ABC in that statement, Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 3: But the trouble is he's taken more than three weeks
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Speaker 3: to clarify that statement, and more to the point, for
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Speaker 3: that entire time, the Prime Minister and his government have
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Speaker 3: done nothing to clarify it themselves, nothing to correct it
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Speaker 3: or overrule it. At no point did Anthony Albanizi say
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Speaker 3: that supporters of Hummas would be banned. He was happy
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Speaker 3: to go with the ASIO boss's statement or misstatement, the
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Speaker 3: statement that's now been repudiated by the Azio boss himself,
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Speaker 3: even when the Prime Minister was questioned repeatedly in question time,
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Speaker 3: asked to make sure any supporter of Hummas would be
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Speaker 3: blocked on character grounds alone, Albinosi Albaneze, he did nothing
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Speaker 3: to reassure the public that Hamas supporters would be barred
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Speaker 3: from entering this country. This to me is an inconceivably
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Speaker 3: weak position. This was a government all at sea on
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Speaker 3: how to manage this issue, more worried about offending people
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Speaker 3: fleeing Gaza than laying down an obvious ruling to protect
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Speaker 3: the security and social cohesion of this nation. It was
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Speaker 3: only today after Burgess finally corrected his own statement that
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Speaker 3: Alberanizi has fallen into line.
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Speaker 1: Mike Burgess is a big boy.
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Speaker 7: He can speak for himself, and he has, and he has,
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Speaker 7: and his comments are there for all to see.
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Speaker 1: Mike Burgess.
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Speaker 7: Keeps Australian safe.
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Speaker 3: Dear hey, there are two important outcomes from this absolute
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Speaker 3: cluster mess. First, the good news is that we can
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Speaker 3: finally be reassured that our security agencies will block any
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Speaker 3: potential immigrant who supports Hummus or for that matter, any
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Speaker 3: terrorist group. And second, we've seen that Anthony Albanesi and
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Speaker 3: Labor have no instincts on national security and border security.
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Speaker 3: They've been like rabbits in the spotlight for more than
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Speaker 3: three weeks, not even understanding and certainly failing to declare
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Speaker 3: that this nation should always block the entry of terrorist supporters.
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Speaker 3: How hard is it to make that clear anytime anywhere.
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Speaker 3: It's their solemn duty to put this into practice. US
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Speaker 3: President Joe Biden has returned to work, and immediately he's
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Speaker 3: made another wrong step, putting pressure on Israel rather than
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Speaker 3: hum Us, just after six Israeli hostages were executed, again
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Speaker 3: underline the depth of their depravity, the unspeakable evil that
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Speaker 3: drives their actions and their propaganda. Just days after they
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Speaker 3: slaughtered six hostages that held for almost eleven months, and
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Speaker 3: just days after they put bullets in the heads of
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Speaker 3: two women and four men who were kidnapped and then
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Speaker 3: executed for no reason other than the fact that they
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Speaker 3: were Israelis living peacefully in Israel.
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Speaker 1: Well, now Hamas has started.
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Speaker 3: Releasing videos it taped with those hostages before killing them.
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Speaker 1: We won't show you the videos.
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Speaker 3: This picture shows a still frame from each of the videos,
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Speaker 3: in which they make plaintive declarations of their love for
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Speaker 3: their families and the like. To show the tapes themselves
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Speaker 3: would be to inflict additional trauma on their families and friends,
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Speaker 3: not to mention to all Israelis and any decent human
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Speaker 3: beings around the world.
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Speaker 1: But this is Hummas.
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Speaker 3: They stand for murder and death, hatred and intimidation, intolerance
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Speaker 3: and war instead of their videos. Have a listened to
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Speaker 3: the mother of slain hostage US citizen Hirsch Goldberg Pollen
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Speaker 3: at his funeral. If there was something we could have
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Speaker 3: done to save you and we didn't think of it,
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Speaker 3: I beg your forgiveness.
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Speaker 8: We tried so very hard, so deeply and desperately.
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Speaker 1: Just horrible.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the diplomats are still pushing for some sort of
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Speaker 3: cease fire deal and have a listened to US President
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden, fresh back from a fortnight at the beach
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Speaker 3: old friends of colonel.
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Speaker 9: Mister President, And do you think it's time for pro
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Speaker 9: prime Minister net and Yahoo could.
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Speaker 1: Do more on the issue. Do you think he's doing enough?
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Speaker 3: No, No, says the President. He says Israeli Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: Benjamin now who is not doing enough? On the weekend
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Speaker 3: that six hostages were slaughtered in cold blood precisely to
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Speaker 3: prevent peace, to prevent into resolution, and today Hummas sends
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Speaker 3: out macabre videos from the hostages showing them very much
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Speaker 3: alive just days ago, and yet the US President says
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Speaker 3: it's Net and Yahoo who should do more? What offer
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Speaker 3: more concessions to this depraved bargaining. Doesn't this just show
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Speaker 3: that Hummask cannot be bargained with how it must be eliminated?
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Speaker 1: I mean Mettan Yahoo.
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Speaker 3: Warrants criticism, sure, primarily for the security failure that saw
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Speaker 3: Hummas invade southern Israel and carry out their atrocities in
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Speaker 3: the first place, But now with six hostages, including an American,
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Speaker 3: slaughtered in such a barbaric and provocative way, Biden should
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Speaker 3: show a bit more respect for his Israeli allies, not
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Speaker 3: get into a horrible moral confusion that looks a lot
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Speaker 3: like victim blaming, a stance that can only help the
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Speaker 3: evil propaganda agenda of Hummas. What us is the problem
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Speaker 3: along with its backers like Iran. It's the start and
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Speaker 3: the end of the dilemma. It won't abide a secure Israel.
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Speaker 3: The sooner President Biden and all Western leaders confront this reality,
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Speaker 3: the better the ABC the ABC. Meantime, I suppose this
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Speaker 3: is happening every day. It's hardly news, is it that
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Speaker 3: they're continuing to use a couple of million of couple
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Speaker 3: of million dollars of your hard earned taxes every year
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Speaker 3: to indulge the ideological preoccupations of one seventy two year
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Speaker 3: old EXBBC lefty.
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Speaker 1: Paul Barry is in his.
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Speaker 3: Last year as Media Watch host, where he's paid more
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Speaker 3: than two hundred thousand dollars a year to produce fifteen
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Speaker 3: minutes of television a week with a team of ten people,
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Speaker 3: and he often devotes it to his twin obsessions climate
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Speaker 3: alarmism and news corp paranoia or mrdocophobia. And last night
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Speaker 3: was another in the genre, another week where he wined
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Speaker 3: about news court papers and this station not getting as
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Speaker 3: hysterical as he is about global warming.
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Speaker 4: Have a look, but now join of the wonders of
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Speaker 4: the natural world, which may not be so wonderful in future.
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Speaker 4: Great Barrier Reef on one way path to decay thanks
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Speaker 4: to climate change.
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Speaker 1: With no end in sight.
