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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Welcome to the Prophecy Watchers podcast, The Week in Bible Prophecy.
- 0:11Speaker 2: You want to join with Billy cron here.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Welcome Billy Mondo. Good to see you man. How you doing.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I'm doing great, and I'm doing great because of the
- 0:19Speaker 2: topic we're going to discuss today, which is pretty awesome.
- 0:22Speaker 2: We're going to be talking about Billy's new book and
- 0:24Speaker 2: DVD series UFOs Aliens and the coming mass abduction. But
- 0:29Speaker 2: before we do that, one to remind everybody that Billy
- 0:32Speaker 2: is going to join us along with seventeen others, well
- 0:36Speaker 2: sixteen others since I'm one of them. Is eighteen of
- 0:38Speaker 2: us total in Orlando, Florida. So if you are around
- 0:41Speaker 2: and you want to get out of your cold maybe climate,
- 0:45Speaker 2: join us February twenty ninth through March third down in Orlando, Florida,
- 0:49Speaker 2: sunny Orlando where we're going to have the Orlando Prophecy
- 0:52Speaker 2: Summit Conference. It's going to be a great time, as
- 0:55Speaker 2: many of you have come to expect. It's so awesome,
- 0:59Speaker 2: Billy to have many people tell me, boy, it's like
- 1:02Speaker 2: a dream come true. I turn I turned down the
- 1:05Speaker 2: hallway and all of my favorite speakers are in one hallway.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's pretty amazing. You're gonna be there
- 1:11Speaker 2: for us, as we said, yeah, and you know we're
- 1:12Speaker 2: going to talk about yet.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Well, very possibly what we're talking about here today hot
- 1:17Speaker 3: topic of course, our latest SETI our latest documentary, and
- 1:20Speaker 3: dare I say, uh, it's ramping up in the news,
- 1:23Speaker 3: and so we need to revisit this and certainly get
- 1:28Speaker 3: a Christian perspective on it because I'm convinced it's a
- 1:31Speaker 3: major mega Bible prophecy. It's not just an eclectic topic. No, okay, right,
- 1:35Speaker 3: it's a major Bible prophecy topic.
- 1:36Speaker 2: You know. And and so at the conference Orlando Prophecy
- 1:39Speaker 2: simmit dot com check it out again. There's gonna be
- 1:41Speaker 2: eight hundred of us you can. We'll also have a
- 1:43Speaker 2: live stream option there of course, like we usually do.
- 1:46Speaker 2: But there's you know, this is one of the by
- 1:51Speaker 2: the way you said it is we know there's a
- 1:53Speaker 2: lot of different Bible prophecy topics converging.
- 1:56Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Again, I've talked a lot about the Red Hat for
- 1:58Speaker 2: Third Temple. We talked about Digital Cacilist Society, New world order.
- 2:04Speaker 2: But this really is one of the megatopics that needs
- 2:07Speaker 2: to be addressed because well let's talk about that. So here,
- 2:12Speaker 2: you know, again you put a lot of work into this.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Why did you spend the time to address it in
- 2:18Speaker 2: a prophetic basically paradigm.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Well, because I'm convinced it has everything to do with
- 2:22Speaker 3: Bible prophecy related issues and topics. Now again, it's called UFOs,
- 2:26Speaker 3: Aliens and the Coming mass Abduction. We titled it that way
- 2:30Speaker 3: on purpose, the coming mass subduction because the world will
- 2:34Speaker 3: look at it as a mass abduction, but the Bible
- 2:38Speaker 3: calls that evant the rapture. But that's why in the
- 2:41Speaker 3: raptures what a Bible prophecy related topic. But I'm convinced,
- 2:44Speaker 3: based on the research and my own personal experience prior
- 2:46Speaker 3: to becoming a Christian, that these things are demonic and
- 2:50Speaker 3: they have been slowly, methodically over decades, have been worked
- 2:56Speaker 3: upon to put a print into people's brains that when
- 3:00Speaker 3: you see a mass abduction, it was just the aliens
- 3:03Speaker 3: and UFOs, that that's what happened to your loved ones. No,
- 3:06Speaker 3: it was the rapture. And that's the first deception that
- 3:10Speaker 3: they are dealing with. But again the raptor is what
- 3:12Speaker 3: a Bible prophecy related topic. You look at also their
- 3:15Speaker 3: behavior and all they do is just tell lie after
- 3:18Speaker 3: lie after lie. All they do is come up on
- 3:19Speaker 3: the scene and they denounce the scripture that denounced biblical Christianity,
- 3:24Speaker 3: the biblical God, Jesus, even himself. They say there is
- 3:27Speaker 3: no need for salvation, there is no sin, blah blah
- 3:30Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And they also promote the anti Christ
- 3:32Speaker 3: kingdom and stuff of that nature, that we need to
- 3:35Speaker 3: submit to a global leader of wonder, world government, won
- 3:38Speaker 3: world economy to bring peace to the planet. Well, what's
- 3:40Speaker 3: that right, number one Jesus said Matthew twenty four speaking
- 3:44Speaker 3: of the time of the seven year tribulation. Watch out
- 3:46Speaker 3: that no one what deceives you. The first thing he
- 3:48Speaker 3: says before he talks about the wars and rumors of
- 3:50Speaker 3: wars and families and vesa, it's a time of great deceit.
- 3:53Speaker 3: That's what these guys do. So that's a Bible prophecy
- 3:55Speaker 3: related topic. Again, what are they coming here? They're telling
- 3:58Speaker 3: us to basically, in essence, support and work together to
- 4:00Speaker 3: build an anti Christ kingdom, submit to a global leader
- 4:03Speaker 3: and a one world government, one real religion. On well,
- 4:05Speaker 3: what's that. That's a Bible prophecy related aspect of the
- 4:08Speaker 3: anti Christ kingdom that's going to be implemented in the
- 4:11Speaker 3: Seven Year Tribulation, and on and on it goes. It
- 4:14Speaker 3: has everything to do with Bible prophecy, and so that's
- 4:19Speaker 3: why we deal with it because it's a scriptural issue.
- 4:23Speaker 2: I think too that as we you know, this has
- 4:26Speaker 2: been a fringe topic for a long time, and you know,
- 4:30Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist wackos whatever, blah blah blah, you know, a
- 4:33Speaker 2: very against small element and even in the secular world.
- 4:36Speaker 2: But there's a couple There's several things that I've seen
- 4:40Speaker 2: over over the past really ten fifteen years, and one
- 4:43Speaker 2: of them is again in my just following of the
- 4:47Speaker 2: astronomical community in the sense of, you know, being a
- 4:51Speaker 2: subscriber to Astronomy magazine and other things, that I was
- 4:54Speaker 2: shocked going back well probably twenty years. How so much
- 4:57Speaker 2: of the focus of astronomy now and research by NASA
- 5:01Speaker 2: and other groups, even the European groups, that the idea
- 5:05Speaker 2: of extral planets, the idea of even again now we
- 5:08Speaker 2: were talking in another context of people can get a
- 5:11Speaker 2: PhD in astrobiology because they're looking for evidence of life
- 5:16Speaker 2: on Mars. Biology on Mars, they're looking for biology or
- 5:20Speaker 2: microbes in the oceans of Europa, you know, a moon
- 5:25Speaker 2: of Jupiter in this regard where there's heat there. They're
- 5:28Speaker 2: so desperate to find any sort of life anywhere in
- 5:32Speaker 2: maybe vents in the ocean, vents, you know, deep in
- 5:35Speaker 2: the ocean. So that's one aspect of this whole astrobiology
- 5:38Speaker 2: effort to find life. And I want to talk about that. Well,
- 5:43Speaker 2: maybe let's talk about that now in the sense of
- 5:46Speaker 2: what's the premise here as relates to evolutionary mindset and
- 5:50Speaker 2: the other things that you've seen.
- 5:52Speaker 3: But it's based on the live evolution these guys. It's
- 5:54Speaker 3: not that there's a lack of the evidence for the
- 5:55Speaker 3: existence of God. They don't want there to be a God.
- 5:57Speaker 3: They want to follow their ungodly desires. They're willingly ignorant.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Are going to believe something dumb on purpose? And again,
- 6:02Speaker 3: dumb on purpose? What's that? Well, with all due respect,
- 6:04Speaker 3: how much dumber can you get? That we came from
- 6:06Speaker 3: the goo to the zoo to me and you? And
- 6:08Speaker 3: because you've got to go back as the issue of origins, right, well,
- 6:10Speaker 3: who made that goo? Well it rained on the rocks
- 6:12Speaker 3: for millions of years. Okay, well where'd the rock come from?
- 6:15Speaker 2: Well?
- 6:15Speaker 3: All you know. And so really a lot of reasons
- 6:18Speaker 3: why they are gravitating more towards it because it's basically
- 6:20Speaker 3: it's a replacement religion. UFOs and aliens. The whole premise
- 6:24Speaker 3: of them is a replacement religion based on the live
- 6:26Speaker 3: evolution to try to explain away God, the God of
- 6:30Speaker 3: the Bible and things that nature, that we came from
- 6:32Speaker 3: him and and but basically part of that is because
- 6:37Speaker 3: again they want to follow on godly desires. So that's
- 6:40Speaker 3: why they don't. They don't want there to be a God.
