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- 0:00Trans people. Trans people belong here.
- 0:02We need trans people. We love trans people.
- 0:05Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
- 0:08We love trans people. Trans people belong here.
- 0:11We need trans people. We love trans people.
- 0:14Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
- 0:17We love trans people. Trans people belong here.
- 0:20We need trans people. We love trans people.
- 0:23Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
- 0:26We love trans people. Trans people belong here.
- 0:30We need trans people. We love trans people.
- 0:32Trans people belong here. We need trans people.
- 0:35We love trans people. You matter, you matter.
- 0:41And I am fighting for you and I will not stop.
- 0:46I will not stop today, I will not stop tomorrow.
- 0:50You are loved, you matter, you belong here.
- 0:59Angry. Go out, buy a gun.
- 1:03It's OK to be angry, Look. At my face now.
- 1:10If you try to stop me from going into a woman's bathroom.
- 1:13Excuse me, it's. Ma'am.
- 1:14Be the last mistake you ever make.
- 1:16It is, ma'am. Find that anger, harness it to
- 1:22do good in the world. This anger, anger is probably my
- 1:40primary source of motivation for everything that I do.
- 1:49Cut that out now or you'll go home in an ambulance it.
- 1:53Was a call to action or call to arms.
- 2:03Don't be afraid to show your anger.
- 2:13Robin Westman, the 23 year old transgender Minneapolis shooter
- 2:18who murdered two children. At a Catholic Church.
- 2:22Left a manifesto of disturbing demonic beliefs.
- 2:28CB NS Billy Hollowell joins me now.
- 2:30Billy, this is this is hard to process, hard to stomach, but
- 2:34what were some of his beliefs? Yeah, I mean, this is one of
- 2:37those things they're still going through and trying to verify,
- 2:40but it seems pretty, it seems pretty clear that many of the
- 2:43law enforcement involved think and believe that this manifesto
- 2:47came from him, you know, really apparently obsessed with school
- 2:50shootings. There was apparently an image, a
- 2:53shooting target that had a, a photograph, an image of Jesus on
- 2:57it. There were messages written on
- 3:00the weapons themselves, the the term psycho killer.
- 3:04There were anti-Semitic messages, one of them said
- 3:076,000,000 wasn't enough, obviously referring to the
- 3:10Jewish people in the Holocaust. And it just goes on and on.
- 3:14Kill Donald Trump, very confusing messaging.
- 3:17And from what we know, this particular individual apparently
- 3:21went to that school and graduated, you know, in 2017,
- 3:25was a student there from what some of the media reports are
- 3:28saying. So this I, I think one of the
- 3:31big things obviously is you want to understand the motivation.
- 3:34What is it that made this person go and do this thing?
- 3:38And one of the struggles is that when you're dealing with evil,
- 3:40when you're dealing with illness, when you're dealing
- 3:43with all these factors, you're not always going to get a clear
- 3:45sense of what that is. Well, you know, as as the father
- 3:48of three young children, this is this is beyond horrifying.
- 3:54But to me, and that might be stepping on some toes here, I
- 3:59don't think this is just mental illness.
- 4:01I think this is the most clear cut demonic thing that you can
- 4:06possibly have. And if you know, people want to
- 4:09say something about that opinion, that's fine.
- 4:12But there, I'm going to I'm going to say even more
- 4:14controversial things. But there does seem to be a
- 4:17stream of all of these rejections of what the God of
- 4:22the Bible is about. They get grouped together,
- 4:26blended together, and it, it, it seems like there is a demonic
- 4:33backing to a lot of this concept.
- 4:35And, and to me, I think the perfect example is that, you
- 4:40know, why is transgenderism and being against, you know, certain
- 4:44Christian things and being horrifically anti-Semitic.
- 4:48How is that related? I think it's all related.
- 4:50I think at the end of the day, when we've done a lot of stories
- 4:53about this, the the hatred, not the criticism of the state of
- 4:56Israel, but the hatred of the Jewish people is at its core a
- 5:01hatred of the God of Israel, right?
- 5:04The hatred of of the Jewish people is a hatred of the God of
- 5:08Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And as you said on that on his
- 5:11gun, it said 6,000,000 was enough, obviously referred to
- 5:14the Holocaust. He also said extra Jew gas,
- 5:17which you know, someone who's been to Maidonic and Auschwitz a
- 5:21couple times and Yad Vashem and Jerusalem.
- 5:24And it's just, it is demonic to me.
- 5:27And I'll stand on that wholeheartedly.
- 5:29I think I go right to Ephesians 6 for our struggle.
- 5:34And this is, I don't know why this is controversial, why
- 5:35people don't want to talk about this, but for our struggle is
- 5:39not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the
- 5:43authorities, against the powers of this Dark World and against
- 5:48the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realm.
- 5:52So that is a inconvenient topic if people want to just play nice
- 5:56Christian kumbaya. I do believe that there is, I
- 6:00mean, I don't believe the Bible is clear that there is a a
- 6:03demonic war. Obviously, I do believe Yeshua
- 6:07of Nazareth has has defeated that entity.
- 6:10But obviously, you know, Billy, you've dealt, you know, you've
- 6:13actually started movies about the supernatural world.
- 6:16So how should we be processing all of this?
- 6:18Yeah. Another morning, same old way,
- 8:11bare feet, uncle floor. Hope could stay happy.
- 8:13Silence fills the room, deep good the clock.
- 8:15I feel consumed. I'm going to still sit mirror in
- 8:27the hallway. I barely exist.
- 8:28Super tired, fake smile in the background.
- 8:32Outs pile, phone buzzing, head and hands, unread messages,
- 8:43broken plans, pressure pressed on every breath.
- 8:47Maybe I'm just not enough yet. I look out the window, nothing's
- 8:51clear. All these expectations ring in
- 8:54my ear so it doesn't ever get easy.
- 8:59Is the piece on the other side? How much of me do I give away
- 9:06before I disappear inside? Tell me how much more I gotta
- 9:14carry. Is there in somewhere I can see
- 9:19and was supposed to bend until I breakdown?
- 9:24Or is there space left just for me?
- 9:27Tell me how much more I've got to carry.
- 9:31Repeat the question waiting to be free.
- 9:44Move this song but I'm cold within waiting for a start that
- 9:47doesn't begin. Smiles and passing as we wear
- 9:50small tarkovs. What's really there hands and do
- 10:03all I couldn't say last night. Take a number, wait a nine
- 10:07pressure my words against the time I feel the way slow me
- 10:18down. Still searching for higher
- 10:21ground quiet moments hard to find.
- 10:26Still I carry what's not mine. Tony, does it have gazing?
- 10:36It's on the other side. How much of me do I give away
- 10:42before I disappear inside? Tell me how much more I've got
- 10:50to carry. Is it in someone I can't see?
- 10:55Am I supposed to bend until I break down or is there space
- 11:01left just for me? Tell me how much more I gotta
- 11:06carry. Repeat the question waiting to
- 11:09be free. Let me drop the sway down and
- 11:12breathe with the sound. I'm tired.
- 11:20I'm running a place where just the taste of the grapes you have
- 11:29to hold it all. But if I just let it fall for me
- 11:34away. Lord, I'm sitting here tonight.
- 12:04Something ain't right. Insight can't shake this feeling
- 12:12in my chest. Maybe I just need someone, but
- 12:24God, if you're listening now, don't let go.
- 12:32Don't let go. When the darkness comes around,
- 12:40don't let go, Don't let go. I need you more than I can say.
- 12:53Don't let go. Doctor says there's something
- 13:02wrong. Been fighting this too long.
- 13:12Body's tired spirit speak Jesus, hear me when I speak God, if
- 13:20you're listening now, don't let go, don't let go when the
- 13:22darkness comes around, don't let go, don't let go.
- 13:29I need. Do more than I can say.
- 13:49Don't let go. I'm scared, Lord, I'm so scared.
- 13:57Feel like you're not there. But Mama said you never believe.
- 14:07Help me still believe. Help me still believe.
- 14:44Of this life you gave to me, set my worried spirit free, got I
- 14:51know you live me die. Don't let go, Don't let
- 15:12go. So let go.
- 15:21So let go. I trust you more than I can say.
- 15:25Don't let go. Don't let go.
- 15:32Don't let go, but don't let go. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, My.
- 15:44Name is Brett Keene. Oh, goodness.
- 15:52Hello. Yep, I'm here.
- 15:54Sorry. Yep, I'm here.
- 15:57Sounds like some love. Yeah, I know.
- 16:00She was telling me a story. Sorry.
- 16:03Oh, good. Well, I was going to say hello.
- 16:05Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keene from GOD TV Radio.
- 16:08I'm here with Mr. Smokey St. the legendary, the epic, the wave
- 16:15Turner, and we've also looks like we've got Steven Andrew in
- 16:20the room. Steven, it's been such a long
- 16:22time. How you been?
- 16:23Hey, pretty good, Brett. I was taking some time off of
- 16:26social media and I'm back around.
- 16:28How you been, man? People have been asking me where
- 16:31you went and I said I think a bunch of cheerleaders kidnapped
- 16:33him and ran off with him. I don't think that's what
- 16:37happened. I like to think that my wife
- 16:39would have been highly upset with me, so I would avoid that
- 16:42at all cost. Very.
- 16:45That's a committed man right there.
- 16:47So what's going on in Smokey? How's your day been as well as
- 16:50Mr. Steven? Yeah, fine.
- 16:54Yeah, just yeah, just kind of regular day, you know, moving
- 16:57through, getting stuff done, you know?
- 17:00What do you think? Was that intro too long or what?
- 17:03Beautiful though, right? Oh no, it was great.
- 17:05No, it was great. A perfect, perfect amount of
- 17:07time actually, because I had to get back to the house.
- 17:09So it was totally fine. It's all good.
- 17:13So Steven, he also goes. You still got your YouTube
- 17:16channel Proverbs guy, right? Well, yeah, we do.
- 17:20But honestly, we've all but given up on YouTube because it's
- 17:24just a cesspool for trolls. So our main platform is now on
- 17:28TikTok. We're building that one.
- 17:30But yeah, we still have the YouTube around.
- 17:32You know what I'm talking about, Brett.
- 17:34Oh yeah, it's definitely a cesspool.
- 17:37Oh, goodness gracious. I got a lot of lovely gentlemen
- 17:40and ladies out there making videos about me lately, and they
- 17:44just, they're all edifying people who want to come in.
- 17:55So what happening with you? Proverbs.
- 17:58Besides you know the whole marriage thing and getting
- 18:02tired. YouTube.
- 18:04What else is working for you? Anything positive?
- 18:07Yeah, we just relocated by the wife's family, so we got a new
- 18:11house set up and living life, having having fun.
- 18:14It's been great. What happened at TTOR?
- 18:18He still come around. Yeah, yeah, He's been busy
- 18:22working on some computers and doing some stuff like that.
- 18:25Looks like we got somebody with Donald Trump's head on it.
- 18:28I think we've actually brought this person in.
- 18:31I don't think they're very Republican.
- 18:33Hold on one second. Hold on.
- 18:35Let's let's cover the screen real quick.
- 18:39That way we make sure we're not dealing with an animal.
- 18:42Hold on. We need a we need a backdrop
- 18:47real quick. That won't take long.
- 18:49Here we go. All right, so. *** Yeah, Thank
- 18:56you very much. There you go.
- 18:58Caucasian, but there you go. When we have people like that,
- 19:03we're going to do this. Uh oh.
- 19:05Retard alert. Retard alert class.
- 19:10So there we go. Let me take that off the screen.
- 19:17Goodness. What a what a ridiculous pastime
- 19:19that is. I know it's odd.
- 19:24He's been sitting down there for a while and stuff wanting to get
- 19:27in just so he could show us what critical thinking is.
- 19:31You know what I mean? That rational thought process
- 19:33that atheist talk about? Yeah, that one guy who sat in
- 19:36the the other night, he sat in the back studio for like 30
- 19:39minutes just to come in and do that.
- 19:41Like, wow, man. Like, really?
- 19:42This is your life? Like, holy crap.
- 19:46Wow. Yeah, Yeah.
- 19:47Guys, you need to work around a little bit.
- 19:49You got to build some. Or what's that word for it?
- 19:52You know, when you want to actually have a conversation.
- 19:55Been so long. Yeah.
- 19:57See, here's the thing. I think the trick to trolling,
- 19:59like, really, honestly, I don't know if the Drunken Peasants
- 20:01crew really kind of figured this out yet.
- 20:03The trick to trolling is that in the process of trolling, you
- 20:07don't make yourself look like a stupid asshole.
- 20:10At the same time, like, like, you know, that's the thing, like
- 20:13if you, if you're just doing doing stuff to make yourself
- 20:16look like a stupid asshole, you're not really, you know,
- 20:19accomplishing much really. You're just trolling yourself.
- 20:22So I mean, you guys might want to, you know, step it up a
- 20:24little bit. That's true.
- 20:26If you people out there want to see something goofy, you don't
- 20:29have to go to a a steam yard for that.
- 20:32Just look in the mirror and. Then.
- 20:37Brett, I was going to stream this to my channel but like 5
- 20:40seconds and you dropped about 5 curse words so I had to unstream
- 20:44it to my channel. That's all good.
- 20:47I'm sorry that happened to you. Well, in the future you got to
- 20:50let me know if you're going to do that, and I'll try to be a
- 20:53more, what is it called politically correct?
- 20:56Well, you want to tell me too, because I also don't necessarily
- 20:59censor that way. I, I find that there's many
- 21:03times Christian fixation on certain words, having a natural
- 21:06telos to them instead of a predication, I find to be
- 21:09problematic in terms of diluting or impact of communication.
- 21:12But that's just my take. So hear you there.
- 21:17I can hear you. So what did you?
- 21:19I don't know, Smokey, I know that you were having some
- 21:21Internet issues, but what did you think about that?
- 21:24Those clips of the, the violence and the the craziness, all that
- 21:28weird stuff. I all want to be honest with
- 21:32you. I was having connection problems
- 21:34for a big chunk of that. So you might have to give me
- 21:36more of a rundown. Well, I, I'll tell you what,
- 21:40because I'd like to hear proverbs ID it's very short, but
- 21:43it gets really fine. We'll, we'll do that.
- 21:46Let's see, there we go. Angry.
- 21:51Go out, buy a gun. It's OK to be angry, Look.
- 21:56At my face now. If you try to stop me from going
- 22:02into a woman's bathroom. Excuse me, it's ma'am.
- 22:04Be the last mistake you ever make it.
- 22:06Is man find that anger, harness it to do good in the world.
- 22:20This anger anger is probably my primary source of motivation
- 22:34the. Thing.
- 22:35Is. You don't have to leave.
- 22:38For everything that I do. Cut that out now or you'll go
- 22:41home in an ambulance it. Was a call to action or call to
- 22:45arms. Don't be afraid to show your
- 22:55anger. What do you think?
- 23:02Smoking. Yeah.
- 23:10I mean, in any other cond, I don't know where this is going
- 23:14from, this type of approval on some of this stuff.
- 23:17Because really, if you kind of were approaching this topic and
- 23:19literally any other context, you would find these people as
- 23:22monsters. You know, if I, if I had somehow
- 23:26adopted some sort of subjective perspective that I should be
- 23:32identified as an automaton or a robot or a dog or a chicken or a
- 23:37helicopter or whatever the fuck else, you know, I want to
- 23:40perceive myself. The very idea that I could
- 23:43somehow morally obligate the rest of society to adopt my
- 23:49delusion, It's just just ridiculous.
- 23:53It's absolutely absurd. And to, to meet the rejection of
- 23:59the desire to adopt the delusion with violence and anger and rage
- 24:06and attacks and killing. I mean, clearly, I don't think
- 24:11you have to try hard to look look at these people, look at
- 24:16the demonstration of the movement itself and see it's
- 24:19complete and utter moral bankruptcy, you know?
- 24:22So the water is turning back now.
- 24:30We got some people backstage. Let me throw up a image.
- 24:34Yeah. All right.
- 24:35Yeah, sure. There we go.
- 24:37That's Panda Kitty. The panda suit.
- 24:44'S going to be a thing for a hot minute.
- 24:45I know it's going to be a meme. So Sophia, I let them up and
- 24:50they decided to get real on me. Hold on.
- 24:53Oh yeah. Sparkle.
- 24:54Is it sparkle? No.
- 24:57The person screamed the N word. Oh, oh, OK.
- 25:00It's it's yeah, they seem to have some kind of racism issue.
- 25:04Let's see what Bobby's got for us.
- 25:06Bobby, you can be able to handle yourself, guy.
- 25:09Hey, yeah, I think I'm by myself.
- 25:13You do all right to theological position and political
- 25:16disposition. My my feet.
- 25:20Well, I am, I am I'm agnostic. I don't I don't know God.
- 25:25I don't know if he's out there, but I don't think he knows me.
- 25:29I but at the same time, I'm very liberal.
- 25:34I'm very gay. I like things in my ass.
- 25:36I like put. Well, that's nice to know.
- 25:39I appreciate you, Sharon. Let's see what we got here.
- 25:48Oh man, let me. Right.
- 25:50You really attract them. I know, right?
- 25:53I mean, we got somebody who has, yeah.
- 25:59At least they could give me a little bit of a laugh here and
- 26:02there. I'll give them, you know, Well,
- 26:06I'm, I'm not kicking them out. They're running off as soon as
- 26:09they say they're. Oh, no, I'm sure.
- 26:11Yeah, I'm sure. That's what's.
- 26:12Going on? Yeah.
- 26:13So we got G Man in the room. I don't know if this is the
- 26:16Christian version or the atheist version.
- 26:18Which is it? If that's the real G Man, give
- 26:22me the middle finger please. Doubt that.
- 26:25I'm just kidding. Give me the thumbs up.
- 26:27If it's really G man, there we go.
- 26:30That's really G man. Is it really?
- 26:32Yes. Hold on a second.
- 26:35Let's How you doing there, fellas?
- 26:38Me. I understand.
- 26:39Hey, man. What's?
- 26:40Up, buddy. Yeah, what's up?
- 26:45Well, how you been a long time I've.
- 26:47Been all right. I got a notification that you
- 26:49was going live and I actually got a little bit of time, so I
- 26:51said why not? Cool man, good to see.
- 26:57You good to see you too. So you guys are controlled by
- 27:01the drunken peasants? Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 27:03They're, they're they're on to me and Brett pretty hard.
- 27:06Yeah. They're obsessed again.
- 27:07Yeah. Yeah, they talked a little bit
- 27:09of smack about me too. I think later, earlier today
- 27:13they did it. I think a video I did last
- 27:16night. They they reviewed it and I was
- 27:19supposed to upload a short but I ain't getting around to doing it
- 27:21yet. Well, G man, we're going to let
- 27:25people in the bottom, not in that kind of way that that
- 27:28liberal was talking about earlier, but we're going to let
- 27:32them come up on the bottom of the screen.
- 27:34Elias, what's your story? *** Thank you, Ellias.
- 27:38You're gone. All right, Ronan, what's your
- 27:42story? Nothing much.
- 27:45Just thought I'd pop in. Everyone's in.
- 27:47Oh, Bokey. I know Bokey.
- 27:48Bokey's cool. What?
- 27:49Was interesting about the person who said that though.
- 27:52That's going to be the person later on saying that God condone
- 27:54slavery. Slavery.
- 27:56Oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 27:58Later on, your God is terrible because he condones slavery, yet
- 28:01they come in and they say that just go to shop and think these
- 28:04people are, you know, just saying.
- 28:06Yeah. Well, well, normally those
- 28:09people that go around and probably just live under their
- 28:13matriarch, but probably has conceived the best plan to find
- 28:20a way to solve the world's problems yet do nothing.
- 28:23So this is what they do. They feed off of strife and
- 28:28stirring the pot. So that is kind of like what
- 28:33their whole life is. It's to the point where it's
- 28:35nihilistic, like they believe life can never get better.
- 28:38So I will rather blind myself with pleasures because I have no
- 28:44purpose in life. So yeah, to to start off me
- 28:49being here and hello everybody in the panel.
- 28:51I just woke up but I'm making a fresh.
- 28:54Brew. So don't worry about me.
- 28:57Sorry about that. So hello, everybody, welcome and
- 29:02thanks for having me here. Brett, I don't know what we're
- 29:06dealing with maybe. We're.
- 29:08Looking at a bunch of trannies talking tough in the Internet,
- 29:12suddenly buying guns and crap and threatening that if you
- 29:17don't call me by my pronouns, your next pronouns going to be
- 29:21dead. I don't know.
- 29:23So what are we doing? What are we doing here today?
- 29:25What's the itinerary? Well, we're we're discussing
- 29:30that clip that we just showed G man, what is your views have?