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Speaker 4: Report says, Yes, more warnings about the future of Australia's
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Speaker 4: biggest tourist attraction, with the latest outlook report from the
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Speaker 4: Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority getting coverage across the media.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry was agitated that while the leftist media like
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Speaker 3: the ABC was focusing on the doom and gloom promoted
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Speaker 3: by the usual alarmists when it comes to the Great
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Speaker 3: Barrier Reef.
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Speaker 1: We prefer to.
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Speaker 3: Actually check in on the reality of how the reef
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Speaker 3: is faring and.
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Speaker 4: Naturally, Rid's reassuring message was welcomed on Sky After Dark,
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Speaker 4: where he repeated his regular claim that scientific institutions have
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Speaker 4: got it completely wrong.
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Speaker 10: Actually, most people don't even know that the reef is
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Speaker 10: in such good state.
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Speaker 1: Because of the media.
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Speaker 4: And with his frequent appearances on Sky News, Itch also
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Speaker 4: provides ammunition for attacks like this from Chris Kenny.
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Speaker 3: I think the reef has become like polar bears, that
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Speaker 3: the climate alarmist have chosen it as their instrument of
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Speaker 3: fear and doom, and therefore it creates a completely wrong impression. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: on the key point here, of course, we are right.
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Speaker 3: The climate catastrophus keeps saying that polar bears are disappearing
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Speaker 3: when survey show there are more now than ever, and
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Speaker 3: they keep saying that Great Barrier Reef is doomed.
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Speaker 1: But it keeps bouncing.
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Speaker 3: Back all the horrible predictions from ol Gore and Gretaitumburg
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Speaker 3: and all the rest of them turn out to be
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Speaker 3: over the top. So I'm less interested in gloomy predictions
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Speaker 3: and more interested in the science and observed reality. Paul
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Speaker 3: Barry and the ABC want to ignore the reality and
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Speaker 3: preach fear and panic. So let's look at the report
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Speaker 3: that Barry says we should have paid more attention to,
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Speaker 3: and when you strip away the predictions and the posturing,
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Speaker 3: here's what it actually says about the state.
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Speaker 1: Of the reef.
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Speaker 3: It says the current condition of coral reef habitats across
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Speaker 3: the Great Barrier Reef has improved. It goes on to
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Speaker 3: say that with relatively few intense disturbances, it's enabled significant
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Speaker 3: recovery of fast growing corals on many reefs, with mid
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Speaker 3: and offshore reefs faring better than inshore reefs.
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Speaker 1: And it says a number of habitats remain.
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Speaker 3: In good to very good condition overall, including mangroves and islands. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: even that report that he cites is very positive news.
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Speaker 3: Other surveys say the reef is in the best condition
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Speaker 3: it's ever been. But Barry doesn't like good environmental news.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps no one at the ABC does. He wants to
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Speaker 3: use your tax dollars to dull his alarmism.
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Speaker 1: But look at it this way.
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Speaker 4: Two thousand, five hundred reef scientists from all around the
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Speaker 4: world say the Great Barrier Reef is facing mortal threat
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Speaker 4: from climate change. Peter Reid says it's not. And who
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Speaker 4: does the Australian and Sky after Dark prefer to showcase?
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Speaker 3: Well, as I've just shown you, we prefer to show
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Speaker 3: you the reality, the verifiable facts, what is happening now
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Speaker 3: on the reef, because that's important and that can't be
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Speaker 3: fudged or denied. The poor logic of panic merchants like
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Speaker 3: Barry can't be trusted. For instance, check this out.
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Speaker 4: And as we know, the oceans are also warming at
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Speaker 4: an alarming rate, with even News Corp noting four weeks
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Speaker 4: ago at sea temperatures on the reef are now at
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Speaker 4: four hundred year highs. So cause for alarm in that.
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Speaker 1: Well. Paul Barry is alarmed and the ABC is alarmed.
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Speaker 3: But is that logical if the reef waters were that
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Speaker 3: warm four hundred years ago, before Europeans had even seen
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Speaker 3: the reef, and before fossil fuels were even used, and
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Speaker 3: the reef has thrived and survived to be.
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Speaker 1: The spectacle that we know today.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that reassuring? Doesn't that show that the reef can survive?
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Speaker 3: Doesn't it also hint that not all changes in temperature
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Speaker 3: can be blamed on fossil fuels. Poor old Paul Barry,
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Speaker 3: he's not interested in facts or debate or logic. He
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Speaker 3: just wants alarmism. Thankfully for taxpayers. From next year he
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Speaker 3: can indulge his climate hysteria and news corp obsession.
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Speaker 1: On his own coin.
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Speaker 3: Let's now go to Bunderberg and catch up with Nationals
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Speaker 3: MP and former Resources Minister Keith Pitt. Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: Keith well out of left field? What about the ABC?
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Speaker 3: What about this stuff where they're just churning through our
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Speaker 3: tax dollars to pump out their ideological proper game?
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Speaker 6: And Chris, you're absolutely on the money. I heard you editorial.
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Speaker 6: The reefs in really good condition. That's what the reports said.
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Speaker 6: It's what they've said for quite some time. Although I
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Speaker 6: recall correctly it was a miracle. About two weeks after
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Speaker 6: the Albanezi government was elected, said it's all great. The
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Speaker 6: reef is much better than one of the coalition.
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Speaker 1: Ah, that's it. The Green Left saved it. How silly
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Speaker 1: of me not to realize that.
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Speaker 3: Now, let's bring you back to some ugly party politics.
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Speaker 3: You're LMP, of course, but one party of the two
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Speaker 3: coalition parties in Queensland, but the Liberal Party in New
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Speaker 3: South Wales has been in all sorts of strife. Brian
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Speaker 3: Locknane's been running a review of that, and the breaking
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Speaker 3: news this afternoon courtesy of Andrew Clanel, is that the
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Speaker 3: Federal Liberal Party is going to put in a three
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Speaker 3: person panel to effectively administrate run the New South Wales
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party a bit like the CFME MEU. They need administration.
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Speaker 3: Is this a good move to get the party into
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Speaker 3: shape through at least to the federal election?
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Speaker 6: A Chris of the federal Liberal parties, you know, is
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Speaker 6: a top down design. It's run federally. The states are
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Speaker 6: not affiliates. They're the part of the program. But everyone
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Speaker 6: I know that's in politics, that's in political parties. They're
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Speaker 6: there to implement the policies that they support, are the
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Speaker 6: things that they want to see for Australia and for
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Speaker 6: their country. And to do that you have to be
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Speaker 6: in government, and you cannot win government unless the party
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Speaker 6: machine is working hard and pulling in the same direction
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Speaker 6: and made I didn't get into politics to get tied
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Speaker 6: up in factional fights about who may or may not
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Speaker 6: get a position on the executive We are there to
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Speaker 6: win government and we are there to implement the policies
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Speaker 6: of the membership, and that's how I've always seen it.
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Speaker 3: So that's been the problem in New South Wales. Too
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Speaker 3: much factionalism.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, I'm not in the New South Wales Liberal Party.
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Speaker 6: I'll leave those comments to others. But what I know
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Speaker 6: is you can't win without the machine, and you can't
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Speaker 6: win without support, and you can't win without volunteers, and
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Speaker 6: all of those are clearly at risk.
