Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 8/26/26: Iran and Oman Defy Trump, Lake America, China Says Screw You
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- 1:44Speaker 1: Iran. We're going to start with Iran and Oman. They
- 1:46Speaker 1: are now announcing a new deal to govern the Strait
- 1:49Speaker 1: of Hormuz. This comes as Trump claims that all mines
- 1:52Speaker 1: have been taken out of the Strait. There's some interesting
- 1:54Speaker 1: stuff going on. with oil markets in addition to a long,
- 1:58Speaker 1: new reported piece from the Wall Street Journal about the
- 2:01Speaker 1: warnings that Trump received in the Situation Room that basically
- 2:05Speaker 1: laid out exactly what was going to happen, and he
- 2:07Speaker 1: did it anyway. Also, some major egg on the face,
- 2:10Speaker 1: not just for Pete Hegseth, who we always knew was
- 2:12Speaker 1: an idiot, but for General Dan Kaine, who really tried
- 2:14Speaker 1: to whitewash a lot of his reputation. the chairman of
- 2:17Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs of Staff ahead of time, and this
- 2:19Speaker 1: does show how much culpability he has in this disaster.
- 2:22Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Canada. Trump is now saying
- 2:25Speaker 1: he's going to rename Lake America, or sorry, Lake Ontario,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Lake America, as Canada has retaliated with a 50% new tariff.
- 2:32Speaker 1: I'm going to show you some of the economic fallout.
- 2:34Speaker 1: From that situation, China is now hitting back at Scott
- 2:38Speaker 1: Besson's threat of an economic D-Day. Man, this is one
- 2:42Speaker 1: of those days I was so bummed not to be
- 2:44Speaker 1: on the show. I mean, just to ridicule the D-Day.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I mean, just to imagine General Eisenhower being like, Germany,
- 2:51Speaker 1: I'm going to invade you.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Don't make me do it. Right.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Don't make me invade you. And then the press goes,
- 2:57Speaker 1: but why don't you just do it? And he goes, well,
- 2:59Speaker 1: why would I want to take casualties?
- 3:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Why would you?
- 3:03Speaker 3: All right.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Have you seen Saving Private Ryan? It's going to be awful.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Anyway, Robert Pape, the professor, the great professor, is going
- 3:10Speaker 1: to join us not to talk about Iran, but actually
- 3:12Speaker 1: to talk about South Korea, another area of expertise of
- 3:15Speaker 1: his as Donald Trump continues to marginalize and to isolate
- 3:19Speaker 1: South Korea. A South Korean public opinion flips against the
- 3:22Speaker 1: United States for the first time in its entire modern history. Also,
- 3:26Speaker 1: pet story here. I hope we have time for it
- 3:28Speaker 1: and we don't get lost.
- 3:29Speaker 3: In the sauce. Influencers.
- 3:31Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this story. There's this woman who is
- 3:33Speaker 1: on Twitter. Her name is Data Republican. She's like, you know,
- 3:37Speaker 1: major Trump, I guess, influencer. I'll leave it at that.
- 3:41Speaker 3: She's like a not as smart Nick Shirley. Right, right. Yeah.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Which is saying something in terms of spelling. Anyway, so
- 3:48Speaker 1: she has been out posting for years, you know, behind
- 3:51Speaker 1: her moniker, has revealing fraud and All this other stuff
- 3:55Speaker 1: also happens to be pro-Zionist. Well, it turns out not
- 3:58Speaker 1: only did she screw up a monumental story, which they
- 4:01Speaker 1: tried to hand her a leak, but through the revelation,
- 4:04Speaker 1: she is a working as an employee for the Pentagon.
- 4:08Speaker 1: And so, I mean, can you imagine like some anonymous
- 4:12Speaker 1: leftist influencer with a million followers under Biden who it
- 4:16Speaker 1: turns out.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Is literally working for the government? Oh, they're on the payroll.
- 4:19Speaker 3: Never mind. Bonkers.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Absolutely crazy. Finally, Dan Osborne is going to join us,
- 4:25Speaker 1: the candidate in Nebraska, to talk about this beef situation.
- 4:30Speaker 1: There's a very sketchy announcement where Donald Trump said we're
- 4:34Speaker 1: going to import millions of pounds. of beef, and then
- 4:37Speaker 1: these beef producers have agreed to sell at 25% below
- 4:40Speaker 1: market price. Nobody knows where the beef is coming from.
- 4:43Speaker 1: He literally won't say. They're covering it up.
- 4:45Speaker 3: The ranchers are losing their minds.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Ranchers and Midwestern senators, GOP people, are losing it. All
- 4:51Speaker 1: of these people are getting destroyed by two separate things,
- 4:55Speaker 1: the price of diesel and fertilizer. on top of the tariffs.
- 4:59Speaker 1: So they are getting absolutely nuked on the bottom line.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And to have the government basically bring in a bunch
- 5:04Speaker 1: of foreign beef, undercut the entire market, I mean, this
- 5:07Speaker 1: could literally be the death knell of the ranching industry.
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- 5:20Speaker 1: with Iran. As you said, A1, let's put it up
- 5:23Speaker 1: here on the screen. This was by far the biggest
- 5:25Speaker 1: news that came out yesterday. So on the left, this
- 5:28Speaker 1: is from the foreign minister of Oman. Here he says,
- 5:32Speaker 1: constructive dialogue in Tehran with my colleague, Dr. Arachi. I
- 5:36Speaker 1: am hopeful we will soon announce a temporary corridor for
- 5:39Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz and practical arrangements to restore safe navigation.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Future management of the Strait and a permanent solution will
- 5:46Speaker 1: follow in due course as per Article 5 of the
- 5:48Speaker 1: Islamabad Memorandum. Discussions with regional partners will be conducted in
- 5:52Speaker 1: support of peace, cooperation, stability, and freedom of navigation. But
- 5:56Speaker 1: in the joint statement that they put out, let's look
- 5:59Speaker 1: at this very carefully. The proposed framework, this is a
- 6:02Speaker 1: translation from Farsi, includes creating a temporary joint operation through
- 6:06Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz for the purpose of implementing a
- 6:09Speaker 1: joint corridor through the Strait with the goal of managing
- 6:12Speaker 1: a single corridor for the permanent and future management of
- 6:15Speaker 1: the Strait, as well as providing mechanisms for information exchange,
- 6:19Speaker 1: traffic management, and security-related services. In other words, this is
- 6:24Speaker 1: a single, unified corridor through the Strait of Hormuz, guaranteed
- 6:29Speaker 1: by Iran and Oman. It has nothing to do with
- 6:31Speaker 1: the United States. The United States has nothing to do
- 6:33Speaker 1: with brokering this agreement. This agreement, as you can read
- 6:36Speaker 1: between the lines, will include management fees and environmental fees,
- 6:41Speaker 1: security-related expenses, perhaps, in which Iran will be able to
- 6:45Speaker 1: charge some.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Sort of a toll.
- 6:47Speaker 1: It comes immediately after this new announcement from Donald Trump.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Let's put it up here on the screen. He claims, quote,
- 6:54Speaker 1: I have just been informed by the United States Navy,
- 6:57Speaker 1: all mines have been removed and or detonated from within
- 7:00Speaker 1: the international waters of the Strait. Iran has been notified
- 7:04Speaker 1: any ship or boat placing new mines will be immediately
- 7:06Speaker 1: and systematically destroyed. Through Space Force, we are watching every
- 7:10Speaker 1: square inch of the Strait, as we are also with
- 7:12Speaker 1: Pickaxe Mountain and the already destroyed three other nuclear sites.
- 7:15Speaker 1: There is a zero tolerance policy on mine placement in
- 7:18Speaker 1: full force and effect. Thank you for your attention to
- 7:21Speaker 1: this matter. It will shock you, absolutely shock you to
- 7:23Speaker 1: learn no independent analysis has been able to confirm, Ryan,
- 7:26Speaker 1: that all the mines have been removed through the Strait. Basically,
- 7:29Speaker 1: it's a battle of propaganda over who controls the actual
- 7:32Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz.
- 7:33Speaker 4: Yeah, and this comes after the Trump administration said that
- 7:36Speaker 4: if Oman cooperates with Iran— He will, quote, bomb the hell.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Out of them. No, bomb the shit out of them. Oh, sorry.
- 7:44Speaker 3: My fault. These are actually important distinctions.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Yes.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Oman's... What Oman is signaling here is that they understand
- 7:52Speaker 4: who's a more important player in the region and who's
- 7:55Speaker 4: going to be there longer. Spoiler, it's the country that...
- 8:00Speaker 4: has been there for thousands of years.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:01Speaker 4: That it's going to continue to be there, surrounded by mountains.
- 8:05Speaker 4: And while it is the one on the other side
- 8:06Speaker 4: of the ocean that has 15 of its bases in ashes,
- 8:11Speaker 4: that is less likely to be there for that long.
