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041 - Let's Marry Harry Episodes 5 & 6 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle Harris: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt. I'm your host, Michelle. And I'm Matt. We are back for let's Marry Harry. What are we back for? I don't know. Mat: But I'm Matt. We are back for H let's Marry Harry. What are we back for? Michelle Harris: I was about to say I was about to say Secret Lives, but we took a week off. Labor Day happened. We had a lot going on. We saw family and we had a really good time. Yes. It was amazing. A lot of fun, yeah. And so we took a week off. Mat: We did. family and really good time. Family reunion back in Pittsburgh for my family. It was amazing. It was a lot of fun, yeah. And so we took a week off. But we're back. Michelle Harris: But now we're back. Yeah, we're back. Let's Mary Mat: Let's marry Harry. the drama. Michelle Harris: So Steve has been begging that I catch up to him. He been watching and watching Mat: He has been watching. Yeah, it was fun having him on for the the couple episodes. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. Michelle Harris: It was a lot of fun. And it's been even more fun, like chatting with him and texting with him. Him and his wife. They're done, right? They're done. Yeah. They so Steve and Liz. Liz is Liz is Steve's wife, for those that don't know Steve. And they have finished the series, this week. So they are two episodes ahead of me. However, I did Mat: He's they're done, right? Like they're through it. Yeah, okay, so Steve. So don't spoil anything for me. Liz is Steve's wife, for those that don't know Steve. And they have finished the series, this week. So they are two episodes ahead of me. However, I did unfortunately have stuff ruined for me because of like Michelle Harris: Unfortunately have stuff ruined for me because of like when you open a new window in Chrome, all those articles that show up. Yeah. Mat: When you open a new window in Chrome, all those articles that show up. Yeah. I had one that was no. Yeah. Don't tell me, don't tell me. And Michelle Harris: I had one that was who won. So unfortunately no, no, no, I'm not going to. So unfortunately I did have it ruined for me and that's what kicked Steve into high gear because he didn't want it ruined for himself. And so when I was sexy with him, I'm like, unfortunately I know who like who wins so like you know, it's like, you know, here's my prediction for this episode of who makes it. I'm like, but I'm kind of upset because I know the ending. So I'm not gonna ruin it for you. So Mat: Steve into High Gear 'cause he didn't want it ruined for him. Okay, yeah, yeah. And so when I was sexy with him, I'm like, unfortunately I know who like who wins, so like, you know, it's like, you know, here's my prediction for this episode of who makes it. Yeah. I'm like, but I'm kind of upset because I know the ending. So I'm not gonna ruin for you. So Michelle Harris: I didn't ruin for Steve. Steve finished the whole thing. Mat: they didn't ruin for Steve. Steve finished the whole thing. So Rahia came back and they got married. Michelle Harris: We'll have to see. Yeah. I don't want to ruin it for you. I don't want to ruin it for you. Chat GBT Soulmates. Soulmates. Soulmates. So this is episode this is going to be episode five and six. Five and six. And there's two more this. Yes. Yes. Okay. And then the reunion. So we'll do two and we'll do we'll seven and eight. Every show gotta have a fun Mat: Yeah, I mean don't ruin it for me. But like she came back, Chat GBT Soulmates. Soulmates. Soul Alright. So this is episode this is gonna be episode five and six, right? And there's two more after this that we'll do next week. Yes. Okay. And then the reunion. Christ, another fucking reunion. Why's every show gotta have a fucking reunion? Michelle Harris: Because that's when like the drama comes out of like what happened. You know, when something ends and it's like, well like especially that's the end. Well no, no, 'cause like I feel like for especially for dating Mat: The drama ends it's like well especially That's the end. That's it. Let's move on. Michelle Harris: shows it's like it ends and it's like, Well, are they still together? What happened after it? And like a lot of things get aired out of like Well, this is what happened. So not much so much a secret lives 'cause then you just get the next season of it and they're recording that season as Mat: Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Okay. Not much so much of Secret Lives because then you just get the next season of it. my god, Secret Lives. Yeah, the Secret Lives, the timeline, the bullshit. The reunion is like a little bit much, but from a dating dating reality show that's not gonna have a next season. Yeah, we gotta figure out the behind the scenes why, the what's the hows, the who's. Then we're gonna do the reunion episode. Michelle Harris: So Secret Lives with the reunion is like a little bit much, but from a dating dating reality show that's not gonna have a next season to it. So we're gonna do seven eight next week and then a reunion episode. Yeah. Mat: Jesus Christ. Michelle Harris: And I think we're gonna have Steve call in for the reunion episode. I I need I need his be here. Mat: Well might be here. I mean he's still going down the least part. Spring him in I him live. Let's get him live. I need him here. I I need those at him. We need him right here. Right here between us. Steve, we need you here, buddy. All right, tell me about it. Let's go. So let's marry Harry episode five. Michelle Harris: I mean he might be here, but like we have to have a at minimum call in because I need his I I need his opinion. Steve Steve, right here. Steve would need you here, buddy. Anyway, okay. So let's marry Harry episode five. Mat: Alright. So as a reminder, we're down to seven girls. Juliana's excited that Harry chose her to say. Okay. Juliana, I think, is the one that Michelle Harris: Alright. So as a reminder, we're down to seven girls. Juliana's excited that Harry chose her to say. Okay. Juliana, I think, is the one that asked Harry like what citizenship he wants. I think it was Juliana. Who's the girl? Mat: Like like what citizenship he wants. Okay. Who's the girl he gave the ring to? Danelle. Danelle. Danelle. Okay. Yeah. She's still here. She's still there. So she's one of the seven remaining. Okay. So Danelle and Sam are trying to figure Michelle Harris: Danelle. Danelle. Danelle. Okay. Yeah. She's still there. So she's one of the seven. Yes. Yes. So Danelle and Sam are trying to figure out what they're doing for the day 'cause it's another challenge coming up. Okay. They're assuming it's gonna be something like spiritually connection related. The girls and Harry go outside to meet his three friends and they announce that the girls Mat: Okay. They're assuming it's gonna be something like spiritually connection religion. Okay. The girls and Harry go outside to meet his three friends, and they announce that the girls Michelle Harris: today are going th going to go through a challenge that is focused on being vulnerable. Okay. They're going to push the girls to go even deeper with Harry. Mat: today are going to go through a challenge that is focused on being vulnerable. Okay. They're going to push the girls to go even deeper with Harry. Michelle Harris: So how this challenge is set up is that the seven girls that are sitting there, it's gonna be the seven girls and Harry, and the three friends are each gonna read a statement. If the statement is true to them, they're gonna stand up. Mat: So how this challenge is set up is that the seven girls that are sitting there, it's gonna be the seven girls and Harry. Okay. And the three friends are each gonna read a statement. If the statement is true to them, they're gonna stand up. Michelle Harris: And then after everyone stands up, they're gonna have a chance to share with the group why they stood up. Why they stood up. Okay. Mat: And after everyone stands up, they're gonna have a chance to share with the group why they stood up. Why they stood up. Okay. All right. This makes sense. Michelle Harris: His guy friend Sonny says that Harry has been known to use humor and charm to avoid pain. So he is intrigued and excited that Harry is going to participate in this to be a part of it. Mat: His guy friend Sonny says that Harry has been known to use humor and charm to avoid pain. So he is intrigued and excited that Harry is going to participate in this to be a part of it. Okay. Michelle Harris: The friends read statements and the first one that is read he's standing up and all that too, like Yeah, he's a part of it too. Yeah. So like the girls are standing up if if they feel it's true. He's also standing up if correct. Okay, cool. So the first statement is read and it says, I've been told I was too much or not enough Then they ask the girls to stand up if that is true. Okay. Mat: The friends read statements and the first one is like he's standing up and all that too? Like Yeah. like he's part of it. So like the girls are standing up if if they feel it's true. He's also standing up if Okay, okay. Okay, cool. So the first statement is read and it says, I've been told I was too much or not enough Then they ask the girls to stand up if that is true. Okay. Michelle Harris: Amber shares that she's been told that she's too much because she is so sassy. Harry says that he has been told that he is not enough because of the level of effort he puts in relationships. Mat: Amber shares that she's been told that she's too much because she is so sassy. Harry says that he has been told that he is not enough because of the level of effort he puts in relationships. Okay. So I'm gonna kinda go through some of these because some of the explanations I was like, okay, whatever. So I'm sure I I I have every statement written. Yeah. And then I'm just gonna share the ones that I felt like. Michelle Harris: So I'm gonna kinda go through some of these 'cause some of the explanations I was like, okay, whatever. So I'm just gonna r I I have every statement written and then I'm just gonna share the ones that I felt like were important to the whole story. Mat: important to the whole story. Yeah. The next statement read was I've tried to hold it all together when I was falling apart. Michelle Harris: The next statement read was I've tried to hold it all together when I was falling apart. Mat: Maya B shares that this whole situation has been a lot for her and she's having so many feelings right now. So she's saying like she's holding it together right now, but through this whole experience she's been falling apart. And she doesn't feel like herself. Okay. The friends kind of ask her Michelle Harris: Maya B shares that this whole situation has been a lot for her and she's having so many feelings right now. So she's saying like she's holding it together right now, but through this whole experience she's been falling apart and she doesn't feel like herself. Okay. The friends kind of ask her So you Mat: So you Michelle Harris: feel like you're falling apart, what specific aspect and she doesn't really answer that to them. So it was kinda like I feel like she could have used a better example in her life of that feeling. Yeah. This probably wasn't the best saying like I feel like I'm falling apart right now and I'm not myself was probably not the best move in this moment. Right. The friends are not gonna Mat: feel like you're falling apart, what specific aspect and she doesn't really answer that to them. Okay. So it was kinda like I feel like she could have used a better example in her life of that feeling. Yeah. This probably wasn't the best saying, like, I feel like I'm falling right now and I'm not myself. Right and not And not giving an example of why like the friends are not gonna try and keep you now if you can't Michelle Harris: Right. Mat: be like because Of these experiences prior, yeah. This is where I'm at. I'm falling apart and I have no idea why. Yeah, you're gone. So yeah. So Harry shares the fact that he had to be the man in his family, because he does have sisters. I don't think he has another actual brother. He has sisters and then his mom. He had to be the man in the family when his father passed away, to be there for everyone when he was also strong. Michelle Harris: Because of because Harry did this or the girls did this or like, you know, I'm like this is where I'm at. Falling apart and I have no idea why you're gone. Yeah. So Harry shares the fact that he had to be the man in his family 'cause he does have sisters. He I don't think he has another actual brother. He has sisters and then his mom. He had to be the man in the family when his father passed away and it was tough to be there for everyone when he was also struggling. Mat: Okay, yeah, that's fair. The next statement was I've fallen for someone who didn't feel the same way while the girls stood up and talked about either ex husbands or ex relationships and all that. Okay. The next statement was I feel like I truly haven't been in love before. Michelle Harris: The next statement was I've fallen for someone who didn't feel the same way. A lot of the girls stood up and talked about either ex-husbands or ex relationships and all that. The next statement was, I feel like I truly haven't been in love before. And Danelle is the only one that stands up during this and she says she says looking back on her relationship, she doesn't think that she's been in love, but in the moment she thought she was. So probably more like she's been in lust than in love. Right, right. But I think Harry kinda took that as a red flag as like so you've never had your heart truly broken 'cause you've never been in love. Right, okay. That's what I took from Mat: And Danelle is the only one that stands up during this. And she says, she says, looking back on her relationship, she doesn't think that she's been in love, but in the moment she thought she was. So it's kind of more like she's been in lust than in love. Right, right. But I think Harry kinda took that as a red flag, as like, So you've never had your heart truly broken 'cause you've never been in love. Right, okay. That's what I took. Michelle Harris: it. Yeah, yeah. Mat: Yeah, yeah. He did not say that. The next statement was I've lost someone before I was ready to say goodbye to them. Michelle Harris: He did not say that. The next statement was, I've lost someone before I was ready to say goodbye