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Speaker 1: And the federal Liberal.
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Speaker 6: Parties made a decision and I'm hopeful it's the right one.
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Speaker 6: What's happened over recent years.
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Speaker 3: Well, I live in New South Wales and I used
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Speaker 3: to work for a New South Wales Liberal politician. Let
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Speaker 3: me answer that one for you. Yes, Chris, it is
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Speaker 3: too much factionalism. It's been running a muck and hopefully
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Speaker 3: the feds can sort it out so they can actually
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Speaker 3: run a decent federal election campaign.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring it back to.
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Speaker 3: An issue that I know you're keenly focused on and
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Speaker 3: that's this gold mine proposed gold mine at Blaney. I
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Speaker 3: want to show you something that Tanya Plipasek said yesterday,
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Speaker 3: and I pointed out how this was a shift in
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Speaker 3: her logic and reasoning behind the banning of the tailings dam.
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Speaker 3: I noticed the Australian picked this up this morning as well.
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Speaker 3: Here she is Tanya plipersecon on Channel seven yesterday.
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Speaker 11: A lot of local farmers who don't want this out
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Speaker 11: in tailings dam built at the headquarters of the river
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Speaker 11: because they are worrying about their sheep and go Chan
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Speaker 11: honey businesses down the river. They're worried about that charactor
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Speaker 11: as well.
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Speaker 3: So, as you know, Keith, the tailings dam was and
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Speaker 3: on the basis of secret Aboriginal cultural information. But now
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Speaker 3: she's talking about the state of the river and environmental
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Speaker 3: concerns even expressed by farmers. Does it look like Camber
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Speaker 3: could have used indigenous issues to get an environmental outcome
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Speaker 3: here even after it won environmental approvals.
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Speaker 6: Well, what Tanya said is just outright can't be true,
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Speaker 6: because otherwise you couldn't use Section ten of the Heritage
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Speaker 6: legislation to make the decision that she did. And let's
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Speaker 6: face facts, here. This company would not have progressed to
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Speaker 6: the point that they are at. They would not have
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Speaker 6: invested millions of dollars and a lot of time to
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Speaker 6: get this over the line if they fought for a
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Speaker 6: second they.
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Speaker 1: Had a problem with Aboriginal heritage.
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Speaker 6: On the proposal, it was approved by the States and
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Speaker 6: they are generally the ones where those approvals come from,
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Speaker 6: and the idea they'd been rubbed out because well, someone
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Speaker 6: had a discussion and they had a feeling and on
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Speaker 6: that basis, the Minister has rubbed out something that's worth
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Speaker 6: up to a thousand jobs and significant money into the
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Speaker 6: local Well, sovereign risk is now running rampant. It's no
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Speaker 6: longer a perception, it's real and that is a problem
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Speaker 6: for Australia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit to go on this issue.
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Speaker 3: I know your leader and the indiged Shadow Indigenous Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister just into Namba, jimper Price are going to be
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Speaker 3: down at Blaney tomorrow, so we'll see what they've got
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Speaker 3: to say down there tomorrow. Thanks for joining us, Keith Pitt.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Now, as I mentioned at the top
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Speaker 3: of the program, President Joe Biden has washed off the
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Speaker 3: sunscreen wrapping up his two week beach holiday to return
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Speaker 3: to work at the White House, and soon after that
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Speaker 3: he headed off to share a campaign stage with Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris in the crucial state of Pennsylvania. The first decision
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Speaker 3: I made the nominee is nominee in twenty twenty was
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Speaker 3: selecting her as my vice president right away.
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Speaker 12: There was a.
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Speaker 3: Single best decision I made as president.
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Speaker 1: In naaed States of America. That's his same old line
20:59
Speaker 1: about Cumalo Harris.
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Speaker 3: Now, as I suggested to Kristen Tite, even though there's
21:02
Speaker 3: plenty of serious issues around, it looks like the president's
21:05
Speaker 3: main job now is to sprook for his vice president.
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Speaker 9: Yes, the country's certainly dealing with serious issues, but the
21:13
Speaker 9: most serious issue.
21:14
Speaker 8: Joe Biden is dealing with is what time he'll go
21:16
Speaker 8: to bed this evening. I mean, he is completely checked out.
21:20
Speaker 9: The media is ignoring him basically, and it's clear that
21:26
Speaker 9: Joe Biden.
21:27
Speaker 8: Is not running the country.
21:28
Speaker 9: I know we've talked about that many times on this show,
21:31
Speaker 9: but I think for the first time, Chris, people who
21:34
Speaker 9: aren't into politics just everyday Americans realize that.
21:39
Speaker 8: And what's the most terrifying.
21:40
Speaker 9: To me is that there's just sort of an apathy
21:43
Speaker 9: around that idea. It seems like many American voters just
21:47
Speaker 9: kind of don't care that we don't really have anyone
21:50
Speaker 9: at the helm right now. But yeah, the press is
21:53
Speaker 9: just completely focused on Kambala and building her up and
21:56
Speaker 9: reintroducing her to voters as this exciting new figure, and
22:01
Speaker 9: unfortunately many voters, moderate ones than those who tend to
22:05
Speaker 9: skew to the left, are really eating it up.
22:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, of course they shared a stage together in the
22:10
Speaker 3: crucial swing state of Pennsylvania.
22:13
Speaker 1: And look what I couldn't believe.
22:15
Speaker 3: I kind of love this and I love it and
22:18
Speaker 3: that is my favorite phrase, this ridiculous line that Kambala
22:22
Speaker 3: has gone on about forever in an embarrassing why well,
22:27
Speaker 3: she resorted to that again, have.
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Speaker 1: A look, we have dreams, we can see what is possible,
22:35
Speaker 1: unburdened by what has been there.
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Speaker 3: We are, Kristen, We're still unburdened by what has been.
22:44
Speaker 8: More deep thoughts with Kamala Harris. I mean, that.
22:47
Speaker 9: Line has become a meme, and she still can't restrain
22:50
Speaker 9: herself from saying it.
22:51
Speaker 8: She just can't help herself. But this is a woman that.
22:54
Speaker 9: Is completely incapable of speaking off the cough.
22:57
Speaker 8: For answering any real questions.
23:00
Speaker 9: Is a figure built on cliches and word salads. And
23:04
Speaker 9: that is going to be the challenge for her handlers
23:07
Speaker 9: leading into November, is can they get through without her
23:11
Speaker 9: really showing any substance and just spouting off these strange
23:16
Speaker 9: bumper sticker shay sayings like the unburdened thing? And they
23:20
Speaker 9: might just pull it off, Chris, because that's the wiry
23:23
Speaker 9: long now, before people start, before they start casting their boats.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's exactly the worry. It is just nonsense. It
23:30
Speaker 3: is pifull is wood sellads.
23:32
Speaker 1: Here's that, mame. He's a little refresher of how often
23:35
Speaker 1: she said this. I can imagine what can be and
23:38
Speaker 1: be unburdened by what has been.