- 8:12Speaker 4: So Omana's like, you're really going to bomb the shit
- 8:15Speaker 4: out of us? I'm not so sure about that. This
- 8:19Speaker 4: also comes, interestingly, think about this. We spent Monday and
- 8:24Speaker 4: Tuesday talking about how Scott Besson is planning to launch D-Day.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:28Speaker 4: On any country that does any business whatsoever with Iran. Oman,
- 8:34Speaker 4: our ally, responds by jointly releasing a plan to reopen
- 8:41Speaker 4: the strait together with Iran.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Right.
- 8:44Speaker 4: It's like people are watching Scott Besson in amusement and
- 8:48Speaker 4: a little bit of kind of concern and horror.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:52Speaker 4: What and is he okay like that that's the kind
- 8:55Speaker 4: of i think the driving concern when people are watching
- 8:57Speaker 4: besant at that press conference like what's like i don't
- 9:01Speaker 4: is he gonna survive this just physically and then they're
- 9:04Speaker 4: like okay anyway back to the business of negotiating with
- 9:07Speaker 4: iran to reopen the the strait of hormuz meanwhile so
- 9:11Speaker 4: they're gonna let oil flow through the strait of hormuz
- 9:14Speaker 4: they've said they're not interested in nuclear weapon we'll end
- 9:17Speaker 4: the program like they've said that for days, for months,
- 9:21Speaker 4: for weeks, for years. So everything that we could ask for,
- 9:25Speaker 4: except the fact that it's embarrassing because they and Oman
- 9:29Speaker 4: will collectively run it.
- 9:31Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the U.S.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Seems to think they have some time on their hand.
- 9:35Speaker 3: We can put up a three.
- 9:36Speaker 4: This is oil analyst Roy Johnson analyzing some of the
- 9:40Speaker 4: new information coming out, showing that directionally the U.S. claims
- 9:43Speaker 4: that there's a little bit more oil coming through straight
- 9:46Speaker 4: up from U.S., The absolute number that they're claiming is
- 9:51Speaker 4: a bit preposterous.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 9:52Speaker 4: But directionally, as Johnson is saying here, it's in that
- 9:55Speaker 4: right direction. The problem is the Red Sea has collapsed.
- 10:00Speaker 4: because the Houthis have effectively shut down particularly Saudi ships.
- 10:09Speaker 4: And in the beginning of this, several months of this war,
- 10:13Speaker 4: the Saudis were able to move a lot through the
- 10:15Speaker 4: pipeline and through the Red Sea and through the Western coasts.
- 10:19Speaker 3: And that was keeping things... Right.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And actually, just to underscore your point, put A4 up
- 10:24Speaker 1: here on the screen to show the damage that they're
- 10:26Speaker 1: continuing to take in the Red Sea. This happened yesterday.
- 10:29Speaker 1: So there was a direct hit at sea, a projectile
- 10:33Speaker 1: that was fired from more than 1,000 kilometers away. As
- 10:36Speaker 1: you can see, the Yemenis, as this OSINT account is saying,
- 10:39Speaker 1: are improving their skills. I mean, this takes serious effort.
- 10:42Speaker 3: It's a moving ship.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Right. It's a moving target. It's 1,000-kilometer shot. The amount
- 10:46Speaker 1: of GP at navigation... technology involved. Remember, you have the
- 10:50Speaker 1: full force of the empire against you. You've been bombed.
- 10:53Speaker 1: You've been bombed by the Saudis. You've been taking hits
- 10:55Speaker 1: in caves for the last... 10 years, you've proven that
- 10:58Speaker 1: you've been able to clip an F-35 to survive the
- 11:00Speaker 1: onslaught of the Biden administration, of the Trump administration, of
- 11:04Speaker 1: the Saudi regime. And on top of that, you're still
- 11:07Speaker 1: able to hit a direct target a thousand kilometers away
- 11:12Speaker 1: and to menace the global oil market.
- 11:14Speaker 3: So I'm curious for your reaction.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Me reading this, this makes the situation 10 times more
- 11:18Speaker 1: dangerous because what is Iran seeing? As Rory has shown,
- 11:22Speaker 1: through his independent analysis, Gulf loadings are now roughly 7
- 11:27Speaker 1: to 10 million barrels per day. That is 50% of
- 11:30Speaker 1: pre-Hormuz or pre-Iran war Hormuz traffic.
- 11:34Speaker 3: They're learning.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Predominantly the way, and even though it's not just about oil,
- 11:39Speaker 1: this is what I also want to emphasize, the way
- 11:40Speaker 1: they're doing it is still really expensive. They're called ship-to-ship transfers,
- 11:45Speaker 1: where they load it up onto one ship, and then
- 11:47Speaker 1: they take a little ship and put it on another ship,
- 11:49Speaker 1: and then they run the blockade. It's kind of like
- 11:51Speaker 1: Confederate blockade runners on these tiny little ships. And then
- 11:54Speaker 1: they get to the big ship, which is raiding outside
- 11:56Speaker 1: the Strait, and then they put the oil back on.
- 11:58Speaker 1: It's super expensive. It's all uninsured, too, completely uninsured. It's
- 12:02Speaker 1: backed by the Gulf nations, which are paying for.
- 12:05Speaker 3: All of this.
- 12:05Speaker 1: So it's 10 times more expensive to do business this
- 12:09Speaker 1: way than normal. But some oil is beginning to leak
- 12:11Speaker 1: out just because the price is so damn high, especially
- 12:13Speaker 1: with diesel. So there is an economic incentive for this
- 12:17Speaker 1: to continue. As the United States and the Gulf allies
- 12:20Speaker 1: are able to prove that they are able to get
- 12:22Speaker 1: some oil out of the strait, and if Iran and
- 12:25Speaker 1: Oman are going to say, hey, we manage the strait,
- 12:27Speaker 1: in my opinion, this escalates the situation to a dire
- 12:30Speaker 1: consequence for Tehran. Because Tehran is in a situation now
- 12:35Speaker 1: where they're beginning to feel the economic blockade. Yesterday, the
- 12:38Speaker 1: Financial Times, which has an actual correspondent in Tehran, is
- 12:41Speaker 1: saying that there are lines, queues to get petrol, gasoline,
- 12:46Speaker 1: that there's beginning to be significant amounts of rationing throughout
- 12:49Speaker 1: the state. They can only sit there and take this
- 12:51Speaker 1: for so long, and they still have the ability to
- 12:53Speaker 1: horizontally escalate. I was reading this morning Qatar's LNG has
- 12:59Speaker 1: down 96% in the last six months, $ 24 billion in
- 13:05Speaker 1: revenue that they have been– had to give up. What's
- 13:08Speaker 1: worse for them is that the United States is the
- 13:11Speaker 1: one that's backfilling all of this LNG. I also read
- 13:14Speaker 1: this morning that European gas inventory is very, very low.
- 13:17Speaker 1: So the amount that we're all going to be paying
- 13:19Speaker 1: for electricity this winter is not going to be good.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So all of this right now is in a situation
- 13:25Speaker 1: where you're Iran, you're being slowly suffocated to death. You
- 13:29Speaker 1: have the ability to lash out. I've talked about the
- 13:31Speaker 1: Germans in 1916, unrestricted submarine warfare. They didn't want to
- 13:35Speaker 1: press a button, but ultimately they felt like they had to.
- 13:37Speaker 3: They said, we're going to die. We're going to be strangled, literally.
- 13:39Speaker 1: So what do you do? You use the last thing
- 13:42Speaker 1: in your arsenal. And Iran still has that ability. That's
- 13:45Speaker 1: why I think that as we see more oil begin
- 13:47Speaker 1: to flow through the strait, it makes escalation more likely
- 13:50Speaker 1: on their part because it's the only thing they have
- 13:53Speaker 1: left in their quiver.
- 13:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you picked up on that because that
- 13:56Speaker 4: seems to be the piece that both U.S. policymakers and
- 13:59Speaker 4: also the American media seems to be missing. And also
- 14:05Speaker 4: some kind of Iranian, I don't want to call them
- 14:07Speaker 4: supporters or whatever, they're missing the fact that Iran has
- 14:13Speaker 4: been able to basically annihilate all the American bases. They've
- 14:18Speaker 4: been able to withstand the punishment, the punishing attack from
- 14:22Speaker 4: the U.S., they've been able to inflict real damage, not
- 14:26Speaker 4: just militarily on the U.S., but also economically. But those
- 14:32Speaker 4: things by themselves, to your point, are not enough to
- 14:36Speaker 4: quote-unquote win the war. Like, you can't force the president
- 14:41Speaker 4: to abide by the MOU. You were able to pressure
- 14:44Speaker 4: him into an MOU, but then as he was feeling
- 14:47Speaker 4: shame or whatever, he felt comfortable walking away from it.
- 14:52Speaker 4: And To your point, yes, Iran probably doesn't have.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Years of this. Now, does the U.S. have years of it?
- 15:05Speaker 3: Politically speaking, can we keep that going? Who knows? The
- 15:10Speaker 3: point is.
- 15:10Speaker 4: Iran does have the capacity to escalate this. And Iran
- 15:17Speaker 4: has kept signaling over the past couple weeks that, They
- 15:20Speaker 4: keep saying, we are still at war. We do not
- 15:23Speaker 4: have a ceasefire with the United States. We consider this
- 15:29Speaker 4: blockade and this D-Day from Besson, we consider these to
- 15:34Speaker 4: be acts of war. And we reserve the right to
- 15:37Speaker 4: respond violently. And I think that's the real question. Do
- 15:42Speaker 4: they do that? And have we... through our many decapitations,
- 15:48Speaker 4: put enough hardliners in place that the ones arguing for
- 15:51Speaker 4: that are going to do it. And if they do it,
- 15:53Speaker 4: what does that look like? More attacks on American bases,
- 15:57Speaker 4: attacks on Gulf infrastructure, or attacks on Israel? We don't
- 16:01Speaker 4: know exactly. Or do they start hitting some of these
- 16:04Speaker 4: shuttle boats and shut down the shuttle trade? we don't know,
- 16:09Speaker 4: but you're right that the pressure is on them.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Yes. The ball's in their court. Obviously, the more that
- 16:16Speaker 1: there's no major munitions flying, it's actually on the side
- 16:19Speaker 1: of the United States because we're not expending our munitions.
- 16:22Speaker 1: We're sitting there. We're marshalling this international coalition. The Gulf guys,
- 16:25Speaker 1: they desperately want their oil out of there.
- 16:27Speaker 3: They need to make money.
- 16:29Speaker 1: And so for them, basically, the gamble that they're making
- 16:33Speaker 1: is that they're just going to sit there and they're
- 16:34Speaker 1: going to take it. And I mean, no country on
- 16:36Speaker 1: Earth is just going to sit there. and take it.
- 16:38Speaker 1: By the way, meanwhile, in terms of the messaging that's
- 16:40Speaker 1: going out, we just wanted to give you a taste
- 16:42Speaker 1: of potentially our next White House press secretary, Scott Jennings,
- 16:45Speaker 1: talking about how all of this shows we won the war.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
- 16:48Speaker 5: And I believe this announcement may confirm something that many
- 16:52Speaker 5: in our political class refuse to acknowledge. The United States
- 16:56Speaker 5: has won the war against Iran. Wars are won when
- 17:01Speaker 5: one side achieves its strategic objectives and and the other
- 17:05Speaker 5: loses the ability to achieve its own. Iran entered this
- 17:09Speaker 5: war with four great pillars of strength, its nuclear program,
- 17:13Speaker 5: its missiles and drones, its regional terror network, and its
- 17:17Speaker 5: ability to hold the world economy hostage through the Strait
- 17:21Speaker 5: of Hormuz. Every one of those pillars has been severely
- 17:26Speaker 5: damaged or outright destroyed.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Severely damaged or outright destroyed, as we just did an
- 17:31Speaker 1: entire segment about how even our victory six months into
- 17:35Speaker 1: the war is that the Gulf Arab allies, driven by
- 17:39Speaker 1: desperation to fund their countries, are able to get roughly 40%
- 17:43Speaker 1: to 50% of their oil traffic out of the strait. Yeah,
- 17:46Speaker 1: doesn't look like victory to me. Which leads us to
- 17:52Speaker 1: our next part. Let's put this one up here on
- 17:53Speaker 1: the screen. This is from the Wall Street Journal, one
- 17:57Speaker 1: of their longer retrospectives that they're doing. The warnings that
- 18:01Speaker 1: came before a war now reaching the six-month mark. And
- 18:05Speaker 1: I believe we will hit that mark two days from
- 18:07Speaker 1: now on Friday. February 28th is when the entire thing
- 18:10Speaker 1: kicked off.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Here's what they say.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Days before going to war with Iran in February, President
- 18:15Speaker 1: Trump summoned his intelligence chief to the Oval Office to
- 18:18Speaker 1: ask whether a full-on assault was a good idea. Iran
- 18:21Speaker 1: was at its weakest point in decades. Israeli Prime Minister
- 18:25Speaker 1: Benjamin Netanyahu had told him, providing Trump the rare opportunity
- 18:28Speaker 1: to dismantle the nuclear program and thus bolster his legacy
- 18:33Speaker 1: as a peacemaker. Then-Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard outlined
- 18:37Speaker 1: assessments from America's intelligence apparatus. She told Trump, killing Iran's
- 18:42Speaker 1: supreme leader would usher in a more hardline regime open
- 18:45Speaker 1: to acquiring nuclear weapons. True. True.
- 18:48Speaker 3: True.
- 18:49Speaker 1: True.
- 18:49Speaker 3: True. The notes of caution echoed.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Warnings Trump was receiving from all corners. Trump's top military
- 19:09Speaker 1: officials had told the president a war would lead to
- 19:11Speaker 1: casualties and major concerns about weapons stockpiles and readiness problems
- 19:15Speaker 1: for an overstretched force. And then Trump decided to order
- 19:19Speaker 1: that attack on February 28th. What's even more interesting, actually, here,
- 19:25Speaker 1: are what they talk about with General Kane. And so
- 19:27Speaker 1: this is where I want to reserve my most smoke for. Good. Okay,
- 19:31Speaker 1: all of the, you know, Tulsi, all right, I mean,
- 19:35Speaker 1: you did your job.
- 19:37Speaker 3: I see Reed's Dropsite News. Right, yeah. Watches this show.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Yeah, watches, maybe.
- 19:41Speaker 3: I mean, who even knows? But, okay, you did your job.
- 19:44Speaker 1: You spoke truth to power.
- 19:45Speaker 3: You didn't do shit else about it, and you left,
- 19:47Speaker 3: and still apparently on good terms. So whatever.
- 19:49Speaker 1: J.D., allegedly in the Situation Room, was the only person
- 19:53Speaker 1: who said, I really don't think you should do this,
- 19:55Speaker 1: but if you do, I guess I have to back you.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Those are the only two people who actually said anything,
- 20:00Speaker 1: even remotely, against it. Tucker Carlson, again, was in the Oval,
- 20:04Speaker 1: and he was like, I really don't think you should
- 20:05Speaker 1: do this. And Trump said, what did he say? He said,
- 20:07Speaker 1: it always works out.
- 20:08Speaker 4: Why do you think it's going to work out? Because
- 20:09Speaker 4: it always does.
- 20:10Speaker 3: It always does. Okay.
- 20:12Speaker 1: But here's what General Cain, and the reason, again, I'm
- 20:15Speaker 1: going to reserve all my smoke for General Cain, Hegseth,
- 20:17Speaker 1: all these other people, they're all Ultimately, they're in politics. Kaine,
- 20:21Speaker 1: by acts of Congress, his only job, he doesn't actually
- 20:24Speaker 1: command any forces. His only job is to provide unbiased
- 20:29Speaker 1: military opinion to the president of the United States. That
- 20:33Speaker 1: is literally his constitutionally mandated role, as described by Congress.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Here's what they say. General Kane and Admiral Cooper had
- 20:41Speaker 1: briefed the president several times on plans to strike targets, etc. However,
- 20:46Speaker 1: despite the warnings, Hegseth and Kane replied on multiple occasions
- 20:51Speaker 1: they would navigate any complications and that they would be
- 20:55Speaker 1: able to deliver the victory that Trump had promised. And so, again,
- 20:59Speaker 1: it's one thing for the SecDef to say it. We
- 21:01Speaker 1: all know he's an idiot.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Sure.
- 21:03Speaker 1: But Kane backing up the secretary of defense. not providing
- 21:07Speaker 1: unbiased information. And remember, too, there was all kinds of
- 21:11Speaker 1: a psyop that was happening in the immediate days of
- 21:13Speaker 1: the war.
- 21:13Speaker 3: They're like, oh, Kane.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Told him not to do it.
- 21:16Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
- 21:16Speaker 1: And actually, I even reported some of that at the time.
- 21:19Speaker 3: I said, no, he didn't. He was very muted in
- 21:22Speaker 3: what he said. And now.
- 21:23Speaker 1: What they're even saying is that in reality, what he
- 21:27Speaker 1: really did is that he provided a lot of the
- 21:30Speaker 1: cover to Secretary Hegseth and to Donald Trump's mind as
- 21:33Speaker 1: to why actually it was all going to work out okay.
- 21:36Speaker 1: So if you want to say, you know, for recriminations,
- 21:38Speaker 1: when the time comes, Cain needs to be up there very,
- 21:41Speaker 1: very high on the list. I mean, he needs to
- 21:42Speaker 1: go up there in infamy with General Taylor from Vietnam,
- 21:46Speaker 1: with any of the other, you know, genuinely, like any
- 21:50Speaker 1: of the chairmen of the Joint Chiefs, Ironically enough, H.R. McMaster,
- 21:54Speaker 1: who was Trump's national security advisor, first term wrote a
- 21:56Speaker 1: whole book about it, which is actually quite good, about
- 21:58Speaker 1: how the entire chairman staff failed Johnson on Vietnam. They
- 22:02Speaker 1: never told him any of the truth. And Cain, who
- 22:04Speaker 1: I know has read the book because it's like required
- 22:06Speaker 1: reading in military cycles, comes out and repeats the entire thing.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Total sycophant.
- 22:12Speaker 4: And the one regret I have about the fact that
- 22:15Speaker 4: we never got the kind of parade of lies to
- 22:19Speaker 4: push us into the war that we got with Iraq—
- 22:22Speaker 4: is that because of that, we don't have many or
- 22:27Speaker 4: almost any public records from these people of where they
- 22:31Speaker 4: stood before the war.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Like with Wolfowitz, for instance, we know.
- 22:36Speaker 4: That he said it would be a cakewalk because he
- 22:38Speaker 4: said it in front of Congress with the cameras rolling.
- 22:42Speaker 3: So that gets to live in infamy.
- 22:44Speaker 4: And it bought us this 20 years of being like, well,
- 22:48Speaker 4: let's not start any new wars. It didn't end the
- 22:51Speaker 4: forever wars, but at least it took until Trump to
- 22:55Speaker 4: start another giant war. We don't have any clips of
- 22:58Speaker 4: Cain talking publicly. All we have is reporting from The Times,
- 23:01Speaker 4: reporting from the journal, your reporting, and his own spin
- 23:07Speaker 4: at the time of saying, no, no, I said a
- 23:10Speaker 4: lot about the material issues limitations of of our capacity
- 23:15Speaker 4: at the moment and that you know trump should be
- 23:17Speaker 4: concerned that was the thing that kane's people were trying
- 23:20Speaker 4: to spin in the media that no he said we
- 23:22Speaker 4: we got to be careful about our stocks and munitions
- 23:24Speaker 4: it's you know we're not sure that we really have
- 23:28Speaker 4: everything in the barrel that we're going to need to
- 23:31Speaker 4: to do this when behind closed doors to talking to
- 23:36Speaker 4: this guy who was you know really itching to do
- 23:39Speaker 4: this He's saying, we got you, boss. Don't worry about
- 23:43Speaker 4: the naysayers. These same naysayers who told you that you
- 23:47Speaker 4: couldn't swoop in and grab Maduro and his wife in
- 23:50Speaker 4: the middle of the night and you went and did it, sir.
- 23:51Speaker 4: You know, we are going to make sure that, OK, yeah,
- 23:56Speaker 4: maybe what Netanyahu is saying is a little bit over
- 23:58Speaker 4: the top. But, you know, and certainly there are going
- 24:01Speaker 4: to be some problems. But we got this greatest military
- 24:03Speaker 4: in the world, sir.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Exactly. And, you know, at the same time, just to
- 24:07Speaker 1: show you kind of where things are, let's put the
- 24:09Speaker 1: next one up here on the screen. It appears now
- 24:12Speaker 1: that the U.S. State Department is basically offering $ 10 million.
- 24:16Speaker 3: This is very war on terror-esque.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Offering $ 10 million bounties for information on key IRGC leaders,
- 24:24Speaker 1: including the new supreme leader. And so they basically have
- 24:27Speaker 1: a list here of all of the top leaders from
- 24:30Speaker 1: the IRGC and of Iran. saying, hey, anybody will pay
- 24:35Speaker 1: you $ 10 million to give us information. The reason why
- 24:38Speaker 1: I'm putting these two things together is they are now
- 24:41Speaker 1: offering $ 10 million of bounty for information, obviously, for potential
- 24:45Speaker 1: assassination purposes, because all of these people are now in
- 24:49Speaker 1: power because of the operation. It fulfills the exact promise
- 24:53Speaker 1: or the exact prediction that was made, apparently, by the U.S.
- 24:56Speaker 1: intelligence community. You and I have a lot of smoke
- 24:58Speaker 1: in for the intelligence community, but even they apparently were like, wow,
- 25:01Speaker 1: the Israelis are just blankered liars whenever it comes to
- 25:05Speaker 1: their prescriptions about how this entire thing is going to go.
- 25:08Speaker 1: And we cover the day-to-day over and over again, but
- 25:12Speaker 1: the how we got here is vitally important because every
- 25:14Speaker 1: single one of these people is still in power. Tulsi aside,
- 25:17Speaker 1: I mean, the new DNI is equally as much of
- 25:20Speaker 1: an idiot and sycophant. General Kane is still running the war.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Secretary Hegseth is still running the war. I mean, all
- 25:26Speaker 1: of these people, they're horrible judgment. And if anything, as
- 25:29Speaker 1: we've seen many times in history, they only have even
- 25:31Speaker 1: more of an incentive to double down on their previously
- 25:34Speaker 1: bad advice to cover up how much of a disaster
- 25:36Speaker 1: it's been.
- 25:37Speaker 4: And five of these 14, we don't even have photos of.
- 25:41Speaker 4: In the pictures, it's like, what an incredible collapse of
- 25:45Speaker 4: our intelligence and our ability to have any eyes on
- 25:49Speaker 4: the ground inside of Iran, a country of 90 million
- 25:53Speaker 4: people with like It's six to seven major ethnicities, which
- 25:57Speaker 4: makes it much more able to be penetrated where the
- 26:00Speaker 4: Israelis are everywhere. Like they're not sharing the Facebook photos
- 26:05Speaker 4: that they have of these guys. And of the 14,
- 26:06Speaker 4: they're like a bunch of gray bearded bureaucrats. You think
- 26:09Speaker 4: they don't have gray bearded bureaucrats who can take their
- 26:12Speaker 4: place if we go in and assassinate them?
- 26:14Speaker 3: Like we're going to assassinate. Mojitaba coming in?
- 26:19Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, apparently the new cope is that he's
- 26:21Speaker 1: actually dead. Well, whether he's dead or not, the people
- 26:25Speaker 1: who are running the country in his name, they seem
- 26:27Speaker 1: to have a hell of a better idea on how
- 26:29Speaker 1: to do it than his father did.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Or our folks do.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Him being dead or brain dead is probably the best
- 26:34Speaker 1: case scenario for all of it. Just be a convenient
- 26:37Speaker 1: figurehead and they can run the country. in his name, likely,
- 26:41Speaker 1: almost certainly to continue now for many, many years. OK,
- 26:44Speaker 1: let's get to the next 200 years. He certainly will.
- 26:46Speaker 3: All right.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Let's get to Canada.
- 26:50Speaker 4: President Donald Trump has come back with the ultimate rebuttal
- 26:55Speaker 4: in his trade war with Canada.
- 26:56Speaker 3: He's going to rename Lake Ontario, Lake America. Look out.
- 27:02Speaker 4: In any event, here we have the Canadian Minister of Finance,
- 27:07Speaker 4: I love this, Francois-Philippe Champagne, with what the Canadian response
- 27:13Speaker 4: to the US trade war is going to be.
- 27:15Speaker 6: On August 22nd, the United States of America imposed tariffs
- 27:21Speaker 6: on 50% on approximately $ 28 billion in Canadian goods. Those
- 27:27Speaker 6: tariffs will have real consequences for Canadian workers, businesses, communities
- 27:34Speaker 6: across our nation. Canada must respond and today we are
- 27:40Speaker 6: in a proportionate, targeted and strategic way. Today I'm announcing
- 27:47Speaker 6: that Canada will match the United States tariffs dollar for dollar,
- 27:51Speaker 6: rate for rate. Effective September 8, Canada will impose counter
- 27:57Speaker 6: tariffs of up to 15, 25 or 50 percent on
- 28:02Speaker 6: 27.6 billion in imports from the United.
- 28:05Speaker 3: States of America.
- 28:07Speaker 6: For each product, our tariff would match the American tariff
- 28:11Speaker 6: on the same type of Canadian good.
- 28:15Speaker 4: And the Canadians said that they're trying to target with
- 28:17Speaker 4: precision states that voted for Trump. And so if you
- 28:22Speaker 4: live in one of those states, they're going after particular
- 28:24Speaker 4: products made in those states because they know they don't
- 28:27Speaker 4: have the capacity to kind of break the back or
- 28:29Speaker 4: break the economy of the entire United States.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Because they're not big enough. But they can make.
- 28:34Speaker 4: Things very difficult for particular towns and cities in states
- 28:39Speaker 4: that voted for Trump. Trump, however, has got your back.
- 28:43Speaker 4: And here's how he's going to do it. Put up
- 28:45Speaker 4: B1 here. Donald Trump on Truth Social. The United States
- 28:49Speaker 4: is giving serious consideration... to changing the name of Lake
- 28:52Speaker 4: Ontario to Lake America, in that we don't expect to
- 28:56Speaker 4: be doing much business with Ontario any longer.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Trump.
- 29:02Speaker 4: And of course, he also posted a little image, a
- 29:05Speaker 4: little AI rendition, where he X's out Lake Ontario and
- 29:12Speaker 4: replaces it with Lake America.
- 29:15Speaker 3: America.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Now we can, with B3, we can roll through some
- 29:19Speaker 4: of the, the specifics here. So Canada is talking about,
- 29:23Speaker 4: you know, Trump is saying that he was going to
- 29:25Speaker 4: move tariffs on Canadian vehicles up to 50%. So Canada
- 29:30Speaker 4: has come back and saying, okay, well then we're going to,
- 29:33Speaker 4: we're going to push tariffs on Canadian vehicles back up
- 29:38Speaker 4: to 50%. It's a, kind of a crisis situation where
- 29:42Speaker 4: you have the auto workers in both states, and the
- 29:47Speaker 4: United Auto Workers represent auto workers in Canada and the U.S.,
- 29:52Speaker 4: and you have the auto executives begging him not to
- 29:55Speaker 4: do this. So the industry that he's fighting for is
- 29:59Speaker 4: pleading with him not to do this.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Uh, he's saying he's going to do it anyway.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Uh, before Honda, which I think like what five of
- 30:09Speaker 4: their five, like five of the American made five of.
- 30:11Speaker 3: The top 10, like vehicles.
- 30:13Speaker 1: It's one of the top sellers in the United States.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:15Speaker 4: And it made in the United States too. And made
- 30:17Speaker 4: in North America.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Many of them are made in America.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Like they, they invested.
- 30:20Speaker 4: Very heavily in creating, uh, supply chains and factories in
- 30:25Speaker 4: the U S and Canada, uh.
- 30:27Speaker 3: Not out of the goodness of their heart, by the way,
- 30:29Speaker 3: because we forced them to do so. We forced them
- 30:31Speaker 3: to do so. We forced them to do it. And
- 30:32Speaker 3: so they're saying we might.
- 30:33Speaker 4: Have to raise prices because their supply chains run back
- 30:36Speaker 4: and forth across the border.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Right. I can explain this, actually.
- 30:40Speaker 3: This is part of it.
- 30:41Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to say at the top, like, obviously,
- 30:44Speaker 1: and this is, look, Canadians, you're going to get mad,
- 30:46Speaker 1: but it is actually true. NAFTA was a disaster for us.
- 30:49Speaker 1: It wasn't for you. It worked out real well for you.
- 30:52Speaker 1: A lot of our manufacturing plants in Detroit and throughout
- 30:55Speaker 1: the United States moved to Canada and to Mexico, either
- 30:58Speaker 1: for labor arbitrage purposes or for various other access to resources.
- 31:02Speaker 3: I get it.
- 31:02Speaker 1: I don't blame a multinational for doing that, for taking advantage,
- 31:05Speaker 1: but it did not work out for our working class.
- 31:08Speaker 1: The way that the cars are made right now is
- 31:10Speaker 1: basically NAFTA plus USMCA, which means that many of these cars,
- 31:14Speaker 1: and this is what Honda is talking about, the parts
- 31:16Speaker 1: in the car in some cases can move across the
- 31:19Speaker 1: border up to 10 to 15 times. I'm exaggerating, it
- 31:21Speaker 1: may not always be that much, but various different types
- 31:24Speaker 1: of the car, once it's finally assembled in the United States,
- 31:27Speaker 1: there are parts in it that come from all over
- 31:29Speaker 1: the world, but particularly move back and forth for machine purposes,
- 31:32Speaker 1: manufacturing purposes, that eventually make their way into the Honda vehicle,
- 31:36Speaker 1: which you eventually purchase in the United States. Honda does
- 31:39Speaker 1: this because that's the way that NAFTA and USMCA set
- 31:43Speaker 1: out the law. They said there won't be any tariffs
- 31:45Speaker 1: that are on those. Again, I don't support this system.
- 31:47Speaker 1: I don't think it should be that way, but it
- 31:49Speaker 1: is what it is. this point so then when the
- 31:51Speaker 1: tariff comes into effect what ends up happening with the
- 31:55Speaker 1: way that Trump is doing it is it would increase
- 31:58Speaker 1: the cost every time that thing moves across the border
- 32:01Speaker 1: that's why the car manufacturers are freaking out because that
- 32:05Speaker 1: would raise the imminent cost of them if you have
- 32:07Speaker 1: to pay that cost even once or imagine ten times
- 32:10Speaker 1: that explodes the cost of the increment right on the
- 32:14Speaker 1: actual part also from what I understand But car makers
- 32:17Speaker 1: know this shit's not actually gonna last. So most of
- 32:20Speaker 1: the time, they'll just keep it in Canada. They're like, look,
- 32:22Speaker 1: we're just gonna wait for the taco, and then we'll
- 32:24Speaker 1: move it across the border that time. But obviously, what
- 32:26Speaker 1: does that do? Now production has to shut down. Now
- 32:28Speaker 1: you're gonna not meet quotas. All kinds of insanity whenever
- 32:32Speaker 1: it comes to the vehicle tariff. I mean, even right now,
- 32:35Speaker 1: Trump said he was going to double the tariff to 50%
- 32:39Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the Civic sedan, for example. Honda
- 32:43Speaker 1: currently assembles the Civic in Canada. It's the second largest
- 32:47Speaker 1: vehicle manufacturer by volume. And so a lot of that
- 32:50Speaker 1: is eventually sold here in the United States. Again, I
- 32:53Speaker 1: don't want to give the Canadians too much credit because
- 32:56Speaker 1: when— and this has happened under Biden, so this isn't just
- 32:59Speaker 1: TDS or anything— Under Biden, you can go and read
- 33:03Speaker 1: the headlines. There were all of these Made in America
- 33:05Speaker 1: provisions for the EV manufacturing credits. The Canadians were lobbying
- 33:10Speaker 1: the hell.
- 33:10Speaker 3: Out of the government.
- 33:11Speaker 1: They're like, how can you do this to us? You
- 33:13Speaker 1: can't just make it in your country. You need to
- 33:15Speaker 1: make it in ours. We're like, no, we want to
- 33:16Speaker 1: make it in our country. The Canadians were furious with
- 33:20Speaker 1: Biden and even more so under Donald Trump. So it's
- 33:23Speaker 1: kind of a years-long story. Same thing happened in Europe.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I get it. They're looking out for their interests. I
- 33:28Speaker 1: think we should look out.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Now, is this the way I would handle our relationship
- 33:31Speaker 3: with Canada?
- 33:32Speaker 1: No.
- 33:32Speaker 3: As I said, I don't have any great love for Canada.
- 33:35Speaker 1: But what we can see here is even if you
- 33:38Speaker 1: were to support this in a vacuum, which is true,
- 33:41Speaker 1: Canada needs us a lot more than we need them.
- 33:43Speaker 3: We still need them.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Major top trading partner to launch this at a time
- 33:48Speaker 1: of massive inflation and to do it. in such a
- 33:52Speaker 1: manner where the Canadian population is much better positioned.
- 33:57Speaker 3: To absorb the price increase.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Yes, put this up here while I'm talking about it,
- 34:01Speaker 1: is that their population is 100% united.
- 34:05Speaker 3: They're like a war footing. They don't care.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, all right, we're going to pay more
- 34:09Speaker 1: for Tim Hortons.
- 34:10Speaker 3: We'll eat grass.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Yeah, as long as he's free. It was like, so
- 34:14Speaker 1: be it. We'll sit there and we're going to take it.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Are we going to sit there and are we going
- 34:18Speaker 1: to take it? While you're paying... What's the gas price today?
- 34:21Speaker 3: Let me check. $ 4.
- 34:22Speaker 1: 10 on average per gasoline? That's like Well, we're sitting
- 34:28Speaker 1: here paying high gas, high grocery, and all this other stuff.
- 34:31Speaker 1: They obviously have their own problems, but we're the aggressor.
- 34:35Speaker 1: And if we're going to be the aggressor, the whole
- 34:36Speaker 1: population has to be on our side. And nobody's on
- 34:38Speaker 1: their side. They don't care about this at this time. Again,
- 34:41Speaker 1: in a vacuum, sure, whatever. You can make a case,
- 34:44Speaker 1: et cetera. Even then, you wouldn't probably want to do
- 34:47Speaker 1: like a back and forth type of trade war on again,
- 34:50Speaker 1: off again. be extremely incendiary. And what you're watching effectively
- 34:55Speaker 1: is that the Canadian government, right and left, is totally
- 34:59Speaker 1: united against the United States. I mean, Doug Ford is
- 35:02Speaker 1: like a national hero in Canada for all of this, like,
- 35:05Speaker 1: kiss my ass stuff. And what you're watching is on
- 35:08Speaker 1: our side, nobody wants to pay any of these higher tariffs,
- 35:12Speaker 1: also because They don't even think it's going to be
- 35:13Speaker 1: paired with a bigger manufacturing push, which now we've had
- 35:17Speaker 1: tariffs for over a year. We know it's not leading
- 35:19Speaker 1: to that, especially because of downward pressure from the overall economy.
- 35:22Speaker 1: The diesel price plus the tariff, a lot of these
- 35:25Speaker 1: manufacturers are dead in the United States if this continues.
- 35:28Speaker 4: And it's also a bit of a sideshow given that
- 35:32Speaker 4: electric vehicles in the next decade or whatever are going
- 35:35Speaker 4: to sweep the entire country.
- 35:36Speaker 3: It It would be sort of like- I don't know
- 35:38Speaker 3: if it will here.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I think that they'll put so much protectionism on gas that- Maybe. Also, look,
- 35:44Speaker 1: I've got to save my smoke for the American consumer.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Dodge was out here bragging about the Dodge Ram being
- 35:50Speaker 1: the number one seller in the country. There are guys
- 35:54Speaker 1: out there taking out 9% interest car loans over 48 months,
- 35:59Speaker 1: buying $ 80, 000 souped up trucks for literally no reason. And
- 36:04Speaker 1: so there is a part of that in the American heart,
- 36:06Speaker 1: which will never go away.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Maybe that's right. Right. I look at it as.
- 36:12Speaker 4: Two different countries competing over the manufacturing of horse and
- 36:15Speaker 4: buggies in 1905.
- 36:18Speaker 3: It's a fair point.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Gas is always going to be part of our market.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, and you're right that just the construction
- 36:25Speaker 4: of our lives and the suburban nature of it and
- 36:28Speaker 4: the cultural attachment to the gas guzzlers is going to
- 36:34Speaker 4: override pure economics.
- 36:36Speaker 3: We'll see. But you're right. We if you were going
- 36:41Speaker 3: to redesign the system, you would renegotiate it. Like, sit down.
- 36:44Speaker 4: You know, Trump had the USMCA that he agreed to. Like,
- 36:49Speaker 4: if he wanted a different trade policy, the massive trade
- 36:53Speaker 4: negotiation that was underway was, like, the place to do it. This, like,
- 36:58Speaker 4: ad hoc scattershot tariff war that he likes to do is, yeah, like,
- 37:05Speaker 4: because they don't expect it to stick, it doesn't have
- 37:08Speaker 4: the effect. You're right that The reason that Honda is
- 37:12Speaker 4: here is because of U.S.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Tariffs and because of U.S.
- 37:15Speaker 4: Trade policy and also just enormous amounts of kind of,
- 37:20Speaker 4: it bordered into xenophobic, anti-Japanese.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Right.
- 37:24Speaker 1: So the game that everybody knows about the Japanese.
- 37:26Speaker 3: But it was long. It was a long game. Right.
- 37:28Speaker 1: And so what happened is post-1970s after the, you know,
- 37:32Speaker 1: actually Trump was all over Oprah talking about how bad
- 37:35Speaker 1: Japan was. He had a point actually at the time
- 37:37Speaker 1: because of the undercutting of our market. The deal the
- 37:40Speaker 1: Japanese made throughout the 80s and 90s, especially post-NAFTA, is
- 37:44Speaker 1: we were like, look, we know everybody wants your cars.
- 37:47Speaker 3: They're cheaper.
- 37:47Speaker 1: They're better than ours. You just got to build them here.
- 37:50Speaker 1: The Japanese are like, we don't really want to, but
- 37:52Speaker 1: I guess.
- 37:52Speaker 3: All right, we'll do it.
- 37:53Speaker 1: And so what I've heard from more recently is inside Japan...
- 37:57Speaker 1: Their belief is that they would have been better off
- 38:00Speaker 1: in the long run just making them Japan and shipping
- 38:02Speaker 1: and paying the tariff. They're sick of building here. They
- 38:06Speaker 1: hate American work culture. They hate most of the states.
- 38:10Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. They hate American work culture. They hate
- 38:14Speaker 1: the government. They think they would have been better off
- 38:18Speaker 1: just building the cars in Japan and paying whatever the
- 38:21Speaker 1: variable tariff.
- 38:23Speaker 3: Would have been. And let Ford deal with these American workers.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Let Ford deal with all this bullshit and the state
- 38:27Speaker 1: of Michigan government, right? Because in Japan, when the CEO
- 38:30Speaker 1: of Honda needs something, the Japanese prime minister is like,
- 38:32Speaker 1: what do you need? All right, here you go.
- 38:34Speaker 3: They're like, oh, you want $ 100 billion? Here's $ 200.
- 38:35Speaker 1: You know, make sure that it works out.
- 38:38Speaker 3: It's not how it works here, right?
- 38:39Speaker 1: So... Basically, look, the TLDR is that while I do
- 38:43Speaker 1: think we have major structural problems in our trade with Canada,
- 38:46Speaker 1: the way that this has been done, especially the whole
- 38:48Speaker 1: Lake America, I'm like, my God, do you have any
- 38:50Speaker 1: original ideas? Sure, it was funny on the first day,
- 38:53Speaker 1: Gulf of America and all that. We can all start
- 38:56Speaker 1: looking at maps and why Gulf of Mexico is actually
- 38:58Speaker 1: a Spanish colonial name. It's actually quite woke to rename
- 39:01Speaker 1: it Gulf of America.
- 39:02Speaker 3: That's right, yeah. I support that. It actually is.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It's like, why should we be using a
- 39:06Speaker 1: Spanish colonial name? Yeah. In reality, we all know, number one,
- 39:11Speaker 1: this is not going to lead to a better deal.
- 39:13Speaker 1: It will lead to chaos. It will lead to higher prices.
- 39:16Speaker 1: It will also lead to worsening relations with Canada, which
- 39:20Speaker 1: maybe we could have afforded pre-Iran war. I don't think
- 39:23Speaker 1: we could right now with our top trading partner. It's
- 39:25Speaker 1: part of a global isolation game. I will say, though,
- 39:28Speaker 1: with Canada, you know, their population wants to fight. But
- 39:34Speaker 1: remember Mark Carney gave that whole speech about neoliberalism and
- 39:38Speaker 1: and the standing.
- 39:39Speaker 3: Up in the window.
- 39:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:40Speaker 3: He's like, we're going to change everything.
- 39:42Speaker 1: And then immediately came back and backed Trump on the
- 39:45Speaker 1: Iran war and, and, you know, became like this NATO,
- 39:48Speaker 1: you know, obsessive. So they need to make up their
- 39:51Speaker 1: mind too. Like, what are you guys going to do?
- 39:53Speaker 1: I think we have to live together and we got
- 39:55Speaker 1: to work it out. But look, that's not really what
- 39:57Speaker 1: either of them, that's not, that's maybe what our population wants.
- 39:59Speaker 3: I'm not so sure what, that's what they want.
- 40:01Speaker 4: And meanwhile, China is like, Playing a lot of footsie
- 40:05Speaker 4: with Canada.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Totally. They have very different rules in Canada. A lot
- 40:08Speaker 1: of their Teslas have much more Chinese components from Giga Shanghai.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I think maybe 10% or so. A lot of them
- 40:14Speaker 1: are not even allowed to be sold here in the
- 40:15Speaker 1: United States. So they have very different rules and relations
- 40:18Speaker 1: with China and kind of their engagement with the rest
- 40:22Speaker 1: of the world. So they're doing a balancing act, which
- 40:25Speaker 1: they didn't previously used to have to do. They're mostly
- 40:27Speaker 1: on the side of the United States. It's certainly not
- 40:29Speaker 1: like that anymore. Speaking of China, let's get to China. Okay,
- 40:35Speaker 1: so as we were talking about speaking about China and
- 40:37Speaker 1: the way that they're navigating this entire situation, it's kind
- 40:40Speaker 1: of a boon to them, the entire Iran war, and
- 40:43Speaker 1: even the trade war, honestly. Let's put this up here
- 40:45Speaker 1: on the screen. It comes on the heels of Scott
- 40:48Speaker 1: Besson promising economic D-Day. And so how is China responding?
- 40:52Speaker 1: Let's take a look. China has vowed to protect its
- 40:55Speaker 1: interests after the U.S. announced plans to widen economic sanctions
- 40:59Speaker 1: against Iran and its trading partners. Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin
- 41:03Speaker 1: Zhan said that China was formally opposed to what it
- 41:06Speaker 1: called illegal unilateral sanctions and would take all necessary measures
- 41:11Speaker 1: to safeguard its rights. This comes after Scott Besant saying
- 41:14Speaker 1: that he will announce new measures warning any nation financially
- 41:18Speaker 1: partnering with Iran would be isolated. China buys 90 percent
- 41:22Speaker 1: of Iranian oil. And Lin said further, cooperation between China
- 41:27Speaker 1: and Iran has always been conducted within the framework of
- 41:29Speaker 1: international law and should not be interfered with or disrupted. Obviously,
- 41:34Speaker 1: Besson had said the single greatest financial offensive ever against
- 41:38Speaker 1: Iran and then proceeded to release absolutely zero details about
- 41:42Speaker 1: the entire thing. And so they're making it clear. And
- 41:46Speaker 1: this is part of why the D-Day thing, you and
- 41:47Speaker 1: I both know it's not even going to happen. If
- 41:49Speaker 1: we were going to target any, it's going to be
- 41:51Speaker 1: some small, piddly nation, which sends buys oil from Iran.
- 41:56Speaker 1: President Xi is coming to the United States, I think
- 41:59Speaker 1: next month, sometime in September. Are we really going to
- 42:03Speaker 1: center our entire relations with the second largest power on earth,
- 42:08Speaker 1: our number one trading partner, our number one unilateral trading
- 42:12Speaker 1: partner whenever it comes to China? Such enormous effect on
- 42:16Speaker 1: the global economy, on us, on our relations and all
- 42:19Speaker 1: that in Asia, which we've effectively abandoned.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Are we really going to do it?
- 42:23Speaker 1: It comes to Iran. And that's the thing too, even
- 42:26Speaker 1: if we did, would it work? I think the fact
- 42:28Speaker 1: that we did it to Russia, a second rate power
- 42:31Speaker 1: compared to China, that it didn't work entirely, that it
- 42:34Speaker 1: showed that their resilience to a sanction proof defectually financial
- 42:39Speaker 1: system and weapons manufacturing allowed them to prosper for the
- 42:42Speaker 1: entire time. So I think what we see with China
- 42:46Speaker 1: in this entire thing is that the Trump administration is
- 42:49Speaker 1: really in a bind because their rhetoric, as you said, remember, D-Day,
- 42:55Speaker 1: it's a term that has meaning, I think, in rhetoric,
- 42:58Speaker 1: rhetorical influence. D-Day is like all out of offense. It's
- 43:01Speaker 1: all out offense. We roll the dice and we go
- 43:05Speaker 1: all in and we're going to defeat. But if you
- 43:07Speaker 1: don't do that, that's humiliating. If you do do it,
- 43:10Speaker 1: it will be a disaster because we know that we
- 43:12Speaker 1: don't have the ability to actually compel their behavior on Iran,
- 43:15Speaker 1: which they have continued to support for the last six months.
- 43:19Speaker 1: If anything, sending them weapons, giving them lots of intelligence,
- 43:22Speaker 1: supporting their drone industry, and really bolstering their ability to
- 43:25Speaker 1: stand up against the United States.
- 43:26Speaker 4: And on your Russian point, CIA Director John Ratcliffe was
- 43:30Speaker 4: just in Moscow.
- 43:31Speaker 3: Flew there yesterday.
- 43:32Speaker 4: The reporting was, and maybe you've heard how accurate this
- 43:35Speaker 4: reporting is, is that One of the messages that he
- 43:37Speaker 4: conveyed was, we want you to sever ties with Iran.
- 43:42Speaker 4: And if you don't, we're going to do X, Y,
- 43:45Speaker 4: and Z. Russia relayed that to Iran, said, don't worry
- 43:48Speaker 4: about it. We're not going to do it. And the
- 43:50Speaker 4: threats that they made were not actually that serious. And
- 43:54Speaker 4: so that's Russia. Like, as you said, Russia is not China.
- 44:00Speaker 4: So I'm curious if you have any insight.
- 44:02Speaker 3: Into why it is.
- 44:06Speaker 4: That the Trump administration moves publicly forward with these ideas
- 44:13Speaker 4: that to any person just casually observing.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Are unworkable.
- 44:20Speaker 1: I think it just makes Trump feel good.
- 44:22Speaker 3: What does he love? Words.
- 44:24Speaker 1: We talked about Lake America. D-Day.
- 44:26Speaker 3: Great.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Besson walks in. Sir, economic D-Day.
- 44:29Speaker 3: And he doesn't realize there will be a week after
- 44:31Speaker 3: the week that he's living in now.
- 44:33Speaker 1: And then he's like, well, wait, hold on a second.
- 44:35Speaker 1: We can't actually do that. So you announce it, but
- 44:37Speaker 1: then nothing actually happens. Like I said, I mean, the
- 44:39Speaker 1: prestige to the empire is immense. I mean, if the
- 44:41Speaker 1: empire says D-Day, people should be like, oh, shit, like
- 44:44Speaker 1: we're about to get rocked. Except the Chinese are like, yeah, OK,
- 44:47Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Let's see.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Let's see how it works out for you. The Financial
- 44:51Speaker 1: Times actually wrote this up in a very good op-ed.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Let's put this up here on the screen. They talk specifically.
- 44:57Speaker 1: In the event, it seemed more like a series of
- 44:59Speaker 1: warning shots fired from far offshore. The campaign to turn
- 45:02Speaker 1: Iran into an economic outcast is, moreover, not even one
- 45:06Speaker 1: that the United States can fully accomplish on its own,
- 45:08Speaker 1: but requires cooperation with Tehran's trading partners, the biggest of
- 45:11Speaker 1: those China has signaled little intention to play ball. And
- 45:15Speaker 1: as Besson acknowledged, moving too quickly with U.S. secondary sanctions
- 45:19Speaker 1: that do not comply would blow up the global financial system.
- 45:23Speaker 1: And especially what they talk about here whenever it comes
- 45:26Speaker 1: to China. It says Beijing, which already buys 90% of
- 45:29Speaker 1: Iran oil, warned that if the U.S., it would retaliate
- 45:32Speaker 1: if Chinese companies were included. Any significant increase in U.S.
- 45:36Speaker 1: sanctions on China would then torpedo delicate trade negotiations only
- 45:40Speaker 1: a month before Trump and Xi are due to meet
- 45:43Speaker 1: in Washington. Even if the U.S. did manage to impose
- 45:47Speaker 1: a significant new economic pain on Iran, there is no
- 45:49Speaker 1: guarantee that it would even force Tehran's capitulation. After two years,
- 45:54Speaker 1: after two wars in the past year have damaged industrial
- 45:56Speaker 1: capacity and left inflation running at 80% to 90%, their
- 46:00Speaker 1: economy is in far deeper crisis than when Iran had
- 46:03Speaker 1: launched maximum pressure in 2018, but the regime is now
- 46:06Speaker 1: more hard-lined by the conflict, only increasing its defiance. And
- 46:10Speaker 1: so what they call, say here, is the China problem,
- 46:14Speaker 1: is basically there is no way to compel Chinese behavior,
- 46:18Speaker 1: which would not immediately have blowback on the United States,
- 46:22Speaker 1: which the Chinese is not going to do. And even
- 46:25Speaker 1: if they did do, it probably wouldn't work. And one
- 46:28Speaker 1: of the reasons, and I remember now, in retrospect, how
- 46:31Speaker 1: much criticism we took talking about here about those Russia sanctions.
- 46:36Speaker 1: Because I remember, and I said this, I said, if
- 46:38Speaker 1: you do this, you need to do it for something
- 46:41Speaker 1: which is actually vitally important to the United States. Because
- 46:45Speaker 1: by pulling it out, making Russia the most sanctioned economy
- 46:48Speaker 1: on earth, then you show your hand, you show exactly
- 46:52Speaker 1: the way that you can use the global financial system
- 46:54Speaker 1: to your advantage. And what if it doesn't work? And
- 46:57Speaker 1: we know now, four years later, it didn't work at all.
- 46:59Speaker 1: GDP is up in Russia. Missile production is up. Weapons
- 47:03Speaker 1: manufacturing is there. They're able to pay all of the widows.
- 47:06Speaker 1: They can take who knows what the real number is,
- 47:08Speaker 1: at the very least, hundreds of thousands of casualties and survive.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Their population is fine. There's still food on the shelf
- 47:14Speaker 1: in Moscow. Everybody's fine. In fact, some of them are
- 47:17Speaker 1: so rich they can fly to Thailand or whatever these
- 47:19Speaker 1: countries will take them. But then you look here at
- 47:22Speaker 1: China for the last four years is sitting there studying
- 47:25Speaker 1: the entire thing.
- 47:26Speaker 3: Oh, here's how the sanction worked. Here's how the bank is.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Here's how they implemented it. Here's what they did against Iran.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Here's what they did against Venezuela. They're just picking up
- 47:33Speaker 1: data points. Then they go in, because it's a nation
- 47:35Speaker 1: of bureaucrats, and they say, how do we make sure
- 47:38Speaker 1: this doesn't happen? How do we make sure that doesn't happen?
- 47:40Speaker 1: They've had so many years. And lo and behold, let's
- 47:42Speaker 1: put the next one up here on the screen, is
- 47:44Speaker 1: that China now says, quote, they need US dollars, but
- 47:48Speaker 1: is building a hedge against Washington sanctions. And what they
- 47:51Speaker 1: specifically laid out is that China's banks are now currently
- 47:55Speaker 1: in a position Where Beijing can reject the demand, even
- 47:59Speaker 1: though some of its biggest lenders still have a strong
- 48:01Speaker 1: incentive to preserve access to the dollar. Besant had actually
- 48:05Speaker 1: even said if they facilitate transactions that are part of
- 48:09Speaker 1: the ecosystem that turns Iranian oil into money, they will
- 48:13Speaker 1: be targeted. The Chinese, what they're doing is they have
- 48:17Speaker 1: internal mechanisms to use a different system of banking. It's
- 48:22Speaker 1: called the Chinese Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, which
- 48:27Speaker 1: allows it to diversify from dollar-centered finance without abandoning it altogether.
- 48:33Speaker 1: PRC built CIPS in 2012, which was apparently the first
- 48:37Speaker 1: year that they ever got sanctioned, and they now have
- 48:39Speaker 1: 12 years of experience actually using it. They also have
- 48:43Speaker 1: put in multiple different systems inside their own banks to
- 48:47Speaker 1: be able to trade on different.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Types of currency.
- 48:50Speaker 1: I know this is all very technical, but this is
- 48:52Speaker 1: the machinery and like the railroad, if you will, which
- 48:55Speaker 1: banking systems in China used to work. And they built
- 48:58Speaker 1: an alternative pathway to do deals with Russia and with.
- 49:00Speaker 3: Any other country that America doesn't want it to do.
- 49:03Speaker 1: They would prefer to use the primary one, but the
- 49:05Speaker 1: secondary one is there, battle tested and ready to go
- 49:08Speaker 1: if we were to put it against them.
- 49:09Speaker 4: CNBC notes the symmetry here that it was actually in 2012,
- 49:13Speaker 4: we sanctioned a small Chinese bank specifically for doing business
- 49:19Speaker 4: with a And that's why they built this parallel clearance project.
- 49:25Speaker 3: With all Obama.
- 49:26Speaker 4: Yeah, so that if we did that again, and it
- 49:29Speaker 4: goes back to that old saying, you know, if you
- 49:33Speaker 4: owe the bank a million dollars, the bank owns you.
- 49:37Speaker 4: If you owe the bank $ 40 trillion, you own the bank.
- 49:41Speaker 4: And it's like Besson needs to go back and reread his, like,
- 49:43Speaker 4: volume three of Marx's Capital, which talks about the way
- 49:47Speaker 4: that debt and leverage shape who has control over resources.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Because I think he's forgotten the way that this has unfolded.
- 49:55Speaker 4: That goes back to your point that anything that we
- 49:58Speaker 4: could do because they own the bank, they own us
- 50:03Speaker 4: because of our debt with them, our relationship with them,
- 50:06Speaker 4: it blows right up in their face. And so China
- 50:10Speaker 4: has announced, we will not take this lying down. You
- 50:14Speaker 4: can do D-Day if you want. But if you try
- 50:18Speaker 4: to storm our beaches, don't forget you're going to blow up.
- 50:22Speaker 3: All of your own treasury bonds.
- 50:24Speaker 1: We have guns. We can put your economy to the brink.
- 50:28Speaker 1: He even said, quote, we have our own tools and
- 50:31Speaker 1: we know how to play the game. We've been waiting
- 50:33Speaker 1: for these plans for a long time.
- 50:36Speaker 3: That's an ominous quote. Unlike us. We planned this last week.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Yes. And, oh, that was the last thing I wanted
- 50:42Speaker 1: to put on. up here I forgot to mention. Put
- 50:45Speaker 1: C4 up on the screen. Remember that we've been talking
- 50:48Speaker 1: about the only reason that the entire economy did not
- 50:52Speaker 1: implode as a result of oil prices was entirely because
- 50:56Speaker 1: China reduced its overall oil imports to a low which
- 51:00Speaker 1: we did not even think humanly possible. It remains the
- 51:03Speaker 1: reason why that oil continues to be relatively low, despite
- 51:08Speaker 1: the fact that there's been this major disruption. And if
- 51:10Speaker 1: you're watching our show, the chart in front of you
- 51:12Speaker 1: shows why. As you can see, exactly the number of
- 51:16Speaker 1: crude oil exports that sent to an all-time high where
- 51:20Speaker 1: you can see now is that they're beginning to climb
- 51:23Speaker 1: up back to levels that we haven't seen from the
- 51:26Speaker 1: very beginning in April and in May. And the reason
- 51:28Speaker 1: why that they're beginning to climb up is because it
- 51:31Speaker 1: says Asian buyers are snapping up U.S. crude, adding stress
- 51:36Speaker 1: to a tight market. And what it means is that
- 51:39Speaker 1: with very little oil coming out of the Strait of Hormuz,
- 51:42Speaker 1: then everybody has had to readjust and buy oil from
- 51:45Speaker 1: where it is available, in America, thanks to the shale revolution. Now, immediately,
- 51:50Speaker 1: some of this was being bought by Europe, by Japan,
- 51:53Speaker 1: and others. But what they point to here specifically is China,
- 51:56Speaker 1: and specifically that China is beginning to ramp up slightly
- 52:00Speaker 1: its overall buy. We're not even close to where we
- 52:02Speaker 1: are at normal levels. They still think the price is
- 52:05Speaker 1: too high. It's very clear that their electric grid capacity,
- 52:09Speaker 1: their EV reliance, and their overall strategic petroleum reserve bought
- 52:13Speaker 1: them a runway which nobody even thought possible. But as
- 52:17Speaker 1: Asian buyers run through their petroleum reserve, just like the
- 52:20Speaker 1: United States, eventually you're going to have to go out
- 52:22Speaker 1: and buy. And that's what sends the bid price up.
- 52:25Speaker 1: And so as we see right now with the Chinese,
- 52:28Speaker 1: they can use their own buying leverage to inflict maximum pain.
- 52:33Speaker 1: on the United States. They don't even have to necessarily
- 52:36Speaker 1: do it on sanctions. They could easily take a strategic
- 52:39Speaker 1: loss by buying oil at a very, very high price,
- 52:42Speaker 1: which would send demand skyrocketing in the United States.
- 52:46Speaker 3: And they could easily, if they just resumed.
- 52:48Speaker 1: To their buying where it was pre-war levels, they could
- 52:51Speaker 1: send gas prices here up to $ 5. 50 a gallon if
- 52:53Speaker 1: they wanted to, which would be a total disaster. I mean,
- 52:56Speaker 1: a monumental change, I think, politically. And not only same
- 52:59Speaker 1: with diesel, of which, of course, they also have their
- 53:01Speaker 1: own capacity. So I just wanted to flag that for everybody.
- 53:04Speaker 1: As the buys continue, and if they tick up even more,
- 53:07Speaker 1: that $ 4. 10 that we're seeing. I mean, every last two weeks,
- 53:11Speaker 1: every time I say something, I'm like, $ 4.
- 53:14Speaker 3: 02, $ 4.
- 53:15Speaker 1: 04, $ 4. 06. I was gone for a couple days, $ 4.
- 53:18Speaker 3: 10.
- 53:19Speaker 1: Just keeps on ticking up to where things are. And
- 53:22Speaker 1: there's not even any real bullets that are flying.
- 53:23Speaker 3: God save you if you need diesel. My God, yeah, actually, yeah.
- 53:27Speaker 1: I can see it.
- 53:28Speaker 3: In front of me, $ 5.
- 53:30Speaker 1: 62 a gallon. And diesel was at $ 3. 70 a gallon
- 53:33Speaker 1: a year ago for context. And has now been above
- 53:37Speaker 1: $ 5 a gallon for months.
- 53:40Speaker 4: And the proportion of Trump supporters who buy diesel versus gas.
- 53:44Speaker 3: Oh, it's got to be immense. Yeah.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Right. Like I said earlier about the idiot men out
- 53:50Speaker 1: there who live in suburbs who buy these diesel trucks.
- 53:52Speaker 3: I'm like, hope it was worth it, buddy.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Hope it was worth it so that you can use
- 53:56Speaker 1: it to move once every... four years or you buy
- 54:00Speaker 1: it with your friend's couch. Somewhere out there, there are
- 54:03Speaker 1: a lot of wives saying, I told you so. I
- 54:05Speaker 1: told you so. And she was right.
- 54:06Speaker 3: She bought a CRV.
- 54:07Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Robert Pape.