to them. So a lot of the girls stand up for this. Jade shares that her dad passed away in twenty twenty from COVID and that was very difficult for her and she wasn't able she was able to say goodbye to him because she was in the nursing field, but it was too soon. So for her, she wasn't ready to say goodbye to him. Mat: So a lot of the girls stand up for this. Jade shares that her dad passed away in twenty twenty from COVID and that was very difficult for her, and she wasn't able she was able to say goodbye to him because she was in the nursing field. Okay. But it was too soon, so for her, she wasn't ready to say goodbye to him. Right. Michelle Harris: Sam shares about a mother figure in her life that passed away three years ago that she wasn't ready to lose. Amber shares that her dad passed away when she was nine from a drowning 'cause Mat: Sam shares about a mother figure in her life that passed away three years ago that she wasn't ready to lose. Amber shares that her dad passed away when she was nine from a drowning husband. He was an underwater photographer, so that was really traumatic. Yeah. and then Harry obviously stood up because his father had passed away a year prior. Wow. Okay. All of them had lost someone. Michelle Harris: he was an underwater photographer, so that was pretty traumatic. and then Harry obviously stood up because his father had passed away a year prior. So all of them had lost someone. Someone stood up and was like I forgot I didn't write it down but it wasn't the three of them or Harry. So I th it was either Maya Abby. Mat: Someone stood up and was like, I forgot I didn't write it down but it wasn't the three of them or Harry, so I th it was either Maya Abby, Michelle Harris: And they stood up and it was just like it was about like losing someone like in regards to like a love instead of like losing someone as like right. So she they're like I took this question as like a little bit different. Yeah. And so she's like, obviously this isn't as traumatic So she d they did acknowledge that, so she's like Listen, I'm standing 'cause it but like Mat: And they stood up and it was just like it was about like losing someone like in regards to like a love instead like losing someone. like actually like passing away. Yeah. Like I took this question as like a little bit different. Yeah. And so she's like, Yeah, obviously this isn't as As traumatic or heavy as everybody else's experiences. Yeah. Yeah. But like Michelle Harris: I I understand where everyone else is coming from and I feel for them. Mat: understand where everyone else is. Yeah, I mean you have a parent like pass away unexpectedly. Right. That's right. A parent or a last part was that they had to write down one word that describes their deepest insecurity that they bring to a relationship. They then have to break that tile with the word on it to release that insecurity and a giant pot and they have to like smash that Michelle Harris: Right. Right. Right. A parent or a friend or whatever. The last part was that they had to write down one word that describes their deepest insecurity that they bring to a relationship. They then have to break that tile with the word on it to release that insecurity. And so they have a giant pot and they have to like smash that tile into it. So they go one by one. Amber writes loss because it's she's terrified of the experience of losing her mother, like what her mother had to go to. She's like, My mom lost my dad and they were in love and loved one another and I just like don't Mat: So they go one by one. Amber writes loss because it's she's terrified of the experience of losing her mother, like what her mother had to go to. It's like my mom lost my dad and they were in love and loved one another and I just like don't Michelle Harris: want to experience that. Right. Juliana writes settling. she doesn't want to settle for p someone that's not worth it and she wants to make sure that someone is worthy of her love. Mat: To experience that. Right. Juliana writes settling. she doesn't want to settle for p someone that's not worth it, and she wants to make sure that someone is worthy of her love. Okay. Emma also writes settling. Maya B wrote infidelity. Dunnelle wrote trust. Okay. Sam wrote resentment resent. She wrote resent. Resent. I think she meant resentment and like the she like resent. Michelle Harris: Emma also writes Settling. Maya B wrote Infidelity. Dunnelle wrote Trust. Okay. Sam wrote Resent Resent. She wrote Resent. Resentment. I think she meant resentment and like the fact that she like resented Mat: Risen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Would you hear that like I don't know. Michelle Harris: Yeah. So like she wrote that, I'm like I don't know. I personally would judge someone that would write just resent, 'cause I'm like, what the hell does that mean? Mat: 'cause I'm what the hell does that mean? Yeah. That's fine. Abby wrote abandonment and then Harry wrote to lose love. so he's worried about losing love in the sense of his dad I guess like one of the last things he like the conversations he had with his dad was about how much Michelle Harris: Abby wrote abandonment and then Harry wrote to lose love. so he's worried about losing love in the sense of his dad I guess like one of the last things he like the conversations he had with his dad was about how much Mat: he did love his mother because they were divorced at the time he he Michelle Harris: He did love his mother, because they were divorced at the time. How he did love his mother, he he regretted like how it ended, all that. So he's like, I don't want to lose the love of my life. So at the end of all this, the friends are gonna pick two people to go on one-on-one dates with Harry. And they decide that Amber and Sam were the most honest and vulnerable with Harry, and they're gonna go on dates him. Mat: Like how it ended, all that. So he's like, I don't want to lose the love amen. Okay. So at the end of all this, the friends are gonna pick two people to go on one-on-one dates with Harry. And decide that Amber and Sam were the most honest and vulnerable with Harry, and they're gonna go ahead and Harry and Amber. Michelle Harris: Harry and Amber take a drive to an overlook in LA and they share a glass of wine. Not share, but they have a glass of wine. I will say it's pretty cool. Like they drove a convertible up there. It had a very beautiful view of the city. And then it caught my eye that there's like a projector screen there. And I'm like, so they're gonna like watch a movie. Right. Yeah, like they're gonna watch a movie and share a glass of wine and just like hang out. And then Mat: take drive to an overlook in LA and they share a glass of wine. Not share, but of wine. I will say it's pretty cool. Like they drove a convertible up there. It had a very beautiful view of the city. And it caught my eye that there's like a projector screen there. And I'm like, so they're gonna like watch a movie It's like a drive in movie theater? Yeah, like they're gonna watch a movie or a glass of wine and just like hang out. Yeah. And then Michelle Harris: After they have a conversation about how Amber shares the love of photography with her dad, Harry asks like what a perfect guy is to her and what does he look like and Amber says he's the size of a giraffe and wears cardigans, like and Harry's wear a cardigan. So AK I mean he's tall. I think it's like the fact that he's tall Mat: Harry asks like what a perfect guy is, to her and what does he look like. And Amber says he's the size of a giraffe Like and Harry's wearing a cardigan. The size of a gira like what the f he's a long ass neck? I mean he's tall. I think it's like the fact that he's tall. He's got a five foot neck and he wears a cardigan. He's the size of a giraffe. Let me see this man. Michelle Harris: Size of a drap. Mat: I wanna see this man. Michelle Harris: Harry so then Harry shares that he has a surprise for Amber and he plays a slideshow of family photos of Amber with her dad on the projector. Where did you get this from? So this is what I'm like so like why I mean I'm sure the show reached out to all the families like, can you provide us photos? Like childhood photos or photos. Mat: Harry So then Harry shares that he has a surprise for Amber and he plays a slideshow of family photos of Amber with her dad on the projector. Where did he get this from? So this is what I'm like, so like What? I mean, I'm sure the show reached out to all the families, like, can you provide us photos? Like childhood. Right, and then a But then I'm like Michelle Harris: But then at the end of the video, messages from her family, like video messages of like, I hope you're doing well and stay true to yourself and trust the process, like pops up. This is a lot. It was a lot. So I'm like, so it's just for her. And then it was like Harry on the screen. And it switches it switches to a slideshow of Harry's life. And then two of his sisters and his nephews leave video messages for him. Mat: Video messages from her family, like video messages of like, I hope you're doing well and stay true to yourself and trust the process like pops up. This is a lot. It was a lot. So I'm like, so it's just for her. And then it was like Harry on the screen. And it's just suicide of Harry's life. Okay. Two of his sisters and his nephews leave video messages for him. and they're all Michelle Harris: and they're all cr they're both crying and Mat: They're both crying. Michelle Harris: like it's emotional and I will s I will say that like the messages were cute and the photos were cute. It definitely gives you a glimpse into and I think it's an important part into his life and Mat: Like into his life and his like with his with his family and all that. Yeah, no, that's great. Michelle Harris: family and like understanding dynamics and asking questions of like who is that and like who is this and like I think that's a very important part especially when you're like going into marriage. Like if this truly is ending in marriage this was a good date to put both of them in that mindset. Yeah. Yeah. However I'm like Mat: this and like I think that's a very important part, especially when you're like going into marriage. Like if this truly is ending in marriage Yeah. Uhhuh. This was a good date to put both of them in that mindset. Yeah, yeah. However I'm like, Michelle Harris: Shouldn't he do this with the other girls? Mat: shouldn't he do this with the other girls? Michelle Harris: Especially if like you're narrowing it down like so you only know Amber's like dynamics with her family? Like it just seemed a little weird to me that I'm like this with seven girls left, they decided to do this date at this point. Like I feel like they should have saved this date for like a little bit on like further on. Mat: Especially if like you're narrowing it down like so you only know Amber's like dynamics with the family. Yeah. It just seemed a little weird to me that I'm like this with seven girls left, they decided to do this date at this point. With just two? I like they should have saved this date for like a little bit like for like like two or three girls left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. And do it with each girl. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Michelle Harris: Three girls left. Yeah, yeah. I and do it with each girl, you know, like not necessarily have to show Harry's side every single time, but like him to see that girl's life, you know? So Mat: Him to see that girl's life. You know? Yeah. So Michelle Harris: anyway, that's my opinion. at the end of the date, Harry is feeling very strong for Amber. You can tell that they are very connected very spiritually and that like this is the first time I feel like Amber and Mat: Spiritually and that like this is the first time I feel like Amber and Michelle Harris: Harry have had like that deep connection that I've seen. Mat: I don't really remember the name Amber, so to me like this is the not one of like the standout girls. Like to me, Amber doesn't sound like a Steve didn't like Amber. Okay. Well I mean going into last episode that he's like I don't like Amber. Steve likes Abby. Abby, so Michelle Harris: Yeah. To me Yeah. This is the not one of the standout girls. Yeah. Like I agree. Amber I agree. And Steve didn't like Amber. Okay. Like going into last episode that he's like, I don't like Amber. Steve likes Abby. Abby. Yeah. Yeah. Mat: he's not an Amber fan, he's not an anybody fan but Abby, so Michelle Harris: The next morning Harry is in the confessional and says that the date with Amber was probably the most perfect date he's ever been on. Harry says he's feeling the pressure being down to only seven girls and he needs the next couple of days to be very serious. Harry and Sam then leave for their one-on-one. Mat: The next morning Harry is in a confessional and says that the date with Amber was probably the most perfect date he's ever been on. Harry says he's feeling pressure being down to only seven girls, and he needs the next couple of days to be very serious. Okay. Harry and Sam then leave for their one on one. Michelle Harris: As they're leaving, two of the girls were watching them saying how good Harry looks in denim. So he's like on a denim on denim like outfit right Mat: As they're leaving, two of the girls are watching them saying how good Harry looks in denim, so he's like on a denim on denim like all therapy. Michelle Harris: now. A little bit. One of the girls that I couldn't see in frame, so like I tried to pause to figure out who it was, but it's like she's like denim on denim, meow, meow. And then Mat: What is it got like his Canadian tuxedo going? A little bit. Okay. One of the girls that I couldn't see in frame, so I like I tried to pause to figure out who it was, but it's like she was like denim on denim, meow, meow. Michelle Harris: and then Julie Hannah just responds squirt. And I was like, this is so weird and someone intentionally put this little clip in. Okay. Sam and Harry Juliana, I d I don't like her. I just I don't. Mat: This is so weird and someone intentionally. Okay. Juliana, I I don't like everything. Michelle Harris: I don't. I don't like what she says. I don't like how she presents what herself. So Sam and Harry make it to a ranch, Mat: All right. So Sam and Harry make it to a ranch. Michelle Harris: to ride horses. Mat: Okay. Sam looks at Harry and says, Remember what my favorite position was? And Harry says, Cowgirl? And then my. Michelle Harris: Sam looks at Harry and says, Remember what my favorite position was? And Harry says, Cowgirl. In an interview, Harry says that Sam is a freaky girl. Okay. They ride the horses up to like a little quiet seating area for them to have like a one-on-one conversation. And at this point, like in my head, I'm like, We've only seen Sam really like make out with him, make out with him, and then like provide very Mat: And at this point, like in my head, I'm like, we've only seen Sam really like make out with him, make out with him, and then like provide very Michelle Harris: one off like freaky comments. And then at the same time, she's never had a very serious conversation with him. But like with the other girl, she's very quiet and reserved. So like Mat: one-off, like freaky comments. And then at the same time, she's never had a very serious conversation with him, but like the other girl, she's very quiet and reserved. So like not a whole lot coming from Sam. Yeah. But like the friends really like her from the beginning from the Michelle Harris: Not a whole lot coming from her, but like the friends really like her from the beginning, from the get go. So like she is like a number one contender, but it's like you just want her to have those deep conversations with him. And they haven't had that yet. Mat: So like she is like a number one contender, but like you just want her to have those deep conversations. Right, you need little more from her. And he they haven't had that yet. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So Michelle Harris: So Harry asks Sam about her childhood. Sam does open up that she didn't have a close relationship with her mom or her dad growing up and her dad did struggle with mental health issues Mat: Sam about her childhood. Sam does open up that she didn't have a close relationship with her mom or her dad growing up. Okay. And her dad did struggle with mental health issues. Michelle Harris: and she had to be strong for herself and for her family. Harry asked about mother figure that had passed away that she lost that she talked about and she explained that it was actually her ex's mom who she was with her ex for eight years. Okay. Yeah. Mat: And she had to be strong for herself and for her family. Harry asked about the mother figure that had passed away that she lost that she talked about and she explained that it was actually her ex's mom who she was with her ex for eight years. Okay. Yeah. She said that that person showed up for her and showed her the love that she had never gotten as a kid and it was very hard for her losing that. Michelle Harris: She said that that person showed up for her and showed her the love that she had never gotten as a kid and it was very hard for her losing that. so she said as a kid she grew up with very like tough love and her ex's mom kinda showed her like a little bit more of like that gentle parenting and support. Yeah. Sam then kinda quickly switches Mat: Yeah. She said as a kid she grew up with very like tough love and her ex's mom kind of showed her like a little bit more of like that gentle Yeah, was there for her, yeah. Okay. Sam then kind of quickly switches the conversation back to Harry. And tell that she's like not opened up, but she's not comfortable being like being fully yeah, opened up, yeah. Okay. So she asked Harry about his dad and Harry tells Michelle Harris: the conversation back to Harry and you can tell that she's like not she opened up but she's not comfortable being like that open. opened up, yeah. Okay. So she asks Harry about his dad and Harry tells Mat: her about his father and shares a lot about that. Sam in an interview says that she is in very strong like with Harry right now and she's getting there in terms of Michelle Harris: her about his father and shares a lot about that. Sam in an interview says that she is in very strong like with Harry right now and she's getting there in terms of like love. Mat: like love. Okay. She's very she's a very strong in very strong like very strong like Michelle Harris: So she's very in she's a very strong in very strong like. Very strong like. Mat: okay. Harry and Sam get back to the house. Some of Michelle Harris: Harry and Sam get back to the house. Some of the girls are playing Jenga with questions on it. One of the questions was how many people have kissed Harry. Maya B says that she's probably the person that's kissed him the least. But then Donnell asked her how many times like that they've kissed. it looks like she was about to break on like well, we've like had sex, like Mat: people have kissed Harry. Maya B says that she's probably the person that's kissed him the least. But then Danelle asked her how many times like that they've kissed. it looks like she was about to break on like well we've like s had sex, like yeah, before like D Who Danel, yeah. That's the one he gave the ring to it looked like she was kinda being like so like like it kinda was Michelle Harris: You know, before like Danelle? Danelle, yeah. Yeah. So like sh it looked like she was kinda being like so like ki like it kinda looks like she was like Yeah, so like she was like, What do I say anything? And then she's like she was like one, two, three and I'm like, You might as well count like fifteen Mat: Yeah, so she was like anything I'm like, you might as well have like fifty Michelle Harris: girl Emma says in an interview that she's trying not to compare her relationship to the other girls, but it's hard Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: not to. She's gotten in her head about it and she believes that Harry hates her and wishes and wishes that she was dead. Mat: She's gotten in her head about it and she believes that Harry hates her. my. And wishes that she was dead. She's one of seven out of twenty left. Like what's going on, girl? Come on. Okay, to that point. She's one of seven left, but to this Michelle Harris: I know, I know. But but okay, to that point. She's one of seven left, but to this point the friends have had the say. Yeah, yeah. So Mat: Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: you've never been told or picked by Harry. Right. You've just haven't been on the chopping chopping block. Yeah, fair. Mat: Right, okay. Yeah, fair, fair. In that same regard, I feel for Emma in the sense of like when someone doesn't talk to me in a certain way or I start getting off eyes I'm like, they hate me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. It just was a little dramatic though. he wants me dead. He wants me dead. I don't think Michelle Harris: In that same regard, I feel for Emma in the sense of like when someone doesn't talk to me in a certain way or I start getting off eyes, I'm like, they hate me. They like and I I get it. It just was a little dramatic that he wants me dead like it's like I don't think I've ever gone to they want me dead. I'm like, they don't like me. They don't like me, they don't want to be around me. Like, yeah. Yeah. Mat: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a bit that's a bit much. It's a bit much. Okay, all right. Michelle Harris: Meanwhile Juliana's in the living room, and she's complaining that Harry isn't prioritizing her and pulling her for a chat and she's gonna see how tonight goes even if he lets like she's like even if he lets me talk to him. Abby at that point yells He saved you so like stop fucking complaining. Okay, right. Mat: And she's gonna see how tonight goes, even if he lets like she like even if he lets me talk to him. Abby at that point yells, He saved you so like stop fucking complaining. Okay, right, right. And she's going Juliana's going on and on and on about how it's not fair for him to Michelle Harris: And she's going Juliana is going on and on and on about how it's not fair for him to allow the other girls an opportunity to get like where they are. She was like, We are already at that point. So for him to like slow me down for the other girls to catch up is unfair because I'm already there and he loves me. I know he loves me. Like, he gave another girl a ring. Mat: opportunity to get like where they are. She was like, We are already at that point. So for him to like slow me down for the other girls to catch up is unfair because I'm already there and he loves me. I know he loves me. he gave another girl a ring. Michelle Harris: But she doesn't know that. Like she doesn't know that. Mat: Like slow your roll shoot your roll he gave another Michelle Harris: He gave another Mat: girl a fucking ring. Michelle Harris: Meanwhile it cuts like a very sweet moment between Emma and Harry, 'cause Emma had pulled Harry aside to be like, H like, how are we doing? And like, Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: what do you think? And like Harry's like, I think we're doing good and like it re-solidified that for Emma and she's like, Okay and like they're kissing and like cuddling like canoodling. Mat: And like they're kissing and like cuddling and like cadoodling. Okay. Then it goes back to Juliana bitching something else. Michelle Harris: Then it goes back to Juliana bitching to just and like at that point just Abby's in the room and Abby in an interview looks like she's about to fucking lose her mind. She's like, my fucking God Abby says she's not here for anyone Mat: Like she's about to fucking lose her mind. Abby says she's not here for Michelle Harris: else's feeling but her own and she just needs tunnel vision at this point. Mat: Yeah, no, no. Forget about these other girls. You're there for yourself, you're there for Harry. Let's let's move on. Don't don't feed into this bullshit. Michelle Harris: Let's let's move on. Don't feed into this bullshit. It cuts back to Juliana saying that Harry needs to show up for her, and then finally Abby goes, You need to tell him about how you feel. So Juliana took that and then went up to Harry's room to have a conversation with her. Mat: Okay. All right. Juliana tells Harry that she feels a connection Michelle Harris: Juliana tells Harry that she feels a connection but doesn't know what's going on in Harry's head. Harry says he really likes her, and Juliana doubles down and says she wants Harry to say I love you. Like she like want she's like enticing him to be like, It's more than you're into me. It's more than this. Like we have a connection. Harry keeps saying that he can't do this right now. There's seven girls left. Mat: Harry says he really likes her, and Juliana doubles down and says she wants Harry to say I love you. Like she like w she's like enticing him to be like, N it's more than you're into me. It's more than this. Like, we have a connection. Harry keeps saying that he can't do this right now. There's seven girls left. Like, what are we? It also just doesn't seem sober at this point. Okay. Alright. Michelle Harris: He also just doesn't seem sober at this point. I'm just gonna point that out. Mat: I mean I just wanna point out I also am not sober at this point. This Michelle Harris: I convinced him to maybe delay this podcast, so I apologize. Mat: is football Sunday at I don't know, seven seven thirty, so yeah. Steelers won, thank goodness. Ravens won. Fuck the Ravens. But here we are. In Baltimore. It is what it is. Fuck the Ravens. Michelle Harris: All right, let's keep going. Let's keep let's keep going. At this point so let's let's get back into this. Let's get back let's get back to the podcast. So Mat: Let's get back. Let's get back to the podcast. So Michelle Harris: at this point Juliana i is basically gaslighting Harry. I thi this is my words, but like she's gaslighting him. And Mat: Basically gaslighting curry. I th this is my words, but like she's Okay, all right. And Michelle Harris: She's saying, Have you not felt this way for someone in such a short amount of time? Like and Harry just like is like, This is wild. She keeps saying, If you say it, I'll say it And at that point I'm like, What are you five? Like like if you say it I say it, like I'll say it. Like, you know And then they start kissing and she backs up and whispers, I love you to him after they Mat: She's saying, Have you not felt this way from someone in such a short amount of time? Like and Harry just like is like this is wild. She keeps saying, If you say it, I'll say it's like, What are you five? Like Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you say it, I'll say it And then they start kissing and she backs up and whispers, I love you to him. my Michelle Harris: kiss. Mat: goodness. Harry just goes, Well that's a statement. Michelle Harris: Harry just goes, Well that's a statement Meanwhile Abby's walking up the stairs to see where Harry's at. Okay. Juliana's asking if Harry can see her as his wife. He says yes. She says why? And he goes, Because I love you. And they both go, like he's like, shit, like I like said it. Like she like coaxed it out of me. Harry in an interview says that he should have not said that to her 'cause he was not there yet Mat: Stairs to see where Harry's at. Okay. Juliana's asking if Harry can see her as his wife. He says yes. She says, Why? And he goes, Because I love you. my, okay. Like he's like, shit, like I like said it. Like, my, okay. Alright, okay. Harry in an interview says that he should have not said that to her 'cause he was not there yet. Michelle Harris: with her. Mat: Mm-hmm. So this is the toxic side of the love bombing that he warned her about. Yeah. That he told his friends about, which is why they're Well he kept her, right? Told her to leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: So this is the toxic side of the love bombing that he warned her about. Yeah. That he told his friends about, which is why they told to leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Mat: my. Okay. Michelle Harris: Abby walks into the room and asks if he she can have some alone time with Harry and Harry goes, Yeah. Juliana in an interview says Harry loves me. I know it. She says she's gonna need for him to say it again because it took forty fucking minutes for it her to get it out of him. And she's like like that where it's like, you know when someone like like where it's like unnecessary to swear? Yeah. Mat: says Harry loves me, I know it. She says she's gonna need for him to say it again because it took forty fucking minutes for her to get it out of him. And she's not like that where it's like you know what something like where it's like unnecessary to swear. Yeah. like she's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Yeah. Also like it was like, my god. He