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Speaker 11: You know, what can be unburdened.
23:43
Speaker 1: By what has been?
23:44
Speaker 13: What can be unburdened by what has been?
23:49
Speaker 14: What can be unburdened by what has been?
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Speaker 11: What can be unburdened.
23:56
Speaker 8: By what has been?
23:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I just have to remark myself, I'm not
24:01
Speaker 3: watching Veep.
24:02
Speaker 1: I'm actually watching real life. It's an extraordinary to watch.
24:05
Speaker 3: I want to go to another clip from this Pennsylvania
24:07
Speaker 3: appearance though, because this is the sort of a the
24:10
Speaker 3: ugly side of what's unfolding. Some will say it's justice,
24:14
Speaker 3: but just look at the way this unfolds.
24:16
Speaker 1: There's a sort of a sinister laughed here, and it's
24:18
Speaker 1: just a reminder there's a lot happening.
24:20
Speaker 3: When it comes to the judicial system when it comes
24:23
Speaker 3: to this election as well. When someone in the crowd
24:26
Speaker 3: yells out to Kamala that Trump will be in jail
24:29
Speaker 3: by the time the election runs around.
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Speaker 13: So, well, the court will handle that, and we will
24:37
Speaker 13: handle November.
24:43
Speaker 1: Well, I handle November. Let the court handle out another chance.
24:47
Speaker 8: But we're not going about it.
24:49
Speaker 3: It still seems to be the great hope of the
24:51
Speaker 3: Democrats Christen that Donald Trump will be imprisoned.
24:56
Speaker 9: Yeah, and these are the seam laptists who are clutching
24:59
Speaker 9: their pearls. When Donald Trump had his supporters chanting lock
25:03
Speaker 9: her up regarding Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, and remember
25:07
Speaker 9: Hillary Clinton actually committed serious crimes and got away with them.
25:11
Speaker 8: Trump didn't commit any crimes.
25:13
Speaker 9: I mean, he's facing totally phony, trumped up charges. But
25:17
Speaker 9: the Left is going after him anyways, because as we've
25:19
Speaker 9: as we've discussed and as many Americans now realize we
25:24
Speaker 9: have a completely impartial justice system in this country, and
25:29
Speaker 9: she's part of that.
25:31
Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned, of course that Kamala Harris answers no questions
25:34
Speaker 3: as CNN interview was a joke, but her running my
25:38
Speaker 3: Tim Wolls isn't doing any better. He took a couple
25:41
Speaker 3: of folksy questions at an event yesterday, but the first
25:45
Speaker 3: time he was asked a serious question, he ran for Cava.
25:48
Speaker 15: Have a look, thanks everybody.
25:57
Speaker 3: Six hostages murdered, one of them in America and Citi
26:00
Speaker 3: City just wives and walks off.
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Speaker 8: Well, this isn't surprising at all.
26:03
Speaker 9: This is a campaign built on vibes, the campaign of joy.
26:08
Speaker 9: They don't want to discuss any actual issues or policies
26:11
Speaker 9: because that's when they lose. That's what this election all
26:15
Speaker 9: comes down to. If Donald Trump can make this election
26:18
Speaker 9: a referendum on the Joe Biden administration and how life
26:22
Speaker 9: has gotten worse under that administration, Kamala will lose landslide.
26:26
Speaker 9: But if the Left can can succeed at just making
26:29
Speaker 9: this an election about personalities and feeling good and bumper
26:34
Speaker 9: stickers and Kamala Harris like Dorito's and all the stuff,
26:38
Speaker 9: they're doing. Then, yeah, they then they might win. And
26:42
Speaker 9: that's exactly why.
26:43
Speaker 8: Tim Kaine, what are Tim Kaine's.
26:45
Speaker 9: That's exactly why Tim Walt won't answer these questions because
26:49
Speaker 9: they don't want to.
26:50
Speaker 8: They don't want to discuss any policies.
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Speaker 3: Well a cow whit to catch up with your next way, Kristen,
26:54
Speaker 3: because that's the way for the debates. We'll see if
26:57
Speaker 3: that shake things up a little bit, we'll talk to
26:59
Speaker 3: you next week.
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Speaker 8: Sounds great, Chris.
27:02
Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to it and praying that that debate
27:04
Speaker 9: actually happens.
27:05
Speaker 8: Let's how calmly it doesn't back out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the debate's scheduled for Wednesday morning, our time, so
27:12
Speaker 3: we'll be talking about it here on the program next
27:14
Speaker 3: Wednesday night. Now, coming up my panel with Amanda Rose
27:18
Speaker 3: and Stephen Senate Tiempe.
27:19
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how there's been.
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Speaker 3: A surge in teacher compensation claims tied to student violence
27:25
Speaker 3: and also labor being blamed for more than two hundred
27:27
Speaker 3: and ninety three thousand working days lost to strikes. All right,
27:38
Speaker 3: let's ride through a few issues with Amanda Rose from
27:40
Speaker 3: small business Women in Australia here on the desk with
27:43
Speaker 3: me and Stephen Senate Tiempai, breakfast radio host at two
27:46
Speaker 3: double C and camera joining us.
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Speaker 1: From the nation's capital.
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Speaker 3: Let's get straight into industrial relations with these figures showing
27:52
Speaker 3: two hundred and ninety three thousand working days have been
27:55
Speaker 3: lost since labor came to power in Canberra. You talk
27:59
Speaker 3: about problem with this economy, that's one right. There isn't
28:02
Speaker 3: a amanda or a lack of productivity.
28:04
Speaker 15: It is and that's just one component of it. So
28:06
Speaker 15: that's industrial action. Don't forget there's all the other factors
28:10
Speaker 15: that this legislation, all their pieces of legislation have impacted
28:13
Speaker 15: the small business community. They're closing down, so there's no
28:17
Speaker 15: action when people are actually closing down. So small business
28:20
Speaker 15: closing down, unemployment is going uh. Plus, you've got the
28:24
Speaker 15: I would say, the medium sized businesses that are hanging
28:26
Speaker 15: on by a thread, like in the construction world, and
28:28
Speaker 15: if they can't work day by day, that slows down
28:32
Speaker 15: the process. But people forget the supply chain as well.
28:35
Speaker 15: So even if there's industrial action of a large company
28:37
Speaker 15: because of unions and so forth, the supply chain gets
28:41
Speaker 15: impacted and they're the small business owners, the tradees that
28:44
Speaker 15: don't get to work cannot feed.
28:45
Speaker 1: Their family, often not unionized, and they pay a price
28:48
Speaker 1: for it. I don't want anyone's surprised.
28:50
Speaker 3: Is what you get when you have labor governments, with
28:52
Speaker 3: your rare exceptions, maybe the early year hooky is, but
28:55
Speaker 3: this is what you get when you put labor in power.
28:57
Speaker 1: Stephen, just talk about the other side of the aisle though, because.
