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Daytime to Dysko, with Daniel Goddard (Entertainment, Entrepreneurship, AI, TV) · The Action Catalyst

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  Stephanie Maas: Well it is super nice to meet you.
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  Daniel Goddard: It's lovely to meet you. It's lovely to meet
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  you.
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  Stephanie Maas: I know your background, and what I kind of
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  want to focus on, that I think is really interesting and neat,
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  is how you went from this career and background that was very
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  much in the entertainment side of business, and now you're in
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  this entrepreneurial side.
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  Daniel Goddard: Life is a sequence of experiences that are
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  basically sort of a extrapolation of transitions
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  from the time you're born. Everything's a transition. What
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  happens is we go on a path. We make decisions when we're young.
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  We think this is what makes us happy, or we do what we think
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  will make us our parents happy. In my situation, I ended up
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  going to universities study Business and Economics in
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  Australia and Sydney. I had six months left on my degree, and I
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  dropped out. I dropped out because I'd reached a place in
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  my life where I realized that you get one life. If you're not
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  making yourself happy, what is the life you're living? So to
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  the great detriment of my father in particular, who was a man who
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  grew up very poor, didn't have a college degree, he's I want my
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  son to have everything I never had. I dropped out, and I
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  actually decided to pivot into acting. I'd always dabbled in it
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  as a kid with school plays, etc, my mom was more encouraging
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  because she understood in her life she wanted to do law, but
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  she couldn't do it because her parents couldn't afford to
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  support her, so she had to do a degree, which is basically a
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  Bachelor of Arts, which allowed her to work part time and go to
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  school part time, but law was a full time degree. So I think my
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  mother was more sympathetic to the understanding of you have
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  dreams and ambitions in life and things like that kind of
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  supersede, you know, expectations. It was a big deal.
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  But I think what happens as you move forward and you you take on
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  the path of hopefully choosing where you think you're meant to
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  be, you understand that everything is business. It
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  doesn't matter whether you're a model, an actor, an
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  entrepreneur, whatever, everything follows the path of
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  expectations, in a sense that behaviors you do determine your
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  outcome and your success. So if you want to be a model or an
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  actor, you have to be a business person first. You can't just
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  say, I look a certain way, or I believe I've got this role now,
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  therefore I can be a drama queen. So for me, the hardest
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  shift I had was moving from acting into entrepreneurial
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  side, where I was no longer perceived as a person who was an
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  actor and I was now perceived as a business person. Took five
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  years, basically, to start being taken seriously, but all of it
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  is part of the journey of life, as long as you follow a certain
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  set of paradigms, which is, always be objective, always be
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  gracious, always be respectful, and work your butt off as hard
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  as you can, I think those transitions can be easier, but
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  They'll never be completely without pain. You look at anyone
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  who succeed in anything in life, pain is what makes you stronger.
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  Pain is what makes you more successful. Because anyone who
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  lives in a space of pleasure, comfort never grows.
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  Stephanie Maas: I love the way that you liken business to
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  everything. And I would imagine, again, coming from this
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  entertainment side of the house that had to set you up for
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  tremendous success, knowing, hey, again, you have to have
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  talent. You've got to have skill, but approaching it with a
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  business mindset that alone sets you apart from your competition,
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  your peers, so forth and so on, and then also the rejection you
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  had to face. But how did those help you set you apart?
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  Daniel Goddard: Sure, I think the first thing that we have to
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  have in all aspects of our life, no matter what we do, is there's
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  never a sense of entitlement rejection. It permeates every
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  aspect of our life, from the time we're little, whether we go
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  to kindergarten the first day we want to be friends with someone,
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  and they ignore us and they laugh at us, we're rejected.
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  Moving that through our teenage years, into our first career
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  journey, there's always going to be rejection that said in acting
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  and modeling, for the rejection is greater, I think, than most
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  others, because you're being objectified. It's got nothing to
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  do with your internal block, your internal characteristics,
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  although you could argue, you know, there are some people that
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  have that they had that it factor that's an internal thing,
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  that's not an external thing. That's endogenous, not
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  exogenous. You'll find generally, it's the person who
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  had has more substance. You know, they went through a harder
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  childhood. They went through. Harder obstacle, or whatever it
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  was that builds character. When it comes to acting, it's a
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  different kettle of fish, because it's not just how you
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  look. I've had auditions in the past where I'd say the character
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  breakdown, you really go, it's me, looks like me, sounds like
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  me. So you think all you need to do now is get the dialog right,
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  and then you'll see who they cast. And they cast someone
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  looks nothing like it. And you'll think, what happened? I
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  don't understand it. It's me. It must be me. There's something
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  wrong with me, but it's not. The more you do it, the more you
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  start to start to understand is that the people in positions of
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  power, I would say, eight times out of 10, have no idea what
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  they want until it walks in the room. They just don't know,
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  because you're dealing with too many X factors. Of you don't
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  know where styles and trends are going. You don't know what the
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  audience wants. So generally, you're just kind of like, you
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  know, throwing stuff at the walls to see what sticks. You'll
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  see so many artists who will get released, and then they don't
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  get a fan base, and then every now and then, you'll get a few
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  that break out. And generally they're the ones that don't,
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  don't conform to the ideology of this is what you're meant to be
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  when you stepped into that role, and they make it their own. Like
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  my soap career, I did like 1100 episodes or so when I first
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  started that the character was a blank slate, and you had writers
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  writing a character that they thought was going to be this
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  character over here, I read that character and I interpret to be
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  a character that's going to be over here. I can't go in the
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  room and say, Hey guys, I've got an idea it should be like this,
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  like I could never write a soap opera. I can never produce that
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  amount of content. But what I can do is take the content I'm
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  given and interpret it in a way that I believe will make that
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  content and myself mesh in a way that I believe it can be
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  delivered to an audience that will make them have a more
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  entertaining experience. It's like being a bull in a china
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  shop, but not breaking the China, but letting them know
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  that there is something different about you that makes
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  you interesting to see. Oh, my God, he's going to break the
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  China all of a sudden. No, he didn't, because you're a
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  professional. And I think if you tally all these things up, you
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  end up forging your own career. And once you do that, then it's
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  another fine line between not letting it go to your head and
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  thinking you now have the power, because you never have the
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  power. So you have to, at all times, be grateful for what you
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  have. You can never outshine the master. You can never bite the
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  hand that feeds you. It's a dance. You will never be leading
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  the dance. As an entertainer, as an entrepreneur, you have the
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  capacity to lead the dance.
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  Stephanie Maas: So when did it stop being so personal, and when
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  did that business mindset come through to say, Hey, this is
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  business. I got to learn to play the game. I got to learn to
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  dance the dance, and walk that fine line.
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  Daniel Goddard: It probably happened around my character on
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  young and the restless in 2011 was killed off by the head
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  writer, and I couldn't understand it at this point in
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  my life. I was a business person first, and to me, everything was
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  good business. It's either good business or it's bad business.
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  And the head writer at the time decided they wanted to kill off
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  my character because my character was popular, and they
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  thought it'd be this big story moment, it would be a burst in
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  the ratings and whatever. I was completely gobsmacked, because
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  they went against the grain of what I believe to be true. If
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  you are an executive and you work for a multi billion dollar
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  company, you have the best interest of that company, which
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  means that you want to make that company as much money as
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  possible. I'd always kind of thought that I was in the hands
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  of people that knew what they were doing. So when I was killed
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  off, I went they don't know what they're doing because the fans
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  instantly went ballistic. They rented an airplane, flew it
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  above CBS, where the banner saying, Bring Daniel Goddard
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  back as Kane. So at that point, I got a call from Sony, and the
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  head writer ended up being fired, not because of me, but
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  just it was a combination of moments that took place. So I
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  think for me at that point, it was concreted in my mind that
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  you can have multi tiered businesses, but at the end of
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  the day, the business that oversees all the business
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  generally, has one thing on mind, which is the stock price
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  the shareholder respect and value for that company. So as
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  long as you stay within your lane, and you keep your head
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  down, hopefully the incompetence along the way that tries to
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  derail you will be corrected by the system, because the system
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  will always want to drive towards, you know, economic
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  success. So does that mean I was, I was killed off in the
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  first time around, because I thought I could reinvent the
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  wheel and change things and move the character in the direction I
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  wanted. Possibly. Was it because it was a successful character,
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  and they thought that it, by killing me off, would push the
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  ratings up for a certain amount of time, and advertising for
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  that period would do well, possibly. But for me, it was
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  just a learning curve where I really just saw with just
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  clarity, the way the machine operates and the way that we are
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  just cogs in the machine. And once you accept it, it's not
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  personal, then you can put that to rest, and then say, how do I
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  be the most efficient cog in the machine? And then the next
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  question is. Is, if this machine is not as efficient as I choose,
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  or would want to be part of, how do I either create the machine
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  or become part of the machine that is going to be the
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  efficient machine that I can be that cog in.
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  Stephanie Maas: Super powerful. So let's take that. What got you
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  to the point, and what was the process of you saying, Okay, I
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  now want to lead the dance?
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  Daniel Goddard: I've always been an entrepreneur at heart,
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  because to me, acting was not some form of, like, emotional
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  escape or some form of deep seeking process where I had to
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  discover myself. I mean, I did all that work. I've read all the
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  books. Greatest book ever written, though, by the way, is
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  augmentino, the greatest salesman, the salesman in the
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  world. I'll tell you about that book. I was reading that book,
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  and to read it properly. It takes like 200 something days,
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  because, you know, you have to read every scrolling, new to
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  night, right? I just met a new girl. We had ended up after this
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  date going back to her place. Very first time she makes
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  dinner, we have dinner, we get into bed. I didn't have the book
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  with me, and I basically said to her, I said, Listen, I'm sorry.
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  I gotta go. I gotta go. I thought to myself, I'm going to
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  explain why I have to go, because I don't want to give her
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  anything. I don't want to give her a complex going, well, I did
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  all this. I did all that. We had such a great time. I made this
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  what I do wrong? I thought, you need to know why. And I said,
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  here's why I got to go. It's a book. You have to read it three
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  times a day. I don't have it with me. I have to go and read
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  the book. I was fortunate enough to have her go. I totally
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  understand that. I respect that. That was great. I think being an
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  entrepreneur allowed me to have more control over the business
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  process. But once again, you're dealing with rejection in 2021 I
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  created a product called SeePay. SeePay was the world's first
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  visual payment system. Basically, you hold up your
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  phone, I can look at you through my camera, and then, if you have
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  SeePay, right above where you're standing, an avatar appears on
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  the phone. Generally, you use your face, because the goal is
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  to correlate the avatar to the person. You would touch the
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  avatar. And then I could send you money. So I could send you
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  money with Apple, Pay, Google, pay, direct deposit, credit
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  card, whatever. Soft launched March 2021, now I thought, I've
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  now created technology. It's never been done. Everyone's
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  using Venmo. Everyone's using cash app. The biggest problem I
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  had with payments is, I would say, for example, you know, meet
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  you Stephanie, and your last name is spell M, double A S,
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  right? Let's say, for example, I thought it was m, a s, s, or I'm
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  typing it in, I type, I spell it wrong. Send the money the wrong,
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  Stephanie Maas, and I can't get the money back. So I'm like,
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  I've created a system now where I can hold up my phone, see you
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  pay you, I know you get the money. There's no error. I built
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  it, launched it within three weeks. It did $80,000 in
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  transactions. Didn't put a cent or a second into marketing. So I
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  want to be purely organic. And I get this meeting with this mega
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  investor, one of the people that basically was early into Google.
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  The guy in the room says to me, after I did the pitch I showed
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  in the product, we demoed it. So why would someone use it? And
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  the first thing I thought was, am I being tested? So I'm
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  thinking, How do you respond to that in a way where you pass the
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  test, you don't seem conceited, you don't seem obnoxious or
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  condescending or any of these things, and because no one wants
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  to work with someone like that. So I said to the guy, that's a
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  great question. I said, Do you use Venmo? He goes, Yeah, I use
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  Venmo every day. I said, Okay, let's, let's pretend right now
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  we're going back in time 10 years, and I'm walking in right
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  now, and I'm not, I'm not showing you SeePay. I'm showing
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  you Venmo. What are you using before Venmo to transfer money,
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  Ach, direct deposit, debit transactions, right? I've
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  created this peer to peer payment app where I can enter
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  your name just send you money. What would you say? Didn't he
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  didn't really say anything. Days like, Okay, I said, See, we
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  know, based upon what I pitched you, that if you travel forward
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  in time 10 years, that you would be using it. He thought about
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  it, and then he said to me, but why would anybody use SeePay
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  when they can use Venmo? And at that point, I realized it wasn't
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  a test. It's like a boxer, and they fight their way out of the
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  streets, and they get to the top, and next thing you know,
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  they got the money. They got the cars. They never have to worry
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  about money again. They eat the lobster every day. They don't do
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  the training. They lose their title, and that's what happens
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  to entrepreneurs, they lose that hunger and that drive and that
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  entrepreneurial spirit. And I realized at that point, this is
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  almost the same thing as entertainment, where you're
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  dealing with people that just because they've sold the
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  company, just because they have the position, that doesn't mean
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  they know what they're talking about. So how do you overcome
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  that rejection? And that's when you have to say to yourself,
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  what is it I want in life? Do I want to be the happy guy that
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  sits on a farm somewhere and just just enjoys his day and one
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  day that's my life? Or do you want to be the person that's
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  prepared to say, Okay, now I understand the rules of
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  engagement. Let's play you still. Can't control the
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  machine. You still can't dictate what machines going to purchase,
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  but what you can do is weather the storm and commit to
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  something because at the end of the day, that's who you are, and
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  that's all you want to do. So you have to find a way to push
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  forward through the through the storm. But that, to me, was a
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  phenomenal learning curve. So it just turned out that that was
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  not the guy, that was not the time, and it allowed me then to
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  start to move to other entrepreneurial endeavors, which
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  I believe now is the time for those to come into fruition.
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  Stephanie Maas: Wow.
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  Daniel Goddard: So I ended up launching in 2020 a digital
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  marketing company. It's called under the in short for under the
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  influence, I took my understanding of branding and
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  everything is a brand. You're a brand. Young and the Restless is
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  a brand. Anything that is consumed is a brand. I think the
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  difficult thing for social media. Social media has made
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  everybody think it's easy to be a brand. It's like everyone on
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  Instagram is a model. No, you're not. The number one thing you
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  have to do is remove subjective delusion from your mindset. I
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  went into marketing, and my first client was a girl who had
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  a home fitness workout, and she said, I want to kind of launch
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  my thing, and I don't know what to do. And I said to me, tell me
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  what it is you do. Tell me what you do. She goes, Well, I go to
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  people's backyards and we do workouts. I said, So what's the
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  workout? Who's your demographic? Well, it's predominantly women
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  with young kids who want to get back in shape, and they want to
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  go like, you know, get tight, and they want to do this, and
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  they want to have, like, cute butts. I said, Okay, so it's
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  backyard booty club. Backyard booty club. So next thing, you
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  know, I go, I film all her stuff, I cut it together. I'm
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  just doing this myself at this time, creating her social doing
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  this. And then from there I went, Okay, that made sense.
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  It's got to first of all, have an interesting sort of Title, an
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  interesting brand. Then it's got to have a message that makes me
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  want to check it out. Then it's got to have a product that I
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  think is actually has some substance or has some value to
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  it. So we moved through a bunch of different brands, created a
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  bunch of different brands, launched the brands. They do
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  well, get more clients, etc. And I realized I'm decent at this.
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  My business partner and I got to this point where we talk about
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  how when we were doing so, when I was doing soap opera, you
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  would go to fan events. So you go to appearances or
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  conventions, and you would meet all these people that would say
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  they're getting lined to do a photo in a meet and greet, and
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  you'd sign autograph and have a chat and take a photo. And the
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  amount of people that I met that said the girl I'm with, or the
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  guy I'm with, or the group of girls, or whatever it was, would
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  say, because of your character and your show. We met, we have
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  things to talk about. We talk about this, we talk about that,
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  and I we never knew how much we had in common once we started
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  talking we love the same teens, the same movies, the same
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  hobbies. So it got me thinking, How many people do we walk by
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  every day that we just pass that have so much in common with us
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  that we would never know. We'd never know there must be someone
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  right now on the other side of the planet, whether it be in
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  Finland, Tokyo, Botswana, it doesn't matter that has the same
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  things in common that I do. So I'm like, how do you find those
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  people? And then how do you streamline the process so that
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  you can universally pass it out to people, so that people no
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  longer have to be a stranger again, we came up with the idea
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  of Dysko, and Dysko basically is where my heart and soul lies at
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  the moment. And Dysko is an AI networking application. It
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  allows people to create a profile, choose from 100 social
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  tags that are preset and 100 work tags. You can also add your
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  own tags if you want, but generally we have it like 100
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  every job, every occupation, every hobby, whatever you
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  choose. Just click, click, click, click, click, click,
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  click. You make your profile. Then when you walk out of the
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  house and walk around, you can set your radius to be half a
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  mile, point two mile, up to 10 miles, if anyone enters that geo
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  fence radius. As you walk, it follows you around. You match.
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  The app notifies you that person's in your area. It'll say
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  you have say 10 tags in common, five tags in common, 20 tags in
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  common. You then see the person's profile. You see the
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  tags you have in common. You tack the tags that you want to
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  talk that person about and send an AI message. And the AI
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  message will be an icebreaker for Hey, we're in this
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  proximity. We have all these things in common. It's good to
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  meet you. So it initially began in the idea with the idea of
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  bringing just strangers together, but then we started
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  approaching universities, because I have a son in college
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  at the moment. I have another son who's 16, and one of the
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  things that we notice is that kids are leaving going to
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  colleges, and the first year is hell. They don't know anybody
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  they they are struggling to get this social life kicked off and
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  going, which they've heard about in the college experience. But
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  they've got to get their grades, whatever. So I'm like, they
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  must, I say them all the time. There must be kids walking
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  around that have the same thing in common with you. He goes,
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  Dad, you don't understand. You can't even go up to them and
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  like, they're in a group and put your head in be like, Hey guys,
• 20:05
  what are you talking about? There's look at you and you
• 20:08
  realize these kids have lost that in place, in person, skill
• 20:12
  set that we had going to school. And they hide behind their phone
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  and their screen. And so I'm like, how do we create this
• 20:19
  technology that make the human experience greater. And then we
• 20:22
  went to these colleges, from Syracuse to Kentucky University
• 20:26
  to Southern University, and we pitched them. We would say them,
• 20:29
  what are you finding? Is the most prominent obstacle that new
• 20:33
  students are facing? And they'll tell you, well, they don't find
• 20:36
  friends easily. They don't communicate with their
• 20:39
  professors correctly. Then Okay, so what if I told you that we
• 20:42
  have a piece of technology that can help a student and faculty
• 20:46
  streamline the way that they connect about things that
• 20:49
  actually need to connect about. Now I'm listening. Southern
• 20:52
  University was really interesting because it's an HBCU
• 20:55
  school. It's the largest one in the country, and Southern
• 20:58
  University said to us, the biggest problem we have is that
• 21:02
  a lot of the kids who come here come from very small, rural
• 21:05
  towns. It's not that they don't make friends easily. They have
• 21:09
  this culture shock, and when they get to the big city in the
• 21:12
  school, they shut down, and most of them shut down to the point
• 21:15
  where their grades start to fall apart, and then they drop out.
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  We said, Okay, so here's our solution. Disco will allow a
• 21:22
  kid, before he gets to college, on the very first day, to place
• 21:26
  his Dysko profile at the school. We call it Dysko billboards. So
• 21:29
  you can place your profile on campus. Every kid can do it. So
• 21:33
  let's say I know I'm going to go to that school in September, and
• 21:36
  we're now in June, I can just place it there, and every kid
• 21:40
  who's going to go to that school can instantly start connecting
• 21:43
  with other kids before they get there, make friends. So on day
• 21:47
  one, they've already got their friends. The professors can put
• 21:50
  their profile as a Dysko billboard there and use all the
• 21:53
  hashtags of what they're starting. It could be like, you
• 21:57
  know, Professor Smith's econ 101, class. It doesn't matter.
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  So you know, if I'm going to go in these classes here, all the
• 22:03
  tags that I should be following, you can then streamline the
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  whole process, create study groups, but if anything, then
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  the first day you walk on campus, I can look around me and
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  see all the people that match with me. And as a dad with kids
• 22:17
  going through this, this meant a lot to me, but then to hear from
• 22:20
  the colleges that this will change the college experience
• 22:24
  with the kids. We knew we were on the right path. The next
• 22:27
  thing we're going, Okay, how do you use it for a business
• 22:30
  application? So we pitched HPE Hewlett Packard enterprises, and
• 22:34
  they said to us that convention spaces for them took, say, 120
• 22:37
  people to fly there, you know, the carbon footprint and all the
• 22:41
  sustainability stuff. But outside of that, they would go
• 22:44
  there and say, we have a list of 10 deals we want to try and
• 22:47
  close. If we have one of these meetings set up where we think
• 22:51
  post convention, we can close it. It's successful. And we
• 22:54
  said, so here's what our technology does. Anyone can be
• 22:57
  anywhere in the world and attend a convention without having to
• 23:00
  be there. So you place your profile there, you have all the
• 23:04
  hashtags that define you. So now you don't have to go to the
• 23:07
  convention. I could be on the beach in Hawaii with my kids, or
• 23:11
  I can attend 10 conventions in a day. Place my Dysko billboard
• 23:14
  profile at any convention I want. And when people are either
• 23:17
  there walking around in person, we Match AI takes over, or
• 23:21
  everyone can just drop in and start connecting and doing it
• 23:24
  that way. The response to that has been very, very strong. So
• 23:27
  all of the rejection allowed me to start saying I wasn't meant
• 23:31
  to do that. I was meant to do this. And I think as long as
• 23:34
  what you're doing has a social conscious, and the goal is to
• 23:38
  create a creative society where we grow, as long as you adhere
• 23:41
  to that understanding and you realize that you're on a path of
• 23:45
  creation, and you have a greater purpose for that creation that
• 23:48
  will basically allow people to have a greater experience. It'll
• 23:52
  bear the fruit. So for me now, Dysko and what it does that's
• 23:55
  kind of where my journeys led me. At the moment, I'm extremely
• 23:59
  excited to see where it goes from here. Fingers crossed, incredible.
• 24:02
  Stephanie Maas: Yeah, I've got older kids, and most of my
• 24:05
  nieces and nephews are at either going to college or and just
• 24:09
  that side of it, that humanitarian side of it...
• 24:11
  Daniel Goddard: And think about dating too. Like it's my goal to
• 24:13
  put Tinder out of business. Because right now you go on like
• 24:17
  I hear, I hear from, ironically, the same girl who did the
• 24:21
  fitness one. When I was talking to her about this, I said she
• 24:24
  was single. And I said, So do you use dating app? She goes,
• 24:26
  yeah. I said, which one? She goes, all of them. I said, What
• 24:28
  do you mean all of them? She goes, Well, that's what you do.
• 24:31
  Oh, and I said, So what's that experience like? She goes, Well,
• 24:33
  you see the same people on every app because everyone's doing the
• 24:35
  same thing. I said, So what's the number one problem? She
• 24:39
  goes, you don't find people on the level of depth you want,
• 24:43
  because it's like, I like pets. You like pets. I don't smoke. I
• 24:47
  don't smoke. We allow you to have specificity with who you
• 24:51
  are and what you do. You could have hashtag underwater basket
• 24:54
  weaving, right? We give you that specificity. You could have
• 24:58
  hashtag Tom. Brady sucks. Tom Brady is the goat. So you can
• 25:03
  really narrow it down, so you realize there is a need for
• 25:06
  people to create their own systems in order to match and
• 25:10
  connect. And we give people that. So I think we have three
• 25:13
  lanes between schools, conventions and dating. And
• 25:18
  ironically, we had a had a meeting with a very large VC
• 25:20
  company, and they said, You need to stay in one lane. And this
• 25:23
  harken back to SeePay. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe these
• 25:26
  people saying this to me. And my response to them was, I said, I
• 25:30
  absolutely, absolutely agreed. I said, What Lane Do you think we
• 25:33
  should be in? And they stopped because I gave them three
• 25:36
  scenarios, yeah. And they go the convention space. I said, You
• 25:41
  know what? I said, I completely understand why you said that.
• 25:44
  But let me ask you this question, if we launched the app
• 25:47
  and people who are not convention space, people start
• 25:50
  using it, and people start using it for dating, would you mind
• 25:52
  then if we became a two lane company, not just a one lane
• 25:55
  company, and they said, Yeah, you can do that. So once again,
• 25:59
  they don't know, theaters, going past experience states, the man
• 26:02
  who chases two rabbits catches neither.
• 26:05
  Stephanie Maas: Yes.
• 26:06
  Daniel Goddard: And that's what their point is. You can't be
• 26:07
  like, Oh, we're over here. Oh, we're over here. So I'm like,
• 26:09
  No, we're very focused on one lane. But when you drive along
• 26:13
  in a highway and it's two lanes, and it opens up to four, you're
• 26:16
  allowed to change lanes. You don't have to stay in the two
• 26:19
  you're in. And they got that. So I think, if anything, it's more
• 26:22
  of a test to see if you're going to, like, go off the deep end
• 26:25
  and, like, start like, chasing rabbits, or you're going to stay
• 26:28
  focused,
• 26:29
  Stephanie Maas: Super cool. Can't wait to see that launch.
• 26:31
  You've been so generous with your time.
• 26:34
  Daniel Goddard: I just I appreciate your time very much,
• 26:36
  and I appreciate your listeners listening. For me, I just
• 26:40
  reached that point where I sort of found peace in so many
• 26:45
  different aspects of my life, where before it was just
• 26:46
  turmoil. And I would just want listeners to who are out of
• 26:51
  crossroads in their life, or even if they haven't reached a
• 26:53
  crossroad, they're in the big, open wide parking lot, and they
• 26:56
  don't know what direction to get out of the parking lot. You
• 26:59
  know, just to realize that as long as you have a passion, it
• 27:05
  doesn't matter if it's repairing old shoes or or trimming the
• 27:11
  roses in a garden, as long as you have a passion for
• 27:14
  something, you're so far in front of everybody else, because
• 27:18
  most people are just automatons who are just like just
• 27:22
  robotically grinding their way through life up until they die,
• 27:25
  and the goal in life is to do more than that.
• 27:29
  Stephanie Maas: That is awesome. Thank you so much.
• 27:31
  Daniel Goddard: My pleasure, Steph, take care. Love to talk
• 27:33
  to you. I wish you all the best.