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The human toll of fraud in Minnesota’s support programs · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Is anyone else tired of Minnesota like I am?
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  It's beautiful there.
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  I've been there.
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  A lot of lakes there, really pretty.
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  For the most part, people are really, really nice in Minnesota, but I'm sick of it.
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  From George Floyd to what happened on Wednesday, to what is happening with all the fraud in Minnesota?
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  I'm done with that state.
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  Let's give them to Canada, as far as I'm concerned.
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  I'm Booker Scott, and this is The Truth Be Told on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  37-year-old Renee Good.
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  She was killed Wednesday in that terrible traffic situation that happened in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and it happened with ICE agents.
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  Apparently she was blocking traffic.
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  An ICE agent went to in front of her car.
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  And it's really hard to tell exactly what happened.
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  There are different views, different angles of the video, but it appears that that ICE agent was in front of her car, and two other agents got out of their car trying to get her out of the way.
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  There is something that exists among protesters of ice where they block traffic where IC is trying to come through.
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  Was she that?
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  Was she being paid?
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  Was she an instigator?
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  We don't know a hundred percent yet.
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  It is, however, being thrown out there that this happened.
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  We'll have to wait and see, I think, to fully get the investigation.
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  Donald Trump says it was self-defense when the ICE agent pulled the gun and pulled the trigger multiple times, killing Renee Good, 37, a mother of three, who, by the way, in her bio on social media, she goes by she her.
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  And she is living with her female partner in Minneapolis, not with her three children.
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  But like I said, we should probably just let that dust settle and let the investigators figure it out.
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  There is a federal law against doing what she is doing and others are doing, and they are doing this in a coordinated fashion.
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  I'm not saying that 37-year-old Renee Good is part of that yet.
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  We'll let them determine what she was doing there, as I said.
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  However, it looks like in the video that the two officers they got out of an ice vehicle with ice uh badges on their their uniform, they were walking over to her, telling her to get out of the way.
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  There was already one ICE officer in front.
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  The one ICE officer in front is the one that actually did the shooting.
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  And it's really hard to tell.
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  It looks like her car hit him and he started firing.
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  Donald Trump, as I said, said it was self-defense.
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  Meanwhile, in Minneapolis, you have the mayor, Mayor Fry there, who has uh quite an interesting past.
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  He had some very harsh words to say about this, and so did Governor Tim Walls.
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  Both of them are trying to say that this is what Donald Trump wants.
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  He wants the left to get riled up like they were in the 2020 summer of love in George Floyd's death.
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  That kind of has that feeling, doesn't it?
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  Fortunately, it doesn't look like the left is doing what they did that time, maybe because it's winter.
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  You can't have a winter of love in Minneapolis when it's snow on the ground and it's 10 degrees.
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  Much less likely to have a bunch of people going out and rioting and stealing big screen televisions from Target, which is what happened in the summer of love in 2020.
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  What big screen TVs have to do with uh social justice?
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  I have no idea, but that's what happens in riots.
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  Let's go to Mayor Fry and hear what he had to say in the aftermath of what happened Wednesday afternoon with 37-year-old Renee Good.
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  There were dozens, if not hundreds of ICE and federal officers that were there at the time.
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  It's their job.
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  Having them there was only causing more chaos.
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  Having them there was only making a difficult situation even more problematic, and one that, yes, they created themselves.
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  There's little I can say again that'll make this situation better.
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  One they created themselves, he says.
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  He's talking about ICE.
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  They are there, as you know, the Department of Homeland Security surged there in Minneapolis this week.
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  They have two thousand agents.
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  They're there to get illegal immigrants out of the city.
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  Christy Gnome, DHS director, she mentioned that they had arrested hundreds, most of them are rapists and murderers.
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  That was what she said on Wednesday morning.
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  And now we have the mayor of Minneapolis.
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  He is saying that uh they were there causing the problem.
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  He wanted them out of the way in the aftermath of this, and he brought in more Minneapolis police people.
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  But I do have a message for our community.
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  This is where it gets good.
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  And I have a message for ice.
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  To ICE, get the f out of Minneapolis.
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  Whoa.
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  We do not want you here.
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  Your stated reason for being in this city is to create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly the opposite.
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  So let's go back to the video that I talked about.
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  You can't see the video, but again, you had two ice agents get out of a vehicle, go over to her vehicle.
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  Already in front of her vehicle was an ICE agent.
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  The agents that got out of the car, I heard them say, get out, get out, get out of the vehicle.
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  They said it multiple times.
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  I actually may have the audio here.
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  I'll play it for you.
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  If she had only complied, 37-year-old Renee Good, she would still be alive today.
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  And the same could be said for George Floyd back in 2020.
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  If he hadn't taken enough fentanyl to kill the Third Army, which the medical examiner said he did.
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  But we'll never know if the fentanyl overdose would have killed him or not because he did not comply to begin with.
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  George Floyd was put into the back of a police car, and he escaped momentarily, and that's when Derek Chauvin put his knee on his neck, and he eventually did die.
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  He died uh on the way to the hospital.
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  And everything else about the summer of love, you already know.
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  But again, all he had to do was comply.
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  All Renee Good had to do was get out of the vehicle.
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  Get out of the way, is what the ICE agent said.
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  And she would still be alive today.
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  You cannot take a vehicle, use it as a weapon, and not comply with federal law enforcement officials.
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  There is a law, 18 USC 11, makes that a federal crime.
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  You can't impede any federal law enforcement official from doing their job.
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  And that is what Renee Good was doing.
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  Let's get the truth out there before this thing runs away and becomes the winter of love in 2025.
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  Here is more of Mayor Fry.
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  People are being hurt.
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  Families are being ripped apart.
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  Long-term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to our economy are being terrorized, and now somebody is dead.
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  Well, there are illegal immigrants there.
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  He doesn't mention that, does he?
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  He says there are residents of Minneapolis.
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  He doesn't say citizens of the United States that are here that are being ripped apart.
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  No, he doesn't, because he won't recognize that the people that ICE is there for broke the law to begin with to get into the country.
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  This is the mindset of people like Mayor Fry and Governor Tim Walls in Minnesota.