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Speaker 3: I'm certain you'll have some thoughts on the New South
29:02
Speaker 3: Wales Liberals. There've been an absolute basket case of course
29:05
Speaker 3: for some time. It all came to a head when
29:08
Speaker 3: they forgot to enroll half of their candidates for the
29:10
Speaker 3: local government elections. As expect that Brian Locke, named the
29:14
Speaker 3: former federal director, was reviewing the party at the behest
29:17
Speaker 3: of Peter Dutton. As expected. They're putting someone in to
29:21
Speaker 3: run the show. I thought they might put Brian himself
29:24
Speaker 3: in or just one person. It looks like a triumvirate
29:27
Speaker 3: to run the show essentially, that is to make sure
29:30
Speaker 3: it's functioning properly through the federal election, isn't it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Look, the problem with this is, Chris, is that the
29:37
Speaker 14: New Sowell Liberals party has always been riven by factionalism
29:40
Speaker 14: and there are two sub factions within the party that
29:43
Speaker 14: have always been in the opinion, we don't actually care
29:45
Speaker 14: if we win elections as long as we control the
29:47
Speaker 14: Liberal Party, which is problematic for a political party, as
29:49
Speaker 14: you can mag it. But this is not the first
29:51
Speaker 14: time this happened. John Howard did this in two thousand
29:54
Speaker 14: and put Tony Staley in. He righted the ship for
29:57
Speaker 14: about four years, and then it just collapsed into the
29:59
Speaker 14: same sort of meat again. So whilst I applaud this,
30:01
Speaker 14: and I think Bryan Long knows the best person to
30:03
Speaker 14: be overlooking seeing it all, I don't have any long
30:07
Speaker 14: term hope for any real change because as soon as
30:10
Speaker 14: the federal intervention's over in ten months time, the factional
30:13
Speaker 14: warlords are still there and they go back to their
30:15
Speaker 14: positions of power.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
30:17
Speaker 1: No, I agree with that. That's the trouble to get.
30:19
Speaker 3: They're going to run a decent federal election campaign, but
30:21
Speaker 3: this sort of stuff is embedded, Amanda, you know this stuff.
30:24
Speaker 1: The problem is probably with both political parties.
30:26
Speaker 3: The biggest problem is you don't have enough normal people joining,
30:30
Speaker 3: so the only people who join their Liberal Party are
30:32
Speaker 3: all these weird sort of university politics infected people.
30:36
Speaker 1: You just want to keep playing the games. Even through
30:38
Speaker 1: it all, they're in the grave.
30:40
Speaker 8: That's right.
30:40
Speaker 15: I think you've got a mix of people. I think
30:42
Speaker 15: you've got those who are genuinely wanting to make a change,
30:44
Speaker 15: and they're young and they've got energy, but they're controlled.
30:47
Speaker 8: Both people who want power.
30:48
Speaker 15: So unfortunately politics attracts people that just want to be worshiped.
30:54
Speaker 15: They want power, they want to make decisions, and they
30:56
Speaker 15: will spend so much of their time fighting and doing
31:00
Speaker 15: and backstabbing to make sure they remain in power.
31:02
Speaker 3: But you know you support small business, you advocate the
31:06
Speaker 3: small business.
31:07
Speaker 1: The small business needs a Liberal party that is really
31:10
Speaker 1: focused on small business.
31:11
Speaker 3: Small business people all need to be joining their local
31:14
Speaker 3: branch and.
31:15
Speaker 1: Being involved in party business. But of course small business
31:19
Speaker 1: people haven't got the time to do that.
31:20
Speaker 15: But what is incentivizing the small business owner to do that?
31:24
Speaker 15: Right now?
31:24
Speaker 8: With a Liberal Party?
31:25
Speaker 15: Where are their small business policy that will ignite the
31:29
Speaker 15: small business community. They need to know that the Liberal
31:32
Speaker 15: Party would give them a solution over labor. Party at
31:35
Speaker 15: the moment rules are winging to labor, but no solutions.
31:38
Speaker 1: It's a bit of chicken and egg.
31:39
Speaker 3: But I take your point now, Steve, and I want
31:41
Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on the discussion about gambling advertising reforms. Now,
31:45
Speaker 3: I'm no big fan of gambling, and I kind of
31:47
Speaker 3: hate the way it intrudes on my sports viewing with kids.
31:50
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm big enough and ugly enough to deal
31:52
Speaker 3: with it, but I hate kids being having odds and
31:55
Speaker 3: stuff pushed down their throat when they just want to
31:57
Speaker 3: watch their favorite team. So some saw of change I
32:01
Speaker 3: think is a good idea. But I always think this
32:04
Speaker 3: is a cop out from politicians. They want to pretend
32:06
Speaker 3: they're doing something, so they've been advertising, so it actually
32:09
Speaker 3: hurt commercial media like this rather than regulating something or
32:14
Speaker 3: tackling it. So you have all these legal industries like
32:17
Speaker 3: tobacco and gambling and alcohol, and they reckon.
32:20
Speaker 1: Even soft drinks and whatever.
32:21
Speaker 3: There's always a push to attack the advertising rather than
32:24
Speaker 3: to attack the issues.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right.
32:28
Speaker 14: I've always been of the viewer that if a product
32:30
Speaker 14: is legal, it should be able to be advertised. But
32:32
Speaker 14: I've spoken to a number of experts on this, and
32:34
Speaker 14: particularly child psychologists, who say that the advertising is really
32:38
Speaker 14: having an impact when it comes to the gambling. And
32:40
Speaker 14: I'm like you, I mean, I might have a punt
32:42
Speaker 14: on the Melbourne Cup and that's about it. But it
32:46
Speaker 14: just it seems to be so invasive in sport now.
32:49
Speaker 14: You can't watch a footy game without seeing a dozen
32:51
Speaker 14: ads pop up with relation to some sort of special
32:55
Speaker 14: multi bet where you know, somebody some trips over his
32:58
Speaker 14: left boot you can win thirty dollars or whatever. But
33:01
Speaker 14: the problem is governments between a rock and a hard
33:03
Speaker 14: place here, because the gambling lobby is very very strong,
33:06
Speaker 14: the sporting lobby is very very strong, and they need
33:08
Speaker 14: the gambling revenue to survive. But then you've got the
33:11
Speaker 14: community impact and they always want to be half pregnant
33:14
Speaker 14: on it. So we've seen tinkering around the edges when
33:18
Speaker 14: most of the experts say we need a complete.
33:20
Speaker 1: Ban on this. Yeah, I.
33:24
Speaker 3: Think it's an easy way out to attack the advertised
33:25
Speaker 3: they're going to do something, But it's.
33:27
Speaker 1: An easy way out.
33:28
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on something else around
33:30
Speaker 3: to this news out of Victoria about fifty million dollars
33:33
Speaker 3: being paid to teachers who are either suffering violence or
33:38
Speaker 3: psychological abuse in the classroom. So it sounds like the
33:42
Speaker 3: problem with discipline in the classroom cuts both ways. That
33:45
Speaker 3: affects student out comes, of course, but a lot of
33:47
Speaker 3: teachers suffering as well hardly helps you recruit a lot
33:50
Speaker 3: more teachers too.
33:51
Speaker 11: No, it doesn't.