- 29:34You had that in here. I'm looking at the chat here.
- 29:36Butter toast is G man. Our favorite N word, you know?
- 29:42And these are the Drunken Peasants fans, right?
- 29:44But no, Butter Toast is some troll that's kind of been
- 29:47hanging around me. I don't think he's ADP guy.
- 29:49He's just one of these little little nut jobs that's been
- 29:51trolling me. From that I was not going to say
- 29:53something that hurt his DP feelings if that was the case.
- 29:56No, I don't know. I've seen him before the DP
- 29:58stuff. So I think he's just one of
- 29:59those orbiters, you know? Look, you guys are actually
- 30:02lucky because the drunken peasants don't even know who I
- 30:05am and they're making videos about you guys like that's
- 30:08that's impressive. I don't know who you are either.
- 30:14Which is which is funny because I have heard about you like
- 30:19quite a bit, but I've never got to meet you, so it's
- 30:22interesting. Oh OK, A lot of the atheists on
- 30:27here, the ones that haven't talked to me yet, are interested
- 30:30in talking to me till I go live and it's time to start talking
- 30:33about stuff I don't know. D man curious because if you
- 30:36could tell me, because I no one gave what we gave me much of a
- 30:38straight answer is drag not dead or something like or did he fall
- 30:42off the planet or do you go to Mars or you know, is he with the
- 30:44Elon? What's he doing?
- 30:45I don't. Know what he's doing, but he's
- 30:47alive. No, Drag is part of the He's
- 30:50drag is not part of the manosphere.
- 30:53He's part of the Red pill community.
- 30:56Oh, interesting. OK, so he's he's he's now
- 30:59grifted towards the red pill community.
- 31:02Yeah. Interesting.
- 31:03OK, yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's me.
- 31:06Hey. What's up, Joe?
- 31:07What's? Going on Oh this?
- 31:08Oh, you're live? I thought they were reviewing
- 31:09one of your videos. No, no, no, no, I'm live.
- 31:15Yeah, yeah. He, I, I saw him come to me.
- 31:17I'm. Going to come to them, you know?
- 31:20Do you you know Cooley? What's his name?
- 31:22Cool. It's one of those red Pill guys,
- 31:25but he basically just mirrors all of his videos.
- 31:27Like he does the same thing he did with Eugene man when he was
- 31:30in his community. He just picks one person.
- 31:32He mirrors all their videos and now he's, you know, now he's
- 31:36discussing red post stuff. Gotcha, gotcha.
- 31:39It's a lot of lazy content creators man.
- 31:41Nobody really tries. Well, not nobody, but the people
- 31:43that wanted to just steal video and don't actually give
- 31:46commentary. These people don't really got no
- 31:48skill no more. They don't know how to do
- 31:49anything. They just steal your videos.
- 31:51Whoop, you do. You don't talk about nothing,
- 31:53you know? Speaking of red pill, red pill
- 31:58stuff like I, I get that we got to be careful with who we trust
- 32:03and what we do. But let me ask you something
- 32:07like in terms of women and getting wealth, like are these
- 32:10just are, are most of these just better men who got used or had
- 32:16bad experiences with women? And now let me put it in
- 32:22perspective, like, did they, I mean, did they just do they
- 32:25just, are they a majority of the time just woman hating rich guys
- 32:29because oh, women are this and women are that?
- 32:32Because I don't think that, you know, we should just categorize
- 32:37all women as the, as these. I mean, I'm not trying to, how
- 32:42do I put this? Like, I'm not, I'm not saying
- 32:44that all women are acting like this.
- 32:47I mean, I get our culture. Modern dating is like really
- 32:49messed up. But at the end of the day my
- 32:52question is like are majority of these red pill people just women
- 32:56hating men because they had bad experiences?
- 33:00Because I don't want to. I mean, I listen to red pill
- 33:03stuff, but I don't, I don't want to come off as.
- 33:05Something like, you know? Well I mean just because they
- 33:08have bad experiences doesn't mean they hate women.
- 33:11They just have better experiences for women.
- 33:13Like, I know I know a lot of these.
- 33:15Oh man. Yes, hello bookie, I was talking
- 33:19that you screamed because I'm here.
- 33:20How you? Doing is this Smokey's channel?
- 33:22Who's channel am I on? Both actually both are Co
- 33:26screaming so Oh OK, I'm just like wait a minute, what did I?
- 33:33Hi. Jill.
- 33:35What are you doing here? I I can join, everyone can join.
- 33:42Oh Mac Mac created a Jill unit but I I think I gotta I have to
- 33:46download it OK. So.
- 33:49Yeah, Jill. I have AI have a quick question
- 33:50for you. What does dragon dot doing this
- 33:52stuff like YouTube kicks? I've seen you a video of him,
- 33:55yeah. Do you have?
- 33:56Discord. Griffin.
- 33:58What is he, Mac? Is he telling people to tear
- 34:00still? He he's he's just got, he's
- 34:03well, they were talking about Umar Johnson in the last video,
- 34:07so. He he's part of that.
- 34:09Community now where, you know, he gripped it over there and now
- 34:14he's talking about the red pill stuff and body counts and all
- 34:17that type of stuff. I believe.
- 34:20You have my e-mail, Jill. The total, total shift of take
- 34:25away what he was doing prior, you know, a few years ago.
- 34:30So I didn't mean to cut you off Sparkle.
- 34:34So what was that? What were you what were you
- 34:36going to say to me about the red pill stuff?
- 34:38Yeah. And woman, you.
- 34:40Yeah, I was just going to say that a lot of a lot of those
- 34:42men, you know, went through, went through bad experiences and
- 34:45that they may have colored their perception on women, but they
- 34:49don't hate women, at least not into the degree that a lot of
- 34:52people think, like I'll kill all women and, you know, genocide.
- 35:00They just say they're dudes that have bad experiences.
- 35:02You know it happens. Right.
- 35:04Because what I'll end up doing like, because what I'll end up
- 35:07doing is if I, if I start saying that all women are like this, I
- 35:12condemn the women of my life. I condemn my mom.
- 35:15I condemn my aunts. I.
- 35:17Condemn even the girls who I'm good friends with, you know, all
- 35:22because these guys are having bad experiences and I believe
- 35:25that's very rather immature. No control of emotions without
- 35:30discipline for how you react. It's not very stoic.
- 35:35And these guys just feel the need to just engage with every
- 35:39single bop that's on the Internet.
- 35:41Like like, you see it now, right?
- 35:43I mean, they're bops, So what do you expect?
- 35:45They aren't going to play tricks.
- 35:47But just because you have one bop in the room doesn't mean
- 35:50that the entire room makes every girl a bop, you know what I
- 35:53mean? Like what's?
- 35:55Up, Bob. Bop like you know, it's like
- 35:58when you it's like when you put on four O 3 and then in like in
- 36:02a calculator and then you just put it all around.
- 36:05It's called a bop. You know I.
- 36:06Don't know, I just I just never heard of the term BOP.
- 36:09Well, well, if you put it, if you put it back to front, it
- 36:12looks like the word bop. But if you put it back to front,
- 36:15it was front to back. It's actually called ho.
- 36:18It's four O 3. You know what I mean?
- 36:21Like how you spell something in a calculator.
- 36:24Yeah, like boob or something. I sorry.
- 36:29I said Bob Boob. Hey, hey, hey.
- 36:34OK, You know what? You know what?
- 36:35I I I've been looked into the red pill, whatever in a while,
- 36:40OK? I don't know what the fuck they
- 36:41have. Yes, I agree G man is aging kind
- 36:46of gracefully dude. Appreciate that.
- 36:51But I, I, I always, I always thought I age like good whiskey.
- 36:56So I I don't know about you guys.
- 36:59Hey, hey bookie, you like you, you, you, you owe me a stream
- 37:03because if you remember, I asked, I asked you like you
- 37:05never told me how you believed that you say I'll tell you in a
- 37:07stream and never happened. Because I forget things.
- 37:13I forget things. OK, all right, I forget.
- 37:16I get it. I get it, I get it.
- 37:18I get it. You work hard, OK?
- 37:20I'm just someone just an asshole who doesn't work at all, right?
- 37:24I don't know, I work too hard and then in The Saturdays I
- 37:28just, I power sleep and then when I wake up, I power a nap.
- 37:35I I, I work way too freaking hard.
- 37:39Yeah, I like, I work too freaking hard.
- 37:41And after a long day of work, it's it's the gym.
- 37:45All right. Does anybody know George
- 37:47Costanza? Yeah, that's from the TV show
- 37:53Seinfeld or something like that, I think.
- 37:54Oh boy. Well let's give them a chance.
- 37:58George. Listen, you'll be gone in less 5
- 38:01seconds. You start screaming racial slurs
- 38:03are ridiculous nonsense. What's up George?
- 38:06What's your theological position and political disposition?
- 38:10Why are you so bored? Why are you so sucky?
- 38:13Bye bye. See you later.
- 38:19George was nice knowing you. I didn't actually expect this
- 38:23much kind of hate from you, G man.
- 38:25Like like I like to know where you come from, from all of this.
- 38:31Like you get like lots of atheist hate.
- 38:36Yeah, I get a lot of atheist hate because I come at them
- 38:38pretty hard. So you're a polemicist?
- 38:43No, I I just attacked their their views the same way they
- 38:46attack mine. They say the guide ain't real.
- 38:48I say that. I say that they don't know what
- 38:50they're talking about. They say that I commit logical
- 38:52fallacies. I say that they don't got no
- 38:54education. They they get over here and they
- 38:56say that that's that slavery in the Bible is wrong.
- 38:59I say they don't know nothing about the topic.
- 39:02Yeah, well, most of these guys don't know how to call, call out
- 39:06fallacies. I think you guys are familiar
- 39:09with the godless engineer and he keeps saying appeal to
- 39:13authority, appeal to authority just because he just because we
- 39:18decide to reference in authority.
- 39:21But I don't think that's how it works.
- 39:23Like, appeal to authority is something like, if I wanted to
- 39:27know about church history, I would ask the Church Fathers.
- 39:34But if I decide to ask Bill Moore about church history and
- 39:38just because he says something about it and I'm supposed to
- 39:41agree, then, well, that's appealed to authority.
- 39:44I mean, I would not ask an astronaut to give me a
- 39:47geographical answer. You know what I mean?
- 39:50Right, Right. We've got the other news here
- 39:52below Hold. On the way it works is if a.
- 39:54Person Hold on, Ronnie, are you cool?
- 39:59All right, thank you, Ronnie. Sorry about that folks.
- 40:03Continue our. Engineer is a moron because
- 40:05godless engineer doesn't understand that you can appeal
- 40:08to authority, you just got to make sure that when you appeal
- 40:10to the authority that there's evidence involved in it too.
- 40:14So yeah, that's not one of the best debaters out there.
- 40:18Right. Like we're not, we're not.
- 40:20Like the argument isn't because someone is saying this, then it
- 40:24must be true. No, that's not what we're
- 40:26saying. It's called multi corroborated
- 40:28witnesses and then when we reference one of those
- 40:31quotations or just one and then if they need more than one, then
- 40:35we're happily able to do it. It is what it is.
- 40:39Have you heard of a deconstruction zone?
- 40:42I have heard of the guy but I don't follow him because in my
- 40:47earlier. He's a cartoon, he's a Cartoon
- 40:50Network clown. When it comes to debating he he
- 40:53doesn't really know anything. I had AI, went to his channel.
- 40:56You should go see what happened. OK, because I know, I know
- 41:01Smokey also ripped into this guy, but I'm not.
- 41:03I don't think he ever debated, but there was a thing about it.
- 41:06But since you were there, as you say, I would love to see that.
- 41:10I would like to go over. There, and if you go to his
- 41:12channel, you're going to see a half, you're going to see half
- 41:15of a conversation. You go to my channel, you're
- 41:17going to see what happened when he muted me and and and raise
- 41:21his volume up and lower mine and all that.
- 41:23You'll be able to see the whole thing on mine.
- 41:24Well, that's actually, you know what I mean.
- 41:29That's a Dick move. You know, they've always played
- 41:31unfair with G man, G man. There's people out there that
- 41:34would like to subscribe to your channel.
- 41:36Are you able to copy and paste the link out there for?
- 41:38I would love that because, you know, I want to see that debate
- 41:41too. Yeah, give me a second here.
- 41:46I'll give it to you. If you want to find it quick,
- 41:50all you got to do is go on YouTube and type in XXO 54.
- 41:53It's really all you got to do. But if you want it, give me a
- 41:56second here and I'll give it to you.
- 41:58Hold on, give me a SEC Make. Sure, you post it in private
- 42:04chat as well so I can copy and paste it for you every now and
- 42:08then, all right? I gotcha.
- 42:10Hold on. And you pin that sucker up there
- 42:14and highlight the things that everybody knows.
- 42:18All right, no problem. But.
- 42:20All of them said no. I mean, I, I use the same
- 42:23channel. I mean, unless they want the,
- 42:25the channel where I handle my trolling and all of that because
- 42:28I've I've turned it to quite of a troll when I need to.
- 42:32That's the reason why I'm talking about certain things.
- 42:35No more. We've got another person below G
- 42:37man. We're going to bring them up,
- 42:39see if they can handle themselves, control themselves,
- 42:41unlike A feral primate. Let's see what we got.
- 42:47Will, what's your story? All right, thank you very much.
- 42:52I knew it. What, Brad?
- 42:53You. You attractive man.
- 42:55What the? Hey, it's not me.
- 42:57It has to be, I think. It's no, no.
- 42:59No, it's. It's you 'cause it's.
- 43:00Got to be G man nobody. Can help.
- 43:02Me. It's those Garbage Pail kids
- 43:04over there on that Channel that the drunken peasants, they're
- 43:10streaming us right now. No, no, but I know it's them.
- 43:14They can't stand you, Brad. They don't like you.
- 43:17I don't know why. I'm such a beautiful person.
- 43:19Yeah, I know. I.
- 43:20Believe that me and Brett Kane predicted that the drunken
- 43:23peasants would fail under a Billy to fridge.
- 43:25Billy to fridge? Yeah, everyone keeps saying
- 43:28they're already. Putting on drunken.
- 43:29Peasants. I've heard drunken in my
- 43:33synopsis. I've heard drunken.
- 43:35I've heard drunken peasants on smokings and Will Kincaid's
- 43:39stream. But can you guys give me a
- 43:41little more about drunken? They're just atheists.
- 43:44That's all you need to know. They're just atheists or
- 43:45cowards. They'll never debate.
- 43:50By the way, if Ben wants to pick me as a target, that's not
- 43:53smart. And which Ben did.
- 43:55Ben stated in his video that apparently I am a target of him
- 43:59now, based upon me willing to defend Brett Keene the other
- 44:03night and challenge the dumb, degenerate rodents that he was
- 44:05sending over there. And so he's decided to pick me
- 44:09as a target. That's fine.
- 44:10But you know, let's deal with the fact that Ben is an
- 44:13untalented, low IQ fucking coward and would never actually
- 44:17come over here and challenge me directly.
- 44:19I'm going to start inviting him and let his audience see what a
- 44:22coward he is because if he ever gets in the same space with me
- 44:25and has to throw down, it's not going to look good for him and
- 44:27I'll have a moderated debate on any of this dumb trash he's
- 44:30saying anytime he wants. No they won't.
- 44:32They don't debate. They they don't debate.
- 44:34They're atheists. They're going to stay in their
- 44:35echo chamber and just do reaction.
- 44:37Well then let him be known for the coward that he is and he's
- 44:39nothing but a spurgy little rodent just making up a bunch of
- 44:42crap for his dumb low IQ zoomer audience so he's irrelevant to
- 44:45me. I'd sooner fear a cockroach in
- 44:47my kitchen. Well, God made him that way.
- 44:53To be fair, though, Jill, there was a lot of the audience.
- 44:56He was saying you should have Smokey St. up there, you should
- 45:00debate him and all that. They encouraged Ben to do it,
- 45:02but Ben's balls shriveled up like that of a mouse and he.
- 45:06Just he was. Like, you know, tears were
- 45:09starting. He's barring, he repeats
- 45:11himself. I'm not going to have him on the
- 45:13shower and he wants to sit there and talk shit about me for two
- 45:15hours. Yeah, but OK, whatever man.
- 45:17Squeak, squeak. Their their their man excuse
- 45:20these days is this. They don't want to give you no
- 45:22attention and they don't want to bring no, bring no traffic to
- 45:26your channel. So the way that you kill that is
- 45:29by going on the drunken peasants itself and say, OK, fine, I'll
- 45:31come to your platform and to destroy you.
- 45:33There'll be more fun. Kill you on your own channel.
- 45:35I'd be fine with that, too. Yeah, he told, He told his
- 45:39audience today. I just so happened to tune in at
- 45:41this time he was saying this that do not go to Brett King's
- 45:45channel. Do not go to Brett King's
- 45:47channel because Brett Kane is using a third party to make
- 45:52money on YouTube. To stop them from making money.
- 46:01Because that's how you prove that there is no God.
- 46:03That is definitely how you go about doing it.
- 46:05Yeah. What is it to you to come up
- 46:07with? These YouTube rules about using
- 46:10third party platforms or ABS to make money on YouTube.
- 46:14Like who? Is this guy?
- 46:15I think he is. God, the God of YouTube.
- 46:18What I'd like to know is what the obsession with Brett is
- 46:22right. Because whether it should be or
- 46:24not, the Drunken Peasant channel is huge.
- 46:26Massive. And Brett has had to restart
- 46:29Well. It was.
- 46:31Fair. But what I mean is Brett, Brett
- 46:33has had to start over multiple times.
- 46:35There are people on here with smaller channels that get more
- 46:38lot, they get more live viewers than they do.
- 46:40Yeah. But my question is, I don't
- 46:42understand why they're so threatened.
- 46:43I get more like yours, any drunken peasant sometimes on my
- 46:46sowing and reaping YouTube channel.
- 46:49Well, because Brett's a liar, they say.
- 46:51And they don't like liars because in their religion,
- 46:53atheism, lying is wrong. Dragna.
- 46:59I don't think so. The drift.
- 47:02The drift. Nut.
- 47:04We got the We could call him the Drift Nut because he's drifted
- 47:07over to another community entirely.
- 47:09We got another user below. Let's see what they're about.
- 47:12Here we go, let's see what we got.
- 47:16The brain cells about to go bye bye.
- 47:18Is that the atheist? Yes, thank you.
- 47:21Those are the brain. Cells and another brain.
- 47:23Cell. Is.
- 47:24Like an atheist. What is the look at the look at
- 47:26the atheist rate of sexual attacks compared to the
- 47:28Christians? Yeah, smaller.
- 47:30Yeah, I gotta. And that'll be the same.
- 47:32Atheist. Oh, your God condones slavery?
- 47:35He's immoral and whatever. Shut up.
- 47:37You know what you're talking about.
- 47:38Well, like I like I. Said they just stir the pot
- 47:41anyway. I'm sorry.
- 47:42Go ahead. No, I'm like what?
- 47:44What is the fun of coming on here and saying the N word like?
- 47:49Sparkle, you're an atheist. Why don't you go find out?
- 47:51Go ask him about that. Yeah, I I mean, I'm an atheist
- 47:56on weekends. Well, what are you?
- 47:59And during the weekdays, huh? Like you can't like after a day
- 48:02of work, you say, Oh my God, is that what you're doing?
- 48:04Is that what we're doing here? He flips a coin.
- 48:06He flips a coin at night is what it is.
- 48:08Oh, OK, so he's he also flipped. Well, he flips a coin in the
- 48:11morning to figure out which sexuality he will be.
- 48:15And then in the evening he flips a coin to figure out which
- 48:18religion he'll be. So it's it's a he's got, he's
- 48:21got a whole system. So hold on.
- 48:24It's kind of like here. In.
- 48:25The Philippines. I mean, first during the day,
- 48:29the guy is Juanito, but during the night he's Juanita.
- 48:33Is that what we're doing here? Yeah, that's.
- 48:35Yeah. That sounds like a sparkle
- 48:36situation. Yeah.
- 48:37Wait. I thought only genders were
- 48:39fluid now. Is it religions too?
- 48:41I'm behind. The sun turned in white Ever
- 48:48since then. He's hated God since the sun
- 48:50turn. You do you do realize?
- 48:55That I will literally die if I go out to walk.
- 48:57Literally. I will get a very bad sunburn,
- 49:00but I will die eventually from the sun.
- 49:02I found some more albino jokes so you better stop trolling.
- 49:05I'm. Not what the fuck are you
- 49:07talking about? I'm not.
- 49:08Right, we got another animal that wants up.
- 49:10Let's see what they're about. I just.
- 49:12Googled albino jokes. Carl disappeared before they
- 49:17said anything. It's always with me.
- 49:20What he was going to say. Yeah, well, you.
- 49:24Know it was going to be the N word, I think yeah.
- 49:27He. Probably he was pretty cute, but
- 49:29then vocabulary it's. The same person that's just
- 49:33that's just trying to be using soccer accounts perhaps?
- 49:35I think he was going to identify as somebody leaving and then he
- 49:38did, so I appreciate that. Jill, you haven't been.
- 49:44Streaming much for a hot minute and you keep on rescheduling
- 49:47your streams like what's what's the?
- 49:49Other. Day.
- 49:50Use this the next time Matt Dillahunty tells me that
- 49:52atheists are moral people. I definitely got to show up.
- 49:57With how? How?
- 49:57How? Moral You people really are.
- 50:00Let me show you this here real quick.
- 50:02I'll be streaming. I, I, I did this, I did a
- 50:05conference, I had a conversation with ETT.
- 50:06So I'm going to put that up. Oh I I never seen that guy in
- 50:10the wolf. ATT in his.
- 50:12Bowling is not an excuse, by the way, for you to sit there and
- 50:15try to say that, that, that you were just joking or whatever.
- 50:18There's nothing funny about him coming on here saying those kind
- 50:20of things so. Well, yeah.
- 50:23I agree with. That I mean.
- 50:25You know, I mean, Kurt, I mean, being courteous is not difficult
- 50:31and it's not expensive. You just need to show a
- 50:34semblance of decency. But I guess in those
- 50:37environments they have probably plunged them stuff way in a way
- 50:43too deep into the degenerate areas of Reddit.
- 50:46I I I've never used Reddit before, but from what I've seen
- 50:50Reddit is filled to the brim with sweaty butt moist atheists
- 50:56that spend most of their days in their mother's basement just
- 51:00feeding off of their matriarch and getting that sense of
- 51:04purpose by stifling and shit stirring all over the Internet.
- 51:08So I think an experience. With the drunken Peasants
- 51:11doesn't talk about the news from an altar perspective no more
- 51:14than. I don't.
- 51:16Talk about anything but gossip and slander.
- 51:19Looks like we got another. Person peasants.
- 51:21Or they're the drunken peasant now, Because the only person I
- 51:24see on that show really is men, and that's about it.
- 51:26Yeah, but Ben, he had another guy the other night, but I don't
- 51:29know who he was. What was the guy brand?
- 51:31What was the other guy brand or was that?
- 51:33I'm thinking of a different group.
- 51:34What happened to Billy? Second, what?
- 51:36Happened to Billy. Billy Rocket, what's your deal?
- 51:40Hello. Hold on.
- 51:42What's up, Rocket? Well, he tried to say something
- 51:45that didn't work. Sorry, guys.
- 51:47Got to get a better microphone. Something besides the yard sale
- 51:50one. Hey.
- 51:51Jill, look at this. What happened?
- 51:52To Billy. Oh Billy, I think he suffocated
- 51:56on some doughnuts or something like.
- 51:58That at least at. Least at least those.
- 52:02You kind of live up to the hype of me and TJI guess.
- 52:06No, I'm just kidding, he dropped Ben.
- 52:09Obviously you know that TJ and and the rest of the crew, the
- 52:13ones that were actually had at least some amount of ability
- 52:16left for the deep fat fried. So there is Ben and some
- 52:20drunkard they got up there now called shit piss.
- 52:22That needs to follow his pride and go back and get on his hands
- 52:25and knees and beg and kiss TJS feet and get him back on the
- 52:28show. I was just on Knox Channel too.
- 52:32I'm going to upload that too, where Leo tried to argue the
- 52:36Southern Strategy existed. Oh my goodness, you got to see
- 52:40that one. They're never going to.
- 52:45And the big the big political switch.
- 52:48I told them that anymore. Gee man, they're never going to
- 52:52connect with each other again or or have the the full podcast
- 52:56anymore because Ben decided to roofie the girlfriend of Amazing
- 53:01Atheist's brother's girlfriend Taylor Kirk and well, he had sex
- 53:06with her so they don't want to be involved with Ben anymore.
- 53:11So that's what happened, OK. I wouldn't see.
- 53:13Not what? Yeah, Ben's.
- 53:17Ben's essentially by a by a relatively sizable or comparable
- 53:22standard of evidence he applies to everyone else.
- 53:25Ben is a rapist, so you know, keep that in mind.
- 53:30I didn't know that. Rapist, rapist.
- 53:34You got to say Grapes. Come on, Smokey.
- 53:37Oh, man, sorry. If you're ever making wanting to
- 53:41make a video that'll totally pissed him off, go to my radio
- 53:44and you'll hear the interview of the women who declared what he
- 53:48had done to them. So it's all up there.
- 53:50Yeah. You know, if Ben decides he
- 53:55wants to keep throwing trash at me, guess what?
- 53:59I'm really good at it. I'm going to bet I'm better at
- 54:01it than him. So go ahead Ben, you want to you
- 54:03want to have a throw down with all the nonsense?
- 54:06You got a real filthy closet, buddy.
- 54:09Let me get a link I don't have. To hear that, hear that, yeah,
- 54:12I'll just give you the description of my video and
- 54:15click on Brett Keene, Spotify Radio.
- 54:17It's in the top ten list. Yeah, right.
- 54:21You was the one that that originally showed me where the
- 54:24Amazing Atheist used the N word in the video and I didn't know
- 54:28that. And I went on the drunken passes
- 54:29and called him the Amazing Racist.
- 54:31You remember that? Well, I got something that's a
- 54:34lot worse than that over on my rumble page.
- 54:36It was so bad that I couldn't even put it up there.
- 54:39He basically was spouting off about how he likes the the
- 54:43underage girls and all that on video, in audio.
- 54:47And it's over on rumble links also in the description, if
- 54:50you're interested. So I'm going to go look at that
- 54:52too. Yeah.
- 54:55OK, I'll, I'll look at that. I knew these people were
- 54:57weirdos, but my goodness. He.
- 55:00He needs a wife. Yeah, he probably.
- 55:04Yeah, he definitely. One at the Legal Aid.
- 55:08Who? Who would have them?
- 55:11I'm sure all the ladies are hoping he's one of the red pill
- 55:13guys and they'll leave them alone so.
- 55:18You're watching this and you want to come in here and defend
- 55:19the honor of Ben. If you believe he's innocent,
- 55:21come in here. Oh yes.
- 55:23Please. Oh, please do.
- 55:25Yes, please do. We got someone who's had Lovely.
- 55:29You'll come. Here and defend them.
- 55:31Someone's actually claiming to be Ben with a DP logo.
- 55:34You guys want to give them a shot?
- 55:36Absolutely. Let's count the N words.
- 55:39Let's count them. That's not Ben.
- 55:40Let's be nice with the racial slurs, all right?
- 55:45Yeah. Yep.
- 55:45Yep. Yep, Yep, Yep.
- 55:46Thank you. Yeah, I could have told you
- 55:48that. Whenever.
- 55:49It's like a generic letters like they they probably just made it
- 55:53sock up. Yeah, I hear you.
- 55:55It will smoke, actually, Actually.
- 55:58I'm hold on. I'm going to go out on a limb
- 56:00and say that still might have actually been bad, and we don't.
- 56:03We don't know. And if I could just say that was
- 56:06impressive in that short span of time.
- 56:09He drops 2 inwards. That was quick.
- 56:12Yeah, it was rough. We got another one.
- 56:14I think the N word is going to get the channel strip down
- 56:16because it's not, I don't think no, there's that's the, you
- 56:21know, they could, they had to stop doing that because
- 56:23actually, what happened, not a lot of people know about this.
- 56:25They didn't advertise it, but apparently black media creators
- 56:29like to use that word pretty commonly.
- 56:32And So what happened is when they were flagging some of the
- 56:34videos where they were quote UN quote, silencing black voices
- 56:37and it became a whole thing. So now, yeah, you can pretty
- 56:40much say that without much. So.
- 56:42Yeah, All right, so looks like you're going to have to take
- 56:46your little weevie out to get Brett off the the air off of
- 56:50YouTube. I think it'd be better like they
- 56:53they. Well, I don't want to get my
- 56:54ideas. I'm sorry.
- 56:55I I won't say what I was going to say.
- 56:58No one will see. It's a lot easier to stop them
- 57:00from porn bombing you now. All you got to do is put a
- 57:02little poster up and they can't see anything.
- 57:05Yeah, I know Brett. Brett was doing that.
- 57:06Yeah. Yeah, you got to do that every
- 57:08time for the atheists. Man, you people are the worst
- 57:12people on the planet. Every single way.
- 57:22Like every definition of evil, it's just permeating in the
- 57:26atheist blood and veins. Oh, I forgot you were here.
- 57:33Midnight. I'm sorry.
- 57:37They can't say that they're not racist because there's a lot of
- 57:39words you can't use on social media.
- 57:42They just chose that, you know? And get people.
- 57:45Angry and we're not. They got to do better than that,
- 57:47that's for sure. But in case in case we have any
- 57:51atheist stream this right now, I'd love to do this to them.
- 57:55There you go, look at those facts, non?
- 57:57Believers whoa the. Highest.
- 58:00Suicide rate on the planet if he's at the highest.
- 58:04Substance abuse and drug abuse on the planet.
- 58:07You know why they, they, he, he tried to basically boycott you,
- 58:14Brett, and told people not to go to your channel because you did
- 58:19a video actually explaining who the Minnesota, Minnesota school.
- 58:27You know what is? Minneapolis, OR.
- 58:30Minnesota, Minneapolis. I'm sorry.
- 58:32Thank you. You.
- 58:33You did a stream actually explaining who this person was a
- 58:36trans woman going after Christian children again once
- 58:44again. And and you were the only one
- 58:47that you were the only one that reported on this.
- 58:50Actually, I couldn't even find right wing outlets that are
- 58:53reporting on this. So so thanks.
- 58:56Thank you, Brett. Well, unfortunately I went ahead
- 59:00and I went ahead and posted it. It's on my radio because I don't
- 59:03have any issues over there. But they he told people on
- 59:07Twitter to basically flag it down and all that for hate.
- 59:10So I had to. How is it hate speech?
- 59:13You were reporting on what happened.
- 59:15Well, you know how they are. And unfortunately, YouTube's
- 59:17investigative ability just ain't that awesome.
- 59:21We got Erica. Is this the Erica from down
- 59:23below in the comments? Might might be what's the what's
- 59:29the emblem? I can't see it because you have
- 59:31that you have that banner. I guess we'll find out real
- 59:35quick what's up there. Oh yeah, I.
- 59:37Guess. Yeah.
- 59:39Oh, no. So now they're certainly use
- 59:41your friend Brett, by the way, he stole the avatar.
- 59:46Brett. By the way, my wife posted a
- 59:48link and side chat you might be interested in.
- 59:50What? What is it, sweetheart?
- 59:52Oh, just just click it. She recommend you just click it
- 59:57and show it. Apparently it's something.
- 1:00:03There's an unlisted video in there apparently.
- 1:00:05That's very poignant and interesting.
- 1:00:06I guess the I guess it's a Ben topic.
- 1:00:09Is it a Ben situation? Is it related to Ben?
- 1:00:12Hey. People cut their camera.
- 1:00:14On it is it's related to Ben Early.
- 1:00:15Use the N word. You can get a screenshot of them
- 1:00:18before they get an opportunity to to get on here and use the
- 1:00:22network like that because you have your face.
- 1:00:25Unfortunately, if I try to go through all that right now while
- 1:00:28streaming to all these different things, it might it might mess
- 1:00:32up the broadcast. Oh hold on, you know what?
- 1:00:34I can actually do it if you want me to get on my computer.
- 1:00:37Sure. It's a Reddit.
- 1:00:38This is like a Reddit website. Because once you get their face
- 1:00:45and they start using the N word, you know what I mean, you can
- 1:00:47just plant them out there as being a racist and they can try
- 1:00:49to sit there and say they're trolling to the blue in the
- 1:00:51face. And I did this over and over and
- 1:00:53over and over and over again. Now, G man, I don't know if you
- 1:00:57had seen this or you realize this, this is definitely going
- 1:01:00to bring a smile to your face, but Paul's Eagle apparently
- 1:01:03decided to go on an even bigger atheist YouTube channel.
- 1:01:06Voss, you know the guy that's in the horse cock.
- 1:01:09Well, what happens is is that he gets on their debate.
- 1:01:12I'm I'm not kidding. That's true.
- 1:01:14You can type it in Google Tell. Us getting weirder and weirder.
- 1:01:19So Paul's Eagle goes on to Voss's channel to have a debate,
- 1:01:23and Voss just tore his cast to pieces.
- 1:01:26It was so sad to watch. I had to get out of my Kleenex,
- 1:01:29my ibuprofen, everything. But Paul got humiliated.
- 1:01:34So he's that. He's not doing too well on that.
- 1:01:36And he's been obsessed with Walsh ever since.
- 1:01:41Yeah. So.
- 1:01:42Yeah. So apparently the synopsis of
- 1:01:44this, and it's in the side chat if you guys want to go look at
- 1:01:47it. Did you post it in mine or
- 1:01:48Brett's, sweetheart? Which one?
- 1:01:50Mine. OK, so in my side chat on my
- 1:01:52channel and I guess you would say the synopsis is TJ Kirk's
- 1:01:56sister-in-law accused Ben from the drunken presence of grape,
- 1:01:59emotional abuse and possibly drugging her.
- 1:02:02And this has kind of that full synopsis including an unlisted
- 1:02:06video which is her interview. So we got that out there too.
- 1:02:10Who did this and the other alleged victim?
- 1:02:13Saying this happened. I'm not saying this happened or
- 1:02:16it didn't, but what I am saying is there's two women who spent
- 1:02:20two hours giving interviews saying that this maybe happened.
- 1:02:23She doesn't know if she was drugged or not.
- 1:02:25To be fair, she does basically say she has no idea if she was
- 1:02:28drugged or not, but she does know that she was unconscious
- 1:02:32for what happened. Would it would it benefit the
- 1:02:36show if if you guys want me to share it on screen so we could
- 1:02:40all just watch it here or is it not going to be I I wouldn't who
- 1:02:47we talking about? I would I would just recommend
- 1:02:49everyone pull it up on their own time and go yeah, OK, OK, OK,
- 1:02:55OK, OK. So I'm not going to because
- 1:02:57there is some, you know, NSFW words and.
- 1:03:02Yeah. You.
- 1:03:03Know. Yeah, it's labeled with NSFW.
- 1:03:06OK, I'm. Sorry.
- 1:03:07I'm sorry about that, I'm not going.
- 1:03:09To no, that's but it is a private.
- 1:03:12Yeah, OK. Are we talking about Bill?
- 1:03:17Collins. The two stories are pretty
- 1:03:19strikingly similar. Not so similar that you would
- 1:03:22think that they were made-up, but similar enough that it looks
- 1:03:24like a pattern of behavior from a serial predator.
- 1:03:27I will say that Cosby. Ben Cosby What the?
- 1:03:36Brett. Yeah, about switch devices here
- 1:03:40in a second. Yeah.
- 1:03:42What's up to you, Ben? Have you ever thought about
- 1:03:44debating deconstruction? Zone.
- 1:03:47I went into his room a few times.
- 1:03:49He never allows me up on the the panel.
- 1:03:52He knows that I'll, I'll bend his ass over my knee and spank
- 1:03:55him like a little monkey that he is.
- 1:03:58So guys here, I'm going to share something with you in private
- 1:04:01chat. I had this in a notepad.
- 1:04:03This wouldn't cause me any kind of Internet issues.
- 1:04:06Do not play it on the screen. It's absolutely horrific.
- 1:04:09But this is the amazing atheist admitting that he well, you'll,
- 1:04:14you'll have to see for yourself. There's the link so feel free to
- 1:04:17copy it and use it if you like in your own videos.
- 1:04:20I already tried uploading it into a short and YouTube did not
- 1:04:25like it. The DP went after it very
- 1:04:27quickly. It's pretty rough.
- 1:04:30Hey guys, I'm going to go grab my fresh cup of coffee.
- 1:04:32Give me just give me 5 minutes. Funny enough, I almost imagined
- 1:04:36Ben isn't going to want to cover this stream.
- 1:04:44So this is on Rumble Rumble. Right, Smokey, did you get?
- 1:04:46Yeah, Smokey, did you get the link?
- 1:04:48You should show Lou as well. It is just rough.
- 1:04:51Let me go ahead and see if I can get this post.
- 1:04:53Is it is it in private chat? Where'd you put it?
- 1:04:56Private chat as well as main chat.
- 1:04:59OK, there we go. But we can't we can't play a
- 1:05:03video like this on the screen, right?
- 1:05:05Right. Yeah.
- 1:05:06OK, Yeah, I'm going to save this.
- 1:05:10Actually. I'll send it to my cell phone
- 1:05:11Discord. I could probably edit it out,
- 1:05:15turn it to a comedy video and show everybody the original
- 1:05:17video and the link or whatever. There you go.
- 1:05:21What's the way to do it, guy? Feels like that I can use to
- 1:05:23shut deconstruction zone and Matt Delahunty up when he
- 1:05:26started talking about how atheist and one moral than
- 1:05:28Christians. But we're really not talking
- 1:05:32about the actual subject. And that is, Ben is clearly in
- 1:05:35love with Brett and I want to know the root cause of that.
- 1:05:39Well, it's probably because of, first of all, he kept on making
- 1:05:43videos and streaming my stream. So I some people ended up
- 1:05:47letting me know, hey, have you heard these witness recordings
- 1:05:50these girls talking about and all that?
- 1:05:52So I said, man, that that sounds like that would be something
- 1:05:55that needs to be up on the radio for the world to hear and stuff
- 1:05:58in order to protect the innocent.
- 1:06:00I don't think that's it, Brett. I think it's your voice.
- 1:06:02You have that soft, soothing voice, it's easy to fall in love
- 1:06:06with. It's true.
- 1:06:08That's the same with the man that Smokey as well.
- 1:06:10They just, they can't get enough of us.
- 1:06:13Let's see what O2's got for us. Hello 2.
- 1:06:15The same word, nothing different.
- 1:06:17The same word. Hello, 2.
- 1:06:19First off, I got to say, are you cool?
- 1:06:22Yeah. Same word, right?
- 1:06:24Yeah, not what word. All right, so 2 what's your
- 1:06:28theological position and political disposition?
- 1:06:32I consider myself a centrist, and I'm a Christian.
- 1:06:35All right, well, welcome to the room, too, It looks like.
- 1:06:39Well, Victor, I was about to let you have a chance, but you're.
- 1:06:42It says that it's your camera and microphones disabled, so I
- 1:06:46can't get you up on the screen. Sorry.
- 1:06:49All right, so to tell me about yourself.
- 1:06:51What's your story? I just don't like Nick.
- 1:06:54Nice. Wow.
- 1:06:57Claims to be a Christian, was that not?
- 1:07:00Successive. Or what?
- 1:07:02Well, when he said scent dressed, I was a little like all
- 1:07:05right, I guess like no one says centrist Christian, like no one
- 1:07:10says that. Like what?
- 1:07:11What even is that? You know what I mean?
- 1:07:13Like that was that was a, you know, first time suddenly.
- 1:07:15Agreed. I was baffled.
- 1:07:17Also, yeah. That, that was certainly a
- 1:07:19liberal. Yes, yes, yes.
- 1:07:22Sorry Smokey, you did tell me to give people a chance.
- 1:07:25So. Yeah, no, I mean that, Yeah.
- 1:07:27I mean, it's Fight Night for me, so yeah, whatever, you know, can
- 1:07:31anybody come in here and try to give a challenge?
- 1:07:37It's not like. Brand capable of doing that.
- 1:07:40I'm definitely convinced of that.
- 1:07:41These atheists have gone from and I ain't talking about the
- 1:07:44ones in this room that's in here now, but the atheists that are
- 1:07:48out there watching and trying to beat everybody in with that
- 1:07:51racist garbage. These people are brain dead.
- 1:07:53They don't got no cells, no brain cells in order to talk
- 1:07:56about anything. Guess who's getting his teeth
- 1:07:59kicked in right now? Debating Jim Bob.
- 1:08:05Mark. Mark Reed.
- 1:08:08Oh man. Torn apart.
- 1:08:10Mark Reed. Is.
- 1:08:11Mark Reed's going to get wrecked on that one.
- 1:08:13Yeah, try. Why don't we keep messing with
- 1:08:16this guy? Let's let him go back to his
- 1:08:17farm and grow his potatoes. You can't debate this guy.
- 1:08:22I don't think atheists can debate even, you know the layman
- 1:08:27anymore. They don't debate at all.
- 1:08:29They just. You can only say I'm not
- 1:08:31convinced. But so long before you start
- 1:08:32getting old, corny and tired and don't know what you're talking
- 1:08:35about. Now you know.
- 1:08:37Now they're trying to get us to convince.
- 1:08:39I'm not convinced. Yeah, now that's not right.
- 1:08:42Now they're trying to get us to convince them to believe in God.
- 1:08:45That Wasn't that your father's job?
- 1:08:47That's not my job. My job, that's my job.
- 1:08:51Oh, convince me God exists. That's not my job.
- 1:08:54Yes, Sir. That was your daddy's job.
- 1:08:55That was. That's not my job.
- 1:08:56I'm a man, Tam. Tam, you want to come in and
- 1:09:01hang out with us a little bit? If there's any atheist out
- 1:09:05there, none of us in here have some kind of hatred towards
- 1:09:08atheist. Just because DP is a bunch of
- 1:09:10psychopaths doesn't mean that we're going to give you any
- 1:09:13problems. If you want to come in and have
- 1:09:15a discussion and be cool, we'll talk to you.
- 1:09:19You know, it's, it's just the way it is.
- 1:09:20We don't bite, we're not going to punch you, we're not going to
- 1:09:22smack you and nothing like that. Just coming here with a brain
- 1:09:25cell and let's have a conversation you.
- 1:09:27Know we're not going to try to convince you God exists, or at
- 1:09:29least not. Especially when we already know
- 1:09:33you know he exists. You suppress exactly.
- 1:09:36Roman, right. We might have the real raging
- 1:09:40knock coming in. Hold on.
- 1:09:42Really. Maybe.
- 1:09:44Knock. Is that you?
- 1:09:47Yes. Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:09:48What up? What's going on, man?
- 1:09:51I missed one on man. Oh, yeah.
- 1:09:53Yeah. I'm back, bitches.
- 1:09:57They had so many, they they had so many trolls coming and they
- 1:09:59wanted, they weren't sure whether you want the real.
- 1:10:03One I've definitely had my trolls for I've had, I've had
- 1:10:06people impersonate me, but no, I'm I'm back.
- 1:10:09I don't know if I'm, I don't know.
- 1:10:11I'm not, I'm not the I'm I'm not like the atheist I used to be.
- 1:10:16So I don't know if I'm an atheist as you're referring to.
- 1:10:20It's all good. Well, I said raging knocked and
- 1:10:22all that. So what it what is your view?
- 1:10:24I mean, it sounds like there's a little bit of difficulty
- 1:10:27explaining it, but you know, I'm open minded.
- 1:10:29I'll hear you out. No, I was.
- 1:10:32So I, I think it's fairly simple.
- 1:10:35I came to a realization after a process of a nervous breakdown
- 1:10:39where I almost, almost thought there might be a possibility of
- 1:10:43a God and, and just came to the conclusion that there's a lot
- 1:10:47that I don't know, Imagine that like there's like, and I can't
- 1:10:52possibly know what I don't know. And so I'm, I'm going to like,
- 1:10:56stop making truth claims, right? Like, I'm going to stop saying
- 1:10:58like there is no God. And then I started reading,
- 1:11:02reading some of the philosophies that I, I, I really been able to
- 1:11:05apply to my life and, and kind of a philosophical secular
- 1:11:08fashion. So I kind of practice a
- 1:11:12spiritual walk of like philosophical Taoism and
- 1:11:15Buddhism mixed with some my old, you know, cultural Native
- 1:11:20American spirituality, universal Native American spirituality.
- 1:11:24But I philosophically speaking, I, I still don't believe in a
- 1:11:27God, a supernatural being. I think that there's mysteries
- 1:11:29in the universe that we can't there's, there's mysteries that
- 1:11:33we won't know about as a species, might never know about
- 1:11:36as a species. And there's mysteries like that
- 1:11:39we might discover over the next course of however many thousands
- 1:11:42of years. But there's, you know, there's,
- 1:11:45there's a, there's an infinite amount of information out there.
- 1:11:47I believe in this universe alone for us to to to keep seeking for
- 1:11:51it until we have a better understanding.
- 1:11:54So to you, atheism is just a rejection of a supernatural
- 1:11:57deity there, right? Before, I think it's a
- 1:12:00philosophical rejection. Yeah.
- 1:12:02Before we get into any heavy duty discussion, which I know
- 1:12:05Knox always up for some excitement.
- 1:12:08But Knox, can I ask you, how's your health been?
- 1:12:11I mean, it's like I'm, I'm pretty good, honestly.
- 1:12:14Like I've lost a good bit of weight, you know, So like it's
- 1:12:18good and bad. I'm, I'm probably going to live
- 1:12:21a lot longer, but my legs are shit, you know?
- 1:12:24So, you know, the truth is the truth.
- 1:12:27Reality is reality. I, I think that I, I, I've done
- 1:12:30it myself a lot of justice by losing weight and, and cleaning
- 1:12:36up my diet and, you know, stop the drinking and all of that
- 1:12:39stuff. So yeah, yeah, I've, you know,
- 1:12:42I, I feel pretty good. You guys don't mind me putting
- 1:12:45you 2 up on the top of the screen.
- 1:12:47We got 2 beautiful people in here.
- 1:12:49I figured the you don't have, you don't have to solo me.
- 1:12:52Me and G Man's talked a few times before.
- 1:12:56OK, so you believe that philosophically, atheism is the
- 1:12:59rejection of a supernatural God, right?
- 1:13:02Sure. I thought atheism was the
- 1:13:05position or the default position of a God.
- 1:13:08Not no God exists in 0, not a nothing.
- 1:13:10Zilch. I mean, if you want to define it
- 1:13:13that way, then I'm not an atheist any longer.
- 1:13:16I used to be. Last time we spoke I was that
- 1:13:18kind of atheist. But I'm not.
- 1:13:20So if you want to define it that way, then I would say I'm not an
- 1:13:22atheist. All.
- 1:13:23Right, because mostly these atheists out here, they, they
- 1:13:26argue that there's no such thing as a concept of a God.
- 1:13:28There's no God at all, no evidence for it.
- 1:13:30Or of course I you, you already know it.
- 1:13:32I disagree with that. So as far as non non non
- 1:13:37supernatural gods, can the atheists believe in a non
- 1:13:40supernatural God? Yes.
- 1:13:45Why? Because I mean it, it depends on
- 1:13:50your definition of God, right? So like, if I were to like say
- 1:13:55that an, an unconscious force that that has pretty much, and
- 1:14:03I, and I would call that force like life, you know, not, not
- 1:14:06just life here on Earth, you know, not, not, not the living
- 1:14:09planet of Earth, not, not human life, not, not plant life, not
- 1:14:13any life here, but just life as and the universe.
- 1:14:17So life and versus not life, yin and Yang, right.
- 1:14:20And so like, could that be, could that, you know,
- 1:14:24unconscious force that is the guiding force of life?
- 1:14:29Could that not be considered a God?
- 1:14:31If that could be considered a God then I could say like yes,
- 1:14:33an atheist could worship a God that's not supernatural.
- 1:14:37OK, but it but the word atheist means to be without.
- 1:14:40Or not atheist. I mean I I guess it would.
- 1:14:43Be the wrong word. And if you believe in any type
- 1:14:48of God whatsoever, then you have.
- 1:14:50Well I mean it depends on how you define God.
- 1:14:52Like if God If you define God by being supernatural, then sure.
- 1:14:57No, then it's not possible. Well, most atheists define God
- 1:15:00is being supernatural. It's very rare do I ever hear
- 1:15:02them talking. About I'm not, like I said, I've
- 1:15:04kind of changed. I'm kind of like a hippie or
- 1:15:06something. I don't know.
- 1:15:07OK, I'm and I'm very happy to hear that that, that, that
- 1:15:10you're getting closer and closer to being agnostic or whatever.
- 1:15:12But the point of the matter is if you can be an atheist and you
- 1:15:16can believe in the non supernatural God, then you can't
- 1:15:18be an atheist. You got to claim to be something
- 1:15:20else. Because that's what I think.
- 1:15:23Sure. Don't even exist.
- 1:15:25I say that atheists are more like.
- 1:15:27It's probably, it's probably why I stopped using the name Raging
- 1:15:30Atheist. And I'm just like, knock, no, I
- 1:15:34don't know, like, like, so like, like I said, it all depends on
- 1:15:37how you define atheist. So like by your definition, I'm
- 1:15:39clearly not an atheist. I would be more agnostic when it
- 1:15:42comes to like, but I, I mean, I look more agnostic in terms of
- 1:15:46like, it's agnosticism. It's just like a lack of belief
- 1:15:50in a thing or, or lack of knowledge in a thing.
- 1:15:53So like, you know, I don't know. Like I said, there's a lot in
- 1:15:57the world that we just don't know.
- 1:15:59A lack of knowledge or that you think that you can't know if
- 1:16:02that thing existed? Sure.
- 1:16:04Yeah, you can't know that. It's not possible to know.
- 1:16:07All right, all right, so, so again, I'll say this again,
- 1:16:09because I know a lot of the atheists are watching this.
- 1:16:11I don't believe that a person can claim to be atheist if you
- 1:16:13can believe in a in a non supernatural God.
- 1:16:15Because if you're going to say that you're an atheist, that
- 1:16:17means you're without theism. And if you're without theism,
- 1:16:20you can't believe in any type of deity whatsoever.
- 1:16:22And that includes self. Why do you get to determine what
- 1:16:25we are? Why do I get to do it?
- 1:16:27Because I'm simply listening to your claim on analyzing it and
- 1:16:30I'm coming to a conclusion they look based.
- 1:16:32On based on the definition that who?
- 1:16:36From my perspective for a minute, they look at me and they
- 1:16:38say that I'm worshipping the boogeyman on worshipping Casper
- 1:16:42the Friendly ghost. And they offer their opinions.
- 1:16:44Some of them will say I have a mental illness because I believe
- 1:16:47in a deity or whatever. You know what I mean?
- 1:16:49If they can do that, then certainly I can listen to the
- 1:16:51atheist thing, think about what's being said and come up
- 1:16:54with my own conclusion. And my conclusion is if you can
- 1:16:57believe in a non supernatural God, then you're no atheist.
- 1:17:00You're probably a misotheist or anti theist, but you're not a
- 1:17:03you're not an atheist. Well anti theist wouldn't have
- 1:17:06anything to do with it. I think it would be probably
- 1:17:08more like AI don't know would. Be.
- 1:17:12Pantheist, something like that. Like, I don't know, like what
- 1:17:15I'm talking about is like, so there's life and there's non
- 1:17:18life and within that life, maybe maybe there's some kind of, I
- 1:17:21don't know, unconscious force that's kind of like guiding,
- 1:17:26guiding some kind of thing that I can't possibly know because
- 1:17:29I'm on this spinning rock and you know, I'm like isolated and
- 1:17:33I'm surrounded by a bunch of living monkeys that want to tell
- 1:17:35me a bunch of different things that I'm supposed to believe is
- 1:17:38absolute truth. But what is absolute truth?
- 1:17:41Absolute truth. It's it's the truth without any
- 1:17:44flaws or anything wrong in it. Is that even possible?
- 1:17:48Absolutely. In the post truth era, is that
- 1:17:50still possible? Yep.
- 1:17:53I don't think it is I. Think it is, I know it is.
- 1:17:56Prove to me that. Prove me that.
- 1:17:58Prove to me that it's even remotely possible.
- 1:18:00One scenario you can't come up with one scenario, fictional or
- 1:18:04non fictional, where rape is OK. Where rape is OK, Yeah.
- 1:18:11Come up with one scenario. There's or you can use.
- 1:18:16Infinity Gauntlet. You can use whatever you want,
- 1:18:19just come up with one scenario. We rate this OK because I say
- 1:18:22it's wrong 100%. At the time God, God enters a
- 1:18:29virgin to create a seat so all of humanity's sin can be washed
- 1:18:34away. God did not enter into a virgin.
- 1:18:38He kind of did. And Mary was of the Holy Spirit,
- 1:18:41and the Spirit doesn't have any sexual organs.
- 1:18:44Did Mary consent? The Spirit of God does not have
- 1:18:49any. Sexual did Did Mary consent?
- 1:18:53I don't think Mary had much of A choice, but it wasn't.
- 1:18:55So, so rape. What was what was conceived that
- 1:18:58Mary was created? You just said like Mary didn't
- 1:19:01have much of A choice. I'm sorry.
- 1:19:04You just said Mary didn't have much of A choice.
- 1:19:06But you're presupposing that Mary had sex and she didn't with
- 1:19:10a. Spirit how How else do you have
- 1:19:12a baby have. Sex with Hold on a minute, how
- 1:19:14does the spirit have sex with a final?
- 1:19:16I don't know. I'm not a spirit.
- 1:19:19I don't know. But how do you how how do human
- 1:19:23beings have babies? It's.
- 1:19:24Always come out and they say that God violated Mary and had
- 1:19:27sex with Mary with no sexual organs, which makes no
- 1:19:29scientific sense whatsoever. At all?
- 1:19:32I don't know, you told me to give you an example.
- 1:19:33Hello Dad. Bro, sorry.
- 1:19:35I want to let people know that you're all still in the room.
- 1:19:39It's just we're down below. So if you have any questions for
- 1:19:43G Man or Mr. Knock, go ahead Knock.
- 1:19:46I would ask that you put your YouTube channel out.
- 1:19:48So not. Subscribe to the new setup.
- 1:19:52Well, it's it's still like the old channel.
- 1:19:54I just changed the name Knock TV.
- 1:19:57But listen, rape former the artist formerly known as a
- 1:20:00raging atheist. OK, there's no such thing as an
- 1:20:03atheist. I wish you guys start getting
- 1:20:04mad about that because I got to endure the atheist experience,
- 1:20:07the construction zone and all these other insults that we got
- 1:20:10to endure on a regular basis. So I'm pretty sure she didn't
- 1:20:13say that. Analyze it.
- 1:20:15And we say, you know what? You people ain't really
- 1:20:16atheists. What you really are is a bunch
- 1:20:18of missile theists, anti atheists, and you're just angry
- 1:20:20at God because you didn't get that pony that you prayed for.
- 1:20:22You know what I mean? And then they're going to tell
- 1:20:23me that I believe in the boogeyman.
- 1:20:25So you know. Whatever.
- 1:20:27I got a question for Knock Knock.
- 1:20:28How does rape happen with no penis?
- 1:20:34Hey, Knock, you know you really had a better You had a better
- 1:20:36one than that, too. Tell us how that works
- 1:20:38scientifically. I would love to hear that.
- 1:20:41Let me get my notebook yeah pen here so I can.
- 1:20:43Figure this one out. Who said God doesn't have a
- 1:20:45penis? The Bible How is this an
- 1:20:49internal critique? Or are you making up your own
- 1:20:51God? And then how does the how does
- 1:20:53the Bible say that God doesn't have a God is spirit?
- 1:20:56Do you mean they already answered that?
- 1:20:57Were you paying attention? Where in the Bible does it say
- 1:20:59God is spirit? See I remember I remember God in
- 1:21:02in the garden of Eden that felt the wind brush into a spirit.
- 1:21:06I remember a God in the garden of Eden that couldn't find Adam.
- 1:21:13I also remember that it wasn't necessarily God that actually
- 1:21:17came down and talked, you know, had the confrontation with Mary.
- 1:21:22It was the Angel Gabriel. Which actor do you think played
- 1:21:25Jesus in the garden? Was it was it, was it Russell
- 1:21:30Crowe or do you think or that was made that was Abraham?
- 1:21:35I mean, everybody's G man finds you funny, Jill, but I literally
- 1:21:40all right, so everybody knows and Smokey's aware I was
- 1:21:42streaming earlier and I literally Jill, I gave you like
- 1:21:453 hours straight to just get scalloped.
- 1:21:47So like, and it just this doesn't happen to me and me and
- 1:21:50G man thing. This is kind of weird.
- 1:21:52I didn't mean to, I didn't, I didn't quite know what I was
- 1:21:54walking into. Like Smokey came in my stream
- 1:21:56earlier and he said he he you know, he shot me an invite to he
- 1:21:59said he was streaming. I gave you 3 hours and by the
- 1:22:03way, knock, just so you know, this is like a dual stream
- 1:22:05thing. It Brett streaming it, but I'm
- 1:22:07also streaming to my channel. So it's a dual stream.
- 1:22:09I'm not mad or nothing like fuck, you know, that's what's
- 1:22:13going on. Just if you were you were
- 1:22:14wondering, I'm like, holy shit, G man still alive.
- 1:22:17Fuck. I'm doing.
- 1:22:21Quite well. So not knocking G man.
- 1:22:24The reason why I put you 2 up front is it's been a while since
- 1:22:27I've gotten to talk to you and see how you guys are doing.
- 1:22:30And I'm really happy that you're both doing well.
- 1:22:32You're both looking real good and everything.
- 1:22:34And keep the health up, all right.
- 1:22:36Hey, how you doing? Yo.
- 1:22:39That's Chris Keith. How you doing, buddy?
- 1:22:40How's your daughter? Good man.
- 1:22:41Oh pretty good. You know, she's 15 year old
- 1:22:43daughter, you know, 15 year old girl refused.
- 1:22:46Trying to figure it out, you know?
- 1:22:48Mom still craziest man, still craziest ever.
- 1:22:51Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to put this.
- 1:22:53Hey, are you are you on the you still on your Cherokee thing?
- 1:22:58Oh yeah. OK, I just heard you say you
- 1:23:01might not be atheist anymore. Oh yeah, no, well, I mean, I'm,
- 1:23:05I'm still an atheist. Technically.
- 1:23:07I don't believe in a supernatural being.
- 1:23:09I don't, I don't, I don't really have a God at all.
- 1:23:11Like, you know, Taoism isn't like so Buddhism is like a non
- 1:23:16deistic religion. So like some, some Buddhist
- 1:23:19have, have a God. You know, I'm a philosophical
- 1:23:22Buddhist. I, I don't, I don't believe like
- 1:23:24Buddha is a God or anything. I just like some of the
- 1:23:27philosophy of it. But like I'm more like what I'm
- 1:23:31really into right now is like Taoism.
- 1:23:33Taoism is it's pretty much just like a a no know thyself
- 1:23:38grasshopper type deal. No, I'm not religious.
- 1:23:43If you're a Taoist or if you're a Buddhist, you're religious.
- 1:23:46I'm a philosophical Daoist and Buddhist and that's it's not
- 1:23:49religious, it's philosophical. Religious and if you're
- 1:23:51religious, according to the atheist community.
- 1:23:55If he's Daoist he can say he's non dogmatic.
- 1:23:59I don't believe in deity. Let him define religious.
- 1:24:02What does it mean to be religious to me?
- 1:24:05To me, religious is like doctrine, you know, like there's
- 1:24:09some kind of doctrine that I must follow.
- 1:24:11And I don't mean teaching. So you don't have teachings that
- 1:24:14you endow with and doesn't have teachings.
- 1:24:18I mean teachings. Everything's a teaching.
- 1:24:20Life is teaching, but life is a teaching.
- 1:24:24But like, yeah, I mean, I, I I have a copy of the doctrine
- 1:24:28religious. You can't use doctrine.
- 1:24:30I mean doctrine. I mean not really.
- 1:24:33No, it's a philosophy always doesn't have teachings.
- 1:24:36No, not really is Have you ever read the Dao Dei Ching?
- 1:24:41Probably excerpts. They I don't I don't think
- 1:24:44anybody would call Dao Dei Ching doctrine.
- 1:24:48They are teachings. Are they not teaching you
- 1:24:50something? I mean, Lord of the Rings
- 1:24:53teaches me something. The artist formerly known as the
- 1:24:56Raging Atheist is Arnold Rod Religious.
- 1:25:02No, he. He can only is Levaean.
- 1:25:06Satan Levaean Satanist is, Yeah, I would say probably not.
- 1:25:09Well, I I don't know. I don't know enough about it.
- 1:25:12He's a religious. I, I put a video up of Aaron Rod
- 1:25:15admitting I don't know. I don't know enough about it.
- 1:25:17I've got a video on my channel where Aaron Ross says he's a
- 1:25:20Satanist. Well, I I just don't know about
- 1:25:23enough enough about that form of Satanist to to determine whether
- 1:25:26or not it's a. Religion.
- 1:25:27Nothing. Is this though?
- 1:25:28If Aura is a Satanist and he's religious, how can he be against
- 1:25:32religion? Well, I'm not granting that he's
- 1:25:34religious, I just don't know enough information.
- 1:25:37Why don't you say cultural Christian?
- 1:25:40I mean, just I, I could say, I could say I'm a Calvin
- 1:25:43Johnsonist. Does that make me like a
- 1:25:45follower of a Calvin Johnson religion?
- 1:25:47Or do I just think like Calvin Johnson is not wrong philosophy
- 1:25:50and the teachings of yeah. But is he a Satanist that
- 1:25:57follows Satanist dogma or is he a Satanist more of a political
- 1:26:01statement? I don't know.
- 1:26:03I don't know enough about it. I'd have to get more information
- 1:26:05to give you a definitive answer. My honor raw for him to sit
- 1:26:09there and say that you know I'm against religion while being
- 1:26:12religious. Do you have like some kind?
- 1:26:14Like why do you not like Honor RA?
- 1:26:16Because. Why do I like Honor RA?
- 1:26:19Why? Why do you not like Honor RA?
- 1:26:21Honor RAW attacks Christ all the time.
- 1:26:23This. This so why?
- 1:26:24So? Why should you not like him?
- 1:26:26Does he attack you all the time? Me honor, Raw knows.
- 1:26:29He knows how crush. Him, I mean, but does he attack
- 1:26:34you all the time? Yeah, R&R wouldn't dare.
- 1:26:37I would crush him. Then why do you hate him?
- 1:26:39Like, if he doesn't dare, you know, attack you?
- 1:26:42I mean, it's clearly he respects you.
- 1:26:44Why do you hate him? Did he ever say you hated him?
- 1:26:47No, he doesn't respect. But he's, he's showing like mad
- 1:26:49disrespect for this dude. Like, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:26:53I don't know. Maybe you don't.
- 1:26:54Maybe you don't. Maybe he hates a strong word.
- 1:26:56Why? Why are you, why are you asking
- 1:26:58me about R&R? Like, aren't we having a
- 1:27:00conversation? Real quick.
- 1:27:01Real quick hold. On renounce.
- 1:27:05Atheism, gentlemen. Gentlemen, I haven't renounced
- 1:27:07atheism. All right.
- 1:27:09Who renounced atheism? Iron raw I think.
- 1:27:11Secretly you have. Me, gentlemen, gentlemen.
- 1:27:14I mean, Conan, what are you trying to share on the screen?
- 1:27:17Oh, I thought we were still on the topic of, you know, the
- 1:27:21virgin birth. So I thought I'll go and look
- 1:27:23into Luke 1 and share this. We got to let you got to let me
- 1:27:27and smoke. He knows so we can do that for
- 1:27:29you. Well, I'm really sorry about
- 1:27:31that. I didn't mean to just float
- 1:27:33around. No, I think we got a lot of
- 1:27:37people. I got to understand.
- 1:27:39We got a lot of people backstage right now and it's hard to be
- 1:27:42able to see it. So you got to give me like if
- 1:27:44somebody wants to share something, you got to let me
- 1:27:46know because there's so many people in the room right now.
- 1:27:50Let me see. We even got some other person
- 1:27:52here that just popped in. Hello, Victor.
- 1:27:55What's your story? Same person?
- 1:27:58Not Yeah, It's the same party city, you hear The same
- 1:28:02background. Yeah, do you?
- 1:28:04Need room I could leave. Your what hurts.
- 1:28:08I said do you need room? I could leave.
- 1:28:10You do what with a mop? No, you're good.
- 1:28:13You can hang out now. It's it's cool.
- 1:28:15Are you going to participate in the conversation?
- 1:28:18Try to help. Well, get in there then, Guy,
- 1:28:21what are you doing? You know that when G Man and
- 1:28:23Knock are in here, they're the rulers of the world.
- 1:28:25You got to get in there if you got something to say.
- 1:28:28Hey, no. What about what about Detroit
- 1:28:30last year? Man, I'm I'm excited about.
- 1:28:34Detroit this year. Yeah, I, I, I think this is our
- 1:28:38year, man. I think our defense is going to
- 1:28:39hold strong. And I, I, I don't think it's
- 1:28:42going to, it might be a, a, a quick problem till they figure
- 1:28:45it out, but I think our new coaches are going to do us proud
- 1:28:47and I think we're going to win the Super Bowl, my man.
- 1:28:49I feel you man, but it's Detroit.
- 1:28:53I know, but but me and our our those two running backs and if
- 1:28:58our defense stays, I mean, if our just think about last
- 1:29:00year's, like if our defense stayed strong, we'd have won the
- 1:29:03Super Bowl. No, nobody could fuck with us.
- 1:29:08No, I mean you got you got a straight head at quarterback,
- 1:29:10I'll give you that. Yeah, yeah, I I wasn't sold at
- 1:29:13first, but it's definitely proven to be an upgrade, I
- 1:29:16think. Yeah.
- 1:29:18Oh, hold on, is this the actual Smokey?
- 1:29:20No, it is. Yeah, No, it is.
- 1:29:21It is, really. Are you from Detroit?
- 1:29:24Rage? No, rage is.
- 1:29:28Big tigers, though. Big tigers, though.
- 1:29:30I, I, I, I live in Battle Creek, MI.
- 1:29:33I was born here. I was raised in North Carolina
- 1:29:35though, Like, I spent most of my childhood up until my 20s in
- 1:29:38North Carolina. Oh, that's right.
- 1:29:40You used to work for the cartel in Battle Creek, right In in
- 1:29:44North Carolina. I did.
- 1:29:45I didn't work for them. I just sold them guns looking
- 1:29:52kid. No, don't bring it up.
- 1:30:00He felt the Keith felt the drug cartels guns our.
- 1:30:04Starting QB this year. I'm just going to kill myself.
- 1:30:07I really am this. Football season.
- 1:30:09Is going to suck. You know, I still have that
- 1:30:11stream. Where will me?
- 1:30:14I'm going. To be the one who's born this
- 1:30:16We're just. Talking about it for 20 minutes,
- 1:30:19I kid you not. It's like, it's like, it's like,
- 1:30:23it's like. One of the.
- 1:30:24Idiocy archives that I have there just for that's for shits
- 1:30:28and giggles. I mean I don't I don't I don't
- 1:30:30necessarily know what you're referring to.
- 1:30:32I I, I don't really look at much on these things, but like for
- 1:30:35real, like y'all, y'all really can't bother me anymore.
- 1:30:38I'm kind of beyond all the bullshit.
- 1:30:40I've never I've I heard you talking about it.
- 1:30:42That's kind of well. Not the worst thing I can say
- 1:30:45about you is that you have a shit football.
- 1:30:46Team. We are going to win the Super
- 1:30:49Bowl. We.
- 1:30:50Are going to win the game. Who's Who's your?
- 1:30:52Team. So no, this is important.
- 1:30:54This is more important than anything else.
- 1:30:55Lo, who's your team? Saints, I've been a no LA fan
- 1:30:59my. Whole I don't understand it.
- 1:31:01Like why do you even care about us?
- 1:31:02Because you suck. No, we're going to like we kick
- 1:31:06ass, man. We're like America's team now.
- 1:31:09Really. Yeah, like.
- 1:31:11Yeah, the polls. Yeah, we're, we're like, we're
- 1:31:14like most. Podcast in.
- 1:31:15America right now, who told? You.
- 1:31:18Where did you hear that? What?
- 1:31:19Do you like for? Baseball.
- 1:31:22Baseball. I don't.
- 1:31:23I mean, I'm a Tigers, I guess, but I'm not a big baseball fan.
- 1:31:25Are you? You have such strong opinions
- 1:31:29about this. You have such an emotional.
- 1:31:30Bridge Well, you have no well, you have no I I wish I.
- 1:31:33Could. I mean, I could talk sports all
- 1:31:35night, but I know we're not here for that, so I'll stop.
- 1:31:37Well. I'm sorry, I like talking about
- 1:31:39things that are. I mean, yeah, I, I agree.
- 1:31:41Like I, I, I think NFL is like way more important than all of
- 1:31:44this. But they're kicking off, you
- 1:31:46know I. Would literally rather talk
- 1:31:49about baseball and football than any of this other shit to tell
- 1:31:51you the truth. That's why I'm not really
- 1:31:53allowed to. I'll be back.
- 1:31:55With it. Yeah, well, I don't.
- 1:31:57Especially if you're betting. I don't mean to upset most of
- 1:32:01you guys. I know it's a very American
- 1:32:03thing for you, but since I have family in Houston, it's Astros
- 1:32:06for me all the way. Oh, you so you?
- 1:32:11Isn't that the team that wins by cheating?
- 1:32:14No, that's all of that's all. That's all of them baseball.
- 1:32:17They're all you. And the Astros get especially
- 1:32:19caught. No freaking way not, are you?
- 1:32:22You know. And we all agree that we hate
- 1:32:26the Raiders. I.
- 1:32:27Mean I don't. Know if we agree on that, yes, I
- 1:32:29think I mean even G man would agree with that, I'm sure.
- 1:32:32We all hate the Raiders. On this so you guys got to fill
- 1:32:35me in. Because you know.
- 1:32:36Like in here. We bet with other other people's
- 1:32:40teams all the time, I mean. Tomorrow you could.
- 1:32:42Be like UP and the next day you could.
- 1:32:44Be de La Salle and. Nobody would give a crap, but
- 1:32:46you know, since it's a very. American thing for you, I
- 1:32:48wouldn't understand that environment.
- 1:32:50So really they wouldn't be cheating.
- 1:32:52Like how does that figure out man?
- 1:32:55The Raiders cheat so bad. But doesn't every almost every
- 1:33:00team do that? I mean not to.
- 1:33:01No things have. Never cheated.
- 1:33:03Ever. Never happened.
- 1:33:05Well, I mean, I I would I would argue that if every team cheats
- 1:33:08in the same way then it's not cheating.
- 1:33:10There you go then. That's just the rules really, if
- 1:33:13everyone's doing. That's what they need to do,
- 1:33:15like, like MMA, they just just let people choose, you know?
- 1:33:19Oh, yeah, I I agree. Like, I don't think that there
- 1:33:21should be any asterisks. And like, when it comes to like
- 1:33:23Barry Bonds or whatever, like if everybody's doing it, if your
- 1:33:26pitchers are juicing and Barry Bonds is knocking it into like
- 1:33:29outer space, like, he's probably deserves the whatever comes
- 1:33:33along. They need to give.
- 1:33:34They need to give. They need to give Pete Rose.
- 1:33:35They're gonna let him with the Hall of Fame, too.
- 1:33:38But somehow we did kind of sidetrack this whole
- 1:33:41conversation into an area like a lot of people ain't going to
- 1:33:44like so. What do you want to talk about?
- 1:33:46Yeah, they'd be like, they'd be like, knock, you're supposed to
- 1:33:49be destroying these Christians. Why are you talking about
- 1:33:51baseball? All persona, everyone.
- 1:33:52Gets mad. I always turn it to baseball.
- 1:33:54Everyone gets pissed at me. Well as a Filipino myself, I'm
- 1:33:59more on the basketball situation because Filipinos love.
- 1:34:02Basketball. Basketball is shit.
- 1:34:04It's kind. Of a guardian.
- 1:34:06Ouch. Don't do that.
- 1:34:09I mean, well, I, I got I, you got to admit, when Kevin Carter,
- 1:34:13well, when Vince Carter hit that 180 dunk, everybody lost their
- 1:34:16minds. It was freaking amazing.
- 1:34:23Somebody bring up a topic that we're actually supposed to be
- 1:34:25talking. About, oh, I mean, he
- 1:34:28sidetracked. From freaking.
- 1:34:29Weather let smoke you know that I sent him MP4 and all that for
- 1:34:34the. Future I will, I'll let him know
- 1:34:36he's outside talking A will. So how you been doing low?
- 1:34:40Oh, I'm, I'm living the dream. It's Labor Day tomorrow, so my
- 1:34:43work's going to be super busy not or well, it's not Labor Day,
- 1:34:46but it's our like party and whatever.
- 1:34:47So it's going to be busy. You'll have a party for Labor
- 1:34:51Day at. Work.
- 1:34:53Well, yeah, I work at a resort, so we always do.
- 1:34:55Like what did it cook out or something?
- 1:34:59Yeah. Oh, it's going to be like a
- 1:35:00really big. We're expecting, like a lot of
- 1:35:02people, it's going to be a nightmare.
- 1:35:04Yeah, it's cookouts nationwide right now.
- 1:35:09A lot of DU is everybody pray that no.
- 1:35:13It is a tough time to be a dangerous time to be on the road
- 1:35:14for sure. All right.
- 1:35:17I got a an interesting couple questions I can throw out there
- 1:35:21to get some topics going if you guys want to ready.
- 1:35:26Well, I guess we'll start, we'll start with G man, G man.
- 1:35:30How do you feel about the O SAS community?
- 1:35:34Never heard of them. Basically, once saved, always
- 1:35:37saved, no matter what you do kind of thing.
- 1:35:40Steven Anderson, Matt Powell. It's usually tied to like deeply
- 1:35:43fundamental evangelical movements.
- 1:35:47I don't know if this is the appropriate place to talk about
- 1:35:50this topic. Well, I.
- 1:35:51Think it's a very. Appropriate place to well, it's
- 1:35:54just they they they promote O SAS.
- 1:35:56It's like once saved, always saved So like I had a
- 1:35:58conversation once with Matt where I talked about like I used
- 1:36:01to be a Christian. I grew up to be a Christian and
- 1:36:04he doesn't think that I wasn't a Christian that I was never
- 1:36:06saved. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:36:08Because if I had been saved, then I'd still be a Christian
- 1:36:11You. Might want to ask Joe this
- 1:36:14because like I said, I don't. Know that's yeah that's more it
- 1:36:17kind of if SAS. You know, that's your view on
- 1:36:20what's David always say. That's how it it was explained
- 1:36:22to me, but. Like I mean, you're right, but a
- 1:36:26lot of times the OS OSS will make a distinction on apostasy,
- 1:36:31you know? Could I chime in?
- 1:36:33Yeah. Sure, go ahead.
- 1:36:35So I do believe the one saved always saved doctrine.
- 1:36:38However, where I'm a little different from everyone else is
- 1:36:41I believe the vast majority of people who claim to be saved
- 1:36:44were never saved. Maybe they had an encounter with
- 1:36:47God, maybe they were trying to get close to God, but I
- 1:36:51definitely think if you've left the faith, you were never saved
- 1:36:53to begin with. Isn't that like circular
- 1:36:57reasoning? I think that's called not at
- 1:36:59all. That's kind of like what the IF
- 1:37:01SAS model explains. How is it not circular
- 1:37:05reasoning? Whoa.
- 1:37:06How? How would it be circular
- 1:37:08reasoning? So like, so like if you leave a
- 1:37:13faith then you can't possibly have been in it at all?
- 1:37:16That doesn't make any sense. So like what about all of the
- 1:37:18people that leave Mormonism like at a exponential rate now like.
- 1:37:23Well, because Mormonism is not Christian.
- 1:37:25It's a cult. But also, if you're going to ask
- 1:37:30me questions, I'll answer them, but please let me answer them.
- 1:37:33So my answer to you would be, my God is so big that if you did
- 1:37:37have a true encounter with Him, there's no way you could leave
- 1:37:40his presence. Your God is bigger than every
- 1:37:44other God. My God is the only real God.
- 1:37:48How do you know that? Because he's the creator of all
- 1:37:51things. Can you show me another creator
- 1:37:53God with as much evidence and scientific evidence behind it as
- 1:37:56the Christian God? I don't.
- 1:37:58I don't know what scientific evidence you have for the
- 1:38:01Christian God. What about all the lack of your
- 1:38:03true religion evolution? I don't have evolution isn't my
- 1:38:09religion. Evolution is every atheist
- 1:38:11religion, as a matter of fact, if we could circle back around
- 1:38:14to. He's already said he was like
- 1:38:17he's already said he was in the Panther and you can't do.
- 1:38:20That's not fair. And not only that, like how do
- 1:38:22you like, you don't know me, dude.
- 1:38:23Like how so how do? What gives you the authority to
- 1:38:26assume anything about me at all? Well you self identify as an
- 1:38:30atheist, correct? I self identify as I mean, I
- 1:38:34could self identify as fucking Harry Potter on Halloween.
- 1:38:37What? What difference does that make?
- 1:38:39How do you know me to make any assumptions about me at all?
- 1:38:42You think you have this like, you know, like this like
- 1:38:45striking connection to God that gives you like some kind of link
- 1:38:47to me that you can somehow dictate to me who the fuck I am.
- 1:38:51That's really fucking rude. Like what kind of question are?
- 1:38:54You dude, I just have the ability to listen.
- 1:38:57I'm just joshing with you, don't bother me.
- 1:39:01Tell us what you want to be fair.
- 1:39:05To be fair, there are some atheists up there who are
- 1:39:07starting to go towards this concept that we live in a
- 1:39:10computer video game. We're in a simulation.
- 1:39:12Have you guys heard of this? And there's like Christians like
- 1:39:15thick shades who think that too. Brett they, they could even,
- 1:39:18they could even say they're leaving aliens.
- 1:39:20I mean it's infinite regress but and claim that to them, you
- 1:39:23know, so can spur me or something like that.
- 1:39:26Right. All I'm saying, all I'm simply
- 1:39:28saying is I can sit here and like dictate, like all
- 1:39:31Christianity is like this fundamental evangelical
- 1:39:34evangelical bigotry fest, right? Like I wouldn't be accurate with
- 1:39:38that. Like, you know, it's like this
- 1:39:40big spectrum of, of humanity is what Christianity is and it's
- 1:39:44the same with atheism. So don't presume to know me and
- 1:39:47I won't presume to know you. They believe in Instead of going
- 1:39:50on a rant about someone assuming what you believe.
- 1:39:54Jill, I've listened to you for four hours today.
- 1:39:56I I'm right, and I'm asking you to speak.
- 1:39:58What do you believe about God? What do I believe about God?
- 1:40:02I don't know. Like, is it unconscionable?
- 1:40:05What exactly? What do you believe about God?
- 1:40:13Does the God of the Bible exist? No.
- 1:40:17Then you're an atheist. What if I believed in the God of
- 1:40:20the Congratulations? Is that the same God of the
- 1:40:23Bible? Probably he might agree to that.
- 1:40:25What if I What if I believe in walking talker though?
- 1:40:28He's walking, he's walking, talking.
- 1:40:30He's more into like dream catchers and stuff.
- 1:40:33Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
- 1:40:34A lot of you atheists like to like to respond with this Well,
- 1:40:37what if I believe in this guy? What if I believe in that guy?
- 1:40:39No, but I, I literally like put universal Native American in
- 1:40:42into my philosophy. I, I, I, I listed that when I
- 1:40:45came into the room. Universalist universal Native
- 1:40:49American spirituality is it's walking talk is the great
- 1:40:51spirit. He's the creator of the
- 1:40:52universe. Is that a topic?
- 1:41:00I I believe that Walk and Tonka is the unconscionable force of
- 1:41:04life within the universe. But is it like a like a deity?
- 1:41:09It would, I mean, no, not really.
- 1:41:11Wonka Tonka, well, you, you have mentioned that and not you're,
- 1:41:16you're one of the handfuls of non believers out there at least
- 1:41:19who stated that you do believe in some kind of spirituality,
- 1:41:23some kind of force. I mean, if you hold to the
- 1:41:25Indian beliefs and you hold that there's animal spirits and even
- 1:41:29some form of reincarnation or do you go with a different faction
- 1:41:33of Indians? It's basically like, I don't
- 1:41:37know, it's kind of an, an algorithm of black oak.
- 1:41:42But like my, my, my main, my main philosophies are Daoism.
- 1:41:45All, all I'm saying is like, I mean the claim that like the
- 1:41:49only like so one of the things that I try not to do anymore is
- 1:41:53like make positive claims that I can't prove.
- 1:41:55Like there is no God. Like I can't prove that positive
- 1:41:57claim. You can't prove the positive
- 1:41:59claim that that the Christian God was the only God that
- 1:42:02exists. Like what scientific proof that
- 1:42:04you have? And your answer was like, like
- 1:42:06literally bro evolution. Like that's that's just like
- 1:42:09talking points. It's not a real conversation.
- 1:42:11Like, like if you really want to have a conversation and kind of
- 1:42:13like understand an atheist or me to actually try to possibly
- 1:42:17understand whatever, then I mean, have a real conversation
- 1:42:21and not just the same conversation you've had with
- 1:42:23everybody else every single stream that you've had on
- 1:42:26YouTube. You know, that's that's what I'm
- 1:42:28saying. I'll have a conversation with
- 1:42:31you about OK, so atheists love to say that there's.
- 1:42:34No, there's no evidence for the existence of the Christian God.
- 1:42:37Let's have a real conversation about evidence.
- 1:42:39What is evidence? It sounds like he's saying he's
- 1:42:42agnostic. He doesn't know I'm not.
- 1:42:44I'm not like, what? What evidence do you have on
- 1:42:46social media in front of potentially billions of people
- 1:42:51and say that no one's ever. Provided any evidence for the
- 1:42:53existence of God or they don't think that there's any evidence
- 1:42:56for the existence of God, What is your evidence?
- 1:42:59Are we talking about scientific? Evidence or we talking about
- 1:43:02legal evidence just. Start, just start.
- 1:43:04Just just start with one. No, I'm asking.
- 1:43:06You. You're the one making a claim
- 1:43:07that you don't think I I have made no claims.
- 1:43:10Here, Sir, you believe. That that there are, that
- 1:43:14there's. No evidence for the existence of
- 1:43:16God, are you? Are you saying I made a negative
- 1:43:18claim? I'm saying.
- 1:43:20That your claim is, is that there's no evidence for the
- 1:43:23existence of God? No.
- 1:43:23Somebody asked me if I believed in the Christian God, and I know
- 1:43:27but. Social media understands the
- 1:43:29concept. Are you?
- 1:43:31I don't believe a lot of you understand the the the.
- 1:43:33Concept of evidence. So.
- 1:43:36So let's start with one. One piece of evidence and let's.
- 1:43:39Let's determine if it's evidence.
- 1:43:41Let's. You're here.
- 1:43:42You're here. Let's talk about science.
- 1:43:44That's not evidence. Let's just.
- 1:43:46Go to the wall. You're not.
- 1:43:47You're not. Here he being here is not.
- 1:43:49Evidence of God? Let's go to the Why not?
- 1:43:53It's not. Yeah, it's evidence of an.
- 1:43:54Intelligent Designer? No.
- 1:43:56No, it's not. Sure, sure it is.
- 1:44:01All right, so all. Right GMA you got DNA 4 bit
- 1:44:05code. Sorry, Chris, I don't mean to be
- 1:44:07rude. I.
- 1:44:07I forgot myself. I I flashback.
- 1:44:09For a moment, knock. If you don't mind me asking the
- 1:44:17last time. The well hold one second.
- 1:44:21Last time we talked to knock you and said that there you had had
- 1:44:24what you feel to be what you perceived to be spiritual
- 1:44:28experiences. Is that still a thing or is has
- 1:44:31have you talked yourself out of it?
- 1:44:34I had a nervous breakdown as a result of Smokey St.
- 1:44:37Will Kincaid and being poured and losing everything.
- 1:44:42I'm sorry to hear about that. Man, absolutely a scientific
- 1:44:46evidence. For the existence of God, but I
- 1:44:48I still like kind of question the.
- 1:44:49Experience, right? Like so like.
- 1:44:52It's weird because so I believe what I saw, man.
- 1:44:56And, and it's kind of weird because I, I, I know that it was
- 1:44:58like a nervous breakdown, but I believe what I saw.
- 1:45:00I think that, and and I think it was a metaphor, right, of just
- 1:45:04like me as a person and, and the reason for like why I've never
- 1:45:08done anything in my life and it's this, I called it the fuck
- 1:45:12it demon. And no, I haven't completely
- 1:45:15gotten rid of it. That's the that's the fucking
- 1:45:17honest truth. I I know it's it was a nervous
- 1:45:19breakdown, but at the same time it's still there, right?
- 1:45:22It's it's still there. I believe it's hard.
- 1:45:25It's hard to describe. If there's any scientific
- 1:45:27evidence for these, we can describe it.
- 1:45:29We can describe it from, I'm sure.
- 1:45:30You can, but I'm I'm. Yeah, I'm, I'm just, I'm just
- 1:45:33being, I, I'm being an honest interlocutor right now.
- 1:45:36Right now. So I'm sure you tried to take
- 1:45:38advantage of that. But I'm telling you, it's not
- 1:45:40like, I know it was a nervous breakdown, but at the same time,
- 1:45:44I think a nervous breakdown can still be real.
- 1:45:46And you should take your lessons.
- 1:45:47And and you know, the fucking demon, the fucking demon.
- 1:45:50Like, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to defeat it.
- 1:45:53It is a demon. Do you believe that there's any
- 1:45:56scientific evidence for the existence of God?
- 1:45:59No, for for it not. Not in the meaning of the way.
- 1:46:03You're saying it. OK, So what is scientific
- 1:46:06evidence you're showing me? Like you're literally.
- 1:46:08Telling me I love Jesus and everybody here knows.
- 1:46:10I'm practically A mythicist. I'm not sure if Jesus truly
- 1:46:13existed. Oh my God.
- 1:46:15So what is scientific evidence? I don't know.
- 1:46:19You would have to like tell me what your evidence.
- 1:46:21Is and I will tell you if I accept.
- 1:46:22It if it's evidence to me, I asked you a direct if it's
- 1:46:26scientific evidence and it's legit.
- 1:46:28I'll, I'll consider it. I'll.
- 1:46:30I'll maybe it'll change my worldview, but give me one like
- 1:46:34you just keep asking me like Will.
- 1:46:35I accept. Evidence.
- 1:46:37What is my Let me try. Let me try a scientific point.
- 1:46:40I don't know. It could be a lot of things.
- 1:46:42Scientific evidence. Let let me.
- 1:46:43Try a scientific. Point and see if you guys agree
- 1:46:46with this. Not do you.
- 1:46:48First we have to get to a point where do you accept the claim by
- 1:46:52scientists that the universe went through a Big Bang process?
- 1:46:59I mean, I don't know. I wasn't.
- 1:47:00There I mean I sure I it. Seems like a probably the most
- 1:47:05probable answer and if you go back, which you'll actually be
- 1:47:09able I've I've deleted a lot of streams, but I think I've kept
- 1:47:12enough like you could probably go back and see that I was
- 1:47:14rather consistent with that answer, even as like like a
- 1:47:18hardcore raging atheist like I I was, I wasn't there.
- 1:47:21I don't know, but it seems like probable.
- 1:47:25You know, it seems like it's good if causes any, I guess.
- 1:47:29All right, so do you. Let me give you the definition
- 1:47:33of supernatural so we're on the same page.
- 1:47:35See if you agree with me on this.
- 1:47:37Do you believe that things, things, persons, or experiences
- 1:47:41or events that exist outside the laws of nature are considered,
- 1:47:44by definition, supernatural? All right, say.
- 1:47:50It one more time I think I got it, but I want to make sure I
- 1:47:53have. It if a event, experience or a
- 1:47:56person or origin happens outside of the laws of nature, does that
- 1:48:02make it supernatural? Let's try it that way.
- 1:48:06I mean, I guess I I guess it would be supernatural until we
- 1:48:09can prove that it can be, that it can't occur within the laws
- 1:48:15of nature. Sure.
- 1:48:16Yeah. So you agree that there was an
- 1:48:19external event? I think the moment that we can
- 1:48:21prove that it happens within the laws of nature, it's no longer
- 1:48:25supernatural. I'll put it that way.
- 1:48:27Not before we continue the discussion because I do care
- 1:48:30about you. If you ever feel like you're
- 1:48:32being pushed too hard, ask me to stop and I will stop.
- 1:48:36I I don't want to cause any kind of health issues.
- 1:48:38All right? I mean, I'm already like,
- 1:48:40Arlani's on. Yeah.
- 1:48:43Well, I I will like say. Like I'm like super.
- 1:48:46Way past my bedtime. So I'll go.
- 1:48:48So I'll, I'll go for as long as I can.
- 1:48:49All right, so you do, You do. Accept.
- 1:48:54I mean, The Big Bang is a. Claim that an external force
- 1:48:57created space and time in nature, right?
- 1:49:00And it was outside of time itself.
- 1:49:02Well, I, I, I don't think we know that for a certainty.
- 1:49:04I think that the claim is that there was an expansion and
- 1:49:08there's, you know, we we're pretty sure of what happened.
- 1:49:12Excuse me. Right, like up to the moment,
- 1:49:14like right after the expansion or Yeah, right.
- 1:49:18Right after the what you would call The Big Bang.
- 1:49:20And I think most scientists would agree that the the name
- 1:49:23for it, The Big Bang is like unfortunate.
- 1:49:26It's more like the big expansion would be a better and it's still
- 1:49:29expanding. Like we're still like it, you
- 1:49:31know, it's the the event is actually still happening.
- 1:49:35But like, I mean, what happened before that?
- 1:49:38I've always granted that that could be where a God exists if
- 1:49:42one does, But at the same time, a God in absence is the same as
- 1:49:47no God at all. So a God that exists within that
- 1:49:50that that place. If you can't prove that God's
- 1:49:56hand in the universe like like like active hand, like active
- 1:50:00hand that's like outside of the natural, you know, way things,
- 1:50:03but you can but you can then you can not be a no God and you
- 1:50:07there's no way possibly that there's no way possible to put
- 1:50:10Yahweh there. Yahweh there not make sure but
- 1:50:13you you can you can prove intelligent designer but
- 1:50:16theological argument. Sure, I I would say that that
- 1:50:20it's a legitimate argument and. But like definitively prove, I'd
- 1:50:23say it's been definitively debunked.
- 1:50:25So what? But you cannot, that does not
- 1:50:28prove the existence of Yahweh. So you know, you know,
- 1:50:32Christians and not just all Christians, but like this theist
- 1:50:36in general, they, you know, they, they want to apply that
- 1:50:39they know everything. I don't, you know, and I used to
- 1:50:42too, as a fucking atheist. I did the same God damn thing.
- 1:50:45And I'm not, I'm not judging you at all.
- 1:50:47I did. I said there is no fucking God.
- 1:50:50I don't know that. And but I will tell you, I will
- 1:50:53be shocked if it's Yahweh. I would like there's so many
- 1:50:56better possibilities and kinder possibilities.
- 1:50:58And and like I would, I would pray for any number of
- 1:51:02possibilities before Yahweh, who's like literally going to
- 1:51:05condemn at least me and most of the people I know to some
- 1:51:09fucking God damn existence that we don't deserve.
- 1:51:12So yeah, I think that there's plenty of more possibilities
- 1:51:15than that. I'm not.
- 1:51:16I'm not trying to. You're not trying to put a
- 1:51:18spirituality to be more likely. I'm sorry, miss.
- 1:51:21Smokey, I mean. I I think that like Taoism is
- 1:51:24like the best. Taoism is the best because it's
- 1:51:26like, pretty much like know thyself, right?
- 1:51:29Like it's a religion, like get to know yourself.
- 1:51:31Stop, read, be part of this universe, man.
- 1:51:36So yeah, I, I, I say that like, just like as a, in the
- 1:51:40colloquial sense, This is what I'm talking about.
- 1:51:42A dishonest fucking conversation.
- 1:51:45Oh, actually it wasn't earlier. You did.
- 1:51:47Say that Taoism. Included doctrines.
- 1:51:50So I must be. It's what I hate.
- 1:51:52Like life isn't consistent 100% of the time.
- 1:51:55I'm human. I misspeak.
- 1:51:56Like, you know what the fuck I'm saying.
- 1:51:58Stop it. OK, so.
- 1:52:00So what does it mean to be religious?
- 1:52:02I'm not talking to you, Lo. It's just you knock.
- 1:52:04I love having you in the room if you're tired or something.
- 1:52:07Not feeling good. It's all.
- 1:52:09It's all good if you want to. I'm straight.
- 1:52:10We can continue. I'm straight.
- 1:52:12It's just, I'm gonna regret it tomorrow when I wake up at like
- 1:52:154:00 in the morning. Well, not you're you're
- 1:52:17basically you're agreeing with me that whatever this event was,
- 1:52:21it happened outside of the universe.
- 1:52:23You know what that means? That means logically, it gives
- 1:52:26it the attributes of something that is powerful enough to
- 1:52:30create a universe, all space-time and matter.
- 1:52:33And because it's in an eternal state outside of time, it makes
- 1:52:37it timeless. That actually goes attributes of
- 1:52:39an intelligent designer that that goes against what the
- 1:52:42science says though, because it what what what was there?
- 1:52:47What was there after the the initial expansion was what is
- 1:52:52here now was always there that I think that's what the sign says.
- 1:52:55I could be mistaken, but I'm not like a scientist or nothing.
- 1:52:58And I don't see how this has anything to do with the
- 1:53:00Christian God or any God at all. Well, that's I'm hoping to at
- 1:53:03least just open the mind of non believers or skeptics, no matter
- 1:53:07what angle they're going with. Be open minded toward the
- 1:53:11concept of at least there is something out there, a
- 1:53:14consciousness. I think that there could be
- 1:53:16something out there. I think you're I think you're
- 1:53:19past that point. I.
- 1:53:21Really do? Yeah.
- 1:53:23I just don't. Know what it would be and I I
- 1:53:25would. Never try to pretend.
- 1:53:26To know what it would be right. I I believe that, but I think
- 1:53:30you believe there's a creator. For sure, I I I wouldn't call it
- 1:53:34a creator man. Like maybe, maybe just.
- 1:53:36I don't know. Some some necessity, some some
- 1:53:40reason for it all, you know? Yeah.
- 1:53:44If it doesn't lead back to a mind, though, I don't know.
- 1:53:47I I. Maybe, I don't know, Maybe I
- 1:53:49guess that's one. Of the possibilities, but I, I
- 1:53:51just don't, I don't know that information and I, it's the
- 1:53:56thing that I've really come like the direct result of all of
- 1:53:59that, like, like my God, my come to God moment was like, it's
- 1:54:03just I realized, man, I'm, I'm a Dick and I just really don't
- 1:54:06know. And none of us do none of us
- 1:54:08know anything. And we allowed this unknowing to
- 1:54:12drive us insane enough to, to think that we do know.
- 1:54:16And because of that knowledge that we think that we do have,
- 1:54:20we allow ourselves to do terrible and horrible things.
- 1:54:24Humanity's got some serious issues.
- 1:54:27Indeed, I think there's no one out.
- 1:54:28There, that would disagree with you on that.
- 1:54:30And that's the reason why many of us believe that we need a
- 1:54:33Messiah in order to correct that problem.
- 1:54:36Yeah, Or, you know. So far like the comfort is.
- 1:54:41Eventually we get to die, but you guys like or not you guys,
- 1:54:45I'd, I'd say like all of Abrahamic's probably.
- 1:54:48I, I, I don't know if Judaism has adopted some form of hell or
- 1:54:51or not at this point. I, I'm, I'm really unfamiliar
- 1:54:55schools of it really. It's not universal.
- 1:54:57It exists, but really nobody, nobody goes there pretty much.
- 1:55:02Yeah. So I mean, you know, like that,
- 1:55:04that's like that's. Like the comfort is like
- 1:55:07eventually we can die. And you know, like I think it
- 1:55:09would be a beautiful concept for like reincarnation way of
- 1:55:12thinking about it. Like why?
- 1:55:14Why would that be like eventually?
- 1:55:16We get to die. Like why not live your life for
- 1:55:18something greater than yourself? Like maybe, maybe, maybe we
- 1:55:23could be. Well, I mean, I.
- 1:55:24I think living for something greater than your yourself is
- 1:55:27probably trying to make an impact.
- 1:55:29And I think that's why I have like so much regret about my
- 1:55:32life. You know, I don't think I've
- 1:55:34made an impact. No, you've definitely made
- 1:55:38that's a horrible way. I mean not not the impact like.
- 1:55:41Not the impact like so for me like.
- 1:55:43I, when I, when I, when I was a young buck and I had dreams and
- 1:55:47shit, like I, and I actually had the talent to do it.
- 1:55:49I like, I thought like I was going to be like some
- 1:55:52Shakespeare figure, right? Like I was going to make this
- 1:55:54really giant impact. And I, I, I think you make
- 1:55:57impacts. I'm not trying to diminish
- 1:55:59anybody else's impacts or the impacts that I've made as a
- 1:56:01father or or some of the like things that I've done one here
- 1:56:04on YouTube even I've I've won several like contest writing
- 1:56:08stories. I think I've overcome like my
- 1:56:11early blunders in life fairly well, even though, like I'm, I
- 1:56:15make really shitty decisions in life.
- 1:56:17But like, I'm talking like I, you know, I, I wanted to like
- 1:56:22really, truly impact the world and I didn't.
- 1:56:24And I think that that's where like the source of my like,
- 1:56:26regret comes from because, you know, like I, I regret, like I,
- 1:56:30I didn't do it better the last time I was trying to do this
- 1:56:32thing, man. Like I, like I would, I would, I
- 1:56:35would sit there and pretend like I was, you know, like the
- 1:56:38Christians were so fucked up for pretending like they can tell me
- 1:56:41about God And, and, but I was sitting there doing the same
- 1:56:44things because I was sitting there telling them how I was so
- 1:56:46much better than them that I didn't.
- 1:56:48And it, and it's, it's all a bunch of hogwash.
- 1:56:51None of us know shit. We're all just trying to
- 1:56:53survive, man. And unfortunately, like most
- 1:56:56there, there's like a few families that's making it really
- 1:56:58hard for everybody else. Well, not.
- 1:57:02You have made an impact. You have made an.
- 1:57:06Impact. I think that there's a lot of
- 1:57:07people who. Enjoy your company.
- 1:57:09Enjoy, listen to you, you've made some good friends.
- 1:57:12You've you've grown up as a person.
- 1:57:14I'm sure you've grown as a parent and all that.
- 1:57:17So don't discredit yourself like that.
- 1:57:19I mean, I, I still enjoy the shit.
- 1:57:22Like I'm not trying to say like, you know, like this isn't,
- 1:57:25there's no value in any of this, but I'm just like, if we're
- 1:57:28going to do it, just like let's let's really fucking do it and
- 1:57:30really be honest about it and shit.
- 1:57:32Like, but I was enjoying like the the back and forth with G
- 1:57:35Man. I don't think G man recognized
- 1:57:36me at first. Yeah, he probably forgot.
- 1:57:43Like your kids, man. Like that's your legacy, that's
- 1:57:45what. It's all about.
- 1:57:47Yeah. And ultimately I think that's
- 1:57:48true. Yeah.
- 1:57:49Yeah, absolutely. And that's part.
- 1:57:50Of. Like the biggest thing about
- 1:57:52Christianity is like you're. Supposed to get married, have a
- 1:57:55family, do all that shit and like, I think I believe in
- 1:57:58reincarnation. Do you think so?
- 1:58:01I, I, I think I do. What do you What do you want?
- 1:58:03To be next. Time.
- 1:58:05Do you want to be a perfect? Do you want?
- 1:58:06To be a good thing, I I. Want to come back as a?
- 1:58:10Human being again I I would just hope.
- 1:58:12That we could sometime at some point, like remember the past.
- 1:58:15And I think it would be a great benefit for all of us, like all
- 1:58:18of our past lives, I think, I wish we could like remember
- 1:58:21them. Like in I don't really have
- 1:58:23like, you know, I don't have any scientific evidence of that.
- 1:58:25And I freely admit it. And I, you know, I will admit
- 1:58:29this. That belief never really went
- 1:58:30away. Even through all of my fucking
- 1:58:32hardcore atheism, as a raging atheist, I always believed it.
- 1:58:35You know why I believed it? Because I did a ceremony in
- 1:58:37Cherokee, NC. It was a bunch of crystal
- 1:58:40fluorite. It was a crystal fluorite
- 1:58:41layout. And I laid in that thing and I
- 1:58:44saw three. I saw myself through the eyes of
- 1:58:47three different people in three different periods of time, and I
- 1:58:50remember every moment of it and I've never spoken of it, ever.
- 1:58:54It is mine. It is mine.
- 1:58:55It is mine alone. Were you taking any drugs?
- 1:58:59No. No drugs.
- 1:59:00No drugs. At all I did do I did.
- 1:59:03I did do peyote ceremony but it wasn't this experience, this was
- 1:59:08just the crystal fluoride layout and a lot of meditation.
- 1:59:13Probably too much meditation. Probably the same reason
- 1:59:16Muhammad talked to that fucking Angel in those caves.
- 1:59:18Because you can put your yourself into a state of
- 1:59:21euphoria with too much meditation.
- 1:59:24Well, by the way, Mohammed might have actually been legitimately
- 1:59:27schizophrenic. So just there, there is that as
- 1:59:30well. I, I will agree to that
- 1:59:31argument. There's also that theory about
- 1:59:33the burning Bush and the DMT, but we're not going to get into.
- 1:59:36That No, no, no. Are you?
- 1:59:38Are you smoking? Oh, I'm What do you mean smoking
- 1:59:42a cigarette? No, I swear, I thought I heard
- 1:59:45you take a drag. He's he's got a vape.
- 1:59:48He's. Got a vape situation?
- 1:59:49OK, you better not. Be you better not be.
- 1:59:52I'm sure that that's. Just a nicotine vape too, yeah?
- 1:59:56Well, no, this one is the weed vape, Yeah.
- 1:59:59Just come out and. Say it.
- 2:00:00I was trying to. Give you like this is the next
- 2:00:04to go, but I don't. Know it's like my only like
- 2:00:06glaucoma medication so I've got to have my other medication.
- 2:00:10It's way better for you than the nicotine vape.
- 2:00:13What are you talking? About yeah, the weed and get rid
- 2:00:16of the nicotine. I know.
- 2:00:19That's. The one that's going to be last
- 2:00:21because. That's the hardest one, but
- 2:00:23that's the worst one, which is not bad for you and.
- 2:00:26Get rid of the nicotine that doesn't.
- 2:00:28Even this? One is holding me back from the
- 2:00:30job I need to get right? Like so the job I need to get
- 2:00:33I've. Got to be able to pass a a weed
- 2:00:34test so damn knock you still wait?
- 2:00:38Are you still waiting on them? Boots Boots.
- 2:00:41On the what? The boots last time I talked.
- 2:00:47To you, you were going to get a job.
- 2:00:48But you didn't have boots. Everyone.
- 2:00:50No, no, no. That was, yeah, that was me
- 2:00:53trying going back. To Denzo, that worked out for a
- 2:00:55little while, but then they drug tested me.
- 2:00:57Here is my microphone coming through.
- 2:01:01Clear move to a society that's enlightened about marijuana.
- 2:01:07Yeah, it's like legal here, but companies can still fire you for
- 2:01:09it. Oh, that's.
- 2:01:10Bullshit. I feel like that should be Yeah,
- 2:01:11they still don't want you hot at work.
- 2:01:14I mean I have seen the. Effects on not be high.
- 2:01:17And smoke pot like. I I have seen the effects of
- 2:01:22marijuana. On Parkinson's.
- 2:01:24With people with Parkinson's disease, and it's actually
- 2:01:27really effective. So I don't know, like like, I
- 2:01:30don't know how people are getting this idea where it's the
- 2:01:34freaking devil that marijuana is like it's it's it's a plan from
- 2:01:39the good Lord. So if we just used it in
- 2:01:41moderation, maybe they won't see it that way.
- 2:01:43No, no, bulky weed is terrible for you.
- 2:01:46You should. Just be fucked up on oxy cotton
- 2:01:48all the time. No they can't fire you for that.
- 2:01:51You can be on shit tons of. Painkillers, as long as it's.
- 2:01:54Prescribed to you I left my phone outside right now we.
- 2:02:00Can be fucked up on Xanax. As long as it's prescribed.
- 2:02:04That's OK, I'm I'm way ahead of. You I I use.
- 2:02:07Citrizin. Or allergy pills to try put me
- 2:02:11to sleep because you know they have a drowsy effect which did
- 2:02:15not pan out very well. So Robin Link is in the side
- 2:02:19chat if you want to join. Yeah, Robin Webster cocaine is a
- 2:02:24pan from the. Lord.
- 2:02:26OK, did. You man, leave.
- 2:02:29Yeah, unfortunately. Oh.
- 2:02:31Man I I love. G man, but I don't think he
- 2:02:34liked talking to me too much. I wanted to ask G man how bad
- 2:02:37Vaughn stunk when he met him. Why does it?
- 2:02:40Why, why? Why would G man want to weigh
- 2:02:43in? On such a thing, I mean,
- 2:02:44everyone knows that it was atrocious.
- 2:02:46Why would? You want to know how bad he
- 2:02:47stunk back that? I mean clearly, because I just
- 2:02:51want, I want Jordan's in the car talking about.
- 2:02:53How he wanted to vomit. It was so.
- 2:02:55Bad. And that's John who?
- 2:02:57And that's John, who doesn't smell exactly great himself.
- 2:03:00So you know. 1 OK, so yeah, I think.
- 2:03:06I'm I got to head to bed y'all I got him way.
- 2:03:08Past my bedtime so yeah, I appreciate you let me come in
- 2:03:10and, you know, hang out No, no, I think you're going you're
- 2:03:13going up that mountain you're just going the.
- 2:03:16Long way to get there, you know it.
- 2:03:18I mean, I don't know. We'll see.
- 2:03:19You know, like. You'll get there.
- 2:03:21You'll get there, trust me. I'll say.
- 2:03:23We'll say a lot. We'll say a lot when you get
- 2:03:24there. So in Taoism, there's this,
- 2:03:27there's there's this concept called the uncarved.
- 2:03:29Block I, I talked about it recently, so some people might
- 2:03:33have heard it, but like when you have a block of wood, right when
- 2:03:37the moment you start to carve that block of wood, you know,
- 2:03:40you, you, it becomes something, right?
- 2:03:43Like it's something now. And even if that intention is
- 2:03:46isn't fulfilled, you know that block that that block of wood is
- 2:03:51forever changed. But until that moment that you
- 2:03:54first, you know, take the knife to that block of wood, that
- 2:03:57block of wood isn't a countless amount of possibilities.
- 2:04:01It could literally be anything. So be that block of wood, man.
- 2:04:08And that that would be my final finally those.
- 2:04:11Thoughts on the you? Already got to deal with them.
- 2:04:12You'd be like Bruce Lee right there.
- 2:04:16Be the water. Be the water.
- 2:04:21Well. It's all good, I've been told.
- 2:04:24By some people. I'm.
- 2:04:25I'm. Kind of thick, so I guess I'm
- 2:04:27pretty halfway there. Yeah, you got the joke.
- 2:04:33I got it. Chip off the.
- 2:04:35Old block. You can.
- 2:04:40Well, it's me on the big screen. Now, so I got to think about
- 2:04:44something I want to talk about. Oh well, I did want to get back
- 2:04:48on the the virgin breath situation.
- 2:04:52I didn't get a chance to answer I.
- 2:04:56Didn't get a chance to. Answer and people were saying
- 2:04:58that. Oh.
- 2:05:00Knocking. Maybe some other atheists were
- 2:05:02saying that Mayor didn't have a choice.
- 2:05:05Not not. I'm so sorry, Brett.
- 2:05:07If you can share my screen. All right, it's.
- 2:05:12Up. All right.
- 2:05:12Thank you. All right, so this is how we
- 2:05:16know Mary had a choice and this was not how we do things in the
- 2:05:23bedroom. The same way so.
- 2:05:27All right, OK, I'm going to zoom it in for your benefit, ladies
- 2:05:31and gentlemen. So, so here we have the virgin
- 2:05:35birth over here. I've been reading this for a
- 2:05:37while, but correct me if I'm wrong on some things here,
- 2:05:40because I'm just this is something I haven't really, I
- 2:05:43haven't really looked on yet. Like hermeneutically.
- 2:05:47No, come on there round and time is money.
- 2:05:49What? Do we got?
- 2:05:49Sure. All right, so.
- 2:05:53So the Angel. Came in.
- 2:05:54To her and said. Ho hail, you are the highly
- 2:05:56favored, the Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women.
- 2:06:01And when she saw him, she was troubled at at his saying, and
- 2:06:05considered in her mind what matter being this would be.
- 2:06:08And the Angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary, for you have
- 2:06:11found. Favor.
- 2:06:13With God, and behold, you shall conceive in your womb, and bring
- 2:06:17forth a son, and shall call his. Name.
- 2:06:19Jesus, He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the
- 2:06:24Highest, and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his
- 2:06:28Father. David.
- 2:06:30And he shall reign over the House of Jacob Forever, and of
- 2:06:33his. Kingdom there.
- 2:06:33Shall be no. End then said Mary unto the
- 2:06:37Angel, How shall. This.
- 2:06:39Be seeing I know not. A man, right?
- 2:06:44So. She basically had the same.
- 2:06:46Question. That.
- 2:06:49Or the same kind of inquiry that the non believers were also
- 2:06:52asking, like how is this possible?
- 2:06:54How could I conceive when I cannot?
- 2:06:58I don't even know a man. So she says.
- 2:07:03And then an Angel then says, the Holy Spirit shall come upon you,
- 2:07:06and the power of the highest shall over shadow you.
- 2:07:09Therefore also the holy thing which shall be born of you shall
- 2:07:12be. Called the Son of God.
- 2:07:13And behold, your cousin Elizabeth.
- 2:07:16Yeah, I heard she was barren at an old age.
- 2:07:18She'll also conceive a senator of old age.
- 2:07:22So clearly here, this is not by any means natural things.
- 2:07:27Like naturally, of course, when you do the the coitus situation,
- 2:07:32Yeah, I mean, you can expect all these things.
- 2:07:34But here you have like Elizabeth, who is way on her
- 2:07:39geriatric ages, yeah, possibly can't conceive and now.
- 2:07:44Here you have. The Angel of the Lord.
- 2:07:45Saying that your cousin Elizabeth is going to conceive a
- 2:07:49child even for her age, and this is the 6th month with her who
- 2:07:53was called Baron. So she's so she's practically
- 2:07:56incapable, but that isn't but it.
- 2:07:59But you know what? That isn't the first.
- 2:08:01Time that miracle happened. It happened with Abraham's wife
- 2:08:03Sarah, so there is no coitus here.
- 2:08:08And finally Mary said, behold, the handman of the Lord, be it
- 2:08:12unto me, according to your word. And the Angel departed from her.
- 2:08:16So she basically had the choice to say yes or no, and she said
- 2:08:19yes. She knew what the.
- 2:08:20Implications were and she understood that she could have
- 2:08:24rejected it, but she took. The call instead.
- 2:08:26Fine, let me be this blessed vessel to conceive Jesus Christ.
- 2:08:35Well, not conceive Jesus Christ. But to carry him in my womb?
- 2:08:39To the to the time that he will be born because you know, if
- 2:08:42it's conceived, then it's it's of her own.
- 2:08:44But this is of but this is of God himself.
- 2:08:48So if you just read these carefully, there's no coitus
- 2:08:52with God here. It's just it's just a miracle.
- 2:08:56That's all I could put it. Like, I don't know.
- 2:09:01I don't know what kind of. Some.
- 2:09:04I don't know what kind of. Sequence or chronology type of
- 2:09:07method, You're looking for me, looking for from me.
- 2:09:10But as far as I know, like in the essence of God, there is no
- 2:09:14temporality with God. There's no sequence to events,
- 2:09:17no act after act, no time after, no no time after time, no
- 2:09:21thought after thought. It is what it is.
- 2:09:23God is simply pure act. So if he wills that Mary will
- 2:09:27carry, wait. So if he wills that Mary will
- 2:09:32conceive the Blessed Son, then she will conceive the Blessed
- 2:09:36Son, and he doesn't have to do anything else about it.
- 2:09:39It is what it is. So here you have the.
- 2:09:43The. Demonstration of.
- 2:09:44God simply. Being pure act where he doesn't
- 2:09:49have. To.
- 2:09:50Have he doesn't need to slide his some sort of cosmological or
- 2:09:58some sort of. Essential.
- 2:10:00Dong to get the job done. It's just it.
- 2:10:03Is what it is. Just like that, like I don't
- 2:10:08know what kind of sequence you're looking for from me
- 2:10:10because this is not even mention it in the text.
- 2:10:13None of that. Absolutely.
- 2:10:18Yeah, that was. A little little little much on
- 2:10:21the. Ripen though.
- 2:10:22Ripenberry I'm I'm really bad at my choice of words like.
- 2:10:27I know cosmological or Usyas Dom like I I don't know what you
- 2:10:32guys want from me, but yeah. But you know, if you just look,
- 2:10:38read Luke. Carefully because.
- 2:10:40When you read the Bible, ladies and gentlemen, Hebrew is poetry.
- 2:10:44You know, back in the day we they didn't have like, stop
- 2:10:47signs. Or.
- 2:10:48Traffic lights or turn here on fake St.
- 2:10:51Turn there for Truth St. But.
- 2:10:56In fact, they didn't have those. So they.
- 2:10:57Had to rely on poetry. OK, so when the sun hits the
- 2:11:01shore and you take and you take and you take to its darkest
- 2:11:05corner, there you will find the city of this or that.
- 2:11:10Greek, in the other hand, is a play of words.
- 2:11:13I'm sorry. For finding.
- 2:11:14My shirt, it's kind of hot here. Greek is a play of words.
- 2:11:18So you really got to take extra diligent time.
- 2:11:22And this is not, and this is not an exhortation for the atheist.
- 2:11:25This is actually exhortation for the Christians who are just
- 2:11:28starting out. Because if you're just going to
- 2:11:34take the words. By its.
- 2:11:36Loathsome or by face value, like I'm not talking about like some
- 2:11:41I'm not talking about like you can have a something as good as
- 2:11:44a 30 minute or even a 5 minute Bible study, but if there is no
- 2:11:48diligence there, you're going to get lost.
- 2:11:50You need to. Well, in my case.
- 2:11:57The. There is really the need for me
- 2:12:00to. Go look into.
- 2:12:01Lexicon or some commentary, or the opinions of other church
- 2:12:06leaders or your church elders. But in your case, since you're
- 2:12:11just starting out and all you have is a Bible, you could just
- 2:12:15read it slowly. And you don't let your how do I
- 2:12:21say this? You don't let your conceived
- 2:12:23notions do the thinking for you. Actually look into it and when
- 2:12:29you have time, look extra extra into it.
- 2:12:33But in my case, I can read it to you just like that because,
- 2:12:38well, first of all, there is no, there is no text that says
- 2:12:44you're making me sleepy. I'm so sorry.
- 2:12:46Is it my? Voice or is.
- 2:12:47It or. Am I just?
- 2:12:48Boring, but anyway, how do I put this?
- 2:12:54You could like, I mean, if you just read the words carefully,
- 2:12:59you will find that oh, wait a minute, there isn't any.
- 2:13:03There isn't It doesn't say anything about them actually
- 2:13:06having actual coitus, which was my point.
- 2:13:08That's kind of like, oh, that's argument from silence smoking.
- 2:13:10No, it's not. It's it's right there.
- 2:13:13They didn't mention anything about.
- 2:13:15Having sex and there's. Nothing else outside of that can
- 2:13:19can say or can say that will prove or not prove otherwise.
- 2:13:24It there isn't. So there there is just wasn't
- 2:13:26there Like there is no coitus. It was just just like that.
- 2:13:30That's all I could put it. The virgin birth.
- 2:13:35Had no. Coitus.
- 2:13:36You can't. Call it a virgin birth if there
- 2:13:38was and not conceive under pressure of shelter.
- 2:13:42Oh, come on, basement. Not now.
- 2:13:47You knew what happened, but not now, right on right?
- 2:13:50On if we got anybody out there that.
- 2:13:52Would like to. Come in, the link has been
- 2:13:54posted and on one of the channels I think it's penned.
- 2:13:59I got about 7 minutes on me. I got to start mopping.
- 2:14:02The floors, but I'll be here for.
- 2:14:04The next 7 minutes, yeah. Anybody want to come inside and
- 2:14:10maybe converse? I guess while we're.
- 2:14:14Waiting I could throw out. Something.
- 2:14:16Controversial, See what people think.
- 2:14:19I guess we'll start with this. Could God be defined as an
- 2:14:23alien? In my case, no.
- 2:14:30I mean based of what I read off off of Doctor Kenny's book.
- 2:14:34No. First of all, what would
- 2:14:38constitute as an alien? And whatever constitutes an
- 2:14:42alien has parts of what it means to be an alien.
- 2:14:45And if you're going to put parts on God, then God isn't the way
- 2:14:50he says he is, or he is the way he is because there aren't no
- 2:14:54parts to God. So.
- 2:14:56That's my opinion. I don't know.
- 2:14:58Well, some people, some Christians are arguing like
- 2:15:01there's a Christian really popular by the name of Stephen
- 2:15:04Fry. I don't know if you've ever
- 2:15:06watched some of his videos before.
- 2:15:08He gets into a lot of technical jargon and all that, and he says
- 2:15:12that God is AI believe an interstellar interdimensional
- 2:15:16entity made of pure energy with consciousness.
- 2:15:23OK, but still. Stephen.
- 2:15:26Fry is adding. Parts to him.
- 2:15:29God would no longer be eternal, or let's say some people might
- 2:15:34say formless if there were parts and Stephen Fry as you quoted
- 2:15:41his statement, there were parts to he there are parts of it
- 2:15:45like. There's like.
- 2:15:46He he is an interstellar entity. Made out.
- 2:15:50Of pure energy. So then we asked the question.
- 2:15:55Well, what? Does that look?
- 2:15:56Like, like, is it tangible? I mean, there's the implication
- 2:16:01of. That and.
- 2:16:03I'm not just saying, well, it's a part his implication.
- 2:16:06Is that God lives. In a higher dimension and is
- 2:16:09able to observe us and be able to be able to manifest things
- 2:16:14within our dimension. It kind of goes with, I don't
- 2:16:17know if you ever heard the Carl Sagan analogy of the
- 2:16:20flatlanders, I believe is what it's called.
- 2:16:22Have you ever heard of them? A St. and Smoky that shit.
- 2:16:26I've actually used that analogy several times.
- 2:16:31I think I yeah. The idea is that if you have
- 2:16:33like a plane, a flat plane, and you have two people that live on
- 2:16:36that plane and their universe is 2 dimensional, it has no depth
- 2:16:39to it. If you're in a three-dimensional
- 2:16:42plane and you were to take a sphere, a three-dimensional
- 2:16:45object, and pass it through their universe, they wouldn't
- 2:16:48see a sphere. They would just see a circle
- 2:16:50that starts really, really small, gets larger, and then
- 2:16:53gets really, really small again as it passes through their
- 2:16:56universe. They wouldn't be able to
- 2:16:57perceive it for what it actually is, which is a sphere because of
- 2:17:01the limited capacity perception of them on their two-dimensional
- 2:17:05planes. So it's the same thing at higher
- 2:17:07dimensional planes like, you know, 4th, 5th, 6th, eighths,
- 2:17:10you know, whatever dimensional planes is that, you know,
- 2:17:14entities, objects, transcendentals, concepts,
- 2:17:18whatever it is in terms of, of existence or what, what
- 2:17:22permeates or saturates, you know, these levels of reality,
- 2:17:26it's transcendental to our own. So our ability to perceive and
- 2:17:31coherently understand it, you know, is limited, just like the
- 2:17:35plane, you know, the people living on the plane that have a
- 2:17:38sphere pass through their universe to them.
- 2:17:40It's just a, you know, a a small, you know.
- 2:17:43You know, expanding. And then shrinking circle.
- 2:17:45That's all they perceive it as, not as an actual sphere.
- 2:17:48So Stephen Fry, he explains he felt that I, I think that his
- 2:17:54agenda was to explain how God can be omnipresent all where
- 2:17:58everywhere at all times by describing the limitations of
- 2:18:01humans, that God is actually all around us.
- 2:18:04His angels are around us, but because of our limitations as
- 2:18:08humans on a lower realm, we're not able to perceive him.
- 2:18:12Unless of course we go through some form of ritual such as
- 2:18:16prayers, meditation, that kind of thing.
- 2:18:21I have. I have a question for smokes.
- 2:18:23And I'm, I'm, I hope this. I hope this this, I hope this
- 2:18:28question actually actually kind of conjects to what we're saying
- 2:18:36if I were to know. Where God would live would I
- 2:18:39require? A Quality?
- 2:18:42Would I require a quality? That is.
- 2:18:45Exactly the same with his yeah. I mean, and if and if I
- 2:18:50possessed that, wouldn't that make me God at the same time?
- 2:18:58Well. Yeah, there was.
- 2:19:00There was someone. I remember there was some
- 2:19:01trolley atheist that used to come around and talk about how
- 2:19:04like if God existed, God needed a place to exist in which is
- 2:19:09just. I mean there might be some God
- 2:19:11claims where that fits. In fact, probably a good chunk
- 2:19:14of God claims where that would fit, but that does not fit with
- 2:19:17the Christian paradigm. Like God is not in a plane of
- 2:19:23existence. He is the ultimate existence.
- 2:19:27So like it end up many times we end up having this almost like
- 2:19:31category error where again, yeah, we're associating that
- 2:19:34God's existence must be directly unequivocal to our type of
- 2:19:39existence and our existence requires space-time.
- 2:19:43So we tend to think and equivocate that that is similar
- 2:19:47or something required of God. But God is an ultimate,
- 2:19:50necessary being, you know, as in do.
- 2:19:54You cannot have a tangible, coherent reality, a logically
- 2:19:59possible reality, without the existence of God.
- 2:20:02Because you have to have something that can adequately
- 2:20:07ground and substantiate all transcendentals in unified
- 2:20:11coherence to give a universe that makes sense.
- 2:20:15And only a God claim has reasonable coherence to reality
- 2:20:20and correspondence to reality to be justifiable as a truth claim.
- 2:20:25I see that basement dwellers out here been throwing up some
- 2:20:29points. He says even if being alive in
- 2:20:32other dimensions like from 4 and up still created by God.
- 2:20:36Does God need our universe to exist?
- 2:20:38That's not what Steve Fry's trying to imply.
- 2:20:41Try to. A simple analogy would be
- 2:20:45imagine a cake with layers. Just because there's higher
- 2:20:48layer layers above the layer where we exist in, it doesn't
- 2:20:53mean that God didn't create all the layers and and work it like
- 2:20:58that. So I hope that makes sense, Mr.
- 2:21:00Dweller. Well, I.
- 2:21:05See, just because just can't his layers.
- 2:21:06Doesn't mean God. God has to basically be an
- 2:21:09ultimate. So God is the the absolute.
- 2:21:13If you have anything, if you have anything that is that God
- 2:21:18is contingent upon, like space, matter, time, you know,
- 2:21:24surroundings of any kind, then that thing is now transcendental
- 2:21:28beyond God. So God by definition, and
- 2:21:31especially in the Christian claim is that he is the ultimate
- 2:21:36reality. Everything else flows from him.
- 2:21:40So there is nothing transcendental to Him.
- 2:21:44All of our transcendentals are reflections of his plan, of his,
- 2:21:50his sentient understanding of putting all transcendentals
- 2:21:54together to weave together a coherent and functional reality.
- 2:21:58Everything from the fine tuning of matter and dark energy, you
- 2:22:03know, to, you know, the organization of material and
- 2:22:06matter. And then in a universe that
- 2:22:08tends to lead towards decay and atrophy.
- 2:22:12A as as time goes by, there tends to be more disorder than
- 2:22:17order. So to look at a system like us
- 2:22:20in even biology where there is a massive infusion of order
- 2:22:24amongst a system that tends to gravitate towards disorder and
- 2:22:29atrophy. This is a good sign of the
- 2:22:31existence of a creator and a deity.
- 2:22:34And if we're talking about a creator of the universe,
- 2:22:36something transcendental to all known possible dimensions, we're
- 2:22:44talking about a being of ultimate intelligence.
- 2:22:47To have been able to weave all of the constants of our universe
- 2:22:53and the, you know, laws of logic, the way that the universe
- 2:22:56functions, all of its fine tuning, and to know exactly what
- 2:23:01the result would be to weave all these transcendentals together
- 2:23:05to have a coherent functional universe.
- 2:23:07So we are talking about a mind and we're talking about a very,
- 2:23:11very intelligent mind. The I mean basically the mind to
- 2:23:16the ultimate intelligence, the ultimate source of all
- 2:23:19knowledge, all wisdom, all awareness, you know, source of
- 2:23:22all creation. And whenever we see or can look
- 2:23:25at the universe. And there seems to be to me, and
- 2:23:28particularly around the realm of biology and an infusion of
- 2:23:31intelligence and order amongst an array of disorder, and in a
- 2:23:36universe where over time there's a tendency to increase disorder,
- 2:23:40not increase order. So this shows to me the idea
- 2:23:44that we are dealing with not only a creator of us, but a
- 2:23:48creator of the entire universe that weaves all of this together
- 2:23:52and makes it work in its function.
- 2:23:54So I agree, I agree basement says God doesn't need our
- 2:23:59universe to exist, but I do believe the universe requires
- 2:24:02God. I I believe in order to have
- 2:24:05those layered cakes, you got to have your cake maker.
- 2:24:08Well, yeah, I would say any in terms of philosophy in the very
- 2:24:13least for internal critiques and atheists are very bad at this,
- 2:24:16but there is no non God possible world.
- 2:24:23So when we're talking about possible worlds like you can,
- 2:24:28you can theoretically, you know, imagine, you know, rocks flying
- 2:24:34up into the air every Sunday, like because you know, gravity,
- 2:24:38you know, reverses on this day or something like that.
- 2:24:41You can picture this type of thing.
- 2:24:43You can theorize it in your brain.
- 2:24:45But is that an actual real reality?
- 2:24:49Is that an actual logically possible reality?
- 2:24:51No, because you're talking about a complete, you know, change of
- 2:24:55many fundamental aspects of things that make our reality
- 2:24:59function, allow our universe to exist.
- 2:25:02So just because you can imagine something doesn't mean it
- 2:25:05actually fits within the spectrum of a logical,
- 2:25:08functional reality. So to us, and certainly as
- 2:25:11Christians, and I would hold this to be true only in a God
- 2:25:16universe do you have the collection of all possible
- 2:25:19worlds. You have to basically start with
- 2:25:22God. In my view, and certainly from
- 2:25:24our view, and certainly with any internal critiques, proposing
- 2:25:28anything of a not God type universe is incoherent because
- 2:25:33now you have to if you're. Going.
- 2:25:35To imagine that you're going to have to present some sort of
- 2:25:37model or justification as to how of all of these transcendentals
- 2:25:42and facts of reality all weave together, all these non
- 2:25:45naturalistic, non materialistic things all weave together to
- 2:25:49function coherently and properly.
- 2:25:51And you have to propose some sort of model that rivals or
- 2:25:54seems more sensical or more justifiable than the idea of an
- 2:25:57ultimate God or an ultimate sentience.
- 2:26:00So, and that's a, you know, to me that that is something that
- 2:26:03they have to do if they're trying to lay the claim that
- 2:26:06will not God. Well, that's fine.
- 2:26:08I mean, you can say not God, but you do not get to claim just
- 2:26:12just by demanding that your stance is the epistemological
- 2:26:16neutral position of not God. You know, this is a competition
- 2:26:19of models and you don't get to just claim the neutral position.
- 2:26:24You know, I could do the same. I could just claim the neutral
- 2:26:26position. Oh, yeah, no, there's just,
- 2:26:28there's just a God and you have to prove there isn't.
- 2:26:30You know, I can just claim the natural static position.
- 2:26:33It doesn't mean it's justified with atheists.
- 2:26:34It's not justified. This is not just the natural
- 2:26:36static state of affairs that people will fall into
- 2:26:40systematically in any kind of way.
- 2:26:42And they can't claim that somehow their epistemology just
- 2:26:45naturally can begin with a not God universe when especially
- 2:26:49when they're on epistemology could be flawed and they could
- 2:26:51have an incorrect starting point.
- 2:26:53So, you know, to, to me, the, the atheists really make a lot
- 2:26:58of desperate grabs to try to justify a worldview by claiming
- 2:27:04some sort of static position. But at the end of the day, we
- 2:27:06are talking about a competition of models.
- 2:27:09And if they're going to say not God, if they're going to say
- 2:27:11anything but God, I expect them to do a little bit better than
- 2:27:15anything but God. I mean, even if they embrace the
- 2:27:19absurdity, as I've seen some of them do, like like an infinite
- 2:27:22regress, at least that's something as opposed to, well, I
- 2:27:26don't know what it is, but I know it's not God, which tends
- 2:27:29to be seemingly how most of these atheists argue.
- 2:27:32It's very, very stupid. And it and it shows their
- 2:27:34emotional whims really. Honestly, if someone's
- 2:27:37communicating like that, like I don't believe in a God, like I
- 2:27:41don't know what it is. I.
- 2:27:42Don't know what's you know. You know, confirming and holding
- 2:27:46all these transcendentals together.
- 2:27:47I don't know what's out there, but I know it's not God.
- 2:27:51You know, we're not dealing with someone who's being
- 2:27:53intellectually honest at that point.
- 2:27:56That's more of a gamble. Well, I don't know what it is,
- 2:27:59but I'm sure it's not God like they have to substantiate that.
- 2:28:03And second of all, my next question for you is what are God
- 2:28:06thoughts? There was a guy that used to
- 2:28:13come in at clubhouse and troll me with that question.
- 2:28:15What are you? Guys say that over and over
- 2:28:18again. That was funny.
- 2:28:19That was freaking. Yeah.
- 2:28:20Well, if you can imagine thoughts in a non temporal
- 2:28:23consciousness, that's what they are.
- 2:28:25He just didn't like that answer. He wanted it.
- 2:28:27He. Wanted God, you know.
- 2:28:28The amazing thing was he wanted God to have the mind of a man.
- 2:28:31He was not willing to accept any argument that God's mind was not
- 2:28:37temporal, was not chronological, where God had series of thoughts
- 2:28:44and ideas in sequence. He couldn't understand what I
- 2:28:48was saying about the idea of a consciousness that has no
- 2:28:52temporal progression to it, where there is no time at all.
- 2:28:56In a weird way, atheists when you when you present the idea of
- 2:28:59the Christian God being timeless.
- 2:29:02I don't know why they do this, but they always attribute that
- 2:29:05to mean infinite time, infinite backwards and infinite forwards.
- 2:29:10And that's not what we're talking about.
- 2:29:11In fact that's what leads to the absurdity of a non causal
- 2:29:16reality or a reality where basically you have an infinite
- 2:29:21regress. If there's any chronology to
- 2:29:24God, we never. Get to.
- 2:29:26If there's an think of it this way, if there's an infinite
- 2:29:30number of thoughts that God has, If God has chronology and each
- 2:29:34one of his thoughts is a sequence and God is eternal as
- 2:29:39it always existed, go as far back as you can that way and as
- 2:29:43far back as you go, he has existed and I've applied now
- 2:29:46some chronology to God. So we now have an infinite
- 2:29:50number of thoughts in God's mind before he ever gets to the
- 2:29:55thought create the universe. What that means is the universe
- 2:30:01never gets created. So it's, it's kind of like if if
- 2:30:07you are going to wait in line to buy a movie ticket and you have
- 2:30:12an infinite number of people in front of you before you can get
- 2:30:16your ticket, when are you going to get your ticket?
- 2:30:19Exactly. So that there is that
- 2:30:21temporality. There is that chronology there.
- 2:30:23Well, they have to rely on some wild extrapolations from things
- 2:30:28like bee theory of time and non causal realities and causes
- 2:30:32being able to be reversed or consequential or, or
- 2:30:35simultaneous and stuff. And they like to play, play
- 2:30:37little games like Leophyllus likes to play games about, you
- 2:30:40know, the, the special relativity and stuff like that
- 2:30:43and how relativity will somehow erase the consideration of
- 2:30:46causal chains. And it's a whatever, you know,
- 2:30:49they will embrace absurdity and desperation to try and clean
- 2:30:52some of this idea. But for anyone willing to, I
- 2:30:55think, accept things with a certain reasonable
- 2:30:59correspondence and coherence to reality is to not embrace weird
- 2:31:04bizarre absurdities like some sort of actualized Infinity or
- 2:31:08infinite regress. And even ones like a
- 2:31:11deconstruction zone, I've heard present the idea acceptably of
- 2:31:15an infinite regress, which I find just absolutely absurd. 01
- 2:31:21second, we got a person named Chris.
- 2:31:22Keith. He come in the room, but he
- 2:31:24doesn't have Chris. Yeah, I know.
- 2:31:25He's good. Yeah.
- 2:31:26Hey, Chris. Just making sure someone kills
- 2:31:28the avatar. OK.
- 2:31:29Yeah. I want to talk to you, but I
- 2:31:31want to talk to you about the him, the regress.
- 2:31:33But. I I dropped out a minute ago.
- 2:31:37You're good bud, right so. Yeah, actually in in your case,
- 2:31:42yes, the fact that when are you ever gonna get your ticket is
- 2:31:47the infinite regress. And that's not what we're
- 2:31:50talking about. So whenever they run to that,
- 2:31:52that is basically the caricature of Godzi turned out this is the
- 2:31:56error when they try to do an internal critique and they start
- 2:31:59attributing things to God that aren't part of the claim.
- 2:32:02Well, here's the thing. Because space or time or
- 2:32:05chronology. Or matter or.
- 2:32:06Any of these. Things makes it basically fall
- 2:32:09into a modal collapse. That's what they want.
- 2:32:11So they want to attribute these materialistic or naturalistic
- 2:32:15ideas or components or, or basically forcing God to be
- 2:32:19perfectly quantifiable at our finite level.
- 2:32:22And this is not, this is not coherent to the claim that we're
- 2:32:25making. They're not attacking the
- 2:32:26Christian God if they're playing these games right.
- 2:32:29So, and then if you're, if you are going to make God
- 2:32:32quantifiable, they have also made now the error of putting
- 2:32:36parts in him, which is not right, you know, because he's
- 2:32:40quantified. So yeah, the question is like,
- 2:32:43what is he made of? How is he affected?
- 2:32:46Where where is he placed? Is he, is he a product of
- 2:32:49something else? Like that just completely
- 2:32:51destroys the butchers. The idea that the guy isn't is,
- 2:32:55is not contingent whatsoever. So when you so that's like
- 2:33:01that's like asking, that's like that's like put it this way,
- 2:33:07that's like I want to put. On my shoe.
- 2:33:11But I don't know when. But I don't know.
- 2:33:13When I'm ever going to put this, put my shoe.
- 2:33:15But yet you have, yet you have well, yet you have reality.
- 2:33:23It has been conceived and. Fine, granting the premise that
- 2:33:27God has thoughts, He isn't dependent upon those thoughts,
- 2:33:33since those thoughts exists within himself.
- 2:33:38And knowing that God is rational, well, he cannot allow
- 2:33:42an infinite regress He knows better not to do.
- 2:33:44This. So those thoughts and it's and
- 2:33:49it really in. Terms of really when?
- 2:33:50You're describing what a thought is like right off the bat there
- 2:33:54you have a problem because you actually have a loaded problem
- 2:33:57in the question itself. Because when you're asking like
- 2:34:01say for instance, like what are God thoughts what you're doing
- 2:34:06when it's already preloaded? In the question.
- 2:34:09You're loading it with the definition of what a thought is,
- 2:34:12and the definition that we have access to as to what a thought
- 2:34:15is has nothing to do with the type of thoughts transcendental
- 2:34:19entities are capable of. The definition of the word
- 2:34:22thought per SE is really. About the mental.
- 2:34:24Processes of a physical mind. So really right off the bat, the
- 2:34:31challenge, the challenge the question is, is essentially
- 2:34:33incoherent 'cause we're talking about a non temporal
- 2:34:37consciousness, you know, and depending on where you go with
- 2:34:41it in terms of dissecting theology of God's nature, like
- 2:34:46Kenny would have held to the idea that almost even asking the
- 2:34:52question at all is completely incoherent for the reason that
- 2:34:55God is pure action. So there's no, so there's no
- 2:35:00potentiality. To him and I.
- 2:35:02Understand why he was saying that, and I agree, because once
- 2:35:06you give God potentiality of action, you've now made the same
- 2:35:10error where you've attributed some sort of chronology to him.
- 2:35:13As in there is a chronology to him prior to his active active
- 2:35:18state. Since there can't be a state of
- 2:35:21him prior to his active state, he must simply be action.
- 2:35:25By his own frame of reference, he is just pure action.
- 2:35:29Yeah. So.
- 2:35:29And I kind of agree with that because that would I mean that
- 2:35:33that solves it it, doesn't it? It doesn't require God to have
- 2:35:36some sort of progression or, or temporality to him, you know.
- 2:35:42OK, well, I got to get, you know, cleaning and I hope you
- 2:35:46guys will still be here while I'm done.
- 2:35:48But I just like to say thanks, Smokey.
- 2:35:50Thanks, Brett. Hello, Chris.
- 2:35:53Welcome back, Chris. Thanks for having me.
- 2:35:56Thank you for good to see you buddy.
- 2:35:59I will see you next. Time or I will be back.
- 2:36:02These floors need to be. Cleaned, and I don't want to see
- 2:36:04you, buddy. Yeah, Good to see you guys, too.
- 2:36:06Brett Keane. Thanks for having me do it.
- 2:36:08It's a pleasure. Hope we can still do these
- 2:36:10things again. Making something.
- 2:36:13Of course. It was nice talking to you, man.
- 2:36:15You're awesome. All right, let me.
- 2:36:20Straighten the screen out real quick.
- 2:36:24I'm kind of hungry, but I think I might just get something.
- 2:36:27You guys got an Arby's? No, no, no.
- 2:36:32Well, I mean, yes, but. I don't want to.
- 2:36:34I don't want to go there. It's.
- 2:36:35Not. Great.
- 2:36:36You're going to get the burrito. You're going to get the burrito,
- 2:36:41aren't you? I.
- 2:36:43Don't know. I don't know what I'm feeling
- 2:36:45like. Tonight we're just we're going
- 2:36:46to talk. About it, let's see what's.
- 2:36:47Open so we'll find something. I don't know when you're ready
- 2:36:52for me to shut it down. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I'm
- 2:36:56ready to start and go and. Figure out something to eat
- 2:36:58here. I'm getting pretty hungry, so.
- 2:37:00But this is fun. This is a great night.
- 2:37:01I enjoyed it. Yeah.
- 2:37:03It's a blast in the past, wasn't it?
- 2:37:06Well. It's for real.
- 2:37:07Well, Kincaid came inside. Chat and he's like, what is
- 2:37:09going on? Was I transported back to 2016?
- 2:37:13Got G man in the room and knock and Brett and yeah.
- 2:37:19Right. Really felt.
- 2:37:20Like it? Yeah, you didn't, right?
- 2:37:24I know that's crazy. What do you say I play a?
- 2:37:27Track Knock asked me today. Knock asked me.
- 2:37:29Today is like, what happened with you and Loesch.
- 2:37:31I if I remember correctly, she used to hate you.
- 2:37:33I'm like, yeah, she did, but you know, I charmed her.
- 2:37:37So. Yeah.
- 2:37:37Well, I still think you're a fan.
- 2:37:45It's great. Lovely.
- 2:37:47Well, this is fun, Brett. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
- 2:37:48This is a good night. This is neat.
- 2:37:50I hope. All audience enjoyed it, both
- 2:37:52sides. We were dual streaming it
- 2:37:53tonight on Brett's channel as well as on mine.
- 2:37:57So I hope you guys had a really fun time.
- 2:37:59I had a great time. I I really enjoyed this.
- 2:38:01I thought it was neat having all these interactions and old
- 2:38:04characters. Even G Man was in the mix.
- 2:38:06So yeah, so super cool. I had a great time Brett.
- 2:38:08Thanks for thanks for hosting. Deal.
- 2:38:25Yo, what the fuck you staring at?
- 2:38:27Step back, clown. I was like daggers.
- 2:38:29But I'm holding this crown. Ain't no punk.
- 2:38:32I'm the spark in the dark mouth running foul foot.
- 2:38:35I'm biting like a shark. You looking for trouble?
- 2:38:37I love the storm in the street. Oops to the payment, bring the.
- 2:38:40Heat to the beat. Motherfucker, keep your gaze off
- 2:38:43my grind. I'm a king in this game.
- 2:38:45You just wasting my time. What the fuck you looking there?
- 2:38:48You'll keep it moving. Eyes on me.
- 2:38:50Burn steady grooving. Motherfucker, you don't know my
- 2:38:53pain. Snap out of my lane.
- 2:38:55Don't get burned in my flame. What the fuck you looking there?
- 2:38:58Don't test my fire. I'm a warm in the night.
- 2:39:03Watch me as I survive. I came from the dirt.
- 2:39:08Built my name in the hustle every because the story.
- 2:39:10Every fight's a muscle. You clear like you know me, but
- 2:39:13you don't know shit. I'm dodging your shave while I'm
- 2:39:15stacking my chips. God trains too big for your
- 2:39:18small Lasko. Why you hating from the sideline
- 2:39:20to come in the rope. Fuck your dirty look, Summer
- 2:39:23Phoenix, I saw Kick down the door.
- 2:39:25Leave your shut to the core. What the fuck you looking at?
- 2:39:28You'll keep it moving. I saw me, but I'm steady
- 2:39:31grooving motherfucker. You'll know my face.
- 2:39:34Yeah, out of my lane. Don't get burned.
- 2:39:36In my flame, what the? Fuck you looking at.
- 2:39:39Don't test me. I'm a wolf in the night.
- 2:39:44Watch me rise. Yeah, I see you stare, but it
- 2:39:49don't mean nothing. Talk that trash.
- 2:39:51But I keep on stunting. My heart's a furnace.
- 2:39:53My soul's untamed. You'll flicker in the dark.
- 2:39:56I'm a motherfucking flame. So turn your head.
- 2:39:59Better run from this fight. I'm a legend in the making.
- 2:40:02Burning bright in the night. What the fuck you looking at?
- 2:40:28So take your eyes off, I'm done with your glare.
- 2:40:31I'm building my empire just breathing my air motherfucker.
- 2:40:34Keep walking. Don't cross my path or feel the
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