- 6:41Speaker 3: The other aspect, too, is the last many years, because
- 6:45Speaker 3: of the efforts of Christian scientists in the Christian creation
- 6:50Speaker 3: movement has been doing a very good job of bringing
- 6:54Speaker 3: out the evidence for intelligent design exactly that there's no
- 6:58Speaker 3: way that any of this came from the gou, to
- 7:00Speaker 3: the zoo, to me and you, that this is all designed. Well,
- 7:03Speaker 3: in the rebellion, they still don't want to be a god,
- 7:05Speaker 3: so aliens become that convenient excuse. Well, we didn't come
- 7:09Speaker 3: from God, because we all know that can't be true.
- 7:13Speaker 3: So if it wasn't from the good to the zoo
- 7:14Speaker 3: and you mean you mean you from some random chaotic event,
- 7:17Speaker 3: then it was the aliens pan spermia, pan spermia, And
- 7:20Speaker 3: so we actually have a section they're dealing with that
- 7:22Speaker 3: why pan sperm and how ridiculous that is because so those.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Might not pan spermia, pan is the Greek word for
- 7:28Speaker 2: all sperm is the idea of seed, So that we
- 7:33Speaker 2: were seeded, like you see, d ed from these other beings.
- 7:37Speaker 2: They're the advanced ones. They came here. How arend rezillion
- 7:40Speaker 2: millions of years ago, seated us? Started evolution, kickstarted it,
- 7:43Speaker 2: managed and watched it blah blah blah.
- 7:45Speaker 3: So go on, and now they're back to help us
- 7:48Speaker 3: in our time because we've gotten a little astray and
- 7:51Speaker 3: as our you know, original creators, they're here to help it. Yeah,
- 7:54Speaker 3: what a bunch of blooney. But again it's just made up,
- 7:56Speaker 3: Blowney's just like evolution. There's no evidence for this whatever.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Plus it doesn't solve the origin problem because oh so
- 8:02Speaker 3: we came from the aliens. And some people say that
- 8:03Speaker 3: they deliberately did it. Some say that they dumped their trash.
- 8:07Speaker 3: There's different theories on if you come across them from pants.
- 8:09Speaker 3: For they were flying across their atmosphere and they dump
- 8:12Speaker 3: their trash. Now that trash became the good to the
- 8:14Speaker 3: zoo to me and you, and they kicked started evolution
- 8:15Speaker 3: all at Bologney, or it was the deliberate thing that
- 8:18Speaker 3: they did, or they even heard some encounters that they
- 8:21Speaker 3: had the apes on the planet and then they sped
- 8:24Speaker 3: up the process with apes to create human you know,
- 8:26Speaker 3: all that Bolognia. There's no evidence for it. But the
- 8:27Speaker 3: point is, okay, so bare bones, let's go back to
- 8:30Speaker 3: the issue. If you say it's a straight up evolution.
- 8:34Speaker 3: We came from the good to the zoo and me
- 8:35Speaker 3: and you who made the goo, well rained on the
- 8:37Speaker 3: rocks from millions years. Okay, so we came from the rocks. Okay,
- 8:40Speaker 3: Well where'd the rock come from?
- 8:41Speaker 2: Uh?
- 8:42Speaker 3: They call that the X factor, which is a fancy
- 8:44Speaker 3: smanchy way of saying, we have no stinking idea, but.
- 8:46Speaker 2: We're going to fill in the gaps with our own and.
- 8:48Speaker 3: We'll just make it up. So but so panspermia, So
- 8:51Speaker 3: they get around the intelligent design. So they think it's
- 8:53Speaker 3: dumb on purpose, willingly ignorant of the evidence that when
- 8:56Speaker 3: you see design is something that applies to the designer
- 8:58Speaker 3: i e. God, not aliens. But anyway, the aliens don't
- 9:01Speaker 3: solve the problem. All they do is shove it further
- 9:03Speaker 3: down the line, because again, all you got to do
- 9:05Speaker 3: is logically use the brain that God gave you and say, well,
- 9:09Speaker 3: wait a second. So you say we came from the aliens,
- 9:11Speaker 3: all right? Who made those aliens? Well that was another
- 9:14Speaker 3: race of advanced aliens? All right? Well who made those aliens?
- 9:17Speaker 3: Well that was another. And all you do is just
- 9:20Speaker 3: keep going back. But at some point, who's the original alien?
- 9:22Speaker 3: Where they come from? You don't escape the ultimate issue, right,
- 9:26Speaker 3: Something cannot come from nothing. If there ever was a
- 9:30Speaker 3: time when we had nothing, then we would have nothing.
- 9:33Speaker 3: But we have something. So logically tells you we came
- 9:35Speaker 3: from somewhere i e.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Someone, And then I will say this, because this is
- 9:41Speaker 2: where logic people don't think anymore. Is if you go
- 9:44Speaker 2: back to the Middle Ages or even earlier, it goes
- 9:46Speaker 2: back to the unmoved mover. You know, the original this
- 9:50Speaker 2: is this is this goes again just Middle Ages people
- 9:53Speaker 2: are recognized to think through this, we had to come
- 9:57Speaker 2: from a being who is self existence, right, it just
- 9:59Speaker 2: has to be that way. Otherwise again we're we're nowhere.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Right well, and again that's the bare bone definitions of
- 10:04Speaker 3: a supreme being, even the secularists would have to mean,
- 10:07Speaker 3: if there is in fact a quote supreme being, what
- 10:10Speaker 3: makes them supreme above all? Well, they're everywhere present, right,
- 10:15Speaker 3: they're all knowing, they're all powerful, and they're self existent.
- 10:18Speaker 3: And he said, well, why is that so important? Well,
- 10:20Speaker 3: because if they were existent upon somebody else for the existence,
- 10:23Speaker 3: then they're not supreme then, right, So it's just pure logic, right,
- 10:27Speaker 3: pure logic, Yeah exactly, And dare I say common sense.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Common right, which hopefully is pure logical not anymore?
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But guess what the Bible tells us. Where
- 10:36Speaker 3: there was a time when there was nothing ex nahilo,
- 10:39Speaker 3: And out of that nothingness, because you can't have something
- 10:42Speaker 3: out of nothing, there was someone God who is self
- 10:45Speaker 3: existent above the time and space, and there was no time.
- 10:49Speaker 3: It's because in the beginning God, in the beginning time.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Time is a gredd thing. We know that scientifically, you
- 10:55Speaker 3: can you can slow down time, you could warp time
- 10:58Speaker 3: and do things of that nature, times of created thing.
- 11:00Speaker 3: Most people don't think of it that way, but it
- 11:02Speaker 3: is in the beginning time God created time and the
- 11:05Speaker 3: heaven space and the Earth matter time, space matter. And
- 11:09Speaker 3: that's the very first verse and the very first page
- 11:11Speaker 3: of the Bible. Good science, right, good logic right. So again,
- 11:14Speaker 3: God is the one that is where we came from.
- 11:16Speaker 3: But this all is a sidetrack issue to get people
- 11:20Speaker 3: to disbelieve in God, even though the evidence is overwhelming
- 11:25Speaker 3: that from I don't care to take a tree to
- 11:27Speaker 3: a flee to a bee to you and me, we
- 11:29Speaker 3: were intelligently designed. If I were to tell you that
- 11:31Speaker 3: my watch, I found my watch Mondo. I was driving
- 11:36Speaker 3: into the office and I saw on the ditch on
- 11:39Speaker 3: the side of the road. That's something caught there, gleam,
- 11:42Speaker 3: I caught and I stopped and what it was? A watch?
- 11:45Speaker 3: And I still work to this day. You know, maybe
- 11:47Speaker 3: about twelve moving parts, but you know where it came from.
- 11:51Speaker 3: It came from over millions of years of exploration and
- 11:54Speaker 3: wind and erosion. A lightning bolt struck it and out
- 11:58Speaker 3: spontaneous combustion when it came this watch. If I were
- 12:00Speaker 3: to actually say that, what would you say that's ridiculous. Right,
- 12:03Speaker 3: I'm never gonna listen to you again. You're a wacko. Right, Well,
- 12:06Speaker 3: that's a watch with twelve moving parts. You mean our
- 12:08Speaker 3: bodies with fifty trillion cells, with all of our organs
- 12:10Speaker 3: which all had to be there working all the same
- 12:11Speaker 3: time in order to fully function. Did and that ultimately,
- 12:15Speaker 3: when we listened to your version story, you trace it
- 12:17Speaker 3: down to not just the goo, but the good came
- 12:19Speaker 3: from where it rained on the we all came from rocks.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Come on to what basically say, don't be a rockhead.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Your chapter in there was was excellent and just talking
- 12:30Speaker 2: helping people to see again, this wasn't even your words.
- 12:33Speaker 2: You were just showing that the conversation by others necessarily
- 12:38Speaker 2: and the weight of it. For those that are willing,
- 12:41Speaker 2: that's willing, willing to consider the obvious facts and common sense,
- 12:46Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, okay, well.