33:52
Speaker 15: And I really feel for teachers absolutely everywhere. They do
33:56
Speaker 15: one of the most important jobs outside of a mother,
33:58
Speaker 15: right helping raising your children. And you can't do anything.
34:03
Speaker 15: I speak to teachers all the time, I say, we
34:04
Speaker 15: can't say anything, we can't pull them up, we can't
34:07
Speaker 15: punish them. You know, back in the day, if I
34:09
Speaker 15: did anything wrong in the classroom, I was gone. I
34:12
Speaker 15: mean I was back in the day when that's actually
34:15
Speaker 15: smack you on the hand for doing something wrong, but
34:17
Speaker 15: you're pulled out of the environment if you did something wrong.
34:19
Speaker 15: These days, they've got to talk to them, see how
34:22
Speaker 15: they feel. And they're throwing knives at them, they're throwing
34:24
Speaker 15: chairs at them. This is appalling. So unless they're going
34:27
Speaker 15: to provide security guards or at each individual classroom, teachers
34:32
Speaker 15: will die off. Then what we do with our children,
34:33
Speaker 15: we'll have a whole generation of people uneducated.
34:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to be done in this space, Steve.
34:39
Speaker 3: But one of the things that and amount is touching
34:41
Speaker 3: on it there too. I just think autonomy. Teachers need
34:44
Speaker 3: to have autonomy to run their own classroom the way
34:46
Speaker 3: they need to, and.
34:47
Speaker 1: Individual schools need to have their own rules as well.
34:50
Speaker 1: But the more you have blanket.
34:51
Speaker 3: Rules and systems in place, the less authority they have.
34:56
Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's a multi facinating problem. I mean I
34:59
Speaker 14: saw a survey I interviewed somebody about this a couple
35:01
Speaker 14: of weeks ago. Apparently seventy five percent of teachers say
35:04
Speaker 14: they don't feel safe at work, which is problematic in
35:07
Speaker 14: and of itself, but it's societal problem that needs to
35:10
Speaker 14: be fixed on so many levels. I mean, parents start
35:13
Speaker 14: and need to start teaching their kids manners again, that's
35:15
Speaker 14: a good start. We also need to introduce discipline back
35:18
Speaker 14: into the classroom and give teachers a little bit more.
35:20
Speaker 1: Control over their classroom.
35:22
Speaker 14: But we also need to be equipping teachers to do
35:24
Speaker 14: their job properly, which we're not doing at the moment.
35:26
Speaker 14: So they probably feel marginalized to start with because they say, well,
35:29
Speaker 14: I'm sitting here doing a job that I don't really
35:31
Speaker 14: know how to do properly. The educational outcomes are clearly
35:34
Speaker 14: not there. There are so many things that need to
35:37
Speaker 14: be fixed here, and there's no silver bullet that's going
35:38
Speaker 14: to do it.
35:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need some decent governments, decent state governments in
35:42
Speaker 3: particular to tackle it. Thanks for joining us, Amanda and
35:45
Speaker 3: Steven appreciate it. We've better move on and take a break.
35:48
Speaker 3: On the other side, they're going to catch up with
35:49
Speaker 3: a shadow immigration MI us to Dan Tin to talk
35:51
Speaker 3: about the AZO boss changing his tune now thankfully saying
35:55
Speaker 3: that Hamas supporters are not welcome in this country. Let's
36:04
Speaker 3: get back to this national security and immigration issue where
36:07
Speaker 3: the ASO boss Mike Burgess has corrected what he said
36:11
Speaker 3: more than three weeks ago when he said that HUMMAS
36:13
Speaker 3: supporters would be allowed into Australia as long as their
36:16
Speaker 3: support of Hummas was only rhetorical. Well, he's clarified that
36:19
Speaker 3: in statements to the ABC by saying, if you think
36:23
Speaker 3: terrorism is okay, if you think the destruction of the
36:27
Speaker 3: state of Israel is okay, if you think Hummas and
36:30
Speaker 3: what they did on the seventh of October is okay,
36:32
Speaker 3: I can tell you that is not okay and from
36:35
Speaker 3: an ASIO security assessment point of.
36:37
Speaker 1: View, you will not pass MUSTER.
36:40
Speaker 3: Now, that's very good that Mike Burgess has clarified that
36:43
Speaker 3: that is the position that should have been obvious from
36:46
Speaker 3: the start. That is the position that the Prime Minister
36:49
Speaker 3: should have made clear as soon as this controversy.
36:52
Speaker 1: Arose more than three weeks ago.
36:53
Speaker 3: Instead, he's been like a rabbit in the spotlight, and
36:56
Speaker 3: today he tried to make it all about party politics.
37:01
Speaker 7: The only person who's been critical of the AGO Director
37:04
Speaker 7: General is Peter Dutton. What we've done is support our
37:09
Speaker 7: security agencies, applaud the work that they do.
37:14
Speaker 3: Let me bring in the shadow Immigration Minister Dan Ty
37:16
Speaker 3: now joins us from Western Victoria.
37:18
Speaker 1: Good to speak to you. Dan. I'm confused here.
37:20
Speaker 3: I'm not confused, actually, I'm just flabbergasted that Albanezi is
37:25
Speaker 3: trying to say the Coalition was criticizing Mike Burgess because
37:29
Speaker 3: you were very clear and everything.
37:30
Speaker 1: You said not to be critical of him.
37:32
Speaker 3: You were critical that the Prime Minister was not making
37:36
Speaker 3: it clear that Humas supporters should be blocked from this country.
37:42
Speaker 10: Couldn't agree more, Chris, And we still haven't heard from
37:45
Speaker 10: the Prime Minister directly looking down the barrel of a
37:49
Speaker 10: camera saying that because he needs to. You'll remember in
37:55
Speaker 10: the Parliament the last time we sat the very two
37:58
Speaker 10: last questions that we are asked him, Julian Lisa asking
38:02
Speaker 10: these questions, and he was asked twice because he didn't
38:05
Speaker 10: give an answer to the first one, and then he
38:07
Speaker 10: didn't give an answer ultimately to the second one.
38:10
Speaker 1: He was asked.
38:11
Speaker 10: Should Hamas supporters be allowed into this country? And he
38:15
Speaker 10: couldn't give a direct answer. So what we still need
38:19
Speaker 10: to hear from the Prime Minister is for him to
38:22
Speaker 10: say that he needs to back in Mike Burgers and
38:26
Speaker 10: say those words clearly so that the Australian people understand
38:31
Speaker 10: where the Prime Minister this country stands, because at the moment,
38:34
Speaker 10: as you've said, all we've heard is weasel words, ducking
38:39
Speaker 10: and weaving and what amounts to nothing more than just
38:43
Speaker 10: a weak tempered response on this issue from our Prime
38:47
Speaker 10: minister when you've got to remember what we're asking him
38:50
Speaker 10: about is support for a listed terrorist organization.
38:54
Speaker 3: Now, you're absolutely right and this needs to be pursued
38:57
Speaker 3: with the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 1: And this is more than a matter of retoric, if
39:02
Speaker 1: you'll pardon the pun.