probably didn't want to say it. Like Michelle Harris: It took forty fucking minutes. Like and it's like w why was that the emphasis? Like why it was like, my god. Yeah. She's like, I'm gonna need him to say it again. not gonna say it again. Meanwhile So Juliana Mat: He's not gonna say it again. Michelle Harris: at that point I didn't write this on but Juliana looks at Harry and goes, Do you want me to leave? And Harry's like, Yeah, yeah, I'll go find you later. Mat: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Juliana starts walking out and Harry goes to Abby, like, Where do you wanna go? So Juliana took that as Harry didn't want Abby to be there 'cause he asked, Where do you wanna go? Meanwhile, as she's walking out of the room, Michelle Harris: Juliana starts walking out and Harry goes to Abby, like, where do you wanna go? So Juliana took that as Harry didn't want Abby to be there because he asked, Where do you wanna go? Meanwhile, as she's walking out of the room Abby's straddling Harry on the bed making out with him and then he like flips her over and like he's like full on like on top of this girl making out with her. So clearly he's not that upset that she's in this room with him. And that was Harry's point in an interview was like, How can I tell you I love you and then thirty seconds later be in bed with another woman? Is he just spitting in Abby's mouth? Probably. I mean they're definitely swapping saliva Mat: Abby's straddling Harry on the bed making out with him and then he like flips her over and like he's like full on like on top of this girl making out with her. So clearly he's not that upset that she's in this room. Right, right. And that was Harry's point in an interview was like, how can I tell you I love you and then thirty seconds later be in bed with Yeah. So he's just spitting in Abby's mouth. Probably. I mean they're definitely talking to the violence. Michelle Harris: so At this point, Juliana's in the kitchen telling other girls about their conversation and I was like, Girl, give it a r like she's like literally like we're in love and this is like she's like trying to make the other girls feel like their connections with him are like moot. Mat: we're in love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's up there making out with Abby. Michelle Harris: And all the other girls are clearly upset that he had told her that he loves her. And Abby thinks that if Juliana is saying the truth about Harry, he should just come out and call the shot right now and end the experiment. just end the Yeah. She was like, Then then end it. Like end it. Like what am I doing here? Yeah. Mat: if Juliana is saying the truth about Harry, he should just come out and call the shot right now experiment. just end end it off. And then end it. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. We're we're all wasting our time. We're wasting our time, they're wasting their time. Why are we going through eight episodes? What are we on? Five right now? we are on episode five right now? Let's just Michelle Harris: Right. we are on episode five, we're almost on. Let's just Juliana, you got it. Shut this down. What about Mat: Juliana, you got it. Marion, let's shut this down. please follow us on Instagram. I don't know. I don't know. I guess R Rakaia didn't make it. Sorry, Rakaia. Follow us on Instagram at reality hits Matt. Michelle Harris: What about your girl? I don't know. I don't know. What about Rakhaya? No, we still got like we still got a little bit like Mat: All right, let's keep going, I guess. So Rakai's coming back. Is that what you're saying? Michelle Harris: going I Rakai's coming back? Is that what you're saying? I'm just saying like we gotta wait. So the the spoiler is Rakaia comes back. We gotta we gotta wait. No only no one wants Juliana. Let's go. We need you back Mat: so th the spoiler is Rakaya comes back. Shit. Alright. Rakayah, let's go. We need you back. Let's go. Michelle Harris: The next day Abby pulls Harry aside and says that she was upset last night and that she could have used him as support. He asked why what's up and she says, I felt like there was a connection that was strong, but it's hard hearing from other people the conversations that they have with him. He goes, Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: Well what conversation? And she says, Well, the conversation you had with Juliana. Harry politely tells her not to worry about that. And that the relationships that he's in with the different girls are in different stages, but like overall, like don't concern yourself is like kinda like where he got. In the confessional, Harry says that he hates that Abby is upset. He doesn't think that a good version of himself comes out when he's around Mat: Okay. Right. In the confessional Harry says that he hates that Abby is upset. He doesn't think that a good version of himself comes out when he's Michelle Harris: Juliana and vice versa. Mat: Mm-hmm. Harry meets up with his three friends and they're talking about the girls and you know his what's going on. Yeah. They all really like Amber. Harry says that his date with Sam was really nice and he feels a connection. Harry says Danelle is a strong person for him. They talk about Juliana and he's Danelle's the one to give the ring to, right? Michelle Harris: Harry meets up with his three friends and they're talking about the girls and you know his what's going on. They all really like Amber. Harry says that his date with Sam was really nice and he feels a connection. Harry says Danelle is a strong person for him. They talk about Juliana and he tells the one to give the ring to, right? Yes. Mat: Okay. They talk about Michelle Harris: They talk about Juliana and he tells him about his conversation with her. He says that they made the right decision last week. Mat: like to cut her. Yeah. They're like twice now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time we've cut somebody, you save them, and then they're Michelle Harris: Which is like they're like we've done this twice now and twice now we've eliminated the girl. Right. Mat: gone. So here we go. Cut her, Michelle Harris: Ha ha ha. Mat: save her, gone. Alright, great. They've talked about Maya B. Harry said that. Michelle Harris: They talk about Maya B. Harry said that he was not impressed with her during the challenge. She did not speak up a lot or show any empathy towards any of the other girls and he does not feel like Maya B is for him. They talk about Emma. They all like Emma. Sonny points out that she is a slow burn and something that might spark and something that might not. So they're still a little bit concerned about Emma, but they still Mat: He does not feel like Maya B is for him. Okay. They talk about Emma, they all like Emma. Sonny points out that she is a slow burn and something that might spark and something that might not. So they're still a little bit concerned about Emma. I don't even know who Emma is at this point. Emma Michelle Harris: Am I Mat: Have we heard about Emma much? I don't remember much. I mean it's not that's not on me. I mean I I I mean it is on me. I may have just forgot about her, but it doesn't this doesn't ring a bell to me. We're gonna get to final Michelle Harris: Yes. I don't remember. It's been a while, but yes. That's not on me. I mean I I it is on the I forgot. Yeah. This doesn't run out. No, we're getting into the final girls and we're gonna like learn a lot more about each of them, but Emma has sorry, Emma. Yeah. If you're listening. No, she she has been Mat: Okay. Yeah. S I'm sorry, Emma. If you're if you're listening, I'm sorry. Michelle Harris: around and she has been kinda one of those like back of the pack girls, but like Mat: Yeah yeah. Michelle Harris: She also hasn't been someone I'm like, no, like you need to go. Like you know, like she's just been like one of those people which I think is if you're listening, Michelle, you need to go. No, I said no, she doesn't need to go. Like I'm not no, no, like I'm like I'm sitting there being like No, she doesn't need to go. Like it's like we're we're here for you, girl. No And when we get into episode six we'll talk way more about her. Mat: okay. All right. Well Emma, if you're listening, I'm sorry. Michelle No, I said no, she doesn't need to go. I thought you said she needs to go. I'm like I'm sitting there. you said, she needs to go. She doesn't need to go. Emma, we're f we're here for you, girl. Let's go, Emma. And when we get into episode six, we'll talk about it. I'm so fucking confused right now. I'm up, I'm down on Emma. Emma. Michelle Harris: No no. I think as we get into the next episode now that we're down, like it's like yeah. Emma Mat: We're here for you. We're rooting for you, Emma. Michelle Harris: We're here for you. I do I do really like Emma now that I Mat: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Emma, you're welcome on the show anytime. Let's go. Yes, she seems awesome. Yeah, you're awesome, Emma. So anyway, so Sunny is a fan of her, but just like it's kinda one of those things where it's like, this is a good fit for you, but like it's just something that needs time and this Yeah. I mean we're eight. Eight we've got eight episodes to like Michelle Harris: yes. Yes, she seems awesome. Yeah, So anyway, so Sunny is a fan of her, but just like it's kinda one of those things where it's like this is a good fit for you, but like it's just something that needs time and this this one minute. We don't have time. We don't have time. Right. So like Mat: root out Twenty girls and then marry one. Right. And it's honestly this is Michelle Harris: Right. And it's honestly this is a lot for me to like be like, okay, this per like, especially 'cause we took a week off, so I'm like, my god, Emma was this person and maybe we saw her again. For me between like having a week off then Right. Mat: Shit. For me, between like taking a week off and then we did a whole Full recap of season three of Secret Lives. Steve was here that weekend, but I mean that was so long ago, it seems like. Summer is tragically ending. I'm not happy about it. Michelle Harris: Steve was here that weekend but I mean that was so long ago. Right. Right. Summer is tragically ending. Yeah. I'm not happy about it. It's not tragically 'cause I love fall. I love fall too, but like I want more days on the boat. I want We got we got six more weeks on the boat. Yeah, we got something of October, but it's just not gonna be as warm. Yeah. You know, like Mat: I love fall too, but like I want more days on the boat. I want more six more of the summer though. Yeah, we got till the end of October, but it's just not gonna be as warm, you know, like and summer is tragically ending. I hate to say it, but like this fucking summer's over. Alright, let's go. Michelle Harris: And summer is tragically to say it, but it's fucking summer's out. Alright, let's g we're forty six minutes in and we still got another episode to go. So let's keep going. So at this point the friends tell Harry that this will be the last elimination where they decide who goes home. so they're sending some some of the girls home then it's up to Mat: So at this point the friends tell Harry that this will be the elimination where they decide who goes home. so they're sending some some of the seven girls home and then it's up to Harry after that. Okay. Alright. Michelle Harris: Harry after. Yep. Okay. Alright. After tonight, Harry will decide who leaves. Okay. We get to the elimination and there's two girls Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: that are going home. Two are out of seven. Yes. Okay. So we're gonna narrow down to five. Mat: Two out of seven. Yes. Okay. Alright. Juliana says that she is nervous, but she's gonna trust her conversation that she had last night because she can fucking tell loves her. Michelle Harris: Juliana says that she is nervous but she's gonna trust her conversation that she had last night because she can fucking tell that Harry loves her. Before Harry even opens the first box, Harry asks Juliana to go have a conversation. They go off to walk with one another and Sonny, his guy friend, says this was not in his bingo card for the day. Mat: His guy friend says this was not in his bingo. Michelle Harris: All the girls are understandably confused about what's going on. And at this point I'm like, they're either thinking she's leaving or he's like, This is it, like I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. Mat: All right. At this point like they're either thinking she's leaving or he's like, This is it, like I'm not being Yeah yeah. Michelle Harris: Harry tells Juliana that he regrets the conversation that they had last night. Harry's explaining about how she didn't deserve it and he's done this in the past where he's given a beautiful girl all this hope and then takes it away from them. At this point, like Juliana just starts trying to talk Harry out of what he's actually trying to say and be like, Well, like, no, like you said it. Like, Mat: what he's actually trying to say. Like, like no Michelle Harris: she's literally like twisting the conversation. It's like you know what he's trying to say to you, and he wants to end this. And she's like, Well, like, but like you said this, and like Harry says he doesn't know if he will ever get to that point with her. Is he the one that it was like loved by? Mat: Is he the one that was like love bombing? Yes. Yeah, yeah. You just gotta move on. Like she's not the one. I am something you want to hear that I don't mean. Michelle Harris: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And so he keeps trying to tell her like I am love bombing you. I am telling you something you wanna hear that I don't mean. I am Mat: I Michelle Harris: I am admitting to you that I should Mat: Admitting to you that I Michelle Harris: have not said that last night. Mat: Right, right. Michelle Harris: But because he goes, I don't know if I'll ever get there with you, Juliana's like, Well then what do you want me to do? Like you're not telling me directly, like it's like, Girl, take the fucking hint. doesn't want you. You're not the you're not the one. He didn't pull you aside to be like I love you. He pulled you it aside Mat: Yeah, you're not the you're not the one for him. Like pulling you aside and be like I love you. He pulled you aside Michelle Harris: from all those girls. He could have opened that box and if he still was confused, he could've like saved you again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fucking leave with Grace. And she did not do that. Mat: And if he still was confused, he could have like saved you again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just fucking leave with Grace. And she did not do that. Okay. So at that point, he's like, It's better if we just end this, and you deserve way better than me. Like, you need to go find someone that's Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she just starts crying. jeez. Alright. So Juliana gives her ring back and saying that she doesn't know Michelle Harris: So at that point he's like, It's better if we just end this and you deserve way better than me. Like you need to go find someone that will treat you better than I will. And she just starts crying. And that's like So Juliana gives her ring back and sobs in her exit interview that she doesn't know why he would let someone go who has such a special connection with him. Mat: Someone go who has such a special connection connection when Michelle Harris: Like is that a special connection when he's like, I don't love you? Mat: he's like, I don't love you? Is it yeah, that doesn't seem very special. So after that Michelle Harris: So after that he goes back, he tells the girls, You probably heard about my conversation with her last night. I said something I really don't mean. I wanna make this right. I shouldn't have done that and I admit to that, and so I sent her home because it wasn't right. So all the girls were kinda relieved. He opens the first box and anyway it was Juliana. So she was going home anyway. Mat: With her last night, I said something I really don't mean. I want to make this right. I shouldn't have done that, and I admit to that, and so I sent her home because it wasn't right. So he opens the first box, and anyway it was Juliana. So she was a gone. But I think Michelle Harris: But I think it was right for him to have that conversation with her privately and like, you know, do that because because of what happened. The second box is opened and it's Maya B. So the friends didn't think that the last couple of days that she has been herself, which has affected her connection with Harry. So there's five women that remain and Harry tells the girls that he will be deciding from here on out who goes home. Mat: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The second box is opened and it's Maya B. Okay. So the friends didn't think that the last couple of days that she has been herself, which has affected her connection with Harry. So there's five women that remain, and Harry tells the girls that he will be deciding from here on out. the friends aren't the friends are done now. All right. Like they're not even like talking to Michelle Harris: The friends are gone. Like they're not even like talking to him or giving him suggestions. Like they're they're like leaving. Yeah. Yeah. It's all on him. I feel like maybe they should have stuck around. Mat: like they're not even in the house? Like they're just yeah. so it's all on him. huh. I feel like maybe they should have stuck around. Michelle Harris: I th I think so. Mat: I mean maybe they should have stuck around and give a little guidance. Just a little bit of guidance. Okay. Michelle Harris: yeah. Mat: All right. Michelle Harris: Back at the house, Amber and Harry are talking about how she appreciated Harry and what he did at the elimination. Harry then like so they're in his bedroom together. Okay. Harry then picks up Amber and carries her into his bathroom and says there's no cameras in here and they turn on the shower. Mat: They're in his bedroom together. Okay. Harry then picks up Amber and carries her into his bathroom and says there's no cameras in here. and they turn on the shower. Okay. They're giggling and laughing, and Amber tells Harry to take off his clothes and says you need to test out the ride before you buy it. Okay. And at this point Sam is walking up the stairs to find Harry to grab him. Michelle Harris: They're giggling and laughing and Amber tells Harry to take off his clothes and says you need to test out the ride before you buy it. Okay. And at this point Sam is walking up the stairs to find Harry to grab him for a conversation. And she can hear the shower going on and Amber giggling and she puts Mat: But he's testing out the ride in the shower. And she can hear the shower going on her giggling. Michelle Harris: two and two together. Sam goes downstairs to get Danelle and Emma and they're all shocked and don't know what to do or say. And that is the end of episode five. Shocked or don't know what to do. I mean, it's a fucking reality TV dating shit. Mat: Shocked or don't know what this I mean, it's a fucking reality TV dating show. Michelle Harris: But like for him to be at the eliminations to be like, I'm taking this seriously and I wanna like find a wife. And then he turns around and like Mat: he's not taking it seriously. Michelle Harris: goes in the shower with the first girl that's in his bedroom with him. I'm like Well he Danelle Mat: Yeah. Well he Danelle, didn't he already fuck Danelle? Yeah, but no one knows that. And she's still like it still looks like she wants to say something, but she hasn't on T V hasn't said something. I mean, Michelle Harris: Yeah, but no one knows that. And she's still like it still looks like she wants to say something but she hasn't on T V hasn't said anything. Mat: come on. Come on. Michelle Harris: So going into episode six, it starts back up with the shower. Okay. Alright. Harry and Amber come out of the shower, but neither of them look like they've been wet. So I'm like, did they get in the shower or they just turn Mat: So going into episode six, it starts back up with the shower. Okay. All right. Harry and Amber come out of the shower, but neither of them look like they've been wet. So I'm like, did they get in the shower? Did they just Michelle Harris: the shower on? Well no, I feel like they probably just turned Mat: Dry off afterwards. It's kinda weird. Michelle Harris: the shower on to like mute any noise. Okay. But Mat: Mute any noise? Michelle Harris: probably did things outside of the shower. Our head then. Harry Mat: Alright then. Harry Harry's asking if she's mad and I'm like, I wonder if they like just turned it on but didn't get in. And I'm like, why would he say are you mad? Michelle Harris: Harry's asking if she's mad and I'm like, I wonder if they like just turned it on but didn't get in and I'm like, Why would he say are you mad? But then like the audio says like get naked and the girls break it to Abby that he was in the shower with Amber and she says that she's a little jealous. Abby Steve's girl. She literally pauses she was Mat: She says that she's a little jealous. She literally pauses she has Michelle Harris: a little jealous. But it doesn't seem like she's one that's like mad about it. She's like, man, like I wish that was me. Mat: But doesn't seem like she's one that's like mad about I wish that was me. Michelle Harris: Amber tells Harry that they need to go down s so they come out of the room and they're like, We need to go downstairs and like pretend nothing happened 'cause they don't know that the girls know that they were in the shower at this point. So Amber goes they might not shower. They might have not well they they don't know that the girls know that they were like in the bat the bathroom doing stuff. So they Mat: 'Cause they don't know that the girls know that they were in the shower. Okay. But they might not have been in the shower. They might not well they they don't know that the girls know that they were like in the bat the bathroom doing things. So they may or may not have been doing things but the shower was on. Yes. Okay. This is a lot. So I think that they actually do have sex whether it was in the shower or not. Michelle Harris: Yes. So Amber tells Harry that they need to go downstairs, and for him not to be avoidant and he goes, Does it look like I just got fucked? So, I think that they actually did have sex, whether it was in the shower or not. Mat: my. Okay. Michelle Harris: The other four girls are in the living room trying to figure out what they do or say when he comes down. Danelle Mat: Down. Michelle Harris: is very like quiet during all this and she kinda seems like she wants to tell him like this isn't the first time he's fucked someone 'cause he's like she's like Ugh Like, you know, kinda with the ring, right? Yes. So yeah, he Yeah. They Yeah. Mat: Seems like she wants to tell him like this the first time he's fucked someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like She's the one with the ring, right? Yes. So yeah, he Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright. Michelle Harris: Harry then joins the other girls and Sam asks him to have a conversation and she pulls him outside. Sam straight up asks Harry if he was in the shower with Amber and he says that they just turned it on so they could have a one on one conversation without the cameras listening. Mat: Sam straight up asked Harry if he was in the shower with Amber and he says that they just turned it on so they could have a one on one conversation without listening. Okay, it seems a little sketchy, but sure. Harry in an interview says that Michelle Harris: Seems a little sketchy, but sure. Harry in an interview says that he will never out another girl and he will lie until the day he dies about this. Okay. Sam says that if she does find out that Harry was lying and they really were fucking, she would go home tomorrow. Okay. Mat: Okay. Sam says that if she does find out that Harry was lying and they really were fucking, she would go home tomorrow. Michelle Harris: Harry says Not telling Sam was a mistake and turning the shower on was a mistake and he should have been more secretive. But like he's not upset he's only upset because he's getting caught. Yeah. So he's like, I shouldn't have turned this shower on and I you know, I should have like Mat: Sam was a mistake and turning the shower on was a mistake and he should have been more secretive. But like he's not upset he's only upset 'cause he's getting caught. Yeah, yeah. I shouldn't have turned this shower on. Right. Michelle Harris: been a little bit more like, like nothing like you know, like whatever like he's only upset because Sam's calling him out. Yeah and it's like, fuck you, dude. Yeah, no, you got Mat: Yeah, okay. He's only upset calling him out. Yeah. And it's like fuck you dude. Yeah, no, you got caught. The next morning the girls are getting ready. They tell Amber that they thought that she was in Michelle Harris: The next morning the girls are getting ready. They tell Amber that they thought that she was in the shower with him. Like all the girls are like like confront Amber about it. Right. Amber continues to lie with the girls and she was like, like no, like we no, we weren't in the shower. Like Mat: Right. And continues a lot with the girls and she's like, like no, like we no, we were in the shower, like Michelle Harris: Amber in an interview says that if Harry did tell the other girls what happened, she would feel some type of way because it should be kept between private between their own relationship. Which I do understand that aspect of it, but like it's also like it should be kept private, but like you're also on a fucking reality TV dating show. And she says No, is not private. And she basically says that the other girls should Mat: Amber in an interview says that the other girls type of way because it should be kept between private between their own relationship. Which I do understand that aspect of it, but like it's also Yeah, I mean it should be kept private, but like you're also on a fucking reality T V dating show. So no, it is not private. And she basically says that the other girl Michelle Harris: just focus on their relationships with Harry. Like everyone should focus on their own relationships with Harry. Which is fair, but also you are on a reality TV dating show. Mm-hmm. So whatever happens, happens. Like that's what's air bad. Right. At this point, Harry then surprises the girls and tells them that they're all going to Vegas together. boy. Mat: Which is fair, but also you are on a reality T V dating show. Mm-hmm. So whatever happens, happens, like that's that's aired out. At this point Harry then surprises the girls and them that they're all going to Vegas together. boy. He says that a good advice he's gotten from someone he knows is that if you're in a relationship with someone Michelle Harris: He says that a good advice he's gotten from someone he knows is that if you're in a relationship with someone to test that relationship, you should go camping together. He goes, But the girls would kill me if we all went camping, so instead I'm gonna take them to a presidential suite to Vegas. Basically he's not the camping type is what I took from Mat: Has that relationship, you should go camping together. He goes, But the girls would kill me if we all went camping, so instead I'm gonna take them to a presidential suite to Vegas. Alright. Basically he's not the camping type is what I Michelle Harris: that. Mat: took from that. Okay, alright. Michelle Harris: They all get to Vegas and they get to like a rooftop dinner with a private chef. Sounds fun. Emma asks Harry at the dinner what his biggest thing that he's learned from himself was through this whole process. Harry says that actions speak louder than words Mat: They all get to vegas and they get to like a rooftop dinner with a private chef. Mm, that sounds fun. Emma asks Harry at the dinner what his biggest thing that he's learned from himself was through this whole process. Harry says that actions speak louder than words Michelle Harris: He says that if he says something he should actually mean it. Mat: He says that if he says something he should actually mean it. Okay. At this point during the dinner, Sam's like interviewed multiple times. He's still hung up about Michelle Harris: At this point during the dinner, Sam's like interviewed multiple times and she's still hung up about I'm trusting this process. I'm trusting Harry was like telling me the truth about h him and Amber and like if they like sh Sam out of the four other girls is so like hung up on this 'cause she like confronted him. Mat: Yeah. About him and Amber and like if she's sh Sam out of the four other girls is so like hung up on this Michelle Harris: And she just wants to know the truth. Like that's all she's like if he told me the truth and he was like, But you know, like all this stuff, I could move on from that. If he's lying to me, I'm gone. Yeah. No, I agree. And we all know that he's lying to her. Mat: and she just wants to know the truth. Yeah. That's all she's like, Yeah. If he told me the truth and he was like FUT, you know, like all this stuff, I can move on from that. Yeah. If he's lying to me, I'm Yeah. Nah, I get that. Yeah. Michelle Harris: The next day Harry says that he has five one on one dates today. So he's going on a date with each of the girls. okay. Shit. The first date is with Emma and they have like Mat: The next day Harry says that he has five one on one dates today. So he's going on a date with each of the girls. okay. Shit. The first date is with Emma and they have like Michelle Harris: a pool side date. Emma brings up her concern that she is more reserved than the other girls and asks Harry if that's something that he would gravitate towards or if he's looking for someone more outgoing. Okay. Mat: Full side date. Emma brings up her concern that she is more reserved than the other girls and asks Harry if that's something that he would gravitate towards or if he's looking for someone more outgoing. Okay. Harry says Michelle Harris: Harry says he's Mat: He is looking for someone who is more fluid that can go into a room and talk to anyone, but also someone who can be a little bit more quiet with him. Okay. Emma asks Harry to be honest about how he's feeling, and Harry says that he's worried that it would just be a friendship between the two of them, but he would be lucky to marry her. Michelle Harris: is looking for someone who's more fluid that can go into a room and talk to anyone, but also someone who can be a little bit more quiet with him. Emma asks Harry to be honest about how he's feeling, and Harry says that he's worried that it would just be a friendship between the two of them, but he would be lucky to marry her. Mat: okay. This really gives her a lot of hope. Like yeah, yeah, like I'm I would shit like I'm the one, yeah. Michelle Harris: This really gives her a lot Like, yeah, yeah, like I Like I would be really lucky to marry him. Mat: Yeah. Yeah. And then they start making them. Of course they do. Harry in an interview says on paper Emma is perfect. Michelle Harris: And then they start making him. Of course they do. Harry in an interview says on paper, Emma is perfect, but the chemistry isn't there yet, maybe that's what he needs is like someone to grow into as like a friend. Like he he's basically saying, like, a lot of my Mat: someone to grow into as like a friend. Like he he's basically saying like a lot of my friends that are in a very serious relationship say that it started out as friends and he's like saying like maybe I need that friendship to grow into a very strong relationship. Yeah I mean that's sure like Michelle Harris: friends that are in a very serious relationship say that it started out as friends and he is like saying like maybe I need that friendship to grow into a very strong relationship Okay then this is not the process Mat: you and I started out as friends. Michelle Harris: Right. We had about a year. Like let's fucking get married like two weeks into being friends. Right. Like this is completely. This is not the process to be like maybe this can grow into something. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Like let's let's tie this down. Let's legally get all this shit involved. Yeah. Maybe on a maybe. On a maybe. Mat: But we weren't like let's fucking get married like two weeks into being friends. Like this is completely like this is not the process to be like maybe this can grow in Maybe, maybe. Like let's let's tie this down, let's legally get all this shit involved. Yeah. Maybe on a maybe. On a maybe. On Michelle Harris: Next up is Sam and they have a spay together. They go into like an Mat: Next up is Sam and they have a spa day together. Ooh, a spay? Michelle Harris: Arctic shower and it's like it looks like suns cold. It looks it is cold. It looks like snow is like falling on them. Okay. And then like they jump into a jacuzzi. So it's like almost like a ice plunge and then jacuzzi. Yeah. Okay. Mat: What is that? That sounds cold. It looks it is cold. It looks like snow is like falling on like they jump into a jacuzzi. So that sounds fun. Ice plunges ice, the warm. Okay. That sounds fun. They at first have very playful energy. Sam thinks that they can talk about anything, and at this point in my head I'm like, Can you? Can you Right, right. I don't know. Okay. Harry was worried at first that Michelle Harris: They at first have very playful energy. Sam thinks that they can talk about anything. And at this point in my head I'm like, Can you? 'Cause I feel like you haven't opened up a lot. Like, I don't know. Harry was worried at first that this relationship was purely sexual. Sam says the only time she's questioned their relationship was the shower situation. Mat: This relationship was purely sexual. Sam says the only time she's questioned their relationship was the shower situation. Sam was worried that Harry is lying and it would be a repeat of her past. Harry says he feels bad that he lied to her, but he had to lie to save Amber, and if he didn't lie to Sam, she would have gone home. Literally that's what Michelle Harris: Sam was worried that Harry is lying and it would be a repeat of her past. Harry says he feels bad that he lied to her, but he had to lie to save Amber, and if he didn't lie to Sam, he she would have gone home. Literally that's what Mat: This is a lot going there's a lot going on here. So basically, I lied Michelle Harris: she if I didn't if I didn't know what going on here. So basically, I lied. Mat: so I didn't out Amber. Okay, okay. That's one stance to be on. But if I told Sam the truth that night, she would have gone up and left and I didn't want that to happen. That is completely different conversation. Yeah. You didn't want her to leave, so you lied to her. Yeah. So what happens when you marry her and then she watches this on T V? Michelle Harris: So I didn't out Amber. Okay, fine. Fine. That's one stance to be on. But if I told Sam the truth that night, she would have gotten up and left and I didn't want that to happen. That is a completely different conversation. You didn't want her to leave, so you lied to her. Yeah. So what happens when you marry her and then she watches this on TV? Mat: Yeah, this whole thing I mean it's reality Michelle Harris: Yeah, this whole thing. What? Mat: TV, it's all fucking racket. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Cameras around. You lied to someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't Michelle Harris: It's coming out regardless. You fucked Amber. Cameras were around. You lied to Sam. Did you think that you were gonna get a say in the edit of this? Sir. Mat: know. I don't know. Maybe he thinks he's that fucking that important. I knew. Next we go Michelle Harris: Anyway. Next we go to Amber. They go to dinner together. Harry is asking Amber a lot of questions about if she sees him as her husband and how their life would fit together. At this point, Amber is basically saying that she doesn't want her life to change too much and they're both independent people and they should keep doing what they're doing individually. Mat: Go to Amber, they go to dinner together. Harry's asking Amber a lot of questions about if she sees him as her husband. Okay. And how their life would fit together. Okay. At this point, Amber is basically saying that she doesn't want her life to change too much, and they're both independent people, and they should keep doing what they're doing individually. This Harry keeps like Harry keeps. Michelle Harris: Harry keeps asking Like Harry keeps asking her if she could see herself walking down the aisle and she cannot answer this question. She ain't the one. Literally all the other girls are asking Harry questions. Yeah. Amber's the only ones like he's begging her to give him the validation that he needs to be like, I want at this point. What you doing there, Amber? Mat: Yeah. She could see herself walking down the aisle and she cannot answer this question. She ain't the one. Literally all the other girls are asking Harry questions. Yeah. Amber's the only ones, like he's begging her to give him the validation that he needs to be like, I want at this point What are you doing there, Amber? Like Michelle Harris: And at this point like Harry, like this girl is basically not telling you what you need. Send her the fuck home. She she needs to go. Mat: Basically, seven weeklooks home. Michelle Harris: Harry says that he really needs a reassurance from Amber. Maybe you shouldn't have fucked a girl that isn't giving you reassurance then. Mat: Maybe you shouldn't have fucked a girl that isn't giving you reassurance then. Nah, she needs to go. Abby is next and they go gambling together. Michelle Harris: Abby is next and they go gambling together. They're playing Black Jack together and she keeps hitting. Okay. abby says, I'm gonna get Black Jack tattooed across my ass tonight. Mat: are playing blackjack together and she keeps hitting. Okay. Amber says, I'm gonna get blackjack tattooed across my ass tonight. Michelle Harris: She's funny. Yeah, like I'm starting the whole spitting in each other's mouth thing was a little bit much for me, but like she's she's a vibe. That's Steve's girl. She's she's a vibe. Mat: Blackjack. Yeah, like I'm starting the whole spitting in each other's mouth thing was a little bit much for me, but like she is that's that that's that's let's go. She's vibe. Alright. Harry wants to see if under all the Michelle Harris: Harry wants to see if under all the fun there is a more mature side to Abby. So she is kind of young. I think she's like twenty four. Okay. And she still lives with her parents. So like there is concerns about that. Mat: Okay. And she still lives with her parents, so like there is concern. Okay, all right. Michelle Harris: Harry says that she is worried since she does still live at home if she's ready to be a wife, be independent, like you know, all that. Abby tells Harry that she feels like she is finally ready for the responsibility of being a wife and mother. and this conversation goes on for a little bit and she's like, Yeah, like I do live with my parents, but like I am ready for that. Mat: says that she is worried since she does still live at home if she's ready to be a wife, be a Abby tells Harry that she feels like she is finally ready for the responsibility of being a wife and mother. and this conversation goes on for a little bit and she's like, yeah, like I do live with my parents, but like I am ready for that Michelle Harris: It seems like Harry accepts it, but like he's still questioning him. Mat: It seems like Harry accepted it, but like he's still questioning it. Okay. Michelle Harris: When Abby gets back to the room with the other girls, she does like a debrief with them and she's like, we went gambling and I apologize for losing our husband's money. So like it was really funny where I'm like like you know, like she's embracing the fact that they're all engaged. She's like, Sorry, I lost her husband's money. Mat: gambling and I apologize for losing our husband's money. Our husband's money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like yeah, we're all together. Yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. And then all of them talk Michelle Harris: And then all of them talk about the pressures of this experiment and Abby explains how she feels a little bit insecure about how the date went because of his questioning and Her being ready for the seriousness of it. And at this point Amber does sympathize with her, saying, like, yeah, we had a similar conversation where like Mat: being ready for the seriousness of it. Yeah. And at this point Amber does sympathize with her saying like, Yeah, we had a similar conversation where like Michelle Harris: I'm not sure if I'm ready to tell him like I'm ready for marriage. Right. So it was really nice to see like the girls kind of talk with one another about all that. Yeah, and be the fuck are we doing? Yeah. Mat: Him like I'm ready for marriage. Right, okay. Yeah, and be like, what the fuck are we doing here? Like, are we really gonna mar is one of us really gonna marry this guy? Right, right. Like, when's Rakaia coming back to marry this guy? We all wanna leave, so what is Rakaia going to do? Yeah, where's Rakaya? Like, come on. this point, Dunn go Michelle Harris: We all wanna leave, so what is Rakuna? Where is she? At this point Danelle goes on her date and they go to a Ferris wheel. Danelle feels comfortable because this is her hometown so she's not distracted by the big lights and the fancy casinos. Dunnelle's the one that has the ring, right? Yes. So Vegas is her hometown, so she's like, I just feel like at home. Yeah. Vegas is her hometown. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's from there, so she's like Mat: her date and they go to a Ferrisville. Because this is her hometown, so she's not distracted by the big lights and the fancy casino. And Dunn's the one that has the ring, right? Okay. Vegas is her hometown. So she's like, I just feel like I'm Vegas is her hometown. Okay. She's from there, so she's like Michelle Harris: I think that's why she wasn't with them. I think she like probably went home and stay with some family. Like and she was like, I just I I'm here. I wanna explore my relationship with Harry. I'm not here for a fancy dinner or night, like I can do this at any point. Mat: I think that's why she wasn't with them. I think she like probably went home to stay with some family, like and she was like, I just I I'm here, I wanna explore my relationship with Yeah yeah. I'm not here for a currency dinner. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: Harry basically tells Danelle that there's nothing wrong with her and that he's been smitten with her since the beginning. Like she was like Mat: basically tells Danelle that there is nothing wrong with her and that he's been smitten with her since the beginning wrong with you. Like she's like So they get into the Ferris real and she does tell Harry like I don't like I heard about like what you said to Juliana I don't want Michelle Harris: So they get into the Ferris wheel and she does tell Harry, like, I don't like I heard about like what you said to Juliana. I don't want you to make that same mistake with me, but like I am feeling very strongly with you and I'm falling in love with you. You don't have to reciprocate that emotion and Harry tells her that he's already there with her and he's not scared. So in essence, he basically they both say, I'm falling in love with you. Right. Mat: same mistake with me. Okay. I am feeling very strongly with you and I'm falling in love with you. You don't have to reciprocate that emotion. And Harry tells her that he's already there with her and he's not scared. So in essence he basically they both say, I'm falling in love with you. Right, right. Okay. Harry says that every time he looks at Danelle, like it's her. Like that Michelle Harris: Okay. Harry says that every time he looks at Danelle, like it's her. Like that like she is the perfect wife. Yeah. Why are we even still doing Yeah. I think everyone's asking that question. Like the two of them seem how the fuck are we doing it? The two of them seem most Mat: He gave her the ring. He gave her the ring. Why are we even still doing this? I think everyone's asking that question. Like the two of them Why the fuck are we doing this? Michelle Harris: on the same page. To me. Yeah. To me. And I'm like, this is episode six? Seven. six. Six. Why the fuck are we doing this? Yeah. Marry right now. Mat: Yeah. This is episode six? six. Why the fuck are we doing this? Marry him right now. Let's go. Come on. The next day two people are going home. Okay. The girls come to him one on one. Michelle Harris: The next day two people are going home. Okay. The girls come to meet him one on one and he lets them know his decision 'cause it's his decision. Mat: He lets them know like before we know, like he's what's he s like No, so they walk so like he's sitting I'm like very curious about how this whole thing is happening. Okay. He's at like a rooftop. Michelle Harris: Let's them know like before we know, like he's what's he s no, so they walk so like he's sitting there curious. So they're in they're still in Vegas. Okay. He's at like a rooftop bar area or like a lounge area. Yeah. And he has th their box Mat: Yeah yeah. Michelle Harris: the five like the one box open. And the it's open on the shelf and they walk down one on one. Okay. Mat: The ring boxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's open on the shelf and locked down one on one. Okay. And then he like with the open box has a conversation and says, Would you like to stay? Or I don't think this is working out and I like Okay. Alright. So the first girl's Danelle and she is safe. Michelle Harris: And then he like with the open box has a conversation and says, Would you like to stay? Or I don't think this is working out and I like I I we need out of this. So the first girl is Danelle and she is safe. He tells her that when they get back to LA that they're gonna be spending time with her mom. So they're gonna be parents soon. Mat: He tells her that when they get back to LA that they're gonna be spending time with her mom. Okay. So they're gonna be parents soon. Emma comes down next. He tells her that he doesn't feel like the c the connection is where that it needs to be at the time and sh she is gonna go home. Harry tells her that his relationship with the other girls are just a little bit further along and he feels like their relationship is more on the friend side. Michelle Harris: Emma comes down next. He tells her that he doesn't feel like the c the connection is where that it needs to be at the time and she is gonna go home. Harry tells her that his relationship with the other girls are just a little bit further along and he feels like their relationship is more on the friend side. Emma, I will say at this point, this is when I'm like, I wish we saw more of her and I love the fuck out of her. Mat: Emma, I will say at this point, this is when I'm like, I wish we saw more of her and I love the fuck out of her. She doesn't shed a tear in front of Harry. She's like in a personal interview. stays very classy. Michelle Harris: She doesn't shed a tear in front of Harry. She does, like in a personal interview, very classy, is very understanding. Thanks him for his time. Says he she really enjoyed this experience. In the interview, that's when she was like, you know, maybe I took the comment of him being like lucky to marry me as hope. She goes, but I am never gonna settle and I'm worthy. And like I will meet someone and you know, s maybe people take me for advantage 'cause I can handle rejection so well, but like I will figure it out. And I'm like, Good for you, girl. I'm like, holy shit for her. I know. But also like Mat: I will meet someone and you know, maybe people take me for advantage I can handle rejection so well but like Yeah, good for her. Yeah. Good for you, girl. I'm like good for her, but but also like I'm very curious, like so this is like this is happening in the episode, like Michelle Harris: This is like this is happening in the episode like girl after girl. So it's not just like a like a ceremony with like No, no, they don't they don't know who's been picked or who hasn't. Yeah. So this is like girl by girl. Yeah. You're safe. Which is weird 'cause like up until now It's been a ceremony. Yeah. Ceremony. Their ring boxes are Mat: Girl after girl. Well, so it's not just like a like a ceremony with like the ring boxes. This is like they don't know who's been picked or who hasn't. Yeah. So this is like girl by girl, like you're safe, I'm letting you go. Which is weird 'cause like up until now it's been like a ceremony. Their ring boxes are there, they gotta put their ring back. So okay. All right, all right. Michelle Harris: Yeah. They gotta put their ring back. So Okay. Alright. Alright. Yeah. So the next the next girl's Amber. She is safe. Okay. he lets her know that they're gonna be seeing her mom and brother when they get back to LA. Okay. And and then with the last three girls. So we know Emma's gone, there's one more Mat: This is a little different for me. All right. Let's let's move on. All right. So who do we got next? The next girl's Amber. She is safe. Okay. he lets her know that they're gonna be seeing her mom and brother when they go back to LA. Okay. LA And then with the last three girls. So we know Emma's gone. There's one more Michelle Harris: girl leaving. They do like kind of a back and forth between Sam and Abby. So like Abby walks down, Sam walks down, they do the conversation between the two, and then we find out that Abby is going home. No. He says that she is I know. I know. I was really upset. My prediction to Steve in a text before I watched this episode was that Emma and Sam were gonna go home. I thought Abby was gonna stay for a little bit longer, Mat: They do like kind of a back and forth between Sam and Abby. So like Abby walks down, Sam walks down, they do the conversation between the two, and then we find out that Abby is going home. No. He says that Sorry, Steve. I know. I know. I was really upset. My prediction to Steve in the text before I watched this episode was that Emma and Sam were go home. my goodness. Michelle Harris: but sorry, Steve. Mat: Sorry, Steve, your girl's gone home. Harry says that Abby is perfect, but he's not sure if Abby Abby is perfect. It that he is perfect for her. Okay. Abby was caught off guard. Harry didn't think that she was ready for marriage yet. Michelle Harris: Harry says that Abby is perfect, but he's not sure that if Abby is perfect. If that he is perfect for her. Okay. Abby was caught off guard. Harry didn't think that she was ready for marriage yet. Sam is safe and Mat: Is is Is Harry ready for marriage? I mean I'm just gonna ask the question. I don't think Michelle Harris: I think we'll get to that. Mat: so. But alright. In my opinion Michelle Harris: Harry brings it to Sam that they're gonna spend a couple days with her mom. okay. so they all leave Vegas and go back Mat: okay. so they all leave Vegas and go back Michelle Harris: to LA and then they start like the family meetup. So we're almost to the end, but like we do see all the family meetups at the end of the seven seven. I mean, we're like we saw we're seeing the family meetups now. Okay. But they're not long. Yeah, but they're not long. Okay. So Danelle meets up with her mom. Mat: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so it's like episode seven is gonna be like family meetups and then I mean we're like we saw we're seeing the family meetups now. Okay. But in episode six. Okay. But they're not long. Okay. So Danelle meets up with her mom. This one was interesting because Danelle and Sam Michelle Harris: This one was interesting because Danelle and Sam are the only ones to meet up with their family and they show like the first interaction with them before Harry joins. Mat: meet up with their family and they show like the first interaction with them before Harry joins. Okay. But Amber meets up with Harry first and then they join her family. And then you never see alone time with Amber and her family. So I'm like That's weird. Yeah, it might have just been the edit. Yeah, who knows. So Danelle meets up with her mom. Danelle catches her mom up that she's engaged. But doesn't mention that any of the other girls are engaged. Michelle Harris: But Amber meets up with Harry first and then they join her family. And then you never see alone time with Amber and her family. So I'm like, that was like a weird edit to that. Yeah. So Danelle meets up with her mom. Danelle catches her mom up that she's engaged. But doesn't mention that any of the other girls are engaged to him. So I'm like rings. Right. But she's like, my god, I'm engaged and like her mom's like, Wait, what? Yeah, this through Mat: Well I mean they all have rings so they are engaged. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got this ring here. However for Michelle Harris: However, her mom does ask how many girls were there to start with and how many are there now. I mean, they all know she's on a dating show. So she does engage. Right. So her mom, I'm Mat: wait, so she knows? I mean they all know. Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you're not you're not engaged, but yeah. So her mom on Michelle Harris: like, okay, there's a little bit more of like a reality sense to this where it's like, okay, like, well, like how many were there to start with? How many are there now? All this stuff. Mat: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: Overall her mom seems very realistic and very down to earth. Mat: Seems very realistic and very down to earth. Okay. Michelle Harris: Harry then joins them Mat: Harry then joins some Michelle Harris: and her mom admits that she is just realizing that this does end in marriage. She's like, I I think all these families didn't realize that this ends in a marriage. I think it just like ended in an engagement much like the Bachelor or Bachelorette. Like No, this is like let's get married. Her mom says that she can tell Danelle's happy and asks to speak to Harry alone. Mat: She is just realizing that this does end in marriage. She's like, I I think all these families didn't realize that this ends in a marriage. I mean it's right ended in an engagement, much like the Bachelor, Bachelorette. This is let's marry Harry. Like you're already engaged. Like we're marrying Harry. Like we're gonna marry Harry. Her mom says that she can tell Danelle's happy and asks to speak to Harry when okay. She asks Harry one on one if he loves Danelle and he kind of like dodged. Michelle Harris: She asks Harry one on one if he loves Danelle, and he kinda like dodges around that question a little bit. She asks where he plans on living. He answers that he does want a home in Australia, but he wants to live here, so he's not taking her away. They're just gonna have like travel time. Mat: Okay. He asks where he plans on living, he answers that he does want a home in Australia but he wants to live here, so he's not taking her away, they're just gonna have like travel time. Michelle Harris: She likes that. She asks if they're gonna have children, because she wants grandkids. He says yes. And overall she says she's not worried about Harry and really likes him. Mat: Okay. She asks if they're gonna have children 'cause she wants grandkids. He says yes. And overall she says she's not worried about Harry and really likes him. Okay. Alright. And her mom plays along and goes, I don't think he's for you. And then Danelle's like face was like, What do I say? Like shit. What should I say? Like, I don't Michelle Harris: Harry then asks her if they should prank Danelle when she comes back and say that everything went terribly and then Danelle comes back and her mom plays along and goes, I don't think he's for you. And then Danelle's like face was like, What do I say? Like, how do I handle that? Should I say like I don't care? Like and then her mom like starts laughing. She's like, Wait, is this a prank? So it does seem like there's this playful like energy. Okay. Mat: care like and then her mom like starts laughing and she's like, is this a thing? So it does seem like there's this play. Okay. That's it's fun. Okay. Alright. Later Harry and Danelle get alone time Michelle Harris: Later Harry and Danelle get alone time in a r hotel room together and they spend the whole night together. So we find out that the girls have an option after he meets the family to spend the night with Harry. Like they can tell him yes or no and then he can spend the night. It much like the Bachelorette and the Bachelor Yeah. So the Bachelor and the Bachelorette they have like overnight stays towards the end and everyone knows that there's overnight stays and like the Mat: spend whole night together. So we find out that the girls have an option after he needs the family to spend the night with Harry. Like they can tell him yes or no. okay. And then he can spend the night. It much like the Bachelorette and the Bachelorette I don't know what how that goes. So the Bachelor and the Bachelorette they have like overnight stays towards them. Yeah. And everyone knows that there's overnight stays and like the Michelle Harris: person Mat: person Michelle Harris: like that person dating the lead can decide like yes I want to spend the night with them or no and like it's kind of a mutual thing but like you get alone Mat: like that person dating the lead can decide like yes I want to spend the night with them or no and like it's kinda mutual like you get alone time Michelle Harris: time overnight together to like really figure out if this is like it so Danelle and Harry spend the night together and Harry says that he forgot that they aren't already married. Mat: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So Danelle and Harry spend the night together, and Harry says that he forgot that they aren't already married. And he says, Now I have to snap back into reality that there's two other girls. shit. Okay. Alright. Michelle Harris: And he says, Now I have to snap back into reality to remember that there's two other girls. Shit, okay. Mat: Well he already gave her the ring, so it's like already fucking done. So the next day he like that morning, then he goes to meet Amber. Michelle Harris: Yeah. So the next day he like that morning, then he goes to meet Amber. he meets he meets Amber at a bar and and Amber's mom and brother show up. Okay. So she didn't have one on one Mat: he meets he meets Amber at a bar and at a bar nice. Amber's mom and brother show up. Okay. So she didn't have one on one Michelle Harris: time with h her family. Like he they just showed up. Yeah. Mat: Like he they just showed up. Yeah. They find out that they're engaged her brother is like through the moon about like he is so excited about this. I'm like, when are you gonna say that there's other girls? Yeah, there's multiple women. Yeah. You're not engaged to him. Michelle Harris: They find out that they're engaged her brother is like through the moon about like he is so excited about this. I'm like, when are you gonna say that there's other girls? I'm like, this is fucking weird. I mean, this is weird. This is weird you're not engaged to him. Two other women are also engaged to him. And tells them that in a few days there will be a wedding. Mat: Yeah, and you kind of are, but you're not really and tells them that in a few days there will be a wedding. my goodness. In a few days. Her mom wants to know what Harry's intentions are and then she brings up like in a roundabout way religion, saying like, I know my children Michelle Harris: Her mom wants to know what Harry's intentions are, and then she brings up like in a roundabout way religion, saying, like, I know my children don't believe it, but we brought them up in religion and he she goes, Where do you think your dad is now? That's how she wants to approach Mat: don't believe it but we brought them up in religion and he she goes, Where do you think your dad is now? That's how she wants to approach religious topic. With to Harry? Yeah. Where do you think your dad is now now that he's passed Michelle Harris: religious topic. Where do you think Yeah, where do you think your dad is now now that he's passed away? Mat: and he's passed away. Harry politely says that he never grew up religious and he tells this story about how Michelle Harris: Harry politely says that he never grew up religious and he tells this story about how him and his dad used to like be beekeepers. Yeah. And he told his dad before he passed away, like, if you ever like want to send me a sign, like send a bee my way Mat: Him and his dad used to like be beekeepers. Yeah. And he told his dad before he passed away, like, if you ever like want to send me a sign, like send a bee my Michelle Harris: And he says he takes that as like a sign that his dad is around whenever he sees a bee. Yeah, yeah. he goes, I don't know if like that's what you wanted to hear, but like in a roundabout way, like Mat: way and he says he takes that as like a sign that his dad is around whenever he sees a bee. Yeah, yeah. Okay. he goes, I don't know if like that's what you wanted to hear, but like in a roundabout way like Michelle Harris: I'm not like spiritual, but like that's my sign. Her mom like was like, There's no right or wrong answer, like that's your truth and like so I'm like, Okay, like I'm like I thought like she was gonna go into like a a rant or whatever, but like, you know Mat: Spiritual but like that's right, right. Her mom like was like there's no right or wrong answer, like that's your truth and like so I'm like, okay, like I'm like I thought like she was gonna go into like a a Yeah some crazy shit, yeah. And she says that she just wants a partner to take care of her daughter. Okay, that's fair. And he was like, Yeah. Michelle Harris: And she says that she just wants a partner to take care of her daughter. and he was like, Yeah. Then Amber's mom asks Amber, Are you ready for marriage? So keep in mind Amber's already been married once. She's been divorced. Mat: Then Amber's mom asks Amber, Are you ready for marriage? So keep in mind Amber's already been married once. She's been divorced. How old is Amber? Michelle Harris: I think like I don't know how I th I think like late twenties, maybe early thirties. Mat: I think like late. Michelle Harris: So Amber's mom asks if she's ready for marriage, and Amber responds, I think I'm ready for love. Okay. Mat: So Amber's mom asks if ready for marriage and Amber responds, I think I'm ready for love. Okay. Harry looks very disappointed and says This is the most alarm bells he's ever heard. Okay. He says that the show is called Let's Marry Harry. Yeah. Michelle Harris: Harry looks very disappointed and says, This is the most alarm bells he's ever heard. Okay. He says that the show is called Let's Marry Harry. Yeah. Mat: He's like, so at the end of this, like, it's not like let's fall in love. Like it's let's No, no, no. We gotta get married, Harry. Harry literally gets up after she says this and says, I'll let you guys finish and like I'll see you later. Michelle Harris: He's like, so at the end of this, like, it's not like let's fall in love. Like it's let's marry. Harry literally gets up after she says this and says, I'll let you guys finish and like I'll see you later. Mat: sh Michelle Harris: sure. Harry later that night goes to Amber's room and she answers the door and just like immediately like makes out with him instead of saying hi. Mat: Harry later that night goes to Amber's room and she answers the door and just like immediately like makes out with him instead of saying hi. Amber then again skirts around the question of Harry's concerns that she's ready for marriage. my she tells him that she's open to him since he picked her the other day at the last elimination instead of his friends. Yeah. And she says, I'm gonna let you in more than I ever have. Michelle Harris: Amber then again skirts around the question of Harry's concerns that she's ready for marriage and she tells him that she's open to him since he picked her the other day at the last elimination instead of his friends. Yeah yeah. And she says, I'm gonna let you in more than I ever have. And Harry just like seems lost. Okay. But accepts that and says, like, do you wanna spend the night with me? And she says yes. Okay. Mat: And Harry just like seems lost. Okay. But accepts Jack and says, like, do you want to spend the night with me? And Michelle Harris: So Harry spends the night with Amber and Mat: so Harry spends the night with Amber and Michelle Harris: Amber in the morning feels like there has been a very big shift and it feels good and exciting and Harry like just feels the same way. They have breakfast on the balcony on this penthouse floor. Okay. And all of a sudden a bee shows up and he was like, The only person I've ever seen a bee with is you and this is reaffirming this is my dad saying that you're the person. Mat: feels like there has been a very big shift and it feels good and exciting and Harry like just feels the same way. They have breakfast on the balcony on this penthouse floor. Okay. And all of a sudden a bee shows up and he was like, The only person I've ever seen a bee with is you and this is reaffirming this is my dad saying that you're the person. Right, I mean there's a lot on the twenty first floor of this building and a bee came like there's no reason a bee should be up here. Michelle Harris: He was like, We're we're on the twenty first floor of this building and a bee came like there's no reason a bee should be up here and I'm like, Production probably found a bee and put it up there. Mat: I mean there's a lot of bees out there but I mean yeah, I mean if you think it's your father, that's great. I mean I'm I get it. It happens. Michelle Harris: Yeah. Mat: Sam then meets up her mom, and Sam is the first girl to show her mom the ring, but then says, Don't be excited yet, everyone has one. But like pump the brakes, like I'm like, holy shit, is this like twenty other girls had one, yeah. Sam asked her mom to be Michelle Harris: Sam then meets up with her mom and Sam is the first girl to show her mom the ring but then says, Don't be excited yet, everyone has one. So she literally goes, I'm engaged, but like everyone has one. I'm like, holy shit is this like refreshing. Sam asks her mom to be brutally honest when when she meets Harry because she still is unsure about the misunderstanding that they had. Mat: when she meets Harry because she still is unsure about the misunderstanding that they had. Her mom asked about the misunderstanding that they had and she tells her mom Michelle Harris: Her mom asks about the misunderstanding that they had and she tells her mom everything that happened. Sam is like clocking the fact that Harry's lying at this point. Like she is like, We've had this conversation multiple times. I don't know what to do about it. We've had this misunderstanding. I know you have a good sense of like reality. I need you to tell me if I'm like crazy or not. And she is like clocking this shit. All right. Mat: Sam is like clocking the fact that Harry is lying at this point. Like, she is like, We've had this conversation multiple times. I don't know what to do about it. We've had this mess of understanding. I know you have a good sense of like reality. I need you to tell me if I'm like crazy or not. Yeah, okay. Okay. Alright. Harry shows up and her mom gets straight to the point and says, I don't like, can I trust you with my daughter? Her mom. Michelle Harris: Harry shows up and her mom gets straight to the point and says, I don't like, can I trust you with my daughter? Her mom does not like does not want anything to do with Harry, does not give into his charm, shakes his hand at the end of their meeting, where the other moms and parents like hugged him and like thought he was the greatest. Literally goes, Thank you, like I'll like you know. Mat: Does not like does not want anything to do with Harry, does not give into his charm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, I'm outta here. Thank you. Like I'll like by And her mom is just like not feeling this. Okay, alright. Her mom in an interview, and this is the only familial interview that happens. okay. Michelle Harris: And her mom is just like not feeling this. So her mom in an interview and this is the only familial interview that happens because they're probably like, What the hell is going through your mind during this? Her mom in an interview says she doesn't Mat: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: think that Harry is ready for marriage and he is still playing around. And she gives Harry a handshake at the end of it and then he leaves and Sam tells her mom, I have the option to spend the night with him tonight and her mom goes, I wouldn't do that. Just go see him and talk to him, but I would not spend the night with this man. Mat: And she gives Harry a handshake at the end of it, and then he leaves, and Sam tells her mom, I have the option to spend the night with him tonight, and her mom does I wouldn't do that. Just go see him and talk to him, but I would not spend the night with this. Okay, yeah. And it ends Michelle Harris: And it ends on Sam showing up at the bar to see Harry to have a conversation. But it is not in a hotel room like the other two girls 'cause he showed up the hotel room for the other two and she goes to a bar to like have a conversation with him and I we'll see if she's That's the episode. She might be Mat: Sam's showing up at the bar to see Harry to have a conversation. But it is not in a hotel room with the other two girls 'cause he showed up in the hotel room with the other two. And she goes to a bar to like have the conversation with him. And we'll see if she's That's the end of the episode. Michelle Harris: And I Care, like good for you, girl. Like you're you're clocking it, your mom's clocking it. And and then she's like, Well, like the other two girl like she literally tells her mom, like, the other two girls are sp probably spending the night, so like, what if I don't and she goes, You know what? Mat: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're you were clocking it, your mom's clocking it. Yeah. And then she's like, Well, like the other two girl like she literally tells her mom, like, the other two girls are s probably spending the night, so like, what if I don't and she goes, You know what? If I don't spend the night with him and that's like the deciding factor that you're Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. And then she immediately had the last three became my favorite. In that moment of like Michelle Harris: If I don't spend the night with him and that's like the deciding factor that he doesn't want to marry me because I didn't do that, like she was maybe that isn't my person. Like, you know? And I'm like, good for you, girl. And then she immediately in the last three became my favorite. In that moment of like her, like her standing up for w herself and like him actually being a douchebag and like lying to her face. I'm like Mat: standing up for w herself and like him actually being a douchebag and like lying to her face. I'm like Michelle Harris: I really hope that she does not give in to this man next episode. I really hope that for her. If not, I don't I don't judge her or blame her, but I'm like, good for her and her mom for being like, Nah. Yeah, no, good for them. Yeah. Mat: I really hope that she does not give in to this man next episode. I really hope that for her. If not, I don't I don't judge her or blame her, but like, good for her and her mom for being like no. Yeah, no. Good for them. So Yeah, I guess we'll figure it out. in another week or two. I don't know, we'll figure this out. Another week. I don't know. We're trying to figure this shit out. We're trying to finish us. Michelle Harris: Another week. We're gonna finish this next week. No. Mat: But yeah, we'll we'll finish this next week on Tuesday. Michelle Harris: We appreciate everybody listening, following along. 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