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  And you can't do much about that mindset.
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  No!
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  No!
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  And that is the sound of that audio that I said I would play for you.
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  That is the video that shows what happened.
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  I'm gonna play it again.
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  There is a lot of cussing.
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  I'll see what I can do about cleaning that up for you.
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  But here is the video again.
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  You will hear doors open, and that is ice agents getting out of that vehicle, two ice agents getting out of their vehicle that they parked in the middle of the road, and then you have them both going to Renee Good's uh vehicle.
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  Now, from this angle of this video, you cannot see the ICE agent that is already standing in front of her car, which is the ice agent that ended up shooting her and killing her.
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  You can't see that agent from this angle.
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  You can see that agent from other angles.
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  Okay, you hear the ice agents there saying, get out of the car.
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  And then there was the shooting, and Renee Good drove off for about a hundred feet, hit the back of another vehicle, and she is dead.
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  And there have been complaints that the agents didn't do anything to help her right then.
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  There was a doctor there that was saying, I'm a doctor, let me help her, and they wouldn't let him in.
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  Obviously, they couldn't because it is now a crime scene.
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  They had EMS come a few minutes later, and there was nothing they could do for her.
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  Here is an account from an eyewitness that was standing there watching it, as well as a little bit of hearsay that she had from other witnesses that were there.
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  The car blocking tra the two lanes of Portland traffic.
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  Um ICE agents got out and they were saying, Get out of here, get out of here.
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  She was what looked like trying to turn, she was trying to turn around.
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  And uh the Ice Agent was in front of her car, and he pulled out a gun.
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  Again, this is an eyewitness.
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  She was there.
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  You can hear it in her voice that she's still a little bit shaken, I would say, maybe a little bit nervous, but she's explaining what she saw as we have the left saying that ICE is murdering people.
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  It's important to understand there is a law against impeding law enforcement on the federal side, and you're supposed to comply.
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  It's really simple.
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  And Renee Good would be alive.
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  Right, and like he was his middle was on her bumper, and he reached across the hood of the car and shot her in the face like three, four times.
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  She is talking about the ICE officer that you cannot see in a lot of videos that are going around.
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  There was an ice officer, as she says she is a witness there.
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  She saw it all happen.
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  And she said that there was that ice officer there.
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  Donald Trump said that ICE officer was injured.
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  I don't know how bad he was injured.
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  It doesn't appear that it was really, really bad.
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  And soon thereafter, there became protesters there on the streets, and they were burning an American flag there.
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  These protesters.
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  Those that showed up to support the 37-year-old Renee Good were burning American flags.
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  Here is a report from Newsmax on that.
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  Bob, I want to jump in here.
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  I want to ask you where you're at right now.
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  What kind of things are they shouting?
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  The crowd that's out there.
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  I I know they're obviously not happy ice is there.
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  They've been talking about that.
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  What are they saying?
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  You know, what's the energy like where you are right now?
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  So that's one reason why I'm not getting too close so I can hear all of you because it is loud out here.
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  It's profanity, it's a lot of profanities against ice.
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  A lot of profanities against ice.
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  And as long as that rhetoric continues, you're gonna have people like the lady that was killed continue to show up and trying to block ice, which is why she is no longer with us, why she is dead.
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  I'm gonna move on from that, but I'm not gonna move on from the state of Minnesota.
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  We're gonna stay there because there was a big hearing in Congress that took place on Wednesday, and this had to do with the fraud that is going on in Minnesota, Minneapolis, with the Somalians.
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  There was some interesting questioning going on before we get to that.
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  Let's go to an audit that revealed that Minnesota Department of Health employees have been fabricating documents to cover for their mismanagement of taxpayer funded grants issued to health providers.
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  One example of this shows that DHS employee issuing a six hundred and seventy-five thousand dollar grant to a company without gathering any information from the services that that company even provides.
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  The employee then left the DHS in the state of Minnesota and was given a consulting fee from the company that they granted $675,000 for.
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  The whistleblowers have been coming out of the woodwork for years and years in Minnesota, and the state government there has completely ignored it.
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  Or did they cover it up?
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  I'm not sure.
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  Here's this report from a television station in Minneapolis.
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  According to the nonpartisan legislative auditor, this is another case of mismanagement of taxpayer money.
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  But perhaps the most explosive revelation is that managers within DHS, the Department of Human Services tried to cover their tracks by backdating and creating new documents.
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  And how it is frankly unacceptable.
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  Another sobering report by the Office of the Legislative Auditor.
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  This one concerning the Behavioral Health Administration within the Department of Human Services, which issues grants to providers treating mental health and drug and alcohol addiction.
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  Hundreds of millions of dollars each year.
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  The audit found them issuing grants to applicants without a bidding process.
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  So what we saw is that there was multiple entities that could have been eligible, and they chose not to provide a justification for why they were picking those.
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  This um report is is quite stunning.
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  One outrageous example.
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  What about that?
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  That's incredible, isn't it?
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  It really is.
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  There is so much going on in Minneapolis, and as I've said repeatedly, it's the tip of the iceberg.
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  What about California?
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  What about Illinois and New York?
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  I cannot imagine what those states are going to look like when they finally take a look at them if they're allowed to.
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  Gavin Newsom says, come on.
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  We've done nothing wrong.
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  J.D.
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  Vance was on with Jesse Waters on Wednesday night.
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  He talked about that, so let's listen to the vice president of the United States.
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  We're going to get to the bottom of it.
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  Well, Tim Waltz should be worried because you can't misspell learning and take someone's money.
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  He should be worried for many reasons.
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  He called you weird.
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  Remember that?
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  Oh, I know.
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  Because I don't like Somali fraudsters.
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  I guess that makes me weird.
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  Guilty as charged.
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  Gavin Newsom, he says, You guys want to come look at California?
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  Bring it on.
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  Yeah, uh, well, we will.
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  We appreciate that invitation, Gavin, and we are going to accept that invitation because look, uh, California, more than almost any other state, has been so glaring and obvious about the fact that they're giving welfare benefits to illegal aliens.
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  Like that's not you go to the California Medicaid website, and they will advertise that they are spending American tax dollars to give Medicaid to illegal aliens.
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  You think there's not fraud there?
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  You think there are people who are creating fraudulent doctor's offices, fraudulent payment schemes?
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  There are.
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  They're getting rich off of the generosity of the American taxpayer.
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  The political corruption that enables it has got to stop, and that's what we're focused on.
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  So Gavin Newsom says, Come on in to California and do an audit.
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  So that's what JD Vance says they will do.
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  It's going to be interesting to watch that one for sure.
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  Here's one more from J.D.
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  Vance with Jesse Waters.
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  Um, if you look at the amount of fraud in the welfare system, according to the statistics I've seen, eighty-five percent of Somalins, Somalians who are in the United States, legal and illegal, are collecting some form of welfare benefits.
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  So that's not to disparage the other 15%, but when you're in 85% of a population that is collecting welfare, that suggests that we have really done something wrong with regards to vetting, and that's the fundamental issue.
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  Even if there's no fraud, 85% collecting welfare is way too many damn people collecting welfare, getting rich off the American taxpayer while a lot of Americans struggle.
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  That's unacceptable.
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  It is unacceptable.
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  And a great point, too.
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  85% of Somalians in America are receiving welfare after years of being here.
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  Thirty years.
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  This goes back to the early 90s.
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  Blackhawk down.
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  Remember that?
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  That is where all of this started when there was a civil war in Somalia.
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  So a lot of these people have been here for 30 years.
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  A lot of them have been born in America, and they are American citizens, and yet they are on welfare.
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  Have they learned that uh taking welfare is the way of America, or have they not been taught that uh you should go out and get a job?
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  We have maybe failed them in that way as well, and probably Minnesota has made it very simple for them to do what they have done.
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  Obviously, I think that is what is coming out.
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  We're gonna learn more about what is coming out in just a few minutes when we get into that hearing that took place Wednesday on Capitol Hill in the House of Representatives.
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  Very interesting information coming out about that.
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  You heard Vice President J.D.
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  Vance there in that audio clip in the first segment.
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  When he said we're going to get to the bottom of it, and he is talking about all the fraud that took place.
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  500 billion to one trillion dollars is what the estimates are from COVID relief.
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  That is a lot of fraud.
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  And that's why I say Minneapolis, Minnesota.
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  That's just the tip of the iceberg.
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  Maybe we'll go to California, maybe New York, maybe Illinois.
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  Not sure where we will be able to get into to discover this.
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  I would think the federal government has enough authority and power to find out where our money is going and how it is being wasted and where the corruption and the fraud is.
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  You would think that at a very minimum we should be able to find that out since it's our money.
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  This has been going on for years in Minnesota.
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  There was a hearing on Capitol Hill on Wednesday.
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  We're going to get to that in a minute, but before we do, I find it interesting now that some mainstream media is starting to report on this.
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  CNN had Keith Ellison, who is the attorney general in the state of Minnesota on with them.
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  I'm going to play a clip from that in just a second.
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  Let's go back to 2021, 22, and 23, when all of this started in Minnesota.
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  It has been going on forever.
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  And they have convicted people.
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  And of course, we have to prosecute it.
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  And of course, we have been prosecuting it.
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  Have you done enough general to do so?
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  I mean, one of the claims is that there has been hundreds of millions of dollars, but now there are some estimates that there could be nine billion dollars or more, and no one was just suggesting they took hundreds of people off the street who were involved in fraud.
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  Are you confident your office has done enough?
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  Of course we've done enough.
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  And we're doing more every single day.
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  This is a political matter.
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  This is not a serious thing.
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  And I tell you This is not a serious thing, the A.G.
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  Keith Ellison says.
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  That is unless the government is covering things up.
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  If they knew about the fraud long ago and they didn't do anything about it, and they in fact covered it up.
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  There are many, many employees of Minnesota that have been blowing the whistle on this for years.
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  It's been going on for a long time.
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  Some of them were on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, and they testified.
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  Let's go to the House Oversight Chairman, James Comer from the state of Kentucky to start this off.
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  Oversight committee is holding its first hearing on the massive fraud in Minnesota's social services program.
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  Minnesota Social Services, which are funded by you, the American taxpayer, are being ripped off.
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  The most vulnerable are suffering as a result.
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  Federal prosecutors estimate that these criminals have stolen at least nine billion dollars.
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  It's an estimate.
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  Understand that.
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  This is where that number comes from.
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  That nine billion.
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  There is nothing to corroborate that nine billion.
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  The attorney general in Minneapolis in Minnesota, he said that there could be as much as nine billion dollars, possibly.
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  That's a lot of much as, and possibly, but that's a number that's been thrown around.
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  You heard CNN mention it.
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  You hear James Comer talking about it now.
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  None of us actually know that it's nine billion dollars.
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  They say it's up to possibly it may be nine billion.
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  The fraudsters, many of whom are from Minnesota's Somali community, have stolen from programs meant to feed needy kids, provide services to autistic children, house low-income and disabled Americans, and provide health care to vulnerable Medicaid recipients.
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  Fraudsters like these take millions to enrich themselves while providing nothing, overstating or outright faking the services.
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  These people that have done this, they have bought expensive cars.
• 25:56
  They've bought property in countries all over the world, actually, is what they have done with this money.
• 26:02
  And the people that pay the price are those that need the services.
• 26:06
  They pay it the most.
• 26:07
  And then, of course, we also pay it because it's our money that's being wasted and being stolen.
• 26:13
  Thank you, Mr.
• 26:14
  Chairman.
• 26:14
  Mr.
• 26:14
  Hudson, who is Salem Saeed and Amy Bach.
• 26:18
  Here's Ohio Representative Jim Jordan asking questions now.
• 26:22
  I recognize those names as defendants in the Feeding Our Future trial.
• 26:26
  They ran Feeding Our Future, is that right?
• 26:28
  That's correct.
• 26:28
  And they've been indicted.
• 26:29
  That's correct.
• 26:30
  They've been convicted.
• 26:31
  That's correct.
• 26:32
  And they're in jail waiting sentences.
• 26:33
  Is that right?
• 26:34
  As I understand it.
• 26:35
  Okay, I want to go back because uh earlier with Mr.
• 26:37
  Gill, you said uh they they that they overlooked the fraud.
• 26:40
  I think it's worse than that.
• 26:42
  I think they helped it along.
• 26:44
  I'm gonna go to this meeting that took place uh, or actually I'm gonna go to March 30th, 2021.
• 26:49
  Is it true?
• 26:50
  Back in March of 2021, the Minnesota Department of Education suspended payments to feeding our future, that program, is that right?
• 26:57
  I believe that's correct.
• 26:58
  And then a month later, they resume payments.
• 27:01
  That's correct.
• 27:02
  What caused them to change their mind?
• 27:04
  In my opinion, what caused them to change their mind was pushback from their constituency within the Somali community who accused the state agencies of being racist.
• 27:13
  But what caused them to stop it in the first place?
• 27:15
  Was it whistleblowers coming forward?
• 27:17
  Was it like this this something's not right here?
• 27:19
  What happened?
• 27:20
  Apologize for the misunderstanding.
• 27:22
  The reason they stopped the funds in the first place is because they had credible allegations that there was fraud taking place.
• 27:26
  From whistleblowers and others.
• 27:28
  They just are doing their job.
• 27:29
  Looking, this doesn't make sense.
• 27:30
  We got all these programs, no one's getting fed, and yet money's going out the door like crazy.
• 27:34
  So they suspended it, and then they started it back up, right?
• 27:37
  Was there any was there any threat of a lawsuit from the Somali community?
• 27:40
  Uh and and folks affiliated with feeding our future.
• 27:44
  One thing that they do, the Somalians and other groups, they use racism as a way to get their way.
• 27:52
  This wasn't racism.
• 27:54
  There was nothing about it that was racism.
• 27:56
  They were stealing.
• 27:57
  They didn't want to get caught, they wanted it to continue so that they could buy property around the world, they could buy their luxury cars and their nice houses.
• 28:05
  It wasn't racism.
• 28:07
  It was the opposite of that.
• 28:08
  Mr.
• 28:09
  Jordan, there was more than a threat, they actually did.
• 28:11
  They did.
• 28:11
  And what was it?
• 28:12
  What was the alleged claim in that lawsuit?
• 28:14
  That they were victims of racial discrimination.
• 28:16
  Oh, they played the race card, huh?
• 28:18
  All this fraud going on, money going out, and they played the race card.
• 28:22
  Now, was uh when I talked about not just overlooking it, there was a meeting that took place between the attorney general and affiliates of Feeding Our Future.
• 28:29
  Is that right?
• 28:30
  That is correct.
• 28:32
  And what happened at that meeting?
• 28:33
  Did we know?
• 28:34
  Yeah, we do because we have it on tape.
• 28:36
  There was an audio recording made at that meeting that was entered into evidence in the Feeding Our Future trial, and it was later revealed through work from Center of the American Experiments, the full recording.
• 28:48
  And my observations of what took place uh in that meeting was that Attorney General Keith Ellison was focused on one thing and one thing only, and that was keeping these folks in business.
• 28:58
  There were no questions that he asked of these folks about how the kids are doing the operation, how they're getting fed, who's being helped.
• 29:06
  Instead, the focus was entirely on ensuring that the money continues to flow, and I'll add that he went so far as to say that he was going to fight these people in reference to the state agencies.
• 29:16
  The state agencies are his client.
• 29:19
  Yeah.
• 29:20
  And when you said money's gonna flow, did money flow to Mr.
• 29:22
  Ellison's campaign a couple weeks later from some of the folks who were in that meeting?
• 29:25
  Sure did.
• 29:26
  How much do we know how much that was?
• 29:28
  I do not have that number.
• 29:29
  So it wasn't just so interesting that Attorney General Keith Ellison there.
• 29:34
  He has been implicated in continuing the fraud that was happening in Minnesota years ago, 2021 is when Jim Jordan said that took place.
• 29:44
  Brandon Gill, a young representative in his first term, he's also the son-in-law of Denesh D'Souza.
• 29:52
  He had a great line of questioning.
• 29:54
  Let's go to that.
• 29:55
  Miss Robbins, when would you say we concretely knew that widespread?
• 30:00
  Welfare fraud was occurring in Minnesota.
• 30:03
  There have been reports since 2009 from the Office of Legislative Auditor.
• 30:08
  I would say the credible reports on child care fraud started surfacing twenty eleven to two thousand thirteen.
• 30:15
  So for over a decade.
• 30:16
  Yes, sir.
• 30:17
  When do you think Governor Waltz knew about this fraud?
• 30:20
  From the very beginning.
• 30:21
  He was running for governor in 2018 when there were uh prosecutions going on when there was an OLA report.
• 30:28
  Uh active uh cases in the news all the time.
• 30:32
  And and what was the Waltz administration's response?
• 30:37
  They um actually did nothing when they got into office.
• 30:41
  And um Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan had been on the committee in the legislature that had hearings on child care fraud, and when they got into office, they they did put five million dollars into a little more money, but nothing changed.
• 30:55
  But nothing.
• 30:56
  And look let me ask you, uh Mr.
• 30:57
  Hudson, thank you for being here.
• 30:59
  Um, did those who who commit this fraud, do they typically vote for Republicans or Democrats?
• 31:04
  In your opinion.
• 31:05
  In my opinion, thank you for qualifying like that.
• 31:08
  I would say they most definitely overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.
• 31:11
  Do they typically donate to Republicans or Democrats?
• 31:14
  Not to my knowledge.
• 31:14
  They went in your donate to Republicans, they donate to Democrats in my opinion.
• 31:18
  Yes, got it.
• 31:18
  So would you say this is uh the Somali population is an important demographic for Democrats to win over politically?
• 31:25
  Unquestionably.
• 31:26
  Got it.
• 31:27
  And do you think it would have hurt Democrats' politic political standing with the Somali population to investigate this fraud very clearly?
• 31:34
  That block of votes in Minneapolis is 80,000.
• 31:38
  There are 109,000 Somalians in Minnesota.
• 31:42
  80,000 voting block voting for Ilan Omar in Congress.
• 31:48
  That's a big voting block.
• 31:50
  That is a bunch of people that no one uh on the Democrat side wanted to ruffle their feathers because if they did, it could cost them elections.
• 31:59
  And it's all about power and control.
• 32:02
  So did they cover it up?
• 32:04
  Yeah, probably so.
• 32:05
  You hear the name Keith Ellison.
• 32:07
  You hear Governor Tim Walls.
• 32:09
  Both of them are being drilled down on in this congressional hearing at the end of it, that the conclusion of the hearing.
• 32:16
  I'm not done with it yet, but at the conclusion of it, Representative Anna Paulina Luna has referred both of them to the Department of Justice for a possible criminality.
• 32:27
  That's what Anna Paulina Luna has done.
• 32:30
  And let's keep going here with this questioning from Representative Brandon Gill.
• 32:34
  So, in other words, you're saying that there was a political incentive to cover up widespread Somali fraud.
• 32:39
  Is that right?
• 32:40
  100%.
• 32:40
  All right, let me ask all three of you.
• 32:42
  Um, did the Waltz administration and Democrats intentionally, in your opinion, overlook this fraud while it was happening for political gain.
• 32:50
  I'll start with you, Miss Robbins.
• 32:52
  Absolutely.
• 32:53
  We have credible whistleblower reports that the Department of Human Services administration up to the OIG and the Commissioner met with a group called the Minnesota Minority Child Care Association multiple times, and that they were trying to weaken protections.
• 33:09
  We wanted we we had several changes we wanted to do, and they opposed all of them.
• 33:13
  And and Mr.
• 33:13
  Hudson and Miss Rarek, and then my time is up.
• 33:16
  Uh I would agree.
• 33:18
  Absolutely.
• 33:19
  The whistleblowers confirm it.
• 33:21
  Got it.
• 33:21
  Thank you.
• 33:22
  I mentioned Representative Anna Paulina Luna.
• 33:25
  Let's go to her and hear some of her questionings.
• 33:27
  Honorable Robbins, based on your record before your committee, when did Governor Walls first become aware of widespread fraud in Minnesota social service programs?
• 33:36
  I would uh assume that he has been aware of it since he ran for office for governor in 2018.
• 33:42
  By 2017, DHS investigators warned CCAP fraud could exceed 50 percent.
• 33:48
  What um was that information elevated to the governor's office?
• 33:51
  Yes, there was an OLA report.
• 33:53
  Thank you, ma'am.
• 33:54
  Um, by 2020, state officials knew feeding our future invoices were fraudulent.
• 33:58
  We know that payments continue to the AG's knowledge.
• 34:00
  Did they continue to governor the governor's knowledge as well?
• 34:03
  Yes.
• 34:04
  Um Attorney General Ellison agreed on tape to fight Minnesota's own Department of Human and Health Services in exchange for Somali political and financial support.
• 34:12
  In your personal opinion, do you believe it is a possibility that Governor Walls also made that personal deal or that he at least knew about the attorney general's agreement?
• 34:21
  I don't know.
• 34:22
  Okay.
• 34:23
  Um I don't want to rehash what you guys have spent hours answering.
• 34:27
  We know that there's a big issue with the fraud in Minnesota.
• 34:31
  Um so on a number of things, I'd first like to point out thank you for being here today.
• 34:34
  Um, but because of your testimony and because of some of the evidence that we've seen brought forward, as well as I'm sure the fact that this committee, I assume um at Chairman Comer's direction will be soon subpoenaing A.
• 34:45
  G.
• 34:45
  Ellison.
• 34:46
  I would like to make criminal referrals um regarding Governor Walls as well as A.
• 34:51
  G.
• 34:51
  Ellison.
• 34:52
  Um, as you know, U.S.
• 34:54
  Code 371 and U.S.
• 34:55
  Code 2, which deals with criminalized conspiracies to defraud the United States and establishes liability for individuals who knowingly aid or about the commission of federal offense.
• 35:04
  Um includes willing full blindness or deliberate inaction where duties um to act exist.
• 35:09
  So I will be referring them later on today.
• 35:12
  So you have that.
• 35:13
  Where will that go?
• 35:14
  It now goes to the Department of Justice and Attorney General Pam Bondy Harmie Dillon.
• 35:20
  I guess she would do it instead of Todd Blanch.
• 35:22
  Todd Blanche handles the criminal side of the Department of Justice, Harmete Dillon handles civil things.
• 35:30
  I'm not sure which way that goes.
• 35:31
  I maybe it is criminal.
• 35:33
  I guess it is criminal.
• 35:34
  It would go to Todd Blanche then, I assume.
• 35:37
  Just an assumption on my part.
• 35:38
  But we'll have to wait and see where this goes.
• 35:40
  The news continues to come out about Minnesota fraud, and then we had the ice killing.
• 35:47
  In Minnesota, like I said at the beginning of this hour, let's just give them to Canada at this point.
• 35:53
  And I know there are a lot of great people in Minnesota.
• 35:56
  If you happen to live there, I'm sorry that you're having to put up with everything that has been going on in Minnesota for years and years.
• 36:03
  You heard that.
• 36:03
  You heard them talk about this going all the way back to what, 2009?
• 36:08
  Well over a decade.
• 36:10
  This fraud has been taking place in Minnesota, and it's time for us to get to the bottom of it.
• 36:15
  And not only that, I'm tired of getting to the bottom of things.
• 36:18
  I'm tired of hearings.
• 36:20
  It's time for accountability.
• 36:22
  It's time for Tim Walls.
• 36:24
  It's time for Keith Ellison to be perp-walked.
• 36:27
  Put them in handcuffs, like you did Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, and others.
• 36:33
  It's that time.
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• 38:35
  Welcome back to the truth be told here on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
• 38:38
  I am Booker Scott.
• 38:40
  And you know, with Donald Trump coming into office, you have to ask the question what is he going to do about everything that happened in COVID?
• 38:47
  I think it's a tricky question when it comes to Donald Trump.
• 38:51
  You know, Trump had warp speed, and he was really proud of that and getting the vaccine to the market so fast, but then that's where the problems come in with those that have died and those that have been injured.
• 39:03
  One person that has really spent the last four years of his life dealing with this and diving into the details and the data is a guy by the name of John Bodouan Sr.
• 39:13
  And he's been on the program a couple of times and he always brings great information.
• 39:18
  He did at one time, he sued the governor of Massachusetts, Governor Baker over masks.
• 39:24
  And that was several years ago.
• 39:25
  And then he's done incredible research with death certificates matched up to what they say they allegedly died from and the difference in that.
• 39:35
  And you get he can get way deep in the weeds on it.
• 39:38
  I don't know that we're going to spend a whole lot of time there because he has a different initiative that he is starting, but right now I want to welcome John to the program.
• 39:46
  John, welcome back.
• 39:47
  Thanks, Booker.
• 39:47
  Really happy to be here.
• 39:49
  A lot of new stuff, and I'm excited Trump's there.
• 39:51
  Yeah, I I know I know necessarily you're not a huge Trump MAGA person, but in this past election, I know that you know that.
• 40:00
  There was no other choice.
• 40:01
  And uh, you know, I don't I'm not gonna say that you held your nose and and voted, because I don't think you did, but uh uh you were not always a Trump guy, uh, but uh you know, we didn't have much of a choice this time.
• 40:14
  I'm glad he's there, just like you are though.
• 40:16
  We happened to be in a forum the other night.
• 40:19
  It's been a couple of weeks ago, and you mentioned an initiative that you are starting.
• 40:23
  I wanted to bring you on to talk about that because I think there is a bigger picture here that a lot of times the Republicans and conservatives miss, and that is the ability to come together and make something happen.
• 40:36
  We are more like uh cats on a hot tin roof than we are able to come together like the Democrats do.
• 40:42
  So, what exactly do you have going on right now?
• 40:45
  Um, so um I guess I'll call it the 100-day freedom alliance.
• 40:49
  Um, but as far as uh our side, our side being conservatives, libertarians, constitutionalists, let's throw us all together because we were stronger together.
• 40:59
  Yeah, for great schools, uh Latin, stronger with allies.
• 41:04
  So um, by our very nature, we we care about freedom and individuality.
• 41:10
  Um, and therefore it's much more difficult for us to get together.
• 41:13
  You know, Republicans don't align a line on everything.
• 41:18
  Um, not like the Democrats, they're just a bunch of uh, I shouldn't say Democrats, progressives, the what they call liberals, which are anti-liberal people.
• 41:27
  Um, they do whatever they're told to do.
• 41:30
  And so they they can muster an army of public opinion a lot faster and easier than we can because our individualists um say the libertarians don't like what the Republicans are doing, and they're just not going to support them.
• 41:43
  So I will say that the way you win wars, and here's the alliance, right?
• 41:49
  I I don't say unity, I don't say union.
• 41:51
  I don't say we have to join, we have to come together.
• 41:54
  You don't have to join anything, you don't have to come together.
• 41:56
  You don't have to uh unify, you a lie.
• 42:00
  That's how you win wars.
• 42:02
  That's how you won wars in World Wars One and Two, and and most wars are won that way.
• 42:07
  I I like the use of that word, uh, an ally.
• 42:10
  We have to come together in an alliance with common goals and objectives.
• 42:15
  We don't need to get down in the weeds on everything.
• 42:18
  We just have to be on the same side in something.
• 42:21
  Exactly.
• 42:22
  And and the point is when you try to bring groups together, um, the leaders don't want to give up their sovereignty, don't want to give up their lever leadership positions or the sovereign mission of or or goal, say that's a high level thing, right?
• 42:36
  Mission or goal.
• 42:38
  Um, they don't want to give that up.
• 42:39
  They want their independence, they want their their mission, they want their goal, and they want to keep their their leadership.
• 42:45
  And so when you try to unify, uh, there's a sacrifice that is generally made, and that it breaks apart whatever you're trying to unify.
• 42:54
  Whereas an alliance, you you don't have to give up any sovereignty.
• 42:58
  You keep your group, you keep your mission, you keep your leadership, and you just send a liaison, an alliance liaison to uh barter with the other the other groups in the alliance to say what common objectives that we have that we can further our individual missions, which are all disparate and different, but we have common objectives.
• 43:16
  Like in this case, you know, I one of the objectives I have is stop the shots.
• 43:22
  They they killed a million Americans, half by hospital homicides and half by vaccines.
• 43:28
  I want to stop them.
• 43:29
  They're still still giving it to some places.
• 43:32
  The other one is fund the vaccine injured.
• 43:35
  We have over 10 million people who are seriously injured, and we have over 50 million people injured from these vaccines.
• 43:41
  And um, you know, unless we fund them, these people are losing their jobs, they're losing their houses, you know, and they and they did what they thought was right.
• 43:49
  And I'm not gonna call them stupid, they're not stupid, has nothing to do with intelligence.
• 43:54
  You know, they they may not have uh encountered nefarious people in their life.
• 43:58
  And so it's really important to a lie and create an alliance.
• 44:02
  Um, and that's what I want to do in this first hundred days.
• 44:04
  I'm going to be uh rolling it out, hopefully either early next week or late this week.
• 44:09
  It's already Wednesday, though.
• 44:10
  Um, I have agreement from a couple of uh presidents of big groups where they they would join depending on the message.
• 44:18
  We we first have to meet, and we have to decide on three objectives.
• 44:22
  I don't want more.
• 44:23
  We might have to go to four.
• 44:24
  Um, and whatever they decide.
• 44:26
  And and I don't want it just to be health freedom.
• 44:29
  I I don't care if the NRA joins and we do, you know, concealed carry nationally for one of the three or one of the four objectives, if we can all agree on it.
• 44:38
  And each each group doesn't have to agree on all four objectives.
• 44:42
  All I want to be sure of is that in the first hundred days of the administration, we bring all resources to bear.
• 44:48
  Every group should be telling all of their followers.
• 44:51
  These are the three or four things we're going to talk about.
• 44:53
  You can pick one or all four.
• 44:55
  Yeah.
• 44:55
  It's up to you.
• 44:56
  Yeah.
• 44:57
  I love the idea.
• 44:58
  Yeah, I do.
• 44:59
  When we were speaking in that forum a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned uh prior to the 22 midterm, I sat down and I I doodle a lot.
• 45:07
  I I draw things.
• 45:09
  And I I considered the Bible and wanting to be in the upper room.
• 45:14
  And the way that I saw things with conservatives and Republicans, and you probably see it this way too.
• 45:19
  If the objective is to always be in the upper room, which it was in the Bible, then why are we spending all of our time on the first floor making arguments about abortion and guns and this and that?
• 45:31
  We're we're so far into the weeds all the time because we don't have the leadership at the top with a clear objective and the mission that we all should be striving for.
• 45:43
  And I think that leadership has been missing in the Republican Party from the RNC and the local GOP.
• 45:49
  It's even with Donald Trump, it doesn't seem to me there is a cohesive message of the as you mentioned, two, three or four points that everybody can agree on.
• 45:58
  And let's get under this tent and then let's get to work on those three or four things.
• 46:03
  We don't have to uh, you know, and not everybody has to be pro-life.
• 46:06
  You can be the other way, but what can we agree on?
• 46:10
  And I think that's what you're talking about, isn't it, John?
• 46:13
  Exactly right.
• 46:15
  The um we tend to eat our own, as people say, you know, if somebody and a lot of it is hubris, you say, why can't we?
• 46:21
  And we're in the weeds.
• 46:22
  A lot of being in the weeds, uh, some of it is just that people are generally tactical, not strategic.
• 46:27
  Um I I was trained, they spent 40,000 training me on putting strategic plans together to win very large um, you know, seven, eight, nine-figure contracts in software where there's no cost of goods sold.
• 46:41
  You can equate that to 100, 200 million dollar type deals.
• 46:44
  And you know, I would get into the personalities of various CEOs of billion-dollar companies, CTOs, uh, chief legal counsel, um, you got to talk the finance guy, the engineering guy, the operations guy, uh, the the legal and finance and everything.
• 47:00
  And you don't say the same message to each one.
• 47:02
  And you you don't, if if you have a weaker product, you don't go frontal against an overwhelming force.
• 47:08
  If your competitor is is overwhelming you, you you try things like fragment and multi-point and choke point.
• 47:14
  Um these these are these are things that 99.9% of people out there have not been trained in.
• 47:21
  And so when I say create an alliance, I have a specific meaning in my head.
• 47:25
  Everybody doesn't have to know it.
• 47:26
  All you have to know is you don't have to risk anything to your group.
• 47:29
  So for all the health freedom groups and all the freedom groups out there, mom's for liberty.
• 47:34
  I think there's a group called that.
• 47:35
  I think there's uh lots of gun rights groups, there's lots of lots of freedom and libertarian-minded groups.
• 47:42
  All you gotta do is just join a call, not a join a group.
• 47:47
  You don't have to give up any sovereignty and just say, you know what?
• 47:50
  We're gonna talk about this for a hundred days.
• 47:52
  Let's see if it works.
• 47:54
  Because if this works for a hundred days, then we bring to bear the most powerful alliance that can um uh that can change public opinion and can uh have a force on our government, other than the lobbyists all having a force.
• 48:11
  We're we're all we're all toads.
• 48:13
  Yeah, yeah.
• 48:14
  And you know, John, I I did a story back in July, I think it was 2023, I think.
• 48:23
  It will be in the archive if you go to uh the truth be told with Booker Scott.
• 48:28
  Actually, you'll need to go to America Outloud.news and find Booker Scott under authors and hosts, and then you can find this that I'm talking about.
• 48:37
  There was a meeting at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel one week after Hillary Clinton got beat by Donald Trump in 2016, and it brought together all of the Democrat organizations, which is similar to what you're talking about.
• 48:50
  And what they did there was they brought in the people that were responsible for overthrowing Slobodom Milosevic back uh you know 25 years ago.
• 49:02
  And those people at the time were college students, and now they are teaching the Democrats how to overthrow a government and a president in Donald Trump, and they did it one week after the election, which was just amazing to me.
• 49:15
  It wasn't anything illegal, but out of that was born Barack Obama's uh indivisible organization, and George Soros organization was there.
• 49:24
  Linda Sarsaur, Reed Hoffman, all the big Democrat donors were there in one room together, and they listened to this plan, which is called Oatpour in that religion, which are in that country, which is uh actually means a revolution.
• 49:40
  And so there was a playbook that the Democrats put into play, and then everything that we saw from the women's march in 2017 when Donald Trump was first sworn in all the way through the summer of love was from that meeting and from an alliance of different people, but all with a common goal, which was the
• 50:00
  The power of the presidency with Joe Biden, they got is what they ended up getting.
• 50:05
  But that's all they cared about was the power and the control.
• 50:08
  And that was the mission and the objective.
• 50:10
  And then all of the other things were just a way to get there.
• 50:14
  That's what you're talking about.
• 50:15
  And where do people connect with you to do this to get plugged in?
• 50:19
  Well, right now there's no place to go.
• 50:22
  Um I I really only mean to connect with the presidents of various organizations.
• 50:27
  If you're the president of an organization, you can find me at um, let's see.
• 50:31
  I get a lot of email there.
• 50:33
  So John Bodwin Sr.
• 50:34
  at gmail.com, J-O-H-N-B-E-A-U, D-O-I-N-S-R at gmail.com.
• 50:40
  Please contact me and I'll be happy to talk to you.
• 50:43
  What I'm going to probably do starting next week is have um probably have nightly calls, maybe maybe 9 p.m.
• 50:49
  Eastern time uh for an hour.
• 50:51
  And whoever whoever comes in, I will explain what's going on.
• 50:55
  I will ask you to consider it.
• 50:57
  Um consider the alliance, and then uh offer your top three or top five objectives, and when we get enough of them, we can kind of whittle them down to the the actual top three that we end up with, and hopefully there will be enough people in the alliance that uh we can bring to bear millions of followers on social media, on um emails to your your uh representatives and so forth.
• 51:20
  And anyway, yeah.
• 51:22
  So mission objective strategy tactics.
• 51:24
  That's how you do it.
• 51:25
  John, do you have any money yet?
• 51:27
  Do you have any organizations helping you out?
• 51:29
  No, no.
• 51:30
  And I don't do money.
• 51:33
  That's the million dollar question, though, when it comes to anything conservative.
• 51:37
  There is never any money laying around for conservative issues.
• 51:40
  It's always just the Democrats who's not.
• 51:43
  I know, I just don't, I really I really believe that if you do it right, you don't need money because people's investment isn't money, but it's their time.
• 51:52
  And their their time is the investment of time is more important than money.
• 51:57
  Um, I I know that money is important.
• 51:59
  I get it.
• 52:00
  But um, if I were to move to New Hampshire, which I hope to do, I've been saying it for a couple of years, more than two years, but uh now I have a pods in my driveway with moving furniture into it.
• 52:10
  Getting closer.
• 52:11
  Hopefully, it's getting closer.
• 52:12
  Yeah, the idea is getting closer.
• 52:13
  I'm paying rent for that thing in my driveway.
• 52:16
  So uh if I move up there, you know, it I want somebody to be able to run for a Senate office, like not a state senate, but like senator, um, U.S.
• 52:26
  Congress, and and win without having any money.
• 52:29
  That would be nice, because then you'd know.
• 52:31
  You'd know they were sent there to represent the people.
• 52:35
  I'm I'm all for getting all the money out of all elections.
• 52:38
  Dark money, all types of money.
• 52:40
  I'll get it out of the elections.
• 52:42
  That's the only way it's going to be fair and get true representation from people that want to represent their constituents and not a lobbyist on K Street.
• 52:51
  You mentioned a few minutes ago about uh getting three to five ideas from these different groups.
• 52:58
  How do you whittle it down when you have, let's say you have 15, 20 different sovereign groups that have their objectives, and so you end up on the table with 15 different, you know, main goals and objectives.
• 53:12
  How do you whittle that down to three from 15?
• 53:15
  Well, I mean, I spent 30 years in sales booker.
• 53:19
  So what I would do, so we'd say the border, the border is the most important thing.
• 53:23
  I'd say, yeah, it's already being taken care of.
• 53:25
  We don't have we don't have to bring to bear anything about that.
• 53:28
  They're already doing it.
• 53:29
  And whatever we say, um, they're gonna do it their way anyway.
• 53:33
  So let's let's that one's off the list.
• 53:35
  And I just go down the list and then reprioritize and then say, hey, if none of yours are on the list, we still hope that you stay with us.
• 53:42
  Um and I would probably look to retain the most voices.
• 53:48
  Yeah.
• 53:49
  Get the most people, yep.
• 53:50
  And then you have uh a larger uh voice for social media for emails and uh to get things done in Washington, D.C.
• 53:58
  So John, um, it sounds like you've got a great idea, a great plan.
• 54:02
  Uh let's hope that people hear about this and can join you in this alliance.
• 54:08
  I I it is needed so much on the Republican and conservative side that you know, we just can't come together really ever on anything.
• 54:17
  And uh, I think it's because we're in the weeds too much.
• 54:20
  And one thing that I see happening right now, I don't know if you see this, but uh since the last four, and and you can stretch it out even further than that.
• 54:28
  You can go back to eight or nine years when Donald Trump came down the escalator.
• 54:32
  It seems to me that there is a faction of MAGA, and maybe uh the largest faction of MAGA that all they know how to do is fight, fight something.
• 54:41
  And now that Donald Trump is winning, and you mentioned the border a minute ago is being taken care of.
• 54:45
  Well, what what do we do now?
• 54:47
  Well, we don't necessarily have to fight, but we do have to come together and start making some headway and some progress in uh the things that are important to us, don't we?
• 54:58
  If if you're gonna let's say you win the border issue, but you got kids in school, and you don't have them for six hours a day, five days a week, but your kids are being transitioned into some wacky stupid lifestyle.
• 55:12
  You know, oh, so you do the homeschool.
• 55:14
  Well, what if you can't afford it?
• 55:16
  You know, you can't you can't win everything.
• 55:18
  Um, but you can you can win the importance thing.
• 55:21
  So people should prioritize what's important, work at the definitely work the local level.
• 55:26
  Yeah, um, but there's plenty of issues to not fight about, but fight for.
• 55:31
  I mean, not fight with other, you know, fight for them.
• 55:33
  Don't fight against uh his name is John Bodouan Sr.
• 55:38
  And John, you write on Substack, tell everybody where they can read your work, especially the older stuff back going back to the data and the deaths with COVID, the vaccine shots.
• 55:48
  Tell everybody where to find you.
• 55:50
  Okay.
• 55:51
  So the real C D C T H E R E A L C D C dot Substack.com uh for my books, um, the real C D C dot com.
• 56:03
  And you you'll notice that uh we didn't talk about law, but very quickly.
• 56:07
  Um, all the cases are thrown out on standing doctrine.
• 56:10
  I have an amicus brief of the Supreme Court from September and Johnson v.
• 56:14
  Cotec.
• 56:15
  It explains the the breakdown of civil society in the United States, it all stems from 15 years ago with uh a couple of seminal cases that are now on a citation rate, more than 10 times any other cases in the history of the United States.
• 56:29
  And that's because everything's being thrown out of court.
• 56:32
  You wonder why we can't win elections cases for elections fraud.
• 56:35
  You wonder why we can't win cases for the border.
• 56:38
  You wonder why we can't win cases for uh vaccines or COVID uh wearing masks and all this stuff.
• 56:44
  They're all being tossed out of court based on standing doctrine, which is a relatively new thing in America.
• 56:49
  Yeah, um, and I'm going after that.
• 56:51
  So I'm I spend more time in law than I do with uh COVID data now.
• 56:55
  Well, John, it's always good to have you.
• 56:57
  I really appreciate your time and your work.
• 57:00
  Thank you for joining us here on the program.
• 57:02
  Thank you, Booker.
• 57:03
  Really appreciate it.
• 57:04
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