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Speaker 3: Because what the AZO bosses outlined is confirmed that if
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Speaker 3: someone comes to them, if someone is brought to their
39:10
Speaker 3: attention for a security assessment, then then they would deem
39:14
Speaker 3: support for humas as a disqualification as a reason to
39:17
Speaker 3: block them from entering Australia. But of course not everybody
39:20
Speaker 3: is referred for a security check. So what you need
39:23
Speaker 3: to confirm from the Prime Minister is that on character grounds,
39:27
Speaker 3: on a visa application, that on character grounds, the government
39:31
Speaker 3: would always reject somebody if they offered any sort of
39:34
Speaker 3: support for any terrorist group.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, that is what we need to hear from the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister. And we also need to hear from the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister that everyone who has come to this country
39:49
Speaker 10: since October seven who has had a character assessment, that
39:55
Speaker 10: they have been asked that question. Because we don't know
40:00
Speaker 10: exactly how those security checks have taken place. We don't
40:04
Speaker 10: know whether everyone has been referred. We now know that
40:07
Speaker 10: over half the people who have come here on tourist
40:10
Speaker 10: visas we knew this would happen, have now claimed asylum.
40:14
Speaker 10: So the Prime Minister needs to front up and say
40:17
Speaker 10: how many of these people who have come to Australia,
40:21
Speaker 10: those who have claimed asylum, those who probably will down
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Speaker 10: the track, how many of those have had that character assessment,
40:28
Speaker 10: and how many of them were asked that specific question,
40:32
Speaker 10: And he should also tell us those who have responded
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Speaker 10: that they do support of us who have had their
40:38
Speaker 10: visas canceled.
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Speaker 3: So now you'll be pursuing this when Parliament resumes next week.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, we want clear answers from the Prime Minister on this.
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Speaker 10: It's absolutely unforgivable on national security grounds, on the grounds
40:57
Speaker 10: that is the number one priority of a government and
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Speaker 10: keeping the Australian community safe. The Prime Minister will not
41:04
Speaker 10: give the Australian people a direct answer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be no ambiguity to do that. Thanks
41:09
Speaker 3: for joining us, appreciate it. Dantee and their Live from
41:12
Speaker 3: Western Victoria, Hamilton. I think it is now I want to.
41:16
Speaker 1: Go to another issue here, and I'm wondering.
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Speaker 3: If, like me, you've been a little confused in recent
41:20
Speaker 3: years as the term gas lighting has become ever more
41:24
Speaker 3: common in our political debate.
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Speaker 1: Gaslighting this and gas lighting that. But what does it
41:30
Speaker 1: actually mean now?
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Speaker 3: Supposedly it means that you're trying to make someone else
41:34
Speaker 3: lose their grip or question themselves. You're trying to make
41:38
Speaker 3: them think that they're the ones who are crazy.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, you could say gas lighting us for just an
41:44
Speaker 4: example of the government gas lighting it.
41:46
Speaker 14: And not only gas lighting the Parliament, but gas lighting
41:48
Speaker 14: the nation.
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Speaker 12: Why is the government gaslighting us?
41:51
Speaker 1: We have the Prime Minister for gas lighting Australia.
41:54
Speaker 11: Absolutely typical gas lighting response.
41:59
Speaker 1: Now, who knows if they're using it correctly?
42:01
Speaker 3: Anyway, The term itself comes from a British play called Gaslight,
42:05
Speaker 3: which became an American film of the same name, and
42:09
Speaker 3: an Australian production is now playing in Sydney, so let's
42:12
Speaker 3: get the low down. Joining us is Toby Smith's who
42:14
Speaker 3: plays Jack Manningham. The marketing material says that great to
42:19
Speaker 3: see it.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Toby.
42:21
Speaker 3: I was going to mention that, Nola Chris I noticed
42:24
Speaker 3: the marketing material for your plays Madness or Manipulation.
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Speaker 1: Can you explain the plot to us and that concept.
42:35
Speaker 2: It's in the classic form of like a Hitchcock. Essentially,
42:40
Speaker 2: it's a late thirties player that's been updated recently to
42:43
Speaker 2: give it, you know, more of a modern band, but
42:46
Speaker 2: you know it's got all the thrills and kind of
42:49
Speaker 2: intrigues of a yeah, of, like I said, a late
42:52
Speaker 2: thirties Hitchcock. But it's also set, as you might be
42:55
Speaker 2: able to see in the set behind us, like in
42:58
Speaker 2: the late Victorian era, So it's got to be the
43:00
Speaker 2: gothic thriller to it, maybe a bit of supernatural, plus
43:04
Speaker 2: the sort of the noir of the thirties. So yeah,
43:06
Speaker 2: it's got all sorts of like messing with your mind
43:09
Speaker 2: or different types of gaslighting.
43:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the husband in this case is messing with
43:14
Speaker 3: the mind of his wife and trying to get her
43:17
Speaker 3: to question her own sanity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. The clues in the title.
43:23
Speaker 2: When the play originally was on the stage in the thirties,
43:27
Speaker 2: no one knew what the phrase meant. Now they do.
43:30
Speaker 2: So we have to work extra hard in this production to,
43:34
Speaker 2: you know, to pull the rug from the audience his feet.
43:38
Speaker 2: But it does a good job of it. And also
43:43
Speaker 2: the gas lighting in a sense like is like you
43:47
Speaker 2: said in your little intro, it is about sort of
43:50
Speaker 2: you're destabilizing him. I think that's what the theater does.
43:53
Speaker 2: It's kind of a big lie. Anyway. Everyone walks in,
43:56
Speaker 2: pays their money, sits down and watches something and suspends disbelief.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're painful. We expect you to, We expect
44:04
Speaker 1: you to mess with our minds.
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Speaker 3: But one of the intriguing things about this is, as
44:09
Speaker 3: I understand it that the actual phrase gaslight or gaslighting
44:13
Speaker 3: doesn't appear in the dialogue.
44:15
Speaker 1: It's only in the title of the play. Is that right?
44:19
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, the word itself doesn't, but there are
44:23
Speaker 2: the words gas and the words light and maybe even
44:26
Speaker 2: gas lits and light the gas. But you're right. The
44:30
Speaker 2: origin of the phrase that we know it and I
44:32
Speaker 2: think Miriam Webster Dictionary only a few years ago had
44:35
Speaker 2: had it as their word of the year. It's been
44:38
Speaker 2: you know, heaps trumped out, trumpet it out over the
44:42
Speaker 2: last few years. But it originated with this play, and
44:46
Speaker 2: it's because one of the tricks in the play involves
44:49
Speaker 2: actual gaslight. One of the maids comes in in this
44:52
Speaker 2: play and turns the light on and off, and in
44:55
Speaker 2: the Victorian era with gaslight, it's kind of a plot
44:58
Speaker 2: point about the light going down.
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Speaker 1: There's the origins.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Toby, break a leg and we can't
45:05
Speaker 3: wait to catch it. Toby Schmids there, who's playing in
45:08
Speaker 3: gas Light? It said the ross Packer Theater, a Sydney
45:11
Speaker 3: theater company, still going right through to the weekend. I understand,
45:14
Speaker 3: get your tickets now. After the break he's back. The
45:18
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph's Tim Blair. He's going to shed some light
45:23
Speaker 3: on why it's never been a better time to be
45:25
Speaker 3: an energy lawyer, and one Tesla driver in Melbourne gets
45:29
Speaker 3: inventive with their charging setup. Well, the great Man is
45:38
Speaker 3: back in Australia. The Daily Telegraph columnist Tim Blair joins
45:42
Speaker 3: us from Western Victoria, the hub of the station, the
45:45
Speaker 3: hub of the program tonight, the Wimer area of the
45:48
Speaker 3: Western Victoria.
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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again, Tim.
45:51
Speaker 3: I know you've been on a big road trip around
45:54
Speaker 3: the US, as you'll want to do, and I I
45:56
Speaker 3: love to do the few times I've been able.
45:58
Speaker 1: To do it myself. About what you found as you
46:02
Speaker 1: drive across the States in the lead up of this
46:04
Speaker 1: election year.
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Speaker 12: Well as usual, Excuse me, because there's a massive disconnect
46:10
Speaker 12: between what we read in the US media and what
46:12
Speaker 12: we actually see when we go and visit Americans in
46:15
Speaker 12: their own country. When the media talks about a divided country, well,
46:20
Speaker 12: the divisions between them and the people they're reporting to
46:22
Speaker 12: and the people they're covering. It's an extraordinary thing. And
46:26
Speaker 12: probably the most dramatic example of it is that you know,
46:29
Speaker 12: as you're aware, as anyone's aware who's ever had any
46:32
Speaker 12: involvement with the American media, even on the fringes of it.
46:35
Speaker 12: The American media is a gigantic, massive monolith. So to
46:39
Speaker 12: watch them getting everything wrong with Kamala Harris and that
46:42
Speaker 12: whole campaign is hilarious. It's gigantic, and it's got to fail.
46:47
Speaker 3: Well, we can see the rails runs she's being given,
46:50
Speaker 3: the lack of scrutiny, the adulation from so much of
46:52
Speaker 3: the media. You reckon, that's not cutting through when it
46:55
Speaker 3: comes down to main street.
46:59
Speaker 12: I don't think it is, especially in some of the
47:00
Speaker 12: swing states. Georgia was a particular example, where the mood
47:05
Speaker 12: on the street, if we could call it, that is
47:07
Speaker 12: definitely not pro Harris. So let's see how things evolved.
47:11
Speaker 12: It's quite a way to go. But you know, to
47:13
Speaker 12: this point, Harris is only given, notably one interview to
47:16
Speaker 12: this gigantic, monstrous apparatus that supports her. She's only spoken
47:21
Speaker 12: to them once. This is a big story.
47:24
Speaker 3: That's the hardest thing for us to get our heads around,
47:26
Speaker 3: isn't it. How an aspirant like her can hide from
47:29
Speaker 3: the media so effectively, And the fact that the media
47:32
Speaker 3: aren't sort of banging down her door to get to it.
47:35
Speaker 1: They just allow her to and it's not just her.
47:38
Speaker 3: Of course, Biden did it last time around with his
47:40
Speaker 3: whole basement strategy. Their media, as big as it is,
47:43
Speaker 3: allows people to escape scrutiny. You know, it wouldn't wash
47:47
Speaker 3: in Australia. We've got all sorts of faults here with
47:49
Speaker 3: our media, but they usually demand that the politicians front
47:53
Speaker 3: every now and then.
47:54
Speaker 12: Yes, I mean we saw in the last election at
47:57
Speaker 12: the Albanezy making terrible errors you awful routine sort of
48:03
Speaker 12: mistakes about Australia's a various economic sort of circumstances in
48:06
Speaker 12: his first press conference of the campaign, and to his credit,
48:10
Speaker 12: he rebounded and he kept doing press conferences. It's what
48:13
Speaker 12: you do in Australia. But as you mentioned, Chris, the
48:17
Speaker 12: media sort of letting Leady Kamala Harris get away with
48:20
Speaker 12: this quiet policy. It's actually worse than that. Some of
48:23
Speaker 12: them are cheering her for it. They're saying, well, it's
48:25
Speaker 12: good for her that she's not talking to us. It's
48:27
Speaker 12: a successful policy. They're literally writing these and saying these things.
48:31
Speaker 12: They're reporting it as though they're not part of the process.
48:35
Speaker 12: It's amazing and like I said, We've got a long
48:38
Speaker 12: way to go for this campaign still. Now, it could
48:40
Speaker 12: get even worse. Mate, it could get even worse.
48:42
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it.
48:43
Speaker 3: I just want to show you that there's always been
48:45
Speaker 3: that disconnect, certainly with the green left media and the
48:47
Speaker 3: mainstream in Australia. But we showed last week how on
48:50
Speaker 3: Q and A someone actually led a sort of conservative
48:52
Speaker 3: question through from the audience, and it happened again last night.
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Speaker 12: Haven't looked.
48:57
Speaker 13: I'm deeply concerned about the far left shift in our country,
49:04
Speaker 13: with public schools pushing a walk mindset, a surgeon immigration
49:09
Speaker 13: of all sorts, walkness in climate policies, with the skyrocketing prices.
49:16
Speaker 13: So my question is how long before Australia becomes unrecognizable
49:22
Speaker 13: from what it has been?
49:25
Speaker 1: Yeah?
49:25
Speaker 3: Three cheers for that blug But I bet about three
49:28
Speaker 3: producers have been sacked for letting him in.
49:32
Speaker 12: Well, just just a quiet memory to Kim Williams, who
49:34
Speaker 12: I know is probably watching. There's your next Q and
49:39
Speaker 12: A host mate right there. If you want to live
49:41
Speaker 12: up to you live up to your word. I'll sign
49:43
Speaker 12: that blow up and put him in the proper chair
49:44
Speaker 12: instead of in the crowd.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sign him up now.
49:47
Speaker 3: I've just we're nearly out of time, but I want
49:49
Speaker 3: to show you a picture from Melbourne. You love this,
49:51
Speaker 3: You love the electric vehicle. This is the you know,
49:54
Speaker 3: so many people having to run electric cords out to
49:57
Speaker 3: their vehicles on the street. This plug has used a
49:59
Speaker 3: giant fishing rod, just fantastic.
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Speaker 1: Keeps it out of everybody's way.
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Speaker 12: Why is it, Chris, that so much of the future
50:09
Speaker 12: looks like the Third World? Why do you think that
50:13
Speaker 12: is really? Because seriously, do you think the guy in
50:16
Speaker 12: Thailand or Taiwan, or whoever was making that fishing rod
50:19
Speaker 12: thought it was destined for a Melbourne living electricity to
50:24
Speaker 12: a one hundred and twenty thousand dollars bunch of jump.
50:27
Speaker 1: See elated Tim.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining a small catcher later on. That's all
50:31
Speaker 3: the time we goffee. I think he caught himself a
50:33
Speaker 3: y model.
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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow.