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- 0:00What is going on? Beautiful people.
- 0:02Today we're going to be talking about can you go no contact in
- 0:07the same household? Is that even possible?
- 0:10If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:12I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist.
- 0:14And welcome to another episode of The Narcissist Code.
- 0:33That's the question of the day, isn't it?
- 0:36What kind of bear is best? No, but that is the absolute
- 0:40question of the day. Can you go no contact in the
- 0:44same household that you that your narcissistic partner or
- 0:48spouse lives in or ex lives in? Is that even possible, y'all?
- 0:52So before we dive in, make sure you check out the support groups
- 0:55and the courses. More to come at
- 0:57courses.mentalillness.net. Just had to plug that in there.
- 1:01A lot of people are making great process progress in the support
- 1:05groups called the mental healers.
- 1:07But yeah, is that possible? So if you live with someone, you
- 1:10know, let's say that rewinds it a little bit, if you know
- 1:14anything about going no contact with a narcissist is right, You
- 1:18know, no contact means no access.
- 1:22Like if I'm going no contact with you, that means you have no
- 1:25further access to me. There's like no contact means
- 1:29blocking a person, no communication, not no.
- 1:32Like when there's no back and forth like pretty much you are
- 1:36we you don't that person doesn't exist to you, even though you
- 1:40might still exist to them. Like they're trying, they might
- 1:43be trying to get in contact with you, but you're not allowing any
- 1:46type of communication to go on between you and them, between
- 1:49you. But any type of communication
- 1:50between you and that person is shut off.
- 1:52It's shut down. It's been completely stifled and
- 1:55you know, smashed, slapped back to them, right?
- 1:59That's what happens at a lot of a lot of times in these
- 2:01relationships, in the relationship spaces, like a lot
- 2:04of times, like people like don't understand where no contact is
- 2:07that a lot of people think no contact is just ignoring them.
- 2:11Like there's a difference between no contact and just
- 2:13ignoring and not responding to the person.
- 2:15No contact is you like no contact.
- 2:19If this is contact, this is you actually having access to me.
- 2:22This is no contact. You know, I'm outside, I'm
- 2:27outside of your wheelhouse. You look, I'm unreachable.
- 2:29No matter how much you try to reach me, you can't get me
- 2:32because I'm no contact. You know no contact is for you
- 2:36is not to punish them, it's for you, right?
- 2:39So can you do that while living in the same house or with
- 2:41somebody? A lot of people would just say
- 2:43no, that's impossible. So is it possible?
- 2:46It could be now, It could be under certain circumstances.
- 2:50Like y'all, you have enough rooms and enough space within
- 2:54this house or within this apartment or wherever you live
- 2:56at to go no contact to avoid the person at all costs to not be
- 3:01able to see this person. Like you know, their schedule.
- 3:03You come home and you leave when they're not there.
- 3:05You don't go in the kitchen when they're in the kitchen like
- 3:08it's, it's, it's tough to do, but you have to know, know their
- 3:12schedule. You have to learn what they are,
- 3:13know where they're going and things like that.
- 3:15So they're extremely tough to do with that in mind, right?
- 3:19It's an extremely tough thing to do trying to go no contact while
- 3:23somebody is like, you know, pretty much can come knock on
- 3:26your door. That's hard as hell to do Like,
- 3:29but if you don't have like, I feel like going no contact while
- 3:32you're in the same household with somebody, it's a tough task
- 3:35and it's a tough goal to have. I feel like in this space right
- 3:41here, you don't like if you have kids and y'all live together,
- 3:44you're in the same house, y'all. It's it's, I'm not trying to be,
- 3:48you know, the doom and gloom, but I do have to be realistic.
- 3:52If you have children or you work together or you have businesses
- 3:56together and things like that, like your lives are truly
- 4:02intertwined, then it's very difficult to not talk or engage
- 4:08or do anything with this person, right?
- 4:11It's very difficult to try to parent this parent with this
- 4:15person, a Co parent with this person in the same household as
- 4:18you. That's not that you're not
- 4:19interacting with, you know, and the kids can feel that the kids
- 4:22understand. The kids can see that mom and
- 4:25dad are not talking by my parents are not talking at all.
- 4:28My parents act like each other don't exist, Especially if
- 4:30they're older, The younger kids, they might not know, you know,
- 4:33but older kids, 910-1112, you know, teenagers, young adults,
- 4:37they going to know. They like, damn, yeah, it's
- 4:39going to be a toxic household. It's very toxic, a very toxic
- 4:42household. It was a toxic house.
- 4:43It was a toxic household perhaps before you went no contact, but
- 4:47now the fact that y'all not communicated at all and you've
- 4:50cut this person off damn near completely.
- 4:53It's is you know, it's going to be a whole another ball game, a
- 4:55whole another space to be in and whatnot.
- 4:58And it's very uniquely tough to experience and tough to deal
- 5:01with when you're trying to navigate this, this journey of
- 5:05toxic relationships, toxic narcissistic personality
- 5:08disorder, and, you know, toxic space.
- 5:10So if you're in the same household as you share a kid,
- 5:13it's, it's, it's damn, it's extremely difficult.
- 5:15I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's extremely difficult to
- 5:17do. And it, it takes on an extra
- 5:20burden within the household. It could be an additional
- 5:24stressor within the household. Like there's a difference
- 5:27between giving like them giving you the silent treatment and you
- 5:31going completely no contact because you have to interact for
- 5:34the kids a lot of times, especially in the same
- 5:36household, right? Especially in the same
- 5:40household, you have to be able to interact with the kids.
- 5:42And like I said, you give the kids a let them see something
- 5:46different. You know what I mean?
- 5:47But if you don't have any kids, you live in the same household,
- 5:50I do think it could be possible to go no contact with them
- 5:52regardless of them trying to approach you and talk to you and
- 5:54have conversations. You can go to your room, you can
- 5:57sit on the couch, you can do whatever you want to do within
- 5:59the household. It doesn't mean you have to
- 6:00communicate or allow this person access to you or touch this
- 6:03person or clap cheats with this person.
- 6:04No, damn sure don't do that. But there is possible as long as
- 6:09you have your boundaries of it's possible if you don't have this
- 6:11super intertwined life. And also it's going to be
- 6:17extremely difficult because you know if you're dealing with a
- 6:19narcissist, right? A lot of times when they can see
- 6:23that you're avoiding them or not talking to them, a lot of times
- 6:26what they're going to do is try to intentionally trigger you.
- 6:30They're going to try to intentionally set you up,
- 6:33They're going to try to intentionally set you off.
- 6:36A lot of times they're going to try to get a reaction from you.
- 6:39So you have to be able to set boundaries and control your
- 6:41reactions toward this person because if they notice that
- 6:44you're not talking to them or you're not engaged with them,
- 6:46they can intentionally start to try to set you off on purpose to
- 6:50get their reaction because they want to.
- 6:51They want to see if they have some type of control to you.
- 6:54It's very difficult to do. You can set a goal.
- 6:56My my thoughts right here. Y'all don't beat yourself up if
- 7:00you can't go completely no contact while you're still
- 7:03living with somebody. It's, it's hard.
- 7:06It's a hard goal to have, I promise you.
- 7:08I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's an extremely hard goal
- 7:12to have to be able to try to go no contact with somebody that
- 7:15you're actually living with and parenting with.
- 7:18The goal should be low, low contact.
- 7:23If you can't go no contact, the goal should be as low contact as
- 7:28possible using like using different methods, like
- 7:33implementing different methods of communication techniques with
- 7:36this person, right? Using the BIFF method like low
- 7:39contact, you can use the BIFF method while you're still in the
- 7:42same household household with somebody if you still have to
- 7:46communicate with them. You know what BIFF method is, is
- 7:49BIFF brief, brief, informative, firm and friendly.
- 7:55You know it's a communication technique designed to help you
- 7:58deal with narcissistic people, right?
- 8:00Brief. Keep the conversation
- 8:02communication brief. Like informative brief, jam
- 8:07packed like like, you know, like what's what's a superfood?
- 8:09Like a like a avocado, They say, They say avocados are
- 8:12superfoods, right? Brief, informative, brief and
- 8:16jam packed, right. Firm, straight to the point,
- 8:20though, we're not beating around the Bush and friendly, a
- 8:22friendly tone, you know, and also a lot of a lot of us, I'll
- 8:26say us and me included, have problems controlling our tone
- 8:29when we, when we are talking and communicating with people that
- 8:32we don't necessarily like, right?
- 8:34We have a big issue of controlling our tone and our
- 8:37communication style with the with the people that's like with
- 8:42people that we don't like, the people we can't stand.
- 8:45But that's where this power comes in, right?
- 8:47Yeah, right. That's where this, this power
- 8:48and this technique comes in. Eventually you want to be able
- 8:51to go no contact, but you have to be able to build that no
- 8:55contact muscle like you're building up to it.
- 8:58Low contact, only necessary contact helps you because when
- 9:02the time comes when you do not live with this person, will they
- 9:05move out? You move out or whatever.
- 9:06You get separate households or y'all quit y'all, Y'all no
- 9:09longer work together. This person is no longer your
- 9:11boss or this person no longer work, no longer works for you.
- 9:14Whatever the situation is, it helps build you up to the
- 9:17ability to go no contact because if you're only communicating
- 9:21with them when necessary, right, then it helps you later on.
- 9:25We don't have to communicate with them at all.
- 9:27You can OK. And and like I say, when you
- 9:28don't have these ties that you feel like are binding you to
- 9:32this person, it could help you later on.
- 9:35You know, like I say, because you want to be able to build
- 9:38that no contact muscle by going low contact first, low contact
- 9:43while you're living together. If like, if at all possible,
- 9:48only necessary contact, right? But also it helps you build up
- 9:54that no contact muscle because like I said, you want to be, you
- 9:57want to control your emotions. You want to be able to get
- 10:00control of your triggers. You want to or the things that
- 10:02trigger you. You want to be able to control
- 10:04that type of stuff. Because at the end of the day,
- 10:07that helps benefit you. It helps, it helps you in the
- 10:10long run to be able to control your emotions, to be able to
- 10:13control your reactions, to be able to control a lot of the
- 10:15things that that you feel like might be affecting you in a
- 10:17negative way. It helps you out in the long run
- 10:21to be able to, you know, just to, to stand pat to standing, to
- 10:25be able to control those emotions, to control those
- 10:27reactions and whatnot. Because you want to go do low
- 10:30contact. Yeah, low, low contact,
- 10:32ignoring, like ignoring when you have to and things of that
- 10:36nature. You want to be able to do it
- 10:38like that because at the end of the day, that absolutely,
- 10:41absolutely, absolutely can't help you heal and it can't help
- 10:44you grow. Anyways, y'all, thank you all
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