- 12:47Speaker 3: And again that explains our society because when you look
- 12:49Speaker 3: at the evidence and I tell people, listen, I'm just saying,
- 12:53Speaker 3: are you really what I call it intellectually honest? If
- 12:58Speaker 3: you're intellectually honest, if you really wanted to know the
- 13:00Speaker 3: truth about anything, then you got to let the facts
- 13:03Speaker 3: speak for themselves, right, And so I tell people all
- 13:06Speaker 3: the time, if you're intellectually honest, then you got to
- 13:11Speaker 3: let the Bible speak for itself. Right. And then when
- 13:12Speaker 3: you let the Bible speak for itself, and then you
- 13:14Speaker 3: compare it to genuine science, not made up science, you
- 13:17Speaker 3: see that they work together because God doesn't tell a lie, right,
- 13:21Speaker 3: and so you and so then when you take a
- 13:24Speaker 3: look at the evidence in science that agrees with the
- 13:26Speaker 3: Biblical account, logic that agrees with the Biblical account, philosophy
- 13:30Speaker 3: that agrees with the Biblical account, then you can't just
- 13:34Speaker 3: downplay that, you can't ignore it. You're not being intellectually honest,
- 13:37Speaker 3: You're being dishonest. But the Bible says, you know what
- 13:40Speaker 3: you call that, you're willingly ignilliat. You have chosen to
- 13:43Speaker 3: believe something dumb on purpose, that we came from an
- 13:46Speaker 3: ape when there's no evidence of that, that we came
- 13:48Speaker 3: from the goo, that ultimately came from the rock. You
- 13:51Speaker 3: want to believe? Listen, who's got more faith here? I
- 13:54Speaker 3: believe in the evidence of intelligent design that God creates
- 13:57Speaker 3: just like the Bible, that.
- 13:57Speaker 2: We experience in real life all the timeactly.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Rather than that we all came from a rock and
- 14:04Speaker 3: by random I don't know X factor.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's not a set a cliche
- 14:11Speaker 2: that's wrong is that it takes more faith to believe
- 14:14Speaker 2: in uh. But again faith is evidence of things unseen, Right,
- 14:17Speaker 2: It takes more faith to believe in a system that
- 14:20Speaker 2: has been postulated that is unseen and are anything that
- 14:23Speaker 2: we experience that order comes from chaos, whether that's a soup,
- 14:28Speaker 2: a primorial soup, which is again there's no evidence for
- 14:30Speaker 2: where Again, no answers for where that came from.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me add this one little thing and
- 14:34Speaker 3: the reason why I think it's important to deal with this,
- 14:36Speaker 3: and we deal with this pretty much towards the beginning
- 14:38Speaker 3: and exposing the live evolution because again that's their premise
- 14:41Speaker 3: the heart all but stop and think about that, mando.
- 14:44Speaker 3: When did the live evolution begin to permeate the planet
- 14:47Speaker 3: until now it's become the only basic view that's allowed.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Dare I say in spite of the evidence to the
- 14:53Speaker 3: contrary to other sciences including geology and like said in
- 14:57Speaker 3: astronomy and even in the biology in the medicine world,
- 15:01Speaker 3: is like, how can you maintain atheism when you take
- 15:03Speaker 3: a look at the complexity of the bodies that whatever.
- 15:06Speaker 3: But this has been going on for about one hundred
- 15:09Speaker 3: and fifty years since the time of Charles Darwin, right,
- 15:11Speaker 3: So think about this, and this is why it's important.
- 15:14Speaker 3: It not only builds the premise for the lie of
- 15:19Speaker 3: aliens that their higher evolved beings from outer space, but
- 15:22Speaker 3: that was really only the first step. So the next step,
- 15:26Speaker 3: the bigger step, is then they become once they get
- 15:29Speaker 3: accepted that this is even a possibility. And you can't
- 15:32Speaker 3: do that until you laid the planet. Yeah, then you
- 15:36Speaker 3: set them up for the next lie, and that is well,
- 15:39Speaker 3: everybody knows they're real, and that's what happened to those
- 15:41Speaker 3: people who disappeared, right, So think about how slowly methodically
- 15:45Speaker 3: Satan is. He started with the lie to explain away
- 15:49Speaker 3: the wraps of the church one hundred and fifty years ago.
- 15:52Speaker 3: But that's whom we have to deal with. That's who
- 15:54Speaker 3: he is.
- 15:54Speaker 2: See you know, as you were talking, the whole idea
- 15:57Speaker 2: of the alien, of the panspermia, these other beings that
- 16:01Speaker 2: are our saviors, it's all been built to explain the rapture,
- 16:07Speaker 2: which was to explain origins, also to explain a b
- 16:11Speaker 2: system and to give credence to for them to be
- 16:15Speaker 2: the ones to bring order out of the chaos of
- 16:18Speaker 2: this mass abduction or disappearance, which we know is.
- 16:21Speaker 3: The rapture, right right, Yeah, and again you look at back.
- 16:24Speaker 3: What is that? That's deceit, that's lives lies, deception? Where
- 16:29Speaker 3: does that come from? John chapter eight? That's from Satan,
- 16:33Speaker 3: Satan's and liars and father of all lies. I may
- 16:36Speaker 3: not have been there, obviously, you weren't there. None of
- 16:38Speaker 3: us were there when Charles Darwin comes up with this
- 16:42Speaker 3: lie and he's going around and his HMS Beagle boat
- 16:46Speaker 3: there and looking at different birds, right and because you know,
- 16:52Speaker 3: but that thought came from somewhere and it wasn't the
- 16:54Speaker 3: spirit of God, because that's a lie.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Well, and even prior to him, you have which I
- 16:58Speaker 2: think again goes back to to you know, Charles Lyle.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Long ages.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Yeah, the long ages, the uniformitarian idea that we see
- 17:05Speaker 2: Peter amazingly in Second Peter three. So the Bible is
- 17:08Speaker 2: amazing how it warns us of these but you need
- 17:10Speaker 2: the long ages for revolution to work. And then so
- 17:13Speaker 2: you have two Charles Lyle and Darwin coming along to
- 17:17Speaker 2: do this and setting the stage. What do you think now,
- 17:21Speaker 2: I mean, we're watching again going back to eighteen fifty,
- 17:24Speaker 2: even before watching this, and now over the last let's say,
- 17:29Speaker 2: from twenty seventeen. Again, this has been fringe, the aliens, fringe,
- 17:33Speaker 2: people can ignore it whatever. But now there's been this
- 17:38Speaker 2: soft disclosure. Now we're having meetings in the government in
- 17:42Speaker 2: our own very own Congress. So if you're listening to this,
- 17:44Speaker 2: your Congress now is having these meetings over and over
- 17:48Speaker 2: and over. Tim Burchett's been talking and wanting transparency about
- 17:52Speaker 2: all these things. But now it's becoming governmentally accepted or
- 18:00Speaker 2: endorsed of something out there. But it brings the attention.
- 18:04Speaker 2: Now it's in the mainstream, I guess, is what I'm saying,
- 18:06Speaker 2: versus the fringe. Now it's in the mainstream that contributes
- 18:09Speaker 2: as well to the preparatory nature of people believing that's
- 18:12Speaker 2: what it does.
- 18:13Speaker 3: Come well, including a third Charles or dare I say,
- 18:16Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. You know he's there to help us out
- 18:18Speaker 3: to a wonderful Democrat guy, and he's going to help
- 18:21Speaker 3: bring out their disclosure. But no, in all seriousness, that's
- 18:25Speaker 3: another reason why we wanted to hurt and get this
- 18:27Speaker 3: out because and this was my feeling for if in fact,
- 18:32Speaker 3: uphols and aliens are going to become the excuse to
- 18:34Speaker 3: explaining why the after the church, which I'm convinced, then
- 18:38Speaker 3: what would you expect to happen on the world scene?
- 18:43Speaker 3: Just if we're getting close to that event right then
- 18:46Speaker 3: I would expect at some point we're going to have
- 18:48Speaker 3: to see a flip of the switch from what we've
- 18:51Speaker 3: seen for the last many decades. You talk about, like
- 18:54Speaker 3: I said, this is something difference going on. Well, I
- 18:56Speaker 3: don't think it's my chance. And for decades they've it's
- 19:00Speaker 3: been absolute denial, complete denial, not just of UFOs but aliens.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Oh no, that's just crazy, that's whatever, right, even though
- 19:06Speaker 3: Hollywood and the Second Education is building that mindset. But
- 19:09Speaker 3: the governments is where I'm going with this. The government's
- 19:11Speaker 3: oh no, way, never, never, never. But like you said,
- 19:13Speaker 3: all of a sudden something flipped, and all of a
- 19:16Speaker 3: sudden we're seeing right now governments around the world, including
- 19:19Speaker 3: our own. First it was just UFO aircraft, you know,
- 19:23Speaker 3: they're UFOs to UAPs and they're trying to change it. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
- 19:27Speaker 3: we're out there. Then what's happening even more recently. They're
- 19:30Speaker 3: going to the next step. And the next step is, oh,
- 19:32Speaker 3: it ain't just UFOs, it's aliens. These creatures we've been
- 19:36Speaker 3: working with, we've been interrogating them right behind the scenes,
- 19:40Speaker 3: and they're non agreement been struck exactly. But this isn't
- 19:44Speaker 3: like Joshmo dot com, wackyufoguide dot org. You know what,
- 19:48Speaker 3: you know, this is from our own government. But should
- 19:51Speaker 3: it surprise you if you understand the game, the end game,
- 19:55Speaker 3: and the endgame is you better come up with some
- 19:57Speaker 3: excuse for the rapture. And you've been denying this whole
- 19:59Speaker 3: time while at the same time building the mindset in
- 20:01Speaker 3: people's minds with the Ye evolution. But that was just
- 20:03Speaker 3: step one. The ultimate step is this is the excuse
- 20:05Speaker 3: explaining with the rapture. So what should you expect we
- 20:08Speaker 3: at some point, if if we're getting close to the rapture,
- 20:11Speaker 3: you should see the government going from denial too admittance,
- 20:14Speaker 3: including the mends of aliens. And that's why we want
- 20:17Speaker 3: to get this out quick, because that's happening right now.
- 20:21Speaker 2: It's happening right now. And you so you know in
- 20:24Speaker 2: the in the in the book and the DVD. Let's
- 20:26Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about the you know, in
- 20:29Speaker 2: these sections, we've talked about a little bit of the
- 20:32Speaker 2: premise and and and the religion, the lies. But you
- 20:37Speaker 2: have another part here section the communication, abductions, emotions, actions, possession.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Let's talk about the you have here on the title
- 20:46Speaker 2: a mass abduction again, which is a reference to the rapture.
- 20:49Speaker 2: But let's talk about what people might not know is
- 20:54Speaker 2: the reality of abductions that have been examined by Harvard
- 21:00Speaker 2: scientists others that are they're looking at these these abductions,
- 21:05Speaker 2: which has setting the stage as a foundation for the
- 21:08Speaker 2: final massive abduction. Talk about abductions.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Yeah, well again we yeah, as you mentioned, we have
- 21:13Speaker 3: a whole section they're dealing with that aspect. And again,
- 21:16Speaker 3: if you if you just if you're intellectually honest, you
- 21:18Speaker 3: deal with the facts, including the facts coming from these critters. Uh,
- 21:22Speaker 3: when you lay it all out, they begin to explain
- 21:25Speaker 3: by their words and their actions and their behavior, who
- 21:28Speaker 3: they really are. Again, you can call yourself alien all
- 21:31Speaker 3: you want. They're really a demon disguising themselves as alien.
- 21:36Speaker 3: And part of that is because they've trained us to
- 21:38Speaker 3: be anti biblical, anti God, we don't want to believe
- 21:40Speaker 3: in supernatural. Don't talk about demons. You're a wacko. I don't.
- 21:43Speaker 3: We believe in science nowadays, you know, follow the science
- 21:46Speaker 3: all that, blah blah blah. So they still got to
- 21:49Speaker 3: do their dirty deed, and that's what they're doing. So
- 21:51Speaker 3: they just, oh, we're not demons. People freak out and
- 21:54Speaker 3: be afraid that's too obvious. We're an alien here. It's
- 21:57Speaker 3: the same thing. But they tell you that. And part
- 21:59Speaker 3: of the reason why we know that they tell you
- 22:01Speaker 3: that is, you know, you mentioned the communication aspect, right,
- 22:04Speaker 3: You're supposed to be this higher, technologically advanced race, and
- 22:07Speaker 3: you'd think that if you're here to help us with
- 22:09Speaker 3: this information we desperately need at this time and mankind's crisis,
- 22:13Speaker 3: which is what they say, Well, how about sending an email,
- 22:17Speaker 3: or let's come down and have a conference, you know,
- 22:18Speaker 3: like we're doing right now. Let's do a podcast. So
- 22:20Speaker 3: let's have a couple of confidents talk about that, you know,
- 22:24Speaker 3: send me a text.
- 22:24Speaker 2: You know.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Oh no. The only way we can get this information
- 22:27Speaker 3: is they literally have to. A person has to get
- 22:30Speaker 3: into an altered state of consciousness, and these beings come
- 22:33Speaker 3: inside of them and they speak through them. Excuse me,
- 22:36Speaker 3: that's demonic. That's a demonic practice that God for biz
- 22:39Speaker 3: because it's a medium shift. That's when demons possess somebody.
- 22:42Speaker 3: And that's what these things do. It's like you're supposed
- 22:44Speaker 3: to be this higher advanced race, but you're resorting to
- 22:46Speaker 3: an occult technique that God for biz because it's demonic.
- 22:49Speaker 3: That's a big clue. Another thing is they want full
- 22:51Speaker 3: on possession of people. They want to take over people's bodies.
- 22:55Speaker 3: And typically when when that happens, sure enough, just like
- 22:58Speaker 3: the biblical account, when you people possess, they go insane,
- 23:02Speaker 3: they go further away from God. They propagate evil and
- 23:05Speaker 3: things that lead people away from God and or kill themselves.
- 23:07Speaker 3: And that's exact same thing when people have encounters with
- 23:11Speaker 3: these things. The other thing, too, is what's really wild
- 23:15Speaker 3: and I'm convinced only the Bible gives us the answer.
- 23:17Speaker 3: But of all things for these critics to do to
- 23:19Speaker 3: people when they abduct them in secular euphologists even admit
- 23:25Speaker 3: this is oftentimes the people are subjected to sexual experimentation
- 23:31Speaker 3: very cold and that has just been out there for
- 23:34Speaker 3: a long time. It's crazy as that sounds. You're like, well,
- 23:36Speaker 3: what's that? How's that a demon? We'll go back to
- 23:38Speaker 3: what Genesis six and you got the sons of God
- 23:41Speaker 3: the demons, So you're dealing with the nephel Ema issue now.
- 23:45Speaker 3: The reason why that's important is because what did Jesus
- 23:47Speaker 3: say and Matthew twenty four thirty seven? As it was
- 23:50Speaker 3: in the days of Noah? So shall it be at
- 23:52Speaker 3: the coming to son of Man? What was going on
- 23:54Speaker 3: in the days of Noah? So that we know that
- 23:56Speaker 3: it's getting close to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Well,
- 24:00Speaker 3: number one, Jesus said there in Matthew twenty four it
- 24:02Speaker 3: was a time again people were scoffing about God's coming judgment.
- 24:05Speaker 3: They were eating, drinking, business as usual, giving the marriage
- 24:07Speaker 3: all that's our world today. You and I try to
- 24:09Speaker 3: tell them about Hey, man, better get right with God.
- 24:12Speaker 3: I got to get to work. What do your wacko?
- 24:13Speaker 3: I'm getting married next week. I don't have time for this, right,
- 24:15Speaker 3: you and know all that stuff. So that's here today.
- 24:17Speaker 3: The Genesis account and six tells us another sign of
- 24:20Speaker 3: the days of no is it was so evil that
- 24:22Speaker 3: the thoughts of man were continually wicked all the time,
- 24:24Speaker 3: and it grieved God's heart. Well, I believe we're there
- 24:27Speaker 3: as well. There's the thoughts of you can't go anywhere,
- 24:29Speaker 3: there's evil everywhere, you can't get you know, it's a
- 24:31Speaker 3: Christian you, a one's want to blindfold yourself and not
- 24:33Speaker 3: just your eyes, your ears. Is wickedness everywhere, and people
- 24:35Speaker 3: think it it's just so we're there, But it's that
- 24:38Speaker 3: third aspect that people kind of shy away from or
- 24:40Speaker 3: have never been taught, or just skip over and they
- 24:43Speaker 3: don't realize what they're reading. But it talks about how
- 24:45Speaker 3: these demonic creatures were mingling with the daughters of men.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Out came some sort of a hybrid issue.
- 24:53Speaker 2: If supernatural interference that involved genetic manipulation exactly, and which
- 24:59Speaker 2: was second obviously exactly. And so then again go back
- 25:03Speaker 2: to these guys of all things you're.
- 25:04Speaker 3: Doing to people? Yeah, weird? Huh is again sec wherever
- 25:07Speaker 3: I heard that before? Genesis nepheline demons, Right, you're doing
- 25:12Speaker 3: the same thing. And the reason why that's important and
- 25:14Speaker 3: the reason why we deal with that is crazy as
- 25:16Speaker 3: that sounds, because Jesus said it. I didn't. You're going
- 25:19Speaker 3: to see a repeated this behavior, right, before I come
- 25:21Speaker 3: back and put a stop to all of it, basically, right.
- 25:25Speaker 3: And so that's another sign though, that you're dealing with
- 25:28Speaker 3: some sort of a demonic entity, because they're doing the
- 25:32Speaker 3: same thing that the demons of old did, they're doing
- 25:34Speaker 3: it again today. The way they communicate, you'd think you'd
- 25:37Speaker 3: give us something we could use, But you're here to
- 25:40Speaker 3: debunk Christianity. Say that Jesus came from the ets, that's
- 25:46Speaker 3: where he got his power, Satan's a good guy. Followed
- 25:48Speaker 3: the anti Christ kingdom. That's really how about a cure
- 25:51Speaker 3: for cancer? Right, some world crisis. You come allay over
- 25:54Speaker 3: here to debunk, to try to debunk only the biblical
- 25:59Speaker 3: version of creation, the existence, salvation alone through Jesus Christ,
- 26:03Speaker 3: the need of redemption. And then you promote the anti
- 26:05Speaker 3: Christ kingdom. You say, Satan's a good guy, and then
- 26:08Speaker 3: you cohabitate like demons of old and the Genesis six account.
- 26:11Speaker 3: Really and again, as you see, there's like fourteen chapters.
- 26:14Speaker 3: We just we slowly begin to if you're intellectually honest,
- 26:18Speaker 3: prove we provide the evidence, and this evidence is coming
- 26:20Speaker 3: from them, This is coming from their camp, This is
- 26:23Speaker 3: coming from their alien mouth, you know, and things that nature.
- 26:26Speaker 3: This is what they are saying to people. This is
- 26:28Speaker 3: from all of the world, this is their actions. And
- 26:31Speaker 3: so we just catalog it all and as we bring
- 26:33Speaker 3: it forth, then we compare it to the scripture, going like, okay,
- 26:36Speaker 3: as after first six reasons, it didn't show you what
- 26:38Speaker 3: you're dealing with. Here's another one, and here's another one,
- 26:41Speaker 3: and here's another one. And then that's why we end
- 26:43Speaker 3: though on Okay, I get it that this is a
- 26:45Speaker 3: demonic deception, but where's it going? Bingo explain away the
- 26:50Speaker 3: mass abduction. Now see, that's what they're going to tell
- 26:52Speaker 3: the world. The rule will be told, Oh that euphons, ohs,
- 26:56Speaker 3: and aliens. That's what we saw with the mass abduction.
- 27:00Speaker 3: The Bible calls it the rapture. And it won't be
- 27:02Speaker 3: from aliens. It'll be from Jesus coming to get his bride.
- 27:04Speaker 2: You know. And it's interesting too because the whether all
- 27:08Speaker 2: the movies that we've seen again the of abductions happening.
- 27:13Speaker 2: It's conditioning everybody to think in terms of these other
- 27:16Speaker 2: beings doing abductions. Let me ask you this, So on
- 27:20Speaker 2: the cover of your book, you got a craft there, Yeah,
- 27:24Speaker 2: do you anticipate like a craft appearing and being as
- 27:30Speaker 2: physical as this table.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Well, there's there's two things, and we actually demonstrate either
- 27:35Speaker 3: scenario and because it gives I'm based on the research
- 27:39Speaker 3: based most important on the scripture and the character of
- 27:43Speaker 3: Satan the demons, but again also their own messages are
- 27:47Speaker 3: telling people they are preparing themselves to explain with the rapture.
- 27:50Speaker 3: I have no doubt about that, and we document that
- 27:52Speaker 3: very thoroughly. But it wouldn't surprise me that right after
- 27:59Speaker 3: the rap sure to further get people to buy into
- 28:02Speaker 3: that lie that they don't appear, you know, to use
- 28:04Speaker 3: the phrase when we disappear, they appear.
- 28:07Speaker 2: Yeah, La always says we go up, they show.
- 28:09Speaker 3: Up right exactly, and so so and so that well,
- 28:12Speaker 3: how are they going to do that? And so we
- 28:14Speaker 3: actually have a section on there with two different angles.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Both are very viable. Now I'm not going to say
- 28:19Speaker 3: that's safe the word because we're going to be gone exactly,
- 28:21Speaker 3: but they're very viable. Number one, they for years people
- 28:25Speaker 3: have talked about something called Project Bluebeam and where the
- 28:28Speaker 3: governments around the world have the ability to do these
- 28:31Speaker 3: mass holograms that they could do and so imagine when
- 28:36Speaker 3: people are visibly leaving and then they go into the clouds. Okay,
- 28:40Speaker 3: they're at their biblical rapture. But then right after that
- 28:44Speaker 3: next thing, you know, you see around the world ships
- 28:47Speaker 3: of massive size, like citywide size, coming out of the
- 28:51Speaker 3: sky and just hovering there in the air, right right afterwards, right,
- 28:55Speaker 3: and you're going like, could they have that technology? Yeah?
- 28:59Speaker 3: A lot of people call the project, but we also
- 29:03Speaker 3: bring out this other aspect and we actually interview military
- 29:06Speaker 3: folks and they just shared with this declassified military information
- 29:12Speaker 3: and just the declassified the rule is we are at
- 29:15Speaker 3: least fifty years behind actual technology, and that includes flying
- 29:19Speaker 3: technology that they could use. So whether it's a Project
- 29:22Speaker 3: Bluebam Bluebeam hologram that appears after the rapture, or government
- 29:28Speaker 3: military aircraft around the world that dare I say is
- 29:31Speaker 3: alien like and but it's legit you can touch it, right,
- 29:36Speaker 3: that could be utilized as well. So either one is possible.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Now again I'm not saying does say to the Lord,
- 29:41Speaker 3: but it certainly starts to make sense, right because these
- 29:44Speaker 3: people they don't know the timing of the rapture no
- 29:47Speaker 3: more than you and I do. Because the people, the
- 29:51Speaker 3: people that are working with these critters who believe, who believe,
- 29:54Speaker 3: who believe that the message that they're saying, Uh, and
- 29:58Speaker 3: dare I say, people out of the holt the New
- 30:01Speaker 3: World Order folks.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Uh.
- 30:03Speaker 3: They they want a one world government, they want a
- 30:06Speaker 3: one world religion, they want a one world ruler to
- 30:10Speaker 3: govern the planet. And that's the same message these guys
- 30:13Speaker 3: are saying. See, if you want to bring peace to
- 30:14Speaker 3: the planet, it's basically man's version of utopia. It's it's
- 30:18Speaker 3: the lie that we don't need Jesus Christ, the Prince
- 30:21Speaker 3: of Peace to bring peace to the planet, and that's
- 30:22Speaker 3: the only way it's going to happen. That's in the
- 30:24Speaker 3: Millennium Kingdom. It's basically their version of a pseudo millennium. Right.
- 30:28Speaker 3: So after the rapture and you get all those nasty
- 30:29Speaker 3: people in the way, they're restraining influence, those Christians, as
- 30:35Speaker 3: they would say, holding up the harmony of the earth.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Right as soon as they're gone. Uh. These people that
- 30:40Speaker 3: that they they think it's a good thing. Get rid
- 30:43Speaker 3: of those troublemakers. Finally got get rid of those troublemakers.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Now we can finally bring in this you know, there's
- 30:50Speaker 3: different names for it, New World Order, that is not
- 30:53Speaker 3: a member. I came across this in our study on Satanism.
- 30:57Speaker 3: That is actually a term that's been around for a
- 31:00Speaker 3: long time in early forms of Satanism called theosophy from
- 31:03Speaker 3: Madame Mulaski back in the day. And they were referring
- 31:06Speaker 3: to and theosophy believe Satan's a good guy, loose for
- 31:10Speaker 3: the light and he's come to show us how to
- 31:12Speaker 3: bring peace to the planet. We don't need Jesus. That's
- 31:14Speaker 3: the rebellion anyway. So that's way back in the days
- 31:17Speaker 3: when that was a new world order, Age of Utopia,
- 31:20Speaker 3: Age of Aquarius, remember that song, right, But they're talking
- 31:22Speaker 3: about man, we'll do it, Man work out. So these
- 31:25Speaker 3: people are part of that camp. That's the same message
- 31:27Speaker 3: from these lying aliens, really repackaged demons are saying. So
- 31:32Speaker 3: they think it's a good thing. That's what they want.
- 31:34Speaker 3: So here's my point. So then visibly appear go up Christians.
- 31:40Speaker 3: And then they use either actual technology that we are
- 31:43Speaker 3: not privy to, but this alien like way advance would
- 31:46Speaker 3: probably freak us out if we could see what they
- 31:48Speaker 3: really got. And that's coming from the military guy's interview.
- 31:51Speaker 3: And then and or Project bluebeing and the deception is set.
- 31:56Speaker 3: The deception is set because you and you think about
- 32:00Speaker 3: human nature. Human nature in a time of crisis is
- 32:03Speaker 3: you will gravitate towards pretty much any excuse, just to
- 32:06Speaker 3: maintain your sanity. Yeah, in order, and that's just human
- 32:10Speaker 3: basic nature. But think about this, This isn't just some excuse.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Think about when the rapture happens, when people literally and
- 32:16Speaker 3: dar I say, even in this context, visibly disappear. You
- 32:19Speaker 3: can't stop it. It's going on. It's a global shock,
- 32:22Speaker 3: and all right, you better come up with something real
- 32:25Speaker 3: fast to explain that away. And again, this isn't just
- 32:29Speaker 3: some lame excuse. And you could probably come up on
- 32:31Speaker 3: the scene. People are in such chocking like you say,
- 32:34Speaker 3: I know what happens to your love one. This was
- 32:36Speaker 3: some secret agent program from Jeff Bezos of Amazon. And
- 32:41Speaker 3: you know these are the people who resisted the Amazon promiking.
- 32:43Speaker 3: You know what, you just to maintain sanity. This isn't
- 32:47Speaker 3: just some lame excuse. It's been slowly methodically foisted upon.
- 32:51Speaker 3: It started one hundred and fifty years ago more with
- 32:53Speaker 3: the live evolution Charles Darwin moving forward, just to get
- 32:56Speaker 3: that mindset to lead to the next mindset, now that
- 32:59Speaker 3: there's alien evolution out there, and then you could explain
- 33:03Speaker 3: this away. But but as soon as that happens, here
- 33:07Speaker 3: comes spaceships and whatever form, right, maybe they land on
- 33:10Speaker 3: the White House lawn or whatever and other places around
- 33:12Speaker 3: the world. Mando, people will fall for it just like that.
- 33:15Speaker 3: And this is what demons are doing.
- 33:18Speaker 1: They'll never equate it with even the rapture. Right and
- 33:23Speaker 1: then well, and dare I say, you know who's who's
- 33:25Speaker 1: at fault in this to the church who refuses to
- 33:28Speaker 1: teach on prophecy. You think that's by chance, no way,
- 33:31Speaker 1: no way, the time when this is getting so close
- 33:35Speaker 1: to explain why the rapture. For decades now, we've had
- 33:39Speaker 1: the church that will not even preach on that, or
- 33:42Speaker 1: some that would say you and I are complete wackos
- 33:46Speaker 1: and we need to symbolize books of the Bible that
- 33:48Speaker 1: talk about this, including revelation with things in natology.
- 33:51Speaker 2: And the heresy and just stupidity. And you said something
- 33:54Speaker 2: I want to go back to because the the the
- 33:59Speaker 2: premise of what you know, even of the title this
- 34:02Speaker 2: mass subduction, it reminds me of again the movies where
- 34:06Speaker 2: you have a craft that has a light, a beam,
- 34:09Speaker 2: and it's it's drawing up this person slowly visibly. There
- 34:14Speaker 2: they go. The tradition, I say, it's a tradition of
- 34:20Speaker 2: all of us, some of our brothers and sisters. That
- 34:23Speaker 2: the typical thing, and I've spoken on this on our
- 34:25Speaker 2: YouTube channel, is that is there an instantaneous disappearance. All
- 34:29Speaker 2: of a sudden, boom, the rapture happens. I look around
- 34:32Speaker 2: and there's clothes on the ground, and all the bodies
- 34:34Speaker 2: are instantaneously disappeared. And the people are wondering, and we've
- 34:37Speaker 2: had movies about it, left Behind, and all of a sudden,
- 34:39Speaker 2: they're like, where'd they go? Where they go? Where they go?
- 34:41Speaker 2: And they're looking in their room, they're looking in the cave,
- 34:44Speaker 2: they're looking underground. Well, where do these people go that
- 34:48Speaker 2: instantly disappeared? I don't think that's what the way the
- 34:51Speaker 2: Bible describes it. That's an interesting theory, but the Bible
- 34:56Speaker 2: describes it in a different way. Let's talk about that
- 35:00Speaker 2: which would seem again more apt to what we're seeing
- 35:04Speaker 2: as it relates to the condition, which is a visible, watched,
- 35:10Speaker 2: observed gathering of the church where everybody sees them go
- 35:16Speaker 2: up somewhere, So it's not like again I'd have to
- 35:19Speaker 2: go look in my closet or I have to go
- 35:21Speaker 2: look over here or look in the forest. No, we
- 35:23Speaker 2: know where they went. We watched them visibly go up.
- 35:27Speaker 2: So that's very different than the typical left behind disappearance.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.
- 35:30Speaker 3: Yeah, well again, you look at the biblical account when
- 35:32Speaker 3: people go to heaven and visibly it's it's just that
- 35:37Speaker 3: it's visibly. Of course, you look at the two witnesses
- 35:40Speaker 3: in the Seven Year Tribulation. Visibly people see them.
- 35:43Speaker 2: It says very revolution of their enemies, watch them ascend.
- 35:47Speaker 2: It uses the word harpotso be being brought up exactly.
- 35:52Speaker 3: And then you look at course the ascension Christ Acts
- 35:54Speaker 3: chapter one, How did he leave the planet, And you
- 35:56Speaker 3: go to the right hand.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Disappear right now, he visibly went up.
- 35:59Speaker 3: He was witness and it specifically says they're in Acts
- 36:01Speaker 3: chapter one that the disciples were looking up in the
- 36:05Speaker 3: clouds and they were still looking into.
- 36:06Speaker 2: The clouds when he disappeared. That's important, right, he disappeared
- 36:09Speaker 2: into the clouds, therefore was no longer visible as he
- 36:12Speaker 2: slowly went up. Watched them the rapture is we are
- 36:16Speaker 2: gathered in the clouds, which then we become unable to
- 36:19Speaker 2: be seen. Go back to Elijah, Elijah is they watch
- 36:24Speaker 2: him go up. Elishah watches him go up. It's not
- 36:26Speaker 2: a disappearance. He watches him go up. And then as
- 36:30Speaker 2: Jesus in the church into the clouds, and maybe revelation
- 36:34Speaker 2: Love and the two witnesses, even Elijah, as they disappear
- 36:37Speaker 2: in the clouds, everybody sees they're in the clouds and
- 36:40Speaker 2: then all of a sudden boom.
- 36:42Speaker 3: Potentially what which think about that? That's a perfect counterfeit
- 36:46Speaker 3: for the evil one because it says they're in next one.
- 36:48Speaker 3: After they're looking in the clouds, Jesus goes to the
- 36:50Speaker 3: cloud they get and they're still looking. And they're still
- 36:52Speaker 3: looking in the clouds. Angels appear from God yep and say, hey,
- 36:58Speaker 3: why are you still looking? He's gonna come bat the
- 37:00Speaker 3: same way right now. Wouldn't that be like the enemy?
- 37:03Speaker 3: It can't say that, say the Lord will be gone.
- 37:05Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be like the enemy. So the disciples they
- 37:07Speaker 3: look up in the cloud they're still looking at a
- 37:09Speaker 3: humanities looking at the clouds, right and then a ship
- 37:12Speaker 3: first last time got but what is it? Last time
- 37:17Speaker 3: it was holy angels from God declaring, why are you
- 37:21Speaker 3: still looking up there? Let us give you the answer
- 37:24Speaker 3: to what you just saw. Demons show up on the
- 37:27Speaker 3: scene in the form of aliens and UFOs. Let us
- 37:30Speaker 3: give you the answer of what you're looking up there,
- 37:33Speaker 3: complete counterfeit, the exact opposite. That's what demons do, follow
- 37:37Speaker 3: the exactly.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yea to me, it's it's fascinating, especially again even on
- 37:42Speaker 2: your cover you have beings going up and it looks
- 37:47Speaker 2: like into a ship, which again is to me, as
- 37:53Speaker 2: we said earlier, you know, we go up, they show up,
- 37:55Speaker 2: and they explain, hey, let's talk about that explanation. So
- 37:59Speaker 2: they show up, we're slowly the whole world watches the
- 38:02Speaker 2: church go up into the skies and disappear into the clouds.
- 38:05Speaker 2: And then let's say, hypothetical reader, which this is that
- 38:08Speaker 2: I think is scriptural, but possibly a ship then appears
- 38:12Speaker 2: out of cloud and says, hey, by the way, we
- 38:14Speaker 2: had to take these people out of the off the
- 38:16Speaker 2: earth because why.
- 38:18Speaker 3: Well again, if you listen to these critters coming through
- 38:22Speaker 3: demonic means of communication, what they There's a couple of
- 38:28Speaker 3: different things they say that it was kind of a
- 38:32Speaker 3: mercy rescue operation in that these people were they use
- 38:38Speaker 3: kind of some New Age terms if you're familiar with them,
- 38:41Speaker 3: they were not of the higher vibration as the rest
- 38:44Speaker 3: of us, that they were not able to handle spiritually
- 38:47Speaker 3: the time. Right. Some will say that there are a
- 38:51Speaker 3: hindrance to what we're trying to accomplish, but they always
- 38:54Speaker 3: say this, but don't worry about them. We've got them
- 38:59Speaker 3: in kind of a quarter. Were taking care of them,
- 39:01Speaker 3: and quote will beam them back down at a later
- 39:05Speaker 3: time when they when they can handle But yeah, you know,
- 39:07Speaker 3: the time of Earth changes and this new utopia that
- 39:10Speaker 3: we're going to bring to the planet now, which again
- 39:13Speaker 3: simultaneously and all explains the way they're apture. But at
- 39:15Speaker 3: the same time it makes those left behind thinking like,
- 39:17Speaker 3: oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm a super spiritual pro I
- 39:21Speaker 3: can handle it. They couldn't. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Those Christians, they were so narrow views, aren't you.
- 39:27Speaker 1: Aren't you glad they let you know what You're right,
- 39:29Speaker 1: They couldn't hand it, but us, Yeah.
- 39:31Speaker 3: You can see people's prize sucking that life.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:34Speaker 3: Right, And and because you know there's already this anti
- 39:37Speaker 3: Christians a bunch of wackos.
- 39:38Speaker 2: It weren't for you.
- 39:39Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. You're always holding things back every
- 39:42Speaker 3: time we want to do something, all of our behavior,
- 39:44Speaker 3: and you always calling it wicked, you always you know. Look,
- 39:48Speaker 3: but they say that they're they're not hiring evolved enough spiritually. Uh,
- 39:54Speaker 3: they do not have a higher enough frequency vibration and whatever.
- 39:57Speaker 3: But again they do it. They pass. I will still
- 40:01Speaker 3: you miss your loved ones, but don't worry.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Don't worry.
- 40:04Speaker 3: We'll bring it back down later. So that's the excuse
- 40:07Speaker 3: that they're building into. That's why we had to suck
- 40:10Speaker 3: them up, because they would have messed up this wonderful
- 40:14Speaker 3: utopia and we were preparing.
- 40:16Speaker 2: And and so they have a again, we have the
- 40:19Speaker 2: conditioning all throughout you again, in the last one hundred
- 40:22Speaker 2: fifty years evolution, even Hollywood media now the government to
- 40:28Speaker 2: set the stage for an explanation of a mass subduction,
- 40:32Speaker 2: which we'd call the rapture, but also the need of
- 40:35Speaker 2: an explanation not only because people are gone, but secondly
- 40:39Speaker 2: the ensuing chaos right and out of chaos, there's they're
- 40:46Speaker 2: going to have a solution to bring order. Talk about that.
- 40:49Speaker 3: Well, and we end on the two sections there, the
- 40:52Speaker 3: Vatican involvement with this.
- 40:55Speaker 2: Believe it or not, oh, which was amazing, I mean yep.
- 40:58Speaker 3: And then also the occult expectation because again the New Age,
- 41:01Speaker 3: the Occult, which I came out of, and I was
- 41:04Speaker 3: of that camp before I got saved. I would be
- 41:06Speaker 3: the first one to tell you Christians are stopping the
- 41:08Speaker 3: harmony of the earth. Christians are the ones messing everything up.
- 41:11Speaker 3: If it weren't for those Christians, we could have peace
- 41:13Speaker 3: to the planet. So the Christians are gone. But what
- 41:16Speaker 3: they pitch we need to follow one world ruler, one
- 41:20Speaker 3: world government, one world economy to bring peace to the plant,
- 41:23Speaker 3: all the religions, everybody needs to come together, right. I
- 41:26Speaker 3: didn't even It wasn't until after I got saved. I'm
- 41:29Speaker 3: reading through the scripture and I'm going like, wait a second.
- 41:31Speaker 3: Every one of those things is a pillar of the
- 41:34Speaker 3: anti christ cheme, the seven year Tribulation. So and of
- 41:36Speaker 3: course I never put it together because it wasn't saved
- 41:38Speaker 3: and I wasn't going to be reading the Bible. So
- 41:40Speaker 3: but the occult wants this to happen. The occult wants
- 41:47Speaker 3: Christians to go away. The occult says Christians are the
- 41:50Speaker 3: ones messing everything up to create their own utopia. So
- 41:55Speaker 3: we deal with this and their game plan. Where I'm
- 41:58Speaker 3: going with this is their game plan is what is is,
- 42:00Speaker 3: and believe it or not, they weave in the appearance
- 42:04Speaker 3: of UFOs and aliens and this is their worst. Imagine
- 42:08Speaker 3: a time when you see the disappearance of millions of
- 42:14Speaker 3: people all over the planet, and at the same time,
- 42:18Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the stock market, the global economy
- 42:21Speaker 3: truly crashes this time. At the same time, imagine officially
- 42:28Speaker 3: World War three breaks out the Middle East. Imagine at
- 42:32Speaker 3: the same time, a couple dirty nukes go off in
- 42:36Speaker 3: some major cities around the world. Imagine at the same time,
- 42:41Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden, there's massive earthquakes, which
- 42:44Speaker 3: by the way, there is technology to trigger those. Most
- 42:47Speaker 3: people don't know. But imagine all that happened at the
- 42:49Speaker 3: same time. What would people do. They would freak out
- 42:53Speaker 3: like never before. It's a global shock and awe event.
- 42:56Speaker 3: It's a shock and you know what, they're going to
- 42:57Speaker 3: cry out for someone, anyone. I don't care who it is.
- 43:03Speaker 3: As remember that I was it spack to spack the
- 43:06Speaker 3: guy in the fifties, he said, be he God or
- 43:10Speaker 3: the devil himself, we will follow him.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Yep.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Right, and and so you think about this, this is
- 43:15Speaker 3: all coming to play. But they think it's a good thing.
- 43:17Speaker 3: But again, it isn't just the shock or the rapture. Uh,
- 43:20Speaker 3: it's if, in fact they use their because they don't
- 43:22Speaker 3: know the timing, but they're prepared. They're waiting so that
- 43:25Speaker 3: when it happens, then they can bring whether it's military
- 43:28Speaker 3: aircraft or Project Blueberry or both, and then create the
- 43:33Speaker 3: World War three scenario. Drop a couple of dirty nukes,
- 43:36Speaker 3: crash the economy for real, because it's all it's all
- 43:38Speaker 3: sitting there ready to go.
- 43:39Speaker 2: This is the great reset.
- 43:41Speaker 3: This is now you're getting back into Klaus Schwab. It's
- 43:43Speaker 3: all full circle now right. This is because they need
- 43:45Speaker 3: a crisis to manage the outcome. Right. But but what
- 43:48Speaker 3: people don't know, and this is what we're excited to
- 43:49Speaker 3: get this out, believe it or not. As crazy as
- 43:51Speaker 3: this sounds, UFOs and aliens are all part of this
- 43:54Speaker 3: part of But why because you've got to explain away
- 43:58Speaker 3: the rapture, the coming mass subduction.
- 44:00Speaker 2: And you know, again, if anybody this is the importance
- 44:03Speaker 2: of this topic because again it's not it's not the
- 44:07Speaker 2: end all of all of prophecy, because there's a lot
- 44:10Speaker 2: of parts in prophecy in different categories. But this is
- 44:13Speaker 2: an underlying, uh fact that's gone back a long way.
- 44:20Speaker 2: That is, I think, of course lies a lot of
- 44:24Speaker 2: lies and deceptions, but all it's amazing that all of
- 44:27Speaker 2: this plays into explaining one thing, the removal of a
- 44:33Speaker 2: millions and millions and millions of people in order to
- 44:35Speaker 2: set the stage of the chaos, but also to bring
- 44:39Speaker 2: the influence to guide people to this one figure or
- 44:43Speaker 2: what well, really in the beginning, you know, the ten
- 44:46Speaker 2: Kings and ten figures in that regard who then you know,
- 44:49Speaker 2: work with certainly the Antichrist, but that it's it helps
- 44:56Speaker 2: us to understand the truthfulness Why, I guess I'll say,
- 44:59Speaker 2: let me say it different. Why would all this stuff
- 45:02Speaker 2: happen if there wasn't a need, if the rapture wasn't true,
- 45:06Speaker 2: there wouldn't be any need to explain what they've been
- 45:10Speaker 2: conditioned to do as it relates to or removal.
- 45:13Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And if in fact this is going to
- 45:15Speaker 3: become an excuse, what would you expect if it is
- 45:17Speaker 3: getting close? Yeah, what we're seeing happen right.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Now, government disclosure and other things and.
- 45:22Speaker 3: So on disclosure not just a spacecraft, but aliens themselves.
- 45:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and again so you think about again astrobiology. NASA's
- 45:29Speaker 2: totally switched over exle planets. Everything. I mean, every magazine
- 45:32Speaker 2: I get now truly is it's all about. They always
- 45:36Speaker 2: have a section on exo planet astrobiology in my astronomy magazine.
- 45:39Speaker 2: You're like, okay, of course evolution is there, and you
- 45:42Speaker 2: have uniformitarian and panspermia and all these other things completely.
- 45:45Speaker 2: Then you have all the Hollywood contributions. Now you have
- 45:48Speaker 2: a government. So they're right, there is six or seven
- 45:51Speaker 2: things that are meant for a very convenient explanation of
- 45:57Speaker 2: the mass subduction of Christians being removed.
- 46:01Speaker 3: So when that event happens, and again when we disappear
- 46:04Speaker 3: they appear, people will already be programmed to come to
- 46:09Speaker 3: the planned conclusion. They're supposed to think. It has nothing
- 46:14Speaker 3: to do with the Bible, has nothing to do with
- 46:16Speaker 3: the Christians. Don't even think the word rapture. It was aliens. Yeah,
- 46:21Speaker 3: that's what caused that massive.
- 46:22Speaker 2: So in the random chance that somebody just happened to
- 46:26Speaker 2: come upon this podcast and it's hearing all this and
- 46:28Speaker 2: they're connecting. Maybe they've been in the New Age like
- 46:30Speaker 2: you have. What do you two things? Talk to them,
- 46:37Speaker 2: what do you want them to do about this? And
- 46:39Speaker 2: then what do you want the Christian to do who's
- 46:41Speaker 2: been hearing this?
- 46:42Speaker 3: Well, one for the non Christian, you need to ask
- 46:45Speaker 3: Jesus Christ to forgive you and to trust that it
- 46:49Speaker 3: was his death and his death alone on the cross
- 46:52Speaker 3: that will forgive you of all your sins. And the
- 46:54Speaker 3: Bible says that if you confess Jesus Christ as Lord
- 46:58Speaker 3: and believe in your heart that God raising the grave view,
- 46:59Speaker 3: we say you need to get saved because there's only
- 47:01Speaker 3: one way out of this mess that's coming to this planet,
- 47:04Speaker 3: and it is and the aliens are not our saviors,
- 47:06Speaker 3: they're demons. You're being duped and servant for sure, exactly.
- 47:10Speaker 3: And uh and I will say, you know, we didn't
- 47:12Speaker 3: even talk about this aspect, but there is one way
- 47:16Speaker 3: on record, one percent of the time, even this is
- 47:19Speaker 3: coming from a secular u of allg just to get
- 47:20Speaker 3: rid of these critters when they come their way. It's
- 47:22Speaker 3: when you rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ
- 47:24Speaker 3: to flee, and they do every single time for the
- 47:27Speaker 3: true born again Christian. But if you're not a Christian,
- 47:30Speaker 3: and if Jesus Christ is not your Lord and Savior,
- 47:33Speaker 3: these things can come your way. Even today, even before
- 47:35Speaker 3: this mass subduction and your toast man been there, done that,
- 47:39Speaker 3: wish it went and bought the T shirt. We we
- 47:41Speaker 3: didn't even get into.
- 47:42Speaker 2: I've had how many years as you spend in the
- 47:44Speaker 2: new way?
- 47:45Speaker 3: Too long? Probably a good at least solid five years
- 47:49Speaker 3: of going down that route. And uh and I will
- 47:52Speaker 3: tell you from experience, when they show up on the scene,
- 47:54Speaker 3: it's completely demonic, absolute utter tear. I've experienced the sleep,
- 47:58Speaker 3: paralysis and things of that nature.
- 47:59Speaker 2: And you were definitely, I mean it came to where
- 48:01Speaker 2: you tried to take your life several times. It's you
- 48:02Speaker 2: weren't dabbling, you were all in.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Oh I was all in. And dare I say we
- 48:05Speaker 3: even bring this out And this might sound weird, but
- 48:07Speaker 3: follow the evidence, the intellectually honest to deal with the facts.
- 48:11Speaker 3: Even a mere belief in UFOs and aliens as they
- 48:14Speaker 3: portray themselves can invite them in.
- 48:17Speaker 2: Right.
- 48:17Speaker 3: It's like people who get involved in the occult you
- 48:19Speaker 3: want to mess with that Wiji board. You want to
- 48:20Speaker 3: go and get do a seance, you want to go
- 48:23Speaker 3: and have your palms read. And that's all cult that
- 48:26Speaker 3: invites demonic activity lickety split. Same thing is with these guys,
- 48:30Speaker 3: why because they're one and the same. But for the
- 48:32Speaker 3: non Christian, you need to realize you need to receive
- 48:35Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior, and then have the
- 48:38Speaker 3: benefit of being a born again Christian so that even
- 48:41Speaker 3: if these critters do show up your way or try
- 48:43Speaker 3: to mess with you, then you have the authority as
- 48:47Speaker 3: a Christian in the name of Jesus Christ to rebuke them.
- 48:50Speaker 3: So there's hope is really want to and to give.
- 48:52Speaker 3: There's hope for escaping what is to come. And that's
- 48:57Speaker 3: why God tells us these things in advance so that
- 49:00Speaker 3: you would be saved from it before it's too late.
- 49:04Speaker 3: And that the benefit of being a born agetting Christian
- 49:06Speaker 3: that in the name authority Jesus Christ, even if you
- 49:08Speaker 3: are dealing with demonic issues, because it happens, then there's
- 49:12Speaker 3: still hope because you don't have to be a slave
- 49:16Speaker 3: to these things and what they do and the evil.
- 49:17Speaker 3: You can rebuke them the name of Jesus christ Number two.
- 49:20Speaker 3: For the Christian, what I would say is get equipped
- 49:24Speaker 3: on this issue because you might say, well, I'm a
- 49:26Speaker 3: Christiant and need to know about uvos and aliens. You guys
- 49:29Speaker 3: are really off the deep end. Now you need to
- 49:31Speaker 3: do it for your loved ones, your neighbors, your co workers,
- 49:35Speaker 3: because again the stats are being go because you need
- 49:38Speaker 3: to get equipped on this because there is a biblical
- 49:41Speaker 3: premise and a biblical answer and a biblical solution to
- 49:43Speaker 3: this right and you are doing a disservice to the
- 49:47Speaker 3: people around you when you say, oh, that's just a
- 49:49Speaker 3: bunch of wacko now, because something really is going on.
- 49:51Speaker 3: They know it, and the fact that you don't admit
- 49:53Speaker 3: it that doesn't help our causes Christians. Christians should be
- 49:56Speaker 3: able to give a defense for the hope that lies
- 49:57Speaker 3: within us, no matter what accusation comes our way, no
- 50:00Speaker 3: matter what scoffing, no matter what. And guess what, there's
- 50:03Speaker 3: a fantastic biblical premise that's what this is all about.
- 50:06Speaker 3: To be able to answer because they're being enthralled with this. Again,
- 50:09Speaker 3: as I mentioned before, UFOs. More people believe in UFOs
- 50:13Speaker 3: and aliens than they do in the existence of God.
- 50:15Speaker 3: More people believe that aliens and this is the United
- 50:18Speaker 3: States of America, believe that aliens have landed on planet Earth.
- 50:21Speaker 3: And Jesus is the Son of God. It's a new
- 50:23Speaker 3: religion for people. So you might think it's bunk, it's blowney,
- 50:26Speaker 3: whatever is a Christian but you need to get equipped
- 50:29Speaker 3: on that because I'll guarantee you you've got family members, neighbors,
- 50:32Speaker 3: coworkers who are sucking this up, who are falling for
- 50:35Speaker 3: this lie.
- 50:35Speaker 2: How could they not?
- 50:36Speaker 3: The whole media, the culture, with all it's already exactly
- 50:39Speaker 3: And we need to be able to intellectually, philosophically, dare
- 50:42Speaker 3: I say, biblically be able to track with them and say, yeah,
- 50:45Speaker 3: I agree there is something going on. Yeah, I agree.
- 50:48Speaker 3: There is something being withhell with us. Yeah, I agree
- 50:51Speaker 3: there is an agenda. Yeah, I agree there there is something.
- 50:54Speaker 3: You can't just all write this off as swamp gas
- 50:56Speaker 3: or you know, some weather that you know, you can't
- 51:00Speaker 3: do that, But you need to get equipped as a
- 51:03Speaker 3: Christians say, but let me tell you, based on the evidence,
- 51:07Speaker 3: what it is, who it is, and why they're here now.
- 51:12Speaker 3: And dare I say, what a great way to share
- 51:14Speaker 3: the gospel. Oh, this is this is people talk about
- 51:17Speaker 3: putting it on a silver platform from God in these days.
- 51:20Speaker 2: Well, these are interesting topics that I'd say maybe in
- 51:23Speaker 2: the church maybe they have their their fear of talking
- 51:25Speaker 2: about these fringes, but the world doesn't. They find it fascinating,
- 51:28Speaker 2: especially younger people. They're very into this. I mean even
- 51:31Speaker 2: the cover itself. They'd be like, oh dude, that's a
- 51:34Speaker 2: cool cover. You know what what's that about? I mean,
- 51:37Speaker 2: here we are right well.
- 51:38Speaker 3: And to use the deal because we had obviously the
- 51:41Speaker 3: non Christian mind to this, because we always want to
- 51:43Speaker 3: share the Gospel. We want people to save, not just
- 51:45Speaker 3: equip the church, but to be saved. And and Mondo.
- 51:47Speaker 3: Really that's also the play on the words that we
- 51:49Speaker 3: wanted to do UFO's and aliens and that what if
- 51:52Speaker 3: we would have said in the coming Rapture, what would
- 51:54Speaker 3: the non Christian do? That's one of those Christian books.
- 51:58Speaker 3: And we weren't being to be deceptive, but we too
- 52:00Speaker 3: reaches me and people's can and basically that is what
- 52:02Speaker 3: the rapture is.
- 52:02Speaker 2: That's the way they're going to describe it.
- 52:04Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh so, but it's also for them, So
- 52:07Speaker 3: like you said, they could pick this up and hopefully
- 52:09Speaker 3: get encouraged. But again, don't wait for the non Christian
- 52:12Speaker 3: to come across this material. Get it now as a
- 52:14Speaker 3: borningga in Christian get equipped and you can share the material.
- 52:16Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Billy, always fun, always a good time.
- 52:19Speaker 3: Thank you too, man.
- 52:20Speaker 2: Yeah, and for those listening today, appreciate you listening to
- 52:24Speaker 2: the weakend Bible prophecy we're talking about. This is absolutely relevant. Yeah,
- 52:29Speaker 2: we're seeing the government come to be, So this isn't
- 52:31Speaker 2: a current this is a current event and you can
- 52:34Speaker 2: check Billy's book out Prophecy Watchers dot com, UFOs Aliens
- 52:37Speaker 2: and the Coming Mass Abduction. Hopefully you've been encouraged by
- 52:41Speaker 2: this and learn some things and also been inspired to
- 52:44Speaker 2: to look deeper. So appreciate you listening this week and
- 52:48Speaker 2: catch us next time.