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Sure. He can park it there. What do I care? (S4 E4 "Chicken or Beef?”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson,
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  Speaker 1: I am all in podcast. We are here with the
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  Speaker 1: intrepid team of Tara sud Daniel Romo, Amy Sugarman. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I just realized something. What did you just realize? Your home? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: See the see that I'm bom and I'm happy and
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm home baby, And oh my god, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. I cooked my son of
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  Speaker 1: an omelet with peppers and cheese and green onions in
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  Speaker 1: the whole deal. Yes, for anyone who's late to the party.
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  Speaker 1: Scott has been in Canada for like three months, four months,
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  Speaker 1: four months, oh my god, four solid months, and I
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  Speaker 1: was in a word, two words, losing it man. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys could tell right. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: were great, But so have you not been? Have you
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  Speaker 1: not slept in your own bed for four months? Four
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  Speaker 1: since June seven? Oh my god? And now I'm in
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  Speaker 1: my bed and I am sleeping like a two year
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  Speaker 1: old baby. I'm snoozing away. Oh man, thank you. It's
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  Speaker 1: good to be back in Cali. I gotta tell you,
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  Speaker 1: it's really good. Isn't that weird? Like you know, you
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  Speaker 1: you take it for granted, and then you leave for
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  Speaker 1: a while, you come back and you're like, wow, Cali man,
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  Speaker 1: love it. Danielle likes to travel. I don't like to
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  Speaker 1: try love it. I love to travel too, but not
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  Speaker 1: for four months at a time. That's tough. Days is good,
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  Speaker 1: and then I will be back in my bed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And also not for leisure, like you weren't you were
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  Speaker 1: going to work, you know, like, not for like I
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  Speaker 1: want to explore Europe. That's a different four months than
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  Speaker 1: I have to go somewhere in one spot and just work.
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  Speaker 1: You mean, like Rory and Lorela, I didn't around. But
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  Speaker 1: it's it's so great to be home. I thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It's thanks for having me back. I appreciate being allowed
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  Speaker 1: back into California because I know it's up to you guys, right,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we made it, but I had bigger people on
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  Speaker 1: my size and your home for this talk about this
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  Speaker 1: episode and let's I got a couple of questions. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: So so Daniel you want to you want to sit up? Signs? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and spign go ahead and Daniel with the
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  Speaker 1: floor is yours? Daniel Roma ladies and Gentlemen, I Got You,
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  Speaker 1: Season four, Episode four, Chicken or Beef Air Day, October
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  Speaker 1: two thousand three, Back and stars hollowed for the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: Rory runs into Dean, who awkwardly invites her to his
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  Speaker 1: wedding the next day. During his bachelor party that night,
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  Speaker 1: Dean stumbles into Luke Steiner and drunkenly confesses to missing Rory. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: while trying to get construction started on the new dragonflight
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  Speaker 1: in lor La and Suki are driven crazy by Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: who controls the perfit procedures for every building in town.
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  Speaker 1: So um, thank you, Danielle. Here's what I have to
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  Speaker 1: say this is, you know, I had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: questions about this episode as I was watching it. When
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  Speaker 1: I finished it, and so I went back and I
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  Speaker 1: looked at was there a new DP, because we went
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  Speaker 1: through a couple of different dps, directors of photographers, cinematography
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  Speaker 1: looked it kind of looked different. It looked a little flat.
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  Speaker 1: Something was off, and I didn't know what. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: quite put my finger on it. Whether it was script
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  Speaker 1: or acting or lighting or whatever it was. But it
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel like the show I had fallen in love
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  Speaker 1: with um. And I know Chris Long directed it and
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  Speaker 1: he's brilliant. Love Chris Long. Um, it's a new writer.
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  Speaker 1: Jane Eppenson S S sorry Jane Espenson, UM, who's a
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  Speaker 1: terrific writer. Um. But the opening for me, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell you annoyed like an alarm. Uh the thing that is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like telephones ringing in scenes bug me
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  Speaker 1: and uh, this alarm thing. And I just thought, boy,
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  Speaker 1: this is not you know, why are they annoying intentionally
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  Speaker 1: annoying the audience trying to make a joke. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think it was funny. Amy, how do you feel You're
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  Speaker 1: obviously you're gesticulating over there. So I'm always so happy
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  Speaker 1: that I am not alone. So, and I know we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get hateful comments, but I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: and I really am curious what you guys. Alexis or Rory,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which seemed weird for me? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what is this an imposter? What is going on? Did
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  Speaker 1: anyone else? I thought? Because my Alex freaking went off,
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  Speaker 1: I heard it, let it go? Did you just tell
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  Speaker 1: her to shut up? An? So I'm just gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to call her a because exactly, so okay, so I
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  Speaker 1: did nobody. I was like, what is going I was
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  Speaker 1: having it out of body experience watching this. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what was going on. It was very true. It
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  Speaker 1: was very true to this episode to us Amy Scott
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  Speaker 1: versus Tara and Danielle go. I don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: I have like a rationale. I just thought I was
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  Speaker 1: fully entertained the entire time. I loved it so much.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was so such a great episode. I
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  Speaker 1: loved all the Dean stuff. Maybe I'm just team Dean.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do like it. I like
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  Speaker 1: the episode. I just thought Rory was off or Rory
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  Speaker 1: do you think it was? Was it the haircut? Was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say it? Was it the haircut? She seems we
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  Speaker 1: have a college girl on our hands. Now she's going
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  Speaker 1: to have different hair, She's gonna have a different way.
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  Speaker 1: She walks different clothes like she acted like and it's
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  Speaker 1: and that's a different way. She doesn't really need her
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  Speaker 1: mom that much anymore, which has kind of broken the
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  Speaker 1: the narrative of the show somewhat. One of the main
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  Speaker 1: themes of the show is Laurela protecting her daughter, driving
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  Speaker 1: her daughter crazy, teaching her daughter, getting angry at her daughter,
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  Speaker 1: loving her daughter, all of that stuff. And she has
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  Speaker 1: long hair. Now she has short hair. She doesn't need
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  Speaker 1: her mom so much anymore. So what are we in
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  Speaker 1: for here now? Now? The complaint that was that that
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  Speaker 1: I lodged last episode. You can't take it out of
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  Speaker 1: starshow Now we're back in stars Hollow with all the
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  Speaker 1: characters right, the full rainbow, the full plethora of characters here.
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  Speaker 1: Yet it still seemed flat for some reason, with the
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  Speaker 1: short hair, the alarms, you know, it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: kind of annoying. Alarm was bad. You know why? I
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  Speaker 1: think so, mate, because I thought the second half of
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  Speaker 1: the episode it seemed more normal. Maybe it was the
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  Speaker 1: alarm because they had to sort of yell, and I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, this is and I love everything, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm like the yelling and it it was weird acting,
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, I wrote my notes, this is about
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  Speaker 1: ten songs short of a bad musical. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, why are they everybody? The acting
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  Speaker 1: was so stilted. It was over the top. Everybody's shouting, shouting, shouting,
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  Speaker 1: even after even after the alarm stopped. Okay, I need
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  Speaker 1: some backup Tara, why did you like it? I liked
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  Speaker 1: it because it's like everything that Scott said he wanted
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  Speaker 1: from Stars Hollow. You got that quirkiness back. You have
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  Speaker 1: the post it's on the ground to lead you to
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  Speaker 1: the way that's it's out of the alarm system. You
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  Speaker 1: have hurt with a new job. I've thought it was
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  Speaker 1: just a show, so I don't want to interrupt save
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  Speaker 1: your letters. The first scene. The first scene, but it's quirky,
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  Speaker 1: it's I get what you're saying. I honestly think if
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  Speaker 1: if it wasn't beeping so loud, I think you would
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  Speaker 1: have thought of it differently. Okay, Okay, I think if
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  Speaker 1: you take away the beeping of the alarm system, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been fine, because I wrote once the alarm
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  Speaker 1: was off, it seemed more normal. I literally thought A
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  Speaker 1: it was either a like was having a bad day
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  Speaker 1: or like they didn't write Rory. Something was so off
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  Speaker 1: for me with A Okay, I'm getting confused with the
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  Speaker 1: here because my thing will go off if I say
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  Speaker 1: it that. I just wasn't with the acting. Uh, even
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  Speaker 1: when we get the lanes and Zack and what's his
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  Speaker 1: first in there? And like even the Zach rant was
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  Speaker 1: well written, but I didn't think it was well acted.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought everybody was just had everybody just needed
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  Speaker 1: to calm down and just be a little more naturalistic
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  Speaker 1: and and and Alexis is, let's see if that trips it,
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  Speaker 1: uh like so so so I was, I was hope
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  Speaker 1: and Alexis usually provides that for me, the grounding, the
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  Speaker 1: naturalistic type of acting, and everybody else can and it
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  Speaker 1: was just it was just for me, everybody was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of shrieking and shrill and over the top. And
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  Speaker 1: I was just kind of taken aback by it. And
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  Speaker 1: it was and it was just it's just sort of
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  Speaker 1: the scenes just sort of late. They just sort of
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  Speaker 1: laid there that there was no real movement of camera movement.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was just something was off about it.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote new camera angles at laure Lize, like something
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  Speaker 1: was just it was almost like either one of two things,
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  Speaker 1: hashtag trying too hard like everyone or exactly it was
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  Speaker 1: the craft services bad that day and everyone had like
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  Speaker 1: diarrhea and they're trying to just get through it. Like
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  Speaker 1: so that's probably it anyway, the opening scene to have
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  Speaker 1: the clown pillow though it did, I wrote it down, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean, yeah, it didn't start out well for me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, And I even went through there what twenty
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  Speaker 1: two total scenes, and I remarked on all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so now we're so basically got better for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well it had to. I mean it started off, how
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  Speaker 1: how could it get worse? Oh? And like I love
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  Speaker 1: the show. So for everybody that writes like nasty crabs,
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  Speaker 1: like they can't all be home run, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just telling you what I thought, even like was acting weird,
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  Speaker 1: but even Dean wasn't acting. I'm touching Calmed down, calmed,
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  Speaker 1: I'm touching ding, I'm touching him up. Love Jared, Love Jared.
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  Speaker 1: But I think he got Gilmore somehow. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think he got Gilmore. And now he's like he's sort
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  Speaker 1: of ACTI ACTI acting, you know, showy acting instead of
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  Speaker 1: being his natural self. And it's the only time I
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  Speaker 1: will give that to you is when we had the
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  Speaker 1: drunk scene, I was like, yeah, he's never been drunk
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  Speaker 1: before in his entire life. That was not drunk acting.
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  Speaker 1: Outside of that, I just love him. I love him.
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  Speaker 1: I so agree that listen, that is acting drunk is
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  Speaker 1: one of the hardest things to do there for an actor,
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  Speaker 1: but he had to end so bad question. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 1: you act drunk, Yeah, is it easier just to be drunk? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that. Just take some shots. You can't
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  Speaker 1: do that. You can't do that because then he's what
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna do when they you know, because they're
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  Speaker 1: shooting scene for several hours? Right, So you guys Tori spelling.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't want to plug my other podcast, but
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: if you like nine O two one oh. So on
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  Speaker 1: the nine two one oh episode where where Donna Martin
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  Speaker 1: is super drunk and it's like a very famous episode,
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  Speaker 1: Tori said, she twirls in circles, you know, like spinning
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  Speaker 1: in circles, so that she's and I thought, pretty genius girl,
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  Speaker 1: right right, But remember the thing as an act you
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  Speaker 1: have to remember about being drunk portraying a drunk is
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  Speaker 1: that you're really when you're drunk, you're trying to act straight.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, you're trying to act normal, act normal. So
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  Speaker 1: that's and it really is one little misstep and one
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  Speaker 1: little tilt of the head, that's all it takes. People
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  Speaker 1: just overdo it. But what if Daniel made a great point,
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  Speaker 1: like what if what if she did. Yes, can you
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  Speaker 1: pointed out Jared started this show, he said how old
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  Speaker 1: in the interview he was like, seventeen seventeen eighteen, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's barely twenty one. If he was, maybe he's never
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  Speaker 1: been drunk. I don't know. I mean, let's get him
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  Speaker 1: back on out there, I thought. But here's what I
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  Speaker 1: liked about what he did with the drunk stuff is
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  Speaker 1: he went for it. He didn't he didn't shy away
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  Speaker 1: from it. I mean, he really committed to it. So
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it for me, what he did worked, okay,
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  Speaker 1: a lot okay. So let's say it's not polished, polished, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but but a lot of it did work for me.
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  Speaker 1: I got the idea that he I mean, he was
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  Speaker 1: a little indicatie, that's for sure. But I thought he
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  Speaker 1: did he committed to it, he didn't shy away from it,
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  Speaker 1: and he went for it full force, which is better,
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  Speaker 1: you know, than being half asked about it. So I
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  Speaker 1: commend him for that. Commend I want to commend you
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  Speaker 1: on the use of the word indicatie, because you that's
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  Speaker 1: a perfect word. It was too little, right, right, Instead
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  Speaker 1: of being drunk, you're acting drunk and you're indicating that
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  Speaker 1: you're drunk. But you know, look maybe look people, there
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  Speaker 1: are different drunks for different people. Maybe that's how he
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  Speaker 1: gets when he's really drunk. Who the hell knows, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you get drunk a certain way. We're all different, right,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that's how he does it. Right, So I
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  Speaker 1: thought he actually I thought, you know, I want to
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  Speaker 1: defend him because I actually thought he did a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good job for all the other actors. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was the best drunk right well, and he was special
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  Speaker 1: guest star. Did anyone notice that I did. I wrote
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  Speaker 1: it down. I was like, Oh, he's special guests are
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  Speaker 1: on this one. That means like that's like special, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like when you get that, you're you're cool. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: it is right, guys, Like it has the word in it.
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  Speaker 1: No I know, but that means you're cooler, like you're
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  Speaker 1: not just I guess something. Ed Herman gets special guest
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  Speaker 1: appearance and in the title credits, so he's special. And
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  Speaker 1: then Jared got special guest Star. So yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go with that was special. So the the alarm alarming
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  Speaker 1: stuff actually had a life to it. So we've so
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: now we're introduced to Kirk in a new job with
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  Speaker 1: kind of a full meal of an episode because he's
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  Speaker 1: in three or four scenes, he's dressed up in that
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  Speaker 1: universe's looking good, he's looking sharp. You know this was
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  Speaker 1: his fault, you know, his screw up. Um, but it's
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  Speaker 1: like here, you know, Kirk is finally given the stage
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  Speaker 1: in an underwhelming um you know, kind of uh a
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  Speaker 1: a disguise that is perpetually unfunny. In my opinion, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think was my favorite? I hate to
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  Speaker 1: say it, Yeah, it wasn't. The episode was getting better
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  Speaker 1: at that point, like as it went on, but I
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  Speaker 1: just was like, you know what the problem with the
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: show is when this show files fires and all silsor
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  Speaker 1: the bar is so high, how are you going to
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  Speaker 1: maintain that? That's the problem with with with being so
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  Speaker 1: great at so many things in certain episodes, because you're
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: great at comedy, you're great at the drama, you're great
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: at the dramedy, You're great at all this stuff. You're
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can even get slapsticky at times. And
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  Speaker 1: when all of that works, and it has worked several
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  Speaker 1: times in this show and we've all opined about it,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: it's it doesn't get better than this. Right, So when
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  Speaker 1: you miss, when you miss that markets, it's tough, right,
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  Speaker 1: and even when it's just a centimeter off, like jarred
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  Speaker 1: by it. Let me ask you this, Why did you
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  Speaker 1: think Scott and Tara of the wedding in the gazebo?
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  Speaker 1: I did not recall that, do you guys know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying? The wedding you mean Dean and uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that they're setting it up and there are the ceremonies
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  Speaker 1: like in the gazebo. No, no, it was in the church.
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  Speaker 1: They came out of the church. Oh. Just the party.
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  Speaker 1: The party. It was the party the night before. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was the pre It wasn't the Yeah, that's why
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  Speaker 1: she goes to Lane and she's like, Lane, why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you tell me? Which? I agree, Lane isn't being a
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  Speaker 1: really great friend. If you're talking about somebody that's off,
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  Speaker 1: it's Lane. Lane. I would if if if I were Lane,
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  Speaker 1: the second I found out, I would call Rory like,
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  Speaker 1: guess what this is happening? Don't come here this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Like to Lane's point, she told Rory, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know you were coming home this weekend. Why isn't
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  Speaker 1: Rory saying telling Lane I'm home. That is a good point.
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  Speaker 1: Can we debate this for a second. Yeah, I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to know all y'all's perspectives if Lane really should have
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  Speaker 1: told Rory. I'm in this weird similar predicament where my
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  Speaker 1: friends sort of had a crush on a guy and
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  Speaker 1: then I found out he's dating someone, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not going to say anything because I just hope she
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  Speaker 1: forgot she has a crush on him. So you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Maybe I don't agree. I actually think that,
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  Speaker 1: like if it were me, i'd want to know, like
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  Speaker 1: I want to know when they're getting married, just because
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like it's kind of worse if
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  Speaker 1: you find out after the fact and knowing that your
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  Speaker 1: friend knew the whole time and wasn't telling you. Because Lane,
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  Speaker 1: Lane didn't say she didn't know. She just said I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think you'd be home this weekend. But so I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: totally agree with you, Tara, But I'm kind of like
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if like Lane and Rory are okay right now,
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  Speaker 1: Like maybe kind of Rory has I think I think
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  Speaker 1: they're okay. I think they're just in different parts of
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  Speaker 1: their lives, like Rory's away college and Lane's still home
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  Speaker 1: and she has bands, like, you know, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: just it happens with friendships. To make that phone call though,
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  Speaker 1: where Lane calls Rory and goes, hey, just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: like your ex boyfriend that you you much loved is
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  Speaker 1: getting married to a ramdo girl from your high school
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  Speaker 1: but time out ouch Rory screwed it up, so no
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  Speaker 1: sympathy there, Like, but Lane should have said something, but
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's not. It's not like you're calling
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: for that purpose. Like I feel like girlfriends just gossip
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to each other, like, oh my god, guess what you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Like it's definitely found out when my ex got engaged,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like you know, like and I haven't seen this person.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: My high school boyfriend got engaged and literally my friend
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: text me, oh my god. It's more like it's more
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of like a gossipy thing than like warning totally. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: don't know if it is. When you're that it's like
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: your first true love and it was oh, I don't know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: but she had she had Jess after the fact, so
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it's not like it was like fresh off the relation.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I mean kind of but not really well, and there's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: so much like her it was only like four minutes
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: ago that her boyfriend punched her ex boyfriend. Like, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, Scott, what do you think when you have
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: told old it's just hard to believe that she didn't
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: find out in some way didn't Right, It's there's it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: such a small town that everybody's so connected, and it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: not like she cut everybody off. She just went twenty
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: minutes away. You know, she's coming home on weekend. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, what you know, Well, I'm jumping ahead, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: do you think Luke needs to tell Laurel or Rory
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: about what Dean said? You know, I I part, I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: really liked Luke in this episode because he really was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the rock in this you know, and he didn't he
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: didn't meddle, he didn't get you know, he didn't poke
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: his nose in where it didn't belong, except telling Rory, like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: don't just he's trying to spare fields, right, don't go
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to the wedding. You just don't want to go to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the wedding because what what he thought was going to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: happen was you know, drunk Dean saying I messed up,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I miss Rory. You know, Oh my god, I'm so
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. But I liked everything. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: liked that he just minded his own business. He listened,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna, you know, uh be a stone and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: anybody's shoe and a busy body and coming up and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: saying well and trying trying to send its like in
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: his mind, these are all kids. They made their choices,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, let the let the chips fall of gossip. Yes,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: he's the opposite of that. I also thought it was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: very uh important to note that Rory just took Luke
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: at his word. She didn't. She sort of like h
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: but then he said don't go, and so she's like, okay.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I think it shows how much he cares for her.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted to protect how much she respects him right right,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and that when I think she tells Lorl like, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Luke said don't go, that, Lorl doesn't really question it either.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, all right, if he said don't go, we're
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not going. Yeah, WHOA. I just don't know why neither
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of them are like interrogating a little bit more like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, why what do you know?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But they're just like okay, moving on, okay, quick note
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: before we keep going. Did you guys notice that they
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: say Dave moved to California? Boy? Did I notice? Yeah?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so sad California. He moved to the o C. Baby,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And I actually think it would have been funny if
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: they actually said he moved to Orange County. I think
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: California was cheeky enough. I wouldn't mind. I thought it
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was funny when his fandmates were like, oh, no, true
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: rocker goes to college, and then Rory just starts listing
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: off all like the famous to college like Mick Jagger,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, that's hilarious. Can I throw
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: one more flag on the play? Didn't anybody think it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: was weird that Lane nor Deane I don't know if
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: that's the right use of the word, nor noticed her hair.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Either of them commented on her. I think did. Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Dean did, in his drunken slumber, commented on You're right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He didn't commented to her, but he said it in
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: her new hair something all drunkie. He didn't know, Oh
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: my god, you got your haircut. That was so weird. Well,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: what we're finding out now is the best thing about
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that band, which is Dave Regolski is gone, like darn,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: darn it, exclamation point, no more Dave Regolski, no more
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Adam Brody and we how much did we enjoy? And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this is a big piece of the show, you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: it's something we really look forward to. It's gone. Another
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: piece of the show we really look forward to his
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: mother daughter and you know, and now that's kind of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: gone too. So it's like it's a different show. Now,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: it's a different parenting, it's a different you know, she's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: filling that empty and she's got an empty nest. What
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: is she going to do? She's weekend mom and now
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: she's doing her her in and is the in stuff
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that compelling? Is the suki Michelle? You know millef. It's like, yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: what's going on? These were these people were tight. Now
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: he's being arrogant and distant, feeling all butt hurt because
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: he wasn't asked right away to be that he wasn't
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: put on retainer. Have a weird question, Yes, this is
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: season four, episode four? Yes? Does it not seem like
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: this is the episode they all came back from summer break,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Like the haircut Michelle looks different. It's like, are you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: sure you didn't film the first three last year, like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it's all I was thinking that, But then I also
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: remember that last week like school hadn't really started, it
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: had just started, like I think we started right before
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: summer ended because she had to move into her dorm.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So when I'm saying, like in I r L in
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: real life, are we sure they didn't film those three
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: episodes at the back end, which I know you didn't,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But like, why did Alexis get her haircut? Oh God,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: why did Alexis get her haircut? Now? Wouldn't you have
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: thought she got it like for episode one of this season?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And why does Michelle look weird? Like what's going on?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Let's see this is demonstrating. Okay, let's take some of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: our more famous shows. Now the examples I'm going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: give our sitcoms. But still I think it's a Germaine
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: uh Seinfeld mhm, cheers. Friends. Take these people out of
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: those sets and out of those situations, those dynamics, those
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: friendships and relationships, what have you? You're lost, right, there
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: are too many Gilmore characters out of their elements, out
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of their sets, were weird fake w Yes, it's it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: scrambling the brains of Gilmore. Are fans like what's going on? Consistency?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Consistency matters in character, right, It's like, can you see Luke,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you know, working at Bergdorf Goodman in New York City,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you know, in a suit like what happened Tara Danielle?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Did you guys not think Michelle seemed to tad off?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: He seemed off to me, But I felt like that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: was part of the script because he was at this
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: new place like they, and he's trying to be more
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: push you know, like elevated, like the new place he's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: working at, when the reality is who he really is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: is you know what the independence in was, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: so he he's like for me, yeah, of course he
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: felt off. Like even his hair was like a little
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: bit different and those and like and even the um,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the headset, like all that stuff was very
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like Tash and in modern and forward and you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like that's why at the end when we cut to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the dragon fly and they're taking the cute photo, he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: looks like he looks more like himself again. And I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: think I think a good show, a good show makes
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a contract with its audience, and that contract is we
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: will not betray you. We will. We will keep these
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: characters in the setting in which you fall in love
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with them because we want you to keep coming back
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: for more and more. We want you to be comfortable
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: now whatever happens between the characters in those familiar settings,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think is you know, great, that's the unpredictable nature,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But you cannot ask an audience to work this hard.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Yes, I agree with what you're saying.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: This episode. I actually find Rory at Yale very comfortable
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and real to me, and I know I do not.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's too soon for me. I know what
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the future hold, and I literally love the Yale stuff
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that's coming. I'm at because I'm also a team logan,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: so whatever, but this episode it's all wonky to me.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I also thought that, um, like for Michelle, I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: he didn't want to show Laura line Suki that like
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he he didn't want to beg to come back, because
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I get that, like he wanted to be like, look,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I have this new job, I'm doing great, but deep
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: down he wanted that askally. He wanted La to say no, Michelle,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I need you at the Dragonfly in and then as
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: soon as that that kind of switched because at first
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I think he felt rejected and left behind, so he
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was like, I am doing good in my new job
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: in YadA YadA, and then woult Okay, but wait a minute, okay, here,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: here's here's what I'm talking about. One of the weirdest
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: scenes I've ever seen on this show, one of the strangest, oddest, weirdest,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the most out of context scenes I've ever seen, is
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the conversation in Lauraized kitchen with Suki Laura line, Suki
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know some of uh Michelle's more objectionable characteristics.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Do we really like him that well? He is kind
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of obnoxious, I mean, just like Judge, Judge, e judge.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And then they figured it's like what is going there.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It's like they're tearing down the character before our very eyes,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: instead of instead of allowing the audience to enjoy these
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: people in the setting in which you're used to enjoying
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: them in. I thought it was bizarre. It was it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a show that is turning on itself, turning too inward
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and getting too analytical. And because he's like one of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: their closest friends, all of a sudden he's gone, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and everybody and everybody's got hurt feelings and they didn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: do the right thing. That it just it just leads
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like that bad choice leads to more bad choices and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: more bad scenes. Okay, first of all, you nailed it,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: because the only thing weirder than them ripping on Michelle
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: was the odd scene in the fake w as I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: call because the lighting was so weird. It almost looked
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like I was like, is this the show? Did nobody
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: have that? I was like, is this a commercial? What
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: is this? Like? It was like weird purplely it was
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: just that didn't even where were we I don't know why.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I was okay with it, Like, I was totally okay
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: with it. I liked it. I liked the whole It
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: was sacrilege. It was sacrilege. You were taking one of
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the most beloved characters of that series and putting him in,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you know, an outpost somewhere that completely unrecognizable as a
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: character and a completely unfamiliar setting. I think that sacrilege.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But just but the payoff is he's now part of
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: yes by in you know what I mean, So like, yeah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: he had to go there for two minutes of an episode,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: but he's back. True. I mean, I think they could
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: have just said he was just like hanging out at
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: home and here he's ready to work again. I don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: know Michelle though. Michelle is not going to hang out
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at home. He's gonna like try to rub it in
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: your face that he's doing okay, So why why Why
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is it Michelle part of the team trying to find
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: find money or supporting all of this, like just so
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that they don't have any money to pay him right now?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: What's weird is as a whole, I liked this episode,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: but as we're breaking it down, I'm like, yeah he did.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: No one think it was weird that Dean invited his
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: ex girlfriend to his wedding without consulting Lindsay, Yeah, yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: not only that, but the day before m hm m hm,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna want to see Rory. They're like, oh,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: she kind of like yeah, I was more shocked that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: she was going to go if. I don't know what
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was weird or I felt like once he invited her
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: she had Yeah, she didn't kind of fall into that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: like I guess I have to it. It was better
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: she didn't. And then I wrote, Rory seems weird again,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: It's weird well, I feel like, besides the first scene,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I think it is weird to have your ex, your
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: first love, to get married and know all about it. Yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: she's she. I mean, I don't know, I'm maybe I'm
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: just trying to relate to her. But the first time,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and as far as we know, this is her first
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: time coming home after you know, while going away for
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: college is weird. It's not like it's not normal. You're like, whoa,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I am back in my hometown, even though it hasn't
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: been a year she's been away or whatever, but that
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: first time coming home from college is weird. Well, the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: community certainly had that effect on the entire show, that's
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: for sure. And you know the mail, the mail joke,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like the people keep delivering the mail to the wrong
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: people and they get it to town hall and everybody's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: got It's like what they kept the town meeting. They
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: kept doing the the alarm joke and the mail joke,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and it's like, is this ever gonna end? I don't
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: even think Luke was at the town meeting. Miss Patty
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: came into Luke's to deliver mail. Well, yeah, how are
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you using these characters? I mean, Liz Torres is a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: brilliant comedic actress. Can you just give her something that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: has to do with the dance studio or something? Now
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: she's a male person. I don't know, it's just I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: didn't like it. And okay, oh my god, tailor shop.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Can we go into the tailor shop. That's what I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: want to talk about next, is like Taylor's being such
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: an that's Taylor. Now at least I thought, okay, now
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: he's negotiating, he wants something. I okay, Now I'm starting
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to hook into this episode a little bit, you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: because I love Taylor and she's in there and it's like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: what's happening and what's with these rules? And you know
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: she did almost forget to pay. Yeah, and it's Monday,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: they're coming Monday, and the inspectors and it's a chocolate
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: chocolate chocolate. I mean, yeah, you're right, what dumbass? You know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the Historical Preservation Society has a large say in what
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: goes on in any historical historic This was more this,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: You're right, this was more manufactured. Gilmore right. Finally Gilmore
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: issue right, something that's right. But it's like, at least
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: so at least Taylor's in there negotiating with her, and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: we've got somewhat of a humorous scene. Um town home meeting. Uh,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that happiest doughnut did crack me. That's the first that's
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the first time I left. But it did seem like
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: the high school play I have written down here. This
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: town meeting seems like the high school play. I also
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: thought how inappropriate that they someone called out Taylor's magazine,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: girly magazine. These are lifestyle magazine. Okay, so okay, wow,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? This is injected into the show.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Girl? Girly magazines for Taylor? And
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that's supposed to be funny. I thought it was funny.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I I thought it was weird. We were witnessing character
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: destruction on a scale I have never seen this show do.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like just tear tear down Michelle,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: tear down Taylor. You know, it's just like Jesus. And
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: then someone said can I slap him? What was that part?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, whoa? Somebody wanted to slap Taylor?
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: It was God, Yes, I think I wrote down the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: line someone said can I slap him? I think it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: was when the three of them Michelle said it I think. Oh.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is just right right right, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I yeah, you know, Gypsy was involved in the mail
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, she was delivering mail at the town
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hall meeting, and I just wrote, this is really weird.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I was happy that Gypsy back though, because we hadn't
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: seen her in a while, and so, you know, it
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: just for me, none of the jokes and none of
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the insults worked at all. It was just so uninteresting
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and it just was It was hard to sit through it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: It really was because I didn't recognize it. Um, but
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: did you recognize Schmidt? Yes, Max Schenel Schmidt. That was
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I literally saw the scene and I was like, Max Greenfield. Okay,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So there's this show called New Girl starring Zoey Deschanelle
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and an actor named Max Greenfield. Is that right, Daniel, Yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And he played this very amazing character, Schmidt. And he's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: at the bachelor party. He's one of those dudes that
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: comes into your diner. What's so funny is right now
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: he's like going viral on TikTok because his daughter made
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: him do it TikTok dance. So like the timing of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: it all was very funny too. I was like, hey,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I just saw TikTok. Yeah, so all those guys come
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: into your diner. One of them Schmidt like, what did
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you all think about the bachelor party? And it was
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: phase one, which I wanted to know what Phase two was,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: just saying strippers strippers and like, oh gosh, Scott, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: actually thought it was. I will agree that you were
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: very good in this episode. And I'm not just blowing
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: smoke because you're here. Luke seemed very Luke, like he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't off well no, and I think it was especially
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: m poignant because he didn't want to be involved in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the proceedings, and uh, I thought I was watching the episode,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I felt the same. But if you guys, it was
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: kind of the perfect antidote finally identified with somebody you
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: called it. You're like, the bachelor Party's done. Well. Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought was really cool is that Luke
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: literally saved Dean from himself that night, Like because Dean
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: was starting to mumble and say things about Rory at
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the diner in front of all his friends, and only
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Luke was the one that caught on and he was like, oh, buddy,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let this happen to you. Literally pulled
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: him away and was like, all right, guys like parties
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: over Luca father figuring, Yeah, he took care of took
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: care of the poor Dean. And Dean said, why didn't
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: she love me? And you guys' smart and so pretty?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, he does say the prettiest hair, Why
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: didn't she love me? What do you guys? I think
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: the guy needs to like see a therapist. I mean
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it's like how much abuse can he take from one person?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, he spilled his guts out, he builds her car,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: he loves her purely, and he's dumped, dumped, dumped, dumped dumped.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You're too You're not smart enough, you're not good enough.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: He goes to the Gilmore House for dinner. Dump dump
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: dumped on dump dum dump dumps. Okay, he gets the message.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: He goes away. Fine, what the hell you know? This
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is what young people do. They constantly come back for
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: more abuse. It's like, get away from her, man, she
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't want you, she doesn't know what she wants. She's
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: too young. Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: if if she doesn't want him. I think she's she's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: too young, and it's like let her live her life
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and she's just not ready. She's just not ready to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: get married. She's got bigger fish to fry. Anyone think
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: it's a good idea for Dean to be getting married. No, No,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: not at all. Um, well apparently obviously not in his
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: current state of his heart is with Rory. You know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Lindsay's going to get the short end of that stick,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you know, So no, unintended, Yeah he should not. Like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: if you guys lived in stars Hollow, here's the question
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and you're at the wedding and they say, does anyone object?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think that people. I don't think people know it,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: like know the extent of why it's a bad idea,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: outside of probably Luke at this point, Like I think
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: everyone's just kind of like like they might just say, like, oh,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: they're young, but I think that's all they really know. Yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: like Lucas kind of the one that has the information
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: right now that this is a bad idea there. You know, listen,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: there's one thing that I know, Um, adults cannot stop
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: young passion. It will go in the direction that it's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: going to go in, and nobody can stop it if
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it's that strong. You know, he's just he's a young guy.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: He wants to be married, he wants to settle down,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he wants to have children, he wants to have a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: real life. He thought it was going to be you know, Rory,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: it's you know, she didn't want didn't want any part
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: of it. So you know, it's just that's okay, That's
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: how it works out sometimes, Danielle, what a future because
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you don't know, do you see for Dean and Lindsay.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they're going to make it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: At some point they're going to break up, but TBD
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: any other premonitions. That's my premonition is that Rory Lindsay
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: is going to get jealous of something that Rory and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Dean do, like whether they hang out or whatever, and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: then that's gonna be the cause of them to go there.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, this show really does not
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: do weddings very well, do they. Jesus, they're botching everything.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It's a Sunday that's the worst. That's the worst of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the worst day for a way. Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: can we have a nice wedding and everybody's in love? Like?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with these people? Right? Because they bring their
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a game for like the town? Why why are they
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: botching weddings all the time? I don't get it. What
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: was it? Wasn't there? There was a wedding earlier? Was
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: it was it Christopher's wedding or who who got married? No,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: there was that beautiful wedding at the who wasn't remember
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that woman? Remember that woman, that sort of overbearing woman
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: with the annoying daughter who was getting Yeah, yeah, but no,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the main characters. But what didn't David?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Who's wedding was? It was? Was Mori kisses Jack? I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: thought it wasn't that Christopher and Sherry? Who was it? Suki?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Was it Suki's wedding to Ski? It was Suki's wedding,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: She's wedding to Jacks. So they didn't botch that one up.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't in the town. It was at the inn.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It was at the end, and it was a nice wedding.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Have Laurel, I plan your wedding right, don't do it
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: in the in the town the professional. Okay, So they
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: got a wedding, they got a decent one. So now
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we go to the inn and we go through this
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: whole to do with Suki and Michelle are there with
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Loralai and and Taylor's inspecting, and that's when we learned, Aha,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: it's really about his ice cream truck. I just love
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that he never actually asked Luke like he he played
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: it all up as if like Luke is gonna say that.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Luke would have said no because it's a Taylor. But
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like when he's like when Luke was like sorry to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: be and he's like, yeah, that's fine, I was like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: oh my god. Really, he goes, sure, what do I h?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Oh good? And that's when she realizes the thing I've
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: realized in life. It's about scratching backs and kissing things. Yeah. Yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: big monologue in the diner. That was a lot of
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that's a word salad coming out, you know. Um, okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: so where are we now? Well, so now is really
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: where we have Luke, you know, uh goes to talk
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: to Dean. So right after we find out about the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: ice cream truck is when Luke makes them a little
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: hangover during his hangover and they have sort of a talk. Right.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite scene. That's one of my favorite
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Luke scenes. And I wrote Luke is a badass, you know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: he just because he just because he just stared at
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the guy and he's like, you know, he's not going
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to offer any real opinion and he's just gonna all right,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: this kid is in a crisis, and there's you know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not a therapist. I can just listen to him
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: and he's there's nothing I can do about it anyway,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: because I think he learned that lesson from dealing with Jess,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: so like, you can do your best and they're just
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do what they want anyway. Right. Well, God, that's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: such a really something I want to talk about is
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: that Luke is a man of few words, but I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: think sometimes that's the right way to He's kind of going,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing you this drink, you know what, I'm sort
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: of saying, do you with my face? And he does
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: choose to go to Rory and say don't go her,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: he will intervene, sure, spare her feelings, right because what
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: what what was he actually trying to prevent her from seeing,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: like Dean saying like like leaving leaving Lindsay at the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: altar and just not showing up. What was he trying
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to question? What was he trying to prevent Rory from seeing?
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: But who's he saving Is he saving Rory or Dean?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Because I felt it more as if he was saving Dean.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I was about saying thing Dean is the one that's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: drunkenly mumbling these things at the diner and saying how
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: much he misses are it's not Rory doing that, so like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, I felt like he was. Also,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: so you're thinking, like, hey, Rory, butt out, don't mess
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: this kid up. I's vulnerable. I think Luke is like
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: your presence him, Yeah, you're going to mess him up
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: if he goes. But also like Rory, like, but I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: think he the parties involved for you not to go, yes,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: because I think Luke knows Rory doesn't want Dean right
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: now in that way, right, So he's saying it's only
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: going to cause everybody pain and heartache if you imagine
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: she goes, and then Dean's like, you're the one I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: love and then Rory has to tell him again, I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: don't love you. So I feel like Luke is sort
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of has everybody's best interests at heart. It's a it's
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: a wedding, and they're treating it like it's a funeral,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like avoid it, don't go you'll be ripped apart. It's awful,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you know, But I feel like, but I feel like
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: he kind of like saved all that drama that would
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: come if she went like, just don't go, don't have conflict,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: like stay out of it. So, in other words, the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: best part of what Gilmour could be Luke saved us
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: from good We don't get now we don't get to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: see anything. I didn't. It's like, what was the point
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: because I would have loved to see that. I would
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: have it too. There's your episode, Hello, Danielle. What we're
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say? I was gonna say I did feel a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: runaway groom scene coming coming, and I was like, oh,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. And then obviously Luke
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: saved the day. But I don't know, guys, I liked
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: how that played out, though, well. I liked that they
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: just totally for me, it became more about their relationship
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: with Luke. Rory and Laurel lies because he said don't go.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And even when Rory tells Laurea lies, she says, Luke
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: said don't go. He seems serious, and she says he
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: seems serious, and so they don't. We are missing the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: fact that Luke tried calling she did a bunch of times,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and she did not answer her phone or anything. Oh yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that's right, So it could have been he could have
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: needed to tell Laura Lee. Yeah yeah, which is like
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: very funny because I mean, well, I guess also in
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that time, like everyone had cell phones. But I don't
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: think it's like we weren't actively texting like we do now.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: But I thought it more of like she isn't a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: really busy time with the end, so I didn't really
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: falter in that. But also it was very odd that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: no one could get a hold of her, agree, but
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: was She's out at the end dealing with that meeting,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: so maybe she's like trying to focus on that. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: want to I want to interject here. Um this is
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take us back to scene thirteen because this
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: is my favorite line of the entire show. Um, when
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Laura la I was chasing Taylor down the street after
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the town hall meeting and cornered him and he said,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: my god, Laura, all you scared me. I almost blew
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: my emergency whistle. Okay. I love that. It's like, yeah, alright,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: finally I love that line too, but not to be
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a topper to me when she says, what was his
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: body language? Like? Tall? Are we saying? Best lines? Minds
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: from Dean when he goes the two of you are
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: definitely beef. It's not like resemble beef for anything, though.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I always like the Kirk lines. And he was like,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: my family tree dates back to that twenty sorry twelveth
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: century night. And then Lorel I was like wow, and
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, like Ted Knight like as if
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: like sorry, that one fell flat for me. I just
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: love Kirk's lines. I think that's why Ted Night. Did
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: he did he really say that? I think I wrote
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: down to Did he really just say that? Not to Night? Okay? Um,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: so do you have any inside things Scott or should
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: we name like out of one out of ten beef
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: at a wedding? I do have some stuff hang on
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: my crack team just an emergency emailed me. Okay, good
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: talk amongst yourself. All right, here we go a few
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: things for this episode. At one minute, clown Pillow does
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: show up, So Daniel nice grab on that nice catch? Uh.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: One of Dean's batchelor party friends is played by Max Greenfeld.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: We nice catch again, um, and that was he was
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: in A New Girl ran for seven season on Fox
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: at eighteen thirty two minutes and eighteen seconds. For a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: very quick second, when the scene at the Dragonfly opens,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: you can see four windows on the second story. But
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: back in season one, when Rachel and Laurel I went
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: to look at the property, there were only three windows
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: on the second floor. And and my team did provide
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: photo evidence. So we're going to be going, you know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: we might dress yea, let's get that, we might haul
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: people into court. Uh uh and uh here's a discussion topic.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Do you think you never realized that when he spent
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the night at Luke's he slept in Jess's bed talk
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: about a bomb. I'm so happy you brought that up,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: because it was one thing I thought when I was
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: watching but didn't write it down. I was like, this
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: is just as turf, Like, is it weird that he's here?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's good. That's really good. What else
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: do we want to discuss with this episode? Do you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: want to just give it to like how many plates
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of beef? And are you a chicken or beef or
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: vegetarian option? Tara, go ahead, how many plates of beef?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And then are you chicken beef for vegetarian? I liked it.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give it seven chicken plates. Yeah, I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: a chicken girl. I'm a chicken girl too, and I'm
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: gonna give it seven and a half chicken plates. I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: am going to go for the beef. I love chicken.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I'll even take a vegetarian option, but just in this case,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I'm actually giving it seven beef plates, even though I
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: had a lot of criticism of it. Seven beef plates. Um,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it both. I'm gonna do chicken and
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: beef because I love both, and I do love the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: vegetarian option as well, so maybe I'll do all three.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately that's just gonna be one plate each, so
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be three three plates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: this one. I thought were all were gonna like this
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: before you guys jumped off and y'all, I were like, well,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: this is a good one. I know, I really really
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But hey, we all have different lenses and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that's what makes this fun. Yep. Just you just never know,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you know, all right, everybody, I hope I hope you
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: enjoyed this, uh, this dumpster fire of an episode. Uh,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: at least are our analysis of it. Uh And uh,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I think we come. We split it right down and
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: split the baby right down the middle to pro con
• 53:30
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• 53:35
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• 53:39
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• 53:50
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• 53:52
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• 53:56
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• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you know I love this show probably more than most people. Um.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I was on it. Uh. I put, you know, thousands
• 54:12
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• 54:16
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• 54:18
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• 54:20
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• 54:23
  Speaker 1: that the when this show gets it right, there's nothing
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that can touch it. There's just nothing that can touch it.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm I so want to see those episodes every week,
• 54:33
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• 54:36
  Speaker 1: the heights that this show has achieved and can achieve
• 54:40
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• 54:43
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• 54:45
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• 54:48
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• 54:50
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• 54:53
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• 54:56
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• 54:59
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• 55:03
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• 55:05
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• 55:10
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• 55:12
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• 55:20
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• 55:23
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